game-discussion

[chilly crane]

fall damage would make dark so clunky

[scenic hazel]

congrats took you how long 😭

[edgy sable]

i love it!!!!!

why no fall damage indeed!

too difficult?!

[pallid hemlock]

only in context of this game speficifally, the tragic design

[edgy sable]

when i swing my sword my character slows down but i can fall 400 feet to the ground and im fine. nice realism blindspot

[chilly crane]

why do you speak in haiku what do you mean

[pallid hemlock]

buddy i was able to play HR the second season 9 released.. what sort of yip are you on about 💀 ✌️ 🤣

[finite yoke]

Well, it was fun guys. 7k hours for NOTHING. $30 for NOTHING. My PC is BRICKED. Black screen, no boot. All because IronFUCK requires me to be a NASA engineer just to play high roller. TPM 2.0, HVCI, whatever the FUCK alphabet soup BIOS ritual they’re forcing me through, and now my PC is just DEAD. All I ever wanted from this game was morbidly pregnant goblin men with big fat cheeks that made plopping noises as the ran bare-cheeked down the wet-walled stony goblin caves. Instead, I have to spend another $3,000 on a new PC. This is the 3RD time this year. Screw you ironmace, you've just lost another customer.

[ebon cosmos]

bruh I just got ass-punked by a squad of 3 dwarf rogues...

[edgy sable]

lol is that a copy pasta you grabbed from someone else postin it

[rugged prawn]

So I head that the demon overseer artifact drop rate increased to 9%, but what about other bosses like wyvern?

[ebon cosmos]

Tbf it's your fault for trying to do mobo stuff without knowing how to do it first

[sonic maple]

All hail bios

[edgy sable]

u think ur gonna get me to touch my bios so i can get a red named item in the video game? nice try

[sonic maple]

It's his thing

[pallid hemlock]

that was some funny shit on wipe day tho
"hey guys why cant i play HR?"
"cheater!!1!!11!"
"cuz of your rust hacks"
"uninstall your cheats"
fucking goober show

[lavish mirage]

hey guys based on past wipes what hassa the honeybliss pear been worth?

[finite yoke]

That doesn't stop me from playing 6 runs of 4k per hour, getting tons of artifacts, defeating all the bosses solo, obtaining multiple chests, and having a full inventory for all my characters. Am I an addict with over 7000 k hrs? Yes, but cheaters never affected my progress, and not being able to play because of that is ridiculous.

[queen pendant]

Anyone know if Explo shot is working with add magic yet? I know it wasn't on drop just wanna know if they fixed it yet.

[pallid hemlock]

love the ~1000 or so people who have this game as a special interest and will never complain about any content decisions they make no matter how tragic, with the one thing they complain about being cheaters (theyre not cheating, just got diffed) so IM decided to cater to them
they are, of course, also the people willing to buy all the cosmetics even though they look like boof and have a labor cost to sell price ratio somewhere around 1:1,000,000

guys if your not here to lick SDF toes and ignore tragic design, JUST LEAVE AND UNINSTALL THE GAME

[grim mason]

why is the zweihander so absolutely ASS

[scenic hazel]

lmao

my mental capacity cannot handle that

[devout bolt]

where do i find frost hounds

[vague quest]

ice abyss

[devout bolt]

where doe i cannot locate them for the life of em

me

[vague quest]

https://darkanddarkertracker.com/maps use this

[devout bolt]

ty

[random echo]

wait thats true. if you get hit by the first hit you are pretty much always gonna get hit by the second attack.

[edgy sable]

you know how easy it would be to add fishing buddy?

[grim mason]

about as easy as adding fishing

[rotund karma]

do races matter? if so, best race(s)for bard?

[lavish mirage]

does anyone know honeybliss pear what is has gone for in the past?

[lavish mirage]

yes normally. feline would be best for bard

[vague quest]

nightmare mummy

they rarely make a difference though

[ebon cosmos]

anyone else get stuck in the red portals and just never get migrated to the next floor?

[vague quest]

feledian is also good

[rotund karma]

So if I play skelly bard I'm not throwing? Also ty for answering yall

[ebon cosmos]

the stats are important if you're min-maxing. If you wanna have fun do whatever. Bard has so many damn buffs I don't think it really matters

[feral karma]

What about Dwarf fran.

🥹

[ebon cosmos]

dwarf is lowkey legit against bardiche and other weapons that like to sweep horizontally. All you gotta do is crouch to not get hit. Don't even need to look down and crouch.

[vague quest]

[feral karma]

I run dwarf on a few things, it's cracked.

[rotund karma]

What class goes best with the new demon race? I imagine like fighter and barb

[ebon cosmos]

warlock/barb is what I see a lot of

warlock/barb/cleric

My fighter has the only skin it'll ever need though. The brown and white cat skin. Perfect for MisterMeowmers

[obtuse pumice]

did the devs just give up? every single person is abusing halbed warlock wtf are they doing? how can they keep stalling the nerfs when game is completely screwed

how hard is it to just nerf halberd dmg by 5, bring back sourspot to 60% and reduce demon dmg perk to 20%

[feral karma]

Why in the world would you reduce it by 5. XD

[obtuse pumice]

your right, 10 just to make sure

[edgy sable]

as cutting trees*

[ebon cosmos]

what I want is an fov slider so I can accurately judge where my fuckin' swings are going

[mental garden]

all i see now is people never being able to die like cleric fighter lock yes, hitting entire health bars in similar while being unkillable, being at almost 100% hp after taking like 1200 dmg without actually using heals etc

[feral karma]

Shields are good against halberd, and the closer you get to one the easier it is to prevent a swing.

[obtuse pumice]

you have to be a troll

[mental garden]

also does shield just guard a person's entire body now or what

[keen mauve]

Last time I used a heater against a halberd, the 2nd poke attack went through my shield and headshot me for 80% of my HP

[fleet aspen]

does anyone know which module the dreadspine can spawn in on the 2nd floor of the forgotten castle ?

[mental garden]

2h are just broken and need a major nerf

[feral karma]

Don't play space, push into them the closer you are the easier it is to block. The goal is to prevent the second attack. Think of it like pushing your shield into a wizards wrist to prevent the MMs.

[keen mauve]

Sanctum spawns one

[feral karma]

Crypts floor. Mini wheel, Sanctum, and Death Hall modules.

[keen mauve]

Yeah I know but still not gonna stop it from completely neglecting my shield

[fleet aspen]

thank you 🙌

[feral karma]

[mental garden]

i feel like we keep justifying poor design

[warped wraith]

Does impact do anything? If I hit a fighter who is parrying with a long sword with high impact, I should get through right? Is it broken?

[feral karma]

I don't see how using a shield is justifying poor design. Blocking, Parrying, spacing, dodging, etc exist and can be used to deal with things.

[terse marsh]

Hey team my computer stuck in legacy not uefi and struggling to change it did anyone occur the same issues as I’m trying to play high roller but I need to enable all the setting to do so

[ebon cosmos]

God I hate playing with randoms they're all such toxic pieces of shit

Also

Someone care to explain to me how THE FUCK I with no weapon out constantly closing doors behind me can still get chased down so bad by other teams that I can't even drink a potion without getting clipped by something

[vestal needle]

They have better gaming chairs

[ebon cosmos]

I think the new demon skin gives hidden bonus move speed

I have NEVER been able to outrun someone in it

[vestal needle]

maybe it's a height thing? it's a tall skin

[livid pollen]

anyone know if quest unlocks are broken right now? my friend has a ton more quests available in their list for armorer, collector, and goblin and I do not have any.

[sour briar]

ikr love how sometimes even when i have distance against a fullplate guy with his weapon out he still manages to hit me from 5 miles away

[silent crater]

You need to complete quest "misplaced muffin" to unlock for example goblin merchant quests

[livid pollen]

I have every quest complete I have except dailies currently

[silent crater]

every quest from tavern master?

[livid pollen]

my other buddy also does not see any collector or goblin merchant quests

every quest other than dailies I have

[silent crater]

youd have to share a screen and show me that way for me to try and help you

would be much easier

and quests are not bugged i was doing them like 2 hours ago

[livid pollen]

Ill shoot you a screenshot of my current screens for both. my other buddy shows the same thing. not possible quests to unlock. shows literally no quests for both of them. definitely some bug going on for me and him at least.

[silent crater]

Okay i will have a look

[tiny tartan]

watch them nerf halberd and people still frustrated cuz they're not fixing the real problem 😂

[ebon cosmos]

Sorc damage scales off of will right?

[silent crater]

what is the real problem?

[fringe mason]

magic power/damage bonus in general, will provides a certain amount of magic power bonus and magic resist, and all off sorcs spells scale of magical power bonus

[ebon cosmos]

That SDF should of never of been in charge of a companies design decisions?

[silent crater]

[ebon cosmos]

Time to play my just for fun gimmick build

Sorc with the charred lizard skin named Quemandra(char salamander) and just flame breath on people until they kill me

[civic iris]

does anyone know a fix to the can't connect to server issue?

I just started playing again after quitting a bit after launch and it's still a huge issue

I've been trying to get in for an hour now and it just doesn't work

[raw basin]

Use a vpn

[ebon cosmos]

SDF a while pack forced people to choose between launcher and Steam if you haven't bound your account to one of those then you can't play

[autumn geyser]

If you are soloing lich will it still give you the curse of gathering and just make you 1 ho

Hp

[civic iris]

I'm not downloading a vpn.

[ebon cosmos]

You connecting from brazil or SEA?

this game is a huge piece of shit

[wraith robin]

I wish someone with high IQ could nerf halberg and 2 hand so we can hjave more than 1 way to play

Sick and tire dof this 2 hand game play with ripost

[lime verge]

Skill issue

[pliant valley]

why r there gaes on here coming up to me and kneeling down using emotes to look like they r fist pounding my bone?

[edgy sable]

p2w emote ig

[pliant valley]

LUL

u can't say jur king off in here

[edgy sable]

what if im lookin for a leather j

[opaque trail]

anyone else not got the new quests yet for some reason

[pliant valley]

restart ur game

[opaque trail]

I've restarted my game twice

still nothin

[pliant valley]

idk what to tell u then

they should be there, i got mine 3 and half hours ago

[boreal vigil]

is the four route room on frost mountain bugged I cant seem to find it

[pliant valley]

aw shit, my quests r gone now too

[eternal violet]

why is my game crashing right as i queue a match 😭

[pliant valley]

this game is a pos. i'm go play some rigged ass MTGA

[pallid hemlock]

"then why are you here" - top tier conditioned shmuck

[opaque trail]

I'm in the same boat

[vestal needle]

don't you just love spawning into a match that has already been in progress for several minutes

like what am I even here for? everything is already looted

[dusky crown]

Can you get artifacts from any treasure hoard or is it just the one from the boss?

[manic swift]

anyone know where the "altar' location is on frost mountain? checked map but cant find it

[opaque trail]

any hoard that you have a rare drop key to reach

[dusky crown]

ty

[low tendon]

solos rn is just duos every fight is just teamers

[still cloud]

if you mean the purple hit yes it will make you 1 hp

the one you are supposed to share

[autumn geyser]

So does cave troll have a chance to drop any legendary or lower in the game

Cuz I can’t find a set answer or anyone farming him in videos that at less than a year ago

[silent crater]

he drops legendaries on normals on HR he drops legendaries + uniques

[autumn geyser]

So there’s not set kinds just any legenderies in the game

[silent crater]

Yes pretty much

he drops alot of legendary armor pieces

[autumn geyser]

Is there like a set person that drops more weapons or ring and stuff

[silent crater]

no enemy can drop rings anymore

[autumn geyser]

It he can drop any weapons just lower chance

[leaden vapor]

I'm trying to complete the squire's quest, "The Squire's Daydream," and I need to find the 'Altar' location in The Frost Mountain. However, I CANNOT find a room named 'Altar" on the dark and darker tracker map. Am I missing something or does it go by another name?

[silent crater]

I think its Cave altar in game

this big room with a bridge in the middle with zombies in cages

[leaden vapor]

Teh guardpost?

[silent crater]

oh wait

i thought you meant the goblins one

[steel wind]

does raising brightness in game settings help any with visibility isues?

[crude quiver]

Is anybody else framing SUPER hard on ice caves?

[silent crater]

guardpost has like 2 staircases

[steel wind]

like I get they want a dark theme astetic but like it interfre

s with my gameplay severly

[silent crater]

Altar is the room with yeti in the middle idk if you need it for the quest though

[lunar patrol]

is bladehand considered undead?

[leaden vapor]

okay...let me search for yeti

[strong steppe]

havent played in 6 months what is best new class

[autumn geyser]

Why is this games engine so ass I have to try 4 times before I get one run where the game doesn’t crash on site or lag its brains out

And it doesn’t help how its solution to lag is completely close the game and call it a expected error

[silent crater]

Nope

[autumn geyser]

And half the time when you try to go to a different part of a dungeon it just crashes

And you have reopen the game and hope your still alive

[finite yoke]

Why exactly would the Bladehand be undead.

[dusky summit]

does fortified ground stack or nah? like if me and my buddy ran it together would it be plus 6 all att?

[hard sierra]

am i crazy or did quests unlock like an hour ago, and then now theyre gone?

[clear atlas]

other then the mountainpass, where is armillery spheres?

[fallow dirge]

welp cant play high roller anymore cause my pc doesnt support tpm 2.0 huge bummer i guess im done with this game for now rip

[silent crater]

[severe coyote]

I'll remember you.

[devout bolt]

do both elevators fall at the same time in the goblin caves

[tardy pelican]

what are the times for boats leaving ice map?

[tardy pelican]

yes

[devout bolt]

thanks

[oak kettle]

[tacit mantle]

why are you promoting cheating and rmt ironmace ? Can't you do something against it instead of pushing player to it ?

[wind prawn]

has anyone got an artifact this wipe from gobbies? I'm starting to think it's bugged lol

[gritty sorrel]

Does Mika Vista benefit from spellcasting speed?

[mighty harbor]

Does anyone know if you can see the quest updates on patch notes somewhere? Or a schedule? its weird just logging on and randomly having quests unlocked all the time

[lethal badger]

New quests comes in every week on Tuesday (Korean timezone)

[torpid quail]

can you buy back artifacts from pve?

[magic plover]

yes they do come bcak with goblin merchant(verified cuzi died with one)

[gritty sorrel]

If the gobbo happens to bring em back

[torpid quail]

right

[gritty sorrel]

I really wanna get bloodthirst but I cant do bosses

[honest cedar]

The Goblin Quests have literally vanished. They aren't even there to read
-Anyone else have this problem?

[copper lava]

Where is the altar

[hidden wedge]

Where can i use a golden key in the second floor or crypts?

[gritty sorrel]

Above the colosseum

[hidden wedge]

thanks

always north?

[gritty sorrel]

No like. Literally above it not on map

The tower has a gold door

[untold depot]

Anyone have a list of artificats trade worths?

[ebon cosmos]

I just won my first ever 1v5 as a level 9 sroc

[gritty flume]

Am i tripping or did they stealth remove the new leathersmith quests?

[high zealot]

Big circle or in the modul that thas this 3 rooms next to each other where the middle one is behind the lever. (treasure room)

[gritty flume]

Why are my leathersmith quests gone?

[compact sigil]

Hey does anyone know how to fix the "Failed to connect to server please restart game" on load up?

[high zealot]

Bug, just restart the game and there back.

[gritty flume]

Thanks

[high zealot]

youre welcome! c:

[azure bronze]

#dnd-screenshots message People hate joining into lobbies late for a reason

look at this bs

dude respawned into the same game and immediately rushed me

[high zealot]

Thanks to the stupid idea of continues dungeon...

[icy pebble]

does anyone know where spearman spawn in ruins

[still cloud]

how do i have 14 quests for alchemist done and still no white pots? wtf?

[gritty sorrel]

Dooooes spellcasting speed work with Mika Vista

[ebon cosmos]

I always thought he said "Makea Fista"

[gritty sorrel]

Its Mica Vesta Julien but Mika Vista sounds more accurate so I call it that

Its genuinly so fucking good lmao, Ive been sleeping on cleric hard it might be my fav class now

[azure bronze]

mimic liar in crypts has a few

along with that module that has the skele wiz inside 4 walls

[ebon cosmos]

if you can land the judgement then all you need is like 1 or 2 smite bonks with a morning star to finish the fight

[gritty sorrel]

If ur going agaist pdr player it usually takes Mika and ~4 hits for me

Its funny how if you have it its worth it to stop mid chase for a moment

Imagine if you could use it while moving

[steep acorn]

This game is dog-shit

[gritty sorrel]

Then dont play it. Simple as that aint nobody forcing you to be here talking smack

[steep acorn]

I’ll just leave a tasteful review on steam then lol

[gritty sorrel]

Go ahead

[steep acorn]

👍🏼

[snow shuttle]

This game has so many updates its crazy

[gritty sorrel]

There's still a good bunch of people who enjoy it we dont need you here dragging everyone down

[steep acorn]

It’s gets worse and worse every update

[gritty sorrel]

More updates better than no updates, no?

[snow shuttle]

Yes

[gritty sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/shoo-go-away-johnny-depp-captain-jack-sparrow-gif-4877675

[snow shuttle]

I really like the game, but a little balance can be great

[ripe stream]

is the game still worth playing?

[gritty sorrel]

I feel like its mostly balanced rn

[gritty sorrel]

We cant decide that for you figure it out yorself

[ripe stream]

haven’t played in definitely a year

[snow shuttle]

Fighter and warlock is broken a bit

[ripe stream]

long sword fighter?

[snow shuttle]

Yes

And hallberd

[ripe stream]

YES FINALLY

[snow shuttle]

Just perry and win

[gritty sorrel]

But they arent (titlecard), last season fighter was crazier but this season warlock is a bit overtuned. No idea why not like warlock got buffed

[snow shuttle]

It's like 80% of my fights are warlocks

Mostly platelocks

[gritty sorrel]

Yeah I see a lot of em too

[snow shuttle]

Why does he have spells and plate at the same time?

Im barb btw

[gritty sorrel]

Another reason why I love Cleric, counters warlock a bit

[snow shuttle]

I can't do anything

[ebon cosmos]

So one W key class is whining about another W key class

[snow shuttle]

It's not really a w

You know that every one is pressing w

[gritty sorrel]

Fucking hate you all I keep getting 2 tapped in norms by 50% pdb barbs

😭

[snow shuttle]

Just because barb doesn't have range doesn't mean im pressing w

[gritty sorrel]

Use hurl weapon its funny af

[snow shuttle]

Bardiche

[gritty sorrel]

Ive gotten one tapped by a barb sniping me with hurl weapon to the head...

[snow shuttle]

Im playing white gear

[gritty sorrel]

Meh too mostly

[ebon cosmos]

So nice that warlocks on top of being tanky af, strong af with spells AND melee, are also able to chase you down no problems in heavy gear

[gritty sorrel]

Yeah warlock is rly good rn

[ebon cosmos]

Broken is more like it

Like here check out my last death. Do I belong in a helmet because how tf does this reach me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GHp-qI7Maw

I don't see it. Does demon form say in it's description it gives phantom range?

Not only was he way further behind me than I've ever been able to land a blow at, he didn't even swing AT me he swong at the wall and it still registered

[azure bronze]

why does alchemist have so many quests out bro 😭

[proud marten]

market is open ?

[gritty sorrel]

In like 12 hours I think

[proud marten]

ty

[ebon cosmos]

17 hours

[edgy sable]

market resident sleeper amirite

[ebon cosmos]

I wanna say it was like 8 hours then everybody lost a bunch of quests then went to 17

[edgy sable]

resident market sleeper

if possible would you go deeper in the dungeon, like if there was a 4th or 5th level?!

[deft robin]

wyvern is such a bugged boss

[dull plank]

Guys please look at the bard server and look what I got

[gritty sorrel]

Depends on What’s down yher

There*

But first i’d love to see 3 levels in all dungeons

[ebon cosmos]

HOW IS MORNING STAR STILL SO FUCKING BROKEN SDF YOU INCOMPETENT FLATFOOT

[keen mauve]

morning star broken? that's a first

Why aren't you complaining about halberds

[ebon cosmos]

I complain about warlocks in general

halberds is part of that complaint

[gritty sorrel]

How is morning star broken

It has almost the exact same damage, armor pen and move set as all the other hammers

[ebon cosmos]

I parry the ball part of the morning star with my longsword and it phases through it like it's not even fuckin' there

[gritty sorrel]

That’s not morning star issue that’s a desync and lag issue

Ypu cant put lag on a weapon being broken💀

Elsewise we would all be fighting with slings and fists

[ebon cosmos]

Also have you tried getting a 2 bonk in squire kit as a cleric with war hammer or club? Just doesn't happen.

[gritty sorrel]

Club is kinda ass

[torn patio]

Trying to complete a squire quest but can't find the "Altar" location on ice map, any help would be appreciated

[gritty sorrel]

Warhammer is almost exact same as flanged mace or morning star

[gritty sorrel]

Its the square room

With a chest and a yeti was it

[torn patio]

Is it on level 1? Or when you drop in level 2

[gritty sorrel]

I think its 1st

[torn patio]

Got it, square room with chest and yeti

will try to find it, thank you

[chilly crane]

i just got preteamed on by a stack of 6 wizards dude

that was so crazy

just a million fireballs

[gusty sierra]

where to get 'broken glasses'?

[gritty sorrel]

Looks a bit similiar to the was it altar b in goblin caves

[gritty sorrel]

Oh god that sounds chaotic

[ebon cosmos]

If I wanted to try support bard what songs should I focus on?

[gritty sorrel]

Allegro is crazy good

[torn patio]

I got them from Inferno (level 3 castle), they drop from the little demon dudes that heal other mobs

[gritty sorrel]

Its what 18% action speed

[ebon cosmos]

is the game constantly dc'ing anyone else

[gritty sorrel]

Like once every two hours

[ebon cosmos]

I've tried setting up songs in bard twice now and each time I get booted out

[gusty sierra]

i''l give em a go, thanks.

[gritty sorrel]

Thats odd

[chilly crane]

we got absolutely rolled but it was hilarious

[ebon cosmos]

SDF must of seen a mean message I left in discord and he doesn't forgive, he doesn't forget and he's taking vengeance by terminating my connection over and over

[gritty sorrel]

Yea probably. 6v3 is prolly not very fair

[ebon cosmos]

what are the important stats for bard? Dex/knowledge?

[edgy sable]

luck

dwarf skin

golden skeleton skin limited time offer

[ebon cosmos]

looking for real answers not troll ones

[edgy sable]

Well after those stats you want dex, so you can pull the pile faster.

[snow shuttle]

I say play ranger

[edgy sable]

At 700iq I am pretty sure we are supposed to be playing 'protect the vip' which is a bard in full luck kit that you walk around the map to find great loot for you

[azure bronze]

where is the abandoned sanctuary?

[ebon cosmos]

except I'm level 1 and I'll be playing with randoms in squire royale. Ain't nobody protecting me for shit

[stone panther]

It is chapel on top layer, with the harpies. East of spectral

[azure bronze]

ohh thanks

[ebon cosmos]

some day I'll find a random group of squires that can kill things

[edgy sable]

thats hard c ause ure also against the 5k hour team that are super nasty at the game

[ebon cosmos]

Ran into the most aids comp I've ever seen just now in SR. Sorc to root people in place and Barbarian with Halberd and Warlock with Halberd...

I'm running all the buff songs so I don't know why I'm only putting like 2 buffs on people

[coarse sequoia]

theres only a couple songs that apply buffs to team mates

rousing rhythms, allegro, accelerando for buffs

tranquility for healing, chorale of clarity for spells

[high zealot]

Since when can barb play halberd?

[coarse sequoia]

🤷‍♂️

could you imagine that though, lol

[ebon cosmos]

I meant bardiche

jesus what the fuck game

the moment I try to play a support role like bard I start gettign d/c'd every game

[shrewd cove]

So, last upgrade of the workshop is 50k gold required.
1k to unlock, 2.5k for lv2, 5k lv3, 15k lv4, 50k, max lv, 73.5k total gold, times 4 for all workshops, 294k gold liquid. Just for the upgrades, Easily gets over 300k with all the fees from crafting, enhancing, rebuilding, and scrapping.
plus 200k for religion
plus 4k for pve maps
Meaning you will have to farm minimum 498k gold just to get all content in a season.
And you also have to farm gold for merchants, stashes, expressman, etc etc

Season is still 2 months right?

Even so, that number is ridiculous

[silent crater]

it's not really that bad

[ebon cosmos]

it is for everyone that's not a turbo sweat

[shrewd cove]

perhaps not for someone thats had the game for years, but someone who just starts?

Having to learn pve, pvp, and farm that amount of gold, just to getall the seasonal content?

astonishing

[silent crater]

you don't need workshop

[ebon cosmos]

If you wanna upgrade your meh gear into bis gear you do

[shrewd cove]

thats not a reason to justify something being ridiculously hard to obtain

[silent crater]

well i don't really

[silent crater]

there's no point to obtain it

i mean sure there is if you want to make your gear better but with all that money you invested into workshop you could buy 300 pieces like that

[full monolith]

Market opens tomorrow right?

[ebon cosmos]

I noticed though this game does have a really shitty matchmaking system. Whenever I queue up as a caster I get predominantly caster teammates. When I queue up as melee it's mostly melee teammates. When I queue as a rogue it's mainly rogue/bard. What super dumb mm system.

[silent crater]

It's random

[ebon cosmos]

Sure feels pretty consistent

For all these OP warlocks/barbs/fighters why aren't any of them ever on MY team?

[silent crater]

idk champ

[ebon cosmos]

I used to think I was the problem. Then I went into a solo game on a class I've never played before and I 1v5'd so I know it's not a me issue.

What's best for supp cleric? Knowledge, will or a bit of both?

[silent crater]

knowledge prob

it gives casting speed

plus more spells

[coarse sequoia]

you only really need knowledge up until your mem cap, will for damaging spells and magical healing for healing spells (other than holy strike or whatever, thats will)

[shrewd cove]

I dunno if a better farm method is out, but farming artifacts didnt use to be the best method for liquid, as 99% of the time you traded unless selling to a rmter.
Last time I played was back when water map dropped and the best way to farm liquid gold with minimal risk was getting treasure from barnacles.
This way earns me about 2k/10 minutes. Meaning that if I farmed the most optimal way with the least risk I would be farming in game for 41.5 hours straight, give a few hours for que time, menu time. Also assuming I never got interrupted. Just for the gold total of the 498k, not counting all logs, equipment scrap and other criteria. Idont like my games feeling like a job. Just saying

[coarse sequoia]

you could just roll cast speed if you need more

unless you j ust want to apply buffs, tyhen no mag healing

[shrewd cove]

Dont sleep on cast speed

[ebon cosmos]

I'm playing squire lobbies so no rolling anything gotta stick with what squire kits give

[shrewd cove]

Very useful with sup cleric

squire kits gonna be mostly knowledge anyways

[coarse sequoia]

not to sleep on it, but its going to be more second tier to whatever it is you want to do

[silent crater]

it doesn't have to feel like a job if you're having fun

[shrewd cove]

does cleric heal still scale off mag power or did that get changed

[coarse sequoia]

mag healing

[silent crater]

healing

[coarse sequoia]

i dont think anything else

othjer than that one spell that can also damage undead

[shrewd cove]

I know it scales off mag healing, used to scale with mag pwr bonus as well

druids didnt tho

[wheat bolt]

solo arena coming

🫣

[shrewd cove]

boring

arena is for the boys

[wheat bolt]

👉 👈 but but

[coarse sequoia]

healing a team mate with divine strike or holy strike whatever its called, should scale off magic damage... so will and mag power

i dont think it scales off mag healing but i could be wrong

[delicate gazelle]

what is up with the frame drop im loosing so many frames and i didnt use to?

[lucid veldt]

is solo/due arena queue means 1v1, 2v2 or matches are still 3v3?

[coarse sequoia]

3v3

always

[wheat bolt]

amen

[ebon cosmos]

what's a better squire kit weapon for cleric? Book or staff?

[dull plank]

Dang it man arena delayed

[drifting raptor]

depends on what your doing

[ebon cosmos]

support

[coarse sequoia]

weapon? will be morning star. otherwise book or ceremonial staff

[drifting raptor]

squire? book by a mile

[shrewd cove]

cleric dmg spells scale off true, add, and bonus, healing spells used to scale off mag healing and bonus. Not sure if they scale off bonus anymore. Im also not sure iff true is still in the game

[ebon cosmos]

the +4 magical healing on ceremonial isnt' worth it on cleric ?

[drifting raptor]

on squire it’s so slow man

[ebon cosmos]

ah

[drifting raptor]

your boys will be dead by the time your shooting your beak

heal*

[shrewd cove]

action speed on the staffs leave much to be desired, and they are ez to bump

[drifting raptor]

ye that’s my 2 cents

if you like staff more just use it but i’d say do book

[shrewd cove]

but in a proper kit, like an arena one, if Im running full sup cleric I use it, or have it as a hot swap

[ebon cosmos]

what are the good spells to run on supp cleric?

[shrewd cove]

double spell mem? or single

[ebon cosmos]

I'd imagine bubble, blessing, and weapon buff and a heal or two but dunno what else

[lime pine]

Any idea if 'solo' arena is not just 'Solo queue into trio Arena'?

[drifting raptor]

it’s all 3v3

[dense sigil]

Wait so its always 3v3 but you can Q as 1 or 2?

[lime pine]

Bruh

[drifting raptor]

yes

1v1s would suck

[ancient mango]

Why are we splitting the playerbase this hard? Adding solo/duo Arena makes zero sense when the game doesn’t have a massive population like Fortnite. Every new queue divides matchmaking even more.

We already have Normals, Squire, and High Roller, all with solo, duo, and trio queues. Now Arena too? At some point you’re just spreading the community so thin that matchmaking quality, queue times, and overall game health start tanking.

More modes don’t automatically make the game better. If the playerbase isn’t big enough to support them, it just fragments the community and hurts everyone’s experience.

[dense sigil]

what 1v1 and 2v2s would be peak

[lime pine]

2v2 would be cool

[coarse sequoia]

the ceremonial will be "better", book is quicker. gotta decide which you want

[drifting raptor]

it’s the same mode

[shrewd cove]

2v2 but not 1v1

it would be giga chase sim

[drifting raptor]

it isn’t splitting the playerbase it’s just another leaderboard

same old arena

[lime pine]

tbh 1v1 and 3v3 arena all have the problem of getting steamrolled because of freaking team comp. SDF sucked at balancing team comp, so do Paul.

[dense sigil]

Do we have to delay arena cant you give us the old version until the new one is ready hello

[ebon cosmos]

To be honest it wouldn't split the playerabse that much. Most people want solo queue modes.

so most of the community would be there

[shrewd cove]

psure its just leaderboards and new version launching late no? regular arena opens tomorrow

[ebon cosmos]

But SDF sucks so he only supports trios

[dense sigil]

SDF is the goat yall are crybabys

[ancient mango]

Use your brain on why that’s a bad idea that a game with a 4K player count lol there are gonna be 10 different ques.

[shrewd cove]

game and chars arent in a good enough state for 1v1s anyways, too many playstyles and archetypes revolve around a team

[light radish]

@versed sinew

[dense sigil]

game has consistntly been at 10k for a long time

[ancient mango]

10k is not very much…. It sits between 5-8

[dense sigil]

ok but you said 4k

[shrewd cove]

Something I think would be cool is if you que but it puts you and your opponent as the same class with same perks and gear, you dont que with a char and kit. that would be cool 1v1

[dense sigil]

it is a lot when its 10k 24 hours a day that means a lot more than 10k dummy

[ancient mango]

It goes back and forth rarely it ever sits at 10

[hardy stump]

well, you can't heal with either of these so....

[coarse sequoia]

you guys ever be looting the pile, and you obviously want that artifact pull, but sometimes you lowkey dont want it because if you get it, you have a long stressful trek to a blue?

[bright garnet]

@hallow atlas

[shrewd cove]

artifacts drop from piles now?

[edgy sable]

divine strike to full hp back in the lobby!

[ancient mango]

Youre used to playing dead games? 10k isn’t very many players and it rarely ever stays at 10k for any period of time

[ebon cosmos]

Is the US East server sweatier than the US West one?

[ancient mango]

10k players for 10 different ques lmao SMART MOVE ironmace

[dense sigil]

I can Q and get a game 24 hours a day quickly I dont think you know what a dead game looks like. It doesnt have to be valorant Get out of here nexon shill

[coarse sequoia]

they did before

[ancient mango]

Yeah dead lobbies.

[coarse sequoia]

key rooms and double boss pile

[drifting raptor]

@fallen schooner explode this guys gonads

[lime pine]

Judgement healing teammates changed my mind.

[ebon cosmos]

Holy fuck wtf happened to the queue? Been sitting in SR queue for like 3 minutes

[ancient mango]

Going into HR to find one other team sounds so fun

[drifting raptor]

there’s not more ques cussy

use your brain

[edgy sable]

too many try hards in s2r

[halcyon kayak]

How long is it till the market is open

[coarse sequoia]

15 hours

[halcyon kayak]

w

[ebon cosmos]

I'd play normals in a group but having to actually whisper people and deal with that toxic end of the group system? Uck no thanks

[coarse sequoia]

and 39 minutes

[ancient mango]

If you que into solo Arena then you’re taking that placement away from trio. Do you even have a brain dawg?

[drifting raptor]

are you extra fire retardant
?

[ancient mango]

Mr loves dead lobbies

[ebon cosmos]

extra fire tardy

[onyx wraith]

does hr overseer have same mechs as normal?

[slow scaffold]

Can we craft spec bags with the new quest?

[drifting raptor]

not right now

[lime pine]

Tbh they should limit SR team size to like 4-5, theres just too many people fighting rn.

[slow scaffold]

ty

[coarse sequoia]

man i want the patch where were we dont get stuck on and cant jump over shit that is knee height, or getting stuck on something and just levitating in the air until you die

at least half the people dont know how to use the halberd

[ebon cosmos]

You don't need to know how to use the halberd. All you need to do is have the fuckin' demon skin equipped and that shit gets phantom range

[lime pine]

Is this a thing?

[coarse sequoia]

half the people i run into just constantly miss with some basic straffing

[lime pine]

Not that I'm buying the skin but, sounds like conspiracy

[bright garnet]

@lilac atlas @hallow atlas

[proven mesa]

@zinc sparrow Can you guys working on fixing the bug that allows druids to leave the key room through a crack in the roomon the water map? kthx

[ebon cosmos]

I have a recording of a ddue who just completely whiffed a swing from a mile away and still hit me so...

[lime pine]

Sounds like bad connection / hacks. Nothing to do with the skin imo

[coarse sequoia]

i mean its probably lag, but i get some insanely weird shit happening and i get a lot of bans every time i log in

today i got 6 bans

[lime pine]

There use to be hacks that does this in playtest, not sure abt now.

[coarse sequoia]

there is 100% hacks now

[lime pine]

20 meter felling axes etc.

[coarse sequoia]

i only play HR, and i get ban confirmations every single time i log in

[lime pine]

I'm just saying that this paticular hack might not exist anymore, heard rumor that it's fixed. But again.... gold dup was also 'fixed' for the 20th time

[coarse sequoia]

i dunno, i just had a cleric with a morning star out range my rapier by a very large amount. might have been lag, except i almost never lag

i guess i will find out next time i log in 🙂

[fickle ridge]

is the spellplunder rod obtainable still or has it not came back in the reworked loot system

[bright garnet]

@lilac atlas

[drifting raptor]

wym? the weapon doesn’t get bigger

[drifting raptor]

the weapons only get bigger in the demon form ability not the demon skin

[untold depot]

I swear I had goblin merchant tasks, and weaponsmith and now they're jsut gone??

[drifting raptor]

quest bug, go into a raid and check your quests and it will display , restarting game fully fixed it for me

[coarse sequoia]

no, but there is (or was) a hack that you could hit someone from well outside your own weapons range

[lime pine]

Really? Didn't know that this is a thing. So dwarfs get smaller halberd or smt? That's not the case for shield.

[untold depot]

thx

[coarse sequoia]

so "weapon bigger"

[drifting raptor]

no, skins do not affect weapon size. that’s why when dwarf dropped they changed shield sizes

the ONLY thing that makes your weapon bigger is the warlock demon fork ability, not the demon race skin

[lime pine]

Interesting, thanks for the info.

[drifting raptor]

ya it’s weird

[drifting raptor]

you can do that with any weapon just crank your frame rate to the max

[lime pine]

I never tried halberd demonlock, feels that it's slow enough already, might give it another go.

[drifting raptor]

increase reach for whatever reason

but makes blocking and parrying worse

[lime pine]

Lmao holy spaghetti code

[coarse sequoia]

ive seen videos where people land hits from half a module away, the weapon doesnt look any bigger obviously

[drifting raptor]

less frames better blocking

more frames worse blocking better reach

[lime pine]

Also heard that if you get worse internet, your attack will go through enemy shield. IM truly have magnificant net code.

[drifting raptor]

spaghetti asf

[drifting raptor]

nah that’s better for the shield user, you can do old desync block by using that

but lower frames means less weapon reach

this game is goofy

[lime pine]

Basically you attack AND block better with bad internet.

[drifting raptor]

no you attack worse but block better!

again, spaghetti

[lime pine]

Not saying frame rate, I'm talking about lags. If you have like 300ms lag you can go through shield so I've heard.

[lilac atlas]

@bright garnet

@hallow atlas

[drifting raptor]

ah i see sorry i can’t speak to that no idea

[gleaming owl]

halberd nerf when?

[ebon cosmos]

Just had this ranger on my team. Least contributing member. Took all the good shit talked the most shit.

[gritty sorrel]

So if you have mid frames You’re good at everything

[echo sedge]

Wow I can't believe arenas closed for 2 more weeks that's so stupid at least open it eve. If its not the season play

[lime pine]

Theoretically if you can play on low frames. I had times with 40 fps in fight, games not playable, can't see shit

[gritty sorrel]

… 40 is low?

[lime pine]

Erm... Yes?

[orchid cove]

fix fucking fps drops!!!!

[soft plinth]

no its not 🥀

[gritty sorrel]

Ive been playing years w a computer thay could barely reach 25 in mineceaft. 60 feels like a fucking nasa computer to me

[lime pine]

Ouch, how do you hit anything that way, chad gamer

[gritty sorrel]

I recently upgraded my pc and now I get a pretty stable 60-1200 depending on game

[cobalt crown]

does this mean we won't lose any gear in arena? doesnt have to be self found?

[balmy salmon]

when the fk are they nerfing boclock / halberd? get me out

[hidden wedge]

Does anyone have a link to an updated map website?

[full monolith]

squire is entirely halberds lol

[runic isle]

yo anyone knows which one is the new Altar location in Ice Caves ?

[lime pine]

Map is randomized now, so no one is updating external map

[reef lotus]

When's trade come back? I thought the 14th but now I'm hearing the 21st and it makes me sad

[ebon cosmos]

I've been doing SR's almost exclusively for the last 3 days. I haven't won one yet.

[velvet dirge]

solo arean?
i can't imagine a barb vs rogue 1v1

[drifting raptor]

correct you keep it all!

[drifting raptor]

14 hours market opens

[drifting raptor]

it’s not solo, it’s all still the same 3v3 but with solo , duo and trio ques

[reef lotus]

So the 14th? Thank god

[gleaming owl]

theres still a week before market

[drifting raptor]

it’s 14 hours away wyn

[velvet dirge]

solo ques?
explain that

[drifting raptor]

You enter a line to get into an arena match by yourself, without any premade teams like one or two of your friends. it’s you and 5 other solo randoms with no prior coordination

so you’ll still be fighting the same 3 players against 3 players, but you can’t decide who you’re on a team with

[velvet dirge]

that's gonna give me a high winrate then

[drifting raptor]

if you can hard carry yes

[ember igloo]

What about a 6 person free for all

[drifting raptor]

that would suck

because it would be all casters

[ember igloo]

Agreed, but it would be fun

[tawny wind]

Hey guys, In my huntress shop I have an Adventures cloak with +3 Magical power, 4.9% Spell casting speed, and technically max roll magical interaction speed. Is this anything or does it being agility ruin it? Sorry I don't play any spell casters so I'm super ignorant to what they prioritise, thanks.

[lean crown]

atp just load dungeon xd

ffa until that one geared player pulls up 🥹

[cobalt crown]

thats insane, i'll just buy bis of market then

[drifting raptor]

if you don’t have any cape with near as good stats i would get that for now i’m sure you have tons of huntress coins

[tawny wind]

thanks, but I doubt I'm going to be playing anyone that would needs those stats, do you think it would sell for anything once the market opens?

[stark wing]

Wait so normal arena won't open tomorrow anymore?

[snow shuttle]

When's the next balance update?

[stone panther]

correctomundo. Not until end of the month

[stark wing]

Man that's kinda tragic... been getting my arena sets ready 😔

[stone panther]

oof. And with 3 more weeks of quests to go, those sets will be obsolete by the time arena opens and everyone has been min maxing the crafted stuff

[ember igloo]

Same, though I was gonna try speed running the new quests to craft some obsidian plate

[granite vigil]

I'm after a kind of artifact price list. Like which ones are most expensive, maybe like top 10 and typical prices.

Can't seem to find this information anywhere. Just trying to learn how my laviathans and LAD stack up on the list

[stark wing]

Yeaaaaah even worse... but alas, markets opening will make the game fun anyways

[stone panther]

prices change every season. But lad is leviathan is pretty dogshirt on the tier list, maaaaybe 1db. lad about 2db

viola is always wicked expensive, so is vulgor and cinder

[ember igloo]

There is a trade server, they might be able to help you price things

[granite vigil]

Thank you bud. Cinder drop from lava golem boss? And viola from wyvern?

[stone panther]

wyvern only drops bows these days

[granite vigil]

Oh really? Viola from crypts then?

[stone panther]

Warlord and that new guy, Overseer

[slate sapphire]

both wyvern and overseer have a 1/11 arti rate

[stone panther]

afaik:

lich: cat, ilu, spell, zirk
warlord: fulg, claw, fang, viola
ghostking: bt, db, pulv, stink
overseer: bt, db, fulg, claw, fang, pulv, stink, viola
wyvern: elven, nip, pest
stingray:: trident, lev
bladehand:: aegis, delirium, dryad
collossus: cinder, eco, fam, lad, soul

[azure bronze]

Stingray: nothing apparently

[slate sapphire]

is this confirmed?

[azure bronze]

Well over 2 thousand kills and not a single artifact

[azure bronze]

This is pretty much the common consensus

[slate sapphire]

you do not have 2k kills on ray wtf 😭

[azure bronze]

Well over 2k by now

[slate sapphire]

i wouldve thought each boss would have the same pool just a different rarity drop rate

[granite vigil]

Hero!

[azure bronze]

I thought a ton of people how to do that boss in the first place

[woeful bluff]

Nope

[stone panther]

also scraped, he is free to check it in dadtracker by clicking on every boss

[slate sapphire]

whats the point in farming the other bosses though considering wyvern and overseer have the highest drop rate?

[azure bronze]

Because they won't drop the artifacts not in their pool?

Also there are two bosses in other maps

[woeful bluff]

There isnt much lol. Troll for pelt. And now that the second floor is random boss, overseer is the best option, highest drop rate and best artifacts. Easy boss too.

[azure bronze]

Hey y'all can do whatever, as long as I'm left alone doing stingray I don't mind

[woeful bluff]

You can have that map all to yourself lol. Never see me there

[slate sapphire]

i wanna learn overseer but theres always people :(

[azure bronze]

Good, I hate it here too

Genuine spaghetti code istg

[stone panther]

on norms he is pretty empty, took a buddy training there a bunch. Could easily get him ressed 6-7 times per round while learning. Everyone is either on pve or hr for him

[slate sapphire]

i wish there was like a staging branch where u can just spawn in the arena and fight the boss - no drops etc

[woeful bluff]

Just gotta be first or kill everyone else. Or do norms and do it with others.

[woeful bluff]

Lol

[azure bronze]

Even fully knowing stingray, sometimes the game pulls out some bull because the code is awful and you die anyways

[ebon cosmos]

ppl are gonna be forced to do water tomorrow because tons of ppl will need tidestone ingots for their jewelry

[woeful bluff]

Test server maybe if you have blacksmith

[slate sapphire]

what is that?

[woeful bluff]

Good thing I can buy them on the market. Cant force me to go there

[azure bronze]

I don't do solos on that map because it's always full of ppl rushing stingray/teaming, so I just bring people along to give them the tidestone after i do the boss because I'm not gonna bother getting it

[woeful bluff]

Are you on blacksmith launcher?

[slate sapphire]

no, steam

[ebon cosmos]

I think they did that once. All the strummers and sweat lords played arena on the test server and when it went live nobody was in the mood to play it anymore

[stone panther]

my stash full of crab shells is waiting for you guyses wallets

[woeful bluff]

Then you cant use the test server.

[slate sapphire]

awh

[ebon cosmos]

is the boss the only place you can get tidestone ore?

[woeful bluff]

Haha! Business man!

[azure bronze]

No, you can get it in the big hole too

In the middle of the map

[ebon cosmos]

that just sucks you to your death

[stone panther]

only if you go balls deep, the ore is near the top

[ebon cosmos]

this run I'm in needs to hurry up and end I'm about to shit my pants

[azure bronze]

Seriously why does that big hole even exist

There's no way they don't add a second floor right

[slate sapphire]

guys i got a fulgor with

+3 phys
+2.7% phys bonus
+2 add damage
+3.9% mage pen

will this sell good?

[woeful bluff]

One day

[azure bronze]

Very very well

Extremely good rolls

[slate sapphire]

its my 2nd arti ive pulled since i started playing

[azure bronze]

You got one of the best artifacts in the game

[slate sapphire]

how should i sell it? do i trade for chests

im too scared to use it

[azure bronze]

Nah tbh

Trade it for a ton of other artifacts

Just wait a bit, that fulgor will be worth a ton no matter when

[slate sapphire]

so i should trade for artis and not sell direct

[woeful bluff]

Let me hold that for you

[azure bronze]

Use it in pve

[slate sapphire]

thats boring though

i wanna sell it and buy kits for HR

[azure bronze]

Still fun to slap a boss like warlord with it

[woeful bluff]

Do you want to trade it for artifacts to use? Or do you want money?

[gritty sorrel]

Is he hard?

[slate sapphire]

i want money

[azure bronze]

Not really when you get used to it

[gritty sorrel]

Troll or Sting harder?

[azure bronze]

Stingray

[gritty sorrel]

Aight prolly cant do em then tyyy

[slate sapphire]

ngl id say troll harder

[azure bronze]

But stingray id say is easier than spectral

[woeful bluff]

Probably trade it for chests, and then sell the chests or trade for spec bags. Sell those, so you dont run out of room for gold

[stone panther]

wait until market opens up and trade it for like 5-7 deathblooms.
those you then sell/trade towards chests or gold. That thing is worth more gold than you can carry

[gritty sorrel]

Oh? Well maeby

[azure bronze]

It's barely harder than troll, just some extra mechanics

[slate sapphire]

ooh okay

[gritty sorrel]

I can 65% do spectral and 95% do troll

[azure bronze]

Very mindless when you're used to it

[gleaming owl]

real shit why is religion so expensive this wipe

2 mil for a skin

[azure bronze]

If you run fighter or sorc it's basically free

[gleaming owl]

is rediculous

[azure bronze]

Especially sorc

[woeful bluff]

Probably give it a week too maybe. So everyone can cash in on everything they sell when markets up

[gritty sorrel]

Cleric work?

[azure bronze]

Sorc is the best class for stingray

[stone panther]

🧊

[azure bronze]

Any class that uses a longsword is what you wanna do tbh

[gritty sorrel]

Ooookayy

[azure bronze]

Sorc is the best because icebound

[gritty sorrel]

Maeby ill try em idk

[azure bronze]

Just lets you ignore the phase mechanic

[ebon cosmos]

imagine how even more op sorc would be right now with that root spell if they could use halberds/bardiches

[azure bronze]

They still haven't patched how you can use it to troll in pve btw

[gritty sorrel]

I really wanna do bossing for artifacts but I cant kill any ones consistently which drop artifacts

[slate sapphire]

can anyone help coach me on overseer.
I know how to do it i just struggle in practice

[ebon cosmos]

how long does it take for the third floor to open portals?

[woeful bluff]

Keep learning

[gritty sorrel]

I can go die to it before you try it so you get motivational boost

[slate sapphire]

😭

[azure bronze]

I'll be on later today, if you see me join up and I can give you a run down

[gritty sorrel]

It took me like 20 hours of playing in a row to learn troll I aint ddoing that again that was horrible

[azure bronze]

I'll let you get the tide stone too I don't really want it tbh

[gritty sorrel]

W

[slate sapphire]

make him go wizard so u can cut the time in half

[azure bronze]

Not how that works

[ebon cosmos]

anyone? is portal time on 3rd floor same as on the other 2?

[woeful bluff]

Id just watch a tutorial on the new boss then. Memorize what they do. And the weapon and class they use. Then go for it. Shouldn't take that long. I dont know troll, but I can almost do the new boss

[slate sapphire]

i thought having someone magic missile shreds it aswell

[azure bronze]

If other people are in the arena it makes it harder and take longer

[gritty sorrel]

Isnt wizard horrible in water cuz his best spells are fire

[slate sapphire]

really? i used to do it with a mate and it never aggrod on him

[azure bronze]

I can already do it in under 3 minutes on squire kit dude

[slate sapphire]

wow

[gritty sorrel]

Ive tried but I just dont learn from tutorials

[azure bronze]

Having someone mess with its ai will just make it annoying

Not easier

[gritty sorrel]

I just need to bash my head agaist a wall until I get it

[azure bronze]

Well it depends if the stingray is being annoying or not

[woeful bluff]

Well lol. Then just keep loading in and learning the mechanics. You never played elden ring? Same concept. Gotta grind and keep trying

[azure bronze]

If it spams parryable moves it makes it a lot faster

Stuff like the air gun it has add to the time

Usually 3-6 minutes though

[gritty sorrel]

Ive beaten the game besides promised consort

It was fucking horrible but i’d do it again

[slate sapphire]

its like that for overseer i just hate the hassle of having to go down the floors

[woeful bluff]

These bosses should be a breeze then haha

[slate sapphire]

i just wanna spawn at it and just keep trying

[gritty sorrel]

Malenia is 100 times easier than troll I fucking swear😭

[woeful bluff]

Yeah. Thankfully you don't have to wait too long. But the waiting adds up

[ebon cosmos]

because elden ring is a polished game

[azure bronze]

Unless some spaghetti code happens like getting caught on an invisible rock when trying to enter a bubble and dying to phase (happened today)

Or the stingray pushing it's model inside of yours while doing a big dash causing it to instantly kill you (happened yesterday)

Awfully coded istg

It was 5 times worse when it first released

[gritty sorrel]

Fair enuff

[azure bronze]

I've 100%ed every souls game in every edition

[gritty sorrel]

Big W

[azure bronze]

I hate dark souls 2

Awful game

[gritty sorrel]

LOL

[azure bronze]

Every other souls game is great

[ebon cosmos]

what a bunch of fucking losers. Two warlocks teaming up with like 5 faust mobs

[azure bronze]

Ds2 sucks balls

If you don't play sotfs and play the regular ds2 it sucks even more balls because it's just empty too

[ebon cosmos]

People who hate Ds2 got into the franchise at Elden Ring and skipped DS2 because people told them they suck they don't have any actual experience with it.

[azure bronze]

Nope I started with ds1 and love it it's my favorite game

I played through the entirety of ds2 and 100%ed. Twice. I really wanted to like it

[ebon cosmos]

It can't suck balls and be your favorite game

[azure bronze]

It's just not a good game.

[vestal needle]

New necromancer class released???

[pure trout]

is spectral knight drop bugged?

[azure bronze]

Ds1 is my favorite

I didn't say ds2 was

[granite vigil]

Now that goblin quests are here. Do we have goblin recovery in hr?

[pure trout]

I killed him 15 times now with 20 luck on each ring and no spec fabric drop

Yesterday i killed him 8 time and got 3

[gritty sorrel]

Isnt it like 5% drop rate?

You could just be unlucky

[ebon cosmos]

What about Ds2 in your opinion makes it a bad game? You know everything you love about ER was derived from DS2 right?

[pure trout]

i think its 10 in normals

and 20% in HRi

[gritty sorrel]

Cant be that high no way

Especially when troll is 5 and 10

[azure bronze]

I really need to start creating an essay to copy paste with how many times I have to go through this

[gritty sorrel]

Atleast it was last season

[copper sequoia]

Good night adventures.

[gritty sorrel]

LMFAO

[azure bronze]

Who said I love ER too

[gritty sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/waving-joy-lizard-hi-there-well-hello-there-gif-15622233555234689915

ER is awesome and horrible at the same time

My playstyle might just be the horrible part ngl

[azure bronze]

Ds1>Ds3>ER imo

[pure trout]

also old rusty is rigged, 6 opens 5 of them were ring of survival

[azure bronze]

I don't love elden ring lmfao

[ebon cosmos]

But it's your top 3 soulsborne games

[gritty sorrel]

You guys are getting keys?

[pure trout]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Droprates

its 10% in normals it has to be bugged

[spring sand]

Havent played in a while, red stairs arent opening?
tried twice now and both times didnt open
even waited until there was a minute left

[pure trout]

thats updated Wiki btw with demon overseer

[granite vigil]

Now that goblin quests are here. Do we have goblin recovery in hr?

[azure bronze]

Ds1>Ds3>bloodborne>sekiro>ER>demon souls> ds2

[keen summit]

where are people farming legendary-unique essence massacred 50 turtles and got none

[azure bronze]

No, it isn't

[pure trout]

Never let arcaz rate again

[ebon cosmos]

Sekiro isn't a soulslike

[pure trout]

I 100% every darksouls game and all good soulslikes (lies of p, lords of the fallen, even code piss 1 and 2)

[azure bronze]

Correct, but it is a soulsborne

[pure trout]

and ds1 is not the best

[ebon cosmos]

No it's not

Soulsborne = Dark SOULS + BloodBORNE

[azure bronze]

Mechanically? No. In terms of effect it had in me and my enjoyment? It's my favorite

[ebon cosmos]

I bet I can predict your next 2 opinions

[azure bronze]

Imagine trying to argue without even knowing the terminologies lmfao

[ebon cosmos]

You LOVE Lies of P and HATE Lords of the Fallen's reboot

[azure bronze]

💀

[azure bronze]

Lies of P was alright, over hyped

Never played lords of the fallen

[azure bronze]

LoP gets very repetitive

[gritty sorrel]

I find it extremely funny how ppl are arguing about your prefrences here
”Noo you cant like that! You cant hate that!”

[ebon cosmos]

If you view Dark Souls 1 as your goat of the genre, then you do owe it to yourself to check it out.

[azure bronze]

Its a classic with ds2 fanboys

[gritty sorrel]

Only soulslikes or soulsbornes Ive played are ER and both Hollow Knights

[ebon cosmos]

I'm not saying he can or can't hate something I'm asking him why and he's not answering the question.

[azure bronze]

Ds3 is objectively better...yet ds1 is still my favorite. Crazy how that works right

[slate sapphire]

what is this argument

[gritty sorrel]

Prefrences dont need explanation. Some stuff just gives a straight up better feeling to some people

[pure trout]

ds2 was terrible to 100%

although the ng+ was prob the funnest

[azure bronze]

I can't like ds1 and not like ds2 apparently according to @ebon cosmos

[pure trout]

cuz it was actually different

[ebon cosmos]

Arcaz says Dark Souls 2 is a bad game I asked him why and he refuses to explain

[pure trout]

something its clunky its mechanics are frustrating

curse feels bad dmg feels off and isnt consistent

do you need more? i can give you 10 more

[azure bronze]

I didn't refuse to explain, I was refuting your 18 assumptions about my opinions this entire time lol

[ebon cosmos]

I asked why you thought it was a bad game and you STILL haven't answered the question

[pure trout]

stamina bar was horrendous too, dodge takes more stamina than most attacks by far and also 5 iframes?

[ebon cosmos]

You know there's a stat for that right?

[gritty sorrel]

Could it be that he hasnt gotten a turn to speak because a certain something keeps putting words in peoples mouths

[azure bronze]

You know I was typing it out just now but then I realized it would be WAY funnier to just not give you an explanation so you self validate yourself

[pure trout]

why would you need a stat for that in the first place

also waste of limited souls

[azure bronze]

Because the end result is the same anyways

[gritty sorrel]

LMFAO

[ebon cosmos]

He's had plenty of time to speak and he's done so constantly. Just nothing he has said has been an answer.

[gritty sorrel]

Gotta love to see it LOL

[ebon cosmos]

It's not hard to play the game with the default amount of iframes. Is it HARDER? sure. Is it undoable? Absolutely not.

[pure trout]

Also DS2 probably has the worst starting area choices by far even worse than DS1 with graveyard

[gritty sorrel]

Anyhow which boss should I bang my head agaist next? Properly learn Spec Knight or go for one of the arti bosses?

[true surge]

Where is the creepy ridge located to kill it?

[ebon cosmos]

It's cute you thought that's what you were doing.

[pure trout]

Something i accidentally played it on hardcore mode cuz i joined a covenant at majula and didnt know that it would make the game harder

[slate sapphire]

crypts bosses are pretty forgiving to learn

[azure bronze]

Do a couple runs of bladehand, his hr boss fight is hilarious

[gritty sorrel]

I can like 65% do Spec Knight

[pure trout]

i was disappointed when leaving the covenant cuz the game was more enjoyable in HC

[slate sapphire]

2nd floor crypts i mean

[pure trout]

but the sentinels were not possible solo that was cancer

[gritty sorrel]

Oh god Ive tried him a few times and always end up one shot

[slate sapphire]

not castle

[gritty sorrel]

Ah

[true surge]

and I'm also interested in the locations: rivers of blood and a hidden altar

[azure bronze]

Wait until he calls an airstrike

[signal spade]

wait phys power 4 exists?!

[slate sapphire]

dont get rivers of blood please

[gritty sorrel]

Ive seen that happen when I went to third party an extremely kitted out team

[ebon cosmos]

I've done it. And damage IS consistent in the game. You just need to ugprade your gear more often than in the other souls games.

[gritty sorrel]

Got one or two shot

[azure bronze]

It's not even worth it tbh he drops the worst artifacts

[pure trout]

bs statement theres plenty of videos disproving that. Dmg at the tip of the sword is less than in the middle also doing collaterals lowers your dmg substantially

[gritty sorrel]

Man I’d just want an artifact

[pure trout]

also enemies sometimes get 1 tapped then not ur just lying atp

[pure trout]

do Wyvern

got a Nip with +2 with my friend

[gritty sorrel]

Ive been thinking about it but its pretty popular and I cant do the Damn parkour because of lag

I fall off like 50% of the time

[pure trout]

At the first wyvern kill we did all season then we did him 13 more times and nothing XD

[ivory nymph]

Genuinely same

[gritty sorrel]

LOL

[azure bronze]

Jump crouch + always go to the right ones

[ebon cosmos]

You're in a discord about a game that revolves around weapon sweet spots and you're complaing about weapon sweet spots in another game?

[pure trout]

I died more to void

[pure trout]

Yes when its the only game in the series that has that get a grip dude

[gritty sorrel]

Yeah I know. But I got like inconcistent 0.1-2.0 seconds delay on every actiob

[lone panther]

what class can easily kill white sharks? got a weekly for one, havnt played in a long time

[pure trout]

also negative endurance is so bad in Ds2

[ebon cosmos]

I mean it's not. Dark Souls 1 had weapons with sweet spots. DS3 has it too. So does ER.

[azure bronze]

Guys do you think wyvern and overseer have the highest artifact drop rates because they just collect extra ones from all the people who fell to their voids

[gritty sorrel]

Yes definetly

[pure trout]

they do but the dmg difference isnt as big as in DS2

not even worth mentioning in these games

thats how low it is in DS2 its up to 30% of your dmg

[azure bronze]

Never ask a ds2 player what the hell is going on with scythes in their game btw

[gritty sorrel]

They should have like stupid low chance to give you Gear from ppl who have fallen down

[ebon cosmos]

If you're using a scythe in DS1 or 3 and you wiff the sweet spot it's a noticable damage difference

[lone panther]

ngl i played ds2/3, ER, and a tad bit of 1 and im just now finding out the weps had sweetspots

[pure trout]

you prob didnt notice

you should've noticed in DS2

im doing boss wish me luck for spec fabric attempt nr.17

[ebon cosmos]

I'm a seasoned DS2 vet and I rarely notice sweet spots

[azure bronze]

Scythes in ds2 are hilariously buggy

[gritty sorrel]

GL!

[granite vigil]

Now that goblin quests are here. Do we have goblin recovery in hr?

[gritty sorrel]

Prolly iunno

[pure trout]

spec knight dead

lets see

[gritty sorrel]

Imma go Mika Vista Wywern till I win

[pure trout]

ofc nothing game is rigged

[gritty sorrel]

That was very quick

[pure trout]

halberd with hs dmg bonus

[ebon cosmos]

Of course I'm not saying the game is flawless. There are things wrong. Like who the fuck thought it was a good idea to tie weapon durability to framerates

[pure trout]

i did him so quick that i couldnt phantomize in second phase change

[gritty sorrel]

Right if ur runnig in Gear its prolly easier

[sturdy coral]

yeah it’s there, up to 80% chance on max affinity

[drifting raptor]

he takes 45 seconds in squire gear

[pure trout]

no im blue bis

[drifting raptor]

easy af boss could prolly do blind using only sound

[gritty sorrel]

Aint no way sum1 doing him in 45 seconds in Squire

[drifting raptor]

my fastest is 37 if you wannah see

[ebon cosmos]

Is blue bis really a thing or only during SSF

[pure trout]

longsword?

[gritty sorrel]

It takes me a solid 8 minutes to die to the ”die die die” attack

[drifting raptor]

yep longsword

parry the die attack

you can quad parry him

if your in the fighter channel i can share vid

[gritty sorrel]

Yeah I learnt to Dodge it yesterday. Crouch look up with buckler

[drifting raptor]

depends if it’s the low high or high low variation

[gritty sorrel]

It works for both

[pure trout]

low tier you get so many hits off

[drifting raptor]

if your tryna be sweaty don’t dive it parry jt

[pure trout]

high tier is kinda risky

[ebon cosmos]

If you're a dwarf all you need to do is crouch I think.

[drifting raptor]

he is faster in HR

[pure trout]

HR his actionspeed is like 2x

[drifting raptor]

because he spins more and you do more riposte dps

yep

he’s more fun in hr

[sleek mountain]

does shield mastery buff longsword or only when im equiping shield

[gritty sorrel]

Only w shield

[drifting raptor]

no weapon guard is for longsword

[pure trout]

i do him in normals for quantity

its best on squire so you can just leave if you get piss

but i've decided to get old rusty

every time i get it

[ebon cosmos]

Barricade works though with longsword

[pure trout]

shield mastery used to work with longsword

that was fun insta hits

[gritty sorrel]

Cuz its ”in a defencive stance” not ”while blocking with a shield”

[ebon cosmos]

Has anyone tried shield barb since season 1?

[granite vigil]

I always take barricade on my LS fighter

[pure trout]

shield barb is poop

only good for rangers

and warlockis

[snow shuttle]

Low action speed in ggahh

[ebon cosmos]

Veteran Instinct looks like it'd be good on longsword but it never seems to make a difference in a fight for me

[pure trout]

run projectile resistance on fighter this season

saved me more than enough times

also helps against some spells

[drifting raptor]

no it’s horrible

[ebon cosmos]

I've been doing projectile and spell reflrection since that 15% mdr is permanent until you parry a spell

reflection*

[drifting raptor]

vet instinct is giga bait

[pure trout]

spellreflection is placebo

thats so bad

[ebon cosmos]

It lets you parry spells

[pure trout]

run taunt

[hazy field]

nerf the frocking halberd already

[pure trout]

learn to parry it

[ebon cosmos]

You know how nice it feels to parry a sorc's frost root back at them?

[pure trout]

i love seeing a halberd as a longsword fighter

you get up in their ass

and then you hear the wood sound

just love it

[snow shuttle]

Longsword nerf?

[ebon cosmos]

Bardiche is better imo as a longsword user. It's slower so easier to react to, has a bigger hitbox for the parry, and it's 3rd attack in the combo is super easy

[pure trout]

attempt 18 spec knight wish me luck

[fallen solstice]

its one of the easiest things in the game to parry while using a longsword (unless ur on water map)
the issue is the halberd hits you first then the longsword half the time

[drifting raptor]

no it’s actually amazing on longsword

spell reflect allows your to chamber block and auto parry

if you know the technology

[drifting raptor]

u got this king

buff em up

[ebon cosmos]

I don't do it very often because I suck but occasionally I'll spell reflect parry a wizards fireball back at them. Feels good.

[pure trout]

he dead

[drifting raptor]

nice job

[pure trout]

its impossible

18 FKING TRIES NO SPEC FABRIC

[drifting raptor]

what’s impossible

i’ve got 38

[pure trout]

I got 15

I just want more :>

[drifting raptor]

i’ve got 67

[pure trout]

i gambled now i have 420

[drifting raptor]

nice now i have 1337

[ebon cosmos]

I've been playing this game since it first came out and I've never once soloed a boss. I really should learn. I just never saw the point since I usually die in pvp immediately so I'm basically just collecting gear for the gigasweat who finds me.

[pure trout]

I ascended and have bis fabric

cant beat that

[drifting raptor]

i have shedow+1

seethe

[pure trout]

I have viogur

[snow shuttle]

All the longsword fighters are Kinda h0rny for perrys

[drifting raptor]

i have osteoporosis

[pure trout]

and cander

bis viola + fulgor

new combo with dualwield on fighter trust

[ebon cosmos]

because it mitigates the hit, used to do good damage on riposte, throws out 2 fast follow up hits, and is stylish af

[drifting raptor]

parrys suck now so easy W

holding m1 does more then riposte

but people still fish for parries

it’s peak

[ebon cosmos]

I hope they fix the whole block recovery skip "issue" or whatever it is. I had to say issue because the real words are censored because SDF is in denial.

[drifting raptor]

block recovery skip?

action speed and impact power determine that

[ebon cosmos]

There's some issue with the game right now people have been abusing that lets you completely skip the recovery animation

[drifting raptor]

haven’t heard that and fighter chat tests a lot of stuff

is it the sheild mastery desync block ?