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Key doors and double boss doors, gem is considered a key.
Ohhh, ya I’m talking about HR. Crypts key room has been pretty contested, same with inferno. Always always someone coming in or already there, and being bard is always a losing battle.
I heard a rumor bard was getting changes next season is that confirmed?
Im pretty new to bard and love the class but it can be rough solo at times, especially in squire gear
Are pocket watches valuable
good ones r
Can you loot gold coin bags in pve from piles?
yes
make space in your inventory, look at the pile, press F, and get lucky
But how is it possible
gold coins drop in PVE too, and they're also unique. some items are exempt from the "Epic and below" loot rules
You can only find "Up To EpicRewards" rewards in PvE/Adventure. Gold coin bags have a Rarity of Unique
Oh
Is the best we can do for melee combat meta seriously just spam crouch, hold parry and wait for a riposte. make it a skill check that cant be held forever. the lock picks take more intelligence to do than the parries. Its so low skill and cringe
It's not
Play a different game if you don't wanna have a "Low skill" melee fight
not sure what game youre playing, but 9/10 fights i get into are just strafing around waiting for your opponent to swing while you hold parry
The fire ball kind
Haha.
used to play a game called blade symphony which had crazy high skill cap for swordfighting. im pretty sure the playerbase would absolutely hate the advanced fighting mechanics if we implemented even half of them, the differences between a casual and a sweat in melee games is huge
pretty sure even chivalry and mordhau like keeping it relatively simple
literally just something to prevent people from crouching in place and holding the block button with a weapon forever. doesn't need to be something crazy. it could simply just be a timer for like 1.5 seconds then return to a normal stance
Why should the game cater to that. There are many things you can do to counter that. For one use a weapon that has a poke attack and poke them.
and imo if you dont get a parry in that time you self stun like if you hit a wall or a shield. but thats just me
what?
thank God that you arent in charge lol
right the "just hit them in the legs" response. so while i attack the lowest dmg multipler area they get free swings at my face
You can still hit their chest
or their head
really easy with rapier or halberd.
bro just doesnt understand the combat and wants it changed
fax
damn I remember that game
its funny people kill you at boss but dont finish it or attempt to help
hellll yeah it was super fun. i was awful at it 🙂
What skills should I run on zwei barb
Dont
Missing parry is already pretty punishing. If they want to nerf it they could make it slower to parry or harder to fully parry especially with smaller weapons.
Too bad
I hope you piss the bed tonight
Anyone know where a mf can get some Sturdy Cloth? Google says End Wall or the Frozen Lake but I haven't found it at all despite doing multiple runs. Is it just a really low spawn chance?
Are ultimate gems used for anything anymore ?
NERF HALBERD
that frozen lake module on ice map has the highest density of potential spawns. all the shelves downstairs in the kobold hut can have one
crafting certain items
gold gear crafting and workshopping uniques
Barbican on ruins
If you check Barbican, there's a ladder in the left side tower that leads up to a hidden area, the Sturdy Cloth spawns next to the chest up there
fuckin ban this halberd
Does anyone know why 1920x1080 isn't a windowed fullscreen option?
rat druids on water map make me laugh lol
nah im shitting it tn
bro was sitting by boat extract with 0 loot with less than 2 mins in raid left
just camping extract
Oh damn I didnt even know there was a ladder. Huge, thanks
bruh i killed 3 people and 20 mobs and only got 170 AP get real bruh so bad
game is down?
genuinely this game's balancing team is a joke, halberd is left untouched this far into SSF and we wonder why this game bleeds players so early into wipe and it's because we have our heads up our ass fixing bugs nobody cares about
Why is my game crashing everytime I exit a dungeon or change class
The module on ice map with the kobold hut, dogs, power shrine with gems, and ice blocks that give way to a water area down below is the best place imo. Several possible spawns on the shelves in the kobold hut. Not uncommon to see 2 in a single run.
I just ran there and saw none so I think luck is not on my side lmao
oh well, when in doubt, go again
does the +3 axe damage perk for barb scale? or does it just add 3 weapon damage once the game calculates the scaling of ur attack
anyone else crashing every time they go down or exit?
did this amazing paul guy everyone is talking about quit? how is it possible they let halberd stay this broken for so long ?
Pretty sure its just a flat +3 damage with axe weapons
It scales
does barb have like 70% additional movespeed or how is it constantly able to rush anyone down especially after taking slow debuff or ice bolt, with a 2H out
Rage and savage roar
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/711471/bring-back-character-stat-page hey guys please upvote my suggestion if you agree with it of course! thanks guys
Is blood exchange still alright?
Camping mastery should include being able to craft campfires on the go if u can chop down wood
Stat page would be nice
anyone else crashing randomly all the sudden
Current stat page needs improvement
they had one and deleted it, numbers were wrong
basic number count is a big challenge
where can i find a sturdy cloth. PLEASE let me know
first layer of ruins has I believe 2 spots with it, I dont remember the name of it but if you look at tower bridge which is the middle and go to the right module at the top of bridge, theres one next to the gold chest there (its where the skeleton archer is where you have to jump to, theres a lever there on a wood pole.)
i do know that, wasnt there last time i checked
aw bogus the goblin finally did me dirty and i gambled 150g and got some common gloves
just a chance for it to spawn, sadly. its normally pretty common though.
module on edge with harpy and 2 archers up top, stairs down the middle
go to lower level and find table inside cave
the average p[layerbase has gotten so fucking good
u can find cloth on the north end of the captains ship too ontop
is this where the wolves are as well on the bottom
i dont even know how to explain to my friend how this chad with a buckler blocked all of his attacks genuinely what the fuck is going on
is blocking just easier now? or am i losing my mind
How tf do you piong gear in lobby to show party membersdd
I think yes there are wolves
I thought it was middle mouse but it is not working
man, can we have the Huntress actually sell something good. i got like 100 purple tokens bc she never has good stuff to spend it on
does luck affect woodcutting?
soo since when can water map spawn like 3 corroded keys
I will DM you.
luck affects everything that makes drops happen but I would not use potions for it just a luck gear set that you take into pve.
lost 2 coin bags just now because a halbert fighter 2 shotting me 🙂 im so glad this is still in the game
targetting woodcutting basicly garuntees you will get pushed out of 2nd floor loot pile
white lifeleaf good for anything?
best meta ever!!
Crafting Uncommon HP and Clarity potions.
so no
yeah the devs forcing spellcasters into melee pvp really helps us on that end.
Both of those potions are useful?

if they remove easy access potions it will make people upset if they leave them it makes people upset....
guess they got it right
Eh some people just want to be upset regardless of what's going on. I like being able to craft potions, and find them.
I hope someday we can make brew ale.

now that we have workshop, maybe we get a brew shop...
Add a reward for winning the squire rewards
Hopefully!
like a foustion coin or something?
Should I take buckler over lantern shield on bard?
Squire royal after winning you spawn in a room with a massive gold pile that is juiced
i mean the way pvp goes thru potions and wastes them lol nah leave potions easy access
💯
I would suggest buckler over lantern.
Whys that? Impact resist?
okey dokey i am done playing until halberds are nerfed this is too much
gimme the play by play
yeah sparkykawa was saying something about halberds being way op right now and other creators.
People have been complaining about it since last wipe. Probably means the game is pretty balanced. They nerfed barb a lot why not nerf halberd now too
40% pdr, 155 hp. I am hitting target dummies for 100 in the head and have 25% armor pen right.
I get charged by full plate halberd fighter
I pop prot pot right before fight
I hit him once, he hits me once (im at 60% hp)
i hit him in head he hits me misses
I hit him in arm he hits me (im at 20% hp)
I try to back and he hits me from 5 meters away
mind you the death cam he is at 50% and im in full slayer fighter build AND IM ON HIS FACE THE ENTIRE FIGHT UNTIL END
the dude is SLAPPING me with a fucking pole and doing more dmg than my morning star
yeah once you get in close to a halberd it is usless
nope, opposite
the handle is barely able to defend you
its actually just as good right up on someone as it is at range
am talking about real life
obviously if they made halberd realistic it would be useless
oh, yeah real life 100% haha. In this physics base combat the pole might as well be a chainsaw
goblin caves?
they need to hard nerf the damage is the main issue of close combat
for it
and only allow it to deal any real damage with a skillful hit
nah, ruins. Doesnt matter what map tho. My only deaths are to halberds Heavens forbid I want to play a non halberd build rn
which means poeple will only swing it a few times then switch to another weapon.
anyway, just had to vent. I will be back when markets open and patch drops as long as halberd is sent into the void
Just asking cause I just 3 shot someone with a halberd after they caught me off guard lmao
Thanks for the explination, see you later!
seems no matter what build youre running halberd is a 3 tapper its crazy lol
honestly they could just get away with making it deal a little bit lower damage than the quarterstaff in close range.
and it would be comfortable
explanation* See ya!
halberd dmg/sourspot nerf doesn't address the core problem that's frustrating people rn
a unique war maul with 7.3% action speed isnt as goated as im thinking right?
Its good if you build for it
what could it go for on market when it opens?
Next artifact?
IF they nerfed sour spot damage, and its impact resistance the weapon would be fine
They shouldnt touch its base damage
ikr it's so stupid
Parrying the halberd should reset its combo and punish someone for getting parried
Make it a high risk high reward weapon, yah if you get parried, which the first and last attack are very easy to do, you get your combo broken. Meaning that using it face to face youd have to go for limb shots most of the time, but if you get teh drop on someone with it, or catch a non melee user, you get the full headshot / bodyshot damage
Can someone paypal me 3 dollars for food please life sucks im really sorry 💔
It would still have a very viable space in the meta, without running it
Because lets be honest yall, even most timmies can parry the halberd
Prolly wont be worth a lot at teh start, but will go up in value in time. Genuinely, your better off lowballin on the trademarket andhope someone is doing a memeish build
I'd ask for a bag, a spec at most depending on how much they go for this wipe
If its anything like last wipe, you could maybe get a bag or at worst a gew pouches
Are they still planning on having housing for progression? have your own tavern where u hang up ur trophies over the seasons, adding a sense of permanence?
More importantly they need to make it so parrying it stops the combo
If I parry it with a weapon, they should get punished for it
what's SR?
Squire Royale
Some people still call it S2R
Squire royale is definitely more fitting now though, as I feel sometimes I spend more moeny then I make
But thats on me for not looting treasures in the mode ever
@warped spear ty
i'm just throwing away kits to dragon at this point
High roller
Can someone paypal me 3 dollars for food please life sucks im really sorry 💔
ah thank
stupid, stupid boss hits you with unavoidable abyss kill the second someone else jumps on the platform
Learn it on warlock TM build first, so you can see the whole move set
crazy
Then when you know its entire moveset, then try to melee
I can solo it without getting hit in squire, haven't killed it in hr in 10 attempts because the boss 180 leaps you when people are griefing you. Dog design, abyss mechanic should be removed entirely
Get in there and farm that gear so they can wipe it again!
I do hate the void around bosses
instead of always having to exit a particular merchants menu and click on one we want to go to. can we have a left and right slider press that gos in order of merchants so we can stay within the merchants trade/service menu ?
It just leads to frustrating moments, especially when the servers are dog, which is the start of most seasons
literally watching a rogue wait to 3rd party someone doing the boss
Do streamers just jump off dragon arena when someone else joins? These 180 leaps are genuinely insane
No typically you have to fight them. If they are purely griefing and not also trying to fight the boss while in arena, you have to chase them down
How do I report someone using aimbot?
How useful are shield artifacts
@glad thunder nerf halbard please love you bye screw warlock halberd i see every game 5 of them all cucking on overseer like chuds
@zinc sparrow mb sorryt @glad thunder
Impact Res and sourspot nerf is all it needs
yes bis
If halberd combo got reset on a block, itd be a very situational weapon
Only reason its so brutal is even blocking it does nothing unless your running a buckler, or perfect block
And getting close it still hits like a truck
and it does more than half my hp bar with 55% pdr
Do luck potions work on woodcutting?
If they can hit a headshot, without sour spotting and avoiding a block that would break their combo, they deserve the damage it would do
grantedi had like 150 hp but still
150 is good health
fuhh nahhh
it was a bit less
Im saying if they nerf impact res and sour spot
Because then if they get blocked, their combo gets broken, and if the sour spot does less damage that wont hit hard really at all
true dat
Hello, i am new to the game
"I'm playing Wizard and I've been told that to block with a sword or staff, I need to deselect my active spell using the middle mouse button (scroll wheel). Is there any way to rebind this key? I couldn't find it in the settings
I can consistently parry the halberd 1st and 3rd swing, but the fact they get to keep swinging is the issue
Make it a good weapon for ranged limb poking, or getting the drop on someone
yeah i agree
no
impact res nerf would be so nice cause i main longsword fighter
Just think its the nerf that makes the most sense. Makes it a more punishing weapon to use
that and i hate halberd and i want it to get removed from the game
not actaully im just pressed
Can someone paypal me 3 dollars for food please life sucks im really sorry 💔
Can you elaborate on this. Like if you block 1 hit. Doesnt it get reset, so they have to do the first hit again? Or at least, I felt like I always do. Or does it depend on what blocks the swing? Does it depend on the weapon?
Gonna go to the dollar tree or something?
Riposte it! Also id much rather remove pavise, so cringe and stupid to play against.
every time i play against someone with a brain they drag the first hit then stab me in my butt
We need a way to sort our stash easier. E.g auto sorting maybe with legendary status it could more customizable instead of automatic where you could set customize it more. hm would be cool
Lol
maybe im just bad at the game but idk
Good players with a halberd are tough. But good players with any weapon are tough lol
true true
Buff Halberd.
buff longsword?
wait why is it called frost wyverns claws if theres only one claw on the image
@zinc sparrow fix pls ok gn everyone
double longbow meta in water map is going to make me cry 
Gonna go to dollar tree or something?
Was gonna get ramen from the store man
How many troll pelts avg/day
Gonna need more than 3 bucks
It’s 2.75
Just curious why would you join this discord just to make that post?
You could probably get 5 to 10 a day if you're more casual but trying
Ahh literally joined yesterday
I mean im asking till someone says yes man
Yeah, but what brought you to this discord out of all of them? I'm only curious.
Can’t that be said if I joined literally any other discord
How'd you find this discord
Kai cenat
I mean yeah that's my question though. You joined this discord, just to ask for money for food, wouldn't it make more sense to go where help is given for things like that instead of a random discord for gaming?
What if you got a 9-5
Sorry I only send money to women
If you know the boss and can pvp. Even 1 a day would be solid and attainable.
Then you can make spec bags or sell the pelts
The only thing it needs is to get nerfed, the block is 
I mean longsword
Does boss loot drop in pve?
Most boss loot does.
Why is it Ranger can equip identically 0 daggers?
does anyone know the drop rate for broken glasses?
ive run two norms a pve and a high roller killing at least 5 imps each time and havent gotten it yet
5% 10% 20%
How do you get to the res shrine by blade hand?
underwater tunnel entrances on south-west and north-east sides (the bigger one island)
edit: my best paint attempt https://i.gyazo.com/6a94ba83fd35db38b9384b5464749e83.jpg
there is a oxygen bubbler at the T junction
You’re the goat thanks
There's about a 9% chance of missing the drop entirely after 5 kills each for 2x Norms, 1x PvE and 1x HR
that seems pretty unlucky lmao
Indeed. I almost feel bad because I have 3x broken glasses after less than 10 kills. Basically I stole your glasses. My bad.
I almost wrote that I expected your numbers might be exaggerated simply based on how few imps exist but either way, a bit unlucky
At least it's not like sub-1% type unlucky though. You'll get it soon!
yup not the worst thing ever tho. killed 60 cockatrice without any quest drops last wipe and that was a chore
started count after around 10 cause i thought it was getting a little absurd
I think i'm upto 1 in 250 for the feather right now. Its strait up bs.
like 6 eggs, 3 gas bags, 1 feather
wow
Gross
ive gotten super lucky with feather this wipe tho i got 2 feather and 1 egg in around 50
i lowkey thought feather was supposed to be 5% drop rate
feather: 2.5% 5% 10%
egg: 2.5% 5% 10%
gas bag: 2.5% 10% 20%
gas bag drops in norms and pve?
But I killed at least ~30 hr chickens only only ever got a gas bag. Rest was on pve mostly
dude the bird hates you haha
Anyone know how long until frostlight cloth is craftable
man the halberd is brainless
just block
Right they are very telegraphed
block the halberd on my wizard ranger rogue druid?
one of the most telegraphed weapons in the game
holy cope
Druid, just use mage
assuming you're a wizard main idk how you are getting in range lol
when the weapon gets nerfed you guys will feel silly
i dont use it personally, i use longsword and just parry it lol
Yea the Halberd is SO slow easily parryable. Even easier to deal with if ur a shield enjoyer
honestly i feel like halberd has great matchups against most weapons aside from longsword
@cursive wagon
And if ur playing wizard just spam frost bolts
frost bolts are easy to block with halberd
You are talking about bardiche?
This shyt is slow like a snail
Hope I get chosen to become a warden
thats an interesting take
That shield skin is neat
And the trolls in VC are annoying
But their tasty!
So true smh
They're
My barbs name is "xCrayonEaterx"
I see someone doesnt enjoy they're crayons
realistically halberd does a little too much damage rn
A little too much sure. If they hit you lol
Excuse me I enjoy refined colours such as nior
Ya think when every game atleast 4 ppl are using it?
the damage it does is balanced by how easy it is to counter
A plebian such as you would not comprehend
everyone is running halberd or longsword
Right yes thank you
I think that Zweihander needs its prenerf parry back
I'm running zweihander
cause longsword is a good matchup to halberd
Look at bardiche
It was su fun to run parry zwei but now its sooo slooooowwww
Hell no I remember using that pre nerf absolutely not
you are so right
It felt 140 damage on squire kit
Maeby not the damage but the speed
I use zweihander right now as a secondary and I agree it needs a buff
But the buff is not in the parry
It's swing speed needs a buff tbh
I don't use bc its bad right now
i love zwei but its super slow
Not bad, it's situational
i think a overall action speed buff to zwei would make it comp
but right now its overshadowed by halberd and longsword
Bardiche too
It should not have the same or slower swing speed as halberd which does NINE more damage
Bardiche is fine though?
It's ok
bardiche feels like a faster swing lower rang halberd lowkey
kinda nice but i prefer halberd
But hallberd is better in any way
Thats a big difference
Yeah, but Halberd doesnt benefit from any perks specifically.
Warlock
warlock doesnt have perks for polearms
halberd is so good it needs no perk for it to be meta
Just 3 shot barb
Bardiche is also an axe so if ya buff it imagine how insane its gonna with axe build barb
But yea zwei definitely needs a swing speed buff
Yeah its slow af
While we're at it also buff horseman's axe
i hope they dont nerf halberd and they just buff other weapons
Not buff bardiche..
NERF hallberd
Nah dude halberd 100% needs a nerf
Not to its damage or anything
i want every weapon to feel good to use instead of making the ones that feel good, feel worse
Why??? Then every fight lasts super short cuz every weapon is so strong
halberd o p
But it needs it's sour spot back
Viking sword is better
bardiche too
my halberd fights last a good amount of time
0.9% action speed btw
Point proven
20 move speed
horsemans axe is underrated but def i would say needs a buff
You sure that isnt a skill issue? Im not too good but ive managed to win multiple 1v2s and end fights with halberd in a few swings
im playing against and as pdr high hp so fights last longer
What class?
Warlock mainly
4-5 halberd headshots unless perfect spacing
Damn
bardiche does NOT need buffed big man
literally barbs best weapon
The most broken class in the game.
doubt its a skill issue but maybe
0.9 action speed btw
Say that to the fighters ive two or three tapped
Admittedly including BoC
I didn't say buff
I said nerf hallberd
are you building full damage and using boc or victory strike
did we get gaslit into paul having fixed the game? what is really better?.. balance-wise.. compared to 2 wipes ago. They just did way less changes and now the playernumbers are suspicously consistent. But the amount of bs builds, 1 shots and the overall balance seems worse. Low gear its 90% plate, halberd/LS, clerics... high gear everything one taps, has 4 uniques and fights are more random than ever(if skill/gear is equal).. They added a ton of convenience tho thats was great
cause i dont see how youve managed that
just killed a guy in a full gemmed blues kit in crypts
"i think a overall action speed BUFF to zwei would make it comp"
you replied, "bardiche too"
tf you mean bruh
@snow shuttle
wrong reply mb
Not building anything I just run squire. But yea I use BoC
lmao i was so confused
Mb didn't mean it
maybe ur just goated dude idk
W
paul's had ~5 patches, sdf had 2 years. i trust in paul's overall approach to balancing and he seems way more tapped in to what needs to be changed than the big man ever was
LOL Nah Halberd just deals too much damage.
i have noticed that it usually requires 3-4 hs with perfect spacing or 4-5 without decent spacing
but im almost always going against pdrs
4-5 halberd headshots is killing literally any class
you werent hitting headshots
yes
You can deff 2 tap atleast in 2 squire kits fighting
i raise you pdr bear
I tried to say that if you compare hallberd and bardiche, hallberd takes it in every thing.
Faster attack speed.
More Range.
More damage.
nah you're geeked
3 should be killing
on fighter maybe cant 2 tap but boc will in fact 2 tap most of the classes in s2r
if you hit two headshots and the person has 20 pdr like a cast than you'll 2 tap
but if they are pdr you are not two tapping
Idk what to tell you. Boc+Halberd headshot followed by another headshot kills almost everyone ive came across
ur not going against pdr people then brodie
for me its not about the names .. paul is just a name they threw around all the time, all of a sudden. I just look at IM and see that alot of people say "since paul took over DaD has improved" but did it really improve that much, beyond convenience? I really just see Ironmace not whatever name they give me.
The fullplate fighter and platelocks are what then?
Literally im not 😭
its more possible with boc but still
Platelocks are going crazy
that's fair, i think i've just been dealing w ironmace for so long that any break from the sdf balance philosophy is a good one
its at the very least 3 for pdr players
Theres a lot of us ngl
Im not playing warlock
im not denying that halberd is strong btw, just that i want other weapons buffed to compete with it
Referring to myself as a platelock
its so much more fun when every weapon feels strong
I would prefer fights last a little longer than shorter
hm
maybe my issue is with action speed rather than damage
i think slower action speed fights feel clunky and bad
It's all balance
Yea high action speed feels nice
Warlocks nerf 
Please don't 3 shot barb
melee lock is a bit strong rn
That would hit high speed weapons more
yeah
I cant balance mb
No but like -5% wouldent be that bad but it'd help make fights last a lil longer
hm
i just dont experience the two tapping thing even when im running boc with two perfect hs
u play geared?
Idk then
2 tapping is only for low pdr
yeah that i can agree on
but this guy is saying he can two tap everyone bruh
im still so lost by that statement
Istg ive managed to 2 tap ppl in full plate multiple times
There is no big change in philosophy expect doing less if you ask me. Look at WW and Disarm and then the contradiction of saying "testing phase is over" and then right after "we gonna release a bunch of broken tech for Ranger and Rogue and see what happens" thats sdf to me. Or at least they told us that it was sdf in the past. They have learned a few things, and slowed down the pace of crazy patches(which is good).. but RAW balance. if you look at pre move speed change DaD and post. Im thinking we havent progressed much, just the PR has drastically improved and alot of non balance related things. Next patch might change my opinion.
Prob wasn't full health
im down for a damage nerf to halberd if they buff its swing speed
Rogue is not broken
Nono
Only nerf
what else would you want from a class overhaul patch, though? if anything i'd prefer the classes release with some insanely broken or gamechanging skills/perks that they can slowly walk back as the season progresses. the same can be said for disarm which while absolutely nasty for a while was fixed in relatively fast time (at least for IM)
Its as broken as it was before the wipe.. and Ranger is giga busted, just a matter of gear.. They one thing I will give Ironmace full credit for is seeing our reaction to the shadow step crossbow clip and changing it b4 wipe thats respectable
Rouge needed a buff
what do you think is giga busted with ranger rn?
overdraw shotgun is strong but thats all ive noticed
Ranger is for pssys
Just shoot and run
So when they said "overhaul" people thought change, and not adding problems on top of problems. Rogue problem was getting on chanceless enemies undetected with no counterplay w hide, Ironmace introduced a new way to do exactly that. Ranger problems are onetaps/2taps/ranged burst dmg. and they add more of it.
It's just another way to play the class
ranger is so fun dude
Shoot and run..
yeah but
have u ever experienced hitting a headshot and watching a guy crumple
instant dopamine
If the game was the same for every class let's say:
When i play Rouge I play double jump without any teleport or invis
It's good to have a slayer fighter and a plate fighter
Bc if everyone played the same thing it will be boring
That's the good part about the DaD, you can play what you like however you like.
With what perks you like and what build you like.
yeah sure I agree, I mean build variety is great... the more the better as long as it doesnt break the game 💪 🤔
Why has it brake the game?
The teleport is not that broken
You get an indicator before he teleports
Brakes are important to reduce a vehicle at a very high speed. I dont know how it relates to Dark and Darker, there might be a language issue here xD
Sayings tend to translate poorly
I can see why you say that ranger is broken
Mb
Broken*
Whats a chest worth we thinking
I dont think the game is broken... just not better than 5-6 months ago with the balance of the classes
I think they need to nerf warlock and fighter
I believe its 400k?
What’s wrong with fighter rn?
Then nerf longsword not fighter basekit
That’s not an issue atleast imo. I agree that the heal is a little strong too though
Mostly fighter
Action speed ability
Hallberd nerf probably
In general
yeah halberd/LS and plate is my biggest problem its all you see in squire games.. I just think the "rework" for ranger and rogue should have been different.
Adrenaline Surge???????????? how is that op?
is there any chance we get a updated wiki?
do it
It's not op
It's just too good
go update the wiki
Unless you make it yourself, nah
I dont think so. Well whatever
I want a new class to the game
Illrigger or Monk or like Artificier
Illrigger would go crazy hard
Buut then we'd need to rework warlock a bit
Thats halberd not Warlock
It's gonna be a while they said
- life still
Yeah...
Monk is next in line with I assume paladin or artificer, but before that subclassing or something will come out
IF we ever get Artificier im holding out hopes for Illrigger too
Just put life still on every thing
It was mentioned once in qna
?
Life steal*
Ah
Mb
Yes because 2/51 damage lifesteal is so insanely broken
3.5e edition classes
It's not that
Some of these will be subclasses
cancer mage 🗣️ 🔥
Commander would go crazy hard too ngl
Like now we have paladin from temu
Summoner would be fun but either so bad no one plays it or so broken no one wants to play anything els
It's gonna be subclass that can spawn current existing mobs as his spells
how do i report blatant teamers in HR if they didn't kill me but were a team of 3 helping each other
Like golems tree hydra etc
Do you have nicknames?
Imagine running in to a room and just. Walking in on a summoner making a literal army of like bats or skeletons
Id go crazy to get that
Would be funny as fuck until he commands em to attack and you just cant do anything but run
yes i reported the one i killed and i have the other two nicknames
Multiclassing gave that subclassing vibes and as much as it was unbalanced it was super fun
I can imagine Rapier Mastery+Sword Mastery go brrrr
You just have to wait now
It used to be a thing with slayer
but i can't report the other two as they fled as a team and did not kill me. will they review the first guy and see the other two?
Slayer, Rapier, Sword and dualwield
Thats what. 9 extra damage and 20% action speed?
Throw a dagger as offhand for the rapier and wouldyalook at that now you have 8% arnor pen too
Probably yes
thx
I've played rondel dagger ball wiz with ignite smite and slayer perk
Thats crazy work
Also stacking magic damage and insta casting earthquake on wiz was something else
lmfao
Barb with survival bow common sight, rogue with slayer etc etc
Back then victory strike was ass
Smack that with executioner axe mastery two hander aaand idk what else and u one shotting stuff
Oh?
is arena gear needed to be found or can i bring in anything i find
And mages used phantomize + that druid perk, perma invincibility
Hide ontop of that
Landmine barbarian would go crazy
Smite + reckless and it was over
Back then they could use white pots before they put 15 knowledge requirement on it

Ah.
That requirement got introduced for THAT specific reason
Another funny idea could be weapon mastery and warlock plate perk rogue
Disguise Self as a fighter lmao
There was funny interaction that made slayer be able to take plate armor if you had also demon armor from warlock
please tell me you found a fix for this bro im going insane
Smite on bows was something else
Basically fire arrows now act as ranged smite
I would like to get multiclassing event back with current classes
Absolute chaos
Barb turning into bear or some shit
last time multiclassing was out i ran a brewmaster bear barb and 1 tapped a 250hp demon lock
Was there druid back then?
yeah last time multiclassing happened it was
When multi classing was first out I was having a blast with poison archer
When was it
very quickly formed a meta of rogues stacking agi and going panther form
i think end of wipe event for season 4 or 5
Druid was already there? Jeeez time flies
Ngl it pissed me off so much when they released multiclassing in season 2 and everyone complained it out of the game entirely instead of it just being a game mode
I quit the game for multiple seasons after that
Also
@blissful stirrup dorohedoro pfp, bro knows peak
hopefully one day this game will have a playerbase large enough to sustain more new gamemodes
Back then squire Royale and pve didn't exist lol
There was more than enough room for another game mode
Yeah I'd take it in a heartbeat, but they would need to redesign skills tab or something
Do not speak the dark arts to me
Gear score was annoying as hell ngl
People minmaxxed the absolute living hell out of it
yea it was
I took legendary lute into 0-24 with reinforced instruments perk
Smashing those heads
Drums also helped
Back in the days when copperlight was actually a thing...
Are the servers down? I can't log in
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/711471/bring-back-character-stat-page hey guys please upvote my suggestion if you agree with it of course! thanks guys
you are a cute little naive potato for a brain
yk what would be lit, if i didnt die to some asian dude every time i bring a kit in that has 2000000000ping and skips around the map like a fucking sorc using dash as a fighter or boc warlock maybe make it so we cant cross play like dying to dudes named xinxao is out of pocket af
dont miss a single block,strike,dodge, and they have insane ping this shit unplayable and all they do is farm bosses so theres no chance of doing a boss and surviving unless ur party and 99% of us arent mf party so please fix dis shit
i wanna go against at least mfs that at least have good ping
When will they release the new quest?
i think like 13 hours
I'm not sure
@dry knoll beware this guys scamming on steam asking to purchase game skins. Just scammed me for my Rust items
I just realized there's filter settings to show stuff being worked on, considered etc. it's like 68 already coming features, one of those being spell scrolls
Some of these are already there
I thought they forgot about this site
Why so harsh
nice grammar
yooooo can we patch and ban the people abusing the rogue double jump bug, thank you
whats the rogue dj bug
whats it do
are there loot tables for mobs anywhere?
I had the game on Epic Games, is it possible to get it back?
Lol howd he scam you? What skins is he trying to buy?
not accurate ones, what item/s are you looking for?
captains key from great white
Oh, I don't know the drop rate for that.
where is the north doors for Death Altar? Team was in a pinch and we couldn't find them
Nerf Druid
Nerf halberd?
Druid
Druid is on weaker side currently
I'd say druid players are crazy not druid itself, that class takes dedication
all the shitty druid players are now shitty halberd fighters or rangers
Until next big thing
im reporting you to a volunteer discord moderator. get mogged
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/711471/bring-back-character-stat-page hey guys please upvote my suggestion if you agree with it of course! thanks guys
And people tell me I’m rambling when I say the servers have only gotten worse lol
This is why you get hit through shields, why repostes are so inconsistent, how tf do you get over 200 ms when only 4 people are in a lobby
Jfc ironmace
Hand crossbow buff?
Can someone paypal me 3 dollars for food please life sucks im really sorry 💔
get a job lol
I'll be real. They need to drop artifact drop rates on less played servers, cause from what i've seen lately market is gonna crash already when it comes up.
Secondly. Bag rates need to be lowered for Blue Maelstrom. And druid removed from there or something.
Aaand finally fix colossus pile. I've witnessed 65 full piles being hit with 0 bags dropping. Sooo assumption is that it's bugged.
You think IM cares lol?
Anyone aware of artifact drop rates on spectral/banshee middle pile?
I've ran into so many more cheaters this wipe then any other
Everytime I kill a bissed out player, go hide in some dark corner and wait for the extracts to come up, someone from another region comes up and immediately starts attacking me, has happened 3 times this wipe
So not only am I losing performance because of this change, but Im encountering MORE cheats
Lots of common hiding spots people check. Where are you generally hiding? Experienced players also check dark corners on rooms they pass through.
I’ve personally encountered 0 cheaters
is arena SSF this season?
I am an experienced player, I know where people check, and no, its chinese characters running right into me after I get someone in full uniques
Im hiding in random dark corners, in rooms where mobs are still alive, with no pots on.
It never is
Gotcha. Weird then. Surprised with the way this new anti cheat works but then again I don’t know how developed cheats are for the game by said cheaters.
Cheats were available day one this wipe, since they were prepared for these changes because IM decided announcing them beforehand was smart
Genuinely the only issue I've had with this season is the anti cheat change, and its because its hardly done anythign to stop cheating, and its stopped a ton of players from playing HR. Glad they did finally fix it for linux at least
Cheaters significantly easier to ban tho right?
I doubt it, just because they have kernel settings on, they have to actually still have a good AC, which they dont
They still primarily rely on player reports with video
1/500 I think. Can check.
Yeah let me know please. Have a chart but seems inaccurate.
The chart says 0,10% right?
I believe so. Can send you it
Im hiding in random dark corners, in rooms where mobs are still alive, with no pots on.
I think it's the same chart. But the thing is that the rate for that pile was 0,10% before buff. So did it never just get buffed or is it really 0,20% I am uncertain.
Ironmace should publish rates for everything instead of leaving it to dataminers.
Gotcha. I would agree. Makes it hard to know what to chase after
I mean doesn't really matter. The game market will break once again.
People on the Asia servers apparently don't get constested for Overseer with a 9% drop rate for artifacts... So viola, Kuma's, and Bt price will all be super low as they become common thx to these farmers.
Also bags will not have any value cause of people playing Luck kits on druid in watermap. It's near impossible to die, they farm bags, chests and then those prices go down.
It's all just cooked.
Yeah… what will be the most expensive thing on market you think?
I was personally thinking wyvern artifact drops maybe or tears once again
Is it that easy to get bags?
Gold storage being more accessible is a good thing. I agree that the rates for other maps should be fixed though
Ask my druid friends who have 20 in just a few days of CASUAL farming. hardcore farmers are making it worse.
Sorry mb. Not friends. I can't call them that anymore.
Disgusting.
Any pile with luck should work then right?
Ahahah
I found one so far playing normally
It should. Watermap is just so easily accessible. and still has plenty of druid rat spots...
Never played water map, might go check it out
I found 9 playing normally. But that meant I had to risk myself playing ruins. They do it with barely any risk.
I should have been quiet. Actually. Nah. I wanna see everything break. I want so many people to farm bags that theyre less than 1k gold :)))
Heck yeah I’ll buy them up as well lol
I just want to get 1 or 2 so i have more space in stasb
Im kinda new
Containers should not be able to drop from random watermap piles. Nope.
I mean. Tbh you don't need bags or even chests anymore imo. I don't play druid or sorc so I just use them for pouches cause theyre so op now 💀
I just miss when this game actually felt hardcore.
I don't see the point in making gold storage grindy or rare. Chest is one thing but coin bags? Meh. I suppose some people would be upset about troll pelt getting devalued
You shouldn't be able to get wealthy without putting yourself and your own goods in risk.
Fully agree. Bags I’m a little more lenient on but chests should be very risky to attain and obviously artifacts
I think it should just be for watermap. Just cause you can go in squire and just hit piles for free (assuming other people dont contest you)
Ye I suppose. The map needs some attractiveness tho. Tidestone and the quest items only go so far
They could even make watermap exclusive gold containers.
What like a gold coin plastic bag
Like a torn gold coin bag and a wrecked chest. Maybe similar rarity as to now, but a bit worse in storage.
That’s a better idea my bad
2k for bags and 17,5k to chests. idk.
I mean you can get wealthy easily but its hard to manage a lot of gold with only shitty bags
Still would make them good but have bags and regular chests keep value
I could hold 300k+ last season liquid without gold coin bags or chests.
So.......
How many stashes ?
Does anyone else keep crashing after every single extraction/death when u go back to lobby?
Full druid & Sorc stashes of purses cause I don't play those two. I also had like 2 rows of untradable gold coin pouches.
My buddy does almost every single time
Blacksmith? Steam? Gamemode?
But thats just kinda aids no?
for me without the almost part. what could it possibly be. a low percentage of people have this issue. but i play on Steam
Steam. HR
for me ? i can do normals- pve- squire to riches too. i tried it all
everything 100% kick after game ends
He should verify gamefiles on steam. If that doesn't work he could go the extra mile and re-do the security things they added for Hr. Could be that the game is reading things incorrectly
Blacksmith or steam?
i contacted iromace about it . they said update ur drivers and thats all, i verified files 10 times. redownload game 3 times. i played on my FRIENDS PC and friends internet with My steam logged in. same issue persists. makes it way more interesting
It wasn't that bad. I otherwise had an empty shared stash all the time basically so moving things just took a few seconds or minutes depending what I was doing. Sure you could get a chest aswell, have it in a shared stash. When you need money, buy a few trolls bloods with the money in your purses, sell, and claim to be put in the chest. You lose a few hundred gold from the trade expenses but its still fine.
summary of the issue- No fix. no help. no answers
Oh.. Huh... Yeah the devs are... Quite unhelpful.
Can you dm me real quick? I wanna ask a few things to see if I can help
ty for tryin lets go
what is s2r
Hi 
A little question about mining, does Luck have any impact on it ? or the amount of time we can mine an Ore spot is random ?
Squire to Royal, who was Squire to richess before ^^
❤️
Squire royal, no blues until the final circle in Inferno. Juiced loot
You need to be very unlucky for this x)
Can someone paypal me 3 dollars for food please life sucks im really sorry 💔
+3 red stones
only game mode impacts it, its almost always 1 and very rarely 2 on pve and its 3-6 for PvP modes
Start an onlygents page
I'm aware of the %chance of ore spawn and for example Iron who can become Copper and that the %chance of each depend of the game mode.
But, the other part you mention sound weird for me.
For example, you must know the single RubySilver in Adventure mode in Square A module (with the Golem below).
This Spawn as always be a single ore, never more.
But there is iron too just next to it, and even in Adventure, I often have around 5 to 6 on a single iron spawn at this place.
When in goblin cave for example it's always 1 spawn = 1 ore, no more.
I try with and without luck, and for this iron spawn in ruin - Square A, it's always the same.
So maybe this one is bugged or intended to be special ?
That why I was looking for more info, in case I miss something ^^
Or maybe it's just because it's Iron and nobody care of it...
I'll go with this, its so common, it doesn't make much sense to make it uncommon
Can someone paypal me 3 dollars for food please life sucks im really sorry 💔
it's like i trying to do quest for player damage, but it's like 50 times spider bargain xd
dude, stop
does life drain still scale with magic power?
Day 4 of permaban from getting a refund on a second purchase of legendary with no reply from email or discord bug report
accidently bought legendary status again
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Day 4 of permaban from getting a refund on a second purchase of legendary with no reply from email or discord bug report
accidently bought legendary status again
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I accidentally bought the legendary status a second time when I was buying the seasonal and requested a refund. Now I have a ban? The game kept telling me you have 2 hours to appeal but I am a taxi driver and leave often so I was not able to cancel that way.
I'm not sure that posting this "here" is the best idea...
Even less by posting it twice
You just put some oil on a fire that need to be patient, 4 days isn't so much
hey guys as a dark and darker enthusiast i have always wanted to brainwash my friends into playing it but everytime they kinda feel overwhelmed and i am not the most experienced myself so when i just give them ton of info they want to stop playing, how can i be the perfect guide to a friend that installed the game for the first time, what class should i make them play how should we go about playing and what class should i be to support them perfectly
There is no respond from Tech support, anything etc.. Im mad about it too.. as Rogue I hvae to refill consumables while running and stuff and ONLY Fix rn is restart whole game or jump straight to next layer of map...
I tried absolutely everything, nothing helped.
You have to fix your own problems - IM's support arent professionals and take days if not weeks to reply the answer a 6 y.o would give you.
I am trying to get some notice on it so that the community know so Iron mace will have to look into it faster
Publicity can do some thing no one wants to look like a fool
I can't unban myself
I would try to avoid overloading them with info and meta tactics etc. Otherwise maybe some PvE and bossing could be a decent introduction. If they're pvpers then maybe play some norms and that way they can learn the game without just constant chaos from SR. But this game just ain't for everyone at the end of the day
that sucks man hope they fix it for you
yeah they do like pvp prob thinking about just making them play pve till they are lvl 15 and then just try to be a pocket archer or something for them
Maybe a cleric with requiem would be clutch for them
SR is fun and a decent way to learn no doubt, but I can't imagine the success rate being very inspiring lol
never played a cleric but i am down to try i will try to ask someone in cleric discord channel for a introduction
I always recommend people play fighter first. They get plate armor and second wind so that helps create a big safety net for mistakes while learning, while also having access to strong weapons both melee and ranged. It's a very forgiving class.
You should expect to spend the first probably 50 hours just watching them die to mobs constantly and babysitting them as you lead them around the map. Show them videos on YT that outline how to fight mobs and not get hit. I recommend trying to stick to just one map while learning. Ruins is a great one for that imo.
Get them white gear in their squire and then take them into squire royale when they are ready to try to learn pvp. Once they are kind of comfortable with pvp and mobs, you can run normals. But be warned people run blue bis kits there so the pvp is gonna be really hard for them.
You could always tell them about the Knight program also, and have them submit a ticket there to learn. You can even join in with them and the Knight during the session as well.
yeah seems like a fun mode tho still once they get the basic down
It's pretty straightforward. The only unfortunate part is that you can't bring rez with just squire gear unless you make another spell your 5th priority. So you gotta look for memory/knowledge gear right away
PvE
yeah i was thinking of making them go fighter, tyvm i will consider everything
Cleric/fighter/wiz or cleric/fighter/ranger are classic beginner comps

oof judging that i will play with a guy that just installed it would be painfull to get the knowledge pieces over and over again cause i have no doubt we will get annahilated
you can't, they'll either love the game and will play it, or they'll bounce and you won't make them come back, been there, done that, different approaches with different people, I've got 20 hours out of one, everyone else bounced early
It's better to throw him into PvE and tell him to attack dodge attack dodge mobs, he'll learn eventually in his own pace
Well you can just make sanctuary your 5th priority and then you should have enough kno for rez (with common squire gear) but I feel ya
ngl i have also experienced that but i just got one to agree to download and i have to give it my best shot
aight ty
Just let him play and try to help if he struggles, it's not the game for everyone, my friends do pve mostly and quest for relax
wellm you can discover game only once, so play as rez cleric, let them play around and answer questions as they come, don't do info bombs
This
Ho really?
It's fuckin obvious that you came here like a drama queen to force them to act quicker because they "will be affraid" of what peoples thinks... but just for info, they don't care of this, and the IM peoples here aren't the one you looking for to fix this issue on top of this.
2nd , Iron Mace is in Korea, not the same time zone, so they will not answer back to back like you would expect.
3rd, doing stuff like you do, coming here to post this at the face of everyone, with 2 different account for... wtf I don't care reasons, just to catch more light isn't a great move.
You are one of this people who think of them self that they are the Main character of the story on earth and others are just NPC to serve them.
You act like a kid just because you did a misstake, TWICE! on top of that, and didn't take 60s to think before acting
IM peoples aren't your personal slave, they have tones of stuff to do, and they maybe have only 1 guy who manage case like yours, and your not ALONE.
So just wait, stay polite in your mail and next time be more cautious before buying, or just use your brain maybe.
Who the fuck buy by mystake a premium account twice anyway ? lol
4 days of no gaming on this game will kill you? wait 4 more then.
Spiffer mommy
yeah i will, the thing is me and 1 friend discovered this game and immedietely loved it so kinda hoping to drag 3rd one into the dark side aswell
yeah i think that was my biggest mistake with other ones that i immedietely told them different strategies they could go with what perks to choose etc amma just let them cook
Try to introduce things gradually, maybe show him classes he's not playing by playing them yourself
i understand that its annoying to fall in love with a game if its starting to feel like school
yeah i will ty
I personally dont like tutoring I'd take only advice when I ask so I assume they want it the same way
won't work, if the combat and looting won't land on them, no argument will change it
make sure new players don't squire until 15, other than that u need to let him swim or else it wont feel authentic just dont let him drown
That's right, it's to just show them content
no, he come here and want to start fire and drama to force someone at IM to give him favor and give him priority, it's not a genuine act, I don't caution this
take ur meds
yeah i understand that the reason i am confident thought is we play lot of games that ussually involve pvp/grinding/teamwork
@zenith plank not sure why it bothers you so much, sometimes companies can be awkward, having a loud voice gets the problem resolved
I have a friend I played for 20 years with, always same games, same taste, very little deviation, I don't play with him anymore since I introduced him to DaD and he got butthurt over how much he sucked and projected it on the game 
damn dark and darker destroys dreams, aspirations and friendships too apparently
well, he did become an insufferable diva since I got a kid 
From my experience, because I'm a little like you and tend to give too much info, this is some tips who could help.
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first, don't plan anything special, for the 1st time at least, just let him free to explore where he is interested to go, or ask him what he prefer to do to lead him in this direction.
Do they prefer Boss fight ? then lead them to an elite 1st.
They want PvP ? let's do Squire Royal who is fast pvp -
Try to ask him question to lead him to a class who suit what he like.
Melee or distance ? magic ? big Weapons ?
Imo Warlock, bard, maybe sorcerer too and rogue should be avoid, because they have some special things that need some knowledge about the game and some time to be well understand, they are less "instant fun" like a warrior, a hunt or a wizzard.
And why Rogue? because he is squichy, his weapons aren't so "fun" when you start, short range, it's not really a dual wielder fighter like the warrior could be (It's a trap I fall in personaly ^^), or if he really want to go rogue, try to make him play Rapier or Short sword, far easier to start with rogue than dagger, or at least the Kriss maybe. -
someone said to play cleric with him, very good idea, I think Bard could be too, with the heal when you seat, or Druid.
Newplayers take lot of damage in general, I recommand you to explain him at least how the healing, and Max HP heal are working, but don't anoy him with phys or Magic Healing ^^'
Yeah, but not like this, there was other stuff he could do before going that far, as simple as making a ticket, or just "wait" because they didn't answer back to back... 4 days..."4", anyone know that 4 days in nothing concerning administration, Support and stuff like this.
yeah those classes are deffinetely too complex and require more specific skills than others. i will try to introduce him to 1 map and then make him pve untill he reaches lvl 15 and then take him on the squire royale gaming, he is really eager to try to pvp, tyvm for the tips!
God bro I hate the dipsticks who jsut run people down in SR, like at least loot a little bit of your first module
My friend started playing as druid first, Id say it's more about their fantasy, like what class do they feel like playing rather than what's best for them
There's 2 slots for new accs so they can try fighter + their own chosen class or something like that
maybe start with goblin cave, poison can be tedious, but from my memories, this map is generaly not has punishing as ruin, where some mobs can hit very hard, there is less Elite too
yeah i wont try to force fighter on them but i will try to nudge them away from the more extremely complicated classes but if they still choose them i wont say no i think he can handle it and if anything they will prob switch to fighters themselves, or just block me but gamble is a gamble
I thought diva applies to girls, that's rough diss on him 
Diva is unisex
Let them know it's hard class
yep
not gonna lie i wanted to kinda avoid it since the size is smaller than ruins and lot of begineer quest stuff is in the ruins i think
@toxic notch Ho, an other thing!
To avoid cover him with tones of infos, let him come to you and ask question, it work better than giving all answer and infos, details before he even need to know them, many things can be done without knowing the very details.
hey guys, when parrying the stingray (with rapier) is anyone noticing that some attacks you can't parry the same way as before this season? or am i crazy?
I could be wrong, maybe it's because in a previous season the goblin cave was Adventure or something like this, I'm not sure of my memories about this, so I could be biasis.
all the weapon parries were updated this season to be a little less forgiving and closer to the actual model**
+1 to this
yeah i will try to do that, when i first began playing the game i had no tutors other than some yt guides, so i just did very whacky strategies and build that werent practical in the slightest but getting even a single kill with them was so much fun, so i will try to replicate the same for them
Discovery is part of the process
thanks man just noticing it now really, very annoying hahaha
Don't forget that in PvE you can't hurt your mate, so he can practice on you for training parry, block, or just moveset ^^
That's good advice in general
oh yeah didnt even think about that i will do that! i kinda forgot what build i should make him go if i make him go fighter, longsword or shield and sword. i am assuming shield and sword since it probably is much more simple to understand compared to darth vader gaming
Halberd 
and if he play a caster, an important point is to tell him about the ability to push Middle Mouse in Spell selection to be able to parry for most class, and even attack for the sorcerer.
This feature is important to know I think
Do we know roughly what the loyalty requirements are for better faustians?
If he wants to play pvp but it'd probably later on
There chart for that in the channel I think
oh yeah since the range is descent i could try to make them use it, but i think arming sword shield would still be the best for them
Disagree with this tbh, use the best weapon for a noob
even in PvE it a good things to know this imo because if your not a Sorc, you could have no more spell to use, and if you use the Crystal sword...
Pinned?
wow holy i didnt even know that middle mouse even did anything
They recently added that
and what is that weapon in ur opinion?
Arming is like base weapon
Halberd lol
Its ludicrously strong atm
For how long that's the question
hmm alright i will tell them that
And its mid af
Depends on how IM nerfs it, if its just a damage nerf, a while, if its an impact res and sour spot nerf, then yah its a doomed weapon, but then just use bardiche
Just sour spot nerf would be good enough not to kill it but remain usable I think
Nah it needs to get its combo cancelled when it gets parried
@toxic notch about weapons, let him go on feeling, even if the weapons isn't "meta" etc.
But don't bother him to much with stats yet, make things simple for the build.
- Strengh = physical damage and some HP
- Virgor = more HP
- Agility = move speed (but not that interesting for now)
- Dex = attack speed and interaction (chest, door)
- will = magic damage (eventually + interaction with magic stuff, but I would avoid this part)
- Knowledge = cast speed and more spell memory
- Ressourfullness = CD but low value, and interaction on many little things.
At least I would explain it like this for a friend I play with and new to the game.
If they nerf sour spot that means sour spot parry also does less dmg
yeah i was just about to say i feel like if he takes a liking to a weapon that isnt commonly used i wont tell them to not use it, i am pretty sure some weapons are better than others but i dont think choosing a slightly worse weapon is better than forcing him to play meta ones
His first minutes are the most important let him cook
It could be a good idea but he will less see the differences between good and bad weapons then.
It's more easy (At least for me) to see what I earn when swaping for a better weapons, that downgrading it.
And latter it would be important to know, at least a little, what your opponent could do with his weapon
If you insist on giving him a sword, at least make him equip a lantern shield
So he can start learning about parries
yeah ngl i have seen a lot of moments in games where begineers will do smth so ridicilous it works out better than what the more experienced one couldhv done and its always that types of moments that gets u engaged
Isn't lantern shield quite hard to parry on? Especially for beginner it's quite unforgiving
some are better than other, it's sure, but the mastery of a weapon isn't useless.
I know rogue who doesn't play dagger, nor Rapier, but Shortsword, and who destroy everyone in PvP
There is a little "surprise" effect too of playing a non-meta weapon, but this is for end game etc, it's not really the subject with your friend for now ^^
I never thought so, its very very easy to block since it has a big hitbox, and the riposte isnt that hard to land
I'd say longsword is best practice on parries, but he doesnt know that shield doesn't block his whole body so I would start with that, let him hold heater later on and hit him in the toes or head
Timing is brutal
@ironmace auto sort when?
That, highlighting specific things, and naming stashes pls
It's listed as being done, it's on their suggestions page
yeah starting with Block with a shield and then learn parry seems to be the good way to learn
is being able to drag swap items on there too?
The lantern shield can just be used to block, and then experiment with parrying with it
Like hot swap?
And ive found the timing to be very very forgiving
That's one way to put it
you tag the wrong one twice ^^'
yeah like dragging a green gem over a red gem so they swap places in ur stash
Oh that, it's probably more complicated than we think, I can't think of how many times they mentioned how large and spaghetti coded their inventory code is
It's long way
Does anyone know which quest do you need to complete in order for spectral coinbag to unlock?
DNDtracker should have it
take a look at DND tracker
so were cooked
yeah for sure, imo playing meme weapons and strategies are something begineer players and experience players respect
Sorting features are coming for sure
They are most important
I remember liking quarterstaff when I started out, I like it to this day
It was really bad back in the day tho
everything will come, they was just so fuckin stuck with all the court things that they wasn't able to completly focus on the Game (and yeah, SDF wasn't helping too, but it's over)
they nerfed it for this season 😢
Its finally time it feels like the game is not going backwards
yep
Because it was broken on barb
Barb was the issue
And nerfed weapon
yeah i remember dropping a quarterstaff too uncommon or rare and i still was a fresh install and i remember falling in love with it
Bruh
they just have to not let him use it xD
How do I know which quest unlocks what?
Knowledge requirement like white pot 
I used to think the quarterstaff was the most useless weapon in the game, but when they made it able to parry it is now a top 3 weapon for me
Sorry but I will not avoid you the time needed to understand how it works, just read, take your time, it's very easy to understand
I was begging them to make qstaff parry it's such fitting weapon for that mechanic
nothing you can't understand
you must feel like a chad
Guys, im coming back recently to the game with 2 friends, they play druid and rogue, what could be strong to play with those 2 you think ?
no, I just don't have the time, sorry
Is Arena going to be epic gear Solo Self Found or can I use gear I got from Huntress?
lol
They changed merchants so it can be different now but maybe there's same one listed for it
Try Ctrl+ f and search spectral
Can you play as the harpies?
The druid play support, melee, or hybrid ?
cool moderation guys. how was i supposed to know lining up harpies and bending them over an alter to stare at them for the rest of the match "a concerningly high number of times" is a bannable offense
Probably hybrid or panther (idk if its playable)
Damn
everything is playable, it's just a question of mastery and teamwork
I'm very sure they are coming like playable mobs in 2nd layer of gobbos
I can see like which quests need spectral fabric but not which quest gives the recipe to craft it
I played a lot of bard , wiz and cleric, what u think suits the best
I'd try to find it once I'm back home, like 20 min
Thats very versatile combo, I know because I've played same characters a bunch
@Linnows Bard could be nice, but you will need to harass a lot with bow, the team would have 0 ranged solution or so, the Rogue can help a little with knife but it's not infinite, and using the shadow step need a good timing with mate to not be a instant death.
Hunt would be nice, but I think Wiz could be the best
Wiz is king of trios
I'm not a pro ok, it's just supposition, idea
I saw all the Arena tournament, and Wiz supp/damage was very strong for any team, buff your mate with haste and invisibility, harass with fireball, frost arrow, zap (buffed :p)
something like this
Magic missile too
The spec fabric isn’t a craft it’s a boss drop
Haste ignite is so underrated
He meant bag
ye i meant bag
I forgot Ignite... 
Gotcha
I love joining a team as a faustian
Ignite on the Rogue!
It’s prolly a leather smith quest that hasn’t unlocked yet
You need some meat. Either barb, fighter, cleric, or potentially bard imo
Ignite on any fast weapon is godly
like from devs side?
yep, it's too early for it, and this recipies is always on him
Honestly in that combo anything works
that's cool thank y
Ranger/wiz wouldn't be bad options but your druid will be doing over time in the melee department
I hate bear druid
what's best way to find people to run with? solo getting kind of boring
Bear is much stronger than other forms I think
But it's healthier than one shotting panther
I think too, exeption of piguin for Water map farming where he is the king :p
Squire royale 💯
The problem with bear is that the counter is to simply walk away
yes! have a blast with squire royale for sure. trying to find some regulars to run with instead of just getting randoms every time.
Add ppl to friends and then invite them to discord
If you had a good sesh
Using voice helps a lot, it opens up more poeple to use it too
hello guys can somebody explain to how religions system work? Also what is the timer on them?

