game-discussion

[tulip arch]

gotta get that peer pressure so you lock in

[azure bronze]

Warlocks haven't been that bad, they're cancer in the maelstrom though but most things are there

[tulip arch]

kill a few mobs then you can use it then you become a mob after you die

[tiny sun]

try doing any boss

[tulip arch]

yes they are

[inland laurel]

😭

[azure bronze]

How does one lock in against getting teamed in the blue maelstrom

[inland laurel]

that sucksssss

[tulip arch]

they get halberd that alone makes them cancer

[tulip arch]

win

[azure bronze]

Victory strike halberd fighter is worse

And more common

[tulip arch]

aint seen one

[inland laurel]

is teaming in pvp NOT high roller a bannable offense?

[azure bronze]

We legit playing different games huh

[tulip arch]

✅ it is

[azure bronze]

Did they change it?

[idle hamlet]

isnt it only in highroller?

[tulip arch]

guys can we all go oceana servers so we just play together

[azure bronze]

It used to be only hr where organic teaming wasn't allowed

[tulip arch]

its bannable

[idle hamlet]

wouldnt we get banned with your logic?

[tulip arch]

believe all modes its bannable

[tulip arch]

if they banned us yea

[azure bronze]

Even organic now?

[idle hamlet]

the disclaimer only exists for HR

[tulip arch]

i mean if its soloes like yea i think

[azure bronze]

It was always against the rules to do it premeditated but organic not in hr has been allowed for the longest time

[idle hamlet]

it should still be. otherwise the disclaimer about having not friendly interactions would not just be in the HR selection menu it would be either everywhere or nowhere(with the implication of it being not allowed)

[tulip arch]

it would help if i could find somewhere with rules

[azure bronze]

They should update ghost king

Kind of a low quality boss ngl

[idle hamlet]

?

[azure bronze]

The model just looks goofy

And the attacks arent very flashy

[wanton fractal]

where do i find broken glasses

[azure bronze]

Esp since they moved him to the crypts

[azure bronze]

Imps in third floor ruins

[pallid hemlock]

welp thats whats on Fab

[idle hamlet]

it dont need flashy attacks just look at troll bro has 3 attacks 4 in hr iirc

[tulip arch]

the boss that needs an update is banshee

aint nobody fight her and shes also kinda easy

once you know to grab the flying souls then the only dangers gone

[azure bronze]

Ghost king used to give the most points out of any boss in the entire game

You'd expect him to be a little more flashy and cool than a sheet with eyeholes and a crown

[tulip arch]

honestly peak design

[idle hamlet]

aint noone but like 10 ppl looking at them leaderboards

[azure bronze]

They coulda at least made him ethereal

[pallid hemlock]

fits the goofy arcade circus game perfectly tbh

[azure bronze]

That's not the point shlawg

[tulip arch]

theres also like 2 other ghost bosses man

[azure bronze]

2?

There's gk and banshee

Who's the third??

[tulip arch]

spectral knight

[azure bronze]

That's not a ghost

That's animated armor

[pallid hemlock]

literally a specter

[tulip arch]

lmao

[azure bronze]

If we want to get technical he would be a poltergeist

But not a ghost per say

[tulip arch]

(from German poltern—to make noise, and geist—ghost).

cough

[azure bronze]

Words have meaning past their root components yk

[pallid hemlock]

he could literally be called ghostly knight and it would mean the same thing

[tulip arch]

but they where created using those components for a reason

[azure bronze]

This conversation is getting very derailed

[solar vector]

they could also just classify all that stuff as spirits

[azure bronze]

That's fair

[tulip arch]

hes a fricking entity made out of translucent substance holding up armor

[azure bronze]

Animated armor, yes

[pallid hemlock]

spectral = specter = ghost
thats it, thats the conversation

[tulip arch]

is ghost king animated armor?

but instead of metal armor its a bed sheet

[pallid hemlock]

if you consider a robe, or draped cloth, armor, then yes

he is animated clothing

[azure bronze]

No?

[tulip arch]

🥀

[pallid hemlock]

yes?

[azure bronze]

The cloth isn't animated

[opal fox]

did they change maggot drops? i havent gotten a single one

[tulip arch]

[azure bronze]

It's just over him

The entire point of animated armor is it's creating the form of a human to use

[pallid hemlock]

same with spectral knight, the armor is just on him

[azure bronze]

Like sk swinging a sword with his armor, that is animated

[tulip arch]

he is a dead spirit brought back using magic and turned into a translucent material that can interact with the real world

[azure bronze]

Gk just is wearing cloth

He doesn't do anything with it it's just there

[tulip arch]

the best way to end the conversation is that there all just dead spirits-

[azure bronze]

So it's not animated and it's not armor

[tulip arch]

whats under spectral knights armor

thats right white fog

whats banshee made of

[azure bronze]

New topic 🥀

[tulip arch]

white fog
whats ghost king made of
white fog

[tulip arch]

if i put a pickle in a hotdog bun what is it?

[azure bronze]

SK is blue fog, checkmate

But uhh

[tulip arch]

(btw spectral knights technicall races according to wiki is "undead - ghost")

[azure bronze]

They should add more weapons to the game

[opal fox]

did they change maggot drop locations?

[pallid hemlock]

spectral literally means ghostly but chalk the conversation

whens a new wiz spell coming?

[azure bronze]

There really isn't much weapon variety

[tulip arch]

new bard music when?

[azure bronze]

Hopefully they get an unlock spell

[tulip arch]

only cuz some weapons are just useless

[azure bronze]

Nah not even

[tulip arch]

(hatchet)

[azure bronze]

Like there's only 3 two handed swords in the game

And ones a crystal sword ffs

[tulip arch]

issue?

honestly alot all things considered

[azure bronze]

There's a ton of weapons they could add

[tulip arch]

could

[tulip arch]

also artifacts

essentially the same but eh

[azure bronze]

I am going to kill this auto censor

I can't even say the name of a weapon bruh

[tulip arch]

man ive only seen 2 of the blood sap blades in 600 hours

[azure bronze]

Bast*rd sword gets censored

[tulip arch]

kinda crazy

[pallid hemlock]

i thougt 'veil of shadows' was supposed to be an artifact cloak? instead its a boof rogue ability?

[inland laurel]

okay what about not teaming but also deciding not to fight

[bright quarry]

PLEASE NERF ROGUE !!!!!

[azure bronze]

Ngl I would love to see an executioner's sword in the game

[tulip arch]

over 50 weapons btw

not counted any variations of the same weapon

[azure bronze]

Spread between the classes that isn't that much

[tulip arch]

more then what other games give

[azure bronze]

Esp since warlock can use like all of them

[tulip arch]

🥀

[azure bronze]

For no reason

[tulip arch]

warlock can do anything it wants

idk man

[azure bronze]

Seriously why can they use the zwihander, halberd, and bardishe

On top of everything else

[tulip arch]

why can they use plate armor

and have a whole transformation

and infinite heals

and hit scan spells

[azure bronze]

Because it was sdfs favorite class when starting the game

[tulip arch]

and a summon (2 technically)

[azure bronze]

Remember how for like half the games life warlocks were the only ones ever doing bosses because they just were better

[tulip arch]

and can break doors fast

and can turn immortal for a few seconds while getting move speed

and can clear pve super easily

[azure bronze]

Don't forget how hydras can see invisible rouges

[tulip arch]

and can deal damage to whoever hits them

and can get insane magic power

and can buff allies

[azure bronze]

Don't forget how they have a perk specifically for undead that just makes pve in the crypts 10x easier

[tulip arch]

and get 20% magic damage reduction

lmao

[inland laurel]

damn is that why my friend told me to play warlock...

[azure bronze]

The most "is my OC noticeable" class in the game

[tulip arch]

and can get plus 3 to all attributed

while buffing there next attack by 99%

[azure bronze]

Don't forget how they can make use of every single stat

None are useless

[tulip arch]

and grind bosses

all warlocks missing is a teleport ngl

might aswell let warlock teleport onto his evil eye at the cost of 1 hp

[azure bronze]

They already have the most broken escape skill in the game

Only maybe being outclassed by druid

[tulip arch]

22 will with no armor 🥀

[tulip arch]

better then druid in ways

[azure bronze]

Depends on the situation

[tulip arch]

if you dont want to completely leave the fight phantomize is stronger

and no risk of instantly dying to something

and they just gave the demon race that just so happens to pair super well with warlock

[azure bronze]

Because of course

It's their special little boy

[tulip arch]

quick question

[azure bronze]

Oh yea don't forget they also have multiple artifacts that are clearly meant for them

[tulip arch]

how does warlock have 58 magic armor with no armor equiped?

[azure bronze]

Willpower?

[tulip arch]

true

[azure bronze]

Like bro

[tulip arch]

no armor on and hes already more magic resistance then some fighters lmao

[azure bronze]

Zirks eye literally buffs one of their spells specifically 😭

Literally ONLY THEY can use that artifact

[azure bronze]

Not a high bar when some fighters have negative

[tulip arch]

only other thing warlock doesnt have is holding more spells lol

[zealous herald]

i need some mfs to play dark and darker with cause these randoms be either rogues rangers or ratards

[tulip arch]

ikr

shame for you cuz im getting off it and gonna go watch stuff i forgot to watch

[clear pendant]

u guys tryna say warlock is op?

[azure bronze]

DaRk and daRkeR

[tulip arch]

are you about to say its not

[clear pendant]

tell me how many warlock u saw in that arena tournament

[azure bronze]

I'm just saying it's their favorite child and has been since the games drop

[clear pendant]

oh yes 0

[zealous herald]

allot actually

[tulip arch]

just because top 100 not use something doesnt mean its not strong

[clear pendant]

what names?

[tulip arch]

"oh nobody on leaderboard uses ranger" yap

[azure bronze]

Apparently balancing only matters to the literal top players in the game 🥀

Goofy argument lol

[zealous herald]

this guy thinks i remember every player name

[clear pendant]

oh ok lets balance around bad players?

[tulip arch]

i mean-

[clear pendant]

then nerf barb more

[azure bronze]

....thats

[tulip arch]

i mean-

[azure bronze]

That's how games work

[tulip arch]

guys should we balance our game around 80% of the player base?

or the 1%

[zealous herald]

here's an idea make all classes good

[clear pendant]

nice idea, lets balance the game around guys with 100 hours with no clue

[tulip arch]

yea-

thats... thats how games work...

[clear pendant]

lets buff wizard more then

[azure bronze]

NEVER let bro become a game dev 😭

[tulip arch]

ong

[proper pollen]

hey guys, i haven't played in a year, figured i was quitting forever. I have heard whispers, how is the game going now?

[dull plank]

much better

is new patch coming today?

[tulip arch]

should be

[dull plank]

k

[tulip arch]

and hopefully halberds nerfed

[tulip arch]

bet he thinks halberd needs buff

[azure bronze]

"chat no one in the top 0.01% of the game uses this so it clearly doesn't need a nerf, ignore how 80% of the player base is complaining about it"

[dull plank]

fr tired of getting legit 2 tapped in squires

[azure bronze]

I saw some people saying longsword needs a buff 🥀

[tulip arch]

only being 2 tapped because they dont do enough to fill in the other 10% of the hp

its not like there doing 50% of ur hp so you get 2 tapped

[clear pendant]

imagine complaining about warlock when ranger is the best class in the whole game and now they have broken new skills and perk

[tulip arch]

they do 90% then the 2nd is just to finish it

[tulip arch]

how many top players on leaderboard play ranger?

[dull plank]

yeah fr

[tulip arch]

gotta be balanced bro

[zealous herald]

simply need to make it less rock paper scissors and more skill over items and add more content dont overthink it dont overnerf and overbuff slight changes

[tulip arch]

also literally nobody here said rangers not op

[dull plank]

warlock needs to be nerfed into the ground as well

[clear pendant]

check arena leaderboard lil bro

[tulip arch]

arena 🥀

[azure bronze]

Bro forgot about least season when they gave fighters the easiest win button of all time 🥀

[clear pendant]

the demigod leaderboard its just pve

its irrelevant

thats why ppl is playing warlock and hallberd, for farming overseer

[azure bronze]

Keep in mind a good fifth of the player base can't even play hr

Due to the new update

[rotund saffron]

did anyone just get sent back to the lobby with all gear still on

[zealous herald]

well if any of yall want to play with a cleric im down to heal and frontline when need be another time

[clear pendant]

you guys getting clapped by hallberd warlocks and u think its op when its actually a pve build

[azure bronze]

Omfg bro cannot be refusing his OWN LOGIC on why a class was bad 😭

[clear pendant]

sorry i dont understand your point

[tulip arch]

2 of the most op things in the game combined and we arent allowed to complain

[azure bronze]

1: you can't even spell halberd

2: who said I'm losing?

[zealous herald]

this is not that big a deal fr

[dull plank]

aint no way u said its not op

its broken asf

[clear pendant]

its not

[azure bronze]

Hallberd 🥀

[crystal sonnet]

Is anyone else having an issue where you walk forward, and sometimes when you open your inventory while walking it stops you from walking until you let go of W and press it again? I don't remember this being a thing

[clear pendant]

ppl play it because the new boss guys

[dull plank]

explain to me why its not

[steel valve]

Every class is op except for when i play it, then its skill gap

[azure bronze]

9 more damage than a zwihander with the same swing speed and a double parry btw

[tulip arch]

just saw a screenshot of 5 halberds 4 fighters 1 warlock

all fighting

[dull plank]

^^

[clear pendant]

i mean halberd its very strong but with fighter

not as warlock

[tulip arch]

also with warlock

[clear pendant]

na

[tulip arch]

blow of corruption and your folded

[clear pendant]

u guys are pretty clueless

[azure bronze]

Chat ignore how I have seen 90% of warlocks and fighters use it this season

[tulip arch]

right

[clear pendant]

no point arguing anymore

[tulip arch]

right

[dull plank]

U could arque its even better wit blow of corp

[azure bronze]

🤓

Holy nerd bro

[steel valve]

W ragebait

[tulip arch]

im sorry daddy for ever doubting you and listening to the 20 other people who have said something different from you

im never going to doubt your outstanding intellect again

[azure bronze]

Not a single person in chat agrees with bro and he thinks he's right 😭

[clear pendant]

nobody was playing halberd warlock last wipe

[tulip arch]

can you pls hold me like a baby while i strip

[azure bronze]

Hermano 😭 🙏

[clear pendant]

guess why

[tulip arch]

what lobbies are you fucking in

[azure bronze]

And they're playing it this wipe, isn't that wild

[tulip arch]

literally what lobbies did you have all of last season?????

[dull plank]

???? i saw it so many times last wipe what

[azure bronze]

Halberd plate warlock is the most common warlock I see this season

[clear pendant]

warlock was dogs

[polar talon]

that was a legendary ragebait

[tulip arch]

has he resorted to straight up lying guys

[dull plank]

think hes ragebaiting now all g

[clear pendant]

how many warlocks in arena tournament guys?

you may need help for countinh

[azure bronze]

I love when people list what the top 100 players are doing while not being part of the top 100 players

[clear pendant]

oh 0

[azure bronze]

😭

[azure bronze]

And who were you in the tournament?

[tulip arch]

what classes do you play

[azure bronze]

Oh yea, no one

[clear pendant]

what is the point?

[tulip arch]

answer?

[dull plank]

def plays rogue

[clear pendant]

i play mainly wizard

[dull plank]

oh

[azure bronze]

🥀

[surreal ice]

oh wizard

[dull plank]

that class might be worse than rogue

[azure bronze]

Bro doesn't have to deal with melee combat and he thinks he has a good grasp of what a broken melee weapon is

🥀🥀🥀

[clear pendant]

i dont care what you guys play because if u say halberd warlock is op for pvp you cant play your main class

[tulip arch]

so you wanna play warlock you just dont have the slight bit of aim or melee skill needed?

[zinc ridge]

how can i play hr any easy ways?

[tulip arch]

dog you dont fight halberd up close anyways

[solid saddle]

What if halberd warlock is my main class and I call it op?

[tulip arch]

you play wizard obviously you havent a clue

[clear pendant]

im ignite wizard my friend

[dull plank]

legit ragebaiting atp

[clear pendant]

i really know it very well

[tulip arch]

then your lying 🥀

[gloomy sand]

what happend to the new quests?

[azure bronze]

I play fighter with a longsword and a zwihander

I kill halberd with my zwihander all the time

I can still recognize that the halberd is stronger

Just because there's a meta doesn't mean you have to use it bro 😭

[polar talon]

first we dont say ''ignite wiz'' we say bonkydonky

[lost mural]

What's up lowlifes

[clear pendant]

so clueless

[azure bronze]

🤓

[clear pendant]

when u say ignite wizard it means rondel

[dull plank]

yo tanilop what do u consider op in this game

[azure bronze]

Genuinely know bro swaps between discord, reddit, and twitch on the daily

[clear pendant]

ranger is the best class by far

[polar talon]

no rondel wiz is called winnieglizzy build

[clear pendant]

the second one is caster wiz

[azure bronze]

I bet he thought disarm prenerf was perfectly balanced

[tulip arch]

ngl you might be onto something

hes definetelly that kinda guy

[clear pendant]

every team that won the arena tournament in the three regions had a wiz ranger

[tulip arch]

literally nobodys saying its not

[clear pendant]

guess why

[tulip arch]

because wiz is great in arena

[clear pendant]

wiz is great everywhere

[tulip arch]

arena aint the only game mode dog

[azure bronze]

"it has a sound que just back up when you hear it"
Or
"Why would I complain about help putting away my weapon to run?"

[dull plank]

im not talking abt arenas gang

[solar vector]

i mean if its good in arena its prob good in dungeon, atleast trios, which wiz is

[tulip arch]

in arena you just run in spam every single spell then you die or enemy dies and poof your spells are back

wizard is great at fighting one other team

[azure bronze]

The humble and unassuming Francesca

[clear pendant]

i mean you can bring clarities you know?

[tulip arch]

humble hurl

[clear pendant]

and reset fights in doorways

[tulip arch]

literally havent died to a wizard in like 40 games

ive gotten low then died to there teamates sure

cuz they just slow me

[clear pendant]

leave normal games first step

[solar vector]

yeah but how does that mean wiz isnt good tho

[tulip arch]

no

[solar vector]

oh wait you play norms??

brotha thats not even the same game

[azure bronze]

Sorc is far more cancer than wiz

[tulip arch]

also still nobodys saying wizard isnt good

[dull plank]

i dont think he saying wizx isnt good he saying walrock is so much better

[tulip arch]

warlocks jsut better

[clear pendant]

hahaha

[tulip arch]

literally

[solar vector]

oh

[azure bronze]

Sorcs are the bane of my existence

I hate that class

Way more annoying than warlock

[solar vector]

i mean im of the opinion that all range classes in this game are cancerous

[tulip arch]

annoying more but not as strong

[azure bronze]

I'd rather deal with a ranger or wizard any day of the week

[dull plank]

sorcs will bend u over and one shot u beforee wiz has 2 spells ot

[solar vector]

and dont get me wrong i play the fuck out of ranger and lock but its aids

[azure bronze]

All they do is RUN

[lost mural]

I am of the opinion that the pvp in the game is mehh

[tulip arch]

even if they decided not to run they could be super strong

90% of sorcerers dont realise they dont have to run to win

flamethrower or tp with glaciate

[clear pendant]

respect brother, i also play ranged classes knowing they are cncr

[azure bronze]

I encountered a few melee sorcs that went crazy, but 95% of em just run across the map

[tulip arch]

and enemies hp is gone

[tulip arch]

running is safer

if they decide to go melee its such cancer tho

[solar vector]

yeah i also play the melee guys so i get it fs, but its not fair that a ranger can shoot someone twice and have them one shot lmfao

[azure bronze]

Its also so boring

[tulip arch]

also because its like 1/10 so you cant really expect it

[tulip arch]

not fair a warlock can phantomize walk up to you and 2 tap you with a halberd

[azure bronze]

I still remember playing prenerf fighter and sorcs being the ONLY thing that could deal with me

[tulip arch]

and full heal from any damage they take

[azure bronze]

Warlocks are genuinely the "do it all" class

[clear pendant]

i dont know who is that guy but i can make a guide for him

[azure bronze]

Mary Sue ahh class

Self insert OC ahh class

[tulip arch]

oh

tanillop has 11.5k hours on rust

his brain is MUSH

[main lintel]

where is brimstone river

[azure bronze]

🥀 ofc

No wonder he doesn't understand what actual balancing is

[tulip arch]

hes at almost 15k hours combining dark and darker and rust

[clear pendant]

definitely rust players are so low iq so i dont blame you

[tulip arch]

absolutely fried brain

[azure bronze]

How many times do you think hes dropped the N

[tulip arch]

its a shame because your surrounded by such low iq individuals you havent realised yours has also dropped

RIP

[clear pendant]

i would think the same way you do

[solar vector]

this is more of a halber problem i feel

[clear pendant]

yea i cant answer that youre right

[azure bronze]

"I'm not part of the echo chamber" - man who is inside the echo chamber

[solar vector]

best weapon in the game

[tulip arch]

fr

[harsh reef]

blood river module in inferno they changed the name cuz the blood theme is gone

[azure bronze]

9 more damage than a zwi with a vertical swing and double parry for the same swing speed btw

[tulip arch]

dear god having dead by daylight even installed once already put you to short bus status

[azure bronze]

Man

I can't wait for monk to be added to the game

[lost mural]

In 900 years lol

[tulip arch]

monk could unironically be the thing that saves this game if they dont FUCK IT UP

[azure bronze]

Patience is a virtue

[lost mural]

True

[tulip arch]

theres 100 ways they could add monk that would completely solve like all balance fr

[dull plank]

is it coming next wipe or nah?

[tulip arch]

next wipe of planet earth maybe

[azure bronze]

Once we accept that monk will come to us in time, then we will reach enlightenment and obtain it

[dull plank]

lol

[azure bronze]

"monk is coming out next season" has been said every season since season 4

😭

[lost mural]

Is it me or is the real issue with the game that the stats force you to build in a particular way, causing all the cancer with the ms ranged kiting and PDR tank bs as well

Or this a bad game theory?

[azure bronze]

Bad game theory

[tulip arch]

i bet god told noah the monk class in dark and darker would come after the flood

[main lintel]

ok thanks

[azure bronze]

The problem with that thought process is that people do have different builds and a lot of the balancing talk comes from us talking about squire kits

Or lightly geared

[lost mural]

hmm fair

[tulip arch]

the problem with the game is that some classes only counters have to be built in a very certain way

[azure bronze]

Like you don't see them that often but crystal sword fighter do run around

[clear pendant]

yea pretty much

[lost mural]

A part of me thinks that rolled stats would be fun for April fools lmao

For the basic attributes anyway

[tulip arch]

it should be rock paper scissors not rock, chinese candy wrapper, greg who sometimes wakes up in the morning, paper, rock and roll band, and scissors.

[clear pendant]

if you are a fighter you sometimes have to decide to be good against rangeds and building movespeed and then worse against melees

[azure bronze]

Chat we should just remove every stat in the game except our core attributes fr

I'm sure that would have no issues

[tulip arch]

guys why dont we turn dark and darker into dungeons and dragons

every attack is a dice roll

[azure bronze]

TRUE

[tulip arch]

you have to roll for your perks and skills

[azure bronze]

Chat why don't we add damage ranges to add RNG to our fights

[lost mural]

Would be fire April fools

You press left click and the game paused and says "roll die"

"1. You do no damage."

[weary magnet]

anyone know what max add weapon dmg you can get on a cape is

[tulip arch]

best april fools would be every time you load up the game you have a 1 in 7 trillion chance to be born

[azure bronze]

Honestly having a gamemode where you get like 6 perks and you have to lock them in and can't change for the season them would be pretty interesting

[tulip arch]

if you arent born it closes the game and you have to try again

[azure bronze]

But that would require perks to have nuisance

[tulip arch]

an official iron man character

[lost mural]

I would enjoy that with the rolled stats. Seems interesting.

[tulip arch]

wasnt there multiclassing at one point of the game?

[lost mural]

Yeah

I was there for it

[tulip arch]

would NOT work now

[azure bronze]

Yea but they implemented it horribly

Like so bad

[tulip arch]

theyd have to limit perks SO hard

[fickle lion]

anyone find mimic teeth this wipe? I've killed dozens of mimics and haven't seen 1

[tulip arch]

blow of corruption victory strike executioner could already be an evil start

[azure bronze]

They added it back during season 2, a bit after I first started playing, but these geniuses instead of making it a game mode like a sane person, they had it as an actual update to the main game with 0 testing in the play test server

[tulip arch]

lol

[azure bronze]

So everyone complained and quit because it was so broken

And they removed it entirely

Doofuses just had to make it a game mode 🥀

[lost mural]

Honestly

[tulip arch]

just not even possible to add modern day

[azure bronze]

Stuff would just get absurd today

[lost mural]

Should've deadass just added the origin stuff from DND. Magic Initiate ability or something, where you equip like three spells. Shit like that.

[azure bronze]

Whirlwind + axe mastery + adren surge + adren spike + poisoned weapon + some other perk

[tulip arch]

should make arena but like 10 rounds and every round the losers pick a new perk, skill, armor, or weapon

[azure bronze]

Too bad we aren't the devs

Gotta "hold the line" and "trust the vision"

[tulip arch]

what class would be the best to put all the perks onto?

they need good base stats

[lost mural]

First thing I'd do is make the combat have a different type of parry and then have chambers and shit as well. Would balance out the stat check gear bs with some actual fighting.

[azure bronze]

Prob barb

They're so chunky

[tulip arch]

barbs honestly got some shit stats

other then hp

[azure bronze]

Vigor

[tulip arch]

give rogue or bard divine protection plus adrenaline

[azure bronze]

Fighter is more balanced

[tulip arch]

then just stack up the attack speed and damage perks

[lost mural]

I was messing with a slayer fighter in s2r and pve. Was able to get 35% action speed for a couple of seconds with a combination of perks and abilities.

[azure bronze]

Why is there no one handed magical weapon

[tulip arch]

NOT TO MENTION IF YOU HAD TEAMATES

GOOD GOD

have all bard buffs

bard could also have jokester and flag

[azure bronze]

Why is there literally only one single magical weapon in the game (not artifact) and it's crystal sword

[lost mural]

I guess to balance out the spellcasting aspect. Would be a bit odd to spellcast with a shield in the offhand for defense.

[azure bronze]

Who said a magical weapon needs to cast spells

🥀

[tulip arch]

could get like plus 10 all attributes from 1 teamate

[lost mural]

Great point, I see what you're getting at

[green beacon]

PATCH PLEASE

[tulip arch]

also get plus 5 will from one of bards perks

[hidden wedge]

does longsword shielding stop all whirlwind damage?

[tulip arch]

how buff could we make a singular swing from a warlock

[azure bronze]

Imagine a world where rouges use a lower damage magical weapon to get through armor instead of having a perk that just lets them negate it

[tulip arch]

if warlock and his teamates could use any perks and skills

[lost mural]

What? Insanity. Not being forced to use the same few strategies to make a class work?

[azure bronze]

🥀

[lost mural]

That's too radical man

Not in the vision

[lost mural]

In all seriousness that sounds cool

[azure bronze]

Imagine using the other damage types in the game for actual balance freeing up perks and skills for actual builds instead of what's necessary to remotely play

[tulip arch]

a bard could give plus like 7 attributed then plus 5 will, i believe a druid perk gives plus 3 will, then give warlock victory strike, blow of corruption, executioner with a bardiche? and 20% will bonus

and we are still missing a bunch of perks for both people

i just cant think of more rn

[azure bronze]

You're missing fortified ground

+3 all

[tulip arch]

i didnt

thats part of the plus 7 attributes

[clear pendant]

but fortified ground its a fighter skill

[tulip arch]

bard music, plus 2 then flag plus 3 plus jokester plus 2

[tulip arch]

.

[azure bronze]

It applies to teammates genius

🥀

[tulip arch]

its a hypothetical if they added multiclassing again

plus a wizard teamate or sorcerer for glaciate or ignite

would be good

[clear pendant]

oh ok youre talking about multiclass

sorry einstein

[azure bronze]

Let's be fr you have the core of this wrong

You can do wayyyy more damage if you use a bow instead

[green beacon]

@zinc sparrow fix game fps for god sake

[tulip arch]

this might be true

but blow of corruption scaling with like 100 will could hurt to

victory strike also doesnt apply to ranged wait no it does nvm

[azure bronze]

Does boc work on bow

[clear pendant]

wdym 100 will

50 magical power its soft cap

[tulip arch]

soft cap 😉

[clear pendant]

i mean yea youre getting 50% of the value and i think it gets worse after 60

[tulip arch]

can also get the physical damage bonus up

[tulip arch]

dark offering might be better

[azure bronze]

Imagine how much damage we could do with longbow and multi shot

[tulip arch]

Channel your mind for up to 10s (Perk Quick Chant.png), sacrificing -10% Percent Max Health Healing per 1s ((Perk Quick Chant.png)) to gain 5% Physical Power Bonus and 5% Magical Power Bonus per stack, up to 10 stacks. This bonus lasts for 60s. All stacks are refreshed upon gaining a new stack.

[azure bronze]

We would get into the thousands for sure

[tulip arch]

dark offering with multishot would probably be the skill combo

theres an artifact longbow that can scale with magic right?

[azure bronze]

Uuuhh niplan does physical I think

Pesti does the poison

[solar vector]

nah

pesti doesnt acctually scale

[azure bronze]

Successful weapon attacks have 3 Physical Buff Weapon Damage and push the hit target forward.

That's nips

But it also has 15% armor pen innately so

[tulip arch]

blow of corruptions 50% magic damage bonus might not matter

but it still gives 50% physical

[solar vector]

wait it might scale but add mag doesnt work with it

[tulip arch]

prob still best other skill to use?

[azure bronze]

Some people are shaking overdraw applies to every arrow but I don't think that's true

I think it's only one of them

Same thing is prob true for victory strike if that's the case

[tulip arch]

safe bet rn is probably just dark offering

[azure bronze]

Boc is a spell right

[solar vector]

why use dark offering?

[tulip arch]

no

[azure bronze]

Ah

[tulip arch]

Channel your mind for up to 10s (Perk Quick Chant.png), sacrificing -10% Percent Max Health Healing per 1s ((Perk Quick Chant.png)) to gain 5% Physical Power Bonus and 5% Magical Power Bonus per stack, up to 10 stacks. This bonus lasts for 60s. All stacks are refreshed upon gaining a new stack.

[azure bronze]

Idk I never played warlock

@tulip arch there's a way for us to deal magical damage with a bow and have it scale

[tulip arch]

would that not be the best skill to boost the multishots damage

[solar vector]

but boc?

[azure bronze]

Explosive shot exists

Which is magical

But also purge shot the perk

[tulip arch]

rght but explosive shots a skill

[azure bronze]

Which does true magical

[inland laurel]

What would be better, 1-2 strength or 1 additional weapon damage?

[lost mural]

True

[lost mural]

Would will count towards that damage? Either explosive or purge.

[tulip arch]

i wonder if back attack would work for bow

i wonder what the best support teamates would be

[azure bronze]

No it wouldn't, I don't think so at least

[tulip arch]

i think bard would probably be one

[azure bronze]

Because will affects spell casting

[lost mural]

If it doesn't then that sucks. I would have liked to see it happen.

[azure bronze]

And elemental weapons aren't spells

[lost mural]

mm fair

[tulip arch]

bard can also give a plus 3 weapon damage using war song

plus they can shriek the enemy

[lost mural]

What about straight up magical damage bonus? I would assume that works.

[azure bronze]

+15% damage from the headshot perk btw

[azure bronze]

That should work yea

Don't know if that applies to true though

[lost mural]

Might be its own thing

[azure bronze]

@tulip arch does true physical/magical get affected by stats?

[tulip arch]

not a clue

[azure bronze]

Damn

[tulip arch]

i think technically there meant to

but only 50% as much

[lost mural]

I guess you just have to add true magical damage and mdb

[thin plume]

does anyone else have issues with the latest quest not appearing?

[tulip arch]

the other teamate could also have rupture to get rid of even more armor

lmao i wonder if we could do this but for how tanky we could get 1 person

and who would win

maxed of damage or maxed out defense

divine protection would already be a great start

[tropic brook]

some parts of me believe this game was created by single celled amoebas

[tulip arch]

thats rather generous of you

[dawn monolith]

Depends what your asking.

If your asking about certain skills.and or abilities if they have a number in Brackets it has scalaing.

Otherwise true dmg Is pretty simple.

1 true phys=1 dmg regardless of defenses

[lethal anchor]

Can anyone tell me how many days till market opens?

[dawn monolith]

Same with magic. 1 true magic is 1 more dmg regardless of defensive stats

But for the magic to work you need a source of magic dmg. That does include fiery staff for wizards etc

[sweet smelt]

how many %players are cheater？

[tame oxide]

2-300

[fresh plinth]

will goldsmith quest give me the ability to craft blue rings im trying to figure out whats the use in the blue arcane essence and epic

[tropic brook]

nexon shoulda took more lowkey

[solar vector]

the demon boss's slam attacks are so fucking silly

[dull plank]

ya do like 6 quests

[oak pelican]

i never got this the " security settingg " for going in HR

[inland laurel]

damn the ashen range sucks

[azure bronze]

Like does it scale with your magical boost

[eternal violet]

why did my new quest that i completed disappear

[dawn monolith]

Not unless you have a perk that gives it and scales. So purge shot on a ranger scales. Otherwise no

I think there's a few others but most don't scale. The short answer is true dmg Is insanely bad for games health

So it's highly limited

[azure bronze]

Simplest dark and darker mechanic:

[rapid vapor]

True damage almost never scales. The upside is it also ignores location multipliers and armor so you'll always have that extra damage

[silver bloom]

insanely bad for the game's health which is why instead we'll give ranger a skill that lets him double his multishot damage

you can also ignore armor through sheer damage output

[dawn monolith]

Yeah hopefully my explanation made sense lol.

There's like 2 examples of it scaling I can think of and I'm not even sure if one's in game still.

Rogue got true dmg on daggers and rangers on purge shot

And I'm not sure that the rogue one ever scaled

[rapid vapor]

Not afaik.

[azure bronze]

Well for the purposes of the earlier convo purge shot scaling is important

[rapid vapor]

I'm fairly sure purge shot is the only true damage with scaling. It's at least the first instance of it. But I don't think that's really problematic because it's kind of niche and a ranger isn't likely to stack a bunch of magic power bonus just to buff purge shot

[grizzled summit]

is poison weapon not good anymore or somethin? i jus got flamed for using it lmao

[granite summit]

Imagine unironically playing Druid or halberd fighter

[rapid vapor]

It's still one of the best perks, dudes being a goober. But it's good to keep in mind you should try to get will to 15 when using it so it isn't negatively impacted

[azure bronze]

The true damage on that barely even matters

1 true damage that only happens on a situation

The perk is mainly for removing the buffs

[tulip arch]

I forgot purge shot gives true dmg

Yall think close range expert and purge shot work on multishots arrows?

[azure bronze]

Longsword/zwei hander my goat

[tulip arch]

Cough 30 true dmg-

[azure bronze]

I have no ranged ability, if I can't catch you I DIE

[tulip arch]

Er not 30

[rapid vapor]

They do! So does overdraw. It's as gross as it sounds

[azure bronze]

Cse yes purge no

Only one of the arrows

It only does the true if it removes a buff

[tulip arch]

People are saying mixed things for that

[azure bronze]

And the first arrow will remove the buff

[old gull]

trade chat channel was ahead of its time, marketplace sucks but ssf is worse

[tulip arch]

Some are saying only 1 arrow works with overdraw during multishot

[knotty wadi]

Still no word on the inventory making you stop moving bug and it’s been 2 hotfixes into the patch, awesome work again @little summit

[tulip arch]

I tested it but i forgot if it worked

[azure bronze]

I heard from multiple people that it only applies to the first arrow

[fiery pilot]

I just realized, ive killed troll at least 15 times, no pelt, but 2 artifacts from pile :(

[azure bronze]

Not all of them

I'ma test that tomorrow to make sure

[azure bronze]

Skill issue clearly

[tulip arch]

Honestly still mental it can do over 15 true damage

[rapid vapor]

Oh I was mixing it up with spread shot. I always mix up their names. Yeah the rapid fire shots probably only work with 1 arrow

[exotic rose]

does anyone know where the bat roost room is on which level of the forgotten castle?

[ocean eagle]

3rd

[tulip arch]

Multishot with pesti 🥀

[grim vessel]

I picked up the dwarf skin and ran it on Bard with maximum resourcefulness/interact speed build PURELY to chop trees for the workshop upgrades and it still took hours and hours brah

I'm not even level 3 on them shits either, just 2

Ridiculous timesink

[rapid vapor]

The real question is do you guys think longshot expert is good or bait given it doesn't kick in until 6 meters and doesn't max out until 25 meters

[keen mauve]

life is much more simpler when you ignore the workshops

[exotic rose]

i dont know why crafting stations are a bigger time sink than farming bosses for artifacts

[snow sequoia]

how do i get sturdy cloth?

[azure bronze]

No we're talking about the same thing

Shotgun, I heard it only works on one of the arrows

I'ma test it on a dummy tomorrow because everyone says different things

[grim vessel]

My buddy found some in ice caves, idk where. Personally I found mine in the ruins, on that one module where you can drop down off some wooden scaffolding and there's a cave with three skeleton guardsmen in it. Used to be a mining location but not anymore I think. Might be called Bandit Camp?

[azure bronze]

Again, myth and myther should really cover this

[rapid vapor]

I don't believe that given when i tested it on a dummy the damage spread was even and anecdotally i one shot a full health barb with it which I don't think would be possible if only one arrow was buffed

[tulip arch]

Like 3 spawns on castle

One is by a cockatrice spawn up in a tower area

[azure bronze]

That's still easily possible even if it only affected one of them

[tulip arch]

By a lion chest spawn

Another is in a room with dummies a living armor and its in a lever room like in the ceiling

[azure bronze]

6 arrows and close range mastery from a longbow to the fast is a death sentence to pretty much everything

[snow sequoia]

i just went there. is it not 100% last wipe i went there plenty of times and it was there every time

[tulip arch]

And then another is in a room that spawns next to bridge with a drop down ladder

[tulip arch]

Its like 80% chance

[azure bronze]

Compared to what would be 9 arrows

[snow sequoia]

aw shucks

[tulip arch]

Its not 100% drop but very common id say

[dull plank]

is there not a patch today?

[tulip arch]

[dawn monolith]

Nah I'm mostly pulling from my smokey memory as well lol.

Also you guys are mistaking quick shot and multi shot.

Overdraw applies to all multishot arrows.

It only applies to first quick shot arrow.

The shot gun works. The machine gun doesn't.

So close quarters rangers are speccing overdraw multi shot with close quarters perk and longbow.

The sniper boys are playing with windfletch and the ranged dmg perks and 1 shotting across modules. Both super op

[errant patio]

I wish Squires was more like < 25 GS from 2-3 seasons ago where it's just a standard ruleset

or like separate option

[dawn monolith]

No flame but isn't this exactly the same thing just you can't bring a green ring?

Like the 0-25s were almost all all squire with 1 jewelry....

So it's literally the same thing

Just you don't need to invest in a ring every round you die

[stone panther]

You can still bring crafted stuff in, as long as it white.
Sterling gear finally has a point

[dawn monolith]

Hahahah I legit hadn't thought about that crash. Interesting addition to the conversation

[errant patio]

it's not rlly the same because fog and only 3 extraction changes the whole flow, I liked squire when it was standard ruleset

it's fun but it's not the same

i miss blues

[dawn monolith]

Oh thats what you meant by standard ruleset

That's on me my bad

[empty frigate]

anyone else's merchants not refresh their shops in many hours?

[dawn monolith]

Thought you meant standardized gear

[dawn monolith]

Relog. My mates alchemist does it all the time. Should reset every half hour or dungeon escape

[empty frigate]

ahh alright thx

[dawn monolith]

If that fails open a ticket and I'm sorry

[dawn monolith]

I will say squire royal is a amazing game mode though. I seem to only play hr and it now a days

[hasty valley]

Theres no reason to play normals when s2r has loot that is not even comparable to normals

[dawn monolith]

If I'm being honest I don't even care about loot in squire. Who's even making it 3 floors down to extract. Get me in those 4 way team fights

[hasty valley]

Fight or not, you can bank so good stuff from each floor there compared to normals it makes normals not worth to play

[stone panther]

not 3 floors, but slaying top layer and then dumping your load in the expressman while otto watches is a fair money making tactic.

[dawn monolith]

I mean I'm not saying your wrong haha. I just personally always die in a blood bath

[hardy stump]

norms have higher survival rate, if you play s2r with randoms, you'll rarely get that loot out

[hasty valley]

I was ratting solo yesterday s2r making bank and yoinking the gates from trios in inferno

[dawn monolith]

My expression usually pays my meds for next round. If that happens I'm happy

Express man**

[hasty valley]

Yeah, i more of meant dodging fights and just rat rogueing for loot

[dawn monolith]

Is mulli a common name? I know another discord user with it

I thought you were him for half a sec

[hasty valley]

Ive only seen one streamer using the same-ish name. It means happy or w/e in some other country, means a bull in finnish. Funny story couple of his viewers reached out to me saying i need to sell my twitch name to him... No i dont lol.

[dawn monolith]

My buddy isn't a streamer idk if he even plays video games haha but I know he's german and there's probably some crossover in the languages than

Fun coincidence though. Anyway I'm off to the dungeon myself.

Get out there and kill kill kill

[upper jungle]

Do we have a up to date wiki for the game ?

[fluid lily]

Is there an issue with the game? It fails to connect

[inland laurel]

buff warlock

[hardy stump]

skill issue

[inland laurel]

no

[hardy stump]

warlock is S tier meta class, literally no bad build

[inland laurel]

buff my baby wusy wanky warlocky woosy

its soooo weaaakkk

itt needs to be stronger

[fresh plinth]

make rings findable again this is lame as hell

[hardy stump]

yo wimpy ass needs to be stronger, go on your time skip training arc

[inland laurel]

TRUUKEEE i aint seen a single ring or amulet since i started

[fresh plinth]

yeah this is the worst update ever ngl were gonna have 5k blue rings and shit

[inland laurel]

i only have green

the word ch . ud is banned?

insane

[solid saddle]

Gotta do key rooms only way to get them in raid

[inland laurel]

wat is key room and wat is raid

[solid saddle]

Rusty key skull key etc

[inland laurel]

?

[hardy stump]

wdym? almost every plebeian killed will give you a full set of jewelery

[inland laurel]

ig idk wat that is

[inland laurel]

i dont play pvp

[hardy stump]

oof

[inland laurel]

too stressful

dont wanna lose my good stuff!

[hardy stump]

easy solution to that, don't bring in what you're too afraid to lose, my 1st season I never run bis, just budget, still managed to kill juicers and sold their kits for fortune

[inland laurel]

blehhh i dont wanna fight people

i just wanna get the good loot from the environment

[inland osprey]

Nothing new today boys?

[stone panther]

open gold chest, get rusty key, get blue/purple rings from rusty key room.
fixed

[peak sedge]

Can you not get spectral fabric in normals?

[devout brook]

is giant bat ear dropped by giant bat ive killed like 50

[stone panther]

10% drop across all modes, and hide is 5% 10% 20%
the game most not like you

[devout brook]

rip

[inland laurel]

ooo gold chest is the one on the bridge in the tower above the golem u need to kill right?

i only play castle

[plain totem]

No 2 hander nerf today?

[stone panther]

there's like 3 of them in castle. Above the golem, above the drop ladder in the module on the north-east of bridge. And in the second floor of keep (1 south then 1 west of bridge)

[inland laurel]

are they guaranteed drops?

[hexed wedge]

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[stone panther]

The chests are guaranteed, but not the rusty keys inside of them. But pretty decent drop rate. I'd say 25% with 0 luck. Closer to 75% if you get at least 200 luck going on your kit. Chug a large luck potion and you should get one after opening 2-3 chests every time.

when you get the key though, the jewelry in the room is guaranteed (provided you where there before anybody else). That key room is in the basement below the golem, with the ring/pendant in the floor of a little open box on the left side of the marvelous chest

[scenic tundra]

Bruh where can i find ores that are not cobalt ?

[inland laurel]

yeah i havent found one yet

[steel valley]

Does luck affect Unchained Harmony? also, does Unchained Harmony give AP as if opening the chest normally?

[scenic tundra]

i dont think luck works by itself

[lethal badger]

Yes to both

[scenic tundra]

is there a way to get more shared stashes ?

[white pumice]

i think everyone gets one, you get one from legendary and you get one from buying the seasonal pack

[scenic tundra]

yeah i got 3 shared is there a way to get more ?

[white pumice]

nah

just try and keep one shared kind of empty and use character stashes to store stuff and use the empty shared to move it around

[scenic tundra]

i play 3 classes constantly hard to keep 1 empty shared stash

[topaz lintel]

why put 3 classes worth of stuff in shared stashes, keep stuff specifically for certain class in their own stash

[nimble seal]

what does warlord drop this season?

[boreal pond]

Bis

[copper garnet]

do u guys know where new dreadspine locations are?

[indigo valve]

@little summit buff sorc

[scenic tundra]

there is only one in crypts 2nd floor no ?

[gritty pond]

2 ojn second floor where some wraiths used to be i forget which modules

[stone panther]

crypt

mini wheel (behind the doors where skelly champ used to be) & Sanctum

[scenic tundra]

the one with the chest in the middle on a circular platform

[pulsar kelp]

ive been in a s2r queue for 11mins and not letting me cancel. do i have to just exit the game out?

[scenic tundra]

it should let you cancel after 10sec, then yes restart the game

[gritty pond]

mini wheel is called pit

[gritty pond]

thats called pit

[stone panther]

no, it is not. Pit is a different module.
it might have one, I do not know. But mini wheel has one for sure behind the doors.

[hoary bluff]

can u only get cracked logs from norms and above?

[stone panther]

PvE too, just super low droprate. I'd say 1 in 20 or so

[gritty pond]

sent DM so i can identify it on map

[hoary bluff]

okay bet ty ill just rat in norms then to save time lol

[steel valley]

has anyone already done a research whether workshop grind is worth it?

[median grail]

quests keep appearing and disappearing?

[gritty pond]

a lot of people say that its an expensive investment and a decent amount of time, for minimal returns. all depends on your playsyle IMO

if you play a lot id spend the time, if youre more casual, just enjoy the season and dont stress on workshops. my 2 cents

[deft lintel]

???

[hardy stump]

rubysilver in inferno, tidestone on water map, iron everywhere, obsidian 2nd floor of goblin, frost ice abyss after wyvern kill, gold in dual boss room in goblin copper in random places in goblin

[gritty pond]

just here to be racist ig

ironmace said on reddit they gonna do that?

sounds likely

[deft lintel]

Link it.

[gritty pond]

rick roll incoming

[deft lintel]

Im sure he knows the consequences if he doesn’t.

[gritty pond]

hes making the post xD

[stone panther]

He's been on here for 2 days. This is likely already troll account number 20 anyway for him

[hasty valley]

Have to have either 15 iq or be 12 y.o to read that kind of stuff or talk about it in a public discord

[gritty pond]

or think its true

[deft lintel]

<@&988703997378584596>

[zealous wing]

7am and the drama pyre is already liiiit lmao

[gritty pond]

this dude just came here to stir lol just let it die xD

because it clearly angers you and you came here to be racist

so move on man, go play with a G.I joe

[grim vessel]

What the fuck kind of question is that
How clueless do you need to be to think that's going to happen because of a reddit post

[inland laurel]

because they were talking about the inherent racism of the company and that the lawsuit ending meant they won and can do what they want with the game

im new and dont know the lore and shit, im not about to support a racist game

[topaz radish]

where do dreadspines spawn? i havent seen any in the usual spots from last wipe

[thin copper]

crypt

[gritty pond]

they spawn in crypts at the mini wheel and the sanctum

[topaz radish]

modules?

[thin copper]

they was moved

ehhh, one sec

[clear jasper]

I saw a post on reddit that said if you play pve mode you have a small pecker. Weird post

[inland bobcat]

What is better for normal trios atm? Bard+cleric+barb or cleric+ranger+fighter?

[topaz radish]

is that the only spots?

[gritty pond]

i believe so, i havent seen or heard of them anywhere else

[topaz radish]

thank u guys <3

[fathom field]

You can't talk about such things here.

[grim vessel]

Saying that while playing Overwatch is crazy work...

[modest hull]

Is it worth paying the gold for the PvE maps?

[inland laurel]

ok understood! my mistake

[stone panther]

1k gold is nothing

[grim vessel]

It's only 1000 each, you can make that in a single run if you go down to the next level then extract after looting again. They're good for farming quest materials, but I don't know which ones are needed that come from the maps that aren't unlocked

[inland laurel]

now what about the other person making transphobic comments?

[stone panther]

dude, give it a rest

[full creek]

aye wheres the halberd nerf at?

[grim vessel]

Nobody is making transphobic comments, you're trying to deflect from your bad behavior. Your profile did not include pronouns (yes I saw that you just changed that) and the people who kept using 'he' probably just didn't see your reply saying "she*"

[fathom field]

We will investigate, so please return to the game conversation

[modest hull]

Cheers, was just curious as im still new to this and dont know the gold farm routes yet =]

[latent yew]

Ur a weirdo for even typing that get out of here

[gritty pond]

nothign said was overly offensive and i stand by everything i said. racists are scum

[vagrant fulcrum]

I think that currently all quests (excluding the Huntress') can be done within the Forgotten Castle map
(Spider Silk, Gold and Cobalt are rarer, but not impossible to find in the Ruins)
The only exception is the Goldsmith's Tidestone Ingot quest, which arguably you can get from the Religion, so you don't even have to get your feet wet.

[gritty pond]

anyone find any awls yet?

ive only managed one and i died with it 🙁

[grim vessel]

You can find silk in the ruins? sheesh

And yeah golem can drop cobalt

[grim vessel]

The Awl and Bellows seem to drop in the second level of forgotten castle

[stone panther]

hidden altar, if you get really lucky with the spooder

[latent yew]

Spear skellys drop them all the time

[fathom field]

Has anyone obtained an artifact from the pile (hoard) in the boss's room this season? It wasn't mentioned in the patch notes.

[gritty pond]

yes spear skeles but ive had horrid luck

[vagrant fulcrum]

Yeah, there is one Giant Spider that spawns in the Hidden Altar module (#dnd-screenshots message) , if the Altar of Sacrifice doesn't spawn

[grim vessel]

ahh yeah I forgot that spider

[gritty pond]

i heard someone got one on their first run but nothing after, ive yet to get an artifact this season

[vagrant fulcrum]

That darn quest two wipes ago, to kill 5 giant spiders in the Ruins ...
And there was no altar marked on the map back then, you had to go check each time, and the module wasn't even guaranteed to spawn

[fathom field]

Oh, I see. Thanks for letting me know

[hasty valley]

How do you get tidestone from religion? Donating to it?

[vagrant fulcrum]

Yes. I think it's at like ... 160k?

[thin dagger]

u gotta donate alot

did they reduce price of purple logs?

[thin copper]

atp i think its way easier to farm it

[hasty valley]

Heh, ill just wait for market then. Thanks

[stone panther]

just farm it on watermap, it spawns on the edges of the giant hole about 50% of the time. No need to kill the stingray. Fight a jelly or maybe a shark at most. And the jelly usually stays chill if you just come in from low

[hasty valley]

Oh, good to know. Thanks! Thought you had to kill the ray. YT video was wrong.

[stone panther]

might be outdated. I think they introduced it last season. It is not a 100% spawn, but frequent enough. Just swim above the hole and look down for a big bright green glob near the walls of the hole, there's like 3-4 spots it can appear, sometimes even 2 or 3 at the same time

[vagrant fulcrum]

Oh, of course. 1K to unlock the map is way cheaper than 160+k.
However the idea was just to tell that all quests currently released could be completed within the Forgotten Castle

[rocky plover]

can i ask whats the point of uniques now? i stopped playing right before red rarity was introduced, and now im completely lost on the point of these, cause they just seem like vendor trash

[hasty valley]

All about having the right stats on right item. Unique is just slightly better than legendaries and so on

[stone panther]

Unless you get +8 or +9 of some extremely needed stat, I almost much rather have +3+3+2 on a bunch of legendary's

[hardy stump]

each tier is 10k

[stone panther]

20k this season

[vagrant fulcrum]

Yeah, they increased it to 200k total, each step being 200 scrolls (20k). I just checked and yes, Tidestone ore is at 1,600 donations

[hardy stump]

damn, nothing escapes inflation

[warm mulch]

so putting in scrolls gives you a few ores as you progress towards the skin?

[winter tinsel]

You can reroll the stats with unique gems afaik

[paper mulch]

is shield fighter good rn with shield slam ?

[regal grotto]

what happened tp the new quests? swear i needed broken glasses i got my pearl and tidestone yesterday

[gritty pond]

im also in this boat of not getting what makes the uniques even useful. are we trading all the extra stats for an extra point or two of raw damage?

even if you had a unique spear with added weapon damage, its only got that one stat

[humble oasis]

Bad

One handed swords are garbage

[weak ermine]

Regarding Squire Gear - is there any reason at all to pick Lightfoot Boots now when you want max Movement Speed?

Lightfoot Boots give +3 Armour Rating and +8 Movement Speed

Caster:
Wizard Shoes has same Movement Speed but +13 Armour Rating and +2 Magical Power
Everybody else:
Laced Turnshoes has better Movement Speed (7 + 2 Agi = 7 + (2*0,6) = 8,6 Movement Speed and +15 Armour Rating but also improves Action Speed as well because that's now a combination of "Agility (0.25 rating) and Dexterity (0.75 rating) which are summed and converted"

So ... going from a 99% pick rate for every char in Season 7 to 0%?

[lavish hemlock]

For squire yeah, I think lightfoot with good rolls will still be super good

[gritty pond]

wish there was a wall of shame channel post vids and SS of players being losers, sick of people so savagely hungry for a pixel they will stab you in the back for a squire fit cuz you opened a chest lol

[hasty valley]

Theres a pve mode for a reason

[gritty pond]

thats not the point lol, youre looting a room with a guy and helping clear mobs, sharing heals, fight off another player and then sword you in the head right before portal? thats worth a scumbag sticker

[toxic notch]

gentlemen i havent played a lot recently and i am not caught up on new updates and class changes, are there any classes that got heavily nerfed/buffed to watch out for?

[thin copper]

oh, my bad then. didnt catch that

[hasty valley]

Druid got gutted. Halberd made fighters/boc warlocks even stronger

[toxic notch]

yeah i been seeing lot of boc warlocks in my games

[hasty valley]

Super boring melee meta

[weak ermine]

How can I see my exact spell damage for each spell when I picked my Squire gear and my skills/spells before I enter a map?

[deft lintel]

No such thing unfortunately.

Only attacks with weapons are calculated and shown in the stat sheet at the bottom

[weak ermine]

Just wow ... :forbiddenclownemoji:
Indirect spell nerf, melee UX age is upon us

[hardy stump]

yes, only way to get gold if you can't dual boss

[tulip arch]

Golem

[warm mulch]

But its just a one time thing right?

[clear jasper]

Or if you get lucky on crypts with a secret room or golem

[lavish hemlock]

Luckily I haven’t been teamkilled since the first steam playtest

[hardy stump]

by the power of grade school math - you take base spell dmg, add weapon dmg multiplied by number in bracket and muliply by will bonus

[hardy stump]

can golem still drop gold? I haven't seen it drop anything besides copper and cobalt this season

[indigo ginkgo]

I heard this game is not good, should I play it?

[clear jasper]

Ya it can drop gold and ruby as well (fairly rare tho)

[warm mulch]

How many ores do you get for each step of religion?

[hardy stump]

3 stacks per tier

[weak ermine]

I have a perk that gives +15% Will, Soul Shards would give +3 All Attributes and Vampirism gives +20% Magical healing bonus

Yeah no, not going to do with

[warm mulch]

Seems like a bad rate x) thanks for answering ❤️

[gritty pond]

obviously to be completely fair we werent in a team, we teamed up, normals. and this is why i dont trust anybody, the one time i did and i paid for it xD

[pliant valley]

i thought it was 4 stacks

[fast raptor]

what stats should i be aiming to get for fighters?

[pliant valley]

or else i have random golld ore in my stash

[gritty pond]

additional wep damage, dex, agility

[fast raptor]

ty, so no strength?

[gritty pond]

strength helps but id go dex over str

[pliant valley]

Fighter obviously needs will, knowledge and resourcefulness

[hardy stump]

I miss time when it gave out some gold storage

[fast raptor]

dont do that ill actually build it XD

[pliant valley]

if u wanna sheep, i'll lead u

LUL

[fast raptor]

idk what that means lmao

but maybe not? XD

oph wait

[thin copper]

same

[fast raptor]

i get it

[pliant valley]

LUL

[fast raptor]

big day ok

[gritty pond]

i got ruby silver from golemn

this season

[thin copper]

[steady stirrup]

does shield mastery no longer work on longsword parry?

[pliant valley]

it hasn't worked for a couple seasons

[grizzled citrus]

at least thats what the game thinks when it puts max rolls on fighter gear. always those 3 lol

[steady stirrup]

ah ive been gone for a couple. good to know thanks

[pliant valley]

ikr!

[gritty pond]

says still a 10% chance for gold ores in HR

[pliant valley]

u can find gold ore in pve sometimes

[grizzled citrus]

and its usually a smaller stack

[gritty pond]

on golemn? tracker doesnt agree

[pliant valley]

not on golem

[gritty pond]

for the pve thing

[pliant valley]

but in the secret room of crytps

[gritty pond]

gotcha, ive yet to see that

[grizzled citrus]

i got 2 gold ore from golem yesterday in hr

[pliant valley]

nice boss

[gritty pond]

was asking about nodes not the golemn :p

[grizzled citrus]

sry havnt had my coffee yet lol

[gritty pond]

dude same, i couldnt even find the mini wheel modules this morning, it was the module next to me lol

[white meadow]

are yall also getting an error while redeeming drops?

[pliant valley]

Oceanic and SEA has favortism bc they tend to have the secret room appear more often. and also tends to have 3 loot hoards under the boat in maelstrom

[peak sedge]

can i like send a clip of someone teaming so i can be sure they get banned?

[gritty pond]

im getting zero errors, kicks, or disconnects this season

[gritty pond]

yes, in game hit escape, support, report a player

[pliant valley]

u can hit R when ur viewing a player to report them

[white meadow]

it fixed as soon as i mentioned it in this chat

[pliant valley]

pretty sus

[gritty pond]

its always like that xD

[peak sedge]

ye but i got a clip of them teaming i wanna make sure they get banned cause i lost my full gemmed legandary kit to some cringe teamers

[grizzled citrus]

iv lost a few insane hr kits because of crashes this wipe. never used to crash. "oh, i hear footsteps"... crash

[pliant valley]

u know what happens when i die? I just move on bc i was in a pvp mode

[foggy rain]

Anyone know the actual %chance of getting a coin bag from loot piles in PVE?

[gritty pond]

ive yet to report anyone even the teamer but ive also yet to lose a good kit this season, im playing slow

[gritty pond]

yes its 0.03%

[quartz pine]

where do hourglasses spawn in season 9?

[pliant valley]

still find them in ruins in the room with the bath house

[winter tinsel]

Same, happened to me a couple times now. Always in HR too 👀

[grizzled citrus]

now that you mention it, I think all of mine were in HR aswell. usually near an extract or after i extract

must be something with the security stuff

[pliant valley]

yup i crashed as i was exiting once\

[spiral totem]

mine have been after exiting before the score comes up

[pliant valley]

but u still got ur stuff though right?

bc i did

[spiral totem]

I did

[quartz pine]

"Bath House" module? they moved them from bottom right?

[pliant valley]

yea

i found min ethere

[quartz pine]

where in the module do they spawn?

[pliant valley]

on a bench /table on the sidewall

on the water side of the room, and the chest next to it

[quartz pine]

ty'

[pliant valley]

np, gl

[lime pine]

Does first layer boss drop artifacts now? Like spectral knight or troll

[sudden ruin]

no

[grizzled citrus]

nope

[lime pine]

Aight thx

[sudden ruin]

although you can pull them from the dual boss pile or mystical gem pile on goblin caves

[dim thicket]

any tips on spear fighter? i'm finding the damage way too low, especially on pve encounters

[gritty pond]

added weapon damage on the spear applies before other buffs are calculated giving the most bonus, very important, added dex and action speed will allow faster attacks which will in turn be more DPS than trying to pump up the damage per hit

[dim thicket]

ty, gonna try and make a kit for that