game-discussion

[winter tinsel]

Quality or quantity, pick one, not both

[long hornet]

Can only ask for so much

[main raven]

More accurately, the Rogue changes seem pretty good and the Ranger changes is what I might have an issue with

Rogue actually seems interesting because a lot of the additions don't really work with the rest; Sneak Attack doesn't really work with Shadowstep because you'll put them in-combat on the ranged hit, thereby losing 20 damage from Sneak Attack. Dualstrike seems baller, but seems to also require two daggers, which might limit or prevent the use of a Rapier if you also want to rock a minicrossbow on backup, etc.

[long hornet]

Rogue finally has a way to gap close cheaters which is a big w. Rapier is shit on rogue unless mob clear. Even then meh

[main raven]

I heavily fuck with it since the Rapier riposte changes, its pretty baller

You're probably not wrong though, post-Rogue revamp I can't see the Rapier getting much use

[long hornet]

I mean, it’s good for Ranger and bard

[main raven]

Bard can rock the Cutlass though, which honestly just feels better than the Rapier and doesn't need a perk

[long hornet]

Most of rogues perks and damage revolves around daggers. Rapier doesn’t put out damage fast enough with your perks

Cutlass is trash. Its a pve or sorc tp weapon

[winter tinsel]

Rogue changes look cool. I'm not a fan of "poof magical teleport" but it would make sense if they had flash powder as a reagent etc

Medic/utility ranger seems cool. Explosive shot is meh imo. It's like they copy pasted explosion. Would prefer if they just did a burn DoT instead

[main raven]

I've done pretty good with it myself. Slower weapons get noticeably faster when you've got action speed boosts, and slow weapons were absolutely not designed to be fast

[long hornet]

You have to land a ranged hit.

[long hornet]

You’re locked in attack animation. So it’s easy to outspace

[main raven]

Considering they have the minicrossbow, landing a ranged hit isn't that difficult

[long hornet]

Explo will be godly on surv now

[winter tinsel]

Yeah, wow.. land hit then magically teleport. Still kinda whack lol

[main raven]

That's the thing though; does the game actually let you stack it several times on the same target?

[meager atlas]

is wipe tomorrow?

[finite yoke]

It'll be funny if rogue clips out of the map if your back is on a wall

[long hornet]

True, but you need to -pdr perk so you have to hit a throwing knife, then a hand crossbow, to do a you know what will happen tp. We don’t know how buggy the tp is or the attacks after etc

[main raven]

Shadowstep/Cutthroat will actually just hard counter casters though, there's nothing you can do

[finite yoke]

Ignite + bonk

[long hornet]

Rogues use double dagger. You’re the slowest class in the game with the lowest attack range and least attack speed

Barb fighter still better

[main raven]

You can TP on a throwing knife as well, but I'm not really a fan of the -PDR perk on knife hit unless throwing knives are replenishable

[winter tinsel]

I mean gameplay wise it's cool but thematically it falls into the "magic" category. But then again you could argue full invis stealth doesn't make much sense either

[main raven]

Does Cutthroat get rid of Ignite? I don't think it does, but its your only chance as a Wizard really

[long hornet]

Rogue is booty cheeks in squire. It took 6-7 hits to kill a fighter or barb in bis whites let alone grey gear. They just made rogue better vs high pdr and cheaters

[finite yoke]

Cutthroat only clears magic abilities, not cast spells

[long hornet]

Just run or invis. Rogue won’t be able to catch you

Hold ice bolt wait for tp

Mm

Many options

[main raven]

Can't cast Invis until Cutthroat wears off lol

[long hornet]

Most rogues won’t use cutthroat for like a week or more

Shadow step invis, or shadow step double daggers will be meta

[main raven]

Well, there's only a few good options with Shadowstep, mostly the classics like Rupture and maybe Weakpoint

If they still have Invis that probably works too

[long hornet]

The double dagger attack and hide will both be good

You can proc ambush before you engage for ms, or double dagger attack for more burst

[main raven]

Yeah there's also definitely a full-landmine playstyle, although you can't use Hide, Dualstrike and Sneak Attack since that's three skills

[long hornet]

Rogue is very very perk and ability dependent

[main raven]

honestly, just Dualstrike/Sneak Attack and camping a corner is also pretty brutal

Dualstrike seems to add up both your weapons' damage as one attack, so landing a Dualstrike attack from stealth with Ambush probably one-shots half the roster

I'm curious if the creep rework just outright makes you silent while crouching or walking

[main raven]

This is why I'm more concerned about the Ranger changes, because most of the new additions seem to make you better at things you were already good at

[long hornet]

Creep always have shoe squeak sounds it’s pretty useless. If they add wall climb to it only reason to use it

Yeah Ranger one will be pretty insane

[main raven]

Point-Blank Expert with Longbow Shotgun is uhh... certainly an addition

plus you could combine that with Overdraw to just one-shot some poor Wizard's dome

you could also do point-blank on a Survival Bow with Forceful Shot and Explosive Shot to plant about eight dots on some poor nerd

[grizzled citrus]

i always get a rogue in S2R. they die every time. worst class to pick for s2r

[main raven]

Wizard isn't much better there, is it?

[grizzled citrus]

if you do the math an overdraw shotgun has the dmg to 1 tap an entire team lol

[scarlet spindle]

can you overdraw shotgun tho? Is that confirmed? Does shotgun actually have a draw effect or is it just "shoot!"

[grizzled citrus]

you have to draw it back so probably

[scarlet spindle]

oof ok 💀

[thin copper]

how does one see which spells can be combined on warlock?

[grizzled citrus]

warlock cant combine. thats sorcerer

[thin copper]

have i mistaken those classes as the same one this entire time

[grizzled citrus]

when you hover over a spell it will highlight the spells that can be combi ed with it

[thin copper]

thanks

[cyan wing]

Wen wip

[steep dew]

How mamy hours to wipe

[scarlet spindle]

I think it's listed IN the game?

[coarse cypress]

I’m at work and can’t see the timer. Help a brother out😂

[scarlet spindle]

Me too man. me too.

[stone panther]

timer is just the end of bussiness day in korea, they usually only start updating way past it. Just dont expect to play at anytime tommorow, lol. Last wipe lasted like 10 hours

[long hornet]

It’s just shit in squire. Even with the extra damage from perks, you’re in greys to start too. Rogues will still have a problem with fighter barb in squire. Those classes just braindead easy

[feral karma]

Class balance varies throughout the game modes.

hard to solve the balance issue everywhere.

[grizzled citrus]

yeah, everybody running around on fighter, barb, warlock. people throw when they pick rogue in s2r

worst part is they leave right after they die

[swift grove]

Solo rogue in s2r is fun. Steal the blue portal, it's fun

Someone ain't gon make it

[grizzled citrus]

sure, solo rogue. just not on a team comp

[vagrant fulcrum]

I wonder how they'll change the portal mechanics for Squire Royale.
The video seems to show a blue escape 'pentagram' on the floor below/above the Boss' platform with where the loot pile is, however the final circle doesn't seem to end that way. Will it require a boss kill to escape, or will there be two escape methods (triple-portals + Escape pentagram)

[final finch]

its kind of poetic to have to loot gold pile to escape

[long hornet]

I wouldn’t say that completely, I still put in work in squire, but you have to outplay people so heavily it’s not really worth it. Dodging all attacks, proper spacing and baiting to hit them 7 times when they hit me 2 and I die 😅

[atomic cove]

Does it even have boss? I mean it's not shown right?

Looked like pile was in the middle different room

[long hornet]

If they buff the low end and decrease the high end it fixes most class problems tbh

[vagrant fulcrum]

I'm not sure how it will be received that the escape portal is directly 'under' the pile, so you can very very safely loot, knowing that the escape is by the pile

[sturdy coral]

inferno rework at the same time tho so maybe 3rd floor squires is an arena ish setup

[vagrant fulcrum]

Maybe, but Blue Portal + Pile + New module makes me think it's the boss' room

[feral karma]

Eh it could flip problems upside down, the only difference is on the high end gear could pad the issues.

[shut wraith]

You not getting AP anymore or can rank further today?

[feral karma]

Season is over.

[sturdy coral]

I think it just closed

[final finch]

yeah i guess will have to see how it is

[shut wraith]

Ohh bugger... I tho tuesday 8 am...

[finite yoke]

Escape only works if everyone is dead

[feral karma]

It had a timer when the boards closed, and I think they made a post about it as well.

[vagrant fulcrum]

Only if one team remains? That's interesting

[shut wraith]

I reckon I was looking at wipe, I dunno why I tho that was also for ranks mb tbh

[feral karma]

It happens, sorry you didn't get to finish your run.

[shut wraith]

Got atleast the necrotic imp tho so I am fine tbh 👍

[feral karma]

The most important one!

[shut wraith]

For sure!

[vagrant fulcrum]

#dnd-screenshots message
Pile is in the middle room, escape as well.
We know it's Squires Royale because they pull an Artifact, but there's a timer and zone (so not HR)

[feral karma]

Also has the zone.

That's the only place that cursed thing exists.

[grizzled citrus]

yeah, its just not a good pick for s2r unless you plan on ratting. there is too much pdr and dps choices to even consider

[feral karma]

[atomic cove]

Looks a bit like wyvern lair

Maybe same principle?

Like pile under platform

[sturdy coral]

was thinking exact same thing

[dim timber]

Guys, listen to me, Instead of making the game free, make it a paid game. Make it $30 USD like Legendary status, but discount it to $15 USD for the first week so everyone buys it. Unify everything into a single queue; don't have separate normal and legendary status queues, delete legendary status, just normal and ranked queues. Make the menu, market, and missions more minimalist and visually appealing, and enjoy returning to the top. 🫡 just a fedback 🫡

[peak lynx]

Day 22 @fleet imp @zinc sparrow @frail merlin @pliant summit

[vague quest]

ur gonna get muted big dawg

[pallid hemlock]

How IM be dancing on the games grave

[finite yoke]

How goofy you look spamming this

[amber vigil]

No news on wipe? Sry can’t login to game cuz work

[main lintel]

when is the actual new season START time

[hollow elbow]

you remindin them about something or whining about something you dont like?

[steep dew]

whens wipe

[hollow elbow]

depending on your timezone, I think its roughly 15ish hours

[spiral totem]

how do I avoid getting stacks from the ghost king? if im close enough to hit him im getting mad stacks and then he sucks really hard

[copper quiver]

This game was the best when it was squire normals and then HR was broken 2 queues, one for mid range gear and one for turbo. This was right before the F2P release.

[icy halo]

dont go into the circles on the floor, you have to walk away from gk to pull him out of them

[hollow elbow]

you gotta step away from him so he hovers out of the circle a bit, but if you go too far he will teleport. took me FOREVER to learn that lol

[icy halo]

and sometimes he just tps anyway

[hollow elbow]

YUUP, and then you think "man he has done it 2451235 times, he must ALWAYS teleport.. -_-

[waxen karma]

The wipe is tonight?

[icy halo]

when youre killing him solo and he does that it makes me want to jump off of a bridge

[hollow elbow]

yea, that personally set my boss killing back by like a year lol. "how the fuck do you NOT get stacks?!?!" was always my thought

[grand swallow]

Can they add damage results after s2r damm

[dusk tartan]

what will necrotic imp give?

[grand swallow]

Annoying to guess how much damage i did in s2r

[pliant valley]

i wish there was more randomness to boss fights. learning attack patterns to just copy a pattern is LAME.

copy/paste rinse/repeat

[fast basin]

I want to buy Viola, Some good guy make a deal?

[spiral totem]

Thank you, I will give this a try. I was just walking up and smacking him with my stick lol

[spiral totem]

you want the 1 shot mechanics on random... ur wild

[scarlet spindle]

This is correct. If they randomize it the bosses become impossible...so you'd have to drastically reduce the damage they deal. And then it's just a test of how many potions you can bring in

[chilly glacier]

Bosses being predictable is because when you get third partied it comes down to maintaining focus on a pattern while dealing with an outside influence

It’s the equivalent of rolling a concentration check 😂

[still ibex]

its giving me cant connect to server, are eu servers down?

[chilly glacier]

I think you are just getting vibe checked

[carmine lake]

Many players on the East Asian server are unable to enter the game and are stuck in a game session

[chilly glacier]

SAO?

[neat urchin]

how confident are we that wipe will be on time now that Paul is in charge?

[chilly glacier]

If Paul just sent it today he’d have my eternal servitude and I would follow that man into hell

[gusty sierra]

When is the wipe?

[dusk tartan]

7am for uk so just do the math for your timezone

[thin copper]

theres a pinned message in the tavern that should show you exactly when

[near rose]

@chilly glacier we can hope Paul isn't goin to skew up over with 12 hours of down time

[acoustic kiln]

add paladin

[lime verge]

15 more hrs and then another 5 for update and mess up time

[teal shore]

WTF, I didn't know they were gonna cut the season AP earning short. Missed out on the bandage because of this.

[stable meteor]

rip

[river juniper]

i'm literally 4 points away fml

[stable meteor]

wipe timer and seasonal leaderboard are two different things

[river juniper]

yeah i realize that now, actually i kinda suspected it, just wish each had a timer i guess. can you tell i'm a procrastinator? lol

[teal shore]

This is news to me. I would like my corrupted bandage skin in compensation please.

[river juniper]

give us AP for quests and other game modes @zinc sparrow

[timber imp]

no dirty green bandages for you mister

[teal shore]

I must feel the corrupted fabric against my skin.

[chilly glacier]

I yearn for the infection

[deft lintel]

I hope the new first aid mastery perk for Ranger scales with physical healing

That be sick, and give the stat a much needed usage boost other than ale bard

But….. knowing previous “scaling” of things, stuff like that never worked from the start. Might be added later though

[spark hedge]

game dont find machtmaking

[winged oyster]

yea

[tawdry briar]

W GAME, dont find matchmaking

[spark hedge]

yep

[fast basin]

I want to buy Viola, Some good guy make a deal?

[neat urchin]

i could legiiit see healing ranger being a thing. having someone spam blue bandies on a pdr fighter would be stronk

[teal shore]

Yes please, especially the daily quests.

[tawdry briar]

let us play the game @zinc sparrow

[loud tapir]

Anyone know the exact time for the wipe?

[tawdry briar]

in like 14 hrs

[still ibex]

anyone else cant get into a game?

[tawdry briar]

not just u brotha'

[verbal oriole]

"connection failed. Return to lobby" anyone else?

oh

[tawdry briar]

yh

[still ibex]

gg

[tawdry briar]

fr

we trying to go japan servers rn

[verbal oriole]

its working?

[slate urchin]

hey i cant join is it my trash pc or the game

[blazing obsidian]

same

[tawdry briar]

not sure we still loading

yes SEA servers r working

[solid creek]

me too

[slate urchin]

i have a bad internet too so i cant determine if its a me problem

[rose tree]

anyone getting the connection failed thing

[slate urchin]

none of the servers r working for me 🙁

[solid creek]

na its us too

[lone seal]

Its an IM problem

[verbal oriole]

IM?

[lone seal]

Iron Mace

[verbal oriole]

ooh

[fast basin]

I want to buy Viola, Some good guy make a deal?

[solid creek]

what does that mean

[brisk oasis]

yo anyone experiencing connection issues?

[slate urchin]

yeah it seems almost everyone

[willow wedge]

na servers are up

[verbal oriole]

yeah everyone man

[mild pasture]

Rip servers

[deft lintel]

Seems so, from what I’m reading in this chat

[slate urchin]

maybe because of the upcoming wipe? idk

[brisk oasis]

maaaaan

[noble kite]

when is wipe?

[willow wedge]

na is up

[verbal oriole]

like 14 hours

[brisk oasis]

east or west?

[noble kite]

west

[brisk oasis]

east seems up aswell

[neon elm]

F servers

[slate urchin]

rip

[glad bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/novabomb-don't-do-it-stop-its-over-man-of-steel-gif-3198993858304354112 my BiS arena kit saying goodbye to me on wipe day

[hushed seal]

eu servers down rip cinder

[tawdry schooner]

i just loaded in a match and killed this guy who was afk he was bis asf

[chilly glacier]

Cinder? I hardly know her!

[tawdry schooner]

free cinder for me

[verbal oriole]

EU server work now

[slate urchin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/skippy-yippee-skippyyippee-funbutton-z6z7UOgEyU0EOHTmwM

[stone iris]

When new wipe?

[teal shore]

<t:1777356000:R>

[stone iris]

❤️

[fast basin]

I want to buy Viola, Some good guy make a deal?

[noble verge]

why can't we turn in religion ?

is there an outage?

[timid wolf]

same i just got enough gold for it and its off rip

[teal shore]

Apparently the AP/religion ranking shut down before the wipe. #nocorruptedbandagegang

[olive flower]

Season ended yesterday and for some reason it’s different from wipe timer. So stupid, if they gonna do that stupid thing then they should display a second timer

[chilly glacier]

They do don’t they?

[stable urchin]

Cheaters in NA with walls rn viola bard and pulv fighter look out

On ice caves just blatantly cheating love it

[chilly glacier]

Yeah I’m ready for anti cheat

[noble verge]

wtf

this is dumb af

[sturdy coral]

they do tho, it’s in the Leaderboard screen

[fast basin]

I want to buy Viola, Some good guy make a deal?

[teal shore]

Now you tell me.

[noble verge]

Aint nobody looking at that timer

We looking at the big timer when you log in

[raven forge]

When wipe happens will arena be available?

[noble verge]

Dawg when wipe happens you need to do quests and gear up not straight into arena

[raven forge]

Obviously but how long is the wait for it to open if there is one

[chilly glacier]

You’ll have to check the timer on wipe

[heavy root]

what's the state of the game atm/before wipe? been about a year or so since i last properly played

[chilly glacier]

It’s pretty solid but people complain as they have since the first release of the game

[noble verge]

Pretty good but they still have some rough edges like season ending a day (ish) before the wipe and other stuff like that.

[chilly glacier]

It’s been my favorite set of changes so far

[noble verge]

Yeah it’s been good

[heavy root]

ah stunning - ty for the quick replies - is it possible to run solos/duos atm?

[noble verge]

Yes

[sturdy coral]

[heavy root]

glorious ty!

[uneven pumice]

Is that ask too much ? https://imgur.com/a/KlAD57i

[dusky spruce]

Last day to enjoy Bloodferno

[slow bobcat]

Does anyone know, if I had a character at a certain ap rank, then deleted it, will I still get the wipe rewards up to that rank?

[subtle goblet]

you won't

[slow bobcat]

Thanks

[subtle goblet]

well you shouldn't anyway

[fast basin]

I want to buy Viola, Some good guy make a deal?

[noble verge]

Religion turning works again?

@timid wolf @teal shore my buddy was just able to finish the season religion turnins

[noble verge]

It may work again

[turbid star]

Can I still get pathfinder skin if I grind today?

[thin copper]

times up im afraid

[teal shore]

Hmm, religion shows unavailable still and season says it has ended for me.

[turbid star]

Rip i still can earn AP but yea I guess rewards won’t work

[swift grove]

yup. the season is over. wipe is in like 14 hours

[thin copper]

maybe its diff from region to region? i cant even earn ap

[turbid star]

Idk I played a couple games last night after the timer ended and went from apprentice to wanderer. The check mark showed up for wanderer lol

Gonna try and pray lol

[thin copper]

[feral karma]

The season ended, so whatever was the highest ranking out of your characters is what you are at.

[sharp python]

When is wipe is it tomorrow?

[turbid star]

Rip ty bro

[hidden vapor]

any unemployed people able to check the wipe timer for me lmao

[sharp python]

Fr plz

[hidden vapor]

its today at some point

i think it was 8 pm est but i dont really remember

[sharp python]

Oh hell yeah boutta be an unstoppable rouge this wipe with the new abilities

[hidden vapor]

lol

not against me thats for sure

boom boom boom arrows maneeee

[faint hull]

whens the wipe?

[hidden vapor]

6 months

[sharp python]

Fr rangers gonna be broken too

[hidden vapor]

mhm mhm

[fast basin]

I want to buy Viola, Some good guy make a deal?

[winged stump]

when building slayer fighter, what do you think is best to put in your off hand and why?

Also does the bonuses on your offhand carry over to your primary even if you're only swinging with your primary?

[stone panther]

Yes. Also known as a "stat stick"

[winged stump]

so if i put a stilleto with +2 weapon dmg i'll get that on my morning star?

[chilly glacier]

wipe in 13 hours

[shut wraith]

How good is dwarf race?

[stone panther]

yes sir

[winged stump]

wild

[chilly glacier]

yes you off hand and main hand combine stats

even the armor pen stacks

[winged stump]

WHACK

[hidden vapor]

its kinda ass unless ur trolling

or fighter longsword its pre good

[shut wraith]

Wouldn't it be easier to block with it cus small

[hidden vapor]

pavise fighter

its pre much only good on fighter and cleric lol

[stone panther]

but, speed deduction also stacks. So do keep an eye on your move speed. As holding 2 weapons slows you down twice as much.

Lantern is pretty populair as a stack stick for that reason, gives a boost

[shut wraith]

Gotcha

[hidden vapor]

on a class that ur already pretty slow

[shut wraith]

Even slower lmfao

[hidden vapor]

if u run a class that needs to be able to kite

[shut wraith]

Fat

[hidden vapor]

ur screwed lol i tried it on warlock

[shut wraith]

There is plate warlock tho

[hidden vapor]

tm lock

[silk monolith]

Which class is worse bard or rogue

[hidden vapor]

bard

rogue getting massive buff

[shut wraith]

Yeahh lol on tm lock I can imagine it'll be ass 10- ms is pretty a big penalty

[hidden vapor]

for sure lol

[shut wraith]

But you got block advantage tho

[hidden vapor]

haha yeah whip out that crystal ball and go crazy

[stone panther]

I wouldnt invest in it though. It'll get nerved to hell and back the entire season. As is tradition

[silk monolith]

What buff

[hidden vapor]

watch trailer

[silk monolith]

Where can I find it

What should one search

[hidden vapor]

true all i know is imma be using explosive quickfire ranger with recurve and be a pleb

[stone panther]

#📢community-announcements message

[turbid star]

Bro I just ranked up after season ended lol. It shows checkmark on the pathfinder skin so we praying😂

[distant juniper]

Hey guys, can someone tell me the wipe time, i cant acess the game right now

[spice oriole]

Are the severs working again? Or still down

[distant juniper]

They're shut?

[spice oriole]

The game was down about an hour ago, connection error

[silk monolith]

Why did they only buff 2 classes ranger wasn’t even in a weak state

[distant juniper]

Yeah i belive they're working on it right now

Maybe in late night we can play again

[snow quiver]

how many of yall still missing 1 tear of the volcano from the quest?

[tiny jacinth]

it wipes in the middle of the night?

[teal shore]

<t:1777356000:R>

[hollow raven]

yeah for you bot'

[distant juniper]

13 hours

[stone panther]

Wipe isnt happening for at least another 12 hours. But likely closer to 20. As they usually start hem in the Korean evenings and work trough the night. And then another 6-8 hours for the actual wipe. I wouldnt make any plans until Wednesday

[distant juniper]

Yeah

[shut wraith]

You can just pvp right now in squire to riches, its fun

[delicate wasp]

When is the wipe?

[teal shore]

<t:1777356000:R>

[wind venture]

@shut wraithIf you managed to survive, how much gold do you get?

[thorny cape]

someday, us warlocks will get eldritch blast

[shut wraith]

Man I hope soo or atleast get the training hall unlocked so we can have subclasses maybe

[shut wraith]

Depends but loot rate is good in StR

[thorny cape]

cant wait for the new str with it even dropping artifacts

[wind venture]

Drop rate of 0.01?

[thorny cape]

probably lmao

[idle whale]

To high chance

[wind venture]

So a bit BS that they show it in the video, When the chances are so abysmal its unfun.

[thorny cape]

though i do wish they would add solo and duo queues for str

[wind venture]

There are already too many queues...

[olive schooner]

Hi

[thorny cape]

sure, but personally id prefer longer matching times if it means i can choose whatever i want to play

[idle whale]

Sup

[young bobcat]

Lmao people still teaming last day of wipe

2 party of full artifacts teaming and then not killing each other

[idle whale]

cringe" report them

[young bobcat]

I did

front and side and we were cornered in a dead end and both of their frontliner came at us while their back shot at us then ran away their separate ways fake shooting arrows at each other

[barren elbow]

same thing happened to me and my buddy yesterday in ruins

2 two man teams working together

[hardy mesa]

quesiton does artifacts only drop on hr or can it ddrop on normals or even pve mode

[young bobcat]

This was in duo

[barren elbow]

right now only hr

[young bobcat]

4 people vs 2 basically

[barren elbow]

same here, could be the same guys

[idle whale]

Hr, boss rooms and key roomw

[young bobcat]

and they were full artifacts viola and shit lmao

[hardy mesa]

okay needed that confirmation goodthing I suck at pvp so I cant even run hr

[barren elbow]

yeah one barb had 4 or 5 lads

his name was ' mayberemoveladlol' or something like that

cowards

[young bobcat]

really hope they get banned so they dont get to start the wipe

[idle whale]

don't worry, you'll get there. alot of people don't even pvp on HR, just gotta know how to survive

[light osprey]

Does anyone know the % chance for getting an artifact from lich or skeleton warlord??????

[thorny cape]

how long are those teaming bans anyways

[hardy mesa]

ye

[young bobcat]

14 days ?

[barren elbow]

not long enough they should be perma banned

[thin copper]

could always buy one of marketplace, thats what i do

[sturdy coral]

pretty sure they upgrade for subsequent bans and severity

[cunning sleet]

false everyone is hostile

[thorny cape]

id hope so

[thorny cape]

everyone is hostile, but that doesnt mean everyone is looking to pvp

some people try to avoid encounters

[idle whale]

If u want artifacts I recommend u do what I did and become a trader instead of gambling on boss rng and pvp

[thorny cape]

im gonna miss my corrupted heart :(

wish i could actually use it for something before the wipe hits

[light osprey]

yo

[idle whale]

Alot of people farm and play on dead maps and areas where players don't go

[idle whale]

sup my ninja

[light osprey]

Do you know the chance of getting a named from warlord or lich?

[idle whale]

Pretty sure it's the same across the board, like 0.something

luck should be working now too

[light osprey]

dang, i have killed 30+ bosses with my friend and got NOTHING

[thorny cape]

is it possible to get a named from forgotten castle without going down reds

[idle whale]

I'll teach u how to get artifacts if u want bro

[idle whale]

Yes, from rusty key room

[sturdy coral]

and the treasure room pile after killing banshee and spectral

[light osprey]

How?

[idle whale]

I'll DM you my secret sauce

[thorny cape]

im assuming the chance is extremely low?

[light osprey]

Haha ok

[thorny cape]

me too pretty plss :D

[sour briar]

tell me the secret sauce too pls

[agile zinc]

when is sprint getting nerfed

[fast basin]

Look for Viola,Some good guy make a deal?

[willow tartan]

whast the timer for season reset right now?

[teal shore]

Season has already been closed. Wipe timer <t:1777356000:R>

[vague quest]

😏 wym by that

[long hornet]

Never. Fighter is the timmy class

[elder orchid]

Season ends 27th season starts 28th

[sonic maple]

The outcries on every fighter nerf is insane

[agile zinc]

needs to be nerfed on my grandma's purse

[tawdry schooner]

idk the fact they have 3 sprint skills to pick from is crazy

and they all work on water map lol

why am i faster than a penguin in full plate armor?

[sturdy coral]

penguin has their own special sprint so ur not

[tawdry schooner]

it is faster

sprint + adrenaline rush

i catchup

+15% action speed underwater

[sturdy coral]

you’re only at max ms for 1 second atp it’s not a fighter problem it’s a Druid misplay

[noble verge]

Sprint is very strong rn after the ms nerfs

[tawdry schooner]

same wit rage

why do the two tankiest classes get 330 ms

for any duration of time

[dusk belfry]

sprint +adrenaline is not 1 sec of 330 its like 4-5 seconds .

[noble verge]

I mean barb has nothing to catch you otherwise and it doesn’t come close to 330 lol

[dusk belfry]

rage.

[tawdry schooner]

bro

[severe coyote]

Mmmmmm duration

[dusk belfry]

trech lungs noobs

lock in

ez catch

[dusk belfry]

sprint +add is 300 ms for 2 stacks of sprint

[spring crypt]

guys is there going to ba a maintance break after the wipe tomorrow?

[dusk belfry]

and the last stack your close to 320 so

i mean your def fast enough

[severe coyote]

My biggest fear is much like another dungeon extractor the rogue/ranger meta will be oppressive and tilting (especially for newer players) and hinder the longevity of the wipe

[noble verge]

Dad needs an aggression based lobby prioritization system

[severe coyote]

There are peaceful players?

[noble verge]

Lobbies need to be reworked anyway. It’s shameful you can get dropped into an empty lobby

[wraith fable]

When’s wipe?

[severe coyote]

12 hours

[dusk belfry]

no no dont worry you know anything to an extreme is going to get nerfed to the ground or a balanced nerf before ssf ends for sure

[sonic maple]

bring back lobby ques

[dusk belfry]

ssf is always like a safe testing period in a way yea new player could give up but those things will be fixed

and rouge ranger are still very squishy classes.

[noble verge]

Lobby queues are required really

With focus being on reducing them especially in lower pop regions

[severe coyote]

Let’s look at the companies track record before we start giving them our trust lol

[noble verge]

Pve should be discouraged by nerfing the loot imo, given an aggression based system is implemented

And fixing the quests

[sonic maple]

took disarm a week

that was a helluva week

[noble verge]

It’s bad that pve is the only realistic way to get some quests done

[dusk belfry]

i mean ik the track record n what im saying makes sense im not saying they wont drop the most broken skills off the jump because they dont know the scaling numbers or data etc wtv it is but i also know from this wipe they have shown there not going to leave anything game breaking in the game especially before ssf ends there going to want the game to be in the best state as possible when market is back . once people cry about anything it will probably get a nerf depending on if its valid point or not some people cry about things that are "broken" when theres ways to outplay

[sonic maple]

I quest in hr

[noble verge]

Not if your quest requires a white cerem dagger lmao

[rich flame]

with workshop when it says reroll stats does that mean the same stats but possibly rolled higher or lower or reroll completely different random stats

[fast basin]

Look for Viola,Some good guy make a deal?

[sturdy coral]

reroll completely, including gems in case you brick it

[sturdy coral]

this one lowkey easy, a lot of the Normal royal coffin areas have a static white ceremonial spawn

[noble verge]

There are more like it

[spring crypt]

how long is the maintance after the wipe?

i hope its not 9h

[grand snow]

anyone new and playing till end of wipe?

[steel delta]

does anyone know if magical damage bonus scales stinky sticks poison gas cloud?

[sonic maple]

no just check the stick

no scaling number after the damage in parentheses ()

[delicate citrus]

why isnt there a religion turn in option

[west wyvern]

does anyone know if any new big stuff is being added this wipe? like this last wipe

[sturdy coral]

here boss a trailer for you #📢community-announcements message

[west wyvern]

god bless u ❤️

[pliant valley]

Religion is Over

[plain fox]

Blasphemy!

[pliant valley]

Let the Truth ring out!

[west wyvern]

so rogue can just tp behind u fire

its always sum bullshi

[pliant valley]

It's going to be glorious!!!

[west wyvern]

always gotta throw in some bullshit

[pliant valley]

[west wyvern]

this game turning into smite with these abilites that they keep adding

[cedar palm]

Need wipe

[pliant valley]

game will be rdy tomorrow morning

maybe by afternoon

[west wyvern]

honestly i play rogue a lot and i will probably use shadowstep and rupture

that seems good

[pliant valley]

i'm going to bet ambush procs with it

[west wyvern]

i wonder what the creep changes are

[pliant valley]

ambush should totally proc with it, and backstab

with the new dual strike, LUL

[west wyvern]

i aint even think about backstab with that. thats wild

[pliant valley]

it's OVAH

[west wyvern]

i dont think dual strike will be used at all if its a 1 use ability

since most of the time you can just have high enough action speed its not even worth using

[pliant valley]

is it supposed to be just 1 use?

[west wyvern]

im guessing so

it would be insanely OP if you just can attack normally with 2 weapons and get double damage. rogue would be best class in game

[pliant valley]

it might be that way in the start

gonna use tf out of it if it is

[west wyvern]

same

well have to see. it drops "tomorrow"

[pliant valley]

i hopes it's rdy by lunch

[west wyvern]

quotes because theres always a delay of atleast a few hours

[pliant valley]

yup

[turbid star]

I know it’s past the timer but I ranked up and pathfinder skin is showing a check mark so I think we good

[oblique scaffold]

when is the new wipe starting

[pliant valley]

👍

11hrs 21min

[oblique scaffold]

thanks

[supple condor]

is that when timer ends? cuz with im it will be 3h patch time claimed but likely 6-7h

[spring crypt]

yea

there is a 9h maintance break after wipe

[scenic gale]

what time will the wipe update begin?

[stone panther]

Approx 6-10 hours before they finish

[feral karma]

🏇

[spring crypt]

so u can play the game in like 25h ?

faaaaahhhhhh

[viscid lion]

Update starts at <t:1777356000:F>. (But patch time is around 6 hours, +-)

[scenic gale]

thanks a lot dude 🙂

[long hornet]

Ayee bis. I took tomorrow off I’m glad it’s not a waste

But I’m sure it’ll be like 10 hours.

[empty arch]

whats teh collectors cosmetic reward?

[viscid lion]

We need devs to take bets from players. Like betting on hours of patch

[long hornet]

Good ol betting is nice until it gets exploited. Can never have nice things

[viscid lion]

Action for sitting.

[clear jasper]

So 7pm est is wipe, so 5am tomorrow patch will be done

[teal shore]

The squatting emote.

[empty arch]

that sucks cuz im on the rare candle holder water pot quest and theyre still 4k on market

[viscid lion]

Btw its really a little bit faster than the others. Like u have 1 in 1.000.000 chanse that this saves your life

[wispy summit]

trade jimsauce for free loot

[fast mist]

did the wipe for eu happen?

[teal shore]

If its before the tears of the volcano quest you might check that one first. Needs like 800k worth of them if you can find them.

[viscid lion]

Last quest is 10 tears. 100k+ each

[stone panther]

if the 4k is a problem then the million you need for the final quest might be problematic

[viscid lion]

Viola now = 1 tear. Tears are more then 100k now

[long hornet]

The tears and arti’s have been held by rmt’ers ever since the chest dupe

They control the prices

[stone panther]

nah, I bought the tears for like 14k a pop. People just waited to long

[long hornet]

You bought them before it was the new use of currency

[stone panther]

It has only been currency for the past 2 weeks, because people waited to long. 2,5 weeks ago you could still buy them for 25k

[viscid lion]

I dont think so. Before quest thay cost around 30k. Now its only low supply and high demand

[teal shore]

I wasn't looking forward in the quest chains. Just doing them as I went. By the time I heard those were needed it was because people complaining about the price. Too late by that point.

[zealous spoke]

I paid for Redstone on the homepage, but it doesn't come into my Steam account!!!

[viscid lion]

Im happy that I was fast enought to complete this.

[viscid lion]

Write this to tech support

[lavish spade]

wipe da shit off yo ass right naw Iron Mace

[gaunt veldt]

when is it gonna fucking wipe

good god fuck why cant things be simple

[azure tinsel]

Why would it be 7pm est? Wouldnt it be 2am est on the 28th?

[viscid lion]

They write timer right at menu. But here.
<t:1777356000:F> (This is time that changes for your timezone)
+6 hours of patching or maybe more

[gaunt veldt]

alright alarm is set for 6:30 and 7

[gaunt veldt]

thank you fine sir

[still cypress]

Hey guys, I had some ideas for innate class benefits. Since Sorcerer can now merge by default, here are some of my suggestions:
Wizard: Gets 6 spells per spell wheel instead of 5
Rogue: Traps & Locks is on by default
Fighter: Crying baby sound effect upon death or using Second Wind, this perfectly reflects any and all Fighter players

[empty arch]

does fire collossus drop it?

[viscid lion]

You can sleep longer. They need to install patch. This is additional 6+ hours.

[empty arch]

also what does tavern and gob merch give you for cosmetic

[viscid lion]

Yes

[empty arch]

8 is pretty stupid ngl

[viscid lion]

Tavern gives torch and goblin Emote.

[lavish spade]

they have never been on time with a patch let alone a wipe give it another few hours

[plain fox]

Its 10

[lavish spade]

i just dont quest anymore waste of time when you can just get gold and buy anything you want

if you dont HR quests are fire though great way to get bags and chests

[empty arch]

whats the gob emote?

[granite bluff]

Think its called emotional breakdown or something along those lines

[viscid lion]

In my opinion very bad. Its called "Emotional Breakdown" its very bad crying.

Like 2 hands on hace and crying with noices

[empty arch]

thats the only worth emote then

[wanton yacht]

whens wipe?

[viscid lion]

They write timer right at menu. But here.
<t:1777356000:F> (This is time that changes for your timezone)
+6 hours of patching or maybe more

[fallow hill]

Do we know what the imp skins traits/stats are?

[teal shore]

Wipe <t:1777356000:R>

[fallow hill]

Wipe hype

[viscid lion]

no

[viscid lion]

👍

[empty arch]

i never wipe

[neat charm]

yo let me get a refund yall destroyed the game

[wanton yacht]

I know it’s in the menu, too lazy to load up game. Thx for being a good boy.

[fast basin]

catice for viola pls fast

[empty arch]

thats sad m8, eat your fakin vegetables

[warped wraith]

So how do you combat move speed builds? Trying to understand the balance in game.

[viscid lion]

Build the same Or use skills and stuff to slow them Or use relief. Better all that combined

[warped wraith]

So no real balance.

[warm tendon]

Can anyone tell me what the SSF period looks like for season 9? 2 weeks 3 weeks?

[cobalt cairn]

i think its 2 weeks

[unreal obsidian]

when wipe?

[warm tendon]

Should be ready in about 24 hours. It wipes sooner but you know....

[viscid lion]

<t:1777356000:F>

[warm tendon]

Thanks

[viscid lion]

And 6+ hours of patching

[unreal obsidian]

@warm tendon truth lol

[spring crypt]

It’s gonna be 10h of patching

[cobalt cairn]

yeah i dont really expect to play the new season until noon tommorow

[spring crypt]

Like last time

[viscid lion]

I dont think so

[cobalt cairn]

safe to say do NOT stay up for the patch

[spring crypt]

I hope not

[warm tendon]

Hell no!

[spring crypt]

Fakk

[cobalt cairn]

as long as you go to sleep like a normal person you should be fine

[warm tendon]

It probably wont be ready 10-12 hours after the 8am reset

[cobalt cairn]

when you wake up it will be done or close to done

well maybe not if you wake up at like 6 am

[spring crypt]

I live in the eu

[cobalt cairn]

nvm you are cooked twin

[spring crypt]

It suks

[warm tendon]

prob 4-5pm at the earliest. Safer bet to say 7-8pm.

[wicked parrot]

How many of you slugs are taking work off tomorrow

[ancient mango]

wiping on a tuesday is the dumbest thing i think ive ever seen in a game besides rust lmao

[warm tendon]

Would have also preferred a Thursday or something but I'm sure they have their reasons.

[ancient mango]

or a FRIDAY when the employed have time... you know the guys who actually fund the game?

[warm tendon]

Ehh that would have all of their employes be working over time. New season requires all ahnds on deck.

[honest cedar]

I can't wait for SSF again

• the way god intended this game to be played

[honest cedar]

This. You can't expect a full team (SDF micro managing) to be fixing / patching during weekend hours (Even if they're Korean)

[warm tendon]

Same, I do miss the old quest system. Where if you sweated a bit in the first week youd have really nice SSF crafted gear to run with.

[cobalt cairn]

already cant wait for ssf to be over lol

[warm tendon]

Nooooooo, SSF is so much fun.

[honest cedar]

meta - gold - kit - farmer

• • problem with the game

[naive gorge]

what is SSF? what does the acronym means?

[cobalt cairn]

not really, id rather have a use for my gold and be able to kit up normally, having to get lucky just to get pieces you need is so lame, especially if you dont play every class

[cobalt cairn]

solo self found, no trading

[honest cedar]

Then you're playing the wrong game.

• Full max, BIS kits is the reason the player base drops off after the first 2 months
• There's always going to be high end play
• that's not the majority of players for this game

[warm tendon]

The drop off after two months just comes from people having done their things and awaiting a new season.

[cobalt cairn]

im not talking about the majority, i said I cant wait for it to be over, what are you even trying to argue with me here? you wont change my opinion of ssf, i still hate it

[honest cedar]

you say that, but when 50 dex warlocks are running around in HR with Cinders in the 2+ months in

• im out
• zero reason for me to waste my time

[short vigil]

i mean squires is popping until the end for a reason

[warm tendon]

Yes that is fair.

[honest cedar]

you don't have an opinion

• you're a triple A FPS gamer by the sounds of it
• RIP

[cobalt cairn]

i do though, you seem to have no idea how to actually read so i guess you can be forgiven

[honest cedar]

good luck with all your gold and BIS farming when the game becomes easy mode, sir

• I'm going to savour these next 2 weeks

[cunning sleet]

Hopefully the wipe isnt at 3am

[ancient mango]

and? what do we pay them for?

[naive gorge]

You saying to someone that they are playing the wrong game because SSF should be the only way to play the game, but the game infact, drops SSF after a week sounds to me like:

• YOU are the one playing the wrong game
• The game is designed to have a marked and player trade.
• That is MY opinion

[honest cedar]

cool story, bro

• enjoy your gold farming and farmers

[ancient mango]

tuesday wipe is dumb asf lmao

[warm tendon]

I'm not saying we do not pay them to do their work. Just saying that paying the majority of your employes over time isn't very efficient in terms of running your business.

[warped wraith]

You all take hobby gaming too serious. rofl.

[ancient mango]

so screw the player base? theirs a reason their game steady is declining.... they dont make it welcoming nor logical in the sense of how they do things

[honest cedar]

Gold farmers up in here, mad that an ounce of effort has to be applied to a Dungeon Crawl game

[ancient mango]

just steady declining... SDF stepping down was smart

[short vigil]

player count was up this wipe

[warm tendon]

this

[honest cedar]

I think with Paul in his Dev position, will help steer this game up a little

[woeful jewel]

anyone can help me reach religion rewards?

[honest cedar]

Ask those gold farmers above, sir

[short vigil]

I just hope they keep the game alive, there is literally no other game like this one

[warm tendon]

go goblin caves and pick flowers. 10k per game. can even be done in PvE

[honest cedar]

Agreed, sir

Ryan6DaysAWeek is designing a game, but it won't be out for like 2 years.

• I expect great things from him

[long hornet]

It will, they got millions of dollars back from the court case, and no other game like this is still around

[sturdy coral]

2 years?? try 8

[honest cedar]

He's rather talented

• I say 2, based on his pre-liminary work
• And that will be an Alpha release, not full release

[long hornet]

Even most triple a titles are released in trash states anymore

So there pushing back against indie devs making bangers

[naive gorge]

The game has a market, merchants to sell buy stuff, a trading post, items that are just meant to be sold, The most important items are the ones to STORE GOLD. It's like this whole game revolves around going in a dungeon and extracting with profit, and my dude is mad we like the economy in the game. Go play a timesink grindy game. The rest of us have families and jobs that need to be tended to, and if i want to buy gear pieces from the market to run my kit I will:

• Thats how SDF our GOD intended the game to be played

[long hornet]

Tbf, ssf is the most fun part of the game. This is a hardcore game. It’s getting more casual to cater to casuals. It’s adapting to you because you’re not good enough to do well without the market

[tame oxide]

Marketplace was the worst thing added to this game

[long hornet]

^^^

The market is a crutch

[naive gorge]

Says only the sweat that sink 40h+ a week into the game like its their full job cause they dont work nor study

[charred veldt]

Me like market

[tame oxide]

Cope

[compact sandal]

You need to bring in casual players
Not everyone has 40+ hours to dedicate to a video game

[naive gorge]

facts

[long hornet]

So what do you want, bis gear to run hr when not playing much? They have many modes that fit that criteria.

[charred veldt]

unless they add a safe pocket like arc I don't think so

[honest cedar]

Your "God" is dead. He's leaving!

• this game is better as a dungeon crawl with minimum gold influence
• if you think for a moment gold funding silly BIS kits is good for this game, you're just a lazy gamer
• but, that's okay, I'm not here to argue with lazy bois

[naive gorge]

not really, a market works just fine

[long hornet]

S2r pve mode and norms are all for casuals

[honest cedar]

THANK.YOU

[naive gorge]

i dont even want bis gear, i just want to be able to buy some magical healing for my cleric, you know how unlikely the odds are for me to get a decent healer set with just SSF stuff? near imposibble

i wont sink 20 hours of opening chests just to die in 2-3 runs

ill just buy what i need from the market

[long hornet]

Isn’t that what makes it fun? Finding a piece of gear you’re excited for and want to extract with?

[tame oxide]

Ah, so he's just baiting

[woeful jewel]

black rose or wardweed?

[honest cedar]

Just throwing out all the love to the people here that appreciate a GOOD, HARD, Dungeon crawl game

• and believe that mountains of gold ruin this game
• just look at this season - and see what happened with the exploiting and sheer disaster of the marketplace

[warm tendon]

Wardweed, there are between 25-29 of them in the first floor of Goblin caves. Turn them in to potions and put them on trade.

[compact sandal]

Don't need a safe pocket.
SSF for a bit, then open up market place like they have been
Normals and Squire are great for casuals. We can still do HR too, but, what's set-up right now is working.
Just need to address a few issues and bring in more casual players and cater to the hard core elites too.. fine line I know

[honest cedar]

Because you're lazy

• and that's okay
• but a spade is still a spade at the end of the day

[charred veldt]

I mean

[cobalt cairn]

no, the most fun part of the game is the pvp, ssf just gets in the way of that, the loop of buy a kit, kill people, sell their kits, make more kits, thats how the game is fun, if you guys wanna farm go play farmville

[charred veldt]

They can add another queue that only allows SSF items

[long hornet]

I think you do have a toxic way of explaining your thoughts in some of this but I do agree it should be ssf only. Hardcore games aren’t for everyone, and catering to the casuals gets rid of what the fundamentals of the game are on

[charred veldt]

Then make it HR and have maps on rotation

[warm tendon]

If you want I can show you all the locations. Just send me a DM.

[honest cedar]

These guys will play the game for 10 hours. Buy gold from a farming site.

• run in with BIS until they lose

• run their credit cards again

• • don't try to reason with them

SSF is the best for this game and always has been

[bitter kelp]

Need to kill frost Wyvern, Can someone help?

[honest cedar]

You see right through me, sir

[long hornet]

It is much more equal true. If it was ssf only golding buying wouldn’t be nearly as much a thing though which would make it way better in many ways

[cobalt cairn]

this guy has never ran a good set in his life i guess, its actually impossible to argue with someone like this

[long hornet]

Why is it arguing? Civil discourse on conflicting opinions is normal and nothing wrong with it

Everyone has their own opinions and beliefs of enjoyment

[vapid skiff]

What about the test server

[honest cedar]

Current generation does not understand that conflict of opinions are actually healthy

• And they can't buy their way through this with their credit card

[naive gorge]

Saying lazy to someone because I dont have 20+ hours to sink for ONE decent healing run is crazy. Do you know some of us have to work? like actual, grown up jobs, to eat and live? not everyone can be a sweat that probably has his ass shape marked into their chair. There are plenty other hyper hardcore games out there, stop trying to change this game.
-There is and always will be a market in this game for a reason.
-This is a dungeon crawler EXTRACTION game.
-Deal with people having real lives.

[long hornet]

This is a game meant to be played for 10k+ hours. Why does the time matter?

If you’re worried about time you’re playing it for the wrong reasons

You’re deflecting

[cobalt cairn]

i honestly think you are in much better faith than the other guy but this started because i expressed my opinion, which you just said was valid, and this guy pretty much said im not playing the right game, read here and the message he replied to #game-discussion message

[honest cedar]

I didn't know you were the blue-collared martyr in this discord

• you clearly suffer and should be lifted up and praised for all your hardships

[naive gorge]

this comment has so much truth to it

[sturdy coral]

if it takes you 20 hours for one kit we’re having a totally diff discussion

[cunning sleet]

I love how you talk in bullet points

[honest cedar]

right?

• dying of laughter

[sturdy coral]

market or no market 20 hours to farm one kit is wild

[honest cedar]

I find it induces 15-25% more ragebait when talking to some of these kiddos

[long hornet]

I did come mid discussion, was probably some I missed for sure. But I do think that market does lead to bad behaviors, encourages cheating, and hinders people getting better at the game. So I’m not for it personally. But this is a hardcore game and maybe it’s not for some people from the time sink. Same as wow or LoL osrs etc. don’t want to lower the player count but still 🤷🏻‍♂️

Saying that, and saying I HAVE A LIFE etc etc isn’t a good argument. Everyone does

[naive gorge]

says the dude who 5 minutes ago told someone "You have no opinion" smh lol

[cunning sleet]

I find that

• enjoyable
• intelligent
• encouraging

[honest cedar]

because they dont

• they play this game for Arena PvP

• and with their credit card

• correct, they don't have an opinion for a game that thrives in SSF dungeon crawl experiences

• keep up

[pliant valley]

how do u play this game with a credit card?

[tulip arch]

Wipe today or tmrw?

[sturdy coral]

🤣

[cunning sleet]

pay laura for 50k gold

[cobalt cairn]

the fact that you think you need to buy gold with real money shows exactly why you dont like the market, if you really have that hard of a time killing people you might just need to stick to pve

[long hornet]

He’s said some dumb stuff, you have too. If you’re a family man adult with a life and kids most see playing games as childish at that point. We all make our own decisions and have our own lives. When you’re talking to gamers though, bringing up having a life and job etc isn’t a good argument. That’s normal human behaviors

[honest cedar]

I stick to SSF and dungeon crawling

• what this game is
• you're the one who enjoys SAFE arena play with BIS kits
• I pity your glass cannon ego

[honest cedar]

He's THIS discord Martyr, SIR

• I wasn't aware at first, either

[long hornet]

Nothing wrong with safe arena bis kits

[spring crypt]

I know at least 20 ppl that play the game only bcz of the market system

[long hornet]

This chat is pretty toxic and childish lot of the times I don’t spend much time here 😅

[cobalt cairn]

you are contradicting yourself, if im only playing safe arena, im not losing any gold making new kits, so there is nothing to "use my credit card on" if anyone is only playing safe here its you, please make up your mind

[naive gorge]

okay let me explain, a healing set with not enought magical healing is ass, you cant heal enought to keep someone alive in a fight and you are not built to fight. So a healing cleric is only viable after going over 15 magical healing and above, all the way up to 29 magical healing. But before that you are trolling if you run anything less. So for me to go healing I need to find rings, necklace, mystic gloves, mystic robes, a book with magical healing. Like its so gear dependent its not even funny. The time it gets to go above that takes forever, so market makes it much more feasable

its not like a barbarian that can just pick first thing he finds and split someones skull in 2

[honest cedar]

I just took my coffee and creatine 10 minutes ago.

• I'm just waiting for it to kick in before the gym
• These kids have been helping the time pass

[sturdy coral]

can’t you just gem it?

what’s that range look like (no I don’t play healer)

[honest cedar]

I'll stick with you relying on a credit card in a video game

• ew, and gross

[cobalt cairn]

lol c- tier ragebait

[long hornet]

So on that logic, rogue and ranger are terrible this past wipe without gear and sorc and wiz. So do you not play most classes just because you need gear? You adapt, learn, get better. The gear doesn’t make the player.

[honest cedar]

give me your credit card and I'll upgrade my membership package

[long hornet]

Some classes are gear dependent, balancing is trash at low gear for a lot of classes.

That’s why I always preach fighter and barb nerfs

[naive gorge]

why dont you get a credit card yourself? you got no money? Keep up

• Get a job 😉

[spring crypt]

A geard player can kill 5 dudes in sqr 1v5

[honest cedar]

I'm very curious to see what bow dmg will be like this season

• with the need to hold draw for more dmg
• hoping classes like rogue and clothies enjoy no more 2 shots when trying to close gaps

[sturdy coral]

I would pay to see a rogue 1v5 5 squire barbarians

[honest cedar]

you're still here, man?

• thought you were busy suffering with your minimum 20 hours to enjoy life

[long hornet]

They said in the q&a they were nerfing ranged damage. Ranger is already bad in squire. It’ll prob be busted high gear mid low gear. As most things are

[long hornet]

I watched a Vincennt video doing solo s2r. He killed some barbs and fighters but outplayed them 10x over from sheer game knowledge.

He also had a bis db kit and was in a fight with all blue kit barb for 10 minutes. 1 hit 90% hp to him

[honest cedar]

A double jump rogue that knows the map will embarass most players

• game awareness is clutch

[long hornet]

Eh, kinda. Dj pretty mid now with the ms changes. You need the damage perks in squire it’s better with more gear

Dj rapier with good spacing and timing is still good but rapier not nearly as good on rogue as it was

[spare birch]

What is the hour the wipe drops?

[honest cedar]

once again, gear scaling, but yes

[spring crypt]

8

[spare birch]

8 am tomorrow?

[spring crypt]

Ye

[long hornet]

I believe 2am est -8 supposedly

[sturdy coral]

yea prob somewhere around there assuming no delays

[spare birch]

Ty

[honest cedar]

@long hornet, have a good night. Thank you for being the balance between rude chads like me and the 10 year olds that think working is a rare disease amongst people 😉

[long hornet]

Cheers g. Everyone wants to have fun. Rmt is never the way

[naive gorge]

sure thing buddy, let me go and heal you for 10 hp while the figther hits for 40 every 1.5 seconds, do the math, some classes are more gear dependant than others. Rogue for example also suffers. Try to 1v1 anyone with a squire kit. What im saying is, some clases and playstyles need gear to work. Market is a good thing. Sure I can go bonk cleric and work with almost no gear, runing smite and divine protection, but I wanna go healing cleric not bonk cleric. Thats why i like the market. I do farm my gold up tho, I have to go and kill people and extract trinckets then i go buy what i need for healer.

[honest cedar]

hilarious

[long hornet]

I main classes that are gear dependent. I get it, yes it’s harder, but not unplayable. That’s a mindset.

[naive gorge]

you are agreeing with me here

[naive gorge]

well that mindest needs a lot of time, some of us dont have that time but still enjoy the game

[long hornet]

I agree that cleric does way better with gear yes, but not to the market for other reasons

[naive gorge]

market is a nice way to get gear we need

[long hornet]

Market is helpful but causes a lot of negatives. I personally don’t see the positives outweighing the negatives

They are also I believe adding white jewelry this wipe which will help you

[naive gorge]

its sort of like the blood bank. When you go and need blood for someone, they need A+ but you have B+ so you donate your B+ and they get A+ from someone who donated A+ but needs B+ you get it?

[honest cedar]

Yeah... like a blood bank, bro!

[long hornet]

A lot of the problems this game has stems from the market. It has a lot of advantages but disadvantages too

[naive gorge]

Exaclty!

[honest cedar]

You're not good at things

[naive gorge]

its so much fun to kill someone who was a wizzard and bizzed out, and then go to the market and profis so much from their gear, otherwize i would have 0 use to their loot if im playing Figther for example

[dusk belfry]

yea that is fun but ssf is also fun and really shows whos the best

[slow scaffold]

Just say you can’t get gear without the market 🤷‍♂️

[dusk belfry]

who needs market n who doesnt.

[long hornet]

Wouldn’t that also encourage you to make friends to give gear to, and they give gear to you?

Then you get your heal gear

[grizzled meadow]

lmao

[cobalt cairn]

it shows who plays more and who finds more good gear, that takes no skill only time

[dusk belfry]

not neccesarily

[naive gorge]

I laughed at the tought of this xD

[dusk belfry]

beacause everyone is trying to get the best gear during that time which is one of the most active times, obv luck is a thing but skill is too. succes rates and never dying a entire ssf is skill.

[honest cedar]

Probably dont even know how to kill Lich boss

[naive gorge]

i tought you were going to the gym 10+ minutes ago, the coffe creatine combo is gonna dmg ur heart if you just sit here

[spring crypt]

Dayyym

[cobalt cairn]

you'd lose that bet im afraid

[long hornet]

Personally I have no problems with people who aren’t skilled never touching hr. You still get 95% of the potential in the game in just bis normals gear. But when people buy gear but don’t have the skill level to be there, it causes problems

[shut wraith]

Can you still migrate too steam from blacksmith

[honest cedar]

The only damage you know about is your high cholesterol from sitting in your chair all day, sir.

(I have a mobile)

[spring crypt]

Uuuuu I wouldn’t let this slide

[sturdy coral]

yeah I think you just gotta download both clients. check the support page on the website

[naive gorge]

idk how old u are and little do i care, but saying kiddo and kids to people doesnt make you look old dude. Im 28 if you were curious

[long hornet]

Hes a family man, sitting in the chair a luxury

[shut wraith]

Tyy

[naive gorge]

plus only in china do 10yolds have 40 hours/week jobs man xd

[covert patrol]

average age of dnd players is 40 btw

[honest cedar]

Not interested in your flirtatious remarks.

[long hornet]

I find it’s about 30

[spring crypt]

I’m 22😭😭😭

[long hornet]

Most are 20-40. So rounds out to 30

[dusk belfry]

not true but ok lmao

[honest cedar]

Trying to break the work cycle

[tidal jasper]

Bro always talking about the problems and the negatives but never actually tells you what they are

[long hornet]

I have a few times, want to know?

[honest cedar]

This.is.a.trap.

[long hornet]

Well yeah. A start with immediate confrontation and attempts to lead the conversations says that

That’s just basic psychology

[dusk belfry]

🤓🤓

[honest cedar]

Take it down a notch for some of these kiddos.

Try telling them they don't even have an opinion. It works REALLY well.

[naive gorge]

man opening a chest, killinga mob, all gear is RNG, you could find a biss wisdom ring with +4 magical healing on your first chest, or on the 200th one, its all look and about who sinks in more time. Skill has little to do with grinding for gear.

[slow scaffold]

Imagine

[long hornet]

You have to extract with it. Or kill someone for their gear and do it. That takes skill

[honest cedar]

I really think you're just playing the wrong game. Go back to fort nite

[long hornet]

Finding gear that kinda works but doesn’t, adapting to the situation. Knowing your classes strengths on how to play under gear is experience

[honest cedar]

Is breathing hard to, @naive gorge?

[naive gorge]

to be frank if you buy a bis set and have 0 skill you are just gonna gift that to someone who does have skill. I have gotten many many bis from people that had 0 idea what they were doing. Bis Gear =/= dominating lobbies

[agile zinc]

disable fighter this wipe

[naive gorge]

dont drive and text, its dangerous

[long hornet]

You’re not wrong. Then they donate them to cheaters, or good players, and the bad players come here and complain and high skill ceiling classes get nerfed. Circle of life

[tidal jasper]

This guy gives the most scam guru shallow advice ever while sniffing his own farts lol

[long hornet]

I second this

[honest cedar]

I think after your 3rd insult, he might bite. Keep it up

[long hornet]

Well. What do you want to talk about, psychology, history, reality, social structures and social norms, diversify your topics of discussion. Just hearing insults and no insights

[honest cedar]

You expect too much, sir

[mighty tulip]

when season start?

[tidal jasper]

None of the above lmao the last thing I would want is to hear your opinions. They seem awfully bad

[honest cedar]

Nice, a redirect. Almost not bad!

[long hornet]

You want to talk about your failed twitch account that hasn’t been posted in in 4 years with 8 followers?

I picked a topic

[honest cedar]

PEW PEW PEW

We've chosen to go with facts. 100 points

[slow grail]

Anyone know what time the wipe is CST?

[long hornet]

This answer will be deflection again I’m sure

[naive gorge]

killing does work and takes skill indeed i agree. The odds of finding a healing cleric to kill during first week of SSF is abysmall tho. It can happen but it forces me to play other playstyles which sometimes its fine, sometimes i really want to just hheal and backlane

[tidal jasper]

Bro thats weird do you do that to your potential partners too? Stalker stuff bro

[vestal needle]

bro

[long hornet]

Ah, a letdown answer. Why am I suprised

[honest cedar]

Person with public info gets mad when person reads public info out loud

[long hornet]

The truth it hurts no don’t say it 🥲

[tidal jasper]

Gets mad is a stretch

[long hornet]

If you were comfortable with it your answer would show it

[honest cedar]

You should click follow. Just to be nice 🙂

[long hornet]

Is that too guru answer though? Oh sorry

[naive gorge]

I like extraction games, arc raiders was pretty cool for a bit, shame the gear progression is ass. But no, I love dark and darker, its like chivalry 2 but with gear, market and dungeon crawling. Really one of a kind. I'm not trrying to change the game, i think its great as it is. You are the one who wants it to be a only SSF. I believe you are playing the wrong game. :0

[long hornet]

Maybe in another 4 years he will post again. Maybe I will

[tidal jasper]

It was a trash insult lol

[honest cedar]

PO, we stopped talking about or with you, 5 mins ago.

Keep up

[tidal jasper]

Kinda like your opinions I guess

[naive gorge]

I do like this. I do like SSF but only for like a week, 2 max. Then the market opening for sure is a breath of fresh air. Also SSF for arena is fun as well.

[long hornet]

Insult? Sir I just said the truth, how is that insulting

I have the utmost respect for your nature

[tidal jasper]

Since I never tried to be a twitch streamer it was an insult and a lie. You are kinda shady

[long hornet]

It has its ups and downs. If they get rid of the cheaters truly then the market would be a little better. But this way made and is a hardcore extraction game. They are making it easier

[honest cedar]

Actual gym now. Breaks my heart I cant tag along in this anymore.

Enjoy the new season

• and others who can't wait to buy gear (ew, and gross)

[long hornet]

Ah yes, true my bad. The twitch account attached to your account here isn’t yours surly. Silly me

[naive gorge]

I have never encounterd a cheater in this game before. Maybe they were and i didnt notice but i have never seen someone running mach 3 or flying or 1 tapping me. I dont doubt there are cheaters, i just havent seen any

[versed oracle]

They put out wipe info and if so where?

[long hornet]

Mainly esp and aim bot. Prevalent in arena last few weeks and hr

Depending on your class you notice it more

[surreal terrace]

I’ve seen the most esp cheaters this wipe compared to others and have gotten a lot of bans from reporting

[naive gorge]

dude this is a dark and darker discord chat. chill out no need to be all "im so knowledgeable". Just keep it simple you are giving good arguments

[long hornet]

Like if I’m invis around a corner and arrows randomly keep hitting the wall infront of me

[tidal jasper]

I also never tried to tell people how my opinions are better and you just lack the knowledge to understand. Kinda like what you're doing to this poor guy right now. No one likes know-it-alls bro relax

[spring crypt]

Been like 2h and y’all are still fighting

Fkin chill

[naive gorge]

this guy playing For Honor, discord chat edition xD. Deflecting, baiting, parrying and comboing

[long hornet]

Matching the energy of the other is part of human nature

[half cove]

theyre in super deep HR

[tidal jasper]

What can I say I read 2 sentences of the guy and caught a case of cringe

[long hornet]

There is no right or wrong, just perspectives, different realities and experiences. We all have our opinions that’s part of being human

[half cove]

is the wipe happening today

[naive gorge]

I think ur ideas for the game are ass, I think ur comments are funny xd

[spring crypt]

Yes

8 am

[half cove]

8am korean time?

[long hornet]

I think 2am est but I could be wrong

[half cove]

its 6 there rn

[long hornet]

Someone said it earlier

[edgy sable]

Idk guys do we bring the map genie back or just go ahead and not get nasty on em

[half cove]

if theyre working on it now its probly not 2 am but we'll see i guess. hope not.

[tidal jasper]

I agree so let people have theirs without trying to make them feel stupid. Especially since your opinions on market are horrible

[edgy sable]

Bro said different realities! LOL

[visual solar]

Prove you're real, right now

[long hornet]

My words can’t make you feel anyway unless you let them. Everyone has their own opinions

[naive gorge]

a lot of people try to stream or YT and it doesnt work out man, no need feel shame. 90% of discord users will have a twitch or YT channel with 10 or less followers XD

[visual solar]

Prove what you see is the same as anyone else

[tidal jasper]

They made me feel like you don't even play the game

[long hornet]

Exactly. The concept of reality is one that isn’t explored much anymore

Fits the woo woo category the government has put us into

[edgy sable]

If someone doesnt believe in reality you just ineterupt it as a red flag (that guy is a mental case literally disconnected from reality).

[visual solar]

Literally nothing can be proven aside from some man-made concepts like the language of mathematics

[naive gorge]

dude i read all the msgs but im a slow reader, im trying to keep up actually xd

[visual solar]

Give me definite proof on ANYTHING in reality, it literally can't be done

[long hornet]

Never said I didn’t believe in reality, in fact the opposite. Everyone has a different reality, and it shifts regularly

[tidal jasper]

This bait wouldn't work even if I had streamed something ever. Weak

[long hornet]

He was being nice to you g

[solar sage]

when wipe?

[long hornet]

No need to be defensive

[visual solar]

I ask when wipe, therefore I am

[tidal jasper]

I only respect good ragebait

[visual solar]

Learn to respect yourself

[long hornet]

That’s a heavy ask for most

[delicate terrace]

anyone knows countdown till wipe?

[long hornet]

To be you is to not be others, when being others is all we’re taught

[visual solar]

And yet, we're all the same

[edgy sable]

Can't believe they got so soft we can't send unhinged voice messaged direclty into the General discussion now

[visual solar]

Prove you're real, rust boy

[long hornet]

All the same in ways that are visible.

[edgy sable]

dang he had it for a second

[neat urchin]

Feet smell and noses run. Nothing makes sense. WIPE NOW!

[edgy sable]

I was replying to it but it was removed

[naive gorge]

im not baiting, legit wanted to make u feel better. Whatever, you and i agreed on the SSF thing so i wanted to be nice

[tidal jasper]

Bro I've been reading deadlock disc and thought that place was strange. U guys are cooked

[visual solar]

Says the reddit atheist type

[tidal jasper]

OK fair enough but I've never streamed so idk why you would think I did

[long hornet]

Don’t think people realize how much your words conveys about who you are as a person

[visual solar]

I love when the sun cooks my supple flesh

[long hornet]

I love when people compliment my grown meat suit. I made it myself

[dense acorn]

What time is wipe?

[edgy sable]

To be fair the only thing left to really do in this game is senselessly murder people and take their stuff for your own profit. Only a certain type of people surviving this game.

[visual solar]

The real you is the pilot within

[gusty sierra]

Patch time 6 hours?

[naive gorge]

rage bait is wierd to me. Maybe im an oblivious person, but i dont feel anger when someone has different opinions to mine, I just like to argument why I differ. Sometimes if they have good arguments i will change my believes. If they dont i just disagree and move on.

[visual solar]

Some people feed on pointless negativity

[dense acorn]

What time is wipev

[long hornet]

You can’t tell a fly that honey is sweeter than shit

[visual solar]

Can no one check announcements and read?!

[dense acorn]

No

[coarse cypress]

Slime girl when

[tidal jasper]

What do you feel when someone has disdain for your opinions while countering with the most braindead opinion of their own?

[visual solar]

Nothing, as you should too

[dense acorn]

What time wipe?

[naive gorge]

for real, you can read a lot about someones self esteem, intention to others and so much more information in how they carry what they want to say

[long hornet]

That’s normal conversation. That’s why you pick who you talk to

[dense acorn]

What time wipe?

What time wipe?

[tidal jasper]

That's not normal conversation lilbro

[dense acorn]

What time wipe?

[coarse cypress]

Zombie girl when

[long hornet]

Most of who people are is a reflect of social norms, friends, and family. Just because someone says something doesn’t mean they completely get what their words indicate

[dense acorn]

What time wipe?

[tidal jasper]

You spend too much time in discord chats lmao

[dense acorn]

What time wipe?

[edgy sable]

"rage bait" is probably a fallacious belief that people use to dismiss things they can't comprehend. Do they mean trolling when someone says something stupid on purpose to get a rise? "Rage bait" is like, "Im dismissing this guys statement because there's no way he actually believes that" (cope)

[visual solar]

Literally in discord chats

[dense acorn]

What time wipe?

[coarse cypress]

Mummy girl when

[visual solar]

No one knows, no answers for you here

[dense acorn]

What time wipe?

[long hornet]

Just a way to deflect truth and try to give the opinion you’re right.

[high briar]

is there's new class?

[visual solar]

A new class of people polluting the minds mindscape

[high briar]

oh

[long hornet]

All started with the Dead Sea scrolls and the lies about what’s in them

[naive gorge]

I feel disregard, maybe i would even go as far as to say indifirence. Have you tried to hit a plane with a rock? the plane has no feelings towards the rock cause it is harmless to it. Nothing anyone says can actually get to you if you have good emotional management skills.

[visual solar]

How can you so arrogantly claim the plane nor the rock has feelings

[long hornet]

He got dopamine from the reply. You’re feeding an abyss of nothingness

[obsidian shell]

how do you turn off the HUD?

I wanna get some cinematic shots

[tidal jasper]

Just came to check the vibe and see if a time frame was available and saw this gross weirdo talking about stuff he doesn't understand

[visual solar]

He speaks to his reflection

[tidal jasper]

Are u a bot?

[visual solar]

Classic response from the ones who are most robotic

[tidal jasper]

Did ironmace get ai bots to their chats or what

[visual solar]

Maybe, I seem to be speaking to one

[tidal jasper]

I'm out of here it makes me feel like I need to shower.

[visual solar]

Run away, vegetative

[long hornet]

I’m honestly impressed by your iq. You speak so eloquently. You’re way above us mortals in this chat. I’m surprised you’re still embracing us with your presence

[naive gorge]

at the end its all about dopamine

[visual solar]

We're all shining a light

[long hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/let-there-be-light-gif-14456964169168008421

[visual solar]

Lettherebelight.gif

[thorn sparrow]

Does anyone have a specific time the update will come?

[lost mural]

You need it ;)

[long hornet]

Rip gen chat

Oh he’s gone he got the attention he wanted

[visual solar]

I am sleep

[long hornet]

Just wanted vehemently completely

Complemented

[naive gorge]

you know what will actually ragebait me?

[visual solar]

God

[naive gorge]

when a rouge snaps my neck from behind after teleporting from his spawn

[long hornet]

Anything you let rage bait you

[naive gorge]

that will sure put a frown on my face

[long hornet]

That’s a skill shot

You’re a cleric. Left click him twice gg

[naive gorge]

I know, but i saw the trailer for season 9 and i was like, no wayyyy

[long hornet]

I main rogue. It won’t be that good.

[visual solar]

Let's be real, I doubt any of the one shot kills were on full health targets lol