game-discussion

[slim badge]

and would be bannable

[deep spindle]

ok like... just google how to turn it on... you really c an do this with 0 technical knowhow lmao

[cold coral]

If opening BIOS in 2026 is considered "tech savvy" then I don't know what to tell you mate. Linux argument sure, I'll give you that

[slim badge]

secure boot is a windows feature

[deep spindle]

opening BIOS impossible challenge

[deep spindle]

yeah i already said it sucks for linux users i agree with u it just doesnt support kernel level anti cheat. very few linux users here tho (i have actually used it myself)

maybe read what i wrote prior before u tell me how to kms u clown

[slim badge]

it was a comparison

[tardy horizon]

Again, theres more to it. I am tech savvy, its no issue. But it still took me an hour and a half to find out that my one storage device that has all my drivers and modern windows version, wasnt formatted to the proper type, and had to figure out how to change that without losing any of the data on said storage device. Again, at that point, most people would just say, I think Im just done with DnD

[slim badge]

if they tell you to jump off a bridge, will you do it?

others are doing it..

[obsidian kraken]

this chat is becoming terrifying

[cold coral]

<@&988703997378584596> Get him out

[chilly lance]

[narrow iron]

Even Microsoft now wants to get rid of its kernel-based anti-cheat.

[pallid hemlock]

yup yup. the game is not unique or interesting enough anymore to justify technical scuffery and hoop jumping, they have to figure it tf out

[tardy horizon]

I just went through and did it a bit ago, but when I rebooted, my PC was locked to one monitor and had horrid resolution. I've helped a couple people here whos pcs wouldnt even boot up, likely due to the same issue.

[cold coral]

This is so misleading. The only reason Microshit want to move it from kernel is because W11 is so garbage stability wise it can't handle kernel level anti-cheats properly. It's not an anti-cheat issue at all. Get informed please.

[tardy horizon]

To fix it you have to go into command prompts, and your disk management, and find out how to reformat entire storage devices, and while it may seem simple to some people, its a much bigger ask to others.

[obsidian kraken]

It will cost me $129 to buy windows

[tardy horizon]

Hell, the only reason it was simple for me was because I have multiple storage devices with windows installed on it for the exact reason of incase my one stroage device fails and I need to boot up

[hardy stump]

why would you buy free windows?

[obsidian kraken]

windows is free?

I still need a second harddrive

[hardy stump]

pirate older version, it'll let you upgrade to legit one for free

[tardy horizon]

Lol, yes commit a crime to play a game

[pallid hemlock]

W

[pallid hemlock]

crimes were committed to make the game in the first place, so its fitting

[chilly lance]

[cold coral]

There is cmd commands that let you pull windows downloads directly from windows hosted servers, smh

[hardy stump]

he seems to be fron China, they already use pirated windows in businesses
source: been there, seen with my own 2 eyes, loled hard

[errant pendant]

any1 help kill lich/warlord?

[tardy horizon]

And again, furthering the point, the fact that yall are suggesting all of this so some normal players can play, while cheaters will have working cheats up again in a month, maybe even sooner since now they have time to prep for it lmao, means that this change is rediculous

@alpine depot Hows it going for you

Did that fix it?

[obsidian kraken]

I'm an American, My Parents immigrated, are you stereotyping me because of my ethnicity?

[tardy horizon]

Yes, it happens all the time here

[hardy stump]

no, I'm stereotyping you because of your nick

[alpine depot]

I was gonna look into it shortly, since im not gonna play dnd for a little bit

[tardy horizon]

Fair

[obsidian kraken]

That's my name jerk

[hardy stump]

👍

[tardy horizon]

This is probably one of the most vile hate filled discord I've ever been in

Horrid community

Which makes it even worse, because when the amsses come here asking for help, all theyll get is smart ass responses form a bunch of losers

[hardy stump]

wouldn't even make it to top 10 I've been to

looking at you, company of heroes discords

[pallid hemlock]

its not just any community...
its a community cultivated by SDF/Ironmace 😁

[tardy horizon]

You're private discord you share cheese pizza in isnt included in this convo

[hybrid acorn]

this is not the fortnite/minecraft discord server bro

[tardy horizon]

Does minecraft have an official discord?

[sonic maple]

Relax

[hybrid acorn]

idk, but i know alot of people with soft skin who play fortnite or minecraft

[tardy horizon]

While it definitely was made worse by just bad deciions, its at the point where it feels there is literally 0 positivity, this wipe was the best we've had in terms of gameplay maybe since launch

And it was still filled with crying

[tardy horizon]

Nah, Im talking about like hard racism, not helping people with genuine issues out, and just bitching even when a great change or update happens

[proper kindle]

what community thats based of a pvp game is friendly then in your opinion

[tardy horizon]

We talking purely extraction or pvp in general?

[proper kindle]

just pvp

[stark lance]

Secure boot is bout to screw me, I have a old I buy power pc that doesn’t have it lmao no highroller is crazy

[cold coral]

Rust 🤣

[proper kindle]

yep there we go one wholesome community

[chilly lance]

Rust is friendly asf bro

They are all fairies, and Happy persons

[tardy horizon]

I'd say a few tbh extraction pvp games do tend to attract a nasty type of player tho

[hybrid acorn]

people will always be like that, we are on the internet and 95% of internet users have 0 real life experience and think they are the biggest on the world wide web. No need to cry out loud for that, make fun of em, those fortnite players xd

[hardy stump]

my guy, Helldivers 2 community has proven to be one of the most cancerous cesspoll of vile bile on the planet recently

[tardy horizon]

Dunes is chill, straftat, but thats small, arc raiders discord is surprisignly chill

[proper kindle]

feel free to name 1 single community that isnt just pure unfiltered toxicitiy

[hardy stump]

stardew valley

[proper kindle]

pvp game.

[tardy horizon]

Nah ill ususally ragebait the peopel crying, but its when they make generalist racist comments that its kinda shitty

[hardy stump]

space engineers

[tardy horizon]

Genuienly arc raiders. Yah some toxic people, but overall a chill vibe

[tribal walrus]

maybe i'm the only one, but the goblin insurance only being a % chance now is the dumbest shit ever. the old system where you'd get everything back if people didn't loot it was perfect. So when i die to mobs or if someone wearing gear 10x better than mine decides not to take any of my stuff it doesn't just get deleted. as fun as it is sitting in trade to build kits and grinding quests that are just hours of go here and kill 10 of this monster or swim around in the fucking water and bring back 5 of these... I don't see the value of the current system

[tardy horizon]

Maybe its just cause its so new, but I think its more so because its more casual

[tiny jolt]

oce servers down ?

[low tendon]

yeah

[alpine depot]

think so, i couldnt load in

[low tendon]

anyone know when we might get them back

[proper kindle]

yeah surely

[tardy horizon]

Back when it was alive, The Fronts community was pretty cool too

Miss that game

[hardy stump]

average arc raider PvE player in downed state generates more hate in 10 seconds than entire DaD population within a week

I've had a guy cry on me once, and after cheching his inv, I understood why lol

[inland harbor]

ye because there are only like 4 ppl playing dark and darker

[scarlet wharf]

so lets change this to game discussion please.

[proper kindle]

is this not a discussion about games?

[tardy horizon]

Ok, back to everyone just arguing about Secure boot and tpm guys

[tiny jolt]

any info on whats up with oce servers atm man?

[tardy horizon]

Hate the mods here more then anything else

[hardy stump]

oh, we got drunk, left the tavern and haven't noticed

[proper kindle]

chinese people are revolting since their cheats dont work so theyre booting the server offline

[hardy stump]

it.... isn't impossible

[tiny jolt]

is there a new anti cheat or something lmao, been away 2seasons im abit out of the loop

[tardy horizon]

You're a gross person, and I bet your top 10 vile discords youre in proves that further

[tiny jolt]

who hurt you?

[proper kindle]

?

you alright?

[tardy horizon]

This guys just made gross racist remarks

[tiny jolt]

are those remarks in the room with us?

[proper kindle]

are you telling me that 75% of the cheaters in this game are not chinese?

[pallid hemlock]

W game discussion

[obsidian kraken]

The topic makes me feel like anyhting I ask for help discredits me.

[tiny jolt]

ive got almost 3k hours and have been around for a long time, can gaurantee you theres more chinese players in oce than there are aussies lol, he was just stating facts

wouldnt be any issue if they werent all rmters or teaming lmao

[pallid hemlock]

on a scale of 1 to 10, how high are yur hopes that rogue wall climb looks excatly as you expect it to? for me its a 10/10, but thats because im expecting the worst pile of scuffery any gamer has ever seen

[scarlet wharf]

i am not sure i am for a rouge climbing on walls but i will see how it goes, i think when he can shadow step behind me that is going to be the problem.

[proper kindle]

what chinese people teaming and rmting and ruining a game? unheard off

[inland harbor]

the biggest problem is that the game design right now is to never play items you find in the dungeon. even better if you sit in a corner afk and wait until someone dies. the whole game loop is now not playing the game.

[twin hazel]

Know a guy a good fight build / style for Rouge?
Have tryed my frind to Hit , he is fighter.
Not really damaged.
He hit me, half life.

In pvp have a Rouge not really a chance.

Please ping by answer

[wispy summit]

yo can someone come tavern bar and help me decide what weapon to use for my biss ranger kit arena

uniques

[obsidian kraken]

I apologize for saying anything at all i just asked for help as a linux user. please do not message me anymore I will leave the server

[unreal plume]

Chill out, prob devs give more info about all this changes when the update is about tool drop.patience

[wispy summit]

need help choosing what weapon to use on my biss end of wipe ranger kit

[tranquil vortex]

Are they keeping squire to riches artifacts pulling next wipe? Seems a little silly not sure tho

[wet scaffold]

Accidentaly quit on pve while doing damage testing, I still get my gear back right?

[near rose]

U should be fine

[pliant valley]

Another Big L Patch... I'm not installing more shit to my pc for you guys to harvest data and slow my pc down. season 9 just killed the game. fk these mo-rons

[pallid hemlock]

Holy king of accurate W takes. i wish some of the conditioned shmucks were awake so i could see what their justifications are

[pliant valley]

LUL

[hybrid acorn]

hahahhaha wtf ? xD bro get off those drugs

[pliant valley]

^ that's what they got so far

[pallid hemlock]

LMAO

[hybrid acorn]

waaaah waaaah look at me im crying

[inland harbor]

this patch might just be the nail to the coffin, game already dying and now you gotta set up your bios just to play, surely new players will do all that just to try out a game with 5 players

[pliant valley]

^

[narrow iron]

👌

[pallid hemlock]

we know

wahhh people arent conditioned like me and gladly put up with Ironboofs catastrophe and tradgedies wahhhhh why wont people give into the conditioning

[azure kernel]

don't think you read the announcement, new player wont be in hr/arena

[pallid hemlock]

"new player wont be in arena" chalk and chalker has never seen better days

[hybrid acorn]

you all just delu, you guys seek the problem at ironmace and not at the fortnite players who cheat in dark and darker because they get clapped, the problem are the disgusting ugly fat cockroaches that cheat in this game because they had never a girlfriend irl and are sad living beings who lets their frustration out on other people because they got no friends

[inland harbor]

thats perfect, all players should only play the pve mode. this way the game will come back

[pallid hemlock]

anybodies fault but SDFs

W

[inland harbor]

surely only pve will make the game great again, killing hte same skeleton on the same spot for 2 million times is the most fun part about this game

[pallid hemlock]

yes.... its actaully fortnite that is the problem with dark and darker.... yes this makes perfect sense....

[azure kernel]

no like game? no play

[hybrid acorn]

yeah i dont need to hear anymore from you to just tell that you was always the "special kid" in your fam

[pallid hemlock]

W

Toxic, Passionate, Amazing, Caring, or Lovely, whatever words you choose to describe, the community was cultivated by developer decisions, Ironmace and SDF should never be stripped of that credit 😁 ❤️ 😊 ☺️ 🥰

[inland harbor]

no like game, tell to make better? this is game discussion, if you point is to let it die, then go away, you are not supposed to type in here

[pliant valley]

u remind me of a 28yo nephew i have that lives at home with his dad again bc he thinks everyone else is the problem

[hybrid acorn]

go cry in your lgbtq group

[pallid hemlock]

HOLY W

LGBT MENTIONED

[azure kernel]

make better in a public discussion? no good, make suggestion in official website

[hybrid acorn]

yes i play cleric

[inland harbor]

XD hahah why would i make a suggestion when they wouldnt even care if 20k write a bad review on steam

[pallid hemlock]

why do you keep hearing from me? dont you have some Squirrelbrain Druid Fan toes to go suck?

[hybrid acorn]

hahahahhahahahahaha xD liked that one

[azure kernel]

then why still complain

[pallid hemlock]

Arrow stacks made bigger with a reskin (Quiver, 3+ years in development😔 )

[inland harbor]

because this is the game discussion? are you a bit slower today

[pallid hemlock]

hes one of the toe lickers, yes

[inland harbor]

they just love getting rammed by hairy men dont they

they cant get enough, they would rather take it all day rather than say sth against it

[pallid hemlock]

LGBT MENTIONED

[azure kernel]

you complain game no good, i tell you its okay to leave, you say make game better, I tell you go to suggestion, you say they don't care

no good

i think your head not right

[inland harbor]

my head is only not right when i have to read what ever you are typing

[azure kernel]

no winning with this people

no like game, no play

no like game, come discord rant, why

[pallid hemlock]

suggestion page is useless boof. at least we sometimes get acknowledged by the devs here with mokey gifs. like theyre still entirely ignoring whatever might be being asked but like.....

monke

[inland harbor]

ITS THE GAME DISCUSSION XD

[azure kernel]

game discussion, not game complaint

[inland harbor]

yo micheal your helmet is way to tight today

loosen it up 1 or 2 notches

[azure kernel]

your head not in right mind

[pallid hemlock]

"you can only discuss if you have nothing mean to say and you suck sdf toes in between comments"

[azure kernel]

you can take break

[inland harbor]

"why discuss in game discussion", "if game bad, you leave, like 90% of all players, please everyone leave so game dead tomoroow"

[azure kernel]

so you spend all time in discord complain

[inland harbor]

"dont talk about the game, just leave it"

[azure kernel]

instead of play other game or do other thing

[inland harbor]

im trading in the game rn

[pallid hemlock]

W

[inland harbor]

im making your potions more expensive because you are a b

np michael

because of me, you have to pay 3x the potion prices, np michael

[pallid hemlock]

trolling conditioned shmucks like you is genuinely better content than the game 90% of the time

[azure kernel]

ok

[spare citrus]

???

[pallid hemlock]

its not supposed to make sense

[azure kernel]

you must play the game to enjoy more content

[spare citrus]

Terrible takes from this michael guy lmao

[pallid hemlock]

brother.... what more content

[azure kernel]

terrible?

no like game, just no play

not hard

[inland harbor]

yo, if you dot like michael, just leave, this is not a game discussion, this is a who can suk sdf the hardest

[spare citrus]

"You can't discuss things I don't want you to discuss in the game discussion channel"

[sonic dove]

my download for the update seemed to stall, restarted Blacksmith a couple times and it was still stalled. Tried to uninstall and reinstall the game through Blacksmith and it seems stalled on the install Anyone else have this issue?

[pallid hemlock]

i already played boof ass goblin cave inferno... what are you talking about?

[inland harbor]

the winner gets 3 blue shards

[hybrid acorn]

yo I just might crashout, I just googled my 10+ years old motherboard doesnt support TPM 2.0, if I cant play this game after update more people wont be able to play it, then game will be dead for sure sure

[azure kernel]

then play other game, you seem like you no like

[jovial viper]

its over

[inland harbor]

blacksmith is super buggy, you should def switch to steam for next season

[pallid hemlock]

i like you... Micheal.... 😉

[hybrid acorn]

game dead next season, end of my words, im out

[azure kernel]

thank you

[inland harbor]

i play faustain bargain and water map all day, i love it soooo much. when i wanna have even more fun i go naked in solo hr as rogue and only throw knifes from high places. so much fun wow (this is satire since michael cant understand english)

[azure kernel]

good time

[pallid hemlock]

what?? from high places??? no dont go there!! the crows will get you!!

[inland harbor]

you just step down and go back up, I dont want to accidently engage with another player and actually play the game

they should change rogue, so he can transfrom into rat form aswell

[golden viper]

😂

[jovial viper]

anyone knows how much is boof zirkzis worth

[tulip arch]

Artifacts in arena sound fun

[dense grove]

guys i wanna do magical power pestilence + purge shot but how good is scaling

[pliant valley]

I love how the 1st person to lash out at me for calling it an L Patch eventually saw my reasoning and un-installed

[tulip arch]

Kinda just a nothing burger patch

[leaden rampart]

Is there somewhere we can read or know what these things are id like to understand

[signal sundial]

Haven't they tried to enable TPM and secure boot checks before and found that people were pissed then because they couldn't play anymore? Seriously????

[fathom imp]

Forgive me if I am mistaken, but based on the patch notes "The average rewards in the Ruins and Crypt of the Squires to Riches mode have been increased. Artifacts can only be obtained in Inferno." Does this mean artifacts can be found in squires to riches? What about norms or pve?

[near rose]

So I'm good if I can play now

[signal sundial]

What modes are you playing?

[near rose]

Hr and a bit of norms @signal sundial

[sturdy coral]

secure boot has been needed for a while

ppl in chat have been asking how to turn it on

[hardy stump]

its StR only change, as written in patch notes

[hot herald]

sorry guys what the helly? kernel level anti cheat for the modes that you have to pay 30 bucks for anyways?

[drowsy solar]

What the helly indeed

[hot herald]

i play on linux, i don't wanna have to risk being counted as a cheater just for workaround to play the game i paid for

TPM 2.0, HVCI and secure boot

these 3 things are already cracked

it adds nothing of value only pain to players

[drowsy solar]

Ya Im a linux user too, I was so happy when I learnt this game ran perfectly, first wipe in years for me.

I unfortunately redownloaded windows and am now dual booting bruh

[hot herald]

i refuse to touch windows

even my grandma uses ubuntu

no complaints

[drowsy solar]

It took me over an hour to get w11 working lol. shit sucks

[hot herald]

so what is the point exactly of forcing this log down my throat?

[drowsy solar]

I assume its been recommended to them as the solution for cheating and ban evading

[hot herald]

you can just spoof the hardware signature

[frozen hawk]

It's like the devs are trying to end the game on purpose

[hot herald]

they got scammed, it doesnt matter how deep your anticheat runs

it's about how sophisticated the anticheat is from devs

[drowsy solar]

Someone earlier in the chat said this isnt the first time they have tried to push tpm et cetera into the game but went back on that. If anyone can confirm that would be awesome to know

[drowsy solar]

ye you still get cheaters in league, in battlefield et cetera

[hot herald]

there are games with kernel level anticheat that are so bad that people can still teleport

because the server can't do simple math

[drowsy solar]

I always have issues with vanguard and anti cheats as well when i ran w11

[hot herald]

vanguard is a rootkit spyware

[plush ibex]

Same issues I’ve been having lately wth 🤦‍♀️

[hot herald]

so just for clarity

we are putting the competetive modes behind a privacy nightmare that's a piece of cake to emulate for serious cheaters

the same competetive modes that are already behind a 30 bucks paywall

so that we can keep the hackers banned?

30 bucks is a lot of money in this economy

and they want to integrate EAC or what?

[drowsy solar]

Essentially. TPM 2.0 from my understanding assigns an ID to a device so maybe thats why, but i dont know enough about it. I also have no idea what HVCI is

[hot herald]

i will not activate my TPM

[young vessel]

I pretty much only play hr and don't have secure boot on, are u sure?

[hot herald]

i also will not enable secure boot

it just runs on linux cuz linux is effectively emulating it

if they force it idk if it will keep working

but if it won't work out the box on linux next season i will demand a refund

[drowsy solar]

Nah I dont think it will, SB, TPM and HVCI will brick linux emulation. I read HVCI is impossible for linux

[sturdy coral]

not sure, just ppl asking in the chat how to enable it a couple months back

[sturdy coral]

🤣

[young vessel]

ohhh yeah I think for a short time it was like that

[hot herald]

so we're punishing legit players while giving the same cheaters more cover by pretending they made it harder to cheat

loving it

[inland harbor]

the game is complete garbage but good that they try to remove more players

[hot herald]

good to hear that coming from a rogue main

[inland harbor]

imagine you can only play the game if you setup bios before, install obs and record every single game you play, you can not take items in the dungeon because 90% will be naked, if you ever get to kill someone with gear, 7 rogues and druids gather around to take to look while you have to heal and 9/10 players in hr are double jump rogues sitting in corners afk for 2 hours

[drowsy solar]

I quite like the current game play to be honest, otherwise I wouldnt be so annoyed at this change. This season was quite fun though I joined late.

I do wish rogue was not so hard to play right now though. As It is my main

[inland harbor]

this game is dying as fast as they possibly can, they are doing everything so the game dies quciker, the gameplay loop is insanly bad

[drowsy solar]

I think its way better than when I first started playing it years ago

[inland harbor]

its by far the worst it has ever been, the game loop is staying afk naked in a corner and waiting for someone else to get a kill so you loot his kill

[drowsy solar]

Oh for rogue yeah, i have been playing other classes and my enjoyment is higher

[hot herald]

solo is a nightmare

if you have more than 2 brain cells

and are capable of empathy

[inland harbor]

solo is not playable, with any class. i have every single class on demigod and its been the worst game loop i ever had in a game

[hot herald]

this is the gameloop of some players i can tell you

like their active gameloop

[drowsy solar]

I find in OCE, a lot of the hr players tend to leave me alone as they all are farming, but barbs and fighters hunt me down.

I am keen for whatever fixes they have in mind to stop boss griefing

[inland harbor]

solo hr= dont take gear into game, squire = dont take gear, pve= dont take gear into the game. so what is this game about now?

[hot herald]

go naked rogue in HR, wait for fight, smoke and loot/pickpocket

[inland harbor]

this is all that happends in hr

if you are lucky only 3 rogues team on you

[slow grail]

Secure boot and TPM 2.0…..That’s not good

[hot herald]

preach

its pointless

[inland harbor]

this patch will kill the game hopefully

so they will sell their game

[narrow iron]

This anti-cheat decision is practically self-destruction.

[inland harbor]

to a company working on games

[slow grail]

BF6 did the same thing which is why I didn’t even bother paying it

[inland harbor]

i hope so

[slow grail]

They expect people to fuck with their BIOS just for a game mode lololol

[inland harbor]

hte only chance for this game to survive is if they have to sell it to a company actually working on games

[hardy stump]

its going to be denuvo level industry standard in 2 years, people are fighting windmills here

[hot herald]

exactly the 2 game modes that are already behind 30 bucks paywall

[inland harbor]

ppl wouldnt even download the game from their websites. do you actually think with the new season 20k ppl with setup their bios?

[hot herald]

direct memory access

welcome to the future

[slow grail]

I loved arena to it only game mode I ply

[inland harbor]

its the only playable game mode ye

[hardy stump]

it was always to be judge dredd control dystopia and cyberpank corporate rule instead of star trek utopia, so no surprise here

[hot herald]

idk what you talking about but this "new industry standard" is a crusty little turd

blowing in the wind

[prime copper]

Wait why did IM nerf cleric ale build I barely see anyone run it anyways. Also its usually before the fight even starts so what is a slow going to do?

[weary socket]

Is arena ssf? Or did that change this season

[hot herald]

there is only one way and that is for devs to detect cheater behaviour from server side

[hardy stump]

and it'll cover everything, just like denuvo did

[young vessel]

it's the same slow everyone gets for using healing pots

[inland harbor]

they never worked on games and got no clue how to. their first "anti cheat" system was a discord msg that if ppl want to work for them and record cheaters, they get blue shards

[hardy stump]

the sad truth is the harshest solution is always applied globally

[fringe wigeon]

i think that's better than the bios settings

[prime copper]

Ow so it wasent to nerf cleric ale build. I felt like ale as a whole was so bad that the perk of it not slowing was fine but I guess they saw more people drinking al for the little bit of strength.

[hot herald]

100%

[inland harbor]

the bios settings are our last hope that they have to sell the company after next season

its actually really good

[young vessel]

it was mostly bc of bards using jolly time

[inland harbor]

in 4 years, every single time they toched the game it got worse. the best was when they just stole the game from nexon and published it

[young vessel]

they get move speed from the ale and that mixed with the very low (maybe none?) ms reduction while drinking kinda broken

[inland harbor]

afterwards they fucked it up as much as they could because they dont know how to work on games

[hot herald]

what is original game's name? i might switch

[prime copper]

Ow I completely forgot that class even existed lol. That makes sense probs need to nerf the scaling on it as well because of party time.

[inland harbor]

they stole the game in the making. everything good was nexons part, but when they had to work on it on their own they ruined it. it was never published by nexon

i wish nexon would have won tho, id rather have pay to win then pay to not play at all because the game is shit

[grizzled citrus]

it was because ale bards were just healing in front of your face with no chance at catching them

[young vessel]

ehh no one really uses that, more songs or dissonance is always better I think, the scaling is fine too it was just cancer bc they'd walk away from you chugging ale resetting constantly, now they have to play more carefully

[hot herald]

nexon wanted pay2 win hell nah

[narrow iron]

Oh, where's the motivation for free-to-play players to buy the full version now?! It doesn't seem well thought out. Locking out Steam OS and Linux just before the Steam Machine release. Great move 😉

[hot herald]

the devil can keep that

[inland harbor]

just like banning streamer before twitch drops, just to say "oh no that doesnt makes sense, lets unban them"

[slow grail]

I wish they would just ask us what we want 😭

[inland harbor]

havent seen a company doing worse and worse over 4 years, with every single patch they drop, they ruin the game further and further

[prime copper]

You can get like 30 phys healing so 5 from jolly + 30 from scaling then 5 from party maker plus 30 from scaling and it could hit like 70 healing per ale that seems busted. And gives every one on the team 35 healing if they have phys healing Atleast its on a 40 second cooldown

[young vessel]

you can get like 36, but you need max rolled uniques to do so and then you're missing a decent amount of stats just for the ale healing, it would be good but I still don't think it's broken, if you're in good gear you still outdamage the healing and they can't just run away while healing like before

[noble verge]

Another W patch

[young vessel]

a cleric with like 44 mh that sounds absolutely broken tho

[hot herald]

unconcerned windows enjoyer detected

[indigo valve]

It is

[hot herald]

what exactly do you consider a win in this particular patch?

[cold pollen]

perma quest rewards are still from the same 3 merchs

?

[unreal obsidian]

can the frozen key room give artifacts?

[young vessel]

yes

[trail depot]

yes at the same percentage of inferno

[deft lintel]

#dnd-screenshots message

[fringe wigeon]

L patch

[narrow iron]

When I bought the game, I didn't know I had to use Windows to play it. What a dark day for DaD -- The darkness is increasing...

[rain sun]

wheres the report cheater channel

[viral void]

Well everyone, if they go through with requiring secure boot - since my main rigs mobo/cpu was fried I have been using my backup -- it does not allow secure boot so if this change goes through that will be the end for me for awhile GL everyone

[fringe wigeon]

let's make a campaign to refunds linux players

[narrow iron]

👍

[hasty abyss]

what's secure boot and everything, do we have to download stuff or nah

saying that i am a window user with a normally contistuted PC

[fringe wigeon]

if u are a windows user with a modern pc that supports tmp2.0 u just enable everything and think that nothing's happend

[solemn geyser]

diabolical that they're making secure boot required

[hasty abyss]

yes

[warped thunder]

same here rip

[nocturne lintel]

This Game is dying, i got 3k Hours in This Shit and dont even wanna touch it anymore so fck bad it its

[hasty abyss]

i mean if y'all just have a windows 11 pc it's going to work just fine

[fringe wigeon]

2k here, same

[hasty abyss]

big rip for linus and everyone else

racism at it's finest

[pliant valley]

LUL

[rancid kayak]

As a steamdeck user, i feel screwed

[hasty abyss]

indeed

it is quite dumb

[fringe wigeon]

you are

the steam machine too

[rancid kayak]

No lube…

[hasty abyss]

Anti-cheat ❌ Anti-fun ✅

[pliant valley]

everybody just walk away now and don't log back in unless they change their minds

[fringe wigeon]

sorry for the bad news

[pliant valley]

there is time before wipe

[fringe wigeon]

I'm just gonna play artifact arena

[rancid kayak]

I wish but i don’t think enough people will care to make an impact. They will see numbers drop next season and hopefully they understand why

[fringe wigeon]

the players will drop significantly with the settings
specially with tmp

[pallid hemlock]

W

[pliant valley]

as long as u don't log in, ur not contributing to the player numbers

show them now instead of waiting

waiting shows them compliance

[fringe wigeon]

i will enjoy the game the time i want to

[pallid hemlock]

the devs dont know what they want. they spent 2 years on revert and reverter catering to anti-chads attempting to balance the pvp and then call ruins, where you can rush gk in 2 mins, a "full campaign"

[swift grove]

rip cheaters, find a new game lol

[pallid hemlock]

nobody knows what they want from chalk and chalker

[hasty abyss]

ain't even going to change a lot of things

[pallid hemlock]

going to change nothing, in fact

[hasty abyss]

cheater aren't smarter than anyone else

it is literally 0% effective

it's like obligating everyone to use MacOS just cuz they felt like it

won't change cheats

just fun

[swift grove]

im going to enjoy reading all the angry cheaters pretending to be tech experts today

[fringe wigeon]

only 1% of the cheater's dying

[solid saddle]

holy cope lmao

[fringe wigeon]

good try to rage bait

[eternal vigil]

theyre already all over it rofl

[inland harbor]

this will be the last season anyways, they fucked up 4 years and made it worse anytime they touch the game

[sturdy coral]

cope

[hasty abyss]

if cheater has brain cheater will cheat anyways bud

[dense grove]

even tetris have cheater guys stop

[hasty abyss]

i don't cheat and i already meet the requierement

[pallid hemlock]

youre supposed to come up with something, not just literally say it

[hasty abyss]

for the new thingy

[swift grove]

"Well ackshually, this wont change anything because cheaters will..." ☝️ 🤓

[hasty abyss]

and it is still dumb

[swift grove]

comedy gold

[pallid hemlock]

gottem

[sturdy coral]

yes it’s definitely dumb to have a live service game updated for new standards

10 years of dark and darker- no improvements

[fringe wigeon]

most of the cheaters don't know anything about his cheats bc they buy it
the people that make the cheat are smarter to go around that settings

[hasty abyss]

🕐

[pallid hemlock]

standards are to rollback cracked anticheat that scuffs performance, ironboof opted for the opposite

[hasty abyss]

• there is not even a lot of cheaters

[narrow iron]

Ironmace won't save Windows either - Go4Linux

[hasty abyss]

i've been playing quite a lot recently

ain't seen one

at least someone that killed me or anything

[solid saddle]

amen

[pallid hemlock]

its season 8 of catering to anti-chads, with a new anticheat facade

[hasty abyss]

Go4MacOS

[pallid hemlock]

check chat ^ its working

[hasty abyss]

anti-chads ?<

[wraith mortar]

is named arena open tmr?

[eternal vigil]

cringe

[wraith mortar]

is named arena open tmr?

[dense grove]

me and my friend played this game for a 3-4k hours didnt see single cheater

[pallid hemlock]

im not allowed to say the ch*d word with the vowel i want to

[fringe wigeon]

i have 2k hours, only 2 cheaters found, 1 killed

[pallid hemlock]

well, no one is

[hasty abyss]

which

[pallid hemlock]

u

[dense grove]

its just forced hate

[wraith mortar]

is named arena open tmr?

[dense grove]

hes getting gapped thats it

[dense grove]

i think its in 2 days

not tomorrow,

yeah april 19

[wraith mortar]

but arena opens in 10 hrs

[pallid hemlock]

i dont think there is a huge cheater problem, if you were confused

[eternal vigil]

great day getting all these rat cheaters out of our game. W ironmace keep it up

[wraith mortar]

so

[swift grove]

w change, W paul, L cheaters get rekt

[indigo valve]

Fr

[dense grove]

they are just crying bro there is almost zero cheater

maybe few in trios maybee

[inland harbor]

this might the worst patch the could ever do if you dont understand it

[swift grove]

[dense grove]

howw

[fringe wigeon]

how much rage baiters are on this ds?

[inland harbor]

you have to edit your bios settings to play the game, ppl havent even downloaded teh game because it was to much to download a client on their website

[dense grove]

oh my g

[eternal vigil]

the 10 linex players came to cry rofl

[dense grove]

u right hes just rage baiting

[inland harbor]

you really think ppl will edit their bios settings to play dark and darker? a game already dying?

[eternal vigil]

[dense grove]

thats not for 1 game u elmexicanoo

u need to open that settings for lot of lot of gamess

[inland harbor]

it is for 1 game

just this

[dense grove]

for example

[pallid hemlock]

no all the games, i say so

[inland harbor]

there is not a single other game where you have to change your bios settings

[dense grove]

apex overwatch 2 league of legends valorant bf

[swift grove]

LOL

[dense grove]

its already open in %99 of the computers

[inland harbor]

you went into bios to play league of legens? your helmet iis too tight maybe

[dense grove]

bro hell nahh

no

no

[hasty abyss]

99% of WINDOWS 11

[swift grove]

I cant even change my bios settings rn... my displays dont show the bios. I dont give a damn. Get the cheaters out of the gamne

[dense grove]

i knew he was rogue main

lollllllllllll

brainless rat

[inland harbor]

you cant enter bios? perfect, so you are gone too

[solid saddle]

hey man we rogues dont claim him

[pallid hemlock]

😭

[swift grove]

ill play PVE. dont care. byeeee cheaters lol

[narrow iron]

It's called Linux. Have you ever heard of Steam OS, you expert? 😄

[inland harbor]

xD

[dense grove]

😂

[inland harbor]

i knew it

bro is a pve only player XDDD

[swift grove]

weird, IM puts in new anticheat measures and suddenly everyone is on linux? weird

cheaters down horrendous

[eternal vigil]

W

[nova quest]

No, but you frustrate a lot more people than you save from cheaters

[eternal vigil]

im cool with sacing 10 linex players for every 1 cheater tbh. w update

[swift grove]

"Man, we got rid of crime but it sure was a minor inconvenience"

[nova quest]

Also you obviously have no fucking clue what you're talking about, at least on a technical level

[solid saddle]

maybe the game would have less cheaters if IM wouldnt unban them if they come back and apoligize lol

[swift grove]

bye cheaters

[pallid hemlock]

new anticheat
is actually old, already defeated anticheat with massive performance cost
???
W ironmace

[inland harbor]

im glad you are only a pve player

[nova quest]

They will not get rid of 'crime'... that's just your misguided opinion

[inland harbor]

you opinion is worth 0

[swift grove]

blocking you because you're obviously a cheater whos pressed about the changes. mald to someone who cares

[fringe wigeon]

if u are a PvE player how the cheaters affect u?

[inland harbor]

xD stay in pve

[swift grove]

you too, bye guy

[inland harbor]

hahhaha

[solid saddle]

damn okazi won he got that ape guy so mad he got blocked lol

[inland harbor]

bro cant handle a slight critique

[pallid hemlock]

brilliant question actually, im sad itll remain unanswered

[inland harbor]

i said 2 words and he went crying in his room

[nova quest]

I don't understand these people, is ape 14-15? That would explain it

[swift grove]

bye 😄

[inland harbor]

XD

he is

[fringe wigeon]

i would love to see him irl, he would be a little kiddo crying

[solid saddle]

ive heard hes sitting in gathering hall all day everyday so might be

[pallid hemlock]

he has 9-10k+ hours sitting in gathering hall. do what you will with that information

[inland harbor]

we wont see him once in the game atleast since he barely survives pve

[swift grove]

cheaters are big angy today. i love it

[lost lily]

how common are artifacts from hr bosses now? took like 3 boss kills for a bt for me

[fringe wigeon]

btw Your gameplay on twitch is ass bro

[lost lily]

fr

[fringe wigeon]

double

[pallid hemlock]

gameplay on twitch? what does that even mean? i thought hes a pve player? hes just streams himself battling the boof????? LMAO

[charred veldt]

So uhh

In S2R you can get artifacts now in inferno?

[lost lily]

seems a lot more than double lol

[swift grove]

yes, from skull key pile

[charred veldt]

No GK? 🤔

[inland harbor]

hahahhaha his first video on twitch is "ehm actually, im not going to play dark and darker anymore "

[swift grove]

unless they readded it, there is no gk

[tacit quest]

Ya love to see it

[nova quest]

Lol

[swift grove]

paul is cookin fr

fuck dem cheaters

[fringe wigeon]

no bosses in s2r, you need to open golden chest to get the skull key

[inland harbor]

https://www.twitch.tv/ApeAthetic/videos

XD

[sturdy coral]

you know you’re winning the argument when they go digging

[rocky vine]

yo guys is physical power softcapped while % phys dmg bonus is not?

[sturdy coral]

I don’t agree with ape 90% of the time but cheater cope is endless entertainment

[inland harbor]

noone cares about cheaters, its the system they want to introduce, when will you understand english

is it so hard?

[swift grove]

correct. phys pow softcaps at 50. 1 phys pow = 1 pdb til 50. afterward it falls to 0.5 and below. so if you're below 50 phys pow, build pow. over, build PDB

[rocky vine]

i see, and its not worth building % if ur not around the 50ish mark?

[tacit quest]

Ok cheater

[nova quest]

Making a lot of assumptions here

[inland harbor]

its both the same, one is 1 total the other is 1% both the same

[swift grove]

not that its not worth, just phys pow is stronger under 50

[pallid hemlock]

these are the ch*ds they are catering to with the facade

[rocky vine]

so then how is building physical power worth it at all while physical damage bonus has always higher possible rolls

[fringe wigeon]

min maxing on pve? lol

[rocky vine]

oh wait no

caues it gives more at lower numbers

[swift grove]

sometimes it does, sometimes doesnt. rings max at 1 phys pow

[inland harbor]

i bet the other guy also only play pve

you can tell by 1 sentence

[sturdy coral]

👍

you got it

[rocky vine]

im pretty sure its 3

[young vessel]

??? rings can have 4 phys power

[rocky vine]

and 4 rollable

[inland harbor]

XD

[swift grove]

sry fighting banshee

gimma sec

[inland harbor]

dont listen to the ape guy, he never playied the game

its 4

[rocky vine]

okay is there a number where its better to start building %phys or is it just 50

[trim yoke]

You mean neckless?

[dense grove]

im not even responding you anymore

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-patrick-star-jolly-happy-rainbow-and-sunshine-gif-11154688262827409004

[inland harbor]

ty

[dense grove]

ur like this

open the gif

[inland harbor]

its both the exact same

[graceful oasis]

I got a mythic gem I picked it up and escaped via portal ut now it is gone is intended or is it bugged ? I even have a clip

[swift grove]

ok... banshee dead. sry was trying to reply during phases

[jovial viper]

you cant take out keys

[charred veldt]

lmao

[swift grove]

i mean when things can gem 1 phys pow or 1.6% PDB, thats when you dont want to roll phys pow

[fringe wigeon]

All the keys are only for the current game

[graceful oasis]

why it was possible before

[jovial viper]

because they changed it years ago lol

[graceful oasis]

or no?

wtf

[young vessel]

they drop more often now

[charred veldt]

Listen

[jovial viper]

seasons ago*

[swift grove]

under 50, 1:1... over 50 pdb is better. thats the takeaway

[young vessel]

you're meant to use the keys in the dungeon

[charred veldt]

If you could've taken it out and sell it

You wouldn't have gotten it in the first place

[fringe wigeon]

yeah, a long time ago

[charred veldt]

The drop rate was increased a LOT, in exchange they made it so you could only use it in that single game

[tall sorrel]

they changed it so people actually use the keys instead of just hoarding them for currency exchange

[charred veldt]

Which is way better

WAY better

[graceful oasis]

crazy

[charred veldt]

No one be running skull keys

Because each costed like 30k

[jovial viper]

if you open a couple of golden chests its guaranteed key in every single game

[graceful oasis]

like I get it i have fricking 4 min to escape how tf am I able to loot it that fast

[charred veldt]

Now you could actually open without feeling like opening a mystery box from amazon lol

You'd need 6

[swift grove]

ask your favorite streamer how to feel about it. theyll agree with us

[young vessel]

you just gotta find the key earlier in the match, then you'll have plenty of time

[charred veldt]

Me personally

Next wipe I'll go with regular interaction speed religion

Put on the treasure perk on bard, put on the lore mastery and the other 2 essentials

[young vessel]

nah frock that blythar until death

[nova quest]

They changed keys in order to create more hotspots imo, the economy was a side-effect because it was player driven assumption that keys are currency

[charred veldt]

Run luck and get ALL the bis

[fringe wigeon]

open golden chest early in the dungeon

[fringe garnet]

Nah Luck is fake

[young vessel]

blythar on top

[charred veldt]

Not anymore

[swift grove]

Happy St. Paul's day everyone. Today is the day Paul drove the snakes out of high roller

[graceful oasis]

ok

[charred veldt]

They actually fixed it now

[fringe garnet]

Luck will never be real to me

[charred veldt]

Go watch glocktane

[fringe garnet]

I've drank so many luck potions and got 0

[fringe wigeon]

now it is

[charred veldt]

Lmaooo

[rustic pecan]

luck is literally real now as of like a week ago

[fringe garnet]

I accept the evidence of my eyes

[charred veldt]

That was the placebo potion

Now it's actually the luck potion

Before it was apple juice

Now the fortune teller stopped scamming

[nova jetty]

Are HVCI, TPM 2.0, and SecureBoot enable by default usually? Are these the same things that the new battlefield had us enable?

[fringe wigeon]

yeah, and yeah

[fringe garnet]

Statistically rn the odds that I haven't pulled an artifact in the hundreds of bosses killed and dozens of piles hits is ridiculous

[tall sorrel]

a lot of modern systems have it on by default yes

[charred veldt]

Uhhh

[swift grove]

no, not default. yes bf6

[charred veldt]

How a bout you go kill wyverns?

Like, 3x artifact chance

[fringe garnet]

Warlord + Lich + Ghost King for life

[charred veldt]

I could get a bow within 30 kills

[fringe garnet]

I don't want Wyvern artifacts

[rustic pecan]

tru 🙁

[charred veldt]

Suit yourself idk

I've gotten 3 artifacts this wipe

[swift grove]

maybe default for some, but im gona have to figure out how to see my bios. my secureboot is off and when I try advanced boot/bios button my screen is black. but I dont care cuz FUCK DEM CHEATERS

[fringe garnet]

2 for me

[charred veldt]

And none of them were "easy" artifact bosses like wyvern or GK

[jovial viper]

i got so many artifacts and chests after luck fix its not even funny, like 10+ of each

[nova quest]

Isn't viola worth like 2-3x anything else atm

[charred veldt]

So I can't relate

[fringe garnet]

Deathbloom off GK and Kuma's off Warlord

[placid cipher]

Looks like I’ll be quitting once the season ends. I don’t have secure boot snd I’d lose too much stuff. 💀 rip lol

[young vessel]

cinder is about the same I think

[nova jetty]

Fuuck okay gotta figure out how to start my PC in bios mode now. I held off on BF6 cuz I couldn’t figure it out

[charred veldt]

About cinder

[tacit quest]

Lose your esp or what?

[charred veldt]

That's gotta be the most infuriating artifact to get

Even if you know the pattern killing warlord seems way easier and faster than chipping down at the 10k hp lava monster

[nova quest]

Just farm him with bt

[swift grove]

restart and mash the Delete key for most. or you can hold shift while you restart on MSI boards. Thats as far as I got, I need to find a different display I think, mines not showing bios

[charred veldt]

What is bt

blow torch?

[nova jetty]

Okay bet. I’ll YouTube the rest. I’m assuming an old BF6 YouTube vid on the subject should be good.

[tacit quest]

Bloodthirst

[charred veldt]

._.

[silent spruce]

not many ppl go out of their way to go to collosus so its safer

[charred veldt]

Bruh

[silent spruce]

even ppl that dont know how to do warlord can third party you

meanwhile the only ppl that tend to go check lava collosus are the one that can do the boss already

less rats

[swift grove]

probably some good guides if bf6 needs it too. just remember anything that wants you to install anything is a scam

[nova quest]

Warlord is more dangerous cause of the sheer amount of people fucking with you

[silent spruce]

its also a riskier boss id say

more likely to instadie

lava collosus is more of a slow burn

[young vessel]

collosus was definitely the least contested boss I've ever experienced

[silent spruce]

he cant really just kill you

straightu p

[charred veldt]

Imo if you can't kill a boss in squire it's bad game design

[nova jetty]

100% but appreciate the warning

[silent spruce]

is there any boss you cant kill in squire ?

i cant think of any

[paper mulch]

I think they are all doable in squire?

[silent spruce]

if you're good any boss can be killed in squire with the right class

[charred veldt]

Lava Colossus is on the edge

[tacit quest]

You can kill everything in squire with enough time

[silent spruce]

you can do lava collusus hitless its just hard

[charred veldt]

Because of the shrinking arena

[nova quest]

Colossus is rough in squire now

[silent spruce]

i still think its possible

[charred veldt]

You need enough DPS

[silent spruce]

though

[nova quest]

Like real rough imo

[charred veldt]

It is, not consistent, and extremely rough

[paper mulch]

I can understand it not being consistent

[charred veldt]

specially now that they gutted bard's bossing

[nova quest]

It was a joke before the changes

[paper mulch]

I haven’t tried it since they made it so you can’t sniff his booty the whole time

[charred veldt]

The second change, made it almosti mpossible

[young vessel]

LOL the random lava spouts doing 1/3+ of ur hp CONSTANTLY

[tacit quest]

Which was a good change imo. Now its worth to boss on other classes too

[silent spruce]

that playstyle being a thing in the first place was stupid

[charred veldt]

Yeah sure

[paper mulch]

It was dumb as hell lol

[charred veldt]

If they took away the arena shrink of the lava colossus

Or at least made it so that he couldn't take away ALL of it

And kept a small space at the end

[silent spruce]

i think having it limited to 1 would be good yea

[paper mulch]

High key super excited for artifact arenas though

Got a bloodthirst just trynna build the kit now

[silent spruce]

i bought a bloodthirst for that but tbh im expecting to get mauled by kumas or wathever

[paper mulch]

What should I build it for

Yeah I will probably try and get a famine as well in my other slot

[silent spruce]

i cant wait for the 7 LAD barbs lmao

[paper mulch]

Stop the healing

Oh yeah that’ll be great

[nova quest]

Magic resist lol

[paper mulch]

Magic resist?

[silent spruce]

it could be passable if they dont get their LAD back after each rounds but i dont think thats gonna happen

[paper mulch]

I should do all the obsidian armor lol

[nova quest]

Yea you'll just get blown up by wizards and sorcs at this gear level

[paper mulch]

Wait you think it’ll reset???

[silent spruce]

i dont know whats the requirement for a LAD to reset

[nova quest]

Zirkzi sorc deletes people

[silent spruce]

if a round resetting counts as leaving a raid

[paper mulch]

Unfortunately I also don’t think stacking too much magic resistance is gonna do much because of magic pen

Hmmmm

[silent spruce]

if it doesnt reset thats good but at the same time it does kill the viability of ppl that wanna run only 1 LAD

[paper mulch]

But the mobs stay dead

Maybe in overtime

[silent spruce]

kinda silly that the 7 LAD thing is even possible

[jovial viper]

nobody is gonna build 80% magic pen build

[wheat helm]

demonlock is much stronger

[paper mulch]

That’s specifically why I am running famine too

[silent spruce]

i mean they dont get their dark shards consistantly

in arena

[paper mulch]

Just slap em once with famine and no more buff ball demon lock

[silent spruce]

once the first round is done they dont have shards unless they run predation

[meager current]

I have 40 in purple.

[wheat helm]

treant + predate and shield

[silent spruce]

it works on treant ?

ah right it doesnt count as a teammate

thats fair then

although it forces them to run caster

[meager current]

Yall are way over thinking it, everyones gonna run one shot ranger build.

[wheat helm]

caster is meta in dungeons anyway

[paper mulch]

One shot???

[silent spruce]

rangers gets countered by LAD barbs though

[wheat helm]

gonna be a lot of one shotting to deal with 7 lad barb

[paper mulch]

Maybe windlass

[young vessel]

dark offering is better for arena though imo

[meager current]

7 lad barb will not do well in arena.

[paper mulch]

When are the crossbow artifacts being added

[wheat helm]

dark offering is only +50% damage, caster is +99%

[silent spruce]

its way harder to run away from them

limited space and no doors

[meager current]

Not true at ll litterally use a molotov.

[young vessel]

for a demon with a halberd 50% pdb on whatever they already have is pretty crazy

[meager current]

I have a pesti aswell.

[meager current]

With windlass my current budget kit headshots for 150+ with max AP

[silent spruce]

glad thats getting removed next season ngl

[meager current]

You can use hand cannon too just much harder to hit.

[silent spruce]

handcannon is fine

[wheat helm]

they aren't running halberd, meta is kumas + ball so that your dark reflection does giga damage and you kumas does giga damage

[silent spruce]

its predictable

[paper mulch]

High risk high reward except there is no risk when you can swap weapons almost instantly

[silent spruce]

and a lot harder to hit

and they might still end up nerfing it who knows

[thin patio]

holy prices on obsidian are crazy and theres only like 3 pieces

[drowsy vortex]

I really won't be allowed to play next wipe bc I can't enable tpm 2.0 ? Yet the devs have given temp bans for cheating. Apprently having an old computer is the greater sin

[twin wharf]

Anyone having issues with mouse inputs after the update? the game isnt recognizing my thumb buttons anymore

[nova jetty]

Is arena still purple this week?

[meager current]

Mele is always gonna be strong but we will see with this championship. I think kit comp is gonna dominate.

[paper mulch]

What are the obsidian pieces ?

[wheat helm]

all melee classes in artifact arena are atleast 170hp

[thin patio]

cause why would i buy obsidian dark plate gemmed with one will for 3k

[young vessel]

oh that makes sense ig, I feel like cinder would work pretty well though too

[paper mulch]

I mean he did say budget

So it’s gonna go up

[meager current]

I hit 150 in purples brotha if i put on a unique set im hitting well over 200.

[wheat helm]

ball is better (zirkzis even better) because it scales both their reflection and melee

[paper mulch]

Reading comprehension curse strikes again

[silent spruce]

i wonder how windlass ranger does against full projectile damage reduction builds

[paper mulch]

Hmmmm

[silent spruce]

ap doesnt ignore that does it ?

[wheat helm]

no

[young vessel]

it does not

[meager current]

no it about halfs my damage

[wheat helm]

projectile reduction fighter isn't getting one shot any time soon

[meager current]

No sir.

[paper mulch]

Probably just fine because if you are going against a team im artifact arenas with obsidian gear on you won already 😂

[wheat helm]

the one shot build is honestly best against the enemy druid

[meager current]

it shits on frontline but projectile counter fighter.

[jovial viper]

ice cavern eu lots of fulgor and zirkzi runners if anyone wanna kill them

[wheat helm]

you can just roll projectile reduction, also all plate already has it, also fighter has a perk which gives him like +20%

[paper mulch]

What is the max roll on capes and such???

[meager current]

and in that case youd have 0 MDR

[wheat helm]

no?

[young vessel]

3%

[paper mulch]

What about uniques

[meager current]

Yes to get to the soft cap 65% youd need it rolled on every piece.

[wheat helm]

projectile reduction has same range as %pdr and %mdr

[young vessel]

I think it might be 4% actually I don't remember for sure

[silent spruce]

i heard projectile reduction worked on stuff like ice bolt is that true

[young vessel]

I think I have a unique cloak with like 11% projectile

[wheat helm]

yeah and all plate pieces already have proj reduction rolled so it isn't going to take up their rolls

[young vessel]

yes, all projectile magic

[wheat helm]

yes all projectiles

[meager current]

If that was true you wouldnt be able to gem it on them.

[wheat helm]

most bosses have projectile reduction

[silent spruce]

sounds like a good counter against demonlock

i wonder how many ppl are unironicly gonna run demon damage reduction or bonus just to counter demonlocks

[young vessel]

high pdr / mdr projectile reduction build feels really good, but u lose some other stats so melee fights feel kinda worse imo

[silent spruce]

kinda funny that it even works

[wheat helm]

maybe some unique pieces to swap in

but no full builds

[jovial viper]

my 100% demon damage bonus kit is finally useful

[silent spruce]

i wonder how demon buff are gonna be for satan

if its actually gonna be worth running for that bos

[wheat helm]

people run undead for the current bosses so shouldn't be too bad

[silent spruce]

kinda wanna get into highroller but it feels so ass to lose a kit because you ran into ppl with like 80x ur playtime getting third partied or just getting stat checked by artis

[wheat helm]

you gotta keep running HR and losing kits till it feels normal

[silent spruce]

mostly been sticking to normals and doing bosses

i should have played hr pve while it was out to practice the hr bosses nlg

ngl

[wheat helm]

do a norms run, use that gear to then go into HR

[charred veldt]

run HR in squire

[silent spruce]

mostly what i do

but rn one of my biggest issue is that i dont know what class i wanna stick to

i like support and backliners but i dont like how bad they are at bossing

[glossy talon]

Hr water map with ice mastery wiz in squire can be profitable

[silent spruce]

i liked bard but i keep running into purge shot rangers and it makes me wanna die

[charred veldt]

You guys gear up in norms and then go in HR
I go into HR and die multiple times until I get gear
We are not the same

[glossy talon]

Same

[wheat helm]

cleric is like the best bossing class

[silent spruce]

i dont wanna build melee cleric though

i find it boring

[wheat helm]

you can just run the aoe undead damage skill and do that to boss

[silent spruce]

it feels kinda bad to only have 1 ability in pvp though

no judgement or smite

[sage cargo]

prices on tears of the volcano r dropping hella slowly

[wheat helm]

i mean you just heal ur team and buff them in pvp

[silent spruce]

not to mention i wanna be able to do any boss

so purification doesnt work if i wanna do stuff like bladehand or collosus

[wheat helm]

yeah only run purification on crypts

[silent spruce]

maybe i should just go back to bard and cope about purge shot rangers

i guess ill probably wait for the next season to see what they change

could i technicly do any boss on caster cleric

[drowsy vortex]

tpm 2.0 requirement is going to take the game away from me. lame as hell. let my dinosaur computer play

[silent spruce]

probably not collosus

[blissful violet]

how do you even run the game if you dont have hardware that supports tpm 2.0? My game runs like shite as of this season

slowly degrading as the season goes on

[drowsy vortex]

Game has always ran like shit, but yes is worse now lol

[silent spruce]

i think its only hr that needed that

[deep spindle]

It's simply a chip that comes in motherboards. Idk if they checked their motherboard model but u could have s pretty outdated motherboard with an older strong gpu/cpu

[long hornet]

And arenas

[blissful violet]

true!

[drowsy vortex]

I 100% die sometimes bc of frame drops in fights greater than 6 people

[stiff sedge]

Linux gonna have a hard time now that it is finally so easy to install games on and people are switching and ditching microslop

[paper mulch]

The game in fact does have some really bad performance issues

[long hornet]

Idc as much about hr but no arenas is rough. Heard a lot of people are having problems getting it to work

[nova quest]

It's going to run even worse on hvci

[blissful violet]

GG

I cant tell if im noticing what the change to fire colo actually was, can anyone describe it?

[deep spindle]

What model is ur mobo

[drowsy vortex]

yeah, I have a 1060, just to give an idea of how old my pc is now. I could play this game just fine mostly, but now I won't be alowed to.

What annoys me is devs still don't actually ban people who are ruining the game to my knowledge. From what I have heard cheaters gets temps.

[green apex]

is satan the new boss they gonna add?

[silent spruce]

apparently

[green apex]

W

[drowsy vortex]

I'm effecively getting a stronger ban than bug abusers or cheaters, bc my pc is old

[paper mulch]

Teamers get 14 day bans then a perm idk about cheaters

Never actually got a confirmed ban for a cheater

[drowsy vortex]

Never seen/heard of anyone getting perms ngl. other than a few streamers who showed bugs

[nova quest]

Just don't do it 10 times! Or whatever the shit justification for small punishments was

[paper mulch]

Upgrade time

[nova quest]

Just in time to pay 600 for the ram alone!

[drowsy vortex]

Prob not, tbh I really like this game, but the devs are putting it so in the toilet, I may just accept their quasi ban ngl.

[eternal vigil]

probably wont be missed ggs

[silent spruce]

maybe they'll revert with enough backlash

[tacit quest]

Hopefully not

[paper mulch]

Buy the temu ram

120 dollars 32 gb ddr5

[drowsy vortex]

correct, devs fostered an awful community and have never done anything to address that. Nor does anyone realize how bad that is for a game that struggles with player count

[pliant valley]

the goal is to kill the game, they have a new line of income with the mobile game

[deep spindle]

Check ur mother..baraod model no idea why that word is censored btw like wtf. I know it's prob way too old but the graphics card doesn't matter

[shell flicker]

anyone knows how much armor I need before going for % PDR?

[fervent anvil]

you can still play norms pve and s2r without the extra stuff on

[deep spindle]

Cus it's been around since 2014 it just wasn't widely adopted back then

[drowsy vortex]

I know, I was just giving a part easy to get an idea of the age for. I will check again for tpm 2.0 but I'm 90% I don't have it. Purposely have been avoiding win 11, but I also cannot install it bc of this

[deep spindle]

The Skynet censorship in here is insane can't type mobo

[fervent anvil]

this game doesnt struggle with player count lol

[silent spruce]

no arena though unfortunately

[deep spindle]

Go in system information. Google that model if it has it

Cus u didn't check.

It takes no time

[fervent anvil]

well both hr and arena are meant to be more of a competitive area. so they want to cut out as many cheaters as possible

[deep spindle]

I mean it's likely too old but u should check af least

[nova quest]

You can get a tmp 2.0 hardware module for 10 bucks off aliexpress

[drowsy vortex]

The devs are very bad at making the game worth playing in those modes. I mean the just made s2r so much worse than it was.

Why tf would I play if the HR mode was taken from me. I hate HR, and I still won't play If I can't que the only mode that give cross-season progression.

[rancid bobcat]

when next season starts>?

[eternal vigil]

yall some scornful ex-girlfriends ngl. the game is in the best state it has been in almost a year and this update continues to improve. W ironmace

[silent spruce]

28th i think ?

[deep spindle]

They really need to uncensor the word mobo if they're going to cause some anti cheat issue with it it's really silly I'm literally trying to help people

[paper mulch]

I found your problem you forgot to look at the system requirements for the game before you bought it! Says you need a 1060 with 3gb of vram so I think you’ve been lucking out so far.

[charred veldt]

I think I'll give away a chest on my birthday

[fervent anvil]

i was playing alot of s2r earlier. and it was fun. i dont see why some people hate it. its a mode in the battle modes area. theres gonna be alot of pvp.

you cant play hr without having secure boot and the other things turned on ... read it again. i said you can play the other modes instead.

[tacit quest]

That is totally your opinion. And i can tell u, many people think the opposite

[nova jetty]

Super ez to do. Just finished

[paper mulch]

I for one love the s2r changes

[drowsy vortex]

I actually have the 6gb, it does run the game mostly okay, but if 6+ people go on screen it struggles

[paper mulch]

It’s so fun

[tacit quest]

6gb in 2026

[deep spindle]

Motherboard

Oh

[trail depot]

315 is breakpoint

[fervent anvil]

s2r been really fun recently

[eternal vigil]

[deep spindle]

Dunno why I kept getting filtered earlier

[paper mulch]

Running the bare minimum you can and complaining about performance is unfortunate

You will eventually need to upgrade

[drowsy vortex]

I loved s2r until this recent change, whole point was looting and removing bosses took away so much loot.

[boreal island]

Just removing watermap as an option already improved S2R a lot.

[paper mulch]

Are you young and don’t have a job or are you just in an unfortunate financial spot?

[silent spruce]

i kinda get the change

i wish s2r was less of a third party simulator though

[paper mulch]

Ong

[fervent anvil]

if you want to loot. you go to the main 3 modes. s2r is in the battle modes section. you fight, in squire, and get a little bit of loot along the way.

[silent spruce]

you have to play so fucking passively or you instantly get cornered by 4 other teams its insane

not to mention its unplayable with randoms

since they instarush die and leave instantly

[paper mulch]

I’m fine with the amount of teams

The randoms

[deep spindle]

That's the game. Hr is even worse with that. Its the cringeification of the playerbase to blame for that

[paper mulch]

The randoms are the problem

Running res on cleric

Insta leaves after dying

[silent spruce]

s2r is a lot worser

[paper mulch]

So annoying

[silent spruce]

in s2r have 0 care about their life so they just rush anyone they see without a care in the world for third parties

[deep spindle]

I don't agree. Hr is the worst third party shit cus everyone scared to lose their pixels also the blatant wallers waiting

[deep spindle]

People don't wait around in. S2r for the safest kills ever that makes thirding worse

[drowsy vortex]

This has been made 100x worse in the past s2r change, people still did that beore but often would live to blue, or do bosses

[swift grove]

W

[silent spruce]

i think they just need to reduce the amount of teams and make the map smaller or do the opposite

[deep spindle]

Being more aggressive is a good thing wish people played like that in hr lol

[neat urchin]

Game would be amazing if people would just understand this concept lol

[silent spruce]

where they bomb rush you to kill without any self preservation ?

[drowsy vortex]

I mean if I win 1st floor s2r now, most the time I spike trap self bc it is not worth waiting 20+ minutes to escape and reset the gameplay loop

[long hornet]

I like s2r, but it is incredibly unbalanced. All you find most of the time is fighter barb bc they hella op. Ontop of some cheaters 3rd floor from artifacts now, and everyone who dies 3rd floor goes Faustian. I’ve saw 6 Faustians blocking people last zone.

[deep spindle]

Yeah way better than always being thirded right After a fight so ure an easily kill u know what ur up against. Seems pretty obvious to me

[silent spruce]

s2r players will litteraly rush into other teams and leave themselves dead just to have a a chance to kill you

it feels awful

[thin patio]

naturalred and LigmaNudz are teaming in west HR

[deep spindle]

Also in hr there's always someone with perfect timing that just happens to be in the right spot 🧐

[deep spindle]

Based and high test I can handle a team rushing st me better than after being exhausted because of a fight right before then u can just disengage

[thin patio]

nvm im in east for some reason

[silent spruce]

that happens in s2r too

you get thirded 24/7

[deep spindle]

Bruh nobody walling in squire

[clear tapir]

Everybody’s always crying in here, bro

[silent spruce]

you have one team bomb rushing you another team right in ur back and a third one ready to third party if somehow make it alive

[silent spruce]

its genuinly awful

[drowsy vortex]

Do you even need to wallhack? pretty sure the fps thing still happens when players load in

[silent spruce]

since when do u need walls to third lol

[thin patio]

I was boutta say

[drowsy vortex]

hell s2r has like 10 modules now, if you aren't all dying in bridge, we'll still find you bc everyone fights in like 1 of 5 possible modules for the whole shabang

[silent spruce]

if you wanna win at s2r its either play as passively as possible or hope you get lucky and arent the one who get bomb rushed

[deep spindle]

I was implying people r just waiting for opportunities cus they have more info in hr not that thirding requires walls reading comprehension. Having s big brawl with multiple teams isn't even thirding to me jr's when ur already busy fighting someone else

[silent spruce]

like you have to avoid the bridge like the plague because there's probably already 5 teams on it

[deep spindle]

Cus people care too much about losing their shit it's incredibly cringe

[drowsy vortex]

wanting 2 win s2r doesn't even make sense to me either. Without the bosses loot sucks. like I said before, winning first floor just means more time before fights with less players.

[pallid hemlock]

youre only supposed to be fighting the same number of players as you have in your group, otherwise someone is breaking the rules 🥴

[deep spindle]

People go squire cus they're sick of people running all the time and want to fight ig I can't blame them. Never losing anything is just boring

[silent spruce]

i kinda like the no boss but id like if s2r had extremely buffed up gear rates but not allow you to bring it outside

but doubt that would happen

[deep spindle]

??? No do u really think ur not even allowed to attack both teams tf

That's not what teaming is

Teaming isn't everyone has to have some honorable duel lmaooo

Ok I'm done I can't

[silent spruce]

id love a s2r where artis drop often as hell but you dont get to keep them

would be fun

[drowsy vortex]

shit was just better before, players committed more to playing the mode. The mode had proper reward incentives. and it was still a "battle mode" where the whole focus was fighting quickly for reps.

[silent spruce]

i do kinda get why they wanted to change it

although it makes it a lot harder for new players to get into the game

especially late or mid wipe

since you get stat checked by geared ppl 24/7

im guessing they want s2r to feel more like arena in a way ?

not sure

[drowsy vortex]

I don't think new players are getting in to this. Can't even convince them to try now. The old clips of the hayday are too old.

The games new-player experience may be the worst of all current games

[boreal island]

I kinda feel like people are committed more now since you have to survive all the way to inferno. At the same time maybe its a bit less accessible as a starter mode and can be rough when a teammate leaves/dies without being resurrectable

[pallid hemlock]

it effectively is tho. with the rules they put in place and otherwise fundementally boof game design, pretty much