game-discussion

[clever wolf]

what is the point of squires to riches isnt loot garbage?

[sturdy coral]

ppl swear up and down it’s a massive problem but I’ve seen blatant cheats just 1 time

[clever wolf]

go hr u find teams rushing you with esp

[sturdy coral]

they juiced it to match the increased difficulty

[clever wolf]

i literally got 4people banned for teaming in duos against me

[sturdy coral]

teaming sure I guess I was thinking cheating like hacks lol

[clever wolf]

they see throught walls and they see ur artifacts and they rush you

[fiery sigil]

hi guys im new, i have a question: can i pull an artifact out of the gold pile in colosseum in crypts hr?

[clever wolf]

no

only key rooms or boss piles

[rotund acorn]

Hello!

[feral karma]

The Main game is a lot better than the mobile version, and it doesn't have a lot of the pay to win features.

[wet dust]

does the spellweaver spell casting buff persist after i switch weapons? to for example my hands on sorc

[fiery sigil]

can i get double chest from that?

[vague quest]

you can get a chest from any pile

[clever wolf]

yes i just got one xD

[fiery sigil]

but only in high roller right?

[vague quest]

ive gotten a chest from norms

and theres clips of people pulling chests from adventure

[fiery sigil]

damn.... thanks

[clever wolf]

i think luck increases chest pulls a lot

now that they fixed it

[vague quest]

only took em fuqn 3 years

[worthy bolt]

Chat can anyone confirm I get multiple pots and bags if I farm the seasonal rewards in more than one character?

[vague quest]

you do not

[turbid star]

When does hr season end. I wanna farm that skin haha

[feral karma]

Season Timer is 15 days, 17 hours.

[pseudo blaze]

is there a way to get potions of clarity/invisibility aside from trading with players or looting in a dungeon?

like a consistent way to get a lot of them?

[flat nymph]

Clarity you can craft from alchemist.

[vague quest]

you can craft them

[pseudo blaze]

ah k ty just need to keep questing I think

[turbid star]

Oh that’s light work thanks so much!

[feral karma]

Yeah you have plenty of time, just try not to leave it until last minute incase something comes up. 🙂

Also Arena has rewards this season, if you want to try and get those as well. The season timer for Arena is 7 Days, and 11 hours.

[lofty loom]

How is this game in the big 26

[worthy bolt]

People were saying that in the past season they got multiple rewards so I thought it could have changed. But i couldnt find confirmations

[feral karma]

The game is doing well, the updates have been good, and we have been getting a lot of new content, and we just had a Q&A yesterday that talked about the future and upcoming content.

[surreal arch]

So StR is now more played than before the change from the casual quick in quick out?

[feral karma]

What do you mean?

[surreal arch]

I would love to see statistics if as you said "game is doing well and updates have been good".
As I would say last couple of updates were not good, the mode that was most fun (to me) and most fair (as everyone starts at same level of gear..) became ... meatgrinder trash almost to me.

Felt like someone decided to push "HR" into "StR" in a way.

Mentioned statistic.. about if people play it more or less than before.
With longer ques, from seconds to minutes sometimes.. it does not feel like it was positive.

[feral karma]

You could check steam logs, or any other steam stat tracker.

We are barely two weeks away from wipe and the player numbers are holding strong.

Player retention is a lot better.

[surreal arch]

Well it is far from 50k game had before, but ya compared to previous season it is more stable.
But I'm talking about the "good patch", not exactly "season" and change to specific mode.
Can you see real numbers on that? There is no steam statistic for that.
If the "good patch" forced people from one mode to other, or if it actually got people to play it more.

[jaunty mantle]

can anyone help me kill wyvern for quest. i can pay

[feral karma]

Would you be interested in learning to kill wyvern instead?

[jaunty mantle]

no

[feral karma]

Alright.

[surreal arch]

That is a bit sad to be frank O.o
It is.. I would say one of the easier bosses.
Cheesable by warlock/Sorcs quite well. (should have been answer to the "no" ) 😄

[subtle goblet]

50 bucks irl and i'll do it

[feral karma]

Everyone starts somewhere, it takes time to learn bosses and farm them reliably.

[surreal arch]

You never know when will you meet a dragon to deal with them.

[jaunty mantle]

game feels bad af. i dont want to play it. just want to finish quests for cosmetics

[feral karma]

Did you mean real world money?

[jaunty mantle]

i learnt spectral night and warlord this wipe. thats more than enough

[jaunty mantle]

no. i can give spectral bag or something

[surreal arch]

And are you going to answer about the numbers of people playing StR before and after the "big change"? 😄
Are there some real statistics about that?

[feral karma]

That’s awesome! 🙂

[surreal arch]

Oh.. I can really respect that.. dragon is way easier than both you mentioned.. dayum. With what did you kill those?

[jaunty mantle]

barbarian

i dont play ice map thats why i skipped the dragon

[feral karma]

They might have internal data, I am unsure. I don’t play S2R very often but my queues didn’t seem to take very long. What server were you playing on, and were you queuing solo or filling?

[surreal arch]

Barb? Not even fighter or lock to use longsword tactic..
Ya I can understand why you skip frost map, it is generally annoying for melee classes.
Quite doable for anyone with fire spells to get past 99% of mobs.

[jaunty mantle]

yes sir. only time i used fighter parry is for stingray and torch skin

[surreal arch]

Central Europe - filling
Before change I had generally 15-25ish sec long ques.. today I waited 4 times for over 3 min.. just to be blocked in one zone... no boss to fight in lower floors that noone joined or alt F4 after dealing with top floor..

Whole damn experience sucks and can't even play the mode for "I have some time to play, I can go once or twice to Ruins and just get out" Now if you intend to finish one session.. you need 30+min at minimum as you cannot leave the map.. just .. annoying, adding annoying things -_-

[feral karma]

Ah okay, I have never played on Central Europe, I wish they didn’t remove bosses from S2R. I am hoping they change that.

[feral karma]

Yeah, I get that I honestly enjoyed squire lobbies when we had them, I understand it sucks being locked into three floors with a mosh pit at the end.

[surreal arch]

Ya.. from the mode that kept me playing every day.. to let me skip few days already -_-
Got perfect roll on 3 stats for boots in the inferno module last time, was so happy.. buut i was solo and portal for 3 people was.. in room with 3 people.. so I had to just chuck it into dark corner before trying and failing at 😄 getting at least one..

but hey.. cleric fighter heal druid vs 1 lock, I had a chance I guess...

[native iris]

the fps drops on new squires to ritches ruins is crazy

[peak lynx]

Fr

[teal shore]

I think stop playing it. Surely they did it end of season to test if player count dropped after the changes....

[tawny fulcrum]

what did you do to my game.

[peak lynx]

Wow ur almost as good as the devs at making bad ideas

[supple vector]

coming back at the game, whats the current meta like kinda?

[swift grove]

if you want to loot and extract, just run HR In squire kit dude

[sturdy coral]

new squires is awesome but ppl aren't ready for it. my teammates die right away and just leave the match when we got 2 more layers to go

[swift grove]

if you just want pvp, you dont need portals

[sturdy coral]

ur not very good at pvp if u die at the first encounter

new squire is giving a lot of friction bc it re-introduces something we've been missing for years now, a rapid pacing to the dungeon

[peak lynx]

Tbh I like complaining in chat but literally just don’t pick fights u can’t win. Didn’t yo daddy ever teach u that. Don’t go around hitting a bunch of mobs. And yes the rogue mechanic of dumping mobs is super cringe but that is like the whole niche of rogue. I think rogue should be nerfed a little as far as bleed damage is concerned. But the invis is fine. Mobs agro to whoever has done the most dps to them within a set amount of time. Also mobs will deagro off you if u reach a certain distance from them (usually 2-3 rooms away) also make sure to close doors on aggrod mobs as over half of them don’t have the strength to destroy doors.

Warlock really strong if ur playing torture mastery and just running around in light armor spamming. Any other playstyle, yea warlock gets nerfed or reworked almost every season.

Depends what class your playing but sounds about balanced

[harsh bear]

Is there talk about co-op?

[swift grove]

you mean crossplay? or like... non PVP? we have PVE mode and they said crossplay someday

[peak lynx]

@fleet imp DAY 8! Revert squire! Bring back random map Que!

[harsh bear]

I mean like a duo experience, not sure what the clear definition of crossplay is to be honest😅

Same pve game but playing with ur friend

[swift grove]

you can party up with up to 2 friends for PVE tho

it is the same as like normals but with lower loot quality

[blissful valve]

hey been out of the game for a while now and i just restarted yesterday and i dont understand why i cant fully heal with my warlock with the curses..

[swift grove]

you can only heal red missing health, not empty missing health. like a bandage

bring potions and warlock still works fine

[blissful valve]

ok is it more effective with life drain and hydra or curse mastery stay a thing

[swift grove]

people play both still

[blissful valve]

ok thx man

[swift grove]

if you DO switch to life drain, remember its magic damage based, not magic healing based

[peak lynx]

nerged the heck out of it. u need vampirism plus hydra heal plus lots of magic pen to make it do the thing

[peak lynx]

@fleet imp at least give me a monkey gif or ima start tagging as many people at the top of the player list every day as i can

[fleet imp]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-tease-monkey-surprise-startle-gif-16127397

[peak lynx]

thanks

[noble verge]

You gotta drink a pot now that’s literally it

[opal schooner]

hey yall hows the game feel nowadays? Should i re-download this?

[devout hull]

barb fighter meta as usual, but it's pretty good

[opal schooner]

i do enjoy a good melee

[pseudo whale]

does anyone know if the lobby music for the emberforge hall lobby skin is the same as the one in the showcase?

[sturdy coral]

No I don’t have any music in that

[tawny shore]

Hello chatters, how good is melee sorc atm. Prob gonna get back into DaD and wanna try smth new

[oak geyser]

whats the cheapest class to build an arena kit on?

[eternal oxide]

Can someone tell Paul to make rouges rupture and cutthroat on a timer kinda how they did reckless and Achilles please and thank you

[eternal bough]

anybody know illusiory price rn? none on market but not really popular so no way its above 100k right?

[charred cosmos]

Can anyone tell me which merchant quests are for the new unique rewards? And what are the rewards exactly?

[jaunty mantle]

can anyone help me kill wyvern. i can pay spectral bag or kill warlord in return

[jaunty mantle]

collector tavern goblin

[swift grove]

if theres none on the market, its over 100k

[uncut mulch]

What can melt fighters ?
Each lobby is filled with 70% all armorured fighters
Just now watched 3 of them fight each other for 2 minutes

[swift grove]

sorc > wiz > reckless barb

[pseudo whale]

I was trying to learn it, I know its attacks now its just a matter of not panicking. Want to learn it together until some bard comes along and kills it?

[keen mauve]

Bonk wiz

[wicked parrot]

Which questline gets the sit emote

[jaunty mantle]

come portuguese gathering hall

[uncut mulch]

What about clerics ?

[fervent anvil]

anything that can do magic dmg

[uncut mulch]

Aight

[pseudo whale]

Tavern master, Collector, and goblin merchant always have emotes each season, the spin the bottle one is from tavern master

[lyric bough]

the perk "Melt" on wizard. also, wizards

[wicked parrot]

Just asking if anyone knows where the new sit emote comes from

[jaunty mantle]

i queued solo. i can inv you after if you up

[pseudo whale]

yeah, from the tavern master

[pseudo whale]

kk ill be in duo 159

[wet temple]

NERF ROGUE!

[pure trout]

Bro just played HR Crypts 4 Rogues in 1 match

its getting ridiculous

[pseudo whale]

Does goblin merchant always grab your gear for you regardless of affinity in PVE mode?

[gilded laurel]

so like, was the bard changes a buff? if anyone knows

[feral karma]

Final quest cosmetic rewards
Collector: Squat Rest
Tavern Master: Toxic Torch
Goblin Merchant: Emotional Breakdown

[languid pumice]

when wipe when wipe

when wipe when wipe when wipe when wipe when wipe when wipe

[feral karma]

April 28th is the start of the new season, with a chance that they move it to April 27th.

That's inappropriate.

[vague quest]

<@&988703997378584596>

automod evading + slur

[feral karma]

I will never understand why discord refuses to allow me to ping a warden.

[vague quest]

skill issue fr

[feral karma]

Honestly, that is probably it.

😂

[eternal bough]

Because there is many people with warden in their name discord prefers showing that, to actually properly ping you need to write it out literally the same way and instead of hitting enter you just hit space at the end so just write @ Warden (without the space inbetween @ & W)

[sullen anchor]

^

[feral karma]

Thanks, I have learned something new.

[sullen anchor]

theres a guy who’s name is just warden as well

so he gets pinged a lot lol

[feral karma]

I wonder what his notifications look like.

[sullen anchor]

very chaotic

and random

[vague quest]

yeah no i like to ping that guy on purpose

@fallen schooner wsg

(he never responds) 😔

[rustic pecan]

s2r has artifacts now? oh wow it does very interesting

[jaunty mantle]

can anyone help me kill wyvern. i can pay

[short sleet]

this link to wardenthecorrupt#0000

I actually don’t know now to ping a specific role on mobile

[vague quest]

cant

discord devs are ass

[short sleet]

Like type in at warden will always link to that poor guy

[fervent anvil]

could just get everyone named warden to change their name in this server. idk how well that would go tho

[lone seal]

when is the wipe?

[fervent anvil]

28th

[bold pier]

damn does the pourin one out not come with out a lobby emote like the perfect brew

lammmmeeeee

[chilly idol]

this game still garbage?

[devout hull]

no

[bold pier]

nah games solid

[paper vault]

Where can I see my stats or did they get rid of that?

[paper vault]

Like kills and deaths

[pallid hemlock]

exactly where you expect it is

[abstract berry]

hey guys, i haven't played in 3 years, can i link my blacksmith acc to steam now?

[elfin sky]

1 in 20 games lands in a lobby without cheaters in the arena. The developermoron, start doing something about wallhacks and aimbots. EU servers. TY

[feral karma]

Do you have any recordings of any cheating?

[elfin sky]

just start the game and record random match with ranger\mage for example

[feral karma]

I was being serious, if you run into it so often do you have any game clips of it?

I could help pass them along to get something done about it.

[elfin sky]

why I must do it? start any stream on twitch and ask streamer about the cheaters in game

[feral karma]

Why must you record the cheaters you encounter?

[elfin sky]

Im not a tester

[feral karma]

No worries I am just trying to help you.

You should consider recording it and submitting tickets, you could help make the game a better place.

[elfin sky]

I don't get paid for this, and it's not my job to record videos to get one cheater banned. The problem is systemic, and it makes the game incredibly shameful.

[elfin sky]

thank you for it

[elfin sky]

to help make game better DEVELOPER MUST buy cheats on marketplace and ban all who use it

for example ofcourse

[worthy bolt]

I dont see many cheaters in SA lobbies

at all

actually

[clear pendant]

cheaters wont play dead region

[elfin sky]

I'm just screaming at the sight of someone stepping out from behind a wall and getting hit in the elbow by a ranger's arrow. I see this consistently in about every 5 games; I spent the entire day playing Arena today.

[clear pendant]

most of them want fun / sell bis gear for rmt

[elfin sky]

in a pixel of an elbow

[worthy bolt]

yep. Good side of a dying region is no rmt

[feral karma]

It's pretty easy to use medal/outplayed and bind it to a hotkey. I do it all the time, and get a lot of players punished for their actions. The company is doing a lot to combat cheating, and unfair play though. Submitting a report is fast and easy to do, but if you don't want to do it, that's okay. I just always suggest it.

[elfin sky]

Okay, maybe they ban someone sometimes, but is the vulnerability really impossible to fix? Doesn't any anti-cheat detect the homing feature?

I've seen many times today how a person spins like a top when he's hit, and then attacks the head perfectly, this applies to both melee and ranged situations

[clear pendant]

its sad but cheats are always one step ahead

[elfin sky]

It looks like a circus.

[clear pendant]

rust its a insane game ruined by cheaters

and got very good devs, especially compared to this game

[feral karma]

There isn't a game out there that has stopped cheating totally in an online PvP game.

It's the way of gaming nowadays.

[hasty pumice]

Is rapier riposte 1.5x?

[feral karma]

Special Attack: Riposte Slash/Pierce dealing 150%/150% damage on each swing

[blazing pulsar]

rogues should cap at 50 hp

[uncut mulch]

Um how much HP does living armor have ? Just hit it 5 times with melt all blue stuff and it won't fall apart

Decided to run from it

[neon horizon]

any rogues that could confirm if Thrust is bugged?

[swift grove]

you sure it wasnt the named rare spawn one with more HP?

[uncut mulch]

Uh no i think it was a normal one

[swift grove]

300-400 HP on a normal one

700 on the named one

[uncut mulch]

And there's a room with like 8 of them lol

[swift grove]

they are 50% resistant to fire tho, try lightning, earth, or spirit

[uncut mulch]

Damn I was trying to beat it with melt as wizard... Unlucky thanks for the info tho !

[green apex]

yo how long till wipe

[keen mauve]

1.35x pretty sure

[tender kite]

yo anyone know what artifacts the wyvern drops?

[swift grove]

Early Access Season #9 will start on April 28, 2026. #📢announcements message

[devout eagle]

No

[swift grove]

bows

[dry lintel]

can somebody help me killing frost wyvern in pve, I need for tavern master quest?

[indigo valve]

ask in lfg

[ebon palm]

least obvious keylogger

[hasty valley]

game down or? i get disconnected everytime i try to connect

[feral karma]

game isn't down currently.

Try resetting steam.

[hasty valley]

ty

[elfin oracle]

whats the latest on cosmetic quests?

[swift grove]

theyre out now

[feral karma]

Final quest cosmetic rewards
Collector: Squat Rest
Tavern Master: Toxic Torch
Goblin Merchant: Emotional Breakdown

[charred cosmos]

@jaunty mantle thank you so much. Do you know which one gives you the squat?

[hasty pumice]

I checked the change logs. You are correct

[hasty pumice]

FYI: this is wrong, wiki is wrong. Recent change logs show the change to 1.35x

[feral karma]

Oh apologies.

[grizzled depot]

what is this game

I js found the discord lol

[hasty valley]

Any further tips to fix my game? i have it downloaded, the game launches up just fine but after its supposed to show the first main screen i get "failed to connect to the server. quit the game."

[edgy sable]

Ive been in the lab. The defense lab.

Crafting it, creating it.

[violet ivy]

@proper sandal is a discord scammer gng rlly tried to get my discord account

[uncut cedar]

Im having a similar issue, Im able to use my character, but after a couple of minutes, I get sent back to thee menu with a similar message. Or after I finish a dungeon, the game will crash.

[hasty valley]

I dont even get to main menu, just kicks me out after loading up the game

[uncut cedar]

Does that happen to you everytime?

[hasty valley]

Yeah, never had issues before since migrating

[uncut cedar]

Oh ookay, this issue started yesterday for me, no idea why it's happening all of a sudden

[hasty valley]

feels like my account is somehow blocked, game launches just fine but after the loading bar, like i said, it just says failed to connect

[uncut cedar]

Did you try uninstalling a reinstalling?

[hasty valley]

i tried everything. reinstalling, verifying multiple times, resetting router

making a free account now just to show 2 friends the game around if that would let me in, lol

[uncut cedar]

It might something to do with an app installed. I looked it up and it could also be anitvirus software preveenting the gamee from working.

[hasty valley]

Yeah i dont think so though. nothings changed since ive played multiple times

weird.

[night relic]

is squire to riches artifacts a real thing?

I have yet to see a clip of someone getting one

[uncut cedar]

I just tried again, got into my character, and a message that say "The connection to the server terminated abnormally, please restart the client". Dont know how to restart the client tho

[hasty valley]

free account i could get in with, wth. never did anything ban worthy atleast, is theres some bug?

[raw ember]

yo whihc is better phys dmg bonus or phys power?

[edgy sable]

I believe 1 phys power = 1% phys damage bonus

[upbeat haven]

up to 50 then it drops to 0.5 per

[hasty valley]

so how do i contact ironmace about the proble im having? any idea?

[tardy mural]

trying to solo queue in arena for provisional games and actually unable to find a match? That's not great

[feral karma]

https://darkanddarker.com/support/report/all/1/76561198267100217

That link will have a drop down with choices for customer support

[wintry saddle]

no one wants to play

this trash game

[tawny shore]

So i see shriek got changed. Is it like, still good? I'm not sure how much it reduced pdr by before tbh. But i see its mow 9% instead of just reducing armor

Same goes for harmonic shield, is it better or worse than before. Idk the rate of armor value->pdr

[fervent anvil]

its still good against people who are building pdr. but worse against pve

[tawny shore]

Well how much did it lower player pdr before

[fervent anvil]

cant remember. im a warlock main. havent played bard properly in ages

[tawny shore]

Well, we all have our flaws

[rustic jewel]

what goblin merchant quest rewards?

[tawny shore]

Pretty sure quests tell you their rewards

I haven't played in a bit tho

[limber fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126351047250685954/1252792569285578864/attachment.gif

[edgy sable]

LOL

Just got the best rage out in arena

"Get a life, go outside, get some friends!" as he is literally yelling at the top of his lungs over the video game. 🤣

Making it into a clip montage right now

There's so many voip rage outs in arena I think you could make a whole youtube you accept peoples clips like the DaD highlights but just arena ragers

[brazen wigeon]

do you get anything special like a skin fro completing the new goblin merchant quest?

[uncut mulch]

Playing few days already and how much i like playing it i also dislike it that much again
I need another help, how do u deal with warlocks ? Unless i am able to one shot them its no use, they become some kind of devil and dont lose hp at all, they become somewhat visible/invisible and can go thru anything and everything, they kited me when i was chasing them as fighter or they turn around and can 1v1 with no problem ? I would play warlock but they have way too many spells and text i dont really wanna bother reading alldat
I tought a lot of fighters were a problem but i can sense my rise of hate for warlocks

[brazen wigeon]

depends on ur class but if ur fighter avoid them there just to annoying same with sorcs

[clear gate]

can u actually get articafts in squires 2 riches now?

[swift grove]

yes. Terry confirmed it on dev Q&A stream. Also you can look at yourself when you select the mode, it says the highest drop tier is artifact

[subtle heart]

Just saw someone go into a hidden room on forest path

[swift grove]

Dungeon Loot
Up to Artifact Rewards!

[subtle heart]

Hope it’s only until end of wipe or norms will die

[exotic falcon]

what's the strongest class in the game atm?

[solemn turtle]

wjem does artifact arena come out

[vague quest]

next week iirc

[swift grove]

starts after the warlord tournament, ends on the 25th

[vague quest]

isnt wipe the 27th

arti arena lasts a week i thought

[swift grove]

yes but the artifact event ends the 25th per Terry on the Dev Q&A. he said 27th at first then corrected it in chat later to the 25th

[vague quest]

oh i read your other message wrong

my bad

[swift grove]

np, edited for clarity

[solemn turtle]

ty

[modern gull]

I heard s2r drops artifacts, where can you get them and what are the drop chances?

Also when is the double drop rate event if there will be one any time soon?

[swift grove]

yes, S2R can reward up to artifacts. they come from keyroom piles and the chance is very low

[modern gull]

Thanks, btw, do you know what rewards in the sense of skins or really expensive items are at the end of each traders quests?

[wind edge]

im srry kinda new what are pp?

[modern gull]

In what context?

[swift grove]

Goblin Merchant has a crying emote
Collector has a squat resting animation
Tavern Master has a green torch

if you want to see other merchants' quest rewards, look at https://darkanddarkertracker.com/questtracker

[swift grove]

PP = Pulverizing Prayer, the artifact morning star

[keen mauve]

Something boys have

[toxic meadow]

does any1 know what viola sells for

[swift grove]

5 deathblooms minimum

[toxic meadow]

thanks

[abstract fiber]

why dont ppl farm the ice dragon boss? is its loot worse then other bosses?

[swift grove]

they do. it drops the artifact bows, which aren't as valuable as say... warlord's drops, so its a little less contested, but people DO farm wyvern

[abstract fiber]

ahh ok I didnt actually know that the bosses have their own drop look table. Im guessing you mean the named red weapons?

[swift grove]

yes

[subtle heart]

why cant i kill players?

[swift grove]

are you in adventure mode? is there a green shield icon in your buffs?

[jagged wolf]

so im a new player and 2 ppl just killed themself becaus im not good at the game ????

tf is this

[subtle heart]

idk how to check that

im lvl 20

[swift grove]

if you're ingame, look at your buff bar. if theres a green sheild one, you're in adventure mode

if you're in lobby, check what mode you're queued for in the bottom left

[subtle heart]

well it says im in the pve campgain

[swift grove]

thatll do it

[subtle heart]

yeah it says adventure

how do i change that

[swift grove]

click the map and change the mode at the top. normals is blue geared opponents, HR is no limit. you can also try battle mode - squire to riches for ungeared opponenets

[distant juniper]

soo, the only way to adquire rings now is crafting or buying? they don't drop anymore?

[swift grove]

they do, but only in rusty iron key rooms. one jewelry piece is in each rusty iron key room

or you can kill players for them

[distant juniper]

[wanton pine]

crazy how op rogues are

[exotic falcon]

was arguing with somebody about how strong fighter is, fighter is definitely like top 3 classes atm no?

[distant juniper]

yeah

[lyric bough]

most classes I die to are OP in that moment

just died to a 10 spell wizard on my PDR fighter? wow, nerf wizard

[edgy sable]

sounds lkike a big counter to me

[lyric bough]

nah 10 spell wizard is just super OP when im on a PDR fighter /s

[charred sedge]

where is everybody in high rollers

1 duo per match

or is duos dead

[wheat ferry]

So I have to get TEN boss drops from the fire boss for the collector quest?

[jovial viper]

yes

[blissful valve]

where are your guys dropping amy and rings. restarted yesterday and never droped one.

[jovial viper]

you can only craft them

[blissful valve]

oooh

ty man

[keen mauve]

You can loot them too from rusty key room in castle

[jovial viper]

technically yea but its a rather niche source of obtaining them

[blissful valve]

so i need to do the goldsmith quests to get to craft legendary rings

[jovial viper]

yep

they cost 1 legendary essence 5 of whatever material is needed copper/grave essence/intact skull/uncommon lifeleaf and 1 gold ore

[wraith egret]

arena truly shows how miserable and garbage this game / developer team is... 0 balance, only disgusting meta matters, 0 skill ceiling.. this is literally the worst flop i have ever experienced in gaming history.. especially with the amount of weird toxic players u meet.. worst experience

[keen mauve]

I agree nerf ranger

[wraith egret]

its been so many years.. andd ironmace still failed so horribly hard at this..

pathetic

i literally lost -22 points in arena in my second match, while it was a 3v2... one of the players didnt even join.. how is this fair?

[subtle heart]

Annihilates m0id

[wraith egret]

-22 points for an actual 2v3... while sometimes i only get 7 points for a tryhard win

the worst fucking game ever existed

i truly believe this ass game will be canceled in the future.. horrible waste of time, i just hope if u see these messages, u will realize this aswell and quit this garbage .. and do something better with ur free time

[subtle heart]

Stop the yap Peter

[wraith egret]

these are facts

[subtle heart]

[magic olive]

I am a sorcerer, and I use just fists to cast spells, and for some reason, I can't change to my weapon slot that only has fists, does anyone know how to fix the problem? (Also, is this the right channel? I couldn't find a channel for questions)

[grizzled adder]

to put ur weapon away press X basically

[sonic maple]

True

[grizzled adder]

u can have 2 weapons and still have hands free

[magic olive]

Oh okay, thanks!

[sonic maple]

Maybe... if you can name a better game...

[grizzled adder]

feeding this is bold

[pallid hemlock]

define better

[sonic maple]

Did you reply on your alt by accident

[pallid hemlock]

no 💀 im asking you to define better

[sonic maple]

What would I play over this

[pallid hemlock]

depends on what your goals are. if its just pvp youre looking for, your number of options might touch the millions tbh

[hollow magnet]

arena needs its own lfg or get rid of arena

[dark merlin]

When are we nerfing warlock i just lost 60 damage cause i hit him

[indigo valve]

when can we get rid of hr teaming lol

[livid orbit]

does anyone know when they changed agility again to give 1 movespeed per agility? last time i played it was 1 agi=0.5 movespeed

never saw the change back in the patch notes LOL

[indigo valve]

they dont say half the things they do in patch notes

[fervent anvil]

you can just use the lfg here?

[rose agate]

Is there a consistent way to put space between a sorcerer and a barbarian with their knockback immunity? Would aqua prison be adequate?

[sturdy coral]

pretty sure the wiki is updated for this, it was either this wipe or just before

I don’t believe it’s 1:1 but has a curve

[robust herald]

did they change warlock back to dealing consistant damage with curse

[dry nebula]

no

[coarse jackal]

anyone know which questline give the green torch skin?

[sonic maple]

Stop abusing tome of sheol

[robust herald]

but its been such a naughty book

[neon ivy]

why is arena not always a game mode"?

[robust herald]

people would get burnt out on it and it would be hard to find full lobbies if it was out all the time

[neon ivy]

maybe tho me and my freinds i think play dnd dungeons just for arena loot tbh

[sonic maple]

[sonic maple]

Ya that's why arena killed the game

[lyric stream]

so does nobody play ocean map? havent seen one person in like 5 games

[heady pecan]

What can you get from Wyvern now

[wraith egret]

i wonder why the actual fuck is riposte not working on longsword every second or third time, game just cant register the riposte input after the parry on longsword, but gotta nerf it even more yeah ironmace W, while we got halberds and longbows

[subtle dagger]

when is wipe

[mighty meadow]

I think it's 27th of this month

[swift grove]

Early Access Season #9 will start on April 28, 2026. #📢announcements message

[subtle dagger]

thanks

[hazy lodge]

How old are you

[jaunty mantle]

Collector for 10 tears (not real ones)

[fervent anvil]

nah. arena being a weekend event is amazing. gives people a nice reason to grind though the week ontop of things like the demi grind or just getting loot

[sonic maple]

Ya then it kills the dungeons on the weekend when previously they'd be crazy fun. Also people don't gear up as much anymore because that's money that could go to the arena hoard

[fervent anvil]

i still find a decent amount of geared people

[sonic maple]

Now it's a rat fest for a single arena set. Hellya arena. I play the extracting game for the tdm mode

[pallid hemlock]

shows the quality of the dungeon exploration and mob design compared the mordhau-with-magic style pvp they otherwise offer with arena

not everyone wants to battle the boof until the end of days

[toxic ravine]

are people teaming in s2r bannable?

[swift grove]

no, but sniping the same lobby to stack teams against the rest of the lobby probably is

if you just meet a random in s2r and want to form an alliance, thats fine. its organic

[analog summit]

i had to pay 2 full chests 2 empty bags and 15 legendary diamonds for illusory

and then i had to pay that illusory and like 7 trolls bloods to get an illusory that had better stats

[untold cliff]

Is there a channel to report players? I can’t report them in game but have screenshots

[dry nebula]

magic resist stackers beware

[edgy sable]

you cant defeat magic resist stackers !

[sonic maple]

Please someone do 100 magic pen build please I want to see max cap mdr barb go

[edgy sable]

It would catch me off guard thats for sure

I have a 200hp 75%mdr barb kit I wouldnt expect to get exploded

Already expect to get exploded by a melee guy

[fast shore]

Skill issue

[jaunty mantle]

were you scammed. why is it so expensive. i bought bt 2 days ago for 1 empty chest and 1 full spectral

[jovial viper]

all artis were bought out from the market when the arti arena was announced

[toxic ravine]

price of chests went down as well as all gold storage items

[jaunty mantle]

oh yea. damn

[red lichen]

Hi guys, how you can get artifact in s2r if there is no bosses?

[near rose]

@red lichen key piles

[unreal rampart]

What happens if i dont collect the money from my market within a week

[stone panther]

You'll do a involuntary donation to the IM bank account

[unreal rampart]

What does that mean

[stone panther]

Are you a barbarian?

[jovial viper]

all the unclaimed gold goes to me

[drowsy solar]

for cave troll, on the damage reduction page on the wiki it says these

Physical: -26.2%
Magical: 7.8%
Fire: 50%
Earth: -100%
Dark: -200%
Evil: 50%
Projectile: 40%

do the negatives mean he is weak to?

[subtle goblet]

yes

[drowsy solar]

thank ya

[fading palm]

s2r is actually so much fun rn

tho casters are obviously weak compared to things like fighter and barb

[sonic maple]

true

[kind dome]

Only in s2r but in arena and hr casters are op. Only decent anti casters meta it is broken buffball

[hoary hill]

is it true you get a free copy of dark and darker if you can prove down syndrome?

[vague quest]

yes

thats how i got dark and darker

[vestal glade]

goblin caves is the most braindead hr map

rogues barbs and warlocks

played like 10 games and these are the only classes i found

rogues trying to get a glowup barbs fully geared and boc warlocks

[wooden geyser]

I need someones opinion

I hopped off bard because of nerfs and i need a good swap

I hear ranger i sgodd rn but idk

[rose agate]

For singles, trios, arena or in general?

[wooden geyser]

General

[wise turret]

why tf do i keep getting actual potatoes on my team in solo q arena

a wiz that does 0 dmg first 2 games etc

[rose agate]

Pretty well rounded and the 'easier' of the ranged classes. I bounced off because it was a little too repetative for me, but some people like it straightforward. The class will never be 'bad' probably, since it's so consistent

[wooden geyser]

Huh

Ok

Tysm for your help

[clear atlas]

I love a barbarian just hitting my arms twice while hes in blue luck kit and I die from it 🙂

did like 80% of my health with a arm hit on the second attack the first one didnt even do like 1/5th of my health

[finite yoke]

Bro is angry his grey items can't tank full blues

[clear atlas]

im in legendarys...

and his only have luck gemed on him, hes not even using strength rings, hes using dex ones to swing faster.

[finite yoke]

Idk what a legendarys is

Maybe he used reckless attack to bypass your armor

[clear atlas]

well clearly you are if you're talking about grey items by color, or do I need to say yellows?

[finite yoke]

Oooh, you mean legendaries?

[finite yoke]

Sorry, I sometimes forget many people with poor English play this game.

[clear atlas]

"Sorry, I sometimes forget their are many people with poor english in this game." captialized english in a sentence and forgot their, sadge.

[proven owl]

For trading post how do you put all your money in? Do you need chest do buy high value items?

[finite yoke]

English is a proper noun, because it is the name of a language. I understand that you might not be intelligent enough to learn proper English, but please don't talk like that to me when you have no clue what you're talking about.

[clear atlas]

Someone got a tad bit angry. 🙂

[finite yoke]

You need high value items in general, honestly the volcano tear might be a good pick.

[finite yoke]

No, I am just correcting your poor English and your many misconceptions.

[clear atlas]

well sorry that im not going out of my way and time to learn perfect English, its not like im in a discord full of other people who spend 3k hours or more like me playing a game lol.

[dark solar]

Wasn't Graysun the main dev, who's the boss now?

[finite yoke]

There is no need for your aggressive sarcasm, I am remaining calm and civil in our discussion, and I expect the same from you.

[clear atlas]

extra space between our and discussion, also you say that but what about that agressive sarcasim about me being in grays and them in blue's when the mainpoint was me being two tapped by them. ⬆️

[dark solar]

Js bro please

[clear atlas]

honestly, no clue, I just know SDF isnt on the main driving force now and Paul is.

[dark solar]

I just noticed that the updates were going in a bit different way

[clear atlas]

and before you say something comhraic, this entire argument started because you wanted it too, you had like zero reason to be insulting by acting like you dont know what legendaries are.

[finite yoke]

I was simply making an assumption based on what happened. I don't know what you're talking about with the "extra space", and to be frank, your misspelling of sarcasm when I just said it shows how serious you're taking the discussion

[clear atlas]

aint know way you're acting like it wasnt there in your paragraph, buddy, you edited it, it says it.

[dark solar]

I am now afraid to say "sorry for my bad english"

[proven owl]

For trading post What are Db? And what is it when people say 1 full plus 15k chest?

[finite yoke]

I know what a legendary is, I never said I did not.

[clear atlas]

its fine, im honestly going with it, its pretty fun doing this over doing the same money grind all the time lol.

[finite yoke]

I had to edit the message because I failed to capitalize my sentence on accident...

[solid cypress]

U winning the rage bait gold medal rn

[clear atlas]

that wasnt the point, you went out of your way to act like you didnt know what I was talking about, when in the context of the situation, gray's? blues? its in the words my guy, just because I didnt say yellow doesnt make it non-legendary.

[clear atlas]

I mean ill just stop here, its really fun tho ngl.

[jade wigeon]

Hi! I'm a returning player and I wanted to ask about the bosses in squires to riches. What happened to them? I mean it says Artifact Rewards but how do you get the artifacts?

[finite yoke]

I simply did not understand your misspelling until it was clarified with context.

[sturdy coral]

hello without bosses, artifacts drop only from the piles in locked key rooms (rusty, golden, skull)

the chance is pretty low so it’s not really a reliable way? but it’s possible

[jade wigeon]

Thank you!

[sturdy coral]

np good luck 👍

[clear atlas]

honestly didnt know it gave artifacts, now im tempted to do it more ;o

[lofty hemlock]

which quests give cosmetics?

emote - goblin merchant
torch - tavern master

is there 1 more?

[wanton furnace]

solos infested with esping rogues

[swift grove]

collector has a quest for a resting emote

[wanton furnace]

who will give the quest for torch?

[crude karma]

cheating barb on water map!!!

[finite yoke]

Try reading the message above your last one..... Some people 🙄

[finite yoke]

How can you tell

[wanton furnace]

get rage baited and stop the esp rogue infestation

[proven owl]

How much does a chest hold?

[finite yoke]

You're getting bodied by rogues and can't cope, so you accuse them of hacking!

[finite yoke]

25,000 gold coins

[swift grove]

was it ragebait tho?

[finite yoke]

Yes I am furious right now

[swift grove]

must be nice to just claim ragebait anytime you make an innocent mistake

accountability and self awareness are scary af

[finite yoke]

Honestly I know what to do when someone is intentionally frustrating other users.

@fathom field can you please tell this user to stop ragebaiting in the discussion channel?

This one, he admitted to it
#game-discussion message

[wheat nymph]

Hi,
Does bard shreak does not work in PVE anymore?

[visual solar]

No, you'll have to hit the monsters a couple more times

[clear atlas]

it still works on them, but its significantly weaker, but its way better for pvp to make up for it.

[tawny shore]

Why is every warlock player you meet just the worst

[fleet surge]

At the game or personality?

[tawny shore]

Both

[fleet surge]

I thought that was rogues lol

[tawny shore]

It might be for most people, but for me its warlocks

I've never had a good warlock teammate

Be it in skill or personality

[clear atlas]

probably in part to how its played, most warlocks just run and curse over and over or maybe switch it up a bit with inf dark bolt, its pretty bad, and them knowing they can press 1 button to prevent essentially any form of damage or obstacle in their way as they heal from curses doesn't help.

[supple condor]

where does one steadily find bigger treasure pieces now? Need that epic golden plate and only find little bangles and stuff all over.. even piles mostly just give smaller

[clear atlas]

I found mine in a pile but id argue gold chests have better odds of treasure since there's less to pull from item wise. Could just be a little unlucky to be fair, may have a easier time finding it in normals then HR since it wont be uniques either.

[brave mango]

that's a craftable

can't find that

[clear atlas]

o, did they mean golden like armor? or golden bowl like legendary one, honestly no clue lol.

[cyan spindle]

How many tears for collector quest?

[clear atlas]

10 if I remember right, but they said they are upping the droprate of it, idk when.

[brave mango]

I mean I assumed goldn plate means plate armour 😭

never heard someone talk about the golden bowl like its plate

[clear atlas]

honestly, I can see the vision

[tawny shore]

If i have armor pen on one weapon will it apply to both

Because i may consider straying from my usual slayer and try smth with a mace

[swift grove]

yes

[clear atlas]

Only if you hold both out, it gives you the stat which applies to anything you have, so just need both out.

[tawny shore]

I'll try flanged/castellon slayer

In theory i expect it'll be good

[clear atlas]

now I got myself curious, wondering if holding a +2 ad weapon on offhand would make my main weapon do more ;-;

[tawny shore]

Idk, add weap dmg probably only applies to the weapon

More phys power would probably apply to both

[clear atlas]

thats the thing, just like armor pen it applies to armor pieces aswell, so its a weird spot.

[tawny shore]

Only one way to find out

[clear atlas]

but then again.. weapon says additional weapon and not physical damage so you are probably right, no way they overlooked that xD

[swift grove]

it does

[tawny shore]

Now that i'm no longer using a falchion i'm gonna swap off sword mastery. Is combo attack as good in practice as it seems on paper?

[marsh granite]

Anybody Know when the wipe is ?

[vague quest]

yes it does

[swift grove]

Early Access Season #9 will start on April 28, 2026. #📢announcements message

[clear atlas]

kinda making myself look dumb with my questioning of it, of course it works, shields have ad on them lol.

[supple condor]

im talking about the literal Plate like a dish u eat off not the palte armor

[lofty hemlock]

LOL

[brave mango]

Oh

just RNG tbh

you can find that shit on some tables in some modules, or usually in the bigger chests in norms

[feral sierra]

how can i get mysterious potion??

[swift grove]

dreadspines (cant drop in PVE)

[uncut mulch]

A squire geared warlock managed to defeat three players that had all blue gear with like enchantment with gems
How do u even play against this warlock i need some serious tips.

[zealous wing]

An overall good strat for any class is to try to dive him and make him use phantomize, then stick to him like glue. If he has more Ms he will most likely get away tho, otherwise you need to dodge curses and bow him down and or use anti heal like fireballs or warlock Boc. Also while in phantomize they take extra magic damage so one fireball while he’s incorporeal should end it.

[uncut mulch]

I was playing sorcerer, whenever I chased him after he'd phantomize he would then start leaving fire behind him then goes around the corner and shoots some red stuff and black orbs then come out again and all the same, even cleric (just saw on internet is apparently his hard counter) lost against him

[zealous wing]

Cleric is only a “hard counter” because of its damage reduction perks but all it really does is prolong the fight

MS is key if the warlock has more you can’t really do anything, in squire it’s quite strong because they can literally take off all their clothes for more speed and kite you endlessly

[uncut mulch]

So I guess only with insane amount of time invested in game I can fight against warlocks

[zealous wing]

As sorc I would teleport onto him make him phantom then hit with firewall or flamestrike OR get in melee pop phantom and hit with lightning storm

[uncut mulch]

Hmm alright I'll try that on the next one

[zealous wing]

You got this, it is a game knowledge fight, it will get easier the more you play against it

[uncut mulch]

Other classes have their own weakness and I'm exploiting those but I still can't find a single one for warlock

Aight okay thanks for the info

[zealous wing]

All warlock builds have very few weaknesses

[uncut mulch]

Was helpful

[zealous wing]

Npnp

[robust schooner]

is rogue dagger any good

[fallow hill]

Hello good people, I need a guide for HR Wyvern? Any tips?

[zealous wing]

In high gear you can 3-4 tap any class with the dagger build

[fallow hill]

If you have high gear, yes

[zealous wing]

YouTube has plenty

[fallow hill]

They aren't outdated?

[zealous wing]

The fights been the same for a while idk

[robust schooner]

in no/low gear would i just go mosquitoi

[vague quest]

boss hasnt changed ever

besides for the summoning requirements

[fallow hill]

Good to hear that, I will check some videos and try it, thanks guys

[zealous wing]

Yeeea agreed

[robust schooner]

sorry for the questions havent played in abour 5 months so idk whats changed or not but erm yk what perks and skills to use for it

[zealous wing]

Two hand crossbows, dagger master, jokester, poison wep, and I guess double jump or whatever else you want

Dagger master will give ur bows more dam if you have dagger quip in main hand and bring lots of throwing knives

[robust schooner]

ah okay yeah thats what i used when i last played thanks alot

[subtle heart]

Do cloaks require merchant affinity to be bought from the goblin?

[tawny shore]

Anyone know why my game keeps telling me "tavern is not working" before crashing

It does it mid match sometimes and its really annoying

[solar sage]

where are the players dawg?

gobo caves norms in duo, not a singular person since last week

[swift grove]

s2r and arena

[feral sierra]

can someone send me the screen of Broken Stone Bridge on goblin caves i can not find it on internet

[swift grove]

https://darkanddarkertracker.com/maps
Its in Firedeep

[pulsar birch]

How tf do I report someone? I press Esc, Support, report player, but it keeps telling a game account cant be found when i triple checked all the info. Tells me to use the in game report feature. But I don't see any report button anywhere else other than what i described above.

[tranquil vortex]

press r

[swift grove]

its bugged rn, save it try again tomorrow

[mortal talon]

Dear devs.. fix the fucking sound in this game ty

[feral sierra]

thx so much

[spark hedge]

pls dont remove arena this 6 days !!!! <@&1019888848773328936>

[pallid hemlock]

Bigger arrow stacks with a reskin (Quiver) took 3+ years, i think players consistently making footstep sound might be another 2-3 😬

[mortal talon]

Damn

Feels bad

[spark hedge]

What is the drop chance of artifacts in squire?

[swift grove]

"very low" - Terry

[lime verge]

witch traders have the emote quest lines?

[swift grove]

Goblin Merchant - "Emotional Breakdown" Emote
Tavern Master - "Toxic Torch" Torch skin
Collector - "Squat" Resting Emote (I have seen people say this is a resting emote, can't personally confirm yet)

[lime verge]

thank u ape

[swift grove]

np

[mortal talon]

Third game in a row people aren’t making footsteps in full plate armor in the fucking wheel

[subtle heart]

It’s called crouching

[mortal talon]

I wish no.. he was right behind me full run

[subtle heart]

In case you didn’t know only plate boots make a lot of noise, also long as they’re wearing leather boots it doesn’t matter what they’re wearing.

[mortal talon]

I know because the death cam lol

[spark hedge]

XD

[mortal talon]

So plate armor doesn’t make plate noises if you have leather boots on? Fr?

[vague quest]

why are you @ing them?

they cant do shit lmfao

[granite bluff]

Correct

[plain fox]

What's the tavern master end reward? emote?

[mortal talon]

wtf…..

How stupid

[granite bluff]

🤷‍♂️

[uncut mulch]

Bought another expensive kit and extracted two times, killed 3 people ( none warlock) then got into new game and first opponent was warlock, he did the same thing poking from corners shooting things and I didn't fought him from afar but tpd to him and prepared firewall but he turned into demon and started slaughtering me haha

The moment I see warlocks I am running away haha he can take the module he is in

[mortal talon]

The sound in this game used to be so good

[limpid brook]

Does magic pen work with rogues poison?

[mortal talon]

Not worth Neil

[subtle heart]

Wonder if the average player count would be higher if arena lasted a full week, they should experiment with this kind of things sometimes instead of just making permanent changes.

[mortal talon]

The player count would be higher if shit made sense in the game

The only consistent thing in the game is that nothing is consistent

[lime verge]

best part about the game. its unpredicable!

[tawny shore]

How is rogue faring after the true damage removal

And daggers. How are they doing

[lime verge]

there fine still small

[pallid hemlock]

brother theres a glitch causing footsteps to be fully silent. has been for 2+ months how

[lime verge]

someone want to help me kill frost wyvern in pve?

[pallid hemlock]

they plan to remove rogue invis... meanwhile being "hidden" in context of the game is nothing short of pure invisibility 💀 ig theyll finally add mob line of sight and other basic stuff??

[rich relic]

no more rogue invis in the corner instead he will be 10k feet in the air looming

[steady aspen]

question is the religion skin a recolor or the og orc skin? it kinda looks red but i dont wanna grind for something i already have

[lime verge]

what else u spending money on at this point

[steady aspen]

i just got back into the game so i have no gold coin chest and stuff yet

[lime verge]

are u wanting to know the plus and minus on the skin?

[steady aspen]

im asking if the skin is different from the one in the store as far as looks go

im a bit colorblind so its hard to tell if its a different one or the same

[brave mango]

its just red

thats all it is

[steady aspen]

thanks

[brave mango]

yeah ofc

[pallid hemlock]

i wonder if rogue will be able to infinitely wall climb or if their will be some sort of stamina. i hope they copy and paste the sprint/stamina system from water map water. press walk button for sprinting on walls, like in water. once you run out of stamina, you simply start dying. it would work well with magic crow > fall

[mortal talon]

removing invis sounds stupid as fuck ngl

wall climbing sounds stupid

[thorny crater]

why

[mortal talon]

1.. pickpocket is my fav thing to do in this game. thats dead af with out invis

when im bored of bossing and pvping, the last thing i do is pickpocket.. so with out that im one less player in a game that cant afford player losses.

but 2, invis is rogue identity in nearly every game that has rogues.

its already been nerfed into the ground compared to what it used to be. even creep is useless now

and 3, i just dont trust ironmace to make "wall climbing" not dumb af

[tidal kelp]

No update for cleric/wizard for at least a year, probably more, is fucking unacceptable. Classes should receive updates EVERY SEASON!!! Do the fucking minimum to support people wanting to play your fucking game! How the fuck are you eyeing bard and warlock for the next class updates? You should be updating EVERY CLASS!!!

People are so fucking frustrated with this game and this shit is why.

[vague quest]

i play bard, and i agree, but youre over reacting

all classes receiving updates every season would also take a massive amount of work

[tidal kelp]

I've been waiting years already for classes, especially the original ones, to get some sort of update. Regular updates to the core gameplay elements should be well within expectations.

[tawny shore]

Aren't cleric and wizard both in a pretty fine spot rn

I'd much rather like new bard songs that are actually good

[vague quest]

theyre both strong classes, but they have like 2 playstyles, it gets boring after a while

[tidal kelp]

If by fine you mean stale as hard tack from years of promised updates but no delivery then sure. It's not about how they perform it is about keeping the gameplay interesting.

[tawny shore]

Well thats just how it is with some classes. And i'm not really sure how that can be changed with just a few new perks or skills

Fighter has a lot of playstyles because thats just how it is, fighter has lots of varying weapons, armors, and such. Wizard doesn't really

[vague quest]

one skill can add an entirely new playstyle

same for one perk

[tidal kelp]

They have been promising Wizard new spells for like 2 years with nothing to show. They also completely failed when it comes to delivering what they state Wizard is supposed to be gameplay wise.

[vague quest]

just look at slayer, lifebloom, or demon form

[tawny shore]

Yk now that you mention it a more defense based battle wizard would be cool

[vague quest]

ive wanted a second skill that isnt spell related

[tawny shore]

With like new spells for defense

[tidal kelp]

They should have never viewed any of the classes as "complete" in the state that they are in.

[vague quest]

full bonk wiz like bonk cleric

[zealous wing]

Ouuuff yea demon lock is the opposite you wanna run from him and poke lol

[tawny shore]

I'm sure they'll add more

I like barb and i can see how one may want a new playstyle on their favorite classes

[tidal kelp]

That is what people have thought since the playtests yet these classes have barely been touched since.

[tawny shore]

Though honestly i'm not sure what you could even give barb to make them different

The latest skills on em are not that good

[tidal kelp]

Updating classes is more important than new maps.

[tawny shore]

Skullsplitter and heavy swing are nifty but i wouldn't use them

[vague quest]

yeah, i love skullsplitter, but its so ass

[tawny shore]

Especially if the quality of maps we have are like the water map

[tidal kelp]

Water map was such a waste of all the time and resources that went into it.

[vague quest]

its literally just worse executioner

[tawny shore]

Tbf you can use it on club

[vague quest]

boring weapon

[tawny shore]

Though i rarely use 1hander barb and when i do its with horsemans axe because it looks the best

[tidal kelp]

They need to remove the map tile system and just release the maps as static but well designed layouts. Bring back the corner mummy room.

Randomized maps was not the play.

[tawny shore]

I wouldn't be averse to it

Yk what i want? I map thats in a mystical little forest area

Boss can be an archfey or something

[fringe garnet]

Skull Splitter + Bloodthirst = "Bleed out for me, weakling"

[civic shoal]

if you reach a rank in arena then fall below that rank will you atill get the rewards for the highest rank you reached or end on ?

[vague quest]

12 extra damage (at best)

[tawny shore]

I'd also like a dual wielding barb playstyle

[vague quest]

no

its the highest rank you currently have

[civic shoal]

thanks

[icy sorrel]

Hey how does one sell?

[indigo vine]

Can’t pick a main between warlock sorcerer and ranger

🦧

[subtle heart]

What do you want to sell?

Poor guy started today

[icy sorrel]

I just got back from my first run

[icy sorrel]

Armor, weapons, magic book scroll. I manged to end up selling to the armorer

[subtle heart]

Nice, the bracelets and all that goes to the collector

[icy sorrel]

Thanks

Do you know how to buy (and how to not get betrayed)

My gold isn't being accepted

[subtle heart]

Oh buy it depends on what u want

[icy sorrel]

Wdym its all coins

[subtle heart]

Need to reach level 20 to become a trader and buy gear tho

[icy sorrel]

Can't even from merchants?

[subtle heart]

Yeah you can but generally it’s better to collect it in the dungeon, the goblin has capes tho

[icy sorrel]

Alright thanks

Well here's to hoping my next group won't betray me

[subtle heart]

Wdym what happened?

[icy sorrel]

They kept trying to attack from the moment we spawned

[stone panther]

DaD Playtip #1, Do not fill with randoms. This game has a toxic AF playerbase

[subtle heart]

Never had a random attack me tho that’s weird

[icy sorrel]

That mashed sense

[icy sorrel]

It was 2 at the same time

[fervent anvil]

try getting a group from the lfg here. its against the rules the use the lfg just to tk people

[icy sorrel]

Thanks

[stone panther]

duo's looking for a loot pinata , pretty freaking common

[icy sorrel]

I manged to escape and survive luckily

[obtuse pumice]

is normal piles the best way to get epic bowl for quest ?

[subtle heart]

You weren’t in pve were you?

[pallid hemlock]

.5 new wizard spells per year. and of them is magic lock 💀

[icy sorrel]

I have no clue

Though I did light someone on fire from a different group soo

[tidal kelp]

Magic Lock was fun for a short time until they nerfed it into further irrelevance.

[subtle heart]

If you don’t know you were probably in pve where u can’t hurt each other bc that’s the default

[pallid hemlock]

magic unlocking given to the bard, the party buffing music man, is diabolical imo. why does he have more utility than wizard

[icy sorrel]

So I was fighting ghosts

[tidal kelp]

Because they refuse to give casters cantrip spells meaning they need to use all of their slots to have enough spells for a single short fight.

[subtle heart]

Bruh please lower the goblin affinity requirement, I don’t want to go to your shitty lava map 20 times just to interact with some hidden and rng pile

Just to get some stuff back from HR

[subtle heart]

Probably

[icy sorrel]

Thats funny

[livid moss]

can u get artifact or chest from mystical gem?

[tawny shore]

I am so vey happy people can't just hop into red for a free escape now

That was a big complaint of mine, personally

[tawny shore]

I don't think cantrips work in DaD

Besides, Sorc and lock don't run out of spells

[tidal kelp]

Part of what makes wiz and cleric feel so bad. They are all supposed to be spellcasting-focused classes.

Sitting for spells is bad design.

[tawny shore]

I mean i don't personally find it that intrusive. Goes back to dnd inspiration i think

Where i think they messed up is being so "a bit of this and a bit of that" abt it

[tidal kelp]

Cantrips are much needed.

[tawny shore]

I mean i don't think wiz and cleric are starved for ways to kill effectively

Besides, cleric also doubles as a melee class if you build them for it

[steady aspen]

did they make area SSF?

[devout lily]

@compact obsidian so when we getting a working anticheat?

[tawny shore]

I can see how cantrips would be nice, but i just know it'll either be very weak or way too strong

[tidal kelp]

Not if they don't do much to players.

They are mostly needed for the PvE stuff.

[tawny shore]

I suppose that would be pretty reasonable

A firebolt i could see doing a lot against skellies

[vague quest]

no

[steady aspen]

thanks good to know so i can get a kit ready for next weekend

[cold coral]

when legendaries arena?

[feral karma]

It should be on/after April 16th, and the arena will have no gear limits, so you can even bring Artifacts in.

[stone panther]

20-27 april is indeed after april 16th

[radiant mortar]

remove market, adjust workshop, bis game tbh

[vague quest]

real

adjust merchants too

[pulsar pebble]

Arc has really set cemented my opinion that player markets in extraction games is a horrible system lol. So nice to not have to fight some goober whos sitting in a trade channel for 2 hours to make the best BIS kit to just shift W through the entire lobby lol. Actually in general im pretty dead set on alot of the Arc systems. I like that the best rarity guns in the game are basically all very PVE centric, and all the PVP load outs happen in the grey-blue class guns.

[brave mango]

by far the worst thing about arc is the fact that the higher rarity things are damn near useless

the fact that the ''best gear'' in the game is objectively the worst in longevity and usage is absolute shit

[pulsar pebble]

naw fam. Least not for anyone whos not online and gaming for 80 hours a week. lol. The magic sauce is you can't build godhood from your inventory, your never beyond touching. The real issue with DD is most of your fate is determined after the rounds loading screen has passed, your either in a good lobby or your fodder. lol

[brave mango]

it doesn't need to be about godhood

hear me out

[pulsar pebble]

*has flashbacks of fighting 270 hp barbarians in this game

[brave mango]

having the most expensive kit in Arc doesn't mean anything because 3 headshots from an Anvil and you're dead regardless
Like its about getting outplayed in that game or just trying to tank more shots than you should with your shitty shields

the issue is that the higher end gear is absolutely worthless to try to get

the heavy shield doesn't mean anything because it goes down to 2 heavy shots just like the medium, but it costs 3x the material in upkeep and recharging and it makes you far heavier

All the epic guns run out of durability within 2 matches, require expensive as hell attachments to actually make work because for some reason they have some odd schtick like the bobcats stupid firing rate with terrible bloom

ALL of that just to have the same performance as a grey gun that just got upgraded and a medium shield

[pulsar pebble]

Sure, 3 head shots in Arc BIS = dead. And the alternative? Have the gear be so good you can survive what? like 7 headshots, making he has to reload a bullet before you die. So then you and your 2 mates can just shift W across the entire open field of spaceport and not a care in the world? haha.

[brave mango]

half the cost of material and time, exact same performance

[brave mango]

I didn't say that

[pulsar pebble]

You didnt, but thats the net result either way. lol

[brave mango]

I'm saying that the higher end gear is so ass it's not worth using

No its not

[pulsar pebble]

well, its worth using. against Arc. lol

[brave mango]

if the epic guns were actually useful? Didn't run out of durability instantly?

[pulsar pebble]

an anvil aint going to be a good time against any of the higher tier arcs, thus the goldy lock guns have a role.

[brave mango]

you have something like the betinna that uses heavy ammo but heavy only stacks up to 40 compared to the 80 medium or 100 light and its a fully automatic

Half your inventory needs to be ammo or youre fucked after 1 gunfight, and it runs out of durability the fastest out of any gun in the game with terrible firing rate for a fully automatic

[brave mango]

there is noooo reason to be killing arc either

their parts dont mean anything unless you're really into collecting the parts ig

[pulsar pebble]

a whole portion of the player base only does PVE

lol. thats whats great about it. 1 game fits multiple play styles and all the gear meshes nicely.

[brave mango]

and that's fun, don't get me wrong

but they're not being rewarded for that choice either lmao

the moment someone hears the aphelion get ripped, you're being hounded by the whole lobby

god forbid you pull out a hullcracker at a matriatch event, everyone is coming to you cause its a nice expensive gun

atleast here in this game, the higher rarity shit actually has cool useful gimmicks and more stats that help

compared to having to spend like 4 hours grinding to get materials for the gun, then praying on RNG you get a blueprint for the gun

Just for the ammo to cost 5k a stack and the second you shoot it you get hounded by the whole lobby

[reef onyx]

I hear arc raiders is dying. Down to less than 100k and still dropping

[brave mango]

no variety in matches

everyone is using the same gear because like I said above the higher end shit is just not worth using

you run into people running the same 5 guns, each game, each ''kit'' is the exact same shit

[reef onyx]

Will be interesting to see what happens to it in the future, and this game too. I think dark has alot more content. I think players counts are low because it's not for casuals

[bronze hornet]

jolly time is just useless

why did they do that. thats the whole point of the bard build. running while healing

[keen mauve]

It was stupid in the first place, why is a class allowed to heal and kite

at least warlock has to land curses but bard doing it was dumb

[daring crane]

Can you get artifacts from corrupted key room on water map?

[tawny shore]

Do we think the ifrit will come back as a permanent skin eventually

It looks sick

[vague quest]

from the pile in there, yes

[vague quest]

no, it was a HR reward

HR rewards never enter the shop

[warm patrol]

so does the exit at ice dragon not work no more? jus sat there stuck in the ceiling for a minute till i froze to death, they remove that exit or? xD

[pure notch]

Im better than u

1v1 slingshot only

[glass wadi]

i hope so i think recurring skins is always good for the community so theyre not left out

[daring crane]

Sorry meant corroded key, unless that is what you were talking about anyway?

[vague quest]

theyll probably add a similar skin in the future, or atleast one with the same stats

[wind dew]

Ifrit but blue and it will be $20

[vague quest]

itll be 18 pal, get it right, smh

[warm tendon]

When a Wizard sticks an Explosion on a player but then dies the explosion gets nullified but when a Warlock curses someone then dies the curse stays. What is the logic behind this?

[vague quest]

yes

[subtle heart]

Gn yall

[warm tendon]

There is logic?

[surreal arch]

What are current rules for Arena?
Still epic or more?

[warm tendon]

epic no ssf

[vague quest]

yes

[upbeat plank]

HOW TF DO I GET OUT OF BLINDFALL PIT

[vague quest]

go up

[upbeat plank]

I CANT FIND HOW TO ACTIVATE THE ELEVATOR, ITS TOO DARK

[surreal arch]

Which one is blindfall pit? O.o

[vague quest]

use your eyes

[surreal arch]

Forgot the torch?

[upbeat plank]

is it on the wall or ground

[vague quest]

its on the map

[upbeat plank]

omfg i found it on a random wall no where near the elevator

[vague quest]

yw i helped a lot

[upbeat plank]

i had 2 bars to get out, thank god there was a blue next to the room

[upbeat plank]

very much so

[obtuse pumice]

is gold bowl just insanely rare or am i getting super unlucky? finding tons of epic scrolls/candles and basically everything but not the damn bowl... 🙁

[distant juniper]

finally reach demigod for the first time

[warm tendon]

Look in the expensive chests, marvelous, gold, lion

[distant juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/pitou-neferpitou-hxh-hunter-x-hunter-cute-gif-16276057663802310517

[obtuse pumice]

bro.. finally found it and its fucking legendary in norms.. this game is troling

[sturdy coral]

ive found many just from pulling piles

[obtuse pumice]

on my 10th run of bladehand atm, its so silly i swear i sold like 2000 of them before i needed it

finally got it, just needed to cry a bit and it worked

[heady trench]

with arena do you have to use just looted/crafted gear in order to not lose it? havent played in a while

[warm tendon]

No you can bring anything up to epic and you will keep it

[heady trench]

okay and anything legendary has to be found? or do you just lose that regardless?

[warm tendon]

The gear limit is Epic

and you keep everything you bring

[heady trench]

oh okay bet thanks for info

[inland harbor]

does knowledge/spellcasting speed affect the speed of resurection?

[warm tendon]

yes it does

[crystal imp]

why did they remove boss from squire to riches?\

[swift grove]

for the cleric spell, yes. for rez tables, more magic interaction speed (will) means faster rez

[bronze hornet]

make it so that jolly time heals like a bandage. so that it heals no recoverable health

[feral karma]

The current gear limit is epic, and you keep gear regardless of if you found it or purchased it, but they are removing the gear cap soon so you can bring Uniques, and Artifacts into arena.

[glad bluff]

Is there a cap on magical damage penetration?

[zenith raven]

no

[echo sparrow]

is it only me but i am trying to take character and the hole game crashes i dont think i that its my pc cause i got 3070 and r5 9600x

[zenith raven]

but you shouldnt stack that

cuz it is useless

[zenith raven]

you need 5090

[echo sparrow]

lol

water cooled too?

[glad bluff]

really? if I get it magic pen up to 100% then I shouldnt I be hitting for the full amount of damage my spells are doing?

[feral karma]

Try verifying files, then restarting steam. If that doesn't work try a fresh install, that's what I did to solve my crashing issues.

[echo sparrow]

i play on blacksmith laucher lol

[feral karma]

Skip the first step.

[echo sparrow]

XD

[feral karma]

I am unsure if you can verify files on blacksmith, I haven't used it in a long time.

[echo sparrow]

do any1 know if i can migrate it to steam i did it back when they took it off from epic

[zenith raven]

it also means you can only do base dmg

[feral karma]

https://darkanddarker.com/support/search/33948096999828

[echo sparrow]

@feral karma ur a chad but it says account before summer 24 and i aint that og and dad is now working after i restarted my pc

i started when the golden edition was for free on epic over a year ago

[feral karma]

I would send a ticket to customer support.

[past bloom]

When is the last week for Epic rarity Arenas?

[wet dust]

17-19 probably, since 20 onwards is all gear

[past bloom]

Thank you

[spark vapor]

What is the purpose of fame for the characters?

[tawny shore]

Do gearscore lobbies exist? Are they skill based? Like whats the balancing going on

If i queue solo norms in squire am i gonna get matched with gigabis blues who're level 500+

Also i take back everything kind i said about rogues, remove double jump

[cinder oxide]

my friend is still on the blacksmith launcher and has squire status even though he bought the game on blacksmith
doesn't see an option to link with steam
is he cooked chat

[woeful bluff]

Probably not that high of gear score. But norms ir rare and below gear. Hr is any gear

[woeful bluff]

Idk about blacksmith, but is there a free to play and 30 dollar price for full game? And I feel like switching to steam isnt available anymore, but hopefully someone who knows for sure can answer

[vapid furnace]

when is wipe

[woeful bluff]

28th

[vapid furnace]

ty

[tawny shore]

What i mean is whats the matchmaking system they use

I'm not great at PvP and wanna get better, i don't think i will get better if i'm getting pitted against 2000hr players

[woeful bluff]

Well, the only way to get better is to face those players. If you're rolling everyone, you wont really get better. You could get a group and do squire to riches, then you wont face blue bis people. But you can kill blue bis in squire if you got the skills for it, or want to get better. But yeah, if you're in norms, youll face blue bis people. Or at least 1 or 2 a round. Games dead

[blissful stirrup]

currently i dont think there is any way to link to steam but you should be able to purchase legendary edition within the game no matter the launcher

[tawny shore]

But i won't be rolling everyone. I'm bad at pvp remember

I wanna get better by starting small and facing players on my skill level

Going to the deep end immediately would just be more stressful

[woeful bluff]

Id just hop into norms in squire. Lose nothing, gain everything. Get into all the fights and youll improve. The deep end would be going into hr in squire.

If you really want we can duo and Ill carry you as much as I can in norms. Shouldn't be too hard. We can do ice map too and probably only face 1 or 2 teams a round. Start small there. And get you some blue bis. @tawny shore

[frail merlin]

@edgy sable Please have warden permission to share links outside of the ones listed here in the rules: https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/988366930165530686

[devout lily]

Yes but there will also be like more than half the teams wearing squire

[feral karma]

There aren't gearscore brackets anymore, arguably every game mode regardless of gear is skill based to a point. You can solo queue normals and get matched against players wearing blue BiS that is always a possibility in all game modes. Squire to riches would even the playing field, but players could find higher quality gear in there, but it wouldn't be full gemmed kits.

[tawny shore]

Nah i wanna try getting better at PvP solo before i try doing more group stuff

Too chaotic when teams of multiple people are involved

[edgy sable]

#dnd-content message

?

[cloud walrus]

sme one who want t cme whit me and farm

[neat urchin]

besides the volcano tears, what other merchants have cosmetic rewards this season

bonus points if you mention what the reward is

[blissful stirrup]

goblin merchant gives you "emotional breakdown" emote and tavernmaster will give you "toxic torch"

[unique locust]

@glad thunder seriously need to fix your game the amount of speed hackers in this game is insanity, everyone has been questioning if movement speed is just not meta but that's not the problem. You have full plate fighters/ full leather barbs running down 315-320 movement speed people with 280. Player count will rise if you just IP ban people instead of Account banning. The amount of 30 fame people this season is all the cheaters who were banned and made a new account. Love the Game but hate the playerbase surrounding the game as it seems cheating is acceptable in this game with no penalty. Make the Ban on Cheaters Actually Worthful.

[feral karma]

Final quest cosmetic rewards
Collector: Squat Rest
Tavern Master: Toxic Torch
Goblin Merchant: Emotional Breakdown

[feral karma]

Do you happen to have any recordings of any of that?

[unique locust]

@feral karma I should become a streamer and have clips at this point, i had no idea season 8 was so prominent in cheaters. however as for people who have played this game im sure getting rolled with good gear on by a 30 fame person is a common occurence..

[devout monolith]

what a load of crap so if you try to open a red gate and someone ice bolts you you stop the cast? or am i just erratic

[feral karma]

Well if you are encountering cheating like that you should definitely make clips, you could help make a difference by submitting it via tickets. 🙂

[unique locust]

@feral karma as i said in the first post banning isn't doing anything they just make a new account immediately after and get it to 20 running artifacts after that from teams they've wiped previous. This game in particular having ESP or some kind of Wall hacks gives you a very unfair advantage. The Game has always been a third party type of playstyle however ive played almost every season and i can say the Third Parties are 100% perfectly timed as if they can see when people die and how low you are. That is another issue i will not get into however. Account Banning is doing nothing for this game.

[echo sparrow]

how do i get the tear of the volcano

[woeful bluff]

If you change you mind, let me know. But duos is good, not nearly as crazy as trios. Especially since it would be in norms. Ill be here!

[tawny shore]

Appreciate it

[feral karma]

Well they are banning people and it is making a difference. I would say if your experience is that you are encountering players that are cheating you should get Medal/Outplayed and start recording things like that to report it. I would be happy to look at and pass on any recordings you end up making.

[thin patio]

@tropic fjord @zinc sparrow @glad thunder hey lets restrict cleric out of arena

[pseudo blaze]

Is demon lock good in PvP

Like meleeing with the unarmed demon form

It seems to do no damage and has terrible reach

[feral karma]

Yes Demon Lock is good, but I would say if you run it use Dark Offering and Play with a healer, it will be far stronger.

Eh, I wouldn't mainly use the claws, I would use them if you have to heal, but I would use a Halberd, or a Longsword.

[pseudo blaze]

I don’t see how it out dps’s anything in solos though

Oh

That’s where I went wrong lol

[feral karma]

I wouldn't run Demonlock/DO in solos, it has to be babysat.

but a demonlock kit with spells is viable but expensive.

[pseudo blaze]

What’s good for solos

[feral karma]

I mean almost everything is viable, but in my opinion I find Fighter, Ranger, and Barbarian to be easier to play.

[tawny shore]

With warlock? Misquito

[pseudo blaze]

i meant warlock builds

[tawny shore]

Mosquito them with phantomize

[pseudo blaze]

just curse and phantomize?

[edgy sable]

Watch e6gene hitting em with the druid absoltely disgusting but you need 700apm to do it

[tawny shore]

Ofc always run hydra for zoning

[pseudo blaze]

whats best in white and blue gear

[tawny shore]

But i say curse+phantom is the easiest

[edgy sable]

Smite DP Cleric. (Whatever cheeser class you wanna invets in bis blue gear)

[tawny shore]

Then gear yourself out with your choice of gear for health and damage

[pseudo blaze]

whats dp?

[edgy sable]

You could make a blues fighter kit that probably has like 65% pdr and then you just walk at some guy not geared and he doesn't do damage unless he's a spell caster

[edgy sable]

Divine protection

[tawny shore]

Divine protection

[pseudo blaze]

its the most op class for white and blues?

[wispy warren]

Is arena still on?

[pseudo blaze]

like squire gear and whatever I find in game lol

[tawny shore]

I personally like smite judgement on my cleric

[pseudo blaze]

is what class I want

[edgy sable]

The skill is like 15% physical damage reducction or something, you just activate your skill and box the guy. If they are too dumb to walk away they lose. You have to close the gap tho cause cleric has no ranged.

[tawny shore]

I say any class can preform in squire gear

[tawny shore]

But muh sling

[wispy warren]

Is arena still going?

[pseudo blaze]

ty

i just want to chase people down and kill them lol

[tawny shore]

Play druid

[edgy sable]

pdr fighter with long sword and adrenaline rush with sprint

[tawny shore]

Best chaser

[tawny shore]

"Longer sword" 💔

[edgy sable]

lol opps

[tawny shore]

As if LS wasn't long enough, it only gets long and longer

[edgy sable]

artifact version, 'even longer sword'

slower attack animations but longer weapon model / range