game-discussion

[zinc hollow]

Bard so goated but I did 2-3 wipes spamming the buff rotation and im so over it by now lmao

[livid onyx]

Yeah shriek of weakness alone makes the class goated

Killing cave troll in 45 seconds in base gear.

[zinc hollow]

Also think sorc rn is god tier

Wins every melee and you can just kite till your cooldowns are back

[mystic sky]

You mean longbow fighter 😂

I've tried to make bard dissonance work for multiple seasons now but everything is shit on bard except having mega expensive kits

[zinc hollow]

Yes precisely

Or recurve

Or surv

Lmfao

Dissonance was good before they nerfed it

[mystic sky]

Legendary rapier or viola with +10 add damage or more, tons of physical healing and an inventory full of ale that costs like 500 every game

[zinc hollow]

One of my boys does dissonance ale bard and it cooks

Idk about this meta tho

[zinc hollow]

Hypothetically you’re dropping that ale for a 10k kit after you kill someone

[mystic sky]

I'd like to know how cause I've tried a million times and it's crap. It's even unusable in teams because it still hits your own team

But the other buffs are too important

[zinc hollow]

Are you sure? I’ve def had him dissonance next to me and it doesn’t silence

Are you thinking peacmaking

[livid onyx]

I'm surprised I don't see any bards using peacemaking with double caster comps

[mystic sky]

No, unless they fixed dissonance. I haven't tried it in teams this season

[zinc hollow]

Give it a try I swear it doesn’t silence your team

[livid onyx]

You'd think with melee sorcs/ BoC casterlocks peacemaking could be goated

[zinc hollow]

This a hidden comp

[mystic sky]

Thanks for that, will try it out eventually

[zinc hollow]

Don’t let them know

[mystic sky]

I think one sorc and two bards spamming may be bis

[tribal zodiac]

it wont, cuz ms is currently stupid and they can outrun even bard/rogue.
Buuuut its definitly decent

[zinc hollow]

I’d say 2 sorcs 1 bard so you can rotate sorc cooldowns

[livid onyx]

I have a dream, that firewall into glaciate /stoneskin + ED while peacemaking is an instant W

[mystic sky]

You have like a 10 second gap if it's just one bard playing peacemaker though, you need 2 bards

[livid onyx]

Two bards with one caster would be diabolical

[zinc hollow]

Yeah idk I’ve never tried a peacemaking comp, only gotten clapped by it in arena lol

[mystic sky]

Hit me up if you wanna try that xD

[tribal zodiac]

btw to be fair, bard should get some cooldown on songs- i mean offensive songs

[livid onyx]

Just go demon and burn+ Dark bolt spam

Cuz huehuehuehuehue

[mystic sky]

How about warlocks get cooldowns on their spam?

[zinc hollow]

Nah I think bard fine without a cooldown

I would like every class to have the same level of options as bard and warlock

[tribal zodiac]

already spaming Suggestions etc to get atleast hydra charges.

[mystic sky]

I'd like them to not be able to heal off of their own hydra. What's the logic behind that?

You create something with 10hp, heal 50hp off of it (???)

[zinc hollow]

Lmfao can’t argue with that

Just let me put an ent in a door again

[mystic sky]

In arena any caster warlock I go against self heals themselves more than I can heal my entire party as cleric

[zinc hollow]

Also this chat is so much less r word than the tavern it’s not even funny

[granite bluff]

Honestly depends on the day

[edgy sable]

Did they fix sorc from being really good at melee for some odd design reason yet ?

Revert THAT patch

[silent geyser]

Free BT and Pulv running around on US west duos

They are W key bots so freebies

[mystic sky]

Time for the squire warlock gang to go scoop those up

[silent geyser]

I was following them trolling on naked smokepot rogue

[devout venture]

is it only me or the game is lagging ?

[wise turret]

are the ghostking circles supposed to despawn after a while?

[granite bluff]

Yeah but it def takes a bit for them to disappear

[cerulean mason]

well for 1 its a spell sword type class and 2 its not even that good

its really easy to kill

sorc needs more buffs really

1 fireball from a wiz does more damage than like 4-8 spells from a sorc

[livid onyx]

Legit my full charge DO lock heals from 1 to full in 3 seconds

[white nexus]

I am such a bot, I legit jumped through the window and didn't realise, I was suppose to open the lever for the drawbridge but instead I drowned with all of my stuff

Peak

[sonic maple]

Uh

[livid onyx]

Had to put your hand on his shoulder here huh?

[sonic maple]

[mystic sky]

💀

[noble verge]

Magical healing and scaling on healing is broken rn

[edgy sable]

we could buff it by deleting it and giving all its spells to wizard

[livid onyx]

This and a lack of reliable anti heal for all classes.

[sonic maple]

Whatchu gonna do bout it

[livid onyx]

Restricted to Wizard, warlock and cleric

Chicken peck should reduce healing by 70%!

[sonic maple]

Rogues poison

[livid onyx]

True

[sonic maple]

Does so much

[noble verge]

You gotta get 5 stacks up lmao

[livid onyx]

Forgot about that

[livid onyx]

Before they added that I wanted poison to increase debuffs by 10% per stack

[feral crescent]

Gotta be trolling

[sonic maple]

Sorc hybrid is pretty strong

[noble verge]

Nah what’s strong is longsword and what’s insane is spectral blade

[feral crescent]

Hahaha peak death, gotta drown before you swim, you got it next time chief

[fast mist]

may i ask a begginer quesion

[feral crescent]

Facts. Pair it with tank build and it's harder to deal with than fighters in a melee duel

[noble verge]

Yup. It can out trade fighters who aren’t as good at parry or have lower action speed. Ask me how I know.

Pdr fighters*

Action speed with longsword is just insane and a free 5% as on a weapon is op in current meta.

[feral crescent]

And the additional head shot damage, I swing my flanged stick with a high action speed cleric build, rocking divine protection and mess up one swing and get parried because the flanged mace was the most predictable attack pattern in the game lmao and then get decapitated by a spell slinger. Classic.

And yes I know I'm the kettle calling the pot black by being a cleric and complaining 😂

[livid onyx]

I forgot that SDF wants Faustian back in HR, catch me teaming with timmies to take down BIS players with my nightmare bolas

[reef thicket]

when is wipe?

[mystic sky]

lmao

[rapid vapor]

End of April

[mystic sky]

That's the best way to put gear out of circulation imo, make players have fun ensuring no one gets it

[reef thicket]

and at then end will arena be artefact?

[rapid vapor]

No idea

[reef thicket]

sad

[native pine]

how do i get my stuff back after PVE mode death

[reef thicket]

the goblin

[native pine]

how long does he take?

[reef thicket]

10m

[native pine]

ty

[vagrant fulcrum]

Sometimes it's can be a few minutes after the match ends, not just after your death. Once the floor's timer is completed, plus a few minutes maybe.

[elder vigil]

nerf cleric. cleric=legal cheat

[feral crescent]

1500 hours on my cleric. Can confirm.

Hear me out. bring back Multiclass. Wait wait wait, bring it back at end of wipe once the season ends and in that small window before the next one begins. Let us just get silly again with absolute nonsense. Sdf come on, do me this one solid.

[severe ridge]

if you say sorc is not good i have no words honestly..

[south canopy]

fwrog was speaking some bs in his last video @little summit aint done shit to make the game better lmfao ts still dead af and boring

[waxen temple]

bro been on for almost an hour yapping ts

[mystic sky]

Did you die to a smite cleric or judgement?

[young vessel]

fr

[mystic sky]

People will eventually learn you can just run away from clerics smh

I got caught by one once because he took an invis pot and landmined me, and once you get hit with smite you can't run away. But other than that they're the most pitifully slow class in the entire game

[young vessel]

in good gear they can easily be 310+ hands out rn lol, also if your only choice against a melee class is to run (even if you're a fighter or barb) isn't that kind of broken ?

[mystic sky]

You could ask warlocks the same thing. When they have demon or BoC what exactly can you do but run away?

Cleric needs like 20 agility or even more to hit 310ms

[young vessel]

I'll agree those things are too strong too

[mystic sky]

Warlock has it by default

I actually have 311 ms on barb in my usual blue kit, I just run around trolling people. You sacrifice a lot to get that much agility, on cleric it's even worse

[young vessel]

Warlock only has 2 more base agility than cleric wdym

I guess 5 if u count shards

[mystic sky]

Lemme check, because I've seen a lot of warlocks wearing boff that have almost 300 with plate armor on

No extra agility

[young vessel]

aint no way lol

maybe if the plate they're wearing is a chapel and the rest is cloth

[south canopy]

cuz im trying to find ppl lmfao been a hour to find 4 ppl

[cerulean mason]

i wasnt saying its entirely not good, sorc is def good

and a lot better than how its been

[mystic sky]

Stuff like tophelm, trousers and the warlock exclusive chest piece. And I'm pretty sure the guy I saw only had a couple of pieces like good boots and loose trousers and he was at 298 or so with really good PDR

They don't really need much with all the bs they get

And they usually use phantomize to chase people if they're not running spells, so that's an extra 5%, like 10 ms

Cleric needs to get way more agi to match that, and less PDR, and they don't get any extra move speed abilities, so I wouldn't compare them

[iron smelt]

Cleric is 3x better than warlock wdym

You don't need agi on cleric

[mystic sky]

Hello Warlock main lmao

[iron smelt]

Hello cleric main

Stop with the class bias

[mystic sky]

I don't play Cleric anymore, the class sucks in solos. But there's a reason a lot of warlocks are going basically squire in HR and getting artifacts

[iron smelt]

Ok you're ragebaiting

[mystic sky]

Nah I'll prove it, let me take some pictures

[haughty mist]

been gone a while. whats wrong with the game rn

[mystic sky]

Actually, I can't send pictures here, but on just squire gear, you can build a cleric with the flimsiest clothing to have 300ms with only 20% PDR, and on warlock you can have almost 30% for like 299ms, with BoC and phantomize, which boosts it to like 310

And you get way way more MDR than any other class too

If you want a Cleric that can match those numbers you'd need to dump like 15 extra agility and get a lot of extra PDR/MDR on your gear, and even then you may not even get there

A Cleric with decent PDR is usually under 290ms

Maybe if you take off the hat and use lizard skin and you don't care much about PDR you could have a faster cleric (still buying more agi), and then have fun dying in 2 hits

[slow grail]

Arena needs a lot of love.

Griefers by pass the punish system by simply damaging teammates down to 1 and simply standing in the doorway. Please include more anti grief features into arena specifically.

You earn less and less AR the more you play which doesn’t make any sense.

It’s on a 4 day cooldown, weekend only. A lot of people work on the weekends.

Please remove mobs, in their place I suggest adding one Lions head chest to the center of every arena map.
This adds incentive to engage instead of camping by spawn door and waiting for border

[brave kelp]

does dark magaic damage bonus stack with kumas fang ?

[livid onyx]

Yes

[brave kelp]

w thanks

[hearty peak]

can i ghost spectral attacks as warlock?

i mean this aoe one when u need to crouch/jump

[keen mauve]

If you mean his "Die" charge attack yes you can

[solid cypress]

You still get gear back in PvE if you kill yourself?

[feral crescent]

No the part about default Boclocks just running in boof for free artifacts is legit, every lobby I either die in or extract out of there's always at least one lock with headshot damage gear or default and a orange halli, it's cooked rn

[hearty peak]

idk if its "die" but yeah this charge one when u need to duck/jump and it almost reach whole map

[plain turret]

when was the last wipe?

[keen mauve]

He literally says die during that

but yes you can phantomize that attack

[silver smelt]

next one is planned at the end of april

[feral crescent]

You should be able too, you might need to pay but the goblin should get all the non consumable equipment you wore back for you.but if you exit to lobby i can't guarantee it comes back

[solid cypress]

I forgot immortal lament and was testing my DO zirk meme beam kit and killed myself lmao I hope it comes back😂

[feral crescent]

Haha that's one way to die. I've found that you normally have to wait for the dungeon to close, meaning all players have left or gone down, then it does all the collection stuff

[solid cypress]

Just got it back. Thank god lol

[kindred notch]

does anyone know what cosmetic questlines are out in full

[placid coyote]

Buff Shapeshift Druid PLS

[granite bluff]

I got your answer buddy boy

[tardy horizon]

I love how IM fuckin lies

[paper vault]

What’s a good move speed for tm warlock in solos? And what about squads?

[tardy horizon]

I have Goblin merchant maxed, died where noone would get me, and got 1 piece of gear back

Goblin merchant affinity doesnt mean shit

[granite bluff]

Was it HR?

[tardy horizon]

Yes

But they said, that with max Affinity, you could get all your gear back

[granite bluff]

Yeah sometimes gobbo merchant sucks for HR

[tardy horizon]

Which I have

[tardy horizon]

I love when they just fuckin lie

Past 3 days of this game have just been miserable. Think Im done for the wipe

[livid onyx]

You don't get all your gear back they didn't say all in HR.

[tardy horizon]

They baseline said that maxing goblin affinity means you would be able to get all your gear back

[granite bluff]

Yeah its def not all your gear back in HR… but sometimes the gobbo merchant be stingy

Like ive even worn boof in a few times, and got like 2 pieces back from gobbo… no one was looting that junk… no idea how it determines the # of items coming back

I think you onlyget the full kit back in PVE… maybe norms PVP too?

[tardy horizon]

Pre wipe interview they said that youd be able to get it all back with enough affinity

[kindred notch]

remember how you threw a big tantrum cause you didnt mind your own business and no one agreed with you lmao

[tardy horizon]

Would have been nice if they said otherwise at any other point

[kindred notch]

even blocked this dork cant leave me alone.

[granite bluff]

You didnt even understand what you were talking about lol

[kindred notch]

sure buddy whatever you say

[granite bluff]

Yeah im not sure exactly

[granite bluff]

Thought you blocked me… move on chief

[kindred notch]

i did lmao, but you replied to me and i can still see that

[granite bluff]

You seem upset rn tbh

[kindred notch]

is every waking moment of yours spent in these two cahnnels cause you have no friends to actually play the game with?

im chilling bro

lighting up rn

[granite bluff]

Chilling while crying lol

[kindred notch]

projection at its finest. adorable

[granite bluff]

Arguing with someone you “blocked”

[kindred notch]

idk if youve blocked many people but their messages show up just hidden lmao

[granite bluff]

No shit lol

[kindred notch]

then i shouldnt have to explain it to you lil bro

[granite bluff]

You so smart you must have a college degree

[kindred notch]

you're*

nw i got you

[granite bluff]

Thanks so much chief

Now move on

[livid onyx]

• The Goblin Merchant will recover items based on your affinity to him. For the PvE Dungeons he will always return your lost loot when possible. For the Normal and HR Dungeons you’ll need to increase your affinity improve your changes of a goblin recovery. You’ll start at zero but each bump in affinity will improve your odds of getting back lost gear.

[kindred notch]

hey you replied to me first bud lmao

again, projection

[granite bluff]

Whatever you say lol

[livid onyx]

There's a typo in the announcement but increasing affinity improves your chances of getting more gear back it doesn't guarantee it.

[tardy horizon]

Yes, but they typically leave patch announcements pretty vague. IN an interview right before the wipe, they said that with enough affinity, you would get your full kits back

It just sucks when they say something in those, and it just ends up being 100% false

[livid onyx]

Maybe it's full recovery for normals with max affinity, were you in normals or HR?

[tardy horizon]

Hr

But again, they jsut baseline said

I get that it was a prewipe interview, just wish that they would keep it a little more vague if they arent done with it yet

Cause I was tired of losing full gearsets, so I spent a day just going and doing every Goblin merchant quest

Now it feels like a waste lol

[granite bluff]

I would love to go back to the QnA to find where they discussed it, but that QnA was so awfully slowpaced and a yap fest, i cant get myself to rewatch 😂

[livid onyx]

I think the issue with HR having full recovery was players would just hide their bodies and self delete when being chased with no escape, fully recovering their gear.

I posted the most recent announcement on goblin recovery, it doesn't say full recovery for anything but PvE

[keen drift]

guys why the hell the game doesnt load for me each i time i try to log in it says fauiled to connect to server please quit the game

[wispy garden]

whens wipe

[keen drift]

anyone help please

[livid onyx]

Running as admin?

[keen drift]

let me try

can we get into a call? i really wanna play

[livid onyx]

Hope it works if so, cuz I've had that issue with it not being ran as admin.

[livid onyx]

On a call rn and on the bus home or I would

[keen drift]

oh thank you but please stay here if it doesnt work thank you bro

[livid onyx]

Also are you on Wifi?

[keen drift]

yeah

[livid onyx]

Could possibly be ping is too high to allow for a stable connection

But I'm not sure

[keen drift]

i cantfind it on my desktop how to create an app

[livid onyx]

Find the blacksmith launcher/ check steam, run as administrator

Open properties, look for run as administrator

[bitter kelp]

What quests are giving cosmetics/emots this wipe?

[keen drift]

it says run it from the launcher

[livid onyx]

Steam or the blacksmith launcher?

[keen drift]

steam

still didnt run

i ran steam as admin didnt work

any recommendations

[livid onyx]

You right clicked Dark and Darker on steam and selected to launch as admin?

[keen drift]

i didnt find it inside steam so i ran steam as admin

if you where it is tell me please

[livid onyx]

Right click dark and darker, im not home so I can't see steam, but it should be a setting somewhere when you right click the game.

[keen drift]

there is no such thing

[livid onyx]

I'm almost home I'll check for you

[maiden prism]

Are u getting an error?

[pastel walrus]

Does neckbite stop second wind

[keen drift]

yes cannot connect to server please quit the game

[maiden prism]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/comments/1lpxgge/how_to_fix_cannot_connect_to_server_quit_the_game/ maybe there is smth to help

[keen drift]

nothing worked

screw these servers bro

asss

[maiden prism]

Also have u tried stopping taverncom in task manger and resart steam completely?

[livid onyx]

Right click, installed files, browse files, right click Dark and Darker, properties, compatibility, check run as admin box

[maiden prism]

https://youtube.com/shorts/xKi9GzTyxAk?is=eG6b7ylnNffdfULN

This is what fixed every error for me, but if you use ur in-game settings gets reset but only the settings...I helped me but not with the same error so idk

[keen drift]

ok wait im trying the first fix

[tropic sandal]

how is the game now, good?

[livid onyx]

What did you like about it before?

[south copper]

still no pregnant goblin, sigh

[subtle birch]

quick will the expressman take a gold chest out

[maiden prism]

I mean, I have fun, pvp isn't balanced but just running dungeons feels alright...

[subtle birch]

for the love of god please answer me asap will the expressman take a gold chest out for me

[pallid hemlock]

boof and goofer to the high heavens lad

[pallid hemlock]

you are the test rat, no one knows

[subtle birch]

it costs 0 im so nervous

YEEEEEESSSSSS

[quiet stump]

Day 1 billion of asking ironmace to make more female skins for us ladies 🥀🥀🥀

[paper vault]

if I get more affinity with the goldsmith, can I craft blue jewerly?

[quiet stump]

Yes

[paper vault]

U know how many quests it takes?

[quiet stump]

No I do not. At least two to three

[steel jolt]

how long is has season been goin on

[paper vault]

Aight, thanks

[quiet stump]

Almost a couple months

[steel jolt]

does that mean new season soon?

[quiet stump]

Wipe is end of April

Yes

[steel jolt]

kk thx

[quiet stump]

Yep

[subtle birch]

There's the exact same amount of male/female skins wtf are you talking about

[quiet stump]

Nope there’s not. Look yourself. Dark elf female elf female and the dwarf

[granite bluff]

There is a female and male dwarf skin for sure

[subtle birch]

just checked. theres a dark elf, elf, and dwarf female. all the other base characters have a female option. so again wtf are you talking about

[cinder oxide]

the only ones that don't have a female version are the mobs i'm p sure, and its arguable that those don't have a gender

[quiet stump]

Cool guy being aggressive. I’m not talking about base skins

[granite bluff]

They need to discern between female and male skeleton skin bone structures

Only way to make the game fair

[subtle birch]

cool girl* being aggressive. im not a guy snowflake

[quiet stump]

So funny I type out something innocent and there’s always some aggressive person looking to make a fight

[quiet stump]

👍👏👏👏👏

[subtle birch]

complain more, wittle victim :~(

[quiet stump]

❤️

[subtle birch]

"I DESERVE MORE WEPWESENTATION IN A DYING FANTASY GAME"

[quiet stump]

I’m a lover not a fighter

I truly hope you have a better night than what you’re portraying friend

[subtle birch]

Sweetheart we aren't friends and you being a goofy didnt ruin my night

[cinder oxide]

oh actually forgot about the lizardmen
so there is that actually
GIVE US LIZARDWOMEN
(probably a mistake)

[quiet stump]

Realy?

[subtle birch]

the lizards are trans!

[whole acorn]

take it to dm's no need for that nonsense in this discord 🙂

[quiet stump]

Exactly

Thank you I’m done here

[subtle birch]

good. glad we wont hear anymore complaints about representation in here and people can just enjoy the game

[whole acorn]

.> what did i just say

[subtle birch]

i was just throwing it out there. wasn't directed at anyone god scholar

[fringe garnet]

Can't we all just be friends

[whole acorn]

silly gooses, so how are we feeling about the game?

[fringe garnet]

Depressionnnn

[subtle birch]

still love it. just pulled a chest out of a pile

[fringe garnet]

we let a named gear team get away

[quiet stump]

I’m trying to become a friendly knight I am not engaging anymore! Have a great night everyone ❤️

[whole acorn]

well stop it

[cinder oxide]

god scholar is funny I might have to steal that one

[neat urchin]

which servers has better players, east or west

[subtle birch]

you gotta kiss mod booty or they get upsetti spaghetti

[whole acorn]

imo east

[whole acorn]

ew no, just gotta follow the rules of the discord. Super simple

[fringe garnet]

somebody touch my spaghetti

[subtle birch]

we were having a discussion about the game

[neat urchin]

you can pet a pet, but can you people a person?

[subtle birch]

yes but it usually has a prison sentence

[neat urchin]

xD

[scarlet wharf]

the banter in chat needs to be taken to Tavern, not here

this is for game discussion

[subtle birch]

the banter was about game discussion

[molten parcel]

How do you get the crafting ability for the unique jewelry? Figured it was level goldsmith all the way but I have all his quests done and only can craft legendary necks and rings highest grade

[edgy sable]

Here here, when will they add The Map Genie!

[subtle birch]

everyone in here please remember only be friendly at all times and even if someone else says something stupid make sure you are very very nice to them

[vagrant fulcrum]

^ Or block them, and report them 🙂

[edgy sable]

It's a hardcore dungeon experience in which I can literally kill someone and take all their possessions, BUT! If they voip something mean to me that's where we draw the line!

[subtle birch]

That's right! we dont want mods to get angry! they are very sensitive and take unpaid work very seriously

[edgy sable]

killing and looting corpses < saying a mean thing 😄

[subtle birch]

blocking and reporting is for cowards. handle your business on your own without having to go tell like an adult

[fervent pond]

hey so like when the [curse word] will these [offensive language] [another curse word] devs put ACTUAL controller support into the game? Just a question I ask myself once a week.

[edgy sable]

if skinnypete can use some weird pen im sure you can hack in ctorller, btw solar bear does it some how with xbox controller i think

[fervent pond]

i want official support 🙁

[fringe garnet]

Spamton

[subtle heart]

If I hit Demi god by spamming water map can I still brag about having it or do I just quietly take the rewards?

[ruby ore]

Who would know

Although that much time into water map alone is worth tbh after 4 runs im bored of the map

[elfin fern]

DELETE PURGE SHIT

[toxic blaze]

what does tranquility scale with? it says it has 25% scaling but I thought it didnt scale with anything

[honest cedar]

So happy I get to see the News notification every single time I log in.

• spaghetti code

[edgy sable]

lol igot that the other day and thought of that guy in chat that borught it up

[honest cedar]

that guy was probably me STILL bishing about it

[edgy sable]

Yea I was giving you a shoutout

I think it was you

[lethal vortex]

why are full plate fighters holding halberds faster than casters i don't understand

[vague quest]

They arent.
But swift, adren rush, counter attack, all help with movespeed

[subtle heart]

Why does nobody drink ales apart from bards and clerics? It makes a decent difference.

Ik it makes more for them but still

[clear pendant]

they both got a perk for avoiding drunk state

[subtle heart]

Drunk state ain’t that bad just aim like normal and focus only on the enemy

[clear pendant]

at this point i dont know if this is ragebait or just trolling

[keen mauve]

Probably both

[fringe garnet]

I don't like being drunk

[hearty peak]

possible to use golden key in inferno?

or only crypts

[violet ivy]

Whats an item worth 10k

[vagrant fulcrum]

Wyvern Egg

[quiet stump]

😂

[edgy sable]

The term you’re reaching for is ludonarrative dissonance—when what the game lets you do clashes with what the game (or its rules) pretends the world is about. 🎯

[clear cradle]

what gives most ap now on extracting gear or collectables

[oak geyser]

which classes are ok in squire?

or like really good in squire?

fighter, barbarian

[indigo edge]

how come they took jewelry out of the loot pool?

[hearty ginkgo]

just fighter

and warlock

[indigo edge]

i never see any rings or amulets

[hearty ginkgo]

gotta buy them now boy

gimme those shinies

[oak geyser]

what build on warlock?

[severe pine]

anyone here willing to kill wyvern for me so i can finish tavern master quest?

[indigo edge]

where do you find Awls for the goldsmith

[vague quest]

barb, fighter, bard, sorc too

smite+dp cleric is also good

[hearty ginkgo]

blow of corruption, plate armor, spells

magic staff

on gear, you cant really build much

[sonic maple]

Bless your heart

[sonic maple]

Lol yes

[edgy sable]

Introduce some nasty fall damage

[severe coyote]

running full arti in full unique bis as a duo in ice caverns. lol. Lots of clowns at the end of this wipe. Gear lobbies really need to make a comeback.

[fickle marlin]

fall damage would shake things up

[fickle marlin]

90% rats

[severe coyote]

sadly with the state of the playerbase if you end up in map lobby with someone like that you'll likely just be running maps with them over and over. Pretty big bummer tbh

[fringe surge]

AirRowHed, and YourAWWarlockHarry is teaming in solos ice caves!

[severe coyote]

vidcap it and report, ez ban tbh.

[fringe surge]

Heard!

[edgy sable]

Its a hardcore dungeon but no teaming allowed!

[wraith egret]

somebody just invited me with a shake hand emote in pve mode, how do u do that

[keen mauve]

Y

I think

need to be empty handed

[edgy sable]

put weapon away hit u i think

or y

smash all the keys on the keyboard

[sonic maple]

Y

Says it in top left

[wraith egret]

ahh damn, good to know thx, its only for pve mode right?

[fickle marlin]

They should allow teaming if you're being teamed ON.

[tender tree]

wut iis this game?

[vapid oyster]

it's dark

[tender tree]

found the server, am interested

i like dark

[feral sequoia]

hey i havent pvped in a min so this might be dumb but why is everyone running Qstaff?? im getting gapped by it over and over and im not playing bad and im running good slayer gear. who tf made stick meta??

[granite pendant]

stick has always been meta, people just didn't realize it
it is the defacto face check

[mild crag]

I cant explain it more to you than its really good for barb and anyone rn really especially with action speed, if im guessing its probally to due with the weapon hit box system making it so if your too close with a spear, halibard or any weapon that isnt a sword/ dagger allowing you to hit with the head of the weapons or the half dealing significantly less dammage id imagine qstaff bypasses this hitbox type thing

[granite pendant]

also qstaff doesn't have a sourspot

[fossil hare]

dark pop doing good or still low?

[fast shore]

Nameds in ice is ideal. Less chance of third party. Lock in and kill them. Ice teams are mid at best. Instead of complaining just lock in and kill them? Skill issue

[toxic mantle]

give druid an animal companion that you can give commands to as an ability similar to a spell wheel. follow player, defend area, report back when it sees a player, etc.

[slate spindle]

my god this game is dying

[undone kiln]

why is plate so good

[mild crag]

any tips on ways to cheese enemies easily like yetis being unable to hit sitting players or couching dwarfs if their looking down enough

[sour scaffold]

maybe a dumb question if i drink a prot pot then go invis on rogue does that show?

[honest roost]

this game is shit rat rouges in corners just waitng

[stone oak]

any and all counterplay to it has been removed or nerfed

[pallid hemlock]

Ol Squirelly!!! None other than Squirrelbrain Druid Fan himself!!!

[subtle goblet]

still low

[undone kiln]

ah

like i said

only way to play the game is with the meta now

[zenith summit]

what does the weaponsmith "out of the dark" quest reward you for completion?

[wraith egret]

magical healing perk / bonust stat as a cleric gonna give more heals to others aswell right? not just for me

[honest dirge]

how do u type too someone in a raid?

[sullen anchor]

you need their character name, then /w [name]

for example, if you wanted to whisper my rogue, it’d be /w Moroke1

and then you type your message

you can get their name one of two ways iirc

have them do the party gesture, then you get their name

[sullen anchor]

three ways

play pickpocket rogue and look at their interact prompt

or die and spectate them

[zenith summit]

what does the weaponsmith "out of the dark" quest reward you for completion?

[honest dirge]

awesome. thankks

!

[heady flower]

Is there I known glitch or bug where your gear just disappears from you when you log back on? Like I swear I survived my last raid and I log on at a different computer many hours later and the same character is Im squire gear with everything gone

[sullen anchor]

couple things, same character?

is the gear in you stash?

[silent geyser]

Breh doing all of gobos quest still doesn't guarantee your stuff back if its not taken???...tough

[sullen anchor]

it’s gambling :)

[heady flower]

Nah the whole kit and inventory, it was like I died, and no I looked in every character stash and squire storage

Like the gear I got that raid and put away was still there but like all my pots bolts and kit and everything is gone and replaced with my squire gear, i texted my buddy that I played my last game with to confirm I am not going crazy and we survived the raid

[silent geyser]

Yea let's not gamble with my loot, we can gamble with his...if its not getting scooped then go ahead and send it back my way

[sullen anchor]

i got nothing

[heady flower]

Yeah I am waiting for my buddy to confirm because I had a turbo kit on but I was also at the end of a long ass no sleep sesh, I am hoping I just don't remember dying but if he still has his kit then I'll put in a report and take the L on the bug

[sullen anchor]

the only thing i know of is if the gear is found in raid then it can RARELY disappear due to a bug, but that’s the only one i know abt

[vague quest]

Cant do it anymore, they removed the functionally because snowflakes cried when people whispered them "git gud"

You can only whisper friends now

[noble verge]

Oh was that what they were saying? Git gud?

[vague quest]

Honestly, yeah, most of the time it was tame

And those people could always just turn off whispers in settings

Instead of crying and punishing everybody

[noble verge]

I think barb needs more nerfs. How about-10 agility +10 resourcefulness

[vague quest]

thats a buff ngl

[noble verge]

Barbs should never be able to catch ranges

[vague quest]

they dont

unless their full ms

but -5 wouldnt do anything

[noble verge]

Long sword needs a buff

[fresh basalt]

@main lintel sorry for killing u

u want some of the gear back?

[main lintel]

nah its all rubbish i grabbed of some other guy some zero to hero matches

thanks but enjoy it 🙂

[fresh basalt]

👍

[zenith summit]

what does the weaponsmith "out of the dark" quest reward you for completion?

[reef onyx]

Would also like to know, saw kill 10 +10+10 And thought no thanks

[vale robin]

This season reignited my love for this game. Even after hitting demi-god Ive been playing regularly because it feels like I can actually get gear (I am a bit of a noob and only play solo), I was able to use my first artifacts that I farmed the gold for myself (instead of ratting a nip on rogue)

Most of my hours this season have been squire-to-riches with me just pickpocketing and fucking with other adventurers. It has been so fun.

[edgy sable]

happens to everyone

maps should be 40 minute long so you can turn off all the lights in map

[vague quest]

top 10 takes of all time

dark and where the fuck are the lights

[fluid cliff]

faustian bargain is so fun. untapped potential. squires to riches is especially fun when running straight at a team dropping a person dying then becoming a monster

[vale robin]

I’ve been doing this

It actually looks oppressive in goblin caves

[fluid cliff]

ranger hell

[edgy sable]

We can hit a nasty lights off group up if you want

duo high roll roller lights off meta but you cant dual class anymore can u

[vale robin]

Sadly no

[edgy sable]

does it say anywhere in notes they updated the ai in regards to invisible because it certaintly feels like they did

[fluid cliff]

ive personally been loving this seasons guns.

[edgy sable]

🔫

[vale robin]

For me the novelty of the gun wore off when I realized I could be using a windlass on ranger and be better 20x the dps

[edgy sable]

I liked when they put the barbs super spinner move

[vale robin]

And hitting shots easier

And for fighter just be a chad and use double melee, or if you REALLY want ranged take a sling like a REAL gamer

Sling >>>> gun

[edgy sable]

slangin that thang on em eh

[fluid cliff]

i wish faustian was repeatable

as in the quests

[brittle wing]

game is so unplayable with all these cheaters

[edgy sable]

im cheating right now i go in squire gear and then when i die they didnt get anything, feels illegal but apparently they let you do it

[brittle wing]

sounds about right

[night citrus]

sadly there always been cheaters, with them announcing wipe, they just out a lot more because the player base is so low.

[brittle wing]

i'm getting spawn rushed so much

[silent geyser]

You die to the ranger+fighter duo with the heatseeking longbows?

[fervent anvil]

Getting spawn rushed doesnt mean people are cheating. Some people just like rushing

[brittle wing]

some of them might be like that, but i am suspicious when it's a 0 fame guy rushing in from middle

even though it might be racist, them being chinese doesn't help

[vague quest]

thats all ya had to say bro

[brittle wing]

😭

[narrow carbon]

just randomly been banned for 'investigation' can someone help me figure out where I can appeal or query this? I have not done anything wrong

[brittle wing]

i think you need to wait for a day

for the investigation to be over

[shrewd stream]

same happened to me and my friend.

[narrow carbon]

when did that happen? have you done anything about it?

[shrewd stream]

in the middle of dungeon. we got the dc and the terminated message and when we tried to log back in we got he ban message

[narrow carbon]

was this today?

[shrewd stream]

just right now

[narrow carbon]

crazy crazy

[fluid cliff]

is it at all worth it to upgrade the workshops

and with that which questline is the most beneficial

[wise turret]

why do the xiaos play oce server

[mellow igloo]

does gob questline still give artifact?

[subtle goblet]

To get away from the cheaters in their region

[hardy stump]

it literally was a single time thing during mini-wipe, and before you inevitable ask, no, arena is not ssf, no, there will be no artifact arena

[vagrant fulcrum]

Most likely not this season, no. From my understanding, that was a one-time thing they wanted to try during a wipe.

[scenic lake]

Wipe end of April right?

[wise turret]

so theyd rather not have a fair fight on their own servers

[snow apex]

any news of the new class?

[hardy stump]

the news is: Delayed to next season

If there is next season and there is no new class, re-read the above

we're still waiting for rogue and ranger rework mid-this wipe

[snow apex]

Hoping they add Paladin and Death Knight class in the game

[hardy stump]

You already have platelock and since we're waiting for monk for a year now, I wouldn't hold much hopes for palading, cleric rework perk at most

there is also no such thing as death knioght in D&D and the pattern is basic D&D classes

[snow apex]

Monk ey? Dark and Darker is made from a chivalry mod.. it would be inconsistent to add that class into the game and besides.. from a medieval historical standpoint.. how do you kill someone in full armor with your bare hands?

[hardy stump]

it very much is not

[young vessel]

0/10 bait

[reef onyx]

Idk how paladin would work when there is cleric

[meager marsh]

so where do i go to report people

[sturdy coral]

Esc -> support

[supple blaze]

what affects druid transform is it knowledge or resourcefulness?

[reef onyx]

Time it takes to transform - knowledge. Transformation cooldowns. - resourcefulness

I think

[supple blaze]

interesting

I keep seeing 50-60 resourcefulness druids in all my solo HR maelstrom lobbies and I'm trying to figure out why

treasure pile farmers?

[heavy crater]

yeah has to be

[reef onyx]

Looting Piles and also cooldown on penguin 🐧 ms buff. Can move around super fast

[heavy crater]

ohhhh that makes sense

[supple blaze]

I didn't even think of that

[heavy crater]

the speed boost on penguin is probably so fast with 60 res LOL

[supple blaze]

refresh penguin cd fast enough to just run from everyone

thank you guys for the brainstorming, I'm not doing allat I respect their grind

[reef onyx]

Ye I guess. Doesnt make it faster just u can use it alot more often

Most boring way to play

[heavy crater]

you literally can probably have it popped every 5 seconds 😭

[supple blaze]

the current state of my whimsical knight game mannnn

[heavy crater]

ngl water map is super slow so i dont even blame those guys, i refuse to play the map solo the last few days because of how slow the movement is

[reef onyx]

Ye 😆

[supple blaze]

rogues can't invis underwater, I found a safe space somewhat

[heavy crater]

in trios though i cant shake the addiction pvp on water is goated 😭 everyones gonna h8 me for that comment but im pre doubling down LOL

[reef onyx]

It is slow , but I like the change of pace compared to other maps sometimes

[supple blaze]

I only play ice caverns or maelstrom and the last 3 days has been me getting blown up by DB rogues I was over it

[reef onyx]

I play solo PvP HR water map alot, I dig it

[heavy crater]

my survival rate on water compared to the rest of the maps is significantly higher

even in trios / duos its still higher

[reef onyx]

Yip

[supple blaze]

it's so easy to get in and get out with a inventory of purple valuables

[heavy crater]

idk what it is but as soon as i load into crypts i have the chinese gold farmers running me down !

https://giphy.com/gifs/theoffice-7Xov9qZ44Mq0qkCN9Q

[supple blaze]

I watched 4 druids beating the stingray down yesterday, in solos

[heavy crater]

HR?

[reef onyx]

People hating on ice caves because of mob density but with warlock its fine

[heavy crater]

ive noticed alot of druids trying to be friendly and i absolutely hate druid v druid pvp so i just try and scare them off but ffs they just surrender and emote at me LOL

[supple blaze]

I hope wipe heals this game, teaming is everywhere in HR

turn a druid into a porcupine and he jumps in the slipstream so his fighter waiting down the slipstream can save him, in solos, then I watch them loot my body together, first game of the day mind you.

https://tenor.com/view/agony-gif-23084585

[plush berry]

guys

whats a good loadout for fighter from squire

shield and mace build

[golden forge]

its fine with anything

mobs are just a bit harder

but map is open as hell xd

[reef onyx]

Ye , less playing door and doorer

[golden forge]

yeeessss

[tawny kindle]

does anyone know if it is useful running any race that doesnt wear a helmet? you lose alot of potential on gear running those races, so why even do it?

[tropic stump]

It used to be worth it in gear score lobbies, now maybe in squire to riches for 15% HS damage reduction without move speed penalty

[brittle wing]

crocs are worth it if you're squire

4 str or 4 dex

even on low gear it's p good

[tawny kindle]

why do i see so many people in HR with it tho, may they be not on the brightest side?

[tropic stump]

I used to run lizard skin with savage barb for max MS

[brittle wing]

i just told you

[tawny kindle]

ah

[short siren]

Does anyone know if thorn of earth blocks lich slow orb?

[tawny kindle]

so just for ms i see

[tawny kindle]

could be worth it true

[sleek plank]

resourcefullness increases buff duration, for natures touch and decreases perk cd such as dreamwalk or spiriit

[abstract valve]

Why do people build debuff duration on demon warlock what does it help with?

[sleek plank]

curse is a debuf

[glad musk]

Heater and Morningstar

At least my opinion

[sleek plank]

that is resourcefulness. dark reflection isnt a debuff, and there isn't a duration, you are speaking of cooldown.

[eternal vigil]

the chienese teaming farmers in this game in west is out of fucking control

[sturdy coral]

it’s 6am west coast time

[vagrant fulcrum]

Are you reporting them?
Also, have you considered joining Ironguard? #📢community-announcements message

[eternal vigil]

of course but itll be nextg month by the time i see any names pop up that theyve been banned

[swift grove]

banned? lol 0/14 on enforcer status. that includes 6 players looting piles together in HR (def not teaming), 1 bard who was shooting true shot arrows underwater with a blue surv bow (def not cheating) and 2 players I spectated cheesing a boss (def not e ploiting)
the anti-cheat is a joke, don't try to make sense of ity

its security theater - meant to make it seem like there is enforcement when there isn't. only automated bans for "investigation" that expire in 3 days with no outcome.... just "get back in there, you little rascal!"

[lost tree]

Move sling to the hot bar instead of a weapon slot / allow fighter to use bear traps when using weapon mastery / reduce the move speed penalty of all shields / allow pavise to block damage from behind while its holstered on your back / when pavise is placed down it gives 60 armor rating to you and your team similar to banner but different

[royal stream]

does anyone have the stats/math/chances for goblin merchant working? just died in hr and only got 3 items back whne i know noone looted me

[subtle goblet]

Temp ban at worst if they get banned at all

[subtle goblet]

Getting people to police the game like this is our job lmao, can't we just play the game for fun?

[minor shore]

Is fighter still the easiest to farm stingray? Or is there an easier one?

[swift grove]

sorc can iceblock the phases and has one of the easiest parries (longsword)

[swift grove]

thats about right. 3-4 items at max affinity outside of PVE. in PVE its 100% recovery regardless of affinity

[swift grove]

will increases buff duration, not resourcefulness (unless you're bard. reso increases bard song base duration)
the reso druids are either chicken builds or there to loot piles/ore

reso is for cooldown reduction as well, but druids dont need that

dreamwalk coming back faster is based on debuff duration, as its a debuff that applies preventing you from entering dreamwalk again. the faster that debuff expires, the sooner you can dreamwalk again

[rigid hornet]

Where do I get ceremonial dagger and scroll? The wiki's loot drop lists are broken so whoever responds with "look it up" will have to solo a barbarian inside of an outhouse.

[oak geyser]

Can warlock be enough range for an otherwise melee team? Or should i just go ranger

[swift grove]

lions head chests in pve/norms

[rigid hornet]

Thank you!

[swift grove]

depends on the build. darkbolts hurt if you build for it

curses do fine but if your team really wants to chunk players before committing, you want the juicy darkbolts

[odd ermine]

yeah right buff Sorcerer the most Cancer class except warlock

[rigid hornet]

Yesterday a barbarian main was complaining about anything ranged being op, so obviously anything ranged is too much.

[granite bluff]

Does PDR % stat circumvent things like reckless attack or armor pen that strictly reduce armor rating?

I’ve heard building armor until around 325ish armor rating is better bang for buck PDR wise, but wonder if its worth to just gem for PDR % to reduce efficiency of enemy armor reducing abilities

[supple marten]

Give us chocolate chip muffin

[granite bluff]

Banana nut muffin plz

[supple marten]

You right

[minor shore]

Oh I thought spells couldn't be cast underwater makes sense

[swift grove]

only fire and air spells are prevented underwater. iceblock is water+earth

[minor shore]

Well how about that

[swift grove]

just wait for the backflip before you let the iceblock go for phase 3, or it'll wear off too soon

[valid shoal]

Does anyone else think the Workshop shouldn't take money when scrapping ? Its too expensive

[swift grove]

its 5 gold per scrap on epics dude

[minor shore]

If you need money 10 minutes in water map you can easily get 3k on a bad run

[swift grove]

you can sell epic scrap for 7x what it costs to make it

i think the cost is fine

[paper vault]

How?

I haven’t played water map yet

[minor shore]

Barnacles always give you treasure, so just either farming those or the pile in middle

[swift grove]

you can make that much on ANY map. gold is easy to come by especially with the introduction of scrap and quest items to sell on marketplace

just learn what is valuable and pick it up

I make 1500g per ruins run on avg in PVE mode. just kill bosses and loot stuff

[minor shore]

Yeah I was just focusing how you can swim straight to pile or barnacles rather than module jump. Easier for new ppl, imo of course prob wrong

[swift grove]

no, you're not wrong... water map is easy money... but they all are especially late wipe. games dead, just go take the money

[minor shore]

Truuueeeee

[swift grove]

nobody is there to stop you

[paper vault]

Gotcha thanks

[valid shoal]

yeah that does not sound expensive, but compare that to market. I don't think its relevant in comparison. When would I ever get my money back or profit ?

[swift grove]

what?

actually nm idc anymore. you right, my fault

[spare flare]

MAKE POSSIBLE TO CHOOSE NOT TO PLAY WATERMAP IN SQUIRE TO RICHES!

[sturdy coral]

no

[clear jasper]

Anyone know when ranger rouge rework will come out?

[sturdy coral]

learn the map if you’re gonna play a random rotation

[swift grove]

Soon(TM)

while you wait, consider learning an instrument, or a new language. maybe you could solve the energy crisis

itll be here very soon, but while you wait... have you considered your retirement options?

[spare flare]

no one wanna play water map, its a trash

[feral karma]

Water map is my favorite map.

🫂

[valid shoal]

Sorry bro, I'm not trying to ragebait. I'm new to the workshop mechanic, trying to figure out how I can enhance gear and be profitable.

[sturdy coral]

ur the one diffed by z axis

[subtle goblet]

let people hate it, means more loot for us

[feral karma]

A lot of people just bandwagon, the maps not perfect but it's more than fine.

[subtle goblet]

Let them, more loot for us who aren't sooks

[feral karma]

Sooks?

[mystic sky]

Water map is fun if you rush pvp island

[quaint hedge]

Key room is free a lot of the time too. You dont even need to learn the bosses to have a chance for a named.

[livid onyx]

The current cost is inflated but enhancing strength base pieces with perfect rolls seems to be the future for making money with workshop next wipe, I think it's too expensive rn to turn a regular profit. But it still serves to craft/ enhance gear that doesn't exist on the market rn.

[ornate spear]

Where's that at for my own future reference

[reef onyx]

I think workshops is only really worth enhancing +3 +3 blues into near perfect arena purples. And selling scraps. I don't think it's worth doing anything else

[red owl]

would be usefull to add a damage test to the expressman when you take red

[sturdy coral]

reroll on high value crafts is def worth but again that’s 3 levels to get there lol

[reef onyx]

I found it better to just craft more of whatever than pay over 2k to reroll? You need to reroll like 5 times sometimes that's over 10k

[sturdy coral]

I was thinking the legend crafts, def worth for a couple before you’re at a loss

at least some of the pieces, selling for 5~6k from what I saw the other day

[reef onyx]

Mmm idk I'll have suss it out again

[sturdy coral]

yeah I was exploring it yesterday with some gold plate but don’t have the lvl workshop for it yet

[reef onyx]

Me neither, but ye there might be some profit there... but then again to upgrade to that point costs alot...

[sturdy coral]

yeah totally that’s my big qualm rn. It doesn’t get kind-of worth til the later levels and it costs a lot to get there

[reef onyx]

A bit like doing cockatrice quests

[livid onyx]

At the current costs sure, I don't think scrapping/enhancing will cost as much as it does next wipe. They had to deal with gold dupes this time around

[reef onyx]

Was thinking the same.

[sturdy coral]

hey I get epic gems sometimes!! 🤣

[elfin oracle]

are there quests for item skins and such like every season? or is it just artifacts this go around?

[reef onyx]

I got a single Leggo gem 🐓

[mystic sky]

It's the island that looks like a circle in the map, northwest of the whirlwind in the middle

It's s huge spiraling island with a secret entrance at the base underwater, there's always pvp there

[ornate spear]

ah the torn sail spawn?

[sturdy coral]

worth

[reef onyx]

🐓 🥀

[sturdy coral]

yeah that one. I’ve seen ppl call it spire, spiral, mid, tower… pretty much anything but it’s real name

[ornate spear]

we call it torn sail spawn in my hometown.

[ornate spear]

W chicken

[rustic mist]

chicken will never be worth

[astral atlas]

whens the game going to wipe?

[subtle heart]

Even with 160 mdr I still barely win vs a squire Wiz as a Barb shits crazy

And there’s literally nothing you can do vs them

[fervent anvil]

get them to waste their spells, catch them off of doors, use throwing axes

[subtle heart]

I knew saying it wasn’t possible would be more likely to get me an answer than asking for help lol

[fervent anvil]

you can ask for help. theres a good amount of people here that will respond to someone asking for help

[granite bluff]

Hit em with that Achilles strike franny and then smack em

[subtle heart]

That’s genius but I ain’t building all this mdr AND using a caster beating perk I need some mele perks to make up for the lack of pdr

I mean that’s just my opinion

[granite bluff]

Achilles is good for more than just caster… help ya catch rogues and rangers too… but i feel ya

Its also good for recklass too, you can slow someone and almost guarantee a recklass attack hesdshot

[swift grove]

end of april is the plan. could change

[dusky spruce]

Expressman stuff still not count for AP or did they ever change the rules on that?

[livid onyx]

Doesn't count, a protip is prioritize keeping small trinkets and expressman the larger treasures as a purple 2x2 water pot is worth the same AP as a purple 1x1 bangle

[dusky spruce]

Thanks. Right, i remember that part about smaller bits being worth more overall. Just wondering if they had ever changed expressman to compensate the loss of AP from descending which i recall getting pretty much removed.

Doesn't seem like there's much point in lingering on the top floors, then, unless im just monster farming

[livid onyx]

My go to is cave troll/ cyclops, the precious rock and mirror are both worth 200 AP each, and the marv chests are like 15-20 AP on top of the 50 ap boss kill.

Easily 600+ a game for a 8~ minute investment

[dusky spruce]

Good run if you can do it without getting jumped, but thats the type of run you can do without being geared so... probably not a bad call.

[livid onyx]

Yeah, haven't seen much action at cave troll since the price of pelts dropped, like maybe one person every 1/3 games actually goes for troll

The statics are usually super safe to take at the last minute so even if someone's there u can stall out until the last 4 minutes in base gear and then kill troll grab rock and run

[chilly saddle]

Hey, can someone explain where to find blood platforms? I feel like I've explorefd all modules but haven't found it

[royal stream]

is it better to make the intricate wooden figure or to just sell epic logs? how much is it even worth?

[granite bluff]

Its in inferno, it has a resurrection shrine with a berseker infront of it…. Has a wraith on the upper part near a health shrine… has rubysilver nodes up top and below

If you check dark and darker wiki site, should be able to pull up inferno map to see the module image

[chilly saddle]

been to the inferno a lot bu must have missed it repeatedly as i still need it for tailor quest

[granite bluff]

It’s usually there… def try google DaD wiki to check for the module image and then you wont miss it

[chilly saddle]

will do thank you

[granite bluff]

You’re welcome

[gritty loom]

do headshots multipliers also apply to magic?

[dusky spruce]

On "projectiles", yes.

So a darkbolt for example would count, but a curse would not.

As a rule, if it moves it probably counts. if its hitscan, probably not. Unsure about Zap.

Focused hitscan stuff definitely doesn't count

That can sorta work out to a benefit though. Means you can hit legs for full damage with dark beam or flamethrower

[vocal fractal]

terrible balancing. 0 skill detected in this video game. everyone just abuses how strong HP / reductions are. hit someone double the amount they hit you and they still win. just build HP and Reductions you cant lose!!

[chilly saddle]

Those builds have the problem of being slow or dying to say landmine rogue

[vocal fractal]

its craazy how many people are in denial/cope with it. those builds shouldnt do that much dmg!!!

[chilly saddle]

so cleric, barb, fighter with pdr? they meet a sorc or caster from a distance then they can't catch them and have to lure

[hearty peak]

do we know when they release exclusive last quest's?

[vocal fractal]

oh wow i cant just walk at someone with all my hp and resists?!? not fair!! make them all do even less dmg!!

brainded hp/resistance stacking gameplay

[chilly saddle]

... what exactly is your arguement? and i just told you to then play a class that work against it if it troubles you. It can be countered by movement and tactics if you use your head

[vocal fractal]

you cant read?

out-move/out-maneuver all you want they still get hit 10+ times and only hit you 2-3 times. big skill.

they can tank all the dmg AND still do that much dmg? that is my problem

[chilly saddle]

if they can hit. and weakspot rogue can 3 stab to the head of a high pdr fighter. but it sounds like you have made up your mind so i will leave you to your belief

[vocal fractal]

it just doesnt seem fair those builds get it all. feels like most gearsets should prioritize hp and reductions because they can still get away with doing dumb amounts of damage. why build anything else?

[livid onyx]

We're you a fan of movement speed rolls on gear?

[vocal fractal]

not really

move speed meta is worse than hp/resist meta.

[livid onyx]

So what stats would you enjoy having the opportunity to build outside of health, damage, or reduction?

[vocal fractal]

i just wish the dmg actually made sense. they should definitely take more hits to kill. but they should be losing out on damage and having to hit more themselves, right?

[ashen drift]

anyone have a map where all the piles are on water map?

[stuck gulch]

trash its all garbage they should being back the game to the first wipe they just keep nuking it its sad i likeed the game but now its just so not fun to play

[livid onyx]

I think I see your point, focusing on damage should make you weaker in other areas? Like if someone wants to deal a lot of damage they shouldn't also be hard to kill?

[vocal fractal]

agreed! i just dont think the balance is there at the moment. it feels heavily favored to the reduction builder!

[frank sable]

Eated soap

[cobalt hearth]

Which boss does drop the war maul artifact?

[supple blaze]

The Ray I think or random pull from locked door gold piles

[spiral totem]

anyone know why I cant post in the dnd-clips page? I put my youtube link, it posts for .1s then deletes it and says I have to wait 6 hours to post again.... ??

[sturdy coral]

I think clips only allows uploaded vids? content is for links (then u can fwd it from there)

[charred veldt]

When patch

[granite bluff]

At some point this year (maybe Thurs tho)

[granite vigil]

are servers down?

[sonic maple]

Ita been the melee wipe

[ashen drift]

what drops rusted key? Does worm not drop it anymore

(ruins)

[indigo valve]

Golden chests or coffers

[royal stream]

anyone know the chance for gobo recovery? on maximum and on 225

[noble verge]

You really don’t see the contradiction here?

You don’t hit as hard if they have resistance 😆

[restive lichen]

Add the option to exclude rogues and players below lvl 20 from your random teammates in normals!!

[hard pelican]

Bro BoC with magic staff is so broken 😭

[vocal fractal]

you dont see it either? they build resistances but still do damage?

[kindred patio]

any tips for fire colos? What is easiest class to run it? I know nothing currently - 1 phase is easy, but im dying on phase 2 - i feel like im 2 slow

[noble verge]

You gotta pick between the two. Even with stuff like rubysilver its much harder to get well rolled items so it’s all a tradeoff.

[vocal fractal]

still makes no sense that a person focusing on HP and RESIST. will still do MORE DMG than the person building DMG.

[sturdy coral]

but that’s not how it works right? every affix that’s +armor pen or +headshot dmg is not +pdr or +magic resist

some classes like rogue have a naturally higher baseline of offensive stats but it’s still true for them

[vocal fractal]

explain why fighter only need to hit 3 times to kill but need to get hit 10+ times to die.

[full jacinth]

So, you think they'll stop this game jw? I was looking at player counts over the year and it doesnt seem we are hitting above 10-12k peack start of season, and then its dropping to lows of 3-5k people after a couple weeks of the start. Is there enough revenue to continue development?

[vocal fractal]

explain why any class that builds HP and damage reduction. is still doing that much damage

how do u not seeee

me build damge REDUCTION. not damage BONUS. me still hit you less and win

where skill

[full jacinth]

Its honestly cause of how strong Additional Damage is. I feel likes its factoring AFTER resistances. meaning it still essentially does full damage and chunks you.

[lime pine]

Any idea how long does the 10% ms decrease last for heavy swing?

[full jacinth]

.75 to 1.25 seconds. it just makes your melee hit slow them more than normal.

its not really worth.

imo experience.

[sturdy coral]

bc they wear armor with diff tradeoffs?

[sturdy coral]

they’re using affixes on their gear to stack dmg ?

[hard pelican]

You're not just building dmg reduction on melee classes its a secondary stat you're also stacking add phys dmg and str/phys power which scales with add phys dmg

[sturdy coral]

the armor choices you make and the affix choices you make are 2 diff parts together making your build

[hard pelican]

TLDR don't run towards a barb or fighter and assume you're gonna win in the melee thats not how it works

[vocal fractal]

im not saying they should take less damage. i am saying they should do less dmg!

[lime pine]

Yeah it felt that way, I sometimes can squeeze in one more hit when they are running away, but most of the time when fighting melees it doesn't feels like any difference. ~1second is really long though for a 10% MS reduction, I think it's a lot shorter

[sturdy coral]

why? They’re stacking strength and dmg lol

they’re paying for it in their builds

[vocal fractal]

how bad is it to want them to hit me 1 or 2 more times when i have to hit them 10+?

[hard pelican]

I don't think he gets this

[vocal fractal]

delulu

[sturdy coral]

somebody is fs

[vocal fractal]

thinking hp and reduction takes skill sure is

[sturdy coral]

like take fighter as example - if they are full pdr with dmg rolls, they fold to spells

like in seconds they’re chunked out

[hard pelican]

What class are you playing where you're trying to beat a PDR fighter in melee btw

[vocal fractal]

as they should! i just think those classes should have to hit 1, 2, 3 more times is all

[coarse ridge]

build ur character different then

[lime pine]

They fold to rogues under 4 hits too. PDR is a joke rn.

[hard pelican]

Yeah armor pen is crazy rn PDR fighters aren't even meta

[vocal fractal]

armor pen is only meta because pdr is sooo dumb

[hard pelican]

Build a PDR fighter kit just to get one tapped by a reckless barb

[sturdy coral]

so what ur saying is (maybe) plate and heavier armor should have less impact to dmg? certain items shouldn’t roll dmg rolls? but then the big dmg low armor ppl are rampant

[vocal fractal]

???????????????????

[sturdy coral]

pdr is “meta” bc of rangers, then magic dmg is “meta” and the counter is barb, then we’re back to armor pen to get thru the tanks lol

it’s all a circle of strong stuff countering each other

[hard pelican]

This entire game is rock paper scissors

But hearing someone say PDR fighters do too much dmg is hilarious

[lime pine]

Armor pen basically nullify the core identity of fighter. Imagine fighting a rogue that's 170 hp and 50% PDR, and also 4 hits you with a dagger....

[vocal fractal]

thats what im saying for EVERY class that builds HPD and PDR/MDR. they should be doing wayyy less dmg

[lime pine]

If they remove armorpen rogues, and make fighter have way less MDR, it would be quite OK imo

[hard pelican]

Exactly the entire meta of HR is building HP/PDR on every class not just fighter while you also dont have easy access to armor pen on fighter like some classes do so i dont understand why this guy is harping on fighters so hard

[coarse ridge]

then no one would be playing those classes if all the other classes out dps them

[vocal fractal]

the people that build full dmg are already pretty easy to kill

[hard pelican]

This just sounds like someone who got too overconfident and charged at a plate fighter and lost his kit

[sturdy coral]

but the trade off for tankiness is ur move speed, assuming ur stacking affixes all dmg too

[vocal fractal]

Fights where you hit somebody double the amount of times that they hit you feel awful. Getting hit more times should = losing fight.

[hard pelican]

Cope essentially

[coarse ridge]

that be so boring if it always meant u got hit more then ur losing

[sturdy coral]

unlucky go next, maybe tweak that build include some more dmg so you can win

[hard pelican]

Plate fighters being literally one of the weakest archetypes this season

[noble verge]

Spectral Blade is OP though, gives pdr fighters back everything they’re lacking for free

[coarse ridge]

it would also make people running from fights happen way more often

[noble verge]

Sorry didn’t mean to reply to that lol

[vocal fractal]

keep stacking that hp as high as it can! have fun in the HP resist wipe!

[coarse ridge]

guys complaing about a non issue

[noble verge]

This is way better than ms stacking m

The meta is so much better balanced now

[coarse ridge]

fighter always gonna be my goto

[lime pine]

Bruh, it doesn't matter what you say, one thing we can agree on is that current meta is trash, and Paul need to shove SDF back in the closet and start working on balancing

[tardy willow]

what even is the current meta im still scared of longbow

[sturdy coral]

we did have that though, it was kinda booty bc the game ends up just as run and runner (somehow even worse than today)

[lime pine]

Anything with armor pen imo

[sturdy coral]

like somebody messes up and loses a trade they full w key away and heal. No chance to close

[vocal fractal]

meta is as good as its ever been! Move speed sucked! i just want people that dont build dmg to do less dmg! thats all!!

[sturdy coral]

they already do lol

[tardy willow]

this is true but im still scared of longbow 😨😨😨

[sturdy coral]

you get 1-2 static rolls on gear and 3-4 random rolls

[tardy willow]

Legend has it im still trying to peak

[sturdy coral]

like wtf else you want if they don’t use random rolls for dmg they do not deal enough dmg

[hard pelican]

Like i said this dude is just coping about losing his kit to a PDR fighter

[vocal fractal]

lmao

[hard pelican]

PDR fighters are not op by any means

[vocal fractal]

not what happened

[hard pelican]

You just said you hit him 10 times and lost

So im pretty sure thats what happened

[coarse ridge]

my pdr mdr tank build still works 57% mdr and 68% pdr base kit

[noble verge]

Most op things right now are spectral blade and magical healing scaling/stacking.

Imo

[vocal fractal]

this guy mains stacking hp and resists and doesnt want his dmg nerfed

[noble verge]

I main ranger lmfao

[hard pelican]

I dont even main fighter so no

[coarse ridge]

bro wit this build ur dmg output stinks

[vocal fractal]

not what i said bumm

[hard pelican]

Keep coping about losing to pdr fighters lil bro you'll get it one day

[noble verge]

You seem to think you can do the same dmg when you stack pdr when there is a choice between dmg/movement/effective health

[vocal fractal]

keep coping that hp/ pdr kits do more dmg than dmg kits and youre not meta abusing

[hard pelican]

😂

[coarse ridge]

guy would had a fit couple years ago when u could get two tapped by boc dagger warlock XD

[coarse ridge]

get gud ig dude

[hard pelican]

You get two tapped by boc staff warlock now

One tapped if you hit their dark reflect lol

[coarse ridge]

atleast u got a chance at blocking it now doe

[noble verge]

1 tapped by boc halberd 😉

[long belfry]

Why are people queing hr with an inventory full of cock eggs

[coarse ridge]

blocking a kris dagger such a pain

[vocal fractal]

such a cringe way to think youre good at any video game. build health and resists get hit more times and still win.

[coarse ridge]

big funny

[hard pelican]

If they're beating you doesnt that make them better than you atleast

[coarse ridge]

nah man havent u read anything hes said even tho he lost hes better cuz they r out "metaing" him

[hard pelican]

Plus the TTK is so low rn that even in a PDR kit you'll still get melted it honestly doesnt matter

[vocal fractal]

TTK is so low is what im saying

holy where have you been

[feral karma]

I have a 164 HP Arena kit with 65%MDR, 65% PDR, and like 20% Projectile Resist. It's fun.

[hard pelican]

No what you're saying is PDR kits do too much dmg you never once mentioned TTK lol

[vocal fractal]

build hp and dmg and still have fast ttk

[feral karma]

If you aren't building HP on your kits you're throwing.

[vocal fractal]

yep. only build hp cuz if you build dmg ppl just tank it hit you less and still win.

[feral karma]

??? Lol

[coarse ridge]

a decent slayer fighter that builds dmg will mess up any pdr fighter

[hard pelican]

I lost a 180 hp barb kit to a squire kit BoC staff warlock earlier and even im not coping this hard

[feral karma]

So will a rogue.

[hard pelican]

I wonder what kit bro lost

[coarse ridge]

that too

[feral karma]

Damn, sorry to hear that. I am glad you are getting through it.

[hard pelican]

Lmfao

[feral karma]

🫂

😂

[coarse ridge]

woulda gave up playin barb right then and there XD

[hard pelican]

Im 100% playing bear druid rn 😭

[coarse ridge]

oh god

[vocal fractal]

didnt lose any kits its just a general issue. if you think only building HP and getting your PDR to a certain level is skill then good for you. gotta be the most lame way to play a game.

[feral karma]

How much ASP?

[coarse ridge]

is that even worth getting cancer for XD

[feral karma]

You won't believe this but every class can build HP, and PDR.

[vocal fractal]

holy shi thats what ive been saying

[feral karma]

some classes don't need to and still fold PDR Capped Fighters.

[vocal fractal]

the whole tiem

[hard pelican]

I've given up on getting good action speed literally just stacked 50 str

Druid is def buns rn but still fun ig

[coarse ridge]

no one said it was skill just sayin its a smart thing to do wit any class

no one forcing u to be a glass cannon

[feral karma]

Mixing both is crazy, I can't remember his name but a youtuber use to make a hybrid set up for druid and he built ASP and it was fun to watch.

[feral karma]

Wearing gear is better than being naked.

[hard pelican]

Probably out of my price range rn im struggling to make gold this season

[feral karma]

What are you trying to do for gold?

[coarse ridge]

thats just how any game that has stats work more hp= longer u survive

[feral karma]

Yeah, he's upset like it's a new thing and it's always been that way.

[hard pelican]

PvP mainly but 80% of lobbies are squire kits the other 10% are too juiced for me to fight and the 10% i can fight just run lol

[grand shadow]

how am i supposed to buy anything worth more than 10 blue shards when the max is 10?

[sturdy coral]

it resets every wipe

[coarse ridge]

really i be averaging like 1k-2k g per match just selling a ton of treasure and trinkets

[feral karma]

The cap resets per wipe.

[grand shadow]

that sucks so you have to wait a whole season to buy something

[sturdy coral]

that’s like, the whole point

[coarse ridge]

could also just learn movement/swing patterns to avoid getting hit

[hard pelican]

I don't loot honestly i just run through the map looking for players just this season seems more people are doing squire kit runs than before

[sturdy coral]

rewarding ppl who play over the long term with cooler stuff

[coarse ridge]

not like fighter swings at the speed of light

[grand shadow]

yea that's such a good point, its a great thing when devs make you want to quit playing their game for a season until the next one

[coarse ridge]

fair enough ye notice players seem to be slim pickins this season

[feral karma]

It's meant to encourage you to play multiple seasons, and you can earn stuff you want, or you can buy redstone shards.

[sturdy coral]

r u only playing the game to earn skins? There’s like 3 other ways to do that

[mental garden]

Is the cheat of the month move speed? I'm not seeing the same amount of unlimited hp but now people have magically 360 move speed with a 2H out that arent barb

[sonic maple]

Fighter is very much skill he attac he protec

[feral karma]

What skin is worth so much to you that it was the entire reason you're playing?

[feral karma]

Stinky wizard. 🫂

[coarse ridge]

skins r cool and all but not like their game changing

[feral karma]

Some can be to be fair.

[grand shadow]

game dipping below 10k players on steam charts soon, we need more players to quit instead of just letting people level up passed 10 triumph

[feral karma]

Dwarf is broken.

[hard pelican]

Dwarf skin is pretty cracked ICL

[coarse ridge]

crocodillians only ones that come to mind +4 stats pretty nutty

[feral karma]

People aren't quitting because bluestone is capped at 10x per season, we are far into the wipe man, and arena is disabled right now.

[coarse ridge]

ye but u get hit in the head more often

fought a guy that was using dwarf and i was only able to hit his head cuz of the height difference lol

[sonic maple]

🧀

[hard pelican]

Makes it easier to block and riposte since they cant hit your legs

[feral karma]

Dwarf, Croc, Lycan, and Weapon Damage are strong.

[hard pelican]

The fact that dwarf actually makes your hitbox smaller is what makes it broken

[feral karma]

Mhm, plus the 10% Headshot protection.

[hard pelican]

yeah

[feral karma]

It's super easy to block and riposte on dwarf as well.

I was running it before the buff.

[coarse ridge]

still aint gonna drop 15$ on a skin doe

[feral karma]

Loved it.

[hard pelican]

Yeah i said that above dwarf is just a crazy skin

[feral karma]

You can earn it for free if you want.

[hard pelican]

Dwarf is free though

[coarse ridge]

ye thats wat im doin rn

getting 12 shards is kind of a pain doe ngl

[hard pelican]

Can agree with that

[feral karma]

I wish they would add a Dex Felidian skin to the shop for bluestone.

[sonic maple]

I got it free

[feral karma]

🧀

[coarse ridge]

the seasonal pakc should give like a handful of shards or some to make it more enticing

seasonal stash is cool but not amazing

[feral karma]

That would upset people, I think it's fine how it is currently.

[coarse ridge]

fair enough

[sonic maple]

Dear.... god....

[vast saffron]

Yo dwarf is broken I’ve never used it tho 😂😂

[feral karma]

It is cracked, I run it on a lot of my characters.

My favorite is bard.

[feral karma]

[coarse ridge]

only ever grinded up to demigod one time and i got the tainted heart for my efforts shit was such a let down

[vast saffron]

That’s why the dungeons are filled with dwarves it’s so OP

Best race obv

[mental garden]

demon form needs to be nerfed period too, nobody should be dealing damage while tanking thousands of damage themselves

[sonic maple]

I always have it on but true it was lesser but it was also the easiest season to do dg

[feral karma]

I don't know if I'd use it in dungeon, I run it in arena on almost everything.

[coarse ridge]

ye ig but there were also more players in the dungeons then

made the grind alot more painful

[sonic maple]

Demon is unequivocally the most broken thing right now. If it was more accessible and simple this chat would be nothing but anger about it

[sonic maple]

Bro doesn't know season I game

[feral karma]

Dying once and losing an hour or two of progress.

[coarse ridge]

no idea wat that sentence meant ngl

[sonic maple]

God i loved it. Gave a point to hr leaderboard. Please ironmace bring back hardcore highroller point system

[coarse ridge]

i play every other season tbf played even before they had season rewards

[sonic maple]

It was a cake walk compared to early seasons