game-discussion

[fervent anvil]

yes

[formal vale]

ty

[slow grail]

Arena needs a lot of love.

Griefers by pass the punish system by simply damaging teammates down to 1.

You earn less and less AR the more you play which doesn’t make any sense.

It’s on a 4 day cooldown.

[calm flower]

whats up with west servers im in west pretty much straight lag spikes all game switch to east and lag free

[obsidian linden]

Does anyone know what the range is on explosion for Wiz?

[fast hollow]

Im getting drunk

[golden viper]

can i drop my artifacts in the pve mode and safely get it back after game ?

[vagrant sequoia]

Yes

[graceful bone]

should be two arena game modes, one with and without cleric

[blazing pulsar]

cheaters every lobby is getting old

[honest cedar]

32%pdr on a rogue kit

• goblins still drop you to 40% health in 1 hit

• BALANCED

[keen mauve]

Don't get hit by a goblin?

[honest cedar]

yeah, you're right. Solid logic.

[sweet crow]

When will Demigod rewards be displayed along with the seasonal cosmetic quests unlocked? You guys said the wipe was in April and it's right around the corner... Need to know if the grind will be worth it or a waste of time

[blazing pulsar]

whos ever idea it was to put mobs in arena you know what to do...

[thorny cape]

so does debuff duration actually work on warlock curses

also ive been told it increases the damage tick rate on ray of darkness

[silver smelt]

do you have a clip?

[thick finch]

Anyone know how much catice sell for?

[blazing pulsar]

bunches! which u wanna see first? invisibility, Achilles strike? anti magic, healing spells, silence?

[silver smelt]

allo f them

[granite bluff]

You want them to add more?

[clear pendant]

32 pdr 120hp and you expect to be tanky? goblin will deal magic damage with its dot, how much debuff duration bonus and mdr you have?

[honest cedar]

single swings from dungeon mobs (excluding anything in a boss mini / boss category) shouldn't be taking 60% of your health in 1 hit

[hardy stump]

most obvious phishing scam attempt I've ever seen

[quasi plover]

lol just got hit in the leg by a sorc with elemental bolt, from 130 hp down to less than a quarter

[fringe garnet]

no, no you in fact, do not want to sell a macbook

[fluid gate]

i have 2 bis kits one ranger and one warlock what should i trade them for its hard to find someone to by them and only bow of ranger kit already exceeds my maximum gold limit xd

[sturdy coral]

boy ain’t no way #📢announcements message

[keen mauve]

You think people read annoucements? LMAO

[bronze carbon]

how do we feel about rouges getting slings?

[edgy sable]

wait until you realize you dont actually even have to hold w on those classes thats the real level up

[wintry saddle]

Crazy how a cleric can heal people to max in one move dumb game

[edgy sable]

Sure, that weapon is completely useless it's better to use a handcross bow

[clear pendant]

thats why u should gear properly, so a guy with 160hp 60pdr 60mdr should take 10 damage on hit? what is the whole point of pve then

[edgy sable]

I tried to play cleric with sling and there's just no way that crap is viable as a weapon , its a meme

[bronze carbon]

right at least let a class that would use it use it cleric and druic need melle and casting focus so its a pain to also hold a sling

[edgy sable]

You will hit a guy and do like 20~ damage and we are talking a non bis player

[bronze carbon]

XD still and upgrade on hand crossbow

[edgy sable]

They should give it to barbs , made the most sense since it's like a low tech weapon and barbs are low tech weapon users. Then they could try and pelt you with a rock for 15 whole damage

[cinder oxide]

it could work with a melee cleric build if the reload wasn't insane garbage
Like i think if they made the reload take 1/3 of the time it still wouldn't be great

[nova cipher]

sling shouldnt have a reload just incorporate the reload into the swing animation

[bronze carbon]

valid and barb would be good too

[cinder oxide]

honestly makes sense for rock brain barbs to get the rock weapon

[edgy sable]

I wonder if throwing a franny is better than using sling cause I think you can do it faster

[bronze carbon]

def is

but range on sling is better

[edgy sable]

It does fly pretty straight and at a long distance once you got it going

you can also hold a franny to charge it up tho

[bronze carbon]

hmmmmm worth testing but i best franny for speed sling for distance

[slow grail]

Arena needs a lot of love.

Griefers by pass the punish system by simply damaging teammates down to 1 and simply standing in the doorway. Please include more anti grief features into arena specifically.

You earn less and less AR the more you play which doesn’t make any sense.

It’s on a 4 day cooldown, weekend only. A lot of people work on the weekends.

Please remove mobs, in their place I suggest adding one Lions head chest to the center of every arena map.
This adds incentive to engage instead of camping by spawn door and waiting for border.

[zinc aspen]

I could care less about griefing atm they need to balance that garbage and take out mobs

[feral cradle]

Resident evil 4 ??

[zinc aspen]

and how casters and rangers have the advantage on every map and dominate arena in general

[rigid hornet]

You mean ranged advantage or is there a different issue there?

[zinc aspen]

Ragers and casters shit on everything in arena

maps also favor them

[clear pendant]

check how many barbs and fighters are warlord

[zinc aspen]

More then rangers and like wizard?

Rangers and the biggest shit holes they do way to much dmg with single arrow

[fervent anvil]

8 of the top 10 are more melee classes

[zinc aspen]

I bet tons of people quit this game cuz spam from arrows and spells it’s just awful and ruins fun and really 8 of 10 what about 20 lol

Bard and fighter fit into most teams better too o feel

[fervent anvil]

39 of the top 100 are playing a ranged class. included warlocks and sorcs aswell

[zinc aspen]

If u have any half decent team with ranger wiz ur done

[fervent anvil]

thats the thing with playing in a trios based mode. you have counters to that stuff. you know. like your own ranged stuff

[zinc aspen]

I see only spell and ranger in arena 80% of tome

[fervent anvil]

yeah idk what servers you play on but i mostly see melee classes and the classes that are easier to learn

[zinc aspen]

What server u on

I want on that

[fervent anvil]

eu

[zinc aspen]

I’d pay money for a mode with only melee

[clear pendant]

just play with healer and you will see the difference

[ashen drift]

First time dark and darker player, who are some good streamers to stream snipe for good gear? I heard jontheboat was a good one

[zinc aspen]

Everyone I’ve played with since game released mostly left and cuz rangers specifically

[silver smelt]

you can get in trouble for that

[ashen drift]

For what

[silver smelt]

stream sniping

[ashen drift]

But it’s their fault they streaming not mine

[silver smelt]

they are trying to make a living

[ashen drift]

Nahhh

Not making it streaming dark

[subtle goblet]

They aren't trying very hard if they are playing this game then are they

[edgy sable]

lol you gotta pick em by class!

[upper stratus]

Lul

[dusk jacinth]

How do I get rid of this 'News' notification in game? I keep going into it, clicking all the articles and closing. It goes away until I finish the next game then it comes back

[rigid hornet]

You get rid of it by closing your mind to its golden hue. It may be there next time, it may not, but you will not care either way. 🧘

[craggy hatch]

is the arena finishing in 4min or in 1hour4min?

[pallid hemlock]

"streaming is not optional. getting false banned is" but as a genuine opinion

[vague quest]

in 50 minutes now

[edgy sable]

I can't turn off the stream I need attention!

[subtle goblet]

"Streaming has helped this game so much"- Fishu probably

When it really hasn't

[dense grove]

I was farming Colossus boss with my friend, everything was okay until we faced a bug-abusing team. What happened was, after we killed the boss, we went to the gold room and started looting the pile. While we were looting, one team came out and closed the boss door. Everything was okay until the Wizard locked the door. We thought everything was normal until he started locking it again and again and again. He was running the Meditation skill and Lock spell there is no counterplay. A Squire Wizard can lock you forever and make you lose your BIS, and the bad thing is you can’t even see his name. LOCK SHOULDNT BE WORK ON BOSS DOORS

[swift grove]

what bug? thats what the spell does

[clear pendant]

but hes right they should rework that

[swift grove]

you cast it, it locks the door for X time. if you can recover your spell before the time runs out, its infinite.

[dense grove]

lock shouldnt be work on boss doors

[swift grove]

maybe, maybe not. calling it bug abuse is silly

[dense grove]

squire wizard can make you lose your 6 lad

so yeah this is bug abuse

[sturdy coral]

hahahahahahhahahahahahahah

[granite bluff]

Sorry but this is actually kind of hilarious

[dense grove]

no counter play btw

[sturdy coral]

I can’t believe it hahahahaha

[dense grove]

u just waiting to game end

[sturdy coral]

can’t you escape out the elevator

in the treasure room

[granite bluff]

Im gonna start playing more wizard

[dense grove]

no bro elevator is outside

elevator should be in pile room this can solve the problem

[sturdy coral]

hahahahahaha you can’t break those doors right? The ice ones can be

[dense grove]

nah bro im telling you only thing u can do is waiting to game end and die

[swift grove]

sounds like a hell of a misplay bringing 6 LAD into colossus and cornering yourself. W wizard

[dense grove]

i diddnt lose 6 lad some streamer did

[sturdy coral]

lmfao did you get a clip? submit a bug on the website

[dense grove]

already did

[granite bluff]

Your issue isnt a bug, just misfortune

[dense grove]

im gonna post this everyday until they fix this

[granite bluff]

Well you will be posting until the end of time 😂😂

[dense grove]

if someone do this to big streamers they will fix this next patch

[swift grove]

"I was fighting the warlord and an invis rogue bodyblocked the door. some squire rogue can make you lose your 500k fulgor kit so yea this is bug abuse"

no it still sounds silly when you replace it with other class-specific abilities too

[granite bluff]

😂😂

[wraith egret]

how much time we got to grind the arena for the rewards? the whole season .. or ?

[swift grove]

wizard made a plan and executed

[dense grove]

its not even close what happened to me bro wdym

[swift grove]

w wiz

[granite bluff]

Someone make this into an epic copypasta

[fast shore]

How good are you at pvp? Rewards based on rating

[marble pike]

Magic lock shouldnt be able to lock doors its too strong

[swift grove]

lol

[dense grove]

only boss doors mate

[marble pike]

A door is a door

Dont get backed into a corner if you dont wanna get stuck

[dense grove]

so u saying is kill colossus but dont loot the room

[granite bluff]

Make two wizard spells; magic lock and magic boss room door lock

[dense grove]

this makes sense

[swift grove]

Ive seen people complain about what killed them last for years in this discord. "MAGIC LOCK OP" has to be the funniest one

[marble pike]

Yes

[dense grove]

[hidden wedge]

Whats the most popular thing for me to Queue up for? Solos

[granite bluff]

Landmine armor pen rogue

Everyone will hate you

[hidden wedge]

sorry i meant map and mode

[granite bluff]

Ruins or gobbo

HR been dead lately so maybe just norms pvp

[vital briar]

boss pile room only have one door and if you can lock infinitely its have no coutner play so it makes sense and you cant react when looting colossus pile cuz its long room not like gk room

i think this is only problem for colossus pile

bad exit design

[marble pike]

You could trap people in key rooms too

[vital briar]

yea but key rooms also smaller

[marble pike]

I think its fine just be careful if you decide to enter a dead end

[vital briar]

colossus room way far to door

you cant for that

[hidden wedge]

where are the hotspots for ruins? Ive rushed the cemetery/graveyard area in the top of the map for 5 runs now and only seen 1 dude and its never been looted

[granite bluff]

Honestly if arena is still up then the dungeons might be kinda dead while ppl grind rank

Also the bridge in center of Ruins usually is one of the hot spots too

[zinc aspen]

@glad thunder open arena 24/7

Now

[wraith egret]

how much time we got to grind arena? its the same as high roller right? till next wipe

[elder vigil]

delete arena solo. meaningless on solo queue. only trio user can enjoy this game.

[cinder oxide]

Dear Paul
please give Cleric a perk that influences Will and/or Knowledge total
the other casters except Cleric have this
sincerely
a concerned player

[edgy sable]

Would make a great talent to pick up in the talent tree

[cinder oxide]

it's never coming 😔

[edgy sable]

So easy mode to add

[cinder oxide]

doesn't mean they will 😜

[edgy sable]

🤞🏻

[honest cedar]

Isn't it great that you get the news notification on every class switch.

• great UI

[ocean berry]

can someone help me build a bard?

[lilac skiff]

if i bought the game a few years ago is it the same as legendary?

[sturdy coral]

yea assuming you can log into that account

[lilac skiff]

yeah i can i had to download the launcher from the site instead of using steam

[vague quest]

LOL

W ROGUE

[swift grove]

lol thats what Im sayin. dude was big mad that someone magic locked him and his duo in the colosssus loot area like bruh.... even if it wasnt a magic lock wiz you still prob gettin cooked in there with only one way out

[lilac skiff]

anyone down to help someone just starting out?

[vague quest]

theres 2 doors 😭

[swift grove]

the LOOT room has only one door

[vague quest]

YOU CAN LOCK THAT DOOR??

LMAO

[stoic shadow]

perks for rogue sealth?

[steel matrix]

dagger mastery - 1st perk hide - stealth - thrust and back attack - 2nd perk weakpoint attack

[woeful bluff]

Yo

[woeful bluff]

Ill dm you!

[cinder oxide]

yeah same lol

[clear pendant]

day 4 asking @little summit to buff golden leaf hood to 11 headshot damage reduction

[cinder oxide]

I want spellcaster cleric to be good so bad
maybe just maybe they'll add more attack spells that aren't channel

[sudden sorrel]

what use have obsidian?

[granite bluff]

Mainly just for quest turn ins at this point

[granite bluff]

Also used to craft some legendary jewelry

[neat urchin]

Please for the love of god, fix blocking.

[misty oasis]

when does season end

[proud marsh]

How is the game now ? Havent played in a few months

[hearty peak]

bro, someone here told me goblin merchant give some exclusive for last quest. i try hard all quest's and there is no exclusive..

[swift grove]

that quest isnt out yet

[granite bluff]

The quest should be on the way… i personally thought it was gonna drop this week but then they only dropped the weaponsmith questline on Thurs… think there are still non-cosmetic quests for tailor, leather & amorer so hopefully we see cosemtic quests soon

[swift grove]

theyve been slow dripping the last few quests the past 2 updates

[hearty peak]

ohh.. aight, so also tavern master and collector give exclusive right? or someone else

[swift grove]

yes

[hearty peak]

and that's all? noone else?

[granite bluff]

Just those 3 merchants for cosmetics, yes

[hearty peak]

aight, tyty!

[swift grove]

not cosmetic rewards, no. just those 3 merchants

[elder vigil]

nerf cleric

[noble verge]

Cleric is cracked

[winter mist]

just died to spectral knight because it was desynced from the server. I see it walking accross the room and suddenly im dead from it headshotting me

[hidden wedge]

what cleric build is good rn?

[fickle rose]

is anyone else just repeatedly getting "failed to connect" when they load the game up

[spare ridge]

yea happened to me i almost drowned in water map

[vague quest]

literally any

[elder vigil]

Clerics are ruining team comp diversity. I don't like the situation where we are forced to either run a Cleric or bring an anti-heal character.

[hearty peak]

yea desync is crazy, servers are laggy as well

[delicate skiff]

ive been dropping frames but only while fighting blade hand, any fixes?

[undone kiln]

why the fuck do staffs do so much damage

[flat nymph]

Staves be staving.

[pallid hemlock]

SDF never did quite figure it out, unfortunately. here we are

[slender pivot]

anyone know a discord for sell big big item ?

[mental garden]

I mean pretty much, and healing in a lot of ways. It just encourages cleric/barb/fighter and stuff like that which really can't seem to lose. The amount of damage we just did to them my last game to just die because they can't ever die was insane.

[pure trout]

I now understand why people in HR murder squire kids

this mf I let him live cuz hes a naked bard with only shoes and gloves and HE STABS ME IN THE BACK while I fight

[subtle heart]

Maybe if fireball splash affected the caster it wouldn’t be so stupid

[pure trout]

He ends up dying too its so stupid

I played 4 HR Gob Cave Rounds where I killed myself instantly to track the classes that were running around

1st Game: 3 Rogues, 2 Barbarians, 2 Druids / 2nd Game: 1 Rogue, 2 Barbarians, 2 Druids / 3rd Game: 4 Rogues, 1 Druid, 1 Barbarian / 4th Game: 4 BARBS , 1 Druid

This is cancer

[viscid ginkgo]

it does?

[subtle heart]

Seen ppl do that with someone right on their face and take no damage

[fierce edge]

Does anyone know which quests are worth pushing? I finished the treasurer's quest and got the chest. Who else has a good reward?

[vague quest]

Treasurer, Goblin, Tavern Master, Collector

Treasurer's finally reward is a gold coin chest, goblin gets you a bag midway through, tavern master rewards an extra stash tab for one of your characters.
Goblin, tavern master, and collector, also all give cosmetic rewards in their final quests (though they are not yet released).

Huntress quests are also worth completing, but they take a while

[fierce edge]

Well then i guess I am done as far as I am compelled. I got the bag and chest, I don't really need an extra stash

Thank you very very much for the detailed answer

I will keep an eye out for the cosmetic quests on release. (I love my little goblin dance, I think I got it from that quest line)

[pallid hemlock]

the splash range is tragically small. but also somehow too large in the context of this game. its incredible the things that Iron mace is able to accomplish. could have also been desync or something in that instance

[pure trout]

So I just got 1 tapped while having max pdr on fighter

75%

mf is running RECKLESS and Finishing blow with 60% headshot damage bonus with bardiche

Also 56 base dmg bardiche with +5 dmg

that was fun

[pallid hemlock]

just a smidgen of W gameplay from your lord SDF

[pure trout]

funny thing is im pretty sure no class survives that

maybe druid with bear but even then

[subtle heart]

Is he a max pdr or a Barb?

[pure trout]

I had max pdr with 170 health full bis

[fierce edge]

Unfortunately this has always been the case of HR. The TTK is absurd

[pure trout]

wdym hes barb

[fierce edge]

and armor becomes decorative in HR

[viscid ginkgo]

lol when im wiz and hit a point blank fireball i get nuked so idk

[subtle heart]

Nice to see people using fighter to its full potential

[pure trout]

I run disarm pdr fighter

with longsword

not weird ass spear

[broken veldt]

whats best weapon for melee sorc now?

[pure trout]

void

do you best best or affordable

[broken veldt]

uhh

[pure trout]

best best is kumas with zirk

[broken veldt]

not the craft

i just mean weapon type

[pure trout]

?

sword obv

[broken veldt]

just longsword?

[pure trout]

no

falchion + ball is good

longsword is good too

[broken veldt]

ic

[fickle rose]

do the devs vibe code this game or is it just that spaghetti?

[vague quest]

yesnt

[pallid hemlock]

potential for this game took a massive dip post-Nexon

[subtle heart]

Huh?

You mean counterstrike nexon?

[pallid hemlock]

after SDF downloaded it from Nexon hardware, i mean

[stable urchin]

ive never seen a game die this hard, same sweats every season doing the same cheese

classic shit

[thorny bronze]

@glad thunder GET RID OF ICE MAP VIOD PLEASE ITS BAD CANT ENJOY A KIT AFTER I BUILD IT I LAG OFF INTO VOID

goblin merchant doesnt give you anything back after

[subtle heart]

Ooof maybe don’t play ice map

[thorny bronze]

oof maybe sdf needs to fix some bs

[fleet ermine]

guys
why sometimes i can't enter the dungeon?

[thorny bronze]

wyvern farming is horrable

just because of that reason

[vague quest]

wyvern farming is horrible not even because that reason

it has some of the cheapest artifact drops

for being one of the harder bosses

[thorny bronze]

pesty only good drop

true

[vague quest]

can literally get a nip or elven on market for like 20k

[thorny bronze]

dead ass

[vague quest]

wyvern needs to drop viola again

idk why its on warlord

ice boss doesnt drop ice weapon...???

[thorny bronze]

manta ray the best uncontested and its just like wyvern but better artis

[fleet ermine]

guys
why sometimes i can't enter the dungeon?

[thorny bronze]

frrrrrrrrrr

[vague quest]

whats it say

"i cant enter the dungeon" doesnt help at all

[fleet ermine]

it's says the following is banned from entering the dungeon or something

[vapid oyster]

gold

[vague quest]

how about you read what it says

and come back

instead of ignoring the pop up

that tells you exactly what the problem is

[fleet ermine]

i forgot the text

it does not
it mentions gold

[vapid oyster]

you can't take gold into the dungeon

[vague quest]

it literally does

[fleet ermine]

oh thanks budd

what should i do then?

[vapid oyster]

put it in your stash lol

[vague quest]

put it in your stash

[fleet ermine]

thx

[flat nymph]

Lmao.

[subtle heart]

Man how you expect the globin to grab your shit in the void, but they do need to buff the artifact drops on it

How tf dos an easy boss like GK have better drops and there’s no risk of void when getting there

[vague quest]

GK also has the highest arti drop rate btw

[thorny bronze]

void should not be on wyvern. ts is so phony

[vague quest]

(so does wyvern though)

gk and wyvern both have 4.5% drop rates, while the others are like 1.5% or something

[pallid hemlock]

GK is also at the end of a full campaign

[vague quest]

the system makes no sense

[vague quest]

not when you can just insta red

[pallid hemlock]

im just listening to Terry the goat

[subtle heart]

Yeah the devs are so stupid you ik wanna use another word but the damn censorship here doesn’t let u say anything , why can’t they make the ice artifact drop from WY for example.

I wonder if the ppl working at Ironmace (aside from the main manager guys) only come into work like 2 weeks every 3 months.

[vague quest]

2 weeks? i wish bro

they go in like 2 hours at best

then just watch which ever streamer they have a crush on

and then update the game based on what that one specific guy says

[subtle heart]

Skinny Pete said it’s him rn who has a relationship with Paul

[vague quest]

wtf paul is cheating on me

and with mr pete of all people 💔

[subtle heart]

I truly believe they would have buffed Barb not nerf it if he wasn’t talking to them they have an unlive brain

They were talking about reworking Barb to be more headshot damage focused on smt

[vague quest]

nah pete actually knows what hes yapping about

[subtle heart]

I mean iron mace they’re truly so so stupid I still can’t wrap my head around it

[vague quest]

yeah, it took them this long to add gates to portals lmao

and then even then they didnt do it right

they did only blues first

then they did reds, but the time was so short it didnt do anything

[subtle heart]

And rogues could hide inside them

It really is like they only use their brains a for a few days per month at best ( their best is rn now that they’re doing better)

[lusty mesa]

yo is this allowed

[pallid hemlock]

they all have to share the Squirrelbrain of the Druid Fan, they all get a few hours a month

[subtle heart]

Delete this shit before the mods ban you and decide they might as well ban me too

[vague quest]

<@&988703997378584596>

[vague quest]

lets see whos faster

that guy or the wardens actually responding for once

[pallid hemlock]

what are you even asking tho 💀 are you allowed to post your ebay account for people to look through?

[vague quest]

i highly doubt its a "trusted link" so no, its not allowed

yo was that a warden or him

who won the bet that we totally placed

[pallid hemlock]

bro is selling chuck e cheese tokens for $1.61

[vague quest]

lol

[subtle heart]

They might actually bad me if they do “their job” they keep banning them unbanning me for just TRYING to say slurs, like I was just testing out if the censorship worked I wasn’t gonna say it fr

[vague quest]

[sterile ridge]

Lol its not allowed

[subtle heart]

I think the mod was faster lol

[lusty mesa]

yup

[subtle heart]

Guy’s probably spamming every server in existence he can’t care to delete it

He keeps going forward always looking forward to the next server to spam no time to look back

[lusty mesa]

this got me rolling bro lol

[subtle heart]

Alright my being here is getting counterproductive I’m out

[pallid hemlock]

bro is that your account wtf is all that 💀 why are you selling an anime catgirl Belle Delphine mousepad

[vague quest]

aight you owe me 16.8 smackerdoos

[lusty mesa]

yeah lol and them chuck e cheese tokes have been selling to tho

[pallid hemlock]

nah 💀

[subtle heart]

I wish I could sell my gamerboy ball mold

Nobody appreciates my gifts and shit

[whole acorn]

ew

please keep this channel about the game

[wind dew]

[fathom field]

[subtle heart]

The envy that the non crusty sack normies have is insane you clearly don’t do all your hunter’s quests.

[keen mauve]

wtf

[mortal talon]

With out there being a circle in HR the game doesn’t do a real good job at telling you you’re about to die like it used to.

[clear atlas]

what rooms in 3rd layer even have gold chests now?

[stone panther]

the blizard isnt clear enough for you?

well,at least in abyss

[tulip breach]

i got red lines on bottom of screen when i play dark and darker in any other games it doesnt appear anyone had theses problems?

[static kelp]

How many stone doors can be opened with a mystical gem? Ive just got one from the cyclops and used it on the goblins room stone door, the only one ik of. but i got another mystical gem in the same room from a chest

is there more than one stone door?

[tulip breach]

no theres only 1 door

[static kelp]

okay ty!

[prisma star]

Doing fire colo in a team as a wizard gotta be top 10 worst things i could do

holy

[compact hollow]

This game so ass

[gritty sorrel]

Aint nobody forcing you to play

[silent geyser]

Arena might be the single worth thing to happen to this game. Absolutely kills the game every weekend its out

[viscid pumice]

?

its the most fun thing

making the kit, using the kit, ranking up

ur just sad u cant find ppl in dungeons

[brittle barn]

Is that a bad thing to be sad that lobbies are dead..?

[viscid pumice]

its not sad

ppl are just playing a more fun game mode

[sweet crow]

So when are ranked rewards going to be shown (what a joke)

[arctic inlet]

Been getting back into the game, what's considered the "best" class? Is it still druid/warlock?

[woeful bluff]

What gives you dark offering stacks faster? Please and thank you!

[indigo valve]

Ranger or fighter

Solos probably barbarian

[arctic inlet]

I've seen a lot of people say sorc so I figured I'd ask

[broken cove]

Sorc is not the best class, it has only ever been the best class when it first released and Lightning storm tick speed was bugged.

Sorc has a lot in their toolbelt that bad players dont account for so they consider it OP, sorc is strong rn but not broken

[arctic inlet]

So if I wanted to get back into being good and ruining hr lobbies I'd wanna play ranger?

[clear wing]

just revert the game to alpha 5

[broken cove]

ranger is the best potential imo, low risk and 2 headshots drops almost anyone

but depending on skill level prolly fighter

[arctic inlet]

So with that info, sword and shield fighter, longsword fighter, or sum else with weapon mastery fighter?

[vague quest]

solos, play barb

barb is just good in every mode and every party size

[prisma horizon]

hallberd bis solo but they'r all ok

[azure helm]

is there a website with an updated map to tell me where everythings at the ones im looking at are all old

[sturdy surge]

What scales the shield health on arcane shield?

[sonic maple]

Halbis

[silent geyser]

Yes....yes Im sad that I can't find people in the dungeons in the dungeon extraction game....lmfao

Like read what you wrote LMFAO

[severe ridge]

Theres only 1 build for barb now and its bardiche with spin, super cringe and boring warmaul used to be good to kill druids but theres no druid players and with the str nerf and buffs to fighter you dont win vs fighter anymore either. We are left with the most monotone barb has ever been. Stack headshot dmg and use bardiche. Make cool new abilities and perks for barb but nerf them into the ground untill nobody uses them. Then nerf achilles and reckless and savage roar builds untill theres only 1 build left to play and have success with. Please change some stuff!!!

[severe ridge]

Sorc beyond broken rn, needs a nerf on everything cooldowns, dmg, stoneskin to much resistances. and barely any downtime while having a oneshot combo you cant be serious right?

[viscid pumice]

bro

[pine wyvern]

where all da fights at rn

[viscid pumice]

game is wack

they release a good game

mode

ppl play the fun game mode

[silent geyser]

In arena, kills the game every time

[pine wyvern]

fuck bro

[viscid pumice]

arena is closed

[pine wyvern]

im tryna run duos in dungeons but nobody being there is cancerous

[viscid pumice]

u guys need to remember this is kind of a dead game

[silent geyser]

Correct, and everyone is now in bed

[viscid pumice]

we all know each other at this point

[viscid pumice]

i just woke up

thats how earth works

some ppl go to sleep

some wake up

maybe just maybe

the game doesnt have the playerbase

to fill all servers

[silent geyser]

Guess I should have said "largest populous"

[viscid pumice]

arena is retaining its player base

esp at times where wipe is soon

no point in playing in dungeons

so arena is fun

[undone kiln]

pvp?

[viscid pumice]

ya arena pvp

most of us in this disc plays HR anyways

and u need to remember 30-50% prolly plays pve

and some chinese farmers

[undone kiln]

how is arena pvp better

[viscid pumice]

its not better

[silent geyser]

Arena pvp is the worst version of the pvp lmao

[viscid pumice]

its more fun cuz of ranking systen

i reached demigod in first week of the game

HR rank means nothing

warlord however thats a challenge

[silent geyser]

It isn't tho

[viscid pumice]

it isnt?

[silent geyser]

Just build an insane kit and play with a premade

[viscid pumice]

early game

i agree

but high rank

everyone is premade

with op kit as well

[undone kiln]

the whole game takes less than no skill tho

[silent geyser]

Arena is literally just whoever is more jobless wins lmao

[viscid pumice]

and whats HR

[undone kiln]

the same thing with mobs

[viscid pumice]

ya

[silent geyser]

The same with mobs and a slightly higher chance of outplaying with movement

[viscid pumice]

we all learn clearing the mobs first 100 hrs of playing this game

so mobs isnt really

an element

unless u run around dragging everything like an idior

[undone kiln]

outplaying?

just run thru doors

and spam

[viscid pumice]

yup

run away

[silent geyser]

Cap...mobs cost more insane kits then you think lmao

[undone kiln]

thats how it works

[viscid pumice]

i hate HR

door and doorer

[undone kiln]

mobs are easy

[silent geyser]

Break the doors

[undone kiln]

but than you cant do the same

[viscid pumice]

not everyone is playing brain de@d barb

[undone kiln]

the thing is you die so fast

and because of that no one wants to fight like a real person

[viscid pumice]

nice u got 200k kit on

oopsie

[silent geyser]

You dont have to be a barb to break a door

[viscid pumice]

rogue landmine

20k kit

[viscid pumice]

ya lemme hit the door 4 times so i follow the guy running away

[undone kiln]

no matter what

[silent geyser]

Ahhh so you prefer arena because you have gear anxiety or care too much. Makes sense

[undone kiln]

you lose if you play a semi fair class or build

[viscid pumice]

im the least gear fear fker u will see

[undone kiln]

u make that seem like a bad thing

[viscid pumice]

3 artifact cleric

fk it

just pixels in the game

[silent geyser]

It is...you should not care about losing some gear

[undone kiln]

depends

i hear some arena gears are crazy

[viscid pumice]

mine is

[silent geyser]

Ahhh you got landmined damn buy another kit and Q up, gold isn't hard to come by anymore

[viscid pumice]

had a lot of fun making it

143 HP 46 % pdr 30 phys power rogue

[undone kiln]

thats kinda sad tho

[silent geyser]

It is, but you dont lose arena gear

[viscid pumice]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

55% phys power with perks

[undone kiln]

like i said

i feel like going anything melee gets outshined by other things

[viscid pumice]

i hear y

[quick fern]

the best thing to do in the dungeon is nothing til the timer is over half done

[viscid pumice]

fk rangers and spell casters

[undone kiln]

yep

[viscid pumice]

karma hear will call u out cuz of this

waawaawaa

[silent geyser]

True

[undone kiln]

i go figher and i only use my bow

[viscid pumice]

i hear u man

[undone kiln]

no point in trying to melee because they can somehow do more damage than you

[quick fern]

who wants to play a 15 min game where the best strat is to do nothing for 10 mins

[viscid pumice]

geniunly crazy btw

[quick fern]

arena is the game now

[viscid pumice]

^^^^^

[undone kiln]

i think the devs are trying to kill the game

[silent geyser]

Thats tough because if you aren't terrible then you end up with 15min arena Queues lmaooo

[viscid pumice]

what server u playing on

[quick fern]

nah i get 2 min games at 3k

[silent geyser]

East

[quick fern]

bros playing saopaulo

[undone kiln]

and going anything but the meta make you die so fast

[viscid pumice]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

vincent gets 2-3 min que timers

and what u r on

[silent geyser]

Breh Id actually never get a game

[viscid pumice]

whats ur rating

[silent geyser]

3k

[viscid pumice]

btw what do yall think the average rating is for ppl

[viscid pumice]

3k.... why complain about arena if u play arena

[silent geyser]

Probably like 1800 for an average

[silent geyser]

Because its still ass....I have to play it if I want to play the game lmao

[viscid pumice]

what class do u play on

im learning rogue this season it was hella funny how bad i was in arena

still kinda am but got waayy better hahah

[silent geyser]

Depends on what the boys want. Bard/Wiz/Ranger/Barb

Ranger this season because longbow goes BRRRRRRT

[subtle heart]

How did u expect to duo with a randoms the game mode is dead if you don’t have a partner

[pine wyvern]

u stupid i have a duo we js not finding anybody 3 empty games ij a row

[viscid pumice]

just go to boss arenas

areas

[pine wyvern]

nahhhhhhh

[viscid pumice]

tf u mean nahhh

XDD

[undone kiln]

how would i make a good figher kit

[pine wyvern]

im not new we literally double bossed all 3 games🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[viscid pumice]

u hunting for timmies?

[subtle heart]

Damn that’s worse than I thought.

[viscid pumice]

arena

?

[undone kiln]

no

hr

arenas down

[viscid pumice]

ah i usually cook up stingray fighter kits

what do u like

halbred or longsword

or dual wield

[undone kiln]

i dual

[viscid pumice]

ah im not ur guy then

[undone kiln]

tho its kinda ass

[viscid pumice]

im a longsword halbred guy

[undone kiln]

whats stingray figher kits

[viscid pumice]

barbuda, dark plated, vig pants STR boots and gloves

good pdr mr phys power

[undone kiln]

barbuda?

[viscid pumice]

ya barbuda gives u MR

[undone kiln]

is it a weapon?

[viscid pumice]

ah fk i forgot how spell it

ah the helm

that gives u MR

looks like a T

on ur face

[undone kiln]

barbuta?

[viscid pumice]

barbute

ye

[undone kiln]

t shaped?

yea

[viscid pumice]

i kill it in

2:30

with my kit

[undone kiln]

2:30?

[viscid pumice]

2 min 30 sec

[undone kiln]

whats that

[viscid pumice]

how long it takes me ot kill stingray

yes u can kill it faster with bard

but id like to see u take my arti from me

as a full kitted fighter

in water

[undone kiln]

idk how to kill sting ray

[subtle heart]

Warlock joined the chat

[viscid pumice]

ok we run from that

HAHAHAHAHAH

but i got MR

longbow for the win

if i dont hit my shots

i run away

[undone kiln]

that kinda what i do

but with a base recuve bow

c:

[viscid pumice]

in the water

longbow is king

[undone kiln]

can i somehow get a bigger coin purse

thing

is the horsemans axe kinda ok?

or should i just scrape it

scrap

[subtle heart]

Honestly I feel like the stats your gear gives doesn’t matter too much, as long as it’s fighter gear (the best) and not Barb gear (nerfed) you should just find what’s got the best rolls for cheap but in this case you’re using barbuda helm which is objectively worse than hounskull.

[undone kiln]

i was trying to run horseman axe with stiletto dagger

[quick fern]

viking sword is considered better

[undone kiln]

it seems bad\

[quick fern]

and if you wanna use 1 handers and a shield just play fighter

[undone kiln]

k

i play figher

i was trying a slayer build

but plate armor is broken

and not worth not being able to parry or block

[viscid pumice]

ofc i agree with u rolls matter a lot

but STR boots and gloves on legendary

is 10 str total

thats free

[undone kiln]

is hatchet or felling axe any good?

[quick fern]

mace + dagger for armor pen or demons glee + crystal ball for magic dmg

[viscid pumice]

fellix axe is funny to use

but if u miss u r fked

[undone kiln]

i hear the second build is very

yk

[viscid pumice]

welp imma go watch somethin

gl in the dungeons

[undone kiln]

ill try the axe

[quick fern]

maybe run it as a barb with the axe perk

[undone kiln]

ig

[undone kiln]

can brab still use bows?

[quick fern]

no they can throw axes tho

[undone kiln]

oh

thats sad

[quick fern]

the axe perk still makes them stronger i believe

[undone kiln]

strong if you can catch them

and at that point its just out damage right

[undone kiln]

ill try

[quick fern]

the axes slow them so you will catch them and you can chase while throwing them

they also do good damage to most classes

its just annoying carrying an inventory full of them

[undone kiln]

what skills do i run

[undone kiln]

i got out damaged by a zwei

is blood exchange good for axe?

[quick fern]

for hatchet i think the old build was axe special robust berserker and potion chugger/morale boost

[undone kiln]

it seems to swing fast

k

[quick fern]

rage savage roar probably

[undone kiln]

i mean

i killed 3 guysa

a rogue or bard a fighter and a barb that was low

[brittle barn]

Love how theres a guy in norms called "TeammateStabber" who just TKs at the beginning of the game and if you fight back you get a fkin penalty

holy cooked game

[quick fern]

whatever works for you brother

[undone kiln]

dont q with randoms?

[brittle barn]

Yeah surely thats the problem

[undone kiln]

it is

[brittle barn]

"she shouldnt have worn a skirt"

[undone kiln]

yea

but u can prevent it

[brittle barn]

By not playing the game

[undone kiln]

by not qing with randoms

[undone kiln]

did u find them on the discordd?

or was it a random q

[brittle barn]

random q im just trying to run some quick games

Maybe the guy with the name "teammatestabber should be banned"

[undone kiln]

free game brother

[undone kiln]

u see how they got ways to make this not happen?

u cant be mad about it

[brittle barn]

A good way to be ban them idk crazy idea

[hardy stump]

they'll be right back at it on next free account

[undone kiln]

right

lool

[brittle barn]

yeah and lose all their account progress, have to make a new steam account, and if it was a hardware ban, have to spoof

[undone kiln]

and?

[brittle barn]

And that makes it a pain for them & slows it down

[undone kiln]

not going to be a hardware ban

progress?

what progress

new account

5 min

your fault

ngl

[brittle barn]

guy had full perks, so lvling is progress

[undone kiln]

go into any game you will find trolls

[hardy stump]

not even - it'll happen as long as there is demo client option

[brittle barn]

100% hardware banning some1 makes it a pain that the avg person isnt gonna waste time circumventing

[undone kiln]

you think he full levels before he kills team>

no

[brittle barn]

i know he does cause i can see his perks, cant you read?

[hardy stump]

I don't think you realize how incredibly rare MAC bans are, and they are pretty much exclusively for most excessive hackers

[undone kiln]

and?

[brittle barn]

and that contradicts your last statement knobhead

[undone kiln]

why would he level up to kill his team

[undone kiln]

no?

are u dumb?

[brittle barn]

He fking is dude he was on my team I can see his perks are you dumb?

[undone kiln]

and?

[brittle barn]

holy troll

[undone kiln]

u are dumb

and dont get what im trying to say

[brittle barn]

Griefers is an acceptable use. No 1 wants people making the game worse

[undone kiln]

its not

they got a whole discord for u 2 use

[brittle barn]

You dont think hardware banning griefers is an acceptable use of hardware bans?

You're the problem

[undone kiln]

bro

cry

all you want

[brittle barn]

bro is defending bad systems and worse behavior

[undone kiln]

wahhh

[undone kiln]

behavior?

of 1 person?

you do know that all games have trolls right?

[brittle barn]

Okay and?

Doesnt excuse it

[undone kiln]

ok and>?

do you think other games care?

[brittle barn]

only 1s worth playing

[undone kiln]

no

lol

non of them

[undone kiln]

name one

come on

u cant

lool

[brittle barn]

im mid game kiddie ill get to u in a bi

[undone kiln]

yea

but u can type that out

trying to find a game

[wild matrix]

Can someone dm me a map on where all the wardweed is in goblin caves?

Or is there a way I can find it?

[hardy stump]

run herbal sense druid

[tired atlas]

Yooo. I haven't touched this game since like Druid was released (2 years ago???). Has it changed at all? How's the playerbase? 🤔

[undone kiln]

bad

[hardy stump]

play and see, devs said retention for this season was the best it has ever was since season 1

[undone kiln]

whats retention ?

[tired atlas]

Players logging in every day

[lean crown]

how often a player comes back

[undone kiln]

oh

[tired atlas]

I was turned off by the move away from the slow/grounded gameplay of early EA. Has that been touched, or are Mages still casting 5 spells/second? :V

[wild matrix]

Is there like a map showing all of it already

[brittle barn]

Okay got out of raid. Here's a quick google result:
Valorant / Riot Games: Known for strict HWID bans that target both cheating and severe griefing/toxicity.
Fortnite (Epic Games): Uses Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) to blacklist PC components, preventing banned users from playing even on new accounts.
Rust: Issues hardware bans for cheating, severe toxicity, and intense in-game griefing.
Apex Legends: Employs permanent hardware bans to deal with chronic offenders and cheaters.
GTA Online: Prohibits griefing, including player harassment and identity-based hate, which can lead to severe account and hardware-level restrictions.
Deadlock: Valve is issuing hardware ID bans for abusing game mechanics, such as the pause function.
ARC Raiders (Embark ID): Implements final, non-appealable hardware bans for violations.
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Reddit
+8

[undone kiln]

yea

[undone kiln]

lol

[brittle barn]

Valorant, Fortnite, Rust, Apex Legends, GTA Onlines, Deadlock, ARC Raiders

Bunch of tiny games

[undone kiln]

multi million dollar companies btw

[brittle barn]

Yeah successful games

[undone kiln]

billion

[brittle barn]

Also this game has made millions lol

Maybe the successful games are onto something

[undone kiln]

Fortnite (Epic Games): Uses Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) to blacklist PC components, preventing banned users from playing even on new accounts.

thats cheating

Rust: Issues hardware bans for cheating, severe toxicity, and intense in-game griefing

lies

Deadlock: Valve is issuing hardware ID bans for abusing game mechanics, such as the pause function.

game mechanics

half of them are bs

[brittle barn]

Right but they ban for griefing too

[undone kiln]

all the time?

nah

dont think so

[brittle barn]

Severe toxicity and in game griefing, you said so yourself

[brittle barn]

Are you asking if all bans are griefing bans?

Do i need to explain subsets to you?

[undone kiln]

rust dont ban anyone

[brittle barn]

Yes they do tf

[undone kiln]

and player bans dont count

like adding garrys mod into that list

[brittle barn]

Why would they not count?

Assuming you mean player bans as in games that allow private banning

[undone kiln]

i mean it as community servers

[brittle barn]

Okay why would those not count?

And Rust does community and game banning, not just community

[undone kiln]

nope

[brittle barn]

community is just usually the first step

[undone kiln]

who is not toxic in rust

tbh

i dont care anymore

its your fault

use lfg and u would have been fine

[brittle barn]

L take, wrong x10, go support griefers more

white knighting for griefers is crazy

[narrow carbon]

how come dark reflection is affected by debuff and cooldown?

[quick fern]

someone griefs every single league game ive ever played

[hollow sun]

does spectral fabric only drop in hr

[lean crown]

all modes, % chance based on mode

think its like 10% in norms? idk

[stark radish]

Gta prohibiting griefing is also not 100% true. Tho no griefing is in the rules lets behonest its prob the most griefed game, and identity based hate resulting in bans is a joke, in all my time i have seen more slurs thrown in gta then any other game

[brittle barn]

Do they have a ban noti system? How do you know those people didnt get banned eventually?

[stark radish]

They do have 1, only bans ive seen was from modders/scripters, never from slurs or griefing

Maybe in early gta online days but i didnt play back then

[tardy willow]

wheres is the pile slightly north east of the center of water map, i can never find it just the pirahanas

[crystal needle]

Dead chatttttt

[random temple]

GAME BAD

[smoky fable]

when does arena reopen?

nvm

[zealous wing]

The dark reflect is a “shield” that gets used up when struck, then it becomes a debuff for its “cooldown” therefore debuff reduc, reduces the amount of time it takes the shield to come back up ( I don’t think cooldown reduc affect it )

[simple python]

are dwarves actually shorter than other races?

[tribal zodiac]

Yes

[neat egret]

It will have any new updat before arena tournament？

Any nerfs or buffs on each class

[elder orchid]

Supposed to be ranger and rogue class updates similar to fighter and barb before the new season starts from what they said in the qna

[young vessel]

the build guides I've seen do say cdr affects it

[night geyser]

does anyone know what day wipe is again?

[vagrant fulcrum]

End of season planned for end of April, wipe could be early May.

[sullen anchor]

same property as zirkzis, the cooldown is in the form of a debuff, thus when you build debuff duration it reduces it drastically

and dreamwalk too

or immortal lament

[wise turret]

so many speed hackers in this game its an actual joke. waste of time to even play coe server

oce

ironmace need to grow some balls and stop giving them only temp bans

[fervent anvil]

i have yet to see one speed hacker this wipe lol

[fleet surge]

Are they super fast or? I dont think I've ever seen one before lol

But i also dont play dead servers so

[fervent anvil]

i think its just that they run at max ms with weapon out?

[fleet surge]

Ahhhh makes sense okay I was thinking like super speed hahahaa

Still insane but yeah

[slender willow]

Does anyone know what the boss in the forgotten ruins is called that looks like a kneeling lady in the middle of a big room

[granite bluff]

Banshee

[slender willow]

Is she hard?

[fervent anvil]

stupidly easy

[slender willow]

Thank you

[grizzled citrus]

just did it for the first time since they nerfed it and its insanely easy now.

even if you do get hit, it doesnt hurt anymore even in plate lol

[fervent anvil]

yeah i learnt it before they nerfed it. it was still easy before. all you had to do was either be a warlock. or pay attention

[grizzled citrus]

used to take plate pants off for a lil ms but dont need to anymore

[echo nimbus]

Does action speed help with looting treasure piles, or is that just reg interaction speed?

[fervent anvil]

interaction speed

[echo nimbus]

👍

[crisp lava]

Any changes made to the game?

[noble verge]

Nope, famously unchanged since forever.

[deep spindle]

make doors take longer to close. this should never have been changed in early playtests it was fine i have no idea who wants This

door and doorer 😴

[mystic sky]

How about we remove 2 handers on warlock?

[crisp lava]

Damn. No updates/changes since Jan?

[mystic sky]

Or nerf BoC

Warlocks are out there farming artifacts in squire gear with no jewelry

[granite bluff]

They added some stuff…. New fighter and Barb skills… they added workshops too… also Firedeep 2nd level in Gobbo caves… nothing too too crazy tho

[bitter thunder]

ITS ABT TIME @glad thunder @little summit PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD buff the hand cannon. Its firerate is slow but it makes sense. You can do one of 2 things. One is give it a small 10-30% armour pen bonus as it literally says in the description strong enough to penetrate even the toughest armour or something like that and it makes sense. High risk high reward. Or you could buff the reload speed and maybe increase bullet travel speed. I feel at least one of these is needed as I love the hand cannon. And I feel it needs this little boost to make it a actually viable weapon.

[granite bluff]

Doesnt hand cannon already have a bunch of true physical dmg on it? Or did that get changed?

[bitter thunder]

In arena with full gear buffing it as much as possible its only 50 dmg body shots

[granite bluff]

Armor pen and true physical dmg might be a bit much

[crisp lava]

hmmm I am thinking of going back to Fighter or become Cleric.

[granite bluff]

You can just build armor pen into your gear

[bitter thunder]

Even with that only 50-60 dmg body shot it would need alot more to be fully viable

It takes 6 secs to reload with like 20 action speed and only for 50 dmg? That's not worth it

While a bow or a crossbow can do much more damage in that time

[granite bluff]

Idk we had the OP windlass xbow days way back when, not sure we need to recreate that haa

[bitter thunder]

Not recreate it lol but handcannon is pretty much a meme weapon rn. Like you wouldn't legitimately consider it in high roller running gear.

It should get a buff to something at least to make it viable

And its easy to counter to simply by just dodging

Maybe they should give it a slow effect on hit or maybe a bleed or something

[crisp lava]

dualwield handcannons

[neat urchin]

new dwarf racial

[trail quarry]

What does this even mean?

[noble verge]

I agree this game is literally unplayable until it has AWP.

And AA12

[meager gale]

whats the deal with all these chinese named teamers in US east and west

[livid onyx]

I think it's funny Ken caught a ban for teaming when the chips were down, you basically just have to accept you lose if you're in a 1v1 where boths teams lost a player and getting third partied by a 2 player team. Just die.

[granite bluff]

Yeah it sucks… all because solo queue has issues with teaming that IM can’t remedy correctly so trios/duos has to suffering not allowing organic teaming

[slender willow]

Do the maps change to have locations in different spots?

[granite bluff]

Water map and Ruins 7x7 map have same layout everytime, everything else (including 5x5 Ruins for s2r game mode) is randomized

[slender willow]

Same rooms different layout or completely random?

[granite bluff]

The layout within the specific module never really changes, just the placement of module on map is randomized order

[slender willow]

Okay that makes sense I must have gotten lucky to have a room in the same spot twice

[granite bluff]

With the exception of the occasional level or switch being in diff location within module

[noble verge]

Yeah that’s a bad ban.

Totally different than joining a lobby with intent to team

Although I could see how it can be abused

[livid onyx]

True, which I understand the reasoning behind the overall ban of teaming, but these types of interactions where you know teaming is your only option to not flat out lose are so unique and interesting.
I had something similar back in the early days with lobster players.
I remember teaming up randomly with like 4 players and taking down a rubysilver fighter, we picked him clean like hyenas.

[rugged totem]

Are there any dummies I can hit on the goblin map? Pls @ me!

[livid onyx]

Yes

[mild crag]

Lmao crouching and looking down as a dwarf makes you immune to yetis attacks

[fervent anvil]

yup. i think its in "cave hideout A"

[charred veldt]

When next patch

[subtle heart]

Is Barb incapable of doing a parry or do I just need to add more dex?

[pure trout]

So either there is warlocks that cheat or the game is desynced as fuck

like theres no way some of these curses hit me while im not even in sight of range

[pure trout]

just stack strength and go for bardiche parry easy 1 tap

[grand beacon]

dont believe dex gets your guard up faster. it does reduce swing recovery time tho so if you just swung on someone, it will make it quicker to get to the start of the block animation

[fervent anvil]

you gotta make sure you press the block button again after you parry a weapon.

[subtle heart]

Thanks king btw I can do it but it’s just hard bc I’m savage and have high impact power

[mystic sky]

Agreed. Teaming should be allowed imo

Especially in that situation

Same as if someone has a bissed up trident kit, you just have to accept being crapped on or you team with others. No shame in that

Teaming outside of the game would be obvious because people won't be using voip

Teaming inside the game should be allowed with voip

[narrow spindle]

gotta love how the druid changes buffed bear speed to be faster that someone at 100% ms

[narrow spindle]

base kit btw

[mystic sky]

Bear still kinda sucks lol

Any long range or 2hander weapon beats it

To be fair bear beats you if you're slow move speed without extremely high PDR

[narrow spindle]

are we playing the same game??? u cant even parry the normal bear swings. they just go through

[narrow spindle]

102ms running and the bear just constantly swings and reaches me

[mystic sky]

I haven't had that issue. You're running a 2handed?

[narrow spindle]

i had nothing in my hands

[mystic sky]

Oh GG. I hate how warlocks have so much base agility for a class that gets plate armor

Similar issue I guess

[narrow spindle]

dark reflect gotta go

[mystic sky]

How about blow of corruption doesn't deal 2/3 of your hp with one blow? Or how about they don't get to use the highest damage weapons in the game as the caster class with the highest base agility?

You literally see them running piss gear in HR hunting artifacts because warlocks are super cheap to run

Although idk about bears moving at mach 3

Must be terrifying. I should try and see how to build that

[marble river]

Hey guys. Im having an issue with my spell indicator ( white spell indactor when casting on ground) being extremely hard to see/ dark. I have my brightness all the way up and there are no other visual issues in the game. anyone know the fix?

[proud marsh]

what is the current game state ?

[lyric flower]

Does anyone know how to setup the Cloudflare?

[grizzled citrus]

no lol absolutely not. I quit 3 wipes ago because of teaming. Its not alot of fun when someone sees you running an artifact and they just run away voiping to the entire lobby that you have bis. next thing you know you have 5 people all running you down. you kill 4 and the 5th or 6th gets your kit

teaming used to be the main reason i would lose kits. wipe a few lobbies and now everyone you killed is looking for you together. voiping and flapping their lips together.

[mystic sky]

Well most people run artifacts because they want more pvp either way, so you get more pvp

People should just learn to negotiate, like "bro team up with ME and I'll give you half the loot"

But if all people know is to be toxic and do random babbling noises on their mic then I mean... Let the people who can talk like real people one up them

I also wouldn't want a fighter telling me he'll tickle my feet chasing me the whole lobby with mega BiS, and yet I see that like every 3 games

Like the hehe boy meme

I def think if we prohibit teaming we lose an essential part of the game in interacting with others

[livid onyx]

Unrestricted normals teaming was a necessity, high roller I think organic teaming in the heat of the moment similar to Ken's situation is fine, not forming a posse and running people down together.

[mystic sky]

I agree. The real issue has always been people teaming up before they're in-game, with farmers having their own Discord servers and stuff

Like 20 people queueing at once and meeting up while voice chatting outside of the game

Then you end up in a server full of farmers where they all team against you

In norms Ive had games where my team spots 2 other teams working together and one time we looked for a 4th team to team against the teamers. I think that kinda thing is fair and adds more life to the game

[grizzled citrus]

you are such a coward.

[mystic sky]

I've also seen Timmies banding up together

[mystic sky]

That's subjective. I would agree with you, but it's not really important for this context

[livid onyx]

And of course people can have issue with teaming in general, but also consider that there are things that you'll deal with outside of teaming that are also unfair. I could run perma invis rogue and just stalk people and "respect" the 1v1 but the moment you finish your fight. I'm on you and you're dead. Is that teaming or just taking advantage of 3rd party scenarios.

I don't play that way because it's more lucrative to just farm bosses, but if I wanted to there's no rule about landmining people at red stairs or ruins someone's chances of winning a fight by choosing to attack one person and not the other until the main target dies.

Plenty of scenarios that aren't considered teaming but are still easily abused

[livid onyx]

No honor among thieves

[grizzled citrus]

that cannot be compaired to 5-6 people all chasing you down yelling your name saying "we know its you" I have dealth with alot of crap in this game and blatant teaming is the only one that is unbearable.

what ken did i dont care about

the problem is the grey area

[carmine robin]

Is arena SF again?

[zinc hollow]

So anyone think Druid will be saved next wipe

[livid onyx]

Except thats the exact thing we were discussing, we don't think forming a group to hunt down a player should be allowed, we're fine with organic teaming and temporary neutrality .

[mystic sky]

The way I see it, a lot of people who go in with artifacts just want to bully others in pvp, I think it's fair. Now they can just play PvE if they didn't want that

[livid onyx]

But I do think that problem of 5-6 people teaming on a single person in HR comes with the issue that it's probably more lucrative to not try to split one persons gear among 5-6 random people lmao, I'd rather cut trees for gold than tru and negotiate picking parts of a BIS player with strangers.

[livid onyx]

I also think that if people want to risk kits that are 200k+ gold, they should be aware of the risks of greedy dungeon rats utilizing any and all tactics to take that gear.

[mystic sky]

True. It sucks that there are still esp'ers tho

People who will know your gear costs 200k from halfway across the dungeon

[livid onyx]

They can keep trying to remove ratting or "crow" play style but the fact remains, low risk, high reward is always going to look desirable.

[livid onyx]

Right, and we know for a fact they coordinate "3rd party" fights all the time

If one scout dies, the true geared chaser is not far behind to finish the target off.

[mystic sky]

Yeah. They're the real problem, but IM only addresses surface level issues by prohibiting teaming in general

[livid onyx]

I've been at the receiving end of that before

Banning teaming only makes them change their tactics up and be more secretive

I think before you could delve deeper, super geared players were stuck in the same box they were tormenting timmies in when on the receiving end of teaming

How red stairs offer a safe haven to all players wanting to avoid fights

I don't have to find an untouched rope to escape with my troll pelts, I can just take a red

[mystic sky]

Indeed. If it was allowed at least some of the things would become more obvious, like people teaming without voip vs people teaming with it

[livid onyx]

When enough players start ratting one of the two red stairs that require 5 seconds of time to open, people will complain about that again

What's good for the geese

[sonic maple]

yup

[mortal talon]

Two weeks later still no coffee or emote from Madrinas

At this point I just want the gd emote code

[mystic sky]

The irony is that if artifact players were able to team they'd have the perfect tool to fight other teamers

I imagine plenty of people may decide to help for the chance to backstab you if they don't get gear from other players by the end

Or just because they're decent

[zinc hollow]

Bring back gs lobbies in hr. I would be shocked if the highest hr population wasn’t when people could fight with purple gear max kits in hr and not get gear diffed by turbo lego and artifacts

[mystic sky]

But then you can't have squire kit warlocks land mining people with artifacts with BoC

You need to make sure warlock stays broken

[livid onyx]

I'd be down with a purple capped HR lobby, but make it looted/minted gear only.

[exotic falcon]

how do ppl farm ap in water map, just doing nothing but hunting lions/golden chests?

[livid onyx]

My buddy killed a DB rogue this way xD

Warlocks trying to say their class isn't broken any%

[mystic sky]

I'm just tired af of warlocks. They're everywhere and they're always whining or being toxic on voip

I straight up avoid them now when I play solos

[zinc hollow]

I don’t think warlock is broken it just has more play styles than any class

[livid onyx]

Warlocks having the best sustain by far " oh but we have to stand still for 7 seconds"

[mystic sky]

Cleric is the only class who's supposed to beat them but warlocks in armor are faster than most clerics in light gear

[livid onyx]

Warlock has more viable playstyles because it's broken

[mystic sky]

In a game as badly balanced as this that just means everything is broken enough to work in the class

[zinc hollow]

Are we talking solos?

[tribal zodiac]

Tbh Boc Halberd squire lock is peak.

[mystic sky]

A couple seasons ago the only play style that worked was torture mastery chicken where you cursed people and ran away, and everyone hated it. Now everything's broken including that

[livid onyx]

We certainly aren't talking about Arena

[zinc hollow]

Solos I think ale bard legit broken it’s just hard to play so no one does

[mystic sky]

Not more broken than warlock in squire

[livid onyx]

Bard is also broken, it just doesn't have a lot of playstyles xD

[zinc hollow]

You want ms sustain ranged melee and utility

Warlock bard and weapon mastery fighter imo the best solos

[livid onyx]

Bard and warlock are my mains out of necessity of being to the easiest to PvE and PvP with low gear

I don't use ale bard because that shit needs a cool down or to not heal while an ale is already active