game-discussion

[waxen karma]

like wtf

should be link click join only postings ngl

[cerulean mason]

how much affinity do i need for spectral coinbag

[violet ivy]

Where do cuttlefish spawn pls

[vague quest]

@ed you in fighter chat with screenshot

[tired ermine]

when is next wipe?

[toxic mantle]

after my next coffee

[vague quest]

end of april

[waxen karma]

https://tenor.com/view/its-gonna-be-may-justin-timberlake-n-sync-boy-band-me-gif-21216859

ramen

[flint radish]

question: In Arena do you lose your gear if it was purchased from marketplace?

[long coral]

no

[flint radish]

oh cool so there is no conditions that allow that to happen its just bring whatever you want and its safe right?

[vague quest]

epic quality max though, but yes

[flint radish]

sick thanks!

[south copper]

you have to keep an empty spell slot, then you can select the empty slot and use block again. that is the only way for now

[karmic plinth]

wait thats such a good idea

[brave mango]

Still waiting to know what seasonal rewards are ✌️

[sinful gull]

Is eu dead? At this point the game just looks so different when watching na streamers..The only way to compare the 2(i could think of), was seeing total messages in the lfg-na/lfg-eu which is ~60k/ ~10k.. that 6 to 1 ration does actually make some sense to me, considering language barrier in eu and na probably being more sociable in general. In my mind this means na has 3-4 times as many players as eu, but spread over 2 servers making those servers twice as populated on average. Ofc there isnt a proper way to compare it, but this is how it felt to me anyway.

[topaz lintel]

just look at steam charts between now and last year the avg players are pretty much the same.

[fiery sigil]

hi guys i have a question why does evry time i have a shard on warlock and i hit an npc the shard just disappears and i can never get to 3?

[golden swan]

that's because u have Dark reflection perk. Check it.

Anyone knows if Im making crystal sword set with warlock boc, its useless the strength and phys power? im not sure.

[echo jasper]

How do you get the thorn shield?

[mighty tulip]

its the 2 true dmg on melee attack perk, dark reflection just makes it disappear if you get hit

[fiery sigil]

Oh ok thank you so much guys im new and i couldnt figure it out

[echo jasper]

THANK YOU

I appreciate it lowkey

I main bard so its pretty nice to have for arena

[undone kiln]

can i somehow fight a boss without going to it
like a practice mode

[vagrant fulcrum]

Not at the moment, no. You have to reach the boss room. PvE is suggested to have better odds of getting there to focus on the boss. Keep in mind that some players will farm bosses in PvE as well, which will result in the boss dying much faster, sometimes before you can reach the room yourself.

[undone kiln]

k

shame

[rigid depot]

hey guys, i wana start learning healer druid and was wondering on what stats do you guys focus on?
Is buff or debuff duration important on that build or should i focus on raw stats like knowledge etc?

[maiden prism]

What does the Cockatrice do on Loved?

[agile zinc]

is there gonna be optimization updates

[quick fern]

everyone plays on us east even eu players

[tawny fulcrum]

Bring back the start in the Castle, I want my cozy dark castle back.

[barren tinsel]

pick your channels and roles. theres a druid channel with a ton of info

[maiden prism]

What does the handcannon damage skills with?

[plush forge]

why as solo player i am put against 3 premade in arena

[normal forge]

what a stupid question

[young sun]

I imagine it's because solo queue is just a box you tick in the lobby and not a dedicated gamemode for arena.

[plush forge]

yeah there like 20 players online on EU so its natural i guess

[mild rapids]

what is the difference between add phisical damage and true phys??

[meager hearth]

When is wipe

[meager hearth]

add physical is like an additional weapon damage, armor rating can lower your damage true damage it ignores your armor

[flat nymph]

End of april

[dense grove]

there is no special half named for arming sword right

[paper vault]

Are quest progress and merchant affinity shared among all my characters?

[flat nymph]

Yes

[jovial perch]

yo they touched something in the wizard? in square u dont do nothing of damage to a warlock squire too

[vapid oyster]

who's touching things inside wizards?

[flat nymph]

Some wiz spells got nerfed, as well as some perks.

[jovial perch]

so the only way to play wizard is in bonk or what?

[paper vault]

thanks

[vapid oyster]

wizard is fine, s2r might be rough

[jovial perch]

idk because all the warlocks resist a lor of magic damage

[obtuse acorn]

ici

[jovial perch]

I was in 20% of magic power and do nothing

[wicked spear]

When is wipe?

[compact urchin]

in a month

[flat nymph]

Yup!

[torpid wigeon]

GAME SUCKS. FIX PARRY ....HOLY NEGATIVE AURA....NO SKILL ANYMORE BRO. NONE.

[sturdy coral]

aim

[tardy horizon]

US west arena is terrible

I wait 5 mins in a que, to play against people 1000 elo lower then me

[tardy horizon]

This games melee takes more skill now then it did before

By leaps and bounds

[valid shoal]

anyone know what they doing for next season ?

[tardy horizon]

Hopefully monk and new ranger/rogue skills/perks

[valid shoal]

last update we got a new map right ? So more blocks & skills, then new map, now new class ?

[tardy horizon]

Supposed to get new skills/perks and new class

[valid shoal]

bet. when did they add spiky gauntlets, spectral cloak and blade & all that ?

[sturdy coral]

last wipe pretty sure, same time they added tidestone gear

[restive lichen]

Remove invis ability from rogue and potion hiding perk

[tardy horizon]

Mmm, no

Adapt

Imagine crying about pickpocket and hide in the same sentence. Just say remove rogue like the other monglets

You want to talk about a problem, longbow in arena

As well as the fact that there is no reset of your mmr gain curve each week in arena

Once you start getting 10 elo per match thats permanent.

Makes climbing a miserable experience even with a high win rate

[restive lichen]

Remove invis ability from rogue and potion hiding perk

[restive lichen]

Remove him

Barbarians should never be able to 2 hit any character, its fucking insane.

[finite yoke]

Mmm, no
Adapt
Imagine crying about pickpocket and hide in the same sentence. Just say remove rogue like the other monglets
You want to talk about a problem, longbow in arena
As well as the fact that there is no reset of your mmr gain curve each week in arena
Once you start getting 10 elo per match thats permanent.
Makes climbing a miserable experience even with a high win rate

[tardy horizon]

Mmm, no
Adapt
Imagine crying about pickpocket and hide in the same sentence. Just say remove rogue like the other monglets
You want to talk about a problem, longbow in arena
As well as the fact that there is no reset of your mmr gain curve each week in arena
Once you start getting 10 elo per match thats permanent.
Makes climbing a miserable experience even with a high win rate
Mmm, no
Adapt
Imagine crying about pickpocket and hide in the same sentence. Just say remove rogue like the other monglets
You want to talk about a problem, longbow in arena
As well as the fact that there is no reset of your mmr gain curve each week in arena
Once you start getting 10 elo per match thats permanent.
Makes climbing a miserable experience even with a high win rate
Mmm, no
Adapt
Imagine crying about pickpocket and hide in the same sentence. Just say remove rogue like the other monglets
You want to talk about a problem, longbow in arena
As well as the fact that there is no reset of your mmr gain curve each week in arena
Once you start getting 10 elo per match thats permanent.
Makes climbing a miserable experience even with a high win rate

[finite yoke]

Mmm, no
Adapt
Imagine crying about pickpocket and hide in the same sentence. Just say remove rogue like the other monglets
You want to talk about a problem, longbow in arena
As well as the fact that there is no reset of your mmr gain curve each week in arena
Once you start getting 10 elo per match thats permanent.
Makes climbing a miserable experience even with a high win rate
Mmm, no
Adapt
Imagine crying about pickpocket and hide in the same sentence. Just say remove rogue like the other monglets
You want to talk about a problem, longbow in arena
As well as the fact that there is no reset of your mmr gain curve each week in arena
Once you start getting 10 elo per match thats permanent.
Makes climbing a miserable experience even with a high win rate
Mmm, no
Adapt
Imagine crying about pickpocket and hide in the same sentence. Just say remove rogue like the other monglets
You want to talk about a problem, longbow in arena
As well as the fact that there is no reset of your mmr gain curve each week in arena
Once you start getting 10 elo per match thats permanent.
Makes climbing a miserable experience even with a high win rate

[random coral]

hey, why do ppl keep adding action speed on spellbooks ?

[reef onyx]

It affects how fast the spell moves

[random coral]

oh, as knowledge, got it ty

[reef onyx]

No knowledge is how long it takes to cast

[random coral]

It also changes how fast spell moves, i experienced it with magic missiles

The most knowledge i had the faster they were going

nvm, it's how fast they were going out of my hand*

[restive lichen]

A barbarian in BIS gear 2-hitted me while I was wearing the heaviest armor in squire quality and he only had a single perk and not a single skill for increasing his dmg.
This is fucking hilarious.
A shame for every developer that has worked on this game.
This is the most braindead class ever and it can 2-hit anyone.

[reef onyx]

You right, but action speeds purely affects how fast it moves , nothing else if I'm correct

[random coral]

🔥

[granite bluff]

Remove potion hiding perk is wild… have to use whole perk slot for something not that useful, you can just take potions off your belt and use a better rogue perk

[restive lichen]

42% dmg reduction and a barb can 2-hit me!!?!??! HAHHAHAHAHAHA

[plain fox]

Will there ever be title displays or anything for the achievements we earn? For now there isn't really a reason to get the achievements

[sonic maple]

Man's never heard of reckles

[timber brook]

wtf do you do against buffball in arena while you random queue. Like. Genuienly.

[kind dome]

why SDF add parry in game if in 50 percent times if it doent work and u cant parry because bug(where you cant parry) which exist like 2 years?

[restive lichen]

42% dmg reduction and a barb can 2-hit me!!?!??! HAHHAHAHAHAHA
@Graysun @sdf good job!
@Graysun @sdf good job!

Totally fair, I just need to hit him with his 160HP like 4 times and he needs to hit me 2 times

[flat nymph]

Dude stop whining like a baby and get over it. Jesus.

[restive lichen]

WUAAH WuAAAH

Maybe the fucking skillfull classes should be the strongest???

This guy would fucking onehit a sorcerer or druid

The devs of this game failed.

I am using a fucking perk to even wear this heavy armor as warlock and I still get 2hitted, its just LAUGHABLE

[flat nymph]

It seems like you're the common issue, not the barb itself. Maybe go practice and get better instead of crying.

[restive lichen]

Sure buddy

Should have just done more dmg per sec than him right

Let me just change the code of the game

[flat nymph]

The fact that's your response shows how little skill and knowledge you have lol. Keep blubbering, that will change things.

[restive lichen]

Oh and the barb has iron will too, so my mains, sorcerer and warlock cant even kill him if he kept his distance for 10s too HAHA

[restive lichen]

Clown

[flat nymph]

That would be you, ironic you're calling me that when you're the one complaining because you can't W a barb lmao

[restive lichen]

Barb should be bottom of the barrel for how much skill he needs

Doesnt even play parry or bow like fighter

[restive lichen]

Send vid how you beat a barb that does more dmg and takes less dmg

Thats what I thought

[flat nymph]

I don't need to prove anything to you. Your argument is basically anyone doing more damage than you is bad game design you twit. Maybe move, block or keep distance and not run W at a Barb with a Bardiche or heavy hitting weapon. It's not rocket science, but I suppose for someone like yourself with half a brain cell and zero critical thinking it might as well be.

There are plenty of vids out there over skilling a barb and winning.

[restive lichen]

Says the one defending barb 2hitting in the most heavy armor possible

[flat nymph]

I'm not defending, but if they have a weapon doing 50+ damage it SHOULD hit hard.

[restive lichen]

Barb has perks and skills to gain distance on you too, you probably didnt know

[restive lichen]

The weapon hits maybe 10% slower than a longsword but does 40% more dmg

find the error

[fast shore]

Sounds like skill issue

[flat nymph]

I do know. My point still stands. You have a skill issue and can't adapt so you resort to crying like an entitled child. Imagine being this way over a video game. Paramount pathetic loser energy.

[restive lichen]

Never heard that one before, I want to nominate you for the big laugh award

[restive lichen]

WUUUAAAAH WUAAAAh

[viscid notch]

maybe just stop crying and play the game

[flat nymph]

Proving my point.

[restive lichen]

I can do both

[flat nymph]

Clearly not.

[dense berry]

All I hear is a barb player not wanting his easy no skill wins threatened

[fast shore]

https://tenor.com/view/odablockammy-odablock-amulet-amuletofr-joeyrushes-gif-1024827497160968397

Nominating you for the R amulet

[flat nymph]

I'm not a barb player and the fact you're defending that git is sad.

[dense berry]

What, two shotting a plate wearer does not sound balanced

[icy rapids]

bruh barb isnt even busted like that, its meant to be a strong character. What needs a hard nerfing is sorc

[dense berry]

You know how last month scientists trained some human brain cells in a petri dish to play Doom? You could also train those cells to play barb. And those cells would win 50% or more of the time. Barb is overpowered and needs nerfing

[finite yoke]

Bro is mad his low skill expression class is being criticized

[restive lichen]

HHAHAHAHHA

Legit most fun and second most skillfull class in the game you crazy

[flat nymph]

What part of I'm not a barb did you misread? Go ahead and be a part of rubes whine club, clown.

[restive lichen]

The barb I met would onehit any sorcerer out there

[vagrant fulcrum]

Let's stay respectful of others, folks 😉

[flat nymph]

Aye, aye.

[fast shore]

Reading your messages as your pfp makes you sound silly in my head and i cant take you seriously

[restive lichen]

xD

[icy rapids]

you mustve not played recently or played any arenas, Sorc got BUFFED again. Most busted class in the game got buffed again. Infinite spells and kite abilities, And can melee 2 tap barbs with glaciate stone skin, electric sphere and electric dash into 2 tap barbs.

[frail merlin]

lets take it easy, and as scaremenow said, keep things respectful

[viscid pumice]

funny rogue interaction

why didnt the video loadf

[restive lichen]

I know I played him and it was fun. He is in a good spot now. Was unplayable before because he had no agility at all

[fast shore]

Ok

[viscid pumice]

oh wait im not in rogue section

[icy rapids]

bros ragebaiting lmfao. bottom line, class is actually broken. Go against some sorcs in arenas and youll see what i mean. Its actually a broken character. Has no un proficiencies, Character can just infinite kite with infinite spells and can 2 tap barbs with melee.

[restive lichen]

Nobody 2 taps barbs other than another barb lol

And the barb can easily achiles strike and then onehit headshot

Get gud

[icy rapids]

must not have played ANY arena, go against an actually geared sorc bro. squire to riches sorc doesnt count. Idk what your talking about buddy. Go play lobbies with some gear in it and youll see what I mean, Yes sorc is 2 tapping barbs, dont be such a simpleton

[restive lichen]

Sorry I dont farm 1h a day to be able to play the game. I play normals or squires

[vagrant fulcrum]

I see a lot of
"Rogue can two-tap, broken",
"Barb can two-tap, broken",
"Ranger can two-tap, broken",
"Sorc can two-tap, broken"

If every class can two-tap, then it's balanced, no?

[restive lichen]

Good games dont have that

[indigo valve]

Tell me u only hold w without saying you only hold w

[icy rapids]

Sorc can infinite cast, has the best kiting abilities in the game, can teleport, and can combat every melee class in the game making them useless. AS A CASTER. Pretty balanced.

[indigo valve]

Melee sorc op

Caster sorc still mid as always

Druid has best kiting abilities btw

Tp doesn’t work half the time

[icy rapids]

melee sorc busted

[indigo valve]

Fr

[restive lichen]

Ranger can combat a melee class too if you press 1 to equip your melee weapon

[indigo valve]

Half ur health gone just by tp is kinda insane

[finite yoke]

Just catch them by surprise on tp or shoot with range??? Pretty easy

[finite yoke]

Don't cry if you queue hr with squire

[restive lichen]

You have 20HP??

[icy rapids]

idk where the element of surprise is when they buff themselves up and tp ONTO you ready to 2 tap you.

[indigo valve]

I bet I run more gear than u

[icy rapids]

yeah these guys are ragebaiting doorcouch, these guys play squire 2 riches.

[indigo valve]

S2R lmao

Yea prob

[icy rapids]

175hp barb in a 120k arena kit btw, cannot melee sorcs. explo does 1/3-1/4 of hp then the 2 tap machine comes out.

[finite yoke]

I main HR actually, I crushed a sorc chasing me by just turning around after I heard TP

[stuck narwhal]

is there a keybind to pull out my fist

[indigo valve]

X

[stuck narwhal]

is it worth using my fist when im just wondering

[indigo valve]

Nope

[stuck narwhal]

i assume it has less speed reduction right

oh

[indigo valve]

Oh yea

I thot u meant for fights

[stuck narwhal]

no no, just wandering**

[indigo valve]

But torch is better cs u pull out torch faster and u have light with no ms reduction

Yea fist and torch both have u at ur real ms

[finite yoke]

Light makes it easier to see you though

[indigo valve]

So fight

Don’t be a rat

[stuck narwhal]

i was being a rat

i hid from 3 people

im scared asl bro

i aint never played ts

[indigo valve]

lol just spam squire to riches it’s a good learning and pvp heavy mode

And do pve if u wanna learn bosses

[finite yoke]

Only in S2R because I don't bother to unlock white squire gear

[indigo valve]

Lol

[sturdy coral]

might be time to round up a few of those "ea jank" bugs if we're looking at 1.0 ... all the chat bugs, the recent players bugs, the exit lobby menu is really buggy...

[stuck narwhal]

is the bell a portal opening

[restive lichen]

Just continue farming 2h to play 1h lil guy

[rigid hornet]

Is there a sheet or like general advice on what enemies are weak to what? I'm running solo wizard and the zombies take way too much beating

When I'm in trio the melee guy usually deals with it, but alone they feel so tanky

[flat nymph]

You can search for them online, I type in the monster name and the wiki will say. Most undead not all, are weak to fire for instance. Living Armor lightning. Goblins arcane.. ect

[stuck narwhal]

what is midnight curse

[flat nymph]

What kills you if you don't leave by the timer end in ruins.

[stuck narwhal]

oh okay

and where do i see said timer

[flat nymph]

Depending what mode you're playing above the minimap in bottom right corner.

If you're playing HR there is no timer, just the progress bar

[stuck narwhal]

i havent purchased the game so im in normal dungeons

i think thats the difference right

its normal vs high dungeons?

i forgot what i saw

[flat nymph]

High Roller, yes.

[stuck narwhal]

do people play in normal even after purchasing the full game?

[flat nymph]

They do.

[stuck narwhal]

okay

i assume theres better stuff in high-roller dungeons

[flat nymph]

Way better yes, higher loot grades and drop chances

You can see what grade of gear can drop in a mode when you go to select it.

[vagrant fulcrum]

I think the most popular modes are
Arena > Squires > Normals > PvE > HR, however I don't have actual stats, this is just my thinking

[fervent anvil]

there is. people just dont want to fight people who use high gear

[fathom plaza]

Dark and Darker is sadly going to die not because its a bad game anymore, but because there player count is critically low. Not enough people play this anymore, so Arena matchmaking cant really skill match properly. Unfortunate but when games have this low of a player count they never really come back.

[fervent anvil]

arena matching aint based on skill. its based on rank. you can have someone who is really bad at pvp be at a higher rank or someone who is good but got placed low

[daring reef]

nah its gonna be Arenas > PvE > HR > Normals > Squires imo, it has been like weeks since i've had an empty hr lobby they're always full of people in bis

[fathom plaza]

*rank ya

still games toast, player count is never going to rebound

i wish it did

[vast halo]

running hide rogue making me realize how insanely hacker infested what is left of this playerbase is

nearly every game hiding in some dark corner that i'm not visible in and get charged

[fervent anvil]

player count is doing really good for how late in wipe it is :) its never gonna hit play test numbers cause there were multiple big streamers/yters who did some stuff on the game back then which gave it way too much hype for the state it was in.

[fathom plaza]

6,000+ on steam charts. thats basically dead for PC.

[strange sun]

6000 is dead? Since when?

[fervent anvil]

if only 6k was actually dead. so many games would be classed as dead games lol

[fathom plaza]

tthey are lol

[strange sun]

FR btw I started playing this yesterday, honestly this is like my dream game. I'm not even big on extraction shooters but it's really scratching an itch I didn't know I had for "90s-feel DOS RPG"

[fathom plaza]

it definetly does scratch that itch

[fervent anvil]

you can think that if you want to. i play multiple active games that have even less then this game in player count :) but if your basing your "dead game" numbers off of games like marvel rivals then yeah. this is a "dead" game compared to that

[strange sun]

You want a real dead game? Try playing Puzzle Pirates these days. RIP to a GOAT.

[vast halo]

the game itself is generally great. the playerbase is just full of streamers or nolifers with 1000's+ of hours, hackers, or rmt farmers with hacks unfortunately. it's incredibly difficult and frustrating for a new or average player to do anything

[strange sun]

Scans tbh. I'm still too scared to play PVP, hah.

[vast halo]

yeah my advice would be if you want to keep enjoying it just avoid HR entirely

[fathom plaza]

Marvel rivals has 14x the player count on steam charts rn

[strange sun]

TBH, I don't even really feel a big pull to try PVP so far, the PVE mode is terrific. Just a bunch of nice, hardcore, fiddly skeleton fights and piles of loot.

[strange sun]

Why are you comparing this to marvel rivals lol

[fathom plaza]

Id say the opposite, i only run HR

[fathom plaza]

Akay did not me.

[fervent anvil]

i think you completely skipped over my point but yeah ik. its a popular game

[strange sun]

Just read context - I think he's saying the same thing as me

[vast halo]

i do too and the experience is full of hackers

[fathom plaza]

im saying im not basing it off marvel rivals, because that is multiples better for active users

[strange sun]

This is the philosophy that's killing the games industry rn - all these bigwigs making games that they don't consider successful unless they make "All the money that has ever or will ever be"

Studios getting liquidated because they "only" sold 50k units. Like what

Sorry big rant I just get real tired

Also hi lol

[fathom plaza]

valid point

[red thicket]

so what happens when time runs out? havent played in like 2 years

[fervent anvil]

you die

[stuck narwhal]

Oh okay

[dire nimbus]

I cant even connect to server.

[slender sorrel]

any extra way to report teamers besides the ingame one two geared barbarians hand in hand in eu castle solos

possibly a bocwarlock with them since he came from the same direction and didn't fight them no way they missed each other

but he wasn't walking hand in hand with them like those two did

[pallid hemlock]

game only has two wipes left so theyre trying to get the most they can

[strange sun]

Two wipes left? What do you mean?

[pallid hemlock]

player count rate of change = 0 players in two wipes. realistically there will be a couple thousand loyalists, but that isn't necessarily sustainable

[pallid hemlock]

21k players two wipes ago, 16k last wipe, 11k this wipe.... you see the pattern?

[strange sun]

I mean I can barely talk, as I've been playing for two days - but it strikes me that this kinda doomsaying isn't in-itself good for retaining new players, hah.

[pallid hemlock]

this is far down on the list of things that arent "good for retaining new players" like really far down

[strange sun]

Yeah but you gotta be careful with that kinda statistical analysis. Someone pointed out that if Slay the Spire's growth continues as it has, then by STS4 they'll have more players than humans who have lived.

[strange sun]

What do you see as the biggest challenges to DaD's growth rn? I'm curious.

[foggy rain]

Self fulfilling prophecy when a game is already bleeding, basically
When everyone is always shouting "Dead game!" new players aren't exactly going to want to invest their time

[pallid hemlock]

yes, the difference is that it is obviously not possible for their to be more players than humans, while it is very possible for there to be 0 players

[foggy rain]

therefore if you're one of the people doing that you're kinda part of the problem

[strange sun]

This was kinda my thinking - Like when you said "This game has two wipes left" I thought for a minute you were saying "They've confirmed a shutdown" and I was gonna uninstall and be upset lol

[strange sun]

Basically this

[pallid hemlock]

the developers themselves. whatever decsion making structure they have needs an overhaul, meybe there was one recently, idk

[strange sun]

Sure - I'm just saying that statistical analysis is a delicate art with a lot of variables. Plus, by saying stuff like this, you're effectively discounting the idea that anything can change - that anything great can come out of these devs.

[strange sun]

That feels very vague. For what it's worth, the game feels great to me so far as an outsider. I often suspect this kind of thing affects existing players worse than new players because they sense the contrast between patches.

[fervent anvil]

if there were no devs then we wouldnt have any game lol. whats holding more people from joining is the fact that they havent really done much advertising for the game

[pallid hemlock]

just a lack of new content overtime, poor balancing decisions, adding things that don't fit, wasted effort on little things. its a solid game, but given how many developers they supposedly have and the timespan, its just very puzzling

[pallid hemlock]

top understander of things

make all games with AI

[distant juniper]

i agree
people forget about the game

[strange sun]

FR I had no idea it was available again and got lucky bumping into it browsing the F2P section on Steam

I was actually interested before it got taken down off of Steam

Definitely think some advertising would go a long way.

As for new content - I mean, I played Dota 2 and CSGO for years and those games barely change. I think a game can been tided along well without a lot of changes, as long as it has a strong foundation.

Try some hopium, it's good for you.

[fervent anvil]

no??? cs is very clearly massively different now. theyve added an entire plant pot to some maps

[pallid hemlock]

csgo doesnt have boof dungeon crawling mechanics sprinkled on top they get distracted with

[strange sun]

looooool

[strange sun]

boof?

[pallid hemlock]

ass

[strange sun]

i like dungeon crawling mechanics tho

[pallid hemlock]

🇵 🇴 🇷 🇹 🇹 🇭 🇪 🇧 🇴 🇴 🇫

[pallid hemlock]

yeah in general they are good

[eager comet]

does sun and moon perk apply to the druid as well

[strange sun]

You know what game this reminds me of RN? Vindictus. Man that was fun

[open hill]

offically done with this game until they take out druids

[fervent anvil]

druid feel really easy to deal with this wipe tho?

[rough dust]

🫃
🦵🥚

[open hill]

bro have u been playing the last 3 days all there is in solo is druid that rat away and bear form you

[fervent anvil]

bear is easy to kill tho? just dont hug it and you will win

[cyan walrus]

is the religion reward the same for all religions ? i just got red orc but does every religion get that or is the skin diff

[tardy horizon]

I love how you can block people in the game, and it does literally nothing

[fervent anvil]

its the same skin

[cyan walrus]

ah alr

[fervent anvil]

it blocks per character sadly :(

[tardy horizon]

I blocked a dude, and not only was I qued up with him 3 more times, but it doesnt mute him or his typing

[tardy horizon]

Nah not even that matters for arena

Love getting harassed by someone over and over again

Without the option to not see their chat

[fervent anvil]

play in a 3 man then

[fervent anvil]

you can turn off chat

[tardy horizon]

Im not turning off chat because of 1 person. Call outs are more important, but it sucks getting called slurs on repeat after blocking someone

And this shouldnt be the solution to this. If I block someone, fine, I might have to have them in my que, otherwise you could expoit arena. But it should auto mute them and their chat

[sturdy coral]

agree. theress a lot of chat/social bugs i would like fixed

[tardy horizon]

Thats somethign they need to fix before they really start trying to advertise to a larger audience again

Nothing to get casual players to quit like getting harassed by some of the low lifes that play this game

With no way of avoiding them

[neat cape]

Can anyone help a returning veteran player? I'm having a technical issue with my Epic Games Legendary status link. Support emails are not helping. Who can I talk to about a manual account check? I have all my proofs ready.

[fathom field]

Hello, I'm not sure if it's still available, but the developer has asked me to direct users to this contact point directly here:
https://www.darkanddarker.com/support/contact

[plain fox]

@fleet imp -- Is there a way to get the Hold the Line emote?

[fleet imp]

As far as I know, there hasn't been a way to obtain it since Hold the Line edition.

[plain fox]

Ahh sad, because i thought i had the founders edition (got it from the start)

would even gladly spend some reds for it

[fathom field]

I understand how you feel. I felt the same way when I missed out on buying the coffee emote. Now that the coffee is back in stock, I hope that the blue torch and emote will also be re-released as DLC.

[plain fox]

Would be really sweet!

[sturdy coral]

i hope someday we can see our rings and neck on the player model

[fathom field]

That's cool. I'd love to see our monkey boss dev wearing a monkey pendant haha

[fossil citrus]

i need to choose between steam platform and blacksmith platform cause there is no crossplay anymore, which platform is more active

[mortal talon]

So uh why does it take so long to get the madrinas coffee shit?

[mortal talon]

Wait what?

[fossil citrus]

check dm

[sturdy coral]

[fathom field]

Both connect to the same server, so you can choose whichever you prefer. In Japan, DLC is cheaper on Steam. Cross-platform play is supported.

[tulip basalt]

Does anyone know if there is jewelry spawn in captain key room on water map?

[plain fox]

@fleet imp -- Last question and not as a joke, but will there be a monkey skin soon? Would be cool to go all in as barb monkeys with clubs with monkey sound emote

[charred scaffold]

Stiil deramin over my cursed pyramid desert map...

[fleet imp]

One can dream...

https://tenor.com/view/beni-orangutan-bananas-big-boy-beni-ape-gif-16710417100673203364

[plain fox]

https://tenor.com/view/yuriatomoki-yuria-riku-tomoki-riki-japan-gif-26124719

[charred scaffold]

Cursed Pyramid Map

*Sand Storm/Pharos Curse Map Timer Effect
*Crocodiles, Scorpions, Scarabs, Sphinx (Elden Ring Style) new mobs
*Tons of Traps, Puzzles, Secret/Cursed Locations (Indiana Jones/The Mummy/Tombs of Amascut OSRS Vibe)
*Egyptian Deity Themed Bosses (Toth/Ra/Anubis/Horus)
*Catacombs and Pharos Chamber Loot Piles
*Necromancer/Death Knight Class Enters the Chat
*Necromancer Summons Skeletons skill/ability.
*Skeletons w/ Scimitars and Scimitar Weapon added
*Introduction of Ancient Cursed/Blessed Scrolls/Glyphs that give an effect or weapon enchant
*Introduction of Artifact Rarity Necklace/Rings

This could be a Multi layer map, Similar to Ice Caves, you enter the lower lvl by Entering the Pyramid.
*Top Level Desert Oasis
*2nd Level you have entered the pyramid
*If you wanted, there could be a 3rd Level as the Catacombs of the Pyramid.

What would you include in a Cursed Egyptian Pyramid Themed Map, would you enjoy this?
IMO This is much more on brand for DaD than the water world pirate map...

[granite bluff]

To clarify your first bullet point, do you mean timer countdown plays Sand Storm by Darude? Def down for this idea

[tardy horizon]

Can you use pickpocket in arena?

Because I see a lot of people with alt gear in arena, and itd be really funny to steal bis

[noble verge]

yeah man you totally can you should try it out

[eternal violet]

is there any way for me to make my game consume more of my gpu and cpu? its taking around 30% of each and im only getting 60 frames

[sturdy coral]

is ur fps capped?

[eternal violet]

nope

[sturdy coral]

very weird. is it capped in like NVIDIA settings or something

[eternal violet]

idk nothing is capped for me its just like really inconsistent going from 40s to 100s

ive double checked all my settings and everything

[feral crescent]

Just block

[placid jasper]

Is there a point to do the last Surgeon's quest ? Does he even sell blue bandage ?

[rigid hornet]

Are there plans for more wizard spells? seems like the options are rather limited streamlined

[marsh plover]

YO iron mace come get ya fat trailer park living kid WIZJAMES team killin in arena he already got a red name get him tf out of here fix ya gameeeeeeeeeeeeeee fr

[sturdy coral]

ban all red names from arena

[cobalt nexus]

does headshot bonus work with wiz spells?

anyone tested?

[sweet crag]

What’s the best AP grind rn? Haven’t played in afew months wanted to get back on it

[vague quest]

depends on the spell, but it should

[sturdy coral]

pretty sure all of em have headshot bonus

[cobalt nexus]

thx

[delicate terrace]

fastest-easiest? water map hr just opening chests and killin few mobs

[sweet crag]

Yeah I’ve hit demigod afew times just haven’t been playin much recently, how much on average is that giving since it’s one floor?

[gritty flume]

You still want lower cast speed for ray of darkness to make the cast longer right

[wild matrix]

Does anyone have a map on where the wardweed are on goblin caves?

[plain marlin]

so, casting a spell, using a staff and it hitting the wall behind you, is genius game design.

[rigid hornet]

got a noob technical question. The magical damage stat on your gear, like staff and crystal sword is applied to your spells or to the attack with the weapon as well?

i.e. Does the crystal sword deal Physical + magical damage on hit, or just physical?

So the +2 to magical damage to staffs perk for wizard is a +2 to the melee damage of the weapon and that's it, correct?

[fluid gate]

servers are so bad right now

[clear pendant]

they should rework magic staff animation, even with 30 action speed feel so bad

[restive lichen]

Such a nice mechanic that you can only report the person you are watching so you have to wait until your team is dead and can only report if the cheater or whatever is still alive!
Such a great design and 100% functioning as it should!
Good job!

[clear pendant]

they could improve it but still, if you guys received any damage from that cheater you can report him at the end of that game

[frail merlin]

Can always report using the report page, found by hitting escape>support>report player.

[strange sun]

Is there a whistle emote in this game?

[clear pendant]

day 3 asking @little summit to buff leaf golden to 11 headshot damage reduction

[neat urchin]

never understood ppl that loot entire modules in S2R just to die with it 90% of the time.

[severe terrace]

Yeah there is - forgot the name tho.

[granite bluff]

Probably just a newer player who doesn’t understand the diff modes

[strange sun]

Phew. I'm being messed with and not going mad then lol

[severe terrace]

Yeah it's happened to me too mate 😂

Rogues favourite pass time.

Look up probably.

[strange sun]

A dude ran into my node and I hid as rogue. He immediately exits out the same door he came in. A moment later I hear a whistle in the opposite ear and jumped a mile

[inner zephyr]

what is the cool down time for thorn coat on druid?

[rigid hornet]

lol, how would you want to do it? Have a spell that reports people? Or allow team members to observe them for you while they hide in a corner somewhere? It would be so toxic, everyone would be reported immediately for just winning.

[fossil stream]

having something similar

my game closes when I select barbarian

[novel stream]

hey so i just started playing after not playing for a while.. and it said in the forgotten castle my gear would be returned if i died, but i died and my group members looted me..

[visual crag]

why would skeletons have scimitars?

[mental garden]

So does bardiche hit 100% of the time when connecting to a target no matter what? I'll have a heater shield up and it connects effortlessly for free headshots any and every time without physically connecting with my character.

[visual crag]

yup seems like it

why ijust dont take this game seriously anymore, tired of being 2 shotted by barbarians.

[finite yoke]

Yeah the stab is easy to aim past shield, all other stab weapons are like that...

[mental garden]

nah it was a swing.

[finite yoke]

You need to aim your shield so it makes contact before it hits any part of your body

[charred scaffold]

because they've been related to any desert game ever, But I did make this before Cutlass.

[edgy sable]

pyramid map is a way easier win then the dumb water map they tried to make!

"oh no here comes da sandstorm" darude sandstorm starts fading in

[charred scaffold]

Thank you I have a vision put me in the kitchen coach

[edgy sable]

the smoke that kills you is a sandstorm thats also playing darude sandstorm

[mental garden]

I can use any other weapon and watch my weapon physically connect to someone using a shield, the shield might as well be just an invincibility button vs things other than bardiche.

[finite yoke]

Ive mogged barbarians so many times with buckler lol

[edgy sable]

"buckle this" Unzips whirlwind

[finite yoke]

Ah, the easy to predict ability

[edgy sable]

Yea kinda sucks you miss and athe guy just walks away lol

[mental garden]

i think in general certain things just don't add up to me (especially on even footing). i just ran a halberd build, multiple headshots to a sorcerer with first being victory strike and it took maybe 65 damage.

[dark meteor]

it keeps saying connection failed quit the server anyone knows why this could be happening? i havent played in a long time and i got the game from steam

[maiden prism]

Can anyone help me real quick to kill bladehand in normals, just 1 round.

u can also take the loot

[edgy sable]

Sorc running like 50%+pdr from spells equipped now

[drowsy crane]

Could I talk to a knight in dm's to get some pointers? I'm new to dark and darker and feel like I'm struggling

[fervent anvil]

you can join the knights server by pressing the "need a guide" button in the top left when your in the lobby. then you can request a knight from there

[finite yoke]

Im not knight but I've played since the playtests if you have questions or need advice with something

[edgy sable]

all mobs are practically defeated by bump into them / let them attack , then retaliate

[white sequoia]

Anyone know if we are going to see obsidian gear?

[edgy sable]

Yea maybe next season

Thats what they did with tidal ore

[white sequoia]

I was hoping for this season :/

[finite yoke]

+1% magical interaction speed

[edgy sable]

Releasing it the same season they introduce the ability to mine the ore would just make too much sense

"What if we let you mine it but it has no purpose yet"

🤯🤯🤯

Technically its required for some quests right now

[finite yoke]

They fired the crafting guy but not the ore guy

[maiden prism]

can anyone kill bladehand with me real quick just 1 round u can take loot

[swift grove]

I can kill bladehand for you if you still need help in 15min

[maiden prism]

yeah pls

[maiden prism]

just 1 run

[swift grove]

np just gotta clear firedeep rq and extract

[maiden prism]

yeah np i will try my last solo run then

[edgy sable]

RIP inventory guy

[swift grove]

im in english gathering hall whenever you're ready. lmk your character name and ill invite you when you join

[maiden prism]

Im the druid

[maiden prism]

Thx!

[swift grove]

np gl

[solid coyote]

yo rangers in chat what do you guys run for arena boots

[low kindle]

devs gotta have 0 brain cells

imagine getting caught teaming and getting TEMPORARILY BANNED ON ONE CHARACTER. NOT ALL JUST ONE OF YOUR 10 PLUS CHARACTERS AND SINCE THE BANS TAKE DAYS EVEN AFTER I SUBMIT EVIDENCE . THEY MOVE THE LOOT TO A CHARACTER THEWY WONT GET BANNED ON . I WORK ALL DAY JUST TO GET ON AND GET TEAMED ON ALMOST EVERY OTHER RAID AND 0 COMPENSATION

ADMINS AND MODS BE SO QUICK TO RESPOND TO SHIT TALK IN HERE. RESPOND TO THIS PU C

IVE GOTTEN ALMOST 20 PEOPLE TEMP BANNED . MAKING THE COMMUNITY BETTER AND GET NOTHING IN RETURN.

[sonic maple]

cuddle a cactus

[eternal violet]

is private messaging going to come back next wipe?

[scarlet tinsel]

anyone else having trouble queueing into PVE

[eternal violet]

do u have fill party members on?

[scarlet tinsel]

no :p

[ruby ore]

have they mentioned if monk will be last class added?

[zenith lily]

Is the chapel quest bugged I'm lost

[final finch]

its in crypts

[zenith lily]

I entered that room and it doesnt check it off

Oh, so bugged dungeon name?

Ah that room, ok, I'll go there

[final finch]

2nd floor i mean sorry

[zenith lily]

Nah you was right, the quest says ruins, unless they just dont give it a different name? Since there is a chapel in ruins lol

[final finch]

its one of those quests, but maybe qeust flavor text can be looked at location added

[queen hornet]

why tf is stripping to catch someone a thing

[zenith lily]

Yup... removing armor to increase ms... dirty thing fr

[magic sand]

is the game down rn?

[queen hornet]

you shouldnt be able to do while movig tho

[fickle marlin]

Can we do something about barb fighter wiz and barb fighter cleric comps in arena lol

Game so boring it's a hack and slash with these 2 comps in top 100

[vague quest]

65%***

[brittle barn]

holy fuck nerf warmaul

infinite swing animation, 10ft reach, -50% ms on the person you hit, absurd armor pen

[stuck gulch]

they nerfed the worst barb wepons well buffing the best ones the deves are trying to push us away from the game

[pallid hemlock]

SDF is actually the only nexon shipjumper, the rest of the devs are working undercover to sabotage the operation

[novel stream]

hey everyone, if I'm pretty new, are there any classes that are easier to learn over others?

[sonic maple]

This is a lemonade stand sir

[plush storm]

When is wipe?

[brittle barn]

barb

[warped inlet]

whats more fun rn? sorc or rogue?

[lament maple]

4 minute arena queue

Holy games dead

[wraith robin]

Druid are so cancer instant transform bear panther bear panther bear. who is balancing this game ? At least put a cooldown jesus fuk

[edgy sable]

65!!!!!!!!! OH MYY GAWHD

i need the stuff these guys smokin

In classic Dungeons & Dragons design:

🧙 Sorcerer baseline
Glass cannon energy 💥
High spell damage, low survivability
Light/no armor
Weak weapon scaling
Wants distance, not face-to-face combat

If a sorcerer is in melee, something already went wrong 😅

[brittle barn]

Instant transform is gone, youre just horrible

[edgy sable]

not even like a MAGIC shield or something jeeze thats wizard i guess idk (reactive shield) mud armor makes sense but why it make you turbo tanky for free

maybe all the mud should also make you barely able to move 🙂

[brittle barn]

It is slow, its the TP that you gotta watch out for. Trick is to run/kite when u see them buff up, and then heavy push after they waste their buffs

[potent pine]

how to message poeple you see in gmaer

its like /username right?

[frail merlin]

/w username i believe but you can only whisper friends now

[fervent anvil]

also /r to reply if you got a whisper from someone

[frail merlin]

Thank you 🙂

[clear pendant]

🤣

[undone kiln]

can anyone tell me if some items are good

[vapid oyster]

some items are good, yes

[flat cave]

Hey does anyone know if the Tavern master, collector, and goblin merchant quests still give cosmetics?

I dont see the final quests which usually give them

has anyone completed all of them so far

[indigo valve]

Yep sadly

[sonic maple]

Not out

[brittle barn]

Remove healers from arena, that shits so fking busted

love being stuck in a room with a team i have to beat 10x over again to win

[potent pine]

What is the debuff that keeps appearing on me and no teamates that shows 2 swords

[keen mauve]

Combat

Pretty sure its there just for certain perks to activate

[sonic maple]

Jump in combat debuff

[eternal violet]

is there any way for me to get my game to consume more of my gpu? it only consumes around 20% and its causing me to get around 70 fps which is inconsistant

[sonic maple]

Feed it

[queen acorn]

please bring back goblin merchant i just lagged out of the game with a 50k kit and all that shit is gone now genuinly fix your shitty game please

[sonic maple]

Increase your internets per second

[bronze star]

are there maps that show resource deposits, so I don't have to spend hours learning the maps? I don't really want to wander around looking, that isn't that fun to me

[vapid oyster]

https://darkanddarkertracker.com/maps

[bronze star]

thanks

[steel jolt]

IS there a way to change my name of character without deleting?

[fervent anvil]

nope

[vague quest]

do your quests brodie

goblin return is based on affinity now

[mint pollen]

when is wipe?

[thin patio]

hey on crypts treasure room module arena map it is possible to get stuck in a corner between a brazier and the corner such that you cannot leave or attack from @zinc sparrow

[thin patio]

end of april

[unique locust]

love your game and design but the cheater low fame hacker problem you guys have is unbelievable. @glad thunder need a better anti cheat or software.

[eternal violet]

whats cinders worth?

[brisk urchin]

game crashed when starting arena now its not letting me in the game

just sending me to lobby

thx

[thin patio]

@glad thunder nerf barb whirlwind to 60 or 70% dmg 80 is still so high for a 0 skill ability

[swift ether]

Sounds like a "on your end issue"

[edgy sable]

I think you are thinking of the MAP genie!

[sonic maple]

But what about the beyblade boys

[thin patio]

they would be balanced 🫡

[violet ivy]

whats worth 20k

[edgy sable]

what if you can block it and that stops it but if they hit someone in a rotation it doesnt end!!!!

the full mulcher!

You cast WW on ghost king and he just keeps spinning

[thin patio]

thats wild maybe if you block it it goes back in like a looney toons recoil with a back swing

[thorny bronze]

somebody kill these expressman campers on east watermap they have bloodthirst and viola i keep getting into a game with them

[edgy sable]

bounty out!

[thorny bronze]

w manz

[steel matrix]

Thanks for the kit lil bro

[thorny bronze]

your a loser

[steel matrix]

Dont get mad just because you folded

Biss turned to piss

stay in base kit noob

[thorny bronze]

are you the one with viola or bt

[steel matrix]

viola

[thorny bronze]

you camp express

[steel matrix]

not my fault you died to it

[thorny bronze]

@edgy sable

stitch go back in east puh

[thin patio]

lil chuddy wants squire kit loot using his artifact?

[cold dew]

why is no one onnnn😭

[thorny bronze]

what was your ingame name

was it actually you

[steel matrix]

He aint runnin squire kit lil bro

[thorny bronze]

i was in bis

[steel matrix]

DaddyChimes

[thorny bronze]

your such a loser bro

it was you

[main lintel]

day 190 of asking for pve to be removed for the health of the game

[thin patio]

aight then big ups mister chuddy

[thorny bronze]

camping express tho>?

[steel matrix]

Day 1 of asking for gear score reqs to be added again to avoid broke noobs like @thorny bronze

[steel matrix]

im in east doin boss runs rn cutie

[thorny bronze]

i bet your still camping it

[unborn hamlet]

Do centipedes not drop jewelry anymore

[thorny bronze]

chudddd

[steel matrix]

nope, gotta craft jewlery now

[unborn hamlet]

Thanks

[mental garden]

day 250 of asking barbarian to not be fully and completely invincible every game

[main lintel]

they arent anymore

and this is coming from a wizard....

[indigo valve]

Games to play instead of dark and darker?

[steel matrix]

rocked league

[indigo valve]

So I don’t wanna take my own life actually

[steel matrix]

Darker and RL are ther only 2 good games brotha

[indigo valve]

Both games r buns

Dark is Dying for a reason

[pastel plaza]

it'll live a little logner if they remove hide

[steel matrix]

Yh because they thought a PVE mode was a good idea

[indigo valve]

Facts

If they removed pve there’d be like 2500 player count

[fleet surge]

Been hearing this for the last 6 seasons lol

[pallid hemlock]

and? 21k two seasons ago, 16k last season, 11k this season....

[indigo valve]

Count gets lower and lower faster every season

Literally

[pallid hemlock]

means nothing ig

[indigo valve]

Devs couldn’t care less

[fleet surge]

Every time I get on this season almost 10k on lol

[pallid hemlock]

🇵 🇴 🇷 🇹 🇹 🇭 🇪 🇧 🇴 🇴 🇫

[indigo valve]

What’s count rn

[fleet surge]

Yall want the game to die so bad and its not gonna 🤣

[pastel plaza]

4k dung or so, not bad

[fleet surge]

Not for a while at least

[indigo valve]

Only cause the rmtrs and squires in hr keep playing

[pallid hemlock]

why would anyone want it die

[indigo valve]

“I’m gonna hide in the dark and spam hide haha I’m such a rat with no job and I’m fat asf”

[pallid hemlock]

what game is boof and goofer pulling players away from

[fleet surge]

People are gloom and doomers lol

[pallid hemlock]

idk i think they can just do math tbh

[indigo valve]

Yea I mean losing players every bad patch yk

Eventually there’s none left

[fleet surge]

Like i said for the last 6 seasons people been saying its dying its dying one or two more seasons and its over 🤣 yet here we are. When games like smite exist with less than 500 concurrent players I dont think this game is gonns die

[indigo valve]

Sdf working on a new project too he knows the game is cooked

Less than 500 players is dead

In the coffin

[fleet surge]

Yeah sdf left and they bring out w patches

[swift solstice]

my friend had to altf4 his game because he was bugged in trios, the game killed him immediatley and now he didnt get his kit back even though we took it out with us????????

[pallid hemlock]

nah it has to be servers shutdown to be dead. otherwise its thriving

dead or thriving
those are your options

[fleet surge]

Dead implies you can't play the game anymore

Bc there is not enough people

[indigo valve]

He should’ve, merchant might have to refresh and make sure he’s on the right character

[swift solstice]

he's on the right character, he got his halberd and bow back from me like normal. the rest of his actual kit was on our third and it took it from him like normal but didnt give it to the owner

its just gone

[pallid hemlock]

its good to see more than 50% of players actually in the dungeon and not dealing with the boof numbers-go-up mathplay on the market. usually players in-lobby/in-dungeon number is almost equal

[indigo valve]

Weird af idk

[swift solstice]

sdf is resposible im sure

[feral crescent]

That happened to me about a month ago too. My game was rubberbannding bad so I quit the game to see if it would fix it. My mates got my kit out and nothing got sent to me when they got out.

[bronze star]

Does anyone have a link to new maps, that are actually current? mapgenie hasn't updated for ruins aparantly

[obtuse agate]

I just pulled a gold coin bag out of the rusty key door, went down and got another bag from the skull key room. Talk about a W night lol

[mental garden]

oh dear god i just went into normals for first time in a while and it's just people literally setting up their RV camps in a doorway with drinks and food and tailgate fr... i would rather play squire

[vocal belfry]

Come back to the game after like a year... and... 90% of fights are STILL ppl just sitting back flinging arrows from STILL broken bows. What in the actual fuk are these devs even doing?

[vague quest]

thats what HR is too, enjoy

[potent pine]

anyone else get an issue where it doesn't let them into high roller for not having legendary status. I know I have it, ivve bean playing arena and using the market fine and have bean playing this game for years but now it saying hgih rollers locked behind legendary status

[pallid hemlock]

when tho when tho when tho
WHEN GRAYSUN WHEN

when are we going to

🇵 🇴 🇷 🇹 🇹 🇭 🇪 🇧 🇴 🇴 🇫

[misty schooner]

can anyone explain how the luck stat works

[pallid hemlock]

it doesnt

[brittle barn]

holy fuckin ban healers from arena

[potent pine]

help?

please

[brittle barn]

Dark Offering Demon + Mele/smite healer cleric + Druid healer is literally unbeatable

Every one of them can easily frontline and tank yet also heal their teammates 1000hp/round

[potent pine]

wixard with fire mastery

[brittle barn]

LOL thats cute

yes 4s of heal cut sure doin something buddy

[potent pine]

to 3 people yes

[pallid hemlock]

standard W gameplay

[potent pine]

aand spalsh fire balls

[potent pine]

help

[brittle barn]

Yeah just runs in a straight line for 10m and wins

kited them til the zone closed every round but they have unlimited healing and if they catch some1 they get 1-2 tapped

[pallid hemlock]

the game is fundementally boof and broken in so many ways, either reinstall or chalk it

[brittle barn]

Buy the game if u wanna play HR

[potent pine]

i bought it in 2024

ive beean playing highroller for 2 years now

[whole acorn]

Submit a ticket on the dark and darker website.

[brittle barn]

You switch between steam/blacksmith ?

[potent pine]

i alr did but you think they will help?

[whole acorn]

yes they will

[potent pine]

ok

[potent pine]

no just black smth

[whole acorn]

would you get in one of the voice channels and share your screen in game

[potent pine]

yes

im in tavern

[brittle barn]

my dearest sympathies, you are now free from the curse it sounds though

[tame elbow]

Workshops are crazy expensive, aren't they? Worth leveling up?

[nocturne hound]

HELL NAH

[nocturne hound]

cost about 100k raw gold to max just to reroll for 2-5k per u can buy the items for less than reroll cost most often

[acoustic wing]

Is game dead

[undone kiln]

do i keep rustry key

if i extract

[thorny hemlock]

hi how much is the max pdr % ?

[charred saffron]

65% and its 75% with defense mastery

[charred saffron]

you dont keep the rusty key when you extract and the loot room for it is the small shipreck a little above the center of the map

[thorny hemlock]

thx

[undone kiln]

kthanks

[sonic maple]

Are you alive

[upbeat swallow]

my queues keep getting cancelled around 10min mark for arena

why does that happen?

[blazing path]

I downloaded the game version on Steam but I can't create an account in it because it doesn't accept any of my names. What should I do?

[indigo edge]

water map needs to be removed from squire to riches fr

im a non believer

[vague quest]

counter arguement: make s2h only maelstrom

[wet seal]

Does Arena need to be self found this season?

[vague quest]

no

[tawny fulcrum]

Give me back my cozy dark castle, this game is called dark and darker, its not DARK enough BRO

[inland walrus]

is this game dead?

[light ivy]

This game can’t die

[plain marlin]

ya, cult game, will never die

[light ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/never-die-dead-game-of-thrones-got-gif-13970863

[drowsy pebble]

what class is meta rn i stopped playing for awhile

[light ivy]

Barb

[rigid hornet]

This game is giving me some ye olde gladiatus/bitefight vibes, probably just the lobby menu

[inland walrus]

stop playing this shit dead game

[rigid hornet]

#report-a-bug should do the trick and you should try using Steam community forums, might be a better way to get a useful answer.

[wary vigil]

k thanks

[drowsy pebble]

how many players online rn?

[rigid hornet]

Peak today was 7k, rn it's 6k. It's 305th most played rn. Other online games like albion, lost ark, SoT are right next to it, so it's by no means dead.

[spring crypt]

guys when is the next wipe?

[rigid hornet]

End of april I think

Is there any way to preserve any items at all btw?

[spring crypt]

NOPE

all gone

[sturdy coral]

even better there’s 2~3k more playing on blacksmith that steam doesn’t see

[rigid hornet]

It'd be kind of cool to have to go somewhere deep in a dungeon to throw a single item into a rift and after wipe you can go back to retrieve it. You're still running the risk of losing the item, but some items could become perpetual, going from player to player

[vagrant fulcrum]

Seasonal wipes is when all the characters and their inventory are wiped clean.

• All characters return to level 1.
• All items in Inventory and Stash are deleted for all players, including gold and gold storage items.
• All quest progression is reset.
• All affinity with Merchants are returned to 0.
• Triumph levels (for Blue Shards) are reset.
• All Arena and Adventure Points (Ranks)

What you do keep:

• Your character (their class, their name, their current race and perhaps equipped cosmetics)
• Your characters' Prestige level (total level earned with that character through all seasons)
• The cosmetic items you've unlocked (item skins, races, lobby skins, emotes)
• Blue and Red shards currencies
• You will receive via the Leaderboards the Arena and Adventure Points rewards (sometimes not immediately at the start of the season).

[rigid hornet]

Thx

[vagrant fulcrum]

Interesting concept;
For the last week, players can "lend" an item (any item) to the Goblin Merchant, one item per character.
At the start of the next wipe, the Goblin Merchant returns with an item that was loaned by a player to him, but not necessarily yours.
There would be a chance for the item to be another character's and your item given to another character as well (not necessarily one of your character either).
Chance would have to be high enough that it's worth trying (and it's gonna get wiped anyways), but not guaranteed either.
75% chance to get your item back, 25% chance to get some other player's item (Arrow 🙁 )

[rigid hornet]

Cool, Does it keep track of how many seasons it survived?

[vagrant fulcrum]

That would be great, however it would add an extra line of code on all items that would only be useful for like 0.01% of the items

[rigid hornet]

It could be appended to the line that says who found it. "Found by Player X seasons ago"

So it stores the player name followed by the season it was found in in a single string or whatever is used to store it

[dusky marsh]

bitefight was peak

[swift grove]

ya know, I could really use ONE common invis potion at the start of each wipe

yes, I know you intended this to be used on bis but if I have a 25% chance to ruin someones day with that feature, i gotta do it

[vagrant fulcrum]

But if everyone does it, nobody gets anything good, ruining everyone's fun, and most likely your own.

[subtle heart]

The whole concept is stupid and goes against the point of the wipe and would ruin SSF as well as allowing ppl to potentially use multiple accounts to give themselves a full OP kit for the next wipe.

[swift grove]

so basically, the way it was before but I get an invis pot for my first run? deal

i see no downside

[subtle heart]

One item per character is crazy too

People would literally get their full kits back

[vagrant fulcrum]

One, non-SSF kit for one character. Might be strong, especially if you do it with your trios. Everyone pulls their gear and you can roll lobbies for a while.
Then lower the chance to get your own item

[subtle heart]

So make it OP then nerf it? Now you’re thinking like you work at Ironmace, you’re hired kid.

[swift grove]

hold on, hes almost there. the ironmace way would be to tease the feature for "next season" but it doesnt appear til 3 seasons later with a dupe bug and 18 hours of maintenence

he's going in the right direction for sure

[lost estuary]

any updates on when a new class may be added?

[swift grove]

no

[lost estuary]

@swift grove ok sorry for asking. just haven't checked up on this game for awhile.

[swift grove]

no need to be sorry

theres just no new info. even if there was, would we trust it? probably not. Monk was supposed to be out what 2 seasons ago?

[subtle heart]

Then revert the change and add it back 3 times

[lost estuary]

yea. honestly that's really what i'm waiting for. it's my favorite class to play as in dnd so

[swift grove]

we'll get monk around the same time as gathering hall update, guilds, new druid forms, live in-person arena events at IRONMACE's expense, inventory rework, and all the other pipe dream shit ironmace has talked about in the last 2 years

[warm sun]

do artifacts drop from piles?

[granite bluff]

Yeah but only from “special” piles… key rooms and double boss rooms

[swift grove]

yes, but only certain ones. double-boss piles on ruins and GC and key room piles (mystical gem, skull key, frozen key etc)

[granite bluff]

There is a mystery module in crypts, no clue if it drops there

[quick glade]

nope only kays and double boss rooms

[young vessel]

NERF CLERIC

[pliant valley]

Tokyo is full of cheap shot hacks. just putting that out there. nobody has any class or sportsmanship this morning in tokyo

[granite bluff]

Ok good, everyone stay away from my Torchbound Vault 😆

[past badge]

"I died to a cleric who DOMINATED ME"

[wise turret]

this morning? try 24.7

sea is the same

and oce when they come here

[timber imp]

He got smited with the power of God and anime

[prime fossil]

Can you rebuild gemmed items ?

[young vessel]

NERF CLERIC

[sturdy coral]

only rebuild whole item in the workshop

[swift grove]

yup

[wise turret]

why do people from a certain region indulge in cheats so much?

[wooden breach]

yo guys, quick question in the description it says deal 30(0.5) physical dmg so it deal 52+the 30 dmg over 5 second right?

[vapid oyster]

the 0.5 is the scaling

[wraith egret]

this game is insanely broken, hitreg and noregs are just literally game breaking at this point, gj ironmace keep the amazing work up

[rose zephyr]

(0.5) scaling
if u have 50% MDB and spell have 30 dmg
u give only 30(base) + 25% (7.5) from mgb (total30+7,5)

if scale (1), u apply full amount (total: 30 + 50% (15 from mdb)) 30+15

[pallid hemlock]

i mean.. yah. have you seen ranged combat? its just inertia-free side strafe scuffery. thats to be expected tbh

[granite bluff]

Ranged is broken but def not inertia free lol

[pallid hemlock]

player movement is inertia-free

[vapid oyster]

add quake movement already

[mortal crater]

its the game a little laggy or is only me?

[granite bluff]

Yea they outta add stamina to drawing your bow at least so you cant just hold the arrow and strafe around forever

[pliant valley]

it's always been the game

isp gets choppy sometimes too

[restive lichen]

Fix spectral knight so 3 attacks dont have the same windup

[pliant valley]

I just noticed... Did Graysun really leave the discord? i don't see his name in the ppl list

Slowly pulling out

[swift grove]

hes prob invis mode so people dont see him playing marathon

[surreal crown]

is euro server low pop? normals seems pretty empty, or just a few people

[brave mango]

you literally see him still in the server if you just check the announcements lmao
#📢community-announcements message

[pliant valley]

no, i don't see him

[brave mango]

[pliant valley]

i see posts from paul, but no Graysun in the player list

i see chyunkus up top now

[brave mango]

dude he can just be invis, if he's still blue because of the role then he's in here

what are you on about

[pliant valley]

idk, i was just saying i couldn't see him. i don't know about the invisible stuff.

i thought he left

[brave mango]

no hes still here, invis is a status that just hides you from the online playerlist

[frail merlin]

Yeah, he’s still very much in the discord, he’s simply offline or invisible.

[heavy crater]

can we get a way to change character names before 2027 pls chat !

some blue/red essence per available namechange sounds minty!

[pliant valley]

there is a way

[heavy crater]

character or account name

[pliant valley]

both

[heavy crater]

how to change character name brotha pmo pls

[pliant valley]

either or

[heavy crater]

i only knew you could change account

[pliant valley]

delete character and make new one

[heavy crater]

oh yeah see thats silly

[pliant valley]

LUL

[heavy crater]

i got mad fame on some of these characters lol

[pliant valley]

it's the only way my man

[heavy crater]

fork that 💔

maybe next wipe ig

ig thats why i get demi on ranger before wipe ends actually

[pliant valley]

what's the character name?

[heavy crater]

JusABadBitti 😭

[pliant valley]

ranger?

[heavy crater]

my rangers troll i made it before i knew anything about the game because ranger was a female lol

yeah lol

bro my druids CrudeWaste

[pliant valley]

Lol

[heavy crater]

getting merked by some1 named crudewaste is outrageous

[pliant valley]

my bard is TickleUrFancyParts

[heavy crater]

😭

yeah i wanna change my bard its B4rdar1an cuz bardarian was taken lmfao 😭😭

stupid asf

[pliant valley]

LUL

my rogue is IvanahStabalot

[heavy crater]

Yeah i need my ranger to be something like that

HeadTapsU or something

[pliant valley]

my Ranger is 10centRides Lol

i think the best though, is my Barb. ColonCleanzer

i think it would be awesome to have enemy player names show up as red when you get like 7m from them. so it can show off ur name before u kill them

[wooden breach]

so if we take your exemple it does 52 base damge and 37.5 with the BT effect so 89.5 (OFC without the mdr and pdr) right?

[pliant valley]

excpet for invis or hiding rogue

[spark hedge]

if u presss leave to lobby in adventure mode u recover the items?¿

[pliant valley]

do you mean if u die or if u r in a party and leave after u extracted?

if ur in a party and have extracted u will keep ur stuff. if u died and leave you will have to wait for the goblin to recover

[spark hedge]

@pliant valley okay my friend press leave to the lobby (alone) with the set and he recovered in the goblin

[pallid hemlock]

that would be awesome, but stamina is exclusive to water map and only when youre in the water, unfortunately

[granite bluff]

Doesnt need to be like the water map tho… you wouldnt even need a stamina bar for it…. Just make the bow shake progressively worse the longer you hold it and eventually the arrow either releases unexpectedly or is withdrawn back

[cinder oxide]

dear Paul
please buff Holy Aura
its so bad
sincerely
a concerned player

[lusty slate]

how many days till wipe?

[frail merlin]

qna said it was planned for the end of april, but no date has been officially announced yet.

[lusty slate]

fr? I sold all I had thinking the wipe was this month

[swift grove]

this is why media literacy is important

[woeful bluff]

Do you usually sell everything a month before wipe lol?

[gloomy sand]

i get punished for killing a team mate when they shoot me in the back of the head and then jump infront of me when i shoot a dark bolt and die cuz of it

W game bro holy shit

[plain marlin]

which questline ends with the green torch? tavernmaster?

[silver smelt]

i can't wait for arena tournnament

[stuck narwhal]

yo

[stray narwhal]

Rogue infestation needs to go

[sonic maple]

i can't wait for arena tournnament TO END

[pure trout]

wdym? Rogue cave only has 4 rogues at once

i died in the beginning to a sorc and then got to spectate the map and there were 3 rogues camping

1 camping red, 1 camping mid elevator and one camping the other elevator

[stray narwhal]

😂 Yup, I just got ambushed then there were 7 players in my lobby, me on bard, 1 ranger and 5 rogues. SO boring

[pure trout]

one of them ahd db too

also druids are just stupid

like bear tanks anything

I have a clip of me hitting a druid 7 times yesterday (while fully geared) and he didnt fking die

hes till had 20% health left

[pallid hemlock]

oh i know

[pure trout]

you just go bear and button mash

[stray narwhal]

I don't mind druids at the moment, its just the amount of ratting rogues there are. So uninteractive just getting jumped by someone not moving thje entire game

[pallid hemlock]

thats the logical way pretty much every first person video game with bows has gone about it in one way or another. meanwhile, we have stamina exclusive to not just water, but the water of one map. thats where we are at and where weve been at for about a year now, i think? just saying, you gotta accept boof and goofer for what it is and what these devs can offer rather than what it can potentially be

[broken isle]

is there a way to get peoples names that were in your game so u could report

[autumn oasis]

yeah, remember them

[dull talon]

i have a debate right now

would you guy call dad an fps?

guys

[autumn oasis]

obviously not

[noble verge]

No?

[dull talon]

my friend insist that it is, because of all the range options

[autumn oasis]

well your friend is a idioot

[cinder oxide]

door meta needs to end

[autumn oasis]

ban doors so this guy can stop getting played by them

[hidden vapor]

they really need to address the teaming problem

[broken isle]

what servers u on

[hidden vapor]

east

[broken isle]

oh i have been running to the same Chinese guys on west

its so bad in solos

[hidden vapor]

bro its just 2 barbs ive reported them like 3 times and they are always there

chasing me like i can do anything about it

[broken isle]

one day bro they will find a way

[autumn oasis]

lol

here's what you do

make a friend

and que something else

[hidden vapor]

id rather play a different game from now on

[broken isle]

its in all gamemodes

[granite bluff]

Sadly not enough players, easy for ppl to queue snipe solos so they load in together

[hidden vapor]

sold my artifacts because im not gonna run them and get teamed on lol

[autumn oasis]

why sell them if you're going to play a different game, just log out, right?

[hidden vapor]

dont want a reason to log onto it plus if im not gonna use them someone else can

[autumn oasis]

the wrong things to care about but whatever makes you sleep at night

[pallid hemlock]

right, the one guy 🤣

[real forge]

Will arena ever do Legendary/unique gear?

[lime verge]

whats the maximum time for leaving a game penilty?

[fervent anvil]

maybe for a pre wipe event. but prob not

[pliant valley]

prob eventually have HR Arena

but u lose ur gear

🤣

[restive lichen]

⬆️

[real forge]

Have they announced when wipe is?

[fervent anvil]

no

only that its end of next month

[feral cradle]

MI WON,, PRAGG WON 🔥🔥

[lime pine]

Are people hacking in low ranked Arena? Some of the rangers hit 100% of the shots. I never seen these kind of guys in dungeon

[edgy sable]

No I won't do my chores SDF , you can't make me!

[honest cedar]

Tell me you play Dark and Darker without using it's name...

• Every other day when I log on, the game notifies me that I have gotten more people temporarily banned for cheating...

[edgy sable]

"temporarily" 🤣

[granite bluff]

My game lags and has a ton of bugs in it

[sullen anchor]

whats the difference betwixt the different tiers of aquaglow lantern

[granite bluff]

Ive been wondering this for so long lol

[austere flicker]

I'm new and dont have tons of time to put into the game. Is there 1 class that is good in solos, duos, and trios?

[eternal violet]

sorcs pretty good in all of them

[robust sigil]

does the double boss room in ruins have a chance of unique? done it 7 times now and only purple / leg

[fervent anvil]

in hr you can get a named from it. in norms its just the same as before

[robust sigil]

thats what i thought but

been concerning unsure what the rate of drops are

[sullen anchor]

in hr yes, in norms no

but the chance for a named is so abysmal you might as well go kill lich

[robust sigil]

i do both bosses, warlord then gk

not sure if its worth the time though

just takes the whole ruins lobby to do it

[fluid gate]

Hello im noob and found 2 bodys with good stuff someone can help me to do a good deal in trade tab?

[rugged totem]

On water map I feel like only thing I run into are max PDR halberd fighters or armor penetration bardiche barbarians.
What is the best counter to this?
Pls @ me

[fluid gate]

ranger or bard

[wooden breach]

yo guys, i have a BT and someone want to treade it for his life and death what should i do?

[fluid gate]

with aditional phys

what is bt

blood thirst?

do not accept

for what ik lad = a db

and bt = 3 db

so not fair

[wooden breach]

ok ty

[warm ingot]

Solo S2R would help new player retention so much. Wish they would consider this

[edgy sable]

Did they fix sorc having 1000000% pdr for some reason

[fast shore]

Barbarian, fighter, warlock is very versatile in all 3 as well

[dense berry]

My brain damage is in the way, what is S2R?

Oh squires to riches

I'd only ever play solo squire to riches that would be great

[north kindle]

For the love of god please create more than one Fire Elemental in the Firedeep

[slim helm]

if I wanted to go and try to kill a boss for the first time solo, where would a good place to start be? ive killed one of the goblin cave bosses like a year ago in a full trio but, trying solo i, ive tried the gobbo bosses and spectral, ive watched other people do it, but maybe im just not good lol.

[north kindle]

start with how to youtube video's, lots of good ways to off a boss

[robust sigil]

spectral is best boss

mechanically

[dark glen]

sPECTRAL IS easy, banshee too. we killed cyclops first try as duo with no clue what to do lol

[slim helm]

thats the issue lmao. ive watched these videos and they do it so effortlessly that when i go and try, the boss seems to never act the same as in the videos.

[edgy sable]

troll is just learning to circle in the proper range where you dont get screamed but dont get hit , like a middle band

thats basically cyclops too and then you worry about rock fall

[slim helm]

got it, im just bad. understood. it seems like all that guy ever does is scream

[edgy sable]

if he screaming youre too far away. if he screams he will then run up and do an attack and i just always hope its low attack so i jump crouch, you can dodge that scream follow up too

[north kindle]

nah just takes a bit, I died frequently when i first tried. You'll get it if you keep trying, learning the patterns

[edgy sable]

ye like a couple hours of just going in and trying to feel out the range

circle left is easier on troll cause therse a slightly less mechanic to learn, circle right is more fun 😄

[slim helm]

yeah, im definitely a very 'casual' player. im sitting only 360hr but ive had the game for a good while, its just rough trying to experience what the whole game has when i only play for like 15hours in a week.

[swift solstice]

Free Ken

[edgy sable]

I saw that clip hahaha.

As someone around since the beta their inability to allow situations like that has neutered out probably some of the most interesting things that could occur.

(Such as that high iq move)

[swift solstice]

Paul and Terry need to revamp SDFs stupid high roller rules

Allow for organic player interaction

[surreal arch]

Can we freaking hell get normal InGame chat? It is so annoying when you write longer message that sometimes it is cut in parts.. unable to read it

[surreal arch]

What does that mean?

[red owl]

any suggestion for the bladehand boss?

does it have any weaknes?

[surreal arch]

Cut off his hand. Handless one is easier.
(Just stupid joke, but I had to!)

[north kindle]

where do i submit complaints

one fire elemental, jaysus

[swift grove]

spear is his weakness. the reach makes him easier, plus good block for the shots. run it on fighter or lifebloom druid for an easy time

[red owl]

i like fighter

what abilities should i rush

[swift grove]

idk ive not done it on fighter. i do it on bard or druid usually

[swift solstice]

Ken and Morty were fighting a team in HR duos and they got 3rd partied, morty died and Ken being a cleric teamed up with another player whose duo died to fight the third party team, after ken and the random won, he revived morty and Ken let the other guy revive his duo so they could have a fair fight, then they fought, but because they “teamed” to fight the third party, Ken is banned

[south copper]

that kind of thing used to be okay, but the team china mentality ruined it for fun dungeon delvers

[swift grove]

probably swift, def mastery, vet instinct, weapon guard? with second wind + flag
run plate hat, chest, gloves and leather pants n boots for movespeed. you dont need to be very fast just enough to get in to point blank range when he does his aoe

[south copper]

game was more alive, fun, and had more interaction before all the rules had to go in

[grand schooner]

When are the new quests for the skins coming out

[red owl]

understand ty

[edgy sable]

I don't even think they should have to fight it out, it's always been odd the devs think humans would just be 100% blood thirsty hostile to each other in a dangerous environment (literally inverse of how we operate)

[eternal violet]

is there any way for me to make my game consume more of my gpu? its using around 20% and its causing me to get around 50-60 fps

[red owl]

when he shoot the flare, how many hp hes missing in your opinion?

[swift grove]

he calls for ballistae at 20% hp iirc

[surreal arch]

Ah.. weird ya.
Kinda different mentality compared to Arc Raiders (tried it for a bit...) I Guess.. to be fair if you KNOW that everyone is enemy, you do not get "surprised by traitors" in the end 🤷‍♂️ so It "kinda makes sense" but also takes away from human interaction.

[red owl]

20% left?

[noble verge]

There’s a big difference between “not fighting it out” and actively helping another team lmao. Nevertheless, Free Ken!

[swift grove]

yes

[pallid hemlock]

this game is comedy gold

"teaming" 🤣🤣🤣 i thought this game was hardcore? oh wait, because druid was in a state of tragic implementation for like 2 years, everyone teams on druid, so Squirrelbrain Druid Fan needs to make it bannable but ony for one game mode 🤣🤣 holy boof and goofer i actually cant imagine how this could be designed more tragically

[swift solstice]

Druid is still the worst addition to the game they should just remove it

[edgy sable]

IT'S A HARDCORE DUNGEON EXPERIENCE BUT YOU HAVE TO GET IN A LINE AND 1V1 AT A TIME OR ELSE YOU'RE BANNED! (FOR STREAM SNIPING!)

[pallid hemlock]

Remember! streaming is not optional! getting false banned is! (im permabanned in skinny petes chat for saying this 🤣)

[pine hazel]

idk why

but the solo experience of this game is really bad

playing solo if praying for no having to face a 10k hours parry master fighter or a W barb

at least with warlock

playing solo si bad asf

also I realized how easy to play are the fighter and barb

you dont need to do more than hold your w and click with that classes

idk if its a balance problem or something

at least is boring to playing a class that requires brain cells and dying to people that play that bad

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does anyone know max headshot damage bonus cap

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50% from gear is max

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so is that the cap or can i stack executioner on top

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i think they patched that?

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so i only need 30% from gear then the 20% from the perk