game-discussion

[slow salmon]

You said it yourself, the BEST players play rogue.

[long hornet]

Same as in a sneaky playstyle where you can literally go invisible. That’s as safe as it gets

[slow salmon]

So that means you're just bad comparatively

Which doesnt mean anything, again, different skill sets.

You dont get paid to play this game, don't compare yourself to others.

[woeful plume]

Getting 2 tapped = You're blocking with your face.

[long hornet]

Rogue is pretty simple. You w left click. Idk what you’re on about lol

[slow salmon]

You must not play rogue.

[long hornet]

Not much brain needed lmao

[slow salmon]

That's okay.

Stay on ranger.

It's better for you.

[long hornet]

I play rogue when I want free money

[slow salmon]

I bet.

[long hornet]

It’s a money printer class

[slow salmon]

It's obvious.

Oh yes absolutely, I can tell you're an exceptional player.

[long hornet]

That’s sweet of you. Can tell you’re a new player

But I won’t hate on you for it

[slow salmon]

Thank you. That's kind of you.

[woeful plume]

You two need a moment alone??

[slow salmon]

He plays ranger, i'm a melee lover only.

Barbarian, fighter, cleric, etc.

Delete caster warlock super boring.

[woeful plume]

I hear ya, I'm too old and slow to play magic casters.

[honest cedar]

People spend like 60k to level the workshops - and they're useless

• patch comes out and makes it cheaper...

Like, do you want your players to fight you if they find you on the streets?

[tulip arch]

they dont go out into the streets

[nova quest]

They wanted to get the gold out of the economy, is it that hard to understand

[wise turret]

Maybe dont spend 60k on a new system that you have no idea about next time ay

[karmic fox]

I viewed as a quest of sorts until I saw the 40k and stupid amount of wood the last level required

[honest cedar]

you're right, just avoid new content

• don't do anything
• You're VERY smart

[wise turret]

I waited for people like yourself to waste gold on it so i didnt have to, worked out well

[honest cedar]

yep, you're a filthy casual that gets catererd to

• feel good about yourself

[karmic fox]

Im surprised they keep all rolls, expected to only be able to hold 1/ a limited amount

[wise turret]

Casuals are the only reason games like this continue to exist, thank us

[honest cedar]

you're bottom feeders, have fun!

[karmic fox]

and "casual" in DaD is 14hrs a wk XD

[wise turret]

Youre a bottom feeder after spending all your gold on a bad new system before it got fixed, jokes on you buddy

[honest cedar]

filthy casuals worry about gold - poor people perspectives

[wise turret]

You literally just spoke about fighting the devs in the street over wasted gold, do you hear yourself lmao

[karmic fox]

Just a general game mindset some focus on skill and others economy

[main barn]

so anyone that upgraded workshops early basically get screwed??

[honest cedar]

it's still rude, learn a thing or two about pleasing player bases - not antagonizing them

[honest cedar]

yes, sir

[wise turret]

Wouldnt matter if you wernt worried about gold. Walking contradiction over here.

[main barn]

WONDERFUL

[wise turret]

go cry to your streamer idols

[karmic fox]

Only super screwed if they are past lvl 3 i guess

[honest cedar]

arguing with a person with a Tism....pointless

[wise turret]

maybe if they cry loud enough ironmace will change something like always.

[wise turret]

Your whole argument and contradictions screams mental disability but go off buddy

[honest cedar]

go eat more off the floor, casual

[lethal anchor]

w ragebait holy

[karmic fox]

tbh it wouldnt be too hard to see who had what workshop levels and just do a % refund I hope

[main barn]

i mean only maxed weaponsmith but still crazy saw it coming though

[honest cedar]

would reflect actual care for the playerbase

[lethal anchor]

no way yall falling for the ragebait this funny asf

[wise turret]

Crying streamers and wannabe's like yourself arent the playerbase lil guy

[nova quest]

Lmao in what universe

[karmic fox]

yeah really 🙁

[nova quest]

Really what, they wanted you to spend on it

[honest cedar]

Ppl proud they leech off the game and never try. Scummy, scum, scum.

[karmic fox]

I was a test subject unfortunately but i wanted to see the purple turn orange

[wise turret]

You literally joined the game mid last year, youre new here and dont even know the game

[honest cedar]

Go back to Hytale.

[tulip arch]

how is hytale being used as an insult rn?

[honest cedar]

Causals wet dream

[wise turret]

Talkin about the playerbase when you only just joined the playerbase, the jokes make themselves with you

[warped inlet]

does highroller have a pve only mode?

[fast shore]

No game is hardcore

[honest cedar]

Just randomly making sht up. I have more fame on a single toon, than you probably have hours in high-school

[lethal anchor]

greatwhite is actively farming yall and its hilarious

[mystic sky]

Warlocks are toxic. BoC prevents you from healing while warlocks can self-heal more than clerics in seconds, they have the most gear for a caster class in the game, among which the options that allow for faster move speeds. Even demons are borderline unkillable near mobs. Warlocks still heal way too much despite the numerous nerfs, for a class that can spam infinite spells. Thanks for attending to my ted talk.

[honest cedar]

Just winchy. Hes a chad

[tulip arch]

warlocks just stupid

[mystic sky]

Also it doesn't make sense that you can make a hydra and also heal off of it. They indeed are dumb

[lethal anchor]

lmaooo

[tulip arch]

his only downsides being range and "taking damage from spells" exept he insta heals the damage he takes

can just place down a hydra and heal off it. its so stupid

[karmic fox]

Somehow they managed to make a melee ability on a caster cleass strong lol

[wise turret]

Have you even finished installing the game yet?

[mystic sky]

Warlocks also get the cheapest kits because you hardly need anything to be competitive. The only thing they need to spend money on, is the basic requirement for magic healing, which is piss

[lethal anchor]

demonlock is going to be insanely OP now that dwarfs can wear helmets and get the extra 10% HDR

and js spam bolts XD

[honest cedar]

You're about as creative as dried spit. Good one.

[mystic sky]

Considering wizard has an anti-heal thing (and I think rogue?) and they barely prevent any healing for seconds, while the warlock is like NEGATES 100% healing for half the match

[wise turret]

Kinda like your name/profile pic lel

[mystic sky]

🤮 lol

[honest cedar]

Says the beard man who hides his weak chin. Rock on, soy dwarf

[lethal anchor]

yup im so excited to spam bolts with 50 MR and 40 HDR with 17 mag heal perm demon with 320 MMS

[sonic maple]

🔥

[wise turret]

Just say you cant grow facial hair lil bro

[mystic sky]

I think warlocks shouldn't be able to heal off of their hydra: forces them to be near mobs, and makes hp not an unlimited resource

[honest cedar]

When you grow up, you'll realize adults enjoy looking not like a bag of soy

[wise turret]

And crying over gold in a medieval video game yeah

[honest cedar]

Night, night, soy dwarf

[wise turret]

Sit

[lethal anchor]

10/10 falling for the ragebait

[honest cedar]

This

[wise turret]

Sure buddy

[lethal anchor]

XD holy shit

oh fuckkk XDDDD

[wise turret]

Defnitely supports netanyahu

[blazing sapphire]

🇮🇱

[obsidian cape]

netanya huh?

[minor shore]

The Artifact was promised to him 500 years ago

[wise turret]

I think when he talked about casuals he really just meant gooyim

[honest cedar]

Soy dwarf still blogging about his hurt bottom

[wise turret]

Was that 60k gold for the workshop promised to you 4000 years ago

[main barn]

will love seeing you troll this man till update hitss

[obsidian cape]

i can tell everyone chatting here is a high value man

[honest cedar]

Spend a month before season ends to make half of thst, casual

[honest cedar]

Casuals are peak emotional

[lethal anchor]

litteraly this mans been getting ragebaited and im sitting here watching till it drops lmfaooo

[main barn]

60k is a bad day of playing

[tulip arch]

im a low value entity of low age

[wise turret]

Idk man im just having a laugh while watching yt vid waiting for update

isnt that serious

[lethal anchor]

its very serious.

[obsidian cape]

we're high value men

[honest cedar]

We all believe you

[wise turret]

I really hope so

[frigid vortex]

Crazy how they fix there game with an update then keep updating and making it worse and worse

[obsidian cape]

no good sir, your value is high.

[tulip arch]

high how are you

[wise turret]

idk man did you ever fight rangers in the first few playtests?

[lethal anchor]

WE are all chuds

and fat

[wise turret]

I miss the traps being a lockpick minigame while getting blasted by arrows

[lyric swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-gif-5430850758035663288

[tulip arch]

we are ALL "(french)"

am i right?

[lethal anchor]

WE

yes WEEE

[tulip arch]

wi*

[obsidian cape]

just imagine if we all decided to go loot extract the world

we'd be drowning in bis

[lethal anchor]

tavern master why did i get a warning 🙁

[ashen willow]

a dream, a passion. gather all the DaD nerds and start raiding everything

[clear wing]

barb nerfs i am happy, wish druid would get nerfed more tho

[arctic mortar]

we will get a message when the update is up right?

[stone falcon]

Time to stop playing this game we are going in a circle

[coarse falcon]

Game still down no surprise

[dense grove]

they give timer for a reason

[viscid ginkgo]

I’m betting on 3 hours flat

[dense grove]

use ur braincells

[coarse falcon]

It said 2 hours

[broken quarry]

it said 3 hours

[dense grove]

no

[broken quarry]

still 35 min left

[edgy sable]

toot hours 🚬

[coarse falcon]

Try yours it said 2 hours when it went down

[dense grove]

no way he just said that

oh i cant send ss

[patent breach]

Is maintenance done

I gotta die to spectral knight on repeat

[dense grove]

last 30min

[obtuse carbon]

I NEED to kill players as a mummy spider

[patent breach]

Bro we all NEED this

[coarse falcon]

The announcement said 3 hours the in game timer said 1 hour 50min at midnight

[celest ravine]

game is loading up?

I'm in haha get rekd

ez gold lets goooo

[viscid ginkgo]

[celest ravine]

"cook" = make the game worse

[edgy sable]

big ez money farmer city artifact central

[celest ravine]

yuh yuh yuh

[viscid ginkgo]

Barb nerf, Dwarf buff = game better

[celest ravine]

i agree, but those arent the bigger issues lol

[edgy sable]

DWARF INVASION!!!!!!

[celest ravine]

@viscid ginkgoIf you think classes are the issue, then you don't really know what's goin on

[edgy sable]

FINALLY MEMED THEM INTO BUFFING DWARF I KNOW THEY ARE LISTENING TO ME NOW!

[celest ravine]

@edgy sable Did you hit your head or something?

[lean crown]

mad i spent my last reds on emotes instead of buying dwarf had i read the future

[heavy crater]

@DON IRONMACE CAN WE GET A FUCKING SKINPACK? I THINK 12 RED SHARDS A SKIN IS A LITTLE CRAZY STYLE.

[edgy sable]

Correct!

I am hearing a loud buzzing noise 🐝

[celest ravine]

brrr brrr brrr me too man

[edgy sable]

A buzz about this HOT 🔥 new patch

[celest ravine]

ah that must me it, thank you man

[edgy sable]

dwarves are now better at mining, can't complain!

[cyan coral]

Why must they consistently make pdr fighter stronger with indirect buffs

[edgy sable]

Ooo how did they buff up pdr fighter styler, reckless nerf ?

[fallen wraith]

more one hour

[wise turret]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[signal pawn]

please netanyahu bless us

[dense grove]

hell na

[viral frigate]

no way they cost 20 reds now

[silent crater]

whaat

[viral frigate]

for the new skin bundles

15 reds for dwarves'

L devs

[viral wedge]

NETANYAHUUU PLEAAASEEEE OPEN UP THE DUNGEOOONN!

[viral frigate]

its open

[dapper ice]

GOGOGOOGOGOGOGOGOGO

[junior harness]

so buying heart candy now is abusing?

[dusty heart]

@marble forum

[outer depot]

they killed barb

[sullen kraken]

It sells for 0

[viral frigate]

hop in arena yall

[junior harness]

ah its sells^^ lol i thought he sells it haha

[mental tulip]

Let’s party!!!

[solid swan]

where is the emberflame falchion

[green beacon]

20$

[solid swan]

i would i love falchion

but there's no option

[stoic ridge]

Wow banshee is way easier

You only need 4 stacks to go def

[gilded plover]

the new workshop changes are stupid! it now costs way more scrap!

[tacit mantle]

is quest for skins available ?

[stoic ridge]

So, banshee changes seem to be, a nerf to health, you only need 4 stacks for max protection between phases, her gas form ends a lot quicker, and there are only 10 bursts of her ability when she dies.

With the extra minute its so worth fighting her and spec knight

[strong pewter]

is it too late to migrate my account to steam?

[lethal anchor]

who decided giving dwarf 10 percent headshot reduction was a good idea? DEMON can now have 44 HDR and 50 MR yeah thats not okay

[scarlet hearth]

Eid mubarak yall

[stoic ridge]

How often you hitting a demon in the head tho, he so tall

I guess range it matters

[lethal anchor]

why wouldnt u aim for the head

[dawn jungle]

$20USD for two item skins 😂 😂

[stoic ridge]

Matchmaking failed for arena?

[edgy sable]

Get your wallet out!

[strong pewter]

i need this emberflame cleric shit doe

[honest prawn]

anyone else having anticheat issues or a fix...

[slim current]

yeah same

[loud spade]

been waiting for a sale on the purple torch for weeks. said screw it and bought it this morning, now i get back on and its on sale lol. the timing 😭 😂

[dawn jungle]

LOL

[rapid lava]

SDF w for nerfing barb but why buff sorc and why is bear atk speed so high

[analog summit]

but dwarf demon?

[hardy stump]

like year and a half late\

[versed oracle]

So we nerfing Barb into the dirt and buff sorc

[sour sun]

precisely, huge dub for us sorc mains and screw barbs

[hardy stump]

sorc got nerfs too to its strongest spells, but yes, F barb and its OHKs

[remote chasm]

Game crashing?

[versed oracle]

Just play fighter now tbh it’s js as good and I’d say sorc got buffs way outweighed the nerfs they literally just got another perk slot pretty much

Sorc just gonna get too busted and it’s gonna get nerfed too

[sour sun]

barb is just 0 skill scream and smack anyway, fighter is just as easy as barb, at least with sorc you have to somewhat aim to hit spells, cant hit spells or placing flame wall etc in a random spot = garbage sorc

[vestal raptor]

anyone having issues loading the game? just perma black screen when trying to load

[peak crane]

5th arena game...all good here sorry fam

[fluid cliff]

why does everyone always react badly with the updates. its like no matter what they do players arnt happy

[sour sun]

bcuz every update where someones fav class gets the slightest nerf they're upset, but granted in the past they have absolutely butchered this game

just the way games go nowadays, you'll always have mixed feelings on any update it is what it is ya know

[fluid cliff]

hot take the game is much funner and better. new maps, quality of life. fun dungeons

[edgy sable]

Could be evven better when they put in fall damage

[sour sun]

I can agree, I am not a fan of that damn water map tho haha

[mossy delta]

I'm liking the updates

[sour sun]

personally me too Lampex

[edgy sable]

The water map would be better if instead of water there was no water

[sour sun]

it's not the worst, its the pvp in the water that makes it buns haha

oh and the pirahanas those little mfs need to rot

[versed oracle]

Sorc is just as easy Lmao you can freeze someone and one tap almost anyone with elemental bolt

[errant pendant]

any1 help kill Wyvern for quest?

[buoyant light]

do u have problem with ls parry? it feels now like i cannot parry 80% of time

[wanton fractal]

When is next wipe?

[signal pawn]

1 week

[edgy sable]

1.1 week and a half in dog years O_O

[modest terrace]

can anyone tell me why when i get hit it just cancels my spells on sorc

[rich willow]

Rip old bandage model you will be missed ❤️

[south solstice]

Where did sdf go

[fallen pivot]

3gb for a hobbo to wipe his butt with my rags and more wep skins lmao

give us better wep skins 20 shards is a little outrageous as well

[native wyvern]

ironmace really released the skin bundles in a way so ppl who bought the earlier skins are essentially just paying for 1 skin for the cost of 8 shards (will be 12 later once the sale ends)

[gritty stone]

i just read the newest patch, i wanted to highlight in an edited pic for my friend which is great and which is not. and i am hyped about every single thing. this is soooo great, best day of my dark and darker life

[severe ridge]

Rework barb, make every skill useless so we have to run dead perks again

[gritty stone]

idc about barb actually, they run me down every single time without barrier

[severe ridge]

L change, no usuable spell left on barb we rework barb give them nice stuff and then gut all of it. even achilles thats crazy

Now im force to play bardiche every game...

[deft lintel]

The only difference is you have to commit now when using Achilles or reckless

[severe ridge]

Barb already have a monotone playstyle they made it even worse now, warmaul achilles gone, reckless gone nobody in their right mind will run that

[autumn hornet]

didnt they say end of april?

[sour sun]

lmao just say you can only win by playing barb bro no ones gonna blame you

[fair yacht]

in the last 3 seasons reckless has gone from 90%-->50%. maybe by next year it will give the enemy armor when you hit them

if you give reckless a duration then remove its debuff???

halberd fighter was already better than barb in every way. RIP barb 3/20/2026

[broken quarry]

i laughed, thank you

[severe ridge]

Bro i played warmaul and shield bbarb to create space for my team now, i HAVE to play bardiche headshot dmg bonus to be usefull thanks Paul!

only 1 viable build for barb is this what you wanted???

[safe prawn]

is it me or the treasure hoard quest is not working ?

[tawdry canopy]

do i lose items in arena?

[latent yew]

With such low hp scaling now ignoring armor almost one shots now you just have to build a tiny bit of armor pen like every other class to do your true damage one tap boo hoo

[tawdry canopy]

why is there no information on arena in the game?

[silver void]

I was finally able to finish Weaponsmith's Craftsman's Fruit quest.

HE GIVES ME A FUCKING FLUTE.

[lost osprey]

found Life after death in a pile with 5,5% debuff and 4 Phys Power, what is it worth ?

[atomic cove]

That's a sign

[silver void]

No... I don't wanna play Bard... PLEASE.

[pulsar vine]

hi

guys

my game won't run in this new update and idk why

it said content file locked

and download failed

[maiden prism]

Tf is there a druid nerd but where is the cleric nerf and ranger...Druid was ass before and cleric was so much better and druid gets another heal nerf wtf

[feral karma]

What's on the flute?

[silver void]

12.4 armour pen.

@feral karma ^^

[feral karma]

That's atleast a coin chest.

[silver void]

Well shit I guess I'll get a coin chest.

LOOK MAN, I have no clue how to price anything PROPERLY.

[feral karma]

Riposte flute is popular build right now.

[feral karma]

When I feel that way I just start blindly vendoring everything.

then I also sell my gold storage.

👍

[silver void]

Whenever I look in the market to calculate a fair price for my thing? It takes like 5 days for it to sell.

I ain't gonna wait 5 days for a single item to sell goddamnit! I have other shit to sell!

[safe prawn]

15 interactions with treasure hoard is insane, you have to be the 1st to interact with it and it only count 1 by pile even if do a full pile (9 interactions), please change this

[feral karma]

undercut by 20%.

Easy sells.

or get a fence.

[silver void]

Fence?

[feral karma]

It would be nice.

[feral karma]

Yes, a person who sells your items for you and takes a cut.

[silver void]

Hmm! Interesting!

[feral karma]

[paper galleon]

Havent checked the market in a couple days. why've the Troll pelt & Spec Fab price dropped to like 20-30% of what they used to be?

[silver void]

Inflation probably?

I'd also think people wanting to get it sold would be selling it lower and lower, up until it just starts selling lower.

[split light]

just sells skins if you want to make money, crazy price tag on amber shit lol

[paper galleon]

fair. but it still feels insane. it'd been bouncing between 20-30k for like 2 weeks or something. then all of a sudden it drops to 10k now.
Idk if i'd chalk it up to that. But mby

[silver void]

Hmm.. maybe someone stockpiled them and flooded the market?

[paper galleon]

Very well could be avtually

[silver void]

Then again..

Why don't they just use that much pelt themselves..?

[split light]

its going doan every season less usefull to stock money when season going to end

[silver void]

As the season goes on yes.

[mortal wadi]

anyone else 30 fps only in arena?

[polar dew]

Hi

[safe prawn]

how ?

[normal tulip]

glaciate doin magical damage now is crazy !

[gusty steeple]

there is when you select arena it tells you what you can bring in and what you keep

[patent breach]

Is dark and darker going to become great again

[silver bloom]

when monk releases

[paper galleon]

lmao. just got scammed outta 3 spec bags xd
Idk why i put trust into strangers xd

[obtuse agate]

Extremely laggy gameplay on USEast

[clear pendant]

finally good balancing patches, thanks sdf for leaving i will spend more money in skins now

[junior harness]

the match is currently in progress i cant reconnect anyone else?

[analog summit]

maybe force quit then reopen the game

[obtuse agate]

Just died to rollback lag USEast

[quick glade]

me too

[hollow heath]

me too

[keen palm]

me too

[hollow heath]

sooo

[quick glade]

servers dead?

[lament kite]

wait holy shit good changes which didnt cause half the chat to leave game again or explode?

[hollow heath]

servers dead?

[ruby ore]

How we feel about the changes

[next yew]

all that was needed was for SDF to stop cooking

[quick glade]

good for sorc that he dont need to use perkslot for merging now

[hollow heath]

i mean the changes are nice to be honest, but the gold coin bags being smaller again is a pity

[ruby ore]

Solid changed for sorc freeing up a perk slot

[quick glade]

true

[hollow heath]

that's true (as a sorc and barb main)

[lament kite]

he single handedly made me believe as a fellow programmer that i should not involve in design unless im fully taking up the role of design

[junior harness]

yeah servers dead right?

[quick glade]

and form changes now you can tank banshe's 3rd scream on normals as fighter

[next yew]

seems like it

[obtuse agate]

This looks like an internet peering issue actually, I can't seem to run a bandwidth speedtest either

[subtle goblet]

internet down worldwide

?

[fleet basin]

Does spectral cloth still drop in normals??

[quick glade]

[*] servers

[minor stag]

whats up with the crazy lag?

[cyan latch]

might only be something in your region since its working fine for me, same as the game. where you from?

[quick glade]

ye 10% chances

[split light]

I was just kidding brother feel like price tag is just insane sounds like riot games rich and richer ^^, dont get me wrong I pay for skins but 10£ a skin i dont know

[quick glade]

in EU servers dont work

[feral karma]

Fix shields crazy suggestion I know.

[junior harness]

well be the time now my gear is gone, cant reconnect

[mild rapids]

barb is gone

[uneven inlet]

waaaah my barbarian doesn’t get 75 hp from my q ability

waaaah i have to use my reckless strategically

[quick glade]

servers are working!!

[junior harness]

they are not

[meager forge]

Ive been stuck on "Match currently ijn progress, please wait while we reconnect" after exiting a match through blue for 2 hours now.
Anyone know how to fix?

[somber ruin]

is my gear gone after the server crash?

[subtle reef]

thoughts on multi classing for like last 2 weeks of wipe could be fun imo i never really hated it

[junior harness]

i am pretty sure gear will be gone

also i had gear and loot and was about to exit, now i cant reconnect, so sure dead

when is season end?

[round heart]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1118567043441102848/1484493576988528640/image.png?ex=69be6de1&is=69bd1c61&hm=6339948a58a5b2324442ead9485ca773496d9fc40a4ebb25926fb9f5ea9cbd15&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1384&height=864
Got server dead and have been waitin for 30min

[timber brook]

what did they dooooo???? Bandages look like wet toilet paper

[quick glade]

i had this for a 15 mins but now i can play

[quick glade]

nope i think i got it back

[junior harness]

I GOT MY GEAR, which is tarted with but not my inventory of my looted items

[next yew]

are servers back?

[quick glade]

some of them yes like eu central

[meager forge]

Exciting, i had a fulgor + pestilence and full +3+3 maxed legendary bis equipped. hope i keep it 😄

[quick glade]

good luck brother

[meager forge]

Nice, its there!

[next yew]

Gear still there lets go

[tacit tangle]

This game is going to be crap until we get separate ques for arena trios and everyone else. The sweaty tryhards ruin the game.

[feral karma]

Make some friends, it's super easy. 🙂

I make a ton of friends to play with while healing in arena.

[latent yew]

They work fine??

[dark horizon]

the all point off arena is to have a good team to grind with. ur not suppose to grind solo

[opaque spear]

Servers cooked?

[muted viper]

EW

[feral karma]

No they don't.

[feral prism]

CURRENT GLITCH FOR PROJECTILE DMG RESIST. JUST TESTED. 100 percent resistance to magic/ranged attacks when they hit your arms. Squire guy just showed me. Almost 0 dmg to his arms.

[latent yew]

Look up more they do LOL

[marsh pawn]

Was excited to try new workshop, saw that we still require shit ton of wood and gold to lvl up, i'm good.

[subtle goblet]

whos squire guy?

[lyric delta]

wait interacting with a game requires wait .... playing it?

[feral karma]

I don't need to look anywhere, I play this game a lot. Shields don't always work, and you can literally have players clip through your shield to hit you.

You can even have thrust come through the center shield and hit you.

[meager forge]

Thats desync.

[plain egret]

all my bandages look dirty now add some bleach to dungeon. maybe make the blue bands cleaner.

[feral karma]

Disagree.

[meager forge]

disagree all u want, thats what it is ;p

[feral karma]

Your opinion doesn't make it a fact.

[meager forge]

its not my opinion, it is just fact.

[reef onyx]

Yes but if your spacing is right it won't

[feral karma]

Go and test it.

Stand totally still, have a rogue lean into you and stab down.

He stabs you .

It's not rocket science.

[meager forge]

im not gonna argue with you. Alæready tested throoughly. Its desync.

What ure describing with the rogue is literally just a rogue not touching ur shield.

[feral karma]

Because he is clipping through it?

Then don't, I didn't ping you. 🙂

[uneven comet]

Take arena out the game

[subtle goblet]

why?

[feral prism]

A guy. In squire.

[subtle goblet]

oh lol

[warm sun]

Is this channel just a cesspool of redditors competing to be as annoying as possible?

[craggy hemlock]

lol... so question...

if I exit game in pve mode not thinking...

Do I lose all my gear on my guy? XDDD

like is goblin going to snag that shit for me or am I fucked lmao

[nova grove]

Might be in express goblin but probably gone yeah

[craggy hemlock]

xD what a terrible way to lose an entire arena kit if that's the case lmaooo

I was testing out sorc changes

[nova grove]

Cause the game usually asks if you wanna forfeit your gear

[craggy hemlock]

and like not even thinking

[maiden prism]

This druid nerf is so dump

[craggy hemlock]

just closed out

yea they really pushing healer druid into a hole like are they that op right now??

I feel like I see so few healer druids in general

[subtle goblet]

my friend did that and got all the stuff he was wearing back but not the meds in his inv so if you had good meds like a TB etc that will be gone but you're gear SHOULD come back

[craggy hemlock]

from streamers perspectives

Ok nice ty!

I had no meds lmao

[subtle goblet]

again keyword is SHOULD cause ironmace and spaghetti

hopefully it still does

[maiden prism]

No...My question is where tf is the cleric nerf...U cant play hybrid druid anymore...Its so dump heal only works with lifebloom now or u go full shapeshit

Druid nerf who was bad before...But no fucking ranger and/or cleric nerf

[nova grove]

Does anyone know a decent squire bard setup, I’ve asked the bard chat a few times and they lowkey ignore me or just say buy gear

[feral prism]

Make lifebloom great again

[patent breach]

Just use whatever you like it's squire gear

You'll only have to use it for as long as you want to since it's so easy to get money to buy gear

[maiden prism]

Right now u have to play with lifebloom to even heal a bit...And then u are a heal bot, also lifebloom is not that good too

[subtle heart]

They’re giving out red stone shards like they cost them money 😂

[frail light]

whats a good solo class/build for me to learn as a relatively bad player to try get some good pvp?

[feral prism]

Heal bot funny. Add back in please.

[quick glade]

hi guys have you any perk and songs build for bard?

[pliant valley]

That's bc everyone is getting tired of doing the work for someone else...

If players insist on not using their brain to figure things out themselves, then do the rest of everyone else a favor and just go google it instead of asking people in discord to do the work for you.

[frail light]

theres fuck all content for dark and darker on S8 aside from people running 100k kits

[uneven comet]

Empties the dungeon. The primary game loop

[frail light]

just the RMT content creators

[indigo wagon]

20 bucks for an arming sword skin.. really guys?? lol @ironmace

almost same price as ur game for a sword skin be foreal fellas

shit is turning into d4 sadly

[frail light]

you dont have to buy it lad

[indigo wagon]

i support this game more than anyone. dont bootlick. thats overpriced.

lad

[frail light]

its overpriced sure, but again, you dont have to buy it

[indigo wagon]

im also allowed to come in here and complain about the price

why dont u buy it for me since u got so much money

[frail light]

i never said you wasnt! and i dont have lots of money, i just dont buy skins

unless its csgo

then i buy skins

[topaz lintel]

oof

[indigo wagon]

u did nothing for this conversatino at all

please stop typing to me

[warm kraken]

holy babyrage

[indigo wagon]

im discussing a real issue here. they cant think its ok to charge ppl like that. its absurd. and selling "seasonal packs" with shared stash too.. kinda wack

[frail light]

they arent charging you anything.... if you dont buy it

[indigo wagon]

wow u are a dork

i want to buy. price too high. me dont buy.

are u mentally deficent

[frail light]

i mean

thats logical

[indigo wagon]

quit pocket watching me let me complain in peace

[topaz lintel]

lol

[snow magnet]

question: why interact with pile quest on treasurer, works only on first interact, and doesnt count for teammates?
why its so ass?

so by playing with duo, i need to do 30 games of interacting with piles

[frail light]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-a-vision-zoolander-derek-ben-stiller-center-for-ants-gif-6014453084322237241

[indigo wagon]

@snow magnet you dont have to interact with piles.

you dont have to do any quests

[snow magnet]

i have to do 😡

[indigo wagon]

no u dont just dont do it

[snow magnet]

i want the chest xd

[indigo wagon]

like bert said

[frail light]

hey, atleast his is free

[indigo wagon]

it costs time

chests arent free either

[rapid hound]

How much is the amber weapons bundle?

[indigo wagon]

20$

[frail light]

oh no not the whole time is money friend shite

[indigo wagon]

dont complain tho bert is on their payroll

[rapid hound]

20 for the bundle or?

[indigo wagon]

15$ PER sword lol

[rapid hound]

There was a new bundle added

[frail light]

with this logic, just dont play the game, just RMT from a chinese gold seller

[rapid hound]

For all the weapon skins

[frail light]

easy peasy

[indigo wagon]

20 redstone for 2 swords

[rapid hound]

Damn

[indigo wagon]

very fair price for bert hes getting it for us

[frail light]

skins that hold 0 real life value in my eyes are pointless anyway

[daring epoch]

No zwei skin...these guys don't want money huh

[indigo wagon]

u get no maidens bert

[topaz lintel]

wait did the game wipe

[indigo wagon]

yes @topaz lintel

[wary anvil]

Make the arming sword specifically 30$

[topaz lintel]

oooh

[frail light]

the game did not wipe lol

[topaz lintel]

wait

huh

[indigo wagon]

@wary anvil lol

[frail light]

it wiped like a month and a bit ago

[topaz lintel]

oh

[wary anvil]

I hope they go the PoE route with their cosmetics, if it’s keeping the lights on and doors open, fuck it, 40$

[indigo wagon]

why did they change bandys...

can they sit still

@wary anvil hmmm

[frail light]

PoE i think is doing it right

[indigo wagon]

im cool with it as welll if they truly need it

if they needed it that bad i would deadass donate tho

dont tax me for a sword skin

[wary anvil]

It’s that or they charge you a monthly fee, pick one. Games don’t usually get to give you 1-10k hours with no cost on their end. Best 30$ you spent

[topaz lintel]

you gotta buy it first to be taxed on it

😄

[wary anvil]

I think they should up them to bluestone shards later when the next skin series comes out

[frail light]

yeah all of PoE's payments are within the stash addons, which are huge and a very good way to price things

[indigo wagon]

@wary anvil i agree

[wary anvil]

That would be a decent middle ground

[indigo wagon]

@wary anvil dnd is the best bang for ur buck in gaming

[wary anvil]

Gives exclusivity for a bit, then allows a slow way to acquire without pay

[boreal ledge]

Anyone else getting slideshows occasional games since the patch? Find a solution?

[wary anvil]

Report bug @boreal ledge and have a recording

Devs love that shit

[boreal ledge]

Thanks will do, unplayable 🙁

[wary anvil]

Include system specs

Use Speccy to get them if you need

[foggy rock]

well the workshop is WORSE lol

why do you want me to scrop 30 items to upgrade ONE item lol

[frail light]

im ngl, i find the workshop to be quite pointless when market exists. Id understand it more in an SSF league

[subtle goblet]

it was used to deflate the inflated market but then it cost too much so now they are trying to inflate the market lol

That dupe cooked things so hard market wise

[frail light]

all workshop does is undervalues rare components and holds all value in scrap

like ultimate gems

[topaz lintel]

i havent used it once. its just a money sink

[pliant valley]

the game is killing itself with greed

[frail light]

yeah like i could scrap a purple, and get 150 gold for the scrap, or i could just list it for 200 gold and insta sell

[topaz lintel]

i just vendor it for 50 instead

[frail light]

yeah thats fair, im down bad

found a wanderlight lantern 2 days ago and sold for 25k and that money is now gone, perks of being shit at the game and shit at making a build

[pliant valley]

should just start trolling noobs so they decide they hate the game and don't come back, LUL

[frail light]

tbh i should probably stop trying to solo pvp on bard 😂 just getting 2 tapped by pdr fighters and barbs

or 2 tapped by rangers

[topaz lintel]

damn good find on the lantern tho. just go squire runs over and over you will make money fast and then you get no gear fear

[pliant valley]

run HR over n over, and lose ur gear fear... u get more along the way each time

plus u learn the mobs on hardest diff

[frail light]

yeah ngl i didnt even realise how much it was, i remember them costing like 3k lol. i wasnt even being careful haha

[topaz lintel]

tbh just ratting and looting in HR is very good for money

[frail light]

yeah i only play HR

just rapier parry to victory on all PVM

[pliant valley]

no point in ratting, u should not avoid pvp, ur excluding urself from practice

[frail light]

with rapier parry added, im pretty sure bard is now the strongest pvm class with shriek

[topaz lintel]

you can force pvp when you want, but if your broke af like this guy then you should rat

[pliant valley]

=p

[frail light]

issue is, its pointless me trying to fight unique geared players on a bard when im in half squire half piss

[pliant valley]

yes, u can run HR maelstrom and get over 2k gold and not even touch a mob

[topaz lintel]

you know what the problem is, yet like a true chad, you do it over and over every game 😄

respek

[frail light]

lel, i usually skulk the outskirts for like 2 games, then build a kit and go central for pvp, die, rinse, repeat

actually fought a barb yesterday that had probably a 30k kit on and i had him down to 2 rapier hits left before he Bardiched my head top off

probably the closest ive got this wipe to a good geared player

[topaz lintel]

would have been a nice kill but against geared barb you really need to finess that play

[frail light]

yeah i missed the parry on the last bardiche swing

[topaz lintel]

oof

do you bring utility?

helps alot

[frail light]

not really no, bard isues only having 2 utility slots

[topaz lintel]

oh yeah thats true

[frail light]

maybe i learn "ANGRY DWARF FELLING AXE BARB"

sounds fun 😂

[topaz lintel]

lmao

[frail light]

the main thing is we have fun right. RIGHT?

[steel valley]

@zinc sparrow hello consider this case:
I find an item on the market -> I don't know whether a roll is good -> I hold ALT over the item and it shows me a range of possible stat roll
great qol, cheers

[frail light]

even PoE doesnt have that, but would be a nice QoL

[steel valley]

are you sure PoE doesn't have that?

[zealous wing]

Maaan so happy about the giga sorc buffs but this was the time to give them zwei and it didn’t happen 😦

[frail light]

oh wait they do now

my bad

[neat breach]

You want me to buy a cleric bundle? Make it for items I use on my cleric in example, Cerm staff. Better yet make off-hand cleric healing item like crystal ball for warlock.

[frail light]

surely the cleric should be so used to reading he should read a spellbook in 1 hand

[latent yew]

Headshot perk doesn’t go over dmg cap so they did nerf them lol

[warm sun]

just saw a guy on trading post that got a 0% roll on his unique cape

[tidal falcon]

Is there legendary eq enabled on arena?

[honest sphinx]

.

[pine kraken]

Holy cow these new bundles are hot garbage

[pliant valley]

^

[charred veldt]

I feel they should increase the scrapable amount with the workshop levels

[pliant valley]

everything moving forward will be to make the grind harder for the sweats with no jobs

[charred veldt]

And they said something about enhancing preserving the stat

Does that mean the first stat of a legendary goes to the unique?

[pliant valley]

prices will increase to make up for less purchases

[charred veldt]

Or it's random?

[subtle goblet]

you save 4$ lol

[charred veldt]

Bundle?

They added more?

What weapons

[craggy hemlock]

random

[pliant valley]

i knew it was going to be a waste of time and resources

[charred veldt]

Yeah, imagine just having a BIS bardiche and then...

Wait...

Pause

[pliant valley]

workshop is just busy work for the season

[charred veldt]

If you have a BIS bardiche one of the modifiers will turn into the unique roll

even gemmed sh!t 🤔

imagine you got 4 good rolls

all with gems

enhance to unique 🤔

What?

I meant enhancing not rebuilding

legendary to unique

it's still random?

[pliant valley]

busy work

[charred veldt]

I read now it just adds something extra

[hardy nimbus]

Read the patchnotes. Legendary to unique is bugged atm.

#📢announcements message

[charred veldt]

oh

[pliant valley]

somebody call Orkin man, this game always has bugs, LUL

maybe Geek Squad can come fix DaD for IM

well, i'm off to the dungeons to give some noobs a hard time, i mean a good experience

[charred veldt]

Hey, at the very least

The patch was more W than L

With SDF gone

[low tendon]

i keep lagging my head off whenever i enter a dungeon i cant even pull out a weapon

[balmy oyster]

YOU GUYS CANT CODE A FUCKING GAME. HOW HAVE YOU NOT FIGURED OUT HIT BOXES IN YEARS. I LOVE WATCHING MY TEAMATE SWING THROUGH A PERSON MULTIPLE TIMES

[pliant valley]

make sure u r hardlined to avoid lag. also u can set ur video quality to low settings, also u can play windowed to get better fps and u can also set rendering distance to 50 or so to help with fps

[pliant valley]

Caps isn't going to make them pay attention to u here.

[balmy oyster]

nah but now its in the ether.

[pliant valley]

lol

[maiden prism]

If my friend get out with my loot I get it right?

[pliant valley]

would be great if devs actually communicated in their discord, instead of having mods assume or just stating what they want to say in a vlog

[low tendon]

its feels like network lag

[fervent anvil]

Hitboxes feel fine to me. You mightve just had some desync

[pliant valley]

yes

[balmy oyster]

all 3 of us? plus the other 6 people in tavern bar?

[balmy oyster]

^

[fervent anvil]

Yes. Desync is a thing that can effect anyone

[low tendon]

my internet works fine for everything else but the second i dare to enter a lobby i cant even equip anything and when i doit just keeps my fist animation and does nothing

[balmy oyster]

Then they should pay for better servers with these 80$ fucking skin rip-offs their doing

[pliant valley]

lag has been an issue on here for a couple weeks now

the servers aren't exactly stable

[fervent anvil]

Theres nothing in game that costs that much lol

[balmy oyster]

sorry, 200$ to get the same skin on different weapons

same difference

[pliant valley]

$80 may be exaggerated but eveything is way over priced

[balmy oyster]

i under priced it.

[pliant valley]

=p

[fervent anvil]

Not really. With the bundles being added now i think stuff is priced fine

[pliant valley]

My wife and I are laughing at $20 on sale for two sword skins that do nothing but appearance

[balmy oyster]

EXACTLY

[pliant valley]

STFU Bootlicker

[fervent anvil]

If you think the skins are overprices. Dont buy them. I think they are priced fine so ive bought ones i plan on using alot

[pliant valley]

Lizard skin that u cannot wear a hat with or u lose the race ability.... cmon, wtf

Ur just being obtuse, welcome to the block list

[fervent anvil]

And again. If you dont think its worth it. Thrn dont but it

[subtle goblet]

he can voice his opinion on the price of things without having to buy them, just like you can when you do buy them

[still cypress]

I hope this spell merge change means that rogue can get traps & locks perk for free too. I know everyone hates on rogue out of jealousy or some kind of insecurity, but it would be a good change

[pliant valley]

rogue does need some luv imo

i think some more poisoning skils would be good

[brave mango]

remove your internet acccess

rn

[pliant valley]

LUL

maybe a short sword skill for rogue too

[subtle goblet]

short sword mastery when

[fresh kiln]

Since today i got mini stutter/lags while ingame. anyone else?

[pliant valley]

falchion boosted stats for rogue

[plain fox]

Anyone who can help give me the perfect build for PDR rogue on arenas?

[velvet dirge]

LOST 20 games in arena one after one each one of them i have the highest damage and kills in my team is it me or is it my teams

[pliant valley]

[pliant valley]

r u using random teams?

[velvet dirge]

yes

[pliant valley]

need to have communication for pvp to be successful

[velvet dirge]

but is it normal to lose 20 games bro my rating is now 500 or some shit

[night folio]

no that is not normal lol that might be the lowest rating ive seen

[pliant valley]

random ppl don't mix well in pvp. almost always one will be better and then blame the rest of the team

^

^

^

ppl need to stand together for what u want

[subtle goblet]

gamers are about as loyal as rats at the bottom of a sinking ship...well a lot anyway

[pliant valley]

^ agreed

[fervent anvil]

If each skin was actually like 20-30 eqxh then i would complain. A weapon skin for 12 is completely fine to me

[pliant valley]

but ppl can change

[subtle goblet]

there is a reason every game has micro-transactions these days, because the very people complaining about it allowed it to happen

by buying stupid things for no reason other than to brag about it lmao

[pliant valley]

the problem is that there has been so much outcry muffled by bootlickers shelling out money, they got tired and left

idky they think selling over priced things to the few that will pay it, is better than selling reasonably priced items that everyone will purchase

[fervent anvil]

If you think thats what the max price should be. Then dont buy the current pack. Im fine with thr price of the packs so i have no reason to complain about them

[lilac cloud]

If it's not pay to win (which it's not) idk what you're crying about

Why don't you try running a business pleb

[pliant valley]

don't start that bs again. skins that give stats r p2w, even if some of them give negative stats

plus dwarves being a different height and hitbox

[subtle goblet]

you must have missed the "keep your customers happy" part of the seminar

[pliant valley]

^ LUL

[lilac cloud]

There are much more successful games with way more expensive skins so I don't think that's the issue champ

[subtle goblet]

yeah there is, those games are successful

[pliant valley]

we're not comparing other games, we're talking about this one

[tame oxide]

You don't need to be a cook to know that the food is shit

[lilac cloud]

Crying about 12 dollar skins is so funny

[subtle goblet]

not having a good point to comeback with is funnier

[daring epoch]

No Zwei no buy

[lilac cloud]

Already did

[pliant valley]

right, insults instead of results

[subtle goblet]

Maybe in your head...10 minutes ago

[lilac cloud]

You don't like the price of a skin that isn't p2w, don't buy the skin. Theres not really any other point to it

Buyable class would be bad, I agree with that

[tame oxide]

Shaming all the suckers that buy them is the right thing to do
Same as in WoW. You got a store mount, transmog etc on? Out of the raid/dungeon/whatever

[subtle goblet]

"but but they are keeping the game alive" lol

[craggy hemlock]

Dear Iron Mace - IF LIGHTNING STORM DOESN'T CAST DON'T PUT IT ON FUCKING COOL DOWN

Thanks.

[pliant valley]

barely with a fraction of the playerbase

[subtle goblet]

i was quoting a classic bootlicker line

[pliant valley]

Lol

[tame oxide]

Didn't work in the end. Whales gonna whale.
You can only try, the outcome isn't something you can affect

[subtle goblet]

they will cope as much as they want because thats all they have between them and their very thin veil of lies they have built up to not see the truth of things

it is what it is

sadly

[pliant valley]

next best thing is to make the game as unejoybale to the whales as possible

just run squire gear all the time

give them nothing to loot

[subtle goblet]

it mostly ends in one group leaving the game for good

[pliant valley]

yea

[subtle goblet]

either the whales first or the people sick of the rmting/whaling

[flat granite]

We talking about the skins rn?

[subtle goblet]

because they just can't compete with card swipers

[lilac cloud]

Is there some crazy p2w skins I missed? How are you talking about "whaling" with cosmetics

[pliant valley]

i think walking away counts as loss towards swipers bc then they have spent all the money and have no one to show off on

[gloomy crescent]

Anyone experience crazy lag in arena where you can't do anything and keep rubber banding and then next game everything is fine?

[subtle goblet]

in the end yes this happens but overall the game suffers which sucks for the non-swiping people

[lilac cloud]

I feel like you are mixing up this game with diablo or gacha games or something

[pliant valley]

gege we're not specifically talking about DaD rn, we're just generally talking about gaming industries and player base

[lilac cloud]

Fair enough

[subtle goblet]

Terry and Sdf both worked at Nexon for years, a company notorious for gatcha style games. You don't think they learned how to milk their playerbase while also playing PR? Come on now

[pliant valley]

i know it's going to be a great day and i'll be out on my motorcycle later instead of wasting time in DaD LUL

[subtle goblet]

They said they would never do this or that but they have backtracked on a lot of principles to get where they are now

anyway i'm done with this, glhf lads and ladies

[lilac cloud]

I mean if it heads that direction I'll stop playing. I was just saying I don't mind games that monetize through cosmetics. I think stuff like dota does a good job. They make lots of money to develop game but people can play for free

[sharp bramble]

NERF HEALING!!!!!

[subtle goblet]

Dota also has a playerbase that is huge, they didn't start that way with Dota 1

this is a new company trying to build trust

You don't build trust by trying to milk the playerbase BEFORE your game/company has garnered a good reputation over years and years

Even blizzard took a long time to milk their playerbase and they are a much larger company and been around for years

and ever since they started that crusade the reputation of blizzard has gone down

[pliant valley]

^

[zealous wing]

Gotta remember up until now we’ve been supporting while they has major legal expenses, now they’ve won that, and gotten reimbursed and they up the prices

[spiral totem]

anyone know what merchants gonna give emots this season?

[lilac cloud]

I think it's worse there because of the nature of that game (mmo), and it's also pretty much full p2w with gold token right? I like how counterstrike and dota do it. But if your guys continuous outcry stops DND from adding actual p2w, God bless you

[untold void]

does pve treasure piles drop artifacts or bags?

[fallen vine]

does anyone know how the regional separation works for the warlord tournament? Are you hard region locked to your native region or do you get to choose which region you would like to participate in?

[spiral totem]

interesting point, I do think $20 USD for a skin is way too much...

[neat breach]

Right, things should have become cheaper, and the "love" for the players seems absent. They cater to a very small audience not the overall fanbase.

[sharp bramble]

BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!!

[neat breach]

"We have a new balance team"
"Balance will become better and less bias"
Yet here we are, with the same broken classes that have always existed.

[pliant valley]

I think the problem is, and don't take this as insult, that the younger generation don't have the experience of knowing what a full game release at a set base price is.
Games used to be released completed with everything in them. Then the dev teams would move on to other projects, and we would buy new games for us to enjoy new/more content. Now we are paying to be testers on EA games and paying for DLC and what nots and just constantly paying now.

[neat breach]

Great observation and point.

[untold void]

anyone know pleases?

[subtle goblet]

bags yes i think? artifacts no

[neat breach]

I believe PVE cannot drop above purple loot

[untold void]

oh ok im just wonderting why people are so ravenous for the pile

[pliant valley]

pve is filled with new players that have nothing, they're thirsty

[zealous wing]

100% we’ve sat here through the building testing process for going on 4 years

[storm helm]

Are they forcing you to buy the skin? We're the new maps not free? How are they supposed to fund a game by catering to yalls feelings and opinions. Yall cry and then buy all the skins

[pliant valley]

i go into pve i loot practically nothing

[neat breach]

PVE is for questing

[untold void]

i see some proper sweat in pve with bloodthirsts full gold

[still flicker]

I bought the wrong EmberFlame bundel. Can I like get a swap?

for a different bundle of equal value

Or two bundels of equal value

[pliant valley]

the game should be funded by them before release. the way it used to be done.

[vagrant zinc]

Hello I'm RadGigaChad I would like to request toggle crouch please thank you

[pliant valley]

it didn't used to be the responsibility of the player to fund a game along the process of creating it

[storm helm]

Games have always been funded by investors what do you mean lmao you have to have investors before anything people willing to back it

[spiral totem]

i cant beat em... so I wanna join em. can one of you give tell me how to build a rogue land mine, 3 tap super geared players in 3 seconds build please

[storm helm]

Investors have to make something in return with out investors the game dies no money funding it

[neat breach]

Why should maps cost money? I am confused by your comment, simply jabbing at others isn't of benefit. We aren't crying, we are stating real observations and stances on what we want the game to be, we all have the right to voice our opinion. Even you, Mr. Aggitator

[storm helm]

I never said maps should cost money

[sharp bramble]

BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!! BALANCE THE GAME!!!

[pliant valley]

rewind the clock 30 yrs ago. yes there has always been investors, but businesses and companies used to invest into the game creation and release finished games that were bought by the customer to pay off the investments and make profit for the game (If it was good enough)

[subtle goblet]

i haven't spent one more dollar on the game since buying the HTL edition and getting shafted for it. What has loyalty given me? nothing so why do they deserve more money when they haven't made the game they have promised for years now? Talent trees? Gathering hall cancelled? 3 years for a simple quiver? I'll give them more money when they actually come good on their promises not before in the hope they come good on said promises

If you make a good game E.G. Elden Ring the money will come

if you make promises and don't follow through on them don't expect growth

[storm helm]

There not asking for more money lmao buying things are an option

[subtle goblet]

thats business 101

[pliant valley]

ur arguing that they need money to fund the game

[storm helm]

Eldin ring is a massive title way more money flowing through it even before release way more marketing

[midnight wind]

wheeree do i find obsidian

[subtle goblet]

If they spent the time spent on those cosmetics on the game the actual game would be really really fun, equals more people playing the game because people can recommend the game to friends and more people buy the game

[flat granite]

Idk, ive gotten approx 2k hours out of the game and see myself getting 2k more. I can toss em a few bucks every now and again

[still wyvern]

after todays update i have a felling im playing on 60hz monitor, i have 360hz, anyone notice some stutters?

yesterday was all good

[subtle goblet]

they also built that trust in being a good company over years and years

Fromsoftware wasn't popular overnight, they built trust up over years building amazing games and they still haven't tried to do anything close to what ironmace has done with their business model

my point is you make a great game the money will come

the more time spent on cosmetics is less time spent on the actual game

[royal lava]

can someone clear this up plz. does will affect rouge poison dmg?

[zealous wing]

They spent the whole wipe making skins for specific weapons so they could cash in to offer those same skins, in a bundle with they new ones they released

[pliant valley]

i would think not

[storm helm]

The whole office didnt work on the cosmetics lol my point is they have to generate revenue some how servers aren't free devs don't work for free

[rapid vapor]

That's not true

Not that my opinion matters but I think IM is doing relatively well with microtransactions. But the weapon skins are just way overpriced. I don't blame them for having cosmetic mtx in a paid game, especially with the financial drama they had to deal with. But pricing your customers out of cosmetics is a valid criticism and not a very good idea imo

[zealous wing]

Someone needs to count the skin release amount with the actual skill/perk change amount

[inland agate]

The great barb nerf

[pliant valley]

i can kinda agree with that for the most part. but i still think games should be privately funded by the devs and that games should be released fully finished. Then have players buy the game and ingame cosmetics

[subtle goblet]

The question is do you count when they tried to paywall bard/warlock or what point do we start the slippery slope

[rapid vapor]

On the one hand I'm not wild about early access in general but on the other I can recognize it allows small companies and individual people to make games that otherwise wouldn't exist

[zealous wing]

Yea I count that, but my point is up until now they’ve been the “little guy” and I’m willing to support them through their hard time. That ship has sailed

[pliant valley]

and as long as games are in EA they will be able to manipulate items or characters to force change, which will most likely result in buying something.

it just takes time

[subtle goblet]

I saw through the lies early on so i haven't been willing to give them more until they prove themselves worthy of it to me personally

They touted themselves as being different to other greedy companies, prove it

[pliant valley]

i gave them a kicker when i bought legendary status

[flat granite]

Great take. Well said and level-headed

Idk if id say "way" overpriced, but to each their own. I personally just dont care very much about the price of something that is purely cosmetic. Ive seen monetization thats more generous, ive seen monetization thats more predatory.

[subtle goblet]

I bought HTL edition and got "test servers" that no one used, woopeee lol

[pliant valley]

i used the test server a little bit to practice bosses uninterupted

[rapid vapor]

As a comparison Dead by Daylight just released a new skin for a killer that's an entire gender swap with unique sounds, music, and a mori for $18. So that's kind of what I'm comparing these to

[fervent anvil]

Theres cs glove skins priced at 200

[balmy dock]

They cost more than I'd pay too but tbh I think path of exile cosmetics are even worse and people love that game

[pliant valley]

the best way to fight inflation is boycott. if ppl won't pay what they're asking for then they have to lower the price to make sales. Just like the grocery store when they want to move a certain product it goes on sale.

[gloomy gale]

are people complaining about a cosmetic that you dont have to buy...? lmao

[rapid vapor]

PoE is free though. Even though PoE2 costs money you get premium currency equal to how much you paid for access so in effect it's still free. They are probably the most egregious but it becomes more acceptable when you realize it is completely free to play

[fervent anvil]

You do that then. Ill be enjoying my cool sword skins in the dungeons :)

[gloomy gale]

if people can't afford 12 dollars, than don't buy it it's simple. noone cares if you don't have it

[fervent anvil]

So if i make a f2p game its fine for me to charge 50 for one skin? Ight ima go do that :D

[pliant valley]

ur ignorance to the light of the fact that they are over priced is part of this discussion

[balmy dock]

Idk its kinda like DaD, free to play to a certain point. If you dont buy tabs you will be in for a bad time if you actually get invested in the game

[rapid vapor]

That's how much people will pay other people for their gambling rewards. Loot box shenanigans are its own can of worms I won't get into because I have very strong feelings about it

[gloomy gale]

@pliant valley how is 12$ overpriced? that's cheaper than almsot any game

the league skin was 600$

[rapid vapor]

PoE 2 maybe. But you don't need tabs for poe1

[fervent anvil]

No no. Go look at the new "cases" valve themselves set the price of the skins

[pliant valley]

$20 for 2 sword skins

and we're talking about all games in general over pricing

inflation only works if ppl allow it to work

[rapid vapor]

You'd have to show me. I've never seen them sell cases with guaranteed drops but I don't keep up with that game

[pliant valley]

if a company isn't moving product bc no one will pay the prices they want for it, then they are not making money and will have to lower prices to stay open

[fervent anvil]

Look up cs2 terminal skin prices

[devout lily]

Yeah lol actually makes consistent changes to their game where as IM takes 2 + months to change a weapons dmg by 1….

It’s one thing to pump out cosmetics like crazy if ur a company of hundreds to thousands of devs but when ur small like IM a lot get sacrificed for those shiny skins

[peak lynx]

BRING BACK RANDOM MAP QUE FOR HR AND PVE!

[zinc galleon]

LOOOL

that queueuing up and getting ice map 75% of the time was top 3 worst changes in the game

they need to make it so this game actually has a queue, where your game actually has to fill up before you can load in

not just being in a half burnt lobby with 1 squire team looting chests on the most random edge modules

[eternal vigil]

fighting chinese on US servers is disgusting laggy. please fix or get them out

[peak lynx]

Skill diff. Ur supposed to wait a couple minutes to reset the Que. it sounds like u would just sell stuff and instantly reque. Its on rotation and if u jus reque’d then you’d most likely be on the same map again

[peak lynx]

That was literally the best part. Sounds like ur a pve’r. Just Que arena

[dusty sage]

guys will the workshops also reset on season wipe?

[rapid vapor]

Either way I'd call them overpriced

[indigo valve]

fr

[rapid vapor]

Almost certainly

[zinc galleon]

wut r u saying im complaining about there being no people in the lobbies because there isn't a queue

[tiny girder]

Chinese problem been there for months its crazy they dont do anything about it

[zinc galleon]

you instantly load in but its into a dead lobby half of the time

id rather wait 3 minutes to get into a game and it be full of people with geare

[tiny girder]

You want a gear bracket?

[dusty sage]

yall are mad theres more players in ur lobbys? who cares, guys does workshop wipe with the season reset?

[low tendon]

why is it that my game stops working everytime i go down a red staircase

[subtle goblet]

years*

[zinc galleon]

wouldn't be bad but theres always a way to get around it, like people just bring in 12 halberds in their inventory and they still come in squire

[rapid vapor]

Have you guys fought banshee yet?

[low tendon]

top layer it works i go down and i just get disgusting lag to the point i cant even equip a weapon'

[zinc galleon]

right now half of the teams in a HR lobby are fully naked smokepot resourcefulness rogues

waiting for 2 geared teams to fight and then they just instantly loot a body and run away

or they grief you into dying

[peak lynx]

No people in lobbies = uncontested loot.

[zinc galleon]

nobody is looting chests 2 months into wipe my boy

[dusty sage]

facts gots some gold kits ratting in hr xd

[peak lynx]

They used to have it as 0-40, 40-80, 80-120, and 120-200 then 200+ lobbies

[zinc galleon]

which was dumb because the game didnt have enough population for that many separate queues

[subtle goblet]

still doesn't

[zinc galleon]

and even then, the gear bracketing system doesn't even work correctly because u can just bring in a bunch of random shit in ur inventory and make it into whatever gear bracket u want

[peak lynx]

I agree. I’m just saying what u want didn’t work

[peak lynx]

True

[zinc galleon]

no, im saying like when you queue up on csgo

[peak lynx]

I am a perpetrator of doing this back in the day 💀💀

[zinc galleon]

you have to wait for it to match 9 other players to get in with

[indigo ginkgo]

This season is over, when is the next one?

[zinc galleon]

it should be like that in this game

instead of loading in after 3 seconds and ur in a fully dead lobby

[peak lynx]

I like putting no fill and getting int a lobby instantly. I play the game after work I don’t want to wait 10 minutes for a game just to die

[peak lynx]

Seasons are 4 months long now?

[gritty stone]

I cant with this Quest revealig. like in a month wipe sis coming and still there are new quest, give me a break! thinking about dropping every quest that is not related to crafting next season, ugh

[indigo ginkgo]

Really? I did everything new in this season, what is the point of playing more?

[zinc galleon]

they confirmed wipe is at the end of april

[peak lynx]

I wish quests didn’t reset

[zinc galleon]

sometime after the arena tournament

[peak lynx]

Literally just enjoy squire gear or get a kit and play arena all season. That’s it. Or farm HR. But they don’t have random map HR so HR is just full of people cheesing the map

[gritty stone]

OR just drop them all at beginning of season like i do my best to fulfill everything but im so exhausted

[frail light]

why is bardiche sooooooooo overtuned

[indigo ginkgo]

Oh, ew. Arena is for Choads. hehe

[peak lynx]

I agree

[gritty stone]

whats choads?

[peak lynx]

Aye sick mtg reference too with pfp

Chad

[indigo ginkgo]

It would be nice if there was an open adventure mode, some NPC quests, small island to explore, beyond the head bashing match/map every 15 minutes.

[peak lynx]

If they brought back the old tavern loading lobby but as its own waiting room map and filled it with the quest NPCs that would be peak hub vibes

[wary anvil]

Golden Book of Solaris is bugged on sorc currently, in a bad way. Ceases to function once you select spells.

bug report already submitted, but just wanted to let the plethora of new melee sorcs know

[indigo ginkgo]

Right! First mission, find Lost Oto!!!

[peak lynx]

Game feature. Golden book of Solaris is for clerics.

[wary anvil]

KEK

[mild nimbus]

sooooooo lagggy wtf

[haughty mist]

Do we even care anymore?

[pine hazel]

where i can find jar

its for a quest

[restive lichen]

SDF thinks being 20% smaller or smth isnt a buff for dwarf class? 😂
They can legit hide behind a shield completely

[dusty vapor]

Skinny Pete diffed me with bloodthirsty cause I thought the hitbox on head was closer

Major advantage for defending headshot with dwarf

[restive lichen]

Yeah its already the best skin lol

And ofc you can only buy it for money

[surreal crown]

workshops still required 15 wood to upgrae? shouldnt it be lower?

[frail light]

??? its for blue stones lol

[restive lichen]

Oh ok

Still good enough before the buff

[gleaming citrus]

fking rubber banding

all games

ples

[valid dagger]

I went from 240 fps to 60 fps, wtf going on with this game

[unreal talon]

Thinking about getting back into this game, any good updates?

[frail merlin]

ive heard good things about the recent changes to the game, personally.

[indigo ginkgo]

There is a new map, Blue Maelstrom, different and fun. That's about it.

[vapid oyster]

[acoustic kiln]

add paladin

[dark merlin]

Does banshee and spectral have a chance for artiffact in HR

[frail light]

dont believe so no

[dark merlin]

ty goat

[frail light]

they changed it a while back and not sure if it was ever changed

[rapid vapor]

I lied, middle pile from them do* banshee is just guaranteed to drop a magic item now

[gritty stone]

never had such a fun season since this one, i pley 300 hours this season or so

[wild scaffold]

is anyone else lagging like crazy after the patch?

[indigo ginkgo]

Nope

[dusty sage]

only you

[indigo ginkgo]

Lag is caused by the internet, if your FPS is dropping, it is your computer, check for an updated vid driver, its Friday!!!

[olive isle]

No, he has a point, at the least, the UI is lagging out of match

[stoic shadow]

rondel sounds like a black dude who banged my mom

[gleaming condor]

for some reason, for me, the game runs better in windowed-fullscreen (rather than fullscreen)

[gritty loom]

can any1 tell me how i am supposed to fight any1 and win? It feels like every time im just getting fucked big time

[indigo ginkgo]

What class are you using?

[gritty loom]

fighter

[vapid oyster]

you hit them with your sword

[gritty loom]

no shit xD

[indigo ginkgo]

Okay, go on youtube, watch a bunch of pvp vids, you will see

[gleaming condor]

somehow youtubers do it better, no idea how

[winter marlin]

Can you elaborate? There's a lot of different situations

Are you running longsword? Halberd? Shield+sword?

[gritty loom]

longsword

[winter marlin]

Skills?

[gritty loom]

every time im getting in close pvp it feels llike im dealing no damage after i start spectating them

[winter marlin]

Are you riposting?

[vapid oyster]

aim for the head

[gritty loom]

yes

but ig then im only hitting body?

then its skill issue

[gritty loom]

swift sword mastery and defence mastery and bulwark

is gear difference a big thing?

[winter marlin]

Dunno, with good ripostes i've killed blue bis people

[vapid oyster]

yes

[winter marlin]

But if youre squire vs blues yes, they have the upper hand

[gritty loom]

okay

ty yall

[gleaming condor]

the thing is, the game is kinda hopeless for beginners

you can't be running anything but squire pretty much until you get 1k hours in

[vapid oyster]

wut

[gleaming condor]

maybe not 1k, but 500+ for sure, I've put maybe 150h into the game at this point (also watching other guys on youtube and such) ... and I maybe defeated 1 guy in blues so far, mostly by luck

yet I still die way way more many times than I kill other people (so it does not make any sense for me to spend time to invest in ANY gear)

[peak lynx]

Probably hitting the body as well as if ur too close hitting with the hilt. The tip of the sword hits for more damage than closer up on the sword

All weapons are like that btw with swing pattern

[dusky marsh]

in league of legends it was common not go into ranked queues before you played the game for a whole season/year so you would know the basics and be able to compete better. if youd hop into ranked right away you might bury your account in the lowest elo and probably never get out again

[indigo ginkgo]

? Can spell books be Enhanced by the Weaponsmith?

[hardy ravine]

Yo anyone knows the value of Zirkzi's Eye?

[peak lynx]

Me stuck in bronze for the first 5 years playing league. Jus hit gold last night

[gleaming condor]

yeah, first 200h were kinda trash in League for me too, next 400h got a bit better - ranked was in fact easier to play than normals for whatever reason btw ... but neither experience is great is what I'm saying, I'm not a casual gamer, far from it - yet I'm still struggling a lot

learning curve isn't even what I'm coplaining about, I am just confounded by the "rich getting richer" being a part of the core gameplay

[peak lynx]

It’s not really a skill diff in this game it’s mostly match ups. U have to know who to run at and who to run from based off of what class you and them are playing

[winter marlin]

Well, gear is cheaper than ever, there's no excuse to say that anymore

Even if you don't want to run jewelry you can always run plain blue gear and get a small bonus

[spiral totem]

I got rich on torn sails and sharp spines. 100K in the bank and a nice kit on all my characters

[winter marlin]

Hell, any chest you open has blues and purples

[floral thunder]

So the tourny is for 15k worth of red shards? Not cash?

[indigo ginkgo]

Gotta love the numbdumbs that play this. In solo pve, another player yelled in local to help him with the boss. I didn't respond, so he thought punching me, over and over, would get my attention. I continued to loot the room. lols

[frigid sleet]

THIIS GAME IS SO BAD

LOL

[barren oxide]

Wont weapon skins collide with identifying if enemy has unique or don't?

[frigid sleet]

im done i uninstall

[gleaming condor]

it's more about time-investment than even gold really, it just doesn't make sense to me to spend even 5-10m clicking in UI if I'm still gonna die in that gear in the next match

[frigid sleet]

garbage game

[random coral]

Hey, i sold a chest and i cant take the money in my stash saying i have not enough space (i do have enough but not with bags or purse, like just raw gold in my stash) why can't i take it ?

[floral pendant]

So is the game going to wipe again in a month already? Is that why everything is worth nothing now?

[stable urchin]

why the fk does forcefull shot last for 10 seconds