game-discussion

[iron tiger]

always end up back here

[hearty ginkgo]

its 3 seconds of insane 30% slow, this means i could get atleast 2 bow hits right?

wait

what if i build debuff duration too

[grizzled citrus]

you pressure and be annoying with surv bow and when they get to you just bash them away if its not an iron will barb

[hearty ginkgo]

it will still slow the barb too though

insanely underrated skill

[grizzled citrus]

slow yes but it does no knock back

[hearty ginkgo]

still gives a chance to run

[grizzled citrus]

you would think lol

i think the power is in the knock back more than the slow

[hearty ginkgo]

barbs are most of the time no treat if you have shield

[tardy mural]

any idea why did they make the frost crystal ring 1 will and 2 vig instead of 2 will and 1 vig like the grimsmiles are in str?

[hearty ginkgo]

well in looking onto combos with slow specifically, knockback is a bonus

also what other skills fighter has

anything for ranged?

[grizzled citrus]

if it doesnt knock them away they can get free hits while you are in range. knock back can launch them like 3 meters if you have an upward trajectory.

[hearty ginkgo]

cool

[grizzled citrus]

thats why i like the buckler for shield bash. you get to choose the trajectory and hit heads easier

[hearty ginkgo]

does hitting a head give any other benefit other than damage

[grizzled citrus]

thats the fun of the end of wipe. trying out all the stupid builds that look fun

no

[hearty ginkgo]

i was doing that entire wipe

[warm kraken]

soo are we just having no arena this weekend or what??

[hearty ginkgo]

cd reduction cleric, sorcerer, rogue, hell i even tried the drum killer bard

[hearty ginkgo]

go get a job

[grizzled citrus]

lmao back out of arena and pull it back up

[hearty ginkgo]

the weeks will flew by

[steady holly]

arenas no open today?

[warm kraken]

having a bad day at work bud?

[leaden rampart]

i was wondering do you keep your blue stone for cosmetics trough seasons

[grizzled citrus]

sure do

[leaden rampart]

ty

[stoic dirge]

why is arena closed

[hearty ginkgo]

i dont have one

[grizzled citrus]

lol

[sonic lodge]

Treasurer chest quest out now

[hearty ginkgo]

is it worth stacking phys damage bonus for the bow

as a fighter

or just add phys works

[grizzled citrus]

sometimes it takes a couple min... dang you fiend

[spiral totem]

anyone know what a chest is worth gold wise?

[warm kraken]

yeah they're on the market

[stoic dirge]

lmao fiending

[grizzled citrus]

you want both

[spiral totem]

oh, thank you! I should have checked first. my bad

[celest panther]

try restarting your game, it worked for me

[stoic dirge]

yep doing that now

[grizzled citrus]

you have to back out of arena and pull it back up

[spiral totem]

79K and dropping lol, spec bags were that price 2 weeks ago or less

[grizzled citrus]

if you are right on it at opening it will just say closed until you back out and open again

[sonic maple]

Gonna drop hard

[pliant valley]

nah, 79k for spec bag maybe on feb 20th when market opened

couple weeks ago they were about 40-50

but yeah, it's droppping fast

[grizzled citrus]

it was in the 80s like a week ago when the dupe was going on.

2 weeks maybe

[pliant valley]

maybe just over 2 wks

=p

idk, i've been looking at them for the past couple weeks and hadn't seen them that high

tell you what i would like to see... more Flame Boar on the map

there's only what 2 or 3 for the map?

[grizzled citrus]

gunna make me do it arent you lol announcement was on the 6th of this month so 13 days ago. just UNDER!!! 2 weeks

[pliant valley]

LUL

[grizzled citrus]

🙂

bazinga

[quiet stump]

Does everyone just suck in PVE. Like I know decency doesn’t exist in this game but you go through the trouble of killing a boss no matter how hard or easy it is and people just take the key from me. Like come on. I know boo hoo but like do it yourself

[grizzled citrus]

it always blew my mind how there was more toxic ass hats in PVE than any other mode lmfao

[pliant valley]

dad let the kids play on his account,.. oh wait that's not needed, you only have to be 13 to play Dark and Darker

[grizzled citrus]

they grief my son all the time

[quiet stump]

It is the most toxic mode. People chase me around saying the worst stuff imaginable once they hear my voice and know I’m a woman. It’s so gross

They just don’t care. Are there no decent humans anymore

This game attracts the worst of the worst

[pliant valley]

yea, and everybody thinks they are gonna stab u up on pve mode.

[quiet stump]

Yep. Punching bag that cannot die. Leave me alone lmao

[grizzled citrus]

my son is super nice and helpful in pve but people always bring mobs to him and shut the door. stuff like that

[pliant valley]

i do find a few good team mates sometimes

[quiet stump]

I’m one of the helpful kind people out there. Always taken advantage of. I wish this was a more inviting game. People wonder why it’s dying. I only play with four people. Everyone else is horrible and toxic. I avoid arena at all costs, and it should be a place where you can learn your craft and improve PvP. It’s just awful

🫡😂

[grizzled citrus]

thats just gaming in 2026 brother

[quiet stump]

Even people in the hall of knights are horrible lmao

Real af

[quiet stump]

So true

[sonic maple]

He's going hog wild

[grizzled citrus]

im almost 40 and can barely tolerate gaming anymore. all these skibbity fuck heads

[pliant valley]

LUL

[reef kettle]

do you earn triumph faster now???

[quiet stump]

LMAO yep it’s like I’m way older than you kid and you’re talking to me like that lol get a life

[grizzled citrus]

i think its got deminishing returns that reset every wipe

[austere plaza]

anyone interested in a bis blue fighter (warlock) blue kit i just got?

[sonic maple]

You get griefed enough times you'll become the griefer

[pliant valley]

^

[quiet stump]

I never will though

I have a moral compass and a heart

[pliant valley]

time changes everyone

[reef kettle]

istg they keep changing skin prices

[upbeat plank]

See I just kill bosses and let other grab the loot lol cause my ping ik I won’t get any of it

[sonic maple]

I hope they're not Knights you're referring to

[edgy sable]

the problem with the game (inb4 pve) is theres really only pvping to do, it would be cool if there was a reason to work together with a random guy!!

[sonic maple]

WHAT DO THE NUMBERS MEAN MASON

[reef kettle]

THE FELIDIANS KEEP CHANGING

THEY WERE ALL 12 THEN ONES 8

[pliant valley]

the knights r like "we are not obligated to have to take a ticket, we choose which ones we want and try to set a time to group up"

[fathom plaza]

keyboard warriors, dont worry. There the kids who wont even make eye contact with us IRL. Im also similar age

[quiet stump]

Thankfully no. Knights stepped in to try and “break it up”. I wasn’t the one who started anything I was just responding to messages. Never harsh or mean

[sonic maple]

And they won't let me be a knight 😔

[clever blaze]

somebody knows about the locked door in the upper right corner of firedeep? any key or smth?

[iron tiger]

is it possible to solo queue duos on hr

[quiet stump]

I have applied to be a knight. I love helping new players and encouraging people. There are some knights I have played with personally I would like to see removed. There’s no place for them but they’re allowed in

[pliant valley]

yes

[fathom plaza]

not anymore

sadly

[pliant valley]

turn on "Do not fill team"

[iron tiger]

bruh

[quiet stump]

Perhaps they are gone now

[fathom plaza]

its greyed out now

[pliant valley]

oh wait, nvm not in HR

[solid saddle]

It was truly one if not the most useless system they ever made and that’s saying something, the fact that that came before being able to que trios with randoms is so funny

[pliant valley]

sorry

[grizzled citrus]

I like helping but i couldnt be a night. you fools are needy! lol

knight

[sonic maple]

They do change tho usually when arena starts or quests drop or there's an update

[quiet stump]

One weird man, creepy. One really cruel woman. I think and hope they are gone now

[pliant valley]

LUL

[quiet stump]

Lmao

[grizzled citrus]

I just want the knights shield. im so jelly

[quiet stump]

It is cool

[sonic maple]

Well creepy isn't illegal and how cruel can you be online?

[quiet stump]

Not going into details on public thread

[sonic maple]

Did she virtually hit a virtual puppy?

[quiet stump]

Don’t worry about it. They don’t play with me or affect me anymore

[west wadi]

:3

[sonic maple]

Blast that vile women

[quiet stump]

Lmao

[grizzled citrus]

i need a smoke. you guys are stressing me out

[pliant valley]

i tried request a knight once, i got a discord msg from some dude trying to Roleplay. I was like nah, i'm good. and they acted so confused.

[quiet stump]

Sorry. I almost never talk on here. Enjoy your smoke!

[sonic maple]

Meditation is healthier brother but mainly cheaper

[quiet stump]

Got my vape on the charger currently. Prob not the smoke you’re talking about

[pine hazel]

What 100 affinity do?

[pliant valley]

get more things

[pine hazel]

I have 75 with armourer

[pliant valley]

try harder

[pine hazel]

And i have all the stuff in common

[pliant valley]

=p

it gets better

it goes to 225 i think

[pine hazel]

225 what

[pliant valley]

they refresh and give new quests during the season

[pine hazel]

Yea

[pliant valley]

so u can get more

[pine hazel]

But what 100 of aff ad

If i have all the things on common

What i get with that extra 25

[pliant valley]

i can't say

i don't recall rn

[pine hazel]

@sonic maple did u know?

The 100 of affinity with armourer

What adds to the squire

If the 75 gives all in common quality

[grizzled citrus]

deffinately cheaper lmao i spend almost 4k a year on smokes and probably another 1k on flower a year

[sonic maple]

You can get the special package 📦 now

[pliant valley]

wow ur get it cheap

[sonic maple]

Why does smoking have to be so fun

[fathom plaza]

I swapped to live resin vaps and im never going back to flower

[pine hazel]

Whats that

[pliant valley]

i'm like 4k smokes and 7k buds

[fathom plaza]

7k dam snoop

[sonic maple]

Give him a little side eye and a wink

[grizzled citrus]

they are too much for me. im getting old

[pliant valley]

=p

[sonic maple]

Just kidding you get nothing added to squire

[fathom plaza]

they are pretty crazy, i end up smoking way less. like the tinyest pull

[pliant valley]

i eat one gummy, i'm out in 45 min or less

i don't do dabs, it's too much like smoking crack or meth

[sonic maple]

You miss out on half the effect

[pliant valley]

using a rig and torch like 0.0

[fathom plaza]

i can assure you i dont.

at least with the cartidiges i use

I get just as H.

[grizzled citrus]

i always end up crashing on energy if i use the vapes. kick my ass

[sonic maple]

I've gotten too strong a tolerance on that everything needs tolerance breaks

[fathom plaza]

oh true Mad, i do take breaks not every day

[sonic maple]

Then you're using in moderation good job son

[fathom plaza]

you get crazy anxiety i your constantly smoking, we all know this

[pliant valley]

i take breaks inbetween

[grizzled citrus]

thats what happened to me. i quit before my son was born and when i picked it up again i couldnt believe how much i used to smoke. never again

[pliant valley]

maybe 5min, maybe 15 min

[fathom plaza]

ya same as you get older you just calm down

compared to the 20s

[sonic maple]

[fathom plaza]

i did a dab once

it was like crack

[pliant valley]

^

[fathom plaza]

the guy was like you better sit down first

thats your first red flag

[grizzled citrus]

for sure lmao

[fathom plaza]

i should have been sus

[pliant valley]

i made my buddies stepson vomit bc we loaded such a big dab onto the rig

[fathom plaza]

omg lol

[sonic maple]

What you just get too hot and have to take off your shirt it's nothing weird XD

[pliant valley]

i didn't know if he was going to breath right again, but he asked for it

he was playing tough guy, LUL

[grizzled citrus]

we used to smoke salvia back in the day. talk about "you better sit down first"

[pliant valley]

aw shit

[sonic maple]

The fact they don't teach tolerance control in schools for things even like caffeine is telling

[pliant valley]

salvia extract

the trees will move

i melted into the table once

[fathom plaza]

okay good. cuz i did do that

[subtle birch]

Great so the new collector quest of interacting with 15 treasure hoards is either bugged or BS. Only 1 interaction counts per pile, and if you arent the first to do it then it doesnt count at all

[pliant valley]

my buddy got stuck in a book as the pages kept flipping by.... he was standing in the doorway looking at the door frame

[grizzled citrus]

yup lol crazy shit in your head while you just look wetardead to anyone else around you

[pliant valley]

^LUL

ah the good ol days

[grizzled citrus]

lol i like my days now better

[subtle birch]

I meant the treasurer quest not collector

[grizzled citrus]

yeah its only the first pull. same with gaining AP points. only first pull gives points. AND i think you have to be the first one to pull it?

might have changed by now

[subtle birch]

nope. just attempted it

[grizzled citrus]

so it did work after someone else pulled it first or no?

[sonic maple]

What a great game discussion

[grizzled citrus]

could be worse

[sonic maple]

The needles are in my skin

[grizzled citrus]

gross

[sonic maple]

Salvia makes sweating feel like needles...

[grizzled citrus]

never had that happen

[sonic maple]

Must of been weak like 5x?

[grizzled citrus]

lol no

60x

full out of body experience

[sonic maple]

Must of just not sweated

[grizzled citrus]

when you come back to reality i would just laugh uncontrollably. then sometimes it would kick in again and you were gone for another 5 min

[finite yoke]

<@&988703997378584596> please tell them to keep this channel for game discussion instead of drugs

[pliant valley]

my bad, i thought it said general

crybaby

grown man trying to tattle tail

[finite yoke]

Please keep such disrespectful language to yourself sir

[grizzled citrus]

lmfao

we got wrecked

[lethal badger]

Let’s be mindful and respectful towards one another in the channels!

[finite yoke]

So true Richard!

[lethal badger]

Correct, think it’s been like this for last season as well

[grizzled citrus]

you are right. there wasnt nearly enough toxic comments in the feed. lets let it balance out

[lethal badger]

Or just no toxicity

[grizzled citrus]

you do realise where you are right?

this discord is 90% toxic chat

[finite yoke]

Please stop disrespecting the hard working staff of the server, FinalBoss

[grizzled citrus]

im gunna puke. brb

is this better?

[finite yoke]

Maybe your stomach would be less upset if you didn't do so many drugs

[grizzled citrus]

yeah, i still feel it after 20 years

[nocturne merlin]

why does the sling suck so bad?

[sonic maple]

Always been like that

[grizzled citrus]

alright boys @finite yoke is a party pooper. good chatting. im off to arena

[sonic maple]

Cleric can wield it

[grizzled citrus]

good luck out there everyone.

[spiral totem]

i just keep checking the artifact sword filter to try and snag one

[odd pendant]

this game is actually so garbage, why tf are they changing my binds. enter is to type in chat but somehow that makes my game windowed. middle of typing and it brings the emote wheel up, space to put spaces between words and i jump as well

[grizzled citrus]

sounds stupid but press left alt 5 times

your welcome

[odd pendant]

whats that do lol

[grizzled citrus]

i have no idea but i had stuff change aswell. normally right click auto transfers items but it was dropping them. enter was windowing me and something else. someone told me the alt 5 times thing and it fixed it.

[odd pendant]

crazy thank you. devs add a patch and then adds a million glitches. clueless team

[grizzled citrus]

it would only do it when i was playing with someone else

solo everything was fine. go into duo with my son and shit was different lmao idk

[eternal vigil]

this game would be in a so much ebtter place with a hard barb nerf

[reef kettle]

this game would be much better with a cleric dev

[odd pendant]

crazy, dont understand how these ppl dont test their patches. this game would be so much better if they stopped balancing everything all the time

[sonic maple]

You wernt tabbed in

[sonic maple]

Click left alt once

[grizzled citrus]

oh... lmao

still doesnt explain why it would be fine in solo but not duo

same session be good in solo then go play duo and buttons were doing different things

[fleet surge]

Buff rat 🐀

[pliant valley]

they use our data and AI to run tests for the patches

[sonic maple]

It can happen in any mode from alt tabbing just have to hit left alt once to fix

[grizzled citrus]

damn. good info. I never had it happen before until the latest update

press it 5 times for good measures

[sonic maple]

Some patches worse than others 2 ago it was like every time

[frail prawn]

is it just my games or are other people getting very laggy games

[feral karma]

Hoard hits need to count every hit, and not just the first one to touch the pile.

[grizzled citrus]

been really bad last couple weeks. sometimes at spectral it will get pretty framy

you can alway tell when people are nearby when you feel the lag

[odd pendant]

lazy devs fr, sdf was out here about to put 350 movespeed on just barb and fighter and bro said ya lets release that. i remember when they still had the tavern pregame lobby and right after they released a patch ppl started falling through the floor and losing all their gear. no compensation, just a sorry and we'll do better next time. like no one decided hey let me load into lobby to see if there are any noticeable bugs.

[grizzled citrus]

pickpocket used to work in the tavern lmao they could pickpocket the weapons right out of your hands lmfao

[wooden shadow]

is crystal sword best for running melee sorc since stacking will stat benefits spells? would it be dumb to run cutlass w stone skin? or is wizard a better gish? questions i have died many times trying answer and still have no idea(i suck but am having fun).

[blazing pulsar]

is the arena ungodly laggy for anyone else since it opened tonight?

[blissful marsh]

YEAH

caps

[odd pendant]

i remember this too. just sucks to see this game tank bc of poor decisions. had hope but dont think we're ever gonna see this game do good with future content or player count

[feral karma]

End of April.

[hidden crystal]

Jsbsidbeiebe

@zinc sparrow

Bogted server

Botted

L server

[pearl portal]

can you not do superior equipment quest in pve?

[stone panther]

you can. but only the first pull of a pile counts. So good luck with 50 rats competing for that same pull, lmao

[pearl portal]

oh that explains why i havent made progress lol. thank you for response

[wintry saddle]

When do u think they will nerf magical healing

on cleric

[warm kraken]

so you need 15 first pulls? lmao

[stone panther]

yep. And it counts per person, not on the team. So if you play with the same 3 people every time. You need to be first ones at the pile, 45 times... sO mUcH FuN

[frail prawn]

yea i figured i thought i was going crazy

[grizzled citrus]

nah, iv got a badass new pc and it still happens to me

[brittle barn]

Why can you turn all the lights off in arena? Its like the devs get a hard on for gamma cheaters

[wintry saddle]

Am conviced 60% of rangers in arena's use some kind of aim assist

[blazing pulsar]

preach brother

[brittle barn]

I love fighting a barb in pitch black and he never misses a swing (100% headshot ratio btw), but on my screen the entire thing is pitch fuckin black

[opal spear]

is there a channel for selling kits?

[warm kraken]

game has truedark you can't see in the dark even if you have 10,000 gamma

[queen gyro]

I am pretty new is 1700 gold in one run good on castles?

[wintry saddle]

nah barbs are trash rangers are op

[brittle barn]

Gamma hacks refers to custom clients that are essentially soft ESP, not gamma setting

[feral karma]

I guess you are unaware of Ini.

the magical thing every game has.

[stone panther]

every other game has decent anti cheat that detects it though. All we are stuck with is anticheat™ that does nothing but scan your harddrive constantly

[feral karma]

It's not a cheat lol.

Should we have access to it? No, do we? Yes.

Do they care? Nope.

[stone panther]

fucking with game parameters outside the game is cheating. plain and simple.
doesnt matter if you can do it with just notepad

[feral karma]

So I guess you don't know what Ini is either.

Streamers have even shown people how to edit the Ini files, and nothing has happened.

Shit there are even guides on how to change Ini on the reddit.

[stone panther]

just because they dont care doesnt make it less of a cheat

[feral karma]

I think you should learn the difference between cheat software, and editing the ini files with commands.

You know the ones the company made?

Ark has Ini commands that completely change the game, and that's another company that shouldn't allow it.

But Wildcard is and has always been a shit company.

[gilded minnow]

Hey Paul can you release the damn patch. Thanks

[river mason]

where is outer cemetary ?

module

[wintry saddle]

L update

[subtle heart]

How does a card game that costs 25 dollars have 200,000 concurrent players and DaD only had 5thousand? I swear they need to do some anime type marketing and things will be so much different.

[subtle heart]

That’s the only advantage those other games have over this one, they do animated trailers, and maybe some cutscenes which could be added to DaD too.

[stone panther]

the card game didnt have sdf for 3 years

[grizzled meadow]

why would they release a patch during arena limited time mode? stupid devs doing stupid stuff like usual

[obtuse agate]

What the hell man, the game just kicked me off and ate my entire kit going from Ruins to Crypts on PVE

[nova wyvern]

Timezone different. Bad time for us, good time for them

[wintry saddle]

they really want this game to be another shooter game

[grizzled meadow]

they do a different day wtf lol

[frosty wolf]

rip barb

[stone panther]

there is not a single software dev on the planet who thinks patching on a friday afternoon is a good idea

[wooden breach]

Got a big nerf?

[broken cove]

Why are we updating the night arena opens?

why arent we updating on like a tuesday or some shit

[wintry saddle]

cleric warlock ranger are the 3 most op classes yet they dont nerf them

[nova wyvern]

I never said it was a good idea, I was just giving a fair reason for why

[tacit laurel]

how much dubuff duration is needed for infa dreamwalk

[grizzled meadow]

not a fair reason

[nova wyvern]

🤷🏾‍♂️

[wintry saddle]

crazy why cant they do a patch on sunday evening

[stone panther]

yeh, good time for them. But lunch time on a friday is not a good time.
i'm betting they planned for yesterday 17:00 local, and missed a deadline forcing them to assemble the build this morning.

[wintry saddle]

or monday morning

why in peak arenas time

are they trying to lose players lol

[nova wyvern]

Assuming isn't gonna do much more then upset yourself more. At this point it is what it is. Besides Arena isn't a "main mode" so I doubt they factor that in their planning

[stone panther]

i dont play arena. I was commenting that no software dev thinks pusing late on a friday is a solid plan. Or even on friday at all

[grizzled meadow]

lost is a dev plant fo sho

[obtuse agate]

Took a red 10 minutes ago and got kicked out to lobby, and then the game booted me out. Lost my entire kit and all of my inventory, game didn't even ask me to resume my match.

[nova wyvern]

I'm just a being reasonable, Sure I'm playing devil's advocate but just to assume the worse just reinforces negative feelings

[wintry saddle]

trash game am i right

[sturdy forge]

melt nerf wen

[stoic shadow]

Who is iKillMyOwnTeamAlways

[nova wyvern]

Fair point, but every Dev is different and they all have their reasons. Good and bad, from the track record of patches. This feels normal

[wintry saddle]

bet u play cleric

[hasty tiger]

holy fuck druid heals only have 25% scaling now wtf lmao

[night folio]

Would be nice if capes and hearts went dark when you crouched as well since they have the tech

[obtuse agate]

but but the guys buying gear with USD make it look overpowered

[hasty tiger]

ur so right those guys with perfect gear reaching 4hp /sec were really going beastmode in the armor pen 2 hit meta kek

[fading elk]

Holy W update

way to go ironmace

[steady linden]

W patch

[brave pebble]

Druid nerfs again? Bruh come on

[fading elk]

No bard buffs but barb nerfs I can take fs

[honest cedar]

There is no greater feeling than seeing Barbarians geting the nerf bat

[fading elk]

He got gutted all his perks caught a stray

[wintry saddle]

bet u play ranger

[steady linden]

Bard top 1 class now, why would they buff it 😭

[fading elk]

Fighter easily clears it but yeah honestly its top 3 but your right

[honest cedar]

I play rogue, sir. The most nerf'd class in game

[fading elk]

Both rogue and druid are having a nerf off rn

[main barn]

How much is a life after death 2add damage

[honest cedar]

SIIIIIIIGH

[fading elk]

Values on all items changed so much over the past 2 weeks

2 weeks ago i would tell you an exact amount now i have no clue

[main barn]

Gotcha

[wintry saddle]

Cap rouge is op in arenas

[fading elk]

Expensive though for sure You could get so much for it still

[hasty tiger]

I wonder if the devs even realize that lowering the scaling to compensate for the duration extension of the healing abilities doesn't even equalize since the heal is divided by the base duration. Buff duration will increase total healing, but extending the base duration divides the HP /sec. I wonder if druid scaling nerfs are even intentional or if the devs just fucked up by accident.

[main barn]

Ball park?

[fading elk]

I wish i could tell you bro 😭 it would of went for like 2 full chests and more 2 weeks ago

Sorry

when did you get it

[gentle dune]

maybe start to think about the normal game sir and not only the arena 🙂

[brittle barn]

Druids just catching strays at this point. This is frocked up

[honest cedar]

Arena is max level toxic. Players are so rude if you don't contribute a billion splash dmg like wizards do

• it's silly

[brittle barn]

Cleric over here having its heals fly right under the radar too

[fading elk]

It was the best class of all time at one point and everyone made the biggest deal about it so in sdf's mind its just only nerfs

[honest cedar]

Poor clerics still have to point and hit their heals

• Druids are the easy mode dumb healer now

[brittle barn]

Right cause natures touch, orb, tree, and dreamfire doesnt require aimchecks rightttt

[fading elk]

Ive never played healer druid but dont you still have to aim with the other heals and barskin armour, the only non aim one is the aoe heal no?

[brittle barn]

Sanc exists btw

Also just silly nerfing all the heals rather than lifebloom

[honest cedar]

the heal targeting for druid is all but zero

• meanwhile if clerics miss a single heal they're cooked

[fading elk]

that makes more sense thank you

[brittle barn]

Wdym?

[main lintel]

what actual circus performer decided that SORCERER NEEDED A 50% BUFF.......... ACTUAL SMOOTH

[hasty tiger]

false? druid only has 1 spell that isnt aimed and its a 3m radius, it's definitely easier to prep buffs on teammates than heal them instantly mid fight, but druid still needs some accuracy

[main lintel]

you know its bad when before they would get 300-500 circus performer emojis per patch.... now they dont even bother reading the patch notes... and the ratio of emojis is the same but all categories are 10 or below

[signal pawn]

servers down?

[static gazelle]

GOTTA LOVE UNANNOUNCED SERVER MAINTENANCE. GIVE THIS ONE CLOWN EMOJI FOR EVERY TIME THEY SCREW STUFF UP)

[warm kraken]

when the changes are good people stop clown reacting

crazy to think about

[charred veldt]

I mean it's alright like

Like for reckless

[main lintel]

incorrect... when the game is this dead... no one reacts at all... its the exact same ratios as before.... just lower numbers all round

[charred veldt]

You realistically do not need more than 25% armor pen

[hoary vessel]

nerf bard

[charred veldt]

base to get maximun value

[blazing sapphire]

jew cant even use hsi brain or read?

[wraith robin]

Sorcorer got buffed ?????

[charred veldt]

yes

sorc got crazy buffs

[signal pawn]

this just isnt true lol with true phys gone armor pen replaces it

[hasty tiger]

yeah its weird that almost all of druids healing scaling comes from 1 perk and not gear

[charred veldt]

slightly less burst

[wraith robin]

WHy it ws alreayd klilling lobby naked

[charred veldt]

what I meant

is that with reckless at 50%

you need around 25% to hit for full a max PDR fighter

other classes barely scrap 60

[hasty tiger]

that isnt how pen works

[dense grove]

yoooo dwarf is back

[hexed root]

game is down on arena night?????????

[charred veldt]

It is?

1% armor pen denies 1% PDR

[hasty tiger]

75% pen would multiply their PDR by .25

[charred veldt]

it's not like 100% to hit for full damage a full pdr fighter

[nocturne merlin]

HOW FUCKING COOL IS THIS GAME. MAINTENCE ON ARENA NIGHT ONE!

[storm helm]

W NERFS

[kind comet]

it is

[warm kraken]

why are you even Troubadour

[static gazelle]

MAINTAIN THIS DIH

[narrow whale]

Maintenance at midnight lmfaooooo

[charred veldt]

What

Since when

😭

[uncut stump]

yOOO SORC IS ACTUALLY PLAYABLE NOW

[charred veldt]

f*ck it I'm busting a full pdr fighter with armet now

[hasty tiger]

idk at least past 2 wipes

[hexed root]

Please extend arena!!!! 40 minutes in prime time.. makes a dad go to bed early. SUNDAY NIGHT ARENA!!!!

[hasty tiger]

armet dwarf supremacy

[charred veldt]

I am surprised

[patent breach]

the Sorc get richer

[charred veldt]

They actually did what I suggested

[patent breach]

Why do they need it

[charred veldt]

Gave dwarfs regular interaction speed

[patent breach]

Dwarfs deserve nothing

[kind comet]

i think they need luck

[charred veldt]

Damn why the...

[kind comet]

for dwarf

[charred veldt]

"racism"?

hehe

[broken sigil]

nice idea patching in the middle of prime gaming time...

[long hornet]

It’s midnight. Most people aren’t playing now

[hexed root]

extend ARENA! say it with me. EXTEND ARENA!!!

[charred veldt]

They always patch around this time thursdays

[long hornet]

Also time zone diff too

Finally some w barb nerfs

[brave jolt]

why patch right now? wtf

[patent breach]

It's 2:30 in the afternoon for me

[hexed root]

it is litterally why I grind... and there is a wipe comming up...

[long hornet]

It’s over a month away…

[grizzled citrus]

lol as you call him a jew and misspell everything

[hexed root]

midnight... depending on whre u live in the US.. u saying u don't game at 9pm in the US?

[grizzled citrus]

its already past midnight on the best coast

[hexed root]

I agree founding father time is the best time.. but still.

[charred veldt]

What even is founding father time

Americans be using whatever but the global standard 😭

[tulip arch]

GUYS the devs are finally growing brains MAYBE THEYLL NERF RANGER SOON

all we have to do is wait and they might actually do it

[hexed root]

lol.. I am fully used to and aware of zulu / gmt.. but doesnt mean the rest of the world cares... and for krean devs.. they don't care obviously.

[tulip arch]

rather then nerfing barb then nerfing him again

[elfin fern]

what was that just now

[dusky gyro]

bro these devs have the worst patch times ever seen holy chit

[hasty rune]

👀

[hexed root]

Facts.

why not patch yesterday.. or after arena..

say it with me... EXTEND ARENA!!!! EXTEND ARENA!!

[grizzled citrus]

you dont think they would have if it was ready? cmon

[hexed root]

so delaying a patch isnt an option?

[grizzled citrus]

no

[elfin fern]

it used to be worse, like 7 pm on a thursday night

[charred veldt]

Imo the firewall changes are spot on

you no longer get decimated of the initial cast but it hurts LIKE HELL if you stand too much in it

[elfin fern]

they should be patching on sunday mornings at 2/3 am eastern (3 pm korea time)

[grizzled citrus]

stay on track and nobody will care come tomorrow anyway lmao

[charred veldt]

Also

I have a slight issue with the lava colossus

[hexed root]

even in like 4 hours.. only people impacted would be Hawaii.

[charred veldt]

Why do they "Increase the difficulty" 5 patches back to back

So only magic healing geared warlocks can kill it

And then go "Reduced difficulty on banshee"

Like bro should be the other way around

[dim umbra]

achilles has a duration..... barb js got mega nerfed

[elfin fern]

few were killing banshee, i guess their data said too many people were killing colossus or something

[charred veldt]

Killing banshee is not as rewarding

She got a boss drop that's almost useless except for a book people would get once for arena and that's it

[grizzled citrus]

thats dinner time in korea.

[charred veldt]

Spectral got much more uses

[hexed root]

okay, but not game time. :-p

[charred veldt]

And considering banshee takes way longer than spectral

Because of the forced mechanics and last phase

[grizzled citrus]

lmao

[elfin fern]

i think their main concern is that nobody was going into the middle because banshee was too hard/took too long

[charred veldt]

even with straight BIS

[dim umbra]

why is it like always 3 classes that get changed every patch? wheres warlock and ranger and rogue and wizard and fighter and cleric and bar?? always druid and barb getting changed lol

[charred veldt]

It was not because it was "too hard", it's because it was not worth it

Maybe "took too long" is a better way to put it

Also the fact they gutted both ruins bosses loot room might have to do

I don't even go check his gold chest after they gutted the gold piles

And most times there is not even the normal chest

[hexed root]

All I am saying, is they can extend arena time for one night becuase of it... i doubt that is controversal for anyone.

[charred veldt]

Like bro I get the economy is hard but nor spectral or banshee can afford gold piles??

[verbal geode]

This one of them 8 hour updates?

[daring smelt]

Are the voice channel creation broken ?

[mental tulip]

more like 12hours

[grizzled citrus]

NO! LMAO im kidding. i will always take more arena days

[wicked spear]

i also wonder

[charred veldt]

For banshee there is literally 2 attacks you have to "somewhat" dodge

The magic missiles, which you can keep hitting her while at it

[verbal geode]

JUst started playing again lol wizard level 2 rogue level 22. fml

[charred veldt]

And the mist attack, to which you just go the a corner and dodge

But for EVERYTHING else but 3rd scream

You literally go under her

And keep hitting

She can't do SH!T about it

[wicked spear]

rogue 66 ranger 70 sorc 60 druid 60

[charred veldt]

Not even the black ball does anything with that spaggetti code

Goes straight up flying through the roof

At melee

[stone panther]

Why? It's not like trio's now need to hit 45 different piles to all finish 1 single quest or anything

[grizzled citrus]

the mist you can just stand in the door with your toes touching the arena and mist cant hit you

[mental tulip]

Those are like the most cancer classes 😂

[charred veldt]

Thanks for the info

Appreciate it

[wicked spear]

i kno ball

[charred veldt]

Still the point s tands

[mental tulip]

That you do 😂

[charred veldt]

I can solo banshee with squire easily

[grizzled citrus]

np. its perfect for healing while shes fartin around

[charred veldt]

But lava colossus is almost impossible without a stack of meds, ultra instinct or a full caster lock kit

would have rathered they made small platform islands around the arena

[keen pecan]

me: I guess ill hop on for some late night arena matches

DND: NOPE

[charred veldt]

where you could jump and stay there for 5 seconds until they crumbled and rise after a cooldown

then go back to the main arena

[past compass]

guess what they just increased the difficulty of

[charred veldt]

yeah I read

that's why im complaining

deadass hardest boss in the game

right now

[past compass]

it is I agree

[charred veldt]

you can literally solo all the other bosses in squire

[past compass]

the boss doesn't make any fucking sense frankly

[charred veldt]

in HR

[mental tulip]

Bossing in this game is boring, it’s all about the hunt of the players

[past compass]

when bossing, you will almost certainly fight players

[charred veldt]

I did bladehand, stingray (got a trident the other day), spectral, banshee, GK, wyvern

I didn't do HR warlord or lich yet but I just need a bit more practice on warlord and for lich...

I could just deadass pull my lock out

[low salmon]

bard buff when

[charred veldt]

with hellfire

I think

[past compass]

I have done every boss in the game and the fire colossus is by far the cringiest boss

[lavish oar]

maintenance ?

[charred veldt]

They should add

New songs for bard

[tropic pendant]

flamewalker and phantom

[past compass]

actually I haven't done bladehand

[charred veldt]

That works too

[mental tulip]

Good idea, I’ll go PVP people who are bossing when the server comes back up.

[charred veldt]

Imagine the new song for bard:

[tropic pendant]

I find hellfire dangerous, if your doing the circle strat

[past compass]

you may even pull an artifact from them

[tropic pendant]

you sometimes walk into it

lol

[past compass]

the key is to send another one and the first disappears

[charred veldt]

"Reduces all incoming damage by 3" 60 second duration

for the lyre

like some perseverance for DoT

[tropic pendant]

Ive done this, then get purple, and dont have enough time to full heal

lol

[charred veldt]

or a huge buff to chorale of clarity

to make it like 2/3rds of a campfire, also to scale with the target's knowledge

[inner terrace]

Please give a way to "un-equip" your current spell so wizards can parry with their weapons-_- Someone speak some reason to them!

A keybind would be AWESOME to un-equip your spells.

[charred veldt]

And also gives 100% cooldown reduction bonus while laying down with the buff

[dense grove]

oh i just saw that we need to wait 3 hours ://////

[past compass]

brother it sounds like you were gonna die anyway then if your options were eat your own hellfire or cast and die to ring, just had to have pots and curses ticking I guess man

[fresh bear]

W patch?

[charred veldt]

like for fighters or barbs to get cooldowns faster while sitting down, so it's not only useful for spell casters

[dense grove]

hell yea bro barb nerf sorc buff

[charred veldt]

Yeah

[dense grove]

soloq playable now

[tropic pendant]

It was this, didnt have a curse up or healpot ticking

[dense grove]

no more brainless barbs

[charred veldt]

I have a slight issue with the boss changes but

W patch overall

[fresh bear]

barb nerf is huge and i like the changes they made to most of the items

[tropic pendant]

But it was kinda bullshit, i saw full hp, game said otherwise

bad luck methinks

[fresh bear]

but sorc buff is crazy to me personally

[charred veldt]

Sending SDF to work on another game was a good idea

[tropic pendant]

servertick bullshi

[charred veldt]

Sorc got the base kit spell merge

And DoT buffs

[past compass]

one of the archers could have hit you at the same time

[charred veldt]

Nothing toxic

[signal pawn]

am i reading this shi right servers are down for 3 hours???

[fresh bear]

sorc needs to be optimized so we stop seeing the same 5-6 spells, but a buff seems weird to me

[dense grove]

he needed that tho

[tropic pendant]

yeah lol

[charred veldt]

They didn't buff the burst

[dense grove]

was worst class

[charred veldt]

in fact it got nerfed harshly for burst

[past compass]

I think everything they just gave to sorc is perfectly fine

[charred veldt]

the wall of fire is an actual wall of fire instead of a wide eruption

[past compass]

finally

[elfin fern]

a ranged shield for bard or something to help them ignore purge shot

replied to wrong comment

[fresh bear]

yeah agreed

[long hornet]

It’s nothing too crazy. Sorc already got 3 nerfs this wipe

[tropic pendant]

agreed, but them merging manaflo / spellmerge

[fresh bear]

i like the fire wall\ changes

[tropic pendant]

is a big ass buff

[dense grove]

yeah i think hes playable now just dont buff him dont nerf him hes balanced rn

[past compass]

agreed

I don't think sorc needs anything at all

bard needs some help tho ngl

[tropic pendant]

flamethrower viable now?

[long hornet]

It’s good sometimes bad sometimes

[long hornet]

Hitbox is ass

[past compass]

range is so bad that until they increase then it just won't be

[dense grove]

yes

[charred veldt]

I'd also like if they added a new bard song that increased luck by 75 to all party members for 60 seconds on 3 memory and then fix luck

[elfin fern]

flamethrower should just be pve or low hp finishing qol. lightning bolt is already that last part but it's a homing attack and therefore dumb and should be removed

[tardy willow]

sorcerer 🙏

[long hornet]

Bard is hard to balance, you can already do everything pretty much with songs

[dense grove]

i just want one more thing remove invis potion bro i had enough dying to invis landminers

[past compass]

every ranger has purge shot and in arenas it is actual hell

in dungeon bard is kinda fine in solos and duos

[tropic pendant]

Legit why i always run spell pred

Bards HATE ME

[past compass]

in trios why would you even have one since there are so many other classes that give more value

[charred veldt]

They can just give bard QoL buffs

Not for fighting but for other things

[dense grove]

agree

[charred veldt]

Like a chorale of clarity big buff

[tardy willow]

ya i havent played this arena season but i remember it being genuine hell and impossible to peak if the other side had a longbow ranger

[charred veldt]

Or a demon/undead damage reduction/bonus song

[tropic pendant]

longbow fighter

[past compass]

it is a legitimate nightmare, bard is borderline useless in arenas and I almost never see one in my games

[tropic pendant]

its just hell man

[charred veldt]

For team with relatively low durations and somewhat high memory costs (like aleggro)

[feral karma]

??? Bard is fun

[tropic pendant]

The timer in solo should be incresed?

[elfin fern]

bard is really in many ways the base of what all the other classes should be

environment doesn't feel too shit to clear
loot is easy and quick
bosses are still sponges but not nearly as bad as on lower damage classes

i would like to see far more situational music playing, and for our base 5 songs to be integrated

[past compass]

you're trippin

[charred veldt]

I'm main bard

[long hornet]

Wouldn’t say every. Purge helps the most vs classes you barely see

[charred veldt]

In arenas I sometimes play but

[azure helm]

what map did they increase the time for?

[feral karma]

I have fun playing with capped mdr and pdr.

[charred veldt]

I often get playing allegro and supporting

[tardy willow]

its the main thing scaring me to come back to get veteran, but sorc got that big buff so i might

[dense grove]

bard in arena is bad but in hr hes one of the best

[charred veldt]

I don't have the best of results in arena though

For mob clearing it's the best class

as it can increase your team's melee output against pve around 60%

[dense grove]

i think sorc better at pve clearing

[severe coyote]

zero bard changes makes me sad.

[charred veldt]

Uhhh I gotta disagree

[coarse falcon]

Who is dying to barbs that you keep nerfing them 🤣

[misty schooner]

do we know how long servers are down for

[dense grove]

%90 of the playerbase?

[slow drum]

i think 99% of the playerbase die into buffball barb

XDDDDDDDDDD

[elfin fern]

what changes do you want to see?

[feral karma]

Are you really pretending reckless should two hit a capped pdr fighter?

[tardy willow]

reckless barb and purge shot running the game thank god for barb nerfs

[charred veldt]

Chorale of clarity giga buff

And als othat thing they did to the wizard's hat

[dense grove]

i mean squire barb can kill epic bis rogue easly

[charred veldt]

We need it on our knowledge hat for bards

[elfin fern]

rogues should be giga squishy though

[coarse falcon]

Dying to barbs is for children

[charred veldt]

and a song to mimic perseverance maybe, would make the lava colossus slightly more bearable

and a song to get undead/demon damage reduction

"Balad of the Heroes" or something idk

"Sonnata of Warding"

[dense grove]

squire barb still can 3 shot every class except fighter and barb so

[gloomy crescent]

wiz buffs when

[coarse falcon]

Y’all are delusional an armor pen rogue can 3 tap PDR fighter with a dagger…

[dense grove]

u mean nerfs?

[gloomy crescent]

true

[feral karma]

That souldn't happen either and should be sorted.

[elfin fern]

dont get me wrong i hate barbs but i hate rogues more

[gloomy crescent]

nah buffs can u read?

[feral karma]

TTK is far too fast across the board.

[inner terrace]

Give us the ability to un-equip a spell, and more SPELLS is what I want

[dense grove]

nah bro u right im thinking in the same way

[dense grove]

u want buff for best class in the game?

[gloomy crescent]

u literally play fighter - stop rage baiting

[feral karma]

#wizard message

[charred veldt]

wiz got the bard problem

[mossy vessel]

if they headshot you with ambush

[dense grove]

nope i have max 2 3 hours on fighter

[charred veldt]

crazy good in trios

lacking in solos

except for bard it's more like "Extremely strong in a duel" if they buff slightly anything

[dense grove]

im just trying to be objective

[gloomy crescent]

can't even win on fighter lol

[elfin fern]

integrate charismatic performance and give bard a version of robust (the perk) that nerfs its group buffs

[dense grove]

nah thats skill issue

[charred veldt]

whut

[gloomy crescent]

maybe you should get good before telling others what should be nerfed pal

[feral karma]

All things aside I like seeing things get integrated, hope to see more perks integrated.

[charred veldt]

how you mean "that nerfs its group buffs"

and robust increases HP by 15% what it has to do with bard 🤔 ?

[inner terrace]

That on Multiclassing went Haaard

[charred veldt]

I mean charismatic performance is a must have on bards but, i'm not sure base kit

[dense grove]

idk bro u are the one who wanting buff for the best class in the game

[elfin fern]

"you want to stay alive? your buff duration/effectiveness on allies is cut"

[charred veldt]

That'd be CRAZY in solos

[unique locust]

this is just a literal barb nerf patch

[gloomy crescent]

you literally have 2 hours on the game bro HAHAHA

[long hornet]

Finally

[charred veldt]

no in fact in everything it'd be crazy

unless you playing a team bard it's like 20 HP for free

[dense grove]

haha

[long hornet]

Wonder if dwarf ranger will be worth it now. Ms was dog before anyway

[dense grove]

best in trios best in duos best in arena but not that good in solos i agree with this

[charred veldt]

the other only 2 buffs you realistically give allies is 2 all atts and the 3 weapon damage

[elfin fern]

that's my point, something to give it a leg up in solos if its truly lacking

[charred veldt]

It's not really lacking

It's not in the best spot but ale bard is good right now

[slim tulip]

Everyone fucking dies to Longbow ranger.

IRONMACE "YEAH LET'S FUCKING NERF BARBARIAN TO THE GROUND THAT WILL FIX IT"

[long hornet]

Bard was too good in trios, that’s why it’s at its current state

[charred veldt]

I'd like if they buffed QoL for bard

[dense grove]

im gonna play dwarf sorc

[elfin fern]

if one build that gives you healing factor is mandatory then the class is in a bad spot

[charred veldt]

for PvE stuffs

[long hornet]

Barb has more warlords than Ranger

[fresh bear]

barbarian has been overtuned for the longest time

[honest echo]

people still play this game?

[long hornet]

^^

[charred veldt]

I mean you can argue for warlock that

[dense grove]

long bow already get nerf bro they need to nerf his perks

[long hornet]

Barb has been insanely broken for many wipes

[dense grove]

since s1 never been bad

[elfin fern]

they at least removed the bullshit recoverable hp heal so that's nice, but i still see caster locks everywhere in hr

[charred veldt]

I mean

The only thing they removed is that they need to drink pots

or close a door in your face and hydrain to get to full

I don't even play that kind of warlock anymore

If I hop in warlock

I go straight evil build

[long hornet]

Which means you lose out on 2 spell slots for it and lose uptime for healing pots

Still strong but got some nerfs

[charred veldt]

Dark offering burst

[long hornet]

Dark offering didn’t need that buff recently ngl

[charred veldt]

2 shotting a barb with iron will is never boring

[wise turret]

I wonder how much ice damage glaciate is gonna do with this update, melee sorc might be viable

[dense grove]

fr

[hexed root]

Extend ARENA!!!!! #arenasunday

[inner terrace]

Why is no wizard talking about not being able to parry with a spell equiped? Why can't we parry too!?!??! Give me a keybind to un-equip spells.

[dense grove]

dont get your hopes up

[charred veldt]

bruh

I mean

I get a block button

[long hornet]

Melee sorc is always good vs some classes. You get ontop a squishy with weapon out and slowing action speed they just die

[charred veldt]

But a parry might be too much

For the books and crystal ball I mean

[inner terrace]

No dude, You have nooo idea what I mean

[charred veldt]

I like the idea for crystal swords if you have spells equiped

You don't want to know what's going to happen if they put a "parry" on a book

And I reckon you'll be the first one back here complaining

About that one certain item

[inner terrace]

Not putting parry on anything, Making it so my character un-selects any spell in the game, So I can block with something like the crystal sword.

[long hornet]

I remember when disarm would disarm book lmao

Shit was aids

[charred veldt]

Oh yeah that's good

also for attacking in 10 spell builds

a button to unbind all selected spells

Or not a button

the middle of the spells

[elder sandal]

they nerf everything except bardiche 2 shotting players in the head and pdr halberd fighters lmao and they wonder why no one plays :insert clown emoji:

[inner terrace]

Spectral, Warlord, Sooo much easier with a parry.

[charred veldt]

could be used for that

[long hornet]

Barbs just got nerfed…

Lot of that was bc of the abilities and perks. That got nerfed

[charred veldt]

I mean

[dense grove]

true

[charred veldt]

for the abilities that were nerfed

they made sense

[long hornet]

Barb will still be insane and ez mode

[charred veldt]

aside from rage and reckless

I mean the timer on the abilities

[dense grove]

no more 15 strenght 15 vig

[long hornet]

Just a tiny bit of brain power

[charred veldt]

like clerics and smite

so other classes can bait the abilities and re engage

[long hornet]

Rage doesn’t give vig anymore, and the phys bonus per 10% we to 2 instead of 3

[charred veldt]

instead of running around trying to make the barb miss the swing

I mean

I'm not sure about the calc

But might be better in the long run

If the damage you took from rage is greater than the value of the 15 vig maybe it's not as bad as y'all think

[long hornet]

10% less phys potential, 15 less vigor, abilities on timers, at least it’s a step in the right direction. Will still do about the same damage. Just less tanky

[charred veldt]

Also maybe it was so rage wasn't as good against casters

[long hornet]

Until streamers say barbs are bad, they’ll still be everywhere. Especially while iron will and potion chugger exist

[charred veldt]

Because the downside of taking more physical damage was lost on magic damage

[cold prism]

why not hotfix at 4am i just got off work to a maintenance announcement T_T

[elfin fern]

and morale boost, dont forget the morale boost

[long hornet]

It’s a class that lets you play bad and still win. Why that even exists is kinda dumb fr

[elder sandal]

yeah these barb nerfs are placebo af they still gonna run players down lmao what a joke

[elfin fern]

baby the casuals

[tame elbow]

the sling keeps being useless

[long hornet]

Which is fine, until the veterans abuse it

[long hornet]

A meta where clerics hide to just sling would be dumb af. Needs to be half useless honestly

[elder sandal]

I bet theyll give it an emberskin

[junior lynx]

why the players are leaving 1 month after the wipe? Always starting strong and after 1 month it's 4-6k online only...

[lethal anchor]

so the dwarf skin gets 10 HDR while still having a helmet??? thats stupid OP

[elfin fern]

yeah wtf if anything blud should have less hp

[wicked spear]

-10ms

[elfin fern]

shorter and harder to hit

[spare ridge]

did anyone think sorc needed to be buffed?

[wicked spear]

cdr reduc needs to be increased on sorc

[white sequoia]

Wait so Dwarf and Dwarfer now?

[inner terrace]

Gotta drive them sales some how

[dense grove]

ofc bro was worst class in the game

[inner terrace]

I always laughed at the fact that... Theres no Distinction between Magicial headshot damage, and physical headshot damage. Its just straight up headshot damage. MAKES 0 sense to me but ya know.

[lethal anchor]

Yeah I can imagine the full plate fighters running around being impossible to hit with the heater the same size as them and now their headshot reduction is going to be almost 40 with a topfhelm XD

[dense grove]

even in arena sorc is the only class without warlord

[long hornet]

They already start at -6% cdr, you want it increased? lol

[dense grove]

they nerf -25% cdr so

[long hornet]

Wait. I just realized that. Why tf buff helmets, and buff a race to give pdr. Headshots are suppose to be skill shots, making full pdr crutch even easier is wild

[lethal anchor]

BROOOO if you can have that extra 10 percent HDR while still using a helmet that means that DEMON LOCK will be MORE OP than it already is

Spamming bolts while having 40 HDR XDDD

[tulip arch]

id assume because its the same?..

[long hornet]

It’ll prob be the new barb

[lethal anchor]

From the videos I’ve been seeing it already is

[slow salmon]

Why did sorc get buffed?

[lethal anchor]

40 HDR dwarf perm demon lock with 17 mag heal XDDDD

[elfin fern]

at least barb couldnt machine gun bolts at you

[dense grove]

🤨

[tulip arch]

he didnt really get buffed?

[slow salmon]

Why did they nerf rogue again?

[tulip arch]

better question is why wasnt ranger nerfed

[slow salmon]

Oh I can agree with that.

[dense grove]

yea thats really better question

[tulip arch]

im hoping there close to nerfing ranger

there making actually decent changes right now

i cant complain with a majority of it

[dense grove]

they finally listening players

[slow salmon]

Im hoping they're close to buffing rogue and giving him the ability to be anything other than trash. I also like a lot of the slow changes their making except the agility nerf which was over-nerfed. I think a good 15% instead of 25% would have been spot on

[long hornet]

Ranger just got nerfed and pdr got buffed

Headshot ‘

[tulip arch]

howd ranger get nerfed

[long hornet]

Less armor pen less longbow damage

[slow salmon]

Ranger is such an easy mode class that it should get a damage nerf. Shouldnt be 1/2-1/3rd HP drops with single shots.

[long hornet]

Was last patch

[tulip arch]

that effects everyone btw

and barely did anything to ranger

[mortal talon]

The ember flame skin should be a whole bundle

[tulip arch]

effects fighters and bards more then ranger 😭

[slow salmon]

oooh good idea

[long hornet]

Fireball does half hp. Ele bolt does half hp. Fighter crossbow does half hp.

[fleet surge]

Buff rat 🐀

[slow salmon]

Takes skill and cant spam

[tulip arch]

buff penguin 🐧

[slow salmon]

ALSO, ele bolt 1 taps squishies, so I can agree its overtuned.

[long hornet]

Ele bolt, yes, fire ball no

Fireball needs more nerfs

[fleet surge]

Im trying to bite some ankles

[tulip arch]

im tryna spit in some mouths

[slow salmon]

Fireball is limited in quantity. If you're dying to it, you're out of position.

[tulip arch]

6 fireballs used in 0.00000000001 seconds directly into my toes

[slow salmon]

I dun like wizzies but I dont have trouble with them.

[long hornet]

Arrows before reloading is limited in quantity. If you don’t position to engage during reload, you’re out of position

Your logic doesn’t make much sense lol

[slow salmon]

Ranger is the easiest class in the game

You literally stand back and shoot

[long hornet]

I’ve played every class, don’t agree with that

[slow salmon]

Lower skill cap = lower damage.

[tulip arch]

wizards either win the fight instantly or lose. (or they have good teamates)

[long hornet]

Barb is by far the easiest, followed by fighter fr fr

[slow salmon]

Well, we all have differnt talents so I can't say it's the easiest for you but subjectively its the easiest

[lethal anchor]

can now update blacksmith!!

[tulip arch]

barb can suck against good people

[slow salmon]

Barb walk in, barb die to rogue

[lean gust]

no it isnt, druid is the easierest

[slow salmon]

If you miss 2 times on barb, you're dead.

[tulip arch]

ranger has no class its bad against

[slow salmon]

If you miss 2 times on ranger, you backstep while shooting.

[long hornet]

Backstep is bad most of the time

[tulip arch]

yea backsteps dog

[long hornet]

No one uses it without 2 charges

[slow salmon]

Oh yeah im glad they nerfed it.

[fleet surge]

Buff rat 🐀

[long hornet]

The range is also less and you move slower with the air changes this wipe

[tulip arch]

better to just pull out the shotty on them if there so close

[long hornet]

Shitty buggy sometimes too fr

[slow salmon]

The Shotty. Yes. Also that. A built in rogue counter.

[long hornet]

Anyone good just backs up, your arrows can also just go through them

Rogue counters pretty much everyone rn. They need nerfs badly

It’s hella ez mode

[slow salmon]

True that.

Rogue counters bad players.

[tulip arch]

rogue either wins instantly or.. dies instantly

[slow salmon]

If you die to rogue this season, you're bad.

[tulip arch]

literally no inbetween i swear

[slow salmon]

Lower damage, lower armor pen, lower movement speed, lower HP.

[tulip arch]

unless they do nothing all game and run around doing 2 damage a minute

[slow salmon]

Lower literally everything than last season.

[long hornet]

Rogue gets value and Denys space by just existing

That alone is valuable af

[slow salmon]

So does a barb

so does a cleric thats bonk

only they can punish

rogue 17dmg per hit so good

[long hornet]

You still push against a barb

Rogue 2 or 3 hits literally everyone what

[slow salmon]

Rogue doesnt 2 hit anyone.

[long hornet]

If you’re not 3 shotting every class as rogue your build is wrong

[slow salmon]

Rogue can 3 hit you if you're squishy and 4 hit you if you're not.

[tame elbow]

server down still?

[slow salmon]

YEAH DOWN STILL

[feral karma]

You can literally 2-3 hit classes in arena, lol.

[slow salmon]

Rogue doesn't 2 hit anyone. Maybe wizard.

[green beacon]

servers is up, i'm in

try again

[long hornet]

A half decent rogue just shits on everyone

[feral karma]

#wizard message

[autumn juniper]

2 gold chests say time gets extended again bc theyre 4ggts

[feral karma]

Are you joking

[long hornet]

Rogue is genuinely easy mode if you know how to position

[lean crown]

imma hold u to ts

[slow salmon]

Ranger e z mode.

But lets all agree

[severe coyote]

[insert class name] is genuinely easy mode if you know how to position.

[autumn juniper]

hold it write it down take a picture idgaf

[slow salmon]

Warlock so boring.

[long hornet]

I’d rather play rogue than ranger anyday lol

[slow salmon]

Id rather play ranger than rogue.

We have different skill sets.

[white sequoia]

Whoa these are some hot takes

[long hornet]

If you think rogue is harder than ranger… idk how much skill sets you have

[lean crown]

running LarpLock after playing a diff class lowkey is fun in norms

[tulip arch]

rogue is just a riskier ranger

[long hornet]

Rogue is way safer. Disappearing is the most broken thing in every game

[tulip arch]

invis pot

btw

[long hornet]

You can’t move

It’s different

[lean crown]

if a rogue is catching u w landmine then u might need to lock in

like the most telegraphed play

[long hornet]

We’re talking about arenas, regular mode is different

[slow salmon]

You said ranger was hard and balanced bro come on.

[long hornet]

Arenas lot of chaos and sound

[lean crown]

are u unaware of ur backside in arenas?

[slow salmon]

Any team that dies to a rogue is blind and silly.

If you die to rogue this season you need to call a hero or whatever its called.

[tulip arch]

a rogue can be touched if you have teamwork

[slow salmon]

Start fresh

[long hornet]

Rogue has more warlords than multiple other classes lmao

So the best players in the game are bad?

[lean crown]

Oh here we go

[severe coyote]

definitely a strong season for rogue, not sure what joohhnnceennaa is on about

[slow salmon]

Reading comprehension not your strong suit I see.

[nova quest]

Rogue is not weak but as a ranger you really shouldn't be getting owned by rogues

[long hornet]

This wasn’t a ranger vs rogue pissing contest he went down that rabbit hole

[slow salmon]

HE

[long hornet]

Just said rogue is insane rn, bc it is. The damage is nuts and easy to close in on people

[slow salmon]

Rogue is the weakest its been in the last proll 5 seasons.

If you're getting owned, you're bad.

[long hornet]

Rogue is safer than most classes, and out damages most classes

[slow salmon]

Simple.

[elfin fern]

this is bait

[slow salmon]

Patch notes dont lie baby

Go read em

[lean crown]

rogue is not bad, but to get outplayed by hide plays in arena sounds foreign to me

[long hornet]

Ah yes. The weak class performs better than many other classes in arena. You sure are smart

[tulip arch]

if a rogue plays safe they wont do much damage

[fiery rover]

are we still getting rogue and ranger changes this month?

[tame elbow]

anyone in? or still down servers