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thorny cape
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still probably worth it though

pliant valley
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covid inflation still happening

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gg on making $20 at mcdonalds now

north portal
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is dark and darker just unplayable now? i have a lower-end pc and lately the game stutters so much in pvp I can't enjoy the game. Anyone else having issues like this?

pliant valley
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try lowering the rendering distance to 50 or so

north portal
pliant valley
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yea, that's been happening a lil bit this season

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maybe a different server might help

old shoal
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is there a way to make it so anyone can whisper me in game?

pliant valley
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i think so if they know ur name

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idk honestly i'm guessing

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what is marvelous chest? is the like in the boss room?

pallid hemlock
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lmao what??

jovial bluff
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What’s delirium worth?

vapid oyster
jovial bluff
steel jolt
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is game good again?

magic current
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is this game good again?

magic current
vestal silo
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why are prices on bags going down so fast?

pliant valley
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idk, but it's nice, don't tell everyone

vestal silo
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troll pelt dupe?

steel jolt
magic current
edgy sable
steel jolt
magic current
steel jolt
magic current
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Is this game good again?

edgy sable
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only you can determine that

steel jolt
# magic current no.

I mean no shit I mean this game when I put it in game discussion for only dark and darker

magic current
steel jolt
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and find someone who cares

magic current
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Angry boy lmao

thorny cape
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im not good at pvp, how should i make gold lmao

feral bloom
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is there any mobs in fire deep that can drop smth thats worth anything like centaur tail or smth? just wondering if there is anything worth going for other than the boss

feral bloom
pliant valley
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LUL LOLOL I love it! Some jerk just jumped my while i had a shark and piranha on me, then he got killed by them! LOLOL

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Lol, The Dark grows Darker

edgy sable
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Yea really satisfying withe mobs avenge you

pliant valley
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Lol, indeed

hushed ravine
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Anyone else have an issue where hte match starts but you are still on lobby and cant cancel queue?

pliant valley
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no, but i have had a couple random teams with one person not loading in

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prob happened to them

hushed ravine
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huh, its happened to my friend and I like 9x, and I remember this issue was happening before too when we played in s2 and 3

north portal
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asking again if anyone else is having fps stuttering really bad this season

hushed ravine
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i have to relaunch the game to actually get into the lobby otherwise i sit stuck in queue forever and once i waited 1hr and then lost everything when i relaunched

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because the match had already ended, feelsbad

fallow blaze
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but they do happen

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5090 not enough

north portal
molten granite
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Alright, first time back in forever. Was in a match, started attacking a ranger but he didnt seem to take any damage

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Any ideas what gives?

west wadi
north portal
edgy sable
north portal
jagged thunder
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Does dark offer kill you with lament?

pliant valley
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i just sold my squire gloves Bloodwoven Gloves for 8g to the armourer...

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i thought all squire gear sold for 0

sturdy coral
vagrant fulcrum
north portal
worthy flax
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is it really too much to ask to fix the damn crashing issue that mostly happens mid fights

viscid palm
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killed the cockatrice 20 times to get the feather

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and the quest still dosnt give your loot back

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in the goblin merchant

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why

worthy flax
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i've killed cockatrice around 130-140 times now and no feather with 400 luck

viscid palm
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PEICE OF SHIT DEV TEAM

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your doing the quest for no reason bro

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dont give you anymore loot back in the merchant than before you just grinding that stupid bird

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STUPID

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dev team

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barbarian knowlege stat dev team

worthy flax
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i bet the crash happened because the day switched. so frikkin great buying all my crap back for 10+k each time this shit happens

viscid palm
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i just tested it out in high roller

viscid palm
worthy flax
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b4 i've had that high luck it has only dropped me an egg once through the entirety of maybe 300 cockatrice

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not a single feather

deep helm
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@glad thunder @zinc sparrow make getting 225 affinity actual worth something

worthy flax
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but still the main issue for me in the game is the damn crashing

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they dont happen too often but this one happened exactly the same time the day switched so new dailies etc stuff happens

viscid palm
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yea you lag or crash due to the servers being garbage and your not compensated at all

worthy flax
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and during that i happened to be fighting

viscid palm
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lets talk about the teamers you guys getting teamed on or wht

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my homie got 10 guys banned for teaming this week 0 compensation

deep helm
viscid palm
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absolutely rediculous working man comes home from a 12 hour shift takes him 2 days of playing to build a HR kit and he dies to teamers and gets no compensation

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nah hes not

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not at all hes got like 10 minutes of footage tho

foggy turtle
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anyone figure out why nvidia game filters shut off mid game? reinstalled the last drivers still nothing. sometimes they will last a game or two, mostly just kick off first 2 min into a game. gotta restart the game to get them back on for another 2 min =/

deep helm
viscid palm
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on my MOTHERS LIFE for some reason the game chat didnt clip but the game audio did weirdest bug ever

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this guys in game chat talking about "sdf dosnt care its a week ban im gonna keep teaming"

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absolutely ridiculous i havent been playing solos myself but my homie has been teamed on countless time takes his time to get them banned no compensation and its a temp ban on repeat offenders

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these guys are getting TEMP BANNED

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WHY

thorny cape
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does the banshee even drop anything unique or no

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no as in like the rarity or

vagrant fulcrum
thorny cape
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ive killed her about 20 times now and havnt found one

worthy flax
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great, right after the crash and i bought my gear back, the frikkin freezes for few second mid boss so obviously im dead again

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this game is so fucking bullshit

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another 10+k to just throw away

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some mofo making shitton of money from me buying all their pickaxes

kind shoal
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@foggy turtlemine do the same thing im wondering why for ages

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finally someone who shares my pain

foggy turtle
elfin fern
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take water map out of squires

primal radish
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does luck work now?

lapis quest
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^ with proof

thorny cape
zenith bramble
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Just got my first chest, someone know how much is worth, should i keep it or sell it?

worthy flax
mighty aurora
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I did see that it DOES work on trees from r/darkanddarker but I’ve seen nothing about the other loot tables

zenith bramble
humble spade
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How much is Gold chest going for now a days?

bright garnet
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@devout bramble shit on

sonic maple
elfin oyster
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how much is a db

jovial bluff
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Someone please answer me fast

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Is the room in crypts that’s like coliseum

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Does the room on top need a rusty or gold key?

icy pond
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Dear @blissful dirge @little summit,

Please add memory capacity jewelery to the squire.

There can be others of a meme-teir too such as +Spell Recovery Bonus and +Health Recovery Bonus, but there MUST be more access to memory capacity, because not being able to attain spell memory in squire kit is a massive oversight that prevents healing archtype, spellslinger archtype, support bard archtype, etc, all from even engaging in the base-level squires game. period.

not to mention how unfair this skews your stats regarding week 1&2 self found modes; where due to squire insufficiency, these teams cannot even exist at all in the base game.

IMO tools such as clarity potion and a second campfire should also be available in the base kit, to support these builds. squires teams need supports and healers and it is not fair that we can not even build sufficient caster kits until quest sets 4/5, which only come out much later in the game.

not to even mention my second teir of concerns for other (lesser) edge cases, such as melee clerics (morningstar missing), rangers/druids (spear missing), pdr/shield fighters and warlocks (plate armor missing), etc. key elements which allow varities of players beyond "W+M1" barbarians, to form teams, show up in your data, & pariticpate in playing the game.

and before all the haters pile on, if fighter's or barbarian's Q or E abilities for example, were also locked behind "10/20 memory capacity required", there would be riots. it's the worst most discriminatory stat in the game. Setting memory capacity free will only improve everything. And having it on basic, gray quality jewelery, would not even affect the market.

also, having healers and having supports in queue would also help EVERYBODY succeed more in the dungeon.

Anywho, continue to ignore 1/3 your (healer, support, and caster) player base at your own peril, as this is only one of many oversights that are corrupting your 'data'.

Thank you all and have a good day.

mighty aurora
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We should have +3 all jewelry for squire gear

icy pond
icy pond
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and clearing it should disable new teams spawning 👍

mighty aurora
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Every class should have a passive +3 all applied to them, besides bard they get +6

icy pond
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bard can have +6.9

pliant valley
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mmmm, chocolate satin pie

wicked parrot
near pulsar
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Is arena gonna have a week where u can use names?

green trout
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how do i become a pro bard

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new player here

kind shoal
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@green trout play the game

fringe surge
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does named come out of pile under wyvern?

mighty aurora
# green trout how do i become a pro bard

Go for high dexterity and look up a guide on starting gear/music, play with that for a while, the long and short of Bard is that you want to buff yourself as much as possible and secure win conditions since an even fight with an enemy will generally result in a loss unless you’re cracked with buckler or parrying

near pulsar
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Anyone know if there doing artifacts in arena this wipe?

mighty aurora
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Usually you want to try and hit the enemy with a crossbow or survival bow shot while getting a debuff off, 2 is unlikely but if you do that’ll help, and as you get better at blocking and the combat system in the game you can do riskier plays, but you can’t do that unless you go in the dungeons more

near pulsar
south zodiac
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lol

mighty aurora
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Oh and drum with reinforced instruments is a bomb

subtle goblet
green trout
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i alway end up throwing my drum on accident lol

gentle remnant
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If you have goblin merch max do you get everything back?

gusty sandal
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is there another dupe glitch? everything on market dropped insanely

tardy mural
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does penetration take off a flat % of reduction or a % of their reduction?

quasi juniper
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are shields broken again? this guys longsword went through my shield twice

wraith robin
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Action speed is broken, cuz you can't react with the MS from server. The time he swing and u want ot block the sword already hit u

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Thats why people play 2 hand

quasi juniper
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I was already blocking before his swing went through like way before

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and on my end his sword went through the center of the shield

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i did that to mobs too

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hit their sield and my rapier went through it and did dmg

wraith robin
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Ok idk then

quasi juniper
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yeah im assuming its some bug right now

thin patio
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Add custom arena matches so I can 1v1 my trashcan duo

green trout
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queues are so long

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longer than tarkov

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bro the game spawns me in front of a yeti

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instant death

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and like 4 other enemies

west wadi
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Also dragging

subtle heart
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Spectral fabrics are only 9k now?

pliant valley
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market is crashing

green trout
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trio fill takes years

polar talon
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Druid LFG HR

subtle heart
polar talon
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i dont have lfg on this discord i dont know why

subtle heart
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In other wipes?

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I don’t want to sound narcissistic but I was spreading misinformation about how I was getting 5 spectral fabrics a day and it was just a matter of trying and it might have spread though word of mouth lol idk.

fading elk
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Does magical power scale with Viola? or only demons glee

fading elk
west wadi
# fading elk ty

Anything with a parentheses means it scales followed by DMG type

fading elk
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That helps alot thank you

tardy mural
# fading elk Does magical power scale with Viola? or only demons glee

it has 100% scaling with 10 ice magic damage. Which means if you actually build Mpower you can get more out of it than demons glee, which is +1 magic damage so it would scale better with only +1 add magic.

(of course you would still want to build add magic with the viola. idk if you'd want to commit all available + to it though.. as I do not know the proper builds)

drowsy gorge
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Surprising Void Blade is being turned into a Legendary but getting no changes to it's stats

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It's basically Demon's Glee but longsword right?

nocturne hound
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cant wear northern half tunic on slayer fighter even tho its leather?

drowsy gorge
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I thought that was barbarian only

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Or is it not

nocturne hound
drowsy gorge
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Okay then yea

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that's a bug

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Time to get out the boot

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And the megaphone

nocturne hound
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yessir

midnight drum
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if i die in pve do i get my stuff back from gob merchant? the whole kit?

cosmic sparrow
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Is it just me or has the long sword fallen so far from grace like the weapon with the most skill expression has been nerfed repeatedly while the weapon was not even preforming well it baffles me how many stupid decisions this team has made over the years not to mention the countless bugs just to name a few atm.
-Infinite Que bug
-Luck being broken
-Ghost king visual bug
-Throwing weapon delayed animation
-Harpy Looting bug
-Cant exit bug
-Halberd Green zone bug
-Shield bugs
-Squire Quests being bugged

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD FIX THIS
or in lucks case just temp remove the roll and reroll effected stat lines

sudden idol
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I second the guy about the shield bug issue, seen it earlier I have had my shield up while HR and the skeletons with shields and viking sword manage to thrust through it randomly

grave pendant
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think that gen might be a skill issue

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which shield is this happening on?

pearl birch
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anyone know when I next wipe is?

fast shore
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Prob just a skill issue

keen mauve
near quartz
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Hello

remote chasm
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does the lucky feather have a higher drop rate in HR?

wise turret
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when is PDR stat better than armor rating?

frigid sleet
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nothing can stop an iron will barb

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so nothing matters

west wadi
wise turret
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love spending 20k on a kit just to die first game to 2 teaming landmine rogues

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what a waste of time this game is, need region lock

full jacinth
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I honestly miss gear score based lobbies tbh. Just want to run norms without kitting with randoms.

wise turret
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I just want a certain region of players to stop using OCE servers for teaming and gold farming, no wonder no aussies play anymore

vague dune
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most people play this game just for profit

wise turret
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sounds like youre the racist one

full jacinth
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Eh, I stopped playing on US East because its all sweats every match.

vague dune
broken cove
vague dune
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u r right, what a sad fact it is

plucky venture
west wadi
vague dune
elfin fern
broken cove
wise turret
broken cove
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Clown

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Oh hey it isnt rn

west wadi
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clownussy

queen matrix
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when is it worth taking pure action speed instead of dexterity where is the cap ?

broken cove
languid junco
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Who drops the pincushion for navigator quest?

haughty gulch
west cove
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hey guys! im coming back after like two years and was wondering how gear score worked now? what brackets are there

subtle goblet
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i think

west cove
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whats CMM?

brittle barn
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Camgirls Master Matchmaking

subtle goblet
brittle barn
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Basically you have to have your webcam on and SDF's algorithm ranks you by looks and matches you accordingly

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The better looking, typically the easier/noobier lobbies

subtle goblet
# west cove whats CMM?

Continous matchmaking, allows for people to join games/lobbies already started by other players

brittle barn
keen mauve
untold turtle
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super geared artifact team keeps running east trios on water map

marble nest
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yo guys was wipe announced in the q and a? if so when is the final day

marble nest
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okay ty 🙂

lone heron
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does true damage have a different name or can you simply not search it on the market?

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or has it been altogether removed, all of my guides are months behind 🤦‍♀️

lone heron
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by god

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I've only ever heard about it, never played pvp in this game because I'm quite new and last I played solos got removed so

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hard to learn alone

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but the way I heard it that was a scourge on balance and they were keen to never remove it

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that's good to know

gritty sorrel
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Daggers can get true damage from rogue

dry knoll
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@strange jetty promise you the guy you playing with he is toxic asf

lone heron
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ok well every wizard guide just says "magic true damage" so what stats should I be focusing as a wizard

tacit sand
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is anyone else still having issues with connection to server with steam account?

jaunty root
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How does gear score work?

tacit sand
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i have tried to restart my pc, ive gone through compatabilities, changed my proxy, can not get it to launch on steam

tacit wing
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Ironmace Next Project + Dark and Darker commitment..... Remember when yall held the line? Ahahahahaha

tacit sand
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FACTS MAN. im jsut trying to dungeon crawl but i cant even load the dmn game

woeful plume
worldly nexus
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Graveyard gate opens early on time while Bandit Camp opens late or not at all

wanton steppe
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Hey guys I need some big help, my game is crashing everytime I start a match and theres nothing I can do.
I tried almost everything and still nothing changes

mellow igloo
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as someone who hasnt played since sorcerer came out is it better? or should i give up on the game forever

sonic maple
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The great depression of the market

lost lily
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whens wipe

vague quest
brisk mason
mellow igloo
misty schooner
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is there any classes this wipe that are op

brisk mason
marble ivy
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Dark & Darker almost beating player count of Marathon after 1 week.

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Crazy.

visual solar
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4600 is very close to 16000, yes

marble ivy
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Down from 80k. I'd say by next week you're there.

kindred spoke
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How does enemy agro work? Theres times as wizard when i go invisible and the enemies attack the player attack me but when i get out of invisisblilty the neemies ignore the enemy player and chase me again?

patent breach
faint copper
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looking at patch notes for this game always baffles me

last scroll
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Yeah same they be changing the most random stuff.

azure helm
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Does anyone know how these people are queing into duo solo? find people like this alot but wont let me do it

gritty sorrel
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Duos is a good way to do FB

azure helm
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what is FB?

gritty sorrel
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Faustian Bargain

azure helm
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also how toxic is looking for teams in the discord for lower skilled players atm i only play with my brother and some runescape friends but i have alot more time than them but i'm honestly pretty shit at the game? are people pretty flame heavy when trying to find groups? playing solo is so populated its like impossible to leave alive lol

faint copper
gritty sorrel
azure helm
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ahh yeah I guess lower skill or new players probs need to create the lobby and say hey im new or im bad wana join up?!

gritty sorrel
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I usually look for a pre existing party which has empty slots, join n ask if they mind me hopping in even though im worse at the game

spark iris
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ive been off the game for a bit got a couple questions if anybody can answer. Can more than the longsword and the shield parry now? Can I upgrade the quality of starting gear through squire quests still? What quests should I actually be focusing, like how do I unlock higher quality jewelry? stuff has changed a lot sorry for the novel

golden forge
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why treasure is so expensive on the market and why ppl are even buying ti xD

subtle goblet
gritty sorrel
gritty sorrel
golden forge
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how do u even do the dmg to player quest

gritty sorrel
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Do faustian bargain and fight players as a mob

golden forge
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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i never knew what faustian bargain states for

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makes sense

gritty sorrel
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Goblin Cave is my go to map for those quests, the goblins are good at fighting players and its easy to pretend to be a normal gobbo

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And if u get spider u can kill troll

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(u needa watch out for the downslam elsewise it cant hit spider)

timid haven
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Hey guys, I work on 2d animation and comic illustration/manga. Not trying to spam, just putting it out there in case anyone needs an Artist/Animator

worldly nexus
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How do I get high roller pve?

gritty sorrel
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That's the neat part, you don't

kindred spoke
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How does enemy agro work? Theres times as wizard when i go invisible and the enemies attack the player attack me but when i get out of invisisblilty the neemies ignore the enemy player and chase me again?

devout sapphire
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teaming

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great

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every game

gritty sorrel
golden forge
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how much is unique windlass?

pliant valley
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look it up in market

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u need to compare stats

uneven inlet
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kanichiwa fellow jewish rabbis

pliant valley
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wtf that jew said?

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u trying to say hello in japanese?

uneven inlet
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oh yes, herro

pliant valley
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herro

deep spindle
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Has no dev ever encountered an HR kitted ranger or what cus i keep getting dimension warped into counterstrike while playing this game

junior wedge
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Is Luck still broken?

steel coyote
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how do ppl lockout other people from vc?

vagrant fulcrum
hardy stump
sour plank
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Anyone else having issues the game keeps kicking out of match then trying to go back in and repeats the cycle

deep spindle
hardy stump
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got to say, I did not expected ranger to remain that insane without true dmg, but guess its much worse now with all the armor pen builds

deep spindle
hardy stump
mint kernel
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are servers fked?

deep helm
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day 3 of asking @glad thunder to make affinity above 150 worth doing

gloomy crescent
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i AM hacking the server and taking all the stinky sticks!

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Stinky stick prices will be 3 gold coin chests when im done!

gritty sorrel
deep helm
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whats the difference btween relguar interaction speed and action speed

vagrant fulcrum
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Regular interaction speed is how fast you interact with props (doors, chests, piles)
Action speed is how fast you handle your weapon (swing a sword, block)

craggy hemlock
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Yo is there some new kind of cheat or something that stops people from looting you?? I just fought a warlock, and he g ot himself killed by a skelly champ mid fight. Went to loot and it would just blink the 'loot' word and not open his inventory. Anyone seen this before?????

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Characters name was a warlock named Pressaws donno if anyone has experienced this before

young elk
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how do i log into my steam account with blacksmith launcher?

tribal zodiac
craggy hemlock
sour plank
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ANYONE ELSE'S GAMING COOKED?

steel swift
jovial wolf
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where does thorn shield drop? or is it a craftable item?

deep spindle
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they should make it so one of the primary stats also gives a little bit of projectile resist like will gives magic resist. maybe then u can actually build some PR. Yes u can buy some uniques but you are sacrificing so many stats for that. like agility or soemthing. gives people a reason to build some agi again too

twin edge
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trail depot
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does 200 affinity gob merchant retrieve whole kit if it wasn’t scooped in hr?

copper phoenix
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Anyone know the named drop rate for Warlord?

short siren
trail depot
pine hazel
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Yo

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Wich stat buff the handcannon reload speed

steel swift
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3 cheaters oce barb wiz abd cleric

pine hazel
sturdy coral
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action speed

pine hazel
sturdy coral
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yea action speed is 75% dex 25% agi

pine hazel
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Thanks for the info buddy

timid tiger
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if i use rusty in crypts it is same chance as golden?

deep helm
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i just saw a bugged spot for fire colosus where it cant hit u

timid tiger
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leak the method

deep helm
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0 idea how to do it but it was for sure a bugged spot

sturdy coral
deep helm
compact hollow
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How much echo of screams worth rn

stone panther
timid tiger
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such a shit named also

twin edge
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@sturdy coral @devout star

Firedeep - 2.67%
9 searches per search: 0.30%

Ice Abbys - 2.67%
9 searches per search: 0.30%

Inferno - 2.67%
9 searches·per search: 0.30%

Crypt - 0.90%
9 searches·per search: 0.10%

Goblin Cave - 0.45%
9 searches·per search: 0.05%

Ruins - 0.45%
9 searches·per search: 0.05%

timid tiger
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ty boss

brisk mason
timid tiger
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firedeep pile boss?

brisk mason
timid tiger
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u can arifacts there?

brisk mason
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ye

twin edge
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Firedeep pile in module - Broken Stone Bridge

brisk mason
fringe garnet
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Boss piles don't drop it, they're a different kind of hoard

brisk mason
fringe garnet
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I think the main appeal of boss pile is meant to be chests, but since keys drop both they're just better

brisk mason
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yeah the amazing 1/2000 chest

fringe garnet
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If you do get one you're set for wipe in terms of gold storage pretty much

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Just spam buy pouches afterword

brisk mason
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not rlly

fringe garnet
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I found 3 chests in one wipe before, that was a doozy

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It was when I pretty much did nothing but farm hr Warlord

twin edge
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There is just one treasure pile in Firedeep and it does drop artifacts.

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Maybe that's something IM overlooked.

brisk mason
twin edge
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It's the one with Marvelous Chest so I assume it is the one.

sour pollen
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Dynamic vibrance turning off every game makes me hella depressed

stone panther
wide wharf
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Nice lost a full kit because of this game not connecting wtf is this shit

stoic shadow
tiny moat
#

@zinc sparrow Can you guys do something about the ESP plague ? Why is this game still called DarkandDarker when in almost everygame we encouter ppl using ESP.

fringe garnet
#

is called Dark and Darker because it's dark

tiny moat
fringe garnet
stone panther
limber coral
#

Hello, how long is the queue for High roller? Do people play all the maps? Do people only play The forgotten castle?

spice violet
#

Queue becomes nearly instant :D

short siren
spiral swift
limber coral
#

What if I don't want my guts dragged across the floor by a 3 stack?

fringe garnet
short siren
short siren
limber coral
#

Jokes aside, How do people get into High roller matches? Do people normaly use the lfg or do they go solo?

tiny moat
# near kettle How do you know

When you are standing still in the darkness, you've heard someone coming before they did, you don't have pots at your belt nor a glowing skin or effect on you. And they snap straight on you or headshot you straight away. Or cast a spell straight at you. Doubts isn't rly possible

lucid socket
ashen valve
#

do yall know how many full chest a fulgor is worth 1 full or more or less ?

earnest current
#

dead game , no future

stoic socket
#

i got a PP with action speed and armor rating. how much do you think its worth. idk how the market works nowadays

stone panther
#

and those have been one for like 2 days. Don't seem to be selling much

stoic socket
#

would you say that trading it for spectrals is smart or will the value decline too fast?

stone panther
#

i'd take gold any day over spectrals now that they start freefalling

#

but that is assuming you have enough bags to store that amount of it

stoic socket
#

i dont lol

#

my storage is full rn and i have 30k

stone panther
#

try and find someone to trade for 2 full + 2 empty, lol. But expect spectrals to go down to about 15k within a week

golden forge
#

tbh just trade spectrals for chests

#

asap

stoic socket
#

how much is a chest valued in gold?

golden forge
#

impossible to say

stoic socket
#

so way more than 100k

golden forge
#

probably

#

usually its 2 artefacts for gcc

fallow path
#

Is the game in a good state rn?

golden forge
short siren
lucid socket
stone panther
#

so with current prices, around 130-140k
last week it was like 250. Recession finally hit, lol. stinky sticks finally below 20k again too.

fallow path
#

awesome thanks guys im thinking that there is a good posiblity to make strong builds etc

viral kayak
#

this shit is so stale

#

lag so bad ladders bug you out

rugged totem
#

When will the next set of quests come out? Anyone know? Pls @ me!

stone panther
rugged totem
stone panther
#

Likely. But then again.. we were al expecting that last week too, and the week before

rugged totem
#

Also guys what is the best class rn for fighting blade hand easily and efficiently? I am usually in trio so do not need to rely on solo.

Sep question - what are the best classes for solos on the water map and why?

signal pawn
#

u could do spear fighter so u can survive a few hits if u mess up

#

and best for water map is probably any class with far ranged attacks or like war maul cleric

#

in my opinion atleast

fair yacht
#

just thinking since bows/ranged are so opressive... why not buff projectile dmg reduction on helms? 1-2% is nothing

pine hazel
#

Where i can find a leather cap??

deep spindle
golden forge
pine hazel
pine hazel
deep spindle
pine hazel
#

Is common in squire to rich?

mortal talon
#

Dear ironmace, your match making is fucking trash. Do better.

pine hazel
#

Its ridiculously difficult to get

limpid brook
#

is there a way to open the basement of the stables tile in solos?

hardy stump
toxic mantle
#

shouldn't wind locket/torq be an obvious 2x their current base stat? silliness

sturdy coral
#

2x would be too good I think

pine hazel
#

at this point

#

i think its bugged

#

and the leather caps dont spawn

sturdy coral
pine hazel
sturdy coral
#

you can get any rarity of leather cap

pine hazel
#

It spawn in pve?

#

maybe its bugged on pve mode

sturdy coral
#

yeah spawns everywhere

#

crates and chests. Barrels too I think. Try goblin jail

pine hazel
#

i litt spend an hour lotting all in goblin jails

sturdy coral
#

genuinely are you looking under stuff?

#

it’s a little object it might be hidden under other things

pine hazel
#

Its bugged asf

#

theres no way that a leather cap dont spawn in 2 hours of farming

#

i got more legendary stuff than that

sturdy coral
#

lol I’m convinced you’re not looking closely enough bc like 2 runs hitting goblin jail and cave altar you can clear all those intro quests like the camp the ales the bottles leather cap etc

pine hazel
#

2:38:05 from this time

#

going directly to goblin jail

#

check all the looteable things

#

boxes, barrels

#

all types of chests

#

no 1

devout hull
pine hazel
#

Theres some channel to report bugs?

#

i saw it

grizzled citrus
pine hazel
rugged totem
#

What are the best PvP builds for water map rn? Pls @ me

pine hazel
#

Finally

wind fable
pine hazel
#

@sturdy coral

wind fable
#

in that order

pine hazel
#

An angel tell me

#

Try to buy one in the market

#

maybe it work

#

it works

#

3 hours of medieval torture

#

finally ended

sturdy coral
#

bro read the quest next time 🤣 🤣 🤣 it’ll tell you

pine hazel
#

Jesus

#

I can finally make my english grenadier build

fervent anvil
rugged totem
#

Where can I get a full inv of high value sellables without going in the water?

fervent anvil
rugged totem
#

Right but what if I’m mid and looting the chests, looting the gold piles, and killing the shark. If I’m doing that every game and that’s where I see the most ppl… what am I supposed to do…?

pine hazel
#

the arrows drop a LOT under water

fervent anvil
fervent anvil
stone panther
maiden crypt
#

i am so sick of esp cheaters in this fucking game

#

i see some get banned but it is crazy that there are so many in my region

pine hazel
#

Yo

#

what is the class with most dex?

#

ranger?

#

i want to make a one tap hand cannon build

#

i mean

#

all the abilities of the ranger also work with handcannon?

#

like the boosted shot and others

tribal zodiac
#

go play barb for 1tapping KEKW

stable wyvern
#

Guys, when is next wipe?

twin edge
#

Looking for contributors with deep game knowledge for a community (better) wiki project. We're building a comprehensive Dark and Darker resource site - and we need people who really know the game to help write guides based on own experience and data we have collected. We already have more than any available site for Dark and Darker. DMs 🙂

fathom plaza
#

hey all, does the Mystical Gem not come out of dungeons? We extracted with it but once we got out it was gone. do you HAVE to go use it, or can you not bring it down to the darker levels

#

We went down not out

#

then extracted

grand beacon
#

ya its for the one level only

#

gotta use it when u get it

sturdy coral
#

🚪 Dungeon Only

compact urchin
agile tide
# pine hazel .

Not if the ability specifies "bow type weapon" or crossbow. Quick reload does work though as far as I know and that's the most important one

edgy sable
sturdy coral
#

door mimic

pine hazel
#

Even with aim

#

The ranger still good in solo?

#

Or is full dependent of the team

#

I dont remember

brisk saddle
#

WHY ARE ARROWS BUGGING SO HARD, THEY KEEP RICOCHETING OFF MOBS DIRECTLY AT MY FACE IN 1 FRAME?!?!

brisk saddle
#

yeah like when you fight lich solo, the archers shoot into other archers or lich, theres like 20%chance it ricochets and insta hits you no matter what

#

super buggy this patch

#

@gleaming condor

agile tide
pine hazel
agile tide
#

Handcannon has built in pushback anyway

pine hazel
#

Im trying to make the most decent handcannon squire build posible

agile tide
#

But the benefit of forceful is you can combine it with quickshot to blast ppl away like team rocket

pine hazel
#

Trying to get a one tap build too

agile tide
#

There is no such thing as a squire handcannon ranger build that is good so just make one that you think is fun

pine hazel
#

I try on fighter

#

But its not really good

agile tide
#

With fighter at least you can use victory strike on the handcannon to try for the 1 tap

pine hazel
#

And the ranger has more dexert.

#

So the handcannon should reload faster

agile tide
#

It does, fighter really only uses it to open fights, but it's not very good because even without the long reload, you're not fast enough to close the distance after a hit

#

They'll reset

#

In solos anyway

pine hazel
#

So

#

I will try to make the fastest ranger cannon build

#

Its my life mission

agile tide
#

Yeah I think being able to fire more is better than being able to shoot harder, same concept with two handers benefitting more from dex

#

Not that they don't also benefit from phys but u know what I mean

pine hazel
#

I want to get the best "magic counter" build

#

In general

#

The fighter is not great at that

agile tide
#

Squire wizard gets killed by anything though
If your goal is to counter magic then just use a bow, works very well and doesn't punish you as hard for missing

pine hazel
#

But its slower than the handcannon

#

Funny

agile tide
#

If you use the crossbow mastery perk it's very fast

pine hazel
#

They should add specific perks on ranger for the handcannon

pine hazel
#

Not the normal crosbow

agile tide
#

They will I'm sure, ranger rework is coming soon

#

Windlass is definitely slow

pine hazel
#

And the handcannon on 60

#

Or 55

agile tide
#

I only ever use it as a secondary with a normal crossbow primary, and if I miss I just swap it for a spear in my inventory (solos)

pine hazel
#

Windlass dmg is very low for the reload time it has

agile tide
#

It used to be high but it was terrible for everyone and they nerfed it

#

CSGO dungeon

pine hazel
#

Its litt one hit

#

Miss die

#

Even with one tap

agile tide
#

Nobody was a fan haha

pine hazel
#

Didnt deserve the nerf

agile tide
#

It was fun for a bit tho

pine hazel
#

The people cry asf on physical range

#

But say nothing about spell spam

#

Holy comunity

agile tide
#

They did just nerf wiz again so there's definitely some complaints

pine hazel
#

That shit obliterates on squire

agile tide
#

It dies to a lot of stuff, gets wrecked by longbow and warlock

pine hazel
#

I unlocked sandevistan ahhh moves just to dodge spells

agile tide
#

Not to mention Wiz destroys sorc generally

pine hazel
#

Or only divine magic res?

agile tide
#

Yeah, close to 50%

pine hazel
#

Dont remember

agile tide
#

No, divine magic is strong against lock

#

But other stuff, nope

pine hazel
#

I dont want to delete my fighter

#

But i really like range

hardy stump
pine hazel
#

And i feel bad on magic pvps

#

Maybe i delete it and start a new ranger

agile tide
hardy stump
agile tide
pine hazel
#

Ranger still being the biggest magic dudes counter right?

#

Its my biggest issue

#

For meele dudes I just use spear

hardy stump
pine hazel
#

The Ranger deff needs a rework

#

Specially for the handcannon perks

#

I want my english grenadier build soon

pine hazel
#

But its good enought on solo?

#

Im going to play it

#

I really like my Cutlas slayer fighter

agile tide
#

It's good enough on solo just need to watch out for landmine and iron will barb pretty much, if you're running forceful

pine hazel
#

But its very bad against magic

royal crescent
#

how much should i sell off role catice for

pine hazel
#

Also

#

Fighter with taunt and the pavise

#

Is the most op thing to farm on pve

#

Playing with people

wintry lantern
#

Max cocatrice after a fucking week gives me 2 blue diamonds, 2 blue emeralds, and a fucking green emerald

#

Like what the hell is that? The amount of gold that costs, not counting the damn market value due to the quests, is fucking absurd for literal garbage returns

agile tide
wintry lantern
#

Tfw the returns are worse than PVE

#

Like I don't think its wrong to expect at least one royal or ultimate gem, the damn thing barely gives shit anyway

pine hazel
#

@agile tide The longbow is the best one?

#

Or the survival spam still good

agile tide
#

I see mostly surv and recurve forceful builds with armor pen but they are absolutely miserable to use in squire with no add and pen IMO

wintry lantern
#

Longbow is best unless you're one of those losers that run away constantly and never commit to a fight

agile tide
#

I commit to every fight that I'm going to win this

wintry lantern
#

Literal mosquito damage, unfun to play and to play against

wintry lantern
#

Thats good, S is bad its slower

agile tide
pine hazel
#

The rapier parry is so bad made

#

Holy

wintry lantern
#

I feel like though, the nerfs the game needs are:
Longbow needs less
Ranger knockback needs to be deleted
Whoever balanced barbarian needs to be taken out back and shot

#

Rapier parry is overpowered

wintry lantern
#

Sorcerer is fine, delete a functional perk that stops me from moving

pliant valley
#

with the track record or nerfs of buffs on this, i have no faith that there will ever not be one broken character

wintry lantern
#

knockback shot is the most unhealthy thing in the game outside of how ridiculous barbarians always are

pine hazel
#

At least 3

wintry lantern
#

They do not

pine hazel
#

2 is nothing

wintry lantern
#

Traps are also stupid and unhealthy

regal dock
#

anyone know what kind of damage typing poison damage is?

pine hazel
wintry lantern
#

They aren't as bad as they used to be

agile tide
#

It's easy to say ranger is OP until you try to play it in solos lol, you may change your opinions

regal dock
#

or does it not have a classification like light/dark/earth/fire/curse etc..

wintry lantern
#

But nothing is worse than losing a kit for free becasuse some loser setup shop and went afk 12 minutes ago

pine hazel
#

You get obliterated by a W barbarian

wintry lantern
#

knockback shot is toxic, the whole kit is designed to run away, and stepping in a trap against a half decent player is always a guaranteed death

agile tide
#

Just try it man lol

#

Everything seems OP when it's blasting u

pine hazel
#

Like the step back ability

#

Its only good if the enemy cant dodge your shoots

#

Like the 100% of the ranger ablities

wintry lantern
#

Maybe don'

#

t aim for the head if you know they're tweaking around trying to close the gap

pine hazel
#

If your enemy know how to predict your shots you are cooked

agile tide
#

Backstep is fun, catches the barbs and rogues slippin

wintry lantern
#

You shouldn't be missing shots, a headshot at 10% to hit isnt worth shooting 10 shots to force

pine hazel
#

Like the rogue backflip

agile tide
#

Then u can ideally trade a third, and if you've been hitting your shots on the approach that'll do it

pine hazel
#

Idk why they dont add like the

#

Ark thing

#

With the sling

#

It slows him down if it hits the legs

#

Idk the name

agile tide
#

That's a perk, crippling shot

pine hazel
#

The sling is decent?

#

I never see people using it

agile tide
#

The sling is ass, just saying there's a ranger perk for slowing on leg shots

pine hazel
#

I remember how the people used to spam survival with that

plush oriole
#

what is good build for rogue this season?

hardy stump
#

sentient lockpick

agile sigil
jovial bluff
#

Would a full chest be profit for a kuma fang/claw or zirksis I’m the full one with the full chest

agile sigil
# plush oriole what is good build for rogue this season?

good build? im not sure BUT a funny build, max agility, like im talking +3 agility rolls on as much as you can get, hide mastery and sneak and then agro a ton of sub bosses like multiple cockatrices or golems and dump them on teams fighting on the bridge

restive canopy
#

@chrome adder

hardy stump
agile sigil
#

lmfao

misty stone
#

Buff spellweaver is the most useless sht artifact

#

Rework it

#

Pls

#

Blue book IS better than artifact

jovial bluff
#

What’s wrong with spell spam

misty stone
#

And 1/20 times cheaper

plush oriole
#

can you get artifacts from quests still?

azure tinsel
#

when is next wipe anyone know?

copper phoenix
#

Is HR troll different from norms?

azure tinsel
#

yes

fluid rose
#

whats better guys. ranger, rouge or bard for trio

rose nacelle
tardy pelican
solid needle
#

How can my friend give me items without the goblin returning them back ?

solid needle
wintry lantern
#

Idk how it works in pvp but in pve if I take your shit the goblin automatically would give it back, even if its squire/campfire

#

Pretty sure it works the same in s2r, but I don't remember

sturdy coral
ebon flame
#

where is the channel to select class role, can't find it anymore

spark bear
#

does will scale demon glee

pine hazel
#

People going in team on solo mode is the most cringe thing i ever see

ebon flame
#

The most cringe thing is warlock being broken af since it exists

safe niche
west wadi
low obsidian
#

lets please put sorcerer time distortion back to 100% atleast 200 was overkill but 50 is cooked now, PLEASE I NEED VOTES FOR THIS

west wadi
#

no

rotund crow
#

frock sorcs death to all sorc and druid

low obsidian
# rotund crow frock sorcs death to all sorc and druid

i agree with druid but sorc is literally 2 hit to every other class accept rouge and warlock, if ur dying to sorcerer its lwk a skill issue, they are prolly just better, its a hard class to play good and most attacks are easy to dodge, it has low phys attack speed and dmg it just has alot of spells, but they are low dmg, and rn at 50% cast speed and 200% cooldown increase if ur dying to sorc its genuinly skill issue

#

like they are better at the game than you if you die to sorc rn, unless they running all legendary or purple gear and ur in squire kit

gritty stone
#

why even is water map in s2r rotation, like fr everybody hates ti

rotund crow
copper phoenix
#

Is there an up to date HR troll guide bc CLEARLY he has different moves than these old ass videos

flat granite
#

Dont believe troll has changed. He has different moves depending on if you rotate around him clockwise vs counter-clockwise. Only extra move he gets in HR is the fist slam which exposes his head.

sturdy coral
hollow nimbus
#

ok so dumb question if you cant gem uniques then wth are ultimate gems for

gritty stone
sturdy coral
quasi plover
#

im so done with this game solos is unplayable if you dont just abuse barb like a loser

stone panther
gritty stone
#

D:

delicate berry
#

whats the cheapest class to gear?

delicate berry
gritty stone
quasi plover
delicate berry
quasi plover
#

obviously you havent ran into a decently geared barb that 2 taps you with bardiche, even at max pdr

delicate berry
quasi plover
#

w ragebait u got me

delicate berry
#

most of my solo runs on HR were on bard, so if anything i'd slow and run away if i know imma lose the fight

gritty stone
#

bard is strongest pvp solo class imo

delicate berry
#

i love bard

gritty stone
#

i do too

delicate berry
#

mostly for loot runs though

#

for pvp my fav is longsword fighter

delicate berry
gritty stone
#

it is totally haha

#

well i main bard usually but this season i got hooked by sorcerer because its not as easy. but bro, watermap is so ass

#

also without gear, i cant play melee sorc.. T.T

delicate berry
#

i havent gave sorc the time of day yet, not a huge fan of caster classes even though i know how strong they can be

#

especially wiz on arena, shit is broken

gritty stone
#

i just run em down

delicate berry
#

i feel like sorc would be fun asf

#

might level one today

woven void
velvet kayak
#

Warlock in demon form is just so overpowered -.-

delicate berry
gritty stone
delicate berry
#

this game does really have a balance issues.. i think scalings are fucked or something

#

Arena really shows the issues

velvet kayak
pliant valley
#

there always has been and always will be a balance issue.

pliant valley
#

gear doesn't always make up for skill or lag

delicate berry
pliant valley
#

fps stuttering kills plenty of ppl in this game

woven void
velvet kayak
#

1v1 on close combat should not end this way.. he had like 65%hp left

delicate berry
#

Rogue needs a viable build without hide

gritty stone
pliant valley
#

rogue should have a dash attack

delicate berry
woven void
pliant valley
#

it has a crossbow

delicate berry
pliant valley
#

there should be more poison effects for rogue too

#

rogue should have bolas

delicate berry
subtle heart
#

Why does spectral “knight” target the guy who has been fighting him the longest and barely attacks the guy who interrupts the fight but cave “troll” goes for whoever enters the room last.

woven void
#

if you ask for too many rogue buffs theyre gonna give barb 20 more hp

pliant valley
#

rogue needs some luv

woven void
#

devs hate rogue

delicate berry
#

i just hate that it has to be played ratty outside of arena

pliant valley
#

^

delicate berry
#

like it should be a class that initiates and debuffs

hardy stump
craggy hemlock
hardy stump
ancient mango
#

best perks to run on ranger?

fleet surge
#

Buff rat 🐀

ancient mango
#

nimble, kinesthesia, ranged weapon mastery, purge shot?

formal gull
ancient mango
formal gull
# ancient mango OMG YOURE SO FUNNY

I would get rid of purge shot It’s not worth it if your running solos maybe in teams if there’s lots of bards but in general purge shot isn’t that great

pale spindle
#

dead game

formal gull
pale spindle
#

dead game

strong dawn
#

dead brain

pale spindle
#

dead asterix

#

sad

#

😎

zealous wing
#

3 years of dead game going strong lmao

pale spindle
#

👉 👈

#

sry

earnest raft
#

the fall of is real

craggy hemlock
pale spindle
#

🔫

#

dead asterix guys

#

1️⃣ Monkey

#

Monkey number1️⃣

#

big game

#

ez

echo sparrow
#

wtf is ghoul i have it as huntress quest but what is it am i dumb its not the zombie or mummy

feral bloom
#

and jump

edgy sable
#

Any guesses on the year they will impliment fall damage

stoic ridge
#

Do we know how magical pen works in dark and darker? Like does it pen through elemental resistance too? Such as fire and dark?

twin edge
#

Looking for contributors with deep game knowledge for a community (better) wiki project. We're building a comprehensive Dark and Darker resource site - and we need people who really know the game to help write guides based on own experience and data we have collected. We already have more than any available site for Dark and Darker. DMs 🙂

solid needle
#

Where can I get rotten fluids ?

wide wharf
#

From zombies

echo sparrow
#

but theyre really cheap on market

solid needle
wide wharf
#

Nah they drop often.

solid needle
wide wharf
#

Some quests, If the quest item says "any" and not "looted"

twin edge
pine hazel
#

Wish they nerf the sorcerer more

#

i die only for the cringe that thing sends

#

holy

#

most no skill thing ever made

flat nymph
#

Spellweaver or Illusory? What're peoples thoughts on those

pine hazel
#

spell spamers

#

solo pvp is very boring most of the time

#

people just spam some shit and run

#

or people just holding W for 10 minuts

#

w and click or e and click

indigo sand
#

why is everything so cheap rn?

pliant valley
#

blame canada

alpine wing
#

how good is dwarf bard

#

or is it over

pine hazel
#

ranger is the worst class on game

#

@agile tide

#

the only good way to play ranger is with the hand canon anguish

vestal silo
#

what is happening to the price of pouches? Currently costs around 500-600 instead of the 800-900 they cost at merchant

pine hazel
#

holy

twin edge
#

what pouches

#

gold coin pouches cost almost exactly the same as yesterday at this time

#

average price of pouches in last 24h is 599g

vestal silo
#

bags are down to 5-6k

#

is there little money in circulation?

rough tulip
#

fucking this game 18 copper on me and i fell throw the ele floor wtf fix you fucking game and i lost my whole kit on top of it

twin edge
#

im not sure but like 2 hours ago people were selling the bags even below 5k

#

so its way below average in last 24 hours

#

average for bags in last 24 hours is like 6.3k

fast shore
timid elm
#

does troll still drop arti's

twin edge
#

no

stray heart
full hound
#

is there a stat to increase druid shift speed

old heart
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I believe it's spell casting speed.

pliant valley
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knowledge increases spell casting speed

old heart
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Aye.

keen shale
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i just encountered a cheater wizard who blocked all my buttons and ingame interactions besides switching items and movement. Im in absolute shock, i havent see anything like that before. I ambushed him on pyramid lower basement, he was cornered, pulled out crystal sword and i was about to easily kill him, and them all my ineractions blocked, i barely run away but died to zone unable to open portal. I didnt know that such cheats possible, i have his name and appearance screened, reported in game but dont have video footage

blissful violet
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I have had major server issues prior to the most recent patch. Most issues seemed fixed after latest server side patch for me

alpine marsh
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where do I go if I want to find people in high roller in solos?

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wait Im on west, maybe if I switch to east I'll run into people

viscid palm
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TEMP BANS FOR TEAMING BTW

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YOU ONLY GET TEMP BANNED FOR TEAMING IN HR

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you only get temp banned for teaming in HR if you guys didnt know

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spineless dev team temp bans for cheating and teaming garbage game garbage dev team hope the game dies from your lack of effort

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if you guys want some free gold you should go into the dungeon at the same time as another absolutely 2v1 the entire server and trade all the loot to another character

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YOU ONLY GET BANNED ON A CHARACTER not your account

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so tranfer the loot to another character and your good

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BARBARIAN KNOWLEGE STAT DEV TEAM

steel coyote
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how much is cinder?

olive isle
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Hey, we were just talking about buffing barb knowledge, at the cost of vigor

viscid palm
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invis pot barb is canca

alpine marsh
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I switched to east and suddenly my first match there's tons of people. Rip us west

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and everyones juiced too! Why did nobody tell me this is where all the cool kids go? 🙁

fringe surge
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where does smelly vomit come from? im assuming zombies?

sonic maple
fervent anvil
fringe surge
fervent anvil
neat sapphire
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did servers crash or smn

agile tide
magic sleet
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I miss when normals capped at common gear

fervent anvil
honest galleon
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anyone know how to get the tear of the volcano by chance?

solemn onyx
honest galleon
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thanks jack, can u get it in pve? norms or just high roller?

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im guessing u have to kill the boss for it?

solemn onyx
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yes

fair yacht
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strongest melee ability in the game? ranger shotgun

solemn onyx
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is legendary tier

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so easy on highroller to get but more dificult u have a chance to in normal/pve

honest galleon
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oh ok thanks king

pure trout
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Boys

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do you know if sword mastery gives you perks when ur wielding a mace and a short sword as secondary

viscid palm
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read my name

sonic maple
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Temp bans for te...

granite bluff
vapid pivot
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When is the next patch ?

edgy sable
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Next patch : FALL DAMAGE 🤯

stray heart
pine hazel
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But the cannon build was actually great

celest kettle
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Why cant barb use prowlers glove

edgy sable
deep helm
# pine hazel All roads leads to slayer fighter

u have the be without a brain to thing ranger is anything but S tier to busted. The longbow got a nerf but not really. Bows in the game are even easier to use than hit scan spells. If you die as a ranger to any close quarters class you are just bad

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lunar lynx
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Can you block the strong ranged attack from the Lich with a shield without taking damage ?

lunar lynx
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Yeah that one lol

deep helm
lunar lynx
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Oh

twin edge
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You can parry it with a Spear 😄

deep helm
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lead it into them

lunar lynx
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I was wondering cause in HR you got that small circle that buff skeleton, but it looks like ill have to keep some alive 🥲

lunar lynx
foggy turtle
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anyone figure out the nvidia filter issue yet?

frail grove
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are any cosmetic quests out?

frigid sleet
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on twitch watching repoze display just how broken barb is

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every class is slower than him, and he can catch them all LOL

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every battle is a 1-2 hits and its gg

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what a fun game... great job sdf

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oh and best part hes wearing full tunic paded pants... out running mages and rangers

deep helm
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i love how barb is S tier for a season and everyone wants them to be D tier again like most every other class hasnt also had time in the sun

minor shore
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floral pendant
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pilxs or c[ops

deep helm
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i love barb, been a day 1 barb main from play tests but even i have to agree that seeing a barb every game, its the same type of barb and variations, is annoying. Barb is good, Barb is Low S tier high A tier and people hate it bc their class isnt the busted on and isnt running the game

midnight salmon
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is the headshot damage multiplayer still 1.75x?

minor shore
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The one shot headshot guys are everywhere right now and the past 2 weeks which is funny

long hornet
minor shore
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Again im talking about the majority of Barbs not the insane few, most immediatly throw everything at you and panic if it misses

deep helm
# long hornet Seeing a barb? Uh, go to solos. You’ll find 10 barbs. A game. You’re playing an ...

this is what you came up with that whole time? I grind solos and see a barb or 2 a game. Depending upon the build depends its skill level. Some take more skill than other. That statement of making an easy class op ruins the game is a very bad one. It is a true one but making any class op, easy or hard makes the game unfun and unplayable. There really arent high skill classes, maybe bard and druid but most others are mid to low skill

long hornet
# minor shore Barb is easily countered depending on your class, playing it safe and reactive f...

Every class can be easily countered, you can always make a scenario where someone has an advantage. When it comes to balance, it’s how many mistakes can you make and live. What can you do wrong and still live. Barb can heal easily, while moving, one shot squishies easily while at low hp, when people should be running and not fighting, have more pdr, hp, magic resist, move speed, and damage than most classes. You have very little that brings Barb down. It’s simple all around