game-discussion

[hearty ginkgo]

for better stability

[white verge]

I did. The game was unbalanced and not worth my time

[hearty ginkgo]

it still is, yayyy

lets all pick barb, build vigor and cooldown reduction and rush people with W key and Savage roar

[warm kraken]

worth your time to post in here tho?

[clear zinc]

Is barb broken?

[fleet basin]

Any fun build ideas I'm feeling stale?

[civic pewter]

server are broken

wtf

[hearty ginkgo]

it always was

[steel swift]

anyoe cant q?

[fleet basin]

Game was rigged from the start

[civic pewter]

#game-discussion message

literally five mins ago lol

[white verge]

Absolutely! I love the game just needs balance and the Developers need to listen to the community. Honestly what kinda question is this?

[clear zinc]

Haven't played for a while but i dont remember many people complaining. Is it worse now?

[fleet basin]

Have you not heard of Paul??

[stoic ridge]

Games balance is better now then ever lol

[hearty ginkgo]

not really, its just barb...

barb is a barb...

[clear zinc]

fair enough

[white verge]

Nope

[stoic ridge]

Barb is definitely the strongest class, but its not even that bad in comparison to previous metas

Every class right now is viable and can kill any class

[hearty ginkgo]

there is still wizard

[fleet basin]

Dark and darker jesus

[hearty ginkgo]

no way

[hearty ginkgo]

thats the guy who made the GOOD changes

[stoic ridge]

Especially with the new parry mechanics. With MS being changed, very few true damage and all attribute options, this game genuinely feels more balanced then ever.

[white verge]

Last time I played Barb was broken and got buffed and rolled other teams

[fleet basin]

The second coming of Paul is upon us

[stoic ridge]

You can pick up and play any class you like, and likely do well with it

[white verge]

Well bless his heart

[hearty ginkgo]

my 50% damage bonus builds would say otherwise (blue bis kit)

[clear zinc]

Thats good to hear. It sounds like the game is in a good direction

[stoic ridge]

Still has some issues, but its definitely improving at a rapid pace. The team seems to finally have figured a lot out.

[hearty ginkgo]

all praise to Paul

our saviour

[fleet basin]

Amen

[stoic ridge]

Lots of people in here will hate on any chance and never give credit where its due, but this wipe has been fantastic. New map is great, very few balance issues, launch whirlwind was op, people didnt have enough time to figure out that disarm was good but not broken.

[white verge]

I will have to install and give it some play

[stoic ridge]

Only massive issue with this wipe wasnt even really IMs fault. 3rd party dupers hurt the economy. But luckily its easier to make gold then ever with all the new workshops and what not

[fleet basin]

Eh still balancing issues but Paul's bringing it back

[hearty ginkgo]

play barb

barb is the key

youre stronggg

you have infinite health as a barb

[stoic ridge]

This game will never ever be fully balanced, its not possible. It will just rotate what class is meta.

[hearty ginkgo]

you do alot of damage as a barb

[white verge]

I really like bard

[stoic ridge]

And again, this is the closest weve ever been to each class being balanced.

[hearty ginkgo]

okay guys, i cant help him now

[hearty ginkgo]

you could but there is not much bard content so..

[fleet basin]

Heresy sir, Paul will bring balance, Paul is the saviour

[hearty ginkgo]

im myself waiting for new songs or maybe perks

[hearty ginkgo]

[white verge]

Same stuff?

[hearty ginkgo]

Kill the heretic!!!

[clear zinc]

I've heard a lot of complaints about the balancing before, but has paul now turned it all around?

[hearty ginkgo]

yes

[stoic ridge]

This game is more friendly now then ever too to casuals, since there are sooooo many good ways for them to make a lot of gold in a short amount of time. Copper ore, logs, chest runs, pile runs. There are soooooo many good options

[hearty ginkgo]

its getting better

[clear zinc]

Then praise be to Paul

[fleet basin]

Alert the villagers! Prepare the stockades!

[hearty ginkgo]

Praise be to Paul!!

[stoic ridge]

I hope they add a skill tree with PVE only upgrades. SUch as a chance to get gems while mining ore, a chance to get 2 logs, doubling the interaction speed of only pickaxes and woodsman axes

[hearty ginkgo]

we have to start the Paul cult

[stoic ridge]

Higher chance for mob drops etc etc

[clear zinc]

They need to make a channel dedicated to paul

[hearty ginkgo]

yes

agree

[stoic ridge]

If they added a progressive skill tree with only PVE upgrades, that would give casual players, and of course hardcore players, sooooooooo much to work towards

No direct meta to follow or break, just choose the skilltree for which grind you like best, whether it be bossing, mining, logging, or looting.

[fleet basin]

I think that's the direction they're taking it, it's becoming more crafty and we had the tests with the multiclasses now they have paul on board I think we might see some old stuff returned more balance plus what your hoping for

[fleet basin]

It's already hear brother, just no cool aid yet, things are good

[stoic ridge]

I think a limited multicalss could work, but theyd have to choose specifically which perks could be shared. Not every perk for every class

[fleet basin]

Here*

[stoic ridge]

Like only robust from barb, only swift armor perk from fighter, only reload speed from ranger etvc

[fleet basin]

Nahh just debuff perks for certain classes vice versa, it's just playing around to find the sweet spot for multiclassing

[stoic ridge]

And only 1 perk from another class

[fleet basin]

And yeh stuff like that, that's balance

[stoic ridge]

Multiclassing shouldnt be a rainbow of classes, it should be you can choose 1 limited seleciton perk, from another class

[hearty ginkgo]

id say 1 multiclass perk is enough

id just pick potion chugger and be happy

[stoic ridge]

Yah thats what I was saying. Im just saying each class can only share 1 perk that the devs choose. Not the player

[fleet basin]

Like og multiclassing was just terrifying

[stoic ridge]

IF players can choose one perk, it will be busted. I.E wweapon mastery on wiz or something

[fleet basin]

Barb bear for example

[hearty ginkgo]

it has to be worked on to not break the game

all we can do is wait

AND PRAISE TO PAUL!!

[fleet basin]

Praise be

[stoic ridge]

I kinda hope they add a riposted to magic items like crystal ball, instead of a normal parry, make it do a low damage, knockback aoe blast.

[fleet basin]

@little summit lead us to the promised land 🙏

[stoic ridge]

Like you block an attack with the crystal ball, and then boom, melee class on you is knocked back, giving you some space.

[fleet basin]

I'm pretty sure it has a block already right? So not to far fetched

[stoic ridge]

Yup, just nothing to do with block. I feel like thatd be a fun mechanic that is risky but rewarding

[hearty ginkgo]

iron will barb:

[fleet basin]

Yeh like a pain force push or something, high risk high reward

[stoic ridge]

Yah there are definitely already counters built in, I just think itd be good flavor

Make it so blocking with book shoots out a single magic missile,

Or if thats not strong enough like a burst of 3

The combat update was a great start, but there are still sooooooo many things they could do to make pvp even more enjoyable, and fun for both new and old players

Like imagine your on the wyvern platform with a crystal ball, and you bait out an attack and force blast someone into the void lmfoa

[zenith summit]

wait, no further delay??!! this is a first!

[stoic ridge]

But again, I just really want a skill tree specifically to make pve more interesting. I like mining sometimes and itd be soo cool to get a gem from time to time

[fleet basin]

He's definitely cooking though, like the warlock nerf was major but not major enough that warlock is no longer torture viable, just stops the touch and run Kids

[stoic ridge]

Like la dee da, I just mined 3 stacks of copper, oh cool an epic diamond and 2 rare rubys

Or oh, I got this skilltree perk that gives me a chance to get some skeletoon loot from chests, like bones and skulls.

[fleet basin]

Yeh loot is an iffy one, like if there was a skill tree to help with Quests fair but anything beyond that might effect the econ

[stoic ridge]

It should affect the econ, thats kinda part of the point. It would allow casual players to feel more rewarded for speccing into a form of grinding that they like. If they like just looting chests, let them get some low tier mob loot in said chests

In return, they cant get the perk that would let them get gems from mining

Or they cant get the perk that lets logs stack up to 2

[fleet basin]

Like mining perks are a good idea too, looting gems from mining with the low chance of mystic drops but as I said iffy

[stoic ridge]

Who cares if the economy is mildly affected if it makes a core mechanic of the game feel much better and more rewarding

Mining is very boring rn. Id get a small dopamine bump is I got a decent gem while doing it tho

It keeps players incentivised to do some grinding so they can afford kits, and are less upset when they lose a kit

[fleet basin]

Nah I get you but the game is a skill grind, if you just give stuff away ( by dumping the econ = easy gear sets ) 1000hr-15 000hr players are gonna feel stiffed and unrewarded

[stoic ridge]

I doubt that 10k hour players are gonna feel stiffed because there are a few more low tier mob drops, and extra gems in the economy. Theyd spec into a bossing path anways, so they 100% would not care lol

The different skill paths, would cater to everyone, casuals and hardcore aalike

[fleet basin]

I can see the vision but I feel like it's slippery

[placid jungle]

role the game back until patch servers are fucked

[loud tapir]

servers are on some crazy ish

[stoic ridge]

Only East

West coast is fine

[placid jungle]

-200k kit

[stoic ridge]

Never run an expensive kit right after a patch

[onyx knoll]

STR mode, need a funny guy

[wary ridge]

when is the emergency stablity patch for the stability patch, bc my server is cooked

[clear atlas]

wish I knew what region had the least players, I just want to grind in HR in peace xD, but im glad the games this alive.

[last scroll]

lol yeah that’s the classic problem you want the game alive just not in your lobby

[clear atlas]

every region is just full xD it suprises me.

[stoic ridge]

If they actually go through with marketing next season like SDF says, it might become even more full

Wouldnt be surprised if they do like a 50% off deal, and get a bunch of big streamers like peanut, shroud etc to come back

Peanut if he likes this game, could make it bigger then its ever been

And while some people may not like him or his fans, I just want a gigantic populace

[analog shell]

hey everyone, does anyone know if you can get a chest from the wyvern pile ? and if not, i guess you can from the frozen key pile ?

[clear atlas]

any pile you can I believe

its artifacts that are limited to certain piles.

[analog shell]

interesting

ty

[clear atlas]

np, ive pulled a chest from the throne room before although that was a long time ago lol, so unless they changed it, it should still be that way.

[cyan seal]

WHERE TO FIND ROTTEN LUMP

anybody knows

[jade depot]

Abominations in the inferno!

[cyan seal]

whats the drop rate

i am farming it for so long i thought i am doing the wrong guy

[jade depot]

Not too sure on that

HR or PvE?

[cyan seal]

thnks by the way for confirming

pve

[jade depot]

No worries!

[cyan seal]

should i do hr

[jade depot]

Yeah i believe it has a higher drop rate in HR

[cyan seal]

thnks

did luck is of any use

is*

[stone panther]

pulled one like a week ago from throne room. Deff still works

[vapid pivot]

any Warden wich can help me how i change my steam account for the old epicgame's one ?

[gloomy cobalt]

when pregnant goblin update

[civic pewter]

i don't understand how ur supposed to go to the abyss or lower level in the ice moutain

do i just jump in the red fog?

[gloomy cobalt]

yea

[main lintel]

did they revert the wizard nerf yet to make them at least mob clear ?

[stone panther]

yeh. red fog = good. Blue fog = dead (first couple of minutes of a match)

[civic pewter]

ohh thank you sm

i hope i'll find gold pile

idk the map yet

[gloomy cobalt]

good luck

[stone panther]

Hit up false throne: https://i.gyazo.com/ac5abebfa0ccaba0c3a868f96fa159f7.png
there is a switch next to the throne that opens a pile room underground

[silk mulch]

game dead again ?

[civic pewter]

okay im finally here

is there any boss or stuff i should take care of?

[dire gorge]

paul single handingly preventing dark and darker, becoming dead and deader

[civic pewter]

yo those lizards in fire looks dangerous

brother i got destroyed by a demon

[stone panther]

in that room? just 3 doggo's and a demon. Demon can be cheesed easy on the stairs. As long as you are above or below him he does minimal damage.

or if you want to fight him normally, just rotate clockwise around him so the balls dont hit you.

[civic pewter]

goblin gonna ask me 500 for my stuff back damn

[civic pewter]

he fucked me up one tap from full health

[stone panther]

lucky you were wearing terrible kit then, could have been a lot more expensive

[civic pewter]

full blue gear that expensive for me

im f2p bro everything expensive 😭

when i loose i loose a lot when i win its not alot

[coarse portal]

You dont need some crazy mid maxing blue kit to play normals. Find what gear you like for the base stats and thats all you need guy. No reason to buy crazy blues. Unless you have gold to burn for no reason .

[civic pewter]

not something i bought its stuff i looted and kept over time but wdym don't need blue kit, i alr die so fast with it

anything below and my health bar a candle

[stone panther]

what class are you on?

[civic pewter]

cleric

i was rogue before and i was always one tap

so i swapped

[stone panther]

cleric is perfect for abyss. Should be no reason why any undead gets close enough to do damage to you

just got to look out for the hounds and demon.
Try just running them up and down the stairs until the hounds are dead. Then smack the demon while below him crouching.
just...dont walk over the spikes at the bottom of the stairs

[scenic fox]

fix those spider they just under your feet and YOU CANT DO ANYTHING JUS JUMP ON THEM

[nocturne urchin]

How do I report a racist player ?

[spice dragon]

is survival bow bugged or smt ? how come the arrow has no drop

I also why is it hitcan ? When i play survival bow it's not like that

[fervent anvil]

im like 90% sure thats how they meant to work. they just exist to be annoying

[swift grove]

https://darkanddarker.com/support/report/playerreport/3/e675d797359111eea11706e73c153fa3/live

[nocturne urchin]

thanks i reported someone with screenshot and video evidence

hopefully it works

[coarse portal]

I mean all you need and your baseline blue kit. No need to spend crazy money. A baseline blue kit can easily kill someone that is midmaxing

[coarse portal]

Lol you don't need to

[scenic fox]

yea its so fun then you just jump on them for a minute and cant do anything

and loose a kit to that

[fervent anvil]

[spice dragon]

well nvm I just tested it it was probably a cheater

[swift grove]

why not?

[tall glacier]

how to attack as sorcerer??

left click only does spells

got it nvm

[swift grove]

when your hands are out, left click casts on left hand, right click on right. you choose each spell with Q or E; merge them with R (if you have that perk). you need to equip a weapon to attack

[obtuse mason]

I havent played for a year, what is the biggest change they added to the game?

[swift grove]

Water map, PvE mode, faustian bargain, Firedeep, and workshops all possible new additions since you last played

[obtuse mason]

Damn, seems cool

[stone panther]

• barb rework
• fighter rework

[nocturne urchin]

why not?

[civic pewter]

wdym a baseline blue kit

you mean what the squire gives me?

[sudden pasture]

nearly 2 weeks of not being able to play this game now. I am slowly moving away in general, and this is how you lose players. By not making it available to play.
"Cannot connect to the servers. Quit the game". - Should be related to connecting-issues? Tried nearly everything. Please fix this soon before I forget you completely.

[surreal terrace]

why not?

[civic pewter]

where ru from

[sudden pasture]

Denmark

[nocturne urchin]

are you racist? why wouldn't i need to report a racist player?

[civic pewter]

that fing weird ur guys literally have servers have u tried when u have this issue to swap steam server then coming back

[civic pewter]

first damn day on the game i've seen a player w a dog near him calling me the nword w a kind of soundboard idk how he even did that if its a hack or thingy in game but

[nocturne urchin]

wow

[lost wyvern]

Anyone else have seriously frame drops and lag since patch?

[primal jolt]

Sounds like a barbarian and a druid

[golden shard]

when is next wipe?

[plain marlin]

someone called me a guppy once, hurt my feelings

[subtle heart]

Why tf are hard crab shells 2200 EACH when you need 3 for a quest? Is it easier to just find them?

[granite bluff]

Used be like 3300g each shell lol… ppl do target farm them for gold so sometimes the spawns can be rough to catch first

[subtle heart]

I’d rather fight 10 players for it than spend 6k on ONE part of the armorer’s quest

[elfin fern]

i dropped 100k on weapon workshop (so far), you can deffo drop 6k on armorer quest hehehe

[twin edge]

10% on all difficulties that it drops from the crab at the little island bottom of the water map

there is also one more crab inside the island with resurrection altar on the middle left side of the map

[subtle heart]

And how many crabs are there?

[elfin fern]

one crab also lives in the pvp volcano

[granite bluff]

Yeah i just hate fighting druids on the water map… also i think i seen the crab shells drop most often on PVE mode…. Either way water map sucks, maybe itll be playable when Ironmace figures out how to properly develop jumping out of water onto land

[elfin fern]

6 i think, one at the south ship, 4 on the res atoll, and 1 in the res volcano

[twin edge]

on that little island there is like 4 crabs + 1 more next to the ship near island

[subtle heart]

It should have a decent drop rate tho right? 🙏

[twin edge]

10% on adventures

5% on HR

don’t know why they made it more rare on HR

[granite bluff]

Think cuz its an uncommon item lol

Def seems weird to have it be rarer on HR though

[twin edge]

you might be right actually but it is still quest item

so that’s weird

and it comes from different loot pool in crabs

[granite bluff]

Its just the way ironmace developed their loot table i think

It just naturally causes uncommons to be more likely in non-HR

[subtle heart]

Is it the hermit crab or pinchclaw crab?

[twin edge]

second one

[granite bluff]

Pinchclaw crab only

[subtle heart]

Well here we go, here 2 hours of chores for sdf

[twin edge]

lmao

[granite bluff]

😂😂

[twin edge]

and there will be other people farming it too for money

try Oceania servers

[granite bluff]

2 hours of chores minimum***

[thorn cloak]

how much is the chest ?

[subtle heart]

What about the sharp sea urchin Spines? Are those easier to get?

I might wanna just spend this time trying to get spectral fabric with a 10% chance and have more than enough to buy it all.

[elfin fern]

the spines have low chance but there are many urchins all over the map

[robust otter]

Died last second to mobs didnt get a single item back in recovery fuck this game ima just rmt

if ur the last person in the fucking server a portal should spawn on you

[agile tide]

dead to greed RIP

[robust otter]

40k gold for $3 seems good to me

[stone panther]

wait, you're telling me I can make 20 bucks an hour playing DaD in my underwear all day?
shieeeeet, where do we sign up

[subtle heart]

What?

Fuck I just died to timer after killing spectral knight becuase I was on discord wtf

[gleaming condor]

somebody explain these active skills on barb: war cry, rage

both seem to be giving you HP, but that additional HP doesn't really do anything because if you get hit while with those buffs on - when the buffs fall off you pretty much take the damage these should have absorbed by 100%

so, are these useless with respect to HP (rage gives other stats, I know) ? Or is it a bug ?

[subtle heart]

Does 50 affinity goblin give your stuff back from PvP?

[stone panther]

he might give back like a weapon or something, but that's about it

[subtle heart]

Well all I had was a weapon lol

[elfin fern]

you take a smaller percentage of your overall pool, which yes will be the same percentage when your health goes back down

but if your health pool remained smaller, the same flat damage is a bigger percent of your health

[rapid vapor]

1 or 2 things maybe. He gives back more the more you level him though. It's also possible whoever killed you took whatever you had

[stone panther]

pretty decent chance to get it back. gobo recovere sucks, but i've gotten weapons back quite often on HR, also when my aff was 50. Also because players hate morningstars I guess

[subtle heart]

I died to timer but nobody wants a sterling blade anyways

[swift ether]

Drop rates are low, plus whenever i see an urchin i rush it

[elfin fern]

ran into a bug i've never seen before, spectral knight phased and the second swing of its blade made no sound

so i died because i couldn't rely on the cue

[rapid vapor]

Either way at 50 I wouldn't be really surprised if he didn't bring it back. He tends to be pretty bad until you max him out

[fickle marlin]

Where are the patch notes????

[strange swift]

I just returned yesterday after being away for like 6 months. How new is this last wipe / when is next one? Wondering how much time I should sink into grinding quests

[edgy mica]

wanna edate

[spice anchor]

Looking for tangle leggings 3dex3strenght3agi rubysilver cap 3dex3strenght3agi and rubysilver adventurer boot 3strenght3vigor3agi DM

[subtle heart]

Took ur chance fast lmao

[strange swift]

Sure why not

[fickle marlin]

They're kinda useless if youre still fighting by the time they wear off. But if youve already won by the time they wore off then youll just go to the relative %. So if they put you from 170 to 220 hp and you take 200 dmg you survive with 20 hp. Then as it ends you go down to 15. So you still gained some EHP DURING the fight.

[edgy mica]

🤓

👆

[subtle heart]

Dude wants me to go to ash pile 🤦‍♂️ go yourself wtf

[fickle marlin]

I bored at work >:[

[edgy mica]

wanna edate

[fickle marlin]

Hop off the cocaine

[edgy mica]

@subtle heart what is your in game name

lets do this

i am dangerous

[subtle heart]

Im shy

[edgy mica]

same whats ur name come to gathering hall portugese

[maiden crypt]

what artifacts does the the fire boss drop

[subtle heart]

I’m not hopping on vc with someone on cocaine lol

[edgy mica]

never said vc

[subtle heart]

Ok

[edgy mica]

are you le

[thorny timber]

why is highroller solos so dead? every lobby filled with 3-4 players and everyones squire besides me

game is so cooked

[edgy mica]

except for when i get into boss arena

[midnight salmon]

why does the light bringer have 4 random attributes? Every other epic (purple) quality item in the game has 3.

[zealous temple]

do it qwap

[wooden breach]

is the game down

[spice anchor]

Looking for tangle leggings 3dex3strenght3agi rubysilver cap 3dex3strenght3agi and rubysilver adventurer boot 3strenght3vigor3agi DM me

[radiant mortar]

hi, the gemming values of stats changed since the last time i played, i believe there's optimal stats to gem on specific gear pieces now? is there a table or something i can check for that ? or do i have to try one by one

[agile tide]

Just gem what you need for your build, don't gem stuff just to sell it. Not worth, better off selling the gems

[radiant mortar]

then i'll just check each piece, thanks!

[devout venture]

how do we send messages directly to friend without being in the same lobby ?

[stone panther]

/w [friendname]
also, if a friend writes to you (from another lobby) you can use /r to replyback, without having to type his name and everything

[sturdy coral]

hey i went back to check in normal mode before heading to 2nd floor - the c chest behind the mage and archer under the ramp is now golden

[worthy cypress]

Just got teamkilled by trolls an i can't karma report, is it bugged?

[devout venture]

thx a lot

[warm sable]

Is Valentine still there?

[stone panther]

there's this if you just want to know max ranges: https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Enchantments#Gem_Socketed-0

[subtle heart]

I’m tired of doing chores for SDF

[dusky spindle]

i have gotten stuck in a door 3 times alr and died because of that fix ur game

[radiant mortar]

exactly what i've been looking for, thanks a lot

[graceful storm]

You must have bad karma yourself. Or out of reports

[pallid hemlock]

if their names arent showing up, then yes its bugged

[spice anchor]

Looking for tangle leggings 3dex/3strenght/2-3agi rubysilver cap 3dex/3strenght/2-3agi and rubysilver adventurer boot 3strenght/3vigor/2-3agi DM me

[rapid vapor]

That must've just been changed because I checked it like 2 or 3 times this patch and it wasn't even a large chest

[open maple]

does warlock demon forms bare hand attack scale with magic damage?

[worthy cypress]

no bad karma, they killed me an the karma menu didn't give the otion of punishing team killer, an to punish team killer u don't need report point

[pallid hemlock]

fundementally boof game, take what you can get

[granite bluff]

its been like this for a coupel weeks at least, i noticed a bit ago and have been hitting that golden a lot recently since no one goes to it

[agile tide]

the DoT does

[night citrus]

im determined to learn this damn banshee..

[midnight wind]

does archer purge shot remove barb scream and other skills?

[sturdy coral]

yeah I believe it was changed just last patch. I recall similar, checking it and finding it a normal chest

[charred veldt]

Yo chat

Was this the weekly patch?

[agile tide]

Don't think so, they've been consistently on Thursday all season

[golden forge]

what the f is mysterious potion for and why is it 30k?

[alpine wing]

quest item

are the quests not all unlocked yet? i cant find the next treasurer quest

[golden forge]

yeah i have that for quest but why does it cost 30k per one

[alpine wing]

u need 5

[golden forge]

its like 150k

xDDD

[alpine wing]

yea

not a common item ig

[golden forge]

how do u even get it

from where i mean

[alpine wing]

the groots

[stone panther]

dreadspine

[alpine wing]

can anyone tell me if the treasurer quests are all out yet

[golden forge]

are there on the water map?

never heard of those

[alpine wing]

its in hell

its the groot

[golden forge]

is it like a subboss?

i dont recognize this mob to exist before

[alpine wing]

yes subboss

its been in the game for a while

its in demon throne room

[stone panther]

It's the dude that shoots spikes. Demon throne, or basement of blood prison

[golden forge]

is he only on high roller?

on normal aswell

[alpine wing]

normal

[golden forge]

damn why the fuck 50 people are contesting troll every game

if u can go to empty inferno and farm some tree xddd

[alpine wing]

fast money

[golden forge]

the potion is like 10k more no?

[alpine wing]

potion is a rare drop and takes a while to get to

[golden forge]

and probably easier to get than pvping for 5 hours and beliving that god drops the troll pelt

[stone panther]

hahaha, hahahah, hahaha
no

droprate for potions is stupidly low, even on HR you'll be killing 25 per potion

[alpine wing]

less comp probably makes it easier

but troll is truly shorter

[alpine wing]

are there ANY knowers

[viral oasis]

ive killed 20 dreadspines and got 1 potion

[golden forge]

is there any known value or we just assume its like 5%?

[vapid oyster]

gotta collect the flowers to craft potions

[golden forge]

ouch

and now i am not feeling as happy as i was

[wintry lantern]

So.... what changed in the patch?

[viral oasis]

the potion is like 30k

[stone panther]

0 on PvE, 5% on norms, 10% on hr

[golden forge]

love you

[viral oasis]

i also dont know all spawn locations, demon throne always and demon cage sometimes?

[golden forge]

if any of you see a weaponless friendly warlock with a black panther skin its probably me farming the tree for next 100 hours

[golden forge]

wiki says demon throne only but its not up to date

[stone panther]

guaranteed: Demon throne + blood prison
33% demon cage (it can be either abomination, cerberus or dreadspine)

[viral oasis]

lovely

[wintry lantern]

Cage can spawn the nurgle thing

Again though, did the patch actually do anything?

[stone panther]

take a cleric for easy kills. He is undead. Holy purfi + 2 holy lights and he's dead

[viral oasis]

i go infernal pledge demon lock

[golden forge]

doesnt hellfire also melt him in like 3-5 hits?

[pallid hemlock]

nope. just server maintenance

[golden forge]

honestly im only warlocking this wipe

[viral oasis]

agro module then multi hit lifesteal everything

[lone mountain]

anyone can help me kill wyvern or lava golem ? i need it for quest

[subtle heart]

is frost iron key still possible to get from yeti?

[golden forge]

i could wyvern but its probably pvp not wyvern killing

[viral oasis]

i heard from a secondary source that you cant

[alpine wing]

can anyone tell me if the treasurer quests are all out yet or when they come out if they arent

[rapid vapor]

To add to this you can stack undead damage bonus pretty cheaply and if you get the right set up 1-2 holy lights will kill it

[rapid vapor]

If it's the quest to kill them it's usually killing blow so someone can help if they stop when it's near dead

Sometimes it'll count if you're in a party, but I always hear conflicting answers every time those quests come up

[mortal talon]

Dear sdf delete the water map. Sincerely… everyone.

[charred veldt]

I like water map got 3 artifacts this wipe there

Also no matter how much y'all ask t hey will never remove it, it's simply stupid

They invested a wipe of development in that

[rapid vapor]

Hot take but it isn't even that bad it's just not as good as the other maps, what with it being the 2nd newest map in the game

[lone mountain]

in pve mate

[lone mountain]

you can?

[subtle heart]

is frost iron key still possible to get from yeti?

[mortal talon]

Sadly. Imagine had they invested that time into something good.

[charred veldt]

I like the map

The bosses are not free like goblin caves

It has built in expressman

And a crap ton of gold chests

If you dont like to pvp in water then run to surface

The map with highest loot potential is without a doubt blue malestrom

With the expressman alone that's like 80% more space to extract sh!t with

Tidestone isnt even locked behind stingray unlike gold

[stone panther]

That cave to Expressman is prime rat real-estate though

[charred veldt]

I always get on guard until I see a zombie spawning

Or the bat

[merry sable]

Gold spawns outside loot room now, drops from HR golems too

[merry sable]

Shhhhh. When mummy spawns I thank god. When no mummy? My sphincter tightens

[mortal talon]

The only good thing about water map is the boss. The rest is trash

Visuals look good.

[merry sable]

HR barnacles, hitting like 6 gold chests as bard in under 8 minutes. Maelstorm is free money.

[torn fiber]

Where’s the patch notes?

[static vortex]

I havent played in a long time. I likely will be solo bolo.

I enjoyed Ranger, and Rogue back in the day.

What do i need to know to get back into the game

[subtle heart]

Finally I got a spectral fabric but ts was 40 thousand why is it 30 thousand now?

[torn fiber]

Game update and no patch notes…..

[stone panther]

It's midnight in china... hold for 8 hours and check market again

[nocturne urchin]

is there a way to not join lobbys that are already in progress?

[charred veldt]

To be precise it was 80k

[sonic lily]

Does anyone actually have proof they've looted a chest from any treasure pile?

[charred veldt]

At one point

[subtle heart]

What?😮

[charred veldt]

With the gold dupe

[sonic lily]

I've looted so many in Highroller and nada

[rapid vapor]

Really early on in the season someone had posted a picture where they looted 2 chests from a pile. I think it was on the subreddit but I'm not sure. They are incredibly rare though

[charred veldt]

me too

[stone panther]

pulled one from false throne in abyss last week

[charred veldt]

I hope they let us change religion after paying like 3k gold or something

[sonic lily]

from any pile tho? Or just specific ones?

[charred veldt]

chehst is from any pile

artifacts only from dual boss or key room pile

[sonic lily]

maybe im just really unlucky. I've hit the one on goblin caves like 20 times now

or its just stupid rare

[charred veldt]

I converted to the magic pen religion

But I main bard

So having that 20% regular action speed would be really good

The thing is, why they put magic pen on a religion?

[rapid vapor]

Iirc it's either .1% or .01% chance

[charred veldt]

That sh!t could've been magical interaction

[stoic ridge]

How do I report someone for calling me slurs in the market

[wicked parrot]

Go call mommy 👶

[hollow elbow]

if you went full blues including jewlery, who would you think is the best class in normals?

[charred veldt]

The one that hits like a full unique bis artifact kit in squire.

[hollow elbow]

I figure barb, got killed by some barb fairly decked out in norms and you could tell dudes adrenaline was spiking from the way he talked lol.

is boss loot in normal really worth it much to spend your time there?

[charred veldt]

No

[ruby ore]

Normal boss is just to practice

[charred veldt]

Barb is TAME compared to that sh!t's damage

[hollow elbow]

or is it more of a safety, dont have to invest much thing?

I like HR because I love me some shiny, but when I waste everything I like normal into HR runs, feels good. bosses cant drop artifacts in Normal because of the loot limit right? or are they the exception

[charred veldt]

No they can't

If not everyone would be playing normals

I run HR in squire

If im successful I buy cheap sh!t and go back in

Got an artifact yesterday

Kinda lucky

On the 12th kill of something

Considering it was one of the "regular" artifact bosses and not the 3x boosted ones

[hollow elbow]

true. lol, It sounds crazy, but something about antiing 100 gold with no gear bugs me. doesnt matter how much gold im sitting on, its the PRINCIPLE lol

[charred veldt]

By the way

I do not like to promote it

But if you want to hit 100+ damage spell and one shot almost anything

Go play that goofy ass nuclear warlock build

[gritty stone]

guys, i again need your help, i desparately need slinger tidewalkers, is there any other spot than the middle ship on top of the map, 2nd floor?

[charred veldt]

Wtf is a slinger tidewalker

[static urchin]

Dark offering?

[hollow elbow]

nah, if im fighting im a halberd fighter. has always been my favorite, will probably always be my favorite. I CRAVE a polearm perk

[charred veldt]

Yes.

[hollow elbow]

thats the one were they share their partners right?

[static urchin]

DO lowkey so gimmicky and hard to pull off in solos

[gusty cradle]

this site has been updated for all maps now https://darkanddarkertracker.com/maps

[charred veldt]

kinda

but I mean

[gritty stone]

with boomerang sorry

[gritty stone]

uuuUUuh, thank you so much!

[charred veldt]

(20 +5) * 1.75 * 2

That's like 80 damage easily per dark bolt

[gusty cradle]

no problem gl

[charred veldt]

Or if you are ass and get rushed at the very least 60 damage with dark reflect

A single curse of pain with the 75% mpb and continuous spam of dark bolts takes down almost anything

And what's even funnier

You hit harder than a barb

[gusty cradle]

yeah that warlock build is annoying to play with all the buffing but it does slap. probably next on the chopping block imo

[charred veldt]

What they be having FULL kitted legendary barbs? 45% ppb?

The dark offering warlock can easily get over 50

IN SQUIRE

[mortal talon]

Money is meaningless at this point though idk. I just want to fight and fighting on that map is ass

[charred veldt]

then

don't play it

you got 3 other maps

leave the rest of us that enjoy it on it

[mortal talon]

I don’t have a choice when doing squires with the homies lol

I would love to leave it to only tall

Yall-*

[charred veldt]

Thanks

[mortal talon]

I don’t play it willingly that’s for sure

[charred veldt]

but why play squire to riches

other than

faustian quests I mean

[mortal talon]

For funsies

[alpine wing]

can anyone tell me if the treasurer quests are all out yet or when they come out if they arent

[mortal talon]

Me hit go. Me go fight. Me win or me die. Me hit go again. That’s it that’s why.

[charred veldt]

Ah

Barb main?

[gusty cradle]

i think squire to riches can be fun because everything is an upgrade

[mortal talon]

Playing wizard this wipe.

Usually play Sorc or rogue

[cosmic egret]

What is the price for the chest?

[vast kayak]

At this point chest and bag drop rates should be bumped to where they were several seasons ago. Who cares if you get a chest or two a day?

[stoic ridge]

God I hate the people who invite to trade, just to waste time and cancel right before more then scammers lmao

[cosmic egret]

Someone answer, please😭

[stoic ridge]

like 2-3 hundred frozen hearts

[indigo vine]

5 shmeckels

[cosmic egret]

😭

[stoic ridge]

Could also be like 600 copper ore?

[mighty aurora]

What if the Bard was trapped and betrayed in the time chamber for 1000 years

[indigo vine]

half a spectral bag

[stoic ridge]

600 copper ore is unironically like 150k lmao

Copper is an underrated gold method ATM

[indigo vine]

I havent even checked the market I just know its insane rn

[fervent anvil]

prob around like 900k silver

[stoic ridge]

One Leviathan with +2 Wepaon damage, Action Speed, Phys Power and Max Health

[cosmic egret]

ore... silver... hearts...
How much does it cost in spec?😭

[stoic ridge]

6-7

[cosmic egret]

This is another joke or no XD

[grizzled meteor]

Sixseven

[fervent anvil]

prob around like 700 spectral hilts

[stoic ridge]

Sorry I meant 525600 minutes

[jovial viper]

hi

[cosmic egret]

5 spec bags?

[subtle heart]

I just saw a warlock and a barb both kill each other at the same time

Coolest shit ever

[fervent anvil]

im more just going off of what ive seen before. price has prob changed by now

[alpine wing]

can anyone tell me if the treasurer quests are all out yet or when they come out if they arent

[civic pewter]

is the workshop place with the weapon smith and ect worth it ?

[boreal orchid]

they are, final quest doesnt give chest anymore tho, just a bag

[alpine wing]

oh

so the website that shows the additional chest quest after the bag is removed?

[keen mauve]

STOP SIGN? What stop sign

[vapid pivot]

hey guys i started to play again recently after a long pause what is a Volcano Tears ?

[boreal orchid]

yeah it changed this season

[agile tide]

This is very dumb considering how much more the chest is worth now, gg casuals

[civic pewter]

i think that one of the lower level where u need to find the red stairs

if im not wrong that the one with the dwarf

that shoots you

[vapid pivot]

? i see people asking for them in trading post

[sturdy coral]

I thought volcano tear is what the fire boss drops

the colossus

[vapid pivot]

probably

but i have no clue what it looks like

[civic pewter]

oh im wrong then nvm

[vapid pivot]

or what it is

[civic pewter]

look it up in the market

[vapid pivot]

is it a named or an item ?

[civic pewter]

maybe u can see what it looks like

[vapid pivot]

oh i see 60k item

what is the uses of it ?

[jovial viper]

anyone got clubfighter map

[agile tide]

There's 2 or 3 at the flipped ship and I think one under the docks mid/top right south of the sailor's inn?

[stone panther]

speculated to need 10 for a quest. But the quest hasnt been released yet, and is based on mined data. So who knows.

then again, the same source also said we would need 5 potions. And that seemed stupid... soooo

[vapid pivot]

10 ??? for a quest that would be so dumb

[subtle birch]

anyone here in collectors guild? if so will you check the dashing boots in price check for me

[sturdy coral]

good comparison it seems intentional upping the difficulty of the quests

[stone panther]

yeh.. and again it's for a cosmetic (last quest for collector, will give a 'Action' (so sitting down emote likely) for 10 tears) if the farmed data is to be believed.

I really wish they were done with this mega grind bs after stingray egg for the torch.

[lavish spade]

i haven't played in like 2 wipes is the game gaming again?

[upbeat dawn]

yes

[vocal turtle]

anyone play on asia servers ? I just want to ask the state of our servers

are the chinese teammers still top dog or nah ?

[idle vine]

is anyone here good at recognizing whether or not a kit is good enough for arena on most classes?

[sudden grotto]

anyone else getting disconnected everiytime they go to second level rune

[sacred kettle]

Helen wong and her chinese minions rule the asia servers. source: im chinese

[sudden grotto]

and any ideas on how to fix it

[mental sand]

hey guys can i buy items on the shop and use in arena?

[rustic socket]

payment verification failed. wtf just lemme login,anyone had this issue before?

[runic parcel]

Focus on 3 main stats

[vocal turtle]

XD ahh nice to know thing never change guess ill keep this game uninstalled ty miss

[subtle heart]

Cleric is so ass holy shit

Slow ms, slow hits, low damage, and low hp

[dusky spindle]

What do you guys think counters barbarians the most?

[strange swift]

In pvp yeah but in pve cleric is amazing. Plenty of stat buffers to re-dead the un-dead and buff allies

[modest finch]

LS fighter or kiting a lot

[strange swift]

ranged and movement hinderers

[inland harbor]

barbarian, i mean there is not a single other class rn you can play

[dusky spindle]

So i gotta outplay em?

they gotta nerf barb or smth

[strange swift]

from what I've seen either keep out of melee of them, be damn good at dodging, or get damn good at longsword parrying

[inland harbor]

wdym? for 3 years barb was dominant 90% of the time, they dont nerf that class

[dusky spindle]

nah but this wipe its too good

[inland harbor]

they reduced a lot of hp and true dmg. both buffs for barb. then they completly removed kiting and made swings with weapons let you move faster

it will take decades for them to realize that

[vapid oyster]

cleric is strong lmao

[viscid palm]

read my name

[agile tide]

Lots of things can kill barbs, they do feel a little strong though ngl. Mostly in solos though, they don't seem like a big deal in duos/trios

[elfin fern]

remove spear from ranger
delete purge shot
delete spell predation
delete hide
nerf bardiche
nerf plate fighter MS

[agile tide]

But to know which classes are strong u just have to look at market prices for their meta gear. Barb gear is like 1k over most other stuff just because of demand

[agile tide]

Bard coded

I agree with deleting hide though, out of all of that

[strange swift]

Buff handcannon

[lavish shoal]

first person with a semi decent take in all of dark and darker disc

[keen mauve]

Purge shot needs to be a skill again

[elfin fern]

or at least have a cooldown, what the fuck

[lavish shoal]

not even just full counter a class and multiplle other play styles without any counter play

same with spell pred

you go against spell pred as bard bonk wiz heal druid its just ggs

same with purge

[silk mulch]

Games ass not suprised its dead

[inland harbor]

I mean you go with any class vs a barb and you lost too

[lavish shoal]

what

fighter for head on and most kites win

barb isnt even top 3 class

[inland harbor]

kite? they removed that some time ago

[lavish shoal]

im pretty sure i can press w key

[inland harbor]

ah thats why 90% are playing it

[silk mulch]

you havent played against a good barb

[lavish shoal]

bcs it doesnt take too much skill

[inland harbor]

you know that a barb can press w too?

[lavish shoal]

i have plsyed against good barbs in hr

[silk mulch]

clearly not

[icy pond]

bardiche/halberd should not be able to drag during poke attack. that is the toxic part of the combo imo.

[silk mulch]

movespeed has been gutted from the game for ages you cant kite for shit anymore unless youre a wizard with ice mastery

[dusky spindle]

I just killed a full bis gold things barb with lege no gemmed full boof with green jewelry and i just dodged his attacks br

[inland harbor]

I think the problem is rather that barb has 200hp 330 ms and does 300 dmg per hit

[silk mulch]

or a ranger with longbow and insane amount of action speed

[lavish shoal]

and sorc

and fighter for head on

[silk mulch]

no

[inland harbor]

every single weapon can block, ice mastery is useless

[lavish shoal]

fighter wins head on vs bard 100-0

[icy pond]

when block works its not that bad. blocks just need a little more impact power. pokes go through and around blocks though so should not be doing massive damage.

[silk mulch]

lmao ice mastery is not useless

you can stun lock people if you have enough cast speed and theres no way you aint aiming for the head with ice bolt have fun blocking that

[inland harbor]

if you frost bolt a barb, he will block and one tap you with the reposte

[silk mulch]

im a wizard main lmao with 3k hours id know

[lavish shoal]

how are you getting blocked by a barb lol

[silk mulch]

^

[lavish shoal]

skill issue

[silk mulch]

^^

[inland harbor]

he can just right click? wdym

[lavish shoal]

aim better

[silk mulch]

the block with most weapons aint even that good

[lavish shoal]

legs or head

[silk mulch]

literally what he said

aim better

[lavish shoal]

or chest

[ebon palm]

you're a wizard harry.gif

[silk mulch]

xd

[inland harbor]

its the whole body, if you crouch block and look slighty up , you can t get hit by any spell

[silk mulch]

thats cap

[lavish shoal]

wait

and crouch jump is predictable

they locked into the jump

[inland harbor]

ill bet you money, that if we do a 1vs1 and ill play barb, you wont hit 10/10 ice bolts

[silk mulch]

10/10 ...

this guy

[lavish shoal]

you dont have to hit all

[silk mulch]

^^

[lavish shoal]

theres only 5 btw

8 with perk

[quasi plover]

Any noticeable performance improvements after last nights maintenance

[inland harbor]

it doesnt matter, its just 10/10 as in 100%

[lavish shoal]

4 ice bolts alone kills most barbs

[silk mulch]

you're delusional

[inland harbor]

if you ice bolt me you are already dead

[lavish shoal]

• fireballs explosions

[inland harbor]

i need to block 1 to kill you

[lavish shoal]

ive done it in game

against barbs with thousands of hrs

[silk mulch]

and what wizard are you fighting that stands still to let a barb get distance on you

spaz

[lavish shoal]

prob just a skill issue on your behalf

[inland harbor]

ah, you run away while casting, with 100md

[silk mulch]

what do you expect a wizard to do wtf

[inland harbor]

i can press 1 button and have more ms than any wizard could ever have

[lavish shoal]

nah i stand still

[silk mulch]

thats cap

[lavish shoal]

for 8 seconds

[inland harbor]

ofc

[silk mulch]

haste invis you aint catching me

[lavish shoal]

if i space i win

[inland harbor]

XD

in the time you cast haste invis, you are already dead

[lavish shoal]

holy skill issu

issue

[silk mulch]

^

like i said

[inland harbor]

you both have like 10 hours in this game

[silk mulch]

dont let a barb close the gap

[inland harbor]

combined

[lavish shoal]

just shut atp you dont know anything

[silk mulch]

youre regarded

[lavish shoal]

the litteral meta is fighter wiz ranger no barb

[silk mulch]

^

[inland harbor]

a barb can press 1 button to catch up, if you cast a spell you have even less ms

[silk mulch]

no he cant

[inland harbor]

how many wizard do you see in your games

[silk mulch]

every game ...

[inland harbor]

i havent seen one before they nerfed it

[silk mulch]

youre clearly not fighting good players then

[inland harbor]

just go into a hr lobby, die to mob and look at the classes. its 8 barbs and 2 bards

[silk mulch]

cause never in my life would i let a barb catch me

[fair echo]

whats the gamemode with the most juice? duos, trios, or solos

[silk mulch]

and no bard is shit wtf

[nocturne urchin]

If u die to barb youre bad simple as that

[lavish shoal]

bcs barb doesnt take skill

[inland harbor]

that doesnt even make sense. im not fighitng good players thats why no one plays wiz??

[lavish shoal]

so new players play it bcs they bad

[silk mulch]

yes

[lavish shoal]

bard is bcs loot

[inland harbor]

barb has most hp, most ms with fighter and has the highest dmg per hit

[nocturne urchin]

Barb gets kited so easily you should never be within range to even get hit one time

[silk mulch]

any good team will 100 percent have a wizard in the comp

[silk mulch]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

see even he knows

[ebon palm]

skinnypete would like a word with you sir

[timid shuttle]

paul u gonna do something about the cheating next? duping issue solved. good job. now get the new anti cheat out. Holy fuck lol

[inland harbor]

what kiting???

[silk mulch]

this guy is dookie

[inland harbor]

they removed kiting, have you all ever playied this game in the last motnh?

[silk mulch]

just say you're bad

[lavish shoal]

you cannot remove kiting

[inland harbor]

cast a spell and you are dead

[nocturne urchin]

If u let a barb get in melee range of you, your positioning is complete garbage and you need to work on awareness

[lavish shoal]

if you can move you can kite

[nocturne urchin]

You should be zoning them and controlling the space

[inland harbor]

do you know what they changed to kiting why its removed?

[lavish shoal]

if your 200ms you can kite for some time

[nocturne urchin]

Its insanely easy to beat barb

[silk mulch]

literally this wake up

[fair echo]

does duos or trios have more geared players

[silk mulch]

duos for sure

[lavish shoal]

kiting is moving away from someone not how much ms you have

[silk mulch]

^

[inland harbor]

he has 200hp and takes like 10 dmg per spell, you lose all your ms while casting now, he presses rage, is 20ms faster than you and 1 taps

[nocturne urchin]

If you cant kill them, you can always disengage they literally cant hurt you unless you choose it

[silk mulch]

my point proven vsing goobers

[lavish shoal]

if a barb takes 10 dmg per spell that is a base kit wiz

[inland harbor]

they have more ms what are you talking about

[whole kraken]

in a playerbase of 5k, it’s overwhelmingly likely that you too are ass, the odds of there being good players among us are low

[nocturne urchin]

You can use the map to your advantage. You are not running in only straight lines I hope

[inland harbor]

so you didnt know they removed kiting and you dont know that the last 3 times wiz got touched they nerfed it

i see

[silk mulch]

i have 3k hours id sleep you mutt

[whole kraken]

ok chad

[lavish shoal]

you cant remove kiting how hard is that to understand

[inland harbor]

you dont know how this game works

you never playied this game once in your life

yes they did remove kting

[nocturne urchin]

Also they dont have more move speed. They are quite slow. Rage only lasts 6 seconds. Its not enough to get caught. If you get caught, your movement and position was already trash.

[silk mulch]

jsut because they got rid of b hopping doesnt mean kiting is gone ...

[whole kraken]

they’d have to remove our legs to remove kiting king

[nocturne urchin]

Basically just get good

[inland harbor]

they made casting spell lose you tons of ms while swining weapons gets you more ms then before

[silk mulch]

...

[lavish shoal]

Kiting refers to keeping an enemy chasing you while also keeping it at a range where it cannot attack you. This tactic is often used to more safely attack the enemy using a long-range attack or to distract the enemy while others attack it.

[inland harbor]

they removed ms when casting, has anyone of you playied this game?

fr

[silk mulch]

theres a thing called cast speed so you aint slowed down for long...

[lavish shoal]

that is a literal definition

[ebon palm]

"but lt.dan you aint got no legs"

[inland harbor]

you are still slowed are you trolling?

[lavish shoal]

for like 5 s

[silk mulch]

this guy is straight cheeks

[lavish shoal]

not forever

[silk mulch]

how many hours do you have

[lavish shoal]

just space

not hard

your just bad accept it

[silk mulch]

^

[inland harbor]

you have like 220ms while casting and 300 without, a barb has 280 while swining and 330 without. yes you can kite surely

[ebon palm]

you're*

[silk mulch]

HAHAHA

you are not getting 330 unless youre savage barb which is troll af

[lavish shoal]

330ms barb is bro on meth

[inland harbor]

hahah ókay, noone of you has ever yplayied this game

all i needed to know

[silk mulch]

and youd have to wear all agi which is a dead roll

[inland harbor]

noone of you knows that there are skills in the game that ppl can use to be faster

[silk mulch]

rage is troll ..

[inland harbor]

its insane that you were able to turn on your pc tbh

[lavish shoal]

ive killed hundreds of barbs even when barb was in a stronger place by kiting its not hard

[civic pewter]

guys is the workshop place with the weapon smith and ect worth it ?

[inland harbor]

we all know that you never playied this game once in your life its okay

[whole kraken]

agi isn’t dead on a class that doesn’t need other stats

full agi barb works fine

[lavish shoal]

holy cornball

[silk mulch]

no it dosent

[inland harbor]

they both never playied this game once

they say they ahve more wizards in their games than barbs XD

[silk mulch]

youre better off going dex pdr and hp

[whole kraken]

it literally does mr 3k hours

i didn’t argue which is better i said it works goofball

[silk mulch]

go on fight another barb with dex pdr and hp

[ebon palm]

I thought they nerfed agi

[inland harbor]

they are trolling

[lavish shoal]

okay

[silk mulch]

its not worth it its ass

[whole kraken]

nah he’s got 3k hours he knows what the objectively best things are

listen to chad

[silk mulch]

if youre building that just to try and get on a wiz with rage have fun pushing past a team that knows how to play around a wizard

rage is the biggest troll

[lavish shoal]

okazi how many hrs do you have

[inland harbor]

bro he said there are more wizards in his hr lobbies than barbs, he prob got 3k on adventurer mode

[silk mulch]

you are probably na spastics

[inland harbor]

lemme check

[whole kraken]

and at the end of the day, you’re still 160hp two tapping people just for existing

[lavish shoal]

screenshot it

[silk mulch]

thats not true at all

[inland harbor]

send me yours too okay

[lavish shoal]

okay

[whole kraken]

the point is that the class doesn’t NEED it to function and can outperform half the other classes even building a “dead stat”

[ebon palm]

USA USA USA! CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF FREEDOM BABY

[silk mulch]

if you are letting a barb get on top of you you are just bad that simple

[inland harbor]

nono, listen to the 3k guy, he said you can just away

even with less ms

and while casting spells

[silk mulch]

youre a spastic

[lavish shoal]

you sending me your ss of your hours?

[whole kraken]

i do agree with that aspect, unless they have 20-30 more ms than you

[silk mulch]

if you can clearly see a barb w keying you do you stay and cast spells no

[inland harbor]

you never playied the game once in your life and now you are mad

[rich cargo]

How much would y'all sell a 3 will 2 dex 2 agility golden plate?

[inland harbor]

its 2101

ill send you a sc

[lavish shoal]

wheres the ss

[silk mulch]

for 2k hours you are bad

[inland harbor]

you never playied the game once

discuss it with your bf

[silk mulch]

lmao insecure little fella

[inland harbor]

who also never playied the game

[ebon palm]

the SS were disbanded after germany lost ww2

[timid shuttle]

So quick question. Is blatant teaming allowed in normals?

[silk mulch]

dont project youre embarassing yourself

[silk mulch]

no i dont think it is

[lavish shoal]

do you get bullied?

[timid shuttle]

as in 2 players work together to kill someone then they loot and leave?

[inland harbor]

you legit said:" you have more ms while casting spells than a barb with rage" you said "I have more wizards in hr than barbs" you clearly, never once in your whole life touched this game outside of adventurere mode

[agile tide]

As long as it's organic and not queue sniped it used to be? I didn't see if they changed that

[inland harbor]

and the only defence you ahve are insults

[whole kraken]

full agi hs dam barb go brr

[lavish shoal]

wheres the ss

your pbv lying

[silk mulch]

i didnt say you have more ms learn to read

[lavish shoal]

prob has 10hrs

so bad

[inland harbor]

just wait a sec im typing

[timid shuttle]

No its a solos lobby. Sorc came came in the room and helped the warlock kill me, they both looted me and left together

[inland harbor]

i dont have to lie

[agile tide]

Right, I'm saying it used to be allowed in solos

[lavish shoal]

so we still lying

[silk mulch]

^

[lavish shoal]

stfu atp

10hrs hobo

[ebon palm]

No, not in the slightest

[lavish shoal]

timmy alert

[lavish shoal]

suprised

[maiden crypt]

team and teamer

[ebon palm]

My ww2 joke didn't land with you and that's okay

everyone is being way to serious and I tried to lighten the mood

[silk mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-dog-ai-gif-12041344661216578237

[lavish shoal]

just a bad joke

[maiden crypt]

i report so many people i always see someone banned

[ebon palm]

I thought it was hilarious and that's all that matters

[whole kraken]

how many timmies does it take to cheese a troll

[lavish shoal]

was just a statement

so okazi still hasnt sent a ss prob trying to lie abt it

or just backed of

[inland harbor]

you already got it

[silk mulch]

@inland harbor bed time

[inland harbor]

but you dont dare to send yours?XD

[timid shuttle]

wow thats lame. Kinda makes someone not wanna play tbh. It shouldn't be allowed at all. especially now that its oh so easy to que in the same lobby as a friend in solos. you could literally take over every lobby easy. should a temp ban for it. followed by a perma if you do it again. perma for HR

[inland harbor]

go play minesweeper, i mean we all know you dont play this game

go play your hr lobbies with mostly wizards

XD

[lavish shoal]

yeah so we lied

[silk mulch]

project mkore

[agile tide]

Well, queue sniping and pre-teaming was always bannable. But if you just voip teamed up in the dungeon it was allowed. Kind of muddy

[lavish shoal]

fake ah ss

[inland harbor]

i even got the chat XD

[lavish shoal]

only has 300 hrs can see the background

so bad

[inland harbor]

you can even see your msg next to the hours

but you cant send your back?

xD

so you typied so much about the sc but wont send your hours?

you made it your whole personality and now you are silent?

[timid shuttle]

Still pretty lame. Shouldnt be able to do it at all.

[silk mulch]

listen to him hes backed into a corner with his tail between his legs

[charred veldt]

Yo guys

[silk mulch]

wake up

[ebon palm]

"i've put more hours into this trash game than you so that makes me cooler than you" - this entire conversation

[charred veldt]

Ideas for a new artifact

[whole kraken]

idk why this hour topic matters so much i’ve seen 2k+ timmy overlords

[charred veldt]

For the lava colossus

?

[narrow ruin]

anyone able to join https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1481357691396952084 and help me find a place to use rusty key in crypts? newer to game

[charred veldt]

Like the abyssal trident and leviathan that dropped mid wipe last season

[inland harbor]

okay so now you send your hours, i guess from how you wrote you are now below me

right?

[timid shuttle]

Now when people start abusing that shit, then they will probably do something about it

[charred veldt]

bridge module

[inland harbor]

because you have half of my time im the one to talk?

[charred veldt]

down where there are wooden planks

[lavish shoal]

why we lying

[charred veldt]

in one of the walls

[silk mulch]

you are ahh end of story

[lavish shoal]

your just ass at the game

[inland harbor]

you legit never playied this game once in your whole life

[lavish shoal]

watch any streamer

[charred veldt]

I think the next artifact for the lava colossus should be a pavise

[lavish shoal]

they win against barb

[silk mulch]

the amount you have said that is clearly projection

[lavish shoal]

like foxmanplays

[agile tide]

Hours don't mean much tbh I have hella hours and I'm still pretty mid

[lavish shoal]

slays

[charred veldt]

An obsidian looking pavise with a built in counter attack after blocking

[whole kraken]

if you’re on 2nd floor it’s very unlikely you can use it, there’s one module on 2nd floor that takes it

[silk mulch]

that sounds balanced

[charred veldt]

like auto lava eruptions on blocks

[inland harbor]

you said that wizard has more ms while casting spells vs a barb with rage

you have no right to talk tbh

[charred veldt]

Buddy

[silk mulch]

no i didnt

[charred veldt]

We got zirkzi's

[lavish shoal]

why we lying

[whole kraken]

oh shit DFS in dark and darker

[silk mulch]

read holy shit

[charred veldt]

wait

[lavish shoal]

watch foxmanslays kill barbs as sorc warlock or wiz

[inland harbor]

and you said, you have more wizards in your laobby than barbs

[lavish shoal]

its not hard

[inland harbor]

again, you have no right to talk

[charred veldt]

I thought you were implying it was unbalanced

[inland harbor]

plus you bprob have 3 hours now 3k

[silk mulch]

you have BOTH i didnt say there was more you cant read ffs

[charred veldt]

Nobody uses that phrase like that

[sturdy coral]

will you kiss already

[inland harbor]

surely, now you back off your own statements

[timid shuttle]

guess me an my friends will start queing into solos together since everyone else is doing it lmao

[lavish shoal]

barb is weak against someone who isnt stupid

[agile tide]

Nah don't be that guy

[whole kraken]

“watch one of the best sorc players and do what he does easy”

granted sorc is dumb easy

[charred veldt]

So any thoughts on my pavise artifact idea 🙂 ?

[inland harbor]

3k hours and says you are faster as a casting wiz than raged barb XD

[sturdy coral]

you will catch a ban and be in here crying 🤕

[lavish shoal]

think its the hardest class in the game to play not too sure tho

[charred veldt]

hello 🙁 ?

[silk mulch]

go back to school

learn how to read buddy

[charred veldt]

ok for starters

[sturdy coral]

too busy flinging poop like monkey. I like big immovable object pavise artifact

[whole kraken]

it’s one of them fs

[lavish shoal]

this guy diffs barbs in piss gear

[charred veldt]

what are y'all complaining

[inland harbor]

the typical, im so defeated because he proved me wrong 10 times that the only thing left are insults, classic

[lavish shoal]

its not hard

[timid shuttle]

This is the 3rd time this has happened to me in a week

[silk mulch]

no youre just spastic

[sturdy coral]

like big stone slab or something

[inland harbor]

you dont have 3k hours in the game but prob in this chat

[silk mulch]

i didnt even remotely say anything what you are describing

[timid shuttle]

one guy literally says in voip fight me and my buddy here or die lol like wtf? I guess im dying then

[charred veldt]

what are you complaining again

[whole kraken]

i think ranged in this game is more difficult by default

[inland harbor]

thank you for proving my point

[charred veldt]

about barb or wizard

lost the thread

[whole kraken]

they hit like trucks but you gotta hit

[silk mulch]

he thinks barb just beats wizard everytime lmao

[sturdy coral]

something about a rage barb being slower than a wizard casting but atp I can’t follow who said what

[silk mulch]

clearly hasnt vsed a good wizard thats geared cause that should never happen

[inland harbor]

this chad guy said, a casting wizard has more ms than a raged barb and that there are more wizards in his hr games than barbs

[charred veldt]

You know what beats barbs and wizards every time?

[silk mulch]

if you are letting a barb close the gap youre stupid

[whole kraken]

lich

[charred veldt]

Dark offering warlock