game-discussion

[fervent anvil]

its not a balance issue?

[pseudo flicker]

I need to take one skill and one perk to have a worse movement ability compared to adrenalie rush

plain stupid that is

[fervent anvil]

but its not a movement ability? its adding a buff to hide. which aint a movement ability

[pseudo flicker]

you understood my point though... its just to make hide viable basically I need to at least take 1 or 2 perks. If I want to have a movement speed boost, like fighter, I need to invest multiple points.

It is just stupid..

[jovial bluff]

TBF rogue needs better movement options especially with the nerf

[pseudo flicker]

I wish the class had just more viable skill/perk options now it's a mess in my humble opinion..

[fervent anvil]

for a hide build you need perks based around hide yeah? if you want a fast plate fighter you need to take a perk to make the ms penalty of gear less. yeah right now rogue is kinda limited in playstyles but if you want to build into something in the game you have to not build into other things. you cant have a build that covers everything at all times

[jovial bluff]

^

I agree

Engagements and disengagements are iffy with rogue right now

[modern dune]

you monkies actually got wreckless nerfed?

long bow unchanged but wreckless gutted?

"lets take 1 dam from longbow thatll work"

[grizzled yacht]

can someone explain to me why shark tooths are like annoying impossible to get

I've killed 6 of these stupid sharks now and they haven't dropped a single one

[limber trellis]

why do ppl act like you shouldnt be able to play arena unless you have every single piece of gear bis even if youre out performing them

[clever dawn]

am i the only one having random fps drops? once i open up the game, i have stable, high fps, but the other time, i got like -50% my regular fps XD

[young vessel]

they drop a lot in HR from my experience

[upbeat plank]

Anyone else feel like you should be able to set your inentory with just a button so you dont have to spend 30 seconds organizing after buying from the merchants

[fringe surge]

does physical healing apply to second wind? or is that not how it works?

[random sinew]

What are the cosmetic quest rewards this wipe and who gives them? Collector, goblin, etc.?

[iron elk]

guys whats the best way that I can get a gold coin chest?

[fringe surge]

I've found hitting 3 piles a game in ice caves, but still low chances

me and my trio has gotten about 4 this wipe so far from ice caves anyways

[iron elk]

so I just go and farm in ice cave tbh?

[random sinew]

Or you get one from huntress quests gold coin reward.

[unreal rampart]

Do you know the chance to get it

[fringe surge]

not off the top of my head, but named is 1/20000 so has to be better than that

i think its a .5-1% chance

[mortal pike]

Does gear feal impactful right now? like in a fun way?

[hollow stirrup]

so can every weapon parry now? saw someone parry with a spear

[fringe surge]

every weapon can but bows

they added parry for melee weapons i think the best one since they done that is spear! got hella reach and High DMG

[grizzled yacht]

Ooh okay, I'll give that a try. Thanks!

[clear pendant]

yes, game is in a great state rn no cap

[mortal pike]

so there is a lot of build diversity?

[errant dawn]

Giggest cappa i seen in my life 🫣

[mortal meadow]

i found a second secret ice abyss free pile... but Im not telling anyone\

[earnest bay]

how can i reliably check when the next wipe is

[mortal pike]

thats the fun part

y o u d o n t

[earnest bay]

aw man

[mortal pike]

other than the timer in the season ranking

[earnest bay]

when is the next one roughly would you say, if you know

[mortal pike]

i really have no idea, if i had to guess id say a month and a half?

[clear pendant]

meta is meta, but gear gap is so good

[earnest bay]

thanks man, i appreciate it

[clear pendant]

obviously some builds are so powerful when full bis leg

but removing true damage was a good idea

[mortal pike]

is gear gap what end game should be? not diversity between the best builds, but just having a difference in how much you invested into it?

[clear pendant]

im lost i dont understand the question

[hollow stirrup]

ouu i used to love spear but i became a morning star enjoyer but i run shields so i cant parry ;-;

[mortal pike]

i guess like there are a lot of builds based on skills and perks but i feel like the gear isnt doing much lifting in that area.

[turbid onyx]

Builds that actually work and are competitive, no not really.

[fringe surge]

take off your sheild for a few mobs and see how u like parrying with morning star, u actually will be surprised about the dmg output

[clear pendant]

you can play offmeta builds like crystal sword fighter but the stats you need to be optimal are kinda obvious

[errant dawn]

Just play barbar And press w And click to Attack thats it in blue gear you can deal 300 dmg ...

[clear pendant]

certain action speed, magic pen, mr pdr vigor you know

[turbid onyx]

Unless you're maelstrom, true shot longbow ranger. You die it's your fault or another ranger lmfao

[uncut lake]

yo wtf is up with the dcs

and i know its not just me

[indigo ginkgo]

? DO we get anything from winning in the arena?

[turbid onyx]

Accomplishment

[hollow stirrup]

does parry do double damage like longsword or is that longsword specific

[fringe surge]

im not 100% sure cause longsword gets a buff from perks

[turbid onyx]

All two handed parries got nerfed. They are all different across the board now

[deep ingot]

How come there are people stealing boss loot in pve running full bis. like im a new player trying to learn boss mechanics. how come there are so many unskilled losers in pve mode greifing everyone.

[turbid onyx]

Rapier and Cutlass got nerfed because the parry is so damn good at actually intercepting strikes that every single other weapon felt like dog afterwards

[turbid onyx]

Gold farmers

[deep ingot]

we need some kind of reporting feature for these greifers in pve mode

should i just queue a dead server to learn the bosses? is the ping gonna be rough for the boss fights?

got griefed 2 times on na sever and eu

these people arent even doing the bosses themselves they just go to every gold chest as bard and open it then wait until someone does the boss and steal loot

idgaf about the loot i just want to do the boss in peace without another person coming into the room who isnt planning on actually doing any damage to the boss

[stone idol]

i play dead servers

depends on your internet

[buoyant rivet]

Anyone know how toa ccess the Dwarven Door in the gobbo caves hell?

[mortal pike]

ive been also wondering that

[hollow stirrup]

Ahh okayy i was just curious on the damage values, like is it ever worth to parry or just use shield typa thing

[deep ingot]

you think its just better to run it on normals and deal with the pvp>

[stone idol]

mhm

i tend to rarely find pvp

and if i do i end up winning with a bow so

[deep ingot]

well im runnning as plate lock so i can take perks to reduce damage the boss does to me

probs will get cooked in a pvp fight

[turbid onyx]

Oh 100% it's worth it to parry, but it does depend on the weapon youre up against. Halberds are so popular right now because insane DMG and a lot of weapons parry doesn't actually stop the next swing

[stone idol]

just do it squire and not care for the pvp

[stone idol]

eh dont worry about that

i would honestly learn it on bard

[deep ingot]

i am doing squire

[stone idol]

fastest boss killer

[deep ingot]

naw i hate that class xD

im learning it on lock then i will do it on rouge i think

i just want to learn the mechanics not farm it

[hollow stirrup]

ouu okay, how about morning star? its gonna be my main weapon since im a cleric main

[deep ingot]

honstly i think i would rather die in pvp then some bard with 1 braincell camping

[turbid onyx]

Plate lock, kris, with shadow touch and infernal pledge is kinda disgusting for learning the undead/demon bosses. You can just ignore GK jump

[stone idol]

huh?

wym

[short vigil]

they actually need to nerf bard, for 4 songs, you basically have full kit on.

[stone idol]

bard literally is music

[stone idol]

not really?

[short vigil]

the buffs and movement speed = full kit

without the kit

[turbid onyx]

I haven't messed with morning star much, I am a hammer fan! I typically don't try and block with the weapons that don't have a duelist parry. Just holding the weapon horizontal ain't going to stop most swings unless you know exactly where to look and that's hella practice

[stone idol]

just isnt

[short vigil]

I don't think you understand what buffs the bard gets then

[stone idol]

i do

+7 phys power

yes cool

but you have more dex then me

[hollow stirrup]

mm okayy because i was curious abt it, so morning star can block but no riposte?

[short vigil]

movement speed too is the biggy

[stone idol]

your full kit will win if your half decent

ive killed kits but thats by kiting and using surv bow

in trade for trade hits bard looses to most match ups

[turbid onyx]

Oh they can all riposte! Sorry I use block/parry/riposte interchangeably. They are kinda all the same here

[short vigil]

lmfao ya you can definitely get lucky. but if you're fighting a bard that is equally skilled and equally geared, its luck that makes you win

and if they're a 7k one character main, you're fuked no matte what with the buffs they get

[hollow stirrup]

ohh the same way as ls? just press the parry button again after landing it?

[stone idol]

fighter gets full pdr..

and beats us in range

we have rapier as are main weapon

most classes out range it

[turbid onyx]

Yup! If the weapon you parry has to much impact power though you don't get to do the parry

[tacit tangle]

Is there any point or reward for doing the Navigator quest line or the Miner quest line? Other than the usual rubbish items?

[short vigil]

most fights aren't at range is the problem

[brittle wing]

bro can we get people abusing ping with tank characters out of the game?????

[short vigil]

this isn't arc raiders

[hollow stirrup]

ouu i see, so a morning star wouldnt be able to parry like a bardiche

[stone idol]

broither you dont udnerstand

[brittle wing]

i'm getting hit from miles away while blocking from a guy with bajillion ping

[turbid onyx]

I once Jedi dueled a fighter and warlock both with halbs, just slowly blocked everything until I died unable to actually swing back lmfao

[stone idol]

bardiche has higher reach then rapier

long sword exists

halberd

[short vigil]

you can literally kite the barb and fighter easy

movementspeed is king

we all know this

[stone idol]

exactly "kite"

[brittle wing]

unless they're ping abusing

[short vigil]

are you new to games ?

[stone idol]

thats not hit for hit

i said bard is loosing in ahit for hit

[short vigil]

you said that, I didn't

[stone idol]

an you said they will win

[short vigil]

I said they're op

[stone idol]

there not though

thats the point xD

[short vigil]

barb needs nerf

bard**

[stone idol]

barb needs a nerf not bard

[brittle wing]

bard needs a nerf why

[stone idol]

hes upset our songs give us buffs

that mst clases passives get???

[short vigil]

lmfao you must be like 15 or something

[stone idol]

nah you just cant pvp clearly most classes already have passive buffs

so bard has to play music to get there buffs

[brittle wing]

bards have lower baseline stats

[turbid onyx]

"let's take a game where there is one literal, clearly defined, end all be all, king of melee, and and it'll be competitive pvp." Jfc facepalm

[alpine wing]

does anyone know a spectral knight video that shows a close to the boss dodge of the pointed up phasing sweep that doesnt utilize a shield and uses rapier?

[stone idol]

just run

drag boss to a corner

[alpine wing]

no

[stone idol]

put rapier away run to other corner

[alpine wing]

never

[stone idol]

then die to phase

or parry it

[alpine wing]

i need a close up dodge

[stone idol]

by aiming at its head

[short vigil]

yeah you can run away from everything as bard super fsat

[stone idol]

or use hsield

[alpine wing]

hm

[short vigil]

or you can get good, andlearnhow to jump it

[stone idol]

shield

[stone idol]

BROTHER

[alpine wing]

i can block it with shield

[stone idol]

you can do it with 295 MS

[alpine wing]

but i want to increase dps

[stone idol]

which is what FIGHTER has

[alpine wing]

so i need a dodge w out shield

[stone idol]

then duck then jump??

[alpine wing]

does it matter where u stand

if ur right next to it

[brittle wing]

yeah

[turbid onyx]

Get good lmfao the bosses are all memory DDR fights, not really anything good or engaging going on

[stone idol]

ehh think u need to be a little back

[short vigil]

yeah, it'll lunge towards your location when he started the attack

[alpine wing]

hm

[brittle wing]

you need to adjust your jump timing depending on how far away from the swing

[alpine wing]

should i be in front of him

or like to the side

[brittle wing]

start of the swing*

[sudden sorrel]

so is crashing on maelstrom a thing now?

[short vigil]

you need to jump, based on VFX sound for the animation

[alpine wing]

ye

[brittle wing]

if you're about within 15 degrees to the front of him you can jump a bit after the swing sound

[short vigil]

if you pay attention to the model, eventually you'll die to desync.

[brittle wing]

15 degrees in the swing direction

[alpine wing]

okayy

ty

[brittle wing]

you'll get used to it after a while too

[alpine wing]

i'll try it out

[brittle wing]

so you'll be able to adjust to other locations

[agile tide]

Bangle Lord giving a bag now is some buuuulllsheeet

[mortal pike]

so does anyone have a max level workbench

[jovial bluff]

Does anybody have any general tips for trading?

[mortal pike]

item isnt worth shit until its sold

[jovial bluff]

Mainly talking about selling kits and all that

I’m really confused on how to make money.. I’m broke asf

[mortal pike]

can you explain further

you want an easy farming method?

[jovial bluff]

Unless I have to wait like 5 years, how am I supposed to sell kits? Cause I heard that was one of the best ways to make money

[jovial bluff]

Ya

[mortal pike]

idk about selling kits, like in the chat channels?

[jovial bluff]

In the trading post yeah

[mortal pike]

id just sell gems if i were you

[glacial sand]

is pve going to get its own server?

[jovial bluff]

I just do rogue path but I genuinely hate doing this

[mortal pike]

you can just hit the barnacles on the water map sea floor

or sell wood

both easy wood is tedious

obviously on high roller

for most gains

keep +2 weapon dmg items and +3 stat items like strength and scroll the market until you see a trend for that stat in +3 or +2

and price accordingly

and thats pretty much the master class

[agile tide]

Does Captain's key room just suck

Seems awful

[mortal pike]

pretty much, one spawns randomly outside of it anyway so you dont need the key

[jovial bluff]

How much does this usually make you

?

[mortal pike]

uh 1 run of wood can make you like 3k

you cant leave until half the match is over in ruins

the gems can make you 500 in one run or 5000 depending on your luck

[jovial bluff]

Gems? What do you mean

🤔

[mortal pike]

hit the barancles on the sea floor

theyre like gray brown little capsules

theres a lot and they drop gems and a treasure everytime

[jovial bluff]

They’re usually on like the edge of the map right?

[mortal pike]

i guess

[queen gyro]

is it worth buying gold edition ?

[tame oxide]

No

[compact hazel]

I have a challenge on forgotten castle breaking 10 pots one match which floor has the most

[young vessel]

probably crypt but there are enough to get it done in ruins

[twin edge]

Has anyone pulled an Artifact from Treasure Hoard in one of the Boss Rooms at Blue Maelstrom? (not the Captain Key)

I checked data files and it looks like the 0.1% Artifact chance on roll is only for Super Hoard and Super Hoard only spawns at Captain's Key, both boss room hoards are regular hoards.

[crisp crag]

users ENTER666 and singer006 currently full on teaming on Highroller Maelstrom west coast. Highroller teaming is so beyond out of hand and none of my reports have been acted on

[jovial bluff]

Anybody have tips on trading? (Trading post)

[fringe surge]

If your meaning Legendary status, i would say yes. HR has the best loot! However, HR has some mighty players and most the time have full bis kits so def would need a kitted set!

Also i avoid Solo's with a passion for teaming issues!

[dapper lagoon]

is there a way to stop the bug where you can't put down traps or campfires?

[austere quiver]

what do i do with honeybliss pear?

[warm tendon]

Anyone pro Spectral Knight I have some question?

[mortal pike]

i really want to know what rebuilding a unique item does.

[crisp crag]

reroll

[mortal pike]

like a chaos orb, thats crazy

[warm tendon]

It will just reroll the enchantments

[mystic coral]

So in 9 runs ive only seen the wraith lair 2 times is it not a common module or some?

[mortal pike]

you mean modifier or whatever right

like from weapon damage to physical damage

[warm tendon]

They random enchantment roll that is on it. The last line

[warm tendon]

Wraiths can spawn in many modules

[mystic coral]

Really?

[mortal pike]

so unique scrap is super valuable right

[fringe surge]

it could but its at random so u might end up with demon dmg bonus

[mortal pike]

can you only roll one time?

[warm tendon]

Yes there are many modules that have a wraith in it

[fringe surge]

I dont think so, dont think their is a cap on it

[mortal pike]

wtf thats crazy then

[fringe surge]

costs mats and gold so it shouldnt

[mortal pike]

cant you just buy a halberd and spam it until you get weapon dmg

[fringe surge]

prob but low odds for it

itll def be a check

if money isnt your issue then u should be okay

XD

[mortal pike]

i just checked and its rapier, not halberd

super small weapon dmg range

+3 is 20k

[toxic apex]

I am getting a little tired of the same arena maps. I think it would be cool if we got the new ruins modules with no mobs as arena maps.

[random sinew]

Yo who has the cosmetic rewards from quests this season and what are the rewards?

[warped inlet]

is warlock better than cleric in terms of pve?

[warm tendon]

Depends on your build and how the cleric is built but in general I would say yes warlock is a bit nicer to use against pve

[warped inlet]

alright what about warlock or barbarian

[warm tendon]

again depends on the build. If you go flamewalk on warlock it trump most other classes in terms of clear speed.

[static carbon]

hi guys
what have more price: chest or catise??

[gusty cradle]

this giant jellyfish daily just bugged or what? killed it 3 times now =/

[dense grove]

catice

[warm tendon]

Thats not the one you need for the quests. There are 3 jellyfish under the bridge at the blade hand boss.

[static carbon]

tell me in spec pls)

[gusty cradle]

dont play water map much where is bladehand?

[static carbon]

do u know price in spec?

[dense grove]

nah idkl

[static carbon]

emae

[warm tendon]

Top left

[gusty cradle]

thanks

[static carbon]

какая цена у катиса?

[jolly snow]

How do you obtain rings rn? Haven’t seen a single one all wipe

Like naturally, not off the market

[static carbon]

what price for catise? in spec

[warm tendon]

You craft them, buy them from the gobo merchant or get them from specific static loot locations in the dungeon. Locked rooms

[gusty cradle]

gotta craft them now or there's one spawn behind the iron door on castle first floor in a box

[jolly snow]

Who do you craft them at? Like is it a merchant service?

[warm tendon]

Goldsmith, you will need to do the quests.

[jolly snow]

Thanks a lot

[static carbon]

why u not help me...

[gusty cradle]

those ones didn't count either rip

[maiden crypt]

arena needs a 1v1 mode

[tropic brook]

1/5 compromise on sdf?

[warm tendon]

What quest are you doing (the name of it)?

[gusty cradle]

its just the daily for valentine to kill a giant jelly. killed 3 of them and 6 of the small ones no credit just bugged i guess

[warm tendon]

Oh, yeah that I do not know which ones you need to kill. Thought you were doing the quest line of another merchant. Sorry.

[tame elbow]

if you max out golbin npc he gives back all your staff? if you die with pve in highroll

[indigo ginkgo]

Taking a while to get an arena match.
This is good, all the uber geared can go back to seal clubbing in the dungeon!

[daring reef]

I am genuinely confused what made them pick these maps for arenas, some of the most boring modules ever

[mystic coral]

May be a dumb question but can pve do key rooms i looked uo the gold key to see and it said the door or what ever is in highroller

[daring reef]

the key rooms are in all versions

pve, norms, hr and s2r

[mystic coral]

Ok ty

So is the mystical gem a guaranteed drop from cave troll then?

[fallen dragon]

Not sure but we need to make the devs aware of this

[pliant sand]

Hey guys quick question, where do I find a current map of the forgotten castle?

the one on the wiki is uotdated I think

[jovial bluff]

Does anybody have general tips on trading? Specifically kits

[unique mason]

that goblin quest with 2 lion chest has to be the most miserable quest, ive been doing goblin for 30 games, doing every single spot, never got 2 in a single game

always 1

[jovial bluff]

No

[unique mason]

its always the flat chest

[indigo ginkgo]

Nothing is ever guaranteed.

[scarlet nacelle]

2nd floor counts as well but its still random

[indigo ginkgo]

The maps are partially random, but the old static maps can give you ideas of room names and where things 'may be'

[pliant sand]

ah ok I see, well I guess then I just have to trip over the greathall C at some point

but is there different variations of the greathall? like a, b and c?

[lament matrix]

Barbs need a major NERF

[indigo ginkgo]

The Nerf for the Barb is the Wizard

[rotund cedar]

so we're gonna stop people from playing other maps and high roller until theyre a higher rank but i have to play against people 5 ranks higher than me every game anyway?

[spice nymph]

where do i find the tidewalker clubman?

[plain marlin]

if i play a fighter with the block perks (weapon guard, shield mastery, counter attack) a lot of monsters especially goblins you block their attacks but cant riposte... its like counter productive...

[grizzled citrus]

just take off weapon guard. the impact resistance is making it too short of a window for reposte.

[rigid depot]

where the hell is double stone door. i opened the skull key room and didnt get quest

[mortal pike]

dude, we used to trade kits in the trade channel in 2022-23 because there was no market. no wants to do that ish again unless its super niche and specific to a build, just put each piece on the market and base the price on the stat that cost the most which is usually a main stat like strength and dexterity.

[hollow stirrup]

how do ppl know whats a "dead" server

[grizzled citrus]

when you go to the 2-3 poi and nobody is there

[hollow stirrup]

what i mean is, like, they say stuff "i only play dead servers to go hunt bosses" but how do they find them

[daring reef]

wait wiz is lowk easy

i'm cooking people in arenas, never played this class b4

[lucid solstice]

love that when I'm shooting my bow sometimes the arrow just disappear and nothing gets shot and there's no arrow flying trail like huh phantom arrow?? plz fix

[elfin oyster]

where do i find these jellyfish

[grizzled citrus]

just timezones man. if its off peak hours in an unpopulated timezone there will be far less people.

[hollow stirrup]

mmm okayy

[grizzled citrus]

you change the slelect server to somewhere thats like 2 am or something. like right now east/west coast NA is going to be most poplulated

[austere geyser]

@little summit @zinc sparrow @glad thunder Why the hell does it take over 20 seconds to change characters (i9 11900, 3080Ti)

[gleaming condor]

why the hell does it auto-select 3v3s by default

[sharp parcel]

depend on the mod ur playing, if fits PVE then its trios

if pvp then u can select solo on the left

[plain marlin]

if i was a developer i would make changing characters take that long too.. encourage you to go ahead and get that seasonal stash tab, its like catnip

[austere geyser]

This might be the dumbest thing I've read on the internet ever

[plain marlin]

like when i go to work, we have not enough computers to work on, so they removed the chairs. when they removed the chairs, people dont camp on the computers as long

[austere geyser]

bro what

lol

[plain marlin]

its only dumb if your a youngling

[austere geyser]

youre*

LOL

I'm older than you AND I'm a developer.

[plain marlin]

then you must make bad games

[austere geyser]

You're unemployed and your grammar doesn't help

[mental sand]

guys whats the best class for trios random que s2r?

[gleaming condor]

it's pvp, whenever I change the map the default is 3v3 for some reason (which I bet doesn't make sene since most people play games solo)

[cinder plover]

yo whats loot rarity cap for this seasdon in arena? and is it ssf?

[grand beacon]

is melt -15% flat or like -15% from total. like if you got 50% armor are you going down to 42.5% or 35%

[warm tendon]

Fl;at, it will be 35%

[warm tendon]

rarity cap is "epic" and it does not have to be SSF.

[frigid sleet]

does head shot damage bonus apply to magic?

[warm tendon]

on projectiles yes but most likely not on hit scan spells.

[hardy stump]

hitscan spells also do limb modifiers

[warm tendon]

in that case it should apply

[lilac cloud]

What was price of spectral bags before gold dupe

[thorn rampart]

Day 3 false bayunnn

[pallid hemlock]

streaming is not optional, being false banned is

[edgy sable]

LOL

[zinc quarry]

anyone know how to fix error occured code 21?

[empty hill]

Anyone know what quest you have to do for weaponsmith so you can make void blade?

[crimson lava]

im so new and noob 😄

[tulip mirage]

What's going on with high roller? Solo qued and have been waiting 25 mins for a game

[edgy sable]

maybe u are select jp server

[tulip mirage]

US east. I'm not sweaty enough to fight the Asians and make it out.

[tacit tangle]

Can we get a VETO option for the arenas. Some maps are just trash for the specific class.

[edgy sable]

nvm u said solo hmm no idea then

[brittle barn]

Why are Team vs Solo queues not separate in arena? Nothing more cringe than solo queueing and fighting the same sweaty pre made comp 10x in a row

[sand valve]

you're**

[obsidian shell]

all, iirc

[twin edge]

Hopefully when marketing starts some time later you won’t be fighting same people over and over again.

[stone oak]

because not enough people play the game

[twin edge]

Playerbase so small now you can recognize people by how they move in game

[west wadi]

maybe u play too much

[brittle barn]

I mean the only reason solo/trio queue isnt split is cause of lack of ppl in the first place, but these sort of things are circular. Not enough people to split queues -> less people want to play game because of issues like that -> not enough people to split queues...

[tacit tangle]

Well that does not help. Solo or duo player will just stop playing the game all together.

[twin edge]

Totally agree. I think we are just testers for DnD 😄

and hopefully the great times are ahead!

[brittle barn]

I just wanna play arena solo queue without throwing half the games cause the other team is some jobless mfers in a discord making the perfect comp, running trolls blood/purp prot pots & green bandies mannn

lemme just fight other solo queue mfers

shit even with the mixed queues im getting 5-10m queue timers so might as well

[twin edge]

I feel like I am the only returning / new player in the game and I am just fighting same sweaty full time, full BIS, dedicated 5000 hours players over and over again.

[brittle barn]

Arena queue issues could be mitigated by reducing the number of MMR bins tho

[twin edge]

are there even MMR bins? I will check in data files.

[brittle barn]

Yes absolutely lol? If youre 1400MMR youre not fighting 3000 MMR guys. Its half the reason the queue timing is so fkin bad

Once u go above 2500MMR ur falling asleep waiting for a match

[twin edge]

hmmm.. that’s interesting - I need to check what are the bins now you made me curious.

[brittle barn]

im guessing theres a bin around every 500mmr

theres also def some soft cap logic where if you're waiting over X seconds without getting a game, itll start putting you in lower/higher (usually lower) mmr brackets

I think its around 6 minutes

[noble verge]

cleric healing is unhinged rn after wiz and armor pen nerfs

[stone oak]

it was unhinged before. healing a barb from zero to full was never fine

[brittle barn]

Dw they nerfed Healer druid tho lmao

[stone oak]

kinda? duration buffs mean it stacks better with will now

i think they'll be better in longer fights since their heals will last a good bit longer

[brittle barn]

They literally nerfed its heal amounts and scaling last update

Thats not kinda

[stone oak]

not its amounts just scaling right?

yeah just scaling

but becasue they buffed duration it'll scale better with will than it did before, since it'll increase your healing and duration, but the duration will scale much more

nerf with compensation to make them even better in drawn out fights

and since they like heal stacking anyway its kind of a bonus imo, but would have to see how it really feels to play

[brittle barn]

Dog the "buff duration buff" was just pendants/capes, the rest is unchanged

that was with the wipe, not recent update

Healer cleric heals 5x as much rng, and doesnt need to wait forever for it to hit

Cleric sanc single handely means cleric wins the long fight too

Healer druid was a rarity before, just dead now

Cleric is obscenely overdue for nerfs

[stone oak]

i saw way more of them this wipe than clerics

like way way more. 1 to 10

[brittle barn]

Fuckin where? I was seeing 10x clerics

[stone oak]

duos to be fair

not sure. they for sure are not weak

[brittle barn]

Duos youll see hybrids, but rarely full on healer druids

if they have shapeshift, not a healer druiod

[stone oak]

natures touch and restore stacking is insane healing, and with it lasting 12-16 seconds its gonna be gross

[stone oak]

bro, i know what a healer druid is.

[brittle barn]

dog healer druid is shit in solo/duos, its only viable in trios

it scales with number of teammates

i have no clue what servers ur on

[stone oak]

i didn't say it was good, just that their healing output is

obviously it scales with number of people and is bad in solos?

[brittle barn]

Right so why tf would there be alot in duos? Makes 0 sense

Thats some pve shit

[grand beacon]

arena would be sweet without ranger

[brittle barn]

Anyways though, my entire point isnt that healer druid = bad, my point is that Cleric = insanely OP

Imagine arena with no healers

just pure "Who is better" cinema

[worn latch]

Keep arena open

[west wadi]

build against them and its really fun when they have a ranger

[twin edge]

Did anyone got an artiffact from any (Bladehand or Stingray) Treasure Hoard? Not directly from boss or the Captain's Key.

[errant dawn]

Druid was shit unplayable ... IT was reason why the braindead devs nerft it also wizzard almost unplayable in solo hmm what we can do nerf evrything will be rly great 😂😂😂🫣🫣🫣🫣 soo silly devs it is almost unreal how much they are silly 😂

[pine pawn]

im going to be 100% honest, PvE servers shouldnt drop boss items, i feel like if you want to get that wyvern, troll, spectral, lich loot. It should be pvp. im tired of trying to learn a boss such as wyvern and theres already an artifact/legendary wielding boss rusher having had killed said boss within 1 min of the lobby being open. im not mad, im just tired of not even getting the chance to die to said boss to learn it

[errant dawn]

I think they do it in purpose just make the game unplayable shit shut Down the servers and just enjoy our money 🤔

[plain marlin]

i mean, if they gave a small window for the person who did the most damage to loot the boss first, it would be fine

and yes i only read the first sentence

maybe an offline mode for boss practice

[pine pawn]

yeah thats what i was thinking, ironmace could finally do something like that since they dont have nexon on there asses anymore

[plain marlin]

i dont know...their legal stuff isnt over yet is it?

[tacit tangle]

I never had any problems learning any boss in game. And you learn 90% of how to fight a boss from Youtube and then you apply it in game. Fighting a boss without knowing any of his moves is just straight up dumb. And you can't even fight nightmare bosses in PVE and they are different and have different moves.

[plain marlin]

yea but some people learn from doing, others learn better by watching

[pine pawn]

yeah, nightmare bosses are highroller, ussueally in high roller you have a good number of hours under your belt in the first place.

[tacit tangle]

Good luck going vs skeleton warlord without knowing his moves or without using youtube. You will lose a ton of gear and time. And the nightmare boss, lol good luck.

[plain marlin]

yup, some people in squire gear will run at him and learn it better and faster than the youtube, it happens

[tacit tangle]

So you are gonna go all the way to the second level in square gear and hoping you will get the skeleton warlord and not the lich just so you can practice instead of using youtube? Cool bro.

[pine pawn]

yeah, iv done that

[plain marlin]

i wouldnt, i'd study first, but some people different strokes you know

[tacit tangle]

Nothing better when you get the lich 4 times in a row.

[pine pawn]

tell me about it, iv got him down pretty well tho. i remember bum rushing spec as barb when i first started and died a good probably 50 tiems before my first kill lo;

but warlord just was a pain to learn since i had to constantly run to cripts till i got him, died then ran back

[tacit tangle]

Maybe you would have more success in a party. Parties usually gun down bosses fast.

[deep ingot]

is it just me or does cleric need a nerf

like the only class thats escaped any nerfs

[true sundial]

i dont think so

wizard needs a nerf

[deep ingot]

they got nerfed

[true sundial]

still op asf

[plain marlin]

why nerf cleric? is this arena related? lol

[warm ingot]

Id like to request a video of any ironmace employee completing fire boss on a class other than warlock or jollytime bard solo or bloodthirst. Surly this is easy because they tested this right... right?

[night ermine]

Does anyone lost items after the extraction ??? Some of my gear and some of my envantory is just disappeared after i took blue portals in ruins

[pallid hemlock]

im perma banned from skinnypetes chat for saying that to someone there

[pallid hemlock]

yea thats been happening a lot, no mention of it from devs

[regal hatch]

hey what is a old rusty key worth these days

[pallid hemlock]

cant extract keys from dungeon

[plain marlin]

server desyn possibly, i have lost a shield before when i extracted

[next epoch]

you cant extract with them anymore, they disappear when you do

[regal hatch]

huh? sorry just started playing again after a year

what that mean

[next epoch]

means you gotta use them

[pallid hemlock]

yuh, they changed it. they are "dungeon only" items now

[regal hatch]

damn so you cant take like mystic gym and stuff out

[pallid hemlock]

nope

[regal hatch]

weird

[night ermine]

they take 3-5 days to fix it as usual but remember to report this bug

i dont understand so if i get viola from dungeon its gonna disappear or what bro

[plain marlin]

yup like 0.01% chance of item poof from the occasional broken server

[pallid hemlock]

i think its mainly worn clothing and armor, i think unequipping everything could technically help but no one would have space for that

[plain marlin]

keep your hands empty when you exit map

[night ermine]

always like that and this happened to me 3 straight games on ruins i think ima quit for a while

[night ermine]

yeah i kept my weapons and most of the envantory

[restive sand]

why are troll pelts, spectral fabric, and coin bags dropping so much right now?

[plain marlin]

i think the devs talked about that, it was some combo of not just dupe but people hoarding things, but it got fixed and people calmed down

so the prices went back down

[balmy dock]

what drops the rusty iron key ive killed cockatrice and golem a bunch of times but they never drop it

never find it in chests either lol

[restive sand]

will the prices go back up? probably not right?

[plain marlin]

possible.. maybe we'll have another mass hysteria when someone figures out the next dupe or glitch and sparks the hoarding process again

[restive sand]

what is the logic behind hoarding items because of a dupe? im curious. i dont know about this

i dont follow anything i just game

[plain marlin]

people do it all the time. like when people hear a snowstorm is coming and the grocery store is suddenly empty

[restive sand]

ok fear of not having the items

i have like 40k saved up im trying to figure out how to invest. Ive never had much gold until now

I finally started doing normals and HR and i have 2 whole pages of small coin bags full. I want to know what the best thing to do with it all is

Oh yeah. Heres a question about questing. Where do you find the "misplaced muffin" to start the alchemist quest line?

[tacit tangle]

Yeah they removed it from semi bosses. Now it can be dropped from bosses and those coffer chests. The ones that usually contain only gold and trinkets.

[tame elbow]

MAX golbin npc give you all your stuff back?

[brittle barn]

I love how solos has just slowly been ruined by teaming rogues

[green harbor]

oh yeah

[brittle barn]

just got away from 3 rogues teaming on me

very fun

[green harbor]

is teaming legal or nah

like is it allowed

[brittle barn]

Its a bannable offense

but they give u a 2 day ban so...

[green harbor]

ohh

[pallid hemlock]

only in HR tho

[green harbor]

i was just wondering becaue there was this dude who wanted to team in solos

and i just uh

spinnied him

[brittle barn]

Yeah im in HR solos, nonstop teaming rogues

[green harbor]

with the whirlwind barb thing

[green harbor]

what counters rogue again?

I forgot havent played in a while

[brittle barn]

I mean theyre not that strong solo, but they just spam rupture range + caltrops and sub out whenever they get low

But id say like boc spell lock?

[green harbor]

yeah makes sense

[brittle barn]

Its crazy tho they just go around, loot all the high tier loot points, and run away and gang up on you if youre getting too close to killing one

[green harbor]

whats the best solo barb and fighter skill combo?

Is second wind still king

[west wadi]

in gear yea

[green harbor]

what abt if ur running homeless squire

[west wadi]

I wouldnt
would just run flag, adrenaline tbh

[brittle barn]

Feel like barbs a better homeless class personally

[rain apex]

the mystic gem pile on goblins can drop named?

or just the pile between troll and cyclop

[mortal meadow]

both

[green harbor]

alr thanks

[green harbor]

definitely

but my figure is closer to apprentice 3

And I can’t be stuck playing fucking forgotten castle forever

[balmy dock]

do you need skull key to open the double doors on normals?

[deep helm]

yerp

[balmy dock]

fuuu

[keen mauve]

Pretty sure you don't need skull key for double doors

[stone oak]

nah thats the one in front of the bridge to skull door that anyone can open

[balmy dock]

oohhh ok

[lament vale]

NuttySpence Berdicuth -- imisstm8dies Carinyyte

DUOS US EAST TEAMERS

care team

good luck out there

@vivid marlin you teaming brudda?

[edgy sable]

lol just saw that and thats crazy

def has a lot of 'i have been stream sniped paranoia over there'

[ivory vortex]

Can someone explain me that new Weapon Workshop?

[edgy sable]

you reroll items

[ivory vortex]

So you can scrap dog weapons and then craft weapons with random rolls and hope for BiS?

[dim geode]

i peepee and i poopoo

[edgy sable]

you dont really craft you reroll an existing with scrap costs but yes you got it right otherwise

Could reroll a frostlight item and not need more ore

[ivory vortex]

that sounds actually pretty good, gives more value to bad weapons and makes getting BiS gear easier

[deep helm]

wrong chat asswhipe

[brittle barn]

oh my mistake, watch yo profanity

[deep helm]

oh hell no, only reason i do is the filter

[brittle barn]

https://klipy.com/gifs/watch-your-mouth-watch-your-profanity

[deep helm]

can someone tell me why the Golden Scripture of Solaris is a thing? Like i get a joke item but damn lol it actually slaps as a weapon

[balmy dock]

is there a best class for learning warlord?

[lament vale]

probably cleric so you can use the AOE attack that blows up the mobs every 30 sec.

but best way to do it is just to try and try..

[deep helm]

is there a weapon i can craft from my weaponsmith that gives demon dmg bonus (he is affinity 150 fyi)

[minor sequoia]

how tf is cock always bugged this shit constantly petrifies me when im behind it and doest freeze anyone else even if theyre directly in front of it

[deep helm]

wait wait wait, we can say cock?

holy shit, this is a brand new day for me

[strong flint]

is the game still bad i havnt played since they releced the water map

[deep helm]

it is playable kind of. Water map isnt tho

[lyric bough]

so magic staff, spellbook, and orb all increase cast speed right? is the exact percentage listed somewhere?

[uncut lake]

lol whole game is just stacking pdr

[deep helm]

u rnt wrong and thats what sucks. Highest pdr wins. A high pdr can even beat a 2 shot barb

[uncut lake]

yeah im ngl this kinda just ruined it for me

if i outplayu somneone 15 times in a fight and they just stack pdr

[fervent anvil]

try building armour pen or playing a magic class

[uncut lake]

its hjust no run

i had 45% armor pen

lolol

its just beat

build health pdr u win

end of story

full blues took me 7 hits on a tank squire fighter

like be real

[lime kraken]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CAN WE FIX BLADEHAND

[fervent anvil]

what class were you on? and what build

[lime kraken]

people should not be able to troll you fighting blade by being under the island...what are the devs doing...

[fringe zealot]

It petrifies if you look at it during that attack. Turn away and you are good

[floral pendant]

how do i report someone following me around saying the hard R over and over again

[stone oak]

armor pen is bad because of the way the math works with this game. 50% armor pen doesn't reduce their PDR by 50%

it reduces their armor rating by 50% but you get more PDR per point of armor when you less of it

[gentle remnant]

How do you submit clips of people teaming if you have the game through steam? because there is a report page for it on the website right?

[elfin oyster]

since when was whispering friends only

[indigo valve]

recently

[keen mauve]

Pretty sure ingame ESC --> support then do a ticket

[sudden iron]

Does anyone know how many upvotes I need to make my name blue?

[next epoch]

6 or so

[sudden iron]

Ok bet thanks man

[novel hawk]

when yoi tpp0 ne frreimlmfpr dmd]

[balmy dock]

easiest way to farm legendary arcane essence?

[novel hawk]

peace, guuys

[uncut lake]

@stone oak k soooooo then fix armor pen

bc all i see is people stacking pdr games beat

[west wadi]

turtles on water map

[main lintel]

have they undone the ridiculous wizard nerfs yet?

[brittle barn]

Bro the druid healing nerfs are actually ridiclous. Like can someone explain why nature's touch needed a nerf? 15 health with 0.33 scaling?? Bro a health pot is 20 health with 0.5 scaling. Like what the actual fuck

[sudden idol]

They love nerfing shit into the ground in this game

[brittle barn]

I love how drinking a health pot is a better use of my time for resetting than using my healing spells, yippie

[sudden idol]

I mean I love that every arena match is played range

Balance = non existent in a lot of cases

Barb is shit fighter dominates arena because barbs can't close gaps meanwhile your half health by the time you get in fighting range

[frigid sleet]

love destroying garbage fighters

with bear

sorry W key monkeys

[brittle barn]

Yeah fighters arent too bad, its the reckless barbs u gotta watch out for

and pot chugger is officially better than restore, so thats cool...

literally gets more base healing on a gray health pot with pot chugger, same duration, and better scaling
cinema

[sudden idol]

Ya reckless barbs slap once they get to you I shit on them with my fighter

I'll slap them with longbow 2x they run I chop them down

[frigid sleet]

wtf is magic interaction speed

after years

[sudden idol]

My buddy's bonk wiz slaps barbs lol

[static urchin]

@uncut lake what class are you

[brittle barn]

Restore: 20 hp, 0.33 scaling, over 10 seconds
Pot chugger gray health pot: 24 hp, 0.5 scaling, over 10 seconds.

Yet one requires spell slots, and one is basically free unlimited spam. Yall need to stop fkin nerfing druid heals, just nerf the healer perk so it stops shafting shapeshift druid

[sudden idol]

I think the devs need to allow more than 4 perks or add another skill slot

Their is no build diversity

[unborn bison]

they need to fix his servers period.

[analog summit]

how do you make sense of this in the dmg formula?

• ((1 - Damage Reduction * (1 + Damage Reduction Mod) * (1 - Penetration))

[west wadi]

I kinnda wish classes had a default 5th perk
like barb would have robust
something like that

[analog summit]

so say you have done all the rest up til which is 50 dmg

so 50 dmg multiply by (1 - 50%phys dmg reduction) so 25 dmg

that makes sense

but then you get armor penetration

[brittle barn]

PEMDAs lol?

[west wadi]

^

[brittle barn]

Armor pen is applied to the armor, then the new armor value is applied to the base damage

[analog summit]

1 - 50% =0.5 and then you take the 0.5 multiply by 1 - 50% armor pen =0.5 so the armor pen is reducing your own dmg

0.25

how does that make sense. so its taking your 50 dmg attavk and making it times 0.25

i still cant read it

armor pen 50% physical dmg reduction 50% from a 50 dmg attsck

so you take 50 reduce it by half = 25 dmg

[brittle barn]

armor pen applies first

[analog summit]

now get to armor pen it says take 25 and multiply by 0.5

so its like 12

[brittle barn]

so 50% of 50% damage reduction is now 25% damage reduction

so now instead of dealing 0.5x damage, you deal 0.75x damage

[subtle heart]

What price should I list my gold coin bag?

[analog summit]

ok so you take the 1 - 0.5 from reduction and then multiply that by 1 - armor pen which is 0.5 so its 0.25 what am i missing

seriously thats what it reads

[subtle heart]

Its stock keeps lowering I’m thinking about just reselling it for 15k before its too late

Am I making a mistake?

[brittle barn]

The new armor value is 0.25

[analog summit]

oh i c now

[brittle barn]

So then the damage dealt is (1-0.25) * base damage

[analog summit]

the parentheses are frocking awful bro

[brittle barn]

Lol they're a pretty standard way to represent that XD

[analog summit]

literally couldnt see there was not one on the right side of the damage reduction

no i know its just so many

so in generally 10% armor or magic pen is only affecting dmg by 5%

[brittle barn]

Yeah just gotta read it in layers

Its effect is stronger the higher their armor is

if a fighter has 75% armor, that reduces 100 dmg to 25 right

but if you have 10% armor pen, that 75% pdr becomes 67.5%

and now ur doing 32.5 dmg instead

which is a 30% damage increase

so on high pdr opponents, armor pen holds alllllot of value

[analog summit]

word

[hollow elbow]

what class wants buckled boots the most? any class by default?

[undone storm]

is quarterstaff good rn?

[jovial bluff]

Why don’t they add a trading channel in here?

[analog summit]

so say they have 75% pdr on your 100 dmg attack : you have 90% armor pen. you do 92.5 dmg. say you now have 100% armor pen its them 100dmg

[honest cedar]

130 health Rogue

• still getting 2 tapped
• This game is so bad right now

[unkempt prism]

how do you get the banner cosmetic? which merchant gives the quest

[latent agate]

SERVERS DOWN?A

[honest cedar]

is there a quest for silver coins? The auction is being silly atm

[winter mist]

items are disappearing when i get out of raid

[deep ingot]

player houses when

[tardy mural]

I love the new workshop they've implemented. I think it brings a lot of potential as a way to make players want to take gear over trinkets out of the dungeon. My only negative with it is I think although it increases accessibility, The system it self is lacking in that regard. I think it would benefit from a structural shrinkage or an ease of access to the earlier tiers. Of course you can just buy your way through the tiers.. but for lower available play hour players / newer players, investing your gold into this system might either be not appealing or just not feasible.

[compact urchin]

as a new player - I think it's cool it's there, but yea the upgrading etc, when I can just buy what I want from the market, idk, also could've used a little tutorial 😄

cos im still not sure, if i find a good green item with a +3 whatever, and I upgrade it to blue, does it keep it? or does it reroll modifier?

[tardy mural]

It does not keep rolls sadly.. There are a few videos on Youtube about the system. I believe Repoze has one that's "under 5 minutes long" if you're not looking for anything super in depth.

[compact urchin]

thanks man, ok I guess then Idk why I'd reroll green gear up - IDK haha as a new player I like it's here but not using it... don't see much benefit haha

[tardy mural]

I see the random craft, and upgrading as good options (particularly for arena if you mainly play norms it helps give you access to more purples). Also if you have a little bit of room in your inventory at the end of a run and can fit an extra blue or purple item in there you can turn it into scrap to sell.

I would like the reroll function if the gold sink wasn't like 2-3x the items market value or 4-5x the merchant value. (not counting the scrap cost on top of it)

[young kelp]

Greetings and salutations, I have a question. Is there a tutorial where I can learn to play or is this a “fuck it we ball” game?

[uncut lake]

build pdr

thats all u need to know

[compact urchin]

maybe just watch some firebox, urbangent, thelorr idk skinny pete - these are some popular streamers I watch and I learned most of the game from these guys

[grizzled arrow]

can someone explain to me like i'm 5 how to choose what stats to prio or gem for? for example, if I want more damage, I could use gems or buy items with strength, physical power, weapon damage, armor pen, etc. why would I choose one over the other

[compact urchin]

and of course from super helpful chatters like the guy above with PDR comment, cos I'm sure you know what PDR stands for if u just booted the game, I did, it was in the opening Lore cinematic

[young kelp]

Yeah I didn’t see a cinematic

[compact urchin]

depends on a build, fur some items give u more stats, some items come with str and then you can put pp or wd on them

[young kelp]

Granted I haven’t started a match yet if that’s when it happens

[compact urchin]

oh you didn't? what about the walkthrough, the 10 minute exact tutorial showing you every stage of the map? what about the great guide about game modes explaining what squire to riches is as opposedd to normals

[tardy mural]

Pve mode is a good intro to the game to learn the enemies, also a good place to try each of the classes. Learn their spells, abilities, and available weapons. For proper builds and pvp experience that would require youtube for sure and additionally just running it down a lot to learn.

[compact urchin]

no im just kidding there is nothing of the sorts, you gotta figure it out

[young kelp]

Fuck it we ball I guess

[compact urchin]

I recommend pve for a game or two, then squires to riches, then normals 😄

but yes learning from youtube guys

[grizzled arrow]

so if you wanted to build out a kit that had 3 main stats, say health, damage and move speed, there are certain pieces of gear you would want to have the specific stat on it because it rolls higher for that stat so you get more value?

[compact urchin]

it is very enjoyable to figure stuff out in this game honestly so i wouldn't sweat it

[hard crescent]

Playing Ranger in squire gear you’re going to get stomped 98% of the time in normals. Only the longbow is semi useable

[compact urchin]

I was building a barb yesterday and the guy gave me a whole build - it's int he barb channel if u look up my mentions, and that gives u a good philosophy for building, he said 'get this item WITH added str and dex' cos it already comes with the other two on it I guess?

[hard crescent]

Feel like norms used to be easier for no gear / few piece players. Now it’s only people with alot of gold who come in blue bis full kit

[compact urchin]

yea I found that too, it's difficult to find ungeared players but still WAY better than going into HR and running into turbo bis players

the gear gap between my shit blues and good blues is big but not as big as my crappy purples vs their bis in hr

[hard crescent]

Squires to riches needs to be solo only

It’s an issue

[compact urchin]

I wish there was normals but squire only 😄

and for solo

yea, but I guess for the number of players they're already concerned of the split of playerbase among modes

I miss the old style dungeon that revealed itself, loading into that with squire and just surviving and coming out with a new build I made ont he go, was the coolest experience for me as a solo

[hard crescent]

Players with high skill and hours you wouldn’t tell others you have in game, going to normals with fully slotted blue bis and stomping casuals is pushing away players

[stiff sentinel]

Does alchemist not craft grimsmile ring anymore? Is it goldsmith now?

[compact urchin]

yea I definitely found that

then me and my buddy went into PVE,but the dropswere so shit there was no point lol

now i farm water map, buy a kit, go into normals, lose it to someone with 2k+ hrs, and just keep repeating as I learn the game ;D

it is very difficult for new players too cos u mostly will run into veterans

it's VERY rare I run into a new player that is equally shit as I am

[hard crescent]

I played arena to get good at pve, I generally only lose to gear checks. But there’s far too many bullies in arena who talk so much trash and are terrible to listen to

Pvp*

[compact urchin]

heh yeah I gotta do more of that tbh

[uncut lake]

same bc every game run around looking for people kill hgtme get 3rd partied kill themg et 4th partied

[compact urchin]

but again, for new players = i dont think they can learn via that, just get stomped with arena unless u have a bis set to use

[uncut lake]

its so fking dumb

[compact urchin]

that's the reason I go into crypt or inferno as fast as I can

I get way way less third parties in there

[uncut lake]

its just beat they need to balance classes pdr is fucking busted

if u think any other wise ur coping and this is alll u got

[knotty pine]

day 49 of asking haste to be fixed so it doesn't destroy fps

[hard crescent]

Every time a wizard tries to cast haste I tell them no and run, don’t want my game to crash

[tribal zodiac]

Sad thing is even that you can meet veterans with 3k hours fighting in PvE lobby with artifacts. :d

[keen mauve]

Just play crystal sword class and PDR is useless

[swift grove]

whats wrong with that?

sad thing, why?

[raven hawk]

which workshop is best to level up?

[last basin]

anyone have a idea where i can find the old nautical chart fragment for the navigator quest?

[tribal zodiac]

Well PvE was suposed to be for new players etc..
You think this is alright?:)

For example my friend tried learn Spectral, he had no chance for around 2 hours trying to do it in PvE(He talked in voice etc etc..)

[tribal zodiac]

its better just buy item on market tho

[swift grove]

there are spawns all around the water map. you might be able to find a full spawn location guide on youtube or reddit but the ones I know of are the south end of abandoned ship (bottom mid) and on crates at circle island (mid right)

[swift grove]

"was supposed to be for new players" so its for new players? where does it say that? if its for new players why can veterans queue in?
seems like you just want to judge people for how they have fun

[last basin]

your the best i tried to look for a video . but i couldnt find one online for it sadlty

[main lintel]

have they reverted wizard changes yet??

[swift grove]

depends. the best use of workshop is to reroll unique drops like tanglethread trousers or thorn shield. I think the only WRONG answer is armor forge

even then, you only need level 3

[swift grove]

if your friend wants to learn spectral they can do it the same way literally everyone else did; grind for it.
or they can install test server and play by themselves

both extremely valid ways to learn

[tribal zodiac]

Ye well I guided him in norms and wiped ppl who came so. best way to learn :d

But to be fair, its kinda meh.
I understand why ppl do that, cuz its so easy to get money there. Atleast there are no Treasure hordes after spectral and basic bosses. That was so huge income for no risk.

[swift grove]

its like 1200g per run dude. if people are in pve for the money they're not smart

1:20 dropchance on pelts and fabrics vs 1:5 in HR or 1:10 in norms/s2r

[tribal zodiac]

Thats the thing, what I dont understand when someone run there with 2k+ hours.

[swift grove]

because its fun. some people like smashing through content in a god kit

same way people like smashing timmies in minmaxed pvp kits

[brittle barn]

invis shouldnt throw mob aggro, tired of fighting hoardes of rat rogues in HR solos who just never kill mobs cause mobs are literally their teammates since they just have to hit 1 button

[tribal zodiac]

Its our only way to troll people.
You can use invis pots too.

[brittle barn]

Cant move while using invis pots, arent unlimited, and arent instant

Problem is theyll rat u and when u get them low they pull 50 mobs and hit invis, now u have to leave the module

horrible design

[tribal zodiac]

Well any other classes have huge damage/sustain perks.
Rogue have this.

[brittle barn]

Rogue has high resourc for bandage spam for sustain & extremely high armor pen/dps. Rogue outdps trades any class besides barb or bear druid

Invis mob dumping insnt the solution to the classes shortcomings

Thats just bad design, give it something else instead

Promotes rat or "crow" gameplay

[clear pendant]

SDF KITCHEN IS BACK gg time to install rust again

[uncut lake]

@brittle barn WELL THAT SOUNDS FUN! lol

[brittle barn]

I deadass just had to kill 3 rogues back to back who were each ratting for eachother. Solos HR is a miserable experience rn

Conveniently chinese names hm

[tribal zodiac]

It does outdamage any in "Dps" term, but also die fastest of all.

I fight and spam suggestions over year and I hope there will be something new in future.
This game lack Skill Tree, Perk variability etc.

I dont want Hide/Invis in game too (and Im main Rogue). I would be much more happy for ability wheel(like casters have spells.) which would have smoke bomb,caltrops,blinding sand etc :))

[quasi plover]

iron will needs a nerf so bad

[brittle barn]

not the fkin pocket sand lmao

tank rogue out dpses (as in trades) pretty much anything but bear/barb

[viscid pumice]

do jelly fish essense spawn in the jellyfish mini boss? or only in the small ones

[brittle barn]

maybe not bard cause they got that action %

[tribal zodiac]

well but thats the thing.
ALL classes need some stat caps etc.

also you write about tank rogue.. good tank rogue kit cost twice/more than regular budget gear for barb for example. Rogue in high gear was always good.

[viscid pumice]

do jelly fish essense spawn in the jellyfish mini boss? or only in the small ones

[brittle barn]

Mid barb gear is hella cheap, but good barb gear is crazy expensive rn cause how popular the class is

[alpine wing]

what is the player user id?

is it just ur main name

[quasi plover]

wiz is so fucking annoying to face

[main lintel]

wizard is gutted

[summer scroll]

yo what room is skull key

[lethal badger]

Small ones!

[lethal badger]

Inferno Gate

[sturdy raptor]

rogue may outdps everyone but it does not matter when he gets 3shot by anyone in gear if shes lucky

[plush crystal]

anyone else not loading into matches and needing to restart game to load in?

[viscid pumice]

where do those spawn?

[lethal badger]

Ship Rest and Coral Forest are the ones I know, there are more out there

[viscid pumice]

appreciate it bro

[modest terrace]

love coming back to the game after 2 wipes for lock to still heal 10000000 hp with one spell on a skelly

[old cave]

dddoes a party member have to kill spectral knight or can i hop in pve and shoot it an finsh the quest?

[vivid rover]

The game crashes during the loading screen when I try to start it, and it does the same thing when I try to go back. What could be the reason?

[surreal terrace]

party member

[paper forum]

party

[old cave]

yeah kinddda figured trying to find someone to carry me through it right now lol bc i aint tryna learn that fight

[elder kindle]

do you get ur whole kit back if you die in adventer mode

[stoic ridge]

Im feeling nice so Im going to share a small money saving technique with the goblins that are online. If you need rubys, specifically epic tier, always check and see if diamonds are cheaper before buying rubys. You can turn the diamonds into rubys using the treasurer, usually they are about 100 gold cheaper per.

[floral pendant]

Will they be releasing obsidian crafts this wipe?

[fervent anvil]

I hope so :(

[weak apex]

=where do tornsails spawn now ive checked the origanal three spots like ten times no sails

[fair geode]

Guys is bard the worst class in duo now? If not playing rapier

[fervent anvil]

Bard is useful as a support with the drum songs and flute songs. And you can normally use ehatever weapon you want to and do good

+the clarity song if you have a wizard or cleric as a duo

[rapid vapor]

they'd have to kneecap shriek for it to be the worst class

[steel summit]

small willy ahh game crashed 4 times in a row now losing me 15k gold, cortisol levels are flying

[clear wing]

can u not leak da method u dog

[fading elk]

Otto Plushies IRL when

[fervent anvil]

Hopefully now. Cause i want one

[golden shore]

how to farm herbs?

[lost olive]

where are the fire lizards in goblin caves?

cant find anywhere in the inferno

of caves

[fervent anvil]

Top right module i think

[fervent anvil]

Depends what ones you want. Theres some on every map

[golden shore]

lifeleaf, wardweed and phantom flower

how do i get those, especially lifeleaf and wardweed

[vagrant fulcrum]

Lifeleaf is in Inferno, some modules like Demon Throne, Demon Mouth, Blood Castle and Blood River
Wardweed are in the Goblin Caves. Cave Tunnels has some, there are others but I can't picture them at the moment.
Phantom Flowers are in the Ruins, the Slime Forest has some for sure.

[golden forge]

how much is worth ebot with mid rolls?

[idle quartz]

Hey everyone, can anyone confirm any additional spots for the squid besides these? I'm going crazy looking for the damn Ink Sac, for crying out loud!

NW from Skull Island past the broken ship
South of Bladehand Island where the 3 Urchins spawn
Next to Crab Island where the jellyfish and Urchins spawn

[stoic ridge]

Nah not enough people here to see it. It wont impact it at all

[spark vapor]

wts db

[fallow blaze]

bruh saving 200 gold is too much hassle to go buy diamonds and then trade for rubys

[idle quartz]

In which module do I use the Captians corroded key?

[hoary willow]

guys is my gold coin chest worth DB,pestilence and C bag

i just pulled it from pile holy

[gleaming condor]

is there any fast way to practice PvP outside of just queuing into a dungeon ? Cause it takes me ~5-8 minutes to die that way just to learn 1 tiny thing I should/shouldn't be doing

[kind mango]

I just played like a month without an error, now its presenting error 21. What can i do?

[fervent anvil]

Not really. Watching videos can help and playing arena with a group on the weekends can help aswell. But your best chance is to run squire to riches and learn from your mistakes. Doing things like clipping your deaths and watch them back to see what you could have done better is good.

[grizzled meteor]

arena but no

[gleaming condor]

Doing things like clipping your deaths and watch them back to see what you could have done better is good.

does the death-recap button work ? I saw a streamer click on it and it did for him, but for me it didn't last time I tried for whatever reason

[fervent anvil]

It should? I dont really use it.

If im confused about a death i clip the death itself instead of the death cam

[tacit quartz]

@gleaming moat

[gleaming condor]

also, wondering just how much of a role does gear play, for example is it realistic to expect a naked barb to sometimes win against a barb in blues (assuming no skill diff, and no 3rd-partying)

like, what is the expected % win-rate in that scenario ?

[fervent anvil]

Without skill diff. No. At same skill level. Someone with better gear will win most of the time

[fervent anvil]

No idea about the win rate. That dependa on how good you are

[gleaming condor]

I mean, is it realistic to win 1 in 4 encounters with that setup ? or 1 in 8 ?

[fervent anvil]

No idea. Maybe? It just depends on whoever messes up the most. With the gear giving the enemy an extra chance or 2 if they mess up. It also depends on classes

[kind mango]

How is it possible that from one day to the next the game stopped working and error 21 appears... oh my god

[nova grove]

it also depends on the class like barb squire vs wiz squire barb wins 90% of the time if both are equal skill. Geared wiz vs geared barb wiz wins

or its at least 50/50 geared

[clear atlas]

does gem room work for artis? in gob caves, as it is a key room

[gleaming condor]

But your best chance is to run squire to riches and learn from your mistakes

that's only available for 3v3 ?

[ionic widget]

yes

[fervent anvil]

Yes s2r is trios only. In solos youd have to deal with gear. Games always more fun in a group tho

[sonic maple]

Duos on top

[nocturne urchin]

spectral bags back to 80k guys : ) is there another dupe? : )

[long hornet]

Gear vs no gear is normally 1 hit difference. You dodge they don’t you win. Gear means less now than it ever has

[grizzled citrus]

gem a purple kit and save it for the weekends so you can play arena. lots of pvp and no loss of gear after the match.

[stoic ridge]

This game is actually terrible sometimes

Ice kobolds are genuinely so stupidly tanky sometimes.

[near rose]

Ok so so much in sdfs kitchen anything important so I don't need to read.20 paragraphs

[stoic ridge]

Honestly the biggest takeaway for me was that since they feel better about their current direction, as well as beginner friendlyness, they are going to begin heaviliy marketing the game again next season

Which is gigantic news for us

Besides that, its mostly just SDF goin on about how much his design philosphy has changed, light apologies for the time it took him to get to this point, but all in all, I thnk IM is on a redemption arc, SDF especially

[sturdy coral]

paul redemption arc more like

[stoic ridge]

Paul is an amazing addition

But I dont think its fair to the rest of the team, especially SDF to not give them credit when and where its due

[ancient jacinth]

im at almost 200 hours and just now i start to have the problem of finding the correct class for me to play. I sunk so much time into cleric smite + dp but it seems like it has mainly been like a crutch for early pvp cause now first of all it doesn't work as effective as it did 1-2 weeks ago and when i try any other class its like im starting from when i was 10 hours into the game..

[stoic ridge]

If we as a community want this game to grow with the marketing campaign they are planning for next season, we have to be better as a whoel here.

[vague gate]

I came across someone with a red name tag is that just cosmetic?

[stoic ridge]

It is definitely way more effect early wipe, once people start figuring out you just have to range and wait out a DP smite cleric, its basically over.

[lofty hemlock]

are there any quest lines with skins this season

or emotes

[ancient jacinth]

i open the game and i see my character list and all i see is problems really.. If i pick ranger im going to miss every single arrow in critical situations.. Go on my longsword fighter and im going to get ran over by literally anyone else.. Pick my cleric again and im going to maybe win vs ppl in squire but lose to anyone else even if i bring a full bis kit for normals im going to die to another cleric with squire

[stoic ridge]

So you have 2 choices, learn to play to the strengths of the class, I.E. Long drawn out fights until they make a movement mistake and then you bonk them.

[stoic ridge]

This is not an easy game to get good out without dying a ton. Arena helps for that, but only so much as people play dumber since theres no loot on the line

[ancient jacinth]

yeah i was stupid enough to spend all my gold on a cleric healer arena kit and thats the most boring thing ive ever done in a video game

[stoic ridge]

Add locust swarm and divine strike into it. It makes it a lot more fun

And run Judgement as your other skill. Gives you some good damage options, while still primarily being a support

[ancient jacinth]

its not really for me

i want to play something that i also can use later in solos

[deep ingot]

cleric has way too much some of the best meele skills, best aoe spells and best heals

dumb class

[stoic ridge]

Try tanky fighter. I run fighter with rondel dagger and a buckler. I have 40% MDR in full plate, 45% projectile damage reduction to deal with rangers, and 60% PDR.

[stoic ridge]

Overstatment by a ton

[deep ingot]

im trying plate lock and now i move at 2 mile per hour

even zombies outrun me

[stoic ridge]

Aoe spells are good, not the best. Melee skills suffer from being slow, and a good player will range as much as possible

[stoic ridge]

Yahhhh, thats why I like fighter

I run adrenaline rush and shield bas

With hazeblad/lightbringer and a buckler, with a longbow to boot

[ancient jacinth]

i just tried longsword fighter and im getting my ass handed to me every single match

[stoic ridge]

Try a shield fighter. Longsword is only good if you can riposte

[ancient jacinth]

what perks and skills do you use for that ?

[sinful gull]

can we take the watermap out of s2r allready? i dont even mind it but literally half of the people just insta leave

[stoic ridge]

Weapon mastery, Adrenaline rush, the projectile damage reduction one, but you could switch that out for the armor movespeed penalty one outside of arena, and I think the one that increases armor value

Skills I use Adrenaline surge, and Shield bash

[spring linden]

give armor pen on bows back in dungeons.

[flat granite]

Woah, pretty unorthodox shield fighter build :0
Whats your gameplan while playing it? How successful is it?

[spring linden]

give fighter more pdr and nerf armor pen on bows , top balance

[stoic ridge]

Tbf this is typically a duos and arena build so I dont rely too much on speed. BUt I have a longbow as my secondary which lets me widdle be down a good bit, and having about 40% mdr and 50% projectile damage reduciton is really nice for eating some spells too. Since fireball, ice shard, and magic missles also coutn as projectiles

In solos, Id probably get rid of the projectile damage perk, as I feel I run into much less projectile spammers in solos atm

But its pretty much just an attrition build, wear them down before tehy wear me down, and it takes A LOT, to wear me down lmao

People will typically get over aggressive once they hit me a few times, not realizing just how tanky I am

[flat granite]

Thats fair! 50% projectile reduction is awesome. I might give that a shot. I think id swap adrenaline perk for shield mastery or sword mastery. And then its a toss up between spell reflect and shield bash for me. I like animation cancelling with bash but the MR from spell reflect is so good. And then 2nd wind is tough to pass up in arena since it comes back every round

[severe zealot]

Hi, i've bin wondering if i'm not alone in thinking that there should be arena during the week, even and unranked arena would be better than nothing, i dont get to play too mutch on the weekends and its sutch a fun gamemode

[stoic ridge]

I think the main reason they dont is cost

[severe zealot]

Fair, but waiting for arena to open is costing them players

[stoic ridge]

Eh not really. The players come back every week.

[flat granite]

I kinda like that arena is a weekend event, so to speak. But i can understand the disappointment of not getting to play it if you dont have time on the weekends. Maybe opening it a day sooner would be a good compromise

[hollow stirrup]

is it just me or is rings and necklaces more rare? i swear before i used to get them super easily from like death skulls and stuff but now i havent gotten a single one yet

[severe zealot]

Crafted only

[hollow stirrup]

oh i did not know that

[pallid hemlock]

its an ego thing at this point. they know. they see how high the instant-seppukku rate is. but they put time and effort into that map, theyll be damned if its just druid penguins looting in HR. theyre forcing pvp there, whether it helps kill off the playerbase further or not

[swift ether]

Noo

[agile tide]

Why would they reduce the number of quickshot arrows by bow type but not multishot? Even 3 longbow arrows with multi would still be a wacky headshot, surely 5 are not required

[agile tide]

Technically not true btw, there is a static jewelry spawn in a little wood box in the rusty key room

But as far as I know, that's it. Maybe one of the other key rooms but not that I've seen

[stray seal]

can someone message me and please help me learn how to setup a druid?

[errant pendant]

Any1 help me finish Lich/warlord quest please

[sinful gull]

yeah it would be hard to ignore .. I even like the map, call me crazy.. It is just pointless in any rotation format cause: 1. worst performance, some people leave just cause fps drops. 2. Some spells/skills literally dont work, play melt-bonk Wiz and 3 out of 4 spells dont work in water, hide Rogue doesnt work... 3.Even if a few people like it, they are left without a team in a mode like S2R where you just wanna randomQ and pvp for fun.. Not saying its a good map, I just like to have a bright map and its good for some classes i play...

[hollow stirrup]

mm okay thanks! im assuming quests up the quality of the rings and necklaces

[sinful gull]

and with the rota system that IM has it makes the watermap more likeley to appear than any other map now that its the only 1 without 2nd lvl.. I thought they fixed that a while back but its just so obvious that Water comes the most

[hollow stirrup]

so now quests are very key to progression and im a month behind

[agile tide]

Yup, you need to feed the goldsmith a bunch of legendary gems and quest items to level him up.

[hollow stirrup]

thank you! idk if i can catch up in time but ill try, im getting rolled in high rollers rn by ppl with gold gear and im here in my grey/green haha

[mild rapids]

can someone suggest me a pvp focused warlock build for hr??

[deep ingot]

so how do i deal with a swarm of hell maggots as a solo plate lock

[old cave]

can anyone help me with doing spectral knight quest??

[agile tide]

If you're going to play high roller in squire you could consider ratting around as rogue or something so at least you can disappear when one of those players rolls up. They're just going to squash you otherwise haha. Plenty of gold to be made in norms to start out as well

[agile tide]

Bringing flame walk probably works

[hollow stirrup]

yeahh im just a cleric tho, so most of the time i just accept my death because im so sloww haha

[agile tide]

Ohhh yeah. Cleric isn't escaping nobody lol

[hollow stirrup]

yeahh especially since im platecleric

[agile tide]

You can probably run melee plate cleric in squire in normals and not be bothered much. You can't catch rogues but they probably can't really kill you either

[coarse portal]

Get rid of rhe water map on S2R no one plays that shit map they leave right away

[old cave]

how are people doing the invite to voice in lfg?

[uncut lake]

might be time to uninstall until next wipe

shits just beat atm

[novel hawk]

ps dont drink and dark and darker, youll lose your whole stash LOL

[lyric bough]

playing while tired is almost as bad. lost two kits last night from playing like a dummy

[coarse portal]

yeah no shit everyone does that on that map

just take it out

[opal spear]

Can bladehand drop artifacts?

[pallid hemlock]

yah my biggest problems with water map are render distance (which randomly varies from player to player btw) and the random ass slection of abilites that can or cant be used underwater. im 95% sure the only reason rogue cant hide underwater, is because they can't figure out how to let him move with it. you would either he constantly sinking with crouch or moving even faster with the slow-on-land-quick-in-water button

[agile tide]

What do you mean you don't want to flail around in slow motion while being pelted with arrows and eaten by a shark?

[sinful gull]

lol 100%, with the step counter... but then the real lazyness is to not even have it trigger ambush, since that really cant be that hard to change.. its just halfassed in general I cant defend a single part of it.. i like it cause its bright: game is called Dark and Darker 😄

[fickle rapids]

I'm looking for a site where I can compile a build.

[uncut lake]

people fking coping playing this dead game

[noble verge]

You can leave the discord at any time

Most annoying form of whining

[pallid hemlock]

50 thousand people agree!

[hollow stirrup]

what does "while in a faustian bargained" mean? because i killed 2 players and says 0 damage so im confused

[steady rock]

someone just got landmined

[wary anchor]

UPVOTE THIS https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/699983/7-days-a-week-arena

[errant pendant]

any kind soul helps me kill lich warlord

[tacit tangle]

7 days a week arena? Nobody is going to play the actual game. 😄

[agile tide]

On the one hand, arena is definitely taking people out of dungeon. On the other, that's because arena with the boys is probably the most chill way to play this game and it's fun. Can't really get rid of a mode because people prefer it

[finite kernel]

Please help ! I'm looking for "old nautical chard fragment" someone can tell me where it is on water map ?

[rapid hound]

@zinc sparrow Ember weapons should be a bundle and not like 15$ per weapon

[jade depot]

Directly south of the maelstrom there’s a boat, behind the wheel there is a chance for the fragment to spawn

[stone panther]

also see it at the top right quite a lot. On a chest on those docks just south of the pirate in

[agile tide]

And it can also spawn up on that ship suspended between two rock spires, towards the stern on a box if I remember.

[warm tendon]

Hello, is there a way to make the Golem summon on sorcerer attack quicker? I know you can get more casting speed on warlock to increase the hydra summon attack speed. Would Action speed increase the golems attack speed?

[gleaming condor]

what can you do as a 2-handed sword fighter/barb against long-ranged poles (halbert, etc.) ? Like, I don't see any counter-play given it takes 2 (maybe 3) hits for me to die

[barren elbow]

parry them they attack slow

[jade depot]

That’s good to know! Didn’t realise they spawned there as well

[cunning bear]

Is it meta to always build 1 additional physical damage for melee builds

[lyric bough]

two handed barbs are really bad. if youre playing dual wield or slayer fighter, you generally want to take advantage of your higher move speed. space appropriately and pepper them with arrows before you pop skills and engage. if you can dodge one of their big, slow swings youre in very good shape

[neat urchin]

does water map have herbs?

[dusky stratus]

it has saltvine , GC has wardweed , Ruins has Phantom flower & Ruins 3rd layer inferno has lifeleaf

[neat urchin]

tyvm

[dusky stratus]

No problem i hope it helps!

[tame elbow]

MAX NPC GOLBIN gives you all your stuff back?

[gleaming condor]

wdym 2 handed barbs ? The 2 handed sword specifically ?

from timmy perspective, I feel like the 2 handed sword is:

• too short to fight poles (maybe I need to parry better)
• too clunky, since too easy to hit something on your side
• too slow in face-to-face combat (you just get knifed usually there, before can even swing)

I was getting lots of kills yesterday running bardiche, almost none today with the 2handed-sword. So kinda wondering if it's a skill issue. Maybe it is the issue of white gear (when I don't have enough of action speed to swing meaningfully fast to pose any kind of threat) ...

[flat granite]

Did you get an answer?

If you do enough in a match (kill 7 monsters, open chests, etc), you can respawn as a monster when you die- thats faustian bargain. So the dealmaker wants you to deal damage to other players after you have respawned as a monster.

[rapid vapor]

When you say 2 handed sword do you mean the zweihander?

[gleaming condor]

mostly yeah, longsword would be the other one I tried on fighter with similar success

[rapid vapor]

Seems like damage as a Faustian may be bugged because last night I brought a guy from full to ~20 hp and the game said I only did about 25

[flat granite]

I also think zwei is bad. Longsword is pretty good tho.

[rapid vapor]

Zweis pretty bad without action speed stacking. Longsword is great. If you're struggling against specifically barbs disarm riposte can usually care since the only poke attack barbs have is bardiches 2nd swing

[gleaming condor]

Zweis pretty bad without action speed stacking

yeah, I basically came to this conclusion too,

so if I want to play longsword then fighter is the best choice ?

[gritty sorrel]

You need to be in a faustian bargain

[rapid vapor]

Warlock and sorc have it too so it depends on if you want to cast spells as well. If you just wanna fight people with a 2 handed sword longsword fighter is probably your best bet

[agile tide]

Does it just not stack past current quest maybe? Idk I don't do it all the time

[rapid vapor]

So when you turn it in it'll go past as in you can do 30/25 but it won't fill multiple quests. Thats how I knew it didn't register most of my damage though

[flat granite]

While learning longsword, i highly recommend fighter's barricade perk. Boosts your defenses while blocking which makes missing the parry less punishing.

And personally, i always run combo attack with longsword. Sometimes, like if you get jumped by a rogue, going for the parry is not a great option. Combo attack helps you deal good damage with normal attacks in those scenerios.

[agile tide]

Ahhh ok makes sense. Was guessing it just cut off at quest cap but what you're describing is weirder than that

[tiny forum]

Can someone tell me how I kill myself with flame walker which uses 6 hp to cast when I have 12 hp

[tame oxide]

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