game-discussion

[stark summit]

lmfao yeah. It's slower to move but buying any greens off vendors right now is pretty much profit

[agile timber]

what color you need i'll cut you a deal if i have them

[errant musk]

I ain’t meeting you in game

[errant musk]

Good try tho

[agile timber]

trade tab is thing but okay lmao

[errant musk]

What I meant but yeh

[hasty tiger]

i mean if there is too much magic healing on BIS gear then that is 1 thing I guess, but making healing have no scaling like they did with the druid instead of nerfing the scaling on gear like sane devs is what happened. So i guess perfect gear cleric might be overtuned RN while also being the only viable healing build.

[stark summit]

requiem of fairy or tome of sheol for arena wizzy?

[hasty tiger]

The best change the devs could do is making scaling on healing spells good (75-100%), but limiting healing add on gear more so healers need to use ceremonial staff (slower cast speed) in order to get good numbers

[sour sun]

wizard gutted bro just move to warlock for arena

[fickle marlin]

MAKE IT SO YOU CAN REPORT AFTER AN ARENA MATCH IS OVER PLS TY

[royal prism]

why is there no autobuy last loadout potions, no fucking qol in this game ever

[stark summit]

hey maybe it gets balanced back lol

[sour sun]

sdf, ironmace, and balancing do not mix well lmaoooo

[errant musk]

Ah geez now it’s up too 1000 a stack and it’s selling

Why peepo

[spiral totem]

what are u selling?

[fair lance]

yoo anyone know where i can fing that pincushion

[sour sun]

"ah yes baby nerf the reckless attack on barbarian but chop wizard in half at the waist" meanwhile barb can still just 1-2 tap you with rage and spin to win, if they're running a decent build barb still runs the lobbies, and they nerfed tf outta druid healer but cleric doesnt get touched at all, healing isnt insanely OP if you have a decent team, its just funny atp

[errant musk]

Scrap

[errant musk]

Mfkers be like pls sir can I have sum more

[agile timber]

i like to imagine they have a wheel they spin about what gets nerf and one for buffs

[errant musk]

We back down to the 700s

[spiral totem]

oh yeah, I haven't sold any yet, im stacking it a bit but the price should settig by next week

[stone idol]

i hate parry on rapier now it just dont hit the sword on specter

[errant musk]

It should be 422 a stack of 20 plus a lil mark up but nah

[errant musk]

Damn resellers

[spiral totem]

when I see how much it was to fully unlock one smith I decided not to bother

[errant musk]

How much does it get too? I heard 100k is that for all 4

[spiral totem]

i heard 200K, each.

[errant musk]

Seems easier to buy and raid for gear

[quick ermine]

load up arena and right when we spawn random rogue named thepest starts smoking me and texting in chat call me daddy lmao this game blows

lmao

[spiral totem]

thats hilarious, mans enjoying his Friday night by the sounds of it.

[quick ermine]

exactly how i expect people with no homies to playu this game

[stark summit]

wizard shoes or low boots for wiz?

[knotty bough]

Bro please give one of those cool ass skins to the crystal sword let me use my trash build in style

[fickle marlin]

so if all the top groups were running wiz fighter barb then how is nerfing wiz gonna make the meta any healthier?

[stone idol]

fun of the game ruin other peoples day

[knotty bough]

For real nerf barb

OR buff every other class

[stone idol]

bard never gets buff

we just got nerfed for no reason

[topaz flint]

Redstones on steam down?

[knotty bough]

Buff lock

Make shadow touched viable

[topaz flint]

remove platelock debuff

if anything platelock should have a thorns ability related to hellfire damg

[hasty tiger]

demon mode warlock should drain gold out of your inventory instead of 1% hp

[stone idol]

AINT NO WAY I JUST WATCHED A BARD DOUBLE JUMP

[lost snow]

Why nearfing the mage so hard and buffing fighter more? Dont you realize the problem is : There to many fighter and barbarian and they are to Op right now.... If there would be less fighter and more rogue/ranger it would have less mage. It's not normal that top 100 rank are 30% fighter and 20% barbarian.

[fickle marlin]

Maybe levitate?

[stone idol]

it was a bard solo...

[fluid coral]

Why did they nerf wiz

[topaz flint]

but for real are redstones down for anyone else?

[stone idol]

right so can we just fix rattting please

lock boss room till boss is dead ty

[mystic coral]

Lol really wanted bloodthrist but thats expensive lol

[stone idol]

barb main

[fickle marlin]

Melee players complaining I guess so double frontline can be even more meta

[stone idol]

guys lets buff barb

so then what happens when they get blood thirst they dont die!

sounds great right?

[mystic coral]

Lmao for pve side definitely

[lost snow]

Why nearfing the mage and rogue so hard and keep buffing the fighter more? It's not normal that top 100 rank are 30% fighter and 20% barbarian.

Why nearfing the mage and rogue so hard and keep buffing the fighter more? It's not normal that top 100 rank are 30% fighter and 20% barbarian.
It's funny how a Full Plated guy can run at 295 Speed and a Full cloth guy run at 302 Speed. How realistic. Wondering why the game diying...

[stone idol]

nahh

295 pfft

more like 300+

but thats fine thats normal

thats fair dw ❤️

its to make sure you can get 3 shot ❤️

and so they can space and parry

[hasty tiger]

"we the devs have heard your complaints about plate users this patch and have increased the decibel level of plate footsteps by 80 and increased the speed by 10."

[fickle marlin]

Seems average playerbase doesnt know that lol

[bleak leaf]

@glad thunder just lost legendary magic staff, loose trousers, and leather cap after exiting ruins in HR. Got all loot from bosses in raid and I leave the dungeon half naked????

[azure terrace]

trying to learn one of the last bosses idk yet, anyone have tips for spec knight more so specifically how to tell the difference in the diagonal slashes and horizontal ones

[stone idol]

i can show if u want?

[azure terrace]

ye sure

[stone idol]

its honestly all about staiiring at the boss tbf

[lost snow]

Why nearfing the mage and rogue so hard and keep buffing the fighter more? It's not normal that top 100 rank are 30% fighter and 20% barbarian.
It's funny how a Full Plated guy can run at 300 Speed and a Full cloth guy run at 303 Speed. How realistic. Wondering why the game diying...

[azure terrace]

how did fighter get buff

[stone idol]

idk how u even create a voice

[azure terrace]

they nerfed flag

[azure terrace]

no clue

[hasty tiger]

armor pen got nerfed and fighters always wear plate

[azure terrace]

well fair enough do we not see how broken armor pen was ..

why is that a complaint

[hasty tiger]

Here is a tip BTW for current plate meta: Amulets and Cloaks can each roll up to 6% armor pen so you should always get pen on those 2 items.

[fickle marlin]

Wiz does less dmg, armor pen nerf

[robust cloak]

loving this update but $12 per skin per weapon type is wild 😭

[fickle marlin]

Flag isnt the only good fighter skill it was just the best pre nerf

[robust cloak]

also does the banner from the banner emote stay out until you use it again? i lose my buddy all the time and need to get him a beacon

[tame elbow]

im having a good time with the game, please SDF NEVER COME BACK

[fervent crescent]

pretty nice to see cheat as if its cs 2 great devs

new account from steam but ig its fair

[lost snow]

The move speed penalty of the Heater Shield has been reduced from -20 → -18, and the move speed bonus effect on a successful block has been increased.
The move speed bonus effect on a successful block with a Buckler has been increased.
The move speed bonus effect on a successful block with a Round Shield has been increased.
Longbow, Recurve Bow, and Survival Bow Armor Penetration reduced by 5%.
Rondel Dagger and Stiletto Dagger Armor Penetration reduced from 10% → 8%.
The Armor Penetration of Icefang has been reduced from 10% → 5%.
'Fireball' - Magical damage reduced from 25/10 → 20/10, and Burn duration reduced from 3 → 2 seconds.
'Zap' - Magical damage reduced from 20 → 18.
'Explosion' - Magical damage reduced from 25 → 23.
‘Magic Missile’ - Magical damage reduced from 11 (0.75) → 10 (0.5).
‘Fire Mastery’ - Healing reduction duration reduced from 5 → 4 seconds.
‘Melt’ duration reduced from 4 seconds → 2 seconds.
Thrust' - Armor Penetration reduced from 25% → 20%.

[eternal nymph]

i maxed the weapons workbench and just to let yall know its not worth it

its gambling and you can buy what you want for cheaper

[lost snow]

Nerfing other class make fighter Better. But you know what the game Had 20k player at the begenning now less than 10k player Everything going well bro

[robust cloak]

how tf did you already max it

[eternal nymph]

spent all my money and farmed alot of logs i also randoms crafted 5 different uniques 0 worth i spend 3k a craft for a 1k maybe return

so in short i wouldnt waste your time or money

[jovial night]

workshop sucks, you spend hours doing stuff, unlocking things that will not be rewarded in the end when you can just play a game and get more money and loot in 1 single game lol

[eternal nymph]

if anyone wants to see im in tavern 1 ingame rn tho

[pearl dome]

Games with wipe cycles all have the same player drop off as the wipe goes on

[eternal nymph]

agreed

[lost snow]

were you there previous season? cuz the game had a 4k average player. Now it grant to 20k but dropping 50% in less than 2 months is a problem. Since they add disarm and flag and wirl wind to fighter and barb the game crashed so hard and so quick

the Dev dont realize the problem is on top 100 player 30% are fighter and 20% are barb thisis not NORMAL

[warped idol]

If I die in pve, does the Goblin give me all the equipment I'm wearing?

[static urchin]

any1 know why i get block/ding from LS but no reposte? is it impact power

[azure flame]

the prices for these skins are a bit wild on the weapons lolol

[winter marlin]

Ironhamster pls, the spike trap multiactivation bug is STILL happening

[subtle heart]

Man fuck workshop

[subtle heart]

Ye

[warped idol]

Even the rings?

[little escarp]

The Ranger received a nerf to armor penetration. What did Ranger players do? They added an additional armor penetration bonus to all items.

This is precisely the pathology of additional bonuses on items. We'll never achieve balance in this game since the bonuses are different every update, and all these additional bonuses significantly impact the advantage over other players.

[subtle heart]

Ye

[patent badger]

About the "all friendly encounters are prohibited" rule

what exactly does that refer to?

am I not allowed to beg for mercy in proximity VC and promise to be someone's slave and fight for them if they spare me?

[warped idol]

Ok thanks

[subtle heart]

They should have nerfed bardiche instead but whatever

[little escarp]

even if they did, players would use additional bonuses to change it

[fickle marlin]

Why what's wrong with 2 shotting pdr fighter?

[slow grail]

lololll

[subtle heart]

You can’t “fight for them” but I mean it’s normal to run away and ice ore each other

[slow grail]

Nerfs entire wizard kit but doesnt touch warlock

what a joke

[little escarp]

This is the last class that causes problems in this game, he gets nerfed in almost every update, leave him alone 😄

[subtle heart]

A rogue was asking me to spare him and team up with him to take down a barb but even tho I ignored him I reset because he kept trying to team vs the Barb

[jovial night]

bows nerf are ok, but bardiche needs nerfs too, barb needs a lot of nerfs

[slow grail]

warlocks do 1000dmg 1000 healing every arena round lololol

[little escarp]

Warlock now doesn't heal fully when you damage him continuously

[fluid gyro]

does any one have the same issue playing on steam error code 26=18?

[amber inlet]

is there a way I can get more black roses? I am short 8 for the 3 gold coin bags and won't get enough in time by next week's patch if I just do quests

[fluid gyro]

already enable Tmp 2.0 and secure boot

[slow grail]

when you kill him he doesnt heal lololol the people in this disc are clowns

[strong swan]

does th dwarf js hav a smaller hitbox

[lost snow]

Why nearfing the mage and rogue so hard and keep buffing the fighter more? It's not normal that top 100 rank are 30% fighter and 20% barbarian.
It's funny how a Full Plated guy can run at 300 Speed and a Full cloth guy run at 303 Speed. How realistic. Wondering why the game diying...

[viral oasis]

yea

[hasty tiger]

bro we get it plate is kinda cancer rn, but ur spamming too much

[viral oasis]

barb do be busted tho

[lost snow]

i dont think i spawm enought. they still buff the fighter... so no i dont spawm enought people are to quiet bro

[viral oasis]

dont think peeps play this game for realism

[ionic spade]

what dose kda mean in arena

[agile timber]

no sadly

[fickle marlin]

they taking the quest out?

[balmy galleon]

Squire Mage ⚰️

[amber inlet]

yes next week's patch

[fickle marlin]

What day is that

[half fable]

earl morning wed

[strong swan]

fighter in fullplate is faster than wiz with invis+haste got it

[dusky spruce]

i scrapped two rare pieces of plate armor... it did not count towards upgrading 😐

[dark merlin]

Does skull splitter on barb work on pve?

[dusky spruce]

it sure does

I like it for doing builds with horseman's axe, personally.

[merry quest]

I finished all weaponsmith quests where do I craft ice fang and spectral blade and all that stuff it’s not in service

[fickle marlin]

action soyge

[strong swan]

🥀

[fickle marlin]

adrenaline rush I meant =p

[stoic heath]

Does the new longsword skin effect spectral blade?

[slate swift]

does exploitation strike have magical healing scaling?

[restive breach]

is this real? sure feels like it

[dusky spruce]

uhhhhhh sort of... there's a hard cap on how much it heals I believe, its been a while. But it works up to that point

[twin edge]

yes, this is pure data

[dusky spruce]

wish i could remember the exact number...

[restive breach]

damn i remember people saying its 1/67 or something

[twin edge]

i literally data mined this

if you check my other messages in this channel i written an example how the loot drop is calculated

[merry quest]

Can somebody tell me how to make spectral blade

[tired night]

Can you still pull gold coin chest on gcaves?

[warm kraken]

is there anywhere i can report people for slurring in arena with video proof

[twin edge]

your nickname seems accurate

[errant musk]

If it’s racist or homophobic I commend you for clipping and sending in to the official report site

[warm kraken]

nah same goof that has griefed my last 3 arena matches and then starts screamin slurs after I tell him to lock in

[strong swan]

also no he didnt use anything to buff himself

js fair and balanced game

[twin edge]

shit, people have not played cod back in the days here

[errant musk]

It’s 2026 bruv

[warm kraken]

back in those days there wasnt ranked cod lobbies bud

dont care about the slurs personally but if someone wants to grief me for 3 arena matches in a row i can report them

[errant musk]

Tell them to get shit on or something else. No need for slurs

Angwy white male typing incoming

[twin edge]

sorry, i was attaching my furry tail

[errant musk]

Hey hey now I don’t condone shitting in litter boxes as a human

[lost snow]

Why nearfing the mage and rogue so hard and keep buffing the fighter more? It's not normal that top 100 rank are 30% fighter and 20% barbarian.
It's funny how a Full Plated guy can run at 300 Speed and a Full cloth guy run at 303 Speed. How realistic. Wondering why the game diying...

[untold jetty]

fighter got a nerf too bud

and wizard needed it

[stone panther]

get weaponsmith affinity to 150 and throw in rare longsword, spectral hilt, 3 cobalt ingots and 3 iron ingots

[stoic bramble]

does anyone know how the arena elo works in terms of how much you gain or lose

[thorny bronze]

what is the trident worth

gold wise

[lime kraken]

I think we can all agree, workshop update was a pretty huge L

The gold as a whole to upgrade in of itself will get you better gear through the season, not to mention the cost for upgrading, re-rolling, or crafting the gear...

[summer scroll]

nah

[upper scaffold]

Can you bring artifacts into arena rn?

[fervent anvil]

no

[lime kraken]

Nothing can change that simple fact. Upgrade system is wack, cost is wack, and at the end of the day market will get you much much much more for less.

[summer scroll]

it is over priced to upgrade but i think there just trying to take some gold out of the market after the duping yk

but other than the price its a cool concept

[lime kraken]

Prices already dropped by over half, the gold is out of the market lmao

[lime kraken]

The concept is a W, execution no, that is exactly what I was saying.

[summer scroll]

just because the prices droped doesnt mean the gold that was distrbuted from i tis gone

[summer scroll]

👍

[lime kraken]

It actually does...don't see the connection there

[summer scroll]

because people made so much money from the inflated prices theres now way more gold flow in the market than there should be

but this update gets rid of lots of that gold

[lime kraken]

That doesn't put money into the market though.

[summer scroll]

not that i care about that gold tho

[agile timber]

in theory sure it would work like that but im sure that the majority that did profit arent using the shop, Im almost certain its the people that kind of suck

or too lazy to farm their own wood hence my 50k profit today for vibe farming

[summer scroll]

W

[azure terrace]

what quest do i gotta do for gold cloak

[hollow nimbus]

you just have to get tailor up to max rep I think

[azure terrace]

o ight thanks

[unreal rampart]

Can you get mysterious potion in normals

[upper scaffold]

Can I bring uniques into arena? Or legendary and below?

[stone panther]

purp max

[odd magnet]

would anyone be keen on guiding me on some bosses havent been able to get any done and doing my head in lol

[dusky spruce]

@zinc sparrow No "crafted by" minting when you use the workshop!?

[stark belfry]

the emberflame items should have been bundled

[wintry saddle]

Crazy how they nerf every class but healing stupid devs

[zealous light]

"adjusted the difficulty of fire colossus" can someone tell me what they changed? or how hard the boss is right now? theyve changed two times with no details. High roller still seems impossible (unless its a damage check that im not meeting) because he just keeps screaming until the entire floor is lava and there is nowhere to stand.

[dusky spruce]

500 gold to rebuild a blue is kinda wild... i guess it makes sense for ore crafted items but damn

[deep helm]

where find cuddle fish?

[wild scaffold]

does debuff dur work with dreamwalk cd?

[quaint plover]

Limit potions in Arena to only white potions plz.

[toxic dirge]

Can you cast with ghostblade

[summer scroll]

what are unquie gems even used for

[toxic dirge]

crafting

[summer scroll]

crafting what

[vapid oyster]

yes, I've faced druids in the arena that were basically impossible to kill

[toxic dirge]

gold gear

[hasty tiger]

cleric was indeed not nerfed, but druid healer was nerfed fairly heavily. Natures touch has scaling so bad it now gains the same amount of healing per 10 seconds as the natural healing aura from magic healing add which is insanely pathetic.

[summer scroll]

oooh

ty

[stark summit]

how fkn long does it take for dungeon recoveries

[obtuse agate]

When do I get my ZigZag rolling papers emote so I can UNC it up and smoke some wardweed breh

[stark summit]

do dungeon recoveries even work anymore? I was in pve

[obtuse agate]

^ yes it can take 5-10 after a game rarely, kepe checking

[wet tendon]

WHY EVERYTIME THEY UPDATE GAME THEY FUCKING COOK THE GAME?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

[floral pendant]

pretty fire update

[stark summit]

yeah updates have been great lately

[tulip arch]

If they nerfed ranger it would actually be peak rn

That bow nerf is a killer to bards and fighters who used bows

[candid phoenix]

Is there any benefit to doing the navigator's quests that y'all know of?

[obtuse agate]

You uh... haven't heard of SDF's... KITCHEN ?

[topaz flint]

Anyone else not able to get redshards on steam?

[brittle bridge]

i think it officially gets returned when the game times out

[late thorn]

did sdf turned on secure boot?

oh, somehow the game started. Year ago i got an issue with secure boot and my motherboard died when i did a try to turn secure boot on. sorry for messing

[stone idol]

nah please fix spectral knight

no pattern to fighting that boss full stop

does his massive swing twice in a row for no reason even though i was close distance

[merry iris]

could anyone help me with what the price is of a spellweaver? Dm me

[abstract hazel]

Is the game good yet

[azure bronze]

No

Never will be

[abstract hazel]

[acoustic kiln]

add paladin

[proven mesa]

what are people using ultimate gems for nowadays?

[cunning summit]

Wish they'd just delete wiz so I can stop seeing it get nerfed every single patch

[stone panther]

you need diamonds to workbench ultimate items and 3 of each of the other ones to craft gold plate shit

[proven mesa]

but nothing for goldsmith rerolling wise?

[agile timber]

for real like what with the hate bone for them

[hollow elbow]

so uh, anybody find people who cant be killed in STR?

i Have no damage, but hit a fighter.... 20ish times in the head while he stares at me. doesnt appear lagged out

[brittle bridge]

are you in pve?

[timid shuttle]

Paul pleeeaaasssseeee release the new anti cheat.

[fair echo]

did agi get gutted? havent played since patch 69

[obtuse agate]

lololol do we tell him guys

yeah agi doesn't impact movement and regular interaction speed nearly as well as it used to

[muted summit]

blade hands ballista are dumb. The shadow doesn’t always spawn and it seems worse after the patch

[gleaming owl]

so i read patch notes and checked out workshop. i dont really understand the point of it. if we have market why on gods green earth am i not going to just buy my gear? why even waste the time and space it takes up to scrap gear and craft new? it seems completely pointless to me. thoughts?

[hollow elbow]

lol, I was, trippin the hell out and realised I somehow must have swapped before going in

[robust otter]

nerfing cutlass parry when its harder to use than longsword is fun

[jovial bluff]

How do you buy red stone shards? I don’t get any pop up

[candid phoenix]

you send money to my totally real crypto wallet and the shards pop up on ur account trust me i can also trim ur armor in wildy

[edgy sable]

lol bringing back the armor trimming special!

[candid phoenix]

♥

[stone panther]

basically the only point is to spend insane amounts of gold re-rolling gear until you get bis 3-3 stats (blue for norms, purp for arena). That's about it. No other reason to use it at current cost

[gleaming owl]

glad im not the only person who thinks this is pointless

[edgy sable]

best used on crafted gear so you don't have to spend infinite materials

[candid phoenix]

I like it because it's not uncommon for me to extract with something i sell to armorer for pennies or i roll terribly on goldsmith and know market won't buy it. Also what rusty said, goated for crafted gear

[flat nymph]

From what I gather, luck doesn't work/is bugged so having Wanderer's Luck isn't worth, correct?

[feral dust]

can we take a poll on how many people actually enjoy faustian bargain being in the game? i have a feeling its not very high

[mortal meadow]

yeah they said something about and just joined to ask if it was fixed lol

[flat nymph]

Ah, I didn't realize it was asked, I apologize.

[latent violet]

these ppl are insane if they think im paying 12 dollars per one individual weapon skin

[flat nymph]

Thank you for the response though!

[mortal meadow]

i meant I joined to ask and your message was already there lol, was just saying that sdf said somthing about luck but idk if they did anything

[snow cloud]

is there anyway to tak to a staff member?

[brittle barn]

@crystal matrix

[nocturne urchin]

why are normals so dead i cant find anyone

[dire moon]

awesome with the new patch, theres now a loading bug. says youre in que for 10mins+, but the games already started, you wont know unless you close the game and restart. thanks SDF

they just made it easier this patch no?

[dire moon]

sdf too buys buffing his fighter to out class any other class.

[timber cipher]

No they made the boss knock u back when u parry it making it significantly harder doing it solo now they should’ve just left it how it was. It was already impossible to do it on squire gear

Prob the only boss u can’t really squire gear on it

[upbeat haven]

It was definitely possible in squire both in norms and hr and it still is

[mortal meadow]

fighter is very good but not the best bruh

[timber cipher]

Squire gear on it solo is crazy

Especially in this new patch

[mortal meadow]

gearing on it is crazy

[dire moon]

todays patch says "Adjusted the difficulty of the Fire Colossus."

youre telling me they made it harder and not easier?

[timber cipher]

Yea they made it harder

[upbeat haven]

Real and true

[dire moon]

thanks SDF

[mortal meadow]

when luck fix

[dire moon]

never

[timber cipher]

Even if u have iron will and u parry it u get knocked back

[dire moon]

cant be getting better gear this SDF, its not fair.

[mortal meadow]

bruh

[upbeat haven]

Just play torture mastery halberd lock and run it down

[timber cipher]

Only way is spear fighter or halberd f

[timber cipher]

That’s terrible boss design tho u can only boss it on one class

[mortal meadow]

longsword better than spear rn because they halved the spear block hitbox

[timber cipher]

The fact that I’m basically forced to play a class in order to do a boss is a terrible game design

No other boss makes u do that

[mortal meadow]

i mean it would be cool if it was made for trios and you would get an infinite pile but noo....

[upbeat haven]

Id say this is similar to solo lich purple circle hitting for 99%

[timber cipher]

And the drops are trash from the boss to make it hard bro lmao

[mortal meadow]

boss piles for wyvern and lava golem should be inf change my mind

[timber cipher]

Like why don’t they change up ghost king bro

[mortal meadow]

they did with the scream damage ig

[timber cipher]

And fire colossus has like 13k hp

How much does ghost king even have?

[mortal meadow]

less lol

at least you can headshot ghost king every time

[timber cipher]

What does it drop stinky stick Fulgor what else?

[dire moon]

95% i thought

[upbeat haven]

It boggles the mind that they removed piles from individual bosses on gc and ruins and reduced floor piles to 3 hits

[timber cipher]

Damn bro that’s an insane difference

For the type of artifacts it drops ain’t no one gonna do fire colossus now

Too much work now unless ur doing it duo or trio

[fleet surge]

What does it drop?

[upbeat haven]

Cinder and axes

[timber cipher]

The axes and cinder

[fleet surge]

Ah gotcha

[timber cipher]

But the axes suck bro ain’t no one tryna use felling axe or battle axe

Especially in this parry meta battle axe is so bad

[upbeat haven]

Cinder is definitely one of the best so i cant call it pointless

[timber cipher]

Cinder is the only one worth it

Other than LAD

But ghost king just drops better artifacts and it’s way easier

[feral skiff]

anyone know how many spec bags equals a chest?

[blazing pulsar]

if you heal in arena i report you for cheating

[spring breach]

is the mysterious potion a crafting item or for a quest? and what does it unlock if it is a quest

[stone panther]

get them of dreadspines. need 5 for goldsmith quest

[quasi plover]

double caster comp in duos is so dumb

[indigo valve]

6 I believe

[indigo valve]

W

[feral skiff]

hm okay thanks

[cinder charm]

who crafts cycloyps eye ball

[spring breach]

thx

[upbeat plank]

which boss is dropping cinder currently?

[cinder charm]

fire col

[mighty tulip]

I would also say doing him solo is the easiest

[upbeat plank]

bruh thats fucked

[cinder charm]

he is pretty easy

[civic pewter]

yo i haven't played in a year and cameback, they did a reset? i lost everything i had, my profile still here but reset

[alpine wing]

does cyclops drop troll pelt

[scenic gale]

its normal, thats how seasons work in this genre. Everything resets after a season is finished. Keeps the game loop fresh

[heady stump]

my game keeps crashing and everytime i try to rejoin i get caught in the " the match is currently in progress. please wait while we reconnect" i just saw someone else during a share screen and the same thing happened

is something going on with server?

[scenic gale]

no clue, but i dont think so

[fleet surge]

Someone will be mean and say the answer is in the question so I will tell you no before someon3 else says it lol

[alpine wing]

i thought at some point it did

thought i saw it on a stream

[scenic gale]

i dont even know what benefit there is to killing cyclops

[fleet surge]

Could be a bug or glitch but it shouldn't

[scenic gale]

i guess just to get gold after killing two bosses

[heady stump]

it keeps like bugging out like it flashes after 1 or 2 minutes of waiting

[fleet surge]

True

[mighty tulip]

gold and artifacts in the pile, maybe also jewelry?

[fleet surge]

No jewelry but the gold and possible artifacts is well worth it

[civic pewter]

ohh thank you, anything changed tho? i noticed i can't loot ppl who aren't in my lobby does that mean pvp and looting ur dead allies is over?

[shadow pilot]

Lol

[gentle trail]

whats best way to solo fire colossus

[molten quiver]

@glad thunder let red names report tkers
#RedNameAbuse

[fickle marlin]

red name discrimination :p

[autumn hornet]

#AbuseTheAbusers

[fickle marlin]

sounds like that wouldnt work lol usually the only ranged duo comp u see is ranger sorc or ranger ic wiz, bard can kinda fit in there too but so few good bards plus building it is a pain

[quasi plover]

youve never seen good casters then, try watching fredthefireball and his duo

[fickle marlin]

the strength of sorc is kiting and pushbacks/slows, as well as zoning with ground targeted abilities and golem, this massively compliments ranger which is why that's a far more popular comp where u cant have spells baited

[autumn hornet]

yeh straight up, wizard/sorc or sorc/cleric is super strong in duos, u dont know what ur talkin about if u dont think so

[stone comet]

what class you guys think has the most skill expression?

[molten quiver]

karma system is flawed, when everyone who has a brain cell uses it for name color not anything else, and the only people who actualy use are arena abusers who stand in the way purposely to get tked then cry in chat then report.

[fickle marlin]

most combinations of classes can work and be strong in the right modules I was just listing why that's more common and seen as "reliable"

that's why duos is loved so much

[molten quiver]

@glad thunder let red names report tkers
#RedNameAbuse

[autumn hornet]

"can work" and "very strong" aint the same thing, those two duo comps I just mentioned are very strong

oppressive af, any melee in your duo going against that is practically fodder

[fickle marlin]

pretty much anything can be like a-tier, bar a few exceptions

[autumn hornet]

they S-tier then

[fickle marlin]

I mean if youre playing 50mdr barb with 180hp and 5% more ms than casters than it's not exactly a contest with good movement in the right module, dont take fights in hallways, doorways, or bridges lol

[autumn hornet]

yeah until you cant move thanks to ice mastery / earthquake while getting lightning stormed and sorc comboed

u clearly have never fought against a good duo on this comp and it shows, it is really rough

[fickle marlin]

Sorc hardest memory/apm wise, wiz hardest spells/sec and thinking about what the next spell is as well as a hitscan aim requirement, cleric has harder hitscan but more forgiving overall, bard there's a learning curve to songs but medium skill ceiling for it, and ranger has the hardest projectile aim requirement.

[outer stirrup]

https://medal.tv/games/dark-and-darker/clips/mfQMD8uB1KgdXf3Rr?invite=cr-MSxxaWwsMzAwMjExODUz&v=74

[fickle marlin]

thought this convo was about duos not trios

[autumn hornet]

where tf did you get trio?

[fickle marlin]

you listed 3 spells

[autumn hornet]

the / means or

ice mastery or earthquake

[fickle marlin]

ice mastery doesnt do much in combination with lightning storm lol

if youre inside of lightning storm for longer than 1 tick maybe 2 without EQ on you youre bad

[autumn hornet]

ice mastery does a hell of a lot from an overload wizard with fast cast speed

[fickle marlin]

ice mastery is 0.5s

lol

[autumn hornet]

and they can cast it that fast too, again you have clearly never fought this comp before

[fickle marlin]

ive played in and against it lol stop downplaying other people because they disagree with you, that's just disrespectful

let's be real 80% of people in hr dont run any mdr and often times they dont have a cleric or shields and just hold W in a straight line

[nocturne urchin]

i love watching streamers die to landmine rogues holy shit

[fickle marlin]

utilize any of these things and it's not as clear cut

[nocturne urchin]

the salt is so delicious

[stone comet]

personally I think ive won 1 of 5 fights i've had against sorc ranger in duos as barb/fighte, sorc

[fickle marlin]

yea sorc ranger is really good even if susceptible to 3rd parties but barb/fighter isnt what youd wanna run into it lol

[autumn hornet]

your downplaying how good it is to try to keep your point, but in reality it is oppressive af no matter how much you wanna say its not... and I have specified a good duo for the exact reason that it is hard to pull off, but when it is pulled off, there is so little that can be done against it

[molten quiver]

@glad thunder let red names report tkers
#StopRedNameAbuse

[fickle marlin]

The reality is if you want ranged classes to be remotely playable number-wiise for the average masses then they will be S tier for anyone who can aim, space, hold chokes, etc. and comm on discord. The downside is if they turn a corner too hastily, get impatient, lose focus, or dont pay attention to xyz they will get 2 tapped with no counterplay half the time. Happens all the time to streamers and plenty of the players they kill with 100k+ kits on making mistake after mistake. Even the best players make mistakes. So there's nuance to this, is all im saying.

[autumn hornet]

that literally proves the only point I was trying to make this entire time

[twin edge]

I do not think top aimer who just started playing as Ranger would beat average aim john who played 1000 hours on ranger

[autumn hornet]

but ya know what happens before those streamers die because they made a mistake, they wipe like 3 whole lobbies beforehand and make more than enough to buy the kit again lmao

[twin edge]

so this could be true but not for this game

[autumn hornet]

and this isnt true across the board, if melee combat is made to be just as skillful (which I dont think its far from, melee has a lot of out play potential this season) then this isnt the case at all

[scenic gale]

do you guys generally play just one class or you switch around?

[autumn hornet]

I play every class

[scenic gale]

i only play fighter, idk why but its always been like that with me. I pick one thing and stick to it

[stone comet]

what's your ap farming method

[autumn hornet]

I dont

dont give af about the cosmetics from it, I just play for fun

[scenic gale]

i never had demigod before, would always quit before hitting it. so this season i made it a goal. it was pretty ez to hit tbh

[autumn hornet]

the easiest way is probably just to play rat style and run from most PvP fights

good for makin money too as long as your also doing a lot of looting, but I find that really boring personally

[hot vault]

Easiest way to get Demi god is play warlock and go ice caves and just flame walk everything

In my opinion anyways

[autumn hornet]

that too, not much PvP in ice caves usually

I would say maelstrom also but its been a bit wild since the new quests

[stone comet]

ive been using cleric ice caves

[autumn hornet]

lots of druids that will wipe their ass with you with water combat

I would know, I was one of em

[hollow stirrup]

how do i know what i need and dont? like all these bronze scales and stuff? idk if im supposed to sell em or keep em for crafting

[stone panther]

currently, the scales have no use outside of that first quest, same with the mortars
later, who knows

[hollow stirrup]

what quest needs em?

[stone panther]

goldsmith - stocking up; x1

[hollow stirrup]

oh im nowhere near that

[slow salmon]

LOL SDF NERFED ROGUE AGAIN

Bundang district of Seongnam-si, Gyeonggi-do. Their primary office is located at 8th Floor, 225-18, Pangyoyeok-ro, a major hub for technology and gaming companies in the Seoul metropolitan area

Go say hi

[nocturne urchin]

Did this guy just post the ironmace headquarters and incite violence against them?

[slow salmon]

Saying Hi is violence? My life makes so much more sense now.

[silver smelt]

[rapid hornet]

maybe he got you banned so you couldn't compete for the rankings

[floral hedge]

are the servers just like getting nuked

dc after dc

[quasi plover]

god bro bardiche barbarian is unbelievably broken

[rapid hornet]

maybe the money we spend in the game can't keep the servers running

[dense berry]

Game dead yet? God I hope so.

[stone panther]

you'd think that applying some textures to a single sword and selling it for 12 bucks would

[dense berry]

Nothing would make me happier than to see this toy taken away from all the people who only derive pleasure from griefing

[placid jungle]

are the servers lagging

[nocturne urchin]

soon lol

[dense berry]

I can't wait to see it happen. Every piece of gear ever lost must be avenged and taking this fun thing away from the people who took that gear from me is the only thing that will suffice.

[mint kernel]

they are for me but im from oceania

[placid jungle]

think they fixed

[tiny steppe]

Hello all, one question, what stats should i put on my gear for a barbarian build that will proc more bleed ?

[hollow stirrup]

how do you open the rusty iron door? and is it worth using this golden key i found on pve?

[nocturne urchin]

just go full vig and dex bro

all u gotta do

[tiny steppe]

For up te damage on bleed just dex and vigor ? i think is no correct. maybe magic damage ?

[reef turtle]

anyone know if eldritch shield is applied blocking 25 md with your mdr or is it 25 damage as if you have no magice damage resis

[frigid vortex]

nah idk what kinda drugs SDF has been taking but nerfing wizard to the ground ground and not touching ranger is wild

[cunning summit]

Well SDF has always been a fkn meathead what do you expect? Anyone have a consecutive wizard Nerf counter ?

[dusky spruce]

Wizards always been pretty strong on the high end though... and its gotten easier to get to the high end. So it sorta makes sense...

Late in the season they also get all the extra magic too cause of religion :/

[frigid vortex]

if you play against people that know what there doing wizard has 100 plus counters

[calm folio]

Same can be said of any class

[frigid vortex]

ya but wizard has the most

[dusky spruce]

I mean, I had my wizard season before. I know what they can do too. Just not really shocked is all.

[frigid vortex]

all im saying is why we nerfing it to the ground when Rogue Silences Barb Achilles panther silence rangers 2 tap us with 40 pdr Warlocks antimagic Clerics have 50 plus mdr EASILY Barbs iron will and Rogues Hide etc Bard Silences too every class has a counter and before the update i had to hit like 4 explos direct hit fireball and zap and half set of mms to kill a FIGHTER now i have to hit 4 directs 2 magic missles to the face and explosion and fighters wont die all im saying is make it make sense

should've just nerfed fireball thats it people are just mad cuz we teared through plate fighters so we were "broken" even tho it was in a good spot

[analog summit]

bro did magic missile really need 0.25 reduction in attribute ratio bonus? like its 10 (11) dmg…. It is literally the only spell that Should have 100% attribute bonus ratio. especially considering the 2 perks that give arcane dmg bonus only like what..

[west wadi]

u realize u want to give 100% to all

11 missiles

[vestal silo]

why is uncommon arcane essence suddenly so highly priced?

[calm folio]

Uncommon jewelry no longer needs the extra ingredients (grave essence, copper ore, etc.) so now it only needs arcane essence to craft.

[main lintel]

way to nerf wizard into the ground and make them use melee on mobs now....

[vestal silo]

oh didnt notice. Was it changed in the latest patch?

[analog summit]

10 missiles . and yes 100% attribute bonus ratio to all missiles (thats how it works) cuz that means your average wizard with 30% magic power bonus or even 50% magic power bonus is adding like maybe 5 dmg to each missile… O0O0 big deal bro so giga busted

[analog summit]

lol

[calm folio]

Yep, this last patch yesterday

[west wadi]

try again

magic staff?
did u forget to add that?

cause thats the real problem

[main lintel]

wizards arent using staves for casting

[west wadi]

cause theres not enough reason too
if every magic missle is +8 * mdb with all add mag and mag pen

[main lintel]

the 25% nerf is huge

[west wadi]

ud be throwinng if ur using anythingn else

[main lintel]

why would it be +8??? staves are 10

[west wadi]

OH MY BAD
i was thinking epics to be reasonable
but yes +10

[main lintel]

but. even then.... crystal ball are 9 and infinitely better......

[west wadi]

less magic pen

[main lintel]

magic pen difference of 5% isnt worth

[analog summit]

yes there is: its 10 dmg .. puny and youre standing still. and youre missing many missiles. and many hit their arm. and they kill you in 3 hits maybe less. so stop whining

[west wadi]

but the point stands
100% would be horrible

[main lintel]

it doesnt even equate to the difference in 1 magic damage that the staff gives

[main lintel]

.75 was fine

[west wadi]

mm scales with headshot dmg and channel time of spellcast speed

[analog summit]

yea bro brought up magic staff for some reason

[west wadi]

so ur just actually bad at this game if u think 100% is fine

[analog summit]

duh 🥹

[main lintel]

the point stands... .5 is not enough to even clear mobs...

[analog summit]

cutlass already proves he is bad at wizard and is maulding

[main lintel]

with 45% magic power and fully bis blue sets.... you wont clear a mob with 1 missile barrage against red

[west wadi]

i dont main the class
but ur brain is lackinng oxygen if u believe ur right

lmfao

[cunning summit]

They've got consecutively nerfed about 37 times in a row even when they were u playable.

[analog summit]

they should make bardiche and halberd have even more reach and 200% headshot dmg

gg mafrocka

ur an 1diot

[west wadi]

I main spell reflect fighter and melee sorc
its not like I play meta

ur just mad ur spell isnt broken

[analog summit]

clearly i must be meta i mean my name is….

lol

im not even upset in the slightest

[quick rain]

Every bard i fight is goated, every bard i team up with has downs

can anyone else relate?

[main lintel]

maybe its you that is the common denominator

[radiant mortar]

Where can i get special keys other than killing bosses?

[flint locust]

anyone else getting server lag?

[eternal whale]

yea massively

[mint kernel]

what the fk is going on

unplayable

[quick rain]

nah

[wise quarry]

i get kicked back the character select everytime i try and load into a game

[vital hatch]

Who thought nerfing wiz was a good idea?

[main lintel]

yeah now you still get 2 tapped by any range character, but cant return damage...

who thought a nearly hitscan arrow should do 100 damage... but a LIMITED spell of 4 should only do 30......

[vital hatch]

Yu, you said it, almost like they forgot spells are a limited resource for wiz

[main lintel]

4 fireballs that DONT EVEN DO AS MUCH AS 2 ARROWS......

[vital hatch]

Highest risk no reward ahh class (Unless you are in like godlike gear, still not matching other classes)

[vital hatch]

Yeah its pretty much impossible to kill some classes or really anyone running magic resist

[main lintel]

HAVE YOU fought barbs now hahaha they just laugh

[rapid vapor]

Just stack projectile resistance

[vital hatch]

Right, so I can toss all spells at a mf just to not kill them and then get hit by the fourth arrow and die🥀

[main lintel]

yeah crazy change... who thought wizard was a problem... its the least played class (next to druid) this season

[feral crescent]

High tier chests is your best bet, take a lock pick and go for the gold ines

[vital hatch]

Oh but druid is acually good

[rapid vapor]

not anymore

[sage reef]

anyone else dc

[dense pawn]

I hope they reduce the gold cost of rerolling in workshop. 500g for a blue item is insane

[pearl bane]

yea its bit rough atm

[sage reef]

wonder if ddos

[vital hatch]

No it is acually good no joke (just not insanly broken anymore), watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t71QetojI08

[analog summit]

bards are a strange species

[dense pawn]

Not in arena. Most common classes were wizard and ranger

[rapid vapor]

Doesn't he get folded by a mid geared barb?

[runic briar]

holy common meat n potato L take

[vital hatch]

Yeah cuz he got outplayed, and the barb had around the same gear level, that is a fight he should have lost

[clear pendant]

wizard was a problem, but not for his damaging spells

fire mastery and melt were op, and imo its nerfed in the bad way

[rapid vapor]

Also I'll say iirc most of the people he killed didn't try to block or run from bear. Which is what basically hard counters bear. Shift druid is a noob stomper and they just nerfed heal druid because reasons so right now it's just not good

[rapid vapor]

Hot take the nerfs for fireball and explosion should've been reversed.

[vital hatch]

Oh you mean besides that fighter he aboslutely stomped on, you can still hit ppl when they block, like he did

[vital hatch]

And furthermore druid should never be that good in melee, because it has so much more like spells, utillity, healing and crazy mobillity.

[stoic ridge]

Dont I guarantee get my stuff back if I die in pve?

[rapid vapor]

Look there's no point in talking about it because I'll just point out he didn't adjust his block and you're not going to change your opinion for whatever reason and I'm not going to change my opinion because I trust my judgement on his changes more than most people because I have more hours on druid than most people have on their entire account

[pearl bane]

sometimes it takes a few minutes, could also be bugging cuz of server issues (atleast for me)

[stoic ridge]

Ill be pissed, got stuck on some spider mummies while running some quests, and will have lost my arena kit

[pearl bane]

fingers crossed for u bro

[stoic ridge]

Goblin affinity doesnt matter for pve right?

[pearl bane]

not that i'm aware of? i've gotten my epic and legendary gear back with only a few quests done for gobbo

[stoic ridge]

Tbf I have 0 quests done for him atm, so if that changed imma gonna be pissed lmao. Its like a 40k arena kit

[vital hatch]

Look dude I get it, your main got nerfed its not insanly broken anymore and now you are salty about it. But it really isn't as bad as you think. Bear druid should not be able to win a all in against a barb. Because a barb is a melee specalist. druid is not. It has so many other tools, if you use those you can win

[pearl bane]

yikes, yea i'm not 100% sorry, good luck tho

[stone comet]

can a casual compete by picking a class thats easy to play?

[stoic ridge]

Yah I just reread thru the patchnotes Im supposed to get it all back so long as I dont fall in the void

And I just did, lol just took like 30 mins

Phew

[pearl bane]

oh ok cool

[sonic maple]

Yuh

[stone comet]

what you recommend I've been running solos and biggest opps are barbs and fighters running heater/mace or halberd

[sonic maple]

Ya those are simple

[hardy stump]

yes, I've had friends run their very first game with me and score kills, but you'll still need to learn a lot of things and if you play solo, you'll likely stop feeling like a noob after no less than 10 hours, if you want to learn to fight from yt, not gonna happen, there is exclusively singular streamer who actually puts down reasoning and explanation for his combat decisions and that's Your Boy Blinn but its fighter content mainly, which also happen to be good beginners class

[nocturne urchin]

his name is SDF

SDF is evil and wants to ruin the game. Then we have Paul he is the Good counterpart of SDF and he is trying to fight the evil by making the game better

but SDF is very powerful

so its hard

[stone comet]

think fighter is worth picking up? I was going bard but died to fighters three games in a row

[pearl bane]

fighter is arguably the easiest to learn

[hardy stump]

4 W patches in a row with a fumble of wiz balance and workbench let down, we're on a good track this season, but its still quite a leap from when I'll feel safe to recommend the game to friends again

[pearl bane]

i'd recoomend it

[hardy stump]

bard is strong, but its very technical class, if you're not using your songs in combat properly, you're just inferior ranger

[stone comet]

the pve on bard felt nice, I farmed to pathfinder on cleric for the cosmetics. Now Im just trying to find a class I actually enjoy pve and can pvp with

[hardy stump]

Because IM does not understand casters, imagine if they started randomly nerfing all physical weapons, because they do too much dmg to people who have 10% pdr

[fallow blaze]

building mr in this game is specifically for other casters as it is dependant on will, and not enough balanced armors

[main lintel]

yeah this whole wizard nerf was the craziest thing to see... i mean who in their right mind thought that wizard was a problem???

[sonic maple]

Make them harder

[fallow blaze]

and wizards have been dominating arena with their brothers rangers for the past year

[nocturne urchin]

wizard is the most brain ded class in the game even a 4 yr old can dominate with it

[sonic maple]

You'll what it

[clear pendant]

ironmace hears pro community so they know what to nerf but they still cant nerf it properly
reckless attack is still unfair
wizards damage was never the problem, especially in high end gameplay
rangers nerf is a joke

but im still amazed how they reacted to what is op so good

[sonic maple]

My cocatrice is huge

[hardy stump]

Purple neck will give you 20% alone

MDR scales much stronger than PDR and is much easier to build

[fallow blaze]

oh yeah let me run a purple neck specifically for wizards, and lets hope i encounter the class that will blast me with 10 spells before going to his face just to bonk me

[hardy stump]

you can't have your cake and eat it too, either build MDR to be able to fight casters or fuck off to another floor if you see one and don't cry over 40 will unique book with +3magic dmg bonus explosion

[fallow blaze]

or maybe dont overtune wizards dmg to godless levels where they dominate everyone including barbs their 'couters'

[hardy stump]

25 magical dmg is overtuned to you, but 150 melee hits are fine and balanced?

[fallow blaze]

or youve never met actually decent wizard

[hardy stump]

guys, I think Bardishe is overtuined, can we roll it back to 23 dmg?

[fallow blaze]

bardishe is overtuned facts

idk last season i was top 1% arena player

still wizards dominated every game

[clear pendant]

lets not build magic resist since there arent warlocks, sorcs, clerics, crystal sword enjoyers playing the game

and blame wizards for dealing too much dmg

[fallow blaze]

as if wizards don't spam magic penetration + free religion

[sonic maple]

Their what

[clear pendant]

they dont

[hardy stump]

they actually don't, I have never seen a wizard building magic pen ever

[solar sage]

the mob density on ruins makes it literally impossible to solo in.

[hardy stump]

they don't even have a perk for it either

[clear pendant]

but yes, religion is unfair

[fallow blaze]

true they get it from religion

and with the shit scaling for mr, perfect

[clear pendant]

its still low level tho, donate please so shefasf rerolls wizard too

shit scaling for mr? you do even know the curve bro

[hardy stump]

I've already explained to you how easy it is to build MDR, get 2 hybrid pieces and you're sitting at 30% already

[dense grove]

i was playing arena and chilling my teammate fightter killed me and my other teammate in spawn how can i get this man banned

like instanttly game started he killed us both

[gilded stirrup]

Anyone know what artifacts each boss drops this season?

[pseudo flicker]

fuck these stupid quests 10 boars to kill and only 2 on the map... mobs or other players kill them you have to do like goblin caves at least 10 times to do this LOL

[stone panther]

that quest was so horrible,..
also, multiple times the boar in the center died to either ifris or one of those fireball things, because with everyone going for it there is no time to clear. Then it doesnt count..

[dense moon]

There you go 🙂

[dense moon]

Yeah the new quests from the miner are like the navigator ones from last season, centered around the new area. I’m not sure if they are worth doing other than for the sake of completing them, as I’m pretty sure it doesn’t unlock anything.

[stone panther]

nah, no unlocks, just xp and some armor and stuff as rewards

[dense grove]

hey mate can i report teamkiller player in discord?

[dense moon]

Not in the Discord, instead use the official Dark and Darker website. If you have the game launched, press esc > support > report a player

It will let you report them directly to the proper channels

[hardy stump]

be happy we can actually buy quest items now instead of relying on 0, 00001% drop chance of a single mob in the whole dungeon with 33% spawn chance because it shares spawn with 2 useless goobers

questing in previous seasons felt like playing korean f2p mmo

[stone panther]

pepperide farm remembers the ceremonial dagger and goblet during the first 2 weeks..

[dense moon]

The only way we can deal with it is if the player is from an LFG or if the team killing happened in this Discord.

[silver smelt]

❤️

[dense moon]

Regarding new unlocks, I’m kinda disappointed that there are no obsidian weapons. Especially since the weaponsmith has a quest where he says he would be able to make one if you bring him some obsidian ore.

[digital isle]

when is next wipe?

[fallow blaze]

maybe we will get them mid wipe as last time

[drifting hearth]

is this game still popular

[analog summit]

dude the fact m star slows you so much is wild

like we are both going the same physcial direction

so how come

when it hits me (also going the same direction)

instead of pushing me forward as that would obviously imply instead it

makes you magically start moving the other way

towards the m star

also its so hard to block

just always reaches right over your block

sometimes im like why tf am i playing this game when sht like that always hapens

[snow quiver]

did they change fulgor recently, it dropped from gk during ssf

[dense moon]

I do believe there was a change, as I saw it was dropped from gk during ssf. Perhaps it is still possible, the image I sent is just what I considered to be the right information.

[small wren]

any1 experiencing latency issues only on HR?

[hot vault]

We are mid wipe no?

It’s been over a month since wipe I’m pretty sure this is mid wipe

[fallow blaze]

idk i guess we have 2-3 more moths

[main lintel]

55% magic power. unique crystal ball.... doesnt kill black skele swordsman in 1 barrage

[clear pendant]

rip

[fallow blaze]

all mobs have high mdr, they are weak to physcial

[main lintel]

wrong

most mobs have a weakness

[fallow blaze]

maybe you are right the bosses were mostly all weak to magic

[main lintel]

wrong again. bosses are the most resistant to magic out of all mobs 🙂

[prisma horizon]

its mostly element dependent like skele are weak to fire spells

[fallow blaze]

thats what I said

[main lintel]

no... they have magic resist... that is the opposite of what you said

[fallow blaze]

i meant that the spells are weak to bosses

i am just slow while looting

[main lintel]

but yes. they have gutted wizard ability to clear in hr now..... sad sad sad

[zenith summit]

is 150 max affinity for weaponsmith? i finished every last quest and can only craft a coupe weaposn

rubysilver halberd and the golden book

[stone panther]

wait 5 minutes if you just finished it, stuff refreshes twice an hour

[zenith summit]

oh ok

thanks

[mild rapids]

how do you make money??

[reef onyx]

Any obsidian gear yet?

[vagrant fulcrum]

Selling trinkets to the collector is the simplest way.
If you have a Legendary status you can also sell items on the market to other players. Quest items, crafting items and good gear sells well.

[languid needle]

Guys, is it normal that ever since I've put on (my luck+ gear that has 300 passive luck and 450 with great potion) the cracked logs stopped dropping for me and never once gotten the sturdy log, all I've gotten are billet and binar

[molten quiver]

helps if you arnt in pve

[young matrix]

Do tell, what is the stinky stick

[dusky spruce]

Workshops are gonna feel pretty good when SSF is back in next season I think. Kinda wish we could target what we're trying to make, though.

[twin edge]

No, its not normal. Luck is barely affecting grade of your loot as of now. The effect of luck is negilable.

[sturdy coral]

yes it does the same thing for herbs

[ripe tinsel]

PLEASE can we complain enough to make throwing knives and fraxes recoverable, same as arrows? In fact, they should have close to 100% recovery chance. Will make pve more interesting, especially for rogues, and will also make you not having to carry half inventory of throwables

[solar sage]

Are the market prices still fucked?

[dusky spruce]

Depends what you're trying to get. Prices are still inflated but some things are coming down now. at the same time, some prices are going up because everything can be broken down into scraps now.

[solar sage]

Im talking about bad purps being more expensive on the market than at the merchants.

[dusky spruce]

So, scraps then. Yea, those are expensive. It's the new thing so basically every piece of equipment will be sorta inflated for a bit until demand goes down.

[sterile mountain]

oh yeah, what classes are good at using the cutlass nowadays? Or is it currently not worth considering about

[fallow blaze]

what is a fire spirit?

[swift grove]

fire elemental top left in firedeep. theres only one

[sudden pasture]

can you

please

fix your game so people cant fucking play it? been 8 days now and still cant play the fucking game.. FIX YOUR SERVERS

[fallow blaze]

only 1 in the whole map?

[swift grove]

yes

[dusky spruce]

its a 3x3 map... not exactly a huge map to begin with.

[fallow blaze]

so why are the quests so dumb

the middle module has 2 more

btw

[pallid hemlock]

wym? the quests fit perfectly with the rest of the game

[azure vapor]

why does my chat say "cannot send message. party chat is currently disabled.", am i banned from the chat for some reason?

[fallow blaze]

there is a button party chat On/Off

bottom left of the chat

[azure vapor]

thanks

[sudden pasture]

"failed to connect to servers. Quit the game". For 8 days now. 8 fucking days.. Please fix your shit!

[unique creek]

anyone els have problem with lagg ?

wish they added a lowsetting mode

[swift grove]

ohhh my bad. theres confusing names on a few enemies... I thought you meant the fire elemental. I forgot fire spirit and lava spirit are the little floating orbs that shoot fire. those are in mid, top left, mid left, and I think one top right but unsure

[solemn pasture]

How to get golden coin chests

Help

[next epoch]

if i had to guess you were cutting in normals or high roller before putting on the luck gear in pve. you're better off without pve

[swift grove]

in order of most reliable way to least reliable way: marketplace - huntress quest - treasurer quest (not available yet) - treasure pile - hunting players at treasure piles

[solemn pasture]

Only hr? Or

[young matrix]

Huntress rewards one this season if you get 30 huntress gold coins

[pallid hemlock]

yo @glad thunder this dude wants to buy the new skins but he is unable to purchase the new skins with $USD because of a technical issue, do you think yall can get on this and help our boy out? hes really itching to spend $USD on the fabulous new skins youve offered

[swift grove]

HR has a higher chance for chests than PVE mode, but the chance is very, very low everywhere

[solemn pasture]

Aight thanks

[sudden pasture]

bro is stoooopid?

[pallid hemlock]

if he think youre trying to buy skins he'll probably hop on the issue sooner 😉

[sudden pasture]

but he can read this as well no? xD

2k hours

better find a new game then

[pallid hemlock]

i think he can read english. who knows tho

[sudden pasture]

appreciate the effort ❤️

[stone idol]

instead of wanderers luck can we get a perk to play songs faster

[pallid hemlock]

i think its hilarious that there are multiple daily complaints stemming from the regular optimization nuke IM does to their game, and the best response people will get is "doesnt happen on my machine" and then talk about L Community when people shit on the game 💀

"why are you playing it then if you don't like it" maybe they want to but literally cant? top tier buffoon festival

[weary magnet]

What classes are arguably the most fun in arena? I’m currently running fighter and warlock but getting kinda bored

[stone idol]

eh kinda playing the most op classes

[weary magnet]

Yeah they feel really strong but it’s been getting repetitive

[stone idol]

thats the problem when stuff isnt balanced...

[next epoch]

try them all out, a lot of the gear is interchangeable

[solar sage]

is there a good module to find dwarf maulers at?

[full wagon]

I had this problem all previous week. I solved or more like worked around it. Using a VPN to open the game (I used psiphon3) to launch the game until character selection and turned the VPN off and just play.

[steel bridge]

So their idea of Rogue rework was to nerf the only viable thing we had going for us which was Armor Pen?

[sudden pasture]

dont know how vpns work.. and they're not free right?

[next epoch]

theres only like 2 or 3 modules with dwaves so best answer is to just hit those up since theres so few spawns in such a small map to begin with

[silent spruce]

the issue with rogue is how unkillable they are

[full wagon]

Psiphon is free

[subtle heart]

Is cyclops easier than cave troll?

[silent spruce]

if you make them too competent at killing it just feels really bad to fight

in some modules its litteraly impossible to chase down a rogue

[steel bridge]

They're Rogues. What do you want from them? Think about what is th identity of a rogue

[full wagon]

@sudden pasture don't even need to install it

[silent spruce]

if you make them able to just walk in on ppl and outdps melee classes it becomes really really awful to fight against

[steel bridge]

If we mess up the opener, or get caught out. Were dead

[silent spruce]

you have the best mobility in the game

you can get away pretty easily

[steel bridge]

Of course

Were rogues

[silent spruce]

wich is the issue

[solar sage]

A vast majority of the dwarves that spawn are guaranteed gunners-

[steel bridge]

Thats what we're supposed to be good at

Attack speed and move speed

If we can't out dps or run, we die

[silent spruce]

you're good at running away and avoiding fights thats why the class struggles in actual combat

[steel bridge]

The fuck are you talking about

Yea, make them do no dps and not be able to run. Cool, dead class, has no identity

[silent spruce]

they can run ?

[full wagon]

Sooooo how does the workshop well works? Can I upgrade my green gloves with +3 strength into blues with +3?

[silent spruce]

you litteraly have shit like double jump and smokebomb

[steel bridge]

Ok, so what good is running if I can't fight?

[silent spruce]

if you upgrade an item you lose every roll

[silent spruce]

the good is that you dont die

[steel bridge]

Solo only, loot goblin?

Can't play with anyone because we arent viable in a fight?

[full wagon]

What?! Then why upgrade at all? 😱

[silent spruce]

workshop is completely useless

its a huge money sink that has 0 benefits

[steel bridge]

Go play any other game with a Rogue and tell me how they operate

Ive been playing Rogues for over 20 years

[full wagon]

Damn I wasted 15k and hours of live into nothing

[silent spruce]

the issue is that if you make rogue good at fighting is that they just chip you for 80 years since you can never get close to them

[steel bridge]

But you can

The move speed is not that great

You have a bunch of ranged classes

[silent spruce]

old druid is a great exemple of what would happen if you gave rogue good combat capability

they have unlimited resets and if you fuck up once against them you just die

[steel bridge]

No shit

[silent spruce]

you have hide and double jump

[steel bridge]

Thats the point

[silent spruce]

as well as smokebomb

in some modules its litteraly impossible to chase down a rogue

[steel bridge]

Holy shit

1 thats just not true

2 everything youre saying is a problem is what we're supposed to be able to do

[silent spruce]

there are litteraly some places its impossible to chase them down without double jump lol

wheel is one i can think of

[stone idol]

question does anyone know

if undead damage works on spectral knight?>

[silent spruce]

you're able to do at the trade off of ur class being bad at combat

thats ur tradeoff

[steel bridge]

Bad at combat

[silent spruce]

yea

[steel bridge]

Cool

Thanks for proving my point

[silent spruce]

what even is ur point

rogue is meant to be bad at combat

[steel bridge]

Its a PvP game

[stone idol]

not bad

class cannon

[steel bridge]

Nobody should be bad at combat

Thats what balancing is for

[silent spruce]

if you're playing the game purely for pvp then you're not plfying how the game was designed

[fallow blaze]

has someone experienced a bugged quest, I did all the requirments but it says 0/3 for slaying a giant worm and i don't even see the quest in game

[silent spruce]

this is an extraction dungeon crawler

not a pvp ffa

[pallid hemlock]

its partly a pvp game, partly a boof dungeon crawler. theres a reason arena closes for half the week

[steel bridge]

Ok, but everyone Ws at the first sign of people

[silent spruce]

compared to other classes it is pretty mediohre

but thats fine

as long as shit like hide or double jump exist rogue does not need to be good at combat

[steel bridge]

You're ridiculous

[pallid hemlock]

finesse-based invisibility is my favorite type of invisibility

[silent spruce]

oh no my class cant outdps barbarians as well as having the best get out of jail cards in the game

literally the only thing you need to have insane survability is double jump lol

a singular perk

you dont even have to run hide or smoke

[pallid hemlock]

that was true until the double-nerf. a lot harder now

[silent spruce]

double jump is still overpowered as hell

you pick the modules you stay in you're litteraly unkillable

unless its another rogue

maybe a druid but not sure

not to mention double jump also cheese the fuck out of some pve content

buffing rogue in combat just makes it miserable for others to play against

[light helm]

does purge shot or any other abilites that take away buffs take away demon form from warlock_

[silent spruce]

unless you're actively taking their escape options if they choose the options that make them better at combat

[gilded stirrup]

Anyone know if there’s any uses for stingray egg this wipe?

[pallid hemlock]

ye a lot of that comes down to fundamentally boof design. you should be able to climb any ledge you can reach with your hands, double jump should only allow rouge to traverse quicker, not unlock entirely new areas. i agree with you but their balancing methods are genuinely tragic

[silent spruce]

you'd have to completely rework the map for that change to work

[light helm]

who da fuk complains about rogue when demon warlock is a thing :DDD

[silent spruce]

also how would you deal with bodyblocking

cuz the rogue can still bodyblock you

even with that change

especially with hide

[pallid hemlock]

exactly. fundamentally boof design

[silent spruce]

there isnt really any way to buff rogue atm unless you completely rework the class imo

the more you buff rogue the more landmine rogues theres gonna be and those are not fun for anyone

[pallid hemlock]

finesse-based invisbility and air-hopping are here to stay, while poison (real thing that exists btw) scales with magic. idk what drugs they on but they sound like some crazy new-age stuff

[hasty creek]

SQUIRE WILL YOU PLEASE JUST LET ME CHOOSE WHICH BLUES YOU TAKE I DONT WANNA SWITCH TO CHARACTER WHERE I HAVE NO BLUES JUST FOR SUCH A LOW REWARD QUEST

[silent spruce]

poison is relatively fine tbh

i kinda like how it rewards you for staying in ppl face and constantly hitting them

[pallid hemlock]

i just think its funny that it scales with magic. like why? posion? rogue? magic? ok, i guess

[silent spruce]

with how it stacks

[silent spruce]

i mean if potions scales off magical healing then why shouldnt be poison be magical

both are alchemy

makes sense to me

[pallid hemlock]

and then you have double jump and hide.... which are like finsesse-based skills ig

[pallid hemlock]

do they? i tought it was physical

[silent spruce]

bandages and ale is physical

potions druid and cleric is magical

[pallid hemlock]

i mean... potions also arent real while poison is. i just think its funny, "poison is magical" must be a diablo thing or something

[slim oak]

Is there a way to join a secondary class discussion tab?

[stone idol]

4 physical power or +1 physical damage?

[rotund crow]

am i the only 1 that thinks the game feels like shit after this most recent patch?

[sturdy coral]

actually feels better for me after patch

[twin edge]

i dont know why but for example fighting Ancient Stingray feels very inconsistent after the patch, although it might be just a placebo. I was perfectly parring it and now some attacks goes through my usual parries.

[languid needle]

Is there a channel here to request a feature or qol improvement? Cuz I'm a controller player and looting with controller is a pain in the arse, I wish there was Grid snap navigation for inventory, loot and stash, cuz it's near impossible to loot with a controller

[lapis tinsel]

guys, how unlock spear on squire?

[silent spruce]

50 affinity with the weaponsmith i think ?

[south copper]

i believe its weaponsmith quests

[lapis tinsel]

ty

[silent spruce]

or 25 idk i forgot

[pallid hemlock]

definitely not

[silent spruce]

just keep doing weaponsmith quest till u get it

[pallid hemlock]

thatll probably come when they port the boof to console

🇵 🇴 🇷 🇹 🇹 🇭 🇪 🇧 🇴 🇴 🇫

[warm tendon]

Please make it so that if an item has:

• 3 dex
• 3 agi

and you go and socket something on it that it cannot roll a 1. This is such a deal breaker. I spend billions of gold just to roll a 1 and now I need to start over, get another billion gold. Way fun

[deep helm]

the tailor kill jellyfish, does he not mean the giant one?

[warm tendon]

No the small ones that are near the reef and below the bridge at the bladehand boss

[charred veldt]

This makes no sense

[nocturne urchin]

who else rubber banding

[charred veldt]

With gem socketing normal attributes you are gambling

[warm tendon]

I spend 50k then roll a 1 item is useless now

[charred veldt]

1 less attribute = useless?

🤔

[warm tendon]

I had 3 dex, 3 agi and roll 1 will. Yes In my book that is not okay.

[charred veldt]

Aha, and...?

[wild scaffold]

does debuff duration work with druid dreamwalk cooldown?

[charred veldt]

Yessir

[warm tendon]

Yes

[warm tendon]

If you want to go for such a build you will need both Buff and Debuff duration

[subtle heart]

Which is better, physical power or additional damage?

[charred veldt]

Look, if it was knowledge I'd get it

[charred veldt]

Add physical if you hit fast

[wild scaffold]

but cooldown also works with it too right?

[charred veldt]

For builds that required certain memcap

[charred veldt]

No

Wait

Wrong message

[subtle heart]

Longsword fighter

[charred veldt]

Yes then

I'd say

[warm tendon]

No it is not a skill, you will need buff duration to stay in it longer and debuff duration to get it back quicker.

edit: will would be a good stat, it gives both buff and debuf duration.

[wild scaffold]

it says cdr applies to perks, so i currently have a cooldown build with like 50% cdr and cuts the dreamwalk by about half but wanted to know if it stacks both, i only have 7.7 debuf so mathemathically it doesnt add up to where its just that 7.7

[stone idol]

i have 30 gold coin pouches...

[subtle heart]

So physical power then?

[warm tendon]

This is completely new to me. I will have to do a bunch of testing to determine if this is correct. As far as I know. cooldown reduction does nothing for your buff or debuf durations.

[charred veldt]

You are playing parte fighter, right?

You probably have high strength by default

The less strength you have the better physical power is

[wild scaffold]

yea when you hover over cdr it says perks too, so i gave it a try and it seems like its working its just not enough even at 9-8 seconds cd

[warm tendon]

The labels are often wrong. Only testing can determine this.

[neat urchin]

Kinda feel like a buying "strike" needs to happen for redstone shards.

This is a video game we play for fun. There is 0 reason a SKIN should cause $14 in a video game we play for pleasure.

Greedy devs like this really suck.

[silent spruce]

its a skin who gives a shit

its purely cosmetic

[neat urchin]

It's the fact that they feel justified charging prices like that. It's pure greed.

[silent spruce]

the game is free to play

[neat urchin]

"Free to demo".

[silent spruce]

legendary just gives highroller and other class slots

thats about it

and you can still change class

[neat urchin]

You're a funny fella. Gl friend

[silent spruce]

if you're going to complain about something complain about the workshop

[subtle heart]

Yeah

[rancid nova]

workshop is ass as the game is do something about teaming at solos wtf keep all the abusers and the hackers at the game and then say we have content

[charred veldt]

We have content

But the content is extremely expensive

😭

[fervent anvil]

its prob gonna get lowered eventually. i think they want people to put the leftover gold from the bug into it so it uses up the gold

[solar fog]

Couod someone enlighten me where exactly (module on map) can i use key to treasure room on Water Map ?

[winter marlin]

can someone explain me the use/purpose of lightfoot boots?

[stone idol]

run faster

[winter marlin]

nah, I mean: considering there's boots like dashing boots, that have implicit agility (for example, blue ones have 2, and that would make those boots 6+2 movespeed), what's the point on using lightfoot boots when you can equip other boots with more armour/magic resist, run as fast as with lightfoot, and save item slots?

[wheat fulcrum]

is it still possible to migrate from Epic games launcher rn?

[prisma horizon]

agi is 0.3ms atm

[winter marlin]

ooh, I thought 1agi was 1 movespeed

that is the answer i was looking for, ty

[prisma horizon]

used to be 0.75 or 0.5 dont remember but got nerfed this season

also give u attack speed

[stone idol]

6+1.5

sorry so yeah sorry there 6+1

7k down the drain for me not paying attention 💔

[charred veldt]

agility is kinda garbage

[frigid vortex]

why rogues so op rn lmao

[charred veldt]

Unless you are running a panther druid

[winter marlin]

just wanted to run a clown rogue build

[charred veldt]

Does somebody know the price to upgrade a workshop to level 5?

[winter marlin]

so it doesn't matter

[charred veldt]

I mean

That's not a clown rogue build

[prisma horizon]

40k

[charred veldt]

that's a headshot damage build

wait

what did you say

40K?

[winter marlin]

its a clown build, because i fart emote and drop caltrops before running away

[charred veldt]

on quest money alone or buying sh!t to upgrade it

[solemn geyser]

anyone know what artifacts can drop from center goblin caves?

are there any at all or specific ones?

[prisma horizon]

alone

it need also 20 blue wood & 10 epic

its rly not worth tbh

[stone idol]

40k aint bad

just two spectral fabrics

[prisma horizon]

aint that hard to get but like u unlock nothing rly good

[stone idol]

i hate the ufkcing bardiche

[sturdy coral]

theres no way im gonna be caught dead paying for logs thats ridiculous its so easy to get

[stone idol]

if your rich why not

[charred veldt]

You can get insane rolls for cloaks

And upgrade legendaries into uniques

You can scrap unique garbage and roll for a max magical heal cloak and get filthy rich

[stone idol]

danii

i can do spectral knight easy now

[charred veldt]

Does anyone know if mysterious potion rates are the same in pve than HR 🤔 ?

[stone idol]

dont need to jump crouch that low swing just parry it

[charred veldt]

nice to hear

[stone idol]

what colour are they as in rarity

[rapid vapor]

they're legendary

[rapid vapor]

probably not

[pure saffron]

My brother is having issues updating the game using blacksmith lanucher..it is stuck on 0%
we tried restarting computer, uninstalled game and started launcher as admin.
Any ideas ?

[vocal swift]

guys did they nuke my wizard class?

[full wagon]

Do steam?

[solar sage]

This game's loop literally lasts less than a week after wipe.

From that point theirs legit no way that ya can claw back progress

[stone idol]

hr better then

[stone idol]

wym

you can easily catch up

[pure saffron]

is that a thing ?

linking the account to steam or ?

[warm locust]

will the barbarian nonsense ever cease

ts is the new ratting. I get a kill and then a green blue barbarian stands on the body and i get 1 hit if i try to loot it

[stone idol]

OKIE U CANT PARRY THE STAFF HUH?

[frozen sleet]

anyone else lagging a shit ton today on us east?

[wheat fulcrum]

is it still possible to migrate acc from Epic games launcher rn?

[olive laurel]

Does anyone feel hitting natures touch, Tree of life is significantly worse post patch?

[charred veldt]

scaling was reduced

[solar sage]

Big dawg with the current market prices, I aint catchin up to 50K HR kits.