game-discussion

[tough plume]

i got like sword back

but nothing else but idk what the conditions are

[smoky jetty]

whats good

[halcyon kite]

You gotta max his rep out, but the quests are not there to do that yet lol

[tough plume]

so you only get like a primary back?

like what

[halcyon kite]

Nah it’s random like always. Based on your reputation with the goblin. Right now if you complete all the quests you still can’t max him out

[tough plume]

right now the max you can get is 100? or 75

75 right

[subtle goblet]

75 and yes it sucks at that level but we don't have more quests yet so can't do much

[willow herald]

r they gonna patch the gold dupe alrdy ??

[cyan walrus]

troll pelt 31k tf is going on ? how will they fix the economy

[willow herald]

spectral is 40k xd

[cyan walrus]

unplayable 💔

[willow herald]

no , it makes it more fun . easy to get money if you farm bosses

the problem is , they RMT

[cyan walrus]

no since everything is so expensive selling it won’t make a difference because non dupers don’t have that much storage

and all sales must be claimed within 6 days

or 7 i think

[willow herald]

yeah i legit don t have space for that

so idk , they gotta fix this shit fast

inflation is wild

[cyan walrus]

yhh so even farming pelts etc won’t work since i can’t even store 15k 😂

[surreal terrace]

just have one of your characters be a money account ez a full page of small gold coin bag holds like 22k x5 is 110k to hold

[woeful raft]

1 FULL PAGE of gold coin purses i believe is 24k

[agile grove]

Don't forget guys Graysun said gold dupe didn't change the economy 🤣

[echo sparrow]

is there a channel where to post clips

[muted pebble]

dnd clips channel

[surreal terrace]

Was going off the top of my head you’re probably right

[sonic dove]

anyone else feel like there was a nerf to drops from skeleton corpses?

[nocturne urchin]

i never loot monsters

[sonic dove]

sorry I dont mean monsters I mean the dead bodies that are wrapped in a cloak or w/e

[nocturne urchin]

oh

dont they usually just have gold coin pouches ?

[sonic dove]

I seem to remember them giving gems a lot

[vocal igloo]

break the praying skeles on the ground for gems

[muted pebble]

there was, shadow patch

lots of gems and rings amulets yeah

[stone idol]

they need to bring back gear score lobbies

[fervent anvil]

Nah

[stone idol]

just shows your one of them that run blue gear in max just to kill squire

[gray urchin]

they need to remove dark offering and true invis rogues

[stone idol]

they dont though

[fervent anvil]

;)

[stone idol]

for a rogue its the only way they can basically kill someone

[fervent anvil]

Invis rogues yeah. Ut whats wrong with DO?

[gray urchin]

i know and that is the reason they have to change it. It is so annoying to play around

i think dark offering is just a bad mechanic

[stone idol]

yeah but there aint many invis rogues

[gray urchin]

i see a lot of them

[stone idol]

atm all anyone is playing is barb or fighter cause they are stupid op

[fervent anvil]

Well yeah you aint gonna see em. They are invis

[stone idol]

like how you telling me you can just 2 hit with a bardiche if someone is in max gear

[open flax]

Are we getting workshop today?

[acoustic plover]

i can 1 shot a pdr fighter with a barb when i go for 80% headshot or higher

[fervent anvil]

We will find out later today. If theres an announcement with it. Then yes. If there isnt. Then no

[gray urchin]

It is just supid ame design to make a class only playable when landmining, it does not make fun to play against that and it is boring to landmine, you are just caming corners and waiting to get a good timing, but it does not take skill

[gritty sorrel]

That’s fucking crazy

[stone idol]

exactly broken ass character

should not exist

[gray urchin]

to play around it, you basically have to wait like 30 seconds every corner, wich is so annoying that i decide to just not play around it

[open flax]

Ok thank you

[gritty sorrel]

Play water map. Its open enough Where you dont really have to worry about barbarians if u have a decent move speed

[stone idol]

ad they need to find a way to fix teaming in solos cause that is also just getting annoying

[acoustic plover]

agree but its fun when solos team on me

[long hornet]

Yeah, Barb and fighter have needed some nerfs for awhile. But it’s the Timmy classes for people who are trash at the game. So they keep them op so casuals don’t quit

[acoustic plover]

its every lobby

[gray urchin]

but to be fair, you can report, and i already got people banned for teaming just by reporting

[stone idol]

like they should make it

[gritty sorrel]

I feel like normal gamemode teaming is fine? Its fun to do like bosses in a group. The slight thrill of someone might betray is fun

[fluid tulip]

Doubt we will get work shop today since I’m sure most of their attention has been on the bullshit the player base does lol. People complain about not getting content then proceed to make 9x the work to fix exploits and shit 😂

[stone idol]

if you dont attack someone with in a certain time you sdhould be debuuffed

[stone idol]

no its solos

[gritty sorrel]

Yea in solos

[stone idol]

if your in solos you do it solo thats the point its pvp if u want a group go do trios or duos

or if you want to group then go pve

[gritty sorrel]

That doesnt have the same thrill and social side

Yesterday I had a funny encounter at troll, if that wasnt allowed that would kind of suck away at the soul of the game

[stone idol]

everytime i see a group in solos i end up dead because they kill me

in a group

they are basically not playing solos at that point

[gritty sorrel]

Join the group! Though pre lobby teaming is annoing

[stone idol]

nah

end of the day

poeple should be debuffed if not attacking a player after so long

it would then completely stop teaming

[gritty sorrel]

That would be horrible

[stone idol]

nope it would fix the mechanics of teaming

[gritty sorrel]

A long standoff if you have bad aim you just lose

[stone idol]

there would be a set range

and if there attacking you

you aint gonna get the debuff

because you being attacked

but if u actively not hitting one another

[long hornet]

They couldn’t code that without hella bugs

[gritty sorrel]

I’ve had like 5 minute standoffs at door. And if you do it like that it wouldent solve anything, you’d just punch the guy youre teaming with every now and then

[stone idol]

thats why it would be solos

either way

they need to do something

cause its getting stupid now

its solos there is no teaming simple as

[long hornet]

Just play barb or fighter. You can win 1v3s easily the classes are so braindead

[meager forge]

Yea with how badly this game is coded i wouldnt trust them with something that sofisticated and nested 😂

[fervent anvil]

But that would also kill off friendly interactions overall. Theres people that have fun just talking ot people in the dungeon

[stone idol]

bro

i stg

go play pve

do you not understand what PVP

means

[fervent anvil]

The game is pvpve. Its not only pvp

[stone idol]

and there is a PVE section

where you can not hit players

if you want to be friendly with everyone go play there

[long hornet]

Pve is dumb af. Shouldn’t exist

[stone idol]

but it sohuld

because thats clearly how half the people wanna play

because they end up teaming in pvp

[long hornet]

Teaming is not that bad yall are tripping

[fervent anvil]

Yup. I like all my friendly interactions being after a teamfight. Or joining up with someone i run past while running from a team

[stone idol]

and my other argument is

lets remove +1 all stats from gear

but hey lets give fighter +5 all stats

[fervent anvil]

If you want only pvp that badly then wait for arena

[long hornet]

+5 and swift and adrenaline or sprint. Full plate outrunning full cloth by a ton makes 0 sense

[stone idol]

exactly my poiint its broken

[long hornet]

“Plate is slow” since when. Why is cloth slower

[stone idol]

and if you aint running bardiche

your doing it wrong in this game

[sonic maple]

You should get max 3 pve games a day

[long hornet]

You shouldn’t be able to pve past level 20

[nocturne urchin]

Where were you when you realized there's not gonna be a rollback and no one is gonna get banned for duping?

[acoustic plover]

i just want an offline mode where i dont have to worried about cheaters and i can play the game with people i know without bs

[long hornet]

Hella people already been banned wym

[surreal terrace]

lol what

[long hornet]

I logged in to 6 ban notifications

[cyan walrus]

when are they fixing economy

[stone idol]

its just a point of the game now where this game is in shambles

[long hornet]

They banning peeps

[stone idol]

this wipe is the worst wipe so far

[sonic maple]

I've gotten 5 ban confirms today

[nocturne urchin]

you reported peole for duping? how does that work.

[sonic maple]

Keep the farmers at bay

[stark plinth]

I hope they roll out bans. I was in VC with a dude who was hosting duos. “PVP BIS HR” I joined and just screen shared 2 pages of full chest. Dude said show me your inventory, if you have less than 1 page of chests I know you’re not good.

[long hornet]

Reports I forgot about people are now getting banned. They’re going through and doing bans

[surreal terrace]

they dont even make that much in pve do they

[acoustic plover]

how do you find people duping? i wanna report this too lol

[sonic maple]

Quest items in blue maelstrom all day

[stark plinth]

Also claimed to have found 87 Artifacts since start of wipe LOL

[nocturne urchin]

yeah how did u find people duping to even report them

[surreal terrace]

ah true

[long hornet]

Pelts and spectrals drop the same in pve atm

[stark plinth]

You dont, nothing will happen

[long hornet]

They raised the percents last patch

[sonic maple]

Melts the brain

[stark plinth]

HR troll is easier than Norms tho @long hornet

[near rose]

Ban wave Incoming

[sonic maple]

True

[stark plinth]

If they roll ban wave out im HOLDING THE LINE

[long hornet]

Only noobs play pve, barbs or fighters. We all know it’s a fact. Anyone who thinks opposite is coping from their lack of skill

[near rose]

I'm down for that ban all dupers

[stark plinth]

if no ban is out im going to be very angry but still play because nothing can hit this niche like dark and darker

[near rose]

Same that's valid

[stone idol]

they need to wipe the season

cause everything is overinflated and gold was way too easy to get this season

[fringe garnet]

The gold being easy is intended though.

[stone idol]

eh just over inflates everything

[stark plinth]

Yeah I have been farming troll pelts all wipe just hoarding them waiting for spectral fabrics to drop when I farm… I have like 9 troll pelts doesnt feel real with how expensive they are

[fringe garnet]

It's not inflation though, the inflation is caused by the dupe

[formal river]

Ban the dupers for the map!

[stark plinth]

Ban the dupers!!!

[fringe garnet]

If anything, droprates for certain quest items could go up

[stone idol]

gear costing 30k a peice is not inflated?

[fringe garnet]

That's because of the dupe

[stone idol]

could buy full kits for 20k a season ago

[patent badger]

are there any other games similar to it?

[fringe garnet]

Not the gold.

[stone idol]

before the dupe

[formal river]

Gold went up since last season

[stark plinth]

I just dont understand the point of duping besides monetary gain. But lets be real if youre using DARK AND DARKER to make money you probably shouldnt be playing the game LOL

[fringe garnet]

I was spending like 2k, 3k at most

[formal river]

It’s easier to get

[patent badger]

yeah...

[stone idol]

thats what im saying

[near rose]

Rmt is happy with this dupe

[formal river]

I’ve got 200k in gems from water map

Gold aint hard

[tulip arch]

Not exactly like they are playing the game

[stark plinth]

Whats the fun in the game if you didnt do anything for the gear and have infinite money. Its playing Minecraft on Creative Mode. Their is no aspect of gain at that point.

[fringe garnet]

Gold is more plentiful; storage gives more per slot; marketplace can sell up to 100k

People have more money, so stuff is more expensive

[stone idol]

and for casual players there gonna struggle

[surreal terrace]

chinese players sell to america because our dollar is so strong they make a decent profit for what they do

[formal river]

I’m casual

[fallow blaze]

no update today? hit a force wipe and leave the levels/quests thats it

[stone idol]

best way to make money is to hit key rooms

[formal river]

And I’m doing fine

[stone idol]

if they dont know about key rooms

there basically done for

[tulip arch]

They like to ruin other peoples games by smashing them with high tier loot that they feel no risk using and irl cash

[formal river]

Hit the water map?

[fringe garnet]

Casual players struggled before as well

[stark plinth]

Enough to pay for their PC Cafe membership to do it all over again

[warm ingot]

Bro this week Items trippled+ in price this wasn't because gold is more plentiful naturally

[surreal terrace]

yup exactly

[formal river]

Water map free piles free gems free map

[stark plinth]

Its a shitty way to live life IMO

[stone idol]

such a shit map

[formal river]

It’s a grinding map

[fallow blaze]

dollar is so strong it is crumbling for the past months

[fringe garnet]

Dark and Darker isn't a casual game; it takes time to get into. You could give a 'casual' person trying to pick the game up a full kit of bis legendaries + uniques and they'd still lose out to a more experienced player in blue and purple gemmed

[stark plinth]

compare our dollar to their currency LOL

[tulip arch]

In like 3 days spectral coin bag went from 20k to 78k and now its prob higher

[formal river]

?

More then 3 days but keep it up

[sonic maple]

So many dogs

[half fable]

90k spectral bag rn

[stark plinth]

Spec bags are sitting at 95k right now

[formal river]

Good I bought some last night for 50k

[fallow blaze]

1,330 to 2,780 USD average montly sallary in china

[tulip arch]

Literally last night where at 78k

Wild

[formal river]

Spectral bags are bought and sold a lot so price goes up and down a lot

[tulip arch]

Cant even sell mine because I CANT BUY STORAGE

[stark plinth]

Not sure what that can get you in China but I know for a fact you cant live off 2700 a month in the US

[formal river]

Use the gold purse method

[sonic maple]

Their delivery drivers just rioted because wernt getting paid

[fervent anvil]

Have stashes on another character for just coin purses/pouches

[fallow blaze]

yeah cus of hyper inflation and godless printing of dollars

[tulip arch]

Ik im gonna have

To

[formal river]

I got 5 stashed of purses

[stark plinth]

Out of all the chatters in here right now statistically one of us is a DUPER

[tulip arch]

Its you

[formal river]

I’m a duper

[stark plinth]

Who is it.. fess up, explain your reasoning

[fervent anvil]

Its you aint it?

[formal river]

I duped because I’m poor and needed to feel included

[stone idol]

right i couuldnt afford kits okie and was dieing to barbs so i had to do something

[fringe garnet]

That's not what we're talking about

[nocturne urchin]

should i go to spectral knight in PVE with 150% interaction speed and steal the boss loot?

yay or nay

[tulip arch]

Im finna dupe hunting traps

[formal river]

Yeeee

[stark plinth]

Damn, I typed out a msg but it got blocked because I used the word 💩

[nocturne urchin]

fiiiine

[formal river]

Poo

P

[tulip arch]

Poison bottle dupe would go crazy

[nocturne urchin]

shit

[stone panther]

shite

[nocturne urchin]

the word shit works buddy

[stark plinth]

buy a lyre with +12 resourcefulness

[formal river]

Poop

[tulip arch]

Feces

[stone panther]

lePoo with cheese

[nocturne urchin]

im already at 150%, can it go higher?

[formal river]

Yeee

[stark plinth]

is there a cap?

[formal river]

Nooo

[nocturne urchin]

i thought i read 152% is the cap

[tulip arch]

Man 500 luck is so easy to get rn in pve

[nocturne urchin]

but maybe wiki is wrong

[stark plinth]

Luck is… nevermind who is going to tell Kaim

[tulip arch]

Can just go wear like 3 uniques with luck

[stone idol]

spectral farm going crazyt

[tulip arch]

Ik its not realky working

[fallow blaze]

whos gonna tell him that luck doens't work

[wise notch]

who is kaim?

[tulip arch]

Idk

[stark plinth]

idk

[wise notch]

but you’re kaim

[nocturne urchin]

bro thinks luck works when the devs literally said it doesnt

[wise notch]

so wdym u don’t know who that is??

[stark plinth]

[tulip arch]

Any luck under 300 i feel like makes the loot worse but i do feel like above that its working

[tulip arch]

I dont trust the devs with anything

[stark plinth]

You know what I still run Adventurers luck and pick the luck religion

luck = placebo effect

placebo effect is confirmed to work

so technically that means luck does work

if you let it

[charred veldt]

I would, if there wasnt a magic pen religion

[tulip arch]

Orc logic

[stark plinth]

A fellow Sorc Main

[charred veldt]

Too good to pass when playing nuke warlock

[tulip arch]

Ew

[charred veldt]

110 damage dark bolt

[stark plinth]

Oh god warlock dark bolt

[tulip arch]

Such creatures that im talking to

[stark plinth]

I main support druid

[nocturne urchin]

if i buy red orc for 100k can i use it now? and do i keep it for future seasons?

[stark plinth]

yes and yes

[nocturne urchin]

hmmm ok ill trust you

[surreal terrace]

highest minimum wage is 2320 yuan which is 336 usd a month

[fallow blaze]

wtf does highest minimum wage mean

[charred veldt]

What an oxymoron

[stone idol]

different ages

[fallow blaze]

I mean I am not a hater but the minimum wage in the USA is $2.13 per hour for tipping jobs

I am sure the beggers jobs without tips are cooked

[surreal terrace]

federal minimum is 7.25 you are making atleast 1k a month

[surreal terrace]

shanghai has highest monthly minimum wage*

[fallow blaze]

not correct, it's lower, its 2.13 for tipping jobs and 4.25 for employees under 20

[delicate nymph]

@glad thunder you clown, you nerf air skills for sorc, and nerf squire gear, why on earth would you increase the knowledge needed for the skills too????

are you saying i have to get gear to play sorc? or can't play him?

do they understand what blancing mean?

[surreal terrace]

for tipping jobs it is 2.13 but if you dont make up to 7.25 with those tips your employer has to pay to make up the diff

[delicate nymph]

instead of adjusting something to be balanced, they nerf it to ground. it's like they don't know how to put it half way. they nerf sorc by increasing cooldown, but nope not enough they nerf the damge and passives. they nerf air mastery, not enough they increase the knowledge needed to use air skills. i swear they do that to every class. instead of making small adjustment to balance, they are like well, this skill is strong so let's make it usless

[fallow blaze]

that is correct

but don't tell me you can actually make some real money from dark and darker in china

[surreal terrace]

I dont know how much they actually make but im pretty sure they can make minimum wage relative to where they live doing this

[surreal terrace]

I mean the fact that rmt is such a massive problem in the extraction genre probably means its profitable. Just look at the cheating problem in Tarkov.

[deep helm]

god damn this game sucks

[fallow blaze]

I agree, but I was talking specifically about chinese people, for them I dont think it would be that much money

[deep helm]

i aint ever had a problem with lag, or freezing until today. First game and i wasted probably a good 2 minutes freezing constantly

[peak swallow]

why my character is level 1 ?

i play last time 1 month a go

[swift dew]

new season

[deep helm]

new season has been over a month

[peak swallow]

when is new seson is reseting level and items?

[deep helm]

not for another few months

[peak swallow]

this seson how many month have when is finish

[deep helm]

did u have a stroke?

[pseudo flicker]

We should have a miniwipe each month. You can keep your levels and quests, but it would hurt RMT scammers and sweatlords. It would be healthy for the game.

[deep helm]

thatd be bad in the long run, good for short term rn bc of the duping and gold bugs but come a season without those itd be terrible

[pseudo flicker]

bad because people cant hoard millions?

[coarse falcon]

Y’all know people have lives right 💀

[pseudo flicker]

Thats why the miniwipe would be healthy..

[deep helm]

thats why it wouldnt be healthy

ur telling those like me who have saved up a bunch of gear from the runs i can do that they dont matter. This would benifit sweats more since they can hoard gear and gold much faster than normal ppl

[pseudo flicker]

or just put gold coin bags to collector at 10k ja chests for 50k

[unreal rampart]

is there a max for how many of the same rings you can craft?

[deep helm]

there shouldnt be

[odd grove]

a stash tab full of purses is 24k

no need to sell chests from the merchants

rare things are good

[coarse falcon]

Is people having gold to buy gear and play the game a bad thing? I’m confused

[unreal rampart]

some rings that i craft alot just got removed from goldsmith

[deep helm]

theyll be back in a bit, he is just tired of making them

[unreal rampart]

alr i hope

ty

[pseudo flicker]

problem is the inflation gets out of hand... there will always apparently be a gold dupe each season

[deep helm]

apparently but also tbf the market is extremely out of wack and the fact ppl r using spectral bags as currency and money laundering

[long hornet]

Most items have stayed the same in price

[gritty sorrel]

How can I craft with gold?

[long hornet]

Only like 6 items have skyrocketed. The rest is about the same

[odd grove]

turn it into either powder or ingots and level up the merchants to access the crafts

[cunning bear]

No game update?

[odd grove]

armorer and tailor i think

[gritty sorrel]

Which merchant crafts the gold cloak?

[deep helm]

depends what u r after, i mean quest items that are even a 1/4 chance are sky rocketing, not to mention those that are actually a little more rare

[fickle rapids]

The worst thing is that the company has been saying for a while that it doesn't control anything. Absolutely no normal specifics.

[long hornet]

So quest items, for quests to craft bis items. You’re a causal who complains, you don’t need to do those quests

[deep helm]

u cant really regulate a market like this tho without changing the game and adding some items to be sold

[deep helm]

lol but i have most quests done. I just have a fun stuck behind things like crab shells or finding a place bc all i run is HR fire deep

[odd grove]

is the loot good in fire deep, i only go there for colossus

[deep helm]

just cuz i play it casually and like the pve more than pvp doesnt mean i dont like to quest and actually make improvements towards my gear

[long hornet]

You like the pve in a pvp game. Good god, anything you say shouldn’t be regarded

[deep helm]

its not too bad, i dont maximize profits like others but i say its worth it normally. Epsecially since not too many go to it

[deep helm]

its a both game but go off ig

[long hornet]

It’s only a both game now because Timmy’s can’t handle learning the game

They’ll be deleting it again soon don’t worry

[deep helm]

its always been a both game. I dont expect sm1 with ur 6 classes to really understand tho

[long hornet]

So what’s the point of you getting gear then? To hit harder on pve? Or to get a lot of money, buy an arena kit, and play like ass because you’re clueless? End goal seems meaningless no matter which way

[odd grove]

chill

[long hornet]

Game been out almost 3 years, and people still have gear fear and are scared to pvp 🤣 this ain’t the game for you

[deep helm]

just bc i dont pvp and dont like to doesnt mean i cant lol. I just dont choose to go and look for a fight when i dont need to

[long hornet]

If you could, you would. Its that simple anything to the contrary is lying to yourself

[deep helm]

my goal is gear, money, and quests, why actively look for a fight and possibly ruin a run? Seems backwards

[long hornet]

Least you say it yourself you’re scared and don’t have the confidence to win. How do you get better? Experience. Ahhh pain no dying please no. What a noob

[granite bluff]

Its technically a PvPvE game not just a PvP game with some PvE… just cuz someone likes the PvE element of the game dont mean you gotta be an ass abt it

[deep helm]

never said im scared. Just id rather not. Ive been playing since playtest 1. Ik how to pvp and how the game works. Id rather vibe, quest, and making money than run around actively looking for fights and run into a meta build sweat

[long hornet]

Yes, it’s completely justified. They ruin the balancing of the game because of it. If you don’t get how, you’re new here

[twin edge]

I just hope they will season ban all dupers and associated accounts who benefited from it.

[zinc fossil]

even if i got a pelt. I wouldnt be able to retrieve the money because I dont have the space for the gold

[twin edge]

If they don’t, this game is cooked.

[granite bluff]

Been around since playtest 3… i think you just need to chill out bro… game isnt just PVP cuz thats what YOU want it to be, ya clown

[neat urchin]

Sdf has to ride the short bus to work. There is literally video evidence of the gold dupe happening and he goes "it is to early to determine if there has been any actual impact and we really dont want to jump to conclusions". Complete clown.

[long hornet]

Skill trumps build and class. Maybe if you took the time to learn, but keep running away. It’s easier right?

[odd grove]

stashtab of purses is 24k its doable

[long hornet]

It’s ok if you’re scared too. Keep running 🙂

[zinc siren]

Its of video of someone with an inventory of chests?? There is no proof bro

[granite bluff]

Im not scared, you’re just weird for attacking someone in here for liking PVE, im just calling you out for being punk lol

[deep helm]

god ur just wrong on so many levels yet somehow also half right. A decent meta build will typically beat 90% of players. The 10% are your top top top players but those are rare to come across.

[twin edge]

Should we leak the dupe method on YouTube to publicity to have a proof?

[deep helm]

yes god yes

[twin edge]

It’s gonna be fun.

[real elbow]

are the servers down im not getting into hr

[deep helm]

leak it so these ppl get banned and its patched

[twin edge]

Maybe Ironmace would at least see this as a problem but if this happens this season is fully cooked.

They need to ban all people doing it and all associated accounts who benefited.

[deep helm]

season was already cooked back on day 1 and then again week 1

[twin edge]

I just want to see all the sweat lords who transferred duped money through few accounts to get nuked.

Imagine thinking this is not traceable.

[fallow blaze]

ban dupers and wipe

[deep helm]

if its not a broken class its a money glitch

got to love the devs

[twin edge]

You can request GDPR data from Ironmace to see what they see and figure out if you are save transferring even though multiple accounts.

[odd grove]

these past few patches have been so good, something had to ruin it lmao

[deep helm]

ong tho like they been nerfing things that need nerfed and shit felt somewhat playable for once

[odd grove]

gdpr requests can take weeks

[twin edge]

30 days max

I did this with other games.

[odd grove]

exactly

[deep helm]

i am a huge sdf hater, i think the guy needs to be castrated and fired but even i have to agree its been a few decent patches

[odd grove]

so if they do anything itll be done by then

[odd grove]

paul is our saviour since he started patches have been good

[deep helm]

i do think the buff to disarm after its nerf was a misstep tho

[woeful raft]

lmao bro you are insufferable holy.

[deep helm]

XD everyone hates this darkndarkeralt guy

i will always be team rework range (mostly bows), make them more realistic when shooting

[prisma swift]

where is my legendary status? 2 years ago i bought it and now its gone? I had it on steam

[odd grove]

contact support king

[long hornet]

Says the dude with a childish anime picture. Grow up

[deep helm]

thats not really anime, it looks like hand drawn

[long hornet]

Are you blind? Hand drawn huh

[deep helm]

it aint a popular anime character i can tell ya that

[odd grove]

guy is a ragebaiter why are you still replying

they do it all the time

[deep helm]

its fun

im chilling rn, got my drink and snack

bro is fun to mess with

but back to it, rework archery to be more realistic

[odd grove]

what would that look like

[deep helm]

How long you hold down LMB is how far you draw your bow. So if you just tap it, it shoots but like 2 in in front of you. Jumping and moving faster than a slow walk adds a bit of variation to your shot. So for example, if I am moving a lot to my left my shot will have a bloom to the left.

make it actually take skill

[odd grove]

so youre saying you should be able to shoot your bow as soon as it starts drawing

or after the full pull back animation

[deep helm]

as soon as the arrow is placed u can shoot but depending upon how far u draw the bow is how far the arrow goes and dmg too

[odd grove]

idk about that

[deep helm]

like a real life bow, if i barely draw it and it flops a foot in front of me, it aint gonna do like any dmg, while if i draw it all the way itll do max dmg

[odd grove]

it means youd be able to spam people at close range with no action speed needed

[deep helm]

u fix the dmg to be for how much u drew it too

so if there is barely draw and u r trying to spam it close range it is doing like no dmg compared to if u actually draw the bow properly

i just personally think range is too easy and always been really good. May not be meta but its always been reliable asf and a shreader

[odd grove]

well if you believe sdf ranger/rogue is getting new stuff before the end of the season

[deep helm]

i dont believe him even if i saw the proof

[stone idol]

can halberd just completely be removed from the game ty

[deep helm]

add bardiche into that and u got a deal

[stone idol]

completly agree

make only long sword

might make people actually try a different weapon jesus

[still wyvern]

anyone with "Account is investigated" problem? Im not gonna be able to play 2 days because of this sht bug?xD

what a joke

[stone idol]

you sure you aint duping pal

cause to me that sounds like your being investiaged when you have normally done something wrong

[still wyvern]

im just playing solo all the time

killing ppl, selling stuff on the market thats all lol

[zinc fossil]

just like you! burn. just kidding

[hallow pawn]

.kljsaq2ä#+

[odd grove]

i tried it once and immediately realised how trash it was

[past spoke]

bunch of teamers down frost caves in HR

[next epoch]

wait is it bannable to loot a pile together with someone else right next to you in HR solos

[deep helm]

no its fine, as long as u rnt killing others with them its not teaming

u can loot together and be peaceful and its all good. Ppl will complain abt it, but it aint teaming

[next epoch]

ooh okay

[zinc fossil]

in normals only you talkin?

[dense bison]

The HR description in-game says "friendly encounters are prohibited". Looting with someone is friendly. Dont do it

I mean, the chances of getting in trouble for that are basically 0 but yes thats what it says in-game

[prisma horizon]

it literally makes the looters unkillable so pretty unfair

[deep helm]

yea well screw the devs

[dense bison]

It is kinda a lame thing to do. HR is meant to be dangerous. What if someone rolls up on y'all to fight. Then it becomes a 2v1 pvp encounter whether you like it or not

[maiden crypt]

Play in my region it is either empty lobbies or everyone looting

[deep helm]

idk what lobbies u guys r getting that ppl use their mics

95% of the ppl i run into dont use it or have one

[dense pawn]

Afaik it's bannable. I've gotten people banned for that. Just imagine what happens if a third person enters the room while you share a pile. Who does he target? Maybe the one he damages runs and the other one is there to continue the fight. Or maybe the guy who has the best loot from the pile gets away because the other one distracts. Unfair for a "no friendly" game mode.

[deep helm]

ah, yea NA servers suck. These clowns r all no mic ing and its like bruh at least talk some smack when u full gold/unique kit murder me

[deep helm]

or u just also be friendly and share the pile too. Crazy concept ik. Or even see that and back away slowly

[dense bison]

Yes this is 100% correct. Glad that people have consequences for doing this

[prisma horizon]

Ok so when i join to kill the guy that doin pile & see two people how am i suppose to react?

im just goin away since if i try to kill im in pure 2v1

[dense pawn]

Or maybe just not break the rules and play the game as intended? I go out of my way to either kill both teamers or die to them so I can report them.

As soon as I see teaming I start recording. If I had a better rig I would record all the time because sometimes I miss the juicy parts (when they peel for each other)

[deep helm]

I agree that 2 ppl staying together and running together is teaming but if they r together just killing a boss and looting so be it. Sometimes you need help with the bosses. If I see someone who just wants to make it to hell or mine or needs to find a place to quest i aint gonna swing. Ik it be, i been there

[zealous wing]

If your talking about norms that’s fine but it’s been very clear no friendly encounters in HR it’s on sight mang

[deep helm]

nah, if i see u, unless u attack first we cool

[zealous wing]

I will always attack in HR because that’s the rules, you can’t be friendly to another solo to loot a boss, just like two duos can’t do the same thing.

[deep helm]

u can, u just choose not to. Its called free will

[earnest forge]

You don't have to chase someone down and risk it all just because you saw someone. But if I see two people looting a pile together in HR they're both getting reported and I've gotten ban notifications for this

[maiden crypt]

If you see two people looting then shoot one with the gun

Then you only have to fight 1

[earnest forge]

True and tbf people that team up to loot on solos generally get dumpstered when the fighting starts lol

[rapid vapor]

I feel like some people genuinely believe they have to do the first part

[maiden crypt]

If they are standing still then the kill is free with the gun

[earnest forge]

Yeah same, I think it dissuades some people from HR due to confusion

[wraith stag]

Bring back hr pve

[strong dawn]

this isnt arc raiders we dont need "friendly" ppl or servers ruining the game go to pve mode

[deep helm]

nah ill stay in HR

[strong dawn]

wel be friendly and hopefully be banned

[deep helm]

not so much as friendly more so passive

[deep helm]

but i will continue, havent been banned yet

[low tendon]

most people who are firendly are in squire gear

[deep helm]

yerp, here for loot and ores

[low tendon]

fair enough but either run or fight dont try to be friendly

[deep helm]

or i do all 3

[dense pawn]

Doesn't matter. Rules are rules. If you have a full stash you should AVOID players. That's the only smart, sensible way to play if you want to make sure you survive. And avoiding insteading of spending time around them being friendly is not against the rules.

[zealous wing]

Just share a pile, help kill a boss, let them mine, these are friendly encounters… not passive ones lmao

[rapid vapor]

Lets be real that rule in particular exists because people were pre-teaming, grouping up in solos, and hunting down anyone that wasn't part of their group. I don't know if just general neutrality fits into that idea

[subtle heart]

Both me and another fighter just died to time because we fought instead of opening bridge and it’s got me question the nature of fighting and the futility of war and shit

[worn ether]

as long as Im not getting eiffel towered im ok with coexisting

[deep helm]

ong

[strong dawn]

Yea I mean if you see a guy asnd go in opposite direction sure. But if you are around another person being "friendly", hanging out not fighting or working together it should be bannable. Because now you are ruining the flow of the game and if another person comes up its all weird now.

[earnest forge]

I think the among us lobbies from back in the day were a big part of it. 3-4 people would form a gang and go hunt down people with gear and kill "non friendlies"

Game was ass at this point

[strong dawn]

This is why arc raider solo is trash as well

[wraith stag]

I play mmo/onlinestuff since ultima online (early 2000's)

Never saw "hardcore" players that scare about pve mode due a game glitch... LOL

[earnest forge]

"cHaRisMuH cHeCk iS ReAl"

[earnest forge]

Haven't played it hit I've heard it be called arc teamers lol

[zealous wing]

This is what I mean, you can be friendly say not killing the guy you just helped kill the boss and share pile with is fine… sure but if a third guy comes up and wants to play the game as intended, am I supposed to believe the two won’t gang on him? My 3 years has shown me the opposite

[low tendon]

i sometimes loot piles with someone but if a third guy comes along i cut all ties instantly and either dip or just fight the 1v1v1

[strong dawn]

facts so only solution is 0 tolerance because ppl will abuse it

[strong dawn]

its terrible, either team up or be teamed on exactly how DAD was for awhile. So im all for 0 tolerance teaming

lol

I mean thats cool but there are other ways to find ppl to play with there are literal team modes

its SOLO for a reason

[zealous wing]

That’s not the situation we’re talking about but I’m glad that happend, I’ve been that German guy to many people not even kidding, the early days were a lot different. But now we’ve come to a point we’re people are blurring the lines of the rules and justifying duoing a boss in solos that’s a lot different

[pure trout]

Did the dupers get banned finally?

[strong dawn]

See this is big facts. natural encounters can be fine but ppl will pretend it was a natural encounter to get an advantage

[zealous wing]

I’ll meet a new player and show him the ropes then 1v1 him for last portal , that seems fine lmao

[strong dawn]

I feel that but I mean its HR ppl want to compete fairly in HR but I see your point.

[mild rapids]

best class for hr??

[viscid lark]

the amount of naked people just full wkeying in this game will forever amaze me they dont even realise they are horrible

[twin edge]

well, not everyone have 2k + hours and people need to learn somehow

i think people are so used to fighting same people over and over again until the playerbase is so low you can organize D&D in real life

the learning curve with all the sweats who just play this game since Season 0 is insane

[deep helm]

probably fighter

[deep helm]

they were almost there but then this wipe happened and they r up a bit again

[viscid lark]

bro its like almost 2 months into wipe if your naked every raid and just wkeying thats why your poop go loot or something

[deep helm]

wdym when u say naked

NOOOOOOO steamcharts r down, i cant laugh at how pathetic of a playerbase this game has now

[twin edge]

i dont think gear would make a difference for them - most of the people who main this game are calculating all the stats already in their heads to the point where they think of 2 decimals after dot

LMAO

"oh shit man, i would win this fight if I had 0.43% PDR more"

[zealous wing]

Y’all are talking like there isn’t a pve or norms mode to learn in, you wanna jump into HR with the people who have 3 years more experience than you? That’s on you man

[viscid lark]

full squir gear just wkeying everyone thats the best way to stay broke if your not good at pvp

[slow oxide]

Gold dupe ruining the game
Time to hop on Midnight Walkers

[viscid lark]

full squir kits just fighting each other like they are going to benifit from it its so braindead

[deep helm]

god damn, it takes 1320 to get all my gold gear back from the merchant

[hasty creek]

bruh I keep getting only water map on squires to riches thats such bs

[twin edge]

I think S2R is fine but it's not really higlihted as recommended mode for new joiners and its only trios unfortunetly.

[deep helm]

Trunk Hose, Dark Padded, or Dark Leather what is better for a Str/Vig/ArmRating barb?

[zealous wing]

S2R is probably the best way to learn the game, you get a good idea of the limits of all the classes in squire, your forced to play as a trio which is the way the game is balanced, and you get to see all the mobs and maps. The only issue is it doesn’t reflect the current HR mode ( still has circle )

[twin edge]

gear score based matchmaking in norms, 10 S2R games required before going norms or HR. there are many things Ironmace could add - people just try this game, get shit on by ego boosting sweats (even in norms) and leave it.

i somehow managed to find myself relatively easily and can somewhat compete in HR after a month of consistent gameplay but i dont think other casual gamers will have that determination

[viscid lark]

just showed my boy how to play its his first pc game and hes already running full hr kits with grimsmiles and shit and hes only been on for maybe a month games not that hard to make money in

[zealous wing]

-a hardcore unforgiving fantasy FPS- … this gain isn’t for casuals unfortunately. Though they have added Many many things to cater to them already

[viscid lark]

💯

[clear atlas]

where is the broken stone bridge in gob caves?

[viscid lark]

https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/Inferno-02-N

[zealous wing]

Im a circle enjoyer tbh

[twin edge]

circle is the OG way

it was so fun when game just released

[clear atlas]

it says gob caves though? and that map doesnt show it in gob caves.

[twin edge]

looking blindly for portals 😄

[zinc fossil]

WHY THE FUCK are the easiest characters the fucking most buffed?

[viscid lark]

that has every map with all flores look on the left hand side of the website

[clear atlas]

its outdated though

[zealous wing]

Maybe but the rush of the old days fighting a guy for last portal while the circle slowly closes and your eyes start shutting at the last second of the interaction bar… man I don’t get that anymore

[viscid lark]

i just used it the other day and was fine maybe gob caves is outdated

[zealous wing]

The module will still look the same tho

[viscid lark]

its prob in hell because i didnt see it on the map

and they dont have hell on there yet

[clear atlas]

has to be, I forgot quests prob dont show layers xD

[zealous wing]

Ohh ya hell maybe it’s the one with the dwarf champ and that elevator

[viscid lark]

yeah cuz ive never heard of that module and i have like 3k hours lol i dont play alot of goblin cave hell tho '

[clear atlas]

same ive been playing before the game was a torrent file and it doesnt ring a bell xD

[viscid lark]

damn og

[deep helm]

get rid of all quests the have to do with the water map, i think id rather eat glass covered in bleach than do that map

[fringe garnet]

I don't mind the map itself, it's the exact quests that gets to me

I probably wouldn't like a Crypts quest that requires me to get something like 3 bellows and 3 awls either

oh wait

[deep helm]

its the quest items that suck the most, most of them are found in like 1 maybe 2 spots if that

the bellows and awls were ez mode

[lament scarab]

How do u fight barb guys 😔

[indigo valve]

Play ranger

[stone idol]

sorc not op guys just can camp spectral room basically on the roof...

[lament scarab]

they take iron will

[old flame]

Someone remove this stupid chicken (cockatrice) for gods sake.
How am i supposed to play PVP when some 20IQ bird with 50dmg per hit and 2k HP is following me all the time??

[golden forge]

what means while in a faustian bargained on a quest to deal player dmg?

[lament scarab]

Actual question. I havent played since 2 wipes ago i have like 500k gold in gold coin bags and pelts rn. Ik they are going to go down in price soon. What do i buy that holds value so i dont lose all my money when that happens

[deep helm]

what one of a marvelous chest

[earnest forge]

Desirable artifacts will hold value over gold

[lament scarab]

so no DBs no LADs no axes

[proud marten]

No patchnotes?

[jade cairn]

great to see that Aus is still just chinese teamers every game in high roller

[earnest forge]

DBs have been used as a trade currency for several wipes now, but yeah stink/shields/axes will be worth less than say pulv or bloodthirst. Chest is always a big ticket item as well

[zealous wing]

Barb is beat in melee with superior spacing/dodging, bait out his skills like rage ww or whatever else Then go In, hit your hits duck/ backpedal his and you can win, ranged is kite him for as long as possible before he gets to you and do the same thing

[long hornet]

So, Barb is beat by completely outplaying him, not getting hit at all, while drool runs from his mouth as he presses w and left click. Nerf that timmy class. Kite the 330ms barbs

[elder bolt]

NO patch

[stone idol]

just remove barb and fighter

make people actually learn to play the game rather then give them a w class

the problem still stands iron mace have no idea how to actually balance a game in the slightest

[edgy sable]

RELEASE THE MAP GENIE

[prisma horizon]

u got skill issue if i think "a w class" is a problem

[edgy sable]

Sorry guys even the Map Genie can't save the dupe scandal

[long hornet]

Exactly. They can’t balance melee. They make them insanely broken

[stone idol]

wow comes from the barb and fighter player

[edgy sable]

they keep trying to do realism and video game at the same time and can't make up their mind

[cyan seal]

need someone for wyvern and spectral kill

[edgy sable]

I HAVENT PLAYED THIS GAME IN A MONTH ILL DO SPECTRAL FOR FUN!

[cyan seal]

id

[edgy sable]

thats how good it is as a boss but the rest of the game.. hmm not so sure

[long hornet]

Full plate fighters being faster than full cloth low hp casters always. Barbs with iron will insane hp potion chugger and fast af. Like are you new 😂

[cyan seal]

rest leave to me

[stone idol]

its cause he plays a w class

[long hornet]

Obviously. Most Timmy’s do, they cope saying it’s not ez mode

[stone idol]

no point doing spectral you will just have a barb jump you with there bardiche

[edgy sable]

realism = fighter can actually move really fast in plate , of course a ranger would move faster but a ranger cannot move and shoot so it will just get ran down and die irl too

[stone idol]

eh not realy

[odd grove]

still need someone for wyvern?

[stone idol]

you are very slowed down in plate

[long hornet]

The whole point of plate is being slow but tanky…. The whole point of low armor cloth is being fast and agile…

[prisma horizon]

u joined the d&d discord 2 month ago wtf are u tryin to act like og

[edgy sable]

Right but plate is not necessarily 'slow' irl. Its exaggerated in movies

its definitly slower than cloth.. but its not turbo slow tank man

[stone idol]

the average person can not run in plate

[tight sun]

who tf cares, its a fuckin game

[earnest forge]

The irony of wanting people to have to "learn the game" while complaining about barbs holding W

[cyan seal]

need someone for wyvern and spectral kill

[long hornet]

I mean you have different levels of plate, and slow in game. The biggest armor in game that makes you the slowest, should never outrun cloth easily. That goes against all logic

[tight sun]

i can kill spectral

[stone idol]

sorry that even if i outskill i still get killed in 2 shots

[odd grove]

yes bro i said i can do wyvern

[viral oasis]

just parry bro

[edgy sable]

idk if i can link a video in here without getting banned

[long hornet]

Barb is the easiest class in the game by far. Anyone with half a brain cell, can win 1v1s vs any class

Having high hp, armor, move speed, and damage is always a bad recipe for games fighters and barbs do it all while other classes sacrifice

[edgy sable]

yea its funny how high hp barb starts

[stone idol]

lets see your clips of 3v1ing then yeahj?

[earnest forge]

Anyone with half a brain cell doesn't stand there and let a bardiche smack them. That's what I'm saying

[viral oasis]

yea np just demonlock exploitation strike then parry strike with halberd

[edgy sable]

bard, aimbot, survival bow, 1v3 ez mode!

[stone idol]

ya know honestly i forgot the best pvpers on dark and darker sit in this discord clearly

[long hornet]

Well obviously. But you can’t run from them or outspace them. You can’t get a cast off from the ridiculous cast slows but melee recovery is much faster now. Can’t knock them back. Lot of spells are skillshots. High mdr, high hp, it’s the safest class in the game

[viral oasis]

it happpens ur learning pookie

[edgy sable]

honestly after ive got bored of the game and stopped playing its kinda like, the only reason yall can feel good is because i am retired ya know?

its like how michael jordan stopped playing and people could pretend they were good again

[stone idol]

but no your not alloed to use halberd

you said you can beat bardiche with parry

so no halberd or bardiche or long sword

[earnest forge]

Bardiche is like -50 movespeed, you can certainly space them and can also run from them

Timmies that read "barb is ez mode" get dumpstered all the time by trying to walk on people

[viral oasis]

oh ill parry with a kris dagger then get my life steal faster with shadow touch

[earnest forge]

Plate lock with magic staff farms barbs

[edgy sable]

its like we're rp'ing a fight textually.
and then i third party as a rogue, ruptue hand cross bow shot!

[stone idol]

do it then

[ashen willow]

we really had to buff longsword wasnt broken as fuck nope just had to buff it

[stone idol]

go clip it rn and then send me the clip ty till then honestly pipe down

[viral oasis]

literally did to steal a spectral knight loot chest

[grand beacon]

wait are they fr trying to tell us the economy is fine? prices have doubled in the last day on regular items

[long hornet]

Francisca slow, Achilles, lantern for ms, rage, closed doors, mobs I can give you a million reasons. Melee weapons swing way faster now as well. Running forever is going no damage, and they’re always faster anyway. Barb is as easy at it gets. every blue moon I’ll get on it and just destroy lobbies. It’s so boring

[edgy sable]

THESE ARE NOT THE DROIDS YOURE LOOKING FOR ~

[edgy sable]

They are sellin you wolf tickets!

[stone idol]

waitinng on the clip

[grand beacon]

lmao

oh i didnt see the annoucements post lol, ig they are just taking their time

[viral oasis]

let me hop in the time machine lil bro

[stone idol]

i also 10v1ed on rogue ya know easy af made atleast 200k

[indigo valve]

Longbow + kiting and u win every match on ranger

Balanced class

[stone idol]

like anyone can say whatever they want if you aint got anything to back it then it dont mean nothing

[viral oasis]

cool

[viral oasis]

i got da spectral fabric as proof bb

if ur not content that's no way my problem

[long hornet]

If you don’t know how to dodge arrows that’s a skill issue 😂 I’d rather face a ranger than a barb anyday

[stone idol]

all that says is you ratted a kill

[indigo valve]

Yea cs dodging arrows is 100% skill

Get hit by one longbow arrow and ur down 1/4 health at least

[viral oasis]

so i killed em....

sounds like a w in my book

[long hornet]

Their’s a reason Barb is at the top of arenas, 90% of classes in solos with fighter, in most duo and trio comp. You see way less rangers

[stone idol]

a rogue can get a kill

just sit in a corner

[viral oasis]

didnt say they couldnt

[indigo valve]

Idk in east I always see rangers in duo and trios

[long hornet]

Some teams, yes. Every team no

[indigo valve]

I’m jus waiting for ranger and barb to be removed

[feral karma]

Ranger is getting a rework, and is probably getting stronger.

[indigo valve]

Oh yes the vision

Nice

[cyan karma]

nah ranger is ok but barb gotta get negative innate phys and magic res imo

so we wont see 50% res barb with 170 hp and potion chugger

[feral karma]

Ranger isn't okay. lol

Ranger smashes people.

[real skiff]

Is cockatrice merchant bricked for anyone else?

[indigo valve]

Do u main ranger

[subtle birch]

My cockatrice is bricked for sure 😉

[long hornet]

I still don’t get, why disarm got destroyed after 2 weeks but yet silences are in the game and much worse. Silence has no notification sound until it goes off, completely shuts off you class and is instant death, and is used from range. Disarm way easier to deal with than silence

[cyan karma]

i dont

[cyan karma]

sdf decided to play this wipe as a ranger

[long hornet]

Aren’t we suppose to have a patch today? Feel like I get a notification by now

[stone idol]

yeah patch is removing barb

[deep helm]

disarm was nerfed for a week then buffed again. I think sdf been dual playing ranger and fighter again

[subtle heart]

Lava map needs to last longer

[deep helm]

doesnt it last the same as the rest of the maps

[tight sun]

if you wait for someone to kill boss just to kill them youre a rat and i hope you get hit by a bus

[golden forge]

yessir

[tight sun]

bro i just killed spectral as a milk lizard naked and a fuckin warlock came in and had to ruin my fun and guess what he didnt even take my heals bro

no loot nothing he just wanted to kill me becaue like people wonder why the game is dying and honestly its the player base no the game

people are trying to cope saying omg the game is dying because sdf but no bro the game is dying because of the toxic ass community who thinks its there whole life to run fully kitted in norms and kill everyone on site like cmonc

[quasi juniper]

why does mob agro suck so much, this guy hit the yeti 5 times then it attacks me instead of him

[indigo valve]

They’ll release the patch at 2am and they’ll tell us 30 mins b4

[golden forge]

yeti has closes aggro im pretty sure

[indigo valve]

That’s how they’ve been doing it these last few patches for sum reason

[quasi juniper]

Thanks big dawg

[long hornet]

? They always release it Thursday. Normally early morning occasionally mid day

[cursive cedar]

I think the fairest way to handle the duping is to first of all fix the bug naturally and then follow up with bans on the biggest abusers like they did with the ammo buying/selling and then just let the market even out over the rest of the season, a multiple day rollback will just make people quit the game since they see their progress can be reverted out of their control

[quasi juniper]

if they reset my progress these past few days I get my 3 BIS kits back, but lose 40k gold

[graceful tartan]

What's this vulnerability they've mentioned in #📢announcements ? Is the game safe to play?

[deep helm]

normally 1-2pm so still another hour or 2

[tiny forum]

Yeah if you don’t mind running into people with full bis because they have unlimited gold

[mental latch]

[cyan seal]

need someone for spectral kill

in adv

id is LegendryHealer

[rustic pecan]

no wonder names are being ran crazy just died to two bis names kits like wtf. dupe glitch always ruining the fun

[tight sun]

and jesus does everyone run aroun with voip off like fucking christ

[graceful tartan]

ah thought they fixed that issue at the start of the season.

[indigo valve]

Wha time is it for u

[quasi juniper]

people just call you slurs they dont talk so theres no point really

[rustic pecan]

rollback and punishments need to be rolled out

[cyan seal]

need someone for spectral kill
in adv
id is LegendryHealer

need someone for spectral kill
in adventures
id is LegendryHealer

[rustic pecan]

stop spamming just go into pve with a purp full armor fighter kit its so easy ^

[zealous wing]

Sry if you already explained it I’m at work, but I’m curious what you think you should do to beat a barb?

[cyan seal]

well if it was i wont be asking for help will i

[weary terrace]

player not found

[indigo valve]

😭

[cunning sleet]

for one artifact

[tight sun]

go to gathering hall english 1

[golden forge]

aint no barb getting easy treatment from me

[hollow quail]

wheres the patch?

[weary magnet]

What patch are you expecting

[hollow quail]

people really like to play dumb in here

[earnest forge]

Probably on hold due to the team having to investigate gold duping neck beards instead of the work they planned on doing

[hushed haven]

What maps do you guys use? I wanna mine copper ore but idk what resource to use to find nodes

[hushed haven]

wha? huh?

[hollow quail]

literally patch day and these mfs cant fix the bug ruining the game

[hushed haven]

what patch?

its patch day?

[clever locust]

gold dupe plaguing the game for several days

ark and arker

[mental latch]

[hushed haven]

[hushed haven]

sooooooooo what are you talking about?

[rigid gull]

when is wipe? and is it gonna be a new season or just like a mid season patch?

[hushed haven]

hello?

[vast pier]

gold glitch

[hollow quail]

its on reddit im not getting banned

[rigid gull]

im sure they gonna ban them no?

[dusty vapor]

That ark dupe was so bad and downplayed, literally ruined the game

Indefinitely for me

People still don’t know how bad it was

[hushed haven]

Okay is that why youre still typing in here

[dusty vapor]

Read before you type monkey

[hollow quail]

but there are people who should be getting banned instead we get this orange man ass message saying their investigating? how do they not know what the problem is and atleast roll out a hot patch

my 10 year old cousin could fix this bug but banning them might take some investigating sure

[dusty vapor]

I mean personally I can’t imagine knowing about this shit for a whole week and letting it snowball and still not addressing it

[hollow quail]

but why are we still allowing the bugging to happen when we know what the problem is

[dusty vapor]

There must be some giant hurdles they need to jump to fix it

[vast pier]

allows for more people to do it, just weeding out the bug abusers prob

[dusty vapor]

Every minute is more damage

[hollow quail]

meanwhile fucking the economy for everyone else

[vast pier]

as if they care lol

[dusty vapor]

Every minute you let legit players play it frauds them of their time if you rollback

If they were gonna rb they would have done it yesterday

Unfortunately as a rollback fan myself

[vast pier]

its a win win for them less players is better they love losing player count

[hollow quail]

it wouldnt take much to oursmart these devs that gold prob washed and in the eco already and these mfs saying theyre investigating

[warm ingot]

Would be nice for them to confirm that if thats true

[dusty vapor]

That should have been their first announcement

Player time >> anything else

[hollow quail]

3 days ago

[clever locust]

Nah man they were just breeding meks trust

[slim delta]

how can they say "At this point it is still too early to determine whether any actual impact occurred", thats about the dumbest thing i've read yet

[hollow quail]

im convinced theyre involved

[slim delta]

yeah they do some RMT on the side? i could see that

[still wyvern]

dumbest thing is their investigation
My account is blocked because of "investigation" when i never played duos, trios, only solo and i heard this bug is possible only in trios, its a joke

and i need to wait 3 days for unblock

[golden viper]

Me too, This happend way to often already. Also why would you wait for so Long and Not do sth about it

[solemn pasture]

How much can a spectersl coinbag store

[earnest forge]

5K

[solemn pasture]

Alr thanks

[lilac cloud]

lol, if they wanted to rmt why would they make a bug in the game for it instead of just duping gold on their own given they control database etc. Dumbest thing ive ever heard

[mental latch]

WIPE WIPE WIPE HYPE!

[agile tide]

Simple answer is they haven’t figured out how to punish exploiters without rolling back and screwing over random ppl too

Tracking etc

[lilac cloud]

yea seems pretty much impossible to deal with given gold is already in economy and non exploiters who did nothing wrong may have sold things and received that gold

just ban and move on i think

[slim delta]

have you ever heard of plausible deniability?

[lilac cloud]

lol, there would still be logs whether they used a "bug" or just duped it themselves. Dumbest shit ever

[slim delta]

no the dumbest shit ever is to allow it to continue but sure bud

[lilac cloud]

also way easier to hide if they just did it themselves

[lilac cloud]

dont disagree that it's dumb to not patch it (assuming they havent, idk). But it is definitely dumber to think they are RMTing gold in their own game using a bug

[slim delta]

there are industry examples of that happening, its not unheard of bud

[lilac cloud]

please link any example of a game company using a bug to rmt

[edgy sable]

Lemme just feed that sentence in ai for a second

[slim delta]

you want a news article? its a known issue that has happened, you can believe it or not, i really dont care

[edgy sable]

Crazy fact, you'll never guess what company IM employees came from. (Unrelated of course)

[lilac cloud]

can't link example cause it doesn't exist. The thing rust just linked is not rmting with a bug in their own game rofl. Im not denying a company might rmt, they just wouldnt used a convoluted bug, they would do it themselves -- its the dumbest shit ever

[edgy sable]

Well you are correct my example is not technically a bug, so you got me

It might have seemed bugged to the players in which Im sure they said it wasn't actually.. idk thats pretty speculative

[lilac cloud]

well yea thats all i was saying, the people saying they are "allowing it to say open so they can rmt themselves" is just dumb. Its hurting their own economy and themselves. If they wanted to do it, they wouldnt use a bug accessible to everyone

[slim delta]

honestly every time i try to make a point the auto mod deletes my message so i cant really expand on the thought properly, just know you should use your brain and think outside the box

[edgy sable]

I mean also they control the game, they could just spawn money int osome characters inventory they dont need to invent a bug

[lilac cloud]

right, thats what im arguing with Yeff about who keeps saying "THERES EXAMPLES BUD"

[slim delta]

just google it dude

you act like its completely outside the realm of possiblity and thats wild honestly

[edgy sable]

alright damn filter

[slim delta]

yeah the auto mod is pretty dumb, im not even saying anything crazy

[lilac cloud]

logically it makes zero sense man. The only thing that could make sense is some lower level employee doing it themselves to make money. Actual management using a bug in their own game to rmt just does make sense. They would just do it in a non accessible way

[edgy sable]

i tried to reply and idk what word was banned in what i said lol

[deep helm]

where can i go to get help beating Lich and Warlord?

[edgy sable]

isnt that why feseb got fired btw

[golden forge]

where tf u get broken glasses?

[slim delta]

gege you're so short sighted its embarrassing

[lilac cloud]

you still have not explained to me what im missing

[clever locust]

feseb

[gray lark]

The imps that buff mobs in inferno

[edgy sable]

ty my apologies naming wrong guy

[golden forge]

so forgotten castle > inferno > imps only?

[warm tendon]

For those that care. 20 Spectral Knight kills:

• Old Rusty Key 12
• Spectral Hilt 4

[slim delta]

im trying to but the automod is making it hard, just imagine you're part of this company and you let your IRL friends use a bug to RMT

[edgy sable]

zero cloth

[gray lark]

Yeah

[warm tendon]

Haha yes please rub it in;)

[edgy sable]

brutal

[lilac cloud]

Right, that's what I meant by a lower level employee. Ironmace themselves doing it doesn't make sense. It damages them

[slim delta]

even lower level employees are infact IM

[clever locust]

Are you ragebaiting? A lower level employee is still ironmace

[warm tendon]

Found it pretty chill, less contested than Troll, also much easier to PvP there than at say Troll or Wyvern.

[ember sorrel]

is the game ruined yet? the gold exploits that where allowed to happen made everything way to expensive?

[edgy sable]

It is contained and they are on top of it

[golden forge]

wyvern is so easy tho?

[edgy sable]

(Hows my application for mod coming along guys?)

[slim delta]

dont worry tho, they said, "At this point it is still too early to determine whether any actual impact occurred"

so trust that they are ON IT

[warm tendon]

Yes but its more contested I feel like, also PvP is pretty challenging while keeping the fight going.

[edgy sable]

Yea DW they have been aware of it for several days and the videos are greatly exaggerating the situation

[slim delta]

literally just load the game and go look at the price of anything on the market, the dmg is very very clear

[edgy sable]

I havent played in like a month but I am gonna do that lol

[golden forge]

i mean idk on highroll but on normals wyvern is empty

• u just melt her for like 2-3 mins usaully

[subtle heart]

I just pulled a gold coin bag in pve that’s pretty good

[broken cove]

A troll pelt is like 3x a gold coin bag rn

[acoustic cipher]

stuff prices in marketplace is so cooked 😭

[golden forge]

and there is lkike 100 ppl on troll every game xDDD

[subtle heart]

Fr

[golden forge]

if u havent seen try to run pve on gc

its so funny XDDDD

[subtle heart]

And 99 of them don’t know cave troll

[slim delta]

yeah killing the troll has never been more popular

[elder kindle]

does someone want to buy a bis bonk wiz kit off me???

[broken cove]

Sell your fabrics and buy stuff that hasn't inflated

[subtle heart]

Fr

[gray lark]

I sold 6 spec bags at 100k last night gonna keep the gold in the market until prices fix themselves

[subtle heart]

This is lowkey good for cave troll killers

[slim delta]

nah, people are super toxic at the troll, they jump in and out of the door trying to get you killed, its super toxic right now

[warm tendon]

Troll is complete chaos at the moment

[golden forge]

true

[warm tendon]

I switched to Spectral Knight, it's lets crowded

[golden forge]

how much is fabric?

[slim delta]

same price or more

[neon lake]

So what exactly are people duping? Gold?? Should I sell it all off now before it tanks lol

[subtle heart]

There’s no way! That’s worth 25000 now!

I don’t have the space to store the sale holy shit

[real elbow]

its kinda funnn idkk

[balmy ledge]

honeybliss pears are the new store of value for trade. Stock up now before they start averaging 20k+

[vast pier]

seriously?

i have 2 mil ready to go from duping gold!

😭

[balmy ledge]

No telling if they'll keep increasing for sure. They have minimum value of 5k and have been slowly increasing on trade (averaging 8k recently).

Kind of rides on of people jumping on board with starting to use those instead of DBs as like a base currency for the higher end trades.

[slate hound]

is any1s queue bugged? no games starting for me

[warm tendon]

Try restarting your game

[stiff sedge]

xd I went in to check the pears are currently27/27.5/30/100k xD

[noble phoenix]

if someone would sell me a cheap db so i can finally have my first artifact ever, that would be nice.

[edgy sable]

dropping dupes on em 💩 💩

[raven raven]

my game is crashing when i enter q anyone else?

[edgy sable]

nope youre the onlye one entering queue right now

[spark tiger]

Is arena ssf?

[stiff sedge]

For you my friend - cheap db - only take gold - 3M will do.

[noble phoenix]

inflation is really bad this season huh

[harsh delta]

do you think arena will allow higher quality gear later this wipe?

[keen mauve]

No

[edgy sable]

10million dollar kit in this economy
🙁

[whole robin]

I'm looking for a girlfriend with nice feet

[earnest forge]

That's in the druid channel

[harsh delta]

why?

[left solar]

yo any1 tryna hook your boi up with a lil sum ik some of your phuckers are filthy rich XD

[lilac ether]

But youre not the boi of any one of the filthy rich... they didnt get rich off of philanthropy

[pallid hemlock]

they havent typically done that before

[earnest forge]

There was the one season end where they allowed artifacts for the last bit.

And that other time where they changed it from legendary cap to epic cap midway through the season

[compact urchin]

I wish this game had a simple fucking message 'are you sure u wanna go as a solo into duos'

doesnt take much

[pallid hemlock]

they might do end of season event. legendary to epic change was likely them deciding epic will be the normal cap

[edgy sable]

i think they doing an end of season event right now called letting a dupe run rampant on the market

[brittle barn]

Can any1 explain the balancing logic behind bardiche having higher base damage than double axe..? Swings about the same speed, but bardiche has 3x the range, better animation, and a couple more wep damage

I feel like bardiche dmg needs a severe nerf and should be an in between of Zweihander and Double Axe where double axe is the high damage axe weapon, and bardiche is the higher range, lower damage version

[slim delta]

you've come to the wrong place for balance logic my friend

[primal ether]

anyone can explain why i as a cleric couldnt open a portal in high roller, same for another dude who was also cleric

[brittle barn]

Yeah these devs have a tendency to pay favoritism to one weapon or another. Halberd and bardiche are clearly SDFs favorites lol

[molten parcel]

anyone down to do warlord with me for quest real quick? i can go cleric with spells and holy puri if u want

[brittle barn]

Yeah sure gimme a sec

[fleet fox]

cuz

[subtle heart]

The devs are brainde@d that’s the explanation

[safe niche]

whats up with the "📢 Investigation Update" ??

[pallid hemlock]

same logic as having magic crow damage instead of fall damage. Ol Squirelly has a few loose screws!

[edgy sable]

What if the devs aren’t fixing the gold dupe because it’s actually a live economics lesson?

Like imagine the patch notes just say:

“Working as intended.”

Every day another billion gold enters the economy, rare items cost 10x what they used to, and the devs are just leaning back in their chairs like professors.

“Observe, class. When currency is created from nothing and not backed by anything — markets inflate, prices explode, and everyone holding savings gets quietly wrecked.”

Meanwhile the players are screaming:

“FIX THE BUG!!”

And the devs are just like:

“No no… this is modern monetary theory. Please continue the experiment.” 💰📈

[pallid hemlock]

whyd you phrase this like a question? you hit the nail on the head

[crystal dagger]

W thought

[edgy sable]

I leave that up to the devs and everyone here! Appreciate the approval.

[subtle heart]

The devs are slow so they need time to process such complicated things

[safe niche]

what's the thing lol is there a gold dupe or what

[subtle heart]

Yeah I’m not sure if you’re allowed to say it

Well yeah of course you can say it because the devs say it’s not real

People are going into the dungeon with chests and giving them to their friends and they get duplicated

Not sure if there’s more nuance to it

[plain marlin]

if this was your game, and you had something crazy happen wouldnt you sit back with your popcorn and observe it for a while?

[safe niche]

that's cool, explains the inflation

[pallid hemlock]

aaannnnnnd wilder is smiting you. gg

[subtle heart]

Gg then

[edgy sable]

Wrong kinda crazy thing to be happening so no 😛

[subtle heart]

Its all misinformation and contained tho

The gold is contained guys don’t worry

Just because they can duplicate gold doesn’t mean they can use it in market

[edgy sable]

Yea just don't try to buy anything

Don't look at the cost of anything and you won't notice a problem lol

[subtle heart]

I mean I sold a gold coin pouch for 25k so I’m pretty happy

[pallid hemlock]

[edgy sable]

and now you can buy one decent helm for that 25 :kappa

[plain marlin]

ok you look at this game, its jank, its hard, its crazy, now its entered the sacred holy ground of the marketplace, why not let the marketplace be crazy too hmm

[subtle heart]

I don’t wear biss anyways

[pallid hemlock]

wait youre actually cooking

[astral crow]

just chalk it, end the season release workshop, ban everyone, game saved

[dire mason]

what do i do if i dont have stash space for gold and have a ton of bags and stuff is there a good investment?

[subtle heart]

Yeah there’s no gold limit in real dungeons so there shouldn’t be one in game either, make it as close to real life dungeons full of goblins as possible

[warm tendon]

Update on Specrtal kills: 23

• Old Rusty Key 14
• Spectral Hilt 4
• Spectral Fabric 1

[subtle heart]

Mode?

[gusty birch]

Why the ..... my options were restored? I play at bare minimum + little lower than that thus config (but nothing restricted) but now all set to ULTRA CARL 😆 for what HOLY CHRIST CARL im gonna stutter like crazy

[warm tendon]

Normal, rare

[queen canopy]

i get old rusty key from garbage chests and mobs

[compact urchin]

on normal?

[queen canopy]

lol yeah, squires, and even on pve

[plain marlin]

i mean i still think the reason for the prices is when they adjusted the risk and reward and pelts started dropping less frequent

[compact urchin]

wow ok ty

[queen canopy]

i'm just such a noob idk what to do with the key you get from maelstrom or the ice map

[subtle heart]

You’re just lucky

[queen canopy]

you say that, until i go play HR maelstrom and don't get a single blue

[gusty birch]

omg its also restarted my perfectly setted sensivity ?????!?!?

[queen canopy]

my luck is cursed

[pallid hemlock]

W game

[subtle heart]

That’s just The LORD SDF balances it out

[queen canopy]

i make more money grinding pve than HR, that's how great my luck is.

[queen canopy]

i guess lol

[gusty birch]

i work weeks to be able fight with little dodge moments cause i just cant aim at high sensivity values... and now were back in config... omg (

[subtle heart]

Yeah I hate when that happens

[queen canopy]

this game is actually peak though, when you work all day and only get on at like hours where nobody is on but a few overseas players. You can go into a pve dungeon and 90% of the rooms aren't already cleared and looted.

I see people complaining about how they don't want to lose players, when i find other people complainig mostly about the players and not the game.

[mild nimbus]

Does War Cry count as a Shout for Treacherous Lungs on Barb?

[plain marlin]

the first half of the season i kept wondering why everybody was yelling at me with accents, then i realized i was playing in europe by accident

[echo lake]

does cleric "kindness" perk which heals himself for 30% of the heal decrease the heal for the ally?

[gusty birch]

dont they mean in announce something like "mipmaplodBiad" tweak? At the end of last season, performance was much worse and I had to play with this option (but it obviously gives an advantage starting from certain values, since rooms filled with bushes become much easier to navigate)

Throwing knife sticked out in the back is the perfect combo with cristal sword

[winged pewter]

I've DC'ed like 12 times in the last hour wtf, internet is perfectly fine

[winged pewter]

no

[compact urchin]

in the ruins, on normals, the deeper i go the better the loot?

[earnest forge]

Yes

[compact urchin]

thank you

[clear jasper]

Yes

[ripe briar]

does all ur gear come back in adventure mode?

[subtle heart]

Yes

[subtle heart]

You have to buy it form the goblin merchant after the dungeon closes all levels

[ripe briar]

ok ty i will go kill the boss with gear

[signal pawn]

how much action speed does 3 dex give on a item?

or like what % does 1 dex add

cus i might switch action speed to 3 dex rolls

[eternal jacinth]

About 1%

[vapid oyster]

it scales

[signal pawn]

it scales?

should i have some action speed roles and some dex rolls?

[vapid oyster]

I don't think the wiki is really up to date, but https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Stats#Action_Speed_from_Dexterity

you get diminishing returns basically

[pure trout]

how many spectral bags are 1 chest?

on like trade

[gusty birch]

how many coca cola 1 skittles

in like iraq

[pure trout]

Your so funny man you should think about talking less so people can be spared from the pain of reading what you write

[gusty birch]

I'll answer with a Bugs Bunny phrase , "Oooh, I'm dyin'!" . Leave your anger for your food

[pure trout]

😛

[steady aspen]

so which weapon does the most parry damage?

[pure trout]

longsword

[fair lance]

halberd is pretty good too

[waxen karma]

No update this week?

[floral pendant]

Other than last week the update happens when arena releases so prob 6:00 today

[waxen karma]

Thanks

[tight cedar]

what do i need to use to shorten the Dreamwalk on druid cooldown

[earnest forge]

Debuff duration bonus and will

[tight cedar]

aight thanks

[robust otter]

Why does barb have to be the best class while also being the most user friendly.

[gritty sorrel]

Barb isnt the best rn though?

[maiden prism]

how can I get these poison arrows?

[gritty sorrel]

Wait barb not bard mb im dumb

[edgy sable]

Been spending most my life livin in a dupers paradise 🎵

[pallid hemlock]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣