game-discussion

[placid bluff]

PLEASE TAKE WATER MAP OUT OF S2R.....

[pallid hemlock]

making chests unable to go in raid but still exist in raid as drops and be extracted with is an extremely difficult task for them, probably as difficult as whatever solution they actually are working on, with how they've set up the game code. their technical debt is stacked to the moon

[subtle heart]

At this point just make chests craftable then

Lie with really rare shit

[worn ether]

chest guy left

[pallid hemlock]

^

[subtle heart]

So you can remove them from dungeons

[pallid hemlock]

5% of player committing instant seppukku hurt their ego so they doubled down

[fickle marlin]

You wont collect anywhere near that much gold in a Raid, especially prior to a pull. It will be almost entirely inconsequential. That's a fix they could work on down the line after an initial one, to help the economy by less than 1% of a difference.

[warm kraken]

what

[pallid hemlock]

i think itd fix the dupe glitch tho

[spark bear]

devs here me take restore long sword and take this repost out of the game some weapons wernt ment to repost im tired of being 1 shot to bs

[pallid hemlock]

nobody is bringing chests in raid for legitamate reasons, and theres very problematic illegitamate reasons to at the moment

[fickle marlin]

The word is the gold is being duplicated, not the chests.

[pallid hemlock]

sorry, tip of rapier IS supposed to stop your felling axe, actually. along with daggers

[agile grove]

Can dupe 150k+ gold in 4mins

[vernal igloo]

There was a gold dupe ?

[agile grove]

But it dosnt effect market guys 🤣

[cunning sleet]

interesting

[fickle marlin]

Why would it? It won't aFfEcT yOuR aVeRaGe PlAyEr...

[spark bear]

thats what im saying like i swing a fing warmaul and get repost by a gd stick

l change

[low tendon]

if i sell something on the market and try to claim the gold without room for it what happens

[indigo valve]

u cant claim it

[agile grove]

Won't let you claim gold

[low tendon]

ok

[vernal igloo]

it deletes the excess gold

they're trolling u, don't listen to them

[spark bear]

dont troll him he asked a genuine question

[pallid hemlock]

it sends the gold to SDF's account, he has a special unlimited space chest

[fickle marlin]

Goes to your local charity

[vernal igloo]

my fault atombomb09 account created in 2025 to avoid a ban

[spark bear]

wow this the community dark and darker has become just abunch of chuds putting in a 50 plus hr work week in on a game

[vernal igloo]

projection

[pallid hemlock]

Toxic, Passionate, Amazing, Caring, or Lovely, whatever words you choose to describe, the community was cultivated by developer decisions, Ironmace and SDF should never be stripped of that credit 😁 ❤️ 😊 ☺️ 🥰

[vernal igloo]

• jestermaxxing

[spark bear]

correct your projection

[vernal igloo]

*you're 😎

[spark bear]

ok google

[pallid hemlock]

😎

[subtle heart]

I just realized high roller says teaming is bannable but not norms

[pallid hemlock]

yuppp boof and goofer for ya

[spark bear]

yeah this games rules are so wishy washy and backward it makes the game bad

[vernal igloo]

i'll eat a sardine to that

[vernal igloo]

no one asked u

ur a ban evading acc

[spark bear]

w rage bate go to bed or sum

[vernal igloo]

prob for child safety

[pallid hemlock]

bro said bate like hes a master

[vernal igloo]

and he got quiet

bro is a ped 💀

[nocturne urchin]

so is the dupe fixed yet or nah

[vernal igloo]

no

[nocturne urchin]

hurry up and ban the cheaters and do the mid season wipe

[pallid hemlock]

getting fixed on monday prob

[spark bear]

one its called a pred and also wtf are you even on abt like did you just learn what that ment or sum like come off it

[nocturne urchin]

we need to wipe all stash but keep quest progress

hurry

or this season is over

[fickle marlin]

No teaming in an extraction game with heavy stat checks and high stakes is kinda fair tbh. Would be pretty boring to have a nasty kit and not be able to run it because "oh I'll get 3v1'd, may as well sell it and buy 20 normal kits or liquidate the gold.. assuming anyone will buy it.."

[pallid hemlock]

but teaming allowed in norms

[nocturne urchin]

as soon as the 45 year old dad gamers get on and see the price of stuff they are gonna quit instantly

we need a wipe

[fickle marlin]

norms has no stakes

[spark bear]

pvp dungeon exp you should be able to do what you want they only made that for streamers not to get teamed on

[pallid hemlock]

blues cost more than purples

[vernal igloo]

blockled for being a ped

[nocturne urchin]

purples with gems cost way more than blues with gems

[fickle marlin]

That's also a valid reason. Streaming would be ass lol you'd have to take handouts.

[vernal igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-war-helmet-shark-meme-gif-8983249853261281087

awww

embed

[spark bear]

look who stoped talking gn dih head

[compact urchin]

if this keeps going lockpicks are gonna be 1k soon

[fickle marlin]

What did I miss? I didnt see him say anything incriminating.

[vernal igloo]

he's on a burner account cause his last acc got banned for child safety

[signal pawn]

define chud

[spark bear]

he was trolling a new player when he was asking questions then he called me a child pred and got burnt for it

[vernal igloo]

w name

[signal pawn]

thanks cutie ❤️

[spark bear]

def of chud ITHEMURDERER

[fickle marlin]

Sure right now they do. Gotta also remember 50-70%+ of people are running norms in squire gear. Meta is also a little different in that bracket which is an incentive. Less rats and hackers too.

[vernal igloo]

💜 😽

[signal pawn]

you dont even know the origin of chud lmfao

[fickle marlin]

That's a huge accusation why say that with no grounds lol

[vernal igloo]

he's on a burner acc

his previous acc was banned

[spark bear]

ik right total chud energy

[vernal igloo]

they only ban for accs for child safety or being in a raiding group

[fickle marlin]

For something related to what you called him, or?

[spark bear]

i was banned for suposed team kill in areana he walked into my fireball

[subtle heart]

I blocked them, clearly a crazy person or just weird

[fickle marlin]

My friend got banned from this server for saying "guys all of a sudden I can see through walls why is that?" joking he was hacking. He messaged a mod and they told him to go through the appeal process.

[vernal igloo]

i'm not explaining this @signal pawn explain how to find the hypotonuse to them please

[fickle marlin]

So, no, they ban for random shit lmao

[spark bear]

thats not true but you would know the rules on baned account huh pred energy???

[vernal igloo]

bro

[pallid hemlock]

W

[vernal igloo]

DISCORD ACCOUNT BAN

ur so SLOWWW

🤤

^ this u

🛰️

5g rays ruining our brain cells

[fickle marlin]

The fact you following him that closely is crazy. Also I bet there's plenty of other reasons for bans like threatening someone's life. Chill out with the ego.

[vernal igloo]

blocked for rage baiting

Next

[spark bear]

on god like go do sum else

[vernal igloo]

europeans are the dumbest country people ever

[spark bear]

im not european dum ahh

[fickle marlin]

Lil bro has some serious mental health issues lol

[signal pawn]

im trying to reply but it just doesnt let me lmfao keeps removing my message

[fickle marlin]

Have a good night boys hope Paul revives the game

[vernal igloo]

damn

guess ur high on potonuse

[signal pawn]

discord will only delete ur account if ur in a discord server with racist stuff or for child safety

[fickle marlin]

Very common here. Despite 0 wrong things written. Some stuff would surprise you like basic words IM just doesnt like. Is what it is lol

[signal pawn]

extremely racist stuff

[vernal igloo]

they don'

don't ban for racism anymore

[signal pawn]

they do

my other account got deleted for saying the hard r in a discord server

[vernal igloo]

@buoyant nacelle is this true ?

[vernal igloo]

thank u for admitting it <3

i stand corrected

[signal pawn]

yeah

[vernal igloo]

yall wanna rat trios ?

i got a duo

[signal pawn]

so either he said the hard r or for child safety

[vernal igloo]

we getting hella bis

[fickle marlin]

In reality almost no black people give a shi about that, but we know the kinds of people who likely work at discord. Plus they need to keep a good public image so

[vernal igloo]

he's too sensitive to say the hard r

[signal pawn]

thats what im thinking

100% child safety

[empty kraken]

Okay. I am very displeased with the automatic closing of reds and blues. I prefered it the old way.

[vernal igloo]

exactly

bro is a ped

[vernal igloo]

old way was the same thing

how old we talking ?

[jovial bluff]

Does luck effect the chance to get troll pelt?

[vernal igloo]

13 ?

14 ?

or 18 ?

[fickle marlin]

Red only takes a few seconds to open anyways. Change feels less impactful than intended

[signal pawn]

im down

[vernal igloo]

@spark bear likes them at 13

[empty kraken]

The way it didn't close at all. I do not like this change.

[vernal igloo]

me neither

i agree with u

<3

[signal pawn]

same

[vernal igloo]

no homiesexual stuff

[vernal igloo]

convincing my duo

to do it

he's being

belligerant

[jovial bluff]

Does luck effect the chance to get troll pelt?

[signal pawn]

im not the best at this game just a heads up lmfao

[vernal igloo]

luck is basically uselss

[jovial bluff]

Playing bard btw

[vernal igloo]

at 400 luck, u 4x artifact chances

meaning u got from .3% pull from the pile

to 1.2%

[spark bear]

i just wanted to let you know that every message you have sent like this or of this context has been reported have a nice evening

[signal pawn]

thats really good actually

luck is kinda bis now

if thats true

[jovial bluff]

I might as well run it though right?

[vernal igloo]

that;s ONLY at artifact level though

[signal pawn]

dont grind troll pelts grind artifacts

[vernal igloo]

everything esle is like 3x for legendary

2x for epic

[jovial bluff]

I’m too ass for that

[vernal igloo]

and lowers rates for blue and less

[signal pawn]

just hit piles

[spark bear]

got nothing to say now huh??

[jovial bluff]

I always get jumped

🥺

[vernal igloo]

@signal pawn u wanna add me and vc ?

or

[signal pawn]

go on dead servers or something

[vernal igloo]

join a trio party channel ?

[signal pawn]

yeah

[vernal igloo]

saou pao

[vernal igloo]

-)-

=_=

which one....

[signal pawn]

sent a request

i feel like oceania and west are pretty dead

i dont really do that tho

i like myself some pvp

[ionic widget]

yo IRONMACE fix the teaming problem in norms solos

the shit is fkn terrible

[lofty hazel]

which key room gold piles drop artifacts?

[vernal igloo]

guys

[main garden]

guys does doing squire quests give better squire gear?

[vernal igloo]

atombomb is confirmed

to be a child hazard

do NOT let that guy near ANYONE bro

the things he said in call

i clipped it

[stone oak]

no, affinity with the merchant that sell the gear

[main garden]

so are squire quests pointless?

[stone oak]

pretty much

[main garden]

nice

[errant patio]

it would be nice if the Squires to Riches game mode showed you which map was currently in rotation so we could dodge Blue Maelstrom or whatever

[vernal igloo]

guys i got warned by the dark and darker mods

[pallid hemlock]

My report numbers turned into a kangaroo court

[subtle heart]

Only 5k in game, I swear it was like 8k minimum just a week ago?

[vernal igloo]

i got introuble for telling peopel to fart in my mouth

[stone oak]

economy is cooked

[vernal igloo]

it was a female mod who warned me

none of the male mods did

[stone oak]

and the meta still suck

[vernal igloo]

🤔

[empty kraken]

I have another complaint.

[vernal igloo]

what'

[empty kraken]

Why does the Dwarf not get any strength bonus?

Or vigor?

[vernal igloo]

cause it'

it's tiny hitbox

=_=

[empty kraken]

-10 move speed though..

[subtle heart]

Ngl I’m having a good time, gear is easier to find than ever but that might just be me

[vernal igloo]

u hold pavise out

u are unhittable

[empty kraken]

Lol

[stone oak]

hey if you're having fun, keep having fun by all means

that is the goal

[buoyant nacelle]

It is yeah

[vernal igloo]

HOLY SHIT GROK RESPONDED

[subtle heart]

He’s small so the hit is is supposed to be an advantage which is counted by the slow ms and I mean the size can be an advantage if you’re blocking with a SHIELD but they should have added a mining bonus

[buoyant nacelle]

What’s up :)

[empty kraken]

Sure even that would be nice.

[subtle heart]

Too much to ask from Iron mace to put in effort for the sake of creativity tho

They’d rather just make new Barb skills

[errant patio]

being small is pretty interesting you can dodge a lot of things cleanly I think it's a unique mechanic
mining bonus would be cool or like 50% pickaxe damage bonus lolol

[vernal igloo]

put them in thin dental floss bikini

[sonic maple]

Wowowowow

[azure bronze]

You are smaller. Your weapons are not. If you're using a shield its the best class, period. -10 move speed is whatever in modern day

Next season you'll be seeing a lot more dwarfs

[subtle heart]

I guarantee they will drop a new Barb skill by season 9, in fact I heard they wanted to rework it to require more headshots or smt

[vernal igloo]

u heard wrong

[azure bronze]

The reason most people didn't have it is because it costs 12 and you can only get 10 in a season, so you needed to have some from before

[subtle heart]

They told Skinny Pete about new Barb skills and he had to tell them about how other classes are in shambles

They even laughed he said

[azure bronze]

They need to add monk man

[vernal igloo]

they also told skinny pete they were adding a gorilla, spider, penguin, and some other druid shapeshift

and he went around saying that

[pallid hemlock]

well they did add penguin. i wouldn't be surprised if they actually made gorilla and spider and realized how incredibly broken they were, with whatever mechanics they gave them

[vernal igloo]

tru

[pallid hemlock]

spider.... like spider mummy spider???? helll nahh chalk the game 💀

[vernal igloo]

idk

[pallid hemlock]

yeah its probably the one time the devs changed their mind on a boof idea before implementing it

[rancid ivy]

Should i play cleric or druid?

[acoustic plover]

druid they take no skill and are annoying asf

[rancid ivy]

How do i get the most value out of them

[vague plank]

Bard players are almost unable to play the game normally when facing Purge Shot; I feel that the developers have forgotten about Bard players, and I hope te Purge Shot changed, but I don't know where to submit feedback.

[main garden]

good

[buoyant nacelle]

I’ll see what I can do

[tribal bronze]

whats up my neegros

[vague plank]

Can someone tell me how to submit feedback to the developer?

[lost topaz]

is the game worth reinstalling after not playing since 2024

[halcyon kite]

Definitely. We should be getting a sick update today

[indigo valve]

Lol

[mortal valley]

@lost topaz The gameplay keeps improving, the systems keep improving, we are dealing with a big gold duping issue right now that has messed up the market but the actual gameplay is better.

[signal pawn]

glory to bibi netanyahu

[ionic widget]

what update toy?

[dense moon]

If you haven’t played since then, I suggest giving it another try; lots of things have changed since then for all types of players

[vague plank]

@mortal valley Could you please modify Purge Shot? When playing as Bard against Purge Shot, I am almost unable to play the game properly.

[low tendon]

is there a key room in the fire area below goblin caves ?

[verbal sand]

playing bard, deserved

[low tendon]

ive went there like twice

[gritty sorrel]

I think purge shot is kind of supposed to be a counter for bard

[low tendon]

yeah purge shot is mainly for countering bard/cleric

[gritty sorrel]

Also anyone know if the lava weapon skins will be advailable for the blue cosmetic stone thingies?

[brittle barn]

Healer druid is prob the best use case for purge shot

[indigo valve]

ranger counters everything, balanced

[vague plank]

I'm not sure, but I feel that Purge Shot completely invalidates Bard, as if Bard shouldn't exist.

[halcyon kite]

Hopefully the workshop update!

[halcyon kite]

Just rush them with your rapier and buckler. Skill issue. Don’t get shot.

[vague plank]

I feel it's a bit too targeted, even making Bard unplayable. Many of my friends think Bard is too weak, so they wouldn't choose this characte a three-man team.

[tribal bronze]

#dnd-fan-art

[vague plank]

I feel like whether I get hit depends on the opponent's skill level ，QAQ

[prisma horizon]

Bro said bard is too weak

[brittle barn]

Surv bow bard is basically a better surv bow ranger, so just quick peak a corner over n over with it till u chain a few shots then push

[low tendon]

i see bards everywhere also its currently the best class for running bosses too

[vague plank]

It's not like that, friend. I don't think Bard needs a buff, but he is being hard-countered by Purge Shot

[mortal valley]

@vague plank 😅 I'm not part of IM

[elfin current]

can someone plz tell me what bosses have the best chance of a artifact

[brittle barn]

And casters are hard countered by iron will and ranger is hard countered by PDR (unless they build pen), and fighter is hard countered by reckless, etc...

[vague plank]

Yes, Bard is very strong in PVE, but not in player versus player combat.

[vague plank]

Oh, I'm sorry

[brittle barn]

???? Bard has good odds against every class in the game. Prob the most well rounded class. Its good at everything, but not crazy OP

[mortal valley]

@vague plank Just a simple missunderstanding, no big deal 😁

[gritty sorrel]

Imo purge shot should give less damage but be able to clear potions too

[vague plank]

But I don't think this can be called "restraint" anymore. You know, you would choose to fight a Barbarian with a Fighter, but you definitely uldn't use a Bard to face a Purge Shot.

[brittle barn]

What? What are you trying to say lol?

[floral pendant]

It should just have a cooldown on it lol like 5 seconds

[elfin current]

can someone plz tell me what bosses have the best chance of a artifact

[gritty sorrel]

Ghost King and Wywern, but I wouldent bother with grinding artifacts cuz we’re gpnna get either a rollback or a wipe soon

[brittle barn]

Pretty sure Graysun said they’re not rolling it back

[elfin current]

how do we know there going to do that

[gritty sorrel]

What the hell

[elfin current]

did they even fix it yet

its sucks cuz it punishes the ppl who didnt dupe

[gritty sorrel]

Because There’s hundreds of gold coin chests and hundreds of artifacts in circulation which shouldent exist

[vague plank]

I understand what you mean, but the Bard is very average; while he has countermeasures against any other class, he isn't as powerful as trbarian with his "Rage" ability, and the Bard can't go toe-to-toe with Fighters and Barbarians, which leads my friends to prefer using Fighters and Barbariver the Bard.

[elfin current]

in a very bad way

[brittle barn]

In the creators discord or something he said something about not rolling it back and that they’ve supposedly banned most of the dupers

[gritty sorrel]

Yea…

[gritty sorrel]

What about the gold and artifacts which are already in circulation😭

[brittle barn]

They didn’t dupe the items, they duped the gold

It’s the gold in circulation that’s an issue

[gritty sorrel]

Oh? I heard that artifacts too

(I actually dont know this So Well, im just echoing What I heard from others)

[brittle barn]

That’s cope bro. Good bard players piece up barb/fighters like crazy

[vague plank]

What I mean is that Purge Shot completely killed the Bard character.

[celest ravine]

Quick question, is there a place to use the Mystical gem in the fire deep? I got two in one run and didn't know what to do with my second gem

[brittle barn]

No the whole dupe revolves around gold inside a container, items couldn’t be duped by this one at least

[brittle barn]

I mean in arenas maybe? But in the main game I see bards in almost every one of my matches

[gritty sorrel]

I see Bards every other or every game

[brittle barn]

You can break the handle off of an arming sword and glue it to the gem to make a pretty butt plug

[gritty sorrel]

Hm. Allright, maeby its reversible then

Remove like 50% of everyones gold

[brittle barn]

I mean the hyper inflation from all the gold is still a problem.

[celest ravine]

asking everyone but you wtf are you on brother

[brittle barn]

Yeah no you can’t just rob every player in the game cause a couple of Chinese RMTers abused a bug lol

[gritty sorrel]

No but that would fix the inflation and thpse who got money in an honest way can get it back no issue

Also Sidenote is marketplace universal or server based?

[celest ravine]

@gritty sorrel I think it's server based but I could be wrong

[gritty sorrel]

Intresting

[brittle barn]

Honestly I don’t think 50% would fix it. I think you’d have to remove 90% of the gold in circulation to get it back to pre-dupe levels. Regardless, if you punish every player in the game like that, then you’ll have a massive amount of people quit the game perma

[gritty sorrel]

Oh holy shit it was that big💀

[brittle barn]

Not lil Timmy’s fault that some Chinese dupers went buck wild

[frozen island]

Do we think that the dupe has been fixed yet? Are bags still going to go up?

[brittle barn]

I mean you could dupe 150k a game sooooo

[gritty sorrel]

…. I… damn

[indigo wagon]

Dude I actually just got banned again??? are you guys serious… I legit did nothing wrong I stg. I got banned for a friendly encounter yesterday because I let someone hit the pile with me. Now I just got a 2 day ban and I’m under “investigation” lmaooo wtf

[ionic widget]

pelts and bags are down about 10k... hopefully it goes down more soon

[vague plank]

But my friend, if you can beat a Barbarian with a Buckler, why not use a Fighter, it would be easier,

[cloud topaz]

whats more important mag power or phys power boc + spells

[prisma horizon]

Bard is average because he need to poke before runing down barbarian yea u right

[gritty sorrel]

I thought I was making bank with Faustian bargain with ~15k/day

[brittle barn]

Cause higher action speed, higher ms, free surv bow spam, buffs & debuffs

[ionic widget]

mag power fs

[stone panther]

should have just duped like a normal person. How dare you share your wealth with another party, you animal

[indigo wagon]

There’s legit thousands of people duoing gold and I’m getting investigated for letting a feathered hat bard hit the pile with me.. you guys are actually sickening

[cloud topaz]

how much phys power u think

[gritty sorrel]

High roller or normal?

[ionic widget]

enough for 10% phys should be good enough with boc

[brittle barn]

Again? What’d you get banned for the first time? On a side note: The screen you get before loading into HR says “no friendly encounters whatsoever”

[cloud topaz]

whats better phantomize or spells +boc

[indigo wagon]

so I didn’t insta kill the timmy in front of me my bad bro

[frozen island]

hard to say, if the dupe is fixed then prices should drop but it could still be active

[mortal valley]

@Mello blame Northern Taiwan for not being able to play the game properly

[copper sierra]

why doesnt this game ban preteamers?

[indigo wagon]

i played all day today and insta killed everyone I see. Why am I still getting banned???

[gritty sorrel]

They should make a non ranked High Roller with a higher ante which doesnt ban friendly encounters and allows FB

[ionic widget]

spells + boc is good if u want a hybrid build, boc + phantomize if u want a backline phys warlock build, and phantomize + spells is good for TM loc

[brittle barn]

Lmao just got a warning by the mods for discussing the Dupe

Classic

Yeah yeah no that’s my bad for discussing that it exists and the extent of damage its caused

[gritty sorrel]

Huh? That’s not allowed? Its not like you’re sharing how to do it

[ionic widget]

really? wtf lmao

[cloud topaz]

for solo

[brittle barn]

Apparently not allowed to discuss exploits whatsoever

[pallid hemlock]

streamsniper ban? teaming ban? you gotta kill streamers last

[ionic widget]

solo? prolly go TM loc over boc + spells

[gritty sorrel]

I CANT SAY THE NAME OF A BOOK WHAT

[pallid hemlock]

youre allowed to say the E word? 🤔

[ionic widget]

TM loc with mag power and mag healing, easy solo games trust

[gritty sorrel]

George Orwell then godammit

[indigo wagon]

I mean I could just bully every lobby and gear diff everyone and ruin the experience I try to give people a chance to live sometimes if they ask me not to kill theme idk seems pretty crazy they don’t even ban pre teamers in norms and hr so

[pallid hemlock]

🤣 🤣

[copper sierra]

why the fuck do they care about exploits when literally every match has pre teaming

[gritty sorrel]

No but try it. You cant type the name of the book atleast in Numbers

[indigo wagon]

I kill everyone tonight they still ban me lmaoo

[nocturne urchin]

why cant i login

[honest cedar]

I can sleep better tonight, knowing Grayson is WELL in control of the gold problem.

• it's SUPER not destroying the market as we speak

[ionic widget]

lots of teamers in norms rn lmao, everyone preteaming to farm spec

[brittle barn]

“You have received a warning on the Dark and Darker server. Reason given: [17] - Discussing or advertising cheats/exploits/in-game services (including in-game carries) is forbidden including websites, servers or other platforms Please message one of our Tavern Masters if you believe the warn is unjustified.”

My bad chief didn’t know I couldn’t mention that it exists and is breaking the game, even though I gave no information on how it works 😂

[gritty sorrel]

Teaming in norms is allowed though. Its fun

[mortal valley]

LOL he is right you cant refference the fourth year of 1980 because whoever designed the censorship list for the server is definitely Left.

[vague plank]

It's not in arenas; my friends think Bard is just a lockpick for opening chests, not a proper class, maybe their play level isn'

[brittle barn]

teaming in norms is cringe

[ionic widget]

yeah nah whichever warden sent u that is on something fs

[nocturne urchin]

sike it works now

[ionic widget]

you didnt discuss how it works, or anything of the sort lol

[brittle barn]

LOL YOU CANT SAY 1980 fill in the blank

[gritty sorrel]

I’ve had a game Where I just followed two people fighting playing songs. It was fun to talk with em while they fought to the death

[gritty sorrel]

I TOLD YOU ALL!

[cloud topaz]

when u attack with ur weapon its phys dmg right not mag dmg when im using boc

[brittle barn]

Not being able to say a fucking date is comical

[weak frost]

Nineteen Eighty Four was a good year mic check 1 2 mic check 1 2

[ionic widget]

boc scales off of mag power not phys lol

[ionic widget]

only thing scaling with phys is your base dmg

[brittle barn]

That’s some China banning “Tiananmen square” from the internet shit

[gritty sorrel]

I’d understand certain dates but cmoon. That has nothing bad

[ionic widget]

christopher columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492

[mortal valley]

In Halo Infinite they banned all numbers in chat for reasons and the name of the dev studio is 343 so you couldn't even type the dev studio name in chat 😂

[cloud topaz]

whats best weapon to use magic staff or kriss dager + crystal ball

[fathom field]

Your freedom of speech is guaranteed, but posts mocking the relationship between RMT and Chinese people or encouraging exploits will not be tolerated. Also, moderation cannot be discussed on this server.

[ionic widget]

depends on what your building lol

[cloud topaz]

boc + spells

[ionic widget]

prolly staff, more overall dmg with boc active

unless you have a zirkzi ofc

[cloud topaz]

alr

[vague plank]

Thank you for understanding me

[gritty sorrel]

Why is george orwells book blocked?

[little trench]

LOOKING FOR A 3RD

[cloud topaz]

what abt will is it only important for spells?

[ionic widget]

will increases your base spell dmg and your mag power

[gritty sorrel]

#lfg-(whatever server u play on)

[vague plank]

However, compared to Fighters, the lower damage and reduced health are clearly disadvantageous for close-quarters combat.

[little trench]

#lfg na east

[fathom field]

I'm not sure what you mean, but it's not directly related to the game. Remember rule number one.

[mortal valley]

Feels like it shouldn't be super hard to figure out who was running dupes and who they were trading to if the devs have good logs. Can't be that many people coming out of the dungeon with 25k at a time and can't be that many buying and trading all artifacts off of market.

[ionic widget]

big facts

[gritty sorrel]

Its a book whichs name is used to refrence cencorship-

[mortal valley]

Unfortunately the devs probably dont have great logs -___-

[ionic widget]

if my lil 3k a run in dungeons gets rolled back imma be sad asf

im jus a humble flower farmer lads pls dont make me lose my flowers :(

[fathom field]

I don't know much about the book, but it shouldn't be relevant to the game.

[gritty sorrel]

Cencorship is 🤷‍♂️

[boreal pulsar]

w dupe

[fathom field]

Either way, this is a place to discuss the future of the game, and Filter is here to help that.

[gritty sorrel]

🫠

[fathom field]

You don't necessarily need to use that word when you say something. And you can't talk about moderation publicly. If you need to, please use a ticket. This is to ensure that all users can enjoy talking about the game in a safe environment.

[mortal valley]

@gritty sorrel It's an absurd mentality; like trying to discuss philosophy with an animal...on a farm 😏

[gritty sorrel]

Elite ball knowledge

[mortal valley]

Game recognize game.

[shell flower]

Is there a guide by any chance explaining the gem socketing?

[vapid oyster]

you use gems to add stats to gear, that's it lol

[shell flower]

Any gear pretty much?

[deft lintel]

Yeah, you just replace one stat with another stat that you want.

You need the same rarity of gem, for the rarity of gear you want to replace a stat on

[vapid oyster]

yes?

[brittle barn]

Isn’t this a direct contradiction to your previous statement of “Your freedom of speech is guaranteed”

Banning arbitrary words, which do not conflict with any of the rules, seems like the exact opposite of guaranteeing freedom of speech idkkk

Like not being able to say a date that refers to an anti-fascist book seems very unfree speech

[shell flower]

Ok thank you, wasnt sure if it was variety wise or what not, I havent played since around Warlock lol

[gritty sorrel]

Kinda wanna start making a Dark and Darker wiki cuz the current one is fucking ded

[deft lintel]

It’s free to edit. It’s a community wiki, anyone can contribute.

Would be way easier to update that one instead of starting from scratch. I’ve done it several times, and it’s not too hard.

[gritty sorrel]

Oh it is?

Cool! Now I'd just need to somehow get accurate information

[pure trout]

movementspeed doesnt make sense this wipe

[halcyon jewel]

plz give me address

[maiden crypt]

what class is best at fighting the bs boss banshee

[pure trout]

the cleric has 269 movement speed and I have 310 and somehow he can hit me??

[warm kraken]

Join the wiki discord, they're actively fixing it up this wipe

[deft lintel]

You do need a bit of understanding of html, and reading website code. But they have help pages for contributors.

[gritty sorrel]

I'd say Bard or Rogue, both are overall good agaist bosses

[halcyon jewel]

where is wiki

[gritty sorrel]

Buried 6ft deep

[deft lintel]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Wiki_Editing

@gritty sorrel

[gritty sorrel]

Neat! Also what kind of a class is "Knight"?

[halcyon jewel]

old

i want new

[cyan meadow]

😭 get gud bro

[jade depot]

Warlock! Makes the boss extremely easy with demon form

[fossil kernel]

I wanna be able to cancel emote animations, ripping a fart mid fight could even be tactical!

[thorny monolith]

who is best class for warmaul

[fathom field]

There's no need to get into complicated stuff like that, anything that significantly disrupts chat will seriously damage the experience for other users and may result in you being prohibeted or restricted, within the rules.

And this is not a gaming discussion anymore. Please leave this topic.

[gritty sorrel]

Cleric

[indigo valve]

Oh w didn’t know that

[brittle barn]

Equivocation, but alright fine

[deft lintel]

It’s a role you get on the other discord channel, “The hall of knights”. I’m basically a volunteer to help new players learn anything they need help with in-game

[gritty sorrel]

Thats complicated 😭

[gritty sorrel]

Aaaaa that. Kewl!

[brittle barn]

Getting the new modules on the wiki would be so nice

Herb farming would go crazy

[deft lintel]

Most of the editing you don’t need to reference or use the html to update a page. You can just update the text instead.

But yeah, you want it to be semi maintainable you need to streamline it with code and what not.

[deft lintel]

At this point I think all the mapping and modules is relegated to the other site. I hope they partner up or something though.

https://darkanddarkertracker.com/maps

[golden viper]

So the Game is cooked now since everyone is duplicating Gold rn or what

[radiant notch]

wizard after wizard and maybe a sorc bro

omfg this game is miserable when solos is only casters

[gritty sorrel]

The game is fun, the economy of the game is cooked af

[radiant notch]

and rangers

[gritty sorrel]

.... where? Ive not seen a single caster in solos besides a tank demon warlock

[radiant notch]

i wish bro

[radiant notch]

na east or west gc

[gritty sorrel]

Ah yea dont play there might be

[radiant notch]

idk i just want a fighter fight

bro ill take a barb too

[gritty sorrel]

Come play Europe, we got only fighters barbs and bards

Occasional demon too

[radiant notch]

im just worried about ping

[gritty sorrel]

Valid

[radiant notch]

this game wiuth bad ping seems especially horrible

[mortal valley]

Caster has rarely been great in solo aside from Loc; really strong in trios or arena though.

[radiant notch]

i mean sorc is VERY good in solos bc ur freeze can go through iron will

also i believe it would be healthy for the game to adjust mob density in solos bc it should not be the same as trios

[mortal valley]

Freeze is definitely rough to get hit with 😛

[gritty sorrel]

Its really nasty to get blasted with +50% magic damage, 25% magic penetration Elemental Spear

[radiant notch]

IMO and maybe its just me, i think that base maps before you hit a red in HR should have a MAJORITY of red mobs, with occasional nightmare mobs (like red mobs in norms) and maybe as u go down it turns into current hr

[gritty sorrel]

I think HR mobs are fine

[radiant notch]

theres nothing to do if ur not barb w iron will as a melee class

[gritty sorrel]

Yea its real nasty when ur playing a fighter with plate 😭

[radiant notch]

i think fighter is so cool in theory but crossbow longsword has to be the worst thing in gaming ever

fighters WILL NOT push unless they hit a crossbow

i think thats too much reliance on ranged damage as a melee class and i think it just demonstrates how overtuned ranged damage is

[pale ivy]

is there gonna be a patch tonight

[agile timber]

yeah probaly with current events unless they havent a clue how to fix it (doubtful but you never know)

[gritty sorrel]

Uh... Am I not supposed to push?

[radiant notch]

i mean i think ur a very handsome and attractive person for not relying on your crossbow

[gritty sorrel]

Every time I play fighter I throw down a banner and W key the enemy with the throwing axes

[radiant notch]

but unfortunately its a lot better to initiate a fight once youve hit ur crossbow heady

[gritty sorrel]

I do use it to start the fight, then just run in with longsword after I miss cuz my aim sucks

[radiant notch]

i have opinions about longsword. actually parrying in general. I think ripostes should ONLY be available if you have entered the parry stance no longer than 0.5 seconds before they hit u

i think a perfect parry system makes it so u cant fish for parries

esp if they are so intent on giving longsword such powerful ripostes

[brittle barn]

If you play on WiFi rather than Ethernet, it actually gives you a hidden buff on barb (doubles your bardiche range) XD

[brittle barn]

Also 1-hand weapons should not be able to parry 2-hand weapons. It’s kinda ridiculous how much the parry system ignores the break rating system

[gritty sorrel]

Hey I dont use longsword for parry! I use it cuz it has enough range and thrust attack so I dont hit my friends with the first attack

[gritty sorrel]

I feel like some 2 handed weapons should be parriable, like Quarterstaff and Longsword. But others like Zweihander and Axes and definetly Warmaul should not

[radiant notch]

THISSSSS

[brittle barn]

Yeah maybe if they introduced a weight system to it (could just be based on the MS penalty the weapon gives you, as that’s tied to weight logically)

[gritty sorrel]

Or IMPACT RATING!!!! Its literally the thing

[pure trout]

BTW a heater shield cant tank a felling Axe with Crush but a rapier...

[noble verge]

Yall are cooking rn

[brittle barn]

Currently it’s weird cause impact rating just doesn’t matter for parrys. Like a lantern shield has impact rating 5 and so does a heater shield, but a heater shield gets stunned by war maul when a lantern shield does not

I think it’s why shields are severely not meta rn

[last scroll]

a heater shield can’t tank a crush felling axe but a rapier can that makes zero sense lol

[brittle barn]

Cause they have to worry about impact rating whereas parry does not. You also ofc get the damage bonus from the parry, and are faster ms not having a shield

[low tendon]

does ghost king have a different moveset for high roller?

[brittle barn]

Also tbh projectiles should not activate parrys

[gritty sorrel]

Every boss does. I found this the hard way after being punched in the head by troll

[noble verge]

Parry is fine but not riposte

[gritty sorrel]

Its super satisfying to parry arrows with longsword or rapier

[brittle barn]

It’s really lame that icebolt is a horrible spell to hit someone chasing you now cause not only does it not do damage, it gives them a speed, action speed, and damage boost lmao

[last scroll]

impact rating really screws shields over, parry kinda bypasses all that + you get the dmg bonus and better ms

[gritty sorrel]

what

[brittle barn]

A good fighter with a halberd literally can’t be icebolted. It’s hitbox is huge so it’s easy asf to parry, which then activates counterattack and ofc gives them 2 big hits

[gritty sorrel]

Ah

[brittle barn]

And other classes can still parry it ofc, just no counterattack

[robust otter]

game would be fun if you didnt run into the same person every single raid

[gritty sorrel]

Hit em with a fireball

[last scroll]

yeah halberd is kinda busted for that 💀

[brittle barn]

Or like missiles are kind of trash now cause they’ll just parry it, on every single class

[gritty sorrel]

Gotta get a bigger playerbase

[lethal badger]

I believe not, the chase is much faster and before the jump, more bats(?)

[gritty sorrel]

Wait was I spreading misinformation

[lethal badger]

Nono

The other bosses have some changes

[last scroll]

yeah fr missiles feel so bad rn everyone just insta parries and you get nothing out of it 😭 kinda makes ranged feel pointless ngl

[gritty sorrel]

Bonk Wizard

[lethal badger]

Like lich has the circle on the outer arena

[brittle barn]

True damage removal + giving everything parry = missiles are ass lol

[lethal badger]

Skeleton warlord has that moving crystal

Ghost king is prob the only one where the moves are relatively same

[brittle barn]

Personally I think you should not be able to parry spells. Block maybe fine, but parry? The fuck?

[gritty sorrel]

Troll starts throwing hands

[last scroll]

yeah that combo killed them tbh 💀
no true dmg universal parry why even bother running missiles lol

[gritty sorrel]

Make it so you can block spells with shields but not weapons

[brittle barn]

Missiles best use case now is spamming them from mid range to homing missile fuck em or to missile someone in the back while your teammate is on them

[last scroll]

yeah pretty much 😭 either spam mid range and hope the homing carries or third party someone while they’re busy actual 1v1 value is kinda dead lol

[brittle barn]

Kinda stupid that fire ball is a better anti-chase kite spell than ice bolt now though

Also when we gonna get more ice spells mannn. Ice mastery has some potential

[gritty sorrel]

We need like a hailstorm

[lapis pollen]

is it known when new quest will open up? especially looking for the quest to unlock weaponsmith the crafts

[last scroll]

yeah that part is actually wild 💀 fireball being better at anti chase than ice bolt feels so backwards and fr where are the ice spells at ice mastery could be so sick if they actually added more synergy 😭

[brittle barn]

I want ice grenade- slow moving projectile you lob and it explodes doing AOE damage and leaving the area it exploded covered in a sheet of ice that slows enemies. Like think of how the imp throws those ice ball things as far as how the projectile moves

[warm kraken]

tomorrow 4pm PST, same time as arena opens

[last scroll]

yo that actually sounds sick like a slow lob aoe dmg ice patch perfect zoning cc spell basically an ice version of a fire grenade but way more control focused would def give ice mastery some love

[pallid hemlock]

can we get a penguin potion?

[ionic widget]

is it possible to pull artis from goblin caves piles? or no

[lapis pollen]

thanks

[fallen dragon]

yes

[weary magnet]

is the Fire Colossus much different in high roller from squire gonna go fight him in squire to learn him for HR

[ionic widget]

which artis drop from the pile?

[fallen dragon]

all

[last scroll]

nah he’s mostly the same tbh 🔥 attack patterns don’t really change just maybe slightly higher dmg in HR so learning him in squire is fine

[weary magnet]

okay thanks

[last scroll]

yep

[rapid vapor]

its faster and thats about it

[last scroll]

yes

[coarse falcon]

Are they doing rollbacks??? Is it point less to play? Pulled an artifact recently sadly

[subtle goblet]

We don't know whats happening at this point

[versed oasis]

Rollback guy left the company, ur good

[subtle goblet]

could be a rollback, could be a wipe, could be ??

I'm not playing because i'm not sure whats happening and won't waste my time if they do rollback/semi-wipe

[coarse falcon]

Ya just open arena again then man like cmon

[subtle goblet]

They could have brought back the arena dupe for all we know lol

[coarse falcon]

Even if rollback I can play arena tho 😂 why close it so long just weird

Is it still gonna be All purples or they don’t tell when changes

[sage kite]

wheres the patch

[last scroll]

aw rip 😭 not sure if they’re doing rollbacks but yeah if they do it kinda sucks for stuff you just got lol

[mighty tulip]

idk, with graysun downplaying the incident, they will just keep going

[jovial field]

intresting what developers will do with dupe?

[gritty sorrel]

I say its a necessary loss. I just managed to get 30k sale but I’d still like a wipe tp fix market prices

[subtle goblet]

idc really anymore i've had my fun for the wipe and all this is just a good excuse for me not to play

All these ifs and buts for what? Ironmace to do what they want to do anyway

[last scroll]

30k is still solid but a wipe would defs help stabilize the market prices lol

[gritty sorrel]

30k is a LOT to me cuz I suck.

[coarse falcon]

Wipe already we didn’t even get to good arena kits

[fallow blaze]

is there gonna be an update today?

[low tendon]

is there still a way to get the ghost king to use the chase move on a summon

[warm kraken]

speak for yourself

[low tendon]

i cant work out how to do it

[last scroll]

yeah Its alot btw do you stream ?

[gritty sorrel]

Why do you ask?-

[remote yoke]

Does anyone know why troll pelts keep skyrocketing in price rn?

I just want to make a coin bag

[warm kraken]

what are they up to now, they were down to like 26k earlier

i think its cheaper to just buy a coin bag

[subtle goblet]

Helen wong is getting on and playing market manip

[subtle goblet]

gold duped induced inflation

[remote yoke]

ah beans

[remote yoke]

nearly 40k

[subtle goblet]

They will most likely go up through the night then go back down when helen goes to bed

[mild lark]

Looking forward to the bans and people complaining about being banned

[remote yoke]

who is helen?

[subtle goblet]

chinese rmters

[remote yoke]

ooooh

[subtle goblet]

helen wong

common term used for these kind of people nowadays

[remote yoke]

oooh gotcha

[lean belfry]

who can carry me for warlord

im just a little barb who cant boss

[north tartan]

spawns needa be changes i had a person spawn in the ver next room of forgotten castle and theres only 3 people in the whole game when i spectated kinda wild man

[analog summit]

polymorph potion

what if polymorph potion could make you into a barrel or crate until you move (like invis pot)

except too bad devs dont randomize anything in this game so over half of every player is already knowing what should be where

[analog summit]

no one feels bad for you barbarian

[lean belfry]

but i cant boss im just a wee little pve player

[indigo valve]

Play bard

[lean belfry]

im also a simpleton who cant figure out how to play bard

thats why i play barb

[subtle goblet]

most barb players are like you dw

you aren't alone in the short boat

[meager forge]

I wonder what theyre gonna do to fix the dupe. Rollback seems necessary since all the dupers prolly invested all their stuff in items that are now gone from market etc

Other accounts etc

[gritty sorrel]

Honestly should I sell my coin bag and put the money to finish religion before they wipe?

[meager forge]

They wont wipe. They might do rollback in which case what u do doesnt matter.

[gritty sorrel]

Aw. Well ig ill play smth else for a while

[fleet hamlet]

I have a question regarding the gold dupe that breaking game economy right now. If this bug didn't exist last season, what code could be changed to make this bug unintentionally? I mean, what exactly changed in the items-return logic? I'm 100% sure this can't be done by mistake

[gritty sorrel]

Coding is hard, its very possible they changed like how looting or smth works and it broke smth else and it spiraled without anyone noticing

[meager forge]

Very possible to do by mistake with coding. Endless amouny of possible reasons.

[weary magnet]

Been tryna learn this new fire bosses parries with longsword and it’s annoying asf his attacks always go through my longsword or just miss it

[lunar fable]

Is there a fix for the can't connect to server bug? I used to be able to get in like 1 out of every 4 attempts but it's been impossible to get in the game today.

[fleet hamlet]

That's not how coding works if you have decent developers. It's even kinda rare to make so many "mistakes" from season to season to allow duping

[brazen pike]

You're talking out of your ass lol

[gritty sorrel]

There is bigger dev teams with even more spaghetti code

[fleet hamlet]

I bet there are. But how many of them make similar mistakes from year to year allowing rmt mechanics?

unintentionally*

[gritty sorrel]

Like atleast 4

[lone nymph]

my guy thats exactly how coding works, ts is not a conspiracy theory, spaghetti codes are the cause of all the bugs you encounter (even normal codes from big devs have bugs)

[nocturne urchin]

how in the LITERAL FUCK do you use the blue gated exit in ice caverns bro

the one that looks like an elevator

[brazen pike]

That being said if you want an answer that fits your logic it could have been a bug that occurred in the development process of the quiver. The current quiver is a tweak on gold storage containers.

[gritty sorrel]

That makes a lot of sense

[lone nymph]

wait for it open even on top floor but the lever is near the elevator itself

[brazen pike]

the gates open on their own and then you pull the lever at the bottom to start the elevator

[nocturne urchin]

how do you go down bro

theres no way to go down

[restive beacon]

anyone know if arenas is gonna allow legendary tmrw?

[brazen pike]

after the gate opens on it's own, it's in the last couple minutes of the match from my experience

[nocturne urchin]

ok thanks. 5 mins left in the match been waiting here whole time

ill keep waiting

[fleet hamlet]

Nothing related to this in my mind. I'm just sure their developers do everything to maintain their job, including completely unfair advantages of developers.

[sonic maple]

Save Us paul

[subtle goblet]

why unban them though? just perma ban them

[meager forge]

Ye but they dont have individual id-assets in code. Rollback would be the most fair option. Rollback a week or so.

[subtle goblet]

just because they like to do that doesn't mean they should though

[inland harbor]

how could they ever bann someone? there are like 5 ppl playing if they bann rmters and cheater perma there is noone left

[nocturne urchin]

no fucking way there's actually a yeti

[lone nymph]

deadahh rn bro how do they benefit from this, theyre not even playing their game, do you really think they use the exploits themselves to profit??? do you believe in illuminati?

[nocturne urchin]

why............. would they do this to me

[fleet hamlet]

They're not using any exploits or playing game. They intentionally make code so bad that not even a single "new" developer can handle this, so noone can fire them

[subtle goblet]

So the game is just left in this sad state with people breaking the game and/or ruining the wipe everytime and we just have to deal with it...okay see you on the other side of this game going nowhere

[lone nymph]

bruh you think devs are fighter jet pilots or sm??? its an indie dev studio every single mid dev can fix their code (prolly even a jun in this case)

it aint a davinci painting

[slow salmon]

Give rogues their agility back this is tragic im chasing them down full armor on a barb and theyre naked.

[warm kraken]

unbanning them? 😂

[brazen pike]

maybe rogue will get some more mobility with the new content they're supposed to get this wipe

[lone nymph]

i really hope youre sarcastic rn

do you believe in illuminati?

[brazen pike]

random holes in boss room rat could get through

🤣

exploiters got an insider in the IM dev team making holes the map design

seems legit

[lone nymph]

ye i cant with these people, why are we acting like its 1990 and you just got access to the internet

[analog summit]

ACTUALLY EVERYONE: Whats happening is a classic case of the game developers having 0 quality checks on their game. Meaning all the players who are exploiting or cheating are essentially ‘testing’ the game for bugs that should clearly be removed before release

[gritty sorrel]

I mean. It is early access

[inland harbor]

It was always like that and its hard for the devs to use their brains. every new season there was a money glitch. they always revertred everything but after the 6th time, ppl were mad about the usual new season back up. now they jsut banned them for a week

[meager forge]

But then they will ban players and remove items gained without cheating (player who killed duper in HR forexample) as they dont have the individual item IDs.

[analog summit]

yea in the old age game developers would have people test the game and then release it. in the new days every game developer releases their game immediately for ‘early access’ and instead just releasing the game after most of the playerbase has dissolved

[brazen pike]

I have never played a game free of exploits, maybe y'all got some recommendations for me

[fallow blaze]

no update today?

[analog summit]

exactly

[vast coral]

They still said nothing about the gold dupe ? Damn....

[subtle goblet]

They need to build trust with people not just expect them to deal with this sort of thing EVERY wipe just because its EA. It will never make it to release and if it does no one will want to play it because they have used their small playerbase as guinea pigs for years. I mean thats up to them but i guess they don't want a lot of players like the good old days

[lone nymph]

[gritty sorrel]

I say just do a full wipe and ban all the exploiters

[meager forge]

Then you wont fix the dupe economy trickledown problem.

Rollback is the onlu thing that fixes it without banning/removing items from players who got them fairly.

[lone nymph]

ragebait opinion

[analog summit]

how bout. another semi semi semi wipe lol

devs got dirty butts with all this semi wiping

[gritty sorrel]

No im serious. It would fix the issue no? Well assuming they also fix the bug

[warm kraken]

that guy is the only person i have ever blocked in this discord lol

[lone nymph]

thats actually true, you have no idea how much liquid gold got into economy from those

[inland harbor]

the game is dying and id bet money on it that they wont survive this year. every new season they lose 5k players. they do the same mistakes over and over for years. ppl who came back, came back like 4 times and every time it got worse. so why would they try a 5th time

[gritty sorrel]

What did I do wrong 😭

[lone nymph]

you probably have duuped gold in ur inventory

[warm kraken]

people have said this for like 4 years

[subtle goblet]

I would say it was good while it lasted but lets be real the only "good" times was playtest era

[lone nymph]

another "bugs are a conspiracy from devs" guy

[worldly horizon]

Hello guys, i really dont understand whats the difference of physical damage bonus, physical power and additional physiical damage? Can some1 pls explain me. I want to make a ranger build with recurved.

[inland harbor]

the game is out for 3 years sth, somehow the first 2 years where ppl actually liked the game makes it 6 years nice

[subtle goblet]

most people would at this point tbh

[median patrol]

Yo my ppl have sell 2 spectral bag then we have farm légit and now is ban life.... where it was say we shouldnt sell it.

[proven raft]

This season is super hard for new players to get rolling

[lone nymph]

my guy you have a duuped gold rn with a 99.9999 percent chance

[inland harbor]

ye just wipe the game

[warm kraken]

i sold 10 spectral bags for 100k each, i definitely do lmao

[gritty sorrel]

Yea!

[lone nymph]

have fun before a rollback ig)

[median patrol]

Any help ? We have sell 2 spectral bag and now we ban cause we have farm and sell it .....

[analog summit]

foreign man punished for legitimate sales meanwhile locale cheaters are made wealthy and untouched

[nocturne urchin]

Do we know what % chance the Goblin Merchant has to return items? I have done all his quests so far.

[gritty sorrel]

You should prolly contact support

[inland harbor]

its slowly dying and the only comeback possible is if they sell their company

[analog summit]

this game is frocked

[gritty sorrel]

Atleast 5%

[median patrol]

Should i make ticket on game or discord ? Whats faster?

[subtle goblet]

For what

[gritty sorrel]

Getting banned for selling legit bags

[subtle goblet]

That won't happen

[median patrol]

Unban my friends cause we have farm 2 spectral and sell gold bag to buy arena build...

[analog summit]

both

[fallow blaze]

i doubt anyone is getting banned for selling legit bags

[vast coral]

I doubt they'll rollback at this point. They waited too long. People kept playing. I think they will just do nothing. Which deceives me

[subtle goblet]

worst case the bags will get wiped

[subtle goblet]

Has your friends already been banned or what?

[brazen pike]

IP was leased out for Dark and Darker Mobile and while it was neat I think their interpretation of Dark and Darker was not preferable to what IM created. 3rd person felt weird, Bard shot music notes at people and it was a gacha game with P2W lol.

[warm kraken]

yeah the mobile version was so bad

[inland harbor]

the dupes have always been there and tbh I dont think its on a good track. Just because the last patches have been not insanly bad, doesnt means they are good. for once in 3 years they just did okay

[last scroll]

damn 😭 so y’all sold 2 spectral bags legit and now banned feels super unfair if the rules didn’t say anything before smh

[median patrol]

No never we have sell yesterday night because price was high and dk about all this prblm dupe this morning...

[brazen pike]

I'm just saying, you guys want to dream about a scenario where IM sells Dark and Darker and well there's your reality. You might not think Dark and Darker is perfect now, no game is, but in another studio's hands you have no idea what to expect.

[median patrol]

0 advertise on discord or game and now is ban

[subtle goblet]

You or your friends won't get banned for selling bags on the marketplace. You aren't duping so it won't affect you

[median patrol]

Is ban. I swear

0 gold dup

[warm kraken]

so no ban or yes ban

[fervent anvil]

You will only get a ban if you were abusing the bug. If you didnt. Then your good

[odd grove]

they did get banned

[subtle goblet]

So they were cheating/exploiting okay

was really hard to understand

[inland harbor]

As long as they sell it to a company that worked on games before, it cant get worse. With all the mistakes IM did, how bad can you make the already existing version? they could change sth and actually listen to players and act accordingly

[fervent anvil]

So they were using the bug then. If they werent then they gotta contact support

[odd grove]

from what they said they farmed spectral to make bags then sold them

and got banned

if thats true i have no hope for IM actually catching all the exploiters

[fervent anvil]

Ive been farming spec and sold a bag. Thats not the reqson they were banned

[subtle goblet]

sdf is typing lads

[median patrol]

Yo uptdate : it good it was à bug from client with failed issue i apologie (have à great day all)

[odd grove]

good to hear bro

[median patrol]

Is bad in eng and thinks it was say ban i ask him to reaload all and all fine... litlle stress

My bad have à great day so

[brazen pike]

[gritty sorrel]

Apparently happened

Or not.

Good thing tis was resolved

[subtle goblet]

yeah he corrected himself lol

[warm kraken]

dang a sdf annoucement

[tiny meteor]

dayum this announcement sounds stupid and unprepared, it's like "we didnt do shit yet, plz don't care"

[subtle goblet]

it must be working because i don't care to play the game at all lol

[tiny meteor]

yupp

[odd grove]

im not touching the game until theres a real announcement with info on what theyre going to do

[floral pendant]

So the dupe really did do barely anything and spec bags went that high from speculation?

[tiny meteor]

sdf on some heavy bs as always

[odd grove]

no hes just trying to downplay it

[boreal pulsar]

I think I found sdf alt guys

[odd grove]

if you take one look at the market you can tell its joever

[floral pendant]

Yeah who knows really i just hope it is actually fixed because as long as it is market should correct itself within a couple weeks due to farming

[silent spruce]

did they break ghost king

he's been spawning puddles in the air

[unreal wharf]

what heals more for barb potion chugger phys heal or mag

[tiny meteor]

no its not xD , first rodeo ?

[floral pendant]

I mean comparatively you can still get the same amount of gear from the same amount of loot other than valuables

[floral pendant]

Have you never played another MMO game?

[atomic raptor]

Potion = mag, bandages = phys

[silent spruce]

phys is bandage mag is for potions and druid/cleric healing

[floral pendant]

Have you never experienced a dupe?

[last scroll]

lol ghost king just floating puddles now sounds like they def bugged him

[floral pendant]

If they arent blatantly lying and it wasnt widespread the market will correct itself

[last scroll]

nope do you?

[floral pendant]

Ur grammar confuses me

[thorn bronze]

Where do I report teamers?

[analog summit]

If you play Potion chugger as barb you want magic healing and will

[thorn bronze]

with clip

[floral pendant]

All i gotta say is in runescape Wow etc when dupes happen only extremely widespread and long lasting dupes have gotten rollbacks

[analog summit]

will because of magic resistance/ buff duration for your shouts/ and the magic power from will also adds to magical healing

[last scroll]

I mean do you experienced?

[thorn bronze]

Where Do I report teamers and the clip?

[last scroll]

why your pfp similar like monkey do you like monkey?

[silent spruce]

hr or normal

[floral pendant]

5k to sdf per sell for large prices, more farming making the items less as people already have gold storage, etc

[tiny meteor]

i did, but dnd has this ability to keep u out of it once u fomo or some ppl, in this case dupers, hoard everything and lock the HR for the most part; hence why none is playing it atm

[silent spruce]

because teaming in normals is allowed

[thorn bronze]

normal

[silent spruce]

its allowed

[thorn bronze]

insaneee

[analog summit]

correct

[floral pendant]

Yeah im saying itl work IF they are able to delete accounts and items of the dupers at least in their inventories, if not then itd be cooked

[compact urchin]

That’s what ‚spec bags' stands for really

[floral pendant]

Holy i didnt think about that nice one lmfao

[tiny meteor]

they'll never, i'm here since pt2 and they never had/will; only way out is wipe

[maiden crypt]

banshee is the dumbest boss in the whole game

[analog summit]

correct

technically easiest boss also most unfun

[maiden crypt]

it too much rng

[analog summit]

well cyclops is easier

[maiden crypt]

and too many invuln phases

[analog summit]

0 rng actually but the main orb volley is stupid

[last scroll]

some things just never change wipe’s the only real reset lol

[fallow blaze]

for me banshee is extremely easy to kill, just too tedious for me to do it more then a few times

[floral pendant]

Original steam release damn you got me nostalgic now, yeah true but apparently theyve been able to track items for a bit now so maybe theyll be able to, ig well see.

[analog summit]

for me its the fact you do all that work and then the main orb volley touches you once and its over

[last scroll]

super easy fight just way too tedious to grind over and over

[floral pendant]

Technically they did with the ball dupe too and mentioned being able to track things in general so who knows

[last scroll]

ugh yeah 😭
all that effort just getting ruined by one unlucky orb hit is the worst lol

[analog summit]

spectral knight is a way cooler boss

[maiden crypt]

she did her dash i swear 7 times in a row on me just now

7 fucking times

[analog summit]

more fun for sure and when you get hit most of the time you dan recover

[tiny meteor]

the good ol'days

been doing a break for a while now just to come back and see this sht a week later, i guess some things never change...

[floral pendant]

But honestly at the end of the day everything doubling in gold really isnt the end of the world ngl, just makes religion easier and maybe makes gold storage a pain again but at least it is doubled now

[analog summit]

yea tbh more gold is whatever. i mean you get Bis gear on and then what? complain about being too rich?

[floral pendant]

End of last wipe and this wipe were actually so good up until this

[floral pendant]

Yeah as long as spec bags stay where they are and are able to be sold on market, market will be ok

Because ngl if trade post is screwed by spec bags being too expensive then market would be too

[acoustic plover]

inflation is due to duping according to player base

[floral pendant]

Its a mix, but if the devs are telling the truth then maybe the doubling in price of spec bags in 2 days was all people speculating

[acoustic plover]

what did devs say about it i havent seen anything on that

[floral pendant]

Which would be hilarious but i kind of doubt it because i have witnessed them going from 50k to 80k in seconds with someone buying pages of them

[sullen thorn]

What merchant can you craft cloacks through

[floral pendant]

New announcement makes it seem like there was little to no impact on economy but people are saying otherwise

[floral pendant]

Tailor

[sullen thorn]

ty

[sullen thorn]

Do you know what affinity>

[acoustic plover]

i miss empty lobbies without the 10 same people with 1-2 cheaters every match

[floral pendant]

Wait i might be tweaking let me make sure

[atomic raptor]

I mean i've been playing this wipe a lot so I was really aware of the market state, and and since friday, it got completely fucked up. spec bag and stuff were going up yes, but it was something like 19k to 23k in DAYS, then 23k to 90k in 4 days. I only heard about the dupe yesterday, but to me it make senses that is it the main reason, not speculation

[floral pendant]

Nvm def tailor not sure on affinity, but i know you need to do all of them to unlock the spectral cloak craft

[floral pendant]

All of the quests i mean

[sullen thorn]

Ow thats gona be alot of questing

[floral pendant]

True so who knows i just hope the dupers accounts and items are deleted so the market can go back to normal, because it will as long as they have actually fixed it and delete the items/gold they have.

[floral pendant]

And thousands of gold for the quest items if you dont find them (sadly would still be thousands without the dupe 💔)

[acoustic plover]

i mean it would resolve if troll pelt and spec fab was a 100% drop it should be with how much gold we make

[floral pendant]

Although i do kinda like the quest items being able to be sold and bought

[sullen thorn]

ya I got a decent amount of money so that dosnt bother me. Its the stupid ocean map that sucks

[floral pendant]

Lmao even if they didnt forever they could for a couple days and correct the market with it good idea

[sullen thorn]

Im just tryna craft spectral cloak there aint no good ones on the market

[floral pendant]

I like the map for the look of it and the bosses but getting around and looking for mobs is a pain like no other

[acoustic plover]

not even worth the craft cost tbh

[sullen thorn]

I got like 5 fabrics I just want good arena gear

[floral pendant]

Yeah i just bought one and prayed for maxroll sockets (gladly they were near)

[acoustic plover]

with 5 you could buy a bis pvp kit like all items lol

[sullen thorn]

ya Ive done it a few times keep low rolling its cheaper to craft rn

[sullen thorn]

I want arena kit

[acoustic plover]

same thing

[sullen thorn]

epics only

[acoustic plover]

there are better epic cloaks than spectral bro all im sayin

[sullen thorn]

Not really

[floral pendant]

Are speccloaks up? Last i checked they were 28k for unsocketed and fabrics were 30k, pelts 30k

[sullen thorn]

35k

[floral pendant]

Ah not too much ig

[acoustic plover]

spec fab and troll pelts both jump to 40k several times a day

[floral pendant]

Like wut

[acoustic plover]

im surprise people are selling gold bags for 10k under craft cost lol

[floral pendant]

Cause spec needs troll pelt and specs are used for artifact trades, bags arent rly

[sullen thorn]

spec cloak is def best epic, 19armor and 6stats

[acoustic plover]

bags take troll pelt and they are 10k less than the pelt alone it doesnt make sense

[floral pendant]

As long as ur not caster yeah best in the game, even 2will is almost 2 percent MDR and cooldown

[hardy stump]

people are stupid, more shocking news at 11

[sullen thorn]

even if u dont need the will its still 2 on rolls 1 more than any other cape

[floral pendant]

Because the spectral bags use troll pelt too, and specs are more in demand than bags by alot right now, possibly because of dupers buying them en masse, possibly because of speculation, possibly both, who knows.

[floral pendant]

Yeah that too lol so one more on roll, more armor rating and free mdr def best in the game

[floral pendant]

But even before that the cost was 2k less for a bag than the pelt alone, because people use spec for artifact trading

[gritty sorrel]

Imma sell the coin bag I have 👍

[acoustic plover]

nice list it for 20k ill buy any of them 🙂

[gritty sorrel]

Ill sell that and dump all the money to religion until I max it, then Ill buy some fun rare set for fighter and go fight people until I lose. Then ill wait for Wipe or Rollback

[golden viper]

Are the prices still Crazy since the Chest abuse or getting worse Even?

[gritty sorrel]

Ill sell it for 100 less than the lowest

[gritty sorrel]

Because of exploiters theres like a trillion % inflation

[atomic raptor]

not getting worse as of this morning

[outer grail]

i hate this coin dupe :(

ruining the wipe fr fr

[fleet glacier]

Could be worse if they announce a rollback

[outer grail]

THEY ABSOLUTLEY CANNOT MY TM8 GOT A NIPALAN AND I GRINDED 3 FABRICS IN ONE DAY OH HELL NO

[plain marlin]

So has this happened before in previous seasons? If it has how long until people get exhausted and stop talking about it?

[outer grail]

yea happened actually this season at the start

[fleet glacier]

I finally got a friend to play the game, he always hesitated. Just when he started to like the game, imagine if they deleted all of his progress

💀

Doing a rollback could be the worst case scenario (or another wipe), since they are wasting our time rn

[fallow blaze]

i am down for a wipe, and i am gonna lose millions of gold in current economy, its just shit to play where people have duped so much

[long garnet]

Rollback at best , but not fully wipe.

[vernal ferry]

what would a rollback even entail

[winged echo]

the only thing i'm down for is a permanent account and IP ban on people who are ruining the experience for the rest of us normal players.
cheaters, abusers, teamers, dogs, all of them perma banned, cause in a hardcore game there should be absolutely zero tolerance for any of those. You cant change my mind.

[fallow blaze]

if its gonna be a week+ rollback just wipe

[fallow blaze]

i agree

[livid olive]

wish they would tell us something they are planning since its pointless to play rn incase of that

[fallow blaze]

"transparency"

btw

[livid olive]

its wild they are monitoring this for last what week and havent told us to stop wasting our time earning things thats gonna be taken away

[gritty sorrel]

Their definetly gonna do a rollback

Like 100% chance judging from the announcment

[brittle wing]

if they don't this wipe is done for

[gritty sorrel]

Spend all your stuff in great gear and enjoy now when it doesnt matter if theres gonna be a rollback anyway

[gritty sorrel]

They have to

[livid olive]

or just be transparent and tell us what is happening

[gritty sorrel]

Either they remove like atleast 50% of everyones gold or we get a rollback or a wipe

[livid olive]

semi wipe is only way

[fallow blaze]

removing gold doesn't help at all

[livid olive]

otherwise so many ppl gonna quit

[gritty sorrel]

Would help with the inflation

[fallow blaze]

dupers already bought artefacts/bags/chests

[unreal wharf]

does magic heal help with potion chugger

[gritty sorrel]

Right I forgto they can just do that....

Remove all Artefacts, Bags, Chests and Gold. Wait no that wouldent help either....

Uuuuuuuh

Idk glad im not a dev

[fallow blaze]

just wipe

[gritty sorrel]

Yea I agree

Full wipe, lets restart the season

(someone fucking blocked me for saying this earlier 😭

[acoustic plover]

blocked

:p

lol

[floral pendant]

The announcement makes it seem like the dupe had either zero/small impact how would that make it seem like they will do a rollback lmfao

[fallow blaze]

dupers be duping

[gritty sorrel]

Nuuuu 😭

[gritty sorrel]

Yea I got the same feeling

Theres prolly gonna be a rollback and we get a season with slight inflation

[floral pendant]

Idk if they DO ban the accounts and wipe their gold/items the market will correct anyways, people will sell specs with an 8k trade fee while people farm them, people dont need much gold storage and artifacts will take more spec bags to buy

[floral pendant]

And either way everything doubled in price, makes religion easier, gold storage harder, but honestly does not change much. Items have changed in price during wipes and between wipes so much throughout the years.

[patent badger]

I just spawned inside of a shark in HR

[floral pendant]

So a rollback or wipe would be pointless IMO because alot of ppl will def leave, like they have in the past

That is as long as they have fixed the dupe, because if it gets pretty much any more out of hand a rollback would be needed because specs wouldnt be on market so trading for artifacts would be screwed

[vernal ferry]

i completed religion for the first time this season no cheating no nothing 😭😭 i usually dont try that hard in this game

[lone nymph]

yea bruv i didnt spend 3 weeks of ssf generating wealth for a rollback (and farming afterwards, pelts specs bags spec bags artis)

[floral pendant]

W

[floral pendant]

Noone is doing it again a couple weeks later and before all quests are even out, people might not even want to re-do a couple days of work. Thats the main reason why a rollback or wipe wouldnt be beneficial at all

Mfs will leave just like they have in the past

[lone nymph]

just rollback a week or days

[floral pendant]

Anything more than like 48 hours from now would make a ton of people leave ngl, this was the barrier for the first huntress quest completion among much else and this community doesnt really stick around

For the chest*^

[lone nymph]

huntress is the smallest of everyones' concern bruv its like 6 new quests

[gritty sorrel]

Their prolly honna roll back like a week or two at most

[floral pendant]

Why would they roll back tho, if every offender is banned what is the huge issue with everything being 2X the price? Gold storage a bit harder maybe?

And either way market would slowly correct itself too

[gritty sorrel]

The issue of money being harder to grind😭

[floral pendant]

It is easier, you get one troll pelt, spec fabric, or mysterious potion/tear on HR and you have 5 HR kits

[gritty sorrel]

Im not good enough to get those. I can kill troll, but then I have to fight the entire server for that one Pelt

Only way I can reliably make a good Amount of money is Faustian Bargain. I fucking love it

[floral pendant]

Go on HR and kill dreadspines. They are a subboss and drop the mysterious potion there worth 30K+

[gritty sorrel]

cough Where do those spawn?

[stone panther]

prison and throne are guaranteed, doom cage can have one too (or 2 other sub bosses)

[gritty sorrel]

Uhm. Where are those?

[floral pendant]

Inferno, the module where skull key used to/prob still spawns, prison, and theres a 1/3 in the freaky room with the ghouls and the middle section you open

[sullen thorn]

hell cryps

[gritty sorrel]

Imma have to dig up a map from somewhere. TY

[lone nymph]

my guy we are sooo deep in this shi you probably have duuped gold in your inventory right now

its no longer ssf, everything is in the market

[floral pendant]

Either everyone does and noone does, gold is deleted and spawned in with market essentially

[nocturne hound]

why is there no good loot on market i have so much gold but no good arena gear

[gritty sorrel]

Sum1 needs to start duping and buying items for a lot of money, then sell them at normal prices to force the market down

[nocturne hound]

real lmao

[floral pendant]

Ye only worth it on HR sadly you can get them on norms i think but it has to be like one percent

[lone nymph]

what?

[gritty sorrel]

How much is it in HR?

[subtle goblet]

5% norms 10% hr

[lone nymph]

chances out of your ass

[floral pendant]

WHERE DO YOU FIND THIS INFORMATION THEY SAY NOTHING NOWHERE TO NOONE

[stone panther]

has been data mined brov. All on wiki

[subtle goblet]

i'm part of the wiki discord you noob, maybe learn more about the game

[floral pendant]

Bro update the dam wiki then lmao

[subtle goblet]

i'm part of the discord not part of the wiki team

[lone nymph]

start working then lazy ahh

[floral pendant]

Jk but thx for lmk

[lone nymph]

update the wiki

[subtle goblet]

holy gutter trash

[lone nymph]

no proof no statement

[next ginkgo]

Remove gear from the marketplace

[silent spruce]

if i drink a potion then equip a weapon with magic healing does the magic healing on the weapon apply

or does it only care about the ammount of magic healing you have when you drink the potion

[nocturne hound]

its when the buff is applied

so on potion drink

[silent spruce]

ok so its pretty much useless unless you got a cleric or druid healing you while ur weapon is out

[gritty sorrel]

Oh cool ty! Where can one join the discord for more info?

[subtle goblet]

i'll dm you

[gritty sorrel]

Tyyy

[subtle goblet]

npnp

[tough plume]

idk how but do you still get your stuff back from goblin merch?

in HR?