game-discussion

[long hornet]

I saw a few 323s, no 333s yet

[floral pendant]

Gotcha

[final marsh]

farm the mats an make one! or do pile runs on HR watermap! ive pulled 5 off that map in the past 3 days

[edgy sable]

Maybe if I get one I can sell it for 100k

[long hornet]

I sold like 6 at 14k thinking it was a steal when I bought them for 10k 😭 didn’t expect… this…

[floral pendant]

I almost wanna buy the pretty cheap 22k 3agi but it has 1s socketed and isnt even rly an upgrade to mine 💔

[final marsh]

its the gold doupers! market is ROCKED! just be a normal human and sell it respectively for like 20k no reason we need to add to the fire lol

[floral pendant]

Tanglethreads dont exist i swear to god why did you remind me i still need them

[sonic maple]

I hate you exploiters I'll krill you all

[floral pendant]

Respect

[long hornet]

Yeahhh. Just getting them I’ll lose a good amount of stats. But it would be nice to have a pair I thought it was 5% when attacking never took the time to read them. First wipe that ms is ass for casters

[stone panther]

sold a pair last week for like 4k I think they were like 25 yesterday

[long hornet]

5 pages of them, just a lot are mid

[edgy sable]

imagine gold duper man just buying them all and selling them right to the vendor so the price inflates

"ill be the only one in arena with tangle threads!"

[final marsh]

yup! Exactly @edgy sable

[long hornet]

You can buy them for 6k…

[floral pendant]

Ive been looking for 3agi3strength tangles for the entire wipe man its not just the dupe 💔

[final marsh]

They need to just set a limit on each item! at like 50k max! an market wouldnt be so insane

[edgy sable]

I better be quiet then, these gold dupers might not have the high meta techniques Im thinking of

I wouldev wiped out the minor artifact market entirely

[long hornet]

I saw a Timmy fighter with 3 ago 3 str 2 dex in arenas. Gotta be rmt, bis kit but he played like a bot

[floral pendant]

Wildness ngl

[vast coral]

Im speculating something about the current situation. Maybe IM is letting the things ongoin to mass ban people that are abusing in any aspect, they could be tracking mules etc and deleting as much unlegit things, and once they will assume its enough maybe they will take an action like rewiping or just letting the economy fix by itself

[long hornet]

I’d give my left nut for a 333 caster pair.

[idle whale]

Me and my friend almost killed a duo with full legendaries and we were in squire high roller, that's when I knew immediately there's some weird shit going on

[long hornet]

Tbf, comp and working together trumps gear in a lot of situations. Gear means way less now with the ms and hp changes

[wicked spear]

Ive been killed by a teamkiller named AFate like 5 times now in acouple hours. why. and why can i not report him, his name and the other teammate he killed isnt on my karma page

[long hornet]

Don’t leave the game early

You have to stay until they die or extract

[wicked spear]

i have to wait for him to die. after he killed me?

[long hornet]

Yeah. Its kinda dumb

[lyric bough]

If I'm PDR capped, does Undead Damage Reduction do anything?

[woeful plume]

Gotta love it when people think gear wins fights. They'll figure out it takes gear and knowledge. lol

[snow bobcat]

anyone know if loot given to the express man counts towards AP?

[idle whale]

I mean I got a lot of hours but were not super good by any means, these were def some timmies RMTing I feel like

[wicked spear]

super fucking lame

they just need to remove the karma system and suspend team killers emmediately

[surreal terrace]

could be chinese players run into a few of them while they’re juiced and they’re mid players

[wicked spear]

no maybe he will get punished, they should get punished EVERYTIME

[edgy sable]

bro u can accidently kill someone 😄

[long hornet]

Gear isn’t very expensive. I doubt buying gold would even be that expensive. But if you’re a good player, a gear gap means little on a lot of classes. People just look for something to blame instead of learning from mistakes so they blame gear

[wicked spear]

like csgo

[fickle rapids]

troll pelt chance reduced ?

[wicked spear]

you can kill a team mate once or twice

but if its to often boom

suspended

[surreal terrace]

so give everyone a free teamkill

[clever hull]

Spectral fabric chance increased?

[surreal terrace]

ah

[wicked spear]

right now its more then one free team kill?

[woeful plume]

I don't understand what 'team killers' means. If three people in solo's meet up in a module, do they pow wow and see which two fight first or is it a melee situation where ya, you get teamed up on.

[wicked spear]

then can repetetively kill you.

if you rematch with then

[edgy sable]

welll i agreew ith that because, once i accidently hit a guy in arena and he reported me and instantly got a red name. and when you have red name people can then KILL YOU for free, which is dumb af as well.

[trim fern]

is druid cooked now shapeshiftring time is buns now

[wicked spear]

like AFAte did to me 5 times in 2 hours

[wicked spear]

trios qeue

[long hornet]

I think you get 2 tks. But they need to remove the red name system, people use it to kill their teammates because they think it looks cool

[wicked spear]

they need to suspend team killers fuck the red name

[woeful plume]

So you mean, one team kills your team? Or do you mean more than one team combined to kill your team?

[edgy sable]

suspend team killers? bro we're all wondering if they will ban dupers

[long hornet]

I’ve gotten multiple tks on wiz or sorc from people just walking into stuff. Shit happens sometimes honestly

[edgy sable]

best situation maybe

[grand verge]

lmfao

[long hornet]

Or an explo and your teammate just runs at them

[wicked spear]

theres a difference in a teammate dying and your teammate killing you

i just wanted to spread awareness

See "AFate" in dark red, kos

[long hornet]

Explo can count as a team kill regardless the system doesn’t judge. People are petty, I’ve hard carried in arena and still got team kill penalty

[woeful plume]

Ok, you mean the bungholios that log in on your team and kill all the other members of his team. I got it.

[wicked spear]

glad i didnt have to spell it out for you

[woeful plume]

Words are important sometimes, ngl.

[pure trout]

spectral bag prices are dropping finally?

the world is healing

[fair lance]

does anyone know what 3str, 3vig rubysilver barbuda would cost

[sage stratus]

around 3k

[fair lance]

on market there is only 2 and 2 rolls 😄

[pure trout]

maybe around 20k+

[surreal terrace]

duper probably went to bed will go back at night probably

[pure trout]

i mean theres 2 str 2 vig for 5-6k

[pure trout]

i hope prices just stay reasonable

[pure trout]

if you get a 2 agility roll on that helmet its easy 30k

[sonic maple]

More than 100k

[pure trout]

😭

dont listen to mad

[steady valve]

I think there is a law of "woo-woo" going on related to the dupe and specific pricings.

I believe a lot of pricing currently particularly those correlated with coin bags and chests is due to these pieces now being the replacement for Deathblooms while natural post-SSF inflation and incremental price scaling has been generally on par with what has been expected for this stage of the wipe.

[trim fern]

what map has the most pvp for solos and duos is it still goblin caves

[sonic maple]

I think he wants to buy it

[pure trout]

Yeah gob

[pure trout]

brother for 100k ill buy a juicy golden hounskull with +1 all atr

[wintry lantern]

Just play castle and go bridge, though thats a fuckfest

The faustians are brutal on goblin cave

[pure trout]

theres plenty better options than rubysilver barbuta

[sonic maple]

Can't use that in arena

[pure trout]

fair

[wintry lantern]

Bro this market is awful

Its so bad antiquated coins are going for 900. Literally turned into real life bitcoin lmao

[sonic maple]

Epic is worth more than legendary because of the weekend SUBgamemode

[pure trout]

I was thinking bout HR

[trim fern]

whats a good purple kit go for i just started playing again this season

[wintry lantern]

Yeah, and rare are more valuable than epics because of the normals restriction

[jovial viper]

who is crafting those troll ring of wisdom rings with phys power and phys damage bonus 😭

[trim fern]

wait legendary kits are cheaper than epic

[wintry lantern]

Depends what you play. Ive been playing dex/agi/armor pen slayer fighter and fire wizard

[sonic maple]

Because of the SUBgamemode where you can run them infinitely because screw extraction games

[wintry lantern]

My arena kit for wizard was like 24k after all everything, friend on PDR fighter is 30k. Mostly due to the BIS helmet I found

[sonic maple]

Imagine playing an extraction game

[wintry lantern]

Fucking +3 STR +3 DEX +3AGI

Most of the kit is the helmet

Purple kits are only valuable due to Arena though, since theres low value in running them in HR when everyone is running around in all +9 uniques

Imo there should probably be a limit to uniques

[jovial bluff]

Guys regular interaction speed also helps with mining right?

[sand sedge]

Yes

[floral pendant]

PEOPLE STILL DOING THE DUPE SPEC BAGS GOING FROM 50K TO 80K

[jovial viper]

it was at 80-90k for 2days now

[clever hull]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-no-way-shocked-gif-15301884

[floral pendant]

because of the dupe, if it was solved people wouldnt be instantly making spec bags go from 50k to 80k with 3 pages of them in 2 minutes

[hollow quail]

@steady valve duping vid pops up on recommended yt and its all over reddit
prices of bags went up in 3 days from 20k to 100k and you want to say its bc of dbs? okay bud

[agile timber]

Uni's are cool and all but I feel like a good non unique kit is better just for the fact of having a "quality" build over specialized builds. Maybe a piece or two is "broken" but all unique kind of becomes trash in stat checks

[jovial viper]

even if they fix dupe the price wont drop overnight, there is too much gold in circulation already

[plain marlin]

ok i am back, did you guys finally cope with DupeQuest or we still talkin about it?

[floral pendant]

true but a duper just bought 3 pages of specs making them go from 50k to 80k, not natural XD

[stone panther]

7am in Bejing, the cycle is starting again.

[hollow quail]

but it could fix itself in a couple weeks max if they ban the accs but prob wont happen lets be honest theres a big market for you know what

[floral pendant]

OH NO UR RIGHT

[sonic dove]

at least its just gold being duped, ban the offenders and give everyone some free bags and prices will normalize I think

[tepid storm]

bro i hate it, the game can go so well, but is ALWAYS AN ISSUE, now is the duping, my god, Ironmace, please, stop being this lazy, it isnt a bad game but u guys keep letting these things happen, its crazy, and dont give me the "early access" bs xd the game is waaaay beyond that already

[floral pendant]

according to how its been in other MMOs, as long as they actually fix it (which they havent yet) market wil normalize by itself as long as the dupe doesnt stay much longer

[toxic apex]

I hope they don’t do a rollback. Over the last couple of days, I got three sets worth at least 7K ready for arena. I don’t want to lose them.

[tepid storm]

the damage is done xd, same goes for the pebbles incident xd, that didnt destroyed the season cause it was too early to have bags (sadly people still bought the 1k bags and cheated the economy xd)

[floral pendant]

i pulled a pulv with a friend and did some good trades and finally have a trident to run, praying they dont too, ill def give up for this wipe

[sonic dove]

yea I remember a massive gold dupe in diablo 3 around launch and it corrected itself pretty quickly

[west wadi]

I finished my cutlass collection
They can't roll back

[hollow quail]

its def recoverable but knowing plastic spoon they prob not going to fix it the way we would like

[floral pendant]

yep, and wow, runescape etc, and they have to deal with many more dupers than IM does

[toxic apex]

What will you do now that you have all the cutlasses?

[west wadi]

Not use them

:D

[tepid storm]

a rollback could be the healthiest thing for the game tbh .-. we are waay into the wipe and people cheating the whole economy like this just make people mad, more than a setback for players that got some legitimate progress

[west wadi]

360 unique cutlasses

[floral pendant]

itd cut player count in half for the rest of the wipe i doub it

[sonic dove]

I think a rollback would be much more disruptive

[west wadi]

It is the staple of economics
It's like gold before Americas economy hit the fan

[floral pendant]

not for the games population, every rollback in the past has destroyed player count

[surreal terrace]

just switch it to multiclassing why not wipes already cooked

[agile timber]

I like the way you think

[tepid storm]

i know, but we cant count on Ironmace fixing these issues, the economy is already cooked, people overselling bags or items for 10x times the price is kinda stupid i think xd

[vapid oyster]

add quake movement

[sonic rune]

do you know if gobbo merchant service works if i exited but went straight back in?

[sonic dove]

in the meantime you can farm and sell stuff for inflated prices and sell your bags at inflated prices. just use the small 1k pouches

[toxic apex]

I think they made it so the goblin keeps stuff for three days now. So you should be good

[slim tulip]

i think it will work if you didn't picked anything and the lobby ends

[west wadi]

Just buy tears and wait until the quest drops

They'll increase in price by double probably

[sonic rune]

ok bcz im still waiting and i logged out for 2min after the game then came back

[tepid storm]

i think they should just cut all peoples gold to a max xd in a rounded way between all players, like the rounded number could be 15 to 20k gold? yup, just put all players with that amount of gold, some dupers are going to cry, and some people would say they had more without duping but meh, tough sh, the market would stabilize like that

[subtle latch]

no

[west wadi]

Huh?
That's like
The worst plan I've ever heard

So much so I can't tell if it's rage bait

[placid sierra]

halo any tips with the login button of the blakcsmith launcher lmao ?

[pure trout]

what...

never let bro cook again

[long hornet]

Anyone got some caster tanglethreads I can buy?

[hushed oriole]

what drops sturdy cloth?

[jovial viper]

on the shelves in ice lake module

[hushed oriole]

ty

[jovial viper]

arent they super cheap in the market though? havent checked in a while

since everyone finished that quest already

[dark thorn]

i dont think you can turn in purchased items

[jovial viper]

u can in this season

[dark thorn]

oh worrd

[frosty knot]

Who drops DB this wipe?

[pure trout]

spectral coinbags are going up again 🥀

[edgy sable]

the great city awakens

7:43 a.m.
Thursday, March 5, 2026 (GMT+8)
Time in China

[pure trout]

okay this is stupid

someone just dmed me the method and it has to be easy for ironmace to track this

like ban them alr

[floral pendant]

🇨🇳

[floral pendant]

david duke

[zinc fossil]

so this wipe's a bust. great

[floral pendant]

more like a bust in your pants cause you can get one spectral fabric and buy 3 HR kits

[agile grove]

Are they going to backroll servers or early wipe with current gold dupe going on ?

[floral pendant]

probably not the game dies every time theyve rolled back or early wiped in the past

[brave kelp]

wiat what happened ?????

[agile timber]

Yeah early wipe/semi wipe and it's cooked rollback not so much

[stray minnow]

you syill looking for ss?

[lavish dock]

why is troll pelts more then a bag

[floral pendant]

every rollback has been -2k players at least because noone wants to play catchup with themself for a week

[unreal rampart]

anyone knows spectral fabric drop rate?

[floral pendant]

troll pelt makes spectral bag and spectral bag is more than 2 bags

[floral pendant]

also gear crafts for arena

[agile grove]

Crazy that Devs known about the dupe for days and still haven't done anything about it 🫠 🤣

[floral pendant]

theyve been banning alot of separate people ive seen, but not doing emergency maintenance or trying to fix it first day is wild

[agile grove]

Yep might as well make artifacts 100% spawn everywhere this wipe 🤣

[sonic dove]

Has Iron Mace made a public statement?

[floral pendant]

thatd be kinda fire ngl

[agile timber]

Yeah it's pinned in tavern

[pure trout]

barbarians should be able to use halberds

[floral pendant]

yes but no balance wise

[pure trout]

wdym

[long hornet]

Barb should of been nerfed a few times by now

Barb mains just braindead and don’t get it

[pure trout]

halberds are super easy to parry dont count as axes so perk doesnt apply

its just bardiches are so bad and people dont realise it

A double axe is better 70%

[floral pendant]

wild statement bardiche is the best barb weapon, top ranked arena team uses it lol

[flat forum]

So nothing new on gold dupes lol. Let the gold sellers make their money and give iron hammer their cut lol

[pure trout]

bardiche is horrible

try a double axe for once

super nice swing good riposte

[floral pendant]

reckless and rage small nerf but its not as bad as its been in the past

[pure trout]

and its super good in close quarters

[pure trout]

reckless is a hit or miss so i think it should stay the same

[long hornet]

They have too much ms potential, and iron will needs changed.

[pure trout]

it basically gives you -30% pdr for +75% pen

[floral pendant]

100% opinion bardiche is better at high rank than double axe, maybe in norms lobbies with less action speed double axe might be better

[long hornet]

90% of what you find in solos is barbs. Always a barb in duos trios

[floral pendant]

but in high rank arena and HR bardiche is better in both solos and trios

[long hornet]

Just braindead easy class atm

[pure trout]

bards*

just play fighter to kill the barbs

[long hornet]

Bards are useless. Fighter is just as braindead

[floral pendant]

gotta agree with this one half of all my lobbies in solos are bards

[long hornet]

Not playing either of those dog classes

[pure trout]

bards are the strongest solo class imo

they are good at range with surv bow

[floral pendant]

what class u play?

[long hornet]

Literally hide around a corner. You one shot bards

[subtle goblet]

not like they have an announcements channel nah nah that doesn't exist

[mortal adder]

where do i find like the lingo for the trading post

[long hornet]

Lately sorc, before wiz

[pure trout]

have you heard of parry

playing sorc is wild

[subtle goblet]

We are in a Ba Sing Se situation fr

[floral pendant]

fireball crutch wizard is 10X more braindead than fighter IMO

[long hornet]

Facts. Nerfed 3 weeks in a row, 0 warlords. Fun time

[pure trout]

i was highroller as barb and just killed teamers and then a geared sorc pulls up

[long hornet]

I agree. They need to nerf fireball explo and make 10 spell meta. Don’t like the fire crutch no skill wizards

[pure trout]

theres 0% chance to beat an experienced sorc

you simply cant reach them

even with iron will

[long hornet]

? Iron will… just a key…

[floral pendant]

fr wizard is so cool at high skill level and then you have the guy fireballing the ground still doing good damage XD

[pure trout]

ironwill doesnt work on some spells

also slowdown from ice are also devastating

[long hornet]

Only levitate and frost lightning. Which are easily dodge able, and the whole combo doesn’t kill you

[floral pendant]

parry ice bolts easiest projectile parry in the game

[long hornet]

And high cds

[surreal terrace]

lightning sphere kiting

[floral pendant]

oh you mean sorc lmfao

[pure trout]

bardiche says no

[long hornet]

I’ve saw Morty and foxman both die in full leggos to squire barbs g. Its 100% in Barb favor

[floral pendant]

not if you have 20 francisca axes lmfao

[pure trout]

they were juicy so i had to drop my loot 🙁

so my right sidebar got taken up by surg prot and torch

[agile timber]

There is no war

[floral pendant]

in arenas its ranger, in solos is barb, in trios and duos is druid/warlock combo, but ig there will always be one class better than others lol

[long hornet]

Sorc has long cds, they’re skillshots, and a full combo won’t kill you. Just side strafe and w key. You’ll kill 99% of Sorcs with ease

[pure trout]

2/10 ragebait

[floral pendant]

and only 1/50 sorcs are actually good unless ur on high rank HR or arena

[pure trout]

exemplary 2 sorc shook me down for everything

rip 80k kit

[long hornet]

Exactly. Less than 5% of the playerbase is sorc and literally 0 warlord sorcs in arenas. The only class without one. People see a macro sorc hit all their skillshots for a few thousand hours of experience in bis kit and think it’s op

[strong swan]

how does ranger fight a druid

[floral pendant]

if you play corners the sorc will have to end up running away or u kill them, could try using achilles too

[long hornet]

Watching fighter or barb fights is like watching paint dry. Its so plain and boring

[long hornet]

Barbs are always faster too

[fading elk]

Does magical healing scale with Bloodthirst?

[floral pendant]

longbow until theyre close, spear when they are. suprisingly easy to parry a panther with a spear.

[pure trout]

how is there not being a warlord sorc an argument for it being not good?

[floral pendant]

no only based on ur on-hit dmg

[pure trout]

Sorc is just great in solos / duos but in trios it might be ahh

[fading elk]

preciate it

[pure trout]

also its not a very popular class compared to fighter so obv theres more fighter warlords

[floral pendant]

nah its pretty good everywhere rn, id almost say its worse spot is solos

[long hornet]

Because arena meta goes into dungeons. You see a shit ton of heal Druids, and rangers now that you didn’t before. Its not popular, because its hard to learn and other classes are way easier

[pure trout]

tbh i think its best in solos

[long hornet]

Solos is all iron will barbs

[subtle goblet]

more like there is no dupe lmao

[long hornet]

It hard counters you

[pure trout]

cuz iron will is good

[long hornet]

Iron will is broken and needs gone

[floral pendant]

nerf ironwill buff achilles make barb skilled

[long hornet]

Disarm was a thing for 2 weeks, got destroyed. Silence the same for casters and can be used at range, is still in the game.

[long hornet]

Make Achilles last for 6 seconds and only trigger from Francisca

So they gotta think

[pure trout]

the amount of teamers in solos is sickening

[floral pendant]

thad actually work well if they nerfed ironwill, alot more glass-cannony and a sorc could still outplay it with ice shield or tp

same with wiz and fireballs

[long hornet]

Just make iron will avoid 50% of knockback. Still a counter but not completely destroy half of sorc kit. Giving mdr and no knockback is overkill

[floral pendant]

tru

[long hornet]

They already have the highest hp, and one shot most classes in squire, while being able to be the fastest class with 40+ pdr in squire

[quasi juniper]

is ther an audio bug going around there was a barb in my same module like 2 bardihce lengths away and i didnt hear him

[long hornet]

It’s just braindead easy.

[quasi juniper]

glad i got out of the map before the portal closed

[zealous mortar]

Yo guys what is the maximum arena rank point difference that you can have to still play with friends?

[long hornet]

380

[lime verge]

Are spectral bags gunna stop at 100k :p

[slender turret]

is the max rep with weaponsmith 75?

[nocturne urchin]

Depends, did they fix the dupe yet?

[lime verge]

Duping causes prices to drop... what are we stupid

[hollow quail]

not when they buy everything and re list. not the brightest crayon are ya

[frosty coyote]

Economics is NOT that guys strong suit

[pallid hemlock]

right. prices skyrocketed as they usually do atp

[nocturne urchin]

Not when you only dupe gold with your friends and buy everything

[frosty coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-hes-right-you-know-correct-true-right-gif-27174315

[pale ivy]

does dark offering affect healing?

[agile timber]

The irony with this

[lime verge]

🙂

[hollow quail]

terrible bait bruh

[agile timber]

Yeah was a nice laugh I figured it was tbh

[honest cedar]

there is absolutely no reason to play anything other than Barb

• this game is so bad right now

[hollow quail]

you could have fun

see my baits wayyy better

[quaint crest]

luck is broken right?

[hollow quail]

it works as intended according to the overlords

[warm locust]

does anybody know why the gold coin bags are selling for less than the troll pelts?

[hollow quail]

tri pelt doublet

[warm locust]

lmao

[subtle heart]

Some ppl say it’s op if that’s what you mean

Jk

Yeah it doesn’t do anything

[pure trout]

luck doesnt work

luck only works in normals and from there only up to 150 as far as I know

the story goes that luck was super broken at one point so it got nerfed to the ground by iron mace and they havent touched it since

[hollow quail]

watch the glocktane video

[subtle heart]

Was it really broken? How is that possible when you’re giving up stats used for fighting?

[pure trout]

you get rich

like so broken that people would get chests regularly

[subtle heart]

And what would they pull?

It’s fine if you don’t know I get the point

[edgy sable]

idk about that story, as far as i know they have always been unsure if it worked or not lmao

like what it exactly did is never known because they dont like to tell us what exactly stuff does ever

[last basin]

ANYONE KNOW WHEN THE VALENTINE QUEST WILL DISAPPEAR AND THEY WILL MOVE TOT HE NEXT ? I HAVE 5 OF THE 10 ROSES FOR THE 3 BAGS BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESNT GO AWAY BEFORE I GET IT

[edgy sable]

just buy a bag for 80k

[hollow quail]

[last basin]

thats why i want them just to sell them lol

[edgy sable]

haha i figured, sorry im useles idk when he leaves

[hollow quail]

same but i got 6 flowers

[brave kelp]

yo the goblin didnt give me loot back in the pve mode ???

[subtle heart]

You just have to wait

For the dungeon to close

All levels

[brave kelp]

thanks gang

[edgy sable]

yea can take like 15minutes sometimes

[patent badger]

I looted a Gold Coin Bag? how rare is that? from a treasure hoard in HR

[lyric quail]

have they said anything about the gold exploits and what they plan on doing about it?

[subtle heart]

One team member said it’s contained and exaggerated

[lyric quail]

well they cant mean that cause its certainly neither of those

[subtle heart]

These devs are too afraid to man up and fix their mistakes

[lyric quail]

gold bags are 80k lmao exaggerated is a statement

guess they can just let it ride and let ppl that know have infinite gold

[tepid sorrel]

https://imgur.com/a/sB82Y8U xd

[subtle goblet]

They are trying to play the PR game but people are seeing through it

[idle whale]

SSF was fun while it lasted, till the Chinese invaded

[lyric quail]

just need two chests and you can create 25k gold every 5 sec if you can store it

so it does make sense

[stoic rover]

I hope they ban all abusers like at the start of the wipe - just ruining the game for the rest of us

[subtle heart]

I’m getting all worked up about people exploiting, I need to just keep doing PvP and dying because I have a skill issue

[pure trout]

i had a barb in my HR round swinging his axe like 4 times a second

[edgy sable]

dw thats a skill they put in called 'whirldwind'

[sonic dove]

BIS gear

[subtle heart]

I wouldn’t call anyone a hacker as a noob, what I meant by hackers was exploiters farming infinite money

[pure trout]

no im being fr

[last basin]

3.7k in dugeon i think were cooked this wipe again....... wow the player base destroying its own game

[pure trout]

he had like 300% actionspeed

he walked up to people with the axe to farm wood i think and just hit them 10x in the head

[floral pendant]

player base aka a couple of chinese dudes

[subtle heart]

You should have recorded it, there never seems to be any evidence of this alleged hackers

[pure trout]

it was the first I've ever seen

since 2022

[subtle goblet]

a small portion of the playerbase*

[last basin]

sadly thats all it takes, they need to rollback the game and even then the player count is still going to be hurting from this

[subtle heart]

Well they’re having fun, they shouldn’t be responsible for the dev’s incompetence

[subtle goblet]

its a lose lose situation unfortunately

[last basin]

this has to be a rage bait no other way

[edgy sable]

Idk if you've heard but they have it under control and have known about it for days

[subtle goblet]

There is no dupe in ba sing se

[last basin]

5 steps forward 10 steps back for the IM devs

[strong dawn]

same type a guy to say if anti cheat doesnt stop cheating then tis the dev fault

[fading elk]

My power just went out I had my bloodthirst in a adventure game just to test it out and as soon as the blues are available to open my power turns off how much time do I have to collect from goblin for when the raid ends

[edgy sable]

unless they are planning to mass ban ppl im a little confused why not close the market immediately until fixed, ppl would still play with market being broken ( i mean its basically not working right now)

[ebon mantle]

can the ore for the jeweler quest be bought does it have to be found

[reef thicket]

guys there is a guy named ORI71 in ALL my goblin cave lobbies and he goes in the troll room to place like 100 traps

[long hornet]

You don’t get it back in adventure.

[subtle heart]

If cheating was actually satisfying I’d do it tbh

[keen gust]

hour?

[fading elk]

According to PG@E it won’t be back on for another 30

[jovial viper]

there are 3 days to pick up items now, they changed it

[long hornet]

They said in a patch a week or two ago they were increasing goblin merchant time

[jovial viper]

you dont have to worry about your bt

[queen night]

is there a quest this season that has a gold coin chest in it yet?

[subtle goblet]

its 3 days now

iirc

[fading elk]

Thank you for the info usually goblin gives you your shit back at a price in adventure no?

[queen night]

besides the huntress

[long hornet]

No idea, I’ve never died in adventure.

[fading elk]

Money is NOT a problem if it means I get that back

[edgy sable]

damn thats a nice QoL if true

[brittle barn]

Yall remember when it was such a big deal that u could spawn in other ppls spawns so the devs got rid of it? That shits been back this whole wipe and no1 seems to care this time..?

[jovial viper]

artifact is 1k so basically free in comparison to what it's worth, youll get all of it back unless you wont get in within 72 hours

[edgy sable]

back in the good ol days of non continuous dungeon when you could slowly eliminate everyone and have teh dungeon to yourself

[pure trout]

i always spawn in their spawn when they die

so i wont say no to a free kit

[fading elk]

It’s 72 hours?? Fuck yeah I’m good hopefully I ran it with a expensive kit too so hopefully I have enough and if not I can sell a spec bag

[brittle barn]

I spawn in peoples spawn, follow their path, and find them within 30s like 25% of my games

[jovial viper]

even if you ran all uniques it'd be like 5k tops maybe

[pure trout]

wdym

[crimson jackal]

What do you guys think will happen with the gold dupe? Rollback? Stash wipe? Or nothing?

[queen night]

is there a quest this season that has a gold coin chest in it yet? besides the huntress missions

[fading elk]

Preciate it dude yeah it was like legendary rings full unique everywhere else

[last basin]

i have done all of them so far and no there isnt

[pure trout]

i hate way more that the game wants you to think you got a "fresh round" when its like 13 min already and theres nothing in the top right corner

[jovial viper]

i was refering to goblin merchant prices for item recovery

[pure trout]

makes sense

was thinking since when are artifacts 1k

[edgy sable]

"We're rewiping!"

[brittle barn]

Yeah this is the slowest response I think they've ever had to a dupe

[atomic raptor]

make a few skin buyable with gold ?

[edgy sable]

except they did tolerate those guys getting new accounts and then playing again, literally on stream!

[long hornet]

Hopefully they nerf fighter barb and heals. I’d be cool with a new wipe then

[agile timber]

Yeah like I am currently doing selling off everything at 3x normal market price

[subtle goblet]

Funnily enough probably an ironmace ploy ngl lol

[floral pendant]

why are they doing nothing?????? spectral bags go from 60k to 85k and pages get sold out at once, not slowly. clearly dupers buying them still abusing the bug.

[atomic raptor]

actualy not a bad idea, if acc that duped get banned

[long hornet]

Fish bite easily when they don’t see the hook

[vague quest]

religion

[long hornet]

I mean, anyone could do that… not just streamers. Anyone banned shouldn’t have done it to begin with

[atomic raptor]

100k not enough anymore

[subtle goblet]

i think with all the duped gold all these people have done religion 10x over at the bare minimum haha

in like an hour lmao

[long hornet]

Religion rewards ass anyway. Skin rework. Yay

[edgy sable]

Yea unfortunately

[subtle goblet]

man this shit sucks

[vague quest]

i finished religion like day 2 so idk

[floral pendant]

skins good for a rogue i guess lmfao

[subtle goblet]

they can dupe 1mil gold in an hour

[vague quest]

yeah ik

[long hornet]

Still no resource skin or mem cap skin or magical heal but give melees more skins!

[stark condor]

I cant fucking compete with these scumbag dupers man why is everything so fucking inflated

[floral pendant]

true if any of those were -agility theyd be balanced so idk why they havent lmao

[floral pendant]

farm spectral fabric +35k

[subtle goblet]

you answered your own question, because of the dupers

[stark condor]

just to build a mid kit and get rolled

[long hornet]

Just using anything but knowledge is a massive nerf to casters in low gear. Lose out on spells don’t even need a negative fr

[stark condor]

😭

[jovial viper]

as long as you are not running artifacts it doesnt really affect you, legendary kits only slightly went up

[long hornet]

Then skill issue? You can kill geared players in squire

[jovial viper]

assuming you have enough gold bags already

[floral pendant]

i can buy a good kit with less than 10k and kill ppl with epic rings while using blue im rly not having much of an issue ngl, but if it gets pretty much any worse (spec bags above like 90k) again then obv people are still duping and the economy will be bad for longer

[scarlet badge]

Can you get troll pelts in normals?

[long hornet]

You could buy a trash kit and gem it all to be decent for like 3 or 4k

[floral pendant]

gear wise this wipe is pretty balanced you can kill people with less gear so much easier now

[long hornet]

Especially as a braindead barb or fighter

[floral pendant]

yup just buy cheap purples, valentine clutched up for the market this wipe

[long hornet]

Idk how people don’t have like 10 tabs of gear saved from ssf

[floral pendant]

i love how you have the fighter role as ur main bvaahahaha

[floral pendant]

fr its TOO MUCH i have like 3 characters i havent even touched with gear i forgot about

random uniques maybe worth 10k+ i have no clue lmfao

[boreal gust]

when wipe?

[floral pendant]

couple months

[boreal gust]

ok good

[long hornet]

No fucking way really? I’ve played it a few times and you just roll lobbies with your brain off as fighter or barb. No dopamine, excitement or stimulation. No thinking or needing to outplay. Mind numbingly boring I’d rather watch paint dry

[floral pendant]

as long as we pray hard enough and they dont kill the game again with an early wipe lol

[boreal gust]

sounds about right. they will just throw 75 barb buffs and then the game with die off again

[floral pendant]

FLIP YOU SORRY IM OBSESSED WITH LONGSWORD

lmfao

[indigo valve]

Rollback tonight?

[urban rose]

is there a quest to get a gold coin chest? or you can only get it in gold piles

[agile timber]

Magic 8 Ball says "Don't count on it" they'll just get a season ban and free to alt

[long hornet]

Parrying is harder, but most people expect you to not hit the parry too so they ignore the thought of you doing it until you hit it they’re half or less and a free kill at that point

[quaint glacier]

as far as we know the chest quest isnt coming back based off data mines

[urban rose]

gotcha thanks!

[floral pendant]

honestly if they roll back by 24 hours to when spec was still 50k and delete accs thatd be great

48*

[indigo valve]

fr

[urban rose]

what is cracked wood and sturdy logs for?

i keep finding it on bodies why do people get it

[long hornet]

Yo who good a fire pair of caster tanglethread trousers I can buy

[quaint glacier]

they would have to rollback 3days which is theoretically impossible

[elder orchid]

About to log in, any word on a rollback? is it pointless for me to play?

[floral pendant]

yeah i just come from other medieval games so i dont think ill ever get parrying out of my mind (i love sorc tho the combos are so fun)

[willow abyss]

Cracked wood sells for 180, sturdy logs for 300

[urban rose]

why is there a rollback being discussed? whats it for

[agile timber]

Screw it just play tbh just play to have fun

[floral pendant]

gold dupe 💔

[gloomy comet]

I haven’t played since druid got the penguin, is there anything new?

[long hornet]

It feels very interactive, especially using both buttons. Want the mf super strike x2 to not be sold out still. Think it would feel so fluid on sorc

[quaint glacier]

people want a rollback including me but u cant

3 days is to long

[loud creek]

whatt no its not lmfao

[elder orchid]

gold du pe ex ploit

[loud creek]

the economy is absolutely fked rn

[floral pendant]

1.5 days isnt tho and thats when spec was 50k

[quaint glacier]

have u ever seen a company do a 3 day rollback on any game NO a 3 day roll back as to many logs and its unstable

[loud creek]

being completely honest anyways, most last half of the seasons the playercount drops off because there is literally nothing to do but run max kits anyways since the majority of the quests are done

[gloomy comet]

Whats the most underwhelming class to play rn

[loud creek]

i am no dev but even I know that it is possible to revert back to a set state especially if its just 3 days

but to be fair, it IS ironmace so idk if they have that kinda tech

[floral pendant]

except its barely midwipe, quests arent even fully out, and noone wants to do them again a month later

[loud creek]

i mean yeah so my point is, theres basically no reason to NOT do a wipe, otherwise the rest of the season is just fked

[floral pendant]

they have multiple times in the past, and every time they have, the playercount cuts in half.

[floral pendant]

the reason not to is that the game will have 1k active players

[loud creek]

acting like the game doesnt already feel like that already smh

[floral pendant]

you werent there for patch 69 were you

[loud creek]

the rest of the season is fked cause econ is messed up; I'm all FOR finding a way for them to fix it if it doesnt revolve a rollback but tbh it doesnt look like it

[regal raft]

They was cookin this patch and burned it …

[loud creek]

and tbh no rollback defenders are ppl that are just terminally online imo- you aren't going to lose that much progress compared to having a literal fked econ for like months

[floral pendant]

According to every other MMO game with a player economy, as long as the devs actually solve it soon and do an emergency patch, and delete accounts, the economy will go back within 2 weeks

[pure trout]

they should add 1vs1 arenas

[agile timber]

More so ass hats had to throw it around like some untrained monkeys and ruin it for everyone

[floral pendant]

kinda a fallacy there to just say "ur a loser" if someone has a diff opinion lol

[loud creek]

no, the truth is, 3 days of progress is much less than having a ruined rest of your season

[rugged glade]

Is it possible to get the full game or legenday status i think its called (??) on steam if I bought the game on black smith when it first released

spent 40$ on it when it actually dropped or however much it was

[loud creek]

theres like almost no point in looting if everything is inflated, just play s2r lol

[floral pendant]

yeah it wont be though thats not how the game economy works lol

if they cannot be artificially made, the gold will be spent on the inflated items while the price is still high

[loud creek]

so ur okay with having literally hundos of thousands of duped coins just freely roaming the econ? and you think thats okay?

[pure trout]

why are people not being banned for racism

[floral pendant]

people will continue farming them, and the price will go down due to more items than needed supply

[pure trout]

I have a guy spamming a word constantly

[floral pendant]

i said it would work if THE DEVS FIX IT AND DELETE ACCOUNTS

[cunning bear]

Ive never done it but I heard there is instructions somewhere on the game when you load on blacksmith

[floral pendant]

hundreds of thousands of duped coins is like one viola buddy

[loud creek]

bro they aint gonna do that- its too late- the coin is already circulating the market and inflating the prices. how are u gonna tell me that I dont know how economy works when you are ignoring whats actually happening to the player market lmfao

[agile timber]

Lol true but you knew what they meant 😄

[floral pendant]

ik i just had to hit them with the fallacy back

[grave yoke]

whats the coinbag glitch??

[loud creek]

and if its not the players who did the dupe, its the fact that EVERYONE is raising prices to account for the dupe

room temp iq moment

[floral pendant]

because that is how it has worked in NEARLY EVERY OTHER MMO GAME

[floral pendant]

oop they hit me with the fallacy back again

[warm kraken]

lowkey just open arena now everyone will forget about it

[loud creek]

bro listen to me

they cant just spot delete accounts, thats not how it works. the coin they already duped has circulated the market for the past 3 days marking up kits to stupid levels

[floral pendant]

real shit and ive seen you in trade i hope you find the maxroll pen

[loud creek]

arena gear has literally rocketed like 3x

[floral pendant]

thats how they did it with the ball dupe tho, pretty easy to track for them lol

[warm kraken]

🙁 it doesnt exist fr

[floral pendant]

you might have to get in the trenches and start crafting them

[loud creek]

the difference is they caught it and removed it within like hours, and only a smol amount of ppl did it

Now, I will BE OKAY if they are able to track the duped coins w/o rollback but its been days

its gotta be almost impossible by now

actually what im kind of more curious about is why its taking them so long to respond to it

[floral pendant]

i agree if another couple of days go by, but in other games and in a larger scale, it has happened for longer, ie WoW runescape etc

[floral pendant]

and i DEF AGREE WITH THIS LMFAO

[warm kraken]

oh ... i have been

[floral pendant]

theyre having a board meeting saying "holy shit it was going so well why does something always have to happen"

[hallow pawn]

damn in trade are so many scammers carzy

[warm kraken]

there's a 5.9% armor pen on market with low roll action speed for 98k, at this point I might just settle for that

[loud creek]

i just dont like bis rings going up 3x like hollyy shiiiet

[floral pendant]

i left a mysterious potion on the ground the other day on accident so ill try to channel the sacrifice to SDF to you

[loud creek]

lmfao

[agile timber]

Yeah that's how I feel and fuck the glitchers I still think they should have made an example out of the streamers abusing live at least once and people would think twice before doing things like this

[loud creek]

apen as rings were like 40kish pre dupes

[floral pendant]

is 6 the cap? if so id say fuggit its only 0.1

[loud creek]

and thats even considering the low rolls

[proper gyro]

game still pretty alive?

[loud creek]

now its like 100k

plus

[floral pendant]

yup i honestly do feel for them even tho they are taking WAY too long to give updates to the community, they were doing a great job with this wipe

and the economy was perfect, blues for norms, purple for arena, leg+unique for HR 💔

[agile timber]

Turn left in 200ft

[mental garden]

I think my complaint with this game in general is that it seems to be based solely on move speed and hp versus any skill of any kind overall. people have figured out just rushing down works 95%+ of the time, with no need to play the game

[loud creek]

its alright, youll still find games in NA with some ease

discord still superior for premades

[floral pendant]

less now than ever tho since you can parry with everything and hp/ms roll is gone at least

[floral pendant]

so it is good to see that they are trying to move away from that

[floral pendant]

and they were going to, but twitch drops were right around the corner so theyd lose alot of money so bad timing for them lol

[agile timber]

True I get mowed down with busted range more so then melee though, I think any ranged should be slightly slower than melee just for balance reasons

Not by a lot just enough to have a chance

[warm kraken]

aand another bad cloak craft WWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[mental garden]

The type of lobbies I like to play are more "flat" in terms of gearing, and I feel it's interesting even in those lobbies the amount of just straight up cheating going on. I'm for example facing a wizard, and I hit them for around 300 damage yet they hit a splash fireball for 60-70 damage. Not sure when that started in squire, but it used to math out really well when squire started. Now it's just all people who magically have 4-5 times the hp.

[grizzled adder]

hello anyone can do spec knight for me ? would be much appreciated

[south copper]

water map is trash water map is poop water map was a waste of time to make

[supple oyster]

If I was trying to build a high action speed build should I build into dexterity or should I try for flat action speed rolls?

[cedar sable]

Did they fix the dupe?

[supple oyster]

Sorry didnt mean to reply to you

[grizzled adder]

its okay

[supple oyster]

I can do spec knight for you though

[floral pendant]

someone just bought 3 pages of spec bags making them go from 55k-85k, you tell me

[grizzled adder]

that'd be great

[supple oyster]

Can you give me a minute to get on

Gotta do sumn real quick

[grizzled adder]

of course take your time

[floral pendant]

make em learn it while you do it tho

teach a man to fish

[supple oyster]

Well yeah not much of a lesson if you dont learn anything

[grizzled adder]

I just want crafts I don't care to fight for a tissue every runs

[floral pendant]

bro dont want fish?

[grizzled adder]

theres multiple ponds , We don't all need same fish

ponder on that one

[floral pendant]

ok but spectral knight is a badass and fun to learn

[sick fjord]

What I do is go Cleric and just pocket heal my friends while they practice the boss, lets them get more attempts since Spectral is very muscle memory

[supple oyster]

It is though

[grizzled adder]

I might someday I learned banshee which was a poor choice

[pure trout]

what do you need

[supple oyster]

Smart

[mental garden]

I mean, I am on wiz hitting almost all 8 of my lightning strikes in a single encounter. I then hit multiple fire balls in a row, ice bolts. The enemy team still cannot and will not die. I used to be just great versus stacking teams as I love being the peeler and chain lightning'ing on the enemy teams. Now, they simply cannot and will not and do not die, even though I am skillfully hitting back to back to back damage and even opening with damage. Now that would be at least an average of 550+ damage, but now I see people, with their inability to be killed under any circumstances, are tanking all of that and simply then just running after me and killing me in 2 hits. I'm not understanding this, I'm not seeing where it's making sense.

[grizzled adder]

glove golden

[pure trout]

what do you need to find*

[grizzled adder]

nothing just for the boss to be killed

its a quest

[subtle goblet]

for what merchant

[sick fjord]

If Catboy isn't on soon I can beat him for you too

[grizzled adder]

armourer

[subtle goblet]

ohhh right

[mental garden]

I would really, really like to know where you guys are getting 200-250 hp each on your wizards and sorcs and rangers in squire. let me know.

[subtle goblet]

forgot about that one since i already did it

[grizzled adder]

yeh need some magic res on that arena kit not going with 7% again

[floral pendant]

well dont forget golden gear is legendary now

[sick fjord]

Yeah I started running a full MR kit in my inventory as Fighter for when it's 2+ mages

[grizzled adder]

not everything yet

[subtle goblet]

only helm, cloak and chest

[grizzled adder]

gloves plate are purple

[floral pendant]

tru

ouuu i didnt know ab gloves might have to go buy some, havent seen any 3-3 roll spiked gauntlets

[grizzled adder]

yeah I got melted hella fast last week didnt account for mages enough

[subtle goblet]

Always assume there will be a ranger/wiz on the other team because its meta

[sick fjord]

Yeah if you run Torq + Magical Damage Reduction, and then 2-3 items like Barbuta Helm/Dark Leather Leggings, it's usually enough to mitigage a good chunk

[grizzled adder]

yes sir

[floral pendant]

THERES NO 3AGI3STRENGTH GOLDEN GAUNTLETS ON THE MARKET WTF

[subtle goblet]

Probably sorc too

[grizzled adder]

torq is such an insane idea

I'll steal that

[subtle goblet]

helen swooped them all

[silent geyser]

Cheapest class to play rn? Since market is insane due to cheating

[grizzled adder]

why do u think I want craft bro lmaooo

[sick fjord]

1 slot and can give like 10% res alone

[floral pendant]

💔

[subtle goblet]

not playing the game because everything will be pricey

best class

[floral pendant]

yeah i might have to finally go on water map and kill mobs lmfao

[floral pendant]

spectral fabric will still buy you like 3 decent kits, same as before

[grizzled adder]

theres so much u can do this wipe to get some gold

[silent geyser]

Requires me to farm that awful boss

[floral pendant]

troll pelt, tear, potion, etc so many expensive items that will buy HR kits

even with the inflation its the easiest wipe to afford gear

ive never been able to kill a norms boss one time and buy multiple HR kits lmfao

[silent geyser]

I can afford gear, just sold a pulv earlier. However I still want to play as cheap as possible rn lmaooo

[floral pendant]

hm u sell it for? curious

[grizzled adder]

u can play norms rogue chest routes , water map ressource hunting im sure theres a bunch of stuff idk about water map too

[silent geyser]

Norms??? I have horrible luck with spec drops on norm

[grizzled adder]

Can I still take that offer

[floral pendant]

im a luck believer and i get them decently often

fuck blythar tho

[silent geyser]

3 spec bags so 240k at the time

[floral pendant]

noxulon 4 the win

[hallow pawn]

Thx for wasting our time people crashing the market the item prices in trade.. thanks

how long should we wait till we know if we can play right now or what will happen

[floral pendant]

ok cool yea ive seen them anywhere from 2spec+bag to 3fullspec so i was wondering what they rly sell for rn

[silent geyser]

I had a good rolled one, a lot are going for 2 spec

[floral pendant]

i have one but its minted by my main so im never selling it, also have a minted aegis so prob gonna run those

[fair lance]

HOLYDUCK

[floral pendant]

gotcha makes sense

well at least until i get another lol

[fair lance]

just pulled chest on goblin highroll on my zero to hero run

[silent geyser]

W

[subtle goblet]

imagine if they rollback

but huge W

[grizzled adder]

lmao

[floral pendant]

huge W now you have to be a rollback hater like me

[silent geyser]

That's like 1 bitcoin

[subtle goblet]

1 weeks worth of dinners for helen

[fair lance]

dont even say that

[floral pendant]

we can just stop playing like 50% of the playerbase will if they do

[subtle goblet]

I'm just saying lol
they might not

[hallow pawn]

they gotta do rollback they traded everything so much its fucked

[silent geyser]

They wont, if anything they'll just nuke everyone's gold

[sick fjord]

oops mb, do you still need help?

[grizzled adder]

no worries , and yes I still need help

[fair lance]

tbh rollback isnt nessessary, it is only easy way fix this

[last basin]

i bought all my mystical potions for that quest during these last 3 days by farming spec fabric and selling.. felt liek a waste of money but the quest is done thankfuly

[subtle goblet]

The gold is already in circulation, can't stop it now even with banning them

[floral pendant]

then gold will be worth a ton still cause noone will have it when it happens lol

[frank walrus]

Can only fighter use the hand cannon?

[grizzled adder]

whats the quest for ?

[subtle goblet]

unless they rollback or wipe

lol

[floral pendant]

opposite inflation

[fair lance]

ranger too

[last basin]

goldsmith quest line last one

[floral pendant]

deflation even?

[grizzled adder]

oh okay

[sick fjord]

Sure sure, uh, gathering hall?

[subtle goblet]

more like game player deflation haha

[floral pendant]

real

[silent geyser]

Wipe gold, delist entire market

[grizzled adder]

french

[last basin]

you need 5 of them and there hard to get... there worth 25-32k on the market

[subtle goblet]

screw everyone else that didn't dupe, profit

[sick fjord]

kk I'll be MyleSwi

[floral pendant]

then people will sell their spec bags for 100k because noone will have gold for stuff, also the dupers have inventories of chests and bags etc anyways

[silent geyser]

Worth, not hard to get gold nowadays. Can make 5k+ an Ice run

[half roost]

what the hell is the range on druids nature's touch? I keep self casting it on myself

[floral pendant]

a few goblins

[subtle goblet]

not everyone will be mad i know that but it will piss off a lot of people and the playerbase is small enough already

[deep helm]

how much gold does the spectral bag hold?

[last basin]

shit farm copper ore on goblin and can make 7-10k a run

[floral pendant]

5k

[fair lance]

5k

[silent geyser]

The dupers will be banned and inv wiped so they'll be irrelevant. And selling a bag for 100k when no one has gold is not the move lol....it would literally just be like beginning of wipe agaim

[deep helm]

so why does it cost 80k on the market and take so much to make?

[floral pendant]

dupe

[deep helm]

explain?

[subtle goblet]

duping inflation

[silent geyser]

Its being used as a currency

[deep helm]

im more confused abt it now than i was when i first asked

[floral pendant]

people duplicated gold so much, and even if they didnt spectral bags are used as currency for high-tier items

there is a bug rn so the market is screwed

[deep helm]

whats the bug?

[warm kraken]

I mean sure but I sold 10 spectrals for 98k each, so I have 980k gold because of the dupers. Even if they get banned, I will still have almost a million gold from the inflation

[floral pendant]

multiple glitches combined with people duplicating gold with eachther in a lobby essentially

[agile timber]

Full chests in more gold out from goblin

[warm ingot]

How have the devs known about this for days and not done anything?

[silent geyser]

That's why I said wipe gold

[subtle goblet]

Here a simple explanation
They are duping raw gold by bypassing the games code and bringing in full chests, they use that raw gold to buy up certain items e.g spec bag then relist spec bags at a higher price than normal

[floral pendant]

people have been banned, but no clue as to why they havent fixed it or shut down servers

[silent geyser]

Brother....what

[warm kraken]

so then I lose all my bags and all my gold? lol

[viscid oak]

What is up with artifacts in trade going up 600% over this last week?

[vagrant knoll]

Just do a wipe

[silent geyser]

Everyone loses all their gold and starts over. Yes

[silent geyser]

Gold dupe

[warm kraken]

just full wipe at that point

[agile timber]

Was been kind of vague so I don't get Thanos snapped 🤷

[subtle goblet]

too bad they don't have the content for next wipe ready probably lol

[silent geyser]

Pretty much. Just wipe and give is a semi wipe

[sonic maple]

Whey day we grow farther from paul

[silent geyser]

Ah

[gusty cradle]

yeah its my first season and was having fun until kits went from 10-20k to 50k over night. feelsbadman

[agile timber]

Honestly if it semi wipes I'm out again

[floral pendant]

where u get all the chesticles to hold that, i wanna sell mine but dont have the gold storage

[silent geyser]

I mean with something this bad you kinda have to

[fair lance]

just delete all gold, problem solved

[floral pendant]

except then the player count cuts in half, not rly a solution when it makes it worse for the playercount

[fair lance]

not perfectly but much better than wipe whole game

[subtle goblet]

They are in a bad situation because of past mistakes breaking players trust if they do something like wipe or rollback its going to hurt peoples trust even more. Some people are hanging onto this game by a thread of trust lol

[agile timber]

Not really hell a rollback of like a day is better than nothing at least then the dupe wasn't as known and economy breaking

[floral pendant]

^^^

[silent geyser]

That's going to happen if they do nothing as well....so wtf do they do

[subtle goblet]

its been going on for 4-5 days, that rollback would hurt so many players time and wealth acquired over that time period

[devout lily]

Fixes nothing mate it’s been a week+ that it’s been public knowledge there’s billions in duped gold already

Only solution is a semi wipe

[silent geyser]

@agile timber you know you're in R6 now? Pretty good OP to

[subtle goblet]

This is what happens when you leave problems for too long

[sonic maple]

Riot

[floral pendant]

like ive said in other MMO games the economy corrects itself as long as the dupers accounts are wiped, people will buy the bags while the price is inflated losing gold, and people will farm more of them making them go down. as long as not everyone has inventories of chests they cant hold a ton of gold anyways

[devout lily]

Wipe all inventory’s and just move on if not it’s cooked

[subtle goblet]

option A? bad
option B? bad also

[subtle goblet]

its cooked either way bro

[floral pendant]

and it was all going so well....

[floral pendant]

except for my artifacts... right?.... right?....

[subtle goblet]

one way lose half your playerbase
another way? the same

[subtle goblet]

Ikr this was actually a great wipe, one of the best imo and then this happens. I can't even play the game cause i just feel dirty lol

[floral pendant]

idk in other games it is fixed and the economy is back within 2 weeks

[brave kelp]

gang wtf happened

[warm kraken]

can hold 125k on each character if you fill all 5 stashes with the little bags

[floral pendant]

lmfao yeah it probably is screwed either way knowing that if it wipes the game is dead, rollback more than a day and the game is dead, and even if they ban all accs and wipe them there is a chance of alts etc

[subtle goblet]

but do those games have more players than this one and has the history of not respecting players time?

[floral pendant]

and zero gear or hunting loot

[brave kelp]

WTF HAPPENED

[sonic maple]

Save Us paul

[warm kraken]

yeah i mean if you play every class then it sucks, but I only play 3 classes so I have 7 empty character slots

[devout lily]

Yeah deff one of the better ones pop did pretty good at not declining

[floral pendant]

very true, the only thing is those games also have more dupers then too. but yeah, knowing how its been in the past it might be cooked

[warm kraken]

GOLDH0LDER1 2 3 4 and 5 😂

[subtle goblet]

Not even a chance, they have multiple accounts at the ready plus if they need to can buy another for 10 bucks on 3rd party websites

[brave kelp]

why would they need to soft wipe ? wtf happened

[warm kraken]

I love the people coming in saying "wtf happened" instead of just reading 5 lines of text on their screen

[brave kelp]

i was gone for not even a day lmao

[floral pendant]

ah yea that makes sense i swap to pretty much every class now and then but main fighter

[brave kelp]

are you actually slow

[subtle goblet]

seems you like your slow to the party brother lol

[brave kelp]

obv it was duping but how

[agile timber]

I mean sure but the economy was kind of stable a day or two ago ban the fools that did it and set it back to before it blew up to where every Tom and Harry knew. Yeah some would be pissed or whatever but it's better than full on wipe or busted economy all season because that would certainly kill this season. I started this season out even saying that if it semi wipes I'm out so I know a lot feel the same way

[warm kraken]

why would anyone tell you how

[brave kelp]

not that i wann aknow hgow

lord yall actually so reatrded average dark and darker player

[warm kraken]

if you even hint at how it was done you just gettin banned from this disc

[timid shuttle]

So are they doing a roll back?

[subtle goblet]

then why are you here if you don't play dark and darker, your ragebait is weak sir

[brave kelp]

cant they just find who did it

they wipe my 200 plus hours of learning colosus and grinding im never playing this shit game again

[subtle goblet]

Must have been a derp moon recently, so many pepegas recently

[brave kelp]

so lame

not to mention no anti cheat🥀

[sharp wyvern]

I hope they wipe so I can watch u all cry

[brave kelp]

say you broke

[timid shuttle]

its so bad rn its not even funny. ESPers and the aimbot rangers lol

[sharp wyvern]

Hard to be broke this wipe

[pliant cliff]

Maybe they should Set All players to 0 Gold, sure some people got many items from buying items before but atleast economy is more stable for casual player

[brave kelp]

I have clips of a 50% armour pen and 50% headshot bonus ranger with the most obv aim bot ever

[warm kraken]

i mean I made like 2mil from abusing the market during the crazy inflation, and i wouldn't care if they wiped .. just leave my completed quests alone

[brave kelp]

not even sure he was banned never got an email

[subtle goblet]

wdym cry? I'll be free for 2 months cause i won't be playing another wipe when this one is barely half way lol

[brave kelp]

yeah fr

[sharp wyvern]

I agree wipe all loot keep quests

[brave kelp]

it makes no sense to wipe

wipe all loot is dumb asf punish all people for a couple players duping sounds sooo dumb

yet another way to pu8nish they measly 25 real fans of the game left

[subtle goblet]

its either they wipe or rollback to when the dupe started...5-6 days ago

[brave kelp]

i say roll back

[subtle goblet]

or they leave the game as is and its fucked anyway

[brave kelp]

i mean it sucks ill lose 2 artifacts from colosus

but again

[viscid pumice]

genius idea honestly

[brave kelp]

you wipe it all losing all players

[sonic maple]

These are the consequences of giving scum rice

[hallow pawn]

rollback or uninstall

[brave kelp]

yeah

shouldnt they be able to see if people had a bunch of an iteam or sum and just ban the,

[subtle goblet]

just save the first option and uninstall pre-emptively lol

[viscid pumice]

whats annoying me is how they havent said anything yet

[subtle goblet]

#the-tavern message
There is no dupe in Ba Sing Se

[agile timber]

Yeah like even if it's a day or two the market was fine the last day or two but now that it's public and not just rumors the shit has hit the fan

[subtle goblet]

playing the pr game but its so obvious that the message is insulting lol

[hallow pawn]

lies

[viscid pumice]

everyone abused the fact the market is gigga filled with gold, I myself sold my artfact for way more than its worth

[hallow pawn]

so unprofessional

[subtle goblet]

thats graysuns way of being a CM lol

[viscid pumice]

https://klipy.com/gifs/no-war-in-ba-sing-se-avatar

[subtle goblet]

Yup lmao

[viscid pumice]

why didnt the gif pop up tf

https://klipy.com/gifs/there-is-no-war-in-basingse-there-is-no-war-in-ba-sing-se

[subtle goblet]

Hey guys look at these new cosmetics we are cooking up!
Also dw about the dupe its barely affecting the market...

[viscid pumice]

whatever

idk if they can

roll back

when its been

4-5 days

[sonic maple]

Embed fail

[viscid pumice]

this wipe was going so well as well man

[hallow pawn]

at least an warning information like idk, its funny because they are people running arround buyed with duped gold and they maybe didnt even know where the items are from

[viscid pumice]

i was having a lotta fun

[subtle goblet]

Same unexpected, same

[subtle goblet]

The duped gold is already deep in circulation, legit players will no doubt have items bought with duped gold

[sonic maple]

Right

[viscid pumice]

bro the amount of fking timmies

going to SK

is funny

trying to get a fabric to sell it

[hallow pawn]

This wipe was one of the best wipes so far, but the market crash is sad
the disarm nerf is nobody is using that anymore

[silent geyser]

#the-tavern message

[viscid pumice]

disarm was cooked the sec everyone started crying

[fair lance]

i really like this ring/amulet system, makes resources worth to collect

[viscid pumice]

im a fighter main and i shed a tear for what was once gear

[hallow pawn]

its not bad idea

[viscid pumice]

as a lazy fker, i do not XDDDD

[severe coyote]

I'm a little blown away by how many trios I join that are just openly discussing how they participate in RMT

[viscid pumice]

make it harder to find rings not impossible man

[silent geyser]

Statement by Grayson
#the-tavern message

[viscid pumice]

whats RMT

[indigo valve]

when barb nerf

[keen mauve]

Do NOT say that word here unless you wanna be sent to the gulag

[sonic maple]

They are the cause of the bs

[agile timber]

They could and probably should to before the market got screwed up really bad the other day and everyone knew but that would be the smart and well idk

[brave kelp]

lmao i didnt know what it stood for either

[viscid pumice]

"most of it has been contained." WHAAAATTT???? do they think we r dumb

[subtle goblet]

yes

[viscid pumice]

ya sure 40k troll pelt makes sense

i fk with it

[subtle goblet]

and tbf a lot of people in here are but still

[viscid pumice]

someone said it first xd

if they really pull a "no war in ba sing se" imma dip

or just play arena with my kit

[tacit plover]

whats happening with the dupping stuff? is there any news from iron mace about it? i dont wanna play if a rollback is confirmed

[viscid pumice]

like past tense? so yk now?

[brave kelp]

yeah I figured it out someone dm me what it stood for

[viscid pumice]

sounds like someone made a lot of money selling to dupers XD

[silent geyser]

Devs say the dupes aren't hurting the market as much as it seems.....

[sonic maple]

Krill the game ruiners

[tacit plover]

bahaha i wish my ass is broke

[viscid pumice]

0_0

[keen mauve]

#the-tavern message

[tacit plover]

thank you

[agile timber]

I would just play to have fun to be honest, If people can't play games just for fun anymore I don't wanna live anymore you know?

[severe coyote]

You'd expect the info on it to be in the announcement channel, not the tavern channel. Communication has never been an arrow in the iron mace quiver.

[tacit plover]

true but killing someone with an artifact just to be rolled back a day later, sounds like no rollback is happening so i guess ill play

[sonic maple]

Put them in the belly of a whale

[indigo valve]

theyd only announce it 30 mins before the patch just like they do every update

[viscid pumice]

well u cant really play if everything is bought on the market now can u

[tacit plover]

true

[viscid pumice]

and if u wanna play SSF... BOOM suddenly this MAX BISS fker with 100 biss kit runs u down cuz he has100m gold

unless u a pve bro then as u were bro

[nocturne urchin]

did they fix the dupe yet

or is the game finished

[viscid pumice]

idk go give it a try and lmk

XD

[grave arrow]

didnt they patch bringing storage items into dungeons??? how are people bugging this sdf fix your fucking game

[indigo valve]

yea they did

[smoky jetty]

whats good chat

[agile timber]

Me when I troll 🧌

[nocturne hound]

does penguin water orb scale of spell casting or action speed

[indigo ginkgo]

I'll assume they are working on killing the duping problem.
Expressman on Blue Maelstrom, took my stuff, but doesn't have it after the match.

[indigo valve]

I’m deadass

Try it

[fickle rapids]

Reload game. Its usually problem

[indigo ginkgo]

it appeared, just had to wait a couple mins

[opaque stratus]

how much is pesty worth rn

[wise notch]

its $34 to $49

[edgy sable]

you wish pal

[wise notch]

no im serious

[surreal scroll]

Magic spam sucks….

[opaque stratus]

i mean in gold

[wicked spear]

ill give you 50 silver

[wise notch]

oh its $2 million to over $3 million

[elder bolt]

who else ready for the rollback?

[frigid sleet]

is that real @elder bolt

[alpine wing]

does high roller spectral have higher fabric chance than normals

[tacit mulch]

Can anyone give me the gist of what gets wiped and how often the wipes are?

[warm kraken]

Spectral Fabric
5% Pve
10% Norms
20% HR

from datamine discord

[alpine wing]

wait what discord is that

[subtle goblet]

all loot/gold/gear, lvls, triumph level is wiped and its usually every 3-4 months

character names and created classes stay but you start at lvl 1

[tacit mulch]

So it’s basically like starting from scratch again minus keeping cosmetics you bought?

[warm kraken]

the wiki cord i think

[tight sun]

so why is spectral fabric selling for 30k+ rn on the market?

[subtle goblet]

👍

[tight sun]

35k minimum rn

[alpine wing]

dupe

[tight sun]

? dupe?

[subtle goblet]

duplication

[tight sun]

yeah but that doesnt explain why its 30k +

[subtle goblet]

its all over the reddit and in the disc man just look around

[chilly bramble]

What's the drop chance for spectral fabric in pve mode?

[keen mauve]

I CANT SAY THAT?

DAMN YOU AUTOMOD

[edgy sable]

damn u automod!!

[idle mirage]

Can you still whisper to other players in game once you’ve died

[subtle goblet]

no

[idle mirage]

Dang, thx

[tight sun]

i ust did last game

[edgy sable]

No that was too powerful, people couldn't handle it. It's a hardcore dungeon but don't worry we won't let anyone whisper you.

[idle mirage]

Bruh

[subtle goblet]

if he was a friend you can

[jovial bluff]

Is spectral fabric from PVE mode 5% or 10% drop chance?

[subtle goblet]

or you invited them to a group but you cannot whisper strangers

[warm kraken]

5

[edgy sable]

If they aren't your friend it just looks like youre whispering them

[idle mirage]

Oh ok

[agile grove]

Why hasn't there been a hotfix for gold dupe lmao

Devs are actually on another level of spectrum

[tight sun]

so is there no point in selling my spectral fabrics rn if theyre gonna rollback the game?

[agile grove]

There not gonna rollback

They will have to do a week roll back

[tight sun]

you sure because i have 12 spectrral fabrics an i can ell them for 32k a piece instantly

[rich relic]

Honestly the most disappointing part is graysuns response. My ass it hasn't effected the market

[tight sun]

lol spectral fabric was 3k lat i checked then got a mesage saying to check market and book 35k minimum a fabric

[agile grove]

Graysun knew about the dupe for ages he just didn't care 😆

[rich relic]

Yeh one thing knowing about it another completely lying about how bad it's effected the market and essentially tell us to not trust our eyes trust graysun

[subtle goblet]

Its what he is expected of from sdf, follow blindly
Too bad we aren't employees that just bow down ey

[agile grove]

They should make artifacts 100% spawn rate to counter the gold dupers wipes already shit show 🤣

[warm kraken]

gamble on some cloaks

[muted pebble]

Everything’s so expensive now lolol

[nocturne urchin]

well this wipe is a complete failure

gg

[strong galleon]

this game is done

been here since playtest 2 and it just keeps getting worse and worse

[pallid hemlock]

yep. 2 rogue skills and a single new ranger ability was already going to be the entire rest of the whole wipe, this is just the cherry on top

[subtle goblet]

This wipe had so much promise

[subtle heart]

The ecstasy of winning a fight between 5 people in gy and being the last one standing is enough to make me want to keep living

[strong galleon]

i stopped playing 6 months ago and came back this wipe and now this

they'll never get it together

hopefully nexon takes over

[subtle heart]

Just ignore the discord drama, chances are if you’re an average player you won’t really be affected too much unless you’re buying the stuff that has a lot of inflation rn

[strong galleon]

ive played since playtest 2 and know that it's never going to improve

[pallid hemlock]

Recognizing basic truth is considered toxic around here ^ "L Community" or something idk

[compact urchin]

still no announcement?

[ionic mica]

is there a rollback happening

[pallid hemlock]

#the-tavern message

😭

[fringe garnet]

Lol

They lost the case so long ago now

[subtle heart]

“We have been analyzing the situation for several days before it became publicly known.”
Quit analyzing and get to work fixing the bug!

[fringe garnet]

That's what they've been doing friend

[ionic mica]

if valve made this game we would genuinely have 80k concurrent players

[subtle heart]

Oh yeah serveral days to fix a simple glitch, such a hard working team

[fringe garnet]

Fixing things is not always so simple

[ionic mica]

this glitch has been in the game since playtest

[subtle heart]

Quite a claim

[pallid hemlock]

guys they have to sniff out the mole, the "add dupe glitch to a new item" guy! hes somewhere in there sneaking around, wreaking havoc!

[fringe garnet]

We aren't allowed to discuss the details of exploits but I know how this is done and it was caused by a much more recent change than that

[agile grove]

All they have to do is make chest not be able to go in raid

[pallid hemlock]

oh wait its the lead dev 😬

[fickle marlin]

lol

"Right now it isn't safe to comment"

"As this can give the exploiters an advantage"

[subtle heart]

Why can’t they actually do this?

[fickle marlin]

This implies it's game code/files. If it was chest like we thought then it'd be fixed by now, no?

If not then it's straight incompetence lol

[agile grove]

Legit such a easy quick hotfix but they don't know what there doing 🤣

[fickle marlin]

cya boys next wipe

[honest cedar]

Explain to me how Cyclops Rags are so cheap

• when enchanted fabric are 1000's of gold
• When this blue piece is the ONLY crafted blue with 3 stats on it
• and blue gear in general is selling for tons

I.Don't.Get.It

[subtle heart]

Bro this issue isn’t really affecting you and me common folk that much it’s embarrassing for the devs but it’s not a really big problem

For the common player

[fringe garnet]

Cyclops rags aren't really used for anything

[fickle marlin]

I've got thousands of hours. If anything it's affecting casual players far more since they can't access much on the marketplace. Quit the cope this is blatant incompetence.

[agile grove]

Gold dupe effects normal Casual players most since they won't be able to trade up to chest since everything is super high value now 🤣

[fickle marlin]

Yep. Unless you play SSF. That's a very small % of the playerbase doing that willingly.