game-discussion

[marble ivy]

Ragnarok Online was a bit of a pain too.

[azure bronze]

Project gorgon>>>

[proven lion]

EverQuest would bore the kids now days the graphics of it would hurt them

Let me guess, BDO is a hard MMO too

[brazen pike]

mortal online 2 could have been something but it's just zerg and zerger

[fickle marlin]

then you should know damn well a 5 yr old could clear all classic wow content lol

[fickle marlin]

never tried it after all the backlash it got seemed like a waste of time, heard they improved it alot tho similar to no man's sky type games

[proven lion]

We’re speaking on old classic. Not need classic

[proven lion]

Sure if you like bleeding your bank account dry then

[fickle marlin]

Old classic being hard was because addons weren't popular, no one was meta gaming or solving the game math wise back then. Everyone played for fun on their toasters. Not many other mmos existed up until that point in the same capacity.

[marble ivy]

I really hope they go the route of releasing a new "classic" expansion for WoW, but with the HR in power and with the latest statements I doubt.

[proven lion]

We’re talking the WOW before addons, before discord, before the internet was popping off

[marble ivy]

It would have to be done a bunch of sweaty/smelly men in a cave.

[proven lion]

Back when teamspeak was the only thing you used or if you had friends then you’d invite them over

[proven lion]

Just play Turtle wow. It’s wow classic but better than blizzard.

& it’s free

[marble ivy]

WOW times where they would give you 3-days of gameplay for the service being offline, kek.

Im trying TBC again, atm, with the wife

[proven lion]

A big majority of wow back then was heavily reliable on the community

[fickle marlin]

right well of these modern mmos were released back then they wouldve been far less accessible considering people were struggling with classic raids back then lmao

[proven lion]

You were stuck asking non stop begging and pleading for raids.

[marble ivy]

People were extremely more competitive back then

Everyone looks like a crybaby in comparisson nowadays.

[proven lion]

Plus. 40 people were doing raids when voice chat was hardly a thing

That took skill

[marble ivy]

The good old Gitgud2000's.

[keen hearth]

speaking of mmos did yall heard of apogea? some say its runescape 2

[proven lion]

Tanking also was very difficult back then.

[keen hearth]

they had a very succesful playtest

[proven lion]

You had no guides, no videos, it was all trial and error & if you think wow is toxic today? Should’ve seen it back then

[marble ivy]

It was insane, ahah.

[proven lion]

One error & you were every slur in the book, pizzas sent to your house, and so much shit

[marble ivy]

Everyone was so toxic that the whole community improved by default.

So, what are we raiding today?

"Stormwind"

[proven lion]

Not to mention the bugs, the glitches

I remember a PvP clan I knew back then raided and killed everyone holding a WOW funeral

[marble ivy]

Oh yeah thats a classic

[proven lion]

For a girl in that guild that passed away

& then laughed about it

[marble ivy]

Today would likely be instaban.

[proven lion]

You do that nowadays & you’re canceled.

I remember GM island. We used to go there & get bullied by the GMs

[marble ivy]

Swifty's One Shot Macro

[proven lion]

I remember when bears had a certain debuff so you taunted them a lot and it made your character huge.

Made them huge not your character

Gaming isn’t as fun as it used to be

Playing WOW on that dialup internet was peak

[marble ivy]

Yeah, PC killed everything, generation of slowflakes.

Can't even barely type in games anymore. Everything's a reason to cry.

That's why I respect Rust, its still a cesspool of toxicity.

[tawny vine]

I tried ranger

I think i like it better than sorcerer actually

[digital phoenix]

its easier thats for sure

[tawny vine]

Dont get me wrong sorcerer is great but this is much more simple and fun

Big w. More classes I can enjoy

[smoky juniper]

Yesterday I had a problem, when I wanted to start the game it gave me an error code :21, I uninstalled the game and it worked. Today I wanted to play my favorite game and it gave me the same error as yesterday. error :21 IRONMACE..

[cyan plank]

With the new workshop why the hell they continue to usa the flea in a game where the fun is search loot and adapt?

[elfin fern]

delete longbow and purge shit

[tawny vine]

Do rangers trigger their own traps?

[pale ivy]

yea

what do i do with my ultimate gems?

[plain marlin]

why does my unique ceremonial staff have 8% projectile damage reduction... how why

a unique weapon with +5 damage i understand

[elfin fern]

it's really fucking annoying to run into teams that actually know what they're doing in s2r as a solo

[scenic tundra]

????

[elfin fern]

what's confusing

[fossil geode]

What classes are solid for Solo PvE farming?

For things like quests/resources..

[daring reef]

Bard

[errant dawn]

Cleric over all for bossing probably bard

[sly mural]

why can rouges and sorcs just get on top of thing other players cant normally do so dumb

[shadow steppe]

Can someone please tell me why the frost wyvren has only dropped me bows as named weapons ???

Hello ??????

[fossil geode]

What makes cleric so good?

[prisma horizon]

it only drops bow

[daring reef]

one of its skill channels energy that does a lot of damage to undead in a huge area

[errant dawn]

The undead dmg talent + aoe to kill undead ( active talent)

[errant dawn]

You can just pull whole room and kill them with one buton

[fossil geode]

Ahhh. So you just grab the undead damage talent, aoe, and then you also have the spell?

[brazen pike]

some people do purify spell, some do purify smite

[coarse portal]

Well dont join as a solo turn on the find team button...

[brazen pike]

with faithfulness you could catch people in pvp with smite and they wouldn't be able to get away but I have not tried it since this season with the movement changes

[coarse portal]

Yeah but you can get real flashy with sorcerer

[prisma horizon]

are we still not able to buyback if we die from void in pve?

[hollow tartan]

whats meta rn

[floral thunder]

aaaand cyclops still bugs out and cant be killed

[tawny vine]

You've converted me into a ranger main what have you done T_T

[fossil geode]

:3

[tawny vine]

Its too fun.

I love the back step

[fossil geode]

Still need to try that. Currently a corpse. In hell.

[cloud musk]

they changed the nameds drops

[tawny vine]

Its fun actually has some tech if you spin 180 in air and press

[fossil geode]

Anything in particular I should use legendary gems for?

[tough whale]

gemming ur gear

wow

[hardy stump]

sell for 10k a pop when market opens up

[sage venture]

where do i get golden ore these days? only behind the troll and cyclops room? also has troll been made more resilient to warlock hellfire?

[hardy stump]

GC middle boss room and RNG from ruins golem

[sage venture]

no alternative?

[hardy stump]

sometimes at dealmaker shop

[sage venture]

ive killed maybe 30 golems and havent seen it on them

[hardy stump]

only reliable way is boss room

[tawny vine]

I just got paired with the best rogue ive seen in my life.

[cursive shard]

How to dodge wyvren first phase

[tawny vine]

He soloed the hell boss getting hit only 3 times. 2 of which were unavoidable damage.

The dude is cracked beyond belief lol

[rancid grove]

Hey guys, is there a guide on how to play sorc without any gear? when I look up guides its just ppl running around in crazy gear. Or is sorc without gear unplayable? I wonna learn it

[fossil geode]

Really stupid question. What's the main draw of dual wielding?

[copper wing]

@cinder anchor look DM

[charred veldt]

ok sdf now roll a patch removing the lava boss last phase floor sh!t randomness

make it static or spawn under you but rng is ass

[muted pebble]

depending on weapons sometimes slightly more dps

[charred veldt]

move speed penalty, does not apply to slayer fighter
also not blocking, which is kinda big this season

[fossil geode]

I was looking at Arming Sword+Short Sword on my archer.

[charred veldt]

pointless

also can you even use arming sword on ranger? 🤔

[fossil geode]

Yes. I've been using it exclusively.

[pale ivy]

how inflated is the market gonna be

[hot vault]

has anyone solod the fire map boss since they totally changed its moves with the patch to be stupid difficult? Kinda lame when a new boss and map drops and its low key fun to fight the boss but then the devs dont like fun and make the boss fight extremely difficult and zero fun to do

more like a job to fight the boss xD

[charred veldt]

idk, better stock on mysterious potions before then

my rough estimate would be 6k gold per piece

10% on the most annoying mini boss in inferno is crazy

[fossil geode]

What does luck do? Does it do anything?

[muted pebble]

its broken right now doesnt realy work

[fossil geode]

Okay, ill just hoard the pots then

[forest wagon]

#RemoveFrannieDamageBuff Ts does way too much damage

[muted pebble]

oh is that why im killing people with frannies recently

[indigo wagon]

Remove Barb period and cut sprint on fighter in half

[static totem]

It affects the reward reveal when opening containers such as chests, piles and boss bodies and regular bodies

Although the impact is really small

[steel summit]

iron mace should add whispering to random back so i can shit talk barbarians

[silent spruce]

what is up with this game being so fucking poorly optimized holy shit

constantly having 20 fps because the game decides to shit itself randomly

[fossil geode]

I've never dropped below 60, that sounds like an PC issue

Hasn't stuttered once since installing.

[silent spruce]

my pc runs fine and my friends are having the exact same issue

[fossil geode]

Out of curiosity

What brand GPU do you have?

[silent spruce]

not sure tbh

im not the one who built my pc

[fossil geode]

Cause there are 2 brands people really have in their pc

so if yall have the same brand, and this game doesnt like that brand

I've 100% had games give me shit just because my GPU is AMD

[twilit shoal]

Iron mace, I grinded to be ready for SSF Arena this weekend and your telling me there’s no arena this weekend? What’s the point of the SSF Season if we get no time to build cool kits with it and use our kits? I feel so betrayed and done with DAD. I stuck around when player counts were under 3k, but I might be done now…

[gentle stratus]

Later ❤️

[wispy siren]

tavern triggered caypnamer.A warning for windows defender anyone have info

[lilac venture]

anyone elses game laggy af

[brave kelp]

are servers down?

[unreal obsidian]

will arena be ssf when it comes back.. Like reallllly ssf, have to extract with it on you ssf

[silver ginkgo]

You will know some hours before the release, as they have done for cancelling this week. VISION / COMMUNICATION

[lime osprey]

i finally found the cockatrice lucky feather

man im tired

[fallow blaze]

after 200+ bladehand kills i conclude artifacts are a myth this season

[stoic shadow]

Goblin merchant is a groyper

[violet garnet]

anyone know non boss tidestone locations?

[fallow blaze]

center

i think and there is like only 1 node

[static totem]

Yeah some definitely spawn in the center, but be ready to rush it since it's most likely going to be contested 24/7

[violet garnet]

even on hr?

[viral shore]

does anyone know how much gob merchant retrieves now?

[fallow blaze]

yea

[spiral totem]

I just tried to play S2R.. my one team mate runs into a bunch of goblins and dies instantly the leaves, the other one is clearly playing with out audio and just tries to loot boxes in a corner and we get rushed on...

[noble wren]

First time playing with randos?

[spiral totem]

I play with randos but this mornign they seem extra new lol

[burnt leaf]

Anyone else unable to find any normal rubies? Green tier

Ive got multiple stacks of everything else

[violet garnet]

cant even find in middle

[spiral totem]

these s2r lobbies are not even worth playing right now.

[deep spindle]

they clearly completely messed up loot tables on first floor. if u go in some rooms u get 12 pickaxes in closets in goblin cave. also obv troll pelt / troll blood completely messed up drop rate. fix your spaghetti code. every thrid mob has some sort of useless tool dropping

[elfin current]

i get stuck on sum 1 more time im uninstalling

[royal prism]

whats that combat debuff that applies every time I hit something?

[whole trail]

There are now different perks that deal with being in combat so it’s a new icon to signal when you are in active combat

[broken cove]

Probably not

[whole trail]

Opens on the 20th for the arena season

[next epoch]

dang just straight up crashed to desktop about 30 seconds into fighting the fire colossus, not even a crash report or anything

[fast bone]

just crashed too after insanely lagging

[next epoch]

yeah i noticed a strange frame stutter, almost freezing, about 10 seconds after loading into the 2nd level of goblin caves. didnt think anything of it until the crash

[stone panther]

that's because everyone other than the extreme timmies is running the new batch of quests

[leaden jetty]

the game must be in a really good state, i havent played in over a year but im reading patchnotes and this is one of the times where the clown emoji reacts have been the lowest ive ever seen lmao

[spiral totem]

makes sense.. I was hoping to run random trios in goblin caves but after 6 minutes wait I left adventure queue for s2r

[novel talon]

a bug in new boss room gob caves take out the torches they just float on top and kill the boss with a wiz while taking no damage

[balmy oyster]

dont play with @novel talon he is a teamkiller and a horrible pvper

i have clip proof. 😄

[novel talon]

says the guy doing the bug hahahhahaha

[balmy oyster]

didnt deny it. Enjoy the report/ban

[royal prism]

how to escape from four route? no lever on the upper door? I see a lower door but idk how to get to it 😔

[stone panther]

the gate is on a timer, the lever is for the platform. Usually opens a bit past half way

[novel talon]

you are cheating the game bud nothing worse than that you are exploiting folks actually get ban for that

use it while you can itll be gone soon (;

[next epoch]

was double checking the rules to see if this is still a muteable offence but guess you already reported him so that works out.

[12] - Abusing the channels in order to team-kill fellow players is a permanently muteable offense.

[royal prism]

ohh so if I just chillat this upper door it will open up at some point? thx man

[broken cove]

Yeah thats because 1 less people are playing in total and 2 its early

[stone panther]

yeh. It will

[broken cove]

What does that even mean?

[pale ivy]

i noticed that when i played solos

[next epoch]

means you cant kill other teammates you're queued up with in the discord voice channels
its to prevent ppl from just being trolls and just killing eachother right as you spawn in

[gusty birch]

Have you ever encountered those cruel ppl who just download last version of Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak and do Steam-fix to it , apply like "better matchmaking" from nexus and hunt online in steam? 😆 Thus they need to be carefull with their "cloud" option in steam and ofc add a whole folder to the list of exceptions of microsoft defender...

[cunning canopy]

Anyone knows where to find Broken glases?

[next epoch]

the frost imps in ice caves that throw snowballs at you drop them, they're in the lower level of it

[hasty creek]

How do I dodge spectral knight's jumping attack? he jumped me like Batman or smt

[broken cove]

Its worded weirdly imo but it also brings up questions. It says abuse, so if I play with randoms in vc get pissed off and kill a teammate am I permanently muted or is it only when they specifically plan to team kill you

[next epoch]

thats up to the mods to say but id assume any teamkilling would be punishable

[spiral totem]

i think its still just a timeout before you can join next game

[woven terrace]

If everyone in a raid dies why can’t we pay to get our gear back? I get it’s probably nearing “too easy” to be in BIS, but what about paying to insure our gear? Something? Anything?

[next epoch]

that's a thing too but i was linking a rule specific to this discord

[spiral totem]

thats what goblin merchant is for, get his affinity up and he can bring back stuff even from HR this season.

[next epoch]

ya gob merchant for HR sounds really neat tbh

[woven terrace]

Wait really? They did bring it back? Jfc I have tism

[broken cove]

Its been disabled till last night

[spiral totem]

yeah, now with his quests you can get his lvl up and he will bring back more gear and prices go down

[hasty creek]

No it was a mistake on Iron mace's part which made it so it had no quests I think which is so dumb lol

[distant pier]

Yo yo people dwarf lover here. Yall know where I can find Lifeleaf?

[gusty birch]

ye they deside to bring it back cause its like more than half year since he aint return nothing except pve and timmies still wondering "where is my items sponchebob"

[spiral totem]

inferno

[distant pier]

Thank ye

[hasty creek]

Fixed an issue where the Goblin Merchant quest line could fail to unlock properly.

[gusty birch]

no more lifeleaf in inferno?

[broken cove]

• This week marks the opening of the Goblin Merchant quest lines. Please note that improving your affinity with the Goblin Merchant means he will be more apt to recover your gear from the Normal and High-Roller modes. Improving your affinity with him will also reduce the costs when retrieving those items from him. As a reminder, the Goblin Merchant will only recover items that are ‘Uncommon’ grade or higher and only Armors, Rings, Pendants, Cloaks, Primary and Secondary Weapons, Lanterns, and Instruments. Other item types are not eligible for recovery.

[spiral totem]

yeah, its there. the skull key room has some on top and bottom level. and its in other modules too

[hasty creek]

"Fixed an issue where the Goblin Merchant quest line could fail to unlock properly."

[broken cove]

Yes it was broken for a day and disabled before that

[spiral totem]

yeah, mine didn't unlock after they added it and it was supposed to be there.

[hasty creek]

same

[broken cove]

I'm assuming this player talking about recovery didnt know gobo merchant existed and has been disabled for 3 weeks and then had 1 day of a bug so I went with the more obvious option

[spiral totem]

but to give credit where its due, they did an emergency 3am patch to fix it...

[next epoch]

which several people in here complained about lmao

[spiral totem]

they need something to complain about..

[broken cove]

Yet my classes spells still fizzle out and dont work but steal my CD 10% of the time

[spiral totem]

what class and what spells? Ive been fighter, barb and cleric this season

[broken cove]

Once sdf learned he couldnt pilot sorc he just ditched it

[spiral totem]

its one of those things... first it was ranger, then warlock now sorc.. his characters get buffed lol

[broken cove]

Sdfs class he was so adamant on developing and exited for, sorcerer.

But since release they've had the same issues with certain spells just not working, mainly teleport

And there has been 0 attention towards it, instead we are developing new skills instead of fixing broken shit

[spiral totem]

I only played it when released, and for a short time. When i teleported into a doorand my booty was hanging out for both teams to laugh at... I stopped playing sorc haha

[broken cove]

Yeah that doesnt really happen anymore, you used to be able to target aoe spells on any class threw door frames but you could probably still pull it off if someone closed the door on you and you got it just right

It was so amazing doing a lightning storm or a lightning strike threw a door when someone was opening it but I guess that wasn't "balanced" smh

[spiral totem]

I figured they worked on it last season.. some people have success but it seems like a high skill celing.

[plucky otter]

what stats are the dwarfs? and are they actually "smaller" shorter

[broken cove]

Personally I just wished we had 0 melee build options, makes it harder to balance the caster version and I feel we suffer because of it

[broken quarry]

i have a quest for goblin merchant which is find " cave altar a " but i can only find B lmao

[spiral totem]

caster only Dark and darker?

[broken cove]

-10MS and yes you are shorter, heater shield basically covers your whole body

[plucky otter]

Im sold could be rlly fun for bonk cleric?

[silent spruce]

its good if u have teammates to chase ppl but on solo its pretty bad

[broken cove]

Good luck catching anyone on bonk cleric dwarf

[plucky otter]

speed haxs

[silent spruce]

you wont be able to kill anyone unless they refuse to disengage

[broken cove]

I've seen some people run it but it seems like a meme

[silent spruce]

dwarf is mostly about being a tank for ur team

its great at just holding ppl and staling for time

[broken cove]

I wish it wasn't MS but a str penalty or id run it on sorc

But its such a buff to have a smaller hitbox so I get it

[silent spruce]

str penalty would be busted for casters

[broken cove]

Why do you think I want it lmao

[ashen willow]

not like casters need any more buffs rn

[sinful gull]

especially sorc.. probably strongest solo class overall

[silent spruce]

barb or warlock probably is the best solo class tbh

[plucky otter]

Is sorc hard to learn?

[silent spruce]

its pretty demanding

[bleak cliff]

What’s changed in the last year, game worth coming back to?

[broken cove]

Yes and its not as good as everyone says it is

[silent spruce]

new abilities new dungeon new goblin floor map and everything can parry

[broken cove]

Its a lack of understanding and exposure to the class that makes people think it is a powerhouse but a wizard is a much deadlier threat in most interactions

[silent spruce]

sorcerer is better at being annoying and escaping id say

wizard is just more lethal but can screw up more easily

[broken cove]

Yes

Sorcerer is good at consistent pressure but struggles with burst pressure and wizard is the opposite

[sinful gull]

I dont really disagree, but since rangers are not so plenty in solo rn... Sorc is the least counterable for any non-ranger, if they hit the stun in solo its literally over for all but locks maybe.. and if they miss no big deal you cant catch them anyway. Then just run 10s until its back and another shot to 1 shot combo... and also 1 hit of elemental point blank will also win them allmost anyfight even without stun

[broken cove]

Something about 4 direct fireballs and zaps seems to hurt

[silent spruce]

theres not that many rangers but there's a bunch odf fighter that run bows though

[broken cove]

Most classes can run a shield and shield counters most of sorcs spells

Fire arrows, ele bolt, ice spear, frost lightning(if done correctly), levitate, windblasy

[sinful gull]

And if you are a ranger you hardcounter them, but if you ever get out of cover or they push you in the open, youre a 1 shot just the same .. 1 flame wall makes you half hp and is easier to land than a arrow

fighter with bow is nothing to a sorc imo

good sorc* ..that s the thing im saying its good, im not saying its the easiest thing to do, like barb

[broken cove]

I disagree, while yes a good sorc can put a lot of pressure on a fighter its also their counter like fighter is supposed to struggling in that match up

[compact urchin]

sorry super noob here: treasurer - find abandoned sanctuary - is this in the crytps?

been trying to find any guide or any map and nothing

[silent spruce]

its in the first floor its the chapel looking thing

with harpies in the middle

[compact urchin]

aHHHH harpies yes I remember

I died there yesterday, thnak you!

[safe arch]

Has anyone found yet if grimmsmiles and the like will be available from the Alchemist or Goldsmith this season?

[broken cove]

Lol the new player struggle idk why but that comment is so funny

[broken cove]

They already are

[sinful gull]

Argueably even worse than vs wizard... what is the strat vs casters ? You hold a doorway or any cover and trade single shots with them, using your faster proj speed.. try that vs flame wall which is all they do on cover fights.. if they miss just put golem down to stall until cd.. if you push during cd you go up against stun+bolt.. I prefer fighting a wiz if im fighter

[broken cove]

Do you use a shield?

99% of fighters dont know this one trick

[long hornet]

Something good to do that with help with every wipe, Google dark and darker map and click the first one. You can see every module name, every mob location, for every map and also where to find chests piles etc. just doesn’t show some quest item locations

[broken cove]

Have you or a loved one every tried blocking frost lightning but still gotten frozen? You may be entitled to sorcerer compensation

[compact urchin]

ya been trying

[safe arch]

I should clarify to mean which one are they available from?

[long hornet]

Sorc op fr fr

[sinful gull]

good sorcs hit the leg for still over 50 dmg .. and they can also just hold it, what are you gonna do up close ? never swing? so as soon as you are around 50% hp, which could be a single flamewall if ungeared, they can hold elemental bolt in your face and if you ever swing your weapon they kill you with a arm shot... Alot of people just never fought a really good sorc

[broken cove]

Shields block frost lightning and make the spell stop, so if its a 15 foot line but hits your shield at 5ft then it stops, but if you are walking forward then the spell turns to ice and you get stunned. But if you block with the shield and don't walk forward waiting for it to turn to ice then it'll be safe to walk forward

[broken cove]

Brother in christ no WoF is doing 50% hp to squire vrs squire you are crazy sorc is the worst squire class

[long hornet]

Yeah, I watch multiple sorc streamers. Shield doesn’t stop it or ele bolt ever lol

[sinful gull]

vs a timmy this works vs good players not so much ..

[sinful gull]

read again im talking about the fighter obviously

[broken cove]

In a 3v3 with pressure its better than walking forward

[sinful gull]

good thing we are talking about solo sorc and nothing else here

[long hornet]

All you do is frost lightning ele bolt, flame strike, let’s do a knockback, let’s do another knockback oh man let’s do something hard and body block oh cds are up let’s do it again

[broken cove]

If your only talking about solos, yes without a skill diff sorc will always beat fighter and thats how its meant to be

This game wasn't designed for solos it was designed for trios because specific classes outright counter others

[long hornet]

Squire sorcs have killed full leggos in greys many times lol

[broken cove]

A solo sorc cant kill an ironwill barb without skill dif

[brave mango]

skill diff can overcame any obstacle, great point

[next epoch]

50 dmg to the limb usually requires at least some gear and you're talking about if the opponent is ungeared. not sure what the point of talking geared vs ungeared is

[broken cove]

And hide rogues have killed many kitted wizards???

[long hornet]

I mean, it’s not skill it’s the same rotations. Sorc is free af

[broken cove]

So play it

[sinful gull]

I was talking about solo, yes that was the original comment YOU responded to lol. The fighter thing is something YOU brought up, i was talking about rangers which should be the hardcounter.

[long hornet]

I did for awhile it’s too boring and cheesy. Doesn’t feel like outplays because you have way too many options

[brave mango]

it is skill diff, this is like saying a landmine rogue can take care of a fully kitted warlock because they caught them offguard or a barbarian fucking up a fully kitted cleric

[broken cove]

And im telling you most fighters just w key and dont try to block or shoot or do anything

[charred veldt]

yooo when the minor vendor quest drops

miner*

[brave mango]

🤨

[broken cove]

📸

[long hornet]

Sorc is like the safest class in the game rn. Anyone who doesn’t think so, isn’t a very good sorc lol

[sinful gull]

his point was fighters are good vs sorcs (or at least decent?) that is what im argueing about there. I think even if you are giga geared it would do this if you dont have mr which is likely for fighter

[silent spruce]

druid or rogue is probably safer

[long hornet]

Sorc hard counters fighter

[charred veldt]

Yup

only hard counter to sorc might be iron will barb with viking sword and round shield

[sinful gull]

that was my point .. fighter isnt good vs sorc even wiz is easier to play against, as ive explained mostly due to flamewall and the 1 shot combo potential

[long hornet]

Druid is ass now, you can run. Rogue can run but you have nothing compared to sorc. You’re in a bad spot you hope the enemy is bad

[charred veldt]

and maybe ranger if you hit your sh!t

[long hornet]

Yeah Ranger is skill based

[silent spruce]

you have bear and rogue has hide and double jump

[granite hamlet]

Just run crossbow and lock in it’s that easy

[silent spruce]

like saying druid and rogue have nothing isnt really true

[charred veldt]

you either out range the sorc, or trap them so they can't have you mid range and fcked

[long hornet]

Rogue has hide where you hear steps and can only go 10 away crouched. Bear is easy to parry and outspace

[broken cove]

Wizard is not easier to play against, you have more experience playing against wizard and you probably have hours in wizard knowing how they work and pilot but not in sorc.

You have more experience and exposure to wizard so you find that fight more managable

[silent spruce]

its still pretty easy for them to get away from situations

sorcerer is better at killing people but rogue and druid are better at just avoiding ppl at all

[long hornet]

It’s way easier to kill a wiz than a sorc 😂

[long hornet]

Sorc can avoid, sorc can easily kill people, a decent sorc you never touch. Thats why they’ve gotten back to back nerfs

[silent spruce]

sorc cant avoid people as well as druid or rogue

[long hornet]

? Uh

[silent spruce]

they're still better classes for people that just dont wanna engage with others

[broken cove]

Idk man when a fighter runs at me id prefer 4 fireballs over 1 teleport spell

[sinful gull]

yeah more wiz than sorc sure.. but ive mained sorc the entire season it came out(and beyond).. i understand its different now but if you hit the stun and follow elemental bolt you are dead, thats bs..hard cc doesnt belong in DaD .. wiz cant do that at all, it just feels so cheap cause the stun is sooooo easy to land too and a shield doesnt block it if you go low, i used it 1000 times

[long hornet]

Teleport away, body block, levitate yourself, 4 knockbacks like how can you not avoid people 🤣

[long hornet]

If you ever die to a fighter as a sorc, that’s a skill issue entirely 🤣

[broken cove]

Yeah I dodge frost lightning 80% of the time without a shield, sorry but this seems like a skill issue

[broken cove]

I've killed plenty of sorcs as a fighter but just knowing how the class pilots and playing around it

[long hornet]

If someone misses a skill shot, that’s the definition of skill issue

[broken cove]

Its really easy when all their spells are easily telegraphed

[obsidian grove]

Wish they add new abilities for warlock

[sinful gull]

lol sure you do... the problem is that a skilled sorc doesnt let you do that at this rate. I shit on timmies sorcs and players that just switched after getting 1 tapped with ZERO counterplay, too.. youre not special

[long hornet]

A wiz only throwing 4 fireballs at you as well, isn’t a good wiz. Every spell has a use relying on one is not understanding the others

[broken cove]

And a skilled ranger two shots, a geared sorc

[sinful gull]

such a huge point in this you can bait and count and when he is out its your time to apply pressure.. sorcs just cheese run stall, thats what the class is made for in solo. when cd is back they return, talking shit usually lol

[long hornet]

If a sorc positions in a way it’s that easy, that’s a skill issue. And that would be 2 headshots. Heavily outplayed then

[gloomy sand]

can we get rid of ssf?

[long hornet]

Yeah. Sorcs can stall forever and be the safest class in the game. It’s honestly way worse than Druid. Least Druid ran, sorc does the same while still being able to kill you

[broken cove]

I mean do you not have headphones dude? Use a crossbow and if you hear earth and fire you know WoF is coming so back away from the door

Like all the spells are so easily telegraphed

[sinful gull]

but flamewall is just stupid you are 3m behind cover you hear him charge it, but there is NO hint for where it could go and does so much dmg.. not blockable instantly spawns after release

[gloomy sand]

thats one is bs lol

[broken cove]

Imagine you are the sorc and think, where would I put this flame wall, then don't stand there

[sinful gull]

flamewall and the stun arent telegraphed they flick it last sec so it comes down to guesses and chance, just terrible game design

[broken cove]

Frost lightning has a delay and can be dodged after the fact

[long hornet]

They’d put it behind you and pressure you back and get momentum. Do you only play against Timmy’s or something?

That’s prediction. They miss it’s a skill issue. Then they bodyblock or use 4 knockbacks and it doesn’t matter

No other caster in the game has a tenth of the utility or safety as sorc does

[broken cove]

I dont stand their like an id10t, if they are casting WoF they are withing 15ft of range, pop sprint and charge or run breakthrough if the stun is that oppresive

[errant dawn]

Sorc Is broken shit if you know how to play it thats it guys 😂

[next epoch]

flamewall is easy to bait if you move forward or back in my experience playing against and as the sorc. the line is pretty thin

[sinful gull]

how do you fight em then? you just run at them straight and dodge the stun .. sure you have played vs alot of good sorc players, wtf are you even talking about at this point... flamewall ? just dont stand there! where? anywhere you would stand! hitscan stun that is easier to hit than any other hitscan ability up close? just dodge it !

[long hornet]

Idk how so many people don’t understand 🤣 they got nerfed 2 patches in a row and people still aren’t admitting it lmao

[long hornet]

Honestly for your class, just run. They have to be ass for you to even have a chance

[errant dawn]

And if you dont know how to play the game just pick barbar and you will be brainlessly king in solo 😂

[modest forge]

is gobbo recovery not in the game anymore? or only for certain modes?

[long hornet]

Facts. Then you go trios they feed and blame their team 😂

[sinful gull]

if you say you just dodge the sorc stun than you are just dodging everything is this game cause the only thing easier to land is shriek of weakness

[long hornet]

Need goblin merchant affinity for it to work.

[delicate steppe]

Sorc ruined the game

[long hornet]

Monk will be even worse I’m sure. They have to make the newest classes do more and more and it ruins the old ones

[delicate steppe]

Lol y'all still thinking monk is coming

[long hornet]

They already said it is. I could care less but it will be, it’s already completed

[broken cove]

Ok your right sorc getting spells back on CD is too oppressive let's make them like wizard with spell slots

Ill take 5 frost lightnings and 5 wofs and 5 ele bolts have fun fighter mains

[long hornet]

Wizard hasn’t gotten a nerf in a long ass time. Sorc has gotten nerfed in back to back weeks. 🤣 what are you not getting

Wiz mains would die to have cd based spells instead of limited amounts

[broken cove]

Cds are better for consistent pressure and spell slots excell at burst pressure, wizard doesnt want cds at least good wizards dont

[sinful gull]

for the 10th time you are making up things that ive never said. Sorc would be even more broken if it would work like that.. it just cant have the knockback or stun at these cds and elemental bolt cant do 50 with like 1.5 (or 2) scaling thats just waaaay overtuned... flamwall needs to give a indicator on the ground with sufficient time to dodge, it should be for zoning only and predictive(lucky) hits.. those were my points

[long hornet]

You can run 10 spell wiz and never run out of spells. Build resource and have half cds. If wiz had 1/4th of what sorc did it would be insanely broken.

[broken cove]

Ok and bows shouldnt shoot the exact same way they should have spread to them

[long hornet]

I think they just play s2r or something at this point

[broken cove]

The game is in a pretty good balance place historically, fighters just want to win all fights

[long hornet]

Or eu. Eu players pretty bad

[broken cove]

NA z2H preferred but have been mainly just HR all wipe

Kitted hr

[sinful gull]

makes sense, because logic! 🤔

[burnt leaf]

Anyone else unable to find ANY green tier rubies? Ive gotten 2 or more stacks of green and blues of all other gems... played all day yesterday and none, im kinda tweakin ngl

[sinful gull]

this level of brainrot is too much for me, sry

[broken cove]

If you shoot a long bow across ruins bridge and dont move your mouse all 100 arrows would land in the same spot, thats not fair so let's add spread to that too

And while we are at it a fighter should have stamina in full plate, its exhausting carrying that around eventually he'll have to rest and be weak

[delicate steppe]

Bro what game are you creating

[broken cove]

Sorc is going to lose(or be unable to kill) to ironwill barb or ranger 90% of the time

Everyone has counters yours is sorc and wiz sorrry

[delicate steppe]

Go tell your devs they should do xyz

[broken cove]

Dude is bitching that he cant w key every class and win

[minor pine]

nice update, now the game keeps closing itself out randomly. 👍

[edgy sable]

Give em the Map Genie ~
ToniiIIight!~

[peak ether]

a full plate fighter is faster than a squiere geared ranger? god lord...are the devs high on crack or something?

[edgy sable]

Correct

[subtle heart]

are there any early founder achievements or anything?

[edgy sable]

Hold the line emote? Not sure

[subtle heart]

not sure i havent played in ages

2023-09-30 is when i got the game

idk most games have like early tester titles and shit

[edgy sable]

Well hold the line emote was for founders only but I dont know if they ever sold it in the store lol

[subtle heart]

was just curious is all lol

[broken cove]

We are still in early testing lmao

[subtle heart]

yeah but the game had some legality problems, got taken down, became a discord download only game, then got released on steam and shit

some games , as we know, have achievements or titles or something for staying along with the game, thats all im asking

[white matrix]

I guess the only thing similar would be season rewards for early seasons. Those never reappear and are sort of what youre describing i guess.

[subtle heart]

yeah basically, i might try and get back into the game

is everyone combative over a simple question or?

[fringe garnet]

They did not

[vast halo]

how do i get rings/neck now? just came back after a while

[fringe garnet]

Skeleton, Blue Torch, and Hold the Line are all Founder's items

[white matrix]

My bad if that came off as combative

[subtle heart]

nah not you lol

[opaque basalt]

so high roller pve don't exist no more?

[drowsy wasp]

how do you reduce / remove the background sound in the blue maelstrom map i can't hear anything

[noble wren]

Do you not remember how toxic the community was/is? 🤣

[subtle heart]

well i come from league of legends

not many more communities more toxic than that

[noble wren]

Haha yeah. lol/dota worse

[subtle heart]

but at least they can answer a simple question without raging out XD

[vast halo]

was TM lock nerfed completely into the ground?

[cursive sleet]

yes

[junior crane]

hey yall since sturdy cloth is now on ice cave are shackles also on ice cave? If so, where?

[vast halo]

from what i can tell in 2 games on lock again, recoverable hp nerf to TM is gigantic, but then also phant is like half as long, and there are item nerfs to base stats like occultist boots

is there some sort of upside that i'm missing?

[junior crane]

no.

[river sierra]

unique occultist robe with +6 knowlede good?

[broken cove]

Phantomize can be canceled at will now so thats a buff

[junior crane]

that was there last season you press f to cancel?

[broken cove]

Yeah, you sounded like a returning player tho so idk if you knew

[vast halo]

so if ur playing lock now ur 100% a melee lock? or just garbage

[broken cove]

Thats what it seems like tbh

[wraith mantle]

So as a returning player, could anyone explain to me without their personal bias what the meta is/how to go about playing this game again? I have no idea what stat lines i'm even looking for on gear or where to farm money etc. The game is hella fun again though, causing chaos with squire gear into faustian bargain has been super cool. I have been doing runs in normal pvp mode, and when i bring in full blues which it says is the highest item rarity allowed i still get like 2 shot by other players, while i literally hit them like 5 times. I'm just trying to be informed on the why this is happening so i can git gud

[graceful tartan]

Anyone else having fps issues as of yesterday? Fps randomly tanks to 25fps and back to 100

[subtle heart]

if i were to return to dark and darker.. what class woudl yall recommend?

[broken cove]

They just need to buff TM but make it either only get like 3 targets active or only work against players not pve

[subtle heart]

as if im a complete noob

[broken cove]

Fighter its always fighter

Cleric for pve mode learning how mobs attack and fighter for pvp

[wraith mantle]

what skills and perks would you say are the best baseline for a new player wanting to succeed at fighter?

I love fighting to the death, i would just like to win a little more often..

[clear jasper]

Its still good just need to slurp pots all game. Only thing i dislike is how hard it is to maintain good move speed and not get ran down

[daring slate]

How long is valentine in the game?

[broken cove]

I mean i always liked no TM lock just health pots and spamming dark bolts when not in arena

It was always pretty strong having infinite bolts they do good dmg

[broken cove]

No one knows but id bet Monday

[daring slate]

Hm damn

I kinda still need 10 roses

[charred veldt]

uhhh is a "Wooden mask" good?

or should I just sell

[junior crane]

quest item

[warm tendon]

Where did you get it from?

[dusky kestrel]

Need 2 for quest

[charred veldt]

I see

thanks

which quest

[charred veldt]

ice map prop drop in uhhhh

pyramid was it?

lying against one of the upper steps

[warm tendon]

Okay thank you

[broken cove]

Also yeti pedestal room with lions head on the steps to it

[charred veldt]

for what quest

[junior crane]

anyone know where to find shackles if they spawn anywhere but water map

[warm tendon]

Nice, good to know thank you

[charred veldt]

I can confirm, just looted one in the last step of that room

[charred veldt]

It's a prop somewhere in water map, don't remember where... Maybe near bladehand?

[agile pagoda]

I moved my Dark and Darker installation to another drive and now it won't launch, errors on the launch. I did try uninstalling completely and reinstalling.

[broken cove]

Do you have old blacksmith files downloaded somewhere

That gave me issues when playing steam version

[opal schooner]

hows the game feeling now yall

[gaunt sand]

Horrible

they made the absolute worst decision yesterday

no announcements. no warning. everyone expectin arenas for the weekend

[rapid vapor]

what decision was that exactly

[gaunt sand]

no arenas for the weekend

[rapid vapor]

horrible for you* it has no impact on me then

[gaunt sand]

and someone said they are bringing it after weekend cause they knew they fucked up

but thats more a slap in the face for all us who have to go back to work

yea good for you fr. either way a shitty way they went about doing it like i said with no notice.

[silver ginkgo]

Was so lame from them to do that like this. Litteraly shit on us.

with the smile and silence

[gaunt sand]

yea whether you play arenas or dont you cant deny it was a shitty way to go about it

[silver ginkgo]

Yeah, if they say that for exemple on monday no prob, but they let you farm your stuff to say hey Fu

But we know how it works here, communication are so bad. We didn't even know what will be the rules for next week.

[rigid depot]

You used to be able to find a team in the LFG channels and people were spamming constantly. Now you see 1 message every 5 minutes. What the hell has happened? Is it the SSF?

[trail fiber]

Where are demonflys at?

[rapid vapor]

the farty flies in inferno

[trail fiber]

Where in inferno i meant

[rapid vapor]

everyone moved to lfg in the discord

[trail fiber]

found a reddit that said blood pillars

[rapid vapor]

the guaranteed triple portals has like 4 i think

[trail fiber]

oh nice ty

[brittle sinew]

FIX THE ALT BUG, FIX HITTING IN INVENTORY, STOP MAKING RNG QUESTS

[trail fiber]

alright next question how do you kill the demonflies

they just kill themselves

[sand sedge]

The best way I was able to do it was hellfire

One high damage ranged hit

[trail fiber]

and im playing rogue of course

[rapid vapor]

unfortunately i dont think rogue could even kill them. you need high burst damage

[trail fiber]

Bruh

ty though

[brittle sinew]

FIX THE ALT BUG, FIX HITTING IN INVENTORY, STOP MAKING RNG QUESTS, FIX THE ALT BUG, FIX HITTING IN INVENTORY, STOP MAKING RNG QUESTS, FIX THE ALT BUG, FIX HITTING IN INVENTORY, STOP MAKING RNG QUESTS

[trail fiber]

Alt bug is where you drop stuff right?

when right clicking

[brittle sinew]

no ice bolt one shots them

[brittle sinew]

yes

[trail fiber]

spam alt

[brittle sinew]

no

[trail depot]

hand crossbow, dagger when it gets close

[plain marlin]

where do you find 'wooden mask' quest item for the collector?

[rapid vapor]

Apparently ice caves pyramid can spawn one next to the item

[plain marlin]

is it on top or below the pyramid?

[trail fiber]

imagine wearing different clothes and then forgetting how to cast spells

[oak hare]

I know it might get annoying answering these questions but I cant connect to the game. failed to connect. I have tried :
dns flushed ❌
firewall off ❌
file integrity check ❌
regedit cleaned ❌
uninstall reinstall ❌
vpn ❌

any ideas?

[outer grail]

what are ur specs and what windows

[trail fiber]

It fixes it, just spam alt every time you tab back into dark and darker

[oak hare]

windows 11 4090 96 gb ram but idk why my pc specs would matter

[sand sedge]

Good to know

[brittle sinew]

no the bug shouldnt be in the game

[outer grail]

wtf xD

[trail fiber]

Fair but it fixes it until they fix it in 10 years

[outer grail]

do u have the game on steam or the blacksmith launcher @oak hare

[oak hare]

ah I shouldve mentioned that. I am on steam

[outer grail]

try it on the native launcher

if that doesn't work, try a new account

[sonic maple]

The alt bug is killing me irl

[outer grail]

u could prob just be banned or smthing

[oak hare]

I haven't played since like 3 seasons ago or something so thatd be crazy

[outer grail]

https://tenor.com/view/pay-attention-to-me-one-orange-brain-cell-kitten-cat-meow-gif-16762328332322827176

[sonic maple]

You'd be bouncing on it crazy style

[shrewd pewter]

you ever get your stuff back?

[agile pagoda]

I don't think so and don't know how I'd check

[broken cove]

Search uninstall in the settings and then type in blacksmith

[agile pagoda]

Nothing. This is the error code I get.

Tavern: an error has occurred. code : 21

[prisma horizon]

yea & it was true bis so thanks god

never again goin pve overgeared

[broken cove]

I think yoy have blacksmith files but try this

"c:\Program Files\IRONMACE\Tavern(Launcher) \TavernApp_1_1"

• right click TavernWorker.exe

• select properties

go to compatibility tab

• check "run this program as an administrator"

ok to complete

[simple sky]

4 vigor or 20 armour rating which one is better

[prisma horizon]

4vig id say

[agile pagoda]

That worked thanks

[broken cove]

Np

[plain marlin]

you guys ever notice a phenomenon where you need to kill something for a quest, and you go look and its already dead within 60 seconds of the map starting? and then it happens like 6 maps in a row

[barren tinsel]

@pure dirge very engaging gameplay. stinky rat

[sly halo]

anyone figure out something other than shields for the fire colossus phase 2 when it swipes its hand and fire comes out

[fervent anvil]

trying to right now but i cant cause every single time im down there. theres a full bis rogue

[paper knoll]

Error code: 21 anyone?

[trail fiber]

Blow of corruption and longsword worked better than hellfire

[lethal idol]

jo whats gona be arena gear cap on release next week

[sly halo]

lmk if you figure anything out, ive been parrying but i cant tell where it aims for that so im pretty much praying im blocking in the right area

[digital pecan]

issue was fixed on wipe and one of the recent patches broke it again. i'm on proton experimental

[fervent anvil]

well from the angle it comes out at. its impossible without blocking it. ngl the fight went from too easy to being too much of a pain to be worth it. like your constantly being knocked back so you cant swing against it unless your timing and distancing is literally perfect. its got really high pdr and hp. + it has an unavoidable attack that you need to block which just makes you get less hits in. im finding it hard to believe that ironmace wants this boss to be possible

[tiny forum]

Can someone tell me where to find bellows

[brisk lagoon]

i swear dark and darker loves watching their player numbers drop, i love firing up dark and darker on a thursday to see arenas still gone for another 6 days

[fervent anvil]

well if you read the patch and dev notes then you would know that this weekend of arena isnt happening so they can prep it for season start

[brisk lagoon]

sorry some of us have a life and dont live on discord lol

[fervent anvil]

you dont have to live on discord to read a set of patchnotes

[vapid oyster]

the patch note weirdos always crack me up

[brisk lagoon]

either way if i read it, or if i logged in to see the same result doesnt change my stance on the subject

[vapid oyster]

"I refuse to read patch notes and I'm constantly surprised by changes! I hate it! And dont tell me to read the patch notes!"

[trail halo]

is the arena going to be looted only when it opens again?

[fervent anvil]

heh

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[vapid oyster]

I just can't understand playing a pvp game not reading patch notes

[livid onyx]

Patch notes come and go, but cleric troll cheese remains the same

[fervent anvil]

🧀

[brisk lagoon]

its funny how akay and torkable are literally sitting here waiting to try and rage bait people for discussing things in a channel made or conversation. yalls lives need more to it lol. i bet ill be the highlight of both of your uneventful days

[vapid oyster]

omg I didnt' give you head pats for complaining, I'm rage baiting!

[tiny forum]

Where to find bellows anyone

[fervent anvil]

wraiths

[tiny forum]

Ty

[fervent anvil]

wouldnt really call complaining about no arena having a conversation but ight

[brisk lagoon]

sad you had to ask twice they too busy trying to be trolls to actually help people

[fervent anvil]

they aint crazy common. so gl farming them

[tiny forum]

Easier to get in hr or norms

[brisk lagoon]

but im outa here enjoy sitting in dark and darker chat being sad people

[fervent anvil]

prob hr. tho you can get them in any mode

[vapid oyster]

I'm whining about stuff but you didn't respond with a peer reviewed paper accepted in a scientific journal refuting my stupid complaint so you're rage baiting, nerd

[tiny forum]

Ok

[vapid oyster]

[grand beacon]

I KILL DRUID BUT NEVER CAN FIND BODY WTF is it a bug or wat

[vapid oyster]

they body gets catapulted by the shapeshift when they die

it's... somewhere

[valid rune]

rat druid

[grand beacon]

RLY?

wtf how far could it go

[vapid oyster]

anywhere lol

1 of many many reasons to hate druids

[brisk lagoon]

lol pathetic attempt to seem educated

[grand beacon]

uhhhhhg i couldnt find it before i had to take blue.... so lame man

[vapid oyster]

kek

[grand beacon]

i swear that body just straight vanished

[proud drum]

fellas where we finding wooden masks?

[brisk lagoon]

warhammer player and a wow player, i can smell your neckbeard from here brother

[vapid oyster]

[fair geode]

yo guys is action speed important with ranger longbow ?
i have 20% but i think i should aim for str righrt ? im a ranger

[brisk lagoon]

20% is good i would stack phys power at that point

[warm tendon]

str and dex are both important when using the longbow

[fair geode]

ty guys, i ahve 33% pdr but 113 hp only

[brave kelp]

whats with high roller not working

[fair geode]

should i go more hp or more damage? i ahve 26 str

[brisk lagoon]

prolly more hp artound 30 is usually ideal

[fair geode]

okok

[brave kelp]

anyone else not able to q into high roller

[fair geode]

also do u guys use quickfire with longbow if u have already 20 action speed ?

[warm tendon]

Yes presonally I do

[fair geode]

this is what im running

[fair geode]

oh cant send picture lol and second skill what are u using ?

im playing duo - trio

[warm tendon]

I'm using back-step

then I'd take something else

[fair geode]

penetrating shot worth it ?

quick fire ?

[vapid oyster]

1. play ranger
2. refuse to pick multishot
3. complain about barbarians and melee meta
4. ???
5. keep doing it

[fair geode]

i donty know multishot in teamplay

[vapid oyster]

what does teamplay have to do with it

[fair geode]

i ahve frontline i mea

[vapid oyster]

if you're using multishot at anything other than point blank range you're a scrub

[fair geode]

no, i mean i have frontline , a barb cant rush me that easy for me to be worth using multishot

if he just spams w to rush me if i have decent positioning he would be killed by my teammates

[safe arch]

Does anyone here know if in this season, the alchemist or the goldsmith crafts grimmsmiles?

[pallid hemlock]

this is too advanced for some folk

[pale mica]

yo multishot is worth picking

[tulip arch]

Multishot vs a melee meta is still so risky

[pale mica]

just cuz when theres noone near u can use multi to get 5 arrows back when youre at 0

[tulip arch]

If they dont die then your COOKED

[warm tendon]

Not sure yet, I have done all of the Goldsmith quests and no grimsmiles there

[grand beacon]

can we remove questing in ice caves and water world so i dont have to play on shitty maps plz

[keen jolt]

what does s2r mean???

[gleaming owl]

squire kits only

to ritches

[trail halo]

where do you get cobalt ore

[warm tendon]

Goblin caves or kill Golems on the Ruins map.

[trail halo]

ty

[noble wren]

Squire to riches. Game mode.

[restive lichen]

REMOVE WIND IMMUNITY ON IRON WILL!
REMOVE WIND IMMUNITY ON IRON WILL!
REMOVE WIND IMMUNITY ON IRON WILL!
REMOVE WIND IMMUNITY ON IRON WILL!

[stark summit]

has anyone tried the buffed dark offering?

[pallid hemlock]

GIVE IRON WILL A NEGATIVE KNOCKBACK MODIFIER
MAKE IT SO WINDSPELLS SUCK IRON WILL BARB CL0SER
GIVE IRON WILL A NEGATIVE KNOCKBACK MODIFIER
MAKE IT SO WINDSPELLS SUCK IRON WILL BARB CL0SER
GIVE IRON WILL A NEGATIVE KNOCKBACK MODIFIER
MAKE IT SO WINDSPELLS SUCK IRON WILL BARB CL0SER

[keen hearth]

Hold up everyone sdf and the dev team this requires immediate attention the president and prime minister @pallid hemlock has commanded us to act

[restive lichen]

REMOVE WIND IMMUNITY ON IRON WILL!REMOVE WIND IMMUNITY ON IRON WILL!REMOVE WIND IMMUNITY ON IRON WILL!REMOVE WIND IMMUNITY ON IRON WILL!REMOVE WIND IMMUNITY ON IRON WILL!

REMOVE WIND IMMUNITY ON IRON WILL!REMOVE WIND IMMUNITY ON IRON WILL!REMOVE WIND IMMUNITY ON IRON WILL!REMOVE WIND IMMUNITY ON IRON WILL!REMOVE WIND IMMUNITY ON IRON WILL!

[pallid hemlock]

president AND prime minister? 🫣 🫢

♥️🇨 🇴 🇲 🇲 🇺 🇳 🇮 🇹 🇾

[cunning sleet]

what happened to dnd memes, did they get tired of getting made fun of everytime?

[fervent anvil]

the channels still there. same place as normal

[cunning sleet]

mysterious, I dont see it

[fervent anvil]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1154484790985228420

[magic sleet]

Can you get all white squire gear yet or no?

[warm tendon]

Before the today/yesterdays quests it wasn't possible, maybe with the new quests it is possible.

[valid sparrow]

oh no you cant spam knockback on 1 of the classes poor you😢

[subtle heart]

Tbf barb iron will is why nobody plays casters rn

[stable nimbus]

🐧

[restive lichen]

REMOVE WATERMAP

[stable nimbus]

Ksnsknsns

[hardy stump]

remove wind knockback from sorc, sorc already has more hard cc than he deserves

[valid sparrow]

Chef's kiss

[worldly hedge]

Wooden mask anyone know where they are ?

[echo nimbus]

I'm confused, can you not block whirlwind with a shield?

[worldly hedge]

I don’t think so you can block the hits but the skill still will finish

[tulip arch]

You can

Just needa block all 3

[signal helm]

Is anybody getting error to launch Tavern code 14? I cant find a single source explaining the error or anything. I havent done anything since yesterday. Yesterday everything worked fine. I am using blacksmith launcher.

[echo nimbus]

Guess I just missed the blocks then. Thanks

[worldly hedge]

Run it as admin

[signal helm]

didnt work

[tulip arch]

They can still aim for your legs to

[compact nymph]

for purging the path quest what is the treasure room?

[worldly hedge]

Repair the game and try it

[signal helm]

Didnt work either

[worldly hedge]

Blow up the pc at this point. Haha jk. Uninstall reinstall

[signal helm]

Ive tried everything you usually try. uninstalling and reinstalling. Repairing running as admin. Disabling windows defender.

[lime pine]

Bruh is stingray bugged? I keep dying to phase transition inside the bubble, why is no one talking about this???

[worldly hedge]

Does anyone know how Rate the pear is ? I killed someone who had it on them

Rare *

[inner token]

supposedly 1/20k chance to get it from a ruins barrel (i got one in pve) :3

[worldly hedge]

!! What 😂 holy. Nice

[pallid hemlock]

#the-tavern message try this maybe

[inner token]

i got it during the first days of the wipe lol :P

[sly halo]

i got past phase 2, standing ridiculously close to force the swipe and riposting the swipe worked pretty well. @violet sonnet 's parry video was pretty helpful but im using rapier

i think the fire fan starts low to high in a arc so if youre close enough it wont hit?

[urban trellis]

anynody mind telling me what treasure room looks lik e

tried looking up the module and got a bunch of bull

[trail halo]

what map

[urban trellis]

ruins pretty sure its in crypts tho

[warm tendon]

This map, roughly bottom right.

[fervent anvil]

its the room with the gold key door. looks like 3 tubes

[urban trellis]

dope ty you all

[edgy sable]

Take that map genie and then release it out of it's lamp!

Release it outta there genie style!

[radiant urchin]

anyone know where to find the armillary spheres? from what i could find theyre on ice but ive checked and they arent spawning.

[trail halo]

https://darkanddarkertracker.com/maps

[warm tendon]

The module with a yeti and harpy, it spawns in between two large chests. It's a new module, it was in last season of arena. I had it to spawn quite bunch in HR.

[radiant urchin]

ive been running it for the past 3 hours and no luck might have to try in hr

[warm tendon]

Try HR

[low burrow]

Anyone knows what to do if my resolution in fullscreen window is forced to 2048x1152 while my native is 2560x1400? I tried changing it in gamesettings.ini but it did nothing. I have the game on blacksmith so forcing it through steam is not an option

[warm tendon]

Try togglinh between fullscreen and windowed fullscreen. I think that will let you change it

[low burrow]

Not really. The window stretches but it still only shows 2048x1152

[radiant urchin]

2 of them spawned on the 2nd game in hr

[warm tendon]

It's "rare" rarity, getting it in normals is very rare lol

[pulsar flare]

no i keep getting error code 21 since yesterday tho weds. I was playin just fine. I did everything google told me to do and still didnt work. What is code 14?

[copper lava]

For normal, is it better to gem physical power or pyhsical damage

[lime pine]

Depends on the weapon.

[radiant mortar]

is there somewhere i can check the scalings and stat growth ? i read they changed it but i don't know if it's available somewhere

[elfin fern]

hide could be deleted from the game and nothing of value would be lost

[fair geode]

Hey guys I have long time witho ur playing warlock, I know TM doesn’t work anymore to heal but hydralock is still doable ?

[warm tendon]

TM works still, just keep apotion running when in combat

[elfin fern]

continuous dungeon also continues to be cancer even with the somewhat shorter window

[fair geode]

But can I like heal myself while fighting like before ?

[warm tendon]

Yes you can

You just cannot heal above your recoverable health with TM. If you want to heal above it you need to use Lifedrain or drink a healing potion.

[hardy stump]

TM is a bandage now instead of a potion if you know what I mean

[elfin fern]

potion but worse

[fervent anvil]

busy uploading a shit ton of stuff for uni right now so ill mess around with it later. am using halber/crystal sword. no idea how well the parrying will go with those

[wild eagle]

Does the Ghost King's drop pool include every artifact now?

[fair geode]

Okok

[prisma crypt]

Does anyone know if the goblin merchant returns items from HR?

[copper lava]

Not sure how much affinity you need. But eventually yes

[grand patio]

Everyone, do your quests the game will be a lot more fun and more playable without spending 20k per kit

[hardy stump]

he does, but how many and how often depends on affinity

[restive lichen]

Why tf is everyone playing barb, fighter, cleric, warlock now?? I have not seen a single team that is not melee only for 3 games. Boring shit

[fervent anvil]

cause thats what people think is the current meta

[vivid umbra]

ok for anyone wondering, somehow today it works

[paper knoll]

anyone with error code :21???

[halcyon kite]

It drops fulgar 100% certain of that.

[weary crystal]

someone knows where i find Chapel? cant find it for quest

[halcyon kite]

All it takes is a sorc, wiz, (anything else) to cook that frontline heavy team lol

Sorc, wiz, bard, keep spacing, make the barb fight in a door, gg.

[torn fiber]

not opening arena this week.... yall love losing players huh?

[halcyon kite]

Assuming they are all geared/skilled the same.

[halcyon kite]

Consider it a week to farm gear before the actual leaderboards start.

Also no trollsblood was dropping for two weeks.

Super important for that warlord climb, I was using one nearly every round at some points.

[radiant notch]

longsword players are actually the worst why nerf the ripostes of other weapons and leave the longsword untouched

[halcyon kite]

They have nerfed longsword so many times lol

More than any weapon, easily.

[radiant notch]

its just parrying in general u can flick your mouse around randomly

horrible parry system, you should only be able to riposte if you hold block for no longer than 0.5 seconds

[halcyon kite]

The hitbox on longsword parry sucks compared to rapier, spear, cutlass.

Rapier is actually broken, I think, it seems to proc even if I didn’t feel like they connected lol

[radiant notch]

its way easier to manipulate around rapier tho compared to longsword

[radiant notch]

it might be an audio bug

[halcyon kite]

Like a perfect parry type of deal?

Kingdomcome deliverance style lol

[magic thunder]

wheres the best spot to complete the slime and wisp quests

[radiant notch]

well ya bc thats the only way to reward skill

it makes no sense that someone who holds a block for 3 or 4 seconds gets rewarded with a parry and riposte

EVERY other game has it that way too

[halcyon kite]

Ruins, there are quite a few modules with both slimes and wisps, mostly around the outside of the map. There could be a forest one around the 2nd zone in.

[tulip arch]

anyone know if two hander and reckless attack could work with hurl weapon?

[halcyon kite]

At least you can aim low or swipe if they are holding the block. I like to jiggle, aim up then drag across to aim low, usually get a headshot with something like a mace or warhammer, they expect it to be coming from the top.

[sage kite]

@zinc sparrow can you fix the random fire eruption spots on phase 3 of the fire colossus that deal an insane amount of damage. Literally, cannot stand anywhere without taking absurd amounts of damage. Or is there some hidden technique where to not take damage.

[main lintel]

does warlock take more than 95% of hp from lich purple circle with phantomize on?

[halcyon kite]

I think the point is to heal through that, which seems impossible on some classes tbh. I haven’t figured it out yet, but some videos just show bards chugging ale with a green+ healing pot going.

Warlock, hydra, life drain through it, with curses on the boss and a health pot going.

[sage kite]

no way, you could be at 1/2 hp in a second just standing on the floor.

maybe theres suppose to be a fire prot pot

[halcyon kite]

Is it a visual bug? I thought there was safe spots behind him. Very small.

There is the fire protection shrines?

[tulip arch]

guys how can i get a new class role

[halcyon kite]

They don’t last long without buff duration.

[halcyon kite]

Channels and roles at the very top above all the channels.

[tulip arch]

thx bbg

[halcyon kite]

Anytime bud

[tired pike]

this game is so fucking hard to defend some times. copper ore give you 1 ore per node. if im lucky ill get 1 to 2 bars worth of ore in a raid. thats 2-3 raids for a single piece of green copper gear which is gonna roll a useless stat 90% of the time anyway.

[open seal]

☝️

[tired pike]

game is so ass

[sage kite]

hr copper nodes give like 6 pieces per node and there are way more nodes. you can also gem gear with goldsmith is the rolls are trash

[tired pike]

who is running HR and collecting copper for green level armor?

[sage kite]

at lot of people need it from rings and necklaces too

[tired pike]

yeah the ore. but im talking about the gear, green gear should be readily and easily available, not multiple raids to build a piece unless you already playing HR. im not an HR junky

i wish with all my soul that there was another game out there that played/looked/felt like dark and darker, cuz i really dont like this games core. i dont like full looters but i like everything else about DaD

[lapis quest]

Huh are you playing pve lol

[tired pike]

i play almost exclusively PVE or squire to riches. questing and having fun with my friends.

[half zenith]

Squire never gets quiver does it?

[half zenith]

squire to riches is not 1 node per ore only PVE

[fervent anvil]

you get more ore in the riskier gamemodes. higher risk. higher reward

[tired pike]

yeah thats what i dont like about the game. im not a high risk player. i dont enjoy looters, but i enjoy DaDs gameplay

[lapis quest]

Well thats your own problem dont complain about a game your not willing to play

[fervent anvil]

this game is about taking risks with the things you have to earn more things. if you dont want to take the risks you dont get the rewards.

[tired pike]

good to know the ore is better in squire though, even though thats a BR and its highly unlikely im gonna be the final winner any majority of the time haha. just play it for fun and the pvp itch

[tired pike]

yes im well aware. im not confused about it. im just saying i wish there was a game like DaD that was different cuz thats not my style

its just odd that low level green gear is still hard to get on easy mode

[pallid hemlock]

its not actually set up like a proper BR you can still escape with out fighting or being last survivor

[lapis quest]

But its not thats the point

[tired pike]

no i cant. whenever i play squire, players sniff me out anywhere and willl chase me to hell and back even naked haha

[fervent anvil]

unreal engine is free to use. you could go make one :D

[lapis quest]

So adapt and learn pvp

[tired pike]

yes it is. multiple raids to earn enough for each piece of a green set of gear is a little harsh in my opinion

[pallid hemlock]

well this game has a render distance of 15 feet so idk how theyre doing that

[tired pike]

i know pvp. but mathmatically im not likely to win a BR most of the time. therefore no gains

[halcyon kite]

It’s only 1 on PvE….

[tired pike]

had a whole team swimming after me on water map for the entire game while i boated around haha

[pallid hemlock]

oh. well boats have bigger render distance, you have to swim underwater with no potions on your belt, best way to stay hidden

[lapis quest]

Your just wrong in both statements you could easily get a full set of copper gear in two raids, and dont play the br mode play norms. The gear dif is not that crazy

[tired pike]

yeah but they were keeping up so if i got off the boat id have died

[halcyon kite]

There is nothing wrong with playing that way. People tend to forget that PvE is a paid experience.

[pallid hemlock]

well try to avoid using boats if youre solo

[tired pike]

thats just not true. ive been playing 4-5 pve raids so far and can get like 2 pieces. other people are farming it and its 1 ore per in pve

[lapis quest]

Please reread my message

[tired pike]

you said i could get a full set of copper in two raids, but you talking about playing the PVP modes that i dont like 🤷 i dont know.. i like pvp but i dont like full risk pvp. thats why i play squire

whenever me and my friends do splash out for BIS and go HR or something, it doesnt matter cuz everybody else in bis too, so its all relative hahaha

[halcyon kite]

I think it’s rng between 1-3 pieces for green+ rarity ore. I have farmed a full 6 stack of iron from one node on PvE this wipe.

[tired pike]

idk im off on a bunch of tangents now, my original point was that i shouldnt have to play HR to make a green set 🤷 but maybe the players like it that way. i am an outlyer in this game

[halcyon kite]

Trust me when I say, you are not. When they released adventure mode, it was the second biggest spike in sales.

[acoustic plover]

how the hell do you find greens in hr?

[lapis quest]

You can go norms in squire bruh

[lapis quest]

Omg your just wrong

[fervent anvil]

???????? you dont find shit for greens in hr. greens mostly come from norms and pve

[halcyon kite]

He is talking about green ore. Mindlessly responding without reading is kinda cringe.

[acoustic plover]

i read what he said he said greens not green ore lmao

[halcyon kite]

Crafting a green set.

[lapis quest]

Hes just baiting i refuse to believe that someone can keep glossing over the fact that you get more ore in norms which can be ran for free

[halcyon kite]

It’s a whole thing man. People paid for PvE. Literally bought the game when PvE mode came out. For most of us, it’s just an addition to what we already knew. Just look at it from that point of view and think about if those players have been treated fairly.

Iron Mace advertised the PvE mode very heavily. We seen a surge of players, then it just all got slammed into the ground.

[mystic sky]

Why aren't there more twitch drops?

[acoustic plover]

i want chests from twitch lets go

[mystic sky]

Hell yeah lmao

I want more view-botting for free coin bags, I'd be happy with that

[tired pike]

i was talking about mining ore for copper... ???

[tired pike]

we were talking about ore giving more ore in HR cuz i was talking about making a green copper set but PVE only giving 1 each

[mystic sky]

To be fair you can get like 5 copper ore in pve goblin caves per run if you're efficient, on HR the nodes just last longer

[tired pike]

yeah that is consistent with my original statement, that means 2-3 raids per piece of green equipment which i find strange, then somebody said HR gives more and im like, why would i farm copper in HR? if you playing HR you shouldnt need the copper lol

except for jewelry now i guess but not my point

[mystic sky]

That's a good point. I think it's because copper is also used to make magic jewerly

Yeah

Also some green pieces like the copperlights are really good because of the movespeed bonus

Maybe we should have highroller pve Add skeleton champions everywhere

[tired pike]

yeah but who is gonna wear a green set for a bit of movespeed compared to a bis blue or decent purp set? i just think green sets should be super easy for us lesser players to obtain, but they tied the same resource to jewelry now which is just one in a long list of questionable decisions by the devs

[mystic sky]

I think copperlights should be much higher quality, they're actually better than most blue pieces IMO. Now you need like +5 agility or something to get the same movespeed as a copperlight. But they probably made it green just so it wouldn't have more random stats, definitely not beginner gear imo

[tired pike]

now the same resource used for beginner gear is going to inflate on the market because its also the only way to get jewelry now lol

i guess i can see that but then theres no option for crafting any beginner gear at all haha

[mystic sky]

You'd be correct :^) You can do quests and buy green pieces from the merchants though

For PvE you probably don't want copperlight anyway since most of them have low armor rating, but a couple of them would be really useful I guess

[tired pike]

my ultimate point is that the game is a full looter with full focus on the highest end risk vs reward which im just not that into, its also super half baked in all areas. crafting, arena, etc.

[mystic sky]

Makes me feel like crafting a straw hat just because they made it so the copperlight can be worn by more classes. Why can't I get a normal straw hat on my wizard? >:(

[tired pike]

and then the merchant doesnt even have white dark plate in stock for crafting the copperlight 😭

[acoustic plover]

thats literally what extraction games are dude if its not your genera why play it?

[tired pike]

ive already explained. i like the game hate the game mode

name another multiplayer game like dark and darker gameplay

thats not janky trash

i like pvp, but i dont like full risk pvp

[acoustic plover]

escape from tarkov is the same game just shooter instead of fantasy

[willow herald]

guys , how do i fix " failed to connect to server . quit the game " ???? . it seems the only way to fix it is through using a VPN , but ping is too high , so its unplayable . plz help

[tired pike]

yeah i meant plays like dark and darker but is a different mode than looter

if there was an MMO or otherwise multiplayer RPG in the style of dark and darker id live inside the game

[acoustic plover]

none that compare thats why we play it 🙂 right

[tired pike]

yes thats what i said haha

so for now i play pve and do quests with my friends and simply dream of what could be

[mystic sky]

There's The Midnight Walkers, but that one is new and rough around the edges, and almost all extraction 'shooter' games are trying to imitate the same formula about high risk pvp

It's almost like game devs have forgotten that hardcore games don't attract larger crowds. An adventure focused game with pvp on the side would definitely get more people imo

[tired pike]

im just waiting for someone to make the DaD MMO. extraction games are old news imo

its a totally untapped market too, theres no modern, smooth playing first person fantasy MMO. there have been games like this in the past but all janky/indie/trash

[mystic sky]

If they didn't focus 95% of their time in doing bs pvp focused balance changes that they're gonna rollback every 3 months then maybe we'd get more maps and MMO features, like slightly better enemy AI, variety, harder PvE, etc.

So I get that sentiment

[solar laurel]

Anyone else getting a bug where the game 'installs' instantly but then crashes after asking for a file check? If I try to reinstall, it says 0 GB required. Any fixes?

[tired pike]

imagine they just added guilds, guild battles, professions, and raids to dark and darker haha

[mystic sky]

Imagine they added all the features that the mobile version of the game had lol It already had all that

I wonder why that one was taken down

It had guilds, free meeting hall (the feature IM kept trying to charge players for), it had quest markers on the map to make questing less annoying, etc.

It even had cosmetics, player customization and pets, it's crazy how much ahead it was

In here if you wanna play Rogue, Cleric or Evil Cleric you have to be bald, just because

In the mobile version you could make your own faces, pick hairstyles, all the works

[wraith sigil]

Where do you find wooden masks??

[mystic sky]

If anything, the new skills are a step in the right direction IMO. The whirlwind skill from barb was actually in the mobile game first

[lapis quest]

Play normal oml

[lapis quest]

Theres a reason for this

[mystic sky]

Almost no one makes first person mmos unless it's shooter games

[lapis sigil]

remove other people in pve already, its fking pointless

[mystic sky]

Actually, other people are either to a) help newer players or b) ruin your quests

[lapis quest]

Think about this statement from a game dev pov for a sec

[lapis sigil]

tf is there to think about

[acoustic plover]

i agree pve should honestly be personal because everything is ran through so quick you cant do squat

[mystic sky]

I think pve makes perfect sense since they already have the game setup to have lobbies full of people, and it's fun to team up in-game sometimes. But they could reduce the number of players and it wouldn't be bad either.

[lapis quest]

If ironmace provides everyone with a empty lobby with no players; the strain on the severs would be crazy

[cinder oxide]

Ironmace please give Cleric another attack spell that doesn't require channeling

[agile pagoda]

Does anyone else ever experience like textures taking a second to load or changing as you get closer to them?

[lapis sigil]

@lapis quest you're stupid af. tarkov does it locally, they can do it too.

[lapis quest]

Ironmace never do this

[mystic sky]

Doesn't that lead to people hacking the game?

[lapis quest]

Tarkov charges 140 to play the full game

[lapis sigil]

so what? its still ran locally. how is that a point. theres plenty of people that want a nice pve experience. tarkov did it and 50% of its playerbase is pve.

tarkov had the same moronic thought process for 7 years then they finally realised what they been missing and released it and guess what, people play it

[formal swallow]

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[daring slate]

where do I find the armillary sphere on watermap?

[acoustic plover]

i think its a lot more than 5x lol

[formal swallow]

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[mystic sky]

And hackers from what I hear, are even worse in tarkov

[formal swallow]

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[lapis sigil]

pointless, im talking about the ideal pve character slot, so that pvp junkies dont get mad

[velvet valley]

guys how is dark and dark now i havent played in almost a year now

[lapis quest]

This would be great but the vast majority of people would not be able to run a raid of darker solely on there computer

[formal swallow]

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[mystic sky]

That said, if we had more casuals on PvE we would have way better pvp too, because people would eventually try to "level up" their gameplay and we'd see more fresh meat

[lapis sigil]

@lapis quest you think adding servers against getting people to play it wont balance itself out? did you not read what i said? tarkov did it and half its playerbase is now exclusively on pve.

[velvet valley]

[formal swallow]

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[mystic sky]

That's true, DaD has no tutorial, nothing to explain anything, bad default controls, etc.

[lapis quest]

Right but they have to run the sever locally and like i said the vast majority of people couldn’t not run it. It would tank performance and be unplayable

[mystic sky]

Even the mobile version had a tutorial

[lapis sigil]

tarkov had no tutorial for 7+ years either. if people like the game they will sit and learn it.

[mystic sky]

Mobile DaD had a tutorial, there's no excuse tbh

[formal swallow]

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[lapis sigil]

@lapis quest your comments are giving me a headache. tarkov runs x5 worse as you said and people still play it. get a better pc, tf do you want me to say

[formal swallow]

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[mystic sky]

I have a friend who picked up DaD mobile when there were only 2 weeks left. He no-lifed the game; recently he tried DaD PC after the mobile version closed, and he only played like 2-3 games

[acoustic plover]

i feel like spawning on top of people gets annoying tbh ive died by spawning right infront of people with my back to them and not expecting someone to be 2 feet behind me lol

[mystic sky]

And with this I want to say that I think the QoL matters a lot for getting new players

[lapis quest]

I dont want you to say anything about how it would affect the way people play, i simply ask to think about it from a game devs pov. You would need a beefy computer that most people might not be able to afford

[lapis sigil]

@formal swallow where exactly did you pinpoint im not calm? i meant in this chat it was said in general lil bro.

[lapis quest]

Tbf they were not exactly the same game

[lapis sigil]

@lapis quest there is no need to think it about a game dev point of view since another dev already made it happen, on a much more demanding game and people still played it, are you okay?

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[lapis sigil]

@formal swallow politician lvl arguement

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[lapis quest]

Again tarkov has probably 3xs the budget of ironmace can you get your head out your ahh

[velvet valley]

;p just sitting here creeping

[acoustic plover]

budget is based on how much you attract players though lol

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[lapis sigil]

foget it bro, dont even try, kids are too stoned to realise facts

[lapis quest]

Yea i understand this, how is this relevant

[lapis quest]

Holy cope

[mystic sky]

The mobile version felt way more pve focused, and not in a bad way. I think it had a lot of things that made people want to keep coming back, like the current daily quests (which are in a good spot right now)

[lapis sigil]

yeah holy cope when the game dies like a wet dog.

already on life support cause of braindead thoughts like yours

[mystic sky]

I think dingus may be a graysun alt but I agree with his points

[lapis quest]

Haveing 5k concurrent is not dead lol

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[lapis quest]

Like what pve is not the main focus of the game. It like saying fortnite main focus is save the world

[dawn monolith]

Are we in here stroking out over dark darker rage baits again? Remember yall are fighting over a third person's decisions that neither of you have control of

[acoustic plover]

i dont play pve but i do think a buyable option for pve would create a large fund option to help better the game

[mystic sky]

[lapis quest]

Sure but it would have to be sustainable. He was asking for it to ran locally which is not feasible for most players

[acoustic plover]

idk how you figure that locally ran games are better than not tbh as far as smoothness goes

[lapis quest]

Your using your computers resources to run the game not the severs it common sense

[acoustic plover]

lol

[mystic sky]

Dingus probably has insider knowledge, but to make a server-coded game run locally they'd probably have to re-code a lot of things to make it work, or have it run your own server locally (which is probably what he's referring to as needing as stronger PC)

[acoustic plover]

if you can run it you can run it locally tbf

[lapis quest]

Balright

[lapis quest]

I have all the insider knowledge pregnant goblin is next wipe get hype

[lapis quest]

Nope not how that work

Just look up tarkovs version it runs horribly on most computers

[acoustic plover]

thats a coding issue not a locally ran issue both sides run like ass lol

[lapis quest]

Its like running a minecraft sever from your computer. Now thats a little extreme but it basically the same

[dapper thistle]

when does market open

[acoustic plover]

i think 5 days?

[lapis quest]

You would need at least a ryzen 7 with 16-32 gs of ram

[dapper thistle]

ty

[mystic sky]

To be fair minecraft servers are super lightweight. It's hardly felt

You can have like 20 servers open and you wouldn't notice

[lapis quest]

Rly i would think there a little more labor intensive than that

[mystic sky]

But it's also a game that was made to run locally, and the server is like an extension

[lapis quest]

Right

[mystic sky]

I think that's the main difference, the fact it was made to be local-only first

Online games tend to be made to be run only from servers, and then the server infrastructure is probably way bigger?

[lapis sigil]

been running tarkov singleplayer servers since 2018, the only thing putting strain is the active AIs and the loot generation, game runs identically other than that, but let that guy pop off hes a genius

compared to tarkov, DNDs maps and loot and ai is way less intense.

[amber plaza]

What is a good weapon for pvp for fighter

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[amber plaza]

I don't know what that is

[fervent anvil]

its whatever weapon you feel the best with. could be longsword. could be arming sword. could even be morning star. just use what your used to

[mystic sky]

Halberd has the best reach, but every weapon is usable

[acoustic plover]

imagine teaming in solos just to get killed and banned oof

[lime pine]

Bruh, whys arena closed...

[dawn monolith]

That don't get boring? I'm not in this argument but I feel like sp tarlov would get stale. Same with any extraction game.

[elfin oyster]

still getting error 21

W game

[pallid hemlock]

i havent played singleplayer but i think theres a lot of mods available to expand and add maps and AI

but yah i would get bored of that

[dawn monolith]

I mean no judgement either way. If your enjoying it your enjoying it. I never played alot of tarkov so I'm also 100% asking from inexperience

[neon lake]

Yo does cyclops drop troll pelt and blood?

[flint marlin]

ngl i love seeing 8k players online rn

hope it continues to grow again

[dawn monolith]

Won't lie that message changes fast when you didn't have second msg lol

[flint marlin]

nah man, its a great game. wish my homies still played, hard to find teammates when youre just getting back into it

[dawn monolith]

I was like oh great the doom sayers are coming out xD

[vague mantle]

how do you unlock forest hood in the squire?

[dawn monolith]

I agree. My friends all still have bad tastes in there mouth from last experiences but it sucks cause this seasons been a w ( yeah yeah barb op)

[dawn monolith]

Unless they changed it since last season troll drops pelt clops drops eye and blood

[neon lake]

But I’m assuming troll drops blood too right? Lol thank you for the response!

[acoustic plover]

both drop blood i think

[dawn monolith]

Sorry I meant troll drops blood. They might both now. I haven't really bossed this season

[acoustic plover]

i know cyclops drops blood 100% certain

[dawn monolith]

Than I think it's both now yeah

Iv legit just been mini boss farming for uniques. Shit is addicting with how wild the rolls can be

My friend got a str cape with 45 armour. The dopamine is chefs kiss