game-discussion

[meager berry]

nor or hr? ive killed like 20-30 got none but ive been in hr

[keen mauve]

RNG hates you

[noble wren]

Only need to kill 7 mobs

Then you can Faustian

[hollow idol]

Anyone Know where wardweed is now?

is it still goblin caves?

[noble wren]

Think so

[hollow idol]

okay ill look again

[plain marlin]

i saw wardweeds in goblin caves, some of them was near skeleton champion near cyclops

[cloud musk]

comes with practice

[placid coyote]

No amount of skill can save you, theres no skill ladder anymore. Loot is absolute dog. Goblin Recovery and questing is a thing for the jobless, and going down to hell makes the game a complete battle royale. Well done SDF you've done it again kill the game harder pls

[hollow idol]

i found one, they are in goblin caves, i had to use the druid and herbal sensing lol

[plain marlin]

i heard hitting using whirlwind takes alot of skill, true no?

[cloud musk]

find hapiness.

[vagrant dawn]

I like how the felling axe became borderline useless due to the movement changes.

[deep helm]

now that i dont have the quest i found a sturdy cloth on my first game lol

[placid coyote]

Takes three maybe five runs to make ONE set of blue jewelry and then what I lose it and have to full prioritize the materials for another three games just for one more set. Id rather play any other mindless game than put in all the effort to get dunked on by one barb spin

[digital bobcat]

Can somebody tell me when the market opens? I’ve been on a work trip for the last week and don’t come back for three more days.

[placid coyote]

🥾👅I know what happiness is, thats why I dont play the game when its dog

[wary ice]

gentlemen where can we find awls and bellows?

[upbeat yew]

Yeah man, that's how extraction games work.

[cloud musk]

have u tried winning? so it doesn't take u 5 runs to rebuild ur kits?

[placid coyote]

Lmfao one come up in arc raiders, you could have 5 plus kits man. This game you'd be lucky to get two sets with no jewelry btw cause its not in the game....

[cloud musk]

bellows from wraith and awls from skele footman i think

[upbeat yew]

You can play for fun too, you don't have to have a full kit.

[warm tendon]

Awls drop from spearman and halberdiers

[eternal jacinth]

Do awels and bellows drop in pve?

[warm tendon]

Yes

[cloud musk]

👍

[placid coyote]

You're so right man I would have fun in squire if I didnt feel like a weak snail waiting to be stepped on or have some salt poured on me. Easier to be a naked barb than a naked wiz

[gritty flume]

melee is disgustingly overpowered right now right, bard and barb are completely unmanageable to deal with

[subtle heart]

Of the same type right?

[placid coyote]

Ya casters have to be the worst in the game or big guy at the top will say they're too OP

[upbeat yew]

I'll give you that one. Wizard is in a bad state.

[placid coyote]

The game is leagues more fun when you have more health to display your skill in a fight easier. Its so boring when eveything and everyone is dying in two maybe four hits

[brittle bluff]

Anyone can help?
50% times i load into game - it can drop me to the Expressman lobby to spectate. There is no chance to do smth or even exit the game. Even if i go Alt + F4 it loads me back to bugged spectator mode.

[hot walrus]

dumb question does troll pelt drop in pve mode?

[subtle heart]

Lag

[brittle bluff]

Maybe any chances to solve it?

[subtle heart]

Probably get better internet or pc, but I really don’t know it depends on if you have problems in other games

[upbeat yew]

Make sure you're on the right server for your region too

[brittle bluff]

Ofc not. And i have good PC

[woeful topaz]

does anyone else get kicked connection terminated every few games?

[gloomy gale]

@upbeat yewtheyre still decent, but gotta wiz in duos or trios

[smoky jetty]

buff pengu

[placid coyote]

Just smoked came back to say game is dog right now and I dont know how dis is more fun. Not funer no. Me want more health, more spells, me understand large game change, me want faster changes after big change cause is early wipe with ssf, winning important

[gritty flume]

fuming at the fact they nerfed sorc to make it unplayable in squire gear. class needs 10 spells to function at all and you can only equip 7

[noble wren]

Nope. Just 7 mobs. I don’t think mummy spiders count. Not 100%

[subtle heart]

[subtle heart]

So you just get respawned as one of them randomly? I wish I could be respawned as a wisp or a subboss

[placid coyote]

On God they fail to adjust the curve to effect high end but not low-end much to often. In this case changing raw numericals crushing the class overall instead of high end ON ITS MOST IMPORTANT SPELLS BTW ITS LITERAL CLASS IDENTITY

[dire crystal]

Happens to me sometimes, nowhere near that often tho

[placid coyote]

On the class WHOS IDENTITY is to MERGE SPELLS and it requires a perk slot lose to do such flawless game design truly

[subtle heart]

This shit is too hard i literally found players teaming against me (a skeleton) in solos

[gloomy gale]

@placid coyotei mean, no merge sorc still runs shit

[gritty flume]

Facts I have to put on blues to even play the game just to get ran down on sight by bard/barbarian guaranteed death

[sinful fern]

is the migration stuff working again or no?

[placid coyote]

Its so chalked bro why do the Frontline of the game have to press one button to be suddenly the fastest while move speed characters have to press potentially 3 or more for the same move speed bonus if not LESS

[clear pendant]

bad state?

[placid coyote]

I love the game man I just want cool progression when its slow theres the long painful metas and I can't deal 😢

Ssf is almost over and I wanted to play casters not barb

[gritty flume]

two week or less ssf is necessary if some classes just don't work in squire gear

[solid plaza]

whats the difference between physical power and phys damage bonus

[placid coyote]

Wiz's been in a bad state for me ever since they took away walking with clarity pots. That was fun when I was geared I didnt have to sit. And I could get crazy spells with clarity potions and camp

[surreal agate]

where i find stone mortar?

[warm tendon]

Skeleton mages

[placid coyote]

Skele mage, my liege

[upbeat yew]

Largely untouched for the past few wipes, kind of lacking in variety, and generally weak early game, not too much better mid-game.

[lime pine]

Anyone got the bug where the stingray kills you when phase changing even if you are in the bubble?

[noble wren]

🤣 would be sick. Yeah it spawns you as a random mob from whatever map you’re on. I always do goblin caves when I do my faustians.

[wraith egret]

no wonder game is dying when ironmace doesnt care about the braindead spinning barbarians

[harsh frost]

whats the max gear quality for arena ?

rare or like epic or leg

[granite hamlet]

chat what can drop viola rn?

[stone panther]

epic

[smoky jetty]

[subtle heart]

Any recommendations for what to get? Like some secret pro knowledge?

I’m probably just gonna get the pendant

[hard harness]

NERF BARB NERF BARB NERF BARB NERF BARB NERF BARB

[clear pendant]

wizard was the most broken class since game is game, and atm is the best caster in trios by far

[nocturne nest]

i love haste

[whole robin]

Guys is there a better alternative to this game

[nocturne nest]

there's an mmo but it sucks

[whole robin]

Which one

[nocturne nest]

look into mortal online 2

[whole robin]

Ah it is terrible indeed

[nocturne nest]

bannerlord had a russian configure his own mmo server also but clearly there's no fantasy in that setting

[subtle heart]

If they nerfed barb I genuinely feel we would have perfect balance, don’t know why they decided to add whirlwind

[warm umbra]

Sdf mains barb

[round tundra]

Thanks!

[upbeat yew]

That's fair, I wouldn't know for trios since I only do solo and duos for the most part.

[subtle heart]

Don’t doubt it at all, he probably only knows how to press w and left click

[trim onyx]

anyone get a sliver chalice?

[subtle heart]

Nope, it’s a scam to get you to spend 12 hours a day playing for some reason

Why would you require such a stupidly rare item for a quest

[gritty flume]

lol i spawned in water map and within 30 seconds a silent fishman trapped me in terrain and killed me. done with this game for today, there's too much wrong with it to even deal with the bs it's capable of. Wish this game was good but it's just not gonna happen. One of the worst, most frustrating games i've ever had the displeasure of experiencing

[noble wren]

You don’t get to pick what you get.

[subtle heart]

I mean what you buy

I have no idea what the powder is for example

[noble wren]

I think maybe you are getting your conversations mixed or I missed something 😝

Was talking about Faustian bargains

[subtle heart]

Yeah I meant like what you get from the dealer merchant after you complete the quest since you seem like you’ve done it a few times

[upbeat yew]

You are never obligated to play anything brother, it's okay to step away

[noble wren]

Oohhhhh! I actually haven’t bought anything yet. Probably will buy a ring.

[keen mauve]

Bro got done in by a fishman

[noble wren]

Bye, Felicia.

[upbeat yew]

Jewelry is a real good choice since you can't find it in the dungeon right now

[noble wren]

Yeah that was my logic. Cant you get chests/coin bags? Feel like I’ve read that from someone.

[upbeat yew]

I haven't seen them, but I haven't been looking for them too hard either

[silent spruce]

you can get them from treasure hoards but they're extremely rare

[lean spindle]

I'd love to see the ability to turn off torches and lanterns while holding them (keeping the speed bonus) much like when they go submerged and turn off until you are out of water and re-equip them.

[silent spruce]

lantern rogue meta

[drowsy vortex]

shits way to continous atm. always last team in wins I am seeing nothing else

[pallid palm]

Havent played in a while - What is "test mode" "enforcer rating very low" ?

[noble wren]

yeah I knew that one. Just thought I saw someone say you could get em from dealmaker too.

[silent spruce]

nah thats not true

[noble wren]

word

[silent spruce]

you can get the crafting materials for pouches from dealmaker but thats about it

[noble wren]

aaa ok

[silent spruce]

maybe they meant the valentine guy

[noble wren]

yeah possibly

[lean spindle]

I think the lantern would be decently balanced cause everyone could use it and it disables parrying, now that it is so strong

[noble wren]

or i could just be making this all up 😄

[robust otter]

can we please remove the debuff on dwarf so we can play little rogues

[silent spruce]

dwarf does not need a buff lol

its already really strong tbh

[lean spindle]

I use only dwarf on all classes, I think the benefits outweigh the downsides a lot. I love using them.

[cloud musk]

dwarf is so bad, why would u make urself slower in the exchange of harder to headshot ur enemies + enemies headshot u easier?

[silent spruce]

shields

and parrying

its the best tank class

[cloud musk]

its never worth it imo

[silent spruce]

it absolutely is

its nearly impossible to hit a dwarf holding a doorway with a heater shield

you can completely lock ppl out of an area by just blocking

its a team based race

[cloud musk]

what about the spells specifically made for this?

[silent spruce]

run a cleric

and it still locks out melee classes

you can just say no to any melee class pushing you

and just completely lock them out of pushing ur teammates

while you have a backliner just spam attacks from behind you

[cloud musk]

just bcz it works in normals doesn't mean it works in hr, me personally i haven't lost to a dwarf this whole wipe

[silent spruce]

thats because almost no one runs and almost no one runs it properly

dwarf is a purely tank class

its just there to tank and tell ppl to screw off

[cloud musk]

eh maybe

[silent spruce]

a pavisse dwarf is actually impossible to hit with melee attacks as far as i know

the shield is bigger then them

[cloud musk]

u can start the attack animation from the other side of the shield and hit if u know how to

if u are really close to him

[silent spruce]

they can just hold a door and a corner

[cloud musk]

well if u hold a corner u are useless in the fight anyways lol

[silent spruce]

and they can also run shield bash

[lime pine]

Bruh is something wrong with the bubble in stingray? I died 2 times in the bubble when phase changing.

[silent spruce]

being able to become effectively immortal is pretty good

they can just switch back to their weapon as soon as you attack them again

or just force the person to disengage

again as i said its purely for tanking or parrying

[cloud musk]

splash fireball for antiheal into 2 lighting strikes = ur gone , locust = gone , the sorc has like 3 different tools he can use lol

[silent spruce]

run a cleric

and again its meant to counter melee classes

[nimble surge]

is arena purple only?

[fervent magnet]

dwarf is as bad as this argument is

[silent spruce]

you've just been ignoring my points lol

magic counters dwarf the same way dwarf counter melee classes

[nimble surge]

Is arena purple self found still?

[silent spruce]

and -10 movespeed if ur running plate really doesnt matter all that much

since you're already slow as shit

[cloud musk]

i mean being 280 ms sure feels better than 270

[silent spruce]

thats like saying oh mage is worthless because you can just get silenced by a rogue and murderered in 2 seconds

[silent spruce]

its a downside but its not that impactful if you're playing as a tank for ur team

again you're just a wall thats meant to deter ppl from getting close to ur backliner

[fickle marlin]

Dwarf is only good with pavise if youre memeing

[silent spruce]

its good with heater

[fickle marlin]

Otherwise it's complete dogshi and youre trolling in hr

[cloud musk]

do u have any videos i really wanna see ur vision ?

[slow scaffold]

I’m glad someone else was here to say it.

[fickle marlin]

So I come back to this game and it's all crush barbs with whirlwind and gear is gated behind stingray and uniques and unique gems are completely useless so all of my friends are quitting AGAIN lmao

[robust otter]

@silent spruce just because you watched 1 ken video of solar holding a door with a shield doesn't mean its viable in most situations

[silent spruce]

who

and again its meant to counter specific types of builds

like some stuff can be good for some things and bad for some others and thats fine

thats like saying ironwill is useless because it only works against mages

[fleet surge]

I think i hear the wambulance coming

[upbeat yew]

Sometimes it's okay for things to be good only for trolling

[silent spruce]

if ur definition of trolling is something not being minmaxed to oblivion to be as meta as possible sure

[upbeat yew]

Much as SDF is trolling me with green ceremonial daggers

[fickle marlin]

-10ms will never be good for only a slightly smaller hitbox. They could've made it -3 or -5 and people still wouldnt use it.

[upbeat yew]

I'm on your side here; I think dwarf has its purpose, and I don't actually think it's only trolling

[silent spruce]

-10ms isnt a huge downside if you're already playing a tank who's job is just to hold the frontline

you can still back off with that movespeed with reasonable speed

obviously theres situations where its worser then having no race

but thats how it should be

[eager comet]

Can mystical gem room drop an artifact in hr

[fickle marlin]

Ms is important for everyone, just less important in trios. But it still matters. That smaller hitbox isnt making it impossible to hit you, it's barely noticably.

[silent spruce]

it really is noticeable

[fickle marlin]

Not with a heater shield I hit dwarves feet all the time lol

[clever pagoda]

Best class atm in your opinion?

[silent spruce]

thats why you can also just run a cleric to go with them to make them into a meat shield

also saying that oh i can hit ppl like that doesnt really mean anything when it mostly comes to skill level

thats like saying oh shields are useless because i can hit ppl blocking

[slow scaffold]

Dwarf is still a troll vs a class with +10 move speed . It’s a meme build if your building to be a meme then say that but being a dwarf isn’t more viable then a regular race because he has a pavize that is the size of his body . A regular race can do the exact same thing and when they need to back out they are fast enough to actually retreat . Dwarf is a troll and meme build. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. Still throwing when you use it .

[silent spruce]

again you're meant to be a tank with it

its a class for the ppl that are trying to be defensive and protect their teammates

not chasing ppl around

oh dwarf sucks because i cant outspeed ppl that dont have dwarf

its almost like its not what the race is designed to do

[full monolith]

how long does valentine stay

[silent spruce]

probably 2 months ish

[slow scaffold]

Yes just say its a less viable tank then

[silent spruce]

it really isnt

[slow scaffold]

You think being a foot shorter is that much of an advantage huh?

[full monolith]

do shields and weapons stay the same size on dwarf?

[silent spruce]

yes

[slow scaffold]

Have you played this playstyle?

[silent spruce]

i have

[slow scaffold]

Post a clip

[full monolith]

if weapons are the same size thats cracked

[eager comet]

can mystical gem room drop artifacts in hr?

[slow scaffold]

Where is was viable for you

[silent spruce]

tanking for my teammates

its also generally easier to block people

[full monolith]

heater shield probably covers entire dwarf lol

[silent spruce]

it nearly does

[slow scaffold]

Yup and you cant run when anyone chases you or gets on you

[silent spruce]

you can still hit their feet though but thats lower their dps pretty severely

[slow scaffold]

You have to be a sitting duck holding a pavise

[silent spruce]

thats what ur backliners are for

[full monolith]

i can see that being good, just not gonna be good at chasing

[slow scaffold]

Okay so dward is only viable for trios

[silent spruce]

you're just there to prevent them from getting rushed down and just let them do their thing

[slow scaffold]

or duos ?

[silent spruce]

on solo its pretty bad outside of fighting melee classes

[slow scaffold]

GG

[silent spruce]

but it is funny to shutdown the barbs and fighters sometime

[full monolith]

sprint and adrenaline rush dwarf would fix that

[silent spruce]

it can but not that well

you're still losing a big chunk of ms

imo its better to just go full tank

[silent spruce]

you say that like i was saying it was good for solo

i said its situational

[slow scaffold]

Not at all

Im just saying overall gg

[silent spruce]

its good in the thing it does but trades off other stuff for it

[royal prism]

painful steps most braindead room design in game history, pog

[slow scaffold]

I can see how it is . Then you also have to have a team who knows how to kite and now w key

Too many variables for me not to wanna play that race

Ive yet to see a dwarf play good or correctly

[silent spruce]

thats fine its not a class for everyone but like its good for what it does

its just purely defensive and nothing else

[slow scaffold]

Yea it could be good

[silent spruce]

its also just good at countering ppl that are bad

so like if you're good you wont really notice dwarf being a problem

but ppl that have lower playtime and are more predictable to block or parry really have a bad time against dwarves

[full monolith]

what would yall say is the best race for fighter?

i usually run orc

[silent spruce]

i dont think it really matters realisticly tbh

[full monolith]

true but i think it can slightly improve builds. tbh i wish there was a free dex race

[slow scaffold]

10$ will get you wat you need

[silent spruce]

is that even any race that removes ressourcefullness or knowledge for something else

[hollow nimbus]

what is the 5 day time on the religion when you click the question mark

[full monolith]

i dont think so

just removes agility and strength i believe. maybe dex

[silent spruce]

i just run scorched mummy or tidewalker if i have a helmet tbh

but i doubt its very optimal

maybe scorched is good enough idk

[cloud musk]

depends of ur build, me personally im running the water zombie one with +1 will -1 resourcefulness

[plain marlin]

when does goblin merchant and valentine refresh their goods? every hour? or 30 mins?

[silent spruce]

every hour i think

[upbeat yew]

Every hour on the half hour maybe? That's what it seems like for me.

[stone panther]

nightmare crocodilian gives +4 dex at the cost of no headpiece. Totally worth it in low gear.

I run my rogue in the +4 strength version... just heavy boots. 310 movespeed + 15str rogue, full squire

[solid plaza]

whats difference between additional magic damage and magical power?

[torn verge]

yoo! where did you guys get your cracked log (blue) and 3 bavins (green) ? for the quest

[stone panther]

pve castle, it might take a while (as in 10 minutes of chopping because you keep getting the white ones) but you can get them there just fine. Easily in 1 round.

normals is a bit quicker. Lots of the new empty modules got tons of trees

[torn verge]

Thank you!

[fluid moth]

Hi, is gold ore only mineable in HR?

[weary stratus]

no, u can mine n any game mode

[fluid moth]

does it spawn on a certain map? cheers

[keen mauve]

You need to kill both troll and cyclops pretty sure

[halcyon lotus]

any1 know whats going on with the green ceremonial daggers

havent seen a single one all wipe

[lime pine]

Does HR stingray have a different moveset than normal?

[halcyon lotus]

when he does the big dash and hits the wall rocks will fall form the ceiling and he shoots an extra lighting bubble out

[lime pine]

Thanks, know how much more tankier is HR stingray?

[stone panther]

PvE Lions heads

[halcyon lotus]

tyty

[craggy vigil]

Hi, I keep getting this message:

"The match is currently in progress. Please wait while we reconnect."

I'm playing on PC with Windows 11, using Fiber internet, and my server region is Frankfurt. I've tried reconnecting and changing server regions but it keeps happening.

Could you please advise how to fix this issue? Thank you!

[clear jasper]

A lot, its like 7k hp.

[lime pine]

So like double?

[clear jasper]

Ya

[lime pine]

I guess squire kit would be hard

[clear jasper]

It is but its doable on the right class

[elfin onyx]

WHY TF IS BARB SO INSANELY POWERFUL

[lime pine]

Yeah I can only do it with fighter rn, couldn't get the parry right with bard

So probably not enough dps

[clear jasper]

Ya bard fighter is the move for squire. But bard will def be quicker cause shriek of weakness

[lime pine]

aight, thanks for the tips

[elfin onyx]

Please nerf barb pvp is not fun now

[hasty creek]

Am I going insane? right clicking items picks them up into your inventory right? so why does it keep dropping it for me? is it lag?

[hazy nacelle]

Press alt, for some reason I have the same issue, the game auto toggles alt click for me so I need to tap it to reset it

[clear jasper]

Shift right click drops, right click goes to inventory. Look at settings

[unborn monolith]

Anybody have a cave troll guide for fighter?

[clear jasper]

Just circle left is the easiest but right is faster for more greed on hits. I suggest to just practice going left and learn move sets. Just dont greed at the start until you know all the moves

[unborn monolith]

Any suggestions on what build to use?

[hazy nacelle]

I assume longsword yes?

[lime pine]

Slayer if you can contest it after the kill, but anything would work. HR = circle left, normal just circle right

[feral herald]

why goblin merchant dont have quests?

[clear jasper]

Up to you. Any build works but i would start with slayer for extra speed and learn the moves. Plus second wind for the free heals on mistakes

[unborn monolith]

Thanks, my guy

[clear jasper]

🫡

[lime pine]

Bruh, IM limit the ring of quickness craft to GREEN LIFE LEEF? And you can't use blue or white.... Do they even play what they are making?

[hazy nacelle]

YouTube video by d*ckey, shows the fastest troll kill method

I ahve gotten sub 40 second kills with that method, works with rapier too

[unborn monolith]

Oh lord thats quick, alright I'll check that out

[lime pine]

Any use of the golden teeth? Can you craft grimsmile yet?

[smoky jetty]

🤫

[clear jasper]

Yes, but you must do all the goldsmith quests to unlock

[fallen umbra]

Yes, just do all goldsmith quests

[lime pine]

I see, still have the last one left, such a hassle.

[snow quiver]

is obsidian locked behind the fire colossus or can you farm it somewhere in firekeep?

[harsh adder]

Does anyone know where Sturdy Cloth is on Forgotten Castle?

[eager comet]

look up sobadstrange

[barren tinsel]

frozen lake at frost mountain has 3 spawns

[meager frigate]

maybe someone can fill me in here, my Market has an 8 day timer, just started playing again. Havent touched the game since beta

[elfin onyx]

game sucks again because barbarian is OP, thats filling you in

[halcyon lotus]

first 3 weeks of wipe is solo self found and yeah barb op rn

[snow quiver]

barbican has one spawn, and then the module on the right side of bridge where there is a lever for opening up a ladder to a hidden golden chest and rez spot, can't remember the name.

[upbeat yew]

People are pessimistic as always, though barbarian is definitely OP right now, but the game is in arguably one of the best states it's ever been in.

[elfin onyx]

what a lie, pvp sucks right now, its all spin to win

[brazen pike]

[elfin onyx]

nobody is saying im lying tho

[brazen pike]

whirlwind is one of the easiest abilities to avoid

[cloud musk]

u are wrong, not lying

[elfin onyx]

no u

[wraith robin]

Where do you find Ceremonial dagger green

[upbeat yew]

They're just a myth (graveyard)

[wraith robin]

I got told to try PVM lion chest, i openned 50+ lion chest and 0 Ceremonial dagger im getting annoyed with this game

[torpid osprey]

hey, where?

[snow quiver]

dont bother with cockatrice quests

[wraith robin]

Why they cant hiire normla people who can make quests without issues ?

[brazen pike]

every other quest was pretty straight forward shit happens

[torpid osprey]

pictures how many liv

[pallid hemlock]

its for player retention. low drop rates make people play longer. the other option is content with depth and a varying gameloop

[wraith robin]

it take 5 min to fix toh, shit happens but no hotfix doesnt happens

[harsh adder]

ty idk where that leverl is

[wraith robin]

Thats would be low iq from them to do that iinstead of just adding more content

[honest cedar]

How bout that ZERO drop rate for green ceremonial daggers!?!??!

Solid

[pallid hemlock]

ya but more content takes effort. low drop rates is a matter of what value the variable is set too. low IQ for sure but it is what it is 🤷‍♂️

mind you they watched 5% of the player base kill themself immediately upon S2R water map spawn every game and they said to themselves "oh i guess we should put effort into a map again"

[deep helm]

whats the best additional stats for a gold rapier

[torpid osprey]

hey, i pay respect to the nations and compatriots, the ones working.

[halcyon lotus]

i personally do +1 weapon dmg

[halcyon lotus]

action spped add armor rating and headshot dmg/phys power

[deep helm]

i dont have gold ruby

it also already has luck on it that i am trying to keep on it

[stone panther]

luck is broken, no point in having it. dead stat

[brazen pike]

luck is bis

[indigo ginkgo]

Tired of having to suck down potions like Rubio chugs water. I don't remember carrying 15 health pots in DnD!!

[stone panther]

just grab a surg kit, they practually grow on trees

[deep helm]

Gold rapier
+3.1% hs dmg bns
+21 luck
+1.6% Act spd
+12 ad AR
Yay or nay? How much would you pay for it?

[brazen pike]

perfect, if I found it on your body I'd leave it

guaranteed goblin merchant return policy for you right there

[indigo ginkgo]

They do proliferate on dead bodies, but I have run a lot of S2R and PvP normals...kits are a rarity from loot.

[stone panther]

fair enough, in the field it's a bit rough

Lmao, just pulled a unique drum with 11,4% action speed

[silent spruce]

how do ppl deal with wizard usually

do you just play hyper defensively until they run out of explosions and fireballs

[eager comet]

hope theyre bad

[fickle marlin]

play barb

or have aim on ranger/fighter

[opal saddle]

pve mode should be removed its is not good for the game

[silent spruce]

god forbid people enjoy the pve part of the game and dont wanna have to bother about metamancing everything

[stone panther]

prove them it sucks. Refuse to play it.

also... don't you dare buy a green dagger or green goblet from someone else

[indigo ginkgo]

Wizards are rare, Sorerors are better so there are more of them, and they don't run out of spells.
Go Barb.
Get Hook.
Bring them too you!
Throw stuff at them.
Put arrows in their face.

[round elm]

best counter to wiz is arrows and cover. Wizard has range but not a strong poke game due to the amount of time it takes for them to hit you with a projectile

[silent spruce]

so just play defensively until they're out of fireballs/explosions

i tried pushing one earlier and it did not go well ngl

[opal saddle]

i do all my own questing and dont play pve @stone panther

[silent spruce]

didnt think they hurt that badly

[round elm]

yea unless you can kill them quickly, being close to one dosent go well

[opal saddle]

@silent spruce there are other pve games

[fickle marlin]

Yeah even with 80-90% cast speed spells are quite delayed at peeking corners, and you wanna play close or far range not mid range.

[stone panther]

well, let us know when you get those green quest items without pve bossman

[silent spruce]

yet to see any pve game thats simular to dark and darker

[opal saddle]

i got them in normals

[fickle marlin]

arc or helldivers? never played the latter tho

[silent spruce]

they're fps

[round elm]

chroma tower is incredibly similar to dark and darker but I dont think its out yet

[silent spruce]

they're nowhere near simular to dark and darker

[upbeat yew]

PVE is great for the life of the game. It's just not great for people that have already played 500+ hours.

[fickle marlin]

you mean third person

[torpid osprey]

vip gold rapier can buy, from first game, is it shop?

[silent spruce]

one of the big reason i like dark and darker is because you cant just instadie

[silent spruce]

roughly the same thing tbh

[fickle marlin]

unless it's to a barb

[silent spruce]

even then you can just see them coming most of the time

and even then if they're hiding stuff like blocking parrying or phantomize exists

so its nearly impossible to just get instakilled with no counterplay

[torpid osprey]

found it, shop

[fickle marlin]

all 3 people in your group have to see them coming and have space to kite

[old pilot]

hi, is the game down?

[fickle marlin]

yeah but warlock seems like dogshi rn, and longsword loses to alot of the field

[silent spruce]

compared to fps where someone can hide in a corner or snipe you from 5 miles away dark and darker has a lot of leniancy

[fickle marlin]

unless u carry around a longsword ig

[silent spruce]

warlock is fine

they're pretty balanced atm

[brazen pike]

every weapon can block and parry

[silent spruce]

longsword is no longer the only parry weapon yea

[fickle marlin]

I guess ape warlock is pretty good yea always has been, but doesnt fit in every comp

[silent spruce]

no class should fit every comp

[fickle marlin]

longsword is the only one that will out-trade whirlwind tho

[silent spruce]

warlock is as balanced as it gets although i think dark offering is kinda silly

[fickle marlin]

bar something like halberd if youre lucky

[silent spruce]

halberd can absolutely do

or just run pommel strike

[fickle marlin]

right but all the meta revolves around whirlwind since everyone's using it, and longsword in general doesnt compete with the other parts of the meta

so it doesnt exactly equalize that problem on its own outside solos

[silent spruce]

whirlwind is really good but its not gamebreaking good imo

[fickle marlin]

idk 140 damage through walls and shields and instabreaks doors is pretty good, people still use it with artifacts lol

[silent spruce]

its really strong but you can still play around it

[silent spruce]

whirlwind doesnt go through shields

[fickle marlin]

it does half the time

[brazen pike]

if you're getting hit through block you're not blocking properly

[fickle marlin]

gotta remember hit detection in this game is pretty bad

[silent spruce]

to be fair its janky if the barb is litteraly hugging you

if you play defensively its fine though

[pallid hemlock]

i think they recently scuffed blocking, ive seen alot of complaints about it being way less responsive

[fickle marlin]

idk why you wanna defend this ability being in the game lol ive had 4 friends quit already bc of it

[silent spruce]

feels fine to me

[silent spruce]

its 100% deserves some sort of tweak but its not as oppressive as ppl make it up to be

its kinda like disarm in a way where you need to respect it

if you do play around it its not that bad

you can also do stuff like baiting out the first 2 spin then parrying the 3th

[pallid hemlock]

shields seem to be the worst but i dont really use shields much, im just going off clips and complaints. rapier seems the same

[fickle marlin]

you could argue a bis wiz isnt as oppressive as people make it out to be because it takes skill or has counterplay but talking semantics in circles like that doesnt always mean youll be accurate at accounting how things go in practice majority of the time

[silent spruce]

shields are pretty good id say

i really like running them with perfect block

underrated active tbh

[hazy nacelle]

It is very oppressive because they outrange, keep 7% from reckless, no hit collision, can’t block, and it takes no thinking, I got 2 shot WW in a crouch spot, the dude was crouching

And it hits through doors

Also just passive increases attack speed, so you hit twice as fast with one of the highest weapon damage weapons in the game with the longest range btw

[fickle marlin]

I mean it takes a fighter in epics/legendaries with high pdr down to like 10-20hp. If they have carnage youre cooked, assuming it's not bugged.

[silent spruce]

probably just need to make it so it scales off the weapon attack speed and it should be fine

[hazy nacelle]

And slow the barb while saying

[silent spruce]

that too

[hazy nacelle]

Using, that is the most logical

[silent spruce]

its overpowered but i dont think its unable to be played around

barbs dont have range after all so

[hazy nacelle]

And also atleast make it to where they need to stand to use it

Crouching whirlwind just doesn’t even make sense

[sonic maple]

Barb spin good

[silent spruce]

thats fine tbh

i think whirlwind being made to counter ppl camping doorways or crouch spot is nice

[fickle marlin]

Hot take but I wish they just kept disarm in the game if they were planning on leaving it like this lol and I dont even play fighter

[silent spruce]

honestly i wish disarm worked in a way that disarmed ppl if u hit their weapons

[hazy nacelle]

I think if they make it slower it would be great, you would need to time it perfect and use it well

[silent spruce]

old disarm was kinda unhealthy

even if it wasnt THAT broken

still bad and very unituitive for new players

[hazy nacelle]

I say it was too much just because it would be activated mid fight if they guy had half a brain

So timing it out wasn’t much of a thing

[silent spruce]

kinda wanna try running pommel strike but im having too much fun with halberds

i feel like halberd is probably next on the nerf list

either gonna turn into a 1 hit parry or shield mastery wont give action speed while parrying or something

[analog grove]

im watching skelly walk around like a player

but i cant see his inventory, wth is that?

[harsh adder]

Does anyone know where the wood coffins are?

[silent spruce]

faustain bargain

[silent spruce]

theres some in abandoned sanctuary but they mostly spawn on the second floor of castle

[deep helm]

captains key goes to where?

[silent spruce]

the sunken ship top middle

[deep helm]

can u send me a pic of it

[silent spruce]

the one right next to the upside down

[twilit bridge]

Hi, kind of new to the game
I got banned after a few trio matches.
Not really sure why! I bought the game a week ago, and bought stuff on the shop. Im trying to think why Id be banned without cheating.
Do they not allow ICUE (Corsair mouse program) here? For instance I have hotkeys on it, or a clicker for organizing my stash.

[silent spruce]

dont you have a ban reason

[twilit bridge]

Yeah it said "Cheating" but like how? lol
Im trying to think why Id get flagged for that

[silent spruce]

probably flagged from using a third party software of some sort

[neon shell]

may have been a false report or smth cuz i use icue software

[boreal cedar]

Anybody free rn?

I got a question

[crude salmon]

yo anyone know how to open locked doors in firedeep map ? do i need a golden key or smt ?

[twilit bridge]

Yeah idk
ICUE, or Python with Dreadmyst(another game) I use or medal(Clip program stream)

[pliant pasture]

Anyone know where to get AWL items for the quest

[plain marlin]

awl? skeleton spearmen, in the crypts

[pliant pasture]

Thanks G

[plain marlin]

if you do pve adventure its pretty rare drop

[spare obsidian]

please just remove the watermap from the game... its awfull.

[dusky marsh]

yo, guys, can you tell me why im unable to do a parry riposte against certain people when i use the longsword? i just lost to a falchion fighter bc my ripostes wouldnt come out like wtf is that

[blazing fox]

green ceremonial dagger,. not in game? havent seen 1 all wipe

[halcyon lotus]

neither have i

[deep helm]

skull key, where in hell is it?

[gloomy condor]

any1 been able to find the bellows and awls? how are you gentlemen doing today?

[noble wren]

bellows = wraith awls = spear skele today = good 😄

[mild meadow]

is anyone else constanly crashing out of the game all of the sudden

[noble wren]

no but i do get this weird thing where i stop all of a sudden and cant move until i click.

almost like my mouse is interacting with a tabbed window

[placid coyote]

what do i not get adding goblin recovery back but its quest locked all of ssf?$?

[meager frigate]

alright, thank you for the info ❤️

[dense berry]

once again reminding you all that when you kill me in a dungeon it's because you are worthless scum who can't just leave me alone to play the game and peacefully farm and I hate you

[vapid oyster]

[dense berry]

guy named Dankrose had a portal all to himself, had to come kill me anyway, there was no reason to except ego padding, it's disgusting and disgraceful behavior

Leave me alone. Do not engage me in pvp unless I start it. Not a hard ask.

[kind forge]

your crying because someone killed you in a pvp game?

theres pve for people like you

[dense berry]

I have put over 1k hours into this game. I am tired of losing every fight. It's enough to drive me insane.

[kind forge]

sounds like you need to hang up the gloves and stick to pve

[dense berry]

no, it sounds like all you sweaty dogs need to stop thirsting for your ego

people only play games like this because they need it to compensate

[smoky jetty]

whats good chat

[kind forge]

you can find it in castle in the module next to bridge where theirs a rez its a drop down ladder where you kill an archer and sturdy cloth will be laying on the ground when you go up the ladder

[kind forge]

you are just bad bro you have over 1k hours and you said you lose every fight. major skill issue dont cry over players killing you just kill them or go to pve

end wall

[torpid osprey]

how many stalkers integrity liv

[silent geyser]

anyone else been crashing?

[untold gyro]

Honestly, easiest is find is a boat thats sideways in the water, found 2 on it now. look it up on youtube, shows location, repeat on pve never ever spawns on pvp

[kind forge]

couldnt ever find it there consistently found it in castle

[untold gyro]

after 18 tries never saw one in ruins, but after 4 i got it on water, everyones different

[mortal bridge]

anyone else having an issue when trying to drag items? It's like the game reads it as multiple clocking inputs, only having this issue on this game

[ruby forge]

Where TF do you find Green Cups and Green ceremonial dagger? I cant find these things

[untold gyro]

Oh dark and darker how you've fallen

[gloomy condor]

thank you sir

[plain marlin]

the pve farmers are sweatier than the pvp players, i get into map at 13 minutes* everything is dead already

[obtuse agate]

Abomination Rotten Lump doesn't exist, it's a lie

[alpine jay]

nerf barb to the mf ground

[gloomy viper]

does anyone know if buff duration effects how long heals last or does it not work that way ?

[drifting seal]

Anyone else experiencing low fps???

[jovial depot]

I can’t tell if it’s just terrible latency but I can’t block literally anything with my longsword. And if I do get a block it won’t let me repost. Like a living statue hits my sword, I immediately click and just nothing. It was so bad it made me just get off tonight.

[ruby forge]

seriously tho, where the green cups and ceremonial daggers at tho

[jovial depot]

Now that they added blocks to every weapon they need to re do the long swords hit box. It’s so janky.

[lavish dock]

is arena still ssf

[hidden geode]

What does ssf mean :3

[lavish dock]

self found

does all the gear need to be self found

[hidden geode]

ahhh

not a clue I'm not sweaty enough for arena

[twilit bridge]

They should bring back random maps
But make it so every 30 minutes the map rotation swaps between 2 out of 4 maps, or 1 out of the 4 maps.

[round tide]

WHERE DO I FIND RAPIERS

PLEASE SPEED

[hidden geode]

Everywhere

[silent geyser]

Big chest and Pirates

[lavish shoal]

when are they buffing whirlwind feels too weak

[wintry fiber]

anyone else cant connect into game?

[lavish shoal]

yeah servers are donw

[wintry fiber]

oh okay thank you @lavish shoal

[lavish shoal]

no worries

[jagged thunder]

do we know if the fire golem drops an artifact?

[lavish shoal]

no

[trail fiber]

Where is bloodplatforms now?

[halcyon kite]

Haven’t seen one yet, they didn’t add a new arti, but that doesn’t mean they didn’t add an old one to his pool. Shield would make sense or a warhammer

[trail fiber]

Can't wait for the wiki to update

[lavish shoal]

🤓

[trail fiber]

Fr

[halcyon kite]

The same place it’s always been, level 3 crypts. Just google the image of the module.

[lavish shoal]

🤏 🥒

[trail fiber]

Nvm a bard and barb teamed and killed me

[lavish shoal]

lol your bad

[trail fiber]

One was even a ttv

Truly tragic

[deep helm]

def wont get banned then

[austere geyser]

TTV = two total viewers

[deep helm]

best thing ive heard in awhile

[quick fern]

buff whirlwind pls sdf

[alpine jay]

.

[lavish shoal]

hes to weak

[unique birch]

okay I was wrong season 8 isn't that bad! but when are we getting flails

[granite hamlet]

when are we getting the next batch of quests?

[pallid hemlock]

Thursday afternoon

[granite hamlet]

Aight bet thanks

[lucid socket]

=========== Meta Vote ++++++++++
Calling all spikes. What runs arena? As barbarian?

[light helm]

Pls buff barbarian, i am too weak playing him i die all the time pls buff him

[ebon mantle]

why is all these modules in ruins empty

[austere geyser]

skill issue

[ebon mantle]

ah

[rough mountain]

anyone having issue with loading into maelstrom? i hit load screen then it kicks me back out to char select sometimes and i lose all my gear

[gleaming owl]

they really gotta fix taunt pulling stuff through the floor

[deep helm]

best additional perks for the falcion? Gold variant btw

[royal thistle]

fix the fkin game im so tired of being ran down by only fighters and barbarians and bards this game is dead and the devs only care about 2 classes

[deep helm]

u sir r mistaken, they only care about 1 class

[alpine jay]

just gotta become one of em brotha

[royal thistle]

no thats not how this game should be played. its crazy that the devs only play 2 of 6 classes lol bad game i hope it dies

[alpine jay]

its been dead

[deep helm]

lol u think the devs play this slop? Its been ded since 2024 too

[floral thunder]

is gk crown more rarer than artifacts now?

[deep helm]

and they only care about fighter, have since launch. No one else has stayed in the meta and top tier for as long as fighter

[floral thunder]

wizard

[deep helm]

wizard aint close to top tier and nor r they meta anymore, they had their spell in the first like 3 seasons but fighter has been in the top 3 from day 1

[floral thunder]

wizards never been in a bad spot, just needs gear

[deep helm]

well fireball is just a big f u to anyone unlucky to get hit

[floral thunder]

outside of solo wiz is the best pick

[deep helm]

even a high armor and high health barb like me gets 3-4 shot

[swift ether]

Your favorite key must be w?

[prisma horizon]

tbh even ungeared u play mele wiz & its pretty strong

[light helm]

succesfully ragebaited funy moment

[quick fern]

fighter

[heady breach]

has anyone made the new wooden figurines it now asked for a ghost king crown on top of logs. does that mean it is worth more?

worth more in with the npc merchants

[warm kraken]

tell me you dont play trios without telling me

[deep helm]

why play trios? Solos and duos work just fine and rnt as much chaos. Like way to shame sm1 for not playing a certain mode so like go off ig. Go you

[swift ether]

Baited? Just confused but if that's how you like to spend your time?

[lime delta]

im assuming monks next but im surprised they havent added paladin yet

[dire belfry]

I just started playing again and wiz feels incredibly weak to me in squire to riches. Kiting feels impossible compared to when I used to play

[warm kraken]

😢 😢 😢

[deep helm]

doubtful theyll add anything new, they havent in 2 years, why add now

[hazy nacelle]

We got barbs running full uniques in solos bc they are so broken rn

[plain marlin]

when is barb oppression going to be neutered

[hazy nacelle]

if they dont get nerfed next patch this season will prob die early again

[fervent palm]

How do you dodge the stun from HR cyclops?

[hazy nacelle]

rush to side

[fervent palm]

It seems impossible frfr

[hazy nacelle]

its a cone but bigger than troll scream

like you gotta react fast

[charred saffron]

be close to him and strafe to the right or left

[broken cove]

whats the max headshot dmg bonus% roll on a chestpiece?

[fervent palm]

Okay bet

Does it focus one person with it?

[charred saffron]

yea focuses one person but your teamate could get hit with the stun even if they arent the target

[placid moss]

anyone else skeleton mage kills in ruins is not counting toward tavern master "bloody fingers" quest, which is 3 mage kills IN ruins .-.

[broken cove]

is it crypts not ruins?

[placid moss]

killed a mage in each and neither counted

[broken cove]

had 0 issues with that quest, are they dying to their fireball?

that doesnt count as you killing them

[placid moss]

hmmm ill try to kill one with no fire near it and see

[lucid turtle]

what does the combat debuff even do

[smoky jetty]

🤫

[lapis flume]

whirlwind should definitely be in the game

[tame bobcat]

Is there any roadmap for 2026 and whats the future of game or not rlly ?

[lapis flume]

buffing barb

[keen mauve]

Pretty sure they added it just for perks, like fighter veteran instinct to activate once combat starts

Wouldn't be shocked if other classes get similar perks that activate at combat start

[lavish shoal]

i just want to kiss my fish

[broken cove]

any luck

[placid moss]

yes ty

[timid sky]

literally every player i fought in solos the past two days was barb/fighter. the fuck

[hazy nacelle]

at this point WW iss killing the gaem extensively

absolute braindead oafs are broken now

cant legally read and can play the game

[vernal ember]

In this recent Chinese tournament, the Douyin streamer laixucangzhen accused another streamer, ahen, who plays Druid, of using cheats.
laixucangzhen also claimed, “I sent a video to the officials, and after reviewing it, they said this person is indeed using cheats.”
However, ahen has never been banned. Why?
Since your officials also believe ahen is cheating, why has he not been banned?

From what I understand, there is a personal conflict between laixucangzhen and ahen. Because of this, laixucangzhen led a large group of people to isolate ahen and spread rumors that he was cheating.

We truly need your response. Ahen has been wronged, insulted, and isolated for many years. This time, laixucangzhen claimed that your official side said Ahen is a cheater. Is this true?

Laixucangzhen has been banned four times but was unbanned each time. He contacted Wang Sicong to help get his account restored. Wang Sicong is the son of Wang Jianlin, China’s former richest man. Wang Sicong said that he is one of your investors. Is it reasonable to unban someone so casually under these circumstances?

Did your company officially state that Ahen uses cheats? If it is true, why hasn’t he been permanently banned? If it is not true, why do you allow laixucangzhen to spread false accusations in your name?

Moreover, your organization even cooperated with laixucangzhen, allowing him to personally select the participants for this China tournament and appointing him as an official commentator.

[hushed oriole]

if you get teammates in squire to hero that refuse to attack enemies and then they wipe your squad while they dont fight back they should get banned to pve for 50 matches

[zenith summit]

guys and girls and gamers when is next quest day

[hushed oriole]

its usually every monday if i remember right my friend

[zenith summit]

when is next quest day guys

im going to brawl my newborn if somebody doesnt tell me

[analog summit]

pen is

[crude lark]

reading is difficult

[zenith summit]

whe nwhen when when when is next quest day

[stone panther]

Two baktuns beyond the Long Count’s great turning, on the 44th dawn of the solar wheel, when the first hour stands alone at the Prime Meridian.

[zenith summit]

dead ah server

[short sleet]

please do not spam across different chats, this is your warning

[boreal cedar]

Anybody down for sum high rollers?

[waxen totem]

but how many pashtun?

[lone nymph]

[amber plaza]

Where can I find wood coffins in forgotten castle

[zenith summit]

right thanks for the help everyone

[subtle heart]

I got a unique with only 3 magic power why

[radiant notch]

barb is NOT op 💀

cleric can stat check a wayy more geared barb its insane

[subtle heart]

🧢

[radiant notch]

completely through whirlwind

ive killed like 4 bis barbs in the last 2 games and im at 60% hp after the fight while using a green morning star

[brazen pike]

smite + divine cleric?

[radiant notch]

well ya ofc

[brazen pike]

the barbarian brain counter love to see it

[rustic pecan]

this game is so shit with parry now its just constant parry bait

[radiant notch]

ong bro the parry system absolutely sucks for it to be on every weapon

someone should not be able to get a riposte off if they block for more than 0.5 seconds

it would encourage timed and skill based parrying as opposed to sitting and fucking holding bloxk for 10 seconds to finally get one and win the fight with 2 ripostes

i feel u bro

[brazen pike]

I'd like that to be the next step if we're giving all weapons block and parry

[rustic pecan]

parrying was already boring enough on longsword 1 trick ponys but now its just riposte pony 24/7 this game always has something so busted and boring to play against

[abstract hazel]

Smite DP is so braindead bro pressed 2 buttons and is now god

[radiant notch]

longsword should also get the 0.5 second parry window then after that no parry

[radiant notch]

never said it wasnt

DP should be nerfed to 20% pdr increase but with a 15 second cooldown so its not a cleric popping it and running away for 45 seconds with 310 ms

[lapis flume]

^^^^^

[quasi plover]

bro they gotta nerf whirlwind so bad im using this shit its free kills

[coarse portal]

For them to add it and not change it yet just shows they dont even play thwir own game

[subtle heart]

They do, they just want barb to be op

[knotty oriole]

barb is fkn broken who tf said otherwise

ur probably playing barb and coping

its infinately better htan any other class at this given moment sure it cant exactly catch up to a wizard or a smart ranger but with the ability to swing sideways through doorways with an abillty that cannot be blocked yeah thats fair

[warm kraken]

stop walking at them with your hands out

[hazy nacelle]

but they can catch up

tuerns out with movement changes, a rage barb is actually extremely fast

[knotty oriole]

who could have guessed

[quasi plover]

barb is fine other than whirlwind tbh

whirlwind never shouldve been added

[hazy nacelle]

and theem htting through walls, no wonder they are running all leg gem, they are too broken to die

[knotty oriole]

basekit barb is 20 HP over any full vig built class wym fine

[hazy nacelle]

nah move speed too, bc of percent buff and everyone losiung move speed, they actually got hard buffed

agi gets nerfed but barb has no agi, their movemnt didnt get touched, they are actually insanely fast rn

[ocean plank]

you almost have the right idea. removing trios is a crazy take though

[radiant notch]

bro u have to be trolling ust play cleric like i have

[hazy nacelle]

still broken? playing the ahrd counter doesnt mean its not broken?

[scenic wren]

yeah, barb is kinda untennable right now. The class is so overtuned compared to everyone else this wipe. Combined with whirlwind, theres a reason there's 1 or 2 on every team right now

[hazy nacelle]

ive llost too many bi kits to WW through wall

[harsh adder]

Where do you find rings?

[ocean plank]

goldsmith

[queen patio]

water map is just weird ngl

like its cool but its unnecessary

[grand swallow]

Hello any controller players out there ive been trying out controller and when im trying to loot a mob to move cursor it moves my character instead and shows no cursor.

[queen patio]

dont use controller tbh

If you are able to use a keyboard and mouse its far easier.

[grand swallow]

Only way i could use cursor was when I interacted with expressman going between floors

[knotty oriole]

deadass about to play barb until it gets nerfed bro everything else just loses cant block 3 attacks and with rage or savage roar u cant run either

ggs SDF ya did it again

[grand swallow]

I use both but ive been having wrist pain and controller is helping

[trail fiber]

What is spidersilks droprate, killed giant spiders a lot now and can't find one

[grand swallow]

Everything with controller is good just the no cursor bugg

[queen patio]

carpal tunnel or what

[ocean plank]

this game is a live service game. I believe its also considerred to be early access too

[queen patio]

if u get wrist pain try a vertical mouse

[fervent dune]

Sort button when

[ocean plank]

if your definition of real game design is korean

[subtle heart]

Fr, Sdf said they spent a LOONG time reworking the inventory system, just to give Barb that one skill to throw his weapons which is such a bad investment of time.

[fervent dune]

Reeee

[subtle heart]

When ppl get richer we will see it for sure

[chilly tinsel]

so is unique gems useless now?

[subtle heart]

Keep them, they might give them value before end of season

[chilly tinsel]

ahh okok

[sonic maple]

ww animation is fun pov

[coarse portal]

Nah Squire mode will always pull more people to play it. But normal and HR should have the options to pick from solo duo trio on every map. One of the modes needs to be random

[crystal bronze]

team up on every barbarian! fight the overpowered meta with teamwork ❤️

[brazen pike]

learn sorc and cook barbs in squire

[crystal bronze]

tried it but not for me

[grand patio]

I think I have a fix to whirlwind while not making it awful nerfing it

Make it two swings but instead of keeping the players head in one direction force the character model to spin in a 360 following the weapon but increase the speed of whirlwind

[sonic maple]

❓

[coarse portal]

Ww should have never been put into the game. These devs could have seen it a mile away from the damn mobile game. It had it as well and it was broken as hell. If you keep WW make they have collision with everything just like any other weapon. Learn your spacing or dont use it

Or let players block all three swings

[azure bronze]

I love killing a boss hundreds of times and not getting a single artifact 🗣️ 🔥

Best thing I've gotten so far is a longsword with +11 phys power

[shadow crypt]

if u are complaining about whirlwind u simply cant play the game. EOT

[dusty heart]

Found a unique felling axe with +7 magical power as its ONLY roll

Grand!

[hazy nacelle]

WW is overtuned and ruining the game. It’s just trash design.

[shadow crypt]

welcome to the game timmy, one day you gonna learn teh game, keep it up!

[hazy nacelle]

On you’re a barb main prob nvm

I bet you’re finally getting kills now that you don’t need to think

[coarse portal]

Thats why I always say Arts just aren't worth the grind

[raw hatch]

if u dont like the game just stop playing or start to use the meta xd

[hazy nacelle]

I am, still acknowledge it’s bad for the game. That way of reasoning is horrible for game longevity, it is not strong, it is oppressive, oppressive metas kill the game

[dusty heart]

just duck

[raw hatch]

they just finished their law suit we got a whole new floor give them some time

[hazy nacelle]

They can crouch and jump in it

[hazy nacelle]

It’s being vocal. The update overall is great, WW should have been tuned with disarm though.

[coarse portal]

Just take WW out or make it have collision with everything just like all weapons

[old rune]

Yo

[silver void]

Is there a map of the dungeons that I could find? Like the one that spellsnsguns made but updated to this season?

[lavish maple]

DOES MYSTIC GEM STILL HAVE A ARTIFACT CHANCE?

[silent spruce]

the whole point of whirlwind is that its supposed to counter people camping tight chokepoints

removing the main design of it is kinda silly

just give ww more slowdown on use and make ww action speed scale with the weapon you're using

[untold gyro]

Then he can bring a smaller weapon and avoid the solid wall of stone, otherwise anything should be allowed to go through it

Granted, I never have an issue fight ww, it's always some new player pressing it and walking towards me, so it's usually a freekill unless a teammate saves em

[azure bronze]

where do i find smelly vomit

[silent spruce]

there really isnt an issue with ww ignoring walls

the only issue is the dps and the little slowdown you get imo

[untold gyro]

You're totally right, if the game already had every other weapon not hitting walls, totally it would make sense, but that is not the case unfortunately

[zinc sparrow]

I hope you are all enjoying the wipe.
Don't worry too much, necessary adjustments will be made soon 🙏

[untold gyro]

I haven't had more fun on dark and darker in awhile

[azure bronze]

imo ww should get a small change like you should move slower while using it (being able to following people while doing it is pretty dumb) or it only swing twice or have some wind up, it not bouncing off walls isnt really why its a lil too strong atm

[median grail]

great wipe, any chances we are also getting more perks for the other classes?

[azure bronze]

I do say i am enjoying the wipe so far, although there have been the few issues that are commonly said such as difficulty in getting uncommon trinkets such as ceremonial daggers and whatnot and minor balancing concerns. I will say i am happy with the change to disarm where you removed the requirement of using a sword type weapon as in my personal opinion fighters perks and skills are geared a little too much into sword usage when it should have options to use a wider array of weaponry

[median grail]

Also not sure I like the change of no rings and pendants drop, S2R has no option for filling those spots

[azure bronze]

Isnt the entire point of S2R to go in without gear? If no one gets rings and pendants during it thats only fair

I personally like crafting them as it gives an incentive to actually collect materials and level up the merchant

[median grail]

ofc but the thrill of finding stuff is also the fun and getting lucky sometimes feels good

[azure bronze]

though some are far more annoying to get the materials for than others

[azure bronze]

Yea, you can get lucky in S2R and find a high rarity weapon, but the core of the gamemode is to start on an even playing field, being able to bring rings and pendants in kind of defeats that

[mild topaz]

hey guys, could you give me some suggestions on how to fight ranged classes as a barb?

[azure bronze]

you have multiple options

throwing axes, throw weapon the skill, grappling hook, just holding W key while trying to strafe, ect

[mild topaz]

I tried hook the other day, but it seems to not pull anyone really close to me, at least not close enough. Also does grappling hook stack with Achilles strike?

[azure bronze]

I dont really play barb, im going off what ive seen them do when i fight them and my general knowledge of the game

the best usage for hook ive seen in during 3v3 or 2v2 where the two parties are camping opposite sides of a doorway

ive been yoinked through and killed a couple times by barbs

[mild topaz]

hmmm, thanks

[wide ginkgo]

flag nerf soon?

[lone nymph]

just shoot it down lol

[wide ginkgo]

u know that range of the buff can be like 1 module away right

[lone nymph]

you know that if the flag is a module away just move 3 meters back

oops not flag range anymore

setting up a flag s module away is not the best for the team, and if they set it up in your module just shoot it

[coarse portal]

30m is not that far guy

[lone nymph]

cooldown should be more unforgiving tho

make it at least 30s

[forest wagon]

Healer druid is the biggest cancer in trio gameplay, please change it up somehow

[lone nymph]

not like its an infinite perk that grants you 3 all... (previously 5...)

[obsidian badge]

anybody know how to find uncommon silver chalice and ceremonial daggers

[lone nymph]

would be cool if they made druid heals over time unstackable

[sonic maple]

Give me an item that let's me find better items

[lone nymph]

give me an arcane stat

remove luck add arcane

[forest wagon]

More like the summons and walls constantly making the playstyle extremely boring

The healing too but the summons just never allow you to push or get close in any shape or form

[lone nymph]

okay bro, this is THE LEAST problematic part of druids kit

[harsh adder]

Are rings and necklaces no longer dropped?

[forest wagon]

I'm convinced everyone in here is legit ragebaiting bro this cannot be real hahahah

[coarse portal]

Hell no that build is too fun

[forest wagon]

It's quite literally the reason is so strong

[lone nymph]

no ur just delusional and have no gamesense

[forest wagon]

Agreed it should be in the game but not that crazy ngl

[lone nymph]

no, what???

[forest wagon]

I think it's just in EU this comp is very regularly played

So you don't see it as much

[lone nymph]

okay load in as a druid without heals but rather take only vines a treants

we ll see how its op

[forest wagon]

It's why sorc is so op

Having access to summons is crazy

[lone nymph]

dude i am eu

[forest wagon]

You can force 1v3 always

[lone nymph]

literally no, again...

[forest wagon]

Alr then lmk how you deal with toddfatherfan and capybara

[coarse portal]

Have you tired playing that build? Its not that easy. If you mess up or aren't actually keeping up. Youre putting your team in a huge disadvantage

[forest wagon]

Not saying its easy

[azure bronze]

its strong but doesnt really need a nerf, its not that tangible and easily counterable, esp when its eating a skill slot + can be shot down and bards already buff way more than the flag

i would agree that it should have lower range or higher cd but its a pretty low priority when so much other stuff in the game is strong as hell in comparison

[lone nymph]

no you cant, if enemy team shares above 3 braincells they wont individually push in the door, theyll just fake the push get rid of treants

[forest wagon]

Sure

[lone nymph]

havent met them

[azure bronze]

the humble grappling hook:

[coarse portal]

Yeah the whole team split has nothing to do with the class. A lot of classes can do this. If your teammate is that dumb to push into a door way thats on them. When now you can just break the doors

[lone nymph]

well thats certainly a thing but its so niche and impractical i dont even consider it

[forest wagon]

Hahahaha lowkey I think grappling hook in trio can be crazy if it wasn't so buggy

[azure bronze]

When it works it works

ive been yoinked by a barb while playing door and doorer a few times as a fighter and just instantly killed by the team

[lone nymph]

sacrificing a skill slot as a barb for a hook is trolling (in geared hr at least) and yes i saw that one partychip vid he swapped it later anyway

[radiant notch]

u can out dps whirlwind with longsword parry btw

[azure bronze]

Still a genuinely\ good skill if you can get it off when playing doors

its not really sacrificing to do something niche but useful

even more so when ppl dont expect it

[lone nymph]

everything is good if you can get it off, thats not the factor here, other things are better and not as bugged

[azure bronze]

ppl rn are automatically expecting whirlwind, so a grappling hook can easily catch someone off guard and turn a 3v3 to a 3v2 in a moment

[lone nymph]

not really, u need to dodge first and then block repost dodge again, thats probably the least damage taken

[azure bronze]

The new skills being buggy is sad cuz of this

[azure bronze]

you can block all 3 hits then counter with zwi block + perfect guard btw

i did some testing with that and its surprisingly useful

[lone nymph]

lets be real, 4m is very low distance, if youre at that distance with enemy team ur probably either chasing low health team or already engaging

[azure bronze]

Dude what? fighters poke through doors to test all the time and can easily be hooked what are you talking about

[lone nymph]

? fighters do what exactly?

ahh shoot you mean

yea no if i shoot through an open door i am NOT standing right in the door frame

[gloomy scaffold]

anyone having really bad stuttering in game?

[lone nymph]

thats just disables your backline to shoot through it as well

[azure bronze]

one team on one side of the door, usually 2 ranged as vice versa; very commonly the melee will walk through a little force force the other side to back up/check for anyone in chasing range then go back through the door

this can be punished using grappling hook by isolating the fighter

ive seen this multiple times, even in a couple hr games

[lone nymph]

no if the team has any ranged and fighter has 2 iq at least they re not going anywhere near the door

[azure bronze]

It feels like you have this idea of pvp where you think theres just a door and nothing else anywhere on the map

[lone nymph]

noone is checking if anyone in chase range when its a 3v3

[azure bronze]

do you only play arena or do you just not play the game at all?

[lone nymph]

its either you push as a whole or they puch as a whole

[lone nymph]

i dont play arena at all, thats why i know how to play doors

[azure bronze]

Which is why its even crazier how out of touch with actual combat you are

[lone nymph]

it usually comes down to one door being the connetion between too teams

[radiant notch]

ngl if ur afraid of solos in this game ur a shit player

[azure bronze]

just flat out saying "nuh uh" to the fact that fighters do pokes to test is WILD

[radiant notch]

trios get sooooooo boring bro

[acoustic plover]

solos is so much better tbh

[lone nymph]

so we wwnt from arguments to personal

[radiant notch]

literallyyy bro

[acoustic plover]

agree trios is hey lets just stand back and pop shots for days

[marble ivy]

You know the game is in a good state when its back down to 5,000 players and all the discussion in the general channel is about Fighter vs Barbarian.

[lone nymph]

cause they dont?? at least any decent one

are we talking trios here?

with double ranged meta? treants and golems?

[radiant notch]

so we're lying for fun

[lone nymph]

noone is walking in the trap range

[azure bronze]

I sure love when someone says "decent ones dont do that" when pretty much every hr game has everyone doing exactly that

[lone nymph]

send me clips next time

play with hook for a week, hr, send me clips

ill forfeit and admit your right

[azure bronze]

Watch anyones stream or better yet, go play some trios and look for yourself to see if a fighter pokes through a doorway

because you literally just said "nuh uh" to something that happens in most games

[lone nymph]

are you playing norms by chance?..

[azure bronze]

literally already demigod dude

[lone nymph]

ahh so your playing ap farm

[azure bronze]

nope

[lone nymph]

gotcha

[azure bronze]

just put in over 150 hours since the start of wipe

[azure bronze]

also you're* dimwit

[radiant notch]

omfg can u two just play solos so i can 1v2 you guys

[lone nymph]

erm actually

[radiant notch]

no he cooked u thats 4th grade shit

ngl wrong your in the big 26 is on you

[lone nymph]

watch him correct ur "u" to you

[lone nymph]

bro im lazy to type e

like your lazy to type you

not even my first lang

[radiant notch]

sure bud

[lone nymph]

why care about exact literacy

[azure bronze]

"you" should also be in quotations if you put the other in them

[lone nymph]

so proof or nah?

[radiant notch]

this is grammar mechanics not literacy

[lone nymph]

dude, im fluent in english, idgaf when im typing in discord chat

[azure bronze]

dude I LOVE when people say English isn't their first language as an excuse for the most corrected mistake on the entire internet, not even considering the possibility that the person correcting them ALSO has a different primary language

Actually living in his own bubble dude, good lord

[lone nymph]

i love how people change topics when not being able to provide further argument

[azure bronze]

@radiant notch Hey so who changed topic first, me or him?

[lone nymph]

dang is bro asking for help?

[lone nymph]

.

[azure bronze]

.

[lone nymph]

.

[azure bronze]

You do realize thats switching the topic that we started talking about right

[lone nymph]

well isnt that an obvious thing to reply when someone says their ap rank as an answer to "do you play hr pvp"

[lone nymph]

LOL

twin

[azure bronze]

Good lord you're so egotistical you actually can't comprehend the possiblity of being wrong

[lone nymph]

dont dig urself a bigger hole

jumping topics is ur masters apparently

[lone nymph]

define egoism

[prime lagoon]

crazy that there is always people that argues here 7/24

[lone nymph]

oh def, have fun

[azure bronze]

Do you actually not understand that the season started just a couple weeks ago, so if someone already has demigod they played hr and survived for at least 30 matches durring the most active time of the wipe. Now, ask yourself this crazy question, if someone does that do you thing that might, just might have encountered a fair bit of hr pvp?

[lone nymph]

aint readin allat

[azure bronze]

no that's clearly not possible to your great mind

clearly that means that the person who said that is just an ap farmer and didnt encounter a single person

[lone nymph]

thanks

[azure bronze]

Christ i hate this community

[lone nymph]

kinda how it goes, especially ssf where most dont have gear and just looting

[lone nymph]

too bad ur apart of it

womp womp

[azure bronze]

wow you literally just dont play the game

[lone nymph]

if only you couldve left anytime...

[azure bronze]

a part. "apart" is an actual word

[lone nymph]

🤓

[marble ivy]

Guys, what's the point of arguing, you've derailed your topic into personal back and forth nonsense.

[lone nymph]

dam i be making more mistakes just to irritate u

[marble ivy]

It's like a DM conversation at this stage.

[lone nymph]

im trying to turn it back

[lone nymph]

yea but i bet there are people reading this and having a blast

[brazen pike]

true

[stoic ridge]

Bro I have so much stuff to sell to a ranger main. Pestilence, nipalan, unique longbow with 14% headshot damage, unique forest hood with 8% headshot damage, and unique turnshoes with 7.5% armor pen

[marble ivy]

Just leave it, there's no point, you both have different stand points - no real point wasting time proving each other wrong.

[stoic ridge]

Any rich ranger mains wanna buy any? Lol

[lone nymph]

im having fun

[azure bronze]

Youre right i should go play the actual game where i actually encounter fights unlike someone who thinks fighters dont door poke and no one in hr if fighting at the start of the season

[stoic ridge]

When its open that is

[azure bronze]

must be nice

[stoic ridge]

I wont lie this seasons must have the most amount of geared people in HR since loot is so easy

[azure bronze]

hundred hr stingrays so far and not a single artifact dropped

[lone nymph]

send me clips when it happens

[stoic ridge]

Sorry :/ HR wyverns been feeding me good for once

First season where it didnt have a drastic bug the first month and a half

So im actually profiting off of it

[azure bronze]

Of course the single season i decide to not play ranger the drop chance of artifacts for it is good

[reef gust]

Is spells and guns still the best map to refer, or something else now ?

[stoic ridge]

I might jsut be lucky

[stoic ridge]

Like I shit my pants, 2/3 wyverns dropped me an arti

[azure bronze]

Bruh

[stoic ridge]

Both have action speed on em

But rhe rest are pretty dead rolls

[scenic wren]

giving barbarian reposte on a bardiche was probably the second wost thing they've done in a while

[azure bronze]

i think this game actually just doesnt like me

[stoic ridge]

Tbf Ive killed hundreds of wyverns and these are my first artis

[azure bronze]

i killed stingray abt 100 times this season and well over 1000 times last season and havent gotten a single arti or egg

i had to trade a fulgor my friend gave me for an egg last season

meanwhile im seeing other stingray farmers have multiple artifacts alr

[stoic ridge]

Do we know what the best mode to farm bellows is?

[azure bronze]

its pve

[stoic ridge]

Depressing lol

[azure bronze]

not that much in comparison to other things

it only took me a couple hours ish during when everyone was trying to get them to fill mine

meanwhile it took me like 8 hours of loading into water map pve and getting every lions head chest i can to find my daggers and goblets

[stoic ridge]

What is that? I looked it up and cant find it

[stoic ridge]

Are treasure piles not better for it?

[azure bronze]

Nope

The best way is lions heads in water map, trust me

[stoic ridge]

Also Im really hoping that workshops come soon, I want to be able to craft jewelry

Consitently

[azure bronze]

you already can?

[stoic ridge]

Essence is a pain

I 100% gurantee that essence is what you will get from deconstructing gear

[azure bronze]

Ah yea no everyone who doesnt craft for str and vig has a hard time

at least youre not someone who needs dex/agi

[stoic ridge]

Will and knowledge isnt hard tbf

[azure bronze]

5 uncommon lifeleafs per ring is brutal

[stoic ridge]

They need to change that

[azure bronze]

yea its wild

[stoic ridge]

Make it gold teeth or something

[azure bronze]

like rare lifeleafs exists, i dont know why those arent used?

it coulda just been 1 rare for an epic ring

even then it doesnt make sense to begin with

[stoic ridge]

Eh lifeleaf doesnt even make sense

[queen patio]

yeah its so much

[stoic ridge]

Make it bones, or gold teeth or something

[azure bronze]

lifeleafs make health pots, youd thing id give vigor

[stoic ridge]

SOmething thats farmable

[azure bronze]

Shoulda been bloody bandages

imo

[stoic ridge]

Actually make it wolf teeth or something. Since they are fast

And you can get em pretty commonly

Or blue eyeballs or any wolf drop

Idk I feel like dire wolves fit agi/dex better

[azure bronze]

mehh wolves have like 3 drops associated to them and only spawn in a single floor

[stoic ridge]

Ice caves too

[azure bronze]

i say bloody bandages because mummies appear pretty much everywhere and have that as one of their uncommon drops and easy to stack up by just playing the game and doesnt really have a use

and its first dex/agi just as much as copper fits str/vig

[stoic ridge]

Just doesnt make much sense flavorwise is all