game-discussion

[stoic ridge]

ALl it needs is a simple buff of not interupting your block while activating it, and it becomes a skillful, rewarding skill

[cursive sparrow]

its so tuff

[spark bear]

unless i can use this with lantern sheild

[fallen flare]

this game should be called play barb or lose evey fight.

[stoic ridge]

No, I just tested it

[spark bear]

dang

[devout jolt]

Barb and Fighterer

[tepid storm]

Didnt expect for people to be that lame about disarm, they wanted to keep going easy mode e.e
The thing i'm kinda pissed, is no one is going to be able to reliable stop a barb (0 nerfs for some reason on barbs xd)

[stoic ridge]

Disarm was a good new skil, but it was situational at best.

And it leaves you with a 30 second cooldown if you whiff.

[devout jolt]

Day 3 as i traverse PVE mode.. a mode i dislike yet like exists. No green daggers insight and i have a faint longing to do anything else than play this game.

[tepid storm]

Crazy how the whole server run a situational skill xd

[stoic ridge]

Yes, you could smack timmys in norms. But any good player learned how to deal with it very quickly

[low kelp]

No more free hits for fighter destroying my parry going to make dungeon clean up way easier now

[stoic ridge]

It was new, and affective against a lot of people

[eager rivet]

How's arena formatted this season as far? as gear cap and does it have to be found by you ?

[stoic ridge]

In 2 weeks, it wouldnt be nearly as affective

As people would start learning how to block with weapons, and to run awway after hearing the sound effect

[tepid storm]

Sadge, is back to only one class running the meta guys, everyone that was rolling fighter now switch to barb haha

[frank void]

Just had to ruin fighter lol

[stoic ridge]

Ive only played a little bit of fighter, but also have killed a lot of fighters because I blocked the disarm, and then they only had 1 other skill that was typically sprint

[crimson tundra]

bro mimic tounge are impossible to find

I killed over 30 mimics now

[low kelp]

I play fighter if you relied on that skill you are just bad

[stoic ridge]

I just think it was an overrated skill. Good, but only procable on swords, and very counterable

Swords have some of the easiest to read swings in the game

[low kelp]

It was broken on slayer fighter lets be honest now

[stoic ridge]

I do think it was strong on slayer

Stronger at least.

Now slayer cant even use it lol

[tepid storm]

On every fighter xd it even won me a squire vs full blue set gear pvp bro

[stoic ridge]

Only way that changes is if they change teh way 2 handed melee works, where it alternateds by holding left click, and you can block by holding right

[frank void]

copium

[torpid wigeon]

SOLID work yet again. Bardishe and SPIN , reset and SPIN. Way to take any skill out of the game. AIRBALL.... otherwise i like it. :X

[stoic ridge]

We wont get through man. People who think it was broken are just people who think most new mechanics are broken

And dont give new mechanics time to get counters. Which they will. They always do

I do think a good nerf to the spin would be to allow silence to cancel it

[devout jolt]

Like druid?

[frank void]

Indeed.

[stoic ridge]

That way rogue, ranger and fighter can shut it down

[fallen flare]

its sad asf

[stoic ridge]

Druid had more problems then disarm, but yes.

[fallen flare]

this game was almost good again

[stoic ridge]

Tbh, they could have fixed the druid issue way sooner by getting rid of instant transformation seasons ago

Instant transformation was what made that class toxic

[tepid storm]

Really hits hard for some people it seems o:
Just give a try to barb guys in a day of easy kills u are going to forget all about it

[stoic ridge]

I feel like whirlwind will just be such a hard skill for them to balance. Itll either be too strong or useless

And because of how strong it is, I think a lot of people are not seeing how problematic hurl weapon is going to be

[lofty barn]

When do weapon smith quest drop?

[stoic ridge]

As soon as whirlwind dies, hurl weapon is going to be the next thing that people cry about in here. I promise

120% weapon damage is insane, and when market opens, cheap blue axes are going to be filling a barbs inventory

I like grappling hook tho, cool new cc addition

[fallen flare]

this game dead ass screaming in yo ear play barb or lose

[tepid storm]

Hurl weapon was already strong xd it isnt that hard of a prediction that is going to be even more now that is faster lul

[stoic ridge]

Yah but it was being overshadowed by whirlwind

[loud fiber]

Is hurl weapon decent?

[lofty barn]

When do weapon smith quest drop?

[stoic ridge]

Its incredibly good. A little hard to learn, but my god will it be frustrating to die to

[tepid storm]

Is like predicting that barbs are going to be the sole meta now that fighters lose disarm e.e

[loud fiber]

Heard. May try it for luls

[stoic ridge]

Rangers should be a good counter pick to barbs

Mosquito rogues too

Mayyyyybe cleric too. If yoru runnign divine prot

[tepid storm]

Is rangers and wiz time

[stoic ridge]

Nah wiz wont touch an mdr barb sadly

Rangers will be a good antimeta pick tho

[tepid storm]

Absolutely no one is going rogue bro xd they died from breeze

[stoic ridge]

And again, Divine prot cleric may be able to just tank a whirlwind

[dusky stratus]

Been Making Beginner Friendly Boss Guides & More For A Few Weeks & Now My Channels At 88 Subscribers & 12k+ Views. A Massive Thank You Dark & Darker Community! You Lot Are Amazing!!

[hallow moat]

When are we able to unlock the rest of the squire weapons?

[stoic ridge]

Def has been annoying to not have a basic weaponsmith quest

[tepid storm]

Rogue needs a rework or something, but yeah, i preffer them fixing whats broken first i hope

[lunar mason]

dam so disarm is now useless

[stoic ridge]

Nah, just niche

[rich cargo]

It can be useful if done properly

[lunar mason]

if someone activates it just don't attack them tho, big sound queue on it

[rich cargo]

If you're not using it properly, it was useless anyways

[stoic ridge]

HR pvp it might still be great when used by someone like sparky

[stoic ridge]

Yes and they may take advantage of you not attacking by using it as bait and rushing you down

[loud fiber]

Oh I didn't even think about it. Isn't slayer fighter useless now? Or maybe not useless but you get the point.

[stoic ridge]

Its now a mind trick skill

[lunar mason]

hm fair

[stoic ridge]

Its useles on slayer fighter

[vagrant knoll]

i want to do 50% CDR barb with a ton of axes.

[loud fiber]

My thoughts exactly.

[icy stratus]

slayer fighter dont need it tho, fastest class inthe game

[tepid storm]

The skill xd slayer still hits like a truck

[stoic ridge]

Again, unless they make it so you can block while dual wielding, disarm is not a skill to take on slayer

[sudden ridge]

anyone know where to find bellows and awl?

[rich cargo]

I don't really get why people are upset with the rework when realistically that's how it should work. You're very rarely going to catch your opponent off guard and disarm them with a heavy blow. Most times a disarm comes from parrying

Okay but how are you going to disarm somebody when you're dual wielding a weapon?

[stoic ridge]

I like to play the new op skills so i can see how they work and play classes that counter them. Since the meta classes have the msot valueable gear, I like hunting them

[vagrant knoll]

you grab their hilt and blade with your swords like chopsticks, and twist it away

[lilac cloud]

why would anyone give a shit how realistic it is, its a game lol

[stoic ridge]

Only thing that needs to change on disarm, is make it so that activating while blocking doesnt interupt yoru block. Makes it a timing skill

[rich cargo]

That's a parry

[icy stratus]

the disarm on hit was busted, now its more like a normal skill. Now they just gotta make barb whirlwind stop spinning when it hits a wall

[rich cargo]

That's exactly what I'm talking about. What you just explained is a parry

[stoic ridge]

That makes whirlwind useless tho. Too harsh of a nerf

[vagrant knoll]

ok then you use your dual weapons to chop their hand off

thats a strike not a parry xd

[stoic ridge]

Maybe make it so their pdr is liek -50% while spinning

[rich cargo]

Because people wanted to complain that this arm was broken to start with. It gets reworked and now they're upset that it's too hard??

[icy stratus]

so that you cant use it next to a wall? like every other weapon or swing

that would make sense, not be busted

[rich cargo]

That went from a disarm to dat arm on the ground

[stoic ridge]

Again, that just kills the skill. It would not be useable in 80% of situations

[loud fiber]

Yeah whirlwind shouldn't go through walls. No other weapon can.

[stoic ridge]

I think they need to find another nerf besides it cancelling when hitting a wall

[icy stratus]

yeah a skill shouldnt be usable in 100% of situations

[lilac cloud]

thinking its op is valid, i just don't understand why anyone would care if it's "realistic". There are fckin wizards and dragons in the game

[icy stratus]

fkn IWIN button

[rich cargo]

And I'll agree there. That would be a perfectly good change to it

[stoic ridge]

Very skillful skill to use, and great reward for being good at it

[vagrant knoll]

yeah it'd be unusable 90% of the game if it bonked walls, but its turbo OP to go through walls. so just remove the skill i guess

[stoic ridge]

Its a problematic skill for sure

[rich cargo]

Yes thinking it's op is completely valid, but when you change the perk and people call it completely trash because they reworked it in a way that makes sense then yeah

[real goblet]

whats the point of uniques now

[late mantle]

guys someone knows the best build for wizard for trios ???

[stoic ridge]

Its so problematic because itll either be useless, or busted. Again, maybe if they take away all the barbs armor while spinning it could be good

[rich cargo]

Yes it would also make it feel more fluent

[stoic ridge]

You can make some crazy builds if you get the right uniques

[paper copper]

What are unique gems used for?

[nimble lodge]

just reducing the whirlwind from 3 to 2 swings would be good, less annoying to play with as well

[icy stratus]

go check Squire to riches, lots of solo barbs running around whirlwinding teams to death

[stoic ridge]

Do this and give them a pdr penalty while swinging

It should be very punishable for how rewarding it is

High risk, High reward

[small inlet]

Wipe was good, they are already fucking it up with this patch 😂

[stoic ridge]

It would also fit with the rest of the barbs abilities that take away pdr

[icy stratus]

found the fighter solo player

[stoic ridge]

Fighters running disarm were in for a rude awakening when they started getting blocked.

[devout jolt]

3 mstone mortars 1 pve run! 0 green daggers 20+ pve runs.

[paper copper]

The skill was not broken at all. People not knowing how to counter it got butt hurt 😂

[dusky stratus]

Changing attribute on unique weapon or gear . Goldsmith sockets gems

[loud fiber]

You can't change unique gear rn

[paper copper]

I can’t change the attribute on my unique items with the gems

[loud fiber]

With gems no?

[stoic ridge]

I really do think that whirlwind would be fine if they either made it 2 swings, or reduced PDR while swinging. Then it becomes very punishable, and might make the barb 2 tappable while hes swinging

[stoic ridge]

I like this version of the skill more, just want them to make it so that activating doesnt interupt yoru block

[stoic ridge]

You cant gem uniques

They should make it so unique gems can be broken down into 3 legendaries of the same type

Maybe they will with workshops

[silver wedge]

https://streamable.com/62z6bf this is balanced?

[small inlet]

you have fighter and barb in your tag, get a life go outside

[night folio]

glad they didnt touch WW....... super fun

[barren tinsel]

this game needs to only be SSF.. thoughts?

[stoic ridge]

No lol

[icy stratus]

i have all tags

[silver wedge]

yeah if u wanna be the only one playing

[night folio]

SSF is just an unemplyoment check

[stoic ridge]

First couple weeks is fine, market is what makes it fun for longer. I like playing the economy

[vagrant knoll]

i'd be so down if there was stash sorting. it's sooo easy to get a billion legendaries but sorting them onto the right characters to make builds is annoying

its easy to get items and hard to make a kit out of them lol so many clicks and searching and char switching

[lavish token]

where to find green cermonial daggers

[stoic ridge]

I hope that when they are about to do the 1.0 launch, that they dont add any new content, and just focus on QoL, and bug fixing.

[shut wigeon]

:3

[night folio]

I take solice in knowing that everytime i see a hyper geared andy in a lobby i know they dont have a job and this is all they got

[lusty spade]

bruh i havent found one all wipe

[icy stratus]

ive gotten 1/2

[night folio]

you dont

[stoic ridge]

Because they said they dont plan on marketing anymore until they get the game in a better spot. And if they do it right, 1.0 could bring a lot of streamers back to the game, which could get us back to a 50k player base for a while

[polar talon]

i have always said that. SSF only. SSF bring a steady dynamic in dungeon from early to late season. the biggest problem of the market is that it kill that dynamic. when the market is open, players doesnt really raid the dungeons anymore. they buy lab kits and min maxx and just run over wich give a very boring state of the game imo. SSF keep that charm of grinding chests and farming mats for crafting

[silver wedge]

same thing said last 3 wipes games not getting any more popular than this

[stoic ridge]

Like I dont think people would mind if there was 0 new content on the 1.0 launch if there were 50k players concurrent, and a ton of QoL changes

[lavish token]

whrere from

[icy stratus]

just a random mob or chest iirc

[stoic ridge]

This game would go to 2k concurrent if they they made it perma ssf

[barren tinsel]

cant agree more

[sinful gull]

disarm seems to not work at all with a halberd and I thought it should now

[finite roost]

it doesn't work right now its kinda borken

[stoic ridge]

It should proc when blocking an attack with any weawpon

[silver wedge]

you need to play the game to make money to use the market? what do you mean people dont raid anymore lol

[polar talon]

doesnt matter and i dont think thats true. alot love the game at its core

[icy stratus]

many ppl hate the guts of Auction house and will quit as soon as it comes out

[stoic ridge]

A lot dont mind it for the first few weeks. More enjoy the economy and building kits and gridning to buy the kits they want

[polar talon]

the currency in game should move toward something else like crafting wise. reemember. SSF and crafting could be a very good mixture

[stoic ridge]

And the people waiting to play until market opens will take their spots

[night folio]

its defintely true SSF is a playground for unemployed to farm people who cant run all day. market makes it so people can get decent gear on charcters they actually want to play and compete

[rapid vapor]

I kinda wish they'd remove map specific quests, consolidate all the maps into 1 pool, and then have ssf and non ssf queues

[stoic ridge]

Consolidate the maps into 1 pool? Horrid idea, they did that and people hated random dungeons. It does not work

[polar talon]

the way it is its because players are used that the market exist. remove the market and design toward that decision

[stoic ridge]

Some builds are not playable on specific maps

And rnging into the wrong map can mean that all yoru time spent on a build is wasted

Which is what made A LOT of people quit last season

Myself included. Too many times I just died because it put me on a map bad for my class, and I got caught by the wrong class

Not to mention, it made boss farming miserable

Rotations coming back would be cool tho

[shut wigeon]

is the game still worth playing

[icy stratus]

water map was a mistake

[shut wigeon]

trueee

[stoic ridge]

Agreed. Id rather we just have 3 maps, and new layers. Maybe different seasons could have rotating layers

[night folio]

so magically people just wont know what stats are better and stack them. And time played wont make you insanely stronger then other purely because you have had time to run more and see more drops.

[night folio]

Depends what you used to play. if its TM warlock dont bother

[rapid vapor]

Rotations or 1 pool either way consolidating queues and making things less map dependent would help. But also, other than maybe the water map what maps are you struggling on with a specific class?

[icy stratus]

The swimming kills it, make the water map super dark, remove 90% of the water and add land and its probably decent

[stoic ridge]

I disagree, I main TM lock and its still fine. Just poke a bit and learn how to parry and youll win a lot

[shut wigeon]

im a cleric main

did warlock get nerfed?

[stoic ridge]

Goblin caves was hellish on lock because of all the landmines last season

[rapid vapor]

Or just make swimming faster, or boats more plentiful even

[icy stratus]

much lower dmg, great self healing, slow casting, people catch you, you die

[night folio]

TM cant heal anymore passed recoverable health and true magic damage was removed so TM warlock tickles now crazy

[stoic ridge]

Ruins and ice caves were fine. But GC and Water map were atrocious

[icy stratus]

nah specifically the water has to go

[shut wigeon]

oof-

[polar talon]

all this game needs is remove normal mode and HR mode system. only make PVE mode and 1 official mode. that would merge playerbase. Second make the game only SSF. design the game toward SSF and crafting system. Keep the market for materials. keep trade spam chat for gear. remove squire to hero. Keep Arena for weekends and make Arena SSF. than if the playerbase is at 2k doesnt matter remember when we ad trio only? 2k players in game and lobbies were pact

[stoic ridge]

I appreciate the effort of trying something new in water map, but it didnt work.

Firedeep is an amazing addition tho.

[buoyant edge]

Yeah buddy go ahead and just leave the discord

[night folio]

TM warlock deals less damage then other casters. has less options then other casters and less team utility. is also more useless in melee range and is worse at long range 🙂

[finite roost]

I love the water map actually i dont get all the hate on it

[stoic ridge]

Lol trios only was the closest this game ever came to actually full dying

[devout jolt]

Same I also liked the water map, more so than the new addition in GC and I normally dislike water maps in games.

[night folio]

TM warlock has literally nothing going for it anymore there is never a reason to have a caster warlock over other casters

[finite roost]

Maelstrom NEEDS some fixes esspcially with water but its fun

[polar talon]

thats not true. trio onlys ruins was full lobies all time even at 2k

[stoic ridge]

Still great for bossing

[rapid vapor]

I like the idea. It just needs work. But that's also why it says early access on it or whatever

[stoic ridge]

2k concurrent is horrid. Yes full lobbies, but doesnt matter if you have minimal players.

[fair geode]

guys do u have lag big rn =?

[stoic ridge]

You need more then 2k concurrent for a game like this to stay profitable

[finite roost]

hella lag

[night folio]

hellfire boss damage was mega nerfed and you kill bosses slower then just melee damage.

[wet canyon]

yo where is the loot in goblin hell

[buoyant edge]

Actual fix, keep landmine rogue unplayable and nerf Druid 3 more times just to be sure game will be fine

[polar talon]

yes it does. when u play a match, u want full lobby? doesnt matter if theres only 500 players in game as long as your matches are healthy

[stoic ridge]

Ive still been killing HR wyvern just as easy tbh

[paper copper]

I like it a lot too!

[stoic ridge]

Brother, the vast majority of people here, thought that trios only was one of the dumbest things Ironmace ever did

The streamers too.

Trios only, genuinely almost perma killed this game

[buoyant edge]

Playerbase was like 30% trios so 70% of the game just lost their only way to play idk how people are defending that decision

[polar talon]

thats not true. u are spreading false statements brother. i had good conversation here in the past about trio only. it was mix. also on Ken kenobi stream

[night folio]

Even queueing for normal ruin trios i rarely get a full team fill.

[cyan karma]

sdf's born was the only mistake

[paper copper]

I would take what streamers say with a grain of salt . Lot of them got banned for exploiting the game . Not arguing against your point just saying

[stoic ridge]

Dude, stats are proving you wrong lol. But whatever, keep believing your delusions.

[night folio]

How does that have any meaning at all?

[buoyant edge]

Brother the playerbase dropped to sub 1k players that had NEVER happened not even close 2/10 ragebait

[paper copper]

The ones that are screaming for change are the same ones manipulating the game . All I’m saying

[nocturne nest]

irrelevent to people disliking trio's. completely

[stoic ridge]

Tbf that expoit ban was stupid. IM made a mistake and shouldnt have punished anyone for that more then wiping their gold

[polar talon]

thats also not true... i was on this game all time and when trio only was there always around 2k players

[nimble lodge]

https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/Crypt-01-N is this up to date?

[icy stratus]

i went into squire to riches yesterday with a battle axe barb and cleaned house after house after house. used to be the shittiest weapon in the game, they added a lil skill so now its the most broken shit imaginable

[stoic ridge]

Trios is fine, but the streamers thought that trios only was actually about to kill the game

[lilac cloud]

cringe take, obviously should be punished for exploiting

[nocturne nest]

irrelevent to people disliking trio's. completely

[paper copper]

If a bank left there vault door cracked and you broke into the building and took the money. Your still a thief 💀

[night folio]

playerbase has been exploiting the game the entire time its been out bro..... isnt just the streamers they are just examples for recency. hotswapping and ranged achillies were exploits and those never got in trouble and vast majority of playerbase was doing it. everyone in HR lobbies was

[bitter pewter]

Any chance to extend twitch drops for couple of days? It bugs often and doesn't count the hours -.-"

[buoyant edge]

Weird patch notes didn’t mention nerfing Druid 4 more times gotta make sure that class stays unplayable for solos and duos support Druid is fine

[stoic ridge]

It was hardly an expoit. They messed up the prices. No glitch was done, nothing that wouldnt normally be done.

They shoulda money wiped, and said oops.

[stoic ridge]

That analogy is pointless lol

[night folio]

also it had 0 impact on the game gold is useless right now

[paper copper]

Because you didn’t read it

[stoic ridge]

Theres been many much worse things that people have abused in this game and went unpunished for. That was such a harmless thing, and a lot of people prolly did it because its such a simple and stupid mistake that the devs messed up. they shouldnt punish people for their mistake.

[grand beacon]

this

[stoic ridge]

Its a game, morals like that do not matter when compared to something. And its not like gold has real value anyways, unless you are breaking TOS selling it

[night folio]

it makes 0 sense in context it is a logical extreme with 0 basis on what happened

[stoic ridge]

If they reworked water map like this, I think the player base would love it more. Keep the swimming mechancs for the boss, and the route to the boss.

[lusty spade]

what is the room called on ruins it used to be an arenas map like the only one that doesnt have pve it has some rubysiler spawns in it and the middle of room has like 4 stone pedastals with loose loot anyone help?

[night folio]

the bank cant just wipe the money away and the money in dark is useless right now unlike the money from a bank.

[stoic ridge]

When I read about all the bans fromt he expoit I thought people were duping artifacts or something lmao. That would have made sense

[night folio]

even the most gentle of critical thinking and your thought idea makes no sense

[grand beacon]

the last thing counter strike style movement needed was a swimming mechanic

[lusty spade]

what is the room called on ruins it used to be an arenas map like the only one that doesnt have pve it has some rubysiler spawns in it and the middle of room has like 4 stone pedastals with loose loot anyone help?

[zealous wing]

That’s the boss connecting room, need to kill both bosses to open it

[dense sequoia]

if in animal form as a druid, is there no way to return to my original Dwarf race ? just the human aninaml form ?

[lusty spade]

thank u

[stoic ridge]

Again, I think if they kept it just for a unique boss mechanic, itd be fine.

[jaunty sandal]

WHERE ARE THE QUESTS

[night folio]

in your questlog?

[jaunty sandal]

when are new quests coming out wtf

[night folio]

oh thats what you meant lol

[rapid vapor]

Wait if you're a dwarf druid it changes you into a human when you transform back?

[dense sequoia]

no , asking how i return back to my original Dwarf skin that I entereed with, sorry new druid player

[stoic ridge]

How would yall feel, if in 2 seasons after monk is out, they announced the 1.0 wipe, and said that it would be all QoL and Bug fix changes, with minimal new content, but that they had deals with streamers to check out the 1.0 launch?

[paper copper]

All I’m saying is people who bugs the game should be held accountable. If it’s someone’s goal to be the first one to unlock religion rewards and some random dude just decides to generate himself 100k he should be banned and streamers who promote should be held to the same standard.

[fair geode]

guys are u having connection issues ?

[umbral gulch]

lol disarm got fucked

[paper copper]

It’s not something up for debate it’s breaking the rules 😂

[stoic ridge]

Would this kill a season for most of yall, or would you be excited that a lot of players might be coming back

[zealous wing]

The human form spell on the spell wheel

[night folio]

oh boy a shitty red version of a skin that already exists. guess the games broken forever lmfao

[fair geode]

i really like water map and ahve beebn playing it manly

[quaint timber]

Im a big fan of people doing white box and black box testing before pushing to live updates 🤷🏻‍♂️

Seems that would have been super easy to find with any testing at all 🤦🏻‍♂️

[dense sequoia]

thanks, does that turn into human or back to dwarf ?

[zealous wing]

Your dwarf is just a skin ( still counts as human)

[night folio]

unfortunate banned for testing mistakes in an early access test game

[dense sequoia]

thx

[paper copper]

I agree but there is a difference between testing and promoting and using it to unlock rewards. Like if you see it’s a problem report the bug don’t abuse it

[night folio]

SDF not gonna let you hit bro

[paper copper]

I could care less about that man

[lapis sigil]

im coming back after a while, did they remove the +1 all atributes stat?

[night folio]

they leave much worse exploits that actually effect gameplay in for months and never punish people for doing them. They just made an example out of this one randomly

[rapid vapor]

Seems so. For now.

[patent condor]

abandoned sanctuary - Ruins, used to be called Chapel
#dnd-screenshots message

[paper copper]

Yeah and I hope they continue to make examples out of people. I’m happy they finally took action instead of letting slide like they always do. It’s annoying.

[patent condor]

abandoned sanctuary - Ruins, used to be called Chapel
#dnd-screenshots message

[night folio]

Crazy that 330 ms barbs can instant weapon swap and swing without taking a MS down and hit you in the back of the head because they drag items in their inventory. but that ones fine

no bans for that and its in the game for a long ass time

[rapid vapor]

I'm hoping it's a sign they'll enforce punishments for future exploits. I'd rather a light slap on the wrists for this one as a sign that they're going to punish exploiting in the future than a bunch of people randomly being permabanned

[paper copper]

I hope so too

[night folio]

If they hold up to it thats be nice but i have negative faith in the IronMace team for that stuff

[shrewd glen]

🥹when news quest

[paper copper]

As long as I don’t get rolled back because of some little Timmie or streamer bug abusing I’m fine. They can get banned from now to the next life

[paper copper]

Heard some people said tonight

[quaint timber]

Im so lucky the launch was abysmal and the timer was not the correct time for the launch of the new league or I would probably be banned too 😂

If the devs made it that way its a feature not a bug, they manually set the sell price and failed to plan for the gameplay loop it created 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[shrewd glen]

🙏

[stoic ridge]

Cleric with diving prot does seem to be a good coutner to whirlwind

[sinful prawn]

yeah they're stupid af

[night folio]

Good thing they banned the gold exploiters so that people could just abuse trees and have infinite gold already anyways 🙂 W CopperHammer great one

or uhh oh break barrels that drop 5000g fruits

[primal ether]

guys when does the quest for the weaponsmith affinity come out ?

[shrewd glen]

?

[night folio]

sometime between now and never

[primal ether]

thanks

[junior wyvern]

They are really trying to make this game barb and barber

[night folio]

break barrels for pears, sell pear for 5000g to vendor ggez

[paper copper]

They made a mistake and the people who capitalized on an unattended feature got punished. It wasn’t the people who did once or twice . It was people who performed thousands of actions.

[shrewd glen]

What ?😯

[night folio]

impact power barbs run full dungeons breaking doors and barrels and just cash in

[night folio]

uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm try 120 actions. exactly enough to not ban repoze and vincent but good try though

[paper forum]

W fucking update

They are COOKING this wipe

[quaint timber]

Imagine getting banned for taking potions out of your slots and then going to squire after every raid to collect 2 free pots and bandages in an early access game 😂

They made it work that way, they should have just owned up to the mistake and stopped it imo 🤷🏻‍♂️

[paper copper]

I don’t know if you guys are rage baiting me or are serious 💀

[quaint timber]

50/50 😂

[night folio]

#📢announcements message at least know what you are talking about

it was for people who did it 120 times or more, not just thousands

[vapid oyster]

lol

[night folio]

and it was super convenient that if it was 115 more more that theyd have to ban other streamers but they gated them into safety

[paper copper]

Thank for clarifying that 😂 😭

[prime herald]

where would I go to ask about tips for boss fights? me and my duo are abysmally bad at fighting bosses, getting killed within a minute most times, and we gotta start getting good at the game

[night folio]

nah he just doesnt know what he is yapping about lowkey

[night folio]

There are full guides on YT of every boss

[quaint timber]

Insert thats bait meme right here

[vapid oyster]

imagine being mad about cheaters getting banned

[odd grove]

Which boss are you trying to beat? Some are harder than others

[quaint timber]

Cheaters got banned?

That implies they modified or used scripts not included with the game? 👀

[prime herald]

I'm so damned stupid I didn't think of that lmao

[vapid oyster]

I'm going to join a discord to complain about cheaters being banned

[junior wyvern]

this is absolutely wild, dudes are so parasocial they will openly defend exploiters

[vapid oyster]

it doesn't imply anything lol

[paper copper]

Ryan6 makes good videos on bossing mechanics . I would watch those and you guys will die a lot. It’s apart of the learning experience . I would focus on some easier bosses before trying to do the harder ones. See how you do against cyclops as a team

[prime herald]

any 😭

[night folio]

cheaters have been getting away with it forever here. Im only upset cause the one time they address it was a time it was harmless

[prime herald]

right, so should we go in with squire gear to try and learn it?

[odd grove]

focus on the ones you can access right away while youre learning like troll, cyclops; those ones are on floor one and are some of the easiest
like others said look for guides on yt then attempt

[paper copper]

Absolutely

[prime herald]

oh wait pve allows goblin merchant to bring stuff back I forgot

[vapid oyster]

nooooo sometimes cheaters don't get caught and that means we should just never punish any cheaters

[paper copper]

Just keep in mind some bosses change with the high roller variants.

[night folio]

Just say you werent here for hotswapping lil bro

[vapid oyster]

omg he hit me with the lil bro, how will I recover from this

[odd grove]

[paper copper]

His perfect little streamer got banned and doesn’t know how to act

Or he got banned one of the two

[prime herald]

there was a bug that people exploited?

[night folio]

Nah i was waiting for bans for exploits forever and they never came. just mad about this being the time it happened

[vapid oyster]

brand new to discord, complaining about cheaters getting banned, calling people lil bro, fuckin kek

[odd grove]

yeah, bunch of streamers got banned just as wipe dropped lol

[night folio]

rejoined the discord im not new lmfao

[vapid oyster]

[prime herald]

damn

[night folio]

Imagine taking a break from a game and leaving the discord for the months you are gone impossible

[prime herald]

glad they're pushing for that unlike bad companies who let streamers fly for that stuff

[odd grove]

fr

[night folio]

also you can see my winter event role to show im not new.....

[quaint timber]

I wish we had an influx of timmies from watching the streamers tbf 👀

[odd grove]

all timmies flock to pve anyway

[prime herald]

I am guilty of this, it's nicer and doesn't punish me for existing in the wrong spot lmao

if I played pvp I'd essientally just be a loot bag for people

[spiral totem]

keep the volume at 1% at least, if you mute it now twitch may not count you as a viewer.

[junior wyvern]

mute the tab and twitch will never know

[odd grove]

im not trying to say its a bad thing dont get me wrong, this game is hard pve has its place for people to learn

[prime herald]

I have so many hours in this game I should be doing pvp by now but I am still abysmally bad lmao

[spiral totem]

this will work as long as your not on chrome.. the option for chrome is 'mute site' lol

[quaint timber]

Didnt they let the streamers just make new accounts and stream on those? 👀

[spiral totem]

the tarkov way ❤️

[prime herald]

[night folio]

yes, they super punished people XDDDDDDDDD

[prime herald]

it's like a slap on the wrist lmao

[night folio]

$30 charge for exploiting

[spiral totem]

🐀

[night folio]

also wasnt just streamers anyone can

They allowed ban evasion for a pricetag

[spiral totem]

the player count dropped by around 5K... not saying they were all exploiting but it was a big drop following that patch lol

[night folio]

great sign that things are gonna improve

[night folio]

yah I imagine most people just waited a week or arent coming back. imagine paying them for a mistake they made

[paper copper]

Sending you A DM

[junior wyvern]

maybe because those hours werent spent practicing pvp?

[spiral totem]

a season long ban was a bit much.. but I guesss some people REALLY exploited it. like you said, it was IMs mistake but a roll back wouldn't have been easy because everyone collecting the seasonal rewards I think.

[jovial night]

i fkin parried with halbred and disarm didn't work. love this game

[prime herald]

I tried for a while and gave up, pve is, to me, more fun and relaxed with my duo. but we're gonna start going a little bit more try hard and learning the harsher parts of this game. I will never hate on PVE onlys, as it's much more forgiving and some people enjoy that

[nimble lodge]

send me also 😄

[dire crystal]

Disarm only works with sword type weapons

[night folio]

Nope not anymore

[warm tendon]

New quests later today?

[deep helm]

Let's go I'm back

[night folio]

works and weapon on a parry (supposed to)

[dire crystal]

Oh shit really since when

[night folio]

today

[dire crystal]

Nice

[night folio]

Reworked it but its buggy

[dire crystal]

Definitely expect some bugs then🤣

[proper meteor]

someone please tell me where i get Intricate Wooden Figurines!!!

[junior wyvern]

I understand and i didnt mean to sound rude. PvP is indeed brutal, and many times unfair. But the only way to improve at something is practicing it. Trust it will start to click

[elfin fern]

why did we nerf bard? fighters and barbs were already catching us

[night folio]

They made bard faster what you mean

[raw relic]

Is that the craft one from wood guy?

[deep helm]

10 purple and 10 blue logs to the woodsman

Barbarian should be faster than he is without doing a special build especially since DND normally they r

[night folio]

faster while playing slower in general is a good tradeoff IMO most time caught was playing a tune

[limber tiger]

soooo.. wheres the new quests?

[elfin fern]

hard disagree, that's a timing issue on the song player's part

[deep helm]

Apparently supposed to be later tonight

[night folio]

quests reset at 6pm CST

[limber tiger]

cheers, thatd be sweet - need more to do

[deep helm]

Right I have like 3 left to do and I'm bored

I've just been gold farming

[limber tiger]

i got none left since 2 days and hr is also done..

[jovial night]

wasnt it changed to make it work with all melee weapons?

[night folio]

Yes but its broken rn

[weary trench]

where you get AWL and Bellows

[elfin fern]

bellows is dropped by wraith

i think awl is skellies

[limber tiger]

Disarm nerf is a W

[night folio]

AWL is spear skeletons

[deep helm]

If we don't get weapon Smith affinity I swear to god

[limber tiger]

yea that would be stupid - everyone can buy the weapon they want anyways from the weaponsmith its just inconvenient

[midnight salmon]

where can I find me a stew?

[limber tiger]

zombies

[deep helm]

I still need 2 gold weapons like I have 20 gold armor and haven't gotten weapons worth shit

[night folio]

Brother tailor rep when playing S2R as warlock without gear is aids

[limber tiger]

go to HR and open golden chests, almost every 2nd got a legi weapon for me

[regal condor]

they really didnt add any quest did they?

[limber tiger]

supposedly later tonight

[deep helm]

So Abt that, I play killer on DbD bc I can't get the skill checks too well plus HR I go in get logs and leave

[night folio]

You are cooked

[old rune]

They killed Sorc

[deep helm]

Don't I know it

[night folio]

DBD player and cant hit skillchecks is a frocked up reality

[deep helm]

Hey hey hey I am casual

[limber tiger]

you talking about the timing on the golden chests?

[deep helm]

I play Michael Myers and just stalk on there

[paper copper]

Hahaha why 😭

[fickle swan]

do wraiths still spawn in the bottom right room of ruins?

[night folio]

yah its a 1 to 1 direct copy from the DBD skilchecks

[deep helm]

Yea and I don't play bard so I can't do that lol

[runic harness]

For you HR players that do lots of bossing, do yall try to clear lobby first or fight as people come while your bossing?

[limber tiger]

ahhh gotcha, either create a bard or rogue with the traps and locks passive, you can do it with lvl 1

[devout jolt]

Does that make you randy?

[night folio]

not possible anymore with continuous joining. Just do bosses and win fights when they rat after. You learn roughly how long they take to kill and will heal before boss ends. Most rats cant kill bosses and wont enter until its dead

[limber tiger]

agreed, also sometimes you can use the boss to your advantage when they do come in early

[night folio]

Depending on what bosses yah. GK punishes rats by jumping to them when they come in the door which is nice. lich can give them orbs and circles and they dont go away when they run out those are great as well

[runic harness]

Maybe my team and I need to wear more biss, so many people rushing in mid boss and at the end.

[limber tiger]

and warlord you can sometimes win with the explosion timing

[night folio]

IDK fire or water boss but having trouble thinking of other bosses that do stuff like that

how you baiting that though? I assume you mean initial ads if you are just doing long sword boss version

[limber tiger]

yea works better on sorc, you have them follow you to the zone initially and lightning vortex them out

[night folio]

ahhhhhhhh fair

i thought you meant the ads exploding didnt think of the map explosion

[noble wren]

🤣

[limber tiger]

from what ive seen a lot of ppl just ignore the ads and let him get the big boy sword straight away xD

[charred veldt]

Ummm

[night folio]

yup doesnt change fight much if you are a boss hugger. only changes it if you try to range him

[charred veldt]

Guys why does arena open in 6 DAYS?

[lusty terrace]

How do I go lower in the goblin caves?

[short cairn]

Does the new disarm work if you parry a spell or ranged attack as well? If so that's going to be hilarious

[crude minnow]

nerfed disarm but broke controller supp 1 step forward 10 steps back and i also hate the disarm change

[charred veldt]

IT SAYS FEB 6 TO FEB 8 WHAT

[limber tiger]

also it possibly helps with 3rd parties, if someone approaches from behind they might get hit easier

[charred veldt]

Ah nvm it is 6 hours

[night folio]

fair

[charred veldt]

bard nerfs got me tweaking

[lusty terrace]

Guys im at the red stairs in the gob caves how do i go down

[cursive sparrow]

^

[limber tiger]

its aight ig, 3 movespeed less but buff while playing songs is fair

[cursive sparrow]

@charred veldt they got us AGAIN

[charred veldt]

it's apparently fine you can get literally +37 strenght on squire but bard can't have 3 extra ms

[cursive sparrow]

when bard could apply all buffs to teamates it was peak

since then we've been getting railed

[night folio]

https://klipy.com/gifs/beyblade-beyblade-g-revolution-1

[limber tiger]

true, the awkward moment when your team is sticking close while you play self-buffs only xD

[night folio]

oh no gifs....

[cursive sparrow]

@limber tiger it saddens me it used to be such a nice support class now its just w key

[spiral totem]

how do I do this?

[cursive sparrow]

or survival bow spam

[charred veldt]

you have 2 friends?

[night folio]

Bard is just an insane boxer class now

[charred veldt]

Ok so... This is how it goes:

1 - Cleric (drunk, perseverance)
2 - Warlock (can be platelock but needs spells)
3 - fighter (banner)

Power of sacrifice is +15 str and vig. with perseverance you don't get as much damage, you can tank with a pot

Banner gives you +5 all, drunk cleric gives you +10, common ale gives you 5 or something

[elfin fern]

i still dont understand how you get this, we are literally slower except when playing songs

[winged echo]

does reckless atack work on bosses? ?

[charred veldt]

pointless I think with how armor pen works, considering all bosses have negative
bard shriek of weakness makes them take 60% increased damage as ther PDR goes even further negative, which scales a LOT

[limber tiger]

i think he means looking back to when buffs applied to your teammates vs now where you mostly self-buff

[honest cedar]

Just delete rogue class at this point.

The disrespect to the class is real.
No updates.
No new weapons.
2 shottable class that can stealth. Woot.

• peak game design, Ironmace

[cerulean vessel]

anyone know what weapons can and cant be used with disarm?

[charred veldt]

there

[night folio]

I mean now as compared when they used to be a support class. not because of todays changes

[elfin fern]

it's like +10 armor rating to self that's the only difference i think

[limber tiger]

yea it is

[lusty spade]

STARTING TO BELIEVE GREEN CEROMONIALS DAGGERS ARENT REAL

[charred veldt]

Apparently more balanced than 3 movespeed on bard

[elfin fern]

i think you have to play pve for them it's dumb

[charred veldt]

Imagine you also run on that cleric a full build

[devout jolt]

3 days of pve i feel this

[night folio]

+5 all was so op and busted on warlock gotta gut the entire thing and make it so everything rips your stacks off. +5 all for you entire trio though thats fine good one SDF

[charred veldt]

imagine. 65 strenght, capped PDR, smite full add magical

[winter crane]

Do these devs ever queue one game? Let’s buff the class that everyone plays!!

[charred veldt]

Whose out boxing you?

[lusty spade]

i legit running only pve for them just hit twp diff piles and multi lion heads i have 6 blue ones

[prime herald]

I remember at one point rogues were the most insane class, but they got nerfed and forgotten for a while now

[cursive sparrow]

rogues are still really strong man

[prime herald]

still strong, they just don't have nearly as much fear factor as they used to have and not much is done with them

[limber tiger]

at the upper gear end rogue is still nasty and hide still as strong as it always was - also they get new stuff later / end of wipe

[prime herald]

I gotta pay more attention, they're adding stuff at end of wipe? that sounds nice

[charred veldt]

when are we getting our new quests

btw which mob drops bellows?

I know awls were wraiths

[lusty spade]

wraith

[cursive sparrow]

awls are spearmen

[charred veldt]

I'm cooked then

[lusty spade]

awls are not wraiths they are spearman

[limber tiger]

yea they said in the dev QA before the season dropped that barb and fighter get new stuff at the start of the wipe followed by ranger and rogue at the end of the wipe, next season was wiz rework i believe

[charred veldt]

Ah yes

[prime herald]

wiz rework? that sounds banger

[charred veldt]

No bard

gotta buff barb

[limber tiger]

ye id be down for that for sure - so i get that in the process some classes gonna feel better than others but we getting somewhere

[paper copper]

Wizard is the only caster class I think that isn’t able to summon a npc. Would be cool if we got something like that 😮

[prime herald]

necromancer when

[halcyon crown]

wizard summons fireball wym

[paper copper]

Cleric - swarm, warlock - hydra, sorc - fire golem, Druid - tree int, wizard - nothing

[sharp hearth]

and they didnt add squire weapons?

[paper copper]

Well yeahhhhhh but you know what I mean

[prime herald]

bard seems like it'd be hard to add stuff to, because it's a buffing class and if you overtune it you overtune any duo/trio that has bard in it much like the healer cleric stuff happening rn

[paper copper]

Like summoning creatures

[stoic ridge]

How does true damage bonus work with physical damage bonus?

[limber tiger]

hell yea!:D would be dope if we had like an elemental skyrim-style

[elfin fern]

i dont know what their vision for bard is; are they trying to make music more of how we fight than melee?

[cursive sparrow]

all they gotta do is give buffs back to bard

i swear id be so happy

[devout jolt]

green dagger > uniques

[paper copper]

Would be sick!!!!!

[charred veldt]

even quality of life is better than nothing

[stoic ridge]

Nah some uniques are cracked

[charred veldt]

chorale of clarity is absolutely sh!t

they should give a 100% faster skill cooldown recovery while resting with it active, and double the spell recovery

[devout jolt]

rarity, green dagger > uniques

[paper copper]

Still waiting on the electric guitar update

[prime herald]

bard seems really mid to me rn. I played it a lot because funny music man but it's not that good to me

[charred schooner]

how do you get the secondary shared tab? I see people with both a gold one and gray one

[sharp hearth]

and they didnt add squire weapons?

[cursive sparrow]

bard feels nothing like it once felt,

[prime herald]

I never played peak bard nor have I seen it

[junior wyvern]

bard is insanely good

[paper copper]

Bard is still pretty peak

[cursive sparrow]

def not peak ANYMORE

[prime herald]

I don't see how bard is that good rn, but I haven't played it this season

[limber tiger]

or a long-term progress mechanic like lvl 1 you have a super small and barely helpful companion and every 10 character levels it upgrades or smth

[paper copper]

He has a utility for literally every situation

[prime herald]

I might try and see what bard has to offer this wipe

[cursive sparrow]

he used to be so compy

[elfin fern]

bard historically has four play modes with some mixes:

• hard support
• kitey pokey speedy guy that dives backline (less so now thanks to speed nerfs)
• frontliner that debuffs
• annoying aoe damage support (less so now)

and has amazing pve and aoe environment interacts, if you don't feel like the Hero of Time when playing bard they're doing it wrong

so these need to be viable builds, plus that great bossing/looting thing, which i don't think deserves a nerf but should instead be buffed for other classes

[paper copper]

The deeper you go in the dungeon the stronger it gets

[cursive sparrow]

hard support was best times of bard imo

[limber tiger]

that'd also be interesting

[sharp hearth]

and they didnt add squire weapons?

[stoic ridge]

Stupidly no

[paper copper]

W community

[noble wren]

Summon the flame spirit to shoot at enemies like in the new fire map?

[limber tiger]

nah that one would be too boring imo:D

[paper copper]

Best idea so far someone hire this man

[midnight salmon]

thx

[paper copper]

Wait hear me out. He summons a blade that follows him

Floating blade

[prime herald]

I like that they're adding new perks and skills to classes and overhauling stuff, it's nice to see they're putting effort and care in, as well as nerfing things when it's too strong

[charred schooner]

how do you get the secondary shared tab? I see people with both a gold one and gray one

[lyric bough]

Anyone else having issues with the quest "The Basics" for the Woodsman? Says it's just two gray campfire kits which I have, but he isn't accepting them

[charred veldt]

pay 5$

[paper copper]

Did you loot them from the dungeon?

[lyric bough]

Nope!

[paper copper]

That’s why

[lyric bough]

Thanks!

[cursive sparrow]

it has to say looted on it they have to be found in raid

[charred schooner]

it snot in the shop?

[paper copper]

Ice map is the best place to get them . Break crates, barrels, and check shelves

[lyric bough]

But I hate that place 😛

[prime herald]

this guy is definitely having the same problem as me with my stash being filled to the brim

[paper copper]

Okay 😭

[noble wren]

I’m there too

[prime herald]

so much gold

[cursive sparrow]

they can spawn in any barrel really

[charred schooner]

I jius tlike to keep my quest items there

[paper copper]

You can craft bags

[cursive sparrow]

skeleton corpses also have em

[prime herald]

yeah but they still fill like half the stash

[paper copper]

You made the one from the trolls pelt?

[spiral totem]

its a struggle for real.. small bags need to hold at least 100g

[prime herald]

the other half is filled with quest items like this guy

how much the trolls pelt one gold?

[cursive sparrow]

yall should get a character and put all quest items in his stashes shared stash should hold gold

gems chests bags

maybe biss gear

[prime herald]

that was not a sentence wtf did I type

[noble wren]

🤣

[prime herald]

how much gold does the troll pelt one hold?

[cursive sparrow]

1k

spectral bag 2.5

[prime herald]

damn hold on I gotta kill trolls

[paper copper]

1K gold per bag or you can get lucky and go for the chest that holds 10K

[prime herald]

that's a boss isn't it

[cursive sparrow]

yeah you can get em from dealmaker aswell

[prime herald]

why do I have to be so bad at this game

[cursive sparrow]

its ok i buy all my pelts i hate goblin caves

full of rats

[paper copper]

I got four troll pelts yesterday 👀

From killing the boss

[noble wren]

Don’t feel bad. I’ve played this game on and off since its release and I’ve bossed maybe 5 times?

[cursive sparrow]

really 😮 i killed like 10 trolls havent found any

[paper copper]

Do it on PVE it cuts out the legendary and uniques from dropping. if your farming for specifically trolls pelt

[cursive sparrow]

i thought the rates were lower in pve, you might be cooking tho i will try

[vapid oyster]

The movement speed bonus of Beats of Alacrity has been adjusted from 5/7/9 to 4/5/6.

look at what they've done to my boy

[paper copper]

You would think so but small loot table = higher chance

[cursive sparrow]

and you run no luck right?

[stoic ridge]

Needed

[paper copper]

I was getting trolls pelts like no one’s business and you risking nothing so you can bring BiS and kill him in less than 2mins

[vapid oyster]

nooooooooo

[stoic ridge]

The loot table on monster drops rolled seperately tho i thought

[paper copper]

I don’t need to because I think luck is bugged but I bring wander’s luck on my bard

[cursive sparrow]

so i should bring luck yes

[paper copper]

So if you do high roller there is a high chance legendary and uniques drop, if you play PVE there is only blue to gold max for him. I farmed him for 4 hours and go 5 pelts. I tested on high roller and normals and didn’t get a single one.

I also tested this with quest item drops. For example the rusty broken sword drop x3 more on PVE then any other mode .

[spiral totem]

^ must be something with the loot tables. isn't it similar with luck?

[frosty cove]

Why do they hate warlock?

[midnight salmon]

where can I find stone mortar and bronze scale?

[spiral totem]

are you talking about the fact they could heal an unlimited amount and never die from it?

[prime herald]

platelock was my fav build a bit ago, the ability to heal off any hits while cursing enemies was fun. definitely needed to be nerfed tho

[spiral totem]

motor is skelly mage.

[tiny forum]

Is anyone else disconnecting when going down to next level or leaving dungeon

[paper copper]

Heard some other people saying they were having the same issue yesterday

[stoic ridge]

As a tm main that nerf was fine, but them doing that and taking away true magic damage did hurt a tonnnn. Should give us a little something for it

[spiral totem]

your class has enough lol

[silk mirage]

When will new quests be available?

[stoic ridge]

Not anymore lol. Phantomize got nerfed a ton. Which was fine. TM doesnt heal past gray anymore which was fine. But the fact they did all that and took away True makes the class feel very weak in pvp. Im still doing alright, but it 100% feels way weaker.

Lock is definitely one of the weaker classes rn

TM lock that is

Not sure how the Demon lock boys are eating

[odd grove]

plate demon lock is fine

[spiral totem]

they just took a few 'free' things away from the class, free healing, free getaways...

[trail flicker]

the people that alwyas do clown emoji on game updates have it bad IRL amirite? Even with a w patch still compaining, and usually about something objectively positive lolll also why are you gaming at 3-10 am anyways. GOod lord

[stoic ridge]

And they also added more silences and cc into teh game, which is an indirect nerf to lock

[cursive sparrow]

can confirm just got a pelt fist try pve after killing him over 10 times hr and nothing

[spiral totem]

EZ

[cursive sparrow]

: D good comms from you guys

[sinful gull]

oh totally .. buff magic healing for poor tm locks btw!

[stoic ridge]

Nah, thats not whats needed. Some damage increase would be nice. Maybe a perk where teh lower your health the more damage you do like barb has

Could make the perk that makes it so you cant die from casting spells is good too

[west wadi]

what...
no

[paper copper]

I have never seen a name quite like yours

[stoic ridge]

Why? Caster lock is weak right now, and going back to teh way it was isnt good either. This creates a new play style for locks where they will be a lot squishier, but might hurt more

[west wadi]

... lmfao ok

[stoic ridge]

I hate how most people here just want to see a class nerfed into teh ground instead of suggesting good changes to make it viable still, but not as problematic as some of them currently are

[viral tinsel]

where are green ceremonial daggers

[odd grove]

i eated them all sorry

[sharp hearth]

didnt adding squire weapoms will make me drop the game again

[sinful ether]

sooo hunting traps cant be placed at all?

[paper copper]

Wow yak save some for the rest of us

[sinful ether]

love the new bugs

[stoic ridge]

Like what would you suggest? Caster lock is in a horridly weak state, what would you change to fix that?

[paper copper]

I don’t think anyone has a solid answer for that question. What sounds good might not work in practice

[prime herald]

I haven't played any casterlock this season to see if anything needs fixing

[west wadi]

its really not horribly weak
you just have no mag heal stuff yet esp in squire
I ran a 8 mag heal and it did perfectly fine

[stoic ridge]

Im runnign full legendary kits, and the damage is not good. The healing nerf was fine. But it does very little damage

[merry adder]

my squire arrows will not go into my quiver....

[west wadi]

its not suppose to do stupid damage
its an attrition battle lol

[prime herald]

I enjoy how the overall ttk has gone down from what I hear, makes me feel like I have a better chance at pvp. however that makes it sound like healing builds are stronger than ever

[odd grove]

i havent played casterlock since bunnyhopping was removed lol, i put 600 fame into that

[west wadi]

yea LB druid buff ball is kinda meta rn in team comps

[stoic ridge]

No its not anymore. MS got taken out, and kiting is harder then ever. Which again, is fine, but the damage is not good

[west wadi]

L ig
ive been doing fine whenever I used it

[pallid hemlock]

yup yup, youve encountered an "Ironmace standard"! a concept implementation that goes against all common logic , thats the IM standard babbbyyyyy!

[west wadi]

just load into the game first and it will let u

[pallid hemlock]

IM standard to a tee ^

[west wadi]

its not that deep..

[prime herald]

cleric and druid are heal botting heavy from what I hear and it makes me scared to go into pvp lobbies lmao

[stoic ridge]

Sdf is not gonna let you hit. We're talking valid issues, and not just hating.

[west wadi]

only really in duos and trios

[prime herald]

I play duos with my friend

[west wadi]

its not a valid issue though..?
how much stuff r u bringing into dungeon you cant afford to leave the arrows not in a quiver until u load in

[prime herald]

after learning bosses, I will start pvping in squire and see where it takes me

[stoic ridge]

It is a valid issue. Its clunky, and not well implemented which leaves a bad impression pn people new to the game. Like what?

[paper copper]

I got hit by one curse from a warlock and it drained me by 35% health and he wasn’t that kitted.

[paper copper]

Had like half purple / blue gear

[west wadi]

this guy is just looking for excuses to complain ima just ignore at this point

we finally get a quiver with a minor bug and yall crash out

[stoic ridge]

Its not crashing out lmfao

[paper copper]

I was just scrolling and I was like wait hold up 😭

[stoic ridge]

The quiver was half ass implemented

[west wadi]

do u listen?

[stoic ridge]

Sdf literally said it was in the Q and A

[west wadi]

they themselves have said it was rushed

[paper copper]

Dude that quiver is huge. I finally have room in my inventory.

[west wadi]

but they wanted to get it out for yall

and ur complaining over something so small

[sinful gull]

currently developing the haldwerb fighter meta, its an uphill journey but change requires sacrifice

[stoic ridge]

Whatever, Im just gonna do us both a favor and mute you. You can do the same

[hushed seal]

is the game down?

[west wadi]

no

[west wadi]

ur living up to ur name lmfao

[inner token]

anyone encountering a pak error (it was like some 800 thing) with a crash? it happened a few times before wipe and now it started happening again... luckily it only crashed in the lobby and not in the dungeon so atleast im not losing stuff apart from my sanity :3

[hushed seal]

me and all of my friends game is down

[prime herald]

is it that the way to play caster lock changed? I had that happen when I played rogue at first, the way to play changed from sneak 1-2 shotting to jumpy rogue. is caster lock more of a ride it out and kite than a quick kill now?

[west wadi]

idk im in and fine

[sinful gull]

has anyone tried demonform as dwarf?

[paper copper]

Try going to the properties of the game files and the tavern.exe whatever . Set it to administrator

[west wadi]

yes it is not short

[stoic ridge]

Kiting is much harder now with the ms changes. They are good changes, they just have made caster lock much weaker. It will continue to show as more and more kitted people are playing.

[west wadi]

sadly
wouldve been funny being a dwarf demon

[paper copper]

Depends on your build. Dark offering smacks

[sinful gull]

ok thx .. 🙁

[west wadi]

Yea I run DO since last wipe and even now its better with buff duration roll range

run hybrid and its kinda free in 1v1s

as long as u manage ur stacks

[paper copper]

Yeah I haven’t ran it too much but one person does in my trio and he evaporates people with DO

[prime herald]

I know the ttk must've been massively hit on warlock with true damage getting nerfed, but so has a lot classes

[west wadi]

ye
COP for 100 damage total and a bolt with 100 dmg

[prime herald]

I know rogue and ranger feel it a good bit

[paper copper]

Armor pen will be the new meta when it comes to rogues and classes that used to depend on true damage

[west wadi]

noticed a lot more weakpoint rogues

[prime herald]

I just looked up dark offering, that seems like a busted double edged sword jfc

[west wadi]

spacing and when to push

[winged echo]

does banshee/spectre drop named items anymore?

[paper copper]

Nailed it. There is so much to it. How well you clear rooms before, during, and after the fight. Your team composition , who rotates , when to attack, when to retreat. Knowing hot zones for PvP . The list keeps going . It’s literally just you spending hours working on your craft

[west wadi]

when u use lament u can get full reset and still have like 35 seconds base of DO

[west wadi]

Artifact Distribution Wipe #8

Fire Colossus: All Axes + Halberd
Lich: Crystal Ball, Crystal Sword, Spellbook, Magic Staff
Warlord: Arming Sword, Falchion, Rapier
Ghost King: Longsword, Stiletto Dagger, Morning Star, Quarterstaff, Zweihander
Bladehand: All Shields
Stingray: Spear, War Maul
Wyvern: All Bows

[daring reef]

lifeleaf for rings of finesse and agi rings is criminal, I keep getting white or blue, barely any greens

[paper copper]

Yeah rogues are definitely picking up on it. I’m just curious with items that had true phy and true mag damage for their base stat what they are switching them to.

[sinful gull]

hours are huge in this .. 500h vs 1k h is usually noticable. Id say spacing but wipe patch simplified spacing alot.

[daring reef]

I remember when I hit 1k hours, I think..

[west wadi]

play whatever u enjoy

[paper copper]

Just play whatever you like

[west wadi]

it doesnt matter too much

[pallid hemlock]

just learn to put your weapons away and instantaneously go maximum move speed the opposite direction if you're losing the fight. there's no momentum or inertia to slow you down. side strafe is as fast as forward movement

[daring reef]

Yeah I mean just do whatever you wanna, don't let people tell you what to play

[sinful gull]

go nuts in your squire kit, just pvp everybody, run at people.. be a dwarf

[daring reef]

All classes are strong if the user is good at the game

[paper copper]

Also don’t worry about people saying oh your class is weak or unusable . Most of them are just yapping

[west wadi]

I mean
maining a niche class works lol
No one expects the sorc to tp on you and start brawlinng

[daring reef]

I have 2.5k hours and I still get those adrenaline shakes when fighting someone as good as me, its great, having a serious battle that could go either way is arguably one of the best feelings in this game

[compact plover]

where does one find mortar?

[west wadi]

skele mage

I main melee sorc?

[daring reef]

I aint seen demonlock in like 2 wipes

[last basin]

i have 5k hours on this game fame `1535 , would aY 1/2 THAT TIME IM AFK IN THE LOBBY LOL

[misty urchin]

no new quests with the patch?!~

[west wadi]

check solos
i see at least 2 demons every crypt run in hr

[daring reef]

Everyone just uses phantomize because being invulnerable to melee attacks is super helpful

[upbeat dawn]

dark and darker listening to the community? oh my god im falling back in love with the game

[sinful gull]

same, and ive never played another game even half that long and still got exited after 1k hours

[paper copper]

Hey new players on a niche class casting random spells is scary sometimes 😂 😭

[sinful gull]

except football manager tbh

[nova jetty]

what mobs drop quarterstaffs?

[paper copper]

Hey if you need a trio or another dou I’m always down to play. Currently at work but can after.

[prime herald]

lament?

[daring reef]

I don't really see many people running lock in solos, Its normally bard, rogue, plate fighter or barb lol

[west wadi]

perk

[prime herald]

I see it now

[daring reef]

Nothing is worse than someone you can't predict because they're just chucking shit at you

[prime herald]

I gotta try this out with a good healer

[paper copper]

All fun and games until you show the new player that he can throw drums that hit for 90-110

[daring reef]

When unique rings come out healers are gonna be so op in comp, rings can roll 4 magic healing base and if uniques can be up to 3x thats 12 magic healing per ring

[odd grove]

a 12mag healing ring is gonna cost an insane amount they wont be everywhere

[paper copper]

Last season they were strong to. Saw a video of back line Druid, back line cleric, and any frontline and they were sweeping

[west wadi]

ah yes
My 62 mag heal LB druid who its effectively immortal with ball equiped

[paper copper]

NA East or West

[sinful gull]

i came from shooters to this now the thought of near-instant projectiles is boring to me... I liked mordhau and slashers but its so monotone compared to DaD even if more skill based. Really nothing like this even if the devs constantly fk things up.

[daring reef]

Reinforced instruments is such a goofy build I used to love running around with a unique lute and hit for 150 to the head

[odd grove]

thats alot of ping

[paper copper]

Dude and you could play that one song to slow their movement speed , hit them with the lute then throw drums. 😂 😭

We can play on your servers no problem

[daring reef]

I've killed a load of people with flute riposte, its never not funny

[sinful gull]

its a good build ive ran it once or twice.. the lute used to be deadly, but the main problem is that allmost every weapon blocks now and drums and lute are the easiest things to parry in the game

[paper copper]

The sound effects Make me die laughing too 😂 half the match was me searching for my instruments

[inner token]

yeah thanks, now i can't enter the game at all :P

[paper copper]

if you haven’t tried spear on fighter it’s parry window is nuts. You will almost always parry . It’s so strong

[paper copper]

My bad Matt 😭

[formal lynx]

Whatever they did here: "Fixed an issue where jumping might not function properly when the inventory detailed view was opened." This has messed up controls on the controller whenever you loot. I now begin looking at the ceiling, can't jump, and buttons are all wonky.

[odd grove]

verify integrity of files if you messed something up

[inner token]

i did that, 8 times...

[formal lynx]

Good idea, ill do that now.

[daring reef]

I played when warzone came out in like 2020, it was pretty aight, I played a shit load of apex too

[paper copper]

I sent you a DM @subtle heart

[daring reef]

Then came the Rust phase, still a good game, love helicopters in that

[proper wind]

Im about to play wipe 😉

[odd grove]

2016 rust was peak

[sinful gull]

ran it with snackstep ranger yeah its nice... Halberd & doubleX are my favorites so far.. Halberd has the highest sealing cause it has 2 riposte attacks that are at +25% dmg or so and both get accelerated by shield mastery&counter attack so its just peak parrying but hard to not get stuck

[paper copper]

Haven’t gave halberd a shot yet. Definitely need to try it. If you running warlock does below of corruption amplify it?

[proper wind]

I agree was fun for sure i liked 2020 better tho

[charred veldt]

When we are getting new quests
I really need Squire Halbert

[undone cypress]

how am i suppose to link my account if i cant access my blacksmith launcher anymore

[vapid oyster]

wut

[odd grove]

havent played in a long time but im coming back for the navel update that shit looks good

[sinful gull]

it works on ripostes, but probably not worth cause its hard to hit and the normal Hb attack is kind of easy to parry

[odd grove]

halberd is only enjoyable with good action speed

[paper copper]

Oh gotcha

Yeah just sent it there so you didn’t forget me when and if you decide to dou with me

[tulip jay]

Wow i see they decided to keep normals on max blues. Very smart. Especially with the increased loot. Do the devs not play their own game for like two hours? Feels really bad to loot all these purples and not be able to use them.(play high roller hur durrrr, im so smart) Also, did they learn nothing the last two times they made ruins this big? It STILL IS A BAD IDEA HOLY.

[light valve]

how do i get the spear as a squire weapon

[paper copper]

We will get better together no problem

[paper copper]

Spear is not a squire weapon I don’t think.

[charred veldt]

Yo guys when more quests

[paper copper]

Rumor is tonight

[light valve]

but i could have sworn there was a way to get it as a squire weapon

[sinful gull]

they parrybox of the halberd is allmost unbeatable it will just take people more time to get used to cause you have to turn 90+ degrees in some situation its not intuative cause its diagonal so covering your left leg requires turning left 100 degrees basically.

[paper copper]

Sent you a friend request

[raven raven]

bear traps problem ?

[paper copper]

Last season I ran spear mastery with my ranger and wasn’t able to obtain it through squire . Had to find one or buy a blue one from market

[light valve]

i might be going crazy then idk

[paper copper]

I can play anything. Except sorc haven’t messed around with that class too much.

[paper copper]

Might’ve changed , but idk.

[real lagoon]

when are new quests dropping?

[charred veldt]

I have a stash FULL to the brim with quest items

spectral fabric, 3 stacks of skulls, a whole ass garden, like 250 silver coins, a sh!t ton of ores, 7 stacks of golden teeth, 4 wolf pelts and enough apples and stews to throw a picnic

But no vendors want any of those

[formal lynx]

Transferring accounts to steam is kind of ridiculous. I deleted Blacksmith, downloaded on steam, only to get a popup that says I need a code from blacksmith. I reloaded Blacksmith and now it won't log in and it just sits there.

[paper copper]

When are you inviting everyone to dinner

[charred veldt]

was considering it

Thing is I'm debating wether or not I should make a coin bag or wait for armorer quest for wolf pelts

Because I know I won't be getting ANY when I need them

Also I'm not sure if I should turn my obsidian into all ingots or all powder because idk what items will be for them

[true light]

killed 13 wraiths for 1 bellow btw

[charred veldt]

only 13?

[true light]

i thought they increased drop rate

[charred veldt]

ah, that must be it

[charred veldt]

they did bro

I got 3 apples on a single game out of 6 slimes

I got 2 bronze scales first game today when yesterday I extinguished half of zwei skeles population wherever I walked

[prime herald]

anyone else find this game unfun solo?

that may just be because I play pve mostly but even in pvp it sounds like it wouldn't be fun

[charred veldt]

I algo got a collar on my first Kaya kill today

Uhhh the inferno dog don't remember the name, the one with an electric collar

so drops are definetly up

[novel silo]

new quests coming soon?

[paper copper]

I like bossing solo a lot.

[nimble prism]

Are the new quests not out yet?

[charred veldt]

nah

[timber imp]

why is the sling listed as a mace? xD

[charred veldt]

someone told me it was rumored to be tonight

but at this point I think they are nerfing my bard again before releasing new quests

[nimble prism]

They should already be out, that’s weird. Maybe tonight tho

[odd grove]

id contact support, they gave me a custom code to migrate after alot of back and forth for an epic account

[novel silo]

probably to make it usable since it's a cleric weapon and it does no damage

[nimble prism]

I mean that’s what the community gets for bashing jollytime with the new move speed in the game. Dummies screwed us bards now

[charred veldt]

still think they should make the golden book not physical

[nimble prism]

Abusing*

[charred veldt]

just make it scale with will and give it instead divine magical damage

[kindred hawk]

guys which is the most op barb build?

[nimble prism]

All of them lol

[charred veldt]

do not answer him

[fresh jungle]

when do new quests release?

[nimble prism]

I can’t believe they didn’t tune whirlwind but gutted disarm

[charred veldt]

he probably got smacked by a disarm fighter and came here for an easy cheese

[kindred hawk]

no omg first time

[nimble prism]

Absolute joke can’t lie

[charred veldt]

this is not lava collosus bro

[coarse portal]

Pve isnt fun lol and doing it solo definitely isn't fun

[charred veldt]

Just use hilt attack on fighter

they don't expect their sh!t to be cancelled, give them barbs a taste of their own medicine with temu achiles strike + silence

[odd grove]

shhh dont talk about that skill or people will catch on

[charred veldt]

mb

[odd grove]

smite dp cleric just falls over and dies when you use it its so funny

[prime herald]

pve is hella fun with my duo for me

[charred veldt]

imagine it's a drunk cleric too

[prime herald]

nice, relaxing slaughtering of mobs

and we're not cracked at the game so there's still challenge

[paper copper]

What time today do you want to do a boss together

[prime herald]

I get on with a few friends after work

so not today lol

[paper copper]

I’m just messing around 😂

PVE is chill though

[still cypress]

These sorc nerfs are... wow. It really has become W key holder's paradise

[prime herald]

who was that guy I was told to watch for boss fight tips?

[odd grove]

probably ryan6daysaweek

[prime herald]

yeah that guy

[gray pawn]

plsease give cleric sword type weapons or make a new paladin class

[prime herald]

I don't think they'll do a paladin, or else cleric would probably get reworked a bit

[silent geyser]

So uh why does my game just keep closing to desktop now

[light sable]

well well boosting quest items but still no ceremonial dagger to this day...

[charred veldt]

what quest is even that for

treasurer?

[light sable]

cokatrice

[charred veldt]

and why would you want to do it

I get the goldsmith ones but

[light sable]

bcs its the only form of progression we have ahah hr done / unique gear done bosses done

[charred veldt]

cokatrice?

[light sable]

no quests

[charred veldt]

what does it unlock? something for squire?

rings?

[light sable]

Don't know just wanna do it xD

[charred veldt]

fair

[light sable]

but i'm still looking for stone mortar that is way more usefull

[charred veldt]

skele mages drop them like crazy now

[light sable]

In the castle or only in crypts ?

[charred veldt]

My bard got gutted for 3 ms but I'll take it

I've only see them in castle, so idk

But it could drop from crypts as far as i know

I got awl on first and second floor

I mean

[light sable]

I got awl and belows from first day but no mortar xD

[charred veldt]

Uhhh bellows?

I was like that until today with the stupid scale

[light sable]

well i'll keep on going for mages then

thanks

btw do you have a interactive map that's up to date ?

[noble flicker]

Can someone tell me where i can find Bellows and Awls?

[odd grove]

bellow - wraith
awl - spear skelly

[noble flicker]

🫡 Thanks

[odd grove]

np

[kind verge]

OMG A WIZARD CHANGE -1 mage power yippie!!!!

[whole grove]

when are we getting new quests? i thought it was a set a week?

[honest cedar]

excellent game design

I'm trying to play rogue. And I am fighting for my life to kill a barb with stealth, crossbow, throwing knives and whatever pathetic move speed I have

• I am 1 tappable and have barely 16+ strength

He calls me pathetic while he presses W and whirlwinds

• if you think the rogue is the problem, YOU'RE the problem with the game

[agile tide]

Rogue WAS a problem, now it gets to suck until a rework to make it viable. They explicitly said this is coming so just wait for it I guess

[wraith sigil]

can u still pull GOLD CHEST from all gold piles?

[sonic maple]

Every patch wiz Nerf

[blazing bane]

anyone know where i can find the black roses?

[patent zodiac]

to every bard that runs in and ninjas my golem ore after I solo it at the last second go F*** yourself all of you XD.

[real lagoon]

found a stack of ultimate rubys before finding a normal dagger this game is regarded

[autumn burrow]

what characters are strong rn?

[quaint timber]

Eww, you're not playing a rogue with a high resourcefulness 👀

You going to bring a lyre and then when you equip it it gives you higher resourcefulness

[sonic maple]

Pve most toxic mode

[lyric plaza]

where are people finding ceremonial dagger (normal) i can find in all other quality just not normal (green)

[sonic maple]

You're looking in wrong place

[elder orbit]

what is the current player count across all platforms for dad?

[sonic maple]

Pve lions head chests

[solid cypress]

1.2m

[real lagoon]

looted cemetery atleast 50 times, is that not one of the best spots?

[elder orbit]

lol im talking like daily

[solid cypress]

Oh, 10.5m just today

Maybe 12m idk game been popping off yk

[sonic maple]

Look 2 messages up or learn the search function

[elder orbit]

im assuming u mean 12,000?

[solid cypress]

12 millian

[elder orbit]

🤣

[lyric plaza]

i checked so many in pve still none just better keep looking then ty for awnser

[solid cypress]

Plus 5 hundred thousund or so

[sonic maple]

It's only in the chest I said

All others are pointless

[solid cypress]

Really it’s probably 20k or less across all, probably like 15kish

[lyric plaza]

yeah i get that and i mean loin head chests i have checked tho on ruin is another map better or ?

[sonic maple]

Water map is best there's 10 around the hole in the center

[narrow peak]

How about that gob merchant silent nerf though

[lyric plaza]

oh damn nice thanks for the shout m8

[manic cliff]

anyone else have this alchemist potion bug?

the lone potion in alchemist shop is flagged as quest item necessary for current quest, but i don't have any quest related to consumables

[west wadi]

whats the drop chance for cursed crown from ghost king?

[manic cliff]

there's a chance

[sonic maple]

Bro wants to rp as a pancake

[random lintel]

bro were hand cannons really good enough to need a nerf? tbh I thought they were kinda weak compared to bows

[dry summit]

can someone hook me up with an awl? i got a scale and a rusty broken sword to trade for it

[narrow oar]

scale?

[dry summit]

bronze scale

[narrow oar]

what do you need the awl for?

[dry summit]

quest

[narrow oar]

how many do you need for it?

[dry summit]

3x

[narrow oar]

ah damn I only have 2

[fleet aspen]

you also need 3 bellows and 3 rubysilver ingots

[narrow oar]

jfc man these quest are brutal

I'm still on ceremonial daggers

[dry summit]

u also need a bronze scale for a quest before

[fleet aspen]

bellows come from wraiths

[dry summit]

if u wanna do that trade still 😄

[narrow oar]

gonna have to pass

[real forge]

Are the weaponsmith quests still not out????

[tulip arch]

I just want horsemans axe for barb but cant cuz of quests 😭

[wise marlin]

Is it so much to ask for a dual wield ability for barb?

[strong pewter]

best way to get gems?

[last garden]

rip disarm

[vagrant knoll]

barnacles me boy

[visual rain]

Just to confirm now is that Disarm only works via parry - so you cant use it while dual weilding OR with a shield out, right? if thats the case....is it longsword only? what else would you use 1 wep for on a fighter and not dw or a shield

[last garden]

almost all weapons can now block / parry so any weapon and yea only on successful parry does it proc

[vagrant knoll]

longsword spear halberd bardiche rapier shortsword cutlass zweihander all have good parry

[last garden]

hence why i said rip disarm becuase i was slashing suckers with it i was using the arming sword because i almost always hit first and then would murder them while would try to run away

i will def still try it before i just assume its broken

[visual rain]

yes, but you cant have a shield with rapier/short sword/cutlass so you're just running around with 1 sword and nothing else for those just to have disarm which feels bad, no? losing all the stats on the 2nd wep or shield to have disarm + still having to get the parry.

and all 2h weps make sense that it works, but overall it just seems like it went from REALLY good, to niche and maybe just bad?

[last garden]

which is why my initial comment still stands lol rip disarm

[strong pewter]

how do i get to those

[last garden]

on maelstrom

[vagrant knoll]

going shieldless loses a bit of stats, but you get +20 movespeed which is huge. And if you can block with your onehander anyways, its just directly better