game-discussion

[deft lintel]

Knowing the current crafting costs, you probably won’t be either

[bitter citrus]

Looks like the right direction. Worth giving it a shot I guess.

[halcyon kite]

I farm lifeleaf every run and mostly only use agi jewelry so I should be good

[gusty remnant]

i got a bloodthirst with +2 additional weapon should i just get chests for it? like at some point near start of trading open

[weary socket]

where do you find stone mortar

[halcyon kite]

1000% or run it in PvE until you feel brave to run it in hr lmao

I ran my bard viola/elven bow kit in PvE until the last day of wipe

[deft lintel]

Skelly mages

[weary socket]

they dont drop do I have to farm them in hr or sum too?

[gusty remnant]

lol yeah i get lag spikes so i never go turbo gear, i like to go purple gemed so theres no risk but also am strong bcuz if i died to lag id be furious

[lean crescent]

No no, you should run some HR ruins in about 30 mins on NA east and come to bridge :D

[gusty remnant]

okay bet

[deft lintel]

I got mine in norms

Also after this patch should be more common methinks

[lofty notch]

W hot fix

[quick monolith]

The bodies of other players that got lucky enough to get them to drop. Thats how I got all mine

[halcyon kite]

Chests look easy to get this wipe though, treasure quest and huntress, you can get at least 3

[quick monolith]

Just kill people and bing bang boom they've got quest items on them for you to take

[halcyon kite]

If you want to store more than 30-40k..

[weary socket]

also when will new quests drop lowk think its cooked they didnt drop atleast weapon smith squire quests

[halcyon kite]

I think the purpose of this wipe is to bring bis gear down in price

So everyone can get it and fight

Seeing a ton of good stuff with multiple +3 rolls

[lean crescent]

lootables are so buffed tho, i think alot of things are gonna be maxed at 50k on market

[gusty remnant]

interesting thoughts fs idk

[gusty remnant]

should i try to sell bloodthirst right at start of trade open or wait a week or something do you think, how much chests you think id get for it

[bitter citrus]

Bard should be an alright main this season right? Especially for farming hot cheeks?

[gusty remnant]

yeah fs

[bitter citrus]

Nice. That song Ms base buff should help.

[light sable]

stone mortar is on mages right ?

[deft lintel]

Later today I think… maybe. Should be a week after season started

[thorn ice]

in my opinion bard has always been top 3 meta picks since launch. thoughts? respecful disagrees?

[gusty remnant]

hopefullyyy

[spiral pier]

did they fuck up blocking? just blocked 5 hits from a barb with a bardiche succsesfully but all hits still hit me

wat

[deft lintel]

Always been like that, if it hits you first, it hits you first. You can still block it afterwards

[gusty remnant]

i mean u can never go wrong with bard its high skill and is always good in a team

[spiral pier]

erhh noo?

[mossy peak]

anyone else getting error trying to turn on the game ?

[quick monolith]

Depends how you're blocking it, but its definitely been a thing

[gusty remnant]

try restarting pc

[deft lintel]

Not sure what you want me to say. It’s always been the case that you can get hit even when blocking

[peak ether]

oh what a surprise...whirlwind barbs everwhere..fuck this game

[light sable]

Guys is stone mortar drop on mages ?

[gusty remnant]

what class u play lol

[deft lintel]

That’s the consensus

[lapis forge]

Has wizard gotten anything new? Spells talents?

[indigo garden]

did the update derp out the religion progress?

[gusty remnant]

new stuff for wiz? haha

[outer grail]

no

[jolly crypt]

they really nerfed wizzard shoes instead of wirlwind?

[gusty remnant]

lmaooo

they shouldve at least done 10-20% damage reduce on whirlwind

at least.. as a barb main

[lapis forge]

🏳️

Then I guess I'm out another season. How are they not bored of barb fighter meta yet it's been like...a year

[gusty remnant]

barb meta for years?? lol

[split basin]

Holy disarm nerf. Rip slayer fighter

[gusty remnant]

slayer fighter was stupid broken before.. its still playable like how it used to be played

[split basin]

I get that for sure, however i think disarm now is just useless

[gusty remnant]

i think its still gonna be very strong for longsword users

[hardy stump]

until you meet a competent fighter

[gusty remnant]

it takes actual skill now which is good

[split basin]

It's not like you have time to activate it just before a strike, you have to telegraph it and all they gotta do is not hit you for 6 seconds/hit somewhere you cant block. I don't think anyone will run it tbh

[gusty remnant]

6 seconds u can get a free hit or two btw

also u can predict whirlwind barb easilly

[opal patrol]

never really ran casters in this game, if u have add weapon dmg on a spellbook does that apply to casting the spells or just book bonks?

[gusty remnant]

bonks

[opal patrol]

what i thought haha, thanks for the quick clarification g

[winged laurel]

@glad thunder why on earth has classes that dont need nerfing get nerfed but you still have healer druid running around with 15 magic healing in green gear making teams physically unkillable are you trying to kill the game that badly

[gusty remnant]

before it was stupid broken before anyways because if u didnt perfectly block a longsword jab u lose fight instantly

or even better u have a adrenaline rush slayer fighter on ur head

[hardy stump]

tell me you never played healer without telling me directly
15 magic heal doesn't do much for druid heals

[brittle zealot]

pretty sure you have to parry for disarm now

[gusty remnant]

thats what the patch notes says👍

[thorn ice]

we really cant Gem our uniques????

[winged laurel]

are you on drugs magic heal does help with druid heals

[split basin]

I agree that it was too strong. I think it was maybe a bit overrated tho, like every fighter i fought had disarm, and all i had to do is back up for 4 sec. Anyway I do think that it makes it more fun having to parry to use it, I'm just acting bias since I don't play fighter/parry lmao

[old tinsel]

see i found a trick for that liv

[hardy stump]

they have 50% scaling for mheal, it helps, but not nearly as much as you think, lifebloom perk alone gives more

[old tinsel]

i pop addrenaline so it looks like im popping disarm, they run away then run back and thats when i pop the actual disarm - worked alot lol

[brittle zealot]

artis should be that good no?

[gusty remnant]

it definitely will be more fun to see parrying to use it, backing up is hard when a slayer fighter just w keys into u till they are right beside u with adrenaline rush lol

[gusty remnant]

lol

[halcyon kite]

Yeah no more disarm for slayers, can’t parry with dual wielding 🫤

[gusty remnant]

🙏

[halcyon kite]

Also no rogue love this patch haha

[old tinsel]

you wouldnt believe how many people fell fori t

[gusty remnant]

i can imagine lol theres a lot of newer/returning players rn

[deep helm]

what a patch, the rework sounds nice for disarm but they not only didnt nerf the perk that needed to be nerfed on barb but nerfed one that didnt need a nerf like wtf

[silk mulch]

Please nerf my wiz more 🙂

[gusty remnant]

lolll ive died to rogue once actually haha i respect him tryna make it viable but tbf i was in boof blues and he was gemmed legendaries and i also killed him with skull rupture..

[old tinsel]

no more jumping over walls on castle rip

[gusty remnant]

they slightly nerfed skull crusher

or splitter

[deep helm]

yea ik, it didnt need it. Wirlwind needed the nerf. Skull Splitter was fine

[gusty remnant]

skull splitter was op..

whirl wind also needed a nerf

[deep helm]

not really

[gusty remnant]

it was i can assure u that

theres a good reason they nerfed it lol

[deep helm]

well now i cant 1 shot monsters with a grey axe

[old tinsel]

its so ez to bait out tho, and even if u dodge 2 swings they are fucked cause of the delay after the 3rd

[weary crystal]

whats the best class to start now after 2 year pause?

[gusty remnant]

yeahhh thats another reason i feel whirlwind doesnt need too much of a nerf

other than maybe 10% damage

[deep helm]

fighter

[gusty remnant]

nerf

[old tinsel]

whirlwind is fine lol, only noobs think its broken

[deep helm]

just parry it lol

[brave jolt]

does anyone know if the drop rates for bellows, awls and things like enchanted dark fabric are better now? they were abysmal, really.

[gusty remnant]

i mean i wouldnt say its not broken rn. i can hit ppl around shields... in doorways around shields... hit ppl three times in the time they hit me twice

[fervent crescent]

Is there a pattern for the fire colossum when he lauched his fireballs in phase 3 to dodge them?

[deep helm]

duck

[flat juniper]

You know what else is fine, 100 dmg bardiche riposte

[old tinsel]

i mean if they aim head level you just duck it, if not their just bodyshotting

[gusty remnant]

mad cuz u predictable lol

[forest wagon]

@zinc sparrow Why are we buffing francisca axe damage? Taking 10-20% of my hp from a common throwable is fair?

[old tinsel]

and massive delay after the 3rd where u can all in them

[mild topaz]

Hey guys can someone tell in a couple of words about a state of the game? And what's the best way to play rogue at the moment?

[deep helm]

bc barb needs range, we lose to every single range class in the game

[gusty remnant]

yess thats a con to the skill fs but u likely wont be close enough to them to do that because they were just spinnning

[gusty remnant]

preach

[deep helm]

absolutely terrible, i would just run

[fervent crescent]

im gonna try then but i already try to crouch some times and get hs one tap

[mild topaz]

why?

[forest wagon]

umm.... Are we fr right now

[gusty remnant]

best way to say is dont run rogue lol

no more true physical damage

[deep helm]

yea i am FR rn. Barb isnt worth anything if u r 5m or farther

[mild topaz]

I see, thanks

[gusty remnant]

adapt to fidget spinner barb fr

[deep helm]

devs still dont listen too well to community and make terrible decisions based on throw a dart at a dart board

[old tinsel]

this wipe u just have to run hide rogue with high strength and weakpoint

[mild topaz]

what's that?

[gusty remnant]

whirlwind skill is just meta rn

[deep helm]

u also have lost all rights to speak having ur ttv in ur name too. You are a wizard too so just fireball barbarian and u win. Like if ur losing to barb u r the problem bc u r letting him get too close

[kindred stump]

They are trying their hardest to kill this game 💀

[gusty remnant]

will there be arena rewards? i see there are question marks as though there might be??

[gusty remnant]

low skill ppl when they cant use disarm on slayer fighter anymore

[compact plover]

anyone know what drops apple and stew and where the abandon sanctuary module is?

[deep helm]

no no rephrase that, they are trying their best to finish it off. It is already dead

[kindred stump]

Agreed

[kindred stump]

Lol

[deep helm]

zombie for stew, apple on ruins ground

[weak ravine]

armory specifically drop the ramp and there is one

[hearty rampart]

Why does trap mastery not work?

[deep helm]

i would go Keep and on the table can be 1 or 2 like 90% of th time

[gusty remnant]

this fr

[weak ravine]

100% here at least the 10 or so times i have gone.

[deep helm]

here me out, FIRE SDF and blacklist him from all gaming companies

[weak ravine]

thats kinda rough dont you think?

[forest wagon]

??? what are we saying rn

[deep helm]

sh no speak for u

[gusty remnant]

bro u think barbs shouldnt get a franny axe buff lol

[deep helm]

not even close enough, we could go all 1900s french on him

[forest wagon]

yeah w ragebait

[icy cliff]

can yall load into HR? i cant for shit, got 4 min load times that lead to nothin'

[gusty remnant]

dont be brazillian bro

[left smelt]

how is Dark and Darker nowadays? I didn't play since they introduced the water map (did people like the map? I was confused...)

[weak ravine]

that's a wild take.

[gusty remnant]

i think the game is okay if you like the genre but u gotta really like it lol. water map was okay loot is good and pvp will always feel clunky

womp womp

[weak ravine]

thats a solid take

[deep helm]

its the correct take

[halcyon sleet]

What’s the best class now since disarm nerf

[gusty remnant]

fighter and barb

and sorc

[halcyon sleet]

Slayer fighter is ass now no???

[gusty remnant]

slayer fighter is back to what it used to be now

[coral berry]

Never has been

[gusty remnant]

its not got the broken ass skill

longsword fighter with disarm is still gonna be strong

[weary socket]

disarm is just stupid broken

[gusty remnant]

yeah

[coral berry]

Was

[compact plover]

anyone know where abandoned sanctuary is?

[weary socket]

slayer fighter I still feel like is super strong with gear

[gusty remnant]

google will show u an image of it

[compact plover]

i did its not on the interactive map

[halcyon sleet]

Did they fix whirlwind going through doors

[toxic widget]

Relatively even stronger when in squire compared to other squire classes

[gusty remnant]

look at images after looking up where it is

[compact plover]

i did

[gusty remnant]

yes fs and is definitely strong still geared in solo

[toxic widget]

Only thing is once you’re geared I think ranger is just better

I love slayer but ranger outclasses it imo

[halcyon sleet]

What skills should slayer use now

[lime pine]

Was shield slam buffed? I swear it wasn't 6 second cooldown before

[weary socket]

true

[weary socket]

adrenaline and flag I say

[gusty remnant]

im not sure i think adrenaline rush and something

[halcyon sleet]

That’s what I was thinking

[toxic widget]

I always ran victory strike and adrenaline, all gas no brakes

[halcyon sleet]

I’ll give it a shot

[halcyon kite]

Yeah victory strike is actually insane

[gusty remnant]

yeah i can see that

[weary socket]

thats also pretty solid

[signal echo]

so still no balance for the rogue and wizard being completely unusable as solos ?

[weary socket]

lowk dont need adrenaline since pieces can get some pretty high action speed on gear

[gusty remnant]

victory strike and sprint halberd fighter will always have my heart

[halcyon sleet]

Good f rouge

[toxic widget]

Victory strike technically even better now since you’re building phys power and additional damage instead of true

[weary socket]

what perks do you guys use

[lime pine]

They don't balance things around solos

[signal echo]

well rogue is also really bad on trios rn

[weary socket]

Used to build addition in past but lowk everyone is forced into my meta now

[lime pine]

That's fair

[toxic widget]

Based

[atomic raptor]

w patch honestly, balanced the giga strong disarm nicely, harder to find wood, better loot on boss, people should fight over boss loot not run around farming wood

[weary socket]

rogue is crying for the overhaul rn lmao

[halcyon kite]

Rogue is manageable. You need to stack vig, str and the add phys damage. Don’t focus on agi, get some decent action speed, use your perks to your advantage. Aim for no less than 130 hp.

[gusty remnant]

rogue isnt allat bad in trios when geared because ppl dont have max health bonuses anymore.. it still does its job of one shotting squishys

[charred veldt]

So... Are there new quests?

[gusty remnant]

and like sneaking and doing a ton of damage

[gusty remnant]

possibly later

[weary socket]

yep agi isnt the big trend anymore since everyone is dirt slow

[charred veldt]

🙁

[weary socket]

definitely later today when daily quests refresh

[gusty remnant]

me too bro

[split basin]

I need to go learn how to kill bosses lol, I'm tired of having one to myself and not killing it

[stoic ridge]

Disarm nerf makes sense, but until they extend the duration its a dead skill

[gusty remnant]

oh okay good to know

[charred veldt]

not really

[halcyon kite]

Just getting 100% then with ambush proc it’s fine for pushing or escaping

[weary socket]

if they dont drop new quests this game is selling (they shouldve have weaponsmith squire gear quest off rip lowk only hurts newer players enjoying game)

[split basin]

Exactly, I feel like since its a parry it should be much longer!

[charred veldt]

Just pop it when you are getting really close and start hitting

[stoic ridge]

You just dont attack for 6 seconds and its useless

[gusty remnant]

yeah im annoyed i cant have bardiche in squire kit lol

[charred veldt]

They'll think twice before hitting you

You can still get free hits

[halcyon kite]

Until later lol

[weary socket]

ong rogue has to 100% play as rogue now unlike past where they lowk was just a slightly sneaky fighter

[lime pine]

Any idea what treasures are needed for later quests?

[gusty remnant]

6 seconds you can get a free hit or two in btw

[stoic ridge]

Does it not go away if you hit?

[gusty remnant]

or they can get a hit in on you

[stoic ridge]

Like it doesnt get rid of the proc? If not then it is still good

[weary socket]

I dont think so now just gotta avoid hitting their blocks and all

[halcyon kite]

Still think we should get a shadow strike, just poof behind a target and stab stab stab, hit it again to return to where you were.

[gusty remnant]

i doubt it would go away if you hit

[weary socket]

so solid but not as broken now

[halcyon crown]

Goodbye disarm bs

[signal echo]

I still can't figure out if I should play rupture + weakpoint rogue or go with the shitty ambush + invis as a solo

[gusty remnant]

[gusty remnant]

and good riddance

[weary socket]

honestly I feel like backstep they might add a direaction dash like forward for gap closing since that sounds lil strong

[gusty remnant]

solo rogue isnt it

[hasty creek]

if banshee room is great hall a which is greathall c?

[weary socket]

only choice is ruptrure invis rogue

[halcyon kite]

Solo rogue to demigod was super easy lol

[stoic ridge]

It is if you go ice cavern and hunt warlocks

[weary socket]

though rogues are dinner for me since I love going one tap slayer fighter

[gusty remnant]

wait wordddd i didnt think of that lmao

[signal echo]

yeah that's what I was thinking, it's one of the only classes I enjoy playhing as a solo sooo

[stoic ridge]

Thats where im getting all my bossing lock kits lol. I go hunt them on ice caverns

[eternal vigil]

so we gutted disarm (def needed it) but left barb the king on the throne? no hwirlwind nerf? clasic sdf

[gusty remnant]

xd

[halcyon kite]

I play my rogue as a begger, pick pocket, no weapons, just my charisma and sneakiness.

[weary socket]

Its gonna be in tough spot like wizard until they overhaul it. Which they said ranger and rogue should get it this season. Idk if its before end of this month but they are also trying to get workshop working before next month.

[halcyon kite]

😂

[lime pine]

Am I tripping, or is the green necklace of peace constantly shifting from 1 health to 2, and back to 1?

[gusty remnant]

whirlwind could use like a 10% damage reduction or something but its not incredibly op.. nowhere near disarm

[halcyon kite]

Anyone know if they stealth nerfed the sell price of wood??

[weary socket]

I havent had much problems facing whirlwind

[signal echo]

yea it's easy and fun for pve but if you get face to face with a fighter or barb, you're either cooked or just run, or the guy is really bad and you have a chance but well newbs are getting rarer in solo lobbies

[atomic raptor]

same sell price, harder to find purple imo

[gusty remnant]

i just be fighting other whirlwind barbs and its fun. the problem was disarm fighters

[signal echo]

yeha would be great cuz these two classes just don't have enough interesting passives and skills like other classes

[weary socket]

disarm was a problem for everyone

[gusty remnant]

definitely

[cunning canopy]

Where do you find awl and bellows?

[halcyon kite]

IF they did stealth nerf the sell price for wood, the woodcutters union (blue sash gang) will be going on strike and we will demand fair and equal wages. We can’t compete with those short ahhh dwarves who are taking our jobs left and right.

[gusty remnant]

bellows from wraith awl from spearmen skeles

[weary socket]

I feel like that why they did overhauls on them first since they are most straight forward beginner classes. But at same time hurts me since they are hurting the other classes outside sorc with their strength. I def feel like we are possibly moving in a better direction for the game but 100% needs all the other classes to receive similar overhauls for it to be great.

[elder orbit]

How are we feeling about DAD? It’s been a while.

[halcyon kite]

You can load into a game, cut trees, take a permanent static blue and make 1500 gold in less than 10 mins. Come on back, it’s fun.

[gusty remnant]

same bs game with ppl always complaining but i feel like sdf may be able to come back

[weary socket]

Ive been enjoying it only issue is they dont have all squire quests out and ssf. We should have quests for all squire gear by today tho.

[coral gazelle]

new quest when?

[sinful gull]

The red gate campers union(red sash gang) fully supports your endeavour!

[gusty remnant]

i have been geuninely enjoying it too besides the disarm skill lmao which its gone

[kindred stump]

They're doing a lot of questionable shit

[gusty remnant]

😆

[weary socket]

hopefully when the daily quests reset so bit later today

[coral gazelle]

10h

[halcyon kite]

When you miss a layup, do you give up? Or do you try again until you make it?

[kindred stump]

I shoot a 3

[gusty remnant]

[halcyon kite]

Bingo.

[kindred stump]

SDF is not shooting 3's

[gusty remnant]

i mean they are doing well rn

[weary socket]

At moment some stuff is odd but general direaction seems bit better

[deep helm]

yea but this is like down 40-80 with a minute left in the game and ur missing unguarded layups

[halcyon kite]

This patch was a free throw, but he is getting there, the whole dev team seems to be on the same page and moving in the right direction.

[cunning canopy]

Yooo thats fun to you?

[kindred stump]

Overall state of the game I'm not complaing but there will ALWAYS be balancing issues

[cunning canopy]

Ty sir

[halcyon kite]

Only to get all my stash spaces and bags to hold 40k lol

[gusty remnant]

especially when they implement new skills

[deep helm]

gug gug gug gug gug, come up for air my dude. His stuff dont taste that good nor do it smell good

[rich cargo]

There's always balancing issues with every game tho

Like ow marvel r6 ects

[halcyon kite]

Bro missed the point, thinking about his fantasy with sdf

[deep helm]

id rather castrate him

[kindred stump]

Certain games do it right though. I don't feel fucking useless in Marvel Rivals

[fair geode]

Guys what is the most played class right now ?

[gusty remnant]

lol

[kindred stump]

Fighter/Barb?

[rich cargo]

That's because if they underpower a character nobody's going to pick them and their statistical analysis of that hero determining what they can do to implement it in their game would be quite literally useless. So that's why they have to overpower everything so that people would actually want to use it incentivizing the use of that ability so that they could get statistics off of it

[gusty remnant]

fighter barb sorc

[deep helm]

the point is he sucks as a dev and has killed a game with 0 competition that also is extremely unique

[halcyon kite]

You sure think about him a lot. Maybe message him and let him know how wildly obsessed you are.

[fair geode]

Third is bard right ?

[weary socket]

barb or fighter for solos. duos and trios I see bit more of every class.

[gusty remnant]

and bard

[deep helm]

if i message him its a death threat

[fair geode]

Third class most played is bard ?

[gusty remnant]

bard or sorc

[cursive sparrow]

no shot whirwind doesnt get touched but disarm gets thrown in the garbage

[fair geode]

Mm ok , i wonder why in solos there are no rangers

[halcyon kite]

A death threat from Michael Myers, original.

Did you come up with that one all by yourself?

[gusty remnant]

disarm is far worse then whirlwind lol

[deep helm]

r u stupid or stupid?

[fair geode]

Or cleric with pdr and smite ,

[cursive sparrow]

so we're nerfing fighter but sucking barb

[gusty remnant]

nah bro

[cursive sparrow]

what is this

[weary socket]

Ive seen some but 100% needs gear for it to work. We will see more once it gets overhauled with rogue later this season.

[gusty remnant]

barb isnt all that op.. disarm fighter was stupidly broken

also disarm is still usable and is still quite good

[weary socket]

disarm was too broken. And barbs grapple was lowk trash.

[deep helm]

ah right nvm ur a "retired" mod for this discrod XD XD XD god damn how actually sad do u have to be, to be a retired discord mod

[cursive sparrow]

whirlwind is just as broken as disarm what LOIL

[halcyon kite]

I feel like I always see rangers in Hell, idk why they just run straight to reds 🤣

[gusty remnant]

whirlwind is defitinely not as op

[kindred stump]

Do the Devs explain their decisions or just leave us to ponder

[weary socket]

100% not I can deal with whirlwind most times but disarm is just cringe

[rich cargo]

Disarm got fixed no offense if you get parried within 6 seconds of them popping their disarm then it is what it is you got outplayed

[lime pine]

SDF do, he explains too much, and it's more confusing than if he doesn't

[cursive sparrow]

how u need to run away from disarm and u need to run away from whirlwind this change is stupid ur gonna nerf one nerf both

[kindred stump]

Why does he hate Sorc so much

[charred veldt]

Still an issue for a particular build

[weary socket]

My only issue with whirlwind is that it shouldnt do dmg through most blocks

[cursive sparrow]

so disaRm takes skill but whirlwind still is 0 skill

[gusty remnant]

whirlwind could use maybe a 10-20% damage nerf just because u can hit around doorways and hit quickly but its easy to block.. you still will get destroyed by disarm fighters

[charred veldt]

Try to run it down with a rapier on fighter

[rich cargo]

Yes for a particular build

[halcyon kite]

Actually bub, I’m around the 200th person to join this discord when it was made, of course I volunteered to be a warden for over two years. So what? What have you done for this community aside from voice your “opinion” and talk shit about the devs?

[charred veldt]

You can get 6 hits in withing the duration

[rich cargo]

I mean whirlwind can be skillful depending on how you look at it

[cursive sparrow]

no whirwind is never skillful u dweeb

[sinful gull]

i said the same thing a hour ago .. my first thought was rapier fighter when i read the patch 😄

[cursive sparrow]

are u brainless

[gusty remnant]

mfs using slayer fighter and disarm talking about skill lol

[rich cargo]

Somebody using it recklessly versus using it correctly are two different things

[mild topaz]

no more solos?

[cursive sparrow]

both disarm and whirwind were no skill but now its just whirlwind thats no skill ts is so bad

[gusty remnant]

whirlwind isnt that good

[halcyon kite]

Buddy the only place to use it is standing in front of a red portal lol since it goes through walls

[rich cargo]

You can give somebody that has 0 hours on fighter and somebody with 300 hours on fighter, and just because they have the same kit does not mean they will fight the exact same. The person that doesn't have as much skill is probably going to use their whirlwind. Recklessly realistically

[cursive sparrow]

@gusty remnant lol okay buddy YOU LITERALLY PLAY BARB SYBAUY

[gusty remnant]

they also nerfed skull splitter btw which was a big problem

[cursive sparrow]

BY 6 DMG

[deep helm]

been here since playtest like 1 or 2, paid for legendary. Actually cared about it back in the day. All i do now is collect ore to jew the market when it releases. Volunteered oh god even worse. Ive only talked shit about 1 dev bc the 1 dev needs to be blacklisted from all gaming companies for what he has done to this game

[gusty remnant]

i main barb so i know exactly

[cursive sparrow]

BUT THEY THROW DISARM IN THE GARBAGE

[gusty remnant]

8

[cursive sparrow]

bro whirlwind is no skill and is op stop coping ur bad

[gusty remnant]

disarm isnt in the garbage its still gonne be strong for people who actually have skill in the game

[cursive sparrow]

i dont even play fighter or barb and this nerf is stupid

[reef onyx]

11k in game players. I expected more this wipe, like 15k min. Guess it's enough to keep the game alive though.

[gusty remnant]

saying disarm is in the garbage is the biggest cope ive heard

[cursive sparrow]

no its in the garbage bro half the plaYers caNt parry in this game

[deep helm]

the fighter main is big upset he got nerfed a tiny bit but is still an S+ Tier class

[cursive sparrow]

I main bard

[gusty remnant]

skill issue LMAO

[deep helm]

please please please say ur PFP is actually you

[gusty remnant]

actual skillful players are gonna get very good use out of disarm still

[halcyon kite]

Saying you want to kill the lead dev of a game you love so much, classic psychotic behavior. I think you have a deep crush on him. Clearly sdf lives rent free in your head, but to each their own, back to gameplay discussion. Thanks for the chat.

[cursive sparrow]

look at ur pfp u dweeb

i have an abyssal trident u think i care about sdf's balance changes lol

but how do u throw disarm in the garbage and leave whirwind untouched

[halcyon kite]

I have a tempest bp to trade

[cursive sparrow]

are we deadahh

[halcyon kite]

Wrong chat lol

[gusty remnant]

congrats bro.. i too have an artifact that doesnt tell me anything about you besides ur coping rn

[cursive sparrow]

let me see ur artifact buddy ts ahh

and u play barbarian so ur opinion isnt valid

[gusty remnant]

bloodthirst +2 additional weapon

[cursive sparrow]

main^ barbarian

let me see it

[deep helm]

i dont love this game, I actually hate it now. It used to be good but after the barb buff and week later nerf I quit. That was also during the time they kept buffing and refusing to nerf magic boys who ran lobbies.

[gusty remnant]

ur complaining about a skill thats completely braindead being nerfed btw

[cursive sparrow]

no im complaining that 1 braindead skill got nerfed and the other one is just chilling

[gusty remnant]

why lol is ur ego gonna get hurt when i show it

[cursive sparrow]

but keep coping when barb gets nerfed ur gonna go back to rogue u rat

[deep helm]

u r the spitting image of a reddit and discord mod and u want to talk shit abt a sexy king k rool?

[deep helm]

barb for life even when he was bottom 2

[cursive sparrow]

show it @gusty remnant

[gusty remnant]

ive mained barb since pretests btw

[gusty remnant]

why lol

[deep helm]

omg same, ik i liked u

[cursive sparrow]

i mean mine is in dnd fan art im not shy

crazy how everyone been maining barb since pretests now right

[gusty remnant]

im not shy lol i just dont feel the need to ego check someone whos sobbing rn

[gusty remnant]

ive genuinely been maining barb since pretest..

[deep helm]

i have been dont lump me in with pretenders

[cursive sparrow]

LOL

yall are both the reason this gaMe is trash 2 barbs arguing whirlwind is more skill then disarm

I CANT

[deep helm]

i dont argue that

[gusty remnant]

well i sent it are u happy now

[cursive sparrow]

I canttttt

[gusty remnant]

i sent u the blood thirst

[deep helm]

i am a pve barb who runs no busted shit

[quick reef]

Lmao, change back disarm. It was incredibly well balanced already. Balance things around it silly barbs

[gusty remnant]

whirlwind is undeniably more skill then disarm before this change lol

[sour verge]

why the helly does squire not have any more weapons after doing all the weaponsmith quests

[cursive sparrow]

no its not theyre both equally no skill

[gusty remnant]

equally is a big cope holy

[deep helm]

u and @cursive sparrow can both suck a bag of nickles, disarm was incredibely unfair and now that it is balanced u both r whinning harder than babies

[cursive sparrow]

its not oh this skill is alittle more skill then the other theyre both EQUALLY NO SKILL its both press q

[hasty creek]

I'm losing my mind why do non of the online guides show where greahall c is?

[deep helm]

one if u miss there was no consequence, the other if u miss u r wide open. Take a guess on which is which

[gusty remnant]

equally lol holy cope

[cursive sparrow]

u keep saying the same shi bro IM MAD THAT DISARM IS NERFED CRAZY BUT WHIRWIND ISNT TOUCHED

[gusty remnant]

whirlwind was somewhat nerfed because skull splitter damage was reduced

[deep helm]

go ahead and guess which is which lil bro

[cursive sparrow]

u cant miss whirlwind unless u suck someone can run away from it forsure but someone can run away from disarm too

[gusty remnant]

that reduces damage

[hasty creek]

HEEELP\

[gusty remnant]

keep coping bro

[deep helm]

yet if u do or it is parried u r wide ass open, while if u miss disarm it doesnt matter just que up another and go again

[cursive sparrow]

yall are the cope gods

[deep helm]

i dont even use wirlwind

[coral berry]

Disarm is now fair and rewards you for good play

[cursive sparrow]

i cant yall are like trump supporters bro

[deep helm]

my skills havent changed since day 1 except to add skull splitter for pve

oh god he is a liberal too

[gusty remnant]

keep coping lmao im liberal

[unreal obsidian]

@coral berry disarm is now practically uselesss. you have to proc the skill, and parry with 6 seconds just get one extra hit on someone.

[cursive sparrow]

mf telling me whirwind takes more skill then disarm when they're both timmy perks that use 0 skill

[deep helm]

i didnt think this smoke kid could be any worse

[quick reef]

Disarm was always fair, y'all just W key and whirlwind. Play it like a chess match and maybe you can bait out a disarm.

[gusty remnant]

😆

[deep helm]

liberal reddit mod

[gusty remnant]

saying their equally no skill is such cope

[cursive sparrow]

notice how ur the only 2 saying this change was good

[deep helm]

dont u have a kitten or underage girl to go talk to?

[coral berry]

Sure its harder to use , but not useless. The anterior version was just absurd

[gusty remnant]

notice how were the only three in this chat

[cursive sparrow]

were not tho

[deep helm]

kind of r

[cursive sparrow]

theres 5 ppl here bro

[deep helm]

not really any others have joined our conversation

[gusty remnant]

okay?

[deep helm]

they say a line then dip, its been us 3 consistently

[unreal obsidian]

It's not just harder to use.. It's not worth taking the perk.

[deep helm]

so ur telling me a parry skill, takes skill now?

[sharp panther]

barb has never been below A tier yet still gets buffs and gamechanging abilitys

[cursive sparrow]

either way theres ntg to say to you guysd yall are brainless barbarians

[quick reef]

No wrinkles in ur brain fs

[cursive sparrow]

yall mad u cant parry for shi

[deep helm]

wirlwind needs a nerf, i wont disagree but it also can be parried and blocked

[cursive sparrow]

by a heater shield bro

[quick reef]

Big Smoke not right about everything, but he right about disarm not needing the nerf

[cursive sparrow]

3 classes run that

[deep helm]

go back to talking to underage girls already like holy balls man

[gusty remnant]

your mad a skill that was even by the owner of the game said was op and not intended to be used in that way, was nerfed

[cursive sparrow]

i never said disarm didnt need a nerf but if ur gonna nerf one u nerf both bro thats common sense

[gusty remnant]

hows that common sense lol

[cursive sparrow]

im mad that they didnt nerf both ive said this atleast 10 times now

i dont even play fighter AGAIN

[gusty remnant]

ur mad u cant block or bait out a whirlwind

[deep helm]

someone is still mad that barb is a viable character, not that a skill wasnt nerfed

[cursive sparrow]

what lol

[gusty remnant]

its not op

[cursive sparrow]

barb is still dogshi

[deep helm]

why is fighter ur role in discord then

[cursive sparrow]

cuz i played him in season 3

[gusty remnant]

cope lmao

[cursive sparrow]

what cope?

[deep helm]

then switch it out or ppl gonna keep calling u a fighter main u kid didler

[cursive sparrow]

why u think yall got nerfed and fighter didnt worst class in game easily

[quick reef]

Remember, someone who accuses others of talking to underage girls, is probably talking to underage girls in their free time

[cursive sparrow]

i meant fighter nerf and not barb

[deep helm]

fighter is S tier as shit

[hasty creek]

U seem smart where's greathall 3 pls

[cursive sparrow]

barb is s tier trash lol

[deep helm]

fighter has always been S tier as shit

[cursive sparrow]

all ur new perks are soo bad

[tight rose]

So what I’m hearing is back to adrenaline instead of disarm for my slayer fighter?

[cursive sparrow]

its actually funny

[gusty remnant]

cope lmao

[cursive sparrow]

what cope

[deep helm]

im still confused on why lil bro is talking still

[gusty remnant]

idk bro

[deep helm]

i thought he had discord kitten or underage girls to go talk to

[hasty creek]

at least tell me which website u find this out in

[cursive sparrow]

u said this 5 times already bro u not funny lol\

[gusty remnant]

what website

[gusty remnant]

just tryna insult people to feed ur ego rn

[hasty creek]

I'm gonna make an lfg and see if somebody can help me

[deep helm]

not trynna be funny, just letting everyone know ur truth

[rustic yarrow]

no new quests?

[gusty remnant]

possibly in like 10hrs

[cursive sparrow]

how hes claiming i talk to underage girls lol

[rustic yarrow]

-.-

[cursive sparrow]

and ur gonna say insult to feed my ego

[rustic yarrow]

ty

[gusty remnant]

u probably do

[cursive sparrow]

ill get him banned rn

lol'

[deep helm]

bro take one look at u and tell me u dont

[quick reef]

You'd think Michael Myers would be better at ragebaiting

[gusty remnant]

u hate him that much u gonna take effort outta ur day to do that

[cursive sparrow]

i swear

[gusty remnant]

or try

[quick reef]

Weak ass K Rool pic

[deep helm]

just means im right

[cursive sparrow]

and his bf purezyz two barb mains who have shexe

[deep helm]

just say sax

[cursive sparrow]

i need a moderator rn

[gusty remnant]

BAHAHAHAHA

[cursive sparrow]

im getting michael banned

[deep helm]

rnt u a reddit mod?

[quick reef]

Lmao, mods will probably offer to blow Mikey moo

[cursive sparrow]

bros sitting here saying i talk to underage girls like thats okay

[deep helm]

u dont?

shit my bad

[quick reef]

Mikey Moo a predator, look it up

[cursive sparrow]

keep in mind he plays marvel rivals HE actually touches kids

[deep helm]

i play a lot of games

[quick reef]

Prolly bald

[cursive sparrow]

inclujding marvel rivals

[quick reef]

When was last shower?

[gusty remnant]

whats this gotta do with anything? are u just gonna make weak insults to feed ur ego or move on

[deep helm]

HokageChef on steam look me up

[cursive sparrow]

and HD POKER

AHAHAHHAAH

[agile tide]

Chat is extra restarted this morning I see

[deep helm]

no ong ong fr fr it is

[deep helm]

oh wait i can get u banned too lets go ez dubs

[cursive sparrow]

this guy michael myers liistens to ed sheran regrets and he mains barb

[deep helm]

i love barb

[cursive sparrow]

i can tell his wife left

took the kids

[deep helm]

i love my ginger brother, never married

u r really like 0/3 rn

[gusty remnant]

i mean im tryna genuinely talk to ppl about the game and this guy just out hear insulting random guys

[deep helm]

wanna try again?

[cursive sparrow]

look his bf is typing keep in mine no ones talking to him

[gusty remnant]

[deep helm]

idk purez

he aint my duo, my duo is a healing cleric

[gusty remnant]

that one was funny

[deep helm]

who aint even up yet

[cursive sparrow]

i didnt say duo I SAID BF LOL

[indigo vortex]

What the sorc nerfs whyyy

[deep helm]

and i said idk purez, i just met the guy lol

man u r bad at insulting others

[gusty remnant]

sorc is op

[cursive sparrow]

Nah thaTs ur secret lover bro

[gusty remnant]

r u gonna just keep insulting or move on bro

[cursive sparrow]

nah yall mad sus

[indigo vortex]

Sorc ain’t shit now though lol

[deep helm]

that ur only insult and calling ppl bfs

[gusty remnant]

its still usable fs

[subtle dagger]

did they increase the chance of named weapons?

[deep helm]

i thought a liberal reddit mod would be ok with lgbabcedg stuff

[cursive sparrow]

bro ur a reddit mod u play marvel rivals

[deep helm]

i dont even have a reddit

[gusty remnant]

i think theres like 1 in 26 or something with ghost king hr if that helps

[deep helm]

mine was perm banned for talking too much shit

[cursive sparrow]

u play marvel rivals tho

[indigo vortex]

I mean yes but windstorm and vortex increased a whole tier and cooldown increased won’t have spells till you get hella knowledge

[elder orbit]

no bias. Top 3 characters to play as?

[deep helm]

i got banned from too many lgbabcedfg subreddits and then perm banned from reddit for talking too much shit

[gusty remnant]

i mean ur out here insulting random guys on a discord and tryna cope your own emotions through insulting so you look like a reddit mod

[deep helm]

so u r what like 0/10 rn on things abt me

[subtle dagger]

@gusty remnant I kust got a nip first try on wyvern. did i just get lucky?

[gusty remnant]

barb fighter and sorc or bard

[gusty remnant]

im not sure what the odds are but yeah thats definitely lucky

[indigo vortex]

I don’t use spell stride so that’s chill but nerfing the knockback too mofuckas gonna be riding my shit still hard enough to kite with movement debuffs

[cursive sparrow]

lol yall insulted me first @gusty remnant worst part is yall ganging on me doesnt even matter tho cuz yall both no skill brainless barbs in their 30's =

[quick reef]

Time to get to the job that makes me moneyssss. Y'all all have a lovely day ❤️. Except Mikey Moo. Eat ceramic shards you fuck.

[gusty remnant]

holy cope

[deep helm]

Lil Smoke bro u need to like stop typing and really think abt an insult for once bc man u rnt doing it. I got u so good earlier u wanted mods to ban me but idc abt banning u bc u havent gotten me yet and wont

[cursive sparrow]

howd u get me by saying i talk to underage girls? bro ur weird for even saying that

[deep helm]

not even 25 yet

[cursive sparrow]

im not even 21 ur an unc

[deep helm]

0/11

[cursive sparrow]

old af get a job

[deep helm]

didnt say i was over 21 either

[gusty remnant]

are u gonna just sit here and insult or are u gonna move on

[deep helm]

all uk i am 17

[cursive sparrow]

get a wife get kids lol

no yall wanted to gang up on me

yall both no skill brainless barbs

[deep helm]

bc u r actually restarted

[gusty remnant]

how are we ganging up on you your insulting us

[cursive sparrow]

no u lol

[deep helm]

i have a higher iq than u and ik that for a fact

[cursive sparrow]

sitting here telling me whirlwind takes skill LOL

u never finished hs bro

[gusty remnant]

its more skill then what disarm was

[deep helm]

did

[cursive sparrow]

no its not

[gusty remnant]

cope

[deep helm]

im in the late 120s

[cursive sparrow]

both are no skill thers no scale of no skill lol

[deep helm]

where is ur iq lil bro

[gusty remnant]

[sinful prawn]

you don't have to get got because you get yourself you type like an idioot

[cursive sparrow]

i mean u can tell both of these guys are losers in the mid 20's

[deep helm]

idgaf abt how i type lol

[cursive sparrow]

and have nothing better to do

[deep helm]

day off from work so why not ragebait a reddit mod

[gusty remnant]

bro your sitting here insulting random people and ego feeding ur self

[sinful prawn]

it's okay, present yourself as someone with downs, who cares right

[cursive sparrow]

yall inmsulted me first tho

and yall teamed up on me

[deep helm]

hell yes man, do u not realize ppl with downs r the happiest ppl on earth?

[gusty remnant]

okay, thats not what i did. move on

[deep helm]

bc ur in the files

[cursive sparrow]

nah yall did

its funny cuz irl id beat ts out of yall

[gusty remnant]

thats what u feel i did

[cursive sparrow]

keep talking shi

[gusty remnant]

cope lmao

[spiral totem]

does the goblin merchant change mean he no longer sells rings or necks?

[deep helm]

mods mods he is threatening me irl X DXD XD

[cursive sparrow]

ur fat and in ur mid 20's bro ur life is chalked

[gusty remnant]

yeah

[gusty remnant]

coping

[deep helm]

skinny athlete try again

[cursive sparrow]

@deep helm bro lying so hard lol

[gusty remnant]

he no longer sells rings

[deep helm]

im not

[spiral totem]

wow thats crazy, i guess rings just got even more rare! well dont to the ppl that pulled some decent gobo stuff

[deep helm]

havent lied yet

[cursive sparrow]

athlete that plays marvel rivals stop lying to urself bro u have no life

[gusty remnant]

i kinda like it because killing ppl with jewelry feels more rewarding

[deep helm]

i barely play lol

12 hours in 2 weeks

thats not even an hour a day lol

[gusty remnant]

ur here at 6am in the morning arguing with random kids on a discord bro dont be to proud of yourself now

[cursive sparrow]

ur playing dark and darker at 9 am on a thursday bro ur not an athlete ur a bum

[deep helm]

i have today off from work

[indigo talon]

it's persistently every time i open the game. no restarts help

[deep helm]

practice wouldnt be till later in the day

[zealous wing]

I’m at work moving a full 53’ trailer of mill work by hand and I’m still in here y’all need to learn to multitask

[fringe garnet]

Please remember to remain respectful everyone

[cursive sparrow]

lol ur not an athelete ur a slob on ur moms basement playing barbrian usinga whirlwind ur like that one south park episode of the ppl playing wow

[deep helm]

idk why i am explaining myself to u tho but honestly its fun and funny

[deep helm]

mod mod this guy right here

[wraith grove]

Hello, what is the probability of artifact without luck in norms ?

[gusty remnant]

lmao

[gusty remnant]

0

[wraith grove]

:o

[gusty remnant]

cant get artifact in norms

[wraith grove]

ah bruh x)

[deep helm]

alr we can have a normal conversation now purez

[gusty remnant]

😭

[deep helm]

nvm he is back

[cursive sparrow]

i knew yall were sus

[deep helm]

well before u got here we had a civil conversation abt the update

then u came in throwing baseless acusations about wirlwind and us

[cursive sparrow]

bro he doesnt like u su ur talki8ng to uyrself bro

[deep helm]

then funny enough Big smoke call of the smoke

[gusty remnant]

.

[vagrant fulcrum]

Ahhh yeah, was just about to say that

[deep helm]

oh hell yea another mod

[cursive sparrow]

this guy accused me of talking to underage girls

[vagrant fulcrum]

oh yeah!

[deep helm]

so did u lol

[cursive sparrow]

no i didnt tho

wardens dont do shit its actually funny

this guy was spamming i talk to kids

[deep helm]

u said i touch em lol

[cursive sparrow]

and now ur saying talk respectful

[spiral totem]

did you pull anything good?

[deep helm]

but man i got dungeons to loot

[cursive sparrow]

@vagrant fulcrum this guy was spamming i talk to underage girls but u say that now?

disappear when i talk

[gusty remnant]

wdym? ive killed a lot of ppl with jewelry

[spiral totem]

sry, meant from goblin merchant.

[deep helm]

the jewerly can come from the goldsmith

[gusty remnant]

u werent being respectful either bro are u tryna get urself muted too

[deep helm]

i got him to give me blue rings and stuff now

[gusty remnant]

nahhh i havent got anything good from gob merchant

[cursive sparrow]

yall were being rude first lol and yall talked about sa

on kids like thats funny

[vagrant fulcrum]

Link a message, I just got here
You can also report rule-breakers within the Discord via the #discord-help 's modmail. Send a screenshot there and link to comment, you'll get a reply, it will be seen

[deep helm]

u report me i report u, we both go down

[cursive sparrow]

im reporting u rn

[gusty remnant]

😭

[deep helm]

bet

[vagrant fulcrum]

How about we stay respectful towards everyone, and when someone's baiting you, you just block them before doing something against the server's rules?
Let's keep the discussion here towards the game itself, please 🙂

[cursive sparrow]

no talking about kids isnt funny

[deep helm]

what r the rules

i havent read em in years

[cursive sparrow]

@vagrant fulcrum you find making jokes about little kids funny too?

[deep helm]

depends did the kid fall off a swing set?

bc thats pretty funny ngl

[cursive sparrow]

bro no ones talking to u ur weird @vagrant fulcrum bro u find this stuff okay?

[agile tide]

Damn theyre still at it

[lusty spade]

Yo anyone can tell me where square a location is?

[lethal badger]

Hi! Let's stop here, maybe perhaps DM each other

[deep helm]

it is in level 1 of ruins

[cursive sparrow]

nah im waiting for a warden to answer my report

[lusty spade]

Is it where golem or work spawns?

Worm*

[cursive sparrow]

how about yall do ur jobs now ⁨<@&988703997378584596>⁩

[deep helm]

worm

[lusty spade]

Thank you

[gusty remnant]

both spawn there i think

[deep helm]

golem is bridge

[simple vigil]

I'm looking for it too lol, want to group up?

[lusty spade]

Golem can spawn where worm spawns as well I know what module now thank you

[ashen grove]

getting hard teamed on water map there not even trying to hide it \

[deep helm]

yea i saw i was wrong when i lookedon my map lol

[gusty remnant]

thats the life bro

[magic cloak]

does anyone know when quests come out?

[lusty spade]

I’m actually at work just on discord asking where that module is for when I get home lol

[gusty remnant]

i think 10 hours is what a lot of ppl were saying

[lusty spade]

I hope they don’t come out till weekend at some point I’m about to be gone for 3 days lol

[magic cloak]

cheers

[wild trout]

quests out tonight?

[fathom kettle]

leveling rogue is disgusting, nice job devs

[gusty remnant]

^^^

[cursive sparrow]

yall gonna make me take this up with tavern masters ⁨<@&988703997378584596>⁩'

ts ahh

[deep helm]

i still need 2 gold weapons

[charred cosmos]

I think disarm should def have a negative trade off but being dependent on the opponent to hit you in a 6 second window is complete bs. Maybe they could have decreased the time to 3 seconds and left it alone. Or possibly made it so it decreased your pdr by 20% or something. Anything but what they've done. No one is gonna use this skill now. No one is gonna attack you when you pop it. Lol

[deep helm]

did they update the model of the zweg?

[gusty remnant]

with longsword this skill will still be powerful imo, you have 6 seconds where you can get a free hit or 2 possibly

[deep helm]

i think they did or maybe i just dont look at it too often

[charred cosmos]

I dont think anyone is gonna use it man. Its gonna be too easy to counter it. You're gonna pop it and the opponent is gonna run away and heal or whatever and you're gonna be standing there with your pants down.

[gusty remnant]

i can see how it could maybe use a buff in some aspects now but i think it will be strong with a skllfull longsword user as is now

[charred cosmos]

It honestly wasnt even that broken. It just needed a negative trade off or a shorter window. It was easy to block, bait out or run from. Even if you got hit by it you run for a second and pull your weapons back out and their skill is gone.

[gusty remnant]

its only somewhat easy to block for people with shields btw, it was very broken and combined with skills like sprint or adrenaline rush people can keep on top of you and its nuts

[charred cosmos]

If you fought them in a door way and they hit the door way it's gone too lol

It would have been better if they made it where only an arming sword could do it and you couldn't be dual weilding. I understand the slayer grief people were feeling but it wasnt the one all be all people have been crying like it was.

[honest pelican]

people complaining about disarm being op are the people that don't know how to fight a smite divine protection cleric, the skill was loud as hell and with movement being what it is you just walk away or blck

[gusty remnant]

disarm was incredibly op admittably by sdf too

and every single fighter was using it bcuz it was too op

longsword being the only weapon that can use it is nice and niche but also strong in a skillful user

[charred cosmos]

Thats not a very good argument because he is the same person that said druid was fine how it was for so long.

[zealous wing]

Doesn’t have to just be a sword anymore

[gusty remnant]

i mean its not fun getting one shot by adrenaline rush disarm

[charred cosmos]

It'd be fine if longsword was the only weapon thay could use it as long as you aren't dependent on the opponent to hit you.

[gusty remnant]

yeah but longsword is the only weapon that its usable with, u cant really use a one handed falcion

or maybe halberd can use it too

[charred cosmos]

Any weapon that can parry can use it now.

[gusty remnant]

no bro long sword using disarm that procs on damage is op

[gusty remnant]

yeah but no weapons beside longsword is actually good

[zealous wing]

Any weapon that can parry, meaning all weapons I think

[gusty remnant]

yeah bro any weapon can use the skill

[charred cosmos]

If it was permanent like cutthroat then it would be okay cause you wouldn't have to telegraph it.

But as of rn its cooked

[zealous wing]

Have you seen the double axe parry? That’s my new fav

[gusty remnant]

longsword and halberd are the only two it would work with the new update tho

[gusty remnant]

yeah it looks sick

longsword with the old disarm was op cuz u cant even block the poke

[zealous wing]

With the perks and victory strike I was hitting for 170 and it’s almost an instant attack I squire

[charred cosmos]

I honestly think those would be the worst two weapons to do it with. Lol maybe the halberd would be okay. But now you're gonna have to have a weapon thats easy to block with and is fast.

[gusty remnant]

fire

[charred cosmos]

Unless they make it active until used.

[gusty remnant]

no thats dumb

why can they guaranteed holster my weapon mid fight

[rich cargo]

The grind for the awls and bellows is gonna be the death of me lol I need to learn the rooms better

[obtuse tundra]

So does the parry have to hit aswell? Doing that in 4 seconds might be hard to time

[zealous wing]

6 seconds now

[broken sigil]

So bard class now -3 movespeed for no reason great…… so dumb

[rich cargo]

That's what balancing is lol

[obtuse tundra]

I love being slow

[gusty remnant]

yeahh they should buff the time by at least 2 secs

[rich cargo]

At the end of the day they're going to make something broken and then slowly degrade it, till it's usable

[zealous wing]

I mean I was playing bard dwarf in squire had 315ms I think it’s fine lol

[rich cargo]

6 seconds it is I thought

[gusty remnant]

oh yeah then that seems fair for now

[broken sigil]

It just defies logic, what is the reasoning? Bard was too fast?

[rich cargo]

Yeah, til the next time they need to look at it should def work better than before

[wintry fox]

W patch ngl

[zealous wing]

Yes, hitting max ms in squire is too fast, especially now that the movement is so fluid you don’t really lose ms it makes sence

[silver bloom]

except that it throws off our expectations completely and makes it feel alot worse than if they handled it better from the get-go, there's a difference between degrading and completely flipping the skill's use upside down

[misty crane]

I need someone to tell me they feel like nerfing bard was necessary and why please. Im going insane

[agile tide]

I kind of wish they would just make everything broken and go from there ngl

[zealous wing]

^^^

[midnight sail]

new patch oh yeah dwarven mountaineer here we come 🙂

[rich cargo]

It went from needing an attack for you to disarm somebody to needing to Parry somebody to disarm them. Many games do this. Do we need to bring up OverWatch? The way they go about balancing and making and bringing in New concepts is almost the same. They make it ridiculously broken and then they slowly back it off until it's either unusable and then they buff it or it gets nerfed to the point where it's actually sustainable for actual game use

[broken sigil]

Bro actually

[zealous wing]

I smell a slayer main

[midnight sail]

yeah when i see the disarm buff on you i will wait 6 seconds now to attack 😛

[rich cargo]

At the end of the day you're going to be parrying somebody to disarm them, unless you're going to swing your weapon extensively, hard in hopes that they're not gripping onto theirs. A Perry is way more likely to disarm somebody.

[rich cargo]

Tbh I'm playing all classes til I find one I really like I just enjoy hearing what ppl think and going back and forth

[agile tide]

I haven’t played sorc since last season but it felt pretty good looking Castle, you can just one shot all the skeletons before they get up

[silver bloom]

too often do i see people playing devil's advocate in favor of the devs, don't know what makes it so hard to admit that the way they go about doing alot of things is just flat out unoptimal and bad

[zealous wing]

I’m the same way 🙂

[rich cargo]

What's incompetent is making something so bad that nobody wants to use it so you can't get any statistical analysis off that. Because no offense. If nobody touches disarm whatsoever, how are they going to know what to do with it? Essentially they just added in something for nobody to touch. That's somehow better than making something broken and you slowly balancing it as people complain? I mean complaining is how they get most of their balancing feedback. At least you'd hope they'd listen to the complaints and respond accordingly to it

[agile tide]

It’s better than wiz SSF cuz no MS reduction from weapon though, I’d say it’s the strongest ungeared caster class at the moment

[broken sigil]

#justiceforbard bring back my movespeed

[silver bloom]

everyone around you is losing movespeed too

[misty crane]

PLease im begging someone tell me they felt like bard was op last patch

I at least need to hear one person make that complaint or im gonna go nuts

[rich cargo]

I mean I just joined recently and I have been seeing a bunch of new players so maybe they will lose older players yes which does suck for them

[agile tide]

I know what u mean, half of warlock builds arent buildable either with low knowledge. And u can only build the crippled version of some

[zealous wing]

It’s been fine, not op there’s a reason they haven’t been changed much in 2 years. I agree with the ms change tho, 325 in norms is too high

[broken sigil]

It’s all good, they are just going to add a bunch of cool shit for fighter and barbarian to shit on you and now they are going to slow you down so they can catch you and kill you easier

[silver bloom]

saying this with a straight face, glossing over the fact how kite and kiter the game has been for the majority of its lifespan, this has been a wonderful wipe

[agile tide]

Bard is bard, mained it for two wipes and only don’t now cuz I got bored

[minor shore]

Is there a unique enemy in new zone?

[zealous wing]

I guess we’ve already forgotten about Druid lmao

[sleek ridge]

Feels like it has just been barb for forever for me!

[sleek ridge]

Let the rats rot

[broken sigil]

All bard had in fights was mobility, in melee engagements with fighter, barbarian, cleric, rogue it loses the 1v1 all things equal, #bringbackmymovespeed

[agile tide]

Druid was BS mainly because they got to fight u as many times as it took to win and reset in between, drawing the fight out into an inevitable third party situation that they could rat out of and clean up

[rich cargo]

Druid should have a timer on their transformations

[devout jolt]

How many druid have you fought 1v1 that you thought could win without resetting?

[agile tide]

I don’t understand your point

[timber junco]

Playing with sorc. A druid with panth and silence can literally run me down

n now they got bleed n slow

[devout jolt]

Closing distance now is really difficult without chicken panther jump

[jovial aspen]

i can't get my voip to work has anyone had this issue?

[devout jolt]

Also silence is .1 seconds.. interrupt not a silence

[devout jolt]

My point is druids need help, having to reset 10 times isnt really all that fun either

[timber junco]

its 2s to cast any spell. N bleed/slow are just fkex

it all gets mixed up into a disgusting combo

[agile tide]

Well yeah it just needs a rework so it isn’t terrible to play against and feels strong to play. Microbalances in either direction weren’t getting it done

[devout jolt]

How do you fight rogues with CT?

Rogue > Panther

[timber junco]

I dont. i just run lmao

[devout jolt]

Then run from druids, they cannot panther chicken jump anymore

[runic vigil]

bro don't even bother. ppl are still salty about how strong it was. imagine trying to play trios shapeshift in druids state, I'm playing mission impossible over here

the problem is there was so many compounding nerfs before this big nerf, you put them together and panther hits like a wet noodle and takes as much damage as one. isn't even fast, first days I was getting outrun in squire as panther lmfao

not to mention you gotta be a total bot to die to Bear, -30% action speed and slow af, if you're not cornered and you die to Bear it's honestly huge skill issue

[lyric creek]

look... at least your classes got things k, playing cleric im at +2 dex +2 resource + 2 knowledge in my gear sets, we do absolutely no damage compared to the other classes, our heal times suck and all we're good for is pve slaying things

[visual wind]

how rare are rusty broken swords

[static totem]

should be less rarer now

[runic vigil]

I play rogue and druid in trios, what'd I get

[lyric creek]

you gotta kill the 2 handed sword skeletons, just go to HR and i got 2 in a single run

[visual wind]

is it higher drop chance in hr?

[devout jolt]

My favorite was when penguin came out and then became instantly useless.

[pearl dome]

does anyone know if we're still getting more quests unlock today? tailor quests would be pretty nice..

[runic vigil]

YEP

[lyric creek]

you got penguin... and a whole map to play penguin on, my purify dont even work on that map, im stuck swimming slow, dying to sharks, and killing monsters at 1/2 the speed of other classes

[keen hill]

Bring back the disarm skill. Literally useless now

[runic vigil]

that's not a serious argument bro, also cleric is incredible in trios I do not get your point at all

[lapis pivot]

best class to solo bosses?

[minor shore]

What are the dwarves called that use the guns?

[visual wind]

bard probably

[pearl dome]

bard is usually bis for bossing

[lapis pivot]

sick thats what im lvling now

[lyric creek]

we bad in trios right now, knowledge cap for spells puts us at 2 total if we want to have raise ; ;

[devout jolt]

Are you seriously telling me Cleric is underpowered?

[runic vigil]

My cleric been doing fine

Idk how you can argue that

[lyric creek]

nah its not once you gear but squire kits are kaka here at the start , same wet noodle as panther

[devout jolt]

I'm on my cleric right now. Trios- good. Solo- good.

[runic vigil]

half the classes are booty in squire that's not a real argument

game is balanced around gear

[spiral totem]

no wonder my stash is filling with gold. 1 purple bangle is 2 gold stacks... how did they not adjust the small gold bags yet??

[lyric creek]

exactly so its all balanced other than op barb/fighter so we good, give it a couple weeks for more adjustments and better squire gear and games gonna be fun again

[runic vigil]

it's not tho, druid is terrible

[devout jolt]

I just spawned in "corridors" without an exit and the only way out is a gate that is locked. Got a health shrine- so that is nice i guess.

[runic vigil]

which was the entire argument

[devout jolt]

Pick lock

Nope just the edge of the map.

[lyric creek]

bear druid hits my cleric shield faster than i can block -> attack

[runic vigil]

You don't need to block, just space

Morningstar can easily punish bear

[devout jolt]

Seriously take a step backward, when they go to shapeshift step forward. Game set match

[lyric creek]

dont have morning star even with all the quests done, and my movements too slow XD

[runic vigil]

I mean sounds like you are fighting in squire lmao

[lyric creek]

thats why im saying like right now we all booty cheeks

[runic vigil]

we aren't, a lot of ppl moved on from squire

there's lots of gear everywhere and you can even socket base stats again

[lyric creek]

i know that but im like level 52 and i've only found 3 morning stars total

them things rarer than legendary gems

[devout jolt]

Blind, found an urn with a path.

[runic vigil]

flanged mace can also space out bear

you don't need to use a morning star even if it's better

[devout jolt]

honestly quarterstaff rocks

[lyric creek]

flanged mace is balls compared to litterally any other weapon

[runic vigil]

Yeah with the parry quarterstaff is a lot better than it was

[lyric creek]

id feel braver using the sling than flanged mace

[runic vigil]

Oh I agree it was my squire kit weapon on druid starting out it sucks lmao

But the reason I say that is because that's how easy it is to space bear

Just bait out right click

If they go panther you will 2-3 tap them and they need like 6+ hits while you're in PDR

[lyric creek]

walking into the armory and seeing all the weapons, you look at the door and see flanged mace being used as the door stopper

[runic vigil]

LOL yeah that weapon is cheeks

just buy a ton of morning stars when you see them at the weapon Smith tbh

if you're running squire it'll be better than a flanged mace, I did it w spears cause I can't find em outside the water map

[lyric creek]

https://ibb.co/YBkTsXcX

you said that and i was like lets check weapon smith

💀 weapon smith trolling me

[pearl dome]

are we not getting any more quests today other than these new ones? still no weaponsmith or tailor rep to be gained?

[tiny laurel]

I havent seen anything about it but if i recall correctly they normally update them every week when they use this style of quest drip-feeding. I will say that if they dont add new quests im taking a week break lol.

[cursive sparrow]

if quests do come out theyre coming out at 7 when quests reset im pre sure

[tiny laurel]

thats what im assuming as well.

[rapid halo]

When new quests?

[cursive sparrow]

quests usually reset like 7 or 8 est

[sand sedge]

i wanna say like 8ish hours from now

[rapid halo]

Ok cool

[blazing sail]

are there quests locked behind the cockatrice quest???

[chrome surge]

Can anyone tell me approximately how long it will be before DND releases more new quests?

[stone panther]

no. they are time gated

[blazing sail]

so im not the only one stuck in poor squire gear?

[lusty spade]

bro where do i find these damn green ceromonial daggers im about to crash out

[rough vigil]

Whats the current meta???

[lusty spade]

where did u get ur ceromonial daggers?

[stark summit]

anyone know what arena will be allowing? rarity/looted state

[ruby siren]

is team killing bannable +

[agile tide]

Wait the patch didn’t put in more quests? What are we doing here

[nova quest]

Maelstrom adventure or frost mountain chests, there are also like 3 spawn points in ruins

[nova quest]

Quests always release friday gmt+0

[inland harbor]

does anyone else have the hydra flashbang bug?

like they fixed the sound of pulling out lock picks, but if someone places down a hydra i get csgo flash banged for 2 secs

[tall talon]

Do you have to be in high roller for bellows drops?

[cursive sparrow]

no but it helps a lot

[stoic ridge]

Wait the description of disarm is different then what it says in the patch notes

Disarms description in game says, "When you block a melee attack within 6 seconds, you disarm the opponent." In the patch notes it says when you parry.

If so, then that does make disarm weaker then before, but still incredibly strong, and a lot more risk reward

It also makes it useless on slayer

So does parry work with lanter shield blocking?

[tame elbow]

give me my 30 bucks back, crap no max health

[stoic ridge]

It does not.

It would have been incredibly strong if so

[sage vector]

SO what now you need to pop disarm and then block an attack for it to work

[polar talon]

no new quest for this weekend ?

[stoic ridge]

Yes, which I wont lie, makes it scary on a rondel fighter

[polar talon]

yes

[stoic ridge]

It doesnt seem like you need to land the parry attack tho? I think just blocking with a weapon applies disarm. Makes it uselss on shield fighters and slayer fighters

[sage vector]

whos going to use that people just wait out the disarm any way now that people know it

[stoic ridge]

Someone else made a good point that you pop it and then just rush and attack and they are too scared to attack

I think duration should last like 10 seconds tho, and then itd be in a good, niche, spot

[muted verge]

what are these sorc nerfs...stop it! I'ts already a hard class to play

[stoic ridge]

Right now it seems to mostly benefit people using longsword on fighter, but tbh, a lot of the new parries are great, especially on daggers

[sage vector]

last 2 days people have figured it out and its alot harder to use now its useless lol

[stoic ridge]

If you hit a dagger parry with rondel, stilleto or kris, you get 2 free hits

[coarse laurel]

Where do I go to post a video I have of 4 chinese teamers in inferno? Theyre reported but I want to maximize the chance of their bans

[stoic ridge]

Def should have gave it another week to see how it affected the meta. I told everyone crying about it here that its very counterable, just give it some time

Its still good dont get me wrong, just a lot more niche

I think it was a niche skill already tho, just being glamorized because it was a new CC mechanic

[sage vector]

now people will cry about pommel strike like wtf every time fighters get cool shit they kill it

[stoic ridge]

Pummel strike will be a lot more versatile then it

[polar talon]

tbh honest its a good thing for disarm. but i would say they could also add that u have to hit the ennemy weapon to proc disarm too

[stoic ridge]

Haha glad we both came to the same opinion

[stoic ridge]

No, the nerf was already gigantic.

Also I thought they said something about skills being useable mid combos now? I havent seen that at all.

[polar talon]

what i mean by that is u could have 2 options to proc disarm. one by blocking and the other by hitboxing ennemy weapon wich would be fair

[stoic ridge]

Like if you are holding block on your sword, and hit disarm, it stops you from blocking. It would be a lot more useful if I could be holding block on my sword, and then hit it without losing the block

[stoic ridge]

Ahhhh, I like that

[spark bear]

well they took a good perk and ruined it RIP disarm

[stoic ridge]

But honestly it would be too strong then

[stoic ridge]

Theyll prolly buff it again soon

[lime pine]

Is socketing on unique item not working right now? So all my ultimate gems are worthless?

[stoic ridge]

I think that increasing the duration, and allowing you to activated while blocking would be a good buff

[spark bear]

didnt even last a week

[stoic ridge]

@zinc sparrow Please allow disarm to be activated while holding block on my weapon without it interupting the block!

Honestly thats the only buff it needs, and then it becomes a great skill again. Not as strong as before, but still strong

[lime pine]

That's a bit strong tbh, just increase the duration would be sufficient

[stoic ridge]

It is, but it still requires good timing, and is still weaker then before

Or make it so the duration is shorter, and you can activate it without interupting the block, then it becomes a timing skill

Just think they made a decent skill clunky

We will be seeing a lot of pommel strike fighters tho

Honestly pommel strike fighter might be better at hunting magic users then rogue

[tepid storm]

Bro, i was playing fighter with disarm, that was the most broken pvp skill counting from alpha state xd don't cope pls

[sage vector]

its too much what if to use the skill ..... if you need to do a lame hand thing to pop it people just wait it out.... now you need to hit a wep block in that time not going to happen

[stoic ridge]

No, it wasnt. It was strong because it was new and people didnt know how to counter it

[stoic ridge]

Again, thats why a good buff would be to make it so that you can activate it without interupting your block

You could block disarm or just wait out the 4 seconds. It was great, but there was a lot of counterplay

[noble verge]

Nice patch

[spark bear]

it wasnt broken there is visual effect when you pop the skill there is counterbility to you can run block whats broken is barbarian whirlwind going through walls and sheilds

[stoic ridge]

Idk how they can balance whirlwind without making it uselss

[tepid storm]

"how to counter" You mean block? Or run the 4 sec? Nice haha, i'm sorry dude but u are dellusional, even i that i won so many fights with it, know that i didnt deserved those kills lol

[stoic ridge]

Because if it ends by hitting a wall, it becomes way too niche

[spark bear]

its fine to go through sheild with heavy swing but it goes through walls as well

[sage vector]

you can block the ww I have done it but that wont stop it

[stoic ridge]

Yes, block or run for 4 seconds. Like you do for smite, or boc, or ignite

[spark bear]

there are plenty of other skills across other classes they make way to niche

[stoic ridge]

Agreed, I dont think more skills should be niche

[sage vector]

shit my buddy got killed when some chad who hit the parry off it

[stoic ridge]

Theres too many tight corridors in the game, it would be a completely useless skill if it ended by hitting a wall

Maybe only 2 spins?

[real goblet]

now for disarm does blocking count as a parry

[stoic ridge]

I think you just have to block an attack with a weapon.

Thats what it says in game

[real goblet]

shield count?

[stoic ridge]

No i just tested it

[real goblet]

bruh

[fallen flare]

Yes lets buff the barb more Hes still to weak

[stoic ridge]

With lantern shield, it did not proc

[spark bear]

im just saying disarm is useless now what am i supposed to do a with disarm perry i cant swing and hit again with just on second the should make it last 2 seconfs

[cursive sparrow]

disarm is so nasty now