game-discussion

[sturdy garden]

thats what the game is intended to be brother

[muted void]

So just a straight pvp game? the game would have died long ago

[sturdy garden]

its a pve pvp game dude

[alpine marsh]

no the game was supposed to be completely different.. sdf takes it to other place

[sonic maple]

[muted void]

Ye pve pvp is good just straight pvp is awful

[sturdy garden]

bro what

[swift grove]

I think they should make PVE loot the same as the PVP modes, but make it all non-tradeable and PVE only. then drop multiclassing for PVE only

[alpine marsh]

Yes please

[swift grove]

make adventure mode the best mode

[alpine marsh]

its what this game was supposed to be

pvp was supposed to be an addition for boredom

it never was supposed to be a straight pvp game.

[random cargo]

if u argue here you lose bro those people never took the time to get the hang of pvp

[sturdy garden]

the dungeon is supposed to feel alive. this is why they added random modules. thats why you can run into other adventurers. you can decide to fight to run whatever

[alpine marsh]

the bosses were supposed to require players to group up to complete bosses. they were supposed to be very difficult.

[sturdy garden]

go play minecraft

[swift grove]

I PVP'd through the playtests and season 1. was boring. pacifist was more fun, PVE more fun than that even. sorry the PVP just isn't that compelling

[alpine marsh]

i have something better than minecraft. although pvp in that game also sucks. PVP is never perfect and it rarely is fun and balanced.

[sturdy garden]

nah im kidding, but its supposed to be a living breathing dungeon

[sturdy garden]

okay, nothing wrong with that

pvp is the best part of the game

Hence why arena is so popular

[rapid halo]

I farmed the gold to buy it

[alpine marsh]

arena is popular because you dont lose your gear if you would be losing your gear no one would play it

[random cargo]

damn how long u farmed?

[muted void]

^

But pvp is also pretty fun Tony is right abt that

[sonic maple]

ya you did

[steel radish]

Another day of posting how absolutely wild their decision was to put all of the mobs into Arenas despite everyone’s feedback that mobs need to be reduced. A studio that listens is hard to come by now a days 😂

[alpine marsh]

there would be only some warmongers who defeat most matches but even then they woudl begin to complain about pvp again because they cant win all matches.

[sturdy garden]

who said they didnt listen?

[random cargo]

i bet you they cant do that, like they are not competent enough, thats why it didnt happen so far

[indigo ginkgo]

They should have made you battle around a central Beholder, with eye stalk beams shooting in random directions, stealin your levels, turning you to stone, that would be exciting!!

[muted void]

Also Arena I'd say is like the endgame content, you build up a crazy kit to fight with

[sonic maple]

theyve tried that

[rapid halo]

Probably 80 hours

[sturdy garden]

im jusy curious when did they say no or didnt listen to taking mobs out?

[sonic maple]

arena was yet more mindless

[steel radish]

Another question. We have had arenas for how long now? Are we almost done with this test or what?

[sturdy garden]

arena is still in playtest, what are we on about?

the mobs are fine, its the mini bosses that are terrible

[rapid vine]

mobs are somewhat not fine. warlock will just leech them as free hp. haha.

[jade kayak]

Is leviathan still a thing? The Maul

[rapid vine]

[jade depot]

Yeah it is, drops from the HR Stingray

[jade kayak]

Real, thanks boss

[sonic maple]

Buff everything

[vast kayak]

Not sure if they ever fixed a bug with it, but friend had one and it wasn't healing teammates.

[swift grove]

I saw a tiktok or youtube short where it was, but the heal isn't for much and its a very thin line between not getting healed/getting healed/getting clapped

the splash reaches slightly further than the tip of the weapon. slightly.

[vast kayak]

ah, thanks for update, he sold it because he thought it wasn't working

[leaden blaze]

This game is so trash lmao - you either fight streamers or cheaters

[rapid vine]

🤔

[vast kayak]

They are not one in the same.

[muted void]

yeah cheaters are more common than ppl think, they just hide their esp well

[worn iris]

The game is full of cheaters who don't get banned, and there's proof. These guys just keep creating accounts over and over again. It's about time you found a solution for IP bans. The lobbies are full of Chinese players, at least on my European server. How is that even possible? There are rats everywhere, and don't even get me started. I play with a streamer, and we get streamsniped all over the place. Maybe it's time to wake up, Ironmace, otherwise the game we all love is going to die very quickly.

[halcyon crown]

nerf wizard

[daring tangle]

whats the more popular server east or west

[muted void]

Both pretty dead but east fs

East squire to riches is popping

[daring tangle]

alr thanks

[muted void]

no problem

[muted void]

that was awful 0/10 Mods execute him

[solemn wave]

@glad thunder @little summit when the dev podcast to talk about wipe?

[solemn wave]

honestly beautifil

[lyric tendon]

Remove water map from squire to riches...

[outer grail]

liar xD

[random cargo]

oh no they delayed it for another 2 hours

almost done

[outer grail]

madness feature is super cool, I remember thinking about that and pitching the idea

[outer grail]

alr alr looking forward to it ☺️

[foggy rain]

Is it possible to trade items to/from friends on free accounts?

[midnight sail]

i love the mass suiciding that sometimes happens when the ocean map comes up 🙂

[muted void]

LOL FR

[outer grail]

if its wearable you cant because it will be returned by the goblin but if its gems or trinkets you can

[coral spade]

same

[random cargo]

what how?

[coral spade]

i was just fighting it and boom lobby gone

now back at the tavern

[random cargo]

like whole lobby disconnected?

[coral spade]

tho i kept expressman loot

[random cargo]

error message and all?

[coral spade]

ye

[random cargo]

like when pickpocket crashed everyone

[inner token]

every time i fight it because im bored of him because im trying to learn warlord on cough panther cough, the whole lobby with an error message crashes lol

[random cargo]

u cheesy cheesy boy

[silver ginkgo]

Nice, just get a bug, impossible to interact with attack, block, interact doors, during a mid-fight. wtf is this game.

[coral spade]

wich fight?

[inner token]

the worst part are the ultra geared noobs who are in my lobbies (pve) that just oneshot him basically lol :P
not to mention that the hardest part of it all is actually getting warlord in the lobby :3

[random cargo]

spam norms i guess

[coral spade]

you play in eu?

[inner token]

yea

[coral spade]

i think you might ahve talked about me there

[random cargo]

the ultra geared noob arrived

[inner token]

talked about you? wdym?

[random cargo]

think

he says he is said ultra geared noob

[coral spade]

well im geared

and i saw a panther doing warlord so i think you might

and im eu lobbies

[inner token]

but like, why are you and others like you even playing pve with these ultra kits tho? :3

[coral spade]

fun

[random cargo]

how ultra is ultra?

[inner token]

what's fun about oneshotting everything?

[coral spade]

just chilling

[inner token]

i would literally rather play roblox than be bored as hell playing pve with full rubysilver, grimsmiles & sht

[random cargo]

how does that make you mad now though

let him enjoy the game

the pve plebs hating on eachother now is wild

[inner token]

because im trynna learn something and then an ultra bissed out in... ruins my fun.. oh well

[silver ginkgo]

??? What does it change, I have a fcking bug where I can't attack and interact for no reason. WTF

[inner token]

i wish we had a full on singleplayer in this game so i could learn stuff without being bothered

[coral spade]

quick question matt

[random cargo]

oh im sorry i replied to the wrong message

[coral spade]

you ecnounted a warlork with horns and a halberd?

doing warlord

im just really curios if we did meet in the dungeon

[random cargo]

i mean thats part of the game, i also had to learn it while being bothered

when i learned it there was no PvE mode

talking like some unc rn but ye man what can i say you have it way easier now

or just get together with some1 from this discord and learn it together, the more people in the team the deader the lobbies in norms and hr

or do it in squire to riches, close to noone does bosses in that mode

[inner token]

encounted like 3 of those iirc, most recent one had a name sounding like Salmonella :P

[coral spade]

ah i would be SteeleTheCursed

sadly cant send pic in this channel

[inner token]

oh, yeah i saw that name once too

[coral spade]

to be fair tho im not wearing biss

just quite nice gear

[astral moth]

can we not make squire random i mean fuck how hard is it to add a system to where i can pick up to 1 or 2 maps of my selection if i wanted instead of being forced to play water map 8 times yo an never see goblin caves

[hardy stump]

no, we don't need 57 more ques

sdf said its going to be its own mode, hence its experimental now, we'll maybe be able to just que up as monsters

[dusk meteor]

my buddy told me to speak my mind to iron mace so here it is. make a game that holds the same playability logevity as league of legends or runescape. k? thanks!!

[tribal zodiac]

After 2 months back on discord, hows game doing?

[coral spade]

lich can crash entire lobby

[heady spindle]

Anyone have the stingray egg? Willing to give everything in my stash for it

[rapid halo]

How much do you have in your stash @heady spindle

A stingray egg cost me 4 dealthblooms the other day

[heady pond]

hello all, when wipe

[heady spindle]

Many bags and coins. Also a ton of gems

[random cargo]

bags and coins.... yea good luck

how many is many?

[heady spindle]

Coin no good?

[random cargo]

no4 deathblooms

[heady spindle]

How much is one deathbloom

[random cargo]

a lot

over 50k

[heady spindle]

So lame why are we even dealing in deathblooms

People are insane

[random cargo]

most expensive item for its size

u can fit a lot into trade window

[heady spindle]

I could probably buy 2

[random cargo]

thats half an egg already

not too bad

[heady spindle]

I had enough but I used it on the community religion challenge

[astral moth]

thats what i said

[astral moth]

i said nothing about quest what the fuck are you talking about

[heady spindle]

Guranteed I had more coin than most people. I would saved it if I knew I needed 15 deathblooms and a first born child

[astral moth]

i dont wanna have to load in water map 8 times in a row so having a check mark on what map you wanna play would be cool is what i said nothing about quest get straight kid

[random cargo]

weird flex but ok

[heady spindle]

You’re being condescending af. You ain’t him bud

[random cargo]

what do you even mean, that was the first condescending thing i said xd

[heady spindle]

Acting like you know more and saying not too bad

Bet I got more rep and gold than you

[random cargo]

xD

u felt attacked?

[heady spindle]

Good

[random cargo]

cant even type

im fried

but bro you are being defensive over nothing here i didnt say anything, u just randomly started bragging about having more gold than most ppl xd

[heady spindle]

No I didn’t brag

[random cargo]

huh?

and i just said weird flex but ok

[heady spindle]

U said not too bad like I haven’t seen it before

[random cargo]

wdym???

[heady spindle]

All I was saying was I coulda saved it so now people will have the torch and not me

It’s lame

[random cargo]

bro u can probably buy it for like 3 red stones next season so who cares

they always added quest cosmetics to the shop the following wipe

[blissful marsh]

have they officially announced wipe yet?

[heady spindle]

Nah it’ll be exclusive

[frail merlin]

It is planned for January 29th, per announcements.

[random cargo]

like the frost skelly u can buy now?????

[blissful marsh]

thanks

[random cargo]

that was a quest reward

[heady spindle]

It’ll be like the gx torch

[random cargo]

says you

[heady spindle]

You aren’t him. If you can’t help or offer me why are you trying to talk

[random cargo]

are you lost? i was helping you with telling you the price of db no? you started that shit, and just because u thing the torch is gonne be some prestigious item good, but im telling u its not

[upbeat haven]

yeah that torch is going to be in the shop like everything else is

[random cargo]

exactly

[heady spindle]

Gxc torch isn’t

[upbeat haven]

is that not the one distributed during the donation event?

[random cargo]

that torch cost u money on a charity stream

u had to donate the money and u got the skin in return

[heady spindle]

Saying weird flex was uncalled for. Nobody was flexing I was just stating people less coin that saved could get the torch this season and show it off in game

[random cargo]

i bet i had more coin than most people....

thats a weird flex right there

did i hurt your feelings?

[heady spindle]

Hence I was saying why did I waste my coin if I knew I would not be able to get it

[upbeat haven]

if hes complaining about the price of dbs, then he is almost certainly lacking coin

[heady spindle]

I used my coins on other things. I would of saved it if I knew I needed a unique item

[heady spindle]

Now I have to grind over 200k just for a damn torch

[random cargo]

ORRRRRRRR, crazy option

u learn the boss and do it yourself

saves u a lot of money

[heady spindle]

What? And have to kill it all 100 times

[random cargo]

probably

[heady spindle]

lol

[random cargo]

but at least its free

[upbeat haven]

gold is certainly the easier route, especially if you already have chests

[heady spindle]

Nobody wants to sell db for coin they just want other artifacts

[random cargo]

1 lad 2 chests most of the time

[rapid halo]

Yeah and to get a lad you need two chest 2 spectral bags

That’s what they were going for the other day anyway

[upbeat haven]

so 2 chests for lad then lad +2 for db seems pretty simple

and chests are so cheap now

[heady spindle]

I had the coin man but I wish I knew people were going to sell them for 4 db

[random cargo]

what else did u think they would sell it for?

[upbeat haven]

i paid 3db 2 full when chests were 35k mid wipe

[heady spindle]

That’s insane. 3db I haven’t even found 1 db

[serene shoal]

What coin

[heady spindle]

Gold

[serene shoal]

I have golf

How much u need

[heady spindle]

4 db worth lol

[random cargo]

i thought u can afford 2 db? xd

[heady spindle]

I only have about 50k gold and 4 chests rn

[random cargo]

thats about 2 dbs

[heady spindle]

1 spec bag and 20 bags

[random cargo]

so we greedy now?

[heady spindle]

Nah 1 db is 4 full chests

[upbeat haven]

yeah thats beyond doomed

[random cargo]

1 full chest is 20k

like 22k most

[heady spindle]

Nobody is selling a db for less than 2 chests and a lad or 4 chests

[upbeat haven]

4 red stones in the shop after wipe good luck buster

[heady spindle]

Eat poop

[random cargo]

facts

[random cargo]

i dont know why you want that skin to be so prestigious but it isn't xd

[heady spindle]

It is otherwise people wouldn’t be selling 1 egg for that much

[upbeat haven]

because the item is mind-bogglingly rare from an annoying boss on a map no one wants to play

[random cargo]

^

[heady spindle]

Exactly. So why we gate keep a torch everyone wants for a crappy boss

[random cargo]

thats just what they decided the quest to be

its not some super special quest reward, its just like evry other season where cosmetics were the reward for a quest

[heady spindle]

Red shards are real money?

[random cargo]

nothing is special about that torch, its just to force people to learn the new boss

[random cargo]

yes 1 costs 2 dollar

[heady spindle]

Oh i see now

[random cargo]

and its definitely not like gcx torch

[heady spindle]

It is tho

[random cargo]

or gcx campfire

no its not bro, those were items for a charity, limited to a period of time

[brazen pike]

every quest item has been sold in the shop, this one has no reason to be any different

[rapid halo]

I quite like the torch, that’s why I grinded for it, I wanted it now

[heady spindle]

The torch is sick

[random cargo]

just because they made the quest item WAYYYYYYY rarer than it should be doesnt make the skin special

[heady spindle]

But paying real money is lame

Idc if it’s special I actually want it

[rapid halo]

Better get to grinding in HR, take a cleric with holy purification

[heady spindle]

Grind hr boss no thanks

[rapid halo]

No, grind gold

[random cargo]

best way to get stingray egg, play sorc and have a wizz teamm8, sorc can freeze himself for phase and wiz just dps grinds the stingray with MM and meditate

if thats too much work for you pay 4 red shards next season

[heady spindle]

I’m not grinding the boss. For a .5 percent chance. I’d be better off rat rogue PvP and selling kits

[upbeat haven]

so theres nothing to complain about if everything is too much work for you

[brazen pike]

It would be cool if in future wipes bosses had rare drops that converted to cosmetics outside of quests, with the egg torch I avoided it knowing I could spend an extra hour at work and afford it next season instead of grinding it for potentially hundreds of hours

[random cargo]

i like that way of thinking

[heady spindle]

I already had it which is just demoralizing @upbeat haven

[upbeat haven]

the egg or the money? and what did you spend 16 full chests on

[heady spindle]

Money. Used it for hr god kits

[thin marten]

Did they buff the little bosses (Berserk, Thorn demonic and other ?) they have so many HP now

[manic cliff]

oh boi, can't wait for the monk release

[rapid halo]

I’m just ready for news man, they gotta be cooking something

[slender orchid]

Did the make druid forms temporary with a cooldown, but way more powerful?

[muted void]

Thats what we said last wipe

And they cooked slop

[muted void]

No there are charges now for shapeshifting

they have 4 each and each is replenished every 9 secs

[slender orchid]

As a cajun myself, I appreciate a good gumbo when I see one. Water map was nice but completely out of touch with the vibe. Specifically out of touch with the teasers they provided. It would be much better if the map was at night rather than the day.

[pallid hemlock]

my favorite is how they still have fake water in cavern and ruins 😂

[slender orchid]

Right.. I am sort of hoping there is a much bigger emphasis on druid forms power rather than near infinite shifts. Like you cast bear, instantly roars and knocks players back, cd for 20 sec, much beefier, etc

Cd for sec on the shapeshift* if the form is more pronounced with power, if you get what i mean

[sullen urchin]

please at least add levers to red portals, so people dont just run into them

[timber imp]

whats wrong with going red?

[sonic maple]

True rat rogue is very easy

[sullen urchin]

isnt the problem going red, is just anoying that most of players play next to them because is the safest option

[compact wasp]

whenever i rez someone in GC in that underwater part and light a campfire, it reminds me of the underwater fires in bikini bottom lol

[muted void]

Ikr wish they nerfed it to the ground ngl

[slender orchid]

Like they should completely buff every form in a sense, but make each cooldown on each form 1 charge at 25 sec (cd depending on how beefy it is)

Like bear form, 45 sec cd, lasts for 15 sec, when cast makes your armor increased by a flat high amount, and has innate passives like thorns or absorbs damage but slowly decays health as the roar dies down

[quick sierra]

im new player what is best barb build/ weapon ?

[slender orchid]

The problem everyone has with druid is the infinite amount of shapeshifting they can do.. if they buff the forms, pronounce their usefulness substaintially, and reduce the amount of times they can shift, I feel druid would be in a good place

[random cargo]

bardiche

[quick sierra]

with axes perks?

[random cargo]

no dont bother with those, i play robust, berserk iron will & morale boost, u can swap morale boost for like potion chugger when playing solos

and skillwise u can make most work, just dont pick like rage & archilles together because u dont need 2 skills dedicated to catch people

[quick sierra]

ty<3

[river frost]

Still havent added anything to get rid of rat gameplay I see

[fervent anvil]

But axe perks are fun :(

[random cargo]

yea they are, i love quirky oneshot builds

but he asked for best not most fun xd

[fervent anvil]

Im not really a fan of calling certain builds "the best" just cause a decent player with a "worse" build that they are used to will normally do better then a player running the "meta" for the first time. Same kinda reason i never really recommend watching youtubers for build guides

[random cargo]

i guess you can define best as most consistent in this game

[fervent anvil]

Like perk setup more depends on how the person plays. One build night be the best for you but it could be bad for others.

[muted void]

Like how some ppl play druid, we call that playstyle mentally challenged

[slate axle]

whens wipe?

haveint played in awhile

[azure hawk]

Is this game new? Seeing lots of clips of ppl not dealing with mobs then complaining about dying to them

[muted void]

29th of january

[pallid hemlock]

no its like 4 years old but pretty much the same as it was when it came out

[finite yoke]

This is some crazy glaze on the devs

[runic gust]

hello everyone i found a mistycal gem but when I left the dungeon it was no longer in the inventory. Is this normal?

[brazen pike]

yes, key items like the mystical gem are only available during a run

[runic gust]

what use it was for ?

[brazen pike]

each key item unlocks a door to a loot room with a treasure pile

[runic gust]

ok thx for the info

[slate axle]

is this game dead

[lavish spindle]

anyone tryna give me some ranger loot

[fluid tulip]

I was confused by the gem too at first 😂

[tidal jasper]

Ew beggar

[dawn olive]

this game is dead. nothing but s2r lobbieds and 2nd floor is empty after 1st round

no1 has any loot ironmace you stole this great game and fkin ruined it lol what a shame

[fluid tulip]

It’s end of wipe, most games are dead right before a seasonal wipe lol.

[mild orchid]

can you socket artifacts with gems?

[rapid halo]

No

[mild orchid]

thanks!

[pallid hemlock]

how is that glazing the devs 😂😂 should i have said its much worse atm??

[finite yoke]

Yes.

[pallid hemlock]

💀

[echo fjord]

is this game dead now? havent played in a while

[pallid hemlock]

ya, 82 players per queue

[hexed burrow]

they should streamline items, vendors/crafting, get rid of auction house

[rapid halo]

Auction house is fine, get rid of trade chat

[compact hollow]

remove druid

[swift grove]

buff entangling vines

[wanton furnace]

this game is so cancer

all I see is rats

[dusk trout]

whhen is wipe? ty

[frail merlin]

it is planned for january 29th per announcements.

[pallid hemlock]

guys does rogue go invisible and double jump with FINESSE or with MAGIC?

[neat urchin]

It's funny the concept of "graysons plate" not being updated for so long kind of implies grayson hasn't done shit in months xD

[subtle heart]

Grayson is on diet don’t be mean

[rapid halo]

How soon will that be?

[runic gust]

i need mini backpack in game xD

[pallid hemlock]

graysons plate is filled with whatever comes out of SDFs kitchen. whats happening in the kitchen, you may ask? well bro is coked out in the bathroom while the stove is on fire, flames spread to the counntertop scorching the half-prepped ingredients, and its about to burn down the fridge

[leaden sleet]

If I get put back in water map for the 6th game of squire to riches I'm uninstalling

[pallid hemlock]

28th. theyd have to have something prepared in order to give a preview. nothing is prepared

[mossy thistle]

so im very unseasoned about this game, is this still a fine time to join the game?

[runic gust]

if you like it

[lethal badger]

It’s a good time to start!

You’ll have some experience moving into the new season

[mossy thistle]

i do like it, just each time i play a pvp mode i get poked to death by a dagger no matter what. I feel like im unable to hit people but they r so locked in on me. Probs just skill diff

[unique briar]

damn impossible to get a stingray egg in time...

[lavish spindle]

I would never do such a thing

[lethal badger]

I treat it like a rogue lite, each battle gives you more experience and knowledge!

[inner token]

okay could mending grove and lich cause lobby crashes?

[rapid plaza]

hey, just rq, where can I report people for scamming?

[round elm]

you can report it to me mike, what happened

[rapid plaza]

the old switchery of deathbloom and stilleto knife, cant believe I fell for it lol.
been on the game a bit too long trying to trade my chests, should have gone to bed earlier.
I clipped it if u want to see proof

[round elm]

no need mike, thanks for the chest

[rapid plaza]

ahahahaha

ggs I guess

hate the game dont hate the player I guess

[stone oak]

it doesn't matter, its not even against their rules. people have bragged about it in here and in the trade hall

they dont even ban the trade bots

[rapid plaza]

yea I saw

first game I've played where it is so open, now it makes sense why trade hall is filled with scammers

[abstract hazel]

The wipe will save the game.

[round elm]

it sadly wont

[tawny shore]

I wish people would actually get banned for tking

[vapid jackal]

What happened to terrence

[topaz coyote]

Game is dead

[blissful marsh]

The wipe will save the game

[topaz coyote]

Nope

[sour bluff]

I was a line holder, I played the torrents and the playtests and since release we've been saying "wipe will save us!" but they just keep under delivering. It's been what, a year or so since the last actual content update?

er no--- an even worse indictment: 8 months between druid and sorc, 9 months between sorc and water map. It's been what, 3 or 4 months since water so we'll be getting actual content in July? August?

[rapid halo]

I’m just ready to see what’s in this wipe.

[pallid hemlock]

i cant wait for the new wizard spell in april!

[sour bluff]

They used to have moderate roadmaps, which built hype. They fell through one too many times and now they've adopted the "under commit over deliver" mindset but they never over deliver, they just drop something okay every 8 months and then disappear back into the shadows after changing the damage of francisca axes up adn down 1 point

[azure kernel]

So why are you still here

[sonic maple]

stalker

[sour bluff]

Because I want the game to be exciting again? I haven't played since water map came out, tried it a bit but the core game was still lacking anything really new and there wasn't anything to really look forward to.

[azure kernel]

then check back later

[sour bluff]

What are you talking about?

[azure kernel]

you are a doomer, if you unhappy, leave, come back later

[sour bluff]

You think I'm in here every day on my soapbox demanding answers? I went on a little stint of asking a week or two ago, and then I check every now and then. This is me chekcing back later

dude what a ridiculous thing to say. These devs took money from the players, it is not beyond reason to voice concerns about the game if they want people to keep playing it. I'm not a doomer because all I did was cite the timeline for their updates not painting a great picture.,

I'm not dooming, I'm telling you what their established patter is and what their pattern of updates has been like.

[azure kernel]

what you gonna do, call the bank to charge back

[upper token]

Is bard a good starting character

[sour bluff]

No you cartoon, I bought the founders pack and I want the game to be fun. Hence, criticism.

[azure kernel]

and did anything change

[round wraith]

Refund the game if you still can

[sour bluff]

Sure, every 9-10 months a small feature every now and then got released.

[upper token]

I didn’t pay for it?

[azure kernel]

so you saying your critism was not heard

[sour bluff]

Are you familiar with SDF's update history?

[round wraith]

Oh good than just delete it and get a different one

[azure kernel]

are you familiar with dooming

or copium

[sour bluff]

Bard is a complicated player who buffs and debuffs, so if you like managaing cooldowns theyre fun

[upper token]

😭 what’s happening did something go wrong

[sour bluff]

again, this is nowhere near dooming this is very reasonable criticism

what the other guy is doing is dooming

[upper token]

I take long to adapt to things who should I use then or is bard still an ok choice

[azure kernel]

but the dev dont reach out to you for your critism

[round wraith]

Shits been going downhill for years

[sour bluff]

Are we in a community discord? They're reaching out for criticism.

[azure kernel]

are they reaching out?

seems like coping to me

[sour bluff]

What on earth are you actually talking about?

[sonic maple]

try a few out if can

[azure kernel]

you come put your critism but no one care

[round wraith]

I care Michael, I care

[azure kernel]

time for a exit for you

[sour bluff]

Then mute me or look away from the screen you ridiculous little goblin what a stupid thing to say

What a silly thing to say

[sonic maple]

everything is permitted

[azure kernel]

name calling now, how nice

[sour bluff]

Is SDF on his alt or something

[round wraith]

was gonna say that

sorry michael u should of just lied abt ur name

[azure kernel]

keep the cope and doom up

[sour bluff]

If the devs didn't want people talking about their game, positive or otherwise, they wouldn't have a discord where everyone can post.

[sonic maple]

nothing is true

[azure kernel]

keep the critism, they do read it

[sour bluff]

how much are they paying you to bot for them, michael? ballpark figure?

dude, your computer underlines the word for you. criticism.

They do read it, they respond to people's comments.

[azure kernel]

keep the cope up

one day they will @ you and thank you for your critism

[round wraith]

Stop saying cope its almost as bad as your name

[azure kernel]

and juju sounds better

[round wraith]

Deev u gotta give up as well ever since the lawsuit the devs minds have turned to mush

[sour bluff]

Sorry Michael I didn't realize how significant a part of your personality Dark and Darker was for you. I promise my criticism of the game's development is not a reflection of what I think of you. It'll be ok. If you think the game is great, that's great.

[round wraith]

Juju is tough cope

[sour bluff]

If they never read my feedback, then oh well I typed these messages for nothing but to be honest. it doesn't seem like they read their own feedback if you're familiar at all with the devs historical flip-flopping so maybe you're right and discussing the game in any capacity is largely useless

[round wraith]

its ok to let it out deev

[sour bluff]

Let em know, shut down the discord! We solved the problem!

[azure kernel]

you finally understand

[round wraith]

i come in this discord every few months to talk shit and than leave

[sour bluff]

Michael you are cartoonishly bot-like it's really silly

[azure kernel]

i not the one coping

[sour bluff]

You keep using that word

[round wraith]

michael I forbid u to say cope

[sour bluff]

Mandy Patinkin meme here

[azure kernel]

i dont false hope myself

[round wraith]

better

[sour bluff]

False hope? What are you tlaking about?

[round wraith]

hes changing is lingo

[azure kernel]

this guy dont understand anymore

[sour bluff]

The devs have historically responded to players. They devs have noted and talked about community feedback in updates. Graysun has responded personally to people in the discord all the time.

Terry used to too. Maybe paul will

[round wraith]

yes but he doesnt actually do anything they say

[azure kernel]

so you are saying they take your feedback

[round wraith]

the devs dont even take streamers feedback

[sour bluff]

they certainly see it. Whether they do anyhting with it remains largely still to be seen

[round wraith]

no we have seen them not do anything about it for 2 years

[sour bluff]

this michael guy's AI is only slightly more engaging than some of the enemies in the game

[strange crag]

Dude, i jumped into adventure forgotten castle and the first item from a small vase was Zealous tier, i made 2k instantly by selling it to the Merchant.

[round wraith]

holy shit your him

save some for the rest of us

[strange crag]

I was joking.

I would appreciate Zealous tier items get implemented

[round wraith]

not a funny joke dude

[azure kernel]

so you will still pose critism

[sour bluff]

I was gonna say, is zealous a new tier of rarity? Did they add that?

[strange crag]

No if we all beg we can plan on it

[sour bluff]

Michael I'm bored of this, I'm not gonna engage with this anymore.

[strange crag]

no i'm a scalie

[sour bluff]

But I will proceed unimpeded by your pedantry

[round wraith]

no hes a shylow dip

oh nvm hes a scalie

[strange crag]

yup. that exclusively dragon content be where i goin

[round wraith]

what is a scaler???

[sour bluff]

I think it gets stuff off of dishes and walls and stuff

[tulip meadow]

its a directionless unit

[sour bluff]

You're using a shaver to get caked on stuff off your dishes?

[round wraith]

yup

[strange crag]

This place was dead. Good to see you all alive!

[round wraith]

ok juju out ill be back in 3 months to spread more positivity to this piecee of shit game

[strange crag]

Just enjoy the rare moments and don't get carried away in the rage bait.

i would rather lmao than rofl.

[sour bluff]

I can't wait for the January 29th update to be a wipe and 4 new cosmetics in the red stone store! sure would hate if there was a new class... or at least a date when monk is out...

[strange crag]

outmanned dragon or manned outdragoned?

that was intrusive

[strange crag]

Nuh cuz if you wait a full 3 months there will still be only around 10 days to next wipe. I'm pretty sure seasons are 3 months not four.

❤️ Project Winterlight ❤️

[agile quail]

When wipe

[swift grove]

"The start of Early Access Season 8 is now scheduled for January 29, 2026" #📢announcements message

[rapid halo]

Can we get some news plzzzzzzz

[ebon anchor]

I have been away for awhile
How's the game doing?

[azure hawk]

Oh interesting. All the clips I see are like people who have never seen mobs lol

[strange crag]

Difinitively those people have never seen mobs and still wont like my video.

[azure hawk]

I see lots of streamers getting stuck on spiders and it’s hilarious

[dusky token]

shortly 🌋

[rapid halo]

Plz

Hope I wake up to a snippet of news

[sonic maple]

first time?

[rapid halo]

lol

[dusky token]

soon

soon 🌋

[plain carbon]

@sour bluff but... You're me

[misty urchin]

They're gonna give druid mosquito form

That's my prediction

[azure hawk]

Mosquito form would be sick

I only started playing but my favourite part of any game really is having mobility over anything else

I like voiping to people in rat form and dropping them loot

[sharp hearth]

guyys im sorry for bothering, but i need 70k for religion, any1 can help me please 😭

[south copper]

why would you need or want anything in this game?

[sharp hearth]

For the religion skin my man

[stone panther]

you had like 3 months to get it. Just sell of everything you collected in that time and be done for the season

[sharp hearth]

I was not playing every day and i dont have kits or smth for selling bc im so bad at pvp

[stone panther]

pve HR on abyss. Easy 3-4k per round if you go in near squire and collect good armor to sell too.
5-8k if you do it on normal hr

[sharp hearth]

Any ways i dont have time to farm it in 9 dies, im studying and working thats why I ask if any1 can help me with it

[silver smelt]

K.G4 is rich guy

[sharp hearth]

Who is he i want to talk with him 😼??

[silver smelt]

@fickle mantle

[sharp hearth]

@fickle mantle mate, can you help me with the money for religion?, some people are sating you are the best, the goat, the better person of the world

[onyx oar]

type less farm more brokie

[sharp hearth]

In 20min i need to go working🪏🪏

[onyx oar]

You and everyone else? gg

Swimming map, kill the mean fishies

[sharp hearth]

Where?

[stone oak]

everyone i know is quitting this game because of druid

[onyx oar]

I just need 12 people in rags to riches and ill have a good time

This game doesn't require any major investment in time to enjoy good ol fashion ass woopin' PvP, it's perfect.

[teal jetty]

when is next wipe ? for know if i grind or just run for nothing ty

[onyx oar]

end of month, energy saving mode

Jan 29th I believe, good time to practice shooting on a ranger

[teal jetty]

ty bro very close ok ^^

each wipe i farm for many chest then i stop play lmao that sad

[stone panther]

they are like 6k a piece at the moment, great investment

[teal jetty]

xD

for space it was important at start

[stone panther]

yeh. I was to cheap to sling out for them. I only used them as currency for arti swaps.

my main gold storage was (and still is) just stash tabs full of 50 gold pouches. You can hold 12k of gold for like 1500 worth of pouches per tab

[teal jetty]

i hope dev are to add faster system for buy stuff of what we need. its to long to search in market each death

[sonic maple]

let us list sets

[stone panther]

or at the very least, make the trading window big enough to fit a complete set

[vapid aurora]

soo when is the game going to be ported onto console xd

[weak frost]

This is a great idea

[azure hawk]

They should remove market

[sharp hearth]

or balance the game, when it drops the wipe with no subattributes it was a very good time, when the only thing that matters on the kit was the rarity

[sonic maple]

This is a great idea

[silver ginkgo]

+1

[atomic cove]

Hell yeah, fuck those people bossing over and over again, let me get my bis squire dagger that does more damage than unique one

[sharp hearth]

Js balance the game

[atomic cove]

Yeah balance the game, make axe spec +3

And weapon mastery -5%

[stone panther]

They should just remove all weapons and give everyone a wet trout

[atomic cove]

And remove armor because real men fight naked

[stone panther]

ngl; I would pay money for a naked wet trout character bundle

[sharp hearth]

a naked fighting mode

for real mens

[fringe garnet]

good morning game discussion chat

[uneven scaffold]

youll own nothing and be happy ahh comment

[uneven cairn]

@zinc sparrow any news bro? it s been a long time and the game seems dead

[teal jetty]

yes. but top player gonna trade with $ on discord it will be the same. just nerf of legit ppl

[abstract hazel]

Wipe is coming and it will revive this game trust me

[atomic cove]

Prayge?

[upbeat sail]

monk and paladin this wipe 🙏

[onyx oar]

Cleric is paladin? Bringback 15% macespec

Guess demon punching lifestealing lock is monklike

[night lintel]

holy shit the game is dead i just looked and there is only 1 lfg message per day in every region exsept EU and North america only 1 person per day every other region is insane

[rapid halo]

How long before wipe do we usually get news?

[onyx oar]

Wipe is in 9 days, they should add an event to fill these post arena times. I do not have a full unique kit with artifact so unfortunately the arena event this week is too niche for me

Or make 2 arena modes, both ssf. Then it would make farming a kit like that worth it. But for 3 days? Cmon maaaaaaan

[stone panther]

no one in their right mind is going to run full unique in arena this weekend. Only the RMT twitch rat brigade. Everyone else will be in squire trying to punch a rat or running their uniques in hr. It's a stupid event

[onyx oar]

I like the idea of the "high roller arena" but yeah for 3 days that farm isn't worth it

[stone panther]

3 days? my dude, you lose the match you lose the kit. It'll be over in 3 minutes for most people

[onyx oar]

Are the rules the same for this event? or will ssf kits be removed as well? Is grouping allowed?

[stone panther]

there is no ssf, everything you take in, will be lost when you lose the match

[onyx oar]

Grouping?

w a solid trio, a kit can go far

[swift grove]

good til 2200 then you're on your own

[onyx oar]

Yeah they gotta remove grouping period.

[stone panther]

it's still rank based, so you'd be up against fully kitted equal players. That kit is going to go quick. And if you win.. you do not get to loot them. You lose... you lose tho

[onyx oar]

That;s even more dumb af

Aka real money traders will deck out new toons and make OP comps

[stone panther]

pretty much my guess. twitch tots and rmt's will have a blast on arena. Everyone else will be on HR running their last bits

[swift grove]

"It is end of wipe, what are you holding onto gear for" - Graysun
Probably holding gear for the end of wipe artifact event everyone thought was going to be fun.

just a hunch

[onyx oar]

They gotta find a way to make high roller boss loot more relevant. This 3 day event even for those players prolly feels bad. My cleric has never held a pulverizing prayer but if he did, damn id wanna show that B off

Game has more room for growth at least, arena went in the right direction this season

[swift grove]

HARD disagree. this season's mid-wipe change to SSF was a terrible call. they need to stop invalidating player effort midwipe like that but they do it EVERY. SINGLE. SEASON.

[stone panther]

I had 3 pulv's this season and I aint going anywhere near this 'special event'. Was looking forward all season, but yes... they caked it. Mates got vulgors and viola's and we will just be on HR, arena does not make sense if you lose it all when you lose but get nothing in return when you are victorious.

[onyx oar]

Mid wipe was sloppy, but the rules are how they gotta be. ssf, and no grouping. Fighting the same premades is lame af.

[swift grove]

plus the chosen arena modules this season were some of the worst yet. except for one ice map and one goblin map, the modules were disappointing at best

[onyx oar]

THAT PART

when part of the strat is wait for them to aggro the mini bosses, shit is wrong

[swift grove]

if the optimal strategy for either team (or both) is "dont engage with the monsters" why the fuck are there even monsters bro? put traps and hazards for people to navigate; not janky AI

[stone panther]

that hell module with the berserker, and wraith every single time. Other team just chills for 2 mins in spawn

[kind dome]

Pls just wipe game I don’t wanna wait 9 days more

Too much break between wipes

[umbral hearth]

you mean 10 right its going to be delayed by a full day like usual

[short sleet]

[short finch]

dead game ? i mean devs got money no new wipe ??

[onyx oar]

9 days lil dck

[short finch]

and there will be nothing new right? jsut kids like u who get clap ez

[gaunt sand]

What is coming with wipe though fr?

[onyx oar]

last seasons awards were pirate, got pirate stuff this season. Guessing next season is mountain lava themed

[strange crag]

this is me right now

[paper copper]

I’m thinking that a volcano will be added to the water map

[strange crag]

❤️

[paper copper]

Maybe a second level to the map

[left pagoda]

no one will play the crappy map

all anyone wants is a hell to goblin caves

[left pagoda]

i bet 2

[paper copper]

I’ve been playing it a lot after work. I think it’s pretty fun

Haven’t fought the boss though but the looting and normal mobs are pretty cool.

[left pagoda]

i hate swimming and thats with everygame, i dont enjoy being slowed down when youre aalready slow to begin with.

[onyx oar]

My wife and I like the pirate map, a level two sounds cool af

[paper copper]

I’m not saying your opinion is invalid, just personal taste I guess. Something about taking down a shark with a longsword is amazing to me 😂

[hardy canopy]

ive not played enough of the water map yet tbh, i need to learn it better!

[paper copper]

I think it will be put in that deep spiral area that serves no purpose currently

[stone panther]

the water map is not bad, but both bosses on the outer corners is just infuriating in hr. Even if you spawn right next to bladehand, he'll be outside the circle before you finish him off. Just enough sign of nothing making sense with them

[paper copper]

Yeah next season it’s confirmed circle is being removed from that map so people can actually boss

[keen olive]

has anyone got a named weapon from SK since the change?

[muted pebble]

Yo who tf is artyyboyyttv you in here fam

I havnt gotten named from key yet no

[proven swift]

what stuff from squire should i wear for fighting stingray for sorcerer?

[lyric bronze]

i hope they bring back epics into normals

[sturdy coral]

i think rare is a good limit. a gap that's pretty easy to get to

[topaz folio]

is it possible to create endgame content for dark and darker-change my mind https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1058379012105318510

[paper copper]

I really just want pre game tavern again 😭

[sterile ridge]

Those were good times

[indigo ginkgo]

Where are these Unique items coming from? Farmapalooza?

[dire heron]

Whats a syingray egg cost for trade i got 5 full chests and 5 full spectral bags should i farm more?

[paper copper]

❤️

[sterile ridge]

Hr lower floors tend to have a decent ammount. When I do bosses on second and third floor of crypts I tend to get 3-4 between the 2 if i don't pull any from pile.

[jade kayak]

Give Ranger an Explosive bolt Active, add 12 fire damage and a 2m AoE dealing 12 Base damage and have it scale .5 With Will! 3 Charges 12 Second Cd And restocks fully on a Blue camp or better! Do this and my soul is yours Grayson!!!

[abstract apex]

its "hardcore"

[jade kayak]

BARE WITNESS!!!

[vast kayak]

prob need 4x that if you're lucky

[dire heron]

Ahh well that torch is ass anyways

It will be in the store eventually

[bronze hornet]

DELETE DRUID

[abstract apex]

Fighter is more of an issue. more fighters than druids

[bronze hornet]

good fighter vs good druid = druid wins

[abstract apex]

Thats why theres 4x the amount of fighters to druids right?

and bro no one cares about ur lil solo leaderboards at the end of one of the worst wipes we've had.

Solos is and forever will be unbalanced and it'd be easier to remove it than balance it SDF even proved this when he removed solos/duos cause of a youtuber complaining about too many queues 🙂

[vapid oyster]

solos was a massive mistake

[dull vapor]

ShadowSlace if you see this, know that sometimes the portals can spawn in the basement of a room.

felt bad taking the portal i opened Infront of them and then watching them hide in the center of the circle and die

[vapid oyster]

teaming isn't punished in norms anyway idk what you're tryin to say lol

I run into at least one 4 man team a game in s2r

and as far as arc goes, trios is pretty blood thirsty, there's for sure some people that wont attack on sight, but if you hear a team comming and you're at a high quality loot area, you prepare for a fight. Solos is where all the cowards go lol

[silver smelt]

[tawny forum]

I played a decent amount of s2r and have never ran into teamers, only norms and hr. usually everyone's too bloodthirsty. there are a lot of chaotic 3v1v2vs etc's though lol

[vapid oyster]

na it's constant

[tawny forum]

na or eu?

[vapid oyster]

they need to stop allowing people to solo queue that game mode

had a couple games last night where we may have been the only trio in the lobby

whole match was just running down solos

fuckin zzzzz

[tawny forum]

idk I be loading as a solo and facing random fill trios and clearing lobbies

I can understand for teaming purposes

[silver smelt]

love these guys that just come here and hate without any context

[boreal atlas]

sdf tricked me into buying legendary status just for him to kill this fckass game, my 1.2k hrs is context enough.

[boreal atlas]

chud

[silver smelt]

<@&988703997378584596> #game-discussion message

[boreal atlas]

mods come help me someone has an opinion!

[sturdy coral]

lmao complaining you got over a thousand hours for $30 is chud behavior

[zealous wing]

Lmao probably bought the new 80$ cod and played for 50hrs too

[silver smelt]

Thousand hours means he really loved the game.
SDF made some mistakes that pushed the community away, but he rebuilt the game to be better and more enjoyable.
If he doesn’t want to play a better game, that’s his problem.

[paper copper]

The game is looking way better than before. I’d say we are moving in a positive direction for sure.

[left pagoda]

this dude loves it when SDF hits his chin

@rancid lichen when are they doin the QnA

[foggy oriole]

does anyone know when they are planning to wipe?

[scarlet wharf]

29th

[foggy oriole]

thanks

[autumn wren]

When they removed solos but had it so you could team up in dungeon the game was in a great state but the solo criers ruined that

[proud marten]

gorilla druid when

[copper lava]

No matter how great a game is, from all the games I've played and communities I've been part of, there will always be people who aren’t satisfied 🤣

[amber imp]

So I’m just starting out cause the mobile version of this game got cooked. What’s a quick rundown on good solo classes and what map to run

Is solo goblin caves the basic one to run?

[paper copper]

What modes are there on mobile

Like pve , pvp, and high roller ?

[amber imp]

Pve PvP and no high roller

Hell, inferno, normal,

[patent parrot]

when wipe

[paper copper]

In that case I would assume that the game is a lot different. If they have fighter class, that’s a good one to start learning the game .Frost mountain is a good map to start with because it has both goblins and skeletons if your trying to learn how to fight each type of enemy

That’s if frost mountain is on mobile

Obviously PVE

When you feel more comfortable clearing rooms / mobs try out PvP

[rapid halo]

What mobile version?

[amber imp]

The mobs definitely feel stronger here. I was almost getting fucked up to a goblin running Druid

[amber imp]

It was called dark and darker but changed to abyss of dungeon

[fervent anvil]

there used to be. its not dark and darker anymore.

[amber imp]

It’s ending today tho

[marble yoke]

Abyss of Dungeons has already ended for me.

It was a Krafton game that looked identical to dark and darker, except we had door mimics.

Same bosses. We had arena. It was fun.

Fighter or Barb is definitely the best way to start here. Stay away from bard and wizard until you are a little more experienced. Druid has enough players lol.

[amber imp]

Yeah abyss started off as dark and darker but had a name change and some other shit

I’ll check out fighter and barb here. How’s warlock?

[marble yoke]

You definitely get more spells here. So, switching between all of them is more of a hassle than in the mobile game, but it is effective.

I played until the shut it down. It was a sad day. I think them changing the name had something to do with the lawsuit.

[amber imp]

Yeah it definitely did

[sonic maple]

Whatever you like

[fervent anvil]

warlocks fun

[warm nova]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/689857/suggestion-to-improve-wipe-schedule-and-server-reopening

[sonic kayak]

hey, ive been playing dark and darker half a year ago quite a lot. I had to move out for a while so i didnt have time to play. I wanted to hop on back, but ive been using Epic Games launcher. Is there some posibility i could have my account back ?

[fervent anvil]

That closed ages ago. You could try support but idk how well that would go.

[molten ridge]

Wipe announced?

[velvet pulsar]

Dook & Dooker Wipe Too Far Away 🙁

[silver smelt]

yes

[lofty barn]

29th

[stone oak]

has the HR timer started?

[zinc fossil]

everything okay? im getting crashes. I NEED MY FIX

[icy jewel]

i have 20 slots full of BIS and nobodies buying it. Its about to go on sale

[empty mauve]

If you gain nothing out of it, why risk gear on this arena "event" if you can still run (and gain new gear) for 3 days in pvp? It should at the very least give you the enemies gear. 100% risk 0 reward. Make it make sense.

[muted void]

How do you even die to ppl in squire when you have minted gear

[mental garden]

How much effective health does Barb have? 700?

[dusty rivet]

do we have a new season?

[sullen urchin]

are we getting any source of video or something before the wipe? @Graysun

[copper bronze]

Subject: Report for Repeated Illegal Teaming - KuteKittyKatGirl & GamerDruid
Content:
I would like to report two players for illegal teaming:
Player ID 1: KuteKittyKatGirl
Player ID 2: GamerDruid
These two players have repeatedly engaged in illegal teaming, yet they have never been banned. I have recorded video evidence this time, and I am requesting a permanent ban on their accounts.
In the video, you can clearly see them coordinating their attack: one positioned on my left and the other on my right. They deliberately lured a group of mobs to surround me and then attacked me together. The footage clearly shows them teaming up and looting my gear together after I was defeated. Please take immediate action.

Could you please advise on how I can upload the video evidence? It is truly disheartening to lose a loadout that I spent over 30,000 gold to put together in just one unfair match. This loss is very difficult to accept.

[dusty rivet]

a link?
gofile is a good upload system

[copper bronze]

gofile.io/d/SOFfnc

I have encountered these two players, KuteKittyKatGirl and GamerDruid, multiple times now. Their behavior is a blatant and consistent pattern of illegal teaming.
I have witnessed them on several occasions either sharing loot from the same corpse or coordinating to ambush players who have just finished a fight (third-partying together).
I am extremely frustrated and confused as to why they have not been banned yet despite being repeat offenders. Do these players have some kind of special privilege or immunity? It is demoralizing to see such obvious cheaters continuing to ruin the game for honest players who risk expensive gear.
I have attached/provided video evidence of their latest offense. You can clearly see them working as a team to surround me and share my items. I expect a clear explanation and, more importantly, a permanent ban for these accounts to maintain the integrity of the game.

[azure hawk]

I’m the Druid, get rekt nerd

[copper bronze]

What exactly is the problem here? I’m playing within the game's rules by using the gold I earned to build a kit. Is everyone supposed to run trash gear only? Since when does bringing a good kit justify being ganged up on by illegal teaming rats? One is a core game mechanic, the other is a bannable offense.

[odd grove]

there isnt a problem guy is just trolling you

[copper bronze]

Is there something wrong with using the gear I worked for? Rules are rules. Just because I have a better kit doesn't give 'team-rats' a free pass to cheat. If you think high-tier gear justifies illegal teaming, you’re part of the problem that’s destroying the game

[rustic socket]

teaming in solo norms gotta be summiest shit ive ever seen. immabear and thosewhoknow67 need to delete themselves

[azure hawk]

If you’re whining about teaming, go play something else. The game has ~3k players, the devs won’t risk wiping half of that because of teaming

[odd grove]

Press escape while in game > top left click support > click report player

[copper bronze]

I’m with you 100%. Teaming in solo is the lowest of the low. It’s honestly so draining to lose your progress just because some rats can’t win a 1v1 and have to hold hands

[rustic socket]

oh my of course, my apologies. how dare i complain about something not allowed in the video game! im so sorry

[odd grove]

[azure hawk]

Seems allowed to me

[copper bronze]

Of course I reported them. The problem isn't the reporting process; it's the lack of results. I’ve encountered these same players multiple times—if the standard report button worked, they would have been banned long ago. The system is failing if it can’t catch people who team this flagrantly.

[odd grove]

Well saying all that in discord isnt going to do anything, thats why i directed you to report them

[odd grove]

Did you submit video clips or are you just clicking report in game

[copper bronze]

Simultaneously

[odd grove]

then there isnt anything else thats worth doing

[copper bronze]

It takes me about 12 matches to grind 30,000 gold. Each full run (Castle levels 1-3) takes about 40 minutes. That means I spent 8 full hours of my life purely grinding, just to have a set of top-tier gear 'donated' to illegal teamers in a single match. 8 hours of effort wiped out by cheaters who refuse to play by the rules. How is this acceptable?

[odd grove]

maybe its time to take a different approach then

stop spending 30k on one kit and spend it on like 4 different ones

[copper bronze]

I wasn't looking for a sustainable way to play. I spent a long time assembling this specific kit just to experience the charm of those peak stats for one single run. I wasn't even planning to take it out a second time. The tragedy is that my one 'dream session' was stolen by illegal teamers in the very first match.

[green oak]

What is better for arena fighter, a longsword or a sword with a shield?

[zealous trout]

When is wipe ? do people still play this game

[odd grove]

im not saying you shouldnt be mad you got teamed on, rats who team like that are cringe but if you spend all your gold on one kit and die even if it isnt to teamers you dont have anything left to regear

youd have a better time spending less generally to accrue more gold as you kill people with less risk

[pallid hemlock]

imagine if Nikita added spectating to tarkov and people started whining about teamers 😂😂

[muted void]

Well it would certainly help with its massive cheater problem

[pallid hemlock]

spectating would? how so?

[muted void]

People could def look at the kill cam and see if its like esp or wtv

Also you could watch to see if they would track people through walls

Spectating comes with its upsides and downsides ofc

[quaint phoenix]

Who's excited to lose their artifacts in Hardcore Arena?! woooooo such a great idea

S/O @glad thunder gonna be a great wipe event

[clear pendant]

XD

[west garden]

anyone remember dungeonborne? feeling a familiar aura here

[copper bronze]

Sigh... it just feels so bad. Honestly, this has completely ruined my mood for the night. I don’t think I’ll even be able to sleep well because of how frustrating this is. It's not just about the gold; it's the feeling of all that effort being stolen by cheaters

[muted void]

Is 1+ additional phys dmg better for mobs or 1 true?

[wraith wigeon]

This game will be good after wipe, yes?

[warm nova]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/689857/suggestion-to-improve-wipe-schedule-and-server-reopening

[whole garden]

Wizard too strong remove his spells and staff. Bonkers are too strong

[cerulean raft]

When is the wipe?

[rapid halo]

It’s scheduled for the 29th of January

[cerulean raft]

Bet thank you

[rapid stream]

So is there any talk about them removing the falchion bargain crap on this upcoming season?

[vapid oyster]

god I wish

[halcyon flax]

how to copy and paste last trade message from trade chat? when i copy and paste i dont see my text in trade chat

[wraith wigeon]

after wipe player count will exceed cod?

[vapid oyster]

imagine

[reef kettle]

pregnant goblin update

[stone oak]

played against sorc druid in duos yesterday and cringed so hard my neck hurts

i dont even thing sorc is good right now but when it combine how good their area control is with a class that has unlimited mobility, resets, and cant be punished for mistakes it just awful.

[charred cosmos]

Is it common practice to give someone the multiple chests/gold before you receive the stuff you want from them?

[valid vapor]

The mobile game inspired by dark and darker is shutting down today. Wish DaD would take some notes from what worked there and apply to pc. For 1 the melee combat had a lot more depth and skill expression.

[wraith wigeon]

take notes from the game that's shutting down? yeah

[pallid hemlock]

youre right, every game that has ever been shut down for any reason is a flaming garbage heap

was*

[wraith wigeon]

that's what I'm screamin

[valid vapor]

lol not like DaD is doing much better

[wraith wigeon]

one more wipe and it will be good.

[rustic socket]

I play 20 games. 19 of them i survive and win a few fights. fight one sorc and die. devs, remove that class please. and druid. thanks for your time

[onyx oar]

Aren't there less than 5 warlords total for those two classes?

Nerf all the damn mages mortal strike

And don't give fighter all the best perks in game

[indigo ginkgo]

FYI: Pyka is DJing on Twitch, great music to play Dark and Darker by! Boom chicka boom boom

[peak sorrel]

is this game dead or whaaaa?

cant find anyone in oregon rare or hr

[jolly snow]

Dead

[mental garden]

i have no idea who approved barb being what it is. squire lobbies are now just barb every game, and we are no longer able to kill them under any circumstances. they'll run with a bard, etc, and are effectively permanently unable to die

[jolly snow]

Just delete game

Play something diff ggs no more complaining

[thorny cosmos]

are items still kept on loss in the hardcore arena they have planned?

[keen mauve]

No you will lose gear upon defeat, that's the "hardcore" part of it

[zinc lance]

Yo, noob player, for some reason I cannot cast natures touch on druid. It keeps saying you cannot use spirit spell, even when i was low hp and playing with a teammate it was saying the same thing. I swear the first day I played it, it was letting me cast that spell is there something Im missing?

[jolly snow]

Cause you have shapeshift

You can’t cast the heals spells only mending grove when you have shapeshift perk

[sudden pond]

lol remember last year when we were talking about when this game might be e-sports ready? 🤣 🤣

[cinder ocean]

how do i set the cpu priority to high for this game? task manager blocking me from doing so, tthx for any help 2 this end

[zinc lance]

Oh gotcha, thanks man!

[prisma star]

best way to beat bladehand with a VERY budget kit wizard?

[slow scaffold]

Restart and go on another class 🫩

[prisma star]

LOL

im in a duo, with a fighter, hes taking agro from bladehand while i spam MM but its proven to be hard

[hardy tiger]

can some1 explain how smite scaling works?

[compact wasp]

IIRC Smite is 10 magical base damage with a 100% scaling ratio
lets say you have a kit that gives you 30% Magical Power Bonus
you would do 10 * (1 * 1.3) = 13 total Smite damage on hit, instead of 10

[final bay]

@glad thunder Look up Hytale, thats how devs should act.

[outer mesa]

which merchants have cosmetics at the end of their questlines

[slow scaffold]

Comparison is the thief of joy.

[compact wasp]

Collector needs an Ancient Stingray Egg for a torch skin
Gobbo has a lobby emote
Tavern Master has a sit emote

[outer mesa]

What’s the going rate for the eggs now converted to raw gold

[hardy tiger]

hmm ty for the response, doesnt seem like building all that much mag power is worth, take what u can but going for 50% just doesnt seem to worth compared to chilling at the easy 25-30%

[outer mesa]

I just got back on after a quitting in November I had enough for religion skin might have enough for egg too

[compact wasp]

oof no clue, prices go crazy when end of season is announced
quest items usually go up a lot while other things fall

[compact wasp]

there are numerous videos on youtube for you to see others take certain builds for a test spin

if you really wanna go high MPB, there's a cleric build that uses a magic staff for its innate magical damage that is an additive bonus for Judgement + Smite
it's not the most popular, as most smite clerics just use Divine Protection as 30% PDR for 6 seconds is insane stat steroid from just a skill

[outer mesa]

Appreciate the help regardless

[hardy tiger]

preciate the help, yeah i have seen a lot of these builds, just new to cleric so wanted to know all the details about how they work, im playing smite DP rn and just hit 20 so im looking to build, really like the morning star with buckler/lantern playstyle

[cinder ocean]

where can i find the class specific channels

[compact wasp]

there's a fun arena player i rly like watching on YT, channel name "Garras y Tinieblas"
he builds for smite + caster cleric and focuses mostly on offensive spells, not dedicated healer

[compact wasp]

honestly your best bet is to go to the class channel on this discord and just be humble and ask
ignore/mute anyone giving you shit for wanting to learn and most ppl will help u get to the right info

[cinder ocean]

right, where can i find the specific class channels.

[compact wasp]

content creators that usually main a role sometimes pop in those chats because theyre known for that class, like Toddfather or Carnage for fighter, Kidneypounder for wiz, etc

oh i'm sorry, i thought u meant YT channels haha

[cinder ocean]

no worries

[compact wasp]

can you try going to Channels & Roles at the very top left of this server?
it's been a while since i last saw how to grab the individual class roles

[cinder ocean]

thank u

[compact wasp]

it's there? nice

[tawny shore]

How does one even use bear form in an offensive manner

[compact wasp]

uh oh that got blocked
ill DM it to u instead idk why it got censored

oh i know which word 😐

IMO you either panther > chicken jump into bear drop or you play spacing rly well
like some classes are just going to kill u immediately if u panther into barbarian from 100 - 0 without trading maybe 2 or 3 hits with bear into panther chasedown while u heal and punish with leap when they drink potion

some weapons just literally cannot hit you when you bear R-click and ur hitbox changes, you can also turn your character to force trades that let you get hit in arms or butt instead of headshot

[sonic maple]

Druid

[tawny shore]

I suppose it balances out how i can never actually hit people with my bear heavy attack

[rapid halo]

How is there no news yet 😔

[compact wasp]

try and use it when ppl are too close because you took advantage of a tempo change or unpredictability
like if you're kiting someone and you've showed ur in panther for the last 10 seconds just spacing, all of us have been punished for chasing a druid and getting headshot by bear R-click

if you're changing into bear and just walking people down, then yeah most people will just play defensively and recognize they can outrun ur range

a bait you can do is also just using spear in human form, ppl forget druids usually have at least 25 STR in a budget kit and a headshot from spear is still good damage
be ready for the chasedown and turn to run and then turn again to punish with bear swipe or R-click if their hands are down to chase u

[tawny shore]

So i really gotta bait the bear swing

[compact wasp]

REVAX and melonhevd are on youtube and have good videos of HR kits where they win and lose fights and give thoughts

[stoic shadow]

hahahahahhaah

Just smack them

[tiny idol]

LAVA MAP

[fallen light]

Are there any asian server players, the dungeons are empty over here..come onnnnnn

[worthy veldt]

Game fixed yet?

[misty urchin]

Second level of water map, gob caves, or third layer of ice?

[compact wasp]

reeeeally hoping its water or gobbo and not 3rd for ice

[pallid hemlock]

GG on the game boys. its over

[rapid halo]

No way I say this and 15 minutes later there’s actually a small piece of news

[misty urchin]

What kind of boss we gonna get with lava map

[compact wasp]

your words have power! like a true dragonborn 😄

[honest cedar]

It's amazing watching druid players

• They specialize in slurping kits and running away
• I can't wait for Season 8 when this class is deleted

[compact wasp]

Graysun seemed confident that "the rat infestation will be cleansed for good"
hopefully we'll see a good fix for that big issue

lmao wait he just added a reaction to that

[honest cedar]

It's going to be crazy!
Half the player population will vanish the moment they can't turn into a rat and slurp kits up.

• Although that type of player will just wait for the next meta class to be built for them

[compact wasp]

speak of the devil 😨

[honest cedar]

I don't think THAT is the real Graysun. I may be wrong

[compact wasp]

i dont think normal peepos can add reaction in this channel

plebbos like us

[honest cedar]

oooou, WOW. Damn!

[plush owl]

!wipe

[snow sequoia]

I haven't played in a while, what's happening to druid?

[compact wasp]

just more of the same, rat/crow gameplay in HR
druid or doublejump rogue because theyre great for mobility after stealing loot

i know it wasnt rly "fixed" back when we had gear brackets, since ppl would just put like 4 epic staves to get in lol

but i definitely have seen more of it this season than last few

[chrome flame]

Real quick, ive been gone for a while and thought the ifrit looked cool, so i am attempting to do an HR game in frost mountain, and im not getting a match after 7 minutes, will it just not put me in alone or something?

[honest cedar]

Don't give me hope, @zinc sparrow

• Don't you do that to me!

[compact wasp]

that's strange, it should put u in after like 30s even if ur alone
can you try restarting client or changing to another server?

[junior thistle]

is there solos in squire to riches yet

[chrome flame]

Yeah I could attempt that, thought there was maybe an update that prevented HR if you cant get a full lobby

[compact wasp]

i can't remember ever reading that personally, are u in a really low pop server like OCE?

[chrome flame]

Na West

I tried different servers and its just not gonna put me in, so im gonna call it, have a good night lads and ladies

[compact wasp]

hope u can try again tomorrow!
pathfinder is rly fast if u do water map tbh

[chrome flame]

Ok that is super good to note, wont keep you long but what is the fastest way to get Ap on that map?

[compact wasp]

they buffed the water map's loot rarity twice in a row this season IIRC
taking treasures (especially gems because they can stack up to 3x and only take 1 slot)

my friends usually dont play HR but i was able to get 2 of them to pathfinder for the ifrit skin just by guarding them while looting treasures 😂

[chrome flame]

Ok that’s awesome, thank you kindly, have a great night!

[compact wasp]

there's a lot of ways to extract so its relatively safe compared to pvp centric maps like gc or ruins
g'night o/

[zealous jewel]

is there a point to doing pvp HR over pve hr beyond artis? is the ap the same

[ashen grove]

dirty druid

[swift grove]

1/4 ap in pve

[snow sequoia]

I haven't played in a long time lol, and I never played HR just norms and trolled most of the time

[ashen grove]

pve hr shouldn't be a thing shits stupid

[snow sequoia]

I would only play hr with warlock and even then I was buns

[ashen grove]

that class has been broken this whole wipe

[snow sequoia]

What part?

[charred fjord]

THey bringing in Dwarfs next season?

[snow sequoia]

I played a tiny little bit recently but I was just getting steamrolled by rogues that were double jumping everywhere

[ashen grove]

https://youtu.be/7y7_bR7rsi4?si=4N_LQlp0_oDnUdUU

ether watch that video or a gameplay of druids

[snow sequoia]

Watching it rn

[copper lava]

Is there a chance that they are going to release a new map?

From the video, it seems they set up a volcano map

[rough dust]

amd card user here, anyone crashing drivers after playing communit annoucement newest post?

just this exact video, everthing else is fine

its workking now, i had to copy link then paste it into my browser and then play and it somehow is now working on discord

amd app things

[nova jetty]

I really hope not. I want all their attention on adding new perks/skills to each class.

[jade kayak]

Give more abilities to Druid so I don't have to be either 10 spell or SS I just wanna QS and be a Support/OffTank.

I hope stepping in that lava hurts a lot, and I hope there's a lava lake with a little island with a loot pile to fight over king of the hill style

[twin hazel]

Is in 9 days New season and reset?

[jade kayak]

I think so

[pallid hemlock]

sorry pal, best we can do is more queues 🤷‍♂️

[finite cliff]

@zinc sparrow Will the druid have a new transformation that will be tailored to next new map and is there a shapeshifter rework planned?

[woven terrace]

So…. Can you guys just delete Ruins & I can go back to running HR trio & duos crypt/inferno spam? I want to crawl the dungeon trying to force fights, not sit in the cringe ruins waiting room

[lean bluff]

Csn't you just head straight to an exit on Ruins?

[prime copper]

If people want to fight they will. I play on OCE SEA where there is barely any fights but still get my fix from ruins pvp. U just have to do a bit of positioning and mind games and you should be able to secure a kill.

[stone root]

honestly? fak new map, who cares. Make druid only be able to use one animal form per raid and delete rat.

[echo mountain]

Druid and warlock really messed up the flow of the game.

[acoustic kiln]

add paladin

[echo mountain]

There's obviously a survivorship bias in here of how people feel about those classes.

[echo mountain]

Hell yeah, I always felt like clerics sanctuary should've created a forcefield and channeled longer.

[sonic maple]

Water map is fun and different

[echo mountain]

I thought It would be cool if there were smaller maps with special events in them like maps for special bosses or just chaotic amounts of death skulls. Maybe puzzle/escape rooms, like platformers with archers everywhere.

[coarse portal]

They can't keep putting new maps out with how low the player count it.

[muted void]

Might be okay if the lava map is the 2nd level of goblin caves maybe

[uncut skiff]

@zinc sparrow still NO info on hardcore arena???????? what does that even mean??????

[brisk mason]

yeah they betterr have other stuff like new perks and skills.

But to be fair playercount will be back up to 10-15k. Ppl overstate the game being dead, its the end of a almost 5 month wipe which is the reason playerbase gets cooked so much. needs shorter wipes

[broken grove]

dog form, he can smell footstep like he have the perk chase

[tawny shore]

Any barb mains here use the dual axe combo a lot?

[coarse portal]

Even with 15k people the game has way too many ques adding more maps wont help that

[brisk mason]

agree, its very likely to be gob caves floor 2. assets look very similar. so its not the end of the world. but a solution for split queues is needed.

[stone panther]

Sir, this is a Wendy's

[mental charm]

Sounds like a skill issue

[brazen pike]

Damn I just watched the clip that sucks, hopefully you also sent a report in-game via ESC > SUPPORT > Report Player

[silver smelt]

send it to community coordinator

[hardy stump]

rewards are low, ap gain is miniscule, you lose gear, extracts are limited, I'm fine with it, I don't think PvE should be a thing at all, but it is what it is and its not going anywhere

[stone panther]

current pve hr is stupid because the rewards are too low versus the effort. No point in dealing with nightmares mobs for some blue loot when you might as well walk around naked in regular blues and get the exact same stuff out of it with way less effort. I can go around fully naked and just a torch in regular blues and comes out with 2k worth of stuff within 10mins. PvE HR with all the nightmare stuff, stupid circle and scrambling for a portal for that same reward level, does not make sense. At all.

like said before, they should separate the loot between pve and pvp modes and up the drop quality for pve hr. Make it drop uniques and everything but make them unusable in regular pvp and non tradeable. PvE enjoyers do not like fighting people. Making their lives more miserable ain't going to increase the numbers in regular pvp. They just leave

[tawny shore]

Man there's really nothing a barb can do without achilles

[hardy stump]

oh no, no, no, no, its not supposed to reward your effort, its supposed to give you enviornment to learn HR PvE without cinder swinging sweat chasing you around

if you wanted to be rewarded for HR, you need to play actual HR

[tawny shore]

In a way i mostly agree. If pve was very rewarding people wouldn't wanna play pvp

[warm nova]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/689857/suggestion-to-improve-wipe-schedule-and-server-reopening

[median shell]

100%

[hardy stump]

You'd be surprised at the amount of PvPers all over bosses and piles in PvE mode actually

[stone panther]

on the flip side. I racked up like 900 hours in reg PvP HR this season because the dungeon has been completely empty due to SDF's vision.

and I hate pvp with a passion. But this pve hr mode is just useless

[tawny shore]

What IS sdf's vision

[stone panther]

Starting a store specializing in light sandal-like shoes

[bold tendon]

new map?

[silver smelt]

indeed

[tawny shore]

anyone know why my game keeps saying "tavern has stopped working" then crashing

[brazen pike]

I think your tavern stopped working

[tawny shore]

Where would i be in life without the DaD discord

[bold tendon]

lmao

[wanton oak]

Ah yes we want more cosmetics thank you so much

[eager trellis]

@zinc sparrow hey one question... why did the HR rewards since season 3 become such a ugly skin or nonsense not even fitting in the game and on top of that nobody really wants them because they are shit... i always play HR thinking oh this time it will be something cool and then BOOM u realese what it is and every single dopamin and excitement is gone.. that i really consider not going through the pain of HR anymore after 7 seasons... because of YOUR SHITTY REWARDS

a FUCKING SASH in ORANGYGOLD OR WHATEVER ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING??? FOR A DEMIGOD GRIND?

A FUCKING SASH?

[hardy stump]

I'm just patiently waiting for when HR will again grant potion skin

[hardy stump]

its actually cool sash

[eager trellis]

just dont bro

[hardy stump]

what? I genuinely like it, will go hot with frost cloak

[eager trellis]

yeah becuse everybody played so many sashes since they came out

it something everyone wants true

[prisma star]

to the 3 man squad we just fought in HR ice caves, you guys were awesome, that fight was amazing if youre here

both my squad mates died though LOL

[coarse portal]

Because demigod grind is extremely easy and you should be happy with what you got. You can get demigod within the first 2 weeks before the market even comes out

[eager trellis]

wasnt like that when the rewards where cool

[coarse portal]

It's always been easy

[eager trellis]

nobody needs an easy HR grind what we need is a really good reward for the grind

[grizzled meteor]

agreed that the rewards are mid but you know you can just play the real game and get it without a "grind" the entire point is jus to get ppl into hr and make them more comfortable w it

[azure kernel]

Maybe it's time

[eager trellis]

maybe showing the reward up front and make it so cool everyone wants it ? maybe that drags more people than making the mode easy and the reward shit?

[grizzled meteor]

wym easy, if anything they should make it more accessible by toning down the number of nightmare mobs

[eager trellis]

wym then its just normal mode

it has to be hard it has to be challenging

whats the point of HR otherwise

[grizzled meteor]

it used to be way more elite than nightmare mobs, pve isnt a challenge anyway its just annoying most of the time

difficulty in this game doesnt come from pve

[grizzled meteor]

geared pvp, good loot, artifacts

[brazen pike]

the cosmetics rewards are pretty nice too

[hardy stump]

it was if you could do inferno

[coarse portal]

Then the grind needs to be really hard

[coarse portal]

Artifacts are over rated. You get more pvp outside of HR. Once you get demigod no need to go back

[onyx oar]

they usually adjust how one earns points late in the season, guess they just want everyone to get the rewards. Not meant for exclusivity.

Hence why arena rewards won't be participation trophies for all the noobs

[grizzled meteor]

except loot in norms is shit and 70-80% of ppl there are timmies and you cant run actual gear which is the point of this game

norms pvp can be fun too but its more like a break not the other way around, whats the point of getting gold and gear if you dont use it

[smoky fable]

W dead game

[sullen urchin]

Loot rates need to get nerfed, the wipes are 5 months long and people are on full bis in the first month of the wipe, and quit after 2 o 3 because there is nothing more to do imo

[grizzled meteor]

that doesn't do anything, the wipes just need to not be 4 months long

There just isn't enough to do in this game

[onyx oar]

Yeah arena should be on full time, 3 day rotation is lame

playing rags to riches for 3 days on and off is forced as hell

[muted pebble]

wipes need to be 3 months everytime

[muted pebble]

yeah loot rates used to be lower like pre patch 70

i remember finding a legendary at it was kinda a big deal

[muted pebble]

gotaa play hr to run any gear worth while and same for the loot

[muted pebble]

hates pvp in dark, i wouldnt even be playing the game at that point

[stone panther]

perfectly playable this season because a lot of the sweats quit HR because all the timmies moved to pve or s2r. It's been completely dead. I see like 1 guy every 10 roujnds or so. Apperently going up against other sweats wasnt fun or something

[muted pebble]

wait really, what server are you on? youre talking about solos right? i played hr yesterday for 2 hours 10pm to 12 and i seen like 3 people every game that was a potential combatant

[onyx oar]

the dudes right, normal and HR pvp is dead. Real PvP combat is about being the most skilled not the most geared.

hence why every kid in uniques will invite you after you smoke em in white loadout

they wanna talk that garbage for still sckin

Also why SSF was a good change for the real PvP

[stone panther]

SSF should be a thing again. But they really need to make that stuff account tied, not character.

@muted pebble Frankfurt mostly. Other than some far far far east 'europeans' in the hours before noon. It's dead on ice

[fringe garnet]

That sash is beautiful