game-discussion

[atomic drift]

i said something along the lines of "if you truly dont care for his opinion why do you keep telling him to be quiet" but instead of be quiet i said sh ut up

and it blocked it lmfao

[graceful storm]

hes trying to rage bait and get the last word like all the small brained people here do. Ive seen it over a billion times at this point

[vapid oyster]

"I'm trying to have a debate but the server won't let me insult you" lol

[muted void]

Mods shoot these guys

[graceful storm]

frr im trying to have an adult level conversation here

[atomic drift]

i mean saying sh ut up isnt an insult, but ok

[vapid oyster]

uh huh

[vapid oyster]

it's also not exactly a "debate"

[wintry fox]

Dude who are you even arguing with. You said you don’t like the game I said I do like the game and you have been going on a rampage ever since. Stop trying to gain “high ground” on this non debate and go do something

[atomic drift]

i wasnt trying to be a part of the debate, i was asking why he was only telling the other guy to be quiet

one of them was trying to argue their point, the other was trying to get him to be quiet

[graceful storm]

c lown boy still going

[vapid oyster]

lol

[wintry fox]

🐟

[muted void]

"Adult level conversation"

[atomic drift]

lmao

[graceful storm]

i was rage baiting him the whole time low key im 10 steps ahead of these small brains

[wintry fox]

🐟

[vapid oyster]

for sure

[atomic drift]

ts so funny ngl

[agile dew]

once the new arena comes out, if i craft/find an item on one character, can i use it in arena on another without losing it?

[graceful storm]

master baiter strikes again

[young vessel]

no it has to be on the character you're playing in arena

[agile dew]

are we serious

[muted void]

[remote ermine]

Its like the old way it used to be when arena first dropped

[muted void]

When we getting arena rewards btw? in the yr 2077 per chance?

[graceful storm]

[wintry fox]

What

[odd pumice]

So according to the wiki most gear pieces can have 100 luck a few able to have 200 luck on it as an attribute. How do you even get remotely close to those high rolls? Most I've ever found is like 46, most I've seen in the market is 50, and enchanting with a gem is normally only like 20-40.

[dire heron]

The amount of old arena bis ive got off people today is insane

[wintry fox]

The wiki is trash

[muted void]

Might depend on rarity? not sure tho

[wintry fox]

Can’t even find info about healing pots on that shit

[muted void]

[sturdy coral]

kinda crazy how much of a nosedive it took but I guess that’s what happens when you rely heavily on data mining

[waxen totem]

What up homies.

New arena changes coming next week saying we can only wear minted.

Is there gonna be a wipe between now and then, or can I already start farming some minted epics?

[manic cliff]

I demand monk class and hand to hand arena

[sturdy coral]

no wipe just change to arena ruleset and leaderboard reset

[waxen totem]

TY. So that sounds like I can start farming the minted epics now then.

[sturdy coral]

definitely. I’m using stuff I had stashed already

[barren holly]

jgriffy was right about yall

[waxen totem]

he just madge cause he's not beautiful like ken

[silver smelt]

1 year of good patches and he might come back

[neat marsh]

For arena, does self found gear count as stuff i have killed people for?

[sturdy coral]

it has to say “Found by YourCharacter” or Crafted by

[young vessel]

if they found it in the same raid you killed them it should be minted by you, like cquinn said tho

[clear pendant]

I think they do this because game is dead, thats why its ssf now so forces you to play the game again, so it will be 1 month till next wipe at least
And maybe its a semi wipe with no content, i would be ok with that if they just improve what we already have

[young vessel]

it's been minted before

[clear pendant]

I know, but its a bit suspicious that they flip flop it now instead of waiting for next wipe

What is the point of a ssf if ppl have tons of lot and can spam crafts till bis?

[young vessel]

good point

[manic cliff]

no, they're adding the Monk Class this season

[azure bronze]

Yea, and theyre adding quivers tomorrow

[manic cliff]

nah, we need monk, not quivers

nobody cares about rangers

[azure bronze]

Both

[azure bronze]

bards and fighters also use bows lmfao

[manic cliff]

its okay dude, you convinced me already

no need to convince me further

[azure bronze]

the fact they havent added quivers already its ludicrous ngl

they literally already have the slot for it

[manic cliff]

yeah, it's a waste of time throwing arrows

[azure bronze]

it would take like half an hour of coding at MOST

[manic cliff]

1 bet 5 premium accounts that monk's coming this season

[azure bronze]

me when multitasking

[manic cliff]

is that the ol pissing in the trash can because of sleep drunkness reference?

[azure bronze]

I drank half a wizard beer

[manic cliff]

Bah, Barbarian Cola's way better

[azure bronze]

Wizard Ale, made fresh on the mountain made by me, and my army of little owls!

We brew it and it's good and it's delicious and it's made of hops that we collect from the praries, the distant praries in the woods.

Coming to a tavern near you except it won't because it's secret!!

[manic cliff]

I have Barbarian Cheese, coming freshly straight out of minotaur milk!

Homemade Cheese

[nova jetty]

Swapping arena to SSF at this point in wipe is so dumb.

All annoyances aside, it really crashed the market and economy 😂

[manic cliff]

wipe when?

[weary wave]

yo anyone tryna buy or trade for my bloodthrist with 2 vig

[little escarp]

what is wrong with this game, with 144 constant FPS 20... each update only makes the game worse

[manic cliff]

it is made with surreal engine

[sonic maple]

Anyone saying we need quiver has no experience in the game and is 90% confirmed parroting something they heard

[indigo valve]

self found count if i bought it from merchant??

[manic cliff]

no, the merchant found it, not you

[woven terrace]

Yo is this game still alive?

[indigo valve]

this game is ass

[willow trail]

as alive as an elder on life support

[dire heron]

Does self found apply to throwables and heals

[smoky jetty]

lag and stutter

[clear pendant]

Is this ragebait?

[indigo valve]

Self crafted counts as self found?

[manic cliff]

No, god put the materials there, you stole it

[indigo valve]

Amazing

[tall girder]

do you get your gear back if you fell into the void in pve mode?

[restive locust]

is the lag and stutter fixed??

[silver marsh]

No

[dark solar]

yo guys, do yall know when's the next wipe?

[indigo valve]

If it’s normals

U gotta buy it back from goblin

[upbeat plank]

Who tf do I lvl up to craft spectral cloaks

[indigo valve]

Tailor

[upbeat plank]

Which affinity to it?

[indigo valve]

125 I think

[upbeat plank]

Okay I’ll give it a shot

[barren holly]

We are a merry band of veteran game developers disillusioned by the exploitative and greedy practices we once helped create. We are experts who have worked on many of the biggest hits in Korea.
We’ve seen first hand how corporate game companies sell their soul for the easy payday. We are disappointed to see them doubling down on more and more exploitative practices, becoming more like casinos instead of bringing joy to gamers.
We’re fighting to win back the hearts of gamers around the world. We believe that by creating games with soul, and by respecting our users we can usher in a renaissance of awesome video games direct from Korea.

[indigo valve]

Self found carries over between character or na?

[sonic maple]

not likely

[indigo valve]

It better

[lusty crow]

yo how do i look at my stats again like how many of specific bosses i killed im slow i cant find it

[bitter pelican]

anyone getting game crashes?

twice in a row bro

[sand sedge]

[manic cliff]

discord job interview?

[sand sedge]

Son 😭 😭 😭 😭

[formal heron]

apparently it doesnt

has to have "found by" tag for ur character

[indigo valve]

no way

where does it say that?

[formal heron]

thats what everyone been saying idk its just what i heard

[indigo valve]

games gonna get uninstalled if i lose this bis i crafted on another character tbh

[formal heron]

i hope its not true but i already sold all my wizard shit i found on my fighter when i found out lol

ye i mean it sounds dumb as hell

[indigo valve]

lol cause like do they want us to only play one character i mean

i know the devs r braindead but dam

[clear pendant]

Dont do it then? Or just uninstall already

You can play others characters, just craft gear with them and gem it

[sonic maple]

Prepare to lose

[indigo valve]

i shouldnt have to do that when i crafted gear w good rolls for another character onna diff character

[clear pendant]

But anyways its a different season

Everybody has the same rules idk why u complain

[clear pendant]

Just imagine ppl that spent 40k gold or more for bis legendary pieces for arenas and now its max epic

[indigo valve]

i dont have to imagine

[indigo valve]

u werent even in the convo brotha

[clear pendant]

Its a public discord lil bro

[indigo valve]

and im complaining bc the changes r dumb

[indigo valve]

nobody was talking to u fam

get some money

[balmy rain]

which merchant unlocks requiem of the fairy craft

[clear pendant]

And nobody asked for your opinion, random

But thats why this discord exists 🤓

[indigo valve]

weaponsmith i think

[indigo valve]

nobody asked for urs either, i was talking to sum1 else

[balmy rain]

ty

[clear pendant]

Then md him like you do with f3mboys stop complaining like a child

Stop crying already u gonna make water map 2

[indigo valve]

get a job buddy 11k hours on rust

[hardy stump]

easy there girls, you're both ugly af

[kind shoal]

artifact arenas please sdf if you dont very bad things will happen to people

[pulsar crag]

Next season Nerd wipe is on the 15th

[manic cliff]

then 16th we'll be monking around

[kind shoal]

artifact arenas sdf now

you do what daddy says sdf

[clear pendant]

Its not a wipe, its just a new season for arenas

[kind shoal]

ARTIFACT ARENAS YOU MF SDF

[fiery pilot]

Whats everyones reason for the count being so low right now

[sonic maple]

Who gives A

[onyx rivet]

for some reason my update stuck on 82%

[clear pendant]

You mean pop?

How many it is, 4k in game?

[kind shoal]

SOOO WHATS THE ARENAS EVENT

IF I PLAY ARENAS RIGHT NOW WILL I LOSE MY KIT

[rancid cosmos]

cant even play arenas

[kind shoal]

THEY HAVENT TOLD US IF THERES ANTE

[rain veldt]

no arenas?

[reef kettle]

THE GAME AWARDS ARE ABOUT TO BE ON GRAHHHHH

[versed dew]

@IRONMACE infinite queue arenas ?

nvm it lasted 6 mins

[indigo valve]

fr

[versed dew]

@fleet imp I reported a bug that's not been fixed yet, should I report it again ?

[wanton furnace]

anyone knows if water map drops egg in pve mode?

[keen mauve]

Yes it drops but the drop rate is lower in PvE

[wanton furnace]

I see, ty

maybe u know the rate difference? actually

[keen mauve]

Not exactly but just know PvE has the less % of dropping hunting loot, normal is normal rate then HR is highest I believe

[wanton furnace]

ok ty

[manic cliff]

HR pve higher than normal

[dire heron]

nothing they lied bet alot of peope spent tons of gold crafting purp kits lol

[real forge]

Does anyone know when wipe will be?

[manic cliff]

15th

of february

[hot gate]

Took a little break and after three ish days of playing duo's I couldn't help but notice my friend and I are hardly running into anyone. We played 4 or 5 goblin matches today and all three levels of crypts twice and didn't come across a single other team. Where's everyone at?

[dense sequoia]

I agree. Like do it at the beginning of a new season.

[formal heron]

is ssf out?

[formal heron]

where u get this?

[pulsar crag]

When is season wipe?

Dec 15 arena season ends
Dec 19 new arena season
When is wipe?

[thorn crown]

personally, I'm not playing until ssf is account based. finding the perfect piece of gear without being able to use it cuz you're on the wrong character feels bad and I don't play games to feel bad

[pulsar crag]

When are we able to use our unique bis in arena

[lethal badger]

Maybe in jan, but just a guess

[silver valley]

Is adventure high roller loot worse than regular high roller?

[timber imp]

yes

[brittle barn]

Nerf wiz when?

[subtle pebble]

guys when is season end?

[fervent anvil]

its about the same as norms

[nova jetty]

just fireball. make aoe less

[brittle barn]

I mean bro explosions do like 70hp to half the classes in the game...

Zap is basically just lesser explosion but slightly easier tospam

[manic cliff]

but harder to aim

[brittle barn]

Which one?

Zap def has an easier hitbox

[zinc abyss]

how does one aquire the in honor of the wardens items?

[timber imp]

oh yeahh arena mode is out

[reef kettle]

same i ran 4 ice caverns back to back and didn't see anyone

[unkempt magnet]

DirectX12 makes game run smoother but temps are high AF, and going back to REGULAR directX11 makes game choppy and stuttery af??? huh. Fix plz

[manic cliff]

Dude's dishing out slave labor with potential to become a milk box wage worker

[bitter pelican]

any moderators in chat??

<@&988703997378584596>

is there someone available i can talk to in dm?

[sullen anchor]

yeah

[vagrant fulcrum]

You can send a modmail via the #discord-help for Discord-related issues, or by DMs

[bitter pelican]

thank you

[manic cliff]

what's better for mage?

true mag or mag power

[subtle heart]

The answer lies within the mage

[bitter pelican]

From Reddit :

You need both to an extent, but aditional/True Magic damage will give you the better power spike.

For your information: Your Magic damage on what you cast with is added to the base damage of your spell(depending on scaling of the individual spell), which then gets scaled by Magic power where as any other piece of gear it gets added on after the scaling.

If you have a 6magic damage staff and a +3true Magic damage ring it goes as follows if I remember correctly: So if a 20 base damage spell gets 100% scaling the staff makes that spell do 26damage which then gets scaled by Magic power (24% on base kit) which would be 32.2 and then you add in your ×3ring which gives us a total of 35.2 damage. You can get +magical damage up to 11 with enchants I think, so the power from that adds a lot, especially on lower damage spells like curse of pain.

@manic cliff

[compact hollow]

@glad thunder less queues plz every mode is dead but squire to riches

[vapid oyster]

you can only get +true dmg on certain items, so you always get true dmg on the items you can, then you get magic dmg on the others that can roll +magic dmg

for example, you can get +true magic dmg on head pieces, so you should get +true dmg on your head slot. You can't get +tue dmg on weapons, but you can get +magic dmg on weapons, so you get that

[compact hollow]

@glad thunder why to rogue to magic?

[compact hollow]

torkable are you seriously?…

…..who is does a low IQ? your saying somebody is go the IQ lower and is maintained it all days?

many day. Hundreds ddays. Infinite days… And they is a smol brain the rex? This is not sense…….

remove intelligence. How many time im can’t play the essay… because it is the low IQ, are to quickly.. ….. stop this nosense i am beg.

[vapid oyster]

[manic cliff]

this is me trying to play mage

[vapid oyster]

bro had a stroke

[wispy pilot]

Are too seriously? ....

how iq you low really?? when intelligence rise to new hights?

When too stroke better for than wizard on pigs.... yes!

magic do iq low you for?? why seriously?

[fervent anvil]

[vapid oyster]

[fervent anvil]

[wanton furnace]

@glad thunder can we get goblin recovery for pve HR so we can practice HR bosses with gear please?

[manic cliff]

Anime Neko Girl Race when SDF

[brittle barn]

Remove mouse form on druid, nerf wiz fireball splash, add back +10% penalty to fighter wep mastery

[wanton furnace]

why is my kit not coming back from pve normals

[manic cliff]

goblin was off duty

[wise turret]

duo normals is literally empty on SEA and OCE lel

[hot gate]

It's empty everywhere

[wise turret]

Arena empty too?

[hot gate]

Don't know, I don't play arenas tbh

[wise turret]

just want some pvp, ran HR. ran normals. cant find a single person lol

[hot gate]

Someone earlier said they're only finding people in Squire to Riches

[wraith hinge]

game is so dead 🙁

[golden pelican]

does spec knight still drop fabric in nm?

[earnest current]

few guy say 1 more month but idk

[wraith hinge]

nobody knows

[wise turret]

how they gonna get player count back up lol

[hazy latch]

Do you believe in time travel?

[clear atlas]

two teams just sitting across from each other on ghost king High roller with a ranger on both teams, is wild and unprecedented amount of ratting, how am I supposed to boss when I'm getting hit by 2 from every angle 😔

[pulsar cairn]

@upbeat cobalt ill croak you kid

[indigo valve]

any1 know when ranger nerf is?

[indigo valve]

yea

[thorn bay]

How players keep queuing solo in trios????

[full creek]

is anyone else getting really bad audio bugs?

[manic cliff]

usually, they mark the ''Do not fill member slots with npcs* box

[thorn bay]

I mean in HR

[manic cliff]

in this case, they mark the ''Do not fill member slots with npcs* box

[graceful tinsel]

rouge is a Low T class

[manic cliff]

Rogue aint no class, just a literal know-nothing but stab unnoticed people, in lore obviously

[velvet dirge]

arena so dead been looking for a game for 30 minutes

[mental temple]

does rogue poison weapon true magic still work, i hit the dummies and i still js get the 1 dmg tick on each stack

[velvet dirge]

i havent even been rated yet

[mental garden]

So do you take the game seriously when you clearly hit someone and the damage doesn't register but you take an arrow hit almost 2 seconds behind when you've moved out of position?

[indigo valve]

Thats why its taking 4 ever

[mental garden]

My favorite part of playing the game is taking arrow hits from people who not only can see through walls, but hit at perpendicular angles through obstacles or while invis

[velvet dirge]

so like i can never play arena on warlock

[velvet dirge]

🔥

[vestal kelp]

ask in the rogue channel you probs getting answers there rather than in game discussion

[molten egret]

wow this is crazy my team is running pesti kumas and scraper and getting teamed on by 4 teams is wild

[velvet dirge]

Lmfaoo

[manic cliff]

no, poison damage is now fix

[charred saffron]

is anyone elses spell wheel bugging out for them too, mine doesn't reset my cursor in the middle of my screen half the time

[elfin fern]

stale game + bad decisions = go to other games

[charred saffron]

yea feels like i gotta move my mouse a mile if i actually wanna get something on the other side of my ability wheel

[brittle barn]

Fireball splash w/spell overload needs to fking go its so dumb

"Oh just dodge the 6 undodgeable spells and if you fail to dodge one youll lose half your HP and fly into the air making the next hit free"

[teal olive]

what is s2r?

[grand swallow]

@teal olive noob mode

[teal olive]

casual?

[grand swallow]

Pvp

S2r is pvp focused but pve

Its semi high roller

I like s2r

[subtle pebble]

thanks

[woeful thunder]

Did they fixed fps issue?

[vague dune]

i dont think so, lagged the shi out of me when start the boss fight

[twilit bison]

Game Updates:

• Upgraded to Unreal Engine 5.5.4, improving graphics quality, performance, and loading/streaming speeds.
• Performance optimizations for The Blue Maelstrom.
• You can change the renderer mode(DirectX Version) in the Options > Video menu.

#📢announcements message

[elfin fern]

people are reporting worse frames after the last patch lol

[twilit bison]

I’m sure the developers are aware of the issue and working on resolving it.

[elfin fern]

surely

[twilit bison]

Gotta be optimistic 🙂

[woeful thunder]

i know that, this update broke fps for me and my friends, everything was working fine and smoothly before "Performance optimizations "

[twilit bison]

I’m sorry to hear that, I know it’s frustrating right now but I’m sure the Developers are looking into this matter!

[ancient flicker]

can someone explain the will nerf from a little bit ago and what it entailed?

[zinc sparrow]

I heard Krampus might be coming to the Dungeon

[sonic maple]

[silver smelt]

King has spoken

[crimson wharf]

Have they changed it so i can mint gear with my other characters for arena and not lose them?

[fluid gyro]

are all players on HR or just no one plays on normal sea map?

[vague quest]

no one plays maelstrom

[wheat iron]

just people solo barnacle smashing on HR

or doing bosses for lols

[silver smelt]

I wonder what arena gear limit will be in season 8.
Epic crafts seems to be too strong compered to normal epics.
So everyone will craft but to craft good gear you need to waste so much time gathering resources.
So average players that have a job will be gear diffed by sweats

Will gear diff be lowered?

[vestal kelp]

Yeah i dont know why they lowered it to epics only, seems unnecessary as even though craftables are often the bis piece ina certain slot you could still get close to it with a good legendary instead. The change to self found is amazing though, just wish they made it account wide and not character specific.

[round ember]

when was wipe

[frozen topaz]

Which server has more people? 🙏

[coral spade]

well it does depend on time

[past gyro]

Bro self found arena fuckin sucks

[silver smelt]

Lol no

[past gyro]

Lol yeah, now hr will just be a rat fest bro cant wait for mfas to hit red cuz they got a nice epic for arena bro

[hearty ginkgo]

Yeah same issue for me, my fps dropped from 50-60 to 20-30

Also its kinda random, one dungeon its stable and the other its 20-30 again

[cyan plank]

sorry any news about the wipe?

[hearty ginkgo]

Nope

[cyan plank]

thank you.

[tropic bane]

anyone else getting a weird bug where you left click to grab something out of a chest and it just drops on the ground? its driving me insane

[brittle barn]

Yeah the game bugs at the beginning of the match & thinks you are holding down CTRL, gotta spam the buttons a bit to fix

[main siren]

how much knowledge is the minimum for warlock to cast everything? (I dont play warlock)

[tropic bane]

i try that and it doesnt work until randomly it starts to work? it makes me think my keyboard is messed up really annoying

[coral spade]

why is lich double cursing still a thing

[brittle barn]

Holy dead game sitting in queue for S2R for like 10m per match rn

[coral spade]

S2R ?

[brittle barn]

Squire to Riches, usually has fast queues cause its one of the most popular modes

[coral spade]

oh

are you able to cancel queue?

cause there is a bug where your stuck queuing into nothing

[brittle barn]

Ye cancelled at the 5m mark and tried again for 5 min

[opal depot]

I can't believe Dark and Darker didn't win game of the year 2025.

Rigged

[brittle barn]

Also fun fact, they made lanterns proc Achilles again, when did they readd that bug...?

[sturdy coral]

doesn’t exactly seem like a bug since rogue poison applies too

[brittle wing]

wait is arena the same rn?

[brittle barn]

I mean they literally removed in previous patch and now its mysteriously back to that way with no announcement..?

Like their wording was literally something like "removed achilles from all throwables except axe type"

AKA frannies

"Barbarian's Achilles Strike are now limited to all melee and ranged physical attacks and bladed thrown items."

I wouldnt say a lantern is bladed, so yes that is 100% a bug

[brittle wing]

ranged physical attacks would include lantern

[brittle barn]

Lantern does not deal damage, so no it would not

That logic would mean throwing torches would include it too which they dont thank god (even though they do damage)

[brittle wing]

W malware

[sturdy coral]

i'm saying if they added a tiny point of physical dmg to the lantern throw it would naturally apply some on hit effects like barb achilles and rogue poison. you may be right that it's unintended but we'll see next patch

[brittle wing]

<@&988703997378584596> yoo delete the malware

[sturdy coral]

try like this

[brittle barn]

That used to be a meta way back to run lantern and achilles with it. It was intentionally removed, so it must be a bug. Im surprised its gone relatively unnoticed since its 10x better than using Frannies

[sturdy coral]

<@&988703997378584596>

[sturdy coral]

they made lanterns much stronger since then, so i guess people aren't as willing to toss them away

[brittle barn]

Can just run a cheap one lol. 20g off the trader if you wanna spam em

Still positive MS versus frannies being -20, also has a much higher veolicity as well as charge up & bigger hitbox

I mean bards and clerics be throwing 500g drums, so

[upper pawn]

[brittle barn]

Just tested, doesnt work with smite just achilles

Shame, was gonna bust out the lantern spam build for arena if proced smite lmao

[sturdy coral]

lol now that would be crazy

[torn glacier]

how do people feel about the game now? still in a super low spot? worth picking up again? havent played since like ice map was added

[wild trout]

game so dead i'm getting the same 5 people in arena 4 times in a row

[dusk veldt]

why do green clothes not get another attribute point but weapons get extra damage

[grizzled meteor]

game is decent rn just very late into wipe and also stuff that was bad early wipe but got fixed so kinda dead rn

[sturdy gorge]

The game is fine but druid and watermap have just nothing to do in it.

[torn glacier]

5k in game rn just on steam? cant be that dead? are most players on steam now or is it mostly thru their own launcher thing still

[grizzled meteor]

Yeah delete druid and watermap. Or keep watermap but never make any queues random again so ur not forced to play it

[sturdy coral]

its like 75% on steam. we are still not at peak for the day yet, currently 3499 in dungeon 3114 in lobby

[sturdy gorge]

The game is nearly empty, u will find mostly hardcore gamer and few noobies.

[sturdy coral]

water map is nice once you get the hang of swimming. having a blast

you really have to use the new blocks or a parry weapon though these mobs are jank

[grizzled meteor]

Not dead dead, depends on your region and also if you play normals it's prolly fine. HR trios p dead tho

[sturdy gorge]

water map is nice but water fights are the worst thing ever. Like everybody suicid on squire to avoid that excentricity.

[grizzled meteor]

watermap just doesn't fit the game at all like it was cool to explore for a few game and looks nice

[torn glacier]

is EU the biggest region?

[grizzled meteor]

But it's just not the same feeling as going crypts and pvping there

[grizzled meteor]

nah NA bigger

[sturdy coral]

that's exactly how you get good at doing it though once you get the animation shifts down it's great

[fervent anvil]

Depends on the time. At mid day on a saturday then prob. At 4am on a tuesday then no

[sturdy gorge]

@sturdy coral no it is not. u may find it cool, but most people hate it. It has nothing to do in this game

[sturdy coral]

wdym it just adds a vertical movement

idk i always felt like the combat in this game comes down to movement. it's very different, but navigating around in water for the best pathing is gratifying

[sharp bramble]

Its fair a barb armored with 328 speed?

people on clothes moves slower than a armored guy, lol

[wintry fox]

Yo chat what if instead of having ruins be a bunch of square tiles it was like an actual castle with a courtyard. Would that even work in this game

[sturdy coral]

it would have to be like a "big" tile like the big circle in crypts

[muted pebble]

wow 5k on a friday morning pretty good honestly

[wintry fox]

I think it would be cool if there was a map like the water map where it’s just one big as static map but not with fucking water in it

[midnight knot]

This game so dead

[hardy stump]

too bad we're going another direction, water map will be randomized in future

[midnight knot]

I’d stop playing this game asap shit is so unorganized they give the players the opposite of what they want pure braindead

With over 1000 hours yeah I’d like to never return to this shit

Gold has no value

[sturdy coral]

1/30,000 a chest wdym

[woeful thunder]

we had stable 200

[smoky jetty]

watermap lags like shiit

5fps at stingray

[earnest current]

This is truly a talent , no game has ever been a sensation for over a year, yet each update resulted in the loss of 5,000-10,000 players. After 101 fixes, the game went from 470,000 concurrent players to 2,000, of which 1,200 were bot scams in the trade market, and nearly half of the remaining 800 were AFK.

[smoky jetty]

and half of the players in dungeon is chinese teamers

atp I should just play duos or trios lol

[earnest current]

Because the entire Chinese group is practically a group-based farming organization, with some groups farming bosses and others farming equipment from other players, and they almost always know who their opponents are, so they don't fight thanks to the recognition cheat in solo mode.they are all cheater not teamers

[weak nova]

hello hello

[smoky jetty]

you are wrong on the boss part, they are mostly too stupid and too bad to boss and wait in big groups to jump you, after you did boss!

I cant count how often I had to 1v2/3s after killing bosses and altough I been reporting many teamers only a few got banned which got me wondering if IM is even checking reports

I wonder in general whats going on at IM right now, we got insane lags on watermap, stingray drops down to like 5fps and they dont seem to care about all that and just let the new content die out like that altough there is actually people to originally enjoy it including me. One of the reasons why the game is dying ...

[earnest current]

The group is divided into smaller teams, not the entire group. New players joining the game are assigned to guard the boss's room, while some groups specialize in hunting bosses. If you see an image of a Chinese team with over a hundred computers but only two people farming PoE 1, it means the game doesn't have bots, so the Chinese team farms in large groups.

[hearty ginkgo]

How the fuck

[smoky jetty]

You should see fighters in full plates lol. They can even break the ms cap underwater with like 50% pdr and catch up to any cloth type class and they call this balanced. Imho plates need extra penalty if underwater cause this doesnt make any sense

[hearty ginkgo]

I just met one with divine sword

My barb got 2hits and i had 30 hp left and got shot by a crossbow in my cloth kit

[smoky jetty]

exactly 😄

[hearty ginkgo]

After that i dont even wanna play this game anymore

[smoky jetty]

they are originally meant to be slow but tanky but somehow this got a plot twist. Addrenaline rush+ sprint is very noobish, especially underwater since its able to break ms cap

[hearty ginkgo]

Im not playing that anymore, lol

Ive tried all classes except for ranger and fighter

[smoky jetty]

well my whole game lags like shiit if I play watermap. I sit in the same boat like you and I actually dont wanna play anymore. I am tired of doing stingray with like 5fps. Aint no way the devs released this update and thought this is a pleasant gameplay experience

[hearty ginkgo]

So true

[smoky jetty]

keep in mind, a update that was meant to be a performance boost lmfao

[hearty ginkgo]

Devs are actively cutting playerbase with each update

[hearty ginkgo]

[smoky jetty]

nobody asked for an engine upgrade lol, it ran so perfect and now it seems like its surely my pcs fault and it just got bad overnight 🤥

seems like I gotta go back to playing cyberpunk loaded in with like 60+ mods and playing it in 4k with at least 60+fps ... surely my pcs fault 🙂

and cyberpunk is a game thats also not known for ideal optimization yet runs more smoother than darker by a long shot

[wintry fox]

What’s up with all these people running plus 2 attribute 1 all blue rings in hr I’ve seen it a bunch

[hearty ginkgo]

Thats called brain issue

[azure bronze]

ive been loading into trios as a solo on the water map to go fight stingray and in the past two games i killed the same duo those poor bastards

[hearty ginkgo]

There is no way that people who still play this game dont have sadistic character or some brain damage

[smoky jetty]

playing with 5fps starts to damage my brain indeed

[azure bronze]

babbabu and guiljng58 im sorry to you two lol

[azure bronze]

The former for me, i 100%ed all dark souls games in every edition for reference

[hearty ginkgo]

Yeah thats NOT okay

[smoky jetty]

na east? seen other chinese teamers there too today, teaming so fucking obviously lol. One even looking for me since I can boss even if I am already outside the zone with my build ... they cant and never will be able to do so. They will sit there in tunnels and have like 30 healing pots and will not leave until game progressed like 70%, hoping I pass by to do the boss

[azure bronze]

yea na east

[smoky jetty]

eu isnt any better either, its even worse. Because not only do people team there, the teamers there run insane gear so you might lose some fights because off gear diff plus 1v2/3+

[wintry fox]

lol it’s funny you guys are talking about Chinese people teaming, my buddy plays in Tokyo servers and istg they are all in a discord server together. The second he kills someone when he has gear on every single raid after it is full bis lobbies looking for him like he has a bounty

[azure bronze]

I play ranger so they couldnt sit there, they tried to but i shot them and they game in the arena, then i just had stingray agro with them approaching and eventually killed both

reset the fight then soloed stingray

what 500 stingray kills does to a man\

[smoky jetty]

Of course, I dont doubt it. I even know what social sides they use lol. They are too stupid to use discord and use some temu discord

I have seen pics of like 20 people in vcs, trust me I know how organized they are

[azure bronze]

They werent teaming, im just playing in trios lobby cuz solos gets insta flooded with people

id rather fight one party myself than 3 separate people

[smoky jetty]

Aint no way you do stingray as ranger tho. I played alot of matches but never seen a ranger actually solo the boss. If rangers appear they usually camp and wait to jump poor people to kill the boss with the noobish true shot that needs a nerf itself underwater paired with longbow if you ask me

[azure bronze]

I literally only play ranger? its easy as hell

[smoky jetty]

okay so you in normals, well there is obviously less teamers. I am specifically talking about highroller, this is where the shiitshow begins

[azure bronze]

Oh yea no highroller is cancer

with the chinese ppl tryna get trident cuz thats like a months pay for em

[smoky jetty]

Id love to see you doing it with spear in hr, by the time you block an attack and recovered from block hes already swinging its tail onto your head

[azure bronze]

I could solo it in hr but pve you got sorcs popping your bubble then icebounding and in actual hr you got those teamers

[azure bronze]

thats why you bring in a basic action speed/dex kit

[smoky jetty]

its not that expensive anymore so I dont get why they even doing it. It dropped down to just 2dbs

[smoky jetty]

Even with 20% you will have issues with spear. Did you do stingray as ranger in hr yet or not? Especially with the lags I doubt that you do stingray in hr with spear

[azure bronze]

Its a fairly easy boss + egg chances

[azure bronze]

I have a few times already

[smoky jetty]

Its easy with practise ... hr is not so easy because you have to really watch out for boubles

and I say its not easy as somebody that killed the boss over 1000 times and secured the worlds first highroller kill. I dont get hit by attacks anymore and if I should die its just because of bad bouble rng, which doesnt happens too often these days

[azure bronze]

hell i actually do it with the nightmare frostwalker skin on lol

[azure bronze]

Thats just presence awareness, still not really hard

[smoky jetty]

with spear its def hard lol and also slow asf

you either wanna go for parrys or penguin

[azure bronze]

Yea your damage goes down because you only get one attack in usually

[azure bronze]

True not the best class for the boss but i like playing ranger so

• makes pvp easier when people try to be annoying and steal

[smoky jetty]

but again its not an easy boss because of one shot mechanics

you can be in the best gear possible, sometimes you just die, it can happen

now with the new bug its worse, because stingray has like 5-35fps

[azure bronze]

Yea, but theyre pretty easily avoidable so just pay attention and dont bring in uber gear. As long as you can survive bubble length at end youll be fine from what ive experienced

[azure bronze]

Honestly the change made the boss easier to me not harder because the hit detection got way better

[smoky jetty]

huh

[azure bronze]

Only thing i was getting hit by anymore was the big tackle because how shitty the detection was, but that seem to get fixed after they switched to unreal 5.5

[smoky jetty]

so you wanna tell me its easier with like 20fps

alright lol

[azure bronze]

Fps is still awful but the hit detect is better so

[smoky jetty]

Its not "still" awful, its just now insanely bad. Before I had 60fps+ always

I literally get now headache from farming the boss for longer than 2 hours

[azure bronze]

Yea fps is terrible but you dont really need 60+ fps to fight a boss. It looks horrible but its still easier to do the boss for me

[smoky jetty]

you make no sense here, how is that easier?

[azure bronze]

Unless fps gets down to some absurd number like 8 fps the boss isnt much harder then 60+ fps, it just looks awful

[smoky jetty]

not to mention that its not pleasant to play like that

[smoky jetty]

It is insanely harder because your movements are delayed because of the lags, what are you even talking about? so you not doing the boss

[azure bronze]

Hit detection actually affects gameplay, fps doesnt unless it gets super low. Fps doesnt make you get hit my something that shouldnt hit you, hit detection does. Idk how this is confusing

[azure bronze]

Lag and low fps arent the same thing what

fps was terrible, like 20 fps, but that isnt what lag is

i never said i was getting lag

[smoky jetty]

according to your words the boss is the easiest with 1fps

[azure bronze]

I didnt say lower fps made the boss easier, what are you talking about

[smoky jetty]

dude what, you literally said that

[azure bronze]

i said the better hit detection from switching to unreal 5.5, at the cost of fps going down

[azure bronze]

are you actually not reading a single thing ive said holy shit

[smoky jetty]

keep sitting at boss entrance and jump people with true shot that killed the boss 👍

[azure bronze]

Dark and darker players when they have the reading comprehension on a toddler

god damn man i said hit detection better fps worse, so boss easier but looks bad. Lower fps doesnt make the boss easier nor is lower fps what lag is. Seriously what the hell are you even talking about

[floral hedge]

game dead hr na is all asian teammers

[sterile wadi]

Strongest duo classes rn?

[silk sentinel]

Anyone know what merchant crafts spec cloak and what quest needs to be done for it

[misty quail]

how much additional armor before i should start building %pdr?

[alpine jacinth]

WHAT ARE ALL THESE BUGS?!? I just used a surgical and after it finished i could only move - I could not draw any weapon or use any item - and then obviously the other player just kills you, instead of showing mercy as there is MOST obviously something wrong

[alpine jacinth]

it is quite balanced out and only at the high end %pdr is really helpful - like when your armor already puts you around ~50%

[alpine jacinth]

its the tailor and you need at least 150 reputation with him - that means you have to finish all the way until you finished the "Incognito" questline (last quest "infiltrating with accessories")

[sweet sandal]

This performance is gonna make me use Reddit config again I got rid of it cause they said better performance huge mistake

[nocturne sierra]

aegis price ?

[reef kettle]

is it just me or are the PVE lobbies way more populated than the PVP ones?

[hardy stump]

just you, people in PvP lobbies kill each other, so you don't see as many, and HR is dead mode

[reef kettle]

ah

i just thought it was a little weird that i haven't heard or seen anyone in the last like 5 matches

maybe its just my freaky schedule

[signal sundial]

Yup PVP has become the primary way people play

[reef kettle]

i mean PVE is more enjoyable generally

at least in my opinion

[signal sundial]

I tend to agree because I play with casual players in PVE but I love me some arena, and I also kind of love that it isn't avaible all the time as I know I would burn out on it

[reef kettle]

i just realized i've been saying PVP and not normals 😭

[signal sundial]

Oh sorry I meant PVE is the primary way people play, was typo.

[reef kettle]

i've been saying PVP instead of normals lol

i completely forgot the arena exists

[signal sundial]

Lol yeah I mean it is more descriptive of what you are doing

[reef kettle]

i haven't seen a single player in normals in the last 5 or so matches

[signal sundial]

Normals doesn't make alot of sense in the context of dark and darker as it could mean too many things

Try gobo caves

[reef kettle]

at this point "normals" seem to be a better descriptor for PVE

[signal sundial]

Not to anyone who hasn't seen or played anything dark and darker before or lives under a rock when it comes to extraction games

PvEN and PVEH and PVPN and PVPH would probably be the best terms,

Player vs environment normal/hardcore
Player vs player
Normal/hardcore

[silk trench]

Is dark and darker worth playing right now

[signal sundial]

Depends on what you want to do. If you have zero experience and want to do the PVP it will be hard to pick up and just play. If you want to fight cool monsters that can be frustrating then yes definatley

[azure bronze]

Bruh stingrays gun thing is annoying why is it randomly hitting sometimes

[reef kettle]

if you want to do PVP just wait till the next wipe

[signal sundial]

100% otherwise you have to get an arena kit and play areas which if you ask me is alot of fun with friends but seriously lacks when doing it solo

[loud moat]

Depends what interests you

If you want to play a fantasy aesthetic overwatch type game then sure

If you want to play tarkov with swords then no

[azure bronze]

Okay seriously did they change this

for some reason its constantly hitting me today with both shots even though im moving to the side

[silent dove]

Is there anyone that is good at diagnosing PC probs? Long story short, this last DaD updated screwed up something. Everytime i launch the game, my PC crashes. Literally every other game i have loads up just fine. Ironmace Tech support has been no help

[manic cliff]

Dark and darker is a one of a kind game, other games run smooth on mine, but dark and darker runs 40-50ish on goblins, ice cave and forgotten castle, the only one that runs 60+ is the watermap

[silent dove]

Mine has typically run fine. Ive been playing this game for 2 years straight, never had a problem until this last update. Like i cant even get to a title screen. It begins to boot the game, then crashes

[manic cliff]

sounds like a memory problem dude

i had this sorta problem back in Epic Games DaD, which i had tested, and Steam's not

[silent dove]

which is crazy because my GPU is a Radeon RX 6700 XT with 12 GB memory, and my PC has 32GB or memory

[manic cliff]

try using something like Razor Game booster to disable unnecessary stuff before running the game to see if it solves or remediates something

[orchid torrent]

smh I learned bladehand HR, killed him 15 times and every time I go out I see some barnackle farmers with better loot than me. lock in IM what is that

[fair yacht]

hello anyone know when next reset is?

[orchid torrent]

TLDR: I'm making a good kit, kill one of the hardest bosses in the game over 15 times and not 1 time did I have better loot than the basegear druid breaking wood in the ocean

[reef kettle]

only time will tell

[plush grotto]

So we're going to be punished and not be able to play with friends for being to good at arena? XD

[analog summit]

bladehand already ate all his treasure

[manic cliff]

yeah

[azure bronze]

seriously what the entire fuck happened to stingrays gun

[manic cliff]

i love barnacling, they game so much loot

[azure bronze]

Ever since a few hours ago its been only getting headshots despite me swimming sideways what the fuck

[formal heron]

Does anyone know if crafting items on my fighter will count for SSF on my wizard?

[analog summit]

it will not

[formal heron]

What about items found on my fighter? do those count? or needs wizard name in found by tag?

[steep dew]

are there arena rewards this season ?

[analog summit]

character name not player name so

[formal heron]

so u think neds to be specific for each character???? can anyone confirm this cuz this sounds so stupid

not saying you are stupid, im saying the change, its so dumb if it is truly like that :((

[balmy rain]

Yes each character has their own mint and yes it is stupid

[formal heron]

What kind of shit change is that man, it should just say "found by [account name]" instead of each character then

[hardy stump]

if it doesn't have characters own name, it will be lost

[formal heron]

so lame, thanks all for the clarity at least ❤️

[balmy rain]

Add it to the list lol

[formal heron]

That's so dumb because if i find good gear but dont happen to be on X character then it's useless for arena like ffs

[main flame]

when is wipe

[analog summit]

yepp expressman is enemy here

[knotty kernel]

Haven't played the game in a while, and want to know if it is in a decent state to get back into.

is SDF still cooking or did someone finally drag him out the kitchen?

[steep dew]

are there arena rewards this season ?

[modern tide]

hello guys, i have an issue " An error has occured. code :21 " anyone know how to solve it ? i play on steam and cant open the game

[formal heron]

hes still cooking absolute shit brother u didnt miss much

[knotty kernel]

well thanks for the update, i will try a match or two.

[echo lake]

just got wiped by the game after a server disconnect. all gear gone. happened to any of you?

[silver smelt]

yo dungeon looks sick after last update

[waxen hemlock]

perpendicular alphabetical soup?

[dark raft]

yo how i can transe my acc for epic to steam? but at epic DnD in block

[rocky vine]

guys how do i turn my HUD back on in game help pls 😭

[twilit bison]

Try your F10 key.

[faint zephyr]

Anyone else having issues with the client?

[twilit bison]

When I have this problem I usually force restart my game through the task manager!

[faint zephyr]

Yeah, I am doing the same. Keeps tanking on me. lol

[twilit bison]

That’s interesting possibly try restarting your PC?

[faint zephyr]

I force quit steam and got a update prompt

[twilit bison]

🙌🏻

[shy badger]

@zinc sparrow you guys need an event that is crypts only. take out all the other maps for this weekend

give the players some pvp

[vapid oyster]

they should do that but permanently lol.

[weak nova]

Hello

I have a technical problem with the game

[faint zephyr]

Nope same issue, lol

[weak nova]

The game won't launch when trying opening it from steam in linux

[stable merlin]

please add 0-25 back i dont want to fight 300gs players anymore

[vapid oyster]

https://www.protondb.com/app/2016590
would read and try some of the tweaks in the comments if you haven't already

[weak nova]

Ty i'll try it

[tiny girder]

Go in squires to riches

There are too many queues already

[low kelp]

When is wipe?

[bitter pelican]

ive been getting unreal engine crashes

lost a crazy kit

[weak nova]

tried it, didnt work. the problem i'm getting is:

wineserver: NTSync up and running!
wine: failed to open "c:\windows\system32\steam.exe": c0000135
chdir "/mnt/seagate/Programs/Steam/steamapps/common/Dark and Darker"
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/unknown/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
Game Recording - would start recording game 2016590, but recording for this game is disabled
Adding process 46952 for gameID 2016590
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/unknown/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/unknown/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_64/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/unknown/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/unknown/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.

it worked fine in windows

but linux nah

[indigo valve]

Just send sdf thanks

[weak nova]

sdf, wdym by that?

[vapid oyster]

completely remove map selection/rotation. Stack all the maps vertically so you always start on ruins and you can just keep going deeper in the dungeon. Increase loot quality every level deeper and remove some of the stupid useless stat rolls so on s2r by the time you're on level 3-4, you're running an actual kit

also remove the shitty free exits

[vapid oyster]

ya idk, it's not officially supported on linux and there's comments on the protondb page saying it often breaks on updates, and we get updates every other week, sometimes multiple updates

[quaint phoenix]

where are all the players at

[vapid oyster]

oh also the last update was an update on the actual game engine so I'm not surprised it's broken tbh

[weak nova]

hhhh how unfortunate

[gusty kettle]

Whats with the gear changes to arena? Allowing only self found kits makes the experience much less fun for casual players. This is why I stopped playing months ago. Arena brought me back, and this gear shift will drive me away again. DEVS, Please stop ruining this game!

[barren holly]

We are a merry band of veteran game developers disillusioned by the exploitative and greedy practices we once helped create. We are experts who have worked on many of the biggest hits in Korea.
We’ve seen first hand how corporate game companies sell their soul for the easy payday. We are disappointed to see them doubling down on more and more exploitative practices, becoming more like casinos instead of bringing joy to gamers.
We’re fighting to win back the hearts of gamers around the world. We believe that by creating games with soul, and by respecting our users we can usher in a renaissance of awesome video games direct from Korea.

[subtle heart]

whatever shordy jus timed my mans out come to tavern bar I wanna pop my shi

right now ho!!!!

[clear atlas]

some people are just toxic T.T they find you kill you and leave everything so the entire thing was pointless

[faint zephyr]

I keep getting a crash message after extracting. lol

[gilded stirrup]

How can I craft frost light riveted/lightfoots? got my affinity up with the leather smith but he doesn’t offer the craft

[indigo valve]

Only other one would be tailor

What’s ur leather smith affinity?

[wintry fox]

What affinity you at

Also remember you gotta wait for the vendors to reset to see a change

[wild trout]

they gotta revert this arena change playing solo q at 2.3k in actually miserable

[analog summit]

they make it so you want to change class to keep playing arena but then need to make find more gear again to do so

[weak nova]

Finally it worked @vapid oyster

My games were on my external ssd, and it seems that the symlink were corrupted.
I had to change the games location to the steam library in linux and then delete compatdata of the game 2016590(id)

[vapid oyster]

glad to hear it

[celest cloud]

It's not toxic to pvp in a pvp lobby. Play pve if you don't want to pvp.

[vapid oyster]

1. play pvp game
2. encounter pvp
3. how could this happen to meeeee

[bitter pelican]

lol

its crazy cuz i never see these types of complaints when it comes to tarkov

[clear atlas]

its toxic to find people in boss rooms to kill them just to leave knowing full well you out gear them.

[vapid oyster]

no it's not

[clear atlas]

it is, how is it not toxic to kill people just for the sake of killing them and nothing else? isnt this a extraction game? surely its not just a pvp game and thats the only focus.

[vapid oyster]

it's not, it's how the game works, play a game that' doesn't have gear

[bitter pelican]

its a risk to let people live, mayev he killed you checked ur loot and realised it wasnt worth it

there is a limted amount of extracts so ofc he would kill you lol

[clear atlas]

he deliberately hunted me down across the room and map to kill me when I was in blues and he was in legendarys and uniques after I stopped bossing.

[vapid oyster]

oh no

[bitter pelican]

how owuld he know?

[clear atlas]

its looks different, theres visual clarity lol

[bitter pelican]

also you killed a boss, hes in there to get loot, maybe he killed you to get that loot and realized you didnt have what he wanted

when you que into a pvp mode you take the risk of running into pvp

[clear atlas]

if hes there for the loot, then all he did was kill me grab nothing from all of it didnt even go down for marvelous or pile and just left.

[vapid oyster]

play pve mode lol

[bitter pelican]

maybe he jsut wanted to pvp and kill people for fun? is that wrong?

[clear atlas]

im not going to when the best loot is locked in pvp.

[clear atlas]

not necessarily, but its the way he went about it.

[vapid oyster]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

you want to farm, play farm mode

[bitter pelican]

the game is unforgiving its in the description

[clear atlas]

doesnt mean it has to make it nigh unplayable without getting jumped 😔

[bitter pelican]

ofc it does wdym???? you cant expect everyone to be friendly, its actually against the rules in HR

[clear atlas]

ik that, I just expect some form of, idk, mutual respect to not kill eachother while boss is alive? or to hunt the moment you hear a single sound of a player as if your forced to gravitate towards them?

I already got two rangers across from me on both sides on ghost king, and they never killed eachother, never did boss, only just shot me to death and left me there, its horrid gameplay.

[celest cloud]

I'm sorry sir but I don't know what you have on or what in your inventory until your dead. Again. Ironmace made you a nice pve game mode so I'm not sure why players like you don't just play that.

[vapid oyster]

they even made a HR pve mode lol

[celest cloud]

These pve kids are unbearably dumb. They just want a reason to cry.

[vapid oyster]

literally just being a child

[clear atlas]

its not exactly worth going through when its hard to get good loot there and theres 3 scavengers with full resorcefulness kits looting the pile after you kill boss.

[vapid oyster]

so you want a single player rpg lol

consider bg3, it's great

[clear atlas]

idc about the pvp aspect, I just care that people are THIS desperate to fight eachother that they will run towards you through 8 modules and kill you then leave everything.

[silver smelt]

do semi wipe so people won't complain about arena change 🔥

[graceful storm]

are you new or something what are you even complaining about that is the whole game

[celest cloud]

Again boss. No one knows what you've looted until your dead. How am I supposed to know you didn't loot a skeleton corpse and find a unique ring with all atts

[vapid oyster]

pvp is the fun part lol, literally no idea why you would play this game and not pvp

[clear atlas]

if im at boss in the first minute of the round and my gear is visually the lowest quality, of course I got nothing T.T

[analog summit]

complaining about dying to people in game is crazy work at this point in time

[clear atlas]

ive been playing before this game was a torrent file after it was removed off steam so its been a while.

[vapid oyster]

playing this game for the pve is absolutely confusing af to me, it's trash

[celest cloud]

That's such a bad take. I've found absolute biz instantly in rounds before and so have you unless your THAT bad

Probably why your poor lol

[clear atlas]

its just a different style, some people like fighting people more, I like pve more.

[clear atlas]

im not even poor...

[vapid oyster]

like just bonking the same braindead enemies that spawn in the exact same places over and over, why

[graceful storm]

has this never happened to you in all your time playing? its pretty normal experience. Complaining does nothing, you can either learn to love it, or move on

[celest cloud]

Then why run blue kits in hr?

[clear atlas]

it is, but it just gets worse and worse, ratting is getting more annoying as the game goes by and more prevelant.

[clear atlas]

im running squire normally because I make more via that way?

[celest cloud]

Your delusional. The ratting is sooo much worse at the beginning of wipe.

[clear atlas]

hell no

even if it is worse at the beginning, it feels much worse later on when everyone is in full BIS and ratting at the same time.

[graceful storm]

any extraction looter that has or will exist is going to have rats, its unavoidable its a valid strat as cringe as it is. Its part of a looter extraction

[vapid oyster]

like how you're been in here since 2023, how can you possible think killing ghost king is still fun

[celest cloud]

Obviously youve never killed someone in an actual biz kit. That's the fastest way to make gold bud not running around looting.

[vapid oyster]

blows my mind

[clear atlas]

you cant kick me down for liking something just because you dont like it xD.

[graceful storm]

theres no way that dudes been actively playing since 2023 and is talking like this

[vapid oyster]

it's just the exact same every time and doable in squire gear, it's easy and boring

[clear atlas]

I have, ive killed artifact people, yea its the fastest way to make money, im not arguing that killing people is a waste of time, im arguing KNOWING someone has nothing yet chasing them down is a waste of time, they dont even check my body so they deliberatly dont care about what I have.

[celest cloud]

Are you not trying to kick the people who enjoy pvp down?

By crying about it when they pvp you?

In a pvp game mode

When the devs have given you a game mode without pvp

[graceful storm]

if youre in a really good kit youll kill anyone who might even try to take it from you, ever thought about that

[clear atlas]

its not my fault the devs decided to make the pve mode give worse things than pvp just so the pvp people can kill anyone in the pvp lobby and loot nothing

[celest cloud]

Delusional. No one know what you have til your dead bro. Have you not played the game? Is this some kind of hard body bait?

[graceful storm]

okay this is getting cringe im outty bois

[celest cloud]

This is true commitment to a bit

[clear atlas]

Hugh your not getting what im putting down, they ARENT LOOKING AT MY BODY. they DONT care about the loot.

[vapid oyster]

everything comes down to you want to play a multiplayer game by yourself lol, just goofy af

[celest cloud]

So your saying they kill you and don't even check the body? I called bs buddy

[clear atlas]

its not BS Ive watched it happen so many times im going to tweak out from it.

[celest cloud]

I'm out of here this is obvious bait and I've taken it for too long

[clear atlas]

why isnt goblin merchant in HR anymore? I wouldnt complain then but they wanted it to be more unforgiving.

[celest cloud]

No one is this dumb

[vapid oyster]

[clear atlas]

now your just resorting to insulting me my guy

[graceful storm]

you deserve it lowkey the way your talking

[celest cloud]

Your insulting yourself man you don't need help

[graceful storm]

im outty fr

[celest cloud]

Your embarrassing your entire bloodline rn

[clear atlas]

yall wild xD

[hushed tide]

i get what ur sayin ive had the same issue, sadly just gotten used to it

im lucky if they even loot my pots lol

[clear atlas]

if they added goblin merchant back I wouldnt even be here complaining tbh xD, although the ratting part id still complain, still hate getting poked by 2 rangers in a boss room in solos as they leave my dead body and dont do boss.

[sonic maple]

arena is a cowards gamemode

[hushed tide]

felt that fr idk why they got rid of goblin merchant

[sonic maple]

but then you cant sell bad gears because everyone just merchants their bad sets back

[clear atlas]

thats a fair reason ngl, but nothing stopping said people from taking the loot so they dont get it back, if they either sacrifice the market price or they take it I feel.

otherwise you have situations where two rogues in BIS kits killing eachother with poison at the same time and losing all of it to the storm.

[fleet surge]

Thats a good thing screw rogues

[sonic maple]

as they deserve

[clear atlas]

I wont argue with that xD

[sonic maple]

ok maybe we hate rogue

[fleet surge]

Rogue is just an annoying class to fight. Its either a landmine or mosquito

[manic cliff]

i want monk class

[sweet sandal]

I get killed in HR and I click to watch death cam then I instantly crash I am upset

[thick gust]

do you at ironmace not care at all about the 1 in 10 who builds kits for their friends; who don't care at all? about the game?

I built my friend 3 different fighter kits so he could understand how much the stats really mattered; now if he ever logs back on he trades it back to me or vendors it?

[silk trench]

Is dark and darker work playing right now

[sturdy coral]

what? it’s gonna wipe in like 4 weeks

[sweet sandal]

What made you leave the game? What was new when you last played?

[silk trench]

Water map played for 2-3 weeks realised nothing overall changed then left

I have around 600 hours so i wouldnt say im new but not a long time player

[sturdy coral]

the water map is definitely different but it’s fun once you get the hang of it

[reef kettle]

are there any dark and darker wikis that actually get updated? or is there just the outdated one

damn

[sweet sandal]

nothing has still changed so you should stay away if that’s what made you leave

[sweet sandal]

Just the outdated one unfortunately

[keen pecan]

friday night, arena, and 2k players in dungeon

gg

[inner token]

anyone care to explain why the cyclops wasn't doing anything? like its AI didn't do anything

[real forge]

Can someone give me a good BOC LOCK build?

[runic harness]

Is wipe day the 19th? Or is that just an arena change

[silk egret]

is this the game thesedays ? even teamers on duo games XD

[long vector]

is this game actually finally dead or is it oging to come back next wipe

[brave scarab]

does anyone know a good build against warlord to destroy him? I was thinking like headshot dmg bonus and armor pen? I don't know where to look for boss stats and stuff

[real forge]

Its pretty much dead

[warm locust]

does anybody know how to find human remains

[brave scarab]

its in the prisons in inferno

if you go through the cage its on the left side, if you come from the side with the big chest its on the right

[warm locust]

is it a low spawn rate?

[silk thicket]

yeah I cant find them

[keen lily]

D

[reef kettle]

i've been killed by the same guy on goblin cave TWO TIMES

[silk thicket]

Is this guy in the room with us now?

[vapid oyster]

holy fuck, twice!

[reef kettle]

hoping i can go for 3 times

[elfin fern]

daily reminder to fucking delete purge shot

[queen pendant]

Anyone have a fix for the flashbanging hydra bug this patch?

[reef kettle]

rangers are annoying asf 🥰 🥰 🥰

[brittle barn]

Any1 else getting horrible desync rn? Like if im within 20ft ofa skelly archer its undodgeable rn lol

[vapid oyster]

im on a really nice PC and I get really bad stutters any time a skelly wakes up, a spell gets cast, a team spawns in, etc

[brittle barn]

Also would be awesome if blocking required blocking the attack on the attack animation. Kinda lame getting blocked after you hit the enemy cause they start blocking and drag into it AFTER theyve been hit. Really exaggerates the desync problem

[smoky fjord]

i get an error code whenever i try and open the game and theres no fixes for it is there anywhere where i can put in a support ticket of somekind?

[hardy juniper]

yea #metoo

[vapid oyster]

it's just kinda how attacks work, you can swing and hit multiple targets, you can thrust through a person and clank on the wall behind them, hit at target and then hit their shield etc

def the worst is losing a fight because I stab someone and clank on the wall behind them

[brittle barn]

Yeah problem is that window gets extending 2-3x as long cause the lag @vapid oyster

[obtuse agate]

Is religion luck still 40 or did they nerf it to 30?

[open temple]

So why is my update for this hotfix 13 gigs?

[reef kettle]

its 30 i think

yeah 30

[smoky fjord]

theres so much hate in all of your hearts no remorse no vitality

[hardy juniper]

i get an error code whenever i try and open the game and theres no fixes for it is there anywhere where i can put in a support ticket of somekind?

[brittle barn]

But yeah hitting walls through your enemy or directly behind you is pretty fkin stupid too

[reef kettle]

the only hate i have in my heart is for SDF

[queen pendant]

Try entering task manager and closing something called tavern worker

[gusty sentinel]

people simply dont want to play against druids thats why the games dead

[nova jetty]

Spectral Blade is far too strong.

[vague quest]

did you get parried? lol

[nova jetty]

I have been. I've also been parrying others. 5% Action Speed and 10% Headshot damage is overkill.

[smoky fjord]

twin its not enough also tavernworker aint even around it only shows up when the error comes up. is dark and darker even available to run on ARM systems or no? becasue i have like 300 hours on a different device

[tardy needle]

game ded

[solar cosmos]

Bro, they need to nerf this ancient bullshitray.
I already killed that shit 20+ times and don't drop that stupid egg.
Also, that boss is completely RNG, and they need to nerf the damage from the bubbles

[brittle barn]

Also, can we pls fking fix Warlords boss room to not have that weird little lip around the center circle? Pretty dumb that if you step on it during the horizontal swing you get garaunteed hit

[swift grove]

if you're having trouble with bubble damage, build for more healing and magic dmg reduction. if you think the boss is RNG, try being more consistent in your viewing angle of the boss when you attack or do better facing the boss to put bubbles where you need them.

or just play sorc and iceblock the phases like god intended

[honest kernel]

anyone know when the next wipe will be? 3k pop is miserable

[nova jetty]

Fireballs need to be adjusted.
Damage + Anti Heal + Melt + DoT for hitting where I WAS, not where I am. Miss-for-success spell.

[brittle barn]

Also for the love of god can bows/cbows get a more severe velocity dropoff on water map? Fighting a ranger on water map is impossible rn

[mental garden]

remove gravity from all maps

[graceful storm]

remove gravity from all maps and make all maps ice caves

[rapid lava]

How are trades supposed to be done if the item is worth more than two chests?

[tired pike]

what are the mandatory longsword fighter perks

[versed dew]

dbs I think

[nova jetty]

Fireballing the ground and effectively missing should not reward you this much.

[mental garden]

the splash damage is 10

[nova jetty]

base + scaling + dot + true + melt + antiheal + displacement/knockback + damage around shield + damage around corners

all for missing.

its 6 balls of guaranteed damage and debuffs. and that AOE dmg scales heavily.

[dusty coral]

Windows cannot find C:

Program Files\ IRONMACE\BLACKSMIT\BlacksmithBoostrap.exe

tried everything lol anyone ever had this issue

[indigo valve]

Trustworthy middle man

[chrome blaze]

does Cooldown reduction work on tangled threads ?

[tired pike]

fix your game please my sword swings should not be phasing through the enemy bard in melee colliding with nothing while he kills me with 70 rapier attacks

[manic cliff]

wipe when? 15th?

[arctic ledge]

i am taking hand outs

shadowfang121123 in the trading hall i am taking handouts

[vestal silo]

What is the easiest class to get demigod on pve(in your opinion)

[tiny girder]

Warlock

Flamewalk + phantomise

[vestal silo]

Any particular build?

[tiny girder]

Torture mastery perk

• vampirism

Curse mastery

[tacit totem]

any1 having an issue with the game constantly crashing??

[tiny girder]

Yea the newest update suck

[tacit totem]

so its not just me then

i crashed 3 times in 1 arena game

[tiny girder]

Less fps more freeze screen

Nothing work

[tacit totem]

RIP D.A.D

[blazing valve]

is spectral bag craft not a 150 affinity anymore?

[light forge]

do you lose your gear in arena?

[zinc ridge]

is arena still bad?

[glass shoal]

Hey i start playin in 3v3 after a long time playin in solo can anyone give me good comp to try and which role as which class (one of my friend is a bard addict so comp with a bard ) thx for the reply 😼

[light dock]

yes

[brittle barn]

Is it me or are the servers so fucking bad rn

Worst desync ive seen in months

[light dock]

i switch to tarkov no more dad this year

[elfin fern]

balance is bad
framerate is bad
lag is bad

[idle blade]

How long does my gold or stuff last in the shop in terms of if I left it in there and took a break

[brittle barn]

Like water map is nearly unplayable...

[elfin fern]

water map was already unplayable

[light dock]

drowning escene sim

[brittle barn]

I love when I buy a bandage how theres a 2s delay between me clicking buy and it popping up in my invo case the servers are shitting themselves

[idle blade]

Also is the religion rewards over or can I still donate

[brittle barn]

Which theres some real irony in poor server performance when youre at the lowest player pop youve ever had...

[left oriole]

just download any tip here?

[sick marsh]

tripple cleric kill spectral night party

[coral ruin]

Thinking about getting into this game, is it any good?

[devout cloud]

What’s y’all’s rating In arena ?

[graceful tinsel]

Rouge is a low T class

[lunar rock]

1200

[vocal orchid]

hey guys wondering if anyone can circle on a map the areas i can find the large spiders in goblin caves please I've tried searching online as well as running through with no luck

[keen mauve]

https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/GoblinCave-5x5-01-N

Stone Graves B is where you wanna go for giant spiders

[elfin rose]

@glad thunder Bro you give locust swarm to clerics , Lightning storm to sorcerors, And Din of darkness to bards.... Where the Fuck is my Wizard BLIZZARD SPELL >?!?!? Like for real no AOE spell cmon bro

[nimble prism]

@glad thunder SSJB has been cheating on US west duo servers for a while now. Please do something about this.

Hide rogue SSJB

[vocal orchid]

thank you so much ^^

[hallow pivot]

The whole chat is just talking about bugs and balancing and the devs don’t give half a shit

[nimble prism]

They never have lol ^ they don’t listen to the community. Ever.

[hallow pivot]

And sdfs chasing his space fantasies when we’ve got problems on the ground alone

Like fk you dude I loved this game

[shy badger]

really 6 of y'all teaming in HR when the game is already dead

[earnest current]

Bargain and turn into spider inside locked room can't go out this game can't give player anything they need they just do some shit they want

[halcyon flame]

When Wipe?

[drifting pawn]

did they get rid of pve yet?

[muted urchin]

JJC 3000 fighter, who wanna play

[lethal badger]

No news yet but guessing January!

[lethal badger]

Not yet

[drifting pawn]

are they going to?

[hardy canopy]

We have no information beyond what the public has, so no idea.

[grand harness]

if you don't die to someone but want ot report them for cheats how do you do that?

[vague narwhal]

every time i try loading the game it says failed to connect to server, any one else having similar problem?

[nova jetty]

Why does wizard get to miss and still land decisive hits? Fireball splash. Magic Missile Homing.

Then it gets hitscan as well. Zap. Explosion

[acoustic kiln]

add paladin

[drifting lava]

ssf - shit of piss

[heady ridge]

cause wizard has gained like 1-2 spells since playtests and still needs to sit on the ground

[iron smelt]

That's not a excuse

wiz doesn't need new spells

[nova jetty]

not a good reason. clarity potions

[sonic maple]

dasdasdasdasfsdgbdfhbfgd

[heady ridge]

i see someone dies to wizard a lot

[iron smelt]

Unrelated and untrue

[heady ridge]

i dont have anything related to say cause you didnt refute me, you just said "no u"

[iron smelt]

No?

[heady ridge]

okay

[iron smelt]

I didn't talked about you

[heady ridge]

whatever you say pal

[hazy latch]

I see I'm not the only one who likes men.

[deep scaffold]

did they reduce drop of troll pelts in adventure mode and adventure HR? I killed bunch of trolls and cant get single trollpelt

also is it better to farm the troll pelts with luck gear or with normal gear?

[haughty mist]

what gear can i wear in arena rn

[wraith crystal]

normal gear. in HR high luck in adventure.

[deep scaffold]

thanks

the drop rate sucks tho

[nova jetty]

Wizard is the easiest class in the game. Miss every spell and still do damage. Anyone who thinks this class is hard really needs to rethink their skill level.

[deep scaffold]

I think in solos its kinda hard no? but in duos trios is strong ye

[nova jetty]

Nah just bonk wiz.
Fireball the ground then zap to finish. They come in close -> bonk. They get the jump on you? Shield perks plus Arcane.

[deep scaffold]

ye true I never played the bonk wizzard only spell wiz in solos and got fucked so ig u are right with the bonk wiz

and its true when I played rare runs as geared rogue I got vs base gear bonk wiz and he just fcked me

[nova jetty]

Wizard can apply antiheal, reduced protections, and DoT - while displacing their enemy.... By MISSING a fireball.

• goes around corners/hits through terrain
• not possible to block

[deep scaffold]

y idk the class is strong only little weakness is if u play solo and missplay ig but u can say that to any class with the missplay part

[nova jetty]

then to add, they have hitscan spells that are at base faster to cast than it is to shoot arrows. (zap)
has instacast to double stack hitscans for over half hp (explosion)
has homing magic missiles that curve around you when they MISS

other spells are fine. but what pisses me off is how you really dont have to try to win. u just miss and ur still more effective than any other class.

ranger at least has to land an arrow.

[deep scaffold]

ye the fireball is rly forgiving

plus u didnt mention the burn spell that sticks to u when he hits it kinda aids too

[nova jetty]

explosion

[deep scaffold]

yeye

[nova jetty]

wizard is just the easiest class to play.

[deep scaffold]

ig ye idk I only play ranger rogue and little bit of wizzard when needed for trios

but out of these three definitely feels easiest

[nova jetty]

this game used to be a hardcore - skilled extraction looter.
now theyre just catering to the timmy players.
all the skilled stuff is just less effective than the efficient stuff.
im okay with meta abuse when the meta is fun. but this is just w-key, non skillful bs.

[deep scaffold]

idk I enjoy the game so far but might be cuz I only got 600h and I enjoy farming quests pve and pvp in hr feels hardcore for me still so ye

I might be little bit of timmy ig xd

[slow scaffold]

Enjoy the game that's what it's here for you not a timmy for enjoying it

The og players just went through rat training thats why they all hate it

[nova jetty]

yeah im 2.8k in.
game is fun but its always the same experience at the higher level

• arrow arrow arrow
• fireball
• heal
• "oop i got rogued"
• pocket heal the whatever frontline you want
• Barb/Rogue solos
• warlock gets away again
• druid gets away again
• gets hit through shield
• "Play door" "Play door" "Play door"

Other than before druid/warlock were added, this has always been the game experience of DaD. Hasnt really changed much. Just got a different flavor than before

[deep scaffold]

ye idk I enjoy the pvp aswell but rare runs more bcs the kits are cheaper and mobs arent that cncr plus im still in phase where I enjoy the learnign bosses thing etc

[tardy jungle]

summed up pretty well actually

[deep scaffold]

I sometimes play hr when I have enough gold usually get kills first 2/3 runs and then die so its still fine but sometimes I get run where mobs just fck me over and its frustrating

[tardy jungle]

think u forgot a couple of fireballs though

[nova jetty]

due to them focusing on buffing and nerfing for 2.5 year straight instead of adding new perks - yup this is all its been per wipe. they just put it in a different wrapper

[slow scaffold]

What class do you play?

[deep scaffold]

90% of time rogue I started playing the game and I sticked to class most of the time, sometimes ranger or wiz when playing duos trios

want to learn ranger more cuz the class is fun and satysfing to play

[nova jetty]

over 50% of solo players are rogue, so you're already a pro

[deep scaffold]

Xdd ye it kinda sucks that the class is too good in solo would love to see more variety of classes aswell thats why I want to learn more ranger and some other classes maybe

I also play druid but only for farming barnicles on water map bcs its fastest source of gold without risking dying

[nova jetty]

lmao yup. we all want to see more variety as well

but there has never really been any

[deep scaffold]

worse part is that 90% of people playing rogues in solos suck ass I dont want to sound ego ro smth but 90% of time I match rogue in solos I just shit on him

[nova jetty]

the current game is left over from the old "vision" where solos and duos didnt matter, they only balanced for trios

[deep scaffold]

but might be I have like trilion hours on class compared to my playtime

[nova jetty]

SDF just realized that solos and duos are where alot of the players are - and that we dont like storm.
so out of touch with his players its actually insane

[deep scaffold]

ye I remember them disabling solos duo back then was reason i quit the game and then came back

[nova jetty]

yup - terrible idea overall.
now they have a game where theyre ARE balancing for solo/duo/trio respectively. BUT they have all the leftover "balance" issue from the shitshow before the new "vision."

dark and darker development history should be a case study on how to turn Gold into Coal.

[deep scaffold]

yep I agree idk one one hand I understand that it must be hard to balance this game and no competetive game will ever be perfectly balanced but some things just suck

[deep scaffold]

y game could be big af

[tardy jungle]

theres no effort to be made in balancing, u think splash fireballs are fair? wiz still op after like 2 years

its just axe spec going between 3 and 5 dmg

[deep scaffold]

y thats one of the things that sucks but doesnt affect me that much since Im just kind of casual playing these game doing my things and dont care that much but I understand for someone high competetive in game who is playing for several years it must be frustrating

[tardy jungle]

atleast rangers gotta aim for their dmg, not saying their fair, but they have to aim

wiz just puts em on a timer and splashes them or hitscans

[nova jetty]

They need to get away from buffing and nerfing and just add way more options per class.
Then add enviornmental factors for dealing with mechanics if your class does not have an innante way of handling them.

Example Problem: Warlock Healing is an Issue in solos since fighters and many other classes cant kill them.

Example Solution: 15% Antiheal for 8secs after being burned by an Explosive Bottle.

Boom - now classes that cant apply antiheal can purchase an item to deal with a situation that would ultimately lead to them dying without a counter-measure.

[iron smelt]

Just compeletly rework tm

[tardy jungle]

still wouldnt fix the problem between counter matchups

[iron smelt]

It did nothing but ruin class identity

Make tm more like a melee perk

[nova jetty]

TM is balanced when Antiheal is applied - firemastery/rogue

Just make BUYING antiheal a possibility.

I mean, they already added pouches to spot rogues.

Explosive Bottles with antiheal solves the cleric and druid issue too.

Simple probelm - simple solution. But the devs just dont know what their doing in the slightest. RIP

"lets force everyone to make new arena gear end of wipe! that counts as content right?"

[deep scaffold]

also is the cosmic map fake news or are they fr thinknig about that? 😄

[nova jetty]

hes serious and odds are he'll put way too much time into it while the rest of the game burns. then the map will come out and everyone will just avoid it like they do the water one.

but no spells work, arrows have infinite range, and druid can fly

[deep scaffold]

idk the cosmic map is too much imo, the water map I actually like and it still kinda of fits I know there is lot of hate about watermap but I feel like its good its smth new its refreshing and its smth new that players need to learn

[nova jetty]

Uranus Egg will have a .067 droprate but be needed as the 2nd quest for the map.

[deep scaffold]

but cosmic is too much out of context of medieval times game

[deep scaffold]

ye that thing is bad

[tardy jungle]

its not the learning part, its the combat part

[nova jetty]

Cosmic map makes no sense at all

[tardy jungle]

who actually enjoys fighting in water or swimming

[nova jetty]

if im in S2R its fine but god forbid i lose a kit to that shit

[deep scaffold]

I mean the fihgting part is fine imo what isnt fine that some classes are just completely useless on the map

[deep scaffold]

good thing u can choose map now

for hr

[tardy jungle]

not too mention the desync, or god forbid trying to jump out of water

[nova jetty]

you gotta take boats on that map BUT row boats have infinite view distance. So everyone with elevation can see you, but you cant see them. Nice

[deep scaffold]

ye thats true but surprisingly I have better fps on water map then forgoten castel for some reason but my laptop sucks ass so ye. overall I think the game doesnt have best optimalization tho

[nova jetty]

the idea is nice but they suck at making it work. thats the theme of Dark and Darker

[tardy jungle]

less water, more land

[nova jetty]

empty promises and a bunch of lawsuits

[tardy jungle]

have water be an option or some crossing point, but not majority of map

[deep scaffold]

ye could be less water on the map imo, kinda frustrating with some classes to cross around the map

also wtf is this drop rate of the troll pelts I killed like 20/30 trolls and not a single one before I got like 3 in the row and now nothing

ah kjust got one XDD

[heady ridge]

the idea of a water map was never nice

[teal olive]

does will increase healing? for clerics?

[maiden echo]

Is pve HR worth it to get demi or is AP gain in pvp HR just way better? Also do they still separate your rank based on character & solo vs duo vs trio?

[hardy stump]

its laughably low gain, you'll need ~40 hours of perfect grind vs normal HRs 10

[young vessel]

AP is gained on individual characters I'm pretty sure, so your fighter could be demigod but others are neophyte, but I'm pretty sure your AP is combined from solo / duo / trio

[opal depot]

Dark and darker didn't win game of the year 2025

rigged

[mighty whale]

yes

[teal olive]

ok thx

[honest umbra]

so next week no crafted gear in arena ?

[plucky notch]

are you issuing a lot of latency on DnD Frankfurt Servers ?

Since last maj, the game feels more laggy, more input lag on switching consumable, i thought it was me first, but my wifi in good atm

[solid cave]

yo sdf how can yall fuck up simply copying and pasting everytime yall "fix" something its not even fixed than 20 other things are just broken

[honest vortex]

i have massive fps issue after update

[solid cave]

yall are some jokes

[plucky notch]

same fps and servers lag

unreal 5.5 is not on point

[honest vortex]

🙁

i've had fps issues since i started playing, but this is another level. good luck until this problem is completely resolved.

[wispy sleet]

its because of the engine update most likely

I got performance losses on my 9800x3d rig

especially on water map

[mellow charm]

remember when the playerbase told me PVe would save the game and keep causals around and since pve its been a downhill battle.

[neat urchin]

Fucking wild that devs allow thier game to lag/clip this bad and on top of having gear stats being mega bugged.

Ffs SDF, could you give atleast 10% of a fuck?

[hazy latch]

rip trying to learn stingray and getting egg rn
maelstrom is toast for me

symmetrically bad fps in all directions no matter the settings i change or if im staring point blank at a dark corner

[wise turret]

how much is an empty gold coin chest worth

[plain crane]

How do you farm gold atm?

[stoic gorge]

wait so you can still use legendary in the arena?

[stoic gorge]

22-25k

[wise turret]

do people buy them? cant even afford to list it in the marketplace lol

[subtle heart]

rn yeah but not in arena test 8

[stoic gorge]

why is next week or next wipe?

[subtle heart]

december 19th

also only self found items if you didnt know that already

[soft plinth]

ye

they do(i do)