game-discussion

[next saffron]

they should give rogues constant invis

[lavish atlas]

they should buff druid again

[wind prawn]

3k on fighter wiz and cleric though. I just was not having fun as a melee only class, and I have the lowest winrate/most grinding feeling on barb, but it can very well be I'm shit on the class.

[next saffron]

im 0

[timid sky]

kudos to the IM intern who ran SDF's thoughts through chatgpt prior to posting (but seriously)

[lunar rock]

ah and cleric souldnt be able to make that much healing and that much magic dmg in the same time

[lavish atlas]

only 3k twin

[wicked ibex]

hello so i got the game on epic but i cant play anymore . i read somthing about migration . how do i do that?

[dry mural]

Nah rogue is still busted. remove ambush or heavily reduce ho

[timid sky]

here's how to fix stealth: hide buff is removed if player idles for more than 2 seconds while hidden

[wind prawn]

Yes it's the same people and same comps every game, i don't see a point in climbing after

[lavish atlas]

to be warlord

[next saffron]

if you guys cant fight rogues its skill issue 🙁

[wind prawn]

If it gave rewards for arena I would, and i think it should

[lavish atlas]

true

[lunar rock]

same abusers

[fallow basin]

wait so why does panther not have hp nerf?

[dense pawn]

Great leader sdf has finally spoken!

I like that he posted that graph but why didn't he explain all the other colors? 🤔

[lunar rock]

cause u still get 30% armor rating debuff. u basically getting 3 tapped anyways

[maiden urchin]

Thinking of making a meme din of darkness build, anyone know how the scaling works for it?

[summer hull]

I think it goes off of magic dmg so magic power bonus is the scaling so you’d wanna build magic power/additional/true magic dmg

[maiden urchin]

Heck yeah, thats what i was thinking, but I'm so bad at that stuff lmao. Thanks!

[summer hull]

In this case because it’s aoe and you can’t hit limbs true would be the best. If you could hit headshots with it additional would be better because it scales with headshot multiplier but most of the time true is better cause headshots are hard to hit reliably in general

[lunar rock]

and true is flat

[summer hull]

Yes and ignores resistances

[lunar rock]

good against pdr mdr reduction

[maiden urchin]

I appreciate all the info! One of my arena teammates runs a meme 1-shot, handcannon and windlass build, so i think this would pair great with it xD

[summer hull]

Windlass seems like a pain compared to crossbow nowadays

[maiden urchin]

all for the memes m8 haha

[summer hull]

In the end all those numbers do add up to make a difference though. It probably slaps a lot harder juiced but I’ve been too much of a coward to run it

[left oar]

planning on playing this game again do people know when the wipe will be

or when the last wipe was

[summer hull]

No, this season just started this month. Estimated wipe is probably a couple months if they follow their pattern

[keen hatch]

can we js strip club fr

ts is abhorrent

[summer hull]

Wdym

[ashen willow]

horrible shit game balance

[indigo valve]

fr

[keen hatch]

can i send links here?

[keen cedar]

W game

[warm tendon]

FIX SHIELD (NOT) BLOCKING.

[crisp bough]

Hi

[gritty flume]

Bro how do you play the game, I spawned and got chased into a rogue by a barbarian within literally 15 seconds of spawn. High roller is impossible

What mindset am i supposed to play with knowing i'm going to die to a rogue i didn't know was there in highroller? How do you avoid that?

[brave mango]

Ya dont

[gritty flume]

But literally what is everyone else doing? Hiding?

[brave mango]

Accept the fact that youre gonna get ganked, bent over, ruined and killed every match you play

Curb your expectations and get used to losing, until you dont lose so much anymore

If youre afraid of losing and avoid combat youre not gonna get better and it'll result in you dropping the game

Accepting that you're a shitter, fighting people and learning by seeing what they're doing or what you did wrong and improving from there is the way to play

[gritty flume]

No i get that, but like what do you personally do? Hide? Throw torches at every dark spot? Camp for a minute every time you go in a new room? I have a lot of hours in the game man, I just die to rogues in highroller

[brave mango]

Boost up volume and dont stand still, listen for footsteps and get used to banking

Most rogues have the same playstyle where they hide in an obvious corner

[vapid oyster]

I run around looking for fights lol

[oblique haven]

is maxing cockatrice worth it?

[gritty flume]

I feel like constantly moving is exactly what gets me killed to rogues ngl, which i have to do because i'm engaged upon within 15 seconds of spawn. Idk man I'm just missing something i gotta watch streamers i guess

[keen hatch]

club is so balanced and uses all of ur brainpower for value am i right lads

[brave mango]

Depends on how you move

So rogues are weak but have high dps, your main plan is to make them whiff attacks and hit them back

Most use stilettos which are accurate stabbing weapons, you can strafe and smack em back with a longsword or something

[broken cove]

As a sorc main casting spells in both hands is LOUD, im sorry I cant hear the 3 footsteps as you come out of full invisibility 330MS swinging dagger with cutthroat lmao

[brave mango]

Yeah it's loud, im a warlock main myself and curses are loud asf too

Its mostly just luck if im honest cause a competent rogue is gonna fuck you up regardless

[gritty flume]

Game would improve with louder footsteps imo, I'm constantly losing track of players that are near and behind me in arena and other situations that I feel i would be able to keep track of in real life

[brave mango]

Sometimes they whiff, sometimes they hit 4 headshots with rupture/poison and youre dead

Once they engage it just becomes a battle of range and not letting them run away or jump off

[vapid oyster]

that's all spells/songs. They're loud and immediately identify what class you are

[broken cove]

I have great success surviving them with lightning vortex to blast them away but still complete invisibility has no place in this game. Rogue needs other assassin tools than becoming 100% invisibile

[brave mango]

Rogues have perks that make them near impossible to hear

Its not just footsteps, its rogue footsteps

Most people don't run those perks though

[broken cove]

Just delete hide, give rogue new abilities that incorporate a flanking assassin

[brave mango]

Ghostdust pouches for the win I guess haha

I mean as a scorc you have their bane, plasma blast

Kinda memey but it beats up rogues

[white latch]

anyone know a website that actually has updated maps of dark and darker 😭

[broken cove]

I was 100 -> 0 comboing them yesterday in arenas lol

[brave mango]

Their dps needs to go or hide needs to, rupture + poison is just bullshit when they can go invis and walk up to your face

[broken cove]

Its random generated so... no

[broken cove]

I like the idea of skills that effect their environment, like one that shuts all doors in a module and turns off the lights, a way to trap you but not just turn invis and landmine

[brave mango]

Silence is also all kinds of horseshit, hard counters warlocks and sorcerers especially

[tulip iris]

invis is just a mechanic that is almost impossible to make fun for everyone involved, regardless of game. i still think throwingknife spam was healthier than hide, even if it was also frustrating.

[broken cove]

Im fine with cutthroat, its a good skill

[brave mango]

Knives can atleast be blocked or straved

[broken cove]

100% ill die way more often to throwing knives with insane dmg but at least it has counterplay besides "get gud"

[brave mango]

Too good imo

Like they can already get the drop on you very easily, being able to block you out of using your abilities is just unfun

[broken cove]

Oh the overlap is strong yea but if they don't have hide i think cutthroat is fair and necessary in this game

[brave mango]

Like hoorah I got jumped and lost half my hp in a picosecond AND my panic button has been blocked so I physically cannot do anything but stab with a prayer

[vapid oyster]

rogues pretty balanced right now tbh

[brave mango]

Ragebait used to be believable ☮️

[vapid oyster]

ok new-here-leaf guy

[agile tide]

Don’t try, I just angered the mob for suggesting invis rogue might not be an unkillable monster

[vapid oyster]

it's the same in every pvp game. Invis abilities completely crush new players and are ToTaLy UnFaIr, but when you learn how to deal with it and what to expect it's really not that bad

[north tartan]

SDF REALLY COOKED WHEN HE MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR A PANTER TO LEAP WHILE HES IN THE WATER LOVE THE GAME ITS AMAZING

[warm tendon]

REMOVE ROGUE FROM SOLO QUEUES

[silver ridge]

where can i find bone powder guys?

[vast kayak]

marketplace or on dreadspines

[warm tendon]

REMOVE ROGUE FROM SOLO QUEUES

[hazy latch]

farm in hr for good time

[compact hollow]

Water map is so ass. Manta ray has worse boss design than the bed of chaos in dark souls

[brisk urchin]

what skill scales with penguin damage?

[raw edge]

Both Will and Strength is what I was told, but I couldn't point to any ground truth or source

[compact hollow]

Will for spitting strength for biting

[agile tide]

I want a second level for GC so bad
I don’t even care if it’s an upper level woodland beast map or a deep cavern under level, either way

[vivid onyx]

Even if it’s full of roided out hobgoblins that want nothing more than to take your man candy ?

[agile tide]

Especially then
Get this man on the dev team immediately

[brave mango]

Its not an unkillable monster, its just not fun to play against

[vivid onyx]

I accept

[brave mango]

😭

[agile tide]

True enough, but anything is unfun to play against when you lose. I think sorc is unfun to play against when I get hit with the wombo combo. When I manage to hit every longbow shot and my opponent dies on the way to me I’m gonna guess they’re not having fun either

[raw edge]

Ahhh that makes sense, thank you!

[brave mango]

Not neccesarily though

There's a difference between getting skill diffed and just being caught off guard by an invisible rogue that you cannot catch up on because they can double jump up walls and move like Hermes

If I die to a fighter parrying my shit I genuinely dont mind cause I got outskilled

[hardy stump]

reality check:

Arena provides experience and situations completely detached from dungeon experience and will never be balanced as long as you can bring your own gear into it instead of being forced into arena balanced specific kit

[vapid oyster]

oh no, totally random comps aren't always competitive

[brave mango]

If an archer hits every shot on me while im tryna dodge or block, its entirely on me because I sucked at dodging and blocking

Scorc is the same story, I got Unga bunga'd by the airbender

Rogue is just almost always hiding in a corner or near a red portal, hitting you in the head 3 times taking away your hp like its 12 instead of 120 and then have the mobility to get away completely

[agile tide]

I think a lot of it is just playing for a loooong time through many rogue metas
I stab every extract as I take it and corners that seem suspicious like a lunatic

[brave mango]

Yeah I dont mind admitting im a shitter cause I absolutely am, im new to the game and all

But rogue is just the ultimate newbie destroyer and its not fun to fight against

The only way I win fights against a rogue is if they're an unkitted newbie like I am and they whiff a hit

I think they just have the strongest ability of every class which is the ability to pick and choose their fights with insane success rate

Interaction speed lets them open 3 doors while youre still opening the first, the movement speed makes most classes entirely unable to catch up to them and even if you do they can hide somewhere and hit you with a u-turn or double jump into the next room like on ruins

[agile tide]

I mean I also used to feel that way so you’re definitely not wrong

But at least trust that with time you’ll be able to feel the bastards creeping around haha

If you start to consistently see them coming even a couple seconds in advance, all of a sudden they are super weak

[brave mango]

I be trying fr

The pain of losing to a duo rogue stings but not enough to make me drop the game

I did, which is why I know what I do about rogue

Mine is level 50 and I barely if ever die because of the points I mentioned earlier

I can run off, make the fighter or w/e think they can heal and then dome them with a rupture poison hand crossbow 😭

[true rock]

what are the HRG and hero stuff peple type on the looking for group chats ?

[brave mango]

Only real limitation is an actual honest 1v1 or against a wizard with fireball who doesnt let you get close

[agile tide]

Two things that are super important:

• Headset volume. Even with creep the footsteps are audible. This is tougher in trios fights for sure
• learn to run in the opposite direction, jump, turn in midair, and melee. This spaces out a dagger often enough, and their move slow from trying to stab u gets them into a melee trade

[brave mango]

Im a warlock main so most of the time my volume is taken over by my own curses or casting but I deffo gotchu, sound is important for sure

The strave bit i need to get better at

[agile tide]

That’s one of my main gripes with warlock, literally deafened by my own audio clearing mobs lol. Huge limitation

[brave mango]

I mean its the same with every casting class tbh

[lofty lance]

Each mode requiring a full party to enter is such a great change! SDF cooking, thank you for making it so pick-pocket rogues can't queue into trio lobbies

[agile tide]

True, I only play sorc and lock for caster and not very much. But they are both loud as shit

[brave mango]

Yeah lmao its..a pain in the ass but im learning to manage by just not having the catalyst in hand all the time

Only casting if im in an actual fight with players otherwise im deaf

[agile tide]

For lock at least u can do the dark reflect/soul collector/will stack/malice/dark enhancement build

Even if the rogue hits you he just takes a nuclear reflection and u can Kris dagger him once or twice, preferably with BoC

[brave mango]

Yeah thats what im running as my rogue bane right now

[lofty lance]

Are rogue mains angry that they can't solo in trio lobbies anymore?

[brave mango]

Ain't seen any yet but presumably

[agile tide]

The main thing I didn’t like about this build was that it kind of sucked against casters cuz no anti magic and slow, plus ranger.

Definitely great against melee though

[lofty lance]

I'm glad they can't, solo pick-pocketing in a trio lobby was taking away from the actual trio teams

[brave mango]

Eh, curse of weakness and hydra blocking their path works fine for me

[agile tide]

Hydra block is good. I just main bard and ranger and don’t like being slow cuz I don’t play it right, I play like I’m still fast haha

[brave mango]

Oh yeah I hear ya, I kit my warlock to be atleast 98% ms

I really only take the hit to movement speed when I equip my halberd but If I have to equip that then ms wouldn't do anything for me anyways

[agile tide]

I don’t think I run anything that’s under 100% ever, I can’t bring myself to
Warlock was the exception and I hated it lol. I’m usually up in the 315+ zone

[brave mango]

What do you usually play anyways?

[true rock]

what does HR Z2H mean ?

[agile tide]

Bard and ranger, I used to play a lot of warlock but I’m not as into it anymore
Bard just gets MS for free, and ranger is easy to build MS.

Warlock has better offense and heal, but it’s a very different playstyle

[agile tide]

High Roller zero to hero. No buying gear and perma death usually. Self imposed challenge

[quiet finch]

wait a sec, did i just read right that warlock has kris dagger again? 😄

[halcyon kite]

So can players no longer que solo in PvE?

[true rock]

whats zero to hero ?

[quiet finch]

means you go in squire gear and keep climbing with the stuff you find

[agile tide]

Go in squire, build kit with loot. No using market. Play raids until u die and start over again

[mental lava]

nope

[agile tide]

Yup

[proper plume]

Is anyone having trouble logging into blacksmith launcher?

[warm tendon]

I'm playing via the Blacksmith launcher, it keeps me logged in so I did not go through the login process. I'm playing right now.

[gusty sierra]

Can Ancient stingray egg be found at the 'Dealmaker'???

[broken cove]

Probably not considering the prices

[gusty sierra]

none for sale, what prices?

[rocky bramble]

small community of players actually bothering to farm the boss gatekeeping the item. If they add water map HR the price of the item will go down, considering it's currently farmable in PVE. Only reason there is so few is because there's so little incentive to do the boss other than a cosmetic, and most people probably already have a torch skin so they don't care.

[indigo jasper]

is shield clipping fixed?

[hushed crane]

Is game dead?? can't find a game for 5 minutes..

[vague gate]

Are they ever going to fix the HR queue times? Every time I get on I have to wait like 8-10 minutes to find a match US east. Is this just because no one is playing HR or is there a bug?

[queen canopy]

how come pos teammates don't show up in the karma section, but other teammates do

[south sphinx]

so no duplicate class?

[sullen perch]

can items get an option to stack vertical first instead of horizontally

[rocky summit]

where do i find demonflys.

[winged terrace]

they are in hell i forget the name of the room there are double doors down stairs and the centaur

[kind blaze]

high roller is so dead, there's no point

[zinc moat]

wont let us choose maps, smh

[topaz latch]

The new matching rules silently fails if you dont tick the thing. youll be in q forever

[mental garden]

What do you even mean? It has unlimited damage for free while invisible, does 100 damage per second to cloth, has 2 hides, etc

it seems the rogue buffs were designed literally to just wipe any remaining players from the game who don't play rogue

[agile tide]

Pickpocket rogue is best with trios footsteps to cover your sound, is what they meant. It's just a meme build for fun but it is generally solo queue into trios

[spare pagoda]

they did this change because of the team sniping double catice boc warlocks XD

[agile tide]

It will be nice not to face double sorc alternating lightning storm and flame wall nonstop

[wide wedge]

does switching charcters and switch back before getting my gear from the goblin deletes the gear?

[crystal moon]

anyone else getting crazy lag on east rn? Rubberbanding like every few seconds

[hazy latch]

Its been like for me the whole morning - no issues all week and now...

[hardy stump]

no, you have like 45 mins to claim it, so unless the map was about to end, just hop for fast rags to riches or something while you wait

[azure mesa]

can skull keys drop from minibosses?

[hardy stump]

all keys drop from minibosses

[rapid lava]

Are named items quest still a thing?

[spare pagoda]

tell me how a drum does more damage than a crossbow

[hazy latch]

Still a lot of time left in the season but they were supposed to be place holders for the cosmetics so I doubt it.

[crystal moon]

ty I thought it was just me its so bad

[graceful storm]

double sorc duos are the cringiest crutch set up ive ever seen

[agile tide]

It was a miserable experience, they only used two spells and rotated each other's cooldowns lmao

[silent geyser]

Egg is roughly 200k

[agile tide]

I feel like at some point this season that drop rate is gonna go up. Not a guarantee just a prediction

[silent geyser]

Idk, I mean they already made it harder by making egg not prespawn

[brave mango]

😭 WHA

[sonic maple]

Idk the pve cleric baiting solos into into his rogue in solos was pretty op

[silent geyser]

Yea might be more now, was 2 full chest+ back when you could see the egg before killing boss

[lyric creek]

look if you're chasing a pve cleric you kind of deserved to get landmined

[sonic maple]

Should I say it was in solos a 3rs time chat

[civic lake]

so all i can pickpocket is shitty blues off of noobs in norms. why even have the pickpocket perk at this point. edit: solos is not fun to pickpocket. they barely ever see you and it feels like bullying

bad change to stop solo queueing in HR trios

[fiery orbit]

IRONMACE, LET ME CANCEL MY QUEUE AT 5 SECONDS AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

Im just a silly boy who forgets his potions sometimes, i play barbarian its in my bones

[lyric creek]

ive never seen pickpocketing as a gold gain method either way, you make more money being a lockpick pinyata or landmine anyway
^ ever get really bored
go lockpick speed run all the lionheads/goldchests on norms and see the max # of players you can get to chase you until you die

[civic lake]

its not about it as a legit method for making gold. its more about actually getting hype making an insane steal off someone. no neuron activation stealing a bunch of junk

[rocky bramble]

You're not meant to be able to queue into trios as a solo and collect free loot off the ground.

[civic lake]

thats not what i was referring to

[rocky bramble]

That is why the change was made.

[civic lake]

also people do that in solos so i dont really understand the point

[rocky bramble]

So it's better to just let people solo queue into trios HR, not in any way intending to actually play just to profit off of other people's work and make people actually playing HR have yet another reason to not queue the mode.

[spare pagoda]

idk, maybe cuz in solos it's 1 guy that's dead and he's usually looted by the guy that killed him right afterwards.

[rocky bramble]

Makes sense to me tbh. Kill HR even more than it already is, ignore the playerbase playing Trios HR and cater to the people who can't win in pvp. Sounds logical.

[hazy latch]

Idk, when this change was made, felt like less people were playing HR -- and thats what I saw people complaining about. That trios were already poorly filled and now with solo crows eating up trio spaces...

[civic lake]

? what are you even on about. people also rat in solos? in trios a fight can go on for like 3 minutes in a doorway without someone dying and i can be pickpocketing like a madman. in solos its done in a second or third party simulator where everyone is just running in circles

[rocky bramble]

The point is the gamemode is trios and it shouldn't be changed to cater to you, a solo player.

[spare pagoda]

agreed

[rocky bramble]

Sorry your solo build doesn't work in trios, doesn't mean you can't random queue as a pickpocket rogue and do the same thing. Nothing's stopping you. You're already griefing the people you pickpocket why do you care about griefing your two randoms.

[warm sun]

The ghost king bug that makes it constantly teleport is still a thing btw

[civic lake]

just seems unnecessary and doesnt really solve the problem. the really bad rat offenders just queue as a 3 stack anyway, i just want to pickpocket

[hazy latch]

He's saying his solo build works in trios and not in solos (works stronger rather). Also, don't encourage pick pockets in trios as a random. That's just fuckin grief.

[civic lake]

no one random queues trio hr but sure

[rocky bramble]

Pickpocketing in the first place is fucking grief, and if it's in the game and a build they want in HR, it's not troll to play the game as intended.

[hazy latch]

Okay, queue into my random team with pickpocket. I'll gladly TK you.

[spare pagoda]

then you're seen as a PoS and if they actually had a good rep system you'd lose value.

[rocky bramble]

Bro you literally just said in your last message the dedicated rats will random queue. Looks like you're right at home.

[civic lake]

i said the rats will find 2 other rats and queue as a 3 stack. 3 homies giggling about stealing scraps off the floor

[rocky bramble]

And you'll get a scaling ban every time you do it until you can't anymore lmfao, until they remove the perk from HR trios altogether.

[hazy latch]

Oh no. Free time away from this game at the expense of letting you know as a pickpocket random, you're a shitter.

[rocky bramble]

@civic lake Yet people 3 stack rogue or druid on HR to snipe people, which is only possible in random queue, so you're wrong.

[civic lake]

the change doesnt solve anything is what im saying. and if someone is streaming? forget about it

[civic lake]

yeah i guess it could only be druid + rogue you are right there

[rocky bramble]

I never said I was doing it, it's literally Axiiu complaining he can't pickpocket

[civic lake]

bard song of shadow time?

[hazy latch]

I mean, all I interjected with was a clarification with what was said and then I got talked to like I actually stated my real opinion. So we can do this back and forth some more...

[spare pagoda]

if someone wants to be a rat, let them be. In my eyes they're loot pinatas

[rocky bramble]

Whatchu yapping about? You cried that I told him to go into trios as a solo pickpocket because that makes you mad you'd get that on your team.

And I really don't care you'd get butthurt for having a pickpocket rogue on your squad tbh. Find some friends if you really think it griefs you that much. If people wanna play like that they can, if the devs don't want them to they can disable the perk. Don't get pressed over a discussion.

[hazy latch]

I never stated my opinion about anything. I clarified your misinterpretation and you responded to me as though I spoke my real opinion. Redundant I know but apparently spelling it out for you once wasn't enough. So yeah, the nuance here is referred to commonly as Devil's Advocate.

[rocky bramble]

Yeah you're just yapping lmao. Apparently saying the same nonsensical thing word for word twice is spelling it out lmfao

[hazy latch]

You okay?

[rocky bramble]

Shrodinger's douchebag more like.

[hazy latch]

Typing it out usually implies spelling it out and since I prefer to be very blunt -- I can't see it as anything else because there is no other way. Albeit you are now clearly crashing out over your own delusion. Have a good one. Life is too short to be so angry.

[sonic maple]

Phone just fell off the roof does it still work? Testing testing

[vestal ivy]

can you still get pelts, spectral fabric, etc from adventure mode

[civic lake]

got one yesterday testing out a kit

[vestal ivy]

ah nice, I killed spectral 10x times and didn't see anything so I guess I got unlucky

[rocky bramble]

Yeah it's just low drop rate.

[civic lake]

lower rates i think

[vestal ivy]

thanks, I figured the rates were lower, I'm just learning him rn on adventure mode with a undead damage reduction kit so hopefully my luck is better once I get this guy down

[rocky bramble]

Bro sent me a 3 page dm because I didn't react to his rage bait 🤣

[hazy latch]

Rage bait? Just sent you the receipts so you could have it clearly explained. Like I said, life is too short to be so you. Figured you'd appreciate the resolution.

[rocky bramble]

Yeah I figured you'd think like that being 12 and all.

[hazy latch]

knuckle dragger rage bait

[fiery roost]

he prolly plays fighter ignore him

[rocky bramble]

It's just funny at this point

[fiery roost]

recently came back to the game as a rogue thank u sdf for making are class viable 🙏🏼

it use to be rough now at least it's managable even tho we squishy

[eternal jacinth]

After playing arc raiders I can officially say this game disappoints me now and I do not enjoy it anymore

[tender sluice]

this game is hanging on by a pubic hair

[fiery roost]

i like them both one for shooting one for stabbing it's like london n america

[frigid wigeon]

i hit this guy 20 tiems in the face and he didnt die can any 1 tell whats going on

this guy was clapping emote all the times while we are hitting him with 2 players

[fiery roost]

he was probably a fighter or a barb n u probably had worse gear

[frigid wigeon]

did they change the gear again

[fiery roost]

which sucks but like the games unfair if your a rogue u have to drastically out skill or catch off guard barbs n fighters

or really any low phy power class

[frigid wigeon]

yeah alright il get some gear

thanks

[fiery roost]

it's not to hard to get money now adays u want some fun just go norms forgotten castle rush the room with tons of the tombstones (graveyard) and kills wolfs

[stuck agate]

Where is the hidden lever for the secrets and the vermin quest?

[fleet surge]

cant hurt anyone in adventure mode

[main lintel]

You were probably in adventure mode

[frigid wigeon]

playing the new map

as always very beautifull awesome artwork nice skins

[fiery roost]

imagine if he's in adventure mode lmaoooo

[hard sierra]

what are the modules where mermaids are in?

i swear i see so few

[hazy latch]

I usually see mine in areas around the middle of the map, in holes in the ground or near the maelstrom or Bladehand.

[hard sierra]

hmm

[stray wind]

whats better for arena:
centaurs madness VS legendary recurve
like pretty much its 5% armor pen VS 1 weapon damage right>?

[craggy saddle]

Anyone having issues with cockatrice quest completed and getting no gems?

[vapid oyster]

a grey longbow has higher base dmg than that. Recurve just not good imo

[hazy latch]

Absolutely the 5% AP

[obtuse elk]

Where do I use frozen iron key?

[west fractal]

does anyone have an updated drops table or any updated wiki like info on a spreadsheet or something.

[west fractal]

have you hatched it?

[bronze axle]

how come as a druid I can't cast my heals with my spell book ?

[tight helm]

its a perk

[west fractal]

check your perks, animal form can bog your spells for balance reasons

[ivory tulip]

was the new artifacts a lie? or where are they?

[bronze axle]

Ahhh okay, shapeshift mastery didn't do that last time I played

[tight helm]

whats the funnest class

not just spamming

[storm helm]

druid is fun

[young vessel]

there's no HR water map yet

[storm helm]

only class that is not cringe rn is fighter bard \

[young vessel]

agreed

[forest mirage]

any one got a labled map of frosty map

[solar jackal]

has anyone run into lich in high roller?

[lapis minnow]

Is it just me or a magical swords actually kind of good for combat

[safe spindle]

whats the ancient stingray egg used for?

[vast mulch]

anyone got bis bard kit or items i can trade bis from any other kit

[eager ginkgo]

@fleet imp when is the tavern skin i want it

[craggy saddle]

Yeah, I've completed all the cockatrice quests

[fleet imp]

The what now

https://tenor.com/view/gibbon-freaks-out-over-hedgehog-gif-8219178429617154413

[eager ginkgo]

Halloween tavern skin were in October its almost over actually

[fleet imp]

Soon perhaps...

[west fractal]

skill issue

[thorn crown]

did you ever figure out a fix for this? I cant send messages either due to party chat being disabled

[wanton halo]

where are mermaid cofins

[tight helm]

is the felling axe actually good or club better

[craggy saddle]

lol what. Anyone else other than Dan have any ideas lol? No gems after completing all cockatrice quests for about a week

[lucid terrace]

Golden Keys no longer a thing?

[craggy saddle]

Southeast side of Maelstrom in horse shoe, swim to bottom, there are some near the revive

[opal saddle]

i took a few days off and sdf buffed fkn druid

[soft sedge]

yeah you have to go to lobby and then on the left side of you chat there is an eye

[lucid terrace]

Just pulled one and extracted but its not in inventory

[craggy saddle]

Yeah, they are now only in dungeon use

[thorn crown]

Omg I never would have found that. Thank you

[jaunty sandal]

solo in this game is the worst thing to ever exist litterly an unplayable experience you HAVE to have no brain in your skull to enjoy solo on dnd

[opal saddle]

i cannot wait till this game dies so i never have to fight a druid or sorc again

[lucid terrace]

nice devs

[spark fulcrum]

You could just like… play another game

[spark fulcrum]

They only work in the lobby you pull them in

[lucid terrace]

SDF chemo speedrun

[woeful bane]

getting rid of gbmm was a mistake. now im stuck playing with sweats that have bis blues and i get 1 tapped. why did i even come back to this game

[lucid terrace]

games been RMT simulator since day 1

[woeful bane]

cant wait for arc raiders to come out

[mild shell]

bro if the mob headshot multiplier is gonna stay at 1.75X then they need to tone down the mob's aimbot
cause getting instakilled by two melee mobs aimbotting your head at the same time is not fun

[hazy latch]

why arent there more mobs that are harder and in higher density in HR? thought this was a hardcore game

[woeful bane]

being able to pick and choose what attribute you want on items is cool but also kinda ruined the game

i hope they see that i dont even really have to find bis anymore i can just make it myself. that was not a good idea

[winter marlin]

bis blues that are as easy to get as breaking a crate

[woeful bane]

no i havnt gotten very few bis since ive been back and i loot a lot of stuff. the fact that you can make your own bis is cheap and shouldnt be a thing

you can find a blue with 1 good role and make it bis with the goldsmith that was a terrible idea in my opinion

all my boiys i used to play with stopped playing because of this and im probably going to be following them

[forest mirage]

any one got a ruby silver map??

[opal saddle]

@woeful banelove arc

[woeful bane]

yea arcs gonna be lit i still love this game but idk about its current state]

[opal saddle]

arc was so fun played it for the first time this weekend and on the 30th of this month its bye bye dark not more landmine rogue sorc or druid

[glass axle]

is the halloween lobby theme coming back?

[woeful bane]

yea now its gonna be 1 tap ferro and 2 tap revolver lol. but it was still fun and refreshing and i cant wait

[weary herald]

DOES ANYONE EVEN HAVE A STEFANS BERET WITH 2 VIG 2 AGI legendary

[high sapphire]

does true magic dmg stack with shadow touch?

[hazy latch]

How much u willin to pay? 😏

[tired pike]

what are the early level magic healing breakpoints?

[dire pollen]

What is PVE tuned to in squire to riches?

[wanton furnace]

does true magic still stack with poison weapon?

[languid plaza]

HOW TO WHISP SOME ONE LIKE CHAT

[weary herald]

how much you want

[languid plaza]

HOW CAN I DO IT

[opal saddle]

you caps is active

[versed frost]

are we deadass

[grizzled meteor]

Yo @glad thunder I got an idea.
Just remove all pvp from this game, remove all gear and make it Faustian mob only pve battle royale ATP like what are u dojng

[dull surge]

Is the faustian deal really getting that out of hand?

[cursive shuttle]

Anyone else having issues right now? Not letting me connect.

[exotic falcon]

would nightmare mummy be worth buying as a ranger/rogue/bard?

[drifting raptor]

sure

[timber brook]

I run it so I'd say so lol.

[drifting raptor]

i like frost skele more

[exotic falcon]

been running the agi felidian for a while but it's getting boring lmao

[drifting raptor]

that skin looks so gross. hunchback lookin mf

[exotic falcon]

too broke for frost skele, nightmare mummy it is

[ivory tulip]

they said it would drop from the other bosses because of that, but all g im not surprised something they said existed didnt exist

[robust briar]

someone answer this for me, im looking up quest guides, locations and other shit and i consistently get no/outdated information on anything related to quests, or even what the modules for the map even look like

[lethal badger]

There’s not really like a website that tells you what mobs drop specific items, especially with like a bunch of new items coming in per season, so it gets kinda like a chore to update but there’s a website to look a modules

https://darkanddarkertracker.com/maps

for items, you would either read the description of the item they are asking for, or ask here and get some answers

[young vessel]

facts

[robust briar]

you may have saved me hours a research

[craggy sun]

bring player statistics button back for dungeon stats

[robust briar]

idk it feels like no one is giving any information about the game anymore. like a perpetual state of old information

[lethal badger]

If there’s someone who keeps the wiki or a website updated, sure enough, but at this time nah

[obtuse torrent]

empty chest worth illusory?

[craggy quest]

is there any reason people try to kill me while im doing boss and if they do they dont even do the boss, wouldnt u want my loot and boss loot? im not quite understanding

[lethal badger]

Some people just wanna kill other people, see what loot is to grab from players, and dip, maybe they don’t know how to do the boss or it’s not worth the time

[craggy quest]

yeah but this is an extraction game not a free for all

[lethal badger]

Yeah but not everyone is friendly, it’s a PvX game, they can decide they just want to go into a game to PvP

[robust briar]

anyone know what the "Alter Location" is supposed to look like? im not finding it and i'm trying to get a squire quest done, does it have a new name or something?

[lethal badger]

Altar room might be crypts

[stuck agate]

Demon Alter? Or just Alter

[robust briar]

it says altar on ice cavern

[stuck agate]

If you look up dark and darker interactive map, it’s a bit outdated, but it may help

[robust briar]

i already tried i got nothing.

[stuck agate]

I see, I’m sorry I couldn’t be of much use, it may be in the second floor, the ice abyss

[robust briar]

i might just give up questing

[pale bane]

@robust briar I believe it’s the room with frost walkers and death skulls with a 50/50 res or health shrine below

[keen mauve]

Its the only other room with the yeti in ice caverns

[lethal badger]

The location it gives on the quest log is pretty accurate

[pale bane]

^^^ ok or that one idk tbh

[lethal badger]

So probably take a pic of the quest description so we can have a better idea

[slim tulip]

" /w NameOfThePerson "

[robust briar]

yeah i got ya give me a second

[upbeat cave]

yo is the market tracker addon from overwolf ok to download or na?

dont wanna get banned

[robust briar]

couldnt post a pic but the quest is "a squire's daydream"

[lethal badger]

Don’t think that addon or any third party addon has been addressed by IM (I may be wrong) so would probably have to advice as “use it at own risk”

[lethal badger]

Send it over a DM request

[lethal badger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012363026214690919/1430000151627563099/IMG_3382.png?ex=68f82eec&is=68f6dd6c&hm=bfb2b8257846d12af3919d5447efb49c35f58ae8a9de43912dacd8e96ad163db&

Interestingly it’s not in the tracker map, but here’s another old interactive map, pretty sure outdated

https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/IceCavern-01-N

[robust briar]

you are a godsend thank you so much

[onyx flare]

looted a shark fin and half lobby came to congratulate me

[robust briar]

quests just feel impossible now (at least of the time being) now it could just be that i dont play the game for the pvp, but i play i for progression. but hidden mechanics, and almost no information on anything.

[random thorn]

has anyone else traded in silver coins and notice the 30 gold for 10 gold?

[subtle heart]

i had a question can i link my blacksmith acc to steam?

[wild sleet]

are the game servers working?

[random thorn]

i just got out of a game so i would say yes

[wild sleet]

i cant connect after character choise

[earnest current]

any one know where Shackles is ? quest from collector dont know where to find

[lethal badger]

Yeah its bugged right now

[lethal badger]

I usually find them by the flip boat on top middle

[random thorn]

ok just making sure it wasnt something on my end been having issues with my games recently and didnt want this to be one as well

[earnest current]

kill monster or find on the ground ?

[lethal badger]

Find on the ground

[earnest current]

do you remember area name

[lethal badger]

No, I only remember the flip boats by top middle

[oak geyser]

which classes are the best "all arounders"?
Ranged, melee, lots of useable gear? PVP PVE

I assume its only fighter. Maybe warlock?

[earnest current]

on the boat right or in thieft house ?

[lethal badger]

There’s only two flip boats by top middle no?

[lethal badger]

Fighter yes, warlock has some range and melee but relies on their spells

[earnest current]

holy ship full of fisher man guar the ship and dont know where to find @@

[lethal badger]

It’s usually around the floor or on top of crates, I recommend exploring the flipped boats. If you don’t see them, get out and go in a fresh map and repeat

[earnest current]

broken ship on the map ?

[lethal badger]

My guy I have been saying top middle the two flip ships for 3 replies now

[earnest current]

who make all the quest on the sea map sure noob ( 100% ironmace woker )

[covert mist]

dark and darker is dead, this season was their last chance and they royally blew it

[oak glen]

y u say that @covert mist

[wild sleet]

why?

[earnest current]

Remove all shit quest on sea map noob ironmace

[potent canopy]

Fix mob aggression

[errant moat]

the amount of griefing u can do on this game is sooo bad

10% of hr lobbys kill lich wont even attempt it but if u start it u bet they are going to come grief u

[fluid dove]

im having an issue where i get like 20 frames as soon as i get close to people. i stutter a shit ton. anyone have a fix or encountering this prob? just started this wipe

PLEASE ITS UNPLAYABLE

i can play other games just fine its ONLY THIS ive tried all settings and laucn options

[lean gust]

its not just you. very common here

[storm helm]

took a break from highroller to shit on bis blues in white kit i see why yall are scared of highroller lmao

[earnest current]

i see a fisher man jumb on me from 500m away from me like Thor jumb down and hit me to dead

[fluid dove]

so there is just no fixx? WTF i have never seen a game this unoptimized

[crude ridge]

You might be surprised about this one. DRUID. ITS THE BEST

[covert mist]

no meaningful changes in the season, just more of the same flip flopping number changes like restricting team size/comp

faustian was sort of interesting but that was also nuked

[gritty flume]

Warlock is easily the best class in the game. Rogue hate is real but a good warlock wins every matchup

[earnest current]

druid can kill every thing in lobby , warlock is nothing

[storm helm]

i struggle hard on druid

[crude ridge]

Need better kits ^

[storm helm]

yea i just been using white kits

[crude ridge]

In reality its probably not you. Just need more str/agi + all true and action speed

[storm helm]

i added you to ask questions on it later if thats cool

[oak geyser]

0 ranged attack

[crude ridge]

I gotchu

[cold radish]

where is a tidewalker slinger. ive actually never seen one

[fickle root]

anyone know the easiest way to kill centuars or demon beserkers or want to help me?

[bronze axle]

What are sash's for that the tailor can make

[fleet oyster]

can anybody please enlighten me on what the cockatrice questline gives?

[edgy kraken]

guys what are the crab parts for?

[marble rapids]

make soup

How much is the golden key going for?

[stone oak]

centaurs you look down while crouching and strafe to their left side, berserkers you can either do the wiggle back and fourth while crouching or the better method of circling them while crouching one swing and crouch jumping the next

[bleak sorrel]

does anyone know if Will adds damage to Blow of Corruption?

[boreal ledge]

it does

[wintry stone]

I’m trying to build a fighter build , I like longsword builds does anyone have any tips on what stats I should focus on ? It seems everything is so important on fighter

[tranquil flax]

shi phys power move speed lowk everything fighters always gonna be a little well rounded

[wintry stone]

Ok

[low umbra]

dmlzdWFsbWluZC5hcHAvbWluZG1hcC82NDQxM2RmZi0zZDZiLTRhMDgtYjU1NS03NjEyZjg3NTJhMTA=

[storm helm]

squire to riches has to be the best mode they have added

[west dove]

any news on monk class yet?

[storm helm]

yea they said there not realesing another carried class

[west dove]

ty, what is carried class?

[storm helm]

nah they ganna rework classes we got first new skils perks etc

[stoic ridge]

Can we all agree that sdf showed some actual growth and kinda cooked in that message?

[calm wedge]

#sdfs-kitchen

[stoic ridge]

Its been delayed to expand current classes, which while sad, I think is the right call. And this is from someone who has wanted monk more then any other clas

[storm helm]

they need to just take sorc and throw that shit away

[stoic ridge]

Anyone who thinks any classes should be removed entirely has all their thoughts and opinions on the game invalidated.

[storm helm]

kinda like your thoughts on gear in normals lmao dork

[urban meteor]

If you get killed by J1k and Magicfingers713 they hacking

[river rapids]

can you still change your server on here?

[stoic ridge]

You want to remove content from the game. I think removing purps from norms just hurts everyone across the board. Ftp players loose access to a lot of content, i.e most crafted items, and purples become pretty irrelevant across the board

[young depot]

They should keep the fastain bargain in adventure mode. I keep going into normals and the second i spawn in my team kills each other.

[stoic ridge]

Thats not the solution. They need to more harshly punish people are constantly kill teammates.

[storm helm]

i think adding a cool down would prolly do it justice

[young depot]

When I spawn in, one teammate kills the other because they are friends and want to troll using the bargain. They arent tking to tk they just wanna play monsters. That shouldnt be put in the pvp mode. If they wanna troll people as a monster, the mode where pvp isnt active would make more sense.

[storm helm]

sounds like a you issue brotha

[vocal belfry]

nah. not the only

[vocal belfry]

cool comeback tho brotha

[lethal badger]

If you are talking about server region in dark and darker, there is a select region on your main menu

[storm helm]

mine runs fine no lag check your server no one i know complains about lag so it has to be a issue on your end

[vocal belfry]

bro. top right corner, search "lag". nearly 50k results. That's no one?

no one "you know" you must not know any of the thousands experiencing it 🤷‍♂️

[reef onyx]

I think most agree on this

[stoic ridge]

Agree with me or against? Its just my opinion, and I get some casual players like blues only, even though blues only doesnt change how hard they are going to get stomped

[reef onyx]

Agreed with you, norms should have just stayed as purples because now all the values in blues.

[rocky bramble]

it killed purples lmao

[stoic ridge]

Unfortunately. And allowing purples in norms let players bridge the gap of experimenting with finely crafted kifs before attempting HR.

Purples are where this games build variety really starts to expand, and now its just completely overlooked

[storm helm]

thats the issue though they need to find a way to push people into highroller

[manic quarry]

can someone tell me what a db is? keep seeing it in trading post

[rocky bramble]

Boost drop rates and make bossing worth it for anyone other than the people who never die, since you need to kill bosses dozens of times on average to get one arti drop.

That would be an easy way to get people in HR.

[reef onyx]

Ye was also thinking that

[mental garden]

i wonder if the reason people are queing triple rogue is that theres no counter to it, and it's absolutely nearly guaranteed that if your team is near one at least 2 of you will die

[calm wedge]

if your trio dies to 3 rogues its a skill issue

[mental garden]

lmao okayyyy

[stoic ridge]

He's not wrong tho. Trio rogues shouldn't be thet much of an issue. Im like 90% sure that their poisons don't even stack

[tranquil helm]

game is in such a terrible place yet again no way they even bother with another season

[fierce stone]

is faustian bargain disabled in hr

[calm wedge]

stacks up to 5 which isnt even that much

[stoic ridge]

Games in a great state rn. All classes are viable lol. Fights are fun, loot feels good. New maps are cool with challenging fights

[vocal belfry]

bro. they increased loot, which is great and all.. but now i'm struggling to find a grey scroll for quest lmao

it's almost like they're nonexistent. white is lowest i can find

[stoic ridge]

Go pve crypts or gobblin caves. They sometimes spawn on tables as loose loot

[vocal belfry]

idk. haven't queued a pve yet. Can't bring myself to. Didn't think this game was ever supposed to have a mode like that lol

[stoic ridge]

It has its purposes. And honestly if it brings more players to the game then who cares.

[vocal belfry]

i can go PvE in Elden ring, or dark souls games, and have a way more polished experience with far better fight mechanics and much deeper content

[sonic veldt]

how does bargen work do I need to live runs in order to be ai?? someone explain

[stoic ridge]

Or you can pve in dark and dark and learn bosses, different enemy mechanics, or learn maps and modules you might habe trouble with.

[vocal belfry]

ai? what's ai got to do with dark and darker?

[sonic veldt]

like become the ai like a goblin or something

[vocal belfry]

i don't think you'll ever be able to be ai. unles you get elons brainchip or something. I think you mean the npc's. There's nothing ai about them tho

@sonic veldt

[stoic ridge]

So if you want to be a smart ass at least know what youre talking about. A large majority of npcs in games are ai. Dark and darker included. They are a procedural Ai, just not a generative Ai.

[stoic ridge]

For every 10 mobs you kill. You get to be 1 up to a max of 5. And only in norms

[vocal belfry]

lol. you're the oblivious one here. "AI" is an artificial intelligence that operates off of a neural network, similar to the human brain. There's absolutely nothing "intelligent" about the npc's in Dark and Darker, or "majority of npc's in other games." They are a simple hard coded "bot" with specific rulesets of IF this do THAT, otherwise DO this. They "procedurally" nor "generatively" do anything. What is "procedural" about the game, is the map arrangement. That isn't the NPC's building those maps each round though.

There's a clear difference between a bot, and AI. A bot does only what it's program tells it to do. AI makees decisions on its own.

ai npc's will be the future. And will revolutionize the game industry. But we're still a ways off from that due to the lag between ai's thinking and processing time and the player

@stoic ridge

[devout monolith]

why cant mobs habe a more random placement on the maps always the same bs over and over

[stoic ridge]

Except for the fact that this simply isn't true for how the term has been used in the tech industry for decades now. But go off!

Don't bother replying. You've been a minge all night so I won't be seeing youre messages anymore lol.

[vapid oyster]

bot is short for "robot", why are you calling npcs bots when they are clearly not robots

[ebon anchor]

does anyone knows if additional wp dmg vs physical power which is better?

[stoic ridge]

Guys a minge lol. And obviously doesnt understand this industry very well.

[vocal belfry]

if anyone in the tech industry thinks npc's are ai, they're as clueless as you. And by decades, you're talking about back to a time before ai even existed. So yeah, pretty easy for someone to call something it's not when what they're calling it doesn't even exist yet

[stoic ridge]

Or the fact that a procedural AI is one that creates different outcomes based off an algorithm, such as pathing, or a goblin shield getting hit and in retaliation immediately swinging. Vs generative Ai where it is able to create its own new outcomes.

[lone nymph]

it is ai lol

[stoic ridge]

Like I said, dude is not worth communicating with, acts like he's a know it all, when he's clueless. I just muted him. He's been like this with different topics all night. Just a narcissist

[vapid oyster]

depends, if your phys power is negative, top prio is to get it positive. After that, additional dmg is probably better, but they both make you do more dmg. Str will give you phys power and hp so there's that

[cerulean cargo]

yeah this game is unplayable ggs shits getting geleted

[storm helm]

tryna adjust to druid after playing longsword fighter for so long is tough

[vocal belfry]

it's ok to be wrong. you don't have to mute someone just because they correct you.

[lone nymph]

glad you self reflect🌞

[vocal belfry]

it's not ai though. just fyi. just because a bunch of oblivious, uneducated gamers call it that, doesn't mean it's right.

[lone nymph]

In video games, artificial intelligence (AI) is used to generate responsive, adaptive or intelligent behaviors primarily in non-playable characters (NPCs) similar to human-like intelligence. Artificial intelligence has been an integral part of video games since their inception in 1948, first seen in the game Nim.

btw this is internet search (not chat gpt) (wiki)

do ur research before trying to be a smartass online guys

[vocal belfry]

lmao

[burnt shard]

Add Map Verticality and depth and do away with the checker board style of map design.

[stoic ridge]

He's either just an uneducated narcissist or a ragebaiting narcissist at this point. You're better off ignoring him

[lone nymph]

let me have fun dude, im gaining my dose of online arguing

[stoic ridge]

Bad for brainnnnn

[lone nymph]

not really tbf, for some people its an exercise

[vocal belfry]

I'm literally a computer science major, and a programmer now for going on 20 years. Just because gamers termed something "ai" before ai even existed, doesn't make it ai

[lone nymph]

so basically ur a grumpy unc whos spent his life on useless ahh major, and now don’t trust wiki or any internet source

[neat siren]

guys I have a skill issue. I cant farm cave troll without getting teamed by the boys in blue, what other good money making methods are there?

[blazing bronze]

just the blue maelstorm, infinite gold glitch

[stoic ridge]

Dude also has crypto in his name lol

[vapid oyster]

I mostly just killed people and sell their shit

[vocal belfry]

No. I just have an education in what you think you know so much about. I fully understand where you're coming from though. And to be fair, you aren't entirely wrong. It being coined as ai in the first place is what's wrong. I'm just telling you that what ai is today, is not what "gamers" thought it was 20 years ago.

[lone nymph]

folded just cause i mentioned his major related trauma

[vocal belfry]

A computer 50 years ago took up a room the size of your house, and worked very different than a computer today you play dark and darker on. Was it still a computer? Yes. But nearly incomparable to today's PC's.

[lone nymph]

so ur point is… wheres no point in this comparison, u just know its called ai

[vocal belfry]

point is the term "ai" was coined before there was even actual ai. That's my point man. I'm not trying to argue with you.

From a technical point of view, npc's in this game and nearly most every other game, aren't actually "ai." Yes people called it that. But that was before "ai" existed. How does anyone know what it is, if it doesn't exist yet.

[lone nymph]

why bother arguing in the first place then computer is a computer, ai is ai

[stoic ridge]

Actually 50 years ago the altair had already been released and was a micro computer.

[lone nymph]

so we are just wrong now bru, npcs weren’t labelled as ai back then ofc, now we are labelling them like this because all of them fall into definitions of ai

[lone nymph]

hes stuck in 1990s when he got his goofy ahh degree

[stuck agate]

There is only one definition of ai? It’s an abbreviation….

[stoic ridge]

Yup. Its a form of ai that follows an algorithm to make choices.

[lone nymph]

top tier ragebait almost fell for it

[desert root]

Yall know the less serious you take these pixels the more fun you have

[stoic ridge]

Idk man cryptobrandos intelligence seems pretty artifical

[stuck agate]

No but it literally is… it means Artificial intelligence. And if your argument (I haven’t been reading most of the past messages, just got here) is that mobs are ai. Then yes, they are

[lone nymph]

ye, im talking about the definition of artificial intelligence as a term

[stoic ridge]

That is what we all say. Mr Brando and his 20 year old tech degree and tech industry experience is trying to say otherwise

[desert root]

Add the nemesis system gimmie a goblin with demon glee n mana sphere

[lone nymph]

argument is not related to pixels but rather to my personal entertainment

[stoic ridge]

You want them to get into another lawsuit?

[desert root]

It's shitty to put somthing like the nemesis system locked away to rot

[vocal belfry]

NPCs are “bots,” not true AI

Most traditional NPCs are rule-following bots, not genuinely intelligent agents.
They don’t think or decide — they just react to inputs according to rules written by the developer.
For example:

if (playerInSight) → attack
else if (heardNoise) → investigate
else → patrol

That’s not reasoning — it’s just a flowchart of cause and effect.

@lone nymph I can use the internet too. 👏

True AI (in the modern sense)

Real AI (like large language models, reinforcement learning agents, or neural networks) can:

Interpret complex input (like natural language or unstructured data)

Generalize from experience instead of memorizing responses

Adapt to new situations not seen during training

Sometimes even create new strategies or solutions

That’s why when people talk about “AI NPCs” today, they’re usually referring to next-gen NPCs powered by machine learning or LLMs (for example, using GPT-based dialogue, adaptive personalities, or emergent behavior).

So yes — calling traditional NPCs “AI” is more of a game industry convention than a literal truth. They simulate intelligence, but don’t possess it.

[lone nymph]

imagine having to still google things after getting a specific degree and practicing it for 20 years

[vocal belfry]

You went there first when you didn't believe me. I just went there to show you what you didn't want to see while you were there.

[lone nymph]

look dude ur basically trying to achieve knowledge supremacy here altho idgaf about whtas ai and whats not

u said what do ai have to do with npcs? u got an answer, theyre called ai, u then proceeded to accept this but tried to give a lecture about what is and what is not ai

frankly couldnt care less, u just made a shit point tried to be a smartass, folded immediately and now trying to prove that you know more lol

[lone nymph]

[weak ermine]

LLMs can neither interpret or learn from experience.

They are a random word generator with a skewed distribution and anything outside their training data does not exist.

And AI does not exist as of today.
Anything under that label is basic statistic stuff that existed for 40+ years already, now relabeled as machine learning and marketed as "AI".

[marsh adder]

Can someone price check me

[tranquil helm]

out of 100 squire matches i havent seen a single player on my team that has eyes or hands

[vocal belfry]

Still going on about something you just said you could care less? I don't know why you're still trying to argue. I just pointed out that the npc's aren't actually ai. You're the only one that wants to argue about that just because some gamers in their parents basements called it ai before ai even existed.

[desert root]

Your playing random queue squire norms witch is where majority of the new ppl are if you play with someone from the discord they will atleast know where the keyboard is

[lone nymph]

top tier self reference

[vocal belfry]

I'm not even going to bite on that one lol. Don't change dealers bro. Yours got the good stuff.

[lone nymph]

tuff

[stoic ridge]

Ggs you won

[lone nymph]

dude just baited himself into the oblivion of internet arguing

first rule of arguing online is dont mention ur science major

[lapis minnow]

If I'm going the dual wield build for fighter what would be the best armor to wear or chest outfit I also have the perk so I can't wear any plate armor

[lone nymph]

heavy gambeson/padded for more str/regal for more hp

[lapis minnow]

I was told that vigor was nerve to this season what would be the best stats for using dual-willed weapons with fighter

[vocal belfry]

@weak ermine bout to take us both to school. He fixing to drop all the know

[lone nymph]

doesnt matter, vig is hp no matter the nerf you need hp in melee builds

[weak ermine]

Thinking that an LLM can interpret = generating new data outside of the training data or learn from experience = evolving over time ... yeah, that's delusional

They generate words in order of the closest distance of the current to the next word (vector distance), fitting for the given input. That's why there are vector databases and that's why an LLM can never give you anything new outside of the training data.

It's a random word generator with a skewed distribution in non-technical terms.

[lapis minnow]

Alright thx I'ma try high roller now

[weak ermine]

NPCs are not AI because there is no AI at the moment. We have cool statistic models that existed for decades already but now we have the computer power to execute these models with much bigger data, that's the cool stuff.

Nothing intelligent about statistics, though.

[blazing bronze]

surely take this to the dms, noone cares, or just drop it

[lone nymph]

mister “almost moderator” here

if noone cared tho noone would be arguing dont ya think

we have a discussion here

[weak ermine]

Both of you have no arguments, this is a lecture from me

The crypto guy is much more hilarious than your "NPCs are called AI now" take though

[lone nymph]

shouldve read the argument from the beginning, my point makes sense from what i was arguing for not from actual ai descriptions

[lone nymph]

how bro felt after saying his presence is lecturing us, mere peasants

[vocal belfry]

You are a very special individual my friend. One of us is very delusional, you are right about that.

Of course they don't know beyond what they're trained on. How does the human brain work? Are you able to know things you don't know? If you already know something, why would you learn it? Learning is the ONLY way of gaining knowledge. Whether that be your little pea-size brain, anyone else's, or any type of intelligence whatsoever for that matter, artificial or not. Any type of intelligence has to be learned through training.... I have no idea what you're even trying to argue here, but i said i wasn't even going down your rabbit hole, and here I am lmao. I need to go to bed. You also need sleep, or something. Lots of it. I wish you well.

[abstract hazel]

Where to recommend ideas to the devs this game need QoL like drop table quiver revive multiple teammates at once etc

[weak ermine]

"Are you able to know things you don't know?"

Yes, it's called knowledge transfer, applying already gained knowledge onto new situations. Every standard human can do this if old enough.

LLMs can't though.

[vocal belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

[indigo valve]

rogue is so balanced

[stuck agate]

Does the druid's aoe passive heal have scaling?

[weak ermine]

Where did the penguin touch you?

[boreal obsidian]

true brain rot class literally only way you die is you fall asleep on your keyboard

[lethal badger]

Mending grove? No scaling

[wanton garnet]

new class idea: Dual Wielder specialize on one-handed weapons with speed and damage to Vanquish there fore

[tranquil helm]

10k player count 9k of the players want pve dulled down for the last 7 seasons hmmmmm

[stuck agate]

Question, I have 9 physical healing, and it says it affects how much resting and bandages heal, but they still heal the same amount?

[lethal badger]

Physical Healing does not affect resting without a campfire or bandages

[dire umbra]

hi when is the wipe someone here know?

[lethal badger]

No exact date, will assume it’s about 2 more months away

[dire umbra]

thank you!

[last ledge]

How da fuck do I kill the demonfly's for the woodsman quest? the keep exploading in my face when they get close and dont count

[lethal badger]

Probably long weapons like spear or halberd, unless you can burst it down fast

[last ledge]

I have been trying with the hand crossbow the second I aggro it just flies at me and explodes

[lethal badger]

It would explode the moment it reaches a certain distance from you, so in any case I recommend kiting while hitting as much as you can

[manic walrus]

Jesus #sdfs-kitchen is so tone deaf it is legitimately mind boggling to understand that is the main designer behind this game

This season literally contradicted everything he said he wanted to achieve for his "vision"; solos matched with trios, random modifiers basically fully returned, every single change that goes against the "vision" (the vision veing coexisting solos duos and trios, gear gap being minimal so the game is all about skill, high time to kill so gameplay is more "skillful")

This update precisely reverts all the changes meant to adhere to "the vision" and instead gives what the players wanted THE ENTIRE TIME. In the latest kitchen post he addresses NONE of that and pretends he knows what he's doing?? How long until "muh vision" comes back and ruins the game for 6 months again?

[wanton sparrow]

#delete_uckingsharks

[swift sentinel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/414048461412106240/1349903039959666719/umuKpbM.gif

[stuck agate]

I mean, it says resting at a campfire, but it also says bandages... in the stats page of the game

[last ledge]

Its much faster then me is the prob I cant outrun it and the second it gets in range it explodes maybe I just dont understand the range i have only found them twice

[lethal badger]

just going based off the wiki, so maybe unintended behaviour? Or intended, only the dev can confirm ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lethal badger]

If you have legendary status, maybe try a different class, otherwise you would probably have to try to cheese the demon fly into a spot where it doesn’t explode and you can shoot the fly until it’s dead

[fair plaza]

Hey who wants to play? Any server will do fine

[abstract hazel]

The vision…

[night bane]

Just take wiz and magic missile them or ranger quickshot

[cloud topaz]

whats best class rn

[neat siren]

why is this game so bad

[split pagoda]

druid?

[cloud topaz]

Solo class

[hallow crater]

NICE SDF 3 TIIME I LOOOSE A GEAR IN HR BECAUSE I GET ROLLBACK

[low umbra]

According to my calculations this could be the actual number of how many "mistakes" the human race has made during evolution...

16,460

[main lintel]

holy hell... i played druid for a few hr games... who thought it was a good idea to give panther a ms buff and hp buff hahaha... how do druids EVER die? im curious. did i just stumble upon an amazing build or is it really that easy?

[gusty sierra]

Why recent people in team dont always show, cant report teamkillers like that...

[snow wharf]

just dont fight vs plate warlock barb or fighter, then the only thing that could kill you is pve or the void lmfao

[lapis minnow]

What's better to prioritize armor rating or vigor

[rough bluff]

new to the game, ive got about 30 hours and play fighter, should i try longsword? is it viable?

[main lintel]

i didnt have any worries against plate fighter or lock.... i mean they CANNOT even hit you.... you are perma 330s

[snow wharf]

depenends on the class, fighter pdr > vigor barb viger > pdr in my opinion, might be wrong

[snow wharf]

yeah but if they have a brain they will wait till you close the gap the hit them and then hit you, and warlock with the buffed shield and the soul collector that first hit is devastating XD, btw how much agi you stacking?

[sonic maple]

Druid...? OP ..
?

[marble warren]

anyone got ideas on how to kill Marlin? they're so fast

[marble warren]

wait holy shit. you can't solo into trio's anymore? wth?

L change ngl

[tribal zodiac]

I just read kitchen... the hell thy going to make HR PvE :d

[stuck agate]

Do different items have a higher luck cap? Or is it the same for all items

[tribal zodiac]

Luck work like "higher rarity on item spawned in monster".
It doesnt give you chance for Artifact or quest item for example.

[stuck agate]

I was just asking because rings can't go over 30 from i've seen in the aution, but my crossbow has 54. I didn't know if different items have different max luck capacity

[cunning summit]

can't wait till the 30th so this game can finally di4e

[marsh plover]

I heard somone say water map is coming to hr soon is that true or no?

[fervent jasper]

Anyone know what the health of the troll bosses is in highroller currently? I thought it got buffed but I can’t remember

[lethal badger]

Maybe this will help https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Bosses

[signal nymph]

Sure do love getting goblins caves over and over and over again in hr... thanks @glad thunder @zinc sparrow

[vocal vine]

the amount of teaming in norms is silly

[stuck agate]

What does a token of honor do?

[radiant notch]

is the game down rn???

[radiant notch]

better than ice caves'

[whole rose]

can we sue for custody of the game from the abusive devs

[lone marsh]

Remove entering in already going matches

[halcyon yew]

How do u feel about this? Imagine Barb with 2 bardisches running like meet slicer (already is with hatchet) 😄

SDF: "Building on this, our goal for the next season is to introduce new abilities to as many existing classes as possible, while implementing ideas that can inspire more exciting styles of play. For example, the Barbarian might gain a skill that allows them to throw their weapon, or a perk that lets them wield a two-handed weapon in each hand.

And just imagine, how fun would it be if you could throw the two-handed weapons you’re holding in each hand? I’m not exactly sure what will happen, but I’m looking forward to seeing some interesting situations unfold.

[barren trellis]

Yea imagine a projectile that hits u in the head, deals 80+ dmg,and literally stops u in place,that sounds like a fun and interactive game mechanic, this game lost its original purpose a long time ago

[halcyon yew]

Barb Squire kit - 2 bardische, 10 stacks of potions, buy 4 bardische 😄

But I can imagine it can be balanced. That projectile can fly pretty slow (I know it wont) and loose some of dmg (we all know it wont) 😄

[barren trellis]

If sdf rly wants to make barb throw stuff,make him able to lift up barrels,or boxes, or some items that are already in the dungeon
U are welcome for the ideas,devs,i am not charging for them

[halcyon yew]

I have a dream, that one day, Cleric wont be stupid enough to not be able to use anything ranged. As cleric i feel like... You have to play it wrong way with +50000 agility, or not play solo. Only ranged thing he can use is drum. Frekin drum. 😄

[barren trellis]

Sdf just needs to play baldur's gate, copy paste and adapt the abilities from there,easy job

[eager plover]

Graveyard turned into an actuall graveyard XD EVERY match people run to it and i love it. we had 6 people fighting each other no remorse LMAO

[hoary parcel]

No, druid would be too strong, ow wait it already is

[abstract hazel]

The vision is nearly complete..

[winter ember]

guys i never got my demi god rewards from last season is anyone else still having this issue?

[plain ravine]

Why does wisp take away all my buffs from a whole entire room away through a closed door?

im a bard btw so this is CRUCIAL...

[sinful echo]

The bargain concerns me because I believe there is no way to make it fun for players to fight player controlled monsters because the monster player doesn’t lose anything while the player can lose everything this will lead to more fustration and less player retention

[swift ether]

Good rage bait.

[swift ether]

Meant for crafting

[toxic notch]

What yall think is best duo comp?

[winter tinsel]

They should just drop a coin guaranteed. That makes the encounter worth it for the player. Still problematic though, it almost seems better suited to an end of wipe "fiesta" style event

[winter tinsel]

Played 40 agi cleric in arena and still felt like it wasn't enough at times lmao

[reef onyx]

I deleted my character ( wasn't thinking , wanted name change)and lost everything 😞

[dense pawn]

"I'm not exactly sure" sums up "the vision"

[bronze axle]

What are the sash's for that the tailor makes ?

[olive lotus]

For swag 😎

[bronze axle]

They don't give stats or anything ?

[reef onyx]

When they removed name tags sashes helped distinguish teammates from enemies... Now it's just for aesthetics

[fringe garnet]

They're just there for the fashion

[neon blaze]

Boys, is it soy that i absolutley hate wizard magic missile and ranger shotgun? i feel like it punishes me as a melee class for closing the fucking distance on a range character

[alpine marsh]

why do I block and still get hit. Why can't the net code be fixed? just got bocked to the head even though I predicted it and blocked it

[neon blaze]

after eating the 30 bullets and the 20 fireballs why am i getting punished for gap closing

[reef onyx]

Use shield or duck/ circle around fast

[neon blaze]

i run lantern as a barb for the movespeed, and 80% of the time magic missle goes through the shield/ aims for the feet

[reef onyx]

Circling around them works quite well you move faster than the missiles

[dreamy topaz]

How to enter Castle map quickly? Any bug aviable?

[fringe garnet]

Selecting the Forgotten Castle tends to help

[prisma dove]

nerf druid im about to lose my shit dude..

im tweaking hard rn

[dreamy topaz]

Yeah it worked when i had ability to click "Do not fill" in trio, but in solo i have to spend around 1000 gold to get into HR castle, kill myself everytime i get goblin or ice.
And because they force people to play trio as a "TRIO" i've been waiting now for 17 minutes in "Finding match" so, is there any faster option?

Because your trick doesnt work.

And trio is almost guaranteed chance for Castle, thats why.

[olive lotus]

How to select forgotten castle in HR? Any tips? Any tricks?

[dreamy topaz]

@fringe garnet And because i do only Spectral / Banshee, you are forcing me to literally ruin the game for other 2 people who might wanna go ghost or lich etc.. because i do only my bosses and leave.

[fringe garnet]

Ya can't, it's random

[olive lotus]

[dreamy topaz]

Then how do i play solo with 100% chance for castle so i dont ruin other people experience? Because castle is almost guaranteed chance in trio and maybe 1 in 10 in solo?

[fringe garnet]

You can't.

[torn mason]

would be fun if you could host custom games with your friends, to 1v1 them

[fringe garnet]

It's random by design

[dreamy topaz]

https://tenor.com/qZkXLqaAKYt.gif

[olive lotus]

The design is for everyone to take the boat immediately after loading into ice caves 🤯

[fringe garnet]

Relatable

[marble warren]

I prefer Icecaves over Ruins and Gobo

[fringe garnet]

I wish Frost Caverns had a boss

[olive lotus]

So fun and epic I love paying 100 gold to take a boat and waste time

[fringe garnet]

Okay well you do loot the map before boat so

The gold isn't really a loss as long as you loot before leaving

[marble warren]

honestly the queue change is an L tho

[cursive shuttle]

1st game of the day and I run into a druid that in base form, has a ms of 303. While I, with weapon out, ambush up, am rocking 315.

I get the sneak attack off, and SOMEHOW!!!! This dude is able to walk faster than I am....with 12 movement speed lower than me, when I was already hugging him. Like, okay game.

[dapper flame]

Will you be able to play the adventure pve mode as a solo still? Or will it require a 3 person party now?

[marble warren]

PvE can still be done without filling party

[dapper flame]

Thank you

[dreamy topaz]

Depends, iam otp spectral/banshee, so everytime i get anything else than castle ill just kill myself and que again, so thanks to this genius new design i can't even bring a single piece of equipment with me.

[carmine vigil]

just take boat or lift then

[dreamy topaz]

Lift in goblins is atleast a few minutes waiting, boat is faster but still if iam not close its another extra minutes.

[carmine vigil]

unlucky then i guess

[dreamy topaz]

Yep, only option is to ruin game for others thanks to this design..

until this bug is fixed

[carmine vigil]

That's not your only option, it's just the option you are choosing

[dreamy topaz]

What other options are there? Either spend 1000 gold aprox. to get to castle in solo, or wait 10+min for trio with almost guaranteed chance for castle.

[carmine vigil]

Exactly, there are other options lol why do you even care so much about doing HR banshee/spectral anyways when they dont drop artifacts?

[scarlet bronze]

they are working on HR pve, so wait for that i guess

[dreamy topaz]

because thats how i like to play the game? idc about artifacts, i like goldpile and uniques instead.

[carmine vigil]

There are so many other gold piles lol

[dreamy topaz]

Yeah but they dont contain spectral knight. @scarlet bronze Hopefully it wont take x months..

@carmine vigil I dont know why i can't play the game i want? It worked fine until they decided to create problems that never existed

[carmine vigil]

Have you ever heard the saying you can't always get what you want

[dreamy topaz]

Yeah, so i choosed the options i've been given, as i said before, what's wrong about it?

[carmine vigil]

I never said there was anything wrong with it lol

[dreamy topaz]

If its not wrong then dont tell me i have other options, there are no other, i simply hate ice cavern and goblin caves i wont even talk about.

[carmine vigil]

But factually there are other options, we can't pretend there aren't just because you don't like them

[dreamy topaz]

That's true, but why would they create a problem that never existed? Noone ever complained about needing to have random rotation, they tried rotation every few minutes before, that was ok, still guaranteed chance for castle, but now?

If i simply dont like to play that map in the game and it was always option to don't, then its too late to force me otherwise now.

And they keep creating more and more toxic environment, what's next?
HR Behind dlc paywall?
Social security number to play the game.

[carmine vigil]

That's a bit of a stretch lol

[dreamy topaz]

Not at all, there are more marketplace slots behind paywall, instead gold like stash, and for example to play CN league you need to have social security number on acc.
But that wasn't my point..

Like, iam trying to enjoy the game, it was possible to go solo castle before yesterday's update that made it impossible to que solo for trio.

[carmine vigil]

That's a them problem, not a worldwide problem

[runic inlet]

Hi guys is it the last week to get skelly skin from religion donations?

[whole trail]

You have the entire wipe to get the skin. The weekly donation number resets but the overall amount you donated stays

[runic inlet]

Thank you kind mister

[winter tinsel]

You prob just got slowed while swinging weap. Dagger hits don't slow much on hit

[charred frigate]

how did they mess up water map so bad LMAO they took away literally everything that made it worth playing

• pirates are now casually immune to projectiles until you get close enough to aggro them, which wasn't even a bug in the first patch

[cursive shuttle]

I was using a short sword. I had max move speed lol.

[winter tinsel]

Were you jump swinging? Sounds like the swing animation just slowed you down too much

[cursive shuttle]

Nope, popped out of ambush, literally touching the guy, and he walked away from me lol.

[timber imp]

what map is everyone playing the most?

[whole trail]

It is always the forgotten castle

[timber imp]

👍

[kindred elbow]

Sdf no I beg of you
No battle royale circle

[mystic marsh]

SDF removing circle?

[lone marsh]

circle is not needed at all

[golden jungle]

i think its not really necessary to divide the HR sections. but his words "normal to HR is too steep" is more like ok. on one hand you have normal with a couple elite enemies and HR except 3 or 4 mobs everything is nightmare and you dont have a chance to fight nightmare mobs in normal to practice patterns for example. why dont they just revert it that nightmare is like elite like it is in normal. why are there so many nightmare mobs in HR

[teal hearth]

cant connect to game servers wtf

[stuck agate]

Why does stuff despawn in the ship graveyard? i died, my duo rezzed me, and when I got back my body had despawned... this was in pve

[steady aspen]

anyone else not getting the gold when they claim a trade?

[vast kayak]

gotta give up on the random dungeon and circle concepts. it's never going to work in this game. no need to test any longer. if it's implemented in PvE HR, will soon find out that it's not popular there either. doesn't make sense that during a dev qna, active viewers (aka players) are polled and 90% want something gone, yet we keep it in the game.

[marble warren]

Bodies don't despawn, they either fall to the ocean floor, or float to the top

[stuck agate]

Nah bro, that thing was gone... must have fallen through the map or something, because i went to where i died, and it was gone...

[marble warren]

only time I've had a body disappear completely was dying over the Maelstrom on new map. there is no "floor" down there for the body to fall to

[winter marlin]

We still believe that the step from Normal to High Roller is too steep, so we are currently considering dividing the High Roller into HR1 and HR2

Oh boy, here we go again. Repeating the same mistakes over and over again till the game population becomes negative. Never learn.

[gentle glen]

lol if only the game have enough player, now with 2 HR. the lobby is dead or fill with team-up zombies

[agile tide]

Don’t they float?

[sinful glacier]

bro this is whack. i can only wear blue gear into dungeons? wearing 1 or 2 purples in high roller and im dead

[rugged blaze]

when was wipe

[cobalt echo]

why is finding any kind of information for this game so damn difficult? something as simple as revive spots on the new sea map is literally impossible to find, you have to go and watch videos to get any sort of information, same with key door locations, boss locations etc

[broken dome]

Damn bro, you might have to play the game and start taking notes and sharing info with friends

Honestly finding a game where everything hasnt been completely figured out and data dumped can be a nice change of pace

[brave mango]

Sea map isnt static, just memorise

[robust schooner]

anyone know a video with a good rouge build

[keen mauve]

there's lots of sources out there, what are you on about

[raw hare]

Are the ques super long?

[cobalt echo]

such as?

no wiki, nothing in images, no links

[crystal scarab]

Than make a site that has this information?

[cobalt echo]

stupid ass argument, go ride something else

[tight acorn]

fewer clown emojis than hearts on the recent kitchen posts? are we seeing a comeback? 😮

[keen mauve]

There is a wiki, its a little outdated but information on there is still relevant. Reddit post, theres like 2 interactive maps where you can find certain mobs, spawns, rooms, etc

https://darkanddarkertracker.com/maps

One of them for example from quick google search

[cobalt echo]

Sea map bro

[cobalt echo]

i havent seen this website, looks really nice, i stand corrected my bad, thanks for this 🙂

[raw hare]

Need to take a deep breath sometimes.

[keen mauve]

I don't think anyone has done sea map yet but there are some "cheat sheets" out there

[warm tendon]

REMOVE FAUSTIAN GRIEF FROM GAME. THANK YOU

[wraith stag]

Omg, they will retain this circle in HR ....

[reef onyx]

nightmares should not spawn on the 1st floor

[wraith stag]

I just cant think one single good point in this stup circle and random hr maps

[mellow charm]

pve mode all the reward no risk

[runic inlet]

Hi guys do you know when the sesson will end?

[noble crag]

same question, any idea how long the season is?

[noble crag]

red mobs should have nightmare mechanics, just slower and less dmg, and all mobs in normal should be red after going down (most are)

[urban sierra]

whats the treasure room location?

[last ledge]

Do I need to be the person that kills a mob for a quest? can I just tag it or do I need to do the last hit?

[urban sierra]

nah if your mates kill it it counts

[robust schooner]

with the goblin troll boss and its heavy charged swing how can i tell when it will do an underhand or overhand swing

[green thunder]

Do gear brackets still exist or is matchmaking just based of the dungeon you queue for now?

[tulip iris]

yeah the only reason i dont play dark and darker is HR mobs. normals is braindead boring because people cant be geared, but hr mobs dont interest me

[frosty cove]

I wonder what spells they are gonna add to warlock! Hopefully some more slows

[grim kelp]

coming back to the game after a while, so every lobby is just rogues now lol, ratting rogues i should say

[keen mauve]

The 330 MS warlock with book out definitely needs a slow spell

[wild trout]

seasonal map rotation
PLEASE PUT ICE CAVERNS OUT OF IT SDF I BEG OF YOU

[frigid remnant]

hey yall, quick question. is the gear score brackets back yet? i havent played since they removed it

[muted bay]

what is mystical gem for

[wooden ferry]

I just lost a 20K kit in normals due to disconnecting, and died to one skeleton, is there any change i can get gear recovery? i really have zero clue how it works in the current patch

[warm rune]

I mean it can stay in if they decrease mob hp, density, and make a frozen version of crypts bosses

[worldly warren]

anyone can give a TLDR on what SFD wrote on what he intends on changing? ty in advance

[warm rune]

Add to the game current, postpone future content, work on existing content to make it better

[grand shadow]

do squire quests matter this season for getting white squire gear or no?

[worldly warren]

ty <3

[wooden ferry]

does anyone know how dungeon recoveries work plssss

[warm sun]

the goblin ones? only on adventure mode

[little escarp]

Write to support, you can access it in the game

[wooden ferry]

ARGGGG oh ok

[little escarp]

And it was a normal trip or adventure

[vestal vault]

kit stealing is all normals now, people go in bis and take bis to make money. that whole concept was not the dark and darker i remember in beta lmao

[wooden ferry]

ty for the infoooo

[warm sun]

opening a stone wall with pile in it

[wooden ferry]

heartbroken though that was my fav kit </3 Wouldnt even be salty if i died to anything else the disconnect deaths are just devious

[ruby mural]

Guy’s, these developers have zero and I mean ZERO respect for the player base or the time they put into the game. Please stop playing the game and move onto an another game that DOES respect your time invested. SDF does not deserve your time or money.

[sullen mesa]

Anyone seen you can buy 10g for 30g ? lmao

[warm rune]

bro just log off what are u doing

[scarlet wharf]

Seems like you haven't moved on yet 🤔

[ruby mural]

Trying to get the player base to have some self respect as well as kill this game.

[ruby mural]

You are correct on the account that I haven’t emotionally moved on, i desperately want SDF to fail for all the bs he’s puts the player base through, but I haven’t touched the game since the day the water map released.

[scarlet wharf]

Well other players are enjoying the game still. Not everyone is wanting the game to die.

[ruby mural]

…uh huh….thats what I’m trying to change…I just said that

[scarlet wharf]

Well good luck with that and have a good day, sorry to tell you this you won't be changing my mind 😉

[ruby mural]

Why is that?

[halcyon void]

how do you turn the chat back on?

[deft moat]

Game is good. Me like game.

[icy jewel]

Fix the god damn club against shield. You can 100% hit past shield by jumping

[scarlet wharf]

I enjoy the game simple

[cobalt echo]

Do i use the golden key in crypt? i found it on first floor of forgotten castle

[ruby mural]

So respect for yourself and your time is not a factor in your gaming choices at all? (This next question is not a jab at you and I promise that) do you have a job? And how long have you been playing the game?

[wild parcel]

7200 hours been playing since ~June 2024 have not been employed in that time

[wispy siren]

anyone else’s block list been messed up

[wild parcel]

I never got good 🙁

[stuck agate]

Yeah it’s in the crypt. I got one earlier, and when I went to the room it was already looted

[mild rapids]

why is this game stuttering SO MUCH right now?

[hot walrus]

yeah im done with it lol

[zealous wing]

Ain’t a crybaby biaaaatch

[ruby mural]

Thank you

[hot walrus]

devs nerf the chance for my favorite map then say they’re concrete in their decision to keep random hr selection. im def not playing anymore

[ruby mural]

I’m almost certain you never got a full kit of uniques either have you? And that’s not me putting you down, I put roughly 5,000 hours in myself and never once found a named item organically, much less a full kit of uniques

[ruby mural]

Thank you friend

[warm rune]

Account

[warm rune]

Play norms lol, 0 upsides to ice caves except gold farming

[wild parcel]

Never had unique never killed a boss except cyclops. I just stomp timmies and get stomped

[ruby mural]

See I was killing all the bosses (except warlord) and STILL never got a named item.

[wild parcel]

I truly believe SDF harvests and gratifies himself on causing pain and suffering

[vapid oyster]

in norms or HR tho

[ruby mural]

HR brother, 5,000 hours I am aware of what the loot tables are, and believe me I was watching YouTube videos like crazy and trying my HARDEST to find one.

[warm ingot]

Lol youre trying to ruin other people enjoying something?

[vapid oyster]

damn

[ruby mural]

No I’m trying to show people they can have much for fun (and respect for the gaming) playing something else that takes those things into account. 🙂

[ruby mural]

Right, like I’m aware that’s mainly me just not getting lucky but my point is SDF has does a lot to disrespect and out right ignore the player base with PRIDE non the less. If anyone doesn’t understand the idea of “the devs having respect for players time” please just ask.

[restive lichen]

Remove slow from throwables

Just got chased down by a barbarian as bard after applying speed debuff to him because he hit me with one little axe boy and shouted once. This is not okay

[storm helm]

welcome to dark and darker brother its a cringe ass game

[ruby mural]

That’s why everyone should stop playing the game in my opinion. There is far better games out there, with devs that actually respect your time. 🙂

[storm helm]

kinda like how my ranger shouldnt be 1 tapping with shotgun i hit a bear in the ass and 2 tapped him

[tulip iris]

i have seen cartel torture videos that seem more enjoyable than HR pve

[vapid oyster]

that's exactly the point of throwables lmfao

[dim orbit]

when the vape/season ends?

[ruby ridge]

21 games today 19 goblin and 2 frost, 0 ruins, as soon as i go in squire i get ruins @zinc sparrow fix the damn highroller ffs

[keen mauve]

Rule #1 of HR, do not Q HR

[sonic maple]

Imagine quitting because you don't get ice map wild

[tulip iris]

in normals i steamroll everything and have 0 fun because its braindead pubstomping. in HR i get steamrolled and spend 99% of my time slowly killing mobs, without ever getting to have fun PVP encounters. does SDF have a kink of getting punished by monster or whats the deal with HR pve being so annoying.,

[cobalt echo]

are certain modules not guaranteed to spawn?

[sonic maple]

Omg are they going to nerf the mob density of every map like they did with gc? Please stop catering to casuals what is this HR pve for the gold farmers crud

[tulip iris]

like in normals i can farm money easily but whats the point when the game doesnt allow me to upgrade my gear, unless i upgrade my gear just to throw myself into HR hell

the worst part of it all is that HR has new mobs that require practice, and yet u cant even chose to learn 1 map at a time.

[keen mauve]

Mobs aren't even that hard in HR though

[keen mauve]

Yes since maps are randomly generated now, some modules won't spawn. Crypts is more than likely to miss some modules especially if the ring module spawns

[tulip iris]

they absolutely are xD. and even if i was able to perfectly dodge every attack with 100% success it would still be boring spending most of my game playing against PVE.

[tardy spire]

i am currently bugged. i switch between stuff instantly but i cant cast spells, can swing halberd tho. wth is this? also cant interact with anything

[simple sky]

Sheesh

[fair monolith]

they really need to fix mob aggro

[wanton sparrow]

understood - my boredoom grows on stupid sharks: dont have a shield? just d*e! You can't swim away, you can't properly defend as it usually just dont give a sh on your blocks... #deletesharks

[sonic maple]

Try using VPN then disconnecting it

[tardy spire]

unplugged my ethernet cable and reloaded game. everything works, ty!

[proper parrot]

hows the current state of the game going?

[old latch]

best game oat

[sonic maple]

Oatmeal

[stuck agate]

How does using gems on equipment work? Does the gem and the equipment have to be the same rarity?

[old latch]

yes

[stuck agate]

I see, I thought the rarity of the gem made the stat it gave better, thank you

[glossy ice]

what are diamonds used for now? i remember you could exchange them for other gems, but can't find where it was

[old latch]

treasurer

[glossy ice]

i'm dumb I completely missed it, ty

[rough stirrup]

i need help with an error it says "Failed to connect to the server quit the game" what i do ???

[placid marlin]

Where can I find human remains?

[fallow kindle]

can you use gear that is looted but not found by you for arena

[placid marlin]

yes you can

[fallow kindle]

thanks was just confused cause ive been bringing stuff out of raid but it doesnt say found by me

[fair monolith]

druid tried walking in mid warlord to counter me and i beat his ass in a worse kit

[ruby ridge]

now 6 ice cave in a row wtf @zinc sparrow Let me in ruins holy fk

[flint shadow]

@placid marlin I forget the module name, but it’s in inferno, the room that has a gate to open by multiple skeletons and a dreadspine underneath some vases and breakable wood. If your looking at the gate while above the dreadspine, you need to open it and the human remains will be on the ground to the left, before the golden/ lions head chest

[viral storm]

Does war song on bard work on yourself?

[flint shadow]

Yes metro

[ruby ridge]

@glad thunder focosing on the complete wrong stuff in changes like who cares about ppl solo in trio, remove the random highroller and ppl stop playing normal and going for some highroller

[viral storm]

Thanks

[agile tide]

Blood Prison

[jagged folio]

thought solo's couldn't queue into duo/trios solo anymore? Just played solo into duos

[placid marlin]

I know the room, but do I have to go down to the basement?

[wooden spoke]

anyone have a picture of a shield fighter kit that i could base my kit off of

[mental garden]

is party chat disabled? keep getting error

[agile tide]

Nope
It’s through the iron gate
Look at the big chest
Look left
On the floor by the brazier

[mental garden]

did i make someone mad and now cant use pty chat text

[tranquil flax]

switching from purples to blues makes like 1% difference im still getting mogged by a bis barbarian in blues

[vapid oyster]

might have to consider the possibility it's not the gear lol

[barren ingot]

There’s no way you guys are adding PvE high roller…. Like what the fuck are you people smoking. It still seems like these devs are completely clueless about the future of this game. How is this a good idea? We all know who’s playing this mode 24/7 and just selling gold. That’s all that coming out of doing this

[weary herald]

how much shit do i need to kill to not be a spider in gobbos?

[paper vigil]

hey, i had 2 games where i exited with a key (gold and skeleton) on both games i ended up not seeing the keys in my inventory, was there an update or something that only allows you to use them one time and when you get them or is there a bug or something else?

[vapid oyster]

can't extract keys now

[wide depot]

Which merchant give you the quest with the torchskin/stingrayegg?

[tranquil flax]

im decent id say

[vapid oyster]

If you can't handle blue capped lobbies you're bad

[fringe marsh]

Why does ghost king scream randomly just do a thon of damage without any stacks? is it bugged?

[vernal iris]

anyone know when this wipe ends?

[mental garden]

it's definitely much better now for sure

[agile tide]

Youll just have to wear some gear, that’s how they want the game to be. Blues arent hard to find

[tranquil flax]

i have gear its just if you go in squire its like no chance

[agile tide]

Well yeah but that’s what they’re trying to do tbh
I also used to like brain off squire lobbies but they are gone
And tbh I’m not building kits for norms cuz jt seems like a waste of time

So I just play HR

[icy jewel]

Fix the goddamn clubs hitting past shields

[drowsy gorge]

Cockatrice feathers man...

[neon star]

Dude fuxking, have killed 3 skeleton knights with no golden key

Just trying to finish my quests

[delicate solar]

Who knows what to do if main menu shows "0 of 0 characters"? Got that before sometimes, but simple restart fixed it, now it doesn't.

[vernal sparrow]

so they are adding pve hr next season?

[mental garden]

Rogue invis lasts 40-50s or?

[lapis minnow]

If I'm using sword and shield on fighter what sword should I be using

[inland tinsel]

Dumb question, I knew it was a disaster last time they tried but are they ever going to try multi classing again the BarBEARian must live on

[storm drum]

Hi new here, wanted to do some pvp, and everytime I go against high lvl full gear, my question is are they gonna had some kind of fair match making in the future?

[upbeat cave]

God I hope not, let multiclassing be 6ft under. But based on these devs track record, I’m sure they will add it because if there is one thing they are good at it’s messing the game up

[reef onyx]

More than 2 months

[upbeat cave]

Believe it or not this IS their fair matchmaking they implemented lol

[stuck agate]

Is there an upgrade to the divine blade? Does it have an epic and/or legendary version?

[storm drum]

Lol ok thanks for info

[agile tide]

Basically you either play squire mode or you wear a kit, but they said they’re gonna shake it up again next season so who knows.

[tulip iris]

bad compared to when i last played

[random lotus]

has anyone seen the new artifacts? what's the deal with those

[river rapids]

where is the select region button located at?

[weary herald]

how do i get my faustian after i misclicked continue spectating?

[bronze gorge]

Where is the gold in goblin caves now? Didnt see the doors in the old room

[agile tide]

Between bosses when both are dead

[bronze gorge]

are the doors below the boss rooms again?

[agile tide]

Yeah the doors are in the boss loot rooms

[ruby mural]

Everyone should abandon this game. The devs do not respect you, your money, or your time invested in the game.

[river rapids]

can anyone help with the select a region option

[bronze gorge]

@agile tide tytyty!
@ilovecats in the bottom right, above the settings buttons
@latent I don't think you can unfortunately

[stuck agate]

And why is that?

[river rapids]

@bronze gorge holy shit thanks so much

[hardy stump]

play rags to riches mode

[fallen kayak]

I really hope HR gets better
The que times are so long and the random maps suck
And it seems like everyone in HR is in squire ratting or geared with all legendary and unique weapons

[timber oasis]

this game actually so bunz bro, I was doing cave troll I got got flipping killed by a archer goblin player, aye devs fix your entire game pls

[ruby mural]

As stated in the message the devs have no respect your the players, their money, or time.

[cobalt echo]

any tips on finding these goddamn protection potions? ive been stuck on this quest for like 3 days now lmao, ive found 2 but i died in those runs

[timber oasis]

real

[stuck agate]

That's not on the devs... that's just a skill issue

[cobalt echo]

too bad, ill play because its fun

[timber oasis]

break pots, you'll prolly find one in there

[ruby mural]

Enjoy 😉

[cobalt echo]

i swear its always a bandage or a water breathing pot

[timber oasis]

1 year ago it was so much better, I remember, I came back for 2 weeks and it's still good ofc but I can never kill any1, there are always ppl with bis in the lobby actualluy molesting the entire lobby

[timber oasis]

hahah unlucky bro, ohhh, w8 I know where u can find one, just on the 2nd lvl of forgotten castle, always ton of protection or water breathing potions

[cobalt echo]

yeah, its not fun when a rogue in bis is 2shotting you

[timber oasis]

or barb

[ruby mural]

Oh not fun you say lol

[stuck agate]

That doesn't mean that the game is bad. It's still one of the best first person sword fighting games. Yeah all the competition has third person, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a good game

[timber oasis]

yh, but theey can do a better job at keeping the game alive ngl

[ruby mural]

I didn’t say anything about third person, or the game itself being bad brother.

[paper mulch]

funny you say that just got 3 shot by a rogue in normals as a barbarian with 169 hp

[fallen kayak]

Yeah I thought the game was doing really well when we had 124-224 hr, ruins and Gobi caves werent randomized
Then it just seemed like every patch after that got worse and worse

[cobalt echo]

oml cry me a river bro, if you really wanted to quit the game you wouldnt be here telling us about your little sob story... cry somewhere else about how the devs dont care about you 💀

[timber oasis]

[cursive bay]

I haven't played for a year, it's crazy to see rogues standing up to PDR fighters. Before, they tried to catch you by surprise from behind, now they don't care at all.

[fallen kayak]

I kind of miss the gear score limits felt like everyone was on a somewhat equal playing field

[cobalt echo]

jesus lmao

[timber oasis]

hahah so real bro, exactly the same here

[paper mulch]

Poison damage is crazy ig cuthroat too

[stuck agate]

I never said that you did... but you're saying we should stop playing it. I'm giving you an argument as to why I'll keep playing it

[cursive bay]

Rogue have hard counter now ?

[timber oasis]

yeah bro fr, gear score was 10x better

[paper mulch]

just play rogue and trade with poison damage

[stuck agate]

Yeah, a skilled fighter

[timber oasis]

nah, another rogue

[ruby mural]

I have quit the game, and I’m only here to try and get gamers to have a little self respect so devs stop getting away with incredibly horrendous decision making and straight up lies. 🙂

[cursive bay]

And one cleric ?

[cobalt echo]

i actually remember this last time i played, i didnt really get into it nearly as much but after returning to the game ive been having a blast with my friend or solo, looting and trying out different builds and classes, trying out different maps and learning the bosses

[timber oasis]

haha I'm donig it rn, relearning the game

[cobalt echo]

also working towards the 100k religion skin, im 70k of the way