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hey do u know if i lose ,my stuff in arena ?
its not stating your opinion anymore, its an arguement with that nyx guy you went so deep into with your "arguments" and now when he points you wrong you just assume he has a big ego trying to defend your own comfort from accepting you are wrong
is this proving me wrong writing a condescending message like this you clearly dont understand
considering you are saying stuff like I have a god complex for taking part in an argument that you are also in, I think I will also have my fun making fun of you, as fun as this is already
i can tell you have this snarky attitude which just make me despise you
wow, welcome to the internet man, although if an argument about a game with a complete stranger is enough to make you despise someone, I think that probably says more about you than me, you may despise me but I will probably forget about you in a few hours
that was not hard lets keep it a buck you corny as hell
i gotta play the game so im done messing around in here you corny as hell you should probably take a break from sitting in here all day typing
just admit that caster is broken so we can just move on
someone pls tell me whats the counter play to a pirate axeman sneaking up to me and killing me in the water. I keep dying to them cant run away and if I fight they out dps me
none? okay
funny you mention that since you were in here typing before I got here, always the projecting with you
dont listen to BRTsn hes rage baiting
you guys should make a club
solo hr full of rogues ?
all games are full of rogues
does anyone know how often does dealmaker merchant store refresh?
be a penguin and swim away
Im sorry my brain is drawing a blank if i bought my set of market will i lose it in arena still or is that no longer a thing?
take out running from the game 😂😂
take dealing damage from the game and then everything will be balanced
you will not lose it
What is worth investing gold into? like gold ore etc
You don’t lose it
do i lose my items on arena? i mean armors
has anyone ever dodged giant spider purple spit?
when new perks
Anyone else get a game crash on forgotten castle when the match ending effects start to take place?
Hi everybody, what is the physical Domage reduction max ?
They need to nerf projectiles bad they should not be doing nearly as much as a melee or more
Checking in if this game is good yet?
Umm... are you supposed to go to ice abyss from crypts nowdays?
where is the frost wyvern hide armor? its not in my crafting option i have 225 leathermsith
How do you access the fortress thing on water map? I know you can destroy a wood panel on the side and get in but can't activate the bridge on top to go to the other side. The fortress you can zipline on top of, not the one with locked doors
why does throwing knifes do 1/6 your hp, rogues already has a knife that can drill into people, lets make it even more cancer
You have to be a good 10 ft away to dodge, but you can block it
Bard - Perk/Skill - Encore Skill - Does this skill, also reset the music buff duration on the caster/bard itself ?
Can we talk about white shark control by a players ??
Is there any plan on restricting gear in normlas? Cause this is kinda unplayable
What’s y’all’s best kill count in one game? I
like 9
back when it took actual skill and not just gear diffing people in squire gear
I can skill did people still with rogue 😂
thats because rogue is absurd rn lol
Rogue is perfect right now 😂
nerf is gonna be perfect
You sound like a sorc main
double jump with no penalty is too good and dagger mastery shouldnt give extra true damage
One true damage isn’t that crazy 😂
they dont need more true damage
if you don't think rogue needs a nerf rn you gotta be a lobotomite
Dark reflection builds wipe them right now
oh one build on one class, that's crazy
You nerf them with 1 clean headshot
if you can catch them without having 20 throwing knives stuck in your legs
Rogue just takes skill, you’re fast, hit hard but can’t take a hit. Spacing in this game is important and most people fail to understand it
please get a 2nd lobotomy
scoop it all out
What’s your main class
thats how it should be but rogue doesnt really need to undergo any thought rn, they're too strong
spacing on the class with the highest move speed in the game is not difficult whatsoever
this
Nah homie, it still takes skill.
he's baiting, just ignore the lobotomite
But understanding weapons sweet spots and using that to your spacing does. And most players don’t understand that
Is that your new word for the day?
lick my sweet spot
Aww we have a big tuff guy hiding behind a little screen 😂
toxic masculinity final boss
Nah I’m just not a pus that hides behind images and a screen. Trying moving out of your parents basements
the projection is crazy lmfaooo
3/10 ragebait
Wild. Y’all enjoy the minimal wage jobs or unemployment.
u too big homie
Enjoy the next patch notes when rogue gets buffed 🫡
is the elven bow of truth still in the game? if so what is its drop chances and where can I find it?
rogue is honestly one of the few classes in the game that requires some degree of skill and is fun to play
Thank you 🙏🏿
what are the arena rules now? do you drop anything?
why am i getting crazy rubberbanding today???
It does but it is completely OP atm, unfortunately. Mid to BIS gear rogue can shit on any class of similar gear.
At this point, it's basically standard practice for IM to leave metas unchecked for 1-2 months every beginning of wipe. They are doing harm to their player base by not addressing this in a timely manner. I thought they had a "balance team" as opposed to having sdf only on balance changes, but doesn't seem like it changed much.
Let's have a quick look at rogue:
- fastest base ms, so easiest to get to ms cap
- can now easily stack hp to 160hp (there is something off with the vigor hp curve for sure)
- in mid to BIS gear can 3 or 4 shot any class of similar gear level while having one of the fastest attack rates (adrenaline slayer fighter can compete)
- add invisibility and/or cut throat on top of that
- double jump has no downside but has huge advantages: janky dodges make ranged attack prediction very hard, melee fights unfair (you hit legs they hit head), they can heal/equip dagger while running with no ms penalty
It's not about one single element, it's a combination of the above alongside counter play potential from other classes. Rogue is the ultimate class that can outcompete any other class right now.
chat gpt alert
paranoia alert, you see a bullet point list and you think it's AI 😂
😂🤣
Some people's brains are fried
90% of your text “Rogue class balance” shows signs of AI generation
dude your brain is so rotted if you think that's ai, he was typing for like 10 minutes before posting that
his messages are 2 min apart
the first message
Why do the drop rates for Legendary gear suck on high roller
- bro AI checker is availible to all, just copy paste
some guy literally did an ai thing earlier on why casters are broken
interact double stone door - Where is this? 
what this guy posted is not ai, or it is and he rewrote the whole thing which at that point why bother
😂 it's not the first time somebody said I sound like a robot, thanks?
👍
its in hell, the door before skull key door
I just did
rogue complainers hit your shots big bro
you have to be the first to open it
I thought I was
That’s what I’m saying
they just suck lol rogues get like 2 shot if ur not bad
as long as you're saying that while not running double jump im inclined to agree
hitting the 150+ hp rogue in the leg twice because of double jump is not going to kill them lol
aim for the head bro
for slayer fighter is action speed socket or physical power socket better
Same 3 people wiping squire lobbies in full epic 5th game in a row
This is kinda becoming a big problem
because hr is unplayable so ppl just bring gears in normals instead
no penalty for doing that because gear is cheap and dopamine is infinite in these squire lobbies
NOBODY WANTS ICE CAVES ON HR . GET RID OF IT
Hr is unplayable rn . rogues way to strong
All roads lead to rome…
does warsong work as solo bard
Yes, it applies to yourself and allies if you have them
holy fuck i just got a golden key for the first time and now i figure out you cant take them out of the matches anymore 
XD Rogue main xd ?
LOL, I parried a rogue with longsword twice and also chest shot him and he didn’t die. I also did not parry him, I parried an axe trap to attack him out of hide. Unfortunately, that sour spot of longsword did me in since I hit his head with the part closest to my hands
The chest shot just decided not to register, even though I heard the hit before he hit me.
Now they are afraid that there will be a nerf on the eogue A rogue who has 150 hp and can easily kill you by hitting three or four times when you hit him twice at the same time.
Don't worry they are easy to find now. Bosses have like 50/50 chance to drop and minibosses also drop quite often (not sure, maybe 5%?)
The fact that solo lobbies have 80% of players who play rogue speaks for itself.
Man this half baked faustian bargain and half baked water map.... What exactly have they been working on these years...
The water map I like
Faustian bargain is def a meme though
Get used to it. IM only addresses metas in about 1-2 months.
wdym, they don't balance around solo anymore, so as long as it doesnt affect trios, you'll have to live with it in solo.
I'm here for the vision
hello when u hit some one with morning star from close a sound of wood hiting the target anyone no if there decrese of the damage ?
Yes, if you hit them with the handle it does less dmg
They could have balanced for both modes by adding more perks to all classes and reworking perk compatibility/incompatibility to create clear solo and team/support class builds. This isn't a rogue specific complaint just something I would have liked to see in general
by how much persent?
70% damage I think, or 80%
You know barb is in a horrbile position when even skinny pete is switching to fighter and playing a diffrent game
less?whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
man f clirc then
I mean, all weapons have that going on except daggers and quarterstaff
Cleric is pretty strong as long as ur not on the water map
sowrd doent have it and rapiar
It does 80% of your dmg instead of 100%
They do. Closer to the middle of the blade and ur hand goes to 90% and 70-80% depending on the weapon
is the arena ssf?
Nope
No, u can buy off market
whats the kick command for users in party chat
Game is peak quit crying
Game is dead asf
Woodmans needs to be excuted for selling infinite throwing knifes
yea 12k people rn = dead
last season dnd peaked at 2k players in lobby and dungeon combined and there are screenshots of it somewhere so stop lying
photoshop
ong dude
If it’s dead why u in the disc weirdo
because hes either a noob who dies to pve, a liar or a ragebaiter
im not in a disc wdym
i sure hope warlock/fighter/rogue gets nerfed the next hotfix
last wipe i played the whole wipe and it was a consistent 5k so i call cap
how about you get good and stop complaining we don't want more back and forth updates its not good for the game you know how ridiculous it sounds to just go back and forth back and forth
im about to hear a huge load of copium rn and ik it
i'm plenty good when they don't go around giving 8+ buffs to classes that are already super good then taking away 1/2 a toolkit from others because others are bad and cried until my class got gutted so im returning the same 🙂
imo the devs should nerf all the classes except for the one that i play, its just not fair otherwise
i sure do hope next hotfix will bring more perks thatd bring more variety to the game
all perks should have negatives give back fighters their weapon mastery negative. Give back rogues double jump negative. and finally make it so warlocks can't heal from more than 1 mob at a time when mass dotting.
@next epochlitterally just a bunch of shitters
thats just killing caster warlock
you sound like sdfs down cousin
Hi
lowkey some major perks should have that kind of tradeoffs
sounds like poe2 dev mentality, the playerbase LOVES getting a downside everytime they pick an upgrade as they level up
warlocks have several different builds to play. TM warlock should be reworked considering what druid got nerfed for. "they can disengage and heal too fast" while warlock heals in ur face then has a get outta jail free button with cancelable phantomize. it'd be fine they never buffed phantomize to be cancelable but atlas they did.
lets go back on axe mastery then go back on it again lets buff fighter lets nerf fighter lets buff that nerf that buff that nerf that.... get good trashcans
all of the classes are strong rn your just bad
go cry about druid more craze on reddit.
yo but what about giving warlock a kris dagger then taking it back from him then giving him it again......
Kris dagger shoulda just stayed removed tbh. Warlocks have no reason to be melee competieve 🥴
i play druid i play cleric i play ranger i play warlock i play fighter and i play rogue and they all feel right where they need to be
bro you have less than 200 hours in the game pipe down newbie.
Stay chapped frwog is banned lil vro.
youve never built a single kit above 80k in your entire time playing this game pipe down shitter
hahahahaha stay mad ur little fav streamer is banned and hes banned for the season stay chapped
woah woah woah chill out pals
my favorite streamer?
What is the current reason to play HR with random maps when there is unlimited money in norms.
Did a side by side over like 6 games and most of the times norms was just as much money for less effort. Only reason for HR is if u feel like PvP in good gear but there's nobody there with good gear lol
NA?
Yep
It is up for me (EU). Maybe try restarting your PC?
is there a map rotation on hr now or is it fully random
What are ya'lls go to budget high roller solo classes
its fully random and you can get 6 times ice caves in a row so enjoy playing this awesome map
bro its so bad
yea no shit
if its gonna be 1 big queue at least make it a rotation
Does cockatrice's egg drop in non pvp mode?
yes and if its not dropping for you then keep trying to get it
Thank you
Hey so does rogue seem slightly over tuned to anyone else? Or am I just bad? I have a 50k fighter arena kit with 193 health and 62% pdr and still get 4 shot
16 tries i think. Just got it
Is cleric plate armor better, or light armor? Also what classes pair well with cleric
light
So I shouldn’t wear plate?
What's the least played class in solos?
except head and hands i wouldnt
I’m running the Houndkull, plate hands and champion armor rn
anyone know whare to get smelly vomit?
How much is the full game again?
continuous lobbies is a hella funny,
just died in water map
faustian bargain took revenge on the fighter
queued up and realised im in the same lobby lol. loot my own body + fighter body
Who thought this was a good idea
wait really? is the game population that low?
no its just continuous dungeons still existing, it has nothing to do with low player count
Is it worth getting back into
i got lucky cuz my faustian spawn was 1 jump away from my body, poor dude killed me at the coral reef pillars and i spawned on the pirate ship right beside it.
Faustian pirate swim speed basically put me beside my killer within 20 secs
if youre bored and wanna try a new map yes
No just the entire game in general
I haven’t played since they first made all game modes require trios
they dont require it anymore
i havent played in over a year and just checked this game out again. so many sick changes
Sounds nice whats the new good class rn
everything if you play it right, theres no good or bad class atm
everything is good, dont play druid tho
Does anyone know when the next wipe will be?
Why are static reds still in the game
need help. I used squire's gear set thing and it took all my things in my inventory and said something along the lines of "will return it when u need it" idk much about it where do i find my items now?
he won't save squire kits like that, you didn't lose anything, you can just get another squire kit
they dont have to remove it imo, but there should be a interaction to activate instead of a free get out of jail cheese everyone uses
its gone forever gl
no like. i had items in my inventory from a raid just now, along with a kit i looted in game
Yeah at least something like this would be good
hello friend, do you know when the next wipe will be by any chance?
and swapped gear sets n shi but like, my whole inventory is gone now
then those items are saved on one of the saved sets, when he says he's taking things like that, he's taking free squire kit items
go in squire there should be "my gear sets" somewhere i think you stored it there
we're two weeks into a wipe, they haven't announced the next wipe and won't for a while
Prob around December, late I suppose. We just had a wipe.
alright cool, thanks!

I see, thank you!
thanks man ik what u mean, but like i had some rings n stuff in my inventory apart from the ones i was wearing and heals that i looted/ bought. all gone
Is there a troll problem or are the current players pretty respectable
if you go to squire and click My Gear Sets and check all 3 sets and can't find them then idk, maybe went to stash?
yup all three empty, and stash doesnt have it either
rip
didn't know u can store gear sets in squire, good to know it can eat your gear I'll continue not using it
legit got outta raid with stash full of 2 whole rogue kits, one of them i just put on the other one just gone along with heals and potions
pickpocketer had the best raid of his life
lol
oh hell naw bruh i was on warlock and prolly two rogues just died to each other's poison, completely unlooted LOL
anyone know how many cockatrices spawn in ruins? 2? ty
3 maybe idk if theres more
not sure if it's fixed or random
It is random but I feel like there is at least one every map. 3 max I suppose.
one under bridge sometimes
best place to find mermaids? coule hours only found 2
You LOVE to see it!
like a gold scar in fortnite
This is far better. ROgues killing rogues is just .... PERFECT.
thus a rogue with two kits to spare is born
i havent run into bad attitude problems but people are definitely better at the game on avergae than they were a year ago
FIX ROGUE OR REMOVE IT FROM THE GAME
just hit it once in the head and it'll die, skill issue, na i mean it.
YES -1/10 rage bait @storm stratus
Never understood this. Would wear it but I'm sticking with the Topfhelm.
what map to play faustian bargain after GC is only spiders? got like 30 affinity
Did they nerf mystical gems
so people don't have to wait 30 minutes to play in hell
I just went and found a guy in a the troll loot room and he just gave me a mystical gem
skill dif
haha sure thing
I think revert double jump so that it has the -move speed and nerf throwing knifes and we will be fine
what are the quest item drops for lich again? besides dark matter
Like how ghhost king has broken crown
how do i become anything but a skeleton with the frustration bargin
do damage
in every match?
play water map, you can get crab that will allow you go get 1 point and then goblin opens up
Complete the Dealmaker's quests. Each quest completed will award you with Affinity. The higher affinity means better monsters available to you.
does the shared loot room between banshee and spectral have a loot pile? Someone told me it should, but I didn't see one
people use goblin caves for the frustaration bargain quest, because you can spawn as a goblin
thank you ❤️
Play as white shark on water map
anyone get the bug where your 1 & 2 keybinds don't work? I tried restarting but that didn't fix it
Why does it take 4+ minutes to queue HR?
Half all mob sounds, double footstep sound
My friend has fps spikes when hitting players sometimes, is there a specific solution to this
Anyone test if luck affects barnacle drops?
To fill the lobby.
what lobby? these empty ice caves countinuous dungeon abominations where are like 4 people at most? inb4: server eu frankfurt
how long do we have to wait for balance patch
I suggest goblin caves till you get subbosses of ruins unlocked. Though you can play as dogs in ruins. Dogs are pretty good
guys the lich kings "ball" which follows u, u cannot cheese those into the wall no more or what did I do wrong?
you can only destroy it on yourself or other player or a mob
Is there any map for the new dungeon in the internet?
aight and parry gotcha
yes exactly
Not yet, dark and darker tracker is working on one
Waiting on these much needed rogue buffs.
Whats the timer for on the religion tab?
Christ we've all stopped playing from my group. The unlimited stacking true magic knives christ you can't get away from it in solo
Does anyone know about the spawn locations of tidestone ore
Attention to all dungeoneers. There is an infestation in the dungeons, currently the class called "Rogue" and his so called ability "Double Jump" has taken over the dungeons. Be alert dungeoneers, the rat rogue meta is upon us!
rat rogue is hide rogue
dj rogue is called a mosquito
also just remove throwables like franciscas and throwing knifes
and people wont be crying about rogue and other classess that can use such items that much
i just came back to dark and darker, and i am curious how to deal with gold storage. a gold chest that stores 10000 gold costs 200k gold
Not the 165 hp void blade mana sphere all atts grimsmile warlock in the norms caves lol
do i just buy items with high value instead of storing pure gold i guess?
@leaden widget team killer rat
Lmao
it cost 40k bro lol thats not that much also u get one for free from quests
Then you will see only landmine rogues
what modules in inferno can you find abomination?
Just noticed, not only do I spawn in squire gear but also the zone is covering the boss arena, so HOW THE FUFF am I supposed to beat any boss in Squires to Riches before the match ends??? (when every boss has around 2.000 HP)
And faustian bargain still spawns you on the other side from the map from where the zone is, this should of course not be possible, the mobs are slow enough to make me die from boredom anyways
We need a discord bot that sends my rants straight to a dev work-email
Bro why are there so many barbarians using clubs right now
Most dps barb weapon,and has armor pen
im doing arbitrage and how tf are troll pelts as much as a coin bag on the market?
cause spectral coin bags
what about a fckin feature to withdraw only a portion of gold from a sold item???>..................
I feel if you have to use a club on barb he's just not good anymore
Can you get troll pelt from normals?
U can get it in normals, PVE mode, and HR
thanks
How's 40k not a lot too you
Why would using a club make barb not good?
''thats not much'' its more than the damn chest can store, whats the point.
How do you report in arena?
when im at a point where i can comfortably throw 40k on a chest shaped gold pouch im gonna need something that can store 1 million not 10k
I'm not saying it would make him not good I'm just saying he's all about big hard hitting weapons so if those are not meta
Lmao what’s not big and hard hitting abt a big wooden stick
True I just miss the meta of using big axes that did a lot of dmg
its easy asf to make gold just play high roller
Just gamble dealmaker amulets
is there a map of where the barnacle spots are
no
Just sit in the cave that lead to guy who transport items for you and kill all this druids on the way
guys i have seen lot of videos of people in ruins for examplek and it looks little less modeled and textures i am assuming thats for getting more fps and i am one of those people that have to run game in lower res to get same fps as hz for smoothness, so i was wondering how people do that so i can go back to native res
drop a balance patch pls
nerf warlocks kris dagger @glad thunder i think its time to remove it again
dealmaker 0 affinity is fking hell
Is there anyone that has is fairly knowleagble that I could DM and ask questions to?
you have to change values in engine.ini iirc, if you google Dark and Darker optimization guide there's a github that has more information and preconfigured engine.ini files
bruh why does penguin take more than 1 hit to kill
bc it isn't the size of a rat
its smaller than my club, every bone in its body is shattered when i hit hit and i need to do it 3 times
aim for the head.
Guys if I play on steam and I migrated my account to steam from original launcher wouldn’t my purchases transfer over as well or?
like redstone shards?
To be honest I don’t remember exactly but I’ve played since launch and recently returned.
I believe I had purchased something to expand storage but I noticed it’s per season now or something.
yeah its a seasonal pass now
the DLC to expand storage has only existed very recently, at launch I don't think there was anything that allowed you to do that
ty <3
ask here
guys i have to do dreadspine for tavernmaster quest can anyone tell me what rooms i can even find this guy at i cant find online or on interactive map someone please bless me with knowledge or i will go insane
Throne Room and basement of Blood Prison, probably other spawns but those are the 2 I use
inferno map, in a room there is a dreadspine, orc and a health fountain
I try to and my questions get ignored
tysm
when a new season sets does my inventory and stash get nuked?
yes wipe means you lose everything but fame and cosmetics
i think u should go to ur main classes discord channel lot of people that know much more than me really love to help out
and level tokens stay (I think)
what is a skeleton key and where do I use it?
if you're talking about skull key it's used in Demon Gate module
I had the spectral knight drop it after I killed him
if I go deeper into the crypt does it go away?
no it will stay with you until you extract
feels like sorcerers are not even playing the same game feels like theyre playing lucio from overwatch
I typically play rags to squire or PVE. is Luck a stat that is worth using?
last time i played there wasn't an arena mode, you don't lose gear from dying in arena right?
luck doesn't really work afaik, I've tried it many times and it never really feels like it does anything for loot, maybe very slightly if anything
Does human remains not spawn in adventurer mode ?
no you do not lose gear
are there any monster parts that are incredibly valuable that I shouldn't just auto sell?
theyre not all incredibly valuable but off the top of my head wolf pelts, rotten fluids kinda sell for poison vials, bat wings, bowstring, old cloth, token of honor
components for the gold bag
Spider silk
yes, spectral bag items too
are the drops drastically better on high roller?
plenty, frozen heart, spider silk, centaur tail and horn, I'm probably forgetting plenty but if it's something you don't find very commonly just check on market before selling
treasyre drops definitley a lot easier to find blue and up in hr. piles are way better and gear is usually blue and up for me but occasional green. golden chests are way better in hr
BUuuut you have to be decent at PVP to even survive or so I assume
golden teeth add up pretty quickly too
the game is getting so fking unfun ,hr is such a piece off trash disgusting ,gear is trash in normals and the few i played in hr is trash too
Is arena SSF only or can i bring auction items as well ?
you can bring in anything and you won't lose it
i only hate hr bc its random maps. other wise i’d probably be spending an irresponsible amount of time playing
wish squire to riches wasn't trio only
Do quests reset every season?
trash bro its so unfun, like them ,they ruin everything , the old 24 gear score they remove to add squire to riches and think wow nice mode
yep, afaik quests for cosmetics don't return though, new cosmetic quests take their place normally
yes but you do them next season too
Is the game FUN with high end gear? I'm noticing the difference is marginal from a legendary to say Epic
you dont see it like that tyr , they kill the fun on the game , i still dont know why the hs damage is doing here this is not a shooter
Hey is it the general consensus that Maelstomr water map should NOT have the stormy water affect until maybe 4-5 minutes left in the game? its just insane that it happens so early and miserable to play in
lspt88 I can tell you don't like the game I want to talk to someone that enjoys the game. I'm not seeing a whole lot of endgame content. I haven;t done everyboss obviously, but i just want to know DOES it feel FUN to have decent gear or is it kinda the same?
Thematiclaly; Leaving a place where you're nearly drowning by going into a hole that goes deeper underwater seems a lil stupid
love it when someone shit talks about the weapon your using, tks you and complains that you havent spent 400k on a full bis kit yet while still saying they are gonna report you. average arena players ...
@turbid hazel see your talking alone nice,if i didn´t love the game i would shut up,the changes in eventually make the players leave
your just saying people dont like the game,and your new ,whats to like in bad changes
does anyone know if the migration from epic to blacksmith is still available?
I just started playing. I am trying to determine IF wearing high end gear feels any different then wearing blue or purple gear. You saying the game is unfun or is trash is not answering my question. I understand the game has issues. I just want to know if high end gear if FUN or if it just isn't worth it.
is fun if you dont lose it
It is fun if all stat rolls are ones you want. A trash rolled legendary item is worse than a good rolled epic. You can get to be really op of you wear all legendaries/uniques when they are on roll
the most important things about gear are the attributes
ur a legend genius
yeah I still haven't figured out WHAT attributes are good for what class. I've been playing fighter primarily longsword and heavy armor. but I suck at PVP so I stick with rags to riches or just PVE
I’ve been learning the cleric but I mained a rogue or barb before
ok, quick question, where do u farm gold ore?
dexterity in general is a good attribute to have in melee type classes. Makes you swing faster
Goblin caves, once both bosses die then the door inside the boss loot rooms open up where the gold ore is
Is the rule of not being able to play the same class as your teammate in hr gone? we just met tripple wiz
Is the ancient sting ray egg a super rare drop i thought i would have seen them on the marketplace by now
i think its 1%
Still none on the marketplace is wild
its not. its a quest item, its rare and its on a boss that is extremely hard
I might f around and learn ancient stingray
Yea thats why i figured there would be someone farming them and selling them
Which class is best for learning stingray?
Can you buy a cockatree lucky feather for the quest to hand it in? cuz I noticed it doesn't say loot status: looted on the quest like other items do.
The feather and the egg I think yeah
Depends on the quest one of the quests asks for a looted one
Seems like I can, thanku
Or the feather needs to be looted but the trinkets don't
people are. just in the trade chat
the feather is the only quest item I've noticed that didn't have a "loot status: looted" prefix like the other stuff do hmmm it does cost 2k prob works
ok i bought green shackles to see if it works since i found another item without that requesite, works, vnice
Bro my internet is good, but I lag so hard specifically in dark and darker! Solos used to not lag bad and it was usually trios that lagged me, but now I just lag no matter what. I've tried so many things, does anyone else have this issue?
Are you on the appropriate server for ur region
yes lol
shrug, gl ;p
Thanks
does anybody else find the current arena map roto to be absolute god awful or is just me
add paladin
New arena maps please wtf
no add paladin
so they just never gonna get rid of double classes on arena fill?
no, they don't want to make arena premade exclusively, randoms still are allowed
Bro my internet is good, but I lag so hard specifically in dark and darker! Solos used to not lag bad and it was usually trios that lagged me, but now I just lag no matter what. I've tried so many things, does anyone else have this issue?
Is arena just item you have found or is it all marketplace stuff again?
any ideas for a tank healer cleric in arena? what pieces and stats should i go for?
druidTRY CLERIC = PALADIN
how can i report someone for slurs in dnd?
items do not have to be minted, anything you bring into arena won't be lost
Is their a gear limit to arena
up to legendary
If it's a chat message you can right click it to report, but they don't really look at the reports I don't think. If it was over VoIP you'd need a recording to send to them, which they REALLY don't look at.
is there any reward for ranking in arena like there is in high-roller?
WWnope
Getting Error 21 on attempted launch. I have completely uninstalled and reinstalled and deleted all files for both blacksmith and D&D. Help.
was wondering this aswell
no add paladin
gimme craftable windlass first
no
can anyone help me quest? its a real pain solo questing
yes. i need a cooler crossbow for my double crossbow build
add paladin and crossbow craft
acceptable
What would a paladin be thats diffrent then a Cleric? Like lorewise they are diffrent but in this game they are the same clerics use holy power and are spell caster. Paladins are holy tanky frontliners. The onlything they dont do is swear an oath. But ti guess you choose a religon anyway so.... Rather see clean up on current classes then class thats already covered
they managed to make sorc play completely different from wizard even tho they are both just a basic spellcaster. ironmace will manage
what can i use in arena
almost everything
Not really. Sorc are adept through magic but do not take time to learn it inner working. They are naturally talented. But a wizard is a scholar of magic who may not be as fast as a sorc but spells are more situation and precise. Wizards in this game match the lore and have hard hitting spells and can suppor meanwhile needing to recharge and sorcs can fling magic and combine spells but really only cary spell at least that i have seen is elemental blast. but their natural talent allows them to seemingly merge spells. 2 diffrent playstyles. 2 diffrent backgrounds. Thats like saying a rogue and a slayer are the same thing. they fill a similar spot but are diffrent
yeah. wizard is just a smart sorc. basically the same thing
Not really but whatever floats your boat boss. Like saying druid and cleric are the same cause the both use heal magic lol
nah. druid is tree caster cleric is holy bonk caster
how do arenas now work, i mean loot does it need to be looted by character that i'm playing not to disappear or just looted?
rogue dominates the main game, but almost every time i get a rogue on my team in arena, they underperform
because they can't afford to use 20 throwing knives every single round in arena
Druid spells are essenstially 1 for 1 with clerics on alot of skills. Holy Strike - Dream fire, Sanc - Mending Grove, Nature Touch - Lesser Heal, Holy Shock - Restore, Root -Bind, like they are very very similar
so you dont have to have mint in arena anymore? market items wont be lost
remove throwable knifes and axes from the game
it does feel good killing a fully geared person in normal dungeon as a mob
Rogue is the most fucked up class in the entire game, change my mind
simple idea - allow clarity potion to be selectable as a default potion like the protection potion... why do you automatically get phys damage protection and not magic...
you're making too much sense
I think they could easily balance rogue by making them suffer a significant damage reduction for a few seconds after coming out of Hide, it would disincentivize landmining
or just remove fucking throwing daggers and axes
what is the timer next to the religions? is that time left for the rewards?
play felling axe full movespeed barbarian and the game is the easiest thing ever bro, rouges are easy kills if you just pay attention to sound
why do I get the penalty for team kill for defending myself?
because every class can do physical damage.... its simple game design honestly.....
when are they nerfing rogue I die and spectate to see 7 rogues in my lobby
Skill issue
Sorry since I know this has been asked a million times, but is arena this season any gear up to legendary. Like is it only gear you find or stuff you buy also
what even is rogue counter rn
Being good at the game
does anyone know how to fix the dungeon crash loop? Can't load into the game all of a sudden
ragebait weak asf, go practice in youtube comments
nothing
a windlass bolt to the skull
Is anyone else tired of ultrageared rogues in goblin caves
No bait, easiest melee class to kill
I play solo HR and its literally full legendary rogues and then one warlock ap farming
play crossbow ranger then. hit the rogues with a windlass bolt
Barb and fighter destroys rouge unless he throwing knife spams
drip > stats
lemme know when u kill a rogue on barb or fighter
Its not that hard lmao
rogue is only good at killing magic users
They all do tho
brain
what do u play
everything except druid
based
its bad design.... you are giving defense against physical damage and not magical.. again. you dont have to choose the magic prot pot or the clarity... but the option makes sense
no it doesnt. plain and simple the squire isnt meant to give you want you want or what you need only the bare minimum so if you want that stuff you have to buy it or make it
the squire gives access to EVERY armor item and weapon item int he game... so your logic is extremely flawed haha... the only thing he doesnt give is magic prot pots and clarity.... but phys prots are craftable so your logic is even more flawed... so are healing pots and bandages... so any way you try to justify, it would be trolling
does anyone know what drops bone powder and flame gas bag
how do i block teamates in arena
gas bag is from HR cockatrices
should be able to block them in game, if you mean mid match theres not a way
yea where
so farming them will be frocking awful? lfg 🔥
player list-> players->type name-> right click-> block
If i block someone do I see them in match?
I havent seen someone after blocking but Im not sure if thats by chance or if theyre not queuing with me anymore
Seems "abusable" if they just don't match you with them anymore after blocking especially when playerbase drops.
bro ive gotten in the game with the same arena teamates 6 times in a row and i block them and they are sitll in my game
Ragebait?
where cuttlefish
nope how is that ragebait?
full pdr fighter getting 1v1'd face to face by me as a rogue is crazy
Explain me how do you survive as ranged a jumpscare cutthroat rogue
yep I felt that myself today, full plate got decimated by a rogue not even kiting
guys is arena always capped to legendary gear ?
there was one iteration of artifacts in arenas, wish I had played that wipe. the one before was just capped to blues
I hope they nerf rogue soon
why is there fucking ai in the arena that shit is so buns
this stupid ass game always doing a little something extra to screw up everything that they make that actually has a chance of being good. like they can never actually make something good without a little extra bullshit thrown in
its like those tik tok videos where you write what super power you want and the top comment chooses a downside like, "but you have to talk through your own b-hole", only SDF is the top comment fucking up his own game
man
anyone know why i cant use text chat
it says cannot send message party chat is currently disabled
How are u supposed to pvp with rogue he is squish ball I insta die
its so obnoxious how ice caves is like the only map you get this season in HR
Because youve been saying bad things
i can use voice chat tho
Weak point shouldn't be an ability In my opinion, rogue has Two dots and with weak point they can literally 3 shot someone with 60% PDR
anything cool from the navigator questline?
Because you typing bad things.admit it
i honestly dont think ive typed anything bad
I mean you're wrong, it doesn't "give access to every weapon or armor item in the game", It's actually so crazy how confident you are, and you are so wrong.
explain me about this fk map rotation in HR is there any way to manipulate cuz its just annoying
I will continue to complain until its fixed, why is the ROGUE the strongest melee class? actually broken.
Does anyone know people in London that sells guns
Did you break your Google again???
oh my bad rangers too all ranged dudes thats what you wanna hear?
i know a guy that makes them
what are the best rooms to get the weaponsmith gold chests on ruins
Followed by druids, who cant commit as panther due to doublejump, bear is a huge dummie for knifes and you cant even escape as rat because poison dots, how you win this? Spear?
Hi. I just wanted to say the quest creator in IM is the most incompetent quest maker I see since long time
what is going on with the level of teaming in norms lately. I'm queing into solo just for groups of 3 and 4 to run up on me.
🇨🇳
I think if you could stun a rogue he just dies not sure why you talk about rangers when i was talking about magic users
When do the new artifacts come to the game
Also. Can we go back to gear score to enter norms. I'm sick of fully kitted people running all purple and slotted items.
yo how do i open cave tombs gate from inside?
so fucking stupid u cant open from inside dumb fucking game
Is arena ssf only?
why is HR dead
Where is "The Treasure Room" location?
Does goblin bring your gear back or are you cooked if u die to pve
is cockatrice marchant bugged ? i didnt get any gems yet (i'm a last tier of quest) and my friend get them daily, am i missing something ?
is fighter op now?
how much affinity to craft glee or void blade
oh no i just realised a dissaster had happend... somehow whispers had been put back to friends only, no wonder im not getting angry messages anymore
does anyone hypothetically know how to do the ini files to get rid of bushes?
You don't need to
i need that fps boost lowkey
Get a better rig
you paying?
Not for yours
only allow 1 of a class in arena. its so fucking obvious and everyone wants it. its so fucking obvious and would make game better. do it finally
per team that is. obviously
its hard for them to do that. queue times will be extremely long at the higher end of ranks
high end of arena should be 3 man stacks. for randoms it should be 1 class for team
again. its basically impossible for them to do that because of what people are playing at the high end ...
no its very easy. if you want to say its imbalanced or a bad idea that makes sense. the high end of arena is 3 man stacks. for randoms it should be 1 class per team
yes and if they do that it will almost instantly cut off most randoms from playing. again like ive been saying. queue times will be way too long. if people played all classes equally then it would work perfectly fine. but people dont :)
i play fighter and willing to wait longer. it will result in better distrubition of classes i think
just cause your willing to wait 10 mins to find a game doesnt mean that the entire community is :)
its annoying both ways. when you have shit comp on your team with multiple classes. or a counter comp on other team with multiple classes
Is there more than 1 spot for the "old nautical chart fragment" ? We need 4, they dont spawn every time, and we are like 10k player who need them ... is it me or that quest (and so much others quest) are that lvl of stupidity ?
if you dont want a shit comp. then go find teammates :)
is arena ssf or all gear?
i just want to practice and learn but you cant do that every other game is busted double class comps either on your team or the other
triple fighter and roque bullshit happening vs a team of 3 different classes. its not good. i see your point but this should be obvious what im saying
at the high end if you are 3 que together as same class it can be allowed. if not, then force different classes. longer waiting times are better for game instead of forced loss. i see the frustration from a lot of people
What's the best class right now? I am starting back up and have no gear so if fighter is somewhat viable might just go for that to get gear quick.
fighter is good. best class depends on team size, map, mode, etc
Probably duo and trio is what I will play the most. And are there new modes? Last I played it was just the dungeons and then Arena. As for the map I don't think I play much other than in hell or the goblin caves. I just don't want to have to deal with sorcerers and warlocks spamming me if fighter is shit and casters are insane again.
Rogue
rogue sucks whens the buff?
anyone around feeling kind and willing to carry me through warlord on pve for quest?
Whenever SDF decides he wants to play rogue again
question: how do they knock off people from the raising exfil in gob caves? Two toxic players on PVE swooped in after I killed the troll, took a ton of loot, and were shutting doors in front of me as a I tried to leave. Then knocked me off the exfil and I died and lost all my loot, along with 3 others
When the frock did they add pve...
ngl they need to fix pve why can a dilpecker with niplan knock me off pile?
any spell/skill that does knockback
I'm only getting mummy spiders as my faustian bargain with like 20 dealmaker rep what is this bs edit: it also just used a charge and said failed to execute faustian bargain so it just shafted the whole round/time
what is most fun class and why
There's none... you're gonna be stuck playing frost mountain for a thousand game in a row with their shit system anyway
i never get frost mountain
least played class in solos?
ARENA IS FULL OF ASIAN RMT NERDS IN OCE, GAMES COOKED, DEVS WANT YOU TO RMT IT SEEMS
What is rmt
real world currency in exchange for digital loot
Bro my internet is good, but I lag so hard specifically in dark and darker! Solos used to not lag bad and it was usually trios that lagged me, but now I just lag no matter what. I've tried so many things, does anyone else have this issue?
ok so i just came back to the game after 9 months and I jsut got a frozen iron key from a yeti in normals. Is this really rare or is it jsut really common now?
common
im trying to kill the troll for my first time then a player spider just stops me😔

Which crocodile skin is best, the dex one?
the will one
faustian just shouldnt be a thing
for barb/fighter? why
buff duration and magic power 
Boy I sure do love getting Ice Map in HR over and over and over and over and over
Is the goblin merchant dungeon recoveries active? I haven't got anything back for the entire wipe?
Only for PVE
Do either class use magic power
yes
Casual bait
the feature to be mobs is the lames shit ive seen 3 goblins all jumping around fucked me up lol
is it possible to have a troll pelt in adventure mode?
HELLO ROUGE NERF WHEN IRONMACE????????? FULL PDR 160 HP 10% PHYSICAL DAMAGE?? HOW AIM I LOOSE?? WHY DO WE EVEN BUFF ROUGE????????HUH?
10 ppl play the game there are 9 of them already rouge?????
oiw much is cyclops rags?
300
Can we agree that rouge need a nerf?
They put PDR just for rouge have fun ngl
as someone new, why does rogue need a nerf?
yeah but in adventure they can't kill u
yup. learned how to do troll and felt accomplished untill i realised killing the troll isnt the hard aprt
so is it a drop in adventure or is it too rare
Before the buff noone ask about it after this buff everyone pick or whole lobby gonna be rat rouge
i did the troll like 5 time in adventure but never got pelt
whats the quest line that gives a chest?
Glad the jellyfish is actually a haha funny get one shot enemy and not a real thing, nice design. Just one more thing to avoid in the map the devs spent an entire year on
anyone know if transferring account to steam is worth it for performance?
Just to make it clear either you build health or pdr you still gonna loose to a duel with rouge and talk about rouge ain't they are the ppl that (base in the lore) only pick think up and assassin not being a frickin fly that kept kite with 20 throwing knife
oh xd. i dont even use double jump.
Throwing axe damage worst than a throwing knife what a fkin joke don't they?
Being throw with an axe and a knife I think axe way more damage prefer to some kitty knife
I mean in literally RL
how grief is rapier on rogue? i know dagger is meta but i feel like the more consistent hits and reach of rapier is so nice
How do you beat longsword with arming sword
Arming have the swinging pattern then go up and down and long sword like a floor u gonna kept slam on it
Not to be rude but that makes literally no sense
DO i have to delete character to get different character if i am on free version
is gambling with goblin merchant worth it caht
Yes
does sorcerer not have cooldown? just had one spam like 5 icebolts back to back on me
Let that SINK in
Just speak english
I was asking for advice not a cypher sorry
Bro you either bait them to ark or just fake atk till them blocking other way
You just need to slow thing down you gonna find them so vulnerable if they are skilled longsword player yah cooked
How did the devs spend an entire year on the worst map i've ever played. It's so bad in every single way. I can't cope with it
Ice cave?
devs forgot that the game is a dungeoncrawler and make an open map
its not bad in every single way. it looks cool, its unique, the extract boats are cool, the rowboats are cool.
The coolest parts are non gameplay and cosmetic. Yeah, I agree. The way it plays, the enemies, the water, the meta, are all awful. I just had a player controlled shark chase me the entire raid until i ran into a harpy on my boat. There was nothing I could do other than eat shit. Every other raid it's just complete nonsense in some way
Bro really think everything have to go "that way"
Worst map been voted and it ice cave there is notting to talk about it
Yeah ice cave sucks too.
I still find myself losing in as straight up statcheck against longsword even when they dont get parries off
is arena based on what you find or what u buy???
i like that they made a bright map that feels different, but it plays very weird.
yo is arena minted gear only or na
The combat was designed for the dungeoncrawler type of map, i think having an underwater and open area map goes against the whole design
doesnt really bother me personally i just play crypts, my only issue is highroller not letting me choose my maps
arena not max in rare item now?
No
no and its filled with sorc, ranger, wiz and rogue
add griefing report button im sick of this
Will you lose gear in Arena if the gear was bought in the auction house?
I believe so
is there a place to research more about mining ?
NO
thats why everyone is rmt so they can buy the best of the best +3 +3 bs stat gear
There's a outdated wiki https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Ore for ores and ingots
i have never played druid but cant u just go rat form and just landmine people either by hiding somewhere or sneaking up on someone.
thanks
As a rat, you do make some sounds
arena max item rarity can bring is legendary?
Coprrect
Iron Mace is really cheap this season whats up with everyone on one map in norms?
can't bring unique?
Yes
okay Thx
When is the new wipe ? so when is religion being reset ?
shouldn't be for a while, they've got a lot to fix/well correctly implement with the new map
Why is high roller queue so much longer this wipe? Does it try to give you a full lobby?
Yes
anyone know where drain is in inferno i think for a quest?
faustain bargain is unplayable once you unlock spider
Is anyone else getting unplayable lag? Rubber banding on every object I get close to
Does anybody know if this game is cpu or gpu intensive
the extra time is to give you the perfect match of rogues and ap farmers
Is there some inretactive map of the water map? Im going insane trying to find more than one giant clam spawn
seems to be pretty gpu intensive, even if it makes no sense as its very graphically unimpressive.
get a better computer
Yea seems that way i think its just badly optimised
yeah xd. 4070TiS 7800x3d 1440p and i run like sub200fps on everything low
Tbh for me the difference between low and ultra is not that noticeable, but i fet your point you should get a lot more fps
how many weeks will it take for them to nerf rogue
they need 4 full days of arena data to know if rogue is OP or not
i wonder why every game has min 2 rogues
i think rogue needs damage but the entire killfeed now is rogues, blasting through anyone's hp instantly for free. what was the buff that gave them just unlimited dmg now?
they're also going to decide that rogue isn't OP because rogues don't spam throwing knives in arena
they are prob gunna double down next update. giving them another buff
people wonder why arena is dead
Disappointing arena maps // rouge is very OP // loot + mobs still in arena … bad times
imo rogue's not even that strong in arena because they're not throwing a full inventory of throwing knives at you to get your gear
Oh and whatever they did that added the delay on bows
i did not received my items after wipe, how can i proceed, any one can help ?
It’s not just the knives it’s the whole kit. And you may not have seen the knife spam done to unbeatable effect which it can be
What items specifically
i cannot possibly imagine how rogue is in a closed setting like arena.
Double jump + knive spam with enough speed and you are unkillable
high roller rewards
The silence jump from invis is disgusting also, 3-4 hits everyone
Go to your character you climb the rank with, go to leaderboard, switch to previous season, claim
they need to not make sure large sweeping changes every time they make changes.
Rouge was already kinda OP but more ppl playing it now
is faustian bargain allowed in PvE mode?
X2 rouges on ur team in arena and x2 on the other team… if ur not a rouge you basically have a giant sign on ur head saying “come and get me”
thats what i said, rogue did not need a big buff... already was annoyingly good in its own right
Yep it’s a bit mad in arena atm tho
oh yeah,
thanks man, u're awesome
thanks a lot s2
I stopped getting better at this game like a thousand hours ago and i'm still ass man, how do you improve at games there's no guides or anything
Headshot
Change class
I frequently get frustrated because I don't have the aim to compete in that way. I'd genuinely need to do aimtraining
Try healer cleric ?
Tbh i can't even track rogues strafing me in melee i die to that shit all the time. I have good apm and movement i just lose 90% of fights in some way
Use club most ez headshots ever
watch streamers and rewatch ur own gameplay
Is there like a guide for comparing replays, i feel like i'd need coaching to even know what to look for or how to learn from that kind of thing
The advice would be to probably learn the strength and weaknesses of each classes and mob, how their attack pattern works, how to dodge, how to react into situations, that's the first thing
Clip fights u lose / win then look at them and think what made me win this fight e.g positioning or movement and do the same for fights u lose thinking why did u lose then if u keep dying to the same shits then work on the stuff u always die to
I have like momentum that builds up and I’ll have periods where I hit all shots, play smart, land headshots …. (Ranger btw) then lol … I have instances where I miss miss miss miss die
There are several factors that will effect how ur doing also that can’t be ignored. Even things like who’s on ur team
Thanks guys i do need to watch replays tbh, i play bard and mechanically i think i'm good, other than aim. I must walk in the wrong places constantly or something
Don’t fight unless u shriek ppls
just compare what ur doing to what streamers are doing
hello guys do you know if you can chose region for the servers or is that out again? and if it's so how do i change that?
Go into arena solo que and some games ur team is smart, helpful and wants to win… sometimes you have a lil shit bag who just wants to troll ya/ block ya/kill ya
Are there streamers that play arena a lot? I never find what i'm looking for in that regard
Main Lobby, on the right, there's a giant text that says Select Region
Do u even get anything out of arena ive lowk never done it before bc u keep ur loot domt u
dude im so blind hahaha thx
Just go on twitch and go on the DaD bit and just look at the ones with the most viewers they prob good
Legit had someone earlier and this is no lie, dude was on my team we are on an ice map with pillars I’m being chased over pillars with 2 dudes behind me I’m jumping and it’s void below …. Dude on my team watches the whole thing then when I get on the final pillar …. He steps foward to block me and I fall to my death then he drops a “ xd” in chat
liek half of my kills have been falling trhough the map and dissapearing, is that a common issue
That’s my team mate ^^^ in solo que arena that’s one game… this happened several different ways with different people that seem to just enjoy watching you die
And I’m just talking about my team here lol
Get friends and q with them!
I probably should do solo que is hell
i keep dying as rogue
that happens
Why can’t I find rouges like you in arena bro
Keep finding immortal sweat lords :p
i have never not died once. i almost made it one time but then died to a spider as i was trying to portal out and then my teammates laughed at me
zwei buff when....
rogue is the best rn how
rogues are ez kills
should i switch to ranger or cleric!?!?!?!?!?! or magician?!
rogues
swap to whatever you want to. all classes are good. you just have to learn them
slow mode is ruining this server
you should follow your heart
How far are you into arena lol. They get very sweaty as you go up
my heart says ...i want to be healer but also shoot arrows
yes ik people get sweaty as you go up. im one of those sweaty people :) with the rogues i normally deal with them by shoving a windlass bolt through their head. it works amazingly
Ahh nice what’s ur arena rating atm
no idea. redoing my ranger cause i had like 5 games of trollers. fighter was like 2. something last season
2000+ they get real bro you will see
just making a bit more money before i actually continue it tho. am broke :(
my character is lvl 6. i have to delete :l is waste?
ive killed rogue sweats as a wizard. they aint hard to kill
is bard easy
Then you are not fighting the sweaty ones described, I think sorc is worse than wiz
this game will always suck bro, i wish they sold the game so the people they stole it from got it back
so them wiping the rest of the sweat squad i was in means they werent sweaty?
is @glad thunder still killing his game and community?
We are talking higher arena rouges only :p I’m sure you have taken many a sweat skull *I have no doubt
ok well youve lost it
guys is sorcerer beginenr friendly
If ur saying ur just crossbow rouges and they die easy then your not high enough in arena “ this season “ to see what the deal is bro
ofc, he doesnt know how to run a game besides randomly making a class strong then switching it
Lmk when you work up
guys idk if i should play sorcerer or not
im saying just crossbow them because im doing ranger crossbow only. and its working perfectly fucking fine. when the rogue has a one shot bolt flying at them at mach fuck. its hard to dodge it
It’s more like the rouge you don’t see that kills you before you can react / you can’t escape too and that you can’t land a headshot on because of the kit, there are plenty of them out there atm you will 100% run into this kind of rouge in higher arena
if you havent realised by now. ranger has a perk called "chase" that literally shows footsteps
It feels wrong on many levels. Happening to all classes atm it’s totally out of whack
You have played the arena maps this season lol ? They are not very Ranger friendly and extremely rouge friendly
i see steps but no person. im not just gonna keep on doing what i was doing. im gonna back off in the other direction cause i dont want to get jumped. its common sense
I wish you luck but as you have crossbow you don’t have shotgun also ? That’s one of the best things to zap them down with
What about when there is 2 and they have just killed ur team mates :p
Gonna sum up with there’s a reason ppl are complaining about rouge atm
then ill swap to my normal crossbow and use my 90% action speed reload to spam the living shit out of them ... dude just stop at this point. no matter what you say. its not gonna make me say that your busted rogue fantasy is real. rogues aint broken. yes, they are annoying, they are designed that way. they aint broken tho. very easy to counter by using your ears
Wait and see bro lol
They are broken atm
wait for the nerf next patch 🙏
ah yes. tell the crossbow ranger that has one shot multiple rogues in hr, norms and arena to "wait and see" i have dealt with a ton of rogues this wipe. and the only time ive died to them is when im either not paying attention. or i fuck up. not cause they are broken cause they aint a shit rogue wont shit on a team just cause hes playing rogue. exact same thing with old druid, it wasnt extremely broken, yes its good. but only when used by someone who actually understands how to play the class. which clearly you dont understand many
Don’t get me wrong I wish this wasn’t the case, but it is
this is one very big way to say " i dont know how to deal with rogues". if you need help you could always just ask :)
You know Ranger is weak to rouge tho right
just like how rogue is meant to be the counter to casters but yet i still kill rogues. skill. means. more. its not rock paper scissors :)
I have no problem admitting rouges are a problem for me but It’s not just me it’s most ppl… who have played arena
is anybody else getting frame drops when fighting Bladehand
I’ve talked to people the last few days in arena also… it’s a fairly shared opinion on “the state of rouge” atm
its not "most people" the game peaked at like 13k people on steam. i have not seen "most" of them complaining about rogue. i have seen a couple every now and then. if it really was a problem. 1. the devs wouldnve have done the buffs. 2. you would see way more complaining :)
You could probably find multiple references to that in the chats is you search also. And yes it is lol
i mean ive seen like every big streamer complaining about rogue
why tf are people saying rogue is just a "problem for some ppl" mf this class throws 2 knifes and takes half hp of a fully epic-legendary geared fighter, it's busted not a question
when you can find atleast 10k different people complaining about rogue then ill agree. till then. skill means more :) so just get gud
I’m not gonna just say ok bro you will kill every rouge you kill with ur crossbow cus it’s stupid and wrong, your gonna get chewed up and spit out my guy
i would never trust a streamers point in game. like look at the lorr. hes good. but he has no idea how to build stuff. streamers are good cause they play alot. doesnt mean they understand how to balance the game
But it’s obvious you have not played arena let alone gotten high in it yet this season mr I kill everyone lol
Literally every streamer is complaining, every content creator, and the devs are smoking crack with every patch so what the fuck are u defending here
why do you think you know how to ?
i would say im decent at knowing how a game could be balanced. 1. i play this game a shit ton. 2. im literally a game dev
Gods gift to ranger right here apparently
i thought that playing enough wasnt a good decider lol
sdf's alt detected, opinion rejected
Lol :p
sadly selective reading isnt a problem i can help with. i can only really help with stuff in game :) im a knight. not a doctor
Now we are done 🙂 gg go play some arena and come back
im just saying, ive seen plenty of people complaining about rogue and i think its a little disingenious to say they atleast arent a little bit strong
i have also seen alot of people complaining. but i see alot of people complaining about every class. every day.
also every class is strong when used by someone who understands how to play that class
i mean yea of course i aint talking about people in this server, theyll literally never be happy
i mean bigger members of the community and such
if the "bigger members" include anyone that does "build guides" then the point is just lost.
I’m happy :p
But not with rouge
also i totally agree with this point, its more about how much effort you put in to get value
barb may be easy, but also pretty weak right now
MY point is, rogue is incredibly easy to play right now, and at least a top 3 class
also i dont just mean that :D
That’s a good way to describe it, kinda like how op barb was it was easy to play a few wipes back
barb is not weak. barb is good when played properly. again. ive always been on the side where there is no class "tierlist" its always just play whatever you play best. just cause people are encountering some of the better rogue players. doesnt make the class broken. if it really was broken you would see alot more warlord rogues then other classes
He means the state of barb now compared to a few wipes ago, the diff is large… it’s weak now compared to what it was
can sorcerer heal self
It’s no longer considered OP… now rouge is , this is the world we are living in
no unless its with potions and util stuffs
i dont think that last bit is exactly true, especially since rogues power drops the more players are on a team (solos > duos > trios)
wat is the point of the sorcerer sword if i cant use it
if your talking about solos balancing then again. the point is lost. the game is balanced primarily around trios. solos will never be balanced. tho its still mostly based on whoever plays better
can someone answer my sword question. how do i use it
Pointy end towards enemy
location of normal jellyfish ( not giants ones)?
what is the point of sword if i can cast wiht hands
the point isnt "lost" lmao
this game is mostly balanced around trios, thats a fact, but claiming rogue isnt strong like at all implies all gamemodes lmao
Its a large piece of sharp metal that you can hit ppl with that’s longer than ur arms
Spells have Cool-down
when i click it shoots spell how do i hit with it
i never said rogue isnt strong. i said every class is strong when used properly ... atleast attempt to follow along?
Magic sword that can also cast magic
how do i swing my sword
but my point is rogue is too strong for how easy it is, id even say over powered
You did some something like ur just crossbow down every rouge that try’s to get ya and that you don’t know why ppl are complaining and that they* are easy etc
With ur arms
i cant!!!!!!!!!!!!
I play on controller I probably cannot help you bro
you are noob
Sometimes but I’m getting better
my name is MiaKhalyfa add me
what sword are you using ?
Crystal sword cant be swung unless you have no spell equipped
oh wow, @final finch is on his way to becoming mod. GG server omegalul
@silent geyser @runic forum crystal sword. t hanks i figured it out
going to destroy it one user at a time just like the tarkov official server
Long sword or falchion is what you want to use as a melee if you run all spell slots and no empty slots
i am doing squire to riches so i dont think that is option
guys sorcerer is so cool. so many combos lol
is there only 1 jellyfish (small) location near prsion and that is it on new map? any1 know another location please?
Seriously asking, how do you counter a warlock? mfer is spamming curse 45 times in 3 seconds i cant get close
if i buy those items and equip does that mean i need enough money to buy everyrtime i do a run
range curse has limited range play lock your self and que up and look for pvp fights to see how ppl fight you, also in general close range you lose to geared players its a bit stronger at lower gear
what is max magic res is it still 60%
i have a mixed build with glaciate and stone form and mud wall. i should take crystal sword?
melon cat, what class you playing the squire npc aways equips you the same gear even if you die/lose it.
most sorcs just run longsword so they can have 10 spells
You can get them in your squire kit.
what does that have to do with anything i dont udnerstand
youre asking if you should take crystal sword, im saying probably not
:0 omg...wow. that is crazy. thanks
Just go into your squire and set it as the weapon
ohhhh. i get it you can remove the supress spell
i have 8 spells. im already at 16 so i dont need to
i mean yea you can run crystal sword its just less streamlined
do i get more mana as i level up. i only have 16 points right now so i cant really have 10 spells
Is game lagging for anyone else rn?
its based on your knowledge stat, high knowledge = higher mem cap :D
you can swing a falchion without losing any spells. you cannot use a longsword or magic sword properly without the "supress sorcery" thing in one slot.
you can use a longsword with all 10 spells
legendary morning star or lightbringer
i thought you couldnt parry tho? i dont know, game sucks, don't enjoy it that much
you can :D
They need to hotfix rogues at this point, waiting a week for a patch is just brutal
ohhhhhh.....ii have no gear so :l
thats good to know. thanks. i think i got it now
Double jump, true damage, poison and 2000 knives …
is there a way to increase your knowledge as sorcerer from base with just common gear
gd oktoberfest. I am playing like shit lmao 3 times goblines have fucked me up
faustian goblin or fight wyvern....
gobo
65 for both besides defense mastery and iron will
Lowkey in normals im fighting 161 hp rouges
if you buy an item with a merchant do you get it permanently for every run or just once
oh i have to do quests
been mod almost 3 years
why play squire to riches if ur just ganna rat on your teammates, must not be able to extract otherwise
Shaquilleoatmeal9-Ratted in ice hell on first blue he saw
@devout hill @summer pelican one of u was a worthless rat
Rogues 100% deserve a significant nerf to discourage their ratty, scummy gameplay
Didn't think to try this before hopping off, but does warlocks power of sacrifice/Bloodstained blade work on allies in PvE?
Why is there no penalty for killing an ally multiple times in the arena? I accidentally killed a friend with a fireball, and they gave me a red nickname. Now I've been killed by someone on my team for the fifth time, but I can't report him because of the red nickname. Why isn't the system punishing him?
What is the point of doing arena? Is it just for pvp?
if u run gear that u didnt craft or find in arena, and u die, do u lose it?
small jellyfish does any1 know a spawn that aint prison?
Anyone else experiencing incredibly low fps on Ruins recently even though it used to work perfectly for them?

what afgfinity do you get ghostblade craft for weaponsmith
are any of the questlines actually worth completing? idc about the emotes or skins
No. It’s all a troll game
whats the best way to get purple bangles?
If you play serious, then you have a LOT of time on your hands.
wdym serious
does luck affect what you get out a barnacle
tavern master for stash, treasurer for gold coin chest
Like actually grinding this game solo or on a consistent basis….its fun with some buddies thats about it
I got mine from hitting chest in HR
It’s like a pc game made in 2007
i mean im almost 100% on all the lines i just stopped cus im kind of mad at the rewards for the questlines i had forgotten that treasurer has chest
I feel that
what items can have +mov speed on them. is it based on item slot or base type?
has anyone had the bug where a mob with a bow of some sort will shoot you through an object or mob and it will make the arrow/projectile insta teleport and hit you?
The green sash is a terrible color and should match the Woolen Cap and Watchman Cloak fite me
is there a shark anywhere on new water map outisde the middle?
Anyone know if the armourer last quest is worth turning off 200 torches?
Can you bring anything into arena and not lose it this season or is it just SSF stuff?
HAVING 2 OF THE SAME CLAS ON THE SAME TEAM IN ARENA IS CANCER FOR THIS FUCKING GAME
Remove windlass lol
can i get artifacts from cave troll or spectral knight?
when are the devs coming back from vacation cause im getting a bug where it sends me back to the loading screen
devs can we get balance patch already?
you can bring whatever, you wont lose it
I got the frozen key and went to abyss, now im stuck in a loading screen YAY
It's standard IM practice to leave metas untouched for 1-2 months once a wipe starts. There are only 4 rogues per match in solos.
They did say they now have a balance team instead of sdf doing everything balance related, but I think there's a korean holiday right now.
https://www.twitch.tv/little_pa_pie/clip/JollyInspiringDillKreygasm-HAs5kcPRHPAqdets HOW WERE THEY ABLE TO GO DOUBLE FIGHTER
what unbalanced stuff people coping about now?
Hot take but just get rid of rogues poison weapon from the knives and thats it
ah hell nah!!!! rogues are fine atm in my opinion, just a lot of em lately
i mean thats their meta rn just throw enough knives to have you at half HP with poison and rupture/ normal dmg from the knives then all in
just drink a health pot
and most rogues that try to do this, suck ass and miss 98% of their knives lol, get confident and rush up, and get 2 tapped
idk what class u playin but if u aint a barb with potion chugger u not gonna maintain your HP at a level with just potions
anyways there will be a rogue nerf because mostly of the CC-s are complaining about rogues too i just wait for that and play the game after the balance patch
yea its all the rogue players coping rn saying rogue sucks but then 4 tapping plate fighters while max move speed double jump
i mean the fix is not hard just remove the poison weapon from knives
its not even listed as a weapon anyways its listed as utility
honestly I wouldnt mind seeing it buffed, but removed from hand crossbow and knives
Well, that's only on Sorc; other classes can swing the CSword, but can't block without an empty spell slot
I think its fair that the Minicrossbow can proc poison honestly, but I do NOT find it fair that it procs on throwing knives too
yh mini crossbow is fine and it makes sense
Hell I even want Rogue to get a Survival Bow someday, but they'd have to fix/remove doublejump first before that can happen
naaaah thats too much G
Rogues can kite with the minicrossbow and throwing knives much easier than they could with an actual bow
And if you're gonna kill me with ranged attacks on Rogue, I'd rather you actually just shoot my ass with a bow than land one xbow shot and ten throwing knives
it would bring back the same problem just spam poison from miles away without any setbacks cuz rogue needs the least gear to reach 330 ms
the thing is, the minicrossbow has better projectile speed at range than the survival bow does lmao
You can hold the shot for an extra second or two and hit people across the map with it, but its not like Ranger can't do that exact same thing a lot easier
Not to mention the damage falloff curve on the Survival Bow is pretty crazy
I feel like movespeed needs to be capped at different numbers to factor in active abilities
I think the default speed should be capped at 315, and using movement-increasing skills like Sprint or Rage caps you at 330
What does wtt stand for in trading