game-discussion

[sonic maple]

With righteousness? Undead slaying?

[muted frigate]

na i just take holy purification

[sonic maple]

Well grab one of those if you want 1 shot

Or both if needed

[muted frigate]

ill just stick to closing the door and walking in the opposite direction xD

[fervent anvil]

just dodge :)

also your in base kit :) dont expect to one shot any nightmare mob :) they are nightmare for a reason :)

[muted frigate]

i can tank most even in base just the spiders hate em

[fervent anvil]

its almost like they are designed to be annoying :o

[muted frigate]

probably xD

[smoky jetty]

WTB Zirksis Eye

[naive coral]

Can anyone help and explain what is needed to play this game?

[ivory aurora]

A deep self hatred and deeper hatred for others

[jolly olive]

On August 26, we will be doing a ‘Semi-Semi-Wipe’ which will commence a super condensed mini-season known as ‘EA Season 6.9'. It will basically function as a season without the addition of a season defining feature

[quartz gale]

like what set up?

[livid onyx]

4900+ players rn niice

[blazing sedge]

eyes, hands, ears, and a brain?

[vocal wren]

I mean do they? Content creator feedback is ignored, they do not learn on past mistakes. But sure I guess they care right

[fleet pelican]

Feet 🤤

[fervent anvil]

if they didnt care the game would be way more of a mess then it is now

[muted frigate]

im probably the smallest content creator this game has , and my feed back isnt ignored ...

[indigo wagon]

Yo boss you think we could tone done sorc a little bit? I’m not having fun @glad thunder

[mighty charm]

TF IS A SEMI SEMI WIPE, WHY YOU KEEP WIPING WITH NO CONTENT @glad thunder

[indigo wagon]

yo boss do you think we could nerf sorc a little bit? I’m not having fun. At least take a look into lightning spear I’m getting crowd controlled for 3 seconds and I can’t even play the game

You have to look into nerfing lighting spear on sorc boss. @glad thunder it’s very gimmicky and unbalanced

Can you guys please spam SDF until he removes lightning spear from sorc. He’s a casual who doesent play so he doesent understand how OP it is

[spark hedge]

riposte of longsword doesnt work a lot of times, fix when

[gusty sierra]

Stop wiping w/o content

[indigo wagon]

@spark hedge longsword LOL wrong class bro. Play sorc they get one of those too

[spark hedge]

i dont play cncer classes

[indigo wagon]

Just give sorcerer a machine gun next wipe at this point

morty is the only streamer that gets any views in this game so they probably won’t nerf it. It’s ok I have a lot of other things to play

[spark hedge]

Next wipe uninstail game

casters and ranger ruin the game

[indigo wagon]

Ranger is perfectly fine. Sorc is the problem. 3 seconds immobilization with a 1 tap spell right after lmaoo who play tested that toon and thought that was ok hahaha

[spark hedge]

i think ranger is perfectly OP

[indigo wagon]

nah it’s not op man honestly. You actually have to hit shots or you die. It was OP at beginning of wipe but not now.

nerf windlass even more maybe so it can’t 1 tap any player

[spark hedge]

in arena u win if u have the best ranger

[solar carbon]

@zinc sparrow @glad thunder Can we get the test server back to testing? Would be nice to get our moneys worth for those who purchased Hold the Line edition. Like put up the new map or atleast what you have, the new stuff you guys are planning on rolling out etc. Please ❤️

[indigo wagon]

Ranger is a skill character tho. Sorcerer is not.

[spark hedge]

idk why nerf longsword, in the last patch are decent

exist 9999 shits more broken than longsword, the buff and they nerf again, and worst because they nerf the void blade too

[radiant furnace]

Sorcerer has very few spells that are no skill. Mainly a skill character and that’s why a lot of them do 0 dmg because they don’t know what they’re doing.

[spark hedge]

bro 0 damage? in arena all sorcerers do CRAZY dmg with any spell

[vague quest]

play the game before saying things about the game, please

[maiden crypt]

Arena really shows how absolutely unbalanced this game is

[carmine violet]

is there a reason im getting placed against BIS bois when im squire gear in normals?

[sharp night]

is warlock still good?

[fleet pelican]

No, don’t bother playing lock

[radiant furnace]

You getting destroyed by a fairly easy to counter class does not mean others don’t play 🙏 that just means you’re not good

[vague quest]

10/10 ragebait

[severe coyote]

When you see someine in BiS in normals, just know that they actually really suck at the game. They play in normals so they can fight squire people and feel good because they too trash to play HR with the real ones.

[smoky jetty]

WTB Zirksis Eye

[severe coyote]

at this point are we just kind of hoping nexon wins and takes over the game?

[sharp night]

so what would be good to play

[tribal zodiac]

Try all classes, find playstyle you like to and play that class.

[sharp night]

Yeah i got you im just trying to find out whats meta

[tribal zodiac]

Fck meta.
Enjoy the game

[fleet pelican]

Anything can be meta with the right build

[tribal zodiac]

Once you master some Class, meta wont exist.

[spark hedge]

if u play fighter and u fight to a sorcerer with ur same level of skill, u are cooked. sorcerer have 999 spells for counter you.

[tribal zodiac]

I play Rogue, 99% counter me. Im used to it 😂. Just dont fight alltime, everything on sight

[timber imp]

griefer playstyle rogue 🤢

[fleet pelican]

Depends on the build. Spell reflection exists and can reflect frost lightning

[golden yacht]

just got paired with 2 people in trios that were trying to team kill, i was able to kill one adn then go red and kill the other.

[smoky jetty]

I have zero respect towards anybody playing rouge, specifically landming rogues and the ones with double jump and hella throwing knifes

[fleet pelican]

What about friendly rogues that just play the class for the high reso

[timber imp]

I understand landmining, but they always sitting outside boss rooms to f you over, that's what I dislike about them the most.

[smoky jetty]

I am cool with yall

[smoky jetty]

💯

[timber imp]

I only played rogue when he was good at taking actual fights, but they changed him and made him a griefer playstyle.

[serene bone]

is it just me or does dark and darker keep crashing after leaving a game

[timber imp]

its gei

[serene bone]

ive verified my files like 4 times and nothing

[spark hedge]

spell deflection is a meme

better change the name to meme deflection

[finite crescent]

lmao mic works in lobby, i load a match, mic stopped working, i change source in main settings and it wont change, so i force a change in pc volume & inputs, game FULL FREEZES, My team dies LMAO Im still frozen, Game finally unfreezes to me spectating the dude LMAO i get out of the game back to lobby and mic works again..... i go to change class cause apparently that run just wasn't for me, i click change GAME SHUTS DOWN with UE5 crash reporter lmaooo Rough day in the dungeons

[void kestrel]

\\\\\

[fleet pelican]

It’s literally a free kill on spellcasters in more than one situation if you use it correctly

You can spell reflect warlock curses, and most of the time if they try to phantomize after that they just die, especially if you’re running sprint so you can keep up with their phantomize

[ivory aurora]

Sure, but the problems are that you're both passing up on second wind as well as having a dead skill if you don't run into any casters. Plus if I remember right there's an animation for using spell reflect so your opponent can just choose not to cast for the time being

[spark hedge]

+1

[ivory aurora]

Its like the cleric skill that does a huge damage in a large aoe to undead, yes its really nice when you want to quickly clear things in the ruins, but it does does not help players so it doesnt really get any use. Sadly this is the case for roughly 85% of skills (excluding memory skills)

[signal otter]

"If it's fun, you don't patch it."

[frigid terrace]

hello people of dark and darker, I was wondering if any of the game major content are lock behind legendary status access? since I may have got some misconception that the free version are just a demo, looking forward to try the game out

[tall arch]

the entire game

[solar carbon]

Yes, and then once you unlock access with legendary, all of the best content will be locked behind gear based pvp.

[frigid terrace]

so its basically 30 dollars game 💔

[smoky jetty]

who needs trolls blood? I got like 30 to sell

[tall arch]

30 dollar garbage

[frigid terrace]

ah damn I thought I may have found f2p game to play for a while, guess not

[ivory aurora]

let me save you the trouble, here's what would happen if you played f2p

[queen panther]

DO NOT BUY THIS GAME lol

It is a scam, they are actively sabotaging it.

[ivory aurora]

You get into a game, and a minimum of 3 guys in the most expensive gear will rush straight towards you and kill you in no less than 2 shots. You get frustrated after this happens about 15 times and quit

[queen panther]

They use to have gear brackets, took it out so the people who run it can gear diff most of their fights; while they wait for court proceedings.

[smoky jetty]

this already happens in normals

[sonic maple]

always try and think for yourself

[frigid terrace]

well if the people who actively or have played the game told me to not get into this game I am convinced hahah, thanks for the answers guys

[queen panther]

I have 2000 hours

[smoky jetty]

Timmies will die to people in normals with even artifacts that they cant even acces themselfs because they cant enter trading post nor even farm them due no acces to HR

[queen panther]

Until they start caring please don't waste your money.

[frigid terrace]

got you

[ivory aurora]

yeah, thats what I just described to the guy who was thinking about trying. Happens every time

[smoky jetty]

and yes there is actually people in normals with artifacts, I spotted quite a few

[queen panther]

I wouldn't doubt it if they also run the pay 2 win website sellers. They're weird dude.

[smoky jetty]

Its towards end of the wipe so people dont give a fuck and run them, but they find it very amusing to run them in normals

[ivory aurora]

Like imagine if sweatlords put the same effort into a trade instead of a video game. there'd be a shortage of work in a month or two

[subtle finch]

Having a problem with in game voip, mic sounds deep fried or robotic, but on every other game/application it’s fine, tried messing with some stuff but can’t figure it out, I have the correct mic set to default as well

[timber imp]

How much gold you askin

[smoky jetty]

They go right now for 1k but I need gold fast so Id sell for a bit less like 950

[timber imp]

I'll take 1 for 900 >:)

[smoky jetty]

buy more than 1 pls or else no discount

[timber imp]

Nah

Worst merchant ever 😛

[smoky jetty]

sure

[ivory aurora]

i miss the dungeon merchant roleplayers

[smoky jetty]

same actually 🤣

[fleet pelican]

I still do this! Great way to make money when you meet someone willing to buy

[smoky jetty]

you sell artifacts too? 😂

[fleet pelican]

Fuck no! I leave them in the middle of gc to watch people devolve into madness

[smoky jetty]

🤣 👍

[median salmon]

Ironmace doesnt have a mic guy anymore, he left the company

[left steppe]

Has anyone noticed that unnatural teaming has become a lot more frequent since the game started "falling"

[tawdry schooner]

what class is easiest to learn troll on?

[left steppe]

I recommend rogue for almost any boss, look up a tutorial if it's too hard

[smoky jetty]

yep

[median salmon]

any class can kill troll easily. Side Step left and counter hit.

[tawdry schooner]

any1 ever use a vpn to go to a diff region ?

[subtle finch]

ironmace doesnt have anyone anymore, just sdf and the vision

[maiden crypt]

The only server is in China

[tawdry schooner]

u cant go to a less poppin region to practice boss maybe?

[subtle finch]

or pve?

[fervent anvil]

they have an entire mode in the game dedicated for people who want to learn stuff

[tawdry schooner]

Ye just annoying when u go in to learn troll and there's 5 other nakeds there doing the same thing

[fervent anvil]

then get good at pvp and do it there

[tawdry schooner]

ye

[fierce violet]

wtf is wrong with this dumb game won't even launch up any more

[fervent anvil]

click the play button

[fierce violet]

get off the discord

[fervent anvil]

nah

[fierce violet]

just kidding it was funny but I do have to already blocked from being annoying in this discord none stop from months ago and I assume you haven't changed

[fervent anvil]

im only annoying to people with a skill issue :)

[boreal crown]

whats are the top 3 best character in game?

[tawdry schooner]

druid sorc barb

[rare urchin]

depends your play style I would say barbarian , druid and sorc

[boreal crown]

ah ok

[tawdry schooner]

they all pretty playable right now , some classes are just way better in squire than other classes in squire

bards kinda dumpster

[fervent anvil]

the class your best at, the class your second best at and the class your third best at

[buoyant panther]

NICE, i go deeper with a ahh ton of loot on me and i dont even load into the next dungeon, this game is ahhhh

aint even enough people online to crash the game , these devs are horrrrrific

[boreal crown]

Sorcerers seems OP ash

[boreal crown]

this dude

[solid cypress]

People with skill issue aren’t a problem. People who deny their skill issue is a problem

[fervent anvil]

so like 80% of this server?

[maiden crypt]

fuck halberd remove that fucking weapon

[smoky jetty]

I agree

[median anvil]

yes

[cursive canopy]

Interesting to hear the halberd hate

[rare edge]

nice halberd hate

[stray nimbus]

Is arena still on or nah

[mellow charm]

Why does this feel like the end nexon court date approaching it’s no guarantee that we even have a dark and darker come September

[hot phoenix]

Rooting for Nexon
Shut this trash down!

[solar carbon]

Deep down we all want Ironmace to win and yall know that lol The problem isnt the game, its the pvp. People saying its skill based dont know what a skill based game is. Its all gear based. They need to add actual combat mechanics into the game to make it skill based with gear supplementation. As the game stands, pvp relys on mainly gear for stat checking and whoever brings the most consumables and throwables in lol The pvp sucks. I will say though, if they lose to nexxon, it will be funny to see all of the toxic players upset xD

[solid cypress]

What’s the best run em down comp rn? Barb, bard, wiz?

[full creek]

whats ur play time bud

[solar carbon]

Been playing since it released homie

[full creek]

its not hard to get gear idk how this is still debated

[solid cypress]

So how can they make pvp better?

[full creek]

bard or cleric and then wiz or ranger

[solar carbon]

I dont think getting gear is the problem. I just dont think the way pvp works in this game is fun. Getting gear is easy and they made it even easier to do it with base kit. The pvp is just trash

[full creek]

what aspects of the pvp dont u like

like i can agree that one season with the uniques with 19 magic heal was ridiculous but like now i dont see much of a misbalance or people getting entirely carried by gear

its an extraction game like if the gear isnt gonna give you ANY advantage over some1 its just like a battle royale

[delicate steppe]

Yea gear is essential.. I think there's just not enough combat skills is what he's saying..like dynamic skills

[flat coyote]

Game felt pretty good when the base HP was higher and we had gear score brackets imo

Also randomized modules are ass and I liked fog of war

[solar carbon]

I think this is a pve game that just integrated pvp with pve mechanics and its horrible lol Bring in a bunch of throwables and a bunch of heals. Chip them with throwables to gain advantage then go melee. Take damage and lose advantage? Run away and heal. Can you honestly say that sounds fun? Its garbage and its boring. Theres no skill in that. If I am playing pvp, I want there to be actual combat mechanics that take skill. Theres just no depth to it. I honestly have more fun finding loot and killing bosses than I do participating in pvp lol

[solar carbon]

Also, yes. Gear should make you way more distinguishable. In pve lol PvP should be skill based with depth and its just not

[flat coyote]

Go play chivalry then

[solar carbon]

You dont like depth in your pvp?

[full creek]

Idk man it’s a spacing thing to not get caught in a combo i don’t want to say that like u wrong but it’s how you win fights. Just hating on people for liking PvP that u don’t understand is kinda rude bro

[flat coyote]

The PVP is literally what makes the game fun . Bossing is only fun when your pulling artis and looting gets old quick . That's why I said we need higher ttk so the fights arent over in 2 seconds

[full creek]

That would add more skill requirements to a fight I like it

[steady saffron]

@solid cypress hi man

[gusty birch]

Sorry, I don't want to sound stupid. But should I keep the "coin chest" as a quest reward for the start of the new seven wipe. Or will the quest chains be reset and should I take it now?

[solar carbon]

Wym? I didnt hate on anyone. Just pointed out that the pvp lacks depth and would make it fun for more people if there was more depth to it. I understand how to win with how the pvp currently is, I am simply saying its stale and gets old fast. Its the same thing over and over

[full creek]

Cmon man this ain’t hate?

[solar carbon]

It was a question in response to him telling me to go play chiv rather than participate meaningfully in the conversation

[full creek]

Have u played all the classes too?

[gusty birch]

aw, it is clearly stated that quests will be reset so that damn chest i tryin to do the quest from previous full-wipe for... finally mine at least 😹

[stray nimbus]

Is arena still on?

[solar carbon]

I dont see how that matters but yeah I have. Used to main fighter, fell in love with barb and am currently enjoying sorcerer as it feels like the most skill based class.

[solar carbon]

Yeah I dont see how any of what I have said could be interpreted as hate brother. I get that some people probably like the pvp as it currently is and youre probably one of them, but I am simply saying it lacks depth and I personally find it boring now.

[flat coyote]

Your not wrong but they will likely never expand on it so that's why I suggested chiv

[solar carbon]

Yeah I have put alot of time into chiv and mord already lol Just enjoying the bossing and loot finding in DaD rn

[vast hare]

hey do anyone's game have a microstutter what hitting something in game physically ?

[zealous ermine]

.

[still cloud]

Are you on low settings? If so your probably just lagging/ bad connection speed

[zealous ermine]

bro 4080 ti i9 14900k gb download speecd

like and he keeps freezing when he hits a object like player or walls but only with phis stuff

[plucky ingot]

how is this matchmaking good bro ass asf spawnm in on norms and get matched with someone that has 3 legendary pieces of armor like how no way he could have lotted it started with a game with 0 on the clock fix ur fucking game. used to be a good game

[flat coyote]

Yeah used to be , you should prolly quit playing help make it a dead game

[swift pumice]

do duos and solos not exist anymore?

[gritty sigil]

is this game just trash asf now?

[solar carbon]

Yo whats your channel name? You stream?

[flat coyote]

Super trash you can just tell by how many people are talking and in the voice channels it's on life support rn

[gritty sigil]

what wrong? just unbalanced items, bugs, matchmaking...?

i havent played in like 6 months, last time i was on it was fun tho

[flat coyote]

Lots wrong , they lowered ttk , removed name tags for party members . Made it so the maps are exclusive to solo /duo / trio , no goblin recovery , No new content, semi wipe instead of a wipe so no one really wants to grind there's no rewards or leaderboards , Server issues I myself haven't been able to connect in 3 weeks

[plucky ingot]

@flat coyote100% brother

[glossy talon]

anything i can do to not get hit through the shield even though i am successfully blocking it?

[plucky ingot]

no same thing happens when trying to parry with a longsword

[glossy talon]

yea it stinks lol

[delicate steppe]

Block like Neo

[analog shale]

sdf

[dire heron]

ping is king this game is basically a latency battle

[coral thistle]

My god im not crazy

Restarting pc sometimes fixes, but for me if I run any program other than DaD I have to restart my pc before it works.

[gusty birch]

Bro im myself a big lover of loong ttk, if its not gonna lead to "Deadlock" gameplay where you basically can change some dmg with people over 50 meters and its gonna be 3-6 hp outta ~750 (+ friendly creep heals you for 50 every 5 sec) so it can be a silly showdown and you basically better do any other thing 😹
But in this game some classes were totally weak, like only experienced wizards can not be feared by close combat, rogue without poison weapon were a joke itself... At least now it feels like you actually do something...

[mystic heron]

idk i myself like the fast paced really twitchy fast ttk and can flip the tides of a fight quickly which is super beneficial in 1v2+ scenarios
least as a sorcerery with a long sword

[north portal]

my buddy keeps asking me to queue snipe him in normals and team up but I don't want to get banned

[mystic heron]

one succesfull parry to the head is all it takes to get even a fullkit barb running

deadlock is a moba hybrid so i understand the really really REALLY long ttk but yeah if u get 1vX'd most of the time you are screwed as its SUPPOSED to be

[gusty birch]

You know guys im remember i found a mod for Fallout: New Vegas, it called "Project Nevada" and it adds a ton of features including a proper treshold , cause in vanilla you can be hurt by a cockroach even in power armour 😹 Some kind of "minimal treshold of damage". But with it, its add a visor feature (your vision is limited by the helm that you wear) , so you actually kind of can feel your armor.
And this brings gameplay just to new lvl guys, so despite obvious contradictory things (like many classes actually dont need hundsgugel or bascinet), i though it can bring crazy immersion.. can i hope ?

[wide herald]

Yes I’ve had the issue before. Update your GPU and restart your PC. Do you tend to leave it on always/never shut it down?

[ebon anchor]

Anyone seen the new crocodilian skin? What's that thing he is holding? A new weapon?

[trail grail]

Is dungeon recovery on for PVE?

[torpid helm]

i havent played this game in a min whats the hotkey for moving stuff into stash quikc

[brittle bridge]

shift right click

[neat haven]

Skull key giveaway @ https://www.twitch.tv/guildleader_

[zinc ridge]

bro nahhh

[silver hornet]

nerfing spec was dumb very very dumb

[timber imp]

That croc race clean af tho

Gj @zinc sparrow

[slim tulip]

everything will be resseted

[slim tulip]

yes, it only worls fpr Adventure mode

[hallow mango]

Gj what? you think he did anywork in that besides clocking in and putting his feet up?

plus why do we need croc skin when we have lizard

[sturdy surge]

It's gonna look nothing like that in game

[hallow mango]

right its just concept art that @zinc sparrow defifntly had no part in

[severe coyote]

sdf won't ban you, he can't risk losing 5% of his playerbase

[snow yoke]

Bring back teammates nameplate please.

[silver smelt]

i see so more and more teaming in the game, is this the result of adding PvE mode?

[trim horizon]

No????

[finite yoke]

Yeah after they added PVE mode I exclusively queued solos with my friends in discord

[long compass]

Same honestly

[sonic maple]

XD

[hoary parcel]

This game is very fun and totally balanced, every caster should get more ms and damage, they're abit slow

[crystal yew]

hey guys im looking for a M-speed set for rogue for pve but cant find attribute with move speed any tips?

[barren trellis]

Go for agi stat, loose trousers, lightfoot boots, agi rings, shadow mask, adventurer cloak,

[crystal yew]

oke thanks!

[winged herald]

hunted down again by a kitted out trio as a solo player in the corner of the map. thats all this shit is is kitted out trios probly with a barb gear-checking people (mostly solo players)

[zenith arch]

The best thing is to quit now and stop losing precious time with this dead game.

[humble badge]

This one is real answer to this game

[fading palm]

how much will should i shoot for with warlock

[open hound]

Ive seen some beautiful usages of esp when it comes to for instance people running artifacts.

Teammates die. Guy hides in inferno, the 2 long hallways with many doors.

Doesnt kill anything, just ups and opens a door and hides.

Low and behold, a team comes through, their cleric checks only the one door, where theyre hiding.

Theres worse problems than barbs, or trios checking solos.

[silver smelt]

The number of barbarians in the dungeon scares me.
maybe class is too strong?

[muted frigate]

play bard and barbs dont mean sht any more

[runic forum]

If I have a +2 additional magic longsword and run it on fighter that's a dead roll right? Like it doesn't actually give it 2 magic damage does it?

[muted frigate]

it gives you +2 addition magic meaning when you use a spell it will increase the damage

[runic forum]

You can't use spells with a longsword out lol

I'm guessing it's just for boc but I thought I'd make sure

[muted frigate]

honestly

agility movement speed it means jack in this game

60 agility 330 ms rogue getting run down by a 290 22 agility NAKED barb its stupid

[runic forum]

Ms is literally like one of the most important stats that's kinda crazy to say

[muted frigate]

Read the full comment

i had 330ms the highest you can a barb with 290 ran me down

[woven jackal]

if the barb had rage and max beserker MS hes the same MS as you

[flat coyote]

The servers are down

[silver smelt]

Are they?

[candid plover]

Anyone wanna trade zirkzis for cinder

[hoary parcel]

I'll give you 2 grubs

[trim tendon]

remove ms. add sprint with stamina. problem solved

[tired furnace]

MATCH IN PROGRESS NO FROCK U LET ME PLAY

[solid cypress]

Ayo?

[timber imp]

Well it's on his channel so he's working on it? Duh Lizard gonna be old news now

[woven jackal]

then barb is just OP lmaoooo. your delulu. thats worse then sdfs vision

[wicked stump]

[inner terrace]

I've been gone for 2 weeks from this game, NGL Grayzone a lot of fun than this trash fire at the moment.

[inland scarab]

Player names not showing in trio's, is this bug or vision?

[unreal obsidian]

5+ minute queue times in normal trios.. yay

[livid condor]

Thats what happens when u try to play trio as a solo

[cursive canopy]

i wish there was a practice mode where i could just shoot crossbow bolts at druids in chicken and rat form

[junior wyvern]

at this point they could serve a steaming dookie on a plate and you folks would eat it up lol

devs cackling while they ask themselves how long can we keep these suckers playing for minimal effort?

[unreal stirrup]

A plate of steamers emote would be sick honestly

Guy has great ideas to make this game better I won’t lie

[junior wyvern]

if i was the lead dev dark and darker would be thriving

[tribal zodiac]

You can do thet in normal match, cuz Thats their only gameplay.

[polar hemlock]

Hi, when will you fix your game instead of ruining it and then restoring it back again?

https://medal.tv/pl/games/dark-and-darker/clips/kSmRR6IFiadpo45Dl?invite=cr-MSxjQ0IsMzE2MzY5MTM0&v=15

[fervent anvil]

heh. skill issue

[rustic oar]

how is there still a 3k player base

[wooden swallow]

i have a question, is anyone else having seriously weird latancy problems in the game?

caus i love this game but at this point even if im playing solo i keep rubber banding and i KNOW its not on my side thats the problem

[tulip skiff]

Yes - Rubber banding simulator 2.0

[agile tide]

I haven't experienced any rubber banding even though I used to - game has been smooth for me

[wooden swallow]

like i get motionsick from how much, and of course in the game you die in three hits and boom, the most confusing and shortest round of DaD ever XD

[wooden swallow]

maybe in the new patch its better?

[tulip skiff]

LOL yeah, moving through doorways after opening a door and then rubber banding is wild

[agile tide]

I did just hop back in three days ago after a 7-8 month break, and haven't noticed the latency issues I used to have. Only change on my end is the graphics card, but that wouldn't make sense (I don't think)

[wooden swallow]

I mean honeslt its kinda insane how often they release patches

[agile tide]

IMO it's the reason for the player loss, game is literally back to no gear score brackets/no like it was 2 years ago, but the hundred mini patches that bounced back and forth for months in the middle just made ppl mad (understandably)

[wooden swallow]

i really enjoy it the game, but its almost too hard for new players just to get in. i like that it is hard but from what i hear it use to be like its kinda sad to see so few people playing it, like its genuinley soo fucking fun and good but also so frustrating for now reason

[tribal zodiac]

Its fcked up by opened gear limits at normals tho.

+PvE mode isnt helping much..

Also overall ppl got way better than past year and so.

[ivory aurora]

yep have fun getting spawn rushed by people with the best gear possible. #the-vision

[tribal zodiac]

THey have to do Normals only self found items or cap it at rare/epic entry maximum.

[agile tide]

Yeah, that's the only problem with no noob lobbies. There should probably at least be an 0-24 lobby like there used to be, but with no gold/frostlight and no boss drops to keep it safe from the 1000 hour farmers. I get that PvE is good for learning mobs, but there should also be somewhere for new players to learn to fight without getting their heads bashed in

[tribal zodiac]

What I dont understand most, why is possible entry with items, that barely drops or doesnt drop at all at norms.

[agile tide]

I killed a barb in norms yesterday with over 10k of gear on him. Imagine learning the game with this guy lurking around in your norms lobbies lol

And then I got dusted by a warlock in full uniques with 18MH, norms again

Which I don't mind, risking their gear is fine, just sucks for new players getting deleted repeatedly by pubstompers

[ivory aurora]

yep that's the vision sdf had

[tribal zodiac]

I was playin pickpocket rogue 2 days ago in abyss and noticed duo Clerik+Archer fully bised out (lege, but maxed rolls) hunting new players..
So i decided to hunt them multiple times in next games.. got few ranger gears from it :d

[agile tide]

It's crazy what you can find in norms these days lmao. Tbh I don't blame them entirely since HR is pretty dead, they might just be bored

[tribal zodiac]

HR is fcked up by Circle Swarm tho.
Or atleast I dont like it, and I hate playing circle at Crawling mode

I fully understand if its arena/BR mode.. with last man standing.. bt not at this one

[agile tide]

Yeah, since ppl aren't a fan of swarm, and juiced PvPers are sick of dead HR lobbies, norms is just thunderdome rn. I would honestly recommend new players just play HR and farm treasure. Probably won't see a player half the time

[tribal zodiac]

Legit rn after looting 1 module you can get more items than whole Normal lobbby.

[finite hedge]

I’m japanese.Can someone tell me meaning of mothesucka?????

[placid shale]

Go into goblin caves, finish dying 1v3 to 3 rogues, nice games

[tribal zodiac]

Rogues united

You can oneshot each of them so its fair

[placid shale]

i mean, i killed 2 tho, squire warlock but like that's sad

[placid shale]

in what its fair lmaooo i go goblin cuz i'm solo uhuh

[tribal zodiac]

Go Abyss, way better tho and 1v2 is ok

[placid shale]

yeah on warlock its ok

[crystal bronze]

bring back gearscore brackets! people running with uniques in norms is ridiculous

[agile tide]

You don't need to wear much to be competitive, like yeah sometimes you meet the mega juicer but tbh I just slap on a set of blues for my build and win most of the time

[crystal bronze]

id like to see you win the same class with blues on while other wears legendary and uniques

[ivory aurora]

funny enough theres a chance it might kill the game faster to put the gear brackets in, I've already heard of people having 5 minute queue times. What happens when you narrow out the people you can match with

[agile tide]

I might have been unclear, I'm not saying I always beat the geared guys. I'm saying that they are rare enough where a set of blues is competitive in the dungeon and always profitable

[crystal bronze]

yeah i can accept that

[agile tide]

But every once in a while I do manage to kill them and then it's a lot of fun (for me)

[fervent anvil]

id do it. its ez

[graceful storm]

I do that too lmao

[crystal bronze]

send me a clip

[fervent anvil]

you gonna fund me a good blue kit that i can run in arena?

[crystal bronze]

not talking about arena here

[graceful storm]

Do you think its not possible and gear is the only thing that determines who wins a fight

[agile tide]

I think we were just discussing consistent wins. Theoretically if two players are equal skill, the one with better gear should be winning most of the time

[graceful storm]

Bc thats what it sounds like

[crystal bronze]

not saying its not possible by any means

dr00k gets it

personally id like to see legendaries and uniques only in highroller

[graceful storm]

Of course you dont win them all but you have a good shot and it happens

[fervent anvil]

you still plan on funding a kit i can even use? you want the clip right?

[graceful storm]

I love doing 0 hero HR runs starting in squire gear

[agile tide]

Definitely the most fun, agree. Also definitely not the most competitive way to play lol

[crystal bronze]

sry cant fund anything

[fervent anvil]

no clip for u then

[crystal bronze]

a great player like u surely has a clip in store ?

[fervent anvil]

on my old pc maybe. dont plan on plugging that in or taking it apart just to find it tho

[graceful storm]

Yeah true. i didnt grind at all since the semi wipe stuff was announced so I'm just broke all the time so thats basically all I feel like doing when I get on

[crystal bronze]

sure buddy

[graceful storm]

I do it either way some of the time though even if I'm loaded i think its fun

[tribal zodiac]

me 2.
Only holding top tier rolls for arena fun.

I wish there is Self found lobbys tbh. and no gear on market, except Consumables, Craftables or Crafted items.

[agile tide]

There's so much loot these days it's pretty fun to just build up from squire. I usually do the same and then buy the last few pieces once it starts coming together

[graceful storm]

Yep same

[tribal zodiac]

Running game, die, re-buy is booring af

[agile tide]

SSF always sounds like a lot of fun until I imagine finding an awesome piece of gear and having nowhere to sell it. Or winning a pvp fight and having the same issue. Selling gear and building a stash is core to the game, so we need a different solution. Yes, you could always just have a character for every class and wear the gear you find, but personally I don't really want to do that.

[tribal zodiac]

Thats why Normal lobby = SSF would be pretty nice.
and HR open gear.

[agile tide]

I wouldn't mind that. Would also keep normals at a somewhat lower gear level, where it probably should be

[tribal zodiac]

No need to be low gear, just self found entry like arena has. (but account wide.) I hate when i drop something on differenct class than main and cant use it at arena.

in other hand rn Epic gear entry on normals would be fine. if not self found.

[agile tide]

I'm just saying that it would be naturally lower gear score with purchases disallowed. If that were the case though I would like gear looted from players to be re-minted in my name, which it currently is not

[tribal zodiac]

ye true, understand

[vocal bramble]

#dnd-memes-only message with a .001% artifact drop rates in reward tokens rng it would take 69k reward token pulls to have a 50% chance at pulling at artifact, 230k reward tokens pulls to have 90% chance, and 460k tokens to have a 99% chance at an artifact. The goal isn't to give away bis gear with rewarding in game system loops, the goal is to create more sustainable game loops that feel rewarding and have a chance at high dopamine. Reddit wouldn't use any logic in the counter arguments and just went the "nuh uh" route

[agile tide]

sir this is a Wendy's

[vocal bramble]

[stark spoke]

guys just unninstall game so maybe there will be another game launch better than this shit

[sharp tide]

they remove the parry of longsword?

[agile tide]

nope, parry is still there

[timid ore]

remember to quit this discord. thx

[stark spoke]

na I will stay here forever for blame. they killed my favorite game I wont forget this

[late ravine]

^Fr though, its like my favorite ice cream shop is burning to the ground. Obviously I'm not going to stand inside of it but I'm damn well gonna watch.

[sharp maple]

@zinc sparrow Hello. I understand the removal of map rotation for the current low player count. Howveer is want to play all the maps with my friends. At the start of the next season will the map rotation system return due to higher player count?

[silver smelt]

Removal of map rotation?

Last time we had map rotation was 2 years ago?

[deft lintel]

The map rotation was not removed due to low player count.

It was because people complained about it and thought it was “annoying”. I agree map rotation was a good solution, especially now with the reduced player count.

[sharp tide]

at which time gates open, pls '-'

[tribal zodiac]

Map Rotation like it was last year was great.
I totally dont udnerstand why its not up yet.

1st its booring play 1 map alll over again.
2nd playing w randoms is frustrating.

Glad im Rogue main and Im fine playing solo at any map.
BUT when I play with friends, we are boored as hell running one map alltime

[agile tide]

If there were a base player count to support it, I think there should at least be a solo queue on each map for questing purposes. Ice can keep duos and Crypts can keep trios, just stick on a solo q

[deft lintel]

What’s the difference between this and the current adventure mode? Is it that bad that there might be other players in you lobby that might be in a team?

[tribal zodiac]

mobs dont drop quest item much

[agile tide]

Of course, yes lol
I should be more clear, I want to quest while also play the game with a chance of 1v1s, not mindlessly farm pixels in adventure mode.

[silver smelt]

Bro thinking only about his own favorite mode

[tribal zodiac]

remove adventure mode
add Squire gear mode.

I love PvE(not the mode, but PvE) and PvP is part of this game and new players should encounter pvp. Cuz later on, they jump into classic mode and get womped by anyone.

[livid onyx]

The only time I've held a deathbloom was from reward tokens xD

[mellow fox]

people are just blatantly teaming in solos thats cool, i hope this game dies

[deft lintel]

So really it has nothing to do with questing. You just want solos on each map. But maybe not HR

[livid onyx]

Hit em with the ole razzle dazzle

[silver smelt]

I only felt it in my skull when encountering the most skilled rogue player camping stairs

[finite scroll]

how is the state of the game these days? I saw a lot of negative stuff for a while

[mellow fox]

people are teaming in the only solos map, dont play this piece of garbage

[livid onyx]

Teaming has always been allowed in normals, what's not allowed in inorganic preteaming.

[agile tide]

I mean it does have something to do with questing (no matter what I'm doing the game is not fun if there are no player threats so I don't really play pve mode), and yes I'd prefer all maps to have multiple queue options ideally. Understand why they don't now, though.

[livid onyx]

The problem is how do you determine it's preteaming and not a temporary alliance that formed in that match.

[mellow fox]

teaming is teaming, i dont know how you defend being a piece of shit, teaming shouldn't be allowed at all

[silver smelt]

Pve mode made people soft. They like to team

[mellow fox]

^

[agile tide]

Did we revert from teaming being bannable? Is it still? HR only? I'm behind

[vocal bramble]

W

[livid onyx]

I organically team but I don't do it blatantly, I play a neutral style I don't attack non aggressors, the only time I mess with players is in troll room, and I only attack you if you attack me. We either kill troll together and I let you get the loot, or I get troll to bonk you

[mellow fox]

found the pve player, and of course hes defending teaming lol

[agile tide]

Doesn't really matter if people organically team in normals, at least it encourages ppl interacting on Voip which always felt pretty core to the game.

I'm more of an on sight type of player, but ppl can do whatever I guess

[summer elk]

without gear score .. this game is SO bad !

[livid onyx]

That's what I enjoy the most, player interactions, if it's all PvP people call this a BR game. If it's all farming it's loot simulator. I like a healthy balance of chaotic PvP moments with voip and PvE.

[agile tide]

Personally I do not miss the days of painstakingly crafted gemmed $6k blues kits being necessary to compete in norms lol

[mellow fox]

just "organically team" to compete

[agile tide]

I don't team personally, feels unfun

[livid onyx]

What do you like the most about gear score lobbies?

[graceful storm]

I thought the 224 lobbies were pretty fun but i prefer no gear brackets

[agile tide]

224 was ok but the whole process of carefully staying under a certain gs was not very fun IMO

[strong hemlock]

I'm newbie but already seen gear score limit, no-limits and rarity-based limits. The last one is my beloved and hope it will be back

[graceful storm]

I liked the idea of bc you couldn't have everything, you had to make trade offs on the kit but yeah that part of building the kit was super annoying if you wanted to be min maxed it took forever

[brave oriole]

Rarity lobbies were so bis bro im so mad. We literally had it perfect bro if they had just kept the lobby queue system they had during the 10k peaks we wouldve been in heaven

[strong hemlock]

what is lobby queue?

[brave oriole]

Solo duo trio all maps with squires rares purples unlimited rarity lobbies

Imagine if theyd instead had the current system of solo gc duo ice trio ruins

But with squire blu purp unlimiteds

Or even squore blu leg unlimiteds

Pure cinema. It wouldve been so much better at retaining players

Guarantee them lobbies wouldnt feel any more dead than current dad lobbies

[livid onyx]

That's alot of queues, that's 5 queues types per map if we don't count adventure mode.

[brave oriole]

Go on ahead, go play ice duos norms

I dare you. I go 2-3 raids without seeing another player consistently

[strong hemlock]

You mean, the game were automatically joining you to the appropriate game based on your team and gear?

[ivory aurora]

More queues means longer queues. Longer queues mean less players

[split wadi]

Gear score lobbies were fun, but still subject to annoying min maxing (copperlight grimsmile white weapon meta). Not a huge deal but I don't think it's a very good solution for the problems in the game because it involves a lot of gear value nonsense which isn't intuitive for onboarding new players to the game and doesn't feel 'natural'. Rarity is a bit more accessible and far easier for a new player to understand. If some crafted gear become problems you can always just change their rarity or something

[livid onyx]

5000/15, potentially 333 players per queue before we factor regions.

[tribal zodiac]

Fck this guys, devs are BOTs here, even community guys are BOTs, not a single one responds to messages, support doesnt exists etc. no point write suggestions, nobody listen. I lost hope here on discord.

[livid onyx]

The most popular queue will be squire lobby and blue lobby.

[brave oriole]

Honestly man this game is so dead it doesnt matter anymore, but when blue lobbies were removed my 6 man team quit the game and im the only survivor

So obviously there was a market for it

[split wadi]

Blue lobby was really fun

[graceful storm]

Even if the amount of queues didnt matter, which it does even with 5-10k players , I like the simpler queues. Pick norms or HR then you get gear and figure it out

[livid onyx]

The most popular queue was 124 gearscore

[split wadi]

0-24 was also really popular, especially when decent rarity gear was dropping frequently

[brave oriole]

Blue lobby was like going whaling. The moment u saw a single blue chapel or hgaunt you knew u were hunting moby d1k bro that was a WHAAAALE!!! THAR SHE BLOWS!!

The crafted gear's value was OBSCENE back then

[graceful storm]

I remember that, there would always be one guy in all copper light and max true damage sweating the 124 lobbies

[somber flame]

Does this patch have duos?

[ivory aurora]

No, only trios. It might say duos but it's trios

[livid onyx]

Yeah or max health / PDR bards

[somber harbor]

where would i find the scroll for the mummy quest?

[livid onyx]

Ice map is duos rn

[split wadi]

Lol IT'S SO TRUE! Also that decked out blue lobby dude could probably 2 tap you with their maxed out true damage gear. Id play with my more casual buds and they would get absolutely destroyed by these people and not know why they were hitting so hard (true damage true damage true damage). I like the way gear is now with it confined to only weapons and amy

[brave oriole]

Ice map has duos and ice norms is entirely devoid of life so u can farm to ur hearts content

[graceful storm]

The more I think about it I dont really miss those days lol it just over complicating things imo.

[winged herald]

if you like to play solo, this game is just absolute dog sh1t

[tribal zodiac]

I play with people who i kill.

[brave oriole]

Yeah naw. I used to be the whale. Drop 8k on a pure bis rolled crafted monster kit with like 180 hp on a buckler falch fighter and just walk into 1v2s and 1v3s raidbossing, since like 80% of blue lobby players were in full squires since they just wanted the tripled loot rarity from squires

[livid onyx]

Yeah the min maxing of blue gear was boring and people complained about it all the same as they do now against unrestricted gear. Idk but if you read "Life after death" in the kill feed in normals, the first thing I'm doing is trying to recruit players to take that juiced player down

[tribal zodiac]

Who Ironmace community coordinators coordinate?

[brave oriole]

Shit was a trip 🤣

[livid onyx]

Ive dogpiled a few normal game lobsters in my time

[split wadi]

Blue gear was still insane back then. I'm glad the power curve is a lot smoother now

[brave oriole]

I still run cobalt hgaunts in most of my fighter kits ngl. Their price ratio is great

[livid onyx]

Yeah cobalt gear vs other PDR builds had an insane edge, now it's not much of a difference in stats

Crafted gear got shafted pretty hard

[brave oriole]

Good day get a stack of cobalt for like 120 gp and a set of hgaunts from merch for 30 for effectively a shitrolled purple

[livid onyx]

I'm just happy they finally nerfed Lightfoot boots to reasonable levels

[brave oriole]

But hey hgaunts were goated as it is so ur still saving hella money and gemming is likr 1/3 price

[split wadi]

It's probably the least valued of the item sets but it's probably the best one to run for certain classes like rogue. I hope they add more in the future because hunting for mats is kinda fun and when you pull some valuable crafting mats off a dead player it feels rewarding

[livid onyx]

I hope they decide to add more elemental damage stuff into the game, imagine if Frost light gear had frost resistance and a weakness to fire, or copper light had a resistance to lightning but a weakness to earth damage ECT.

[winged herald]

how is this game still absolute dog sh1t

[split wadi]

I wonder if they'll ever make set bonuses in the game. Could be cool

[livid onyx]

Hating is free, and nobody has made a game that truly competes with this one.

[tribal zodiac]

They cant handle current numbers, please dont give them more numbers to play and say "OH we fix this number 2 to 5" "oh it was too much we go 5-2" 😄

[summer elk]

now every game i have to trade and go out with a great or GG gear to always fight ppl OVER GEAR.. i like to enter a game and fight with the gear we found in the actual game

[livid onyx]

True, but specific elemental resistances isn't as broad as the full scope of PDR and MDR

[split wadi]

If all you do is dig for shit that's all you'll find

[uncut raptor]

Is 1 true phys higher damage than 1 strength? And by how much?

[graceful storm]

Hell no then it becomes wtf are you doing if you go into a game without perfect set bonus thats just as bad as the true damage gear was

[vapid oyster]

we lowered a stat by 50% and it was too much, so we raised back up to 100% and that's it, like there's no other possible change lmao

[tribal zodiac]

They are not even able to respond here in chat, communication is a freakin 0 from any single of them. fck suggestions, everything.

[livid onyx]

It's alot easier to allow something like elemental resistance to be too weak or too strong as opposed to PDR or MDR because they apply to far more scenarios

[split wadi]

Depends if the set bonuses are combat or utility related. Maybe the sets are weaker but the set gives you increased jump height or herbal sense or something silly like that

[ivory aurora]

Tell me what's better: 1% of 46 or 50 plus 1

[livid onyx]

You don't have to, I can send you a clip of me in base kit getting a rogue killed who has a 8-10k kit on

The risk of base kit is 0 the risk of losing an expensive kit is literally the cost of the kit.

[uncut raptor]

Pls explain lol

[brave oriole]

They need to make bloodsap blade pair with a primary weapon that deals 1 damage to you in exchange for action speed on your offhand attack truly truly. Lil based combo for a slayer fighter

[split wadi]

Set designed specifically for bossing but having weaker pvp stats could be cool

[summer elk]

u probly better then me

[vapid oyster]

depends, if your phys bonus is not positive, str is better. str also gives hp, it could depend on your action speed as well

[livid onyx]

I would love that, like the old blood stained blade used to add damage at the cost of taking damage.

[split wadi]

Slayer has seen better days. I used to despise them but now I respect them more than your average pdr fighter

[brave oriole]

I wont lie i stopped slayer fightering and now just sword master / dual wielder on a pdr fighter lmfao

[ivory aurora]

Okay, after 15 strength each point only boosts your physical damage by a whole 1%. 1 true physical damage is 1 unavoidable damage. So 1% of whatever your weapons damage is basically is never better than 1 true damage

[livid onyx]

Maybe, but if you have trouble fighting players stat for stat try doing rat/ dirty tactics with less gear. I like using invisibility + monsters. When the enemy is fighting 5 monsters + me it usually works in my favor

[split wadi]

Haha nice. Big respect for off meta builds

[vapid oyster]

true dmg is also only available on a few pieces right now, so just get it on your neck and wep and then get str and phys bonus on other stuff

[mellow fox]

.

[uncut raptor]

Thank you

[brave oriole]

It kinda goes crazy ngl but u sacrifice way too much for it. 15% act speed for free on ur mainhand falch is always nice tho. The one i ran was sword master weapon master dual wielder swift with adrenaline rush and 2nd wind, then you just built a low to mid budget kit with all hp and def since u didnt need to roll action speed on any of ur kit 🤣

But tbh u could prolly def master and just run cbow

Idk i hate using cbow id rather giggle and shit my pants at people with an survbow or windlass because i think its funny

[mystic heron]

guys i play fighter whats the best stats i should focus for more survivability or tankiness i went armor rating focused but lowk i think i should go back to vigor

[brave oriole]

Just do both bro

Full plate pdr is base like 52% which means each 1 point of vigor is worth at least 2 hp

[split wadi]

Imagine if they added a universal block button and dual wielding had a unique blocking animation. Could be really cool and a decent way to buff dual wielding

[quick ermine]

bro im taking a rope with troll pelt and nightmare batt kills me off the rope like what is this game so trash

[brave oriole]

So u can become utterly ridiculous if u use combos like full plate + taunt + 2nd wind to become effectively invincible for 8 seconds and most of the time the other guy yoloing u cant do shit

[brave oriole]

I think this game needs a cooldown based shove mechanic but thats just me being deranged

[mystic heron]

oh i see alr ty

i run the shield slam i play mainly defense counter attack based noticed shield is kinda underutilized

[brave oriole]

Try it in squires first to get a feel for it obvs dont just yolo 20k on a diabolical arena kit

[mystic heron]

yea def

[brave oriole]

Yea naw imo shield master buckler falch pdr fighter with taunt 2nd wind is super duper fun in squires rn

The falch headshots are BRUTAL with the added block action speed

[cursive canopy]

I've one tapped plenty of geared people with a windlass.

[agile tide]

Just kill the bat first lmao, hilarious death tho

[split wadi]

People have been asking for something like that for a while. I've personally been an advocate of some kind of extremely short ranged mini dash/dodge that had a cooldown heavily scaling with resourcefulness. Classes with naturally high resourcefulness could really benefit and it might help them box bigger, slower, stat monsters like barb but I think it might make sorc way more busted than it needs to be haha

[brave oriole]

Naw id prefer shoves that scale better for smaller weapons, based on either their impact or weap specific anims, with large 2handers having much clunkier pushes and small 1handers being much more robust. Itd help the poor rogues and bards not get sent to the shadow realm by felling axe barbs in every lobby i go to fs lol

[winged herald]

how is this game still so fucking bad

[thorny reef]

Did Chris really do it?

[brave oriole]

And itd make rogues way better at toxically isolating casters by pushing them in the corner and stealing their lunch money lmao

[split wadi]

There's definitely a lot of ways you can add a little depth to the game without turning it into mordhau. Not sure what the correct thing to add is but they've mentioned they are interested in adding ways for your average player to avoid damage

[brave oriole]

I wont lie if this game was more of a contemporary medieval slasher this game would have 0 players fr fr.

The fact its so mixed and the balance is so class counter and map knowledge based rather than skill/execution based, macro rather than micro, is what sets it apart from most of the extraction shooters out rn

[split wadi]

Mordhau burnt me out so fast. I had more fun being a bard in the game. Chivalry 2 was super duper fun but it really leaned into that more "chaotic pvp" arcadey aspect which i don't think is what DaD should be

[inland valve]

Does red name/blue name reset at wipe?

[brave oriole]

Naw bro i hard grinded m&b multi into chiv 1 into mordhau into chiv 2. I am a genre vet and im so glad that the game isnt made like any of those games. When they decide to add turncaps this game is dead as fuck

Do i think turncaps are impo? Yes. But also nobody lawnmower zwei barbs anymore

U never see people 360 in this game

[mortal salmon]

any one have an updated map of goblin caves? they change the game so much i can only find old maps

[split wadi]

Oh I'm not saying DaD should be like those games. I enjoy that DaD feels more chill to play than a lot of these other games (also it has sick magic and stuff). I love the fantasy, I love the fps, I love the silly (and deadly) random encounters with players. The biggest thing is that the game feels more tactical where good positioning and planning is one of the most important skills to have vs just having really good twitchy gameplay like a lot of shooters are like these days

[brave oriole]

Yeah naw ngl when i first started i was abusing knowlede from the genre to help catch me up but 90% of the skill muscle memory from dad is not relevant to the genre

[split wadi]

It's all about positioning and spacing with a some hitbox manipulation

[brave oriole]

My first few seshes i just cranked up mouse sensitivity and sent halberd right clicks flying at head level on my way through doors expecting it to magically work out

And so i have a few super early clips of me waterfalling and cucumber dragging people

[vapid oyster]

I love mordhau and chiv but hated swordai, none of the DaD clones feel good to play at all

[silver smelt]

can't load into a crypts

[brave oriole]

And them just eating that shit and mika vista'ing me to the stone age

🤣

Like u cant just walk in and start styling on people since u just get momentum diffed or gear diffed insta

[mystic heron]

swordai felt like wish.com chiv2 and mount n blade mixed combat 😂

and midnight walkers melee combat feels like bootleg chivarly 2

[vapid oyster]

also the respawn mechanic in swordai was so incredible stupid, DaD for babies

[mystic heron]

oh yeah for sure. its just a low quality feeling game i cant lie

[graceful storm]

I saw them in dungeonborne I just think there's better ways to diversify builds. I think for starters skipping gear entirely and giving classes more identity by every class getting a unique passive you dont have to equip in perk slots would be very cool

[fierce violet]

RELEASE THE NIGHTMARE MUMMY SCROLL QUESTS BEFORE THE SEMI SEMI WIPE!!!!

[split wadi]

Oh id love that. You could maybe have a separate pool of passives specifically for that. We even have a few good perks like slayer and demon armour that could slot in nicely into that role

[gusty birch]

Bro , where do we get "the scrool that is not suppose to be" ? 😺

[graceful storm]

I wish they would add some fun Easter eggs to the map too but all this is wishful thinking they literally dont even know how to change the stack size of arrows

[split wadi]

Add a little piece of cheese in the troll treasure room

[vague beacon]

for Cave Troll do you avoid attacks going to the right or left?

[graceful storm]

I think either one but I go to the right - also haven't done it in a while myself maybe a farmer knows better

[untold lily]

its easier for left faster to do the right side

[slim tulip]

the fuck u mean by "wish they add easter eggs to the maps" you don't know about the random rat friends that are hidden in all 3 maps?

[slim tulip]

or by "easter eggs" you mean something that will impact gameplay, so just something to make you "better" at the game.

[grave pendant]

is skeleton merchant worth it

[slim tulip]

Bro only consumes content made by youtubers and streamers, instead of playing the game him/her/it self and then comes here to complaint that the game lacks X or Y while never exploring the dungeons

[slim tulip]

the last quest is for a lobby table emote

[grave pendant]

so naw

[graceful storm]

I mean Easter eggs in the exact way it means in any other game its ever been used in. Just fun stuff or hidden rooms to find after you get all the clues or something like that

[tall girder]

tired having a red name. paying 1000 gold per upvote dm me

[warm furnace]

what are the dropchances for trollpelt in pve mode ?

[vagrant warren]

Don't forget it's the exact same cake emote from the 1 year. Except it has TWO candles on the cake.

They really are just running out of shit ideas. Killing the game before their court hearing.

[onyx iris]

Hi guys, is the game now playable or still bs ? (im noob tho but been playin a lot)

[untold lily]

yea cool emote

[untold lily]

y are u sooo mad

[sonic maple]

🧀

[brave oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/james-may-cheese-gif-12201822851797321204

[young thistle]

Someone mentioned that the game crashes for them in the dungeon, and when they re-enter, they can play that dungeon normally. However, after extracting the character, they end up with 0 gold????

[winged herald]

every fucking raid i play just sucks

this game just sucks

[brave oriole]

Crash out harder. Let the hate flow through you

[lean stag]

Hello

[brave oriole]

AHHH!!!

[lean stag]

I'm bored

[bleak ermine]

my friend @solar lynx is handsome, you should message him

[solar lynx]

i’m good

[brave oriole]

🤣

[lean stag]

Let's chat on my DM

[brave oriole]

Give me an sk or perish

Automaton

[sonic maple]

Did your name happen

[heady mural]

Clanker

[high dagger]

constant gear checking in normals, what a fun experience

[sonic maple]

He's outta your league

[strange hatch]

WOAH WOAH

[cursive scarab]

Anybody know how I can get my hands on a fake id?

Please dm me

[brave oriole]

How in the fuck does this keep happening

[cursive scarab]

I need it for some fun 😉

[brave oriole]

The bots go crazy ig

[viral gull]

i just spawn in and one of my teamate start attacking us for no reason i kill im now im ban..

[lyric creek]

no you dont

[lyric creek]

teach you to fight people over losing your squire kit

[loud topaz]

sorc was the downfall of dark and darker who agrees

[lyric creek]

warlock was

[loud topaz]

magic classes mickey

[glossy talon]

DRUID!!!

[mint junco]

is felidian worth buying for rouge/wiz

[loud topaz]

just found out sorc got more spells breakthorugh dont work if they got like 5 spells to counter me

[mint junco]

and maybe ranger/druid/warlock?

[mint junco]

lol no

i feel like they are fairly balanced

[loud topaz]

yes ever since they added in that class the game been trash

magic classes ruin arena

[mint junco]

OHH

sorry misread sorc was thinkin wizard

[loud topaz]

cant put move speed on my armor anymore im cooked

[mint junco]

yeas sorcs are pretty tought to play against

[loud topaz]

they were managable with high ms and breakthrough for fighter but now no i got no ms so i gotta use sprint and they got 30 spells that counter me and it seem like they dont even got cooldowns anymore

[lost tinsel]

return the slab

[glossy talon]

just use a bow

[brave oriole]

If i fart in the module and there's no rogues there to hear it, did i ever make a sound

[loud topaz]

god heard it

therefore yes

[silver smelt]

Who is god

[normal solar]

Ken Carson

[loud topaz]

god is was and always will be

[brave oriole]

Does god have a life after death or do u think he uses soulscraper

[eternal jacinth]

Yes

[loud topaz]

god is the life after death

[distant bane]

anyone having problems rubber banding today?

[silver smelt]

God is stinky stick

[flint raven]

why am i getting failed to connect when loading up with blacksmith launcher? i have tried uninstall and fresh install reset router etc. halp me

i want to play ded game plz

[void swift]

then you schould go meet him sooner then us

[agile tide]

bobby hill is proselytizing me, help

[loud topaz]

its not a conversion its a realization the gaining of knowledge and wisdom of the most high no rank can or ever will surpass him as king of the universe

[sharp tide]

can u BRING BACK - 25 GS, it's not playable to play against people who have more move speed, more hp, more damage than you. That's FUCKING NONSENSE U DESTROYING THIS GAME

[agile tide]

There's so much loot just put some on

[ivory aurora]

nice bait

[mint junco]

or suffer my curse

[barren ingot]

Boooooooring

[mint junco]

lol its pve but yet people can grief and knock people off elevators at the end

classic dark and dogdookie

thats cool and the revamp of the maps is so bad...... should be solo duo trio on all maps

[sharp tide]

sure i'll fight some legendary gears with green one

[mint junco]

yep i second that so fun playing norms with 5k kit stacks

[sharp tide]

sry to have a life i don't have time to farm for gears

[barren ingot]

unlucky

[mint junco]

lul fighter barb

how is warlock nowadays?

do people still do classic curse or melee lock?

also how is hydra/lifedrain?

[dry sigil]

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE THE SCROLL OF FORGOTTEN KNOWLEDGE IS FOR THE NIGHTMARE MUMMY QUEST?

[graceful storm]

check ur bhole

[sharp tide]

useless comment

[brave oriole]

🫵 👉 🛏️ 👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨 🛌

[fallen iris]

i just dont understand how druid gets the mobility/healing/tankyness/silence/bleed/ghost when hit

why does druid have every single good thing every class has all in one?

[fallow glade]

hi nerds what is this server about

i was looking for a gore section

but i am in some sort of game server 😂

[sonic maple]

It's on its way

[fallow glade]

anyway any ps5 players here

[smoky jetty]

Watch out at wyverns. People love to grief there. Seen plenty in pve doing their ape shiit

[smoky jetty]

Nerds lmfao? Says the Kpop Weeb

[fervent anvil]

that was 100% a bot

[toxic charm]

Game so boring rn

[maiden crypt]

Nerf wizard

[frosty cove]

Is there a reason arena is closed during the week?

[maiden crypt]

Nerf wizard

[fervent anvil]

cause its not a weekday event. its a weekend event

[mint junco]

gotcha thanks for the info

[azure vapor]

dark and darker became so unplayable last months that i started developing games myself

[tropic bear]

great another vibe dev

[azure vapor]

i'm really enjoying it

[buoyant cipher]

Idk how they delay the season even further and still think people are going to come back...they've literally just murdered this game

[placid shale]

i'm a skill issue 150 hours i still die in hr to mobs

[gentle hare]

What a fun game

[ivory aurora]

The vision

[indigo wagon]

you ruined this game when u removed solo castle i hope you understand that @sdf

nothing you do will ever make me forgive your stupitidty

[buoyant cipher]

@indigo wagon game was ruined long before that lol

[long dagger]

sdf stop ruining the game you arent tarkov, add the names back

[indigo wagon]

That was the nail in the coffin for me

[viral gull]

Is this the channel to shit on dev and games?

[agile quail]

Genunine question: What's the point of wasting time making bosses when theyre going to be unfightable 60% of the time because of a BR circle?

[viral gull]

its just to give the other player time to come and r*** you.

[agile quail]

but it doesn't happen most of the time because the circle makes the boss unfightable

There was more pvp in the boss room before the BR circle got brought back

[hollow mountain]

The vision

Never question the vision

[viral gull]

sorry i misunderstand i dont speak english

[hollow mountain]

La vision caliss

[left torrent]

Are there permanent rewards for Huntress and Nightmare Mummy questlines? Like emotes or something

[old terrace]

When is wipe and should I even bother coming back

[hollow mountain]

Mini wipe soon

It's a semi wipe but smaller

[livid onyx]

I fight troll in the swarm, it's safer that way.

[hollow mountain]

Can't wait for the micro wipe

[livid onyx]

Come back in 50 days

[void kestrel]

making bosses? They're bought from the asset store lmao

[livid onyx]

Unreal

[hollow mountain]

But the monster AI guy gotta test it

He's the only guy doing it

If he leaves it's over

[earnest current]

game dead with so many n.oo.b update from ironmace , never see a season with no one play and no one want to stream this game and many big streamer or player leave this game all season

[buoyant cipher]

And what's with the double semi wipe... why didn't we just have a nother season if they're going to keep pushing the water map back

[novel echo]

Nein

[void kestrel]

semi semi semi semi semi semi semi semi

[south copper]

semi chub

ive been playing alot lately and having a good time

[void kestrel]

never seen a more shameful embarassment in all my years of gaming than the semi-semi-semi wipe

[prisma turret]

wipe the game already so i can play dammit

[ionic heart]

Will my goblin friend bring back my brought in game gear if I die to freezing

[flat coyote]

Servers are down

[worn owl]

Your game blows fat cock, hopefully nexon shuts it down for good.

[glacial furnace]

is rondel still better than rapier on bard?

[crude ocean]

Where did the "Select Region" button go? OO

[ivory aurora]

gone, reduced to atoms

[crude ocean]

yeah very funny..... but you can´t play without selection a region

[ivory aurora]

I wish i was joking, your region is whichever has the lowest ping from what I can gather. i think you can use a vpn to help but i dont think it always works

[crude ocean]

if i want to start a game it says "select a region"

[flat coyote]

Failed to connect to the server. Quit the game

[ivory aurora]

idk maybe someone else knows how to help you... if there is any fix ofc

[gentle hare]

Is GC just juiced people teaming up to kill solo timmies?

Great game. I’m sure the player base will grow.

[sour hornet]

That’s my bad, sorry

[obsidian shell]

reinstall

[flat coyote]

have didint fix nothing

[obsidian shell]

try again, I had the same issue, had to reinstall thrice, cuz game is dumb 👍

[dapper berry]

yo JADEA if you reading this you a RAT 😂

[bleak yoke]

why am i not getting highroller ap

[ivory aurora]

I don't know, hopefully sdf didnt kill hr again

[bleak yoke]

my friend was getting it but now hes not but ive played several hr games and have not gat any

[ivory aurora]

🍝

[livid onyx]

Not for me, i recruit cave troll to do my bidding

[livid onyx]

the season ended, a new one wont start for another 50 days

[humble wave]

servers down?

[bleak yoke]

but we were getting some eailer today

we both extracted but only he got ap

[boreal crown]

i forgot how to seperate potions 😭

[humble wave]

cant get ingame, game down?

[errant lintel]

anyone seen the bug where you die in red lobby

the lobby in between floors

[humble wave]

solos gone again? xd

[ivory aurora]

yep, still just trios with extra steps and trios

[coral thistle]

gob caves only

[humble wave]

i went goblin caves and was trios, got 2 random teamates...

all maps says trios only???

[ember meadow]

Why is high roller such a joke

[humble wave]

my shit must be bugged, all dungeones is trios and i cant find game unless i wait 5+ mins

[idle whale]

QuirkyLoudMouth And SchleemtMaxxing both teaming on solos

[coral thistle]

PvE?? It is solos in Norms and HR where the actual game is played

[coral thistle]

For Normal and High Roller :

Gob Caves = Solos

Ice Cavern = Duos

Ruins = Trios

Adventure is always trios

[humble wave]

fuck me have ben drinking an was on pve sry guys

[coral thistle]

lmao no worries

[humble wave]

hahahah

[simple cosmos]

Is the game dead

[ivory aurora]

dead and deader

[azure sedge]

Yes, go back to sleep

[slim tulip]

the BR circle is only for HR, not everyone plays HR.

[slow salmon]

When is SDF going to learn how to fight rogues so he stops giving caster classes more vigor than a rogue?

[indigo wagon]

I’m trying to teach my buddy how to pvp and we are fighting players with unique gear in norms LMAOOO you are so lost it hurts my stomach to the point I could puke @glad thunder BRING BACK GEAR SCORE LOBBIES CMON BROTHA

we as a community are going to have to remove this guy from any role of importance in this game his incompetence is stunning to witness

Why can I not take my friend into a lobby and fight other players in squire lmaooo why?

We want 0-24 and 24-224 lobbies back. It’s very simple. 95% of the community wants gear brackets back so why are you ignoring us man? @glad thunder your vision has killed this game it’s time to start listening to the people putting food on your table man

[buoyant cipher]

@indigo wagon most of us don't want that

[indigo wagon]

You must be one of these noobs who can’t compete with equal gear as other players. You are the 5% buddy I hate to tell you

we all want gear brackets back

[buoyant cipher]

224 was a joke too we were better off with the rare separation rather than gearscore

[hardy stump]

2 months ago went away, its automatic now

[indigo wagon]

nah you just have 0 skill if you don’t like fighting people with the same gear as you it’s really that simple

[buoyant cipher]

Most of us really don't and nah I'm the one that's OK fighting against people with gear it makes it easier to farm kits

[heady meadow]

is server dying for anyone else

[buoyant cipher]

I run squire 90% of the time I'm just ok with fighting people in purples

[indigo wagon]

No it does not lmaoo if you’re playing norms you are not farming any kits bro if you’re playing norms you are a timmy

you’re playing norms brotha you’re a casual

keep farming new players if it makes you feel better boss

[heady meadow]

super powered timmy

[buoyant cipher]

Rofl norms is way more fun to stomp people with gear idk what you're on about

[indigo wagon]

yeah because you’re not good at the game so you need to pick on new players. It’s ok bro we get it

i prob bullied you out of HR solos so you gotta take your anger out on Timmy’s in norms LOL

[buoyant cipher]

Ipick on new players stacked with purples whule I'm in squire? You're really not the brightest and hr is dumb af with the swarm rn

[indigo wagon]

causal spotted ^

[buoyant cipher]

Bullies me in hr? But you're terrified of gear listen to yourself

[indigo wagon]

“Hr is dumb” hahahahhaha aka I can’t kill players who are actually good

brotha I am trying to teach a player with 100 hours how to pvp and he is getting gear diff’d. How hard is that for you to understand

[buoyant cipher]

Yeah hr is stupid with the circle

[indigo wagon]

“I can’t rotate out of a painfully slow zone in time” hahahaha

so let me go bully Timmy’s in normals hahahaha

Enjoy it while it last tho gear brackets will 100% be back

no gear brackets ruins all crafted gear and damn near the whole game

[buoyant cipher]

It's an extraction game listen to yourself go play literally any other extraction game and you'll see there is no brackets it's the dumbest thing to implement let people run what they find like any other game

[indigo wagon]

You can run whatever you want. Just have more than 224 gear score. Then you can go fight teams in full unique gear in squire since you’re so good

you’re wrong and it’s ok man. Realizing your wrong and admitting your mistakes is a part of growing up

no gear brackets is terribly not now player friendly

It’s part of the reason nobody is playing. No new players want to get gear diff’d. Literally nobody

[buoyant cipher]

Nobody is playing because they all left during the semi wipe as soon as they took random rolls out

No ones coming back till the new season

[lavish tendon]

I dont think anyone is coming back for swimming map but cope I know i did for awhile that copium hits hard

[buoyant cipher]

Oh you're probably right they trashed the game pretty hard I'm sure people will come back to try it but if the game isint in a good state by then it's over

[barren ingot]

Wipe and semi semi wiper more like it

[acoustic sail]

are they gonna put solo and duo back ?

[wild narwhal]

^^^

i was wondering this too, i want to get back into the game with my duo but only trios is the dumbest thing they've ever done

[halcyon quiver]

There is duo, its just frost caverns only. So its kinda semi semi

[wild narwhal]

wait so it doesnt change maps like it used to?

what are the devs on lmao

[halcyon quiver]

Vision trip i gathered. But to answer your question, each map is different party size atm. Goblin caves is solo only, frost cave is duo and castle is trios

[tough forge]

I LOVE BEING FORCED TO PLAY TRIOS TO GET QUEST DONE

SOMETIMES A NOOB JUST WANTS TO PLAY SOLO ON RUINS

[wild narwhal]

so odd man, how long has it been like this? hopefully they just revert it like they do to every update

literally just make it so u can choose what party size on any map no? was anyone against that in the first place? why change it?

[random spade]

think the reasoning was population split. instead of 3 lobbies you now have 9, and it continues to increase with every map you add

[halcyon quiver]

I think like last two weeks or so? Obviously most players disklike it, same with no gear brackets so normals are full of people with lege/unique gear.
Best guess is they did it because of the declining playerbase to reduce amount of different queues and empty lobbies, but pretty much as any change they do/revert it backfired again

[wild narwhal]

yeah but could they not just do it how it used to be where its what it is now solo duo trio for each map but it rotates to different maps not just forcing you to perma play frost cavern if u want to duo

is there some sort of dev blog where he explains these awful changes?

[random spade]

yeah i think that was the better solution overall

[wild narwhal]

id love to see his reasoning behind all this

[halcyon quiver]

I think any semblance of reason has left a long time ago

[merry gyro]

Does anyone get terrible stutters now? I havnt played in a while and recently wiped my pc and reinstalled it, now when I load in about 30 seconds in I get a FPS drop and then any time I’m hitting mobs or players I get stutters that just freeze my game for maybe 1-2 seconds

Tried a few things to fix it, so far nothing is working

[muted frigate]

need alil help how come i got 313 ms in lobby but in game its 299 ?

[buoyant cipher]

anyone else have the issue where they cant type in game?

says party chat diasabled?

[placid lintel]

Took break for a while while moving. Is move speed stats gone from weapons now?

[sand sedge]

Yeah I think so

[void kestrel]

you're probably holding something that lowers movespeed

[buoyant cipher]

cannot send message party chat currently disabled?

does anybody know wtf this is?

[brave wing]

Guys hi, when is new season (date)

[winter tinsel]

Click the little button on bottom left of the chat box

[neon geyser]

soooo SDF is still in charge ? and theres only like 5k players now? annnddd weve been asking for stuff to better the game? annndd SDF keeps shooting the game in the foot? got it i was wondering why i deleted the game for 8 months XD

[buoyant cipher]

my fuck dude thanks didnt even realize that was a button thank you @winter tinsel i was sitting here thinking i got chat banned or something

[sand sedge]

It’s end of wipe there’s always sub 10k players every end of wipe

[sand sedge]

September 26 for season 7

[neon geyser]

ohh ok i didnt know what patt of wipe it was i re downloaded it yesterday again, however it does seem like its getting worse

[sand sedge]

Up to you, there is a one month long mini season from August 26th to September 26th

And then season 7 drops September 26th

There will be a new HR Leaderboard with rewards, along with SSF for two weeks

[neon geyser]

whats going on with the pve modes and squad map requirements ? like we cant trio on ice anymore ?

[sand sedge]

For the mini season (or semi-semi wipe)

[sand sedge]

Pve likely untouched, no word on what’s happening with queue sizes.
For now in PvP modes:
goblin caves solo
Ice mountain duo
Ruins of the forgotten castle trio
With PvE being trio for all maps

[neon geyser]

i had a good ice trio thats going to throw everything off for me personally

i got stalker 2 yesterday so here we go

[sand sedge]

Love stalker series

[neon geyser]

never played them just seen a lot about 2

[sand sedge]

Amazing games, the OG games to me are better than Stalker 2

There’s also a free modded version called Stalker GAMMA over 120gb large but probably one of the best mod packs gaming has to offer

All for no price either it’s crazy

[neon geyser]

damn

[sand sedge]

Checkout some yt videos on it

[neon geyser]

is stalker 2 multiplayer

[sand sedge]

Not yet but a update will come out that introduces it apparently

[winter tinsel]

Ye it’s weird how they have it set up

[jade delta]

didnt play for months, then finally decided to play and farmed 1 or 2 hours for 3 days to buy some kit
first dungeon and i get giga gear diffed

[winter tinsel]

Losing gear is part of the game

Also it’s kinda IM’s fault for not putting gear cap on norms

[silver smelt]

Pve mode will be removed

[raw flax]

do troll pelts have same drop chance across pve normals and hr?

[sand sedge]

No it isnt

[cold spire]

another clanker

[near stump]

I have played every day and never have seen over 6k this sseason

[warm rune]

I have a semi semi, and I wipe

[hearty lava]

How do I have a tk penalty when I have been solo all day wtf?

[warm rune]

unpopular opinion, if the balance changes are good I think the semi semi wipe will have a good feel to it. 2 weeks SSF gameplay, 2 weeks TP gameplay. Artifacts at the end of questline. Questlines released instantly.

hits every spot, and gets rid of min maxed insane kits or op niche kits like lad stacking, 21true, etc. SKs and GKs would prob drop in price too since for the most part u are guaranteed a lot of op equipment

[hearty lava]

yes logging in to a 10m "you can't play" screen when I didn't even kill a teammate is peak game design this gamehas a bright future

[tribal zodiac]

It will be good only cuz its going to be SSF.
Right after market will be open, then it going to be again buy,die,buy,die experience

[karmic granite]

We need gamertags back for friends it’s not fun when you don’t know who’s who

[warm rune]

both have their ups and downs. SSF directly benefits nolifes more than it does anyone else. TP helps out if u just wanna hop on and run it down with decent setups.

buy die experience is just directly based on how good you are like 7/10 times. SSF is based on luck yes but more importantly playtime

but imo the half half and month long wipe with guaranteed artifacts and uniques from quest lines is def the right direction. That’s like mostly the reason SSF is awful before because luck determines how geared u are more than anything else, so a set reward based on playtime is a good change in SSF environment

[stark rapids]

Hi! I saw a "fan art" posted this morning saying this game was successful "in the first place". I was not here "in the first place", and I wonder what was those things that made it successful at this ancient time. (A bot told me images only are allowed in fan art channel so I post my question here. Does anyone know what was those attributes that made it successful once apon a time?

cc @slate crane who posted the fan art

[tribal zodiac]

How about..
Make Normals SSF, possible drop everything (same as u can entry with everything).
No Swarm,but Fog of war?
Less AP points

HR = Swarm(Keep swarm for swarm enjoyers), higher chances to drop, noSSF entry, more AP points.

[ebon anchor]

fog of war and swarm are too much for pve players like me

[tribal zodiac]

swarm sucks, Fog of war is good.

And people were satisfied with FoW, only mad ppl been cuz of Room finiding quests.

[warm rune]

Hop on YouTube there are some good videos explaining its success and its current downfalls.

[warm rune]

honestly I’m fine with any game change, my main reason and enjoyment why I play this game is to craft and run god builds. As long as I can do that then idc lol

[ebon anchor]

I like to fight bosses
fog of war is not too bad but its a pain to search for every room in HR

[warm rune]

yea a lot of systems definitely weren’t thought out well enough

[ebon anchor]

you can even possibly missed out the boss room because it was at some corner

[tribal zodiac]

FoW makes ppl search / Crawl for desired rooms.
also it protects from nonstop 3rd party at bossing,cuz it takes time before you reach/find boss room.

only cons is for ppl who rushing straight boss

[warm rune]

did u play during fog of war?

[tribal zodiac]

yes and I enjoyed it.

[ebon anchor]

might as well increase the timer? pve ppl like me don't like being constraint by the timer and swarm

[tribal zodiac]

As I said, people were mad only becuase they were looking for Quest rooms.
All other aspects were totally ok.
And if someone tells me: oh i cant find boss..
my answer is: bro u have to deserve it.

[long quest]

semi-semi-semi wipe next month?

[tribal zodiac]

Swarm is in my opinion overall problem.
Im kinda not fine with that it force ppl to move, not enjoy whole dungeon.. but its way too agresive.
If its just vision effect, why not. like layers of circles.

• if you are in 1st layer 25% vision off, 2nd 50% vision off etc. +darkeset with damage.

[humble badge]

They could make lights go out, out of zone.
Can’t light them up again

[ebon anchor]

still this is a game
it shouldn't be too much time consuming to play it. Making the boss room harder to find means you may have to find it again. Especially with the second floor of Crypt when ur trying to focus on Lich only or Warlord only HR hunt

[tribal zodiac]

I fully understand Circle if its some Last man standing BR, arena mode. then im absolutly fine with circle.
but not at fine at mode, where is main point crawling around dungeon and so.
At the same time they need to change way of go out from dungeon. not just open doors to jump in, but like opening like Ruins have thoose faaling bridge mechanism, so it takes time before activate.

[warm rune]

In my experience it encouraged third partying more

[severe coyote]

Regardless of how the play is going, winning or losing, farming a boss, also loading into raids late, never do I see the circle and think "this improves my enjoyment of the game"

Not to mention increasing the time at which you can load into the raid so the lobbies feel more "full" at the cost of the player experience is pretty lame. Considering the reason the player counts are down is from sdf making decisions at odds with player data and his own numbers.

Hilariously when I play HR most the players I run into are squire kits, then I run into all the BiS kit teams in norms. That should tell you how players feel about the circle.

[tribal zodiac]

I run HR too in squire.(Like you can get good gear from one cleaned module, if you are lucky) Im not going to bring gear into lobby with randoms or die forced to run somewhere. And also as Rogue (I mostly log solo to all maps), i kinda hate when timer damage, swarm damage cancels my hide and so on.
Like even the mobs are too strong with current multipliers, so its darksouls for me. (I dont hate it directly, its ok i enjoy it, but at the same time i cant imagine go like this with randoms with no voice and so on)

[gusty sierra]

why cant report tks no more? they dont show in the karma tab wtf

[winter tinsel]

As long as boss room is somewhat center, idt anyone cares that much about FoW. It was only a pain in the ass when the boss module was in a random ass corner of the map

[deft cargo]

anyone else having problem with server lag? can't dodge for shit and everyone hitting everyone from 200 miles away

[tribal zodiac]

Game should be about random encounters, not straight to point, straight out gameplay.

ad: I understand to pvp players and their frustrations about pvp hunting etc.
but that would solve perma open arena.

[winter tinsel]

Thing is for long time veterans, not being able to find something you’re looking for means you’re kinda just wandering around aimlessly. It feels like wasting time

[tribal zodiac]

Then veterans should remind themself why they started and what was most fun.

[winter tinsel]

I think boss being somewhat central is a good thing even with FoW. New players quickly learn the contested POI and can avoid it or join in. Veterans can do what they want without wasting time. Everyone is happy

Currently IC and GC would work rather well with FoW. Crypt not so much

[tribal zodiac]

IIts same like veterans running in normals with artifacts, hunting new players.

FoW is all around problem solver.

[livid onyx]

Fog is definitely better at slowing down overall progress

Which is a bigger hindrance to veterans over new players

[winter tinsel]

That’s a problem with IM tho. Only reason artifacts and uniques are in norms are bc of the rules. The healthiest state HR was ever in was when ppl were forced to use their gear there instead of having the option to roll Timmys in norms

[tribal zodiac]

Thats why Im calling out this:

• Make Normals SSF, possible drop everything (same as u can entry with everything).
• No Swarm,but Fog of war?
• Less AP points

[livid onyx]

I preferred the 0-224 gearscore for high roller xD cuz I like going bard in HR in base kit and power farming troll

My issue with heavy gear in normals is the rat style players all got shafted multiple times by patches and rule changes, teaming was the most effective strategy to take down juiced players during the playtests and the beginning of EA

If you know you're base kit and see "life after death" in the kill feed, you'd want to team up with any other base kit player you could to take them down.

[lyric valve]

Add map rotation

[tribal zodiac]

if Normals or some mode was SSF, then gear doesnt matter. you gonna have to kill that huge person and his items are yours..

Sadly I dont think devs are going to be able make "found by" from pvp stolen items.

maybe if Market items. will get some mark as "bought"

[livid onyx]

I do wish we get SSF normals, maybe change vendor purchased items to "merchant" so that's allowed in normals as well

[graceful storm]

SSF long term means they won't sell as many market slots on the season pass so yeah they kinda ruined ssf when they did that

I wish they would still do it I love ssf

[livid onyx]

Crafting will be more sought after if its SSF as well

[tribal zodiac]

Market should mark items. once its placed on market, then you cant use it at normals.

[visual current]

then that market is only a high roller market cause you can't use the items in norms?

[tribal zodiac]

yes

[livid onyx]

If it's SSF you won't be able to use an item that's not minted with your name in normals

[livid onyx]

Not entirely, you can still buy crafting items for normals self crafted gear

[visual current]

i lik the iron man where you use only items from vendors and what i craft or gamble on or loot myself.

[visual current]

that would make it a bit more enticing but i'm not sold on that idea myself

[livid onyx]

Yeah I'd prefer its solo self found crafted and stuff you purchased from vendors for normals, anything bought from the market needs to be used in HR.

I think it'd probably need to be 3 queues in total, removing adventure mode and adding solo self found/Ironman queue, unrestricted normals queue and high roller.

[visual current]

i actively play but have not qued a high roller i've just been mostly pve enjoying the questing. my perspective may be skewed. my pvp has only been squire to looted

[livid onyx]

I mainly play squire gear bard in HR, it's a lot of fun playing at a clear disadvantage and still making thousands of gold. I just enjoy not using a lot of gear

[visual current]

what i've liked about adventure mode is i've been able to learn boss fights to make the maps worth going int pvp tho. maybe we can get a sand box version where ppl can arena bosses with what ever kit they want

[livid onyx]

I got a 10k gold kit rogue killed by cave troll the other day, im still riding that dopamine

[livid onyx]

Yeah the only issue with adventure mode is the farmers, going into goblin caves there's people constantly farming the cave troll for its expensive items. Maybe make adventure mode loot untradable to players

There was a rogue farming troll with a deathbloom the other day xD

[visual current]

that makes questing a bit more difficult..not impossible but harder for a casual i'd say.

[livid onyx]

You can still find all the quest items in adventure mode, you just can't trade the items you find, instead you have to vendor them.

[visual current]

thats me io've had both bosses down by the like 7/8 mins

[livid onyx]

Yeah I take HR troll down in 1.5 minutes on my squire bard

[visual current]

oh yuuh that would seem fair

[livid onyx]

I like adventure mode, my only issue is the people who farm it for gold, dilute the experience for newer players just trying to learn and get some gold

[visual current]

my rogue kit is the highest i've got my luck on a kit

i'm not gready with the gold and let anyone there try it before me

[livid onyx]

Same I only mess with players who I know are in obviously expensive kits

[visual current]

unless i'm crafing something for a kit that needs gold....i'm talking pve explicitly

i didn't realize for a few days after i learned the troll fight that meh i should give other ppl the chance to get it

[storm helm]

when can we get capped pvp back im tired of trying to learn and fighting high roller kits

[visual current]

btw i've killed the trolll for days and days never seen the troll club...i need it for the quest.

[livid onyx]

Id prefer solo self found normals, the risk of needing to farm 3-5 hours of gear to get back to pub stomp levels sounds a lot better than min max gear caps.

[storm helm]

goblin cave normals is just a gear fest

[livid onyx]

If you die in a solo self found kit in normals you gotta start from ground zero, instead of rn where you can buy a kit in 3 minutes

[storm helm]

last 3 game was killed by full gold kits

[visual current]

quick downside, probably small but that would lead to gear fear imho

[storm helm]

no point in me buying gear if im learning how to pvp

[livid onyx]

I have a solution to that as well, add the goblin recovery system back into the game but for minted gear only

At 2x the scrap cost

[storm helm]

kinda sounds like bro just likes picking on white kits

[livid onyx]

Ssf Legendary chest pieces are 240 gold to buy back, ECT

[livid onyx]

I mainly play squire bard in high roller for my income

[visual current]

also maybe have a bounty option to where the player gets gold for your kill and you can pay gold to get your kit back? i may be stoned that might be a wierd idea tho

[livid onyx]

I like a challenge

[livid onyx]

I wanted a bounty system added to the friends list, so anyone on your friends list can take a bounty for you for someone who killed you. I think it'd be a funny gold sink with community engagement

Taxed at like 25% so 1000 gold is a 750 payout or something

[visual current]

i like that system however man the streamers would hate it.

[livid onyx]

If it was only for normals I think it wouldn't be too bad, many streamers terrorize timmies in normals with no empathy

[hushed hazel]

stuck in the loading screen while going to hell, can i restart the game?

[visual current]

could you imagine the amount of stream sniping reports that would generate

[visual current]

so i'm not tech just a guy i for quit the game and reload....then scramble to gtfo

[livid onyx]

There's no rule against putting a 750 gold bounties on someone who killed you, streamers have notoriety regardless of this system. At the very least this would encourage them to play HR to farm player kills.

[hushed hazel]

nice, i spawned in lobby with my gear on

[wraith stag]

W8, ppl use pve mode to farm gold? But the loot is so meme

[tribal zodiac]

well, you can kill spectral in 1 minute, then u go treasure - 1k gold and repeat

[livid onyx]

Not if you farm the right stuff, cave troll drops a pelt 15% of the time worth 4k+ usually

Ive seen full unique gear players farming PvE mode troll

[mellow lance]

pve cave pelt has 15% ?

[livid onyx]

Rogues with deathbloom ect

[mellow lance]

i thought it was way lower

[sand sedge]

seen the same thing, very cringe

[livid onyx]

I'm pretty sure it's the same rate

[sand sedge]

less

[livid onyx]

I usually get one every 5-7 troll kills in adventure mode

I check for the 250 gold rock and leave, I don't hit pile

[mellow lance]

well if its profitable to farm in pve this game has no future no wonder its dead

[livid onyx]

That's why I want PvE mode to be untradable loot

[sand sedge]

its much easier to get in pvp imo at least from my experience

[mellow lance]

it shouldnt be close at all

[sand sedge]

less competition if you know how to fight

[sand sedge]

it isnt, you get it more on average from pvp mode

[mellow lance]

you should feel the pain of low % grinding it in pve for the risk/reward to matter

[livid onyx]

If you have data to support that over 1000games if farming I'd love to see it

[sand sedge]

do you have the data?

i'd rather that than taking devs word

not sarcasm, genuinely

[mellow lance]

what word have the devs given all ive ever heard is its less

.001% difference less still means less

[storm helm]

is there any cleric players i here that can point me to a good normal kit

[sand sedge]

squire gear?

[storm helm]

im playing sheild and morning star with judge and smite

[storm helm]

squire yea and regular

[livid onyx]

I've only killed it a few hundred times on PvE this preseason so no I dont have enough data, but I definitely get pelts and spectral fabrics more than 10% of the time.

I wish the wiki guys were still chugging away with testing and confirming drop rates. It feels barren checking the wiki nowadays

[vast kayak]

I probably play more PvE mode than anyone in this game, and I don't think there are as many farmers as you think there are. I am playing it to speed level for the character level achievements. I do see people, even teams that clearly know how to do crypts bosses, but not a ton of farming.

[sand sedge]

i'd replace judgement for divine protection, and run topfhem, champion armor, heavy gaunlets, plate pants, and rugged boots which gives good vigor and pdr, divine protection and smite when you get into engagements

[sand sedge]

i see, if you get any updates please let me know i'd like to look into it myself. been busy doing artifact price tracking data i never bothered to touch boss drops

[livid onyx]

I've seen a couple players, a few bards decked out in uniques, a rogue with deathblooms

[sand sedge]

i have seen some hard crazy kit farmers

[mellow lance]

if new players arent the primary playerbase in pve mode it should just be deleted or made fully seperate

[vast kayak]

i'm running a viola on bard and a pulv on cleric, it just makes it faster to kill

[sand sedge]

and i see why, the profit vs what the cost is. is staggering