game-discussion

[chilly mulch]

In an extraction looter game it makes zero sense to have MMR unless the corresponding loot is higher in higher rated lobbies. Otherwise you'd have people purposefully tank their MMR so that they don't have to fight better people.

There always has to be incentive, and if the incentive isn't good enough, people won't engage. But if the incentive is good, it creates community frustration on "the rich get richer."

[bitter heart]

lets first worry about actual solos and duos before anything

[chilly mulch]

Easy solution, remove handshake, re-add the game modes.

Handshake at its best should be a way to make friends in dungeon. Literally a friend request. Not "We can party mid-raid and see each other's HP and share XP and go deeper together" type shit.

[bitter heart]

ong

[strange creek]

No mmr, new players are chain rekt.
No new players.
No money
No game.

[gusty sierra]

Pretty much.

[bitter heart]

tne fact tney havent changed the handshake thing yet makes me lose all hope for what was once my favorite game

[chilly mulch]

Getting demolished as a new player is literally part of the experience. But this is why PvE was added. To have an introductory gamemode for new players to learn PvE in a friendly environment without PvP.

But yeah MMR in an extraction "shooter" without rewards for getting better would make no sense and simultaneously make lower skill players frustrated at stagnation and not being able to get better rewards / gear as a result.

what kinda game even is Dark and Darker, a FPF game?

[strange creek]

Hunt showdown work for years with a real fan base

[chilly mulch]

Hunt doesn't have the same level of risk bro

[strange creek]

Ah?

[chilly mulch]

What goes into a good Hunt kit versus what goes into a good Dark and Darker kit, or a good Tarkov kit, is absolutely incomparable.

[strange creek]

As new player, i can't play and learn without mmr

OFC old players like the actual system
It's fun to rekt Noobs

But it litteraly kill the game

But np, if that's the goal to chase Noobs like rabbit and disgust possible future clients

[chilly mulch]

Well elaborate on what you want out of MMR.

More rewards for better players? What's the incentive to fight non-Timmies?

[winter tinsel]

MMR would be logical, but how does one define success? If I try to learn Frost Wyvern and die 50 times in a row, am I now a noob rank? I feel like this would be harder to implement than it seems

[strange creek]

Mmr mean fight against players of m'y "unskill lvl"

[chilly mulch]

Incredibly. Also, the player pop just doesn't justify having SBMM.

[winter tinsel]

I just feel like player stats don't really reflect skill in this game so it would be hard to do right

[strange creek]

Be able to learn slowly, get fun and be able to lvl up my skill and HAVING THE TIME TO UNDERSTAND

[chilly mulch]

Okay don't misunderstand, I get WHY you want MMR, but how are you going to make it so that people want to engage with high MMR when the only reward is dying more often to equally skilled players?

[strange creek]

Idk, having fun?

[winter tinsel]

they had noob lobbies at one point, but it was either too empty or ppl would abuse it by creating new accounts to smurf. Idk, maybe there's another good way to do it tho

[strange creek]

There is tons of way to avoid toxic attitude like smurfs.

[chilly mulch]

Okay, like what?

[strange creek]

Mmr accessible to paid players?

[chilly mulch]

That doesn't address smurfing at all.

[winter tinsel]

you may as well just split ppl up by hours then cuz KDA and WL is a bad metric in a game like this imo

[graceful storm]

I think if they just had a 10 minute tutorial level where you extracted with some prompts like midnight walkers even just that would get people going faster than just figuring everything out

[strange creek]

Well, guys i'm 20+ hours.

Actually my pvp expérience is just my 2 mates being rekt second 1 by 3 guys rushing on the room

And after i rush and try to escape.

No fun
No learn
No skill gain
Nothing understand

I just want uninstall this boring game

And looot of players have the same expérience according to steam reviews

[chilly mulch]

Then uninstall and stop bothering people with takes that have zero reasoning mate

[strange creek]

Ok.

[winter tinsel]

steam reviews were doing okayish until devs decided to remove solos/duos but ye, this is something IM is aware of. They mentioned that a tutorial map was being worked on awhile back

[strange creek]

To all people loving this "huge potential game", thanks to this bro i uninstall and gave one more bad review to this dead game 🙂

Thx to help the game to die.

[winter tinsel]

aw shit, here we go again

[lament vale]

Solos but it's actually trios is crazy

[chilly mulch]

nobody cares

[wet barn]

@strange creek cope man

[ripe heart]

how sad

[bright latch]

Who made you this upset? Calm down buddy.

[chilly mulch]

"Guys nobody is connecting with my rants about MMR 😭 I die to goblins in norms still 😭 PvP sucks I'm not good enough, I should be given easy fights 😭"

[ripe heart]

i wonder what the guy expected by coming here to cry about the game

[chilly mulch]

Scroll up. I asked for the guy to just explain how he wants MMR to work in the game. Not once did he explain outside of "it would be fair"

[wet barn]

@chilly mulch bro how goblins die in like 3 hits

[radiant pumice]

where is duo, wtf happened to this game since ive been gone

[chilly mulch]

bro ain't spacing

[bright latch]

Still man seems like you need to work on your emotions. I do agree with ya

[winter tinsel]

how can you hit a gobbo when he hit you once and you die? (i am new rogue with 5 vigor)

[strange creek]

I never die in pve it's easy

[wet barn]

Don't play with out being kited

[chilly mulch]

💀

[ripe heart]

dodge ?

[winter tinsel]

that's too hard

[wet barn]

Skill issue

[graceful storm]

The new ice caves is sick

[chilly mulch]

Me when a guy refuses to engage with any points HE made himself, so I tell him to just un install after he's been doing nothing but complain with no reasoning. I gotta regulate my emotions tho 😱

[graceful storm]

Yeah ur being a little unhinged

[bright latch]

No reason to get upset pal.

[strange creek]

You help the game to die with a toxic elitist nerd attitude.

[chilly mulch]

Watch how upset I am

[winter tinsel]

I agree, still hoping they do a floor 1 like it was originally pitched

[bright latch]

What is all that?

[chilly mulch]

His message. He said "I just want uninstall"

So I said "Fine, do it."

You didn't scroll up bro

[strange creek]

Because of the stupid no mmr situation yes.

[bright latch]

Yea well I read it everyone is entitled to their own opinion. No reason for you to get upset man we not even playing the game right now.

[chilly mulch]

Dude instead of trying to guilt trip people just talk about the MMR thing. Answer my first question. If you want MMR, how do you incentivize having an MMR system?

[winter tinsel]

or they could just limit gear in norms again, that way you don't have to play against lab crafted bis

[chilly mulch]

You've gotta be his friend because ain't no way someone says "I'm gonna uninstall" and I say "Okay, do it" and that's emotionally unregulated. Relax man. Think a bit on it.

[radiant plinth]

why does solos have f teaming option is this game rtrded or some shit?

[bright latch]

Tbf what he is probably upset about. Getting killed but turbo juiced guys.

[strange creek]

I don't care now.

Game uninstalled, review posted.
I wish a nice travell to the grave.
Not my problem anymore, continue to disgust Noobs by rekting them.

A really huge potential game destroyer by stupid choices.

[bright latch]

That's not all you said and you know it everyone can read above. Don't have a the memory of a goldfish lmao 🤣

[winter tinsel]

I think IM prob wanted to avoid the whole "why can't I use my gear in norms!?" complaints but having a limit on it just makes sense. If you wanna use insano bis you gotta play HR

[bright latch]

Yea i miss the blue lobbies was so much fun.

Lmao dude typing for so long 🤣 😂

[chilly mulch]

That's fine, you do you, but for the love of God stop making these rants. Nobody cares if you're mad about getting PvP diffed. Everyone else grinded through the growing pains. You won't. That's fine. Don't guilt trip people because you made a choice to quit playing.

ONE dude on the internet saying "Okay, yeah, uninstall then because you want to uninstall" is not "elitism," it's how the game fuckin works breh.

[winter tinsel]

ye I would argue HR was in a healthier state too cuz ppl had a reason to play it aside from just seasonal rewards

[strange creek]

You've done it with Noobs.
Not ONLY with 500hours dudes.

[bright latch]

Seems like you care but you do you boo boo. @winter tinsel yea that's true not sure we will ever get back there though with the pop how it is right now.

[chilly mulch]

I care about having a convo with people. We're in #game-discussion, not "rant and throw out my emotional state after getting beaten in PvP in the PvP gamemodes."

Bro suggested MMR. I engaged with it. He refused to make any points on why an MMR system would work and should be in the game.

[bright latch]

You replied to yourself.

[chilly mulch]

It's for you to read. I wasn't telling dude uninstall off the bat.

[bright latch]

Nah I am good thanks though.

[chilly mulch]

👍 Then don't throw your opinion out there. It's worth nothin

[bright latch]

Same with yours brother.

[chilly mulch]

🥱

[strange creek]

Well, i quit this discord now.
Have fun. I'll laught when the players will be 1k or less.

Bye,

(One less player on a dying game 🙂 )

[chilly mulch]

Shiver me timbers!

[analog summit]

lol imagine people in a random discord server caring about your decision lil bro

[chilly mulch]

I'm apparently toxic cause I said "Okay uninstall" after he said lack of MMR made him want to uninstall 🤣

like bro it's your logic, uninstall if you don't like it and it's causing you that much discomfort

[merry crater]

"Lil bro"

[bright latch]

He's not here anymore. Well have a good one, hope you find work soon.

[chilly mulch]

😴

bro won't read anything I said but will be dead confident on assuming who I am 😴

[analog summit]

its just a game

[chilly mulch]

facts

[tranquil snow]

hes actually getting buffed in the next patch notes

[distant pasture]

please fix solos , not solos when u can 3 man . some bs

[chilly mulch]

real shit

[distant pasture]

that alone will bring in players

[chilly mulch]

100%. It ain't solos right now. It's just run to the nearest guy, party up, and go wipe the lobby with three stacks. Not solos.

[distant pasture]

i get on the game and just sit and wait to play. no point unless u stacked. cant just get on and run a few games

[chilly mulch]

exactly.

I was trying to run some HR with a friend and we picked up a random from GH, we were just running squire kits as was the random, and the random was talking about best builds and we were like "Bro we're just trying to play, dw about builds" and the bro kept talkin nonstop about builds til we're just like "Aight we duoing then"

[distant pasture]

even if they made it so u can party up to a duo max... would at least be able to fight2v1. only on solos

[digital smelt]

this will do nothing, get a hobby.

[radiant merlin]

I can't log in to the game, it's loading forever

[graceful storm]

Surely you've tried restarting a few times before posting in here

[snow zephyr]

is anyone having just like mutiple tech issues last night when i played if i tabbed out of dnd my screen would just flash back and now today when i load it up and enter the lobby my audio is all staticy and distorted and it only does this when i load up dnd audio is fine and clear on everything else except dark and darker

havent changed anything in my settings worked fine yesterday well the audio did atleast

[minor sequoia]

5k active cant find more than 2 people per lobby w game

[snow zephyr]

this game is so fucking bad

ontop of the horrendous shitty updates my game has been breaking constantly

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow you guys should eat the barrel of a shotgun for considering youselves game devs uninstalling this compiled garbage of a horribly optimized game

nvm it fixed cant wait to get into the dungeons ^_^

[bitter heart]

@snow zephyr speaking FACTS

[vocal vine]

so 3 stack and a solo warlock can team now?

[lyric creek]

my man, what type of life do you live to the point that you'd say such hateful things over a game ? They're meant to be fun and waste time, Not be life changing to the point that you'd want a life lossed over it.

[opaque crane]

whats the best class rn

[indigo scroll]

shut ur corny ass up

[warm rune]

Actually a cornball take

[nimble hornet]

Where does one find the cursed bandages? Mummies?

[fathom raptor]

When will there be a restriction on gear?

[hot beacon]

god take out teaming pls

imma lose my mind if i run into one more 2-3 man in solos

this guy gets it, channeling my inner dmx to maybe escape w my life

[graceful storm]

Then dont play it until its fixed

[hot beacon]

just got back into a couple days ago, took a break when they took out modifiers and solo, i got a few more deaths in me before i hang it up

[solid spoke]

Hey guys small streamer here. I stopped playing about a month and a half ago or two months. SDF just really ruined my personal experience and affected many others. However I’m seeing that some changes are coming back (again) and wondering if the game is worth getting back into? Saw solos are also back? Someone shed some light for me and don’t hold back with the honesty!

[lyric creek]

games the same, people who die to pve still mad over losing thier bis 1k kits.

[tranquil helm]

so wrong theres alot changed in the game lmao

[solid spoke]

When you say “game is the same” do you mean it’s still really rough or do you mean “same” as in mid season last season? Because if it’s back to how it was 2 months ago I’m game to try it.

[lyric creek]

if you do the math, he added modifiers to increase your damage by 12% but reduced the damage you do to 10% less per where you hit, meaning the original values when added to the new 12% increase still equals out, So now you can modify your gear for more work to do the same. The changes are changes that dont really change the gameplay.

[tranquil helm]

if they dont change and noone cares why does the game peak at 5k players not instead of the 40k before

[solid spoke]

Okay so are solos back?

[tranquil helm]

yes solos are back but you can invite people to your group within the solos

[solid spoke]

Wait what? How is that solos

[bold marsh]

I tried playing the game with a friend few days ago.
We haven't played for roughly 2month I think ?
No more solo no more duo, no more gear Q meaning ppl with unique will crawl in the lobby and insta kill you when you're just getting starting with squire gear :x

[tranquil helm]

its THEIR idea of solos and its terrible everytimne you go into solos your gnna be fighting duos and trios

[solid spoke]

Okay this is the honesty I needed to hear.

[tranquil helm]

they need to just collect the data from when the game had peak population and revert the game back to that.

[bold marsh]

I used to love Dark and Darker.
Not my game anymore.

It used to be 30k+ players everyday, now it's 3k daily.
There's a big issue and I'm really concerned about the design decision made on the game 😦

[solid spoke]

Also this. Thank you. So let me also ask. Is pve gone? I actually personally really enjoyed the “laid back” nature of the pve. It was fun to play with friends and fight pve with others

[tranquil helm]

pve is still in the game

[rare oracle]

If you take reds. You are guaranteed to be run down by a trio. Dumbest idea ever

[solid spoke]

Okay last question. When is the new season drop?

[tranquil helm]

august 20

[solid spoke]

Okay maybe I’ll come back for that then. Until then I hope they play their cards right and revert.

[delicate steppe]

You can team in solos and there's no 0-24 gear bracket so full legendary ppl are stomping on greys for some reason

[tranquil helm]

would be nice if they would atleast publicly anounce their wrong doing and own up to the mistake and let us know whats going on before the game fully dies.

[bold marsh]

100% agreed.
I really really used to love the game.
It used to be such a fun experience for a PvP dungeon crawler.

[tranquil helm]

you dont really get to make a game based off personal vision its based off the people playing it and funding it lmao if the people who fun the game dont like your vision and you push it anyways your studio will fall.

[bold marsh]

Especially for community based/online games

[delicate steppe]

Let this be a lesson of hubris

[thin sand]

chinese juiced team on west fulgor pulv and cinder

[full nacelle]

yo, is cave troll weak to warlock? it says -200% dark magic. but 100% evil magic. is warlock evil or dark or how does that work ?

[hasty pumice]

Is teaming a banable offence in HR solos? I was just fighting a duo off of gold pile in HR ice caves

[thorn glen]

No, there's a feature in the game that promotes teaming...in solos. The Y button. It used to be banable. Which is the frustrating part. They can't let go of the 1v3 vision, but aren't supplying enough contributors to make that realistic.

[rare oracle]

The opposite! It is encouraged!

[gusty sierra]

You can literally invite people in dungeon to party, so no, also i have reported dozens b4 6.5, whe it was actually banable, and not a single ban was issued, videoproof and all, so... yeah there's that.

[graceful storm]

Remove solos

[full nacelle]

can someone explain how warlock spells work into cave troll. which spells are dark magic and which are evil magic dude its very confusing i posted in hall of knioghtrs no one responded

[livid onyx]

Damn still Doom and Doomer in here, y'all need cleric troll cheese in your life

[hasty pumice]

So they went from teaming is a bannable offense, to teaming is encouraged with in game systems to support it in a solo queue. Btw, just an update, after killing that duo, I camped, walked back, and there was another duo looting the bodies of the duo I killed. I voiped and asked them to let me get the spoils of my hard fought victory, and they acquiessed. I then joined there team to protect myself from a backstab and am now ignoring their existence in ice abyss. Come on

[livid onyx]

BoC is evil, curse of pain is both evil and curse on the instant and curse on the DoT, hellfire is fire, dark bolt is dark, ray of darkness is dark.

[full nacelle]

thank you pal

[graceful storm]

Dark reflection is also dark

[livid onyx]

And flame Walker is fire, power of sacrifice is purely curse

[split wadi]

Hydra is weirdly an evil spell that does dark damage

So dark shards increase the damage of hydra without using them up

[full nacelle]

ok intersting. so wiki says cave troll is weak to dark but strong vs evil magic. so i shout curse for healing dot and then do ray of darkness or bolt?

[graceful storm]

It's probably better to just melee fight him but I haven't farmed troll in a while you used to could spam hellfire and it worked pretty good but idk now

[full nacelle]

they added fire resistance so you cant and i cba to do troll legit. i needed spectral knight for a quest and i just kited it on warlock. go a fabric drop first kill so i wanna get a troll hide to make a bag

[silver smelt]

#sdfs-kitchen
They already did but they don't care

[ashen willow]

aint nobody playing bro your game sucks ass revert the whole patch back

[livid onyx]

You can still do it with hellfire, it just takes like 3x as long now that he resists it and they increased his health pool by like 30%

[cerulean blade]

doesnt meme beam melt troll now tho or no?

[ashen willow]

you made me install LoL thats how far your game has fallen

[upbeat flare]

Is random matchmaking still off?

[hasty marlin]

did they show the new map stuff yet or no

[low talon]

Why cant they add a sell all button instead of this waste of time system

[graceful storm]

Learn to parry with longsword its way faster than cursing stuff

[hushed haven]

cant believe this game used to bloom with 20k+ players bro what a wash

[silver smelt]

#graysuns-plate

[graceful storm]

Sdf hasn't used the kitchen in a while

[warm rune]

they got a new lawsuit, and this time it’s for everything they own

[astral sparrow]

Hello, are red life potions stackable???

I mean its effect, it is advisable to drink several at once or take them once the effect of the previous one is over.?

[rocky notch]

@zinc sparrow Has there ever been discussion that you can speak of regarding the addition of a Cleric, off hand spell casting item such as a rosary etc. that would function essentially the same as a crystal ball?

[naive coral]

ETa on druid removal

[rough drum]

^

[subtle heart]

no they dont stack you should wait for the potion to finish before drinking another

[graceful storm]

Druids make the game better yall are tripping

[pastel walrus]

Druid haters = bad at game

[astral sparrow]

Thanks

[rare oracle]

Way more

[tardy marsh]

SDF fix solo's killed a duo just for a trio to third party

[graceful storm]

I spectated a squire lizard barb with felling axe that won the 1v3 against 3 teams back to back with morale boost

[tardy marsh]

Yeah, its possible to win outmatched fights it just doesn't feel fair when you go in high roller with gear in solo's and you have to fight trio's

[leaden peak]

imma prayy the patch notes will make game better this time

[fading elk]

When we getting another update

[slow tusk]

tomr, and SDF told me in a dream that hes going to be frocking with the random rolls again

[graceful storm]

I wonder what the inventory guy is doing right now

[wild scaffold]

has any of their leadership mentioned the state of the game? like steam reviews, player count etc?

[woeful tartan]

hes working on a rocket science level thing, making arrows stack to 60, give him another year or so okay ? like its not changing single digit in code

[ocean belfry]

is there gob merchant in pve

[calm torrent]

Im thingking. if i add someone to the team mid dungeon and they kill me afterwards or i kill them then what? is it bannable?

Im thinking how can i exploit the good hears of people xd

[brisk dragon]

bannable as far as i know

[slow tusk]

its not bannable, no where is it stated that it is

[calm torrent]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) now i know what i wanna do

[earnest current]

Game is dead and ironmace keep nerf Rogue , all people keep blame about ambush Rogue in 7 season but there are no rogue player in the game and they keep blame and rogue keep getting nerf , game keep more useless update and all player keep leaving the game

[slow tusk]

rogue is OP wdym?

[calm torrent]

Literally at least 2-3 rogues in every game xd

[earnest current]

if 1 class is OP so where all the player , and in team fight where is the Rogue , just use your eyes and spend 10m for 1 game and count how many rogue you see that landmine you , what you chat just prove every thing i say is true

[slow tusk]

just because rogue is OP doesnt mean everyone has to play it, rogue has no counter play, rogue always win fights

[calm torrent]

Kite throw knifes shoot 2 crossbows. its terminally ill gameplay

[earnest current]

that the reason for Girl blame every thing wrong and she right , cleric meta all play cleric , druid meta all play druid , landmine meta all play rogue , hp stack all play Barb and pdr fighter . just prove me and aswer me where is all the Rogue and how many rogue u see in the game , 90% they all run instal and 10% try to teabag teaming

[slow tusk]

this is not true, do you even play the game?

[calm torrent]

I for one never play meta, i only play my main sorc 🙂 even though he is not broken i have fun 😄

Tbh the only annoying thing this season is the people terminally online complaining everyday and the fact that they nerfed sorc

[earnest current]

you ask me the question i ask you and all player blame rogue and ask for more nerf on rogue and Invisible skill

[slow tusk]

yeah? because rogue is OP, ofc everyone wants to nerf rogue

[sonic maple]

How's the off-season for everyone

[slow tusk]

terrible, rogues everywhere. they need to nerf rogue

[strange tiger]

gg quiting, normals is the new high roller

[hushed haven]

i can't even bring myself to play the game ironically anymore

[silver smelt]

What are devs cooking?

[proper sandal]

Bard song of silence why doesn't it interrupt animal forms it says " Interrupt all skills spells and songs used by nearby enemies and prevents them from using skills casting spells or playing songs" does Shapeshift not count as a skill?!?

[fleet pelican]

You can only interrupt the cast time of shapeshift

[stiff jackal]

what perks whould i use when being sorcerer? right now i got spell merge, spell sculpting, time distortion and i dunno what to have for the 4th one

[real rover]

How to make dark and darker great again:
-Remove the expandable map
-Remove the static extracts
-Remove the amount of portals to that of playtest 3/4
-Reintroduce the swarm circle
-Make goblin caves solo only, the rest trio (can enter as duo or solo too)

These days, basically everyone can extract at any time. There's hardly any feel of friction between players when in the dungeon, and no sense of urgency whatsoever. Some of my favorite/most adrenaline pumping moments were when it was me and another person fighting for the final portal as the swarm closed in. What happened to our "hard-core extraction game"? Why don't we arrive in a tavern after the dungeon by now instead of the ugly merchant ui, with a big titty inn keeper offering us an ale while we take a moment of rest?

[cunning jolt]

So when we getting pourpoint on sorc?

[fading elk]

If they don’t give out a good update in the next few days the game is going to be too far gone

[cunning jolt]

These suggestions suck. No wonder SDF never reads this trash chat

[blissful valve]

lET THE ARENA OPEN MY GOD

[shadow flicker]

when does the new season come out ?

[blissful valve]

nothing is more enjoyable than the arena at the moment, others mods suck and you feel the need to remove it 4 days a week. Like can i have a specific explication why it does make sense to close it?

[real rover]

You suck lol enjoy the super casual friendly, walking through a garden of flowers gameplay that caters to shitters like you haha

Game died when it became too noob friendly. Now there's no one to bully the noobs who decide to stick around lmao player base will never recover atp. Plug will get pulled eventually

[ivory aurora]

I doubt thats the reason

[cunning jolt]

Stupidest take of all time. The game has to be for all types of players to grow and if they made your changes maybe like 6 people would like that but 99% of normal humans would never pick up the game because it would be far too punishing to try and learn

[opal patrol]

This game died when they catered to the “casual” audience and that’s just a fact. This game was originally a “hardcore fantasy” experience

[warm rune]

it catered to a minority, which in every case possible, is the worst decision

[near stump]

Every day I come home from work and look at the discord to see if there is an update because SDF pulled his head out his rear and we have a patch.....Dummy me lmao

[junior wyvern]

As was foretold, the timmy army would whine and cry until they bent the game backwards to appease them. and so the original dark and darker is long gone and forgotten, with the playercount going with it

[opal patrol]

No feeling of death around the corner at all times, that’s what this game was about and its lost that

[warm rune]

I liked the feeling of getting cool loot

[silver smelt]

They placed noobs in PVE mode and made normal mode a battle Royale
....

[calm torrent]

why is warlock hitting me for half hp with 2 curses as a sorc when i have 33% mdr and he wasnt geared -.-

[ivory aurora]

because the game is just that punishing, shouldnt have been anywhere near a warlock

[sonic maple]

And here I hear barb complaints mainly

[ashen willow]

u better remove handshake tmrw or another -1k

[stiff jackal]

fr

[hushed crane]

game is work now? for me it's infinity 'connecting...'

[fair yacht]

game is deader than dead. sdf can finally rest knowing his mission is achieved. he showed us players that he alone controls Dark and Darker. our pitiful cries of "please don't remove the modes that 70% of the playerbase enjoys" and "no SDF don't remove attributes you know we hated it last time" and "please give us solos back, oh no you bamboozled us with pretending to give us solos back" all in vain. he has ascended to CEO-hood and nothing will stop him now.

[brave oriole]

This sucks

[cyan spindle]

If you are clearing crypt/inferno Bosses with a wizard in trio. Do you need to have ignite or dump mm and then normal melee?

[worldly wedge]

Another vision..

[wispy warren]

is anyone else having trouble connecting to game servers???

[frail bloom]

anybody know the soft cap for phys power?

[formal gale]

any hints about this week's hotfix?

[boreal marsh]

Probably going back to a previous "vision"

[formal gale]

bbooooo

[gusty sierra]

Their narcissism made the comunity leave, their ego made them not only not to apologise but also not to revert all their mistakes immediately... Now it looks like they're losing the appeal and might have to shut down everything anyway (Nexons demand), so i guess they're trying to se how fast they can kill it themselves b4 theyre legally required to... Out of spite for the playerbase that turned their back to them... for treating said comunity like they dont NEED them, when they actually did.

[cerulean blade]

do you write fan fics for any other games?

[deep apex]

bro this teaming shit is so dumb. Literally every solo game...

[unreal stirrup]

The emote thing is neat for a miniwipe idk im enjoying it

[gusty sierra]

Play trio hr, thats the closest thing to solos, basically solo people farming gold and gear, virtually no trios, unlike in solo q. yw

[deep apex]

Its fun for 5 mins then when you wanna just lay back and play solo you get rushed down by two barbs and a druid

[neon blaze]

hardest boss in your guys opinion?

[deep apex]

my urge to press "exit game" after the first game on

[sullen mesa]

^^^^^^

[graceful storm]

They should've never added solos in the first place or attempted to bring it back

[peak shore]

Excellent

[gusty sierra]

0/10 bait

[dapper ice]

on the next wipe can we get a wipe of all the moderators too?

[graceful storm]

Adding solos is the only reason this game isn't the new fortnite right now

[dapper mortar]

they should of never removed random matchmaking

[graceful storm]

Im kidding simmer down

[gusty sierra]

-1/10 bait, a fortnite reference, that makes you either too young or too old, which explaind the low quality bait, i appreciate the effort tho'

[graceful storm]

Well you cant read because I said I was kidding so who's low quality now

[gusty sierra]

0/10

[graceful storm]

0/100000

[fierce violet]

Day 20 of earnestly enquiring: is this game dead yet?

[gusty sierra]

Even the chat is dead, i guess most dont even care enough to complain anymore... gg wp

[dapper mortar]

no

[fierce violet]

Looks like they succeded, filing for bankrupcy now

[dapper ice]

expecting anyone in this chat to know how to read

[fierce violet]

There are 0 good vibes in the dungeons anymore, start of 6.5 when no one cared because loot was dull was the best state this game has ever been in. Frankly shows gameplay is worth more than loot headaches.

[graceful storm]

Yeah that guy is hopeless just trying to rage bait flip people its pretty sad

[dapper ice]

isn't that this entire discord?

[fierce violet]

Well I'm going back to playing classic wow where loot is simple and people are less hateful even with pvp turned on

[stoic shadow]

Shocked random match making isn’t back

[dapper ice]

ok bye

[graceful storm]

This game is perfect ❤️

[fierce violet]

It's the most obvious self sabotaged they've ever done. However it's also obvious they fired a bunch of people and simply lack the technical knowhow to have it enabled in some modes and not in others.

[outer grail]

anyone enjoying the game?

[dapper ice]

i'm enjoying dumpstering druids this wipe

[graceful storm]

As long as you dont try to force yourself into the awful solo mode and play solos as a solo its actually feels fine if you have a squad. They rage baited all the solo players and now they're complaining about solos non stop

[dapper ice]

druid nerfs + abundant fire bottles is one good thing sdf did

how about adding real content or fixing existing broken stuff before trying to rework existing systems that are just fine

[timber badger]

thats fine as well, but do you think this system would be better? like it gives more loot options

[remote path]

Continuing my campaign of trying to get the bug of missing name tags in normals fixed, I am once again posting the link to the suggestion to return them on ironmaces feedback site: https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/654667/return-name-tags-for-party-members-to-normals

[graceful storm]

imagine someone who cant figure out how to change the stack size of arrows trying to re work the magic system let's be real here

[dapper ice]

magic system guy left sorry

[tropic tangle]

i hope tomorrow patch is deleting solo´s pre teamings

[dapper ice]

i hope tomorrow patch is permanently banning all of the current discord moderators

[timber badger]

so the curent is fine as is then, this was more about game design, then if they will do it

was hoping the game would be more tarkov esque

[limber spire]

Tomorrows patch will nerf barbs. Source - trust me bro

[wispy warren]

anyone else having trouble singing in?

[outer grail]

surprising they're rage baiting players that actually have balls to play a game by themselves.

thx goodness im traveling

[dapper mortar]

barbs aint even op

[low talon]

OPEN ARENA YOU MONKEYS

[zenith arch]

Have you ever heard of cleanse? Yeah that's been bugged since its inception

[fleet pelican]

Really? I remember cleanse working perfectly during the playtests and the whole lifetime of the game, then people thought it was broken because they nerfed it to only cleanse warlock curses

[mild sinew]

add a down portal for GC , demon gate built by the Goblins and theres only 1, vermintide shit

[dapper mortar]

does old rusty key have a chance to drop artifact?

[hollow wigeon]

Only things enjoyable is going up to ppl with your hand out then killing them other then that nope games absolute buns

[graceful storm]

I cant get into goblin caves its always been my least favorite map i would rather get a ruins like top level for ice caves now that the other levels are pretty sick on it

[warped anvil]

@glad thunder bring back fills man that shit was peak idgaf what you do with the nametag stuff but being able to jump between solo and trio was cool. I like to loot alone, and pvp as a team. Fill made it so quick to team up, loved that shit. come on bro please. and remove solo team ups thats super not cool or fun or adventurous

[barren ingot]

3 man in solos?? Forget that!!! I just saw a 5 man Chinese bossing team. Look what you did SDF… this is getting cringe now

[dapper mortar]

a lot of them are american now

[hard roost]

bro he will never understand he watched it die and did absolutely nothing.

[barren ingot]

Nah this is in OCE. We got rolled by 3 barbs all bissed out the second we kill the boss, then a duo go straight for pile while barbs guard them. It was quite the scene

[hard roost]

Bro he had 20-40k active players online daily and he managed to do 4k peak daily XD

just keep it at the same pace but nah he will rather blow it up this SDF guy is something else

[barren ingot]

SDF killed his own game

He does not care about his community and is becoming very lazy with development tbh

[median salmon]

And yet he got promoted to CEO.......

[robust mica]

no.

[robust mica]

i had something similar happen NA

[barren ingot]

It’s nothing out of ordinary in OCE

[robust mica]

thats crazy im sorry to hear that. im guessing its for R M Trading

[graceful storm]

SDF just dm'd me and said Wiggity Woo I am in the loo how are you

[robust mica]

false. SDF only speaks via ChatGPT

[abstract veldt]

me, really much. Specially those 200% damage headshot

[graceful storm]

oh no i have been fooled

[mild sinew]

it would be sick to see demon goblins with crazy attacks

[robust mica]

How To (Actually) Make DaD Great Again:

1. SDF hires Game Director and steps back from development to focus on future Ironmace projects
2. Sorc and Wizard combined into one class (why wiz have ice mastery and one ice spell. sorc has lightning mastery bruh why)
3. disable Druid next wipe for re-design
4. introduce early access version of Monk (give him meditation from wiz bruh why wiz have meditate)
5. solos only game mode
6. separate Solo Self Found season with its own Arena, Adventure Points, and Leaderboards
7. fine release stupid water map whatever
8. 150% headshot multiplier
9. Monthly content teasers and release development roadmap for Q4 '25 -> Q2 '26
10. twitch drops always a W

[pulsar creek]

Lame-o's using legendary and artifact gear to kill nakeds in level 1 ruins is the most pathetic thing I have ever seen

[barren ingot]

yea we get alolt of them over in our servers. Its also fun killing them though 🙂

[pulsar creek]

"People" who do that were not loved as a child

[barren ingot]

just kill them

[pulsar creek]

"Throw rocks at that .50 mounted humvee, just kill them," Buffoon logic

[barren ingot]

You think just because they have gear they are unkillable? Ive destroyed Absolute BIS legendarys with Named in some trash purples before with barely any good stats. Even as a rogue in piss gear with true on everything you can kill very very geared players

[pulsar creek]

No you haven

They are unkillable, they're esentially MMA heavyweights rolling into a preschool, they are the scummiest heathens there are, and you're defending that. You're worse, you are a liar, a sweat, and not good at the game even

[barren ingot]

ok bud keep crying in here like anyone cares lmfao

[pulsar creek]

You do care, why else would you respond

[cunning jolt]

Lmao nothing upsets me more than a 5 stack of non english speaking players in my US servers

[barren ingot]

just to spite you now tbh

[ocean yacht]

hey can anyone help me with my dissertation? i need to interview someone with 5k+ hours on this game

[pulsar creek]

Thats spite? Youre pathetic and dim in the dome. I was right again, you sweats are all huge (literally, Im guessing over 30% body fat) losers

[subtle heart]

funny how there more trios on solo than in trios

[barren ingot]

Get rekt

[pulsar creek]

Get in a car accident

[subtle heart]

😂

[rustic socket]

bruh this def a skill issue but im tired of getting one tapped by nightmare axeman lmao. i keep fucking the duck up then boom i dead

[graceful kettle]

Nightmare axeman is harder than 1v3 ppl

[buoyant panther]

are nametag back yet

[mild sinew]

you guys gotta add the Rare gear cap for norms back , also make it so we can swat away farts

[lunar hearth]

So whats the point of Clear chat if it still pops up?

[slender orchid]

Water map is a metaphor

[graceful storm]

why is there still duo chat if they remove duos

[long garnet]

cause they revert 90% of changes

[ocean gale]

98*

[tight sun]

anyone else having issues loading into the game?

[narrow zephyr]

when is the wipe

[willow terrace]

Did they fix the game or nah

[solid plaza]

nope still trios running in solos xD

[willow terrace]

fuck. remind me IF they do fix it (theyre not gonna 😔 )

[solid plaza]

they could easily fix it if they cared just release some content fix solos and already would be better game

also when is wipe any news on expected date?

[cerulean blade]

hopefully tomorrow it'll be playable

[solid plaza]

at least i decided on my main char after taking forever to get back into game after long break hope i get to enjoy this game again

[rustic socket]

bring back real solos you dumb devs. no one wants their solos to have teamers in it. yall flip flop every day. in the beginning teamming was bannable, now its encouraged. yall fr have no clue wtf yall are doing

[mellow hill]

me too

[zenith summit]

merging classes would suck.

[chilly mulch]

👁️ 👃 👁️
🔴 👄 🔴

[tired ferry]

bring back adventure mode random grouping ya mouth breathers. i dont wanna have to group with a buncha sweats when doing casual content

[solid plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/long-awaited-update-alien-2034-gif-1394462935056377593

[willow terrace]

but SDF's totally cool vision bro.... 🥀

[solid plaza]

aww gifs dont work here xD

[tranquil helm]

wipe is august 20 it tells you in game

[solid plaza]

[feral storm]

Anyone know if the scroll of forgotten knowlede has some sort of use?

[graceful storm]

yeah sure... they wont push the wipe back like they always do..... sure i believe them this time

[solid plaza]

oh right you reminded me of previos wipe

expect + 3 weeks at least from announced date

[graceful storm]

even if they do their best and do start the wipe on official wipe day something usually happens and the game is closed for an update and/or theres a major bug or oversight that makes the game unplayable

[icy halo]

is pre teaming solos against the rules?

[solid plaza]

not anymore

[icy halo]

so i wont get banned from this disc if i make a group for solos preteaming?

[solid plaza]

doesnt look like anyone getting banned but i would not risk it

[graceful storm]

if you do ill protest for your release brother

[calm torrent]

why the fk is the creep still in the game

[graceful storm]

honestly we should all just lean into it with the pre teamming and make solos the worst place ever so they undo it faster

[icy halo]

if youre us west we can go rn

[solid plaza]

it already is xD

[graceful storm]

i know but we can probably make it even worse if everyone was on board

[solid plaza]

at that point its 3v3 lobby not solos xD

[calm torrent]

Rogues with creep and cutt are so cringe fkin dummies

[fervent anvil]

you wont get banned from here if you dont make the group or advertise it here. you will get banned for preteaming in game tho :)

[solid plaza]

you can smell them when you look at silent dark rooms xD

[graceful storm]

nobody getting banned for teamming in the current state of this game

[solid plaza]

just make party in same game and its not against rules anymore

[graceful storm]

they didnt even ban people for it before when it was clearly against the rules and the handshake wasnt a thing

[tired ferry]

free dotem

[solid plaza]

also you need proof of pre teaming which is hard to get

[warm ingot]

Done with game until true solos comes back.

Hopefully with a statement that says teaming is bannable or its gonna be the same shit

[graceful storm]

it kills me how they did this half wipe to get the game right, and they honestly did a pretty good job overall but then they just cant help it they ALWAYS have to throw some BS in there like this teaming in solos thing. They have never had a 100% W patch theres always something thats a bad idea sprinkled in

[midnight lynx]

BRing back duos and solos and lets have the game we all loved

[midnight lynx]

Facts

[solid plaza]

they did not do a good job they removed attributed then all players left thats why they brought it back

[blazing fox]

since they made solos-trios they should remove trios .,.,.,.,. then bring it back

[solid plaza]

cant call it new content if they dont remove it first xD

[graceful storm]

they did do a pretty good job with the gear part of this update imo. its completely playable and fun imo as far as 3v3 pvp goes they just ruined it by making headshots do 200% and also the 0 IQ solos thing they couldnt help but leave in

[blazing fox]

since they want to force us to play a team based game ima go play another team based game wildgate

[dapper mortar]

man i dislike wildgates art style

[fervent anvil]

yeah but wildgate costs money

[hallow mango]

🫃
🦵 🥚

[naive coral]

Druid removed next season yet.

[dapper ice]

ban all discord mods when?

[halcyon knoll]

Anyone know how to fix can't connect to server quit game, I've tried mostly everything I can think of and nothing seems to work

[low talon]

STOP TREATING US LIKE ANIMALS OPEN ARENA YOU MONKEYS PLANET OF THE KOREAN MONKEYS

[warm olive]

whens full wipe taking forever with all these updates just to revert back if u want to save ur game just do the full wipe and stop changing it sm when the game already had a lot of players and screwing up the economy with early religon rewards save it for the end

[karmic belfry]

are solos and duos back in the game?

[tame panther]

is anyone else lagging horribly?

[subtle robin]

solo only

[mild lily]

you mean trios, disuised as solos

[subtle robin]

yeha the squad system for solos is horrible, more bad choices from devs that cant do anything right

[hallow mango]

🫃
🦵 🥚

[mild lily]

i think its funny, that before this "feature" entered, you actually was banned for doing so, but now its encouraged, i guess they have to collect data on why its horrible, lots of data has to be collected you know

i wonder how high the player count is right now

[mortal crest]

I'd like to say I put my hand out and a barbarian crushed my skull. My names eugene and I was just trying to make a friend

[open temple]

#Canweplzreverttosolo,dou,triolobbieswehateitlikethisSDF.DO SOMETHING

[near walrus]

when is wipe?

[vague quest]

?????????

[rustic oar]

played a couple games and from what i gathered at least 80% of the player base is barbarians

[wide canopy]

Late august

[analog grove]

What is the matter with druid? Fast as rogue, heals up and buffs, goes bear and can 1v1 barb? I am a bit confused, was naked druid as well, impossible to chase down as a slayer fighter.

[rustic oar]

got teamed on by the same 2 full geared barbs 3 games in a row. mind you this is in solos

[carmine spindle]

its just that druid needs a buff 😔

[rustic oar]

gg this game is dead and sdf killed it i dont even know why i tried to return

[sonic maple]

We are animals

[carmine spindle]

we are horses

[rustic oar]

genuinly horrible community and horrible devs. i pray on the downfall of this game

[carmine spindle]

jeepers mister

[rustic oar]

they want a good solo queue experience and than just allow teaming? is sdf braindamaged beyond belief

[fervent anvil]

someone clearly sucks at the game

[rustic oar]

i got teamed on in solo's by the same 2 geared barbs 3 games in a row

[fervent anvil]

skill issue

[severe coyote]

Which god are you praying too?

[rustic oar]

ive only played 3 games this season

[severe coyote]

and 2 of them were candy crush.

[fervent anvil]

damn you got a really big skill issue

[rustic oar]

i used to play when this game had good potential

[rustic oar]

2,700 players btw. these changes must be real popular

[severe coyote]

Is your name garfield because you eat too much lasagna and leech off the existence of your single father?

[chilly mulch]

: (

[rustic oar]

enjoy your dead game

[sonic maple]

Average dnd addict during off-season

[fervent anvil]

2700 isnt dead :) 27 is dead. not 2700

[fleet surge]

❌ Play the game or a different game
✅Say “This game is dead” — 7 times a day — like it’s a job
❌ Let anyone enjoy anything
✅Stay in the Discord 24/7 even though you “quit months ago”
❌ Log off
✅ Threaten to uninstall… every 3 hours

Say what you want but if you hate the devs hate the game etc … why are you still here? 😂

[rustic oar]

you better hope the water map update is good.

[fleet surge]

Like go enjoy life 😂

[rustic oar]

this is the first time i played the game in a year and half

[fervent anvil]

i couldnt care less if the water map is good :) ice caves and crypts are good and those 2 are the maps i care about :)

[fleet surge]

I agree

[fleet surge]

If you have only played this game once in the last year in a half….. again why are you taking the time out of your day to come shit on the game in the discord. Make that make sense.

[warm path]

Who do i speak to about my donation code not working?

[rustic oar]

i have free will

[fleet surge]

Clearly 😂

[fervent anvil]

says the 2000th person today to come and complain in the exact same way

[warm path]

Akay you talkin to me?

[rustic oar]

hey maybe 2000 people are right?

[fleet surge]

I just find it weird for people that don’t like the game or devs seem to be the MOST obsessed with it 😂

Like playing a game once in a year in a half but being so COMPELLED you need to come to the discord to tell people it’s bad is hilarious that really is some obsession

[rustic oar]

because i like the old game. it was the most fun i've had. and he just destroys it every single patch

[warm path]

I have to dissagree garf....

[rustic oar]

with what point?

[fleet surge]

Eventually you’ll need to move on. No matter how much you complain it isn’t gonna get sdf to revert every thing back to the way you liked it. I know it sucks but you can do it man you already don’t play the game you are so close

Happiness is just on the other side when you give up on what it used to be

[rustic oar]

were so back this game is 🔥

[fleet surge]

Hell yeah!

[rustic oar]

genuinely nothing good to play. the tarkov wipe was a wash

[wooden harness]

Boys sdf is cooking but y’all just blind. It’s the best patch ever for this game

[fervent anvil]

tarkov wipe was bad for you cause you suck at the game :)

[rustic oar]

the tarkov wipe sucked because of transit you ret4rd

[hallow yoke]

eventually there will only be barbs & druids left

[fervent anvil]

awww were you camped at a transit?

[fleet surge]

That’s the dream some would say vision

[rustic oar]

i dont want 20 minutes of queue times. are you brain damaged akay

[fervent anvil]

as a shield bash main ima still be here punching the rats

[hallow yoke]

ig ill be last wiz

[fervent anvil]

then pick better servers :) i was in queue for a max of 2 mins on wipe day :). also nice edit to try and not get urself banned :)

[tame panther]

IM SOS SICK OF THIS FUCKING LAG MAKING ME LOSE KITS

[fervent anvil]

someones getting a bit angy :)

[tame panther]

how do u change servers im not seeing the option anywhere

[karmic spade]

hope mobs in the future have more than 1 swing

[tough anchor]

i am having issues connecting. Load into game, says cannot connect to server please exit game

[wraith wigeon]

there should be mobs that can just look at you with one hit

[frail merlin]

you arent able to change servers anymore.

[tough anchor]

anyone else having server connection issues or just me? And how do i fix it

[sonic maple]

Off season different from season?? Reeeeeee

[coarse portal]

Doesn't matter if he does revert it all back. The game is over and will never bounce back.

[fleet surge]

Doesn’t matter anyways servers are shutting down next month…

[wraith wigeon]

the game is shutting down?

[mild sinew]

when is the szn 7 wipe

[twin sapphire]

You know if it does this is the greatest gaming fumble of all time. Honestly crazy strong bones for a game. Honestly if I was a bigger game company I’d just offer to buy the game. So much money can be made.

[fleet surge]

I wish someone would either buy it or more companies would compete bc people love this idea it will definitely be a huge fumble if it gets shut down tho

[drowsy narwhal]

@rough narwhal did i just kill you as barb

[twin sapphire]

The other issue is if EA, blizzard, or epic games wouldn’t be able to make the game successful

[fleet surge]

Yeah true but I think it has a lot of potential people love this genre with DnD fantasy. A lot of money to be made

[sonic maple]

microsoft just layed off thousands but maybe they have a sick ai dev for dnd

[tardy jungle]

i played solos for two runs and got 1v3'd

[past lark]

i hope nexon wins the rights so we can have actual cosmetics and content

[sonic maple]

ya this offseason is weird and different and Im angry at whats different from myself so...

[true mulch]

why is it so laggy

[livid onyx]

Cleric troll cheese is still the same

[rare oracle]

Once you realize everything was intentional because of the lawsuit. It all makes sense.

[sonic maple]

summer is the worst for gaming are you there

byt ya they needed time to finish new map sadly

[dapper mortar]

anyone know what scroll of lost names do?

[livid onyx]

Exactly why steam has summer sales, to bring people in. Im guessing this game goes on sale or full F2P model after the wipe.

[smoky fable]

is there a place i can make more complaints

[dense perch]

I am looking forward to it.

[wraith wigeon]

Dark

[fickle needle]

Can anyone confirm if HR Frost Wyvern drops artifacts right now? My buddy and I have killed him so many times... nothing

[quiet smelt]

when is wipe

[gritty sluice]

I have around 25 or 30 no artifact but it does drop. I know someone who said it took around 100 for a pulv lol

[livid onyx]

yes is supposed to drop every artifact unless they changed its drop pool

[fickle needle]

thanks

[sonic maple]

has low drop rate

[steel radish]

Can’t wait to see the extremely minor adjustment patch they release that just reverts everything back a couple of weeks. SDF is still in Cl 0WN World

[swift raptor]

growing clear that this isnt a real dev studio.

[jolly crane]

guys what weapon can the figher use to one tap break doors

[pale lintel]

isnt this game getting sued rn...

[fervent anvil]

u just got shit luck

[swift raptor]

idk they already lost 6mill from prior lawsuit, not sure if there is new one

[ocean nymph]

stuck on connecting for anyone else?

[obsidian shell]

Halberd 🐴

[rough drum]

the most wild thing is that no one at this company has come out and said "hey, yeah -- we frocked up leaving the Y button on in solos. thats our bad, will be fixed soon" the fact that it takes a week to do so is almost as wild

[swift raptor]

there no question in my mind that they did not make this game. the lack of updates and only tweaking values of items, the apparent lack of resources and community outreach, the unprofessional and egotistical way the devs react to community feedback, no new content whatsoever from a VERY polished game is soooo suspect. how do you create a polished game with such a small team and provide 0 new content.

enjoy the new lawsuit

[thin sand]

theres no way they win this lawsuit. it would set precedent and leave the door open for other people to do the exact same thing. the games stolen we all know it

[silver smelt]

Devs added lots of stats to gear in season 6 not even to test stuff but to make items way more valuable so they make more money on them

[tropic rain]

It's been getting sued since playtest XD

[rugged horizon]

can u describe the current state of the game in 10 words ?

[sonic maple]

are we addicted to drama vids

[warm rune]

Korean*

[tropic rain]

It's unlikely they're gonna shut the game down due to the lawsuit, since it was already dictated in court that this game did not infringe the copyrights of project P3. But they lost the "Trade secrets" lawsuit. Although it only implies IM would have to pay millions to Nexon if they lose the appealing.

[warm rune]

hopefully they leak their own source before that so that willing players can design a good game

[warm rune]

Idk it seems very likely to me dark and darker loses this. South Korean judges are so corrupt I wouldn’t be surprised if it rules in favor of them taking everything away. Which is good in my opinion because these devs DO NOT deserve it

I mean ur not wrong lol. At least you know what those games will be though.

[mild sinew]

i want to be able to swat away farts SDF

[tropic rain]

The copyright lawsuit was already settled in favor of IM, which means they won't force IM to close the game.

[mild sinew]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/656401/gas-cloud-feature

[warm rune]

The lawsuit can also reopen, this trial is a show trial, for nexon to show that businesses should not be able to get away with stealing people’s intellectual property

[near pecan]

is the precious cyclops mirror quest added?

[hot beacon]

anyone having a stuttering issue

[indigo wagon]

You have 2 days to remove teaming in solos. @sdf

[hot beacon]

i cant fight a boss bc my game will lag for half a sec and its just emough for a random fast orb to hit me

[indigo wagon]

This has gone on for long enough I’ll give you another day or two

[near pecan]

buy better pc

[fossil axle]

@glad thunder dead game. Gj ruining it

[indigo wagon]

i hate ur guts @sdf

[near stump]

what SDF needs to do is copy and past this chat over the last month and compile the information and have the chat gpt tell him the right way to build the game.....lol

[near pecan]

no he has to hire an indian that will fix his game for 10$

[tame panther]

i should never have spent a dime on this horrible game

losing kits to getting teamed in solos and lagging horribly in certain spots i really just want a refund at this point

[near pecan]

🤣 😂

[tame panther]

how long do we the people a paid to have this game going to deal with this crap

its sad honesty

[brazen wagon]

Yooo i thought my lagging problem was because of my internet
Glad it was the game

[tame panther]

it is the game i only ever lag in certain spots any other time im fine

[near pecan]

not true bro the game is perfect

[tame panther]

ok..

[near pecan]

what you dont like about the game? let me know i will for sure give them feedback so they can improve it!!!

[tame panther]

good to know tysm for the help

[pearl turret]

wipe ?

[brazen wagon]

When?

[pearl turret]

yeah when ?

[near pecan]

i just found an easy fix for the lag problem, get a better internet supplier, also for the stutter, a 5090, and for the in game changes, just dm sdf or graysun they for sure will change everything you guys want! and im 100% sure they will refund the game to you guys and let it keep it in the steam inventory

[tame panther]

thanks woah

[near pecan]

no problem bro

[tame panther]

do you have a 5090? because i cant afford one

[brazen wagon]

I am just glad at this point

[tame panther]

as for the internet i only have like 3 providers in this part of ohio and im with the best one so i guess ill have to deal with the lag thats def only because of my internet not the game..

[near pecan]

if you are struggling against teaming or chinese players, you can do this simple trick: go outside, talk to someone preferably at mcdonalds, and find a new friend, hook them with the game, promise them its gonna be the best experience of their life and team with them, next time the chinese or in game mechanic abusers get on a team, you will for sure win!

[tame panther]

buy me a 5090 woah. and you can join me yourself while your at it to help me fight off the chinese

[near pecan]

bet! send me your crypto wallet

[tame panther]

i have zelle

[near pecan]

sorry i would rather avoid taxes

no 5090 for you

[tame panther]

do you have a 5090?

[near pecan]

of course wth

[stoic shadow]

Whoever is CantCatchthismouse you suck]

[tame panther]

if so just send me your and buy a new one you rich mofo

[near pecan]

that's parasite mindset, you probably also milk your parents

[tame panther]

i have a 2060 super rn

no they actually bug me for money , sorry you seemed like you really wanted to help i figured youd jump at this opportunity to be a philanthropist

ill just make due with what i have and play the games i can run im sorry 😦

[near pecan]

i mean you live in ohio that explains everything 💀 😂 im glad to help you with tips for a better gaming experience

[tame panther]

whats wrong with ohio? youve probably never been here

[karmic spade]

anime profile pic, hes never left his town

[near pecan]

i see, you never seen the memes online

[tame panther]

ive seen them.. but ohio is actually incredibly beautiful

pretty affordable to live in too. alot of americans who can afford a second home have homes in ohio

[near pecan]

affording a home and america doesnt seem to click in my brain

[tame panther]

i got lucky and inherited my home

[sharp maple]

hey guys the game is gonna to get shut down thank god i can finally get a job and take care of my 4 children that live in an army base

[tame panther]

but besides the point the property tax and city taxes arent horrible

[near pecan]

😂

[tame panther]

what state do you live in woah? be honest im only curious

[signal forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940805889500258354/1252026355403456596/attachment.gif

[near pecan]

im in europe

[tame panther]

ohhhhhhhh ok

[near pecan]

its not much better but you dont have to like put everything into debt at least not for now

[tame panther]

what flag?

[near pecan]

you also dont see ppl in scooters at supermarkets because they cant walk of how fat they are 💀

[tame panther]

ahh ok so your just hateful got it

[near pecan]

thats not being hateful tho thats being realistic

[tame panther]

yeah well us fat americans will be bailing you out of whatever kremlin has instore for you so maybe show your protectors a lil more respect lol

but heeeeey.. with that free health care you can afford the fancy 5090 🙂

[near pecan]

"As of the most recent CDC analysis (covering August 2021 to August 2023), approximately 40.3% of U.S. adults are classified as obese (BMI ≥ 30)
Glamour+2CDC+2Wikipedia+2
. This breaks down to around 39.2% of men and 41.3% of women, with the highest prevalence (46.4%) seen in adults aged 40–59
CDC"

[tame panther]

show me the same stats for the whatever euro nation you stay in

[near pecan]

🌍 Europe (EU‑27 + UK + WHO Europe region)
EU‑27 & UK (via WHO / Eurostat data)

In 2022, 20.6 % of adults in the EU‑27 plus UK were obese (BMI ≥ 30)
Open Knowledge FAO
.

Europe and Central Asia region averaged 22.6 % obesity in adults in 2022, up from 15.7 % in 2000

[tame panther]

and most of the problem with our obesity isnt from being lazy but from the heavily processed food and affordable diet we have

[near pecan]

so in translation: trash food everywhere

[tame panther]

but keep on ragging on us its cool.. well still come to your rescue

sweet prince ❤️

[near pecan]

never seen you guys around here never asked for your help either, never been to america and never will, if you guys ever aided us thats cool but the same goes probably for you, you probably also got help from europe at some point

[tame panther]

ok im tired im gonna go to bed and dream of freedom ily woah have a gn

[near pecan]

🥰

[tame panther]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-trump-america-pm-america-usa-gif-9445794783363342883

[near pecan]

i was just ragebaiting tbh idc about politics that much

[lyric creek]

make it a competition we will flip a coin for it heads I get it tails jimbo dont get it and I still do

[tame panther]

yeah same man i thought we both knew this and was just messing around

no no no you arent in this!

[lyric creek]

[near pecan]

ill probably go to texas and eat some pizza

[near pecan]

no how about you send me a 5090 and i give it to Jimbo

[lyric creek]

honestly interested in how much better texas pizza is now

[near pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-gif-24394144

[formal gale]

oh boy. More legal trouble

[coral ibex]

yo anyone wanna run solos as trio in discord? add me. tired of dying to full geared premades. time to do it too

[sullen mesa]

Tends to happen when you steal a game

[tired ferry]

why tf is there no random mm. this is how school shooters get started

[wanton palm]

is game dead?

[tired ferry]

its good if u like playing solo

[coral ibex]

noway u for real saying its good time to solo

[coral ibex]

only with someone, dont even try solo. everyone teaming

[fringe granite]

They improved the PvE loot by moving PvE to HR

[tired ferry]

they dont have mm anymore and if you group up with ppl on this server they are sweats

i have another word for sweats but i cant post it here

[unreal stirrup]

skilled?

[timber imp]

Sup

[tired ferry]

lol good one

[mystic marsh]

Patch?

[wintry saddle]

dose magical healing work on durid

[solid plaza]

anything magical + potions

[queen panther]

Uninstalling. Game is cooked. Wish you all the best.

[slim tulip]

next week

[fleet wolf]

just got back to the game after a year, what are the gear limits? just loaded in a game and 0-24 clearly isnt a thing anymore..

[limpid merlin]

Check out the announcements tab. Should have all the info you’re looking for

[uneven cairn]

+962994+624629999999999994-09.6

[sonic maple]

I like pie!

[dreamy moon]

Destroy us all!

[fleet wolf]

what the fuck did they do to this game

[limpid merlin]

Lots bogus shit tbh

[fleet wolf]

did they change who was in charge or smth??

[old latch]

Who is hyped for patch!!!

[trim owl]

remove forming a party in solos bc i qued up for solos not trios tf every pvp its one guy with a full party tf is this shit

[unreal stirrup]

i'm pretty hyped but i'd probably spend all weekend playing dnd either way

[limpid merlin]

This fr^

[slim tulip]

Well didn't you guys wanted solo Q, there it is, have fun

[wide reef]

nda

[slim tulip]

is not like people weren't teaming before

[unreal stirrup]

game is more balanced in trios. now solos is more like trios but solo queue random team which is dope

[slim tulip]

Yeah bro SDF wires me 1000$ every time i send a comment in this chat

[trim owl]

they werent as bad as it is now every fight its either a duo or a tio with a party formed

[timber imp]

Sdf wants you to party in dungeon or run for your livessss

[slim tulip]

and why aren't you forming teams with other people you see in the dungeon? or are you one of those KoS'ers that only knows to be an attack bot?

[timber imp]

@slim tulip hey leave him alone you bully 😠

[slim tulip]

Wahh i didn't bought the game to play alongside other people Wahh all i want to do is crush little timmies in dungeon wahh everyone else is a "bad" and that's why i only play solo wahh i don't know how to socialize wahh

[fringe granite]

What is going on with bro

[unreal stirrup]

i respect the opinion of anyone that says they dont like the current state of solos but im having a lot of fun

[haughty nexus]

How's the game looking legal wise? cooked or naa

Will there even be a dad to play in the future?

[slim tulip]

wdym legal wise? they won the lawsuit, they were force to pay something just because of some technicalities but they are disputing that

[haughty nexus]

U call that outcome They Won ?

[timber imp]

The game is basically solo, it's so dead you only see 1 guy the whole game

[fringe granite]

No clue until it actually happens.

[slim tulip]

is not an "outcome" they literally won the legal case, if not they could have ended up in prison

[fleet wolf]

are the boss drop rates lower in pve?

[haughty nexus]

And you sure nexon isn't trying to take it further.

[slim tulip]

yes

[slim tulip]

the legal case is over. IM is currently disputing about the money they have to pay, nexon can just dispute that, the main case is already over

[haughty nexus]

What's pop looking like anyway?

[slim tulip]

it's funny how much everyone keeps saying "cant wait for arc raiders to release" when is made from that scumbag company

[crimson sonnet]

bring back name tags next patch ffs

[slim tulip]

people from this community* majority of people here are just sheeps with 0 loyalty to anything

[fringe granite]

Why’re you pledging loyalty to a company and a video game

[slim tulip]

I just hate Nexon, they made good games and slowly start to kill them from the inside, just maintaining people because of nostalgia bait. look at the state of Maplestory.

[weary herald]

im killing normal mobs and they count as elite grade for quest

[naive coral]

Removed druid when?

[smoky jetty]

bring back solos

[slim tulip]

when dark and darker 2 releases in 3 years

druid was release more than a year ago, it has been confirmed for a long time that SDF mains the class and people still have the balls to insinuate that the class is gonna be deleted lmao

[spark hedge]

when remove teaming from solos?? its stupid

[eager prawn]

my favorite part is druid is entirely decided by sdf and he plays the class, and not only does he play the class, but he is also really ass at the class too

so he randomly decides to buff it when HE specifically gets shit on with the class

[slim tulip]

Yeah SDF so lame man, imagine not dedicating 50+ hours per week to grind his druid skills, bro has to lock in and start no-lifing this game. His game

[eager prawn]

skinny pete literally has a arena game WITH SDF with him playing druid, and his gameplay consists of "i jump on them as panther and if i dont kill them instantly i die"

and somehow this guy who is ass at one of the best classes in the game decides how that class functions ingame

LMAO

[spark hedge]

its absurd and sad

[eager prawn]

ur fukn tellin me buster

[neat haven]

he plays ranger now,

[eager prawn]

no that just doesnt track because if he played ranger then quiver will be done within 2 weeks
from when he starts playing ranger so maybe its still in timeline

[spark hedge]

he need play all clases, he need know all about all classes, its the freaking developer

[karmic spade]

if anything barbs need to be deleted or skill required

[eager prawn]

naw bro he just hops in and does whatever he wants, are we new here?

[neat haven]

theres a vod of him dying to pve shortly sfter 6.5. 4 hours and no extractions. all ranger.

[eager prawn]

sounds about right

[neat haven]

its fine for a lead dev not to main line the game. But they need better testers

[wary ice]

so true

[eager prawn]

if the lead dev (the collective direction of the game) decides maybe he has some ideas, thats fine
but if he wants the game to function a certain way from a skill direction, he is out of his mind

[neat haven]

to avoid the very predictable pitfalls they fall into. Then again i've got enough juice for at least one more copium pill in season 7

[fading elk]

we thinking update tn

[eager prawn]

the game always updates the minute ppl actually want to play it 3am drunk and off there ass

[neat haven]

@eager prawn yo skill don't matter. Yang Wenli gets killed by cultists.

[eager prawn]

sdf gets killed by white skeletons but still has 100 percent control over the games direction

its wtvr at this point

sdf has a leafy chin and somehow has this game in an iron fist

[neat haven]

Its IM not sdf. The whole company has made this mess. They're all timmys

[eager prawn]

WHAT PART OF WHAT IM SAYING NEEDS TO BE CENSORED HOLY (IM NOT BREAKING A SINGLE RULE? I HIT 1 BUZZ WORD

all i said is it is most certainly NOT the team, it is just SDF he is a control freak no matter what company he works for

[spark hedge]

im excited by the new water map, i have hope to be a nice content

[lyric creek]

😅 you're in some guys garden yelling about what he's trying to grow

[eager prawn]

im in some guys garden who used to grow pears, he now grows fynt disguised as pears who wonders why he is getting less sellers. ALL I WANT IS PEARS!

[spark hedge]

o_o

[toxic charm]

no patch?

[neat haven]

With out a doubt it's the team. Sdf is just a part of it.

the only guy putting in good consistent work is the module/map team

[toxic charm]

Nerf ranger just tired of being 2 tapped by Longbow

[spark hedge]

what are u talking about a patch? no one announcement

[vivid shadow]

anyone know if mystical gems any good this patch

[night relic]

does antimagic just not show up on the stat screen or is it bugged or?

[spark hedge]

@night relic Not displayed in the lobby or during the game, idk why

[night relic]

does it work then?

[spark hedge]

im sure u cannot see it in game (if u can check it)

[night relic]

im debating dropping it if my mdr doesn't actually go up, in one case in the stat screen it went down when I put it on

[spark hedge]

@night relic idk , maybe is appart of magic resist because holy dmg is magic dmg and not count in that perk

[night relic]

ah that would make sense

[spark hedge]

but warlock is a good magic tank

you are weak to magic when u use phantomise but only AOE spells

[night relic]

jaja

[fading elk]

Well ig the update is tomorrow

[night relic]

handshaking gone from solos?

[fading elk]

Nope not yet

[night relic]

amazing devs...

[fading elk]

Sadly

[spark hedge]

@fading elk bro what are u talking about, no one say nothing about a update

[fading elk]

It’s been a week thought they would release one

[remote sonnet]

Nahh this game fucked

[fringe granite]

Would like to note SDF is the one responsible for hiring the team, at least originally

[remote sonnet]

Devs got a degrading kink fs

[spark hedge]

i have hope, but is hard

[remote sonnet]

Proof it’s hard?

[spark hedge]

what u mean

[remote sonnet]

Lmao

[spark hedge]

im not telling to you, your wrong im just telling i have hope in the game, dnd have a incredible potential

[remote sonnet]

Yeah I was saying show us your meat the joke obviously flew past you

[spark hedge]

wtf man

[remote sonnet]

You must be a foreigner

[spark hedge]

yes, im not english native

[remote sonnet]

Makes sense

[earnest current]

we all foreiner and different country but we are gamer , we are the same , and F U ironmace stop nerf rogue

[remote sonnet]

👍

[weary herald]

what the fuck is even wrong with the game?

[sonic maple]

Nerf rogue!

[thin bear]

Patch today?

[weary herald]

tell me exactly what,,all i see is bitching skill issue but no constructive opinion of what is actually specifically wrong with the game

[timber brook]

I've given my opinion multiple times but can't be asked anymore. Not like my opinion has any weight here lol

[tropic rapids]

anyone else getting infinite reconnect loops? I went from ruins to crypts dced us and now me and buddy cant reconnect lol.

[atomic galleon]

[cunning jolt]

I hoped so but it should have started already

[atomic galleon]

Oogaa booga

[weary herald]

no you dont have any opinion or exact reasons why the game is bad ,,ppl hate just out of spite at this point they dont even know why

[atomic galleon]

Getting molested by barb seems illogical to them

[pseudo prawn]

"Teaming in solos" feature says it all

[weary herald]

thats a skill issue

[atomic galleon]

Mika vista dezz nuts

[timber brook]

You are a professional ragebaiter lol. What would make this game better imo- is more "special" items which could be obtained in different ways or overall new points of interests with actual reasons to go there instead of every single player having a gang bang at boss. This would add more variables to the game instead of making it the third party fuck fest it is right now. You kill boss, one team rushes in, you kill them and get rushed right after by next.

[atomic galleon]

[weary herald]

thats why its a hardcore game

[timber brook]

by special items i'm talking about stuff similar to "lesser-artefacts" like hazeblade and stuff. Nothing too crazy- but still unique. Like- maybe give wraith some custom armor pieces they can drop so ppl don't also just avoid them aswell on their way to boss. Give us more to do.

[weary herald]

doubt that feature in solos will be kept moving onward ,,they should keep it in duos and trios..in duos up to max 2 count

[weary herald]

they buffed the miniboss loot you can get uniques from them often

[cunning jolt]

lie

[timber brook]

You're a professional ragebaiter lmao. wouldn't even take anything away from the game. Would just satisfy more people. If people still wanna pvp they can still look for ppl. Nothing is taken away aslong as the stuff they add isn't too over the top with balancing.

[weary herald]

its not

[pseudo prawn]

I think they just wouldn't bring back duos

[cunning jolt]

only mini boss worth killing is skele champ for the key drop

[timber brook]

I can recall getting 1 unique arming sword from champ this wipe. one. not a single other unique from any subboss. be it centair, berserker, wraith, champ.

[weary herald]

if they would the handshake should be only in duos max to max count 2 like i said and trios

[cunning jolt]

I feel like the key rooms are already a good poi but keys are so outrageously overpriced because of their rarity. If keys dropped way more often and were actually usable then boom there you go, a couple extra pois right there.

[weary herald]

i got many uniques from sub bosses from nightmare cent as well champ too wraith too

[timber brook]

Well- not really. People use them as a "placeholder" for their currency cause they are rare, but not that rare. So it would bring some issues possibly if they made them more common. And before someone suggests adding more gold storage or stuff- Just no. Gold doesn't need to be hoarded. its to be used.

[pseudo prawn]

Makes sense, but the vision...

[weary herald]

but all of these are just minor adjustments and suggestion that dont reflect at why everyone t hinks the game is bad

[timber brook]

I still feel like they need to add more poi to the game. (not anything even remotely similar to key rooms. cause keys will always be expensive and chances of making profit with using them is slim.)

[timber brook]

Yeah I'm not satisfying this ragebaiter anymore

[cunning jolt]

I feel like gold storage in this game is such a joke. They should make bags and such way more attainable or just do away with coins showing up in the inventory at all. Such a stupid part of the game

[weary herald]

at all...totally insignificant ..tell me something that is actually bad with the game now,,if youre fast,,and have movements..you can overcome anyone

[weary herald]

im not a ragebaiter nor need to satisfy my self with anything ,,im just speaking the truth directly how it is

[cunning jolt]

200% headshot damage

[weary herald]

faster ttk is better,,if you get hit with headshots that means youre not dodging correctly enough and if youre not landing themnot aiming trying enough ,,whats the point of before when i had to hit barb 10 times to kill them with a dagger

[pseudo prawn]

Some people don't like movespeed system in the game

[weary herald]

i think the ms is balanced now

[cunning jolt]

Ok but bigger weapons are overtuned and overpowered now. daggers are practically useless and rogue without short sword is kinda unplayable unless you run into players with no gear or go super geared yourself

[gusty sierra]

So, looks like they losing the appeal and may shut down all, gg wp

[weary herald]

depends on your kit

[sinful gull]

can we pls get the patch before nexon takes DaD down..

[weary herald]

ye halberd and bardiches are a bit op

[cunning jolt]

Not just op. Its literally all anyone is using in the game rn

[thin bear]

When patch?

[weary herald]

daggers are good if you run thrust and weak point with ambush and land headshots you can kill geared fighters barb very quickly ,,,ye ofc halberds and bardiches scale the most with the increased headshot multiplier

[gusty sierra]

probably not, sadge

[weary herald]

there shuda been some perma reward from the huntress ,,guy has like 50 quests to complete

[cunning jolt]

ok but by your own logic if they play well, dont allow you to get close and hit a headshot, its game over instantly for rogue

[weary herald]

what do you mean they re also meleee

[weary herald]

you can do anything you want as a rog

[bright latch]

@sdf how does it feel suffering the consequences of your own actions. The game you made is going to be shut down because of you, thief.

[weary herald]

but the most ideal playstyle is now landmine while they run at your team but you can also run down,,its all situational

[near jasper]

Where you getting this from?

[barren trellis]

He probably doesnt give a damn, he made easy money

[near jasper]

People are talking about lawsuit stuff but I can't find any news on it?

[bright latch]

Lmao he is going through criminal court soon with a potential of jail time. So probably starting to give a damn. Stayed here for a long time but can't support this game anymore.

[pseudo prawn]

Maybe these people are IM's lawyers

[bright latch]

The Korean news reported this.

[humble crown]

removing party members names is cancer

[near jasper]

Any links anywhere?

[bright latch]

Nexon wants the whole game shut down and to own the rights.

[bright latch]

You can watch the Lorr new video he has links in there

[near jasper]

Ok

[gusty sierra]

Them both (IM and Nexon) literally have to do a presentation 40min long, 'this is how our game isn't like their game' and vice versa. if i understood we might have no game to play by next month.

[cunning jolt]

I really want them to make the animation for putting your hand away significantly longer. I know you have to pull your weapon out now but so many times i go up to a rogue or druid and they just whip the dagger out or form change instantly and kill me. Faking wanting to team up should not be the optimal strategy if you really want to encourage this mechanic

[cunning jolt]

Honestly i hope nexon ends dark and darker so i can stop playing this god forsaken game. So garbage

[sinful gull]

SDF will be like: "no no no.. P3 didnt have soloQ and item rolls, we take a very different approach here at IM!"

[uneven cairn]

i hope nexon wins this times, payback

[old cave]

My vision is to steal materials and make shity games i enjoy alone

[odd grail]

Hey folks I bought the game from epic and migrated to black smith how can I make refund if there’s a way

[wooden lichen]

Here's a joke for you.
A Wizard walks into a bar, at the bar are a Barbarian, a Druid, and a Sorcerer.

[odd grail]

Go on

[wooden lichen]

I would but the Wizard is dead on the ground since he had no hope of competing with those 3

[odd grail]

Interesting

[magic ledge]

anyone thinks they'll bring back solos and duos?

[dapper mortar]

prob not duos

[woeful tartan]

where patch, where solos

[hallow mango]

next month brother

[woeful tartan]

@zinc sparrow any info ? anythink ?

[hallow mango]

@zinc sparrow is way to busy dont you understand how imprtant he is ans how hard is is to keep his bowl cut kept? jesus man

[oblique quartz]

Watch out for this scumbag team killer https://medal.tv/games/dark-and-darker/clips/kKSelJnQFu59aY7mt?invite=cr-MSxweXosMzQ5NTcyOA Supremeroachoverlord

[barren trellis]

He said his job is harder than a manual labor job, cut him some slack damn

[silver smelt]

But it's true.
He has to work with SDF

[barren trellis]

Good point:))

[sweet thunder]

Hey guys I just started demon souls

What should I do first

[carmine vigil]

play

[sweet thunder]

Ok

What are these zombie looking things

[dapper mortar]

pretty sure there is a demon souls discord

[sweet thunder]

Oh my bad chat

Wait what is a dnd

[worldly wedge]

Can you censor it --》j*b

[outer grail]

i disagree, joke only applies to crybabies

[wooden lichen]

its understandable that the joke goes over a sorcerer's head

[dim siren]

Nexon kiling the game? YAY!

[tropic tangle]

where is todays patch?

[tame elbow]

teaming available in solos

Nexon will win, i want my 30 bucks back, 4 months ago and the game is STILL THE SAME, any content, neither the new map, they are lying they dont have 20-80 devs, its only sdf and graysun making a map with blender and all assets bought with our money, like the big one and the cerberus from inferno, literally a scam. NEXUS WILL WIN, GIVE MONEY BAKC AND DONT KEEP SCAMMING

[gusty sierra]

Next month there might be no game at all, check about Nexons appeal. Gg wp

[tame elbow]

I STARTED developing my own game with HEARING AND RESPECTING COMMUNITY OPINIONS AND DONT INTRODUCE ZONE AND FOG TWICE ONLY BECOUSE IM THE ONLY PERSON I WANT IT

[minor sequoia]

why did they remove gear insurance?

[patent jolt]

No patch??

[peak shore]

I hope so

[quartz salmon]

Is dungeonborne nexon game. Cause it failed terribly

[quartz salmon]

Why do you play it if u think it's bad? Lol

[outer grail]

im a wiz main :/

[graceful drift]

does anyone know what's going on?
the game has started to lag mercilessly
yesterday, like other days, everything was fine even on ultra
now nothing helps to speed it up

[wooden lichen]

if you were a wiz main you would know how much of an atrocious matchup he has against the meta classes

im not saying wizard is bad but it is so hard to beat all these barbs and druids running you down
and sorcerer just straight up being a better wizard

[graceful drift]

why is the game so unstable, everything is fine for a couple of months
and at some point it just starts to lag unbearably
I constantly invest in the computer
I AM ALREADY PLAYING ON 16 GB OF RAM

[scarlet thistle]

You need 32gb

[nova jetty]

No solos update? Really. Wow

[nova jetty]

I agree wizard matchups are difficult. But sorc is not better. Checks and balances.

Sorc has better kiting, but if you’re a good wizard and hit your spells, you out dps anyone other than ranger.

[winter tinsel]

Meme beam with 150% magical power would like to have a word with you

[nova jetty]

No way people are dying to that

[winter tinsel]

You’d be surprised. It’s all about making them believe I don’t have it. Then huzzah! When they least expect it

[nova jetty]

Gotchu. It’s a good finisher but anyone with thumbs will just break LOS or turn on ya

[winter tinsel]

Yeah I have to lure them to an open space. It works on ranged the best, not so much on unga bunga melees

[weary herald]

YOU GET GEAR BACK NOW EVEN IF YOU FALL INTO THE ABYSS?

[nova jetty]

Yeah I can see people panicking. If you don’t panicked it’s an easy headshot on the caster

[patent jolt]

where is the patch that brings back real solo/duo ques?

[elfin atlas]

there is a chance in amonth dnd is fully closed

[nova jetty]

I doubt any patch will come since new map is released soon. Which makes zero sense imo cuz solos is memeably bad. But what do I know, I’m just at 2.5k hours

[winter tinsel]

Eh yea kinda. You can still wiggle around and do the fancy feet while beaming but u right

[elfin atlas]

they getting sued even harder apparantly in august 28 there is a chance they have to cloe dnd thats what i heard

[patent jolt]

pretty tired of running squire rn due to not wanting to lose 10k kits to trios with 30k kits in soloque lol

[nova jetty]

I’d love them to dive into dark magic more with warlock. Warlock just doesn’t feel like an actual warlock. He’s so weird.

They need to take weapons away from demon form like in release. Have Will and HP scale his damage. That way you build like a mage, but can be a brawler in demon form.

[winter tinsel]

Play ice caves. Not as many sweaty trios, more new players

[sullen mesa]

This one right here

[patent jolt]

I wish arena was open at least

[nova jetty]

Who cares about money. It’s semi wipe. You can make that back quick going into HR 2 runs.

[patent jolt]

it's about the playing experience, and imagine going arenas 1v3. It's just not fun

[winter tinsel]

I agree. Would be dope! It’d be cool if all the OG classes got a lil care package too tbh

[nova jetty]

I’ve been queuing up solo into trios. If I’m going to be vs squads, then I might as well queue for it.

Just play like a complete PoS and never fully commit till you’re 3rd partying.

[nova jetty]

Yup fr.

IMO they need to stay away from MS on gear. A good way to do this is to give each class some type of movement capability. This will give the conditional spacing tools, rather than flat constant MS from gear.

This will immediately stop the insta stat checking, while offer more skill overall when baiting/engaging.

[oak topaz]

Nexon?
Lmao i dont think shooting a ded corpse is killing but ok

[trim geode]

Solo queue back, slight nerf to Warlock abusers. Time to update the game it seems. A step in the right direction.

[nova jetty]

They’re pulling a Nintendo. Trying to bleed Ironmace with legal fees. Typical “big fish eats small fish” thang

[sullen mesa]

Warlock abusers ??... Ohh you play barb.......

[winter tinsel]

If they go that route then Ms needs to be much more tightly controlled. I know it’s polarizing but I actually enjoyed Ms on everything. It gave melees more of a chance instead of the ranged dominant kite and kiter meta we’ve always had

[trim geode]

blocked, no time for creatures lurking in the shadows

[oak topaz]

I dmed u the msg since This server is heavily censored lmao

[sullen mesa]

" creatures lurking in the shadows " LOL, we've got reddits greatest neckbeard over here

[nova jetty]

I loved that melee had a chance. However, stat bloat makes for gear-check gameplay and downplays skill.
Many people enjoy being able to just stat-check people cuz “my gear better so I should win.”

I find that soooo boring. Even if I have great gear I should have to tread carefully.

They should look for balance that allows for melee and range to both have conditional uses depending on the situation. MS IMO does not suffice well enough as a constant. It just becomes a W-key adventure then.

Things like sprint/spellshield are great in theory because they let you close the gap and potential get dmg off while you engage. I like that type of route better overall. This way you have something to play around instead of “hehe full plate 330 swing swing”

[warm ingot]

No patch? Another week of teaming

[elfin atlas]

Its okay i kil lwarlord alone 3 people running in to the room

i like how we went from teaming being bannable to suppor teaming 10 / 10

[warm ingot]

Ban guy left so had to implement teaming feature

[thick notch]

Its ur tine to shine, take it and be a pro, 1v3 and got the best video of your life

[winter tinsel]

You’re making too much sense. You right tho, there were def some drawbacks to MS on all like raising the barrier of entry. I’m sure most ppl didn’t enjoy it especially with the perma MS cap builds being so oppressive

[elfin atlas]

hmmm i think its possible to 1 v 3 pre teaming people with a barb healer cleric and a fighter

also i dont know i killed 25 bosses and i didnt get a single skull key or golden key on hr i got a cinder tho but thats just luck

[formal sequoia]

what a trio of tanks

[tropic tangle]

i like how is the game acctually, just the teaming in solos is kancer

[nova jetty]

When gear equates to trumping skill so harshly, that leads to people quitting since they’re efforts of getting better skill-wise dont lets them bridge the gap of a grinder who hasn’t stood up in a week.

Not to mentioned the amount of real moolah trading that comes with that.

If clash Royale has taught us anything, it’s that people will pay for the slightest advantage. A game like this? Yeah people will drop a dime to flex

[nova jetty]

I’d drop the one-taps to 2-taps and I’d be good. Like leave 5 HP for a bit of counter pay or something.

Even when I hop on barb/warlock it’s so boring to go bonk… oh… alright. Good fight?

[elfin atlas]

hop on rogue after the changes trust

[winter tinsel]

I agree. Some things are a bit overtuned still but overall it’s been feeling good. Been running my old hydrain build and it’s actually been working in this meta

[sinful gull]

Yeah.. I feel it too.. our time will come once again, but please have non invis builds be viable again instead of making hide rogue more busted

[elfin atlas]

agree non invis rogue is actually skilled not rating

[sullen mesa]

I like hide rouge 🙉

[cunning canopy]

No patch this week? not even fixing solos?

[sinful gull]

I expect slight dagger buffs and attributes back into str/vig or dex at least.. rapier buff would help too, but I dont think thats what they should do necessarily, cause we dont want rondel fighter back and all that.. Id change dagger perk to +5 wpn dmg instead

[sullen mesa]

That is legit how that class is ment to be played, its not called kangaroo lol

[sullen mesa]

Yea the dagger nerfs were goofy

[elfin atlas]

you are wrong kai revived not gonna lie XD

[nova jetty]

Rework weapon mastery into multiple different masteries with actual effects.

[elfin atlas]

its like saying warlock should just be ranged and not be able to play melee

[nova jetty]

They are, but rogue can 2 tap with short sword without having to take dagger perks… so rogues are sorta winning overall.

[sullen mesa]

Only rondel should be less damage to off put the infinite dps loop

[elfin atlas]

one tap who ?

[sullen mesa]

Bro what ? yea you dont play rouge

[nova jetty]

I do. I literally went and tried it out and 2 tapped cloth wearers. 3 tapped leather. And beat barb/fighter with spacing.

Sorry for your loss

[sullen mesa]

I guess we're talking about diffrent games here or something

[nova jetty]

What issue are you having?

[sullen mesa]

Dying to a gust of wind

[sinful gull]

Im not a pure rogue thats why I know invis is just not the way.. just wins by default against 30% of classes w 0 skill and is useless against others. We should not make classes this specific in terms of matchups.."tanky" rogue and mosquito should both be viable.. tanky rogue shouldnt have 180hp and 50% pdr, yeah i get it.. but currently its a joke vs Longsword or diche/halberd.. bruiser rogue is the heathiest rogue build from other classes pov.. Invis should exist but not as a landmine thing

[nova jetty]

Then your spacing is off. You know you’re gonna be one shot, so make sure you get your damage off faster.

Double jump helps a BUNCH now due to damage changes. If you can get them to hit your toes while you hit their head they’re cooked easy.

[vast prawn]

Play pickpocket like a real mof****a

[sinful gull]

pickpocket is bis

[nova jetty]

Rogue needs a full rework IMO.

Add an item wheel for traps/potions/poisons. add a better movement ability. Then make their invis based off pots or darkness, not just magically disappearing.

As of now rogue is “all in and win” or “all in and die.”

Obviously a good movement player will be more mosquitoe-like. But that’s about 5-10% of them. The vast majority just use invis. And with the headshot dmg increases and lower hp, being 2tapped from invis is approaching landmine territory.

[sinful gull]

yeah that is true... its allways tough to discuss what to buff/nerf cause the kit itself is just scuffed, Its the kit that tells you to go landmine/portalcamp cause its just the only thing that makes sense. The only movement ability IS the invis, so currently when I wanna play a non "landminebuild" i still use invis for ambush lol.. just feels terribly designed

[nova jetty]

Yup. In trios it’s okay balance-wise. But in any other game mode it sucks for either the rogue or who the rogue is against. A full rework to better suit all dimensions of gameplay would be best.

Think there’s been a suggestion on the dark and darker forum that has a bunch of upvotes. Came out of 2 years ago and it’s still a great design change

[leaden peak]

no patch notes ?

[nova jetty]

Nah, we’re close to wipe so they prob won’t put any out until then. Usually the case, anyways.

[leaden peak]

huh ain't even that close

[nova jetty]

I thought it was start of August? I could be mistaken

[karmic granite]

They need to do a patch and put gamertags back on for teammates

[leaden peak]

no don't think so

I think mid August

[viral lotus]

I thought they were delaying it till late August

[nova jetty]

It’s grown on me. Definitely sucks if they want random queue to be in game. But overall, I like the feel of no names.

Just give us way better sashes

[wooden harness]

2.6 k players lovely

[civic elk]

hey hey, would handled items dropped in arena?

[karmic granite]

It’s not good when there’s 3 different Druids and they’re all in animal form it makes zero sense

[nova jetty]

That’s more of a Druid issue than it is the name issue. Even before the name removal, Druids need something to discern them from one another

[leaden peak]

if nexon wins the case in August dark and darker it's gone

[white magnet]

save your money until Thanksgiving, don't pay this company more until they shape up

[nova jetty]

Not at all how that case goes. As of now IM is just appealing the fine they were hit with.

[leaden peak]

nexon was not happy with the money they going to high quart in agust

[karmic granite]

Game will die by the end of the year. They have over 50k people playing last year and they’ve ruined the game

[quartz salmon]

Answer me guys XD

[glad pebble]

nexon will kill it first lol

[nova jetty]

Nexon lost on far more of the case than IM did.

Appeal court is for the fine on the “stolen intellectual property” of SDF.

Basically, this part of the case is stating that since SDF had knowledge of the inner workings of Nexon, then went to IM. He is making illegal use of trade secrets.

In the Us, Nexon loses hard due to a previous case of Mattel vs MGA. Korean law is different though, and hasn’t had a case like that. So it’s fair game for both parties.

[outer grail]

i understand where you are coming from, but the reason why i like playing wizard is because its hard to play. think about it on their side, who is having more fun. the barbarian who presses w and 2 skills? or the wiz invis juking tryna hit spells, i have a crazy vid of me 1v1ing skinnypete while trash talking him in gc and beating him with only 3hp left.

with druids, them having 2 dashes was absolutley dumm and i needed a break w/ that. one dash is doable if u are next to a railing to stand on. bc using basic knowledge of hitboxes the panthers cant reach u unless they r jumping if not they will be hitting toes with does minimized dmg. sorcerer is ez just play against cooldowns.

[verbal oriole]

WTAF IS THE POINT OF "SOLO"!?

[sinful gull]

wating for the patch today!

[old latch]

There's no patch today buddy