game-discussion

[cloud wave]

give 1 speed back to the Lace Shoes. You literally made them worse than boots of skill+dexterity. (they were already worse, but you killed them permanently by removing the bonus).
Today, I realized that the best option for balancing the classes is to give the slayer a separate weapon, such as a pair of swords that can only be worn together and cannot be worn separately. This will allow you to balance the damage in the left hand and adjust the length of attacks, animations, and so on. https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/652699/slayer-new-class-development VOTED UP press please, thank you. (my suggestion doesn't mean I want to introduce all these changes, it's just hints in what direction to go) I apologize if you have already read this text. We need to collect more votes=).
Increase the damage of the knight's sword and short sword! Or create a pair of weapons for the slayer. We demand the introduction of crafting options for knight swords and short swords! an artifact for left-handed weapons, is also necessary. The vampire blade is of no use in pvp.

[tame quarry]

I was actually providing knowledge to someone asking for an explanation of how the physical dmg, true dmg and weapon damage operate in game. Maybe you joining in late?

[hardy stump]

I scrolled up to get context, felt like you were asking

[livid onyx]

They were explaining that the info is in the character sheet, if you scroll down it will do the math for you and let you know what damage each of your weapons swings will do

As weapon combos also have damage modifiers of their own

[azure sedge]

S adistic D runken F ailure

[tame quarry]

Awesome, that helps

[livid onyx]

Definitely a W change, being able to know exactly what damage I'm dealing without whipping out the calculator is nice. Ironmace doesn't get enough credit for all of the QoL changes they've added to the game imo.

[proper parrot]

the training has been in development for 3 years common do something with it

[hardy stump]

that is also one of main reasons why so many newbies quit, they have zero idea what to do

Mistfal Hunter did theirs great, showing all the basics and then throwing you on the map with that knowledge

[opal schooner]

bold of you to assume theyre actually developing anything

[hardy stump]

even text+pictures tutorual of dungeonborne was vastly superior to DaDs.... mage saying newbie to fuck off

[unreal agate]

Negative behaviour detected! put a smile on that frown!

[opal schooner]

Just calling it like i see it knowimean

[hardy stump]

while I hate forced tutorials, it baffles me that in todays time, developers still do not realize the importance of smooth onboarding process

[livid onyx]

I assume we'll see something in the new wipe centered around training, would be cool to gain like Undead damage bonus for slaying 1000 skeletons/zombies or something, or become more proficient at looting and gain luck for opening alot of golden chest ect.

[full dome]

lol

[hardy stump]

I firmly believe you're giving them too much credit here

[cosmic raven]

I expected to get on dark and darker and hate it. Got on and I’m actually having fun. Now that gear and limited solos is back it’s playable and the game feels way more balanced rn. Last wipe I was running like 150+ warlock with max MS glad that abomination isn’t doable anymore

[unreal agate]

You are 1 of SO MANY who enjoy the game right now! its great to hear! don't forget to check out the shop within the game for cool and unique skins!

[spring sky]

whos paying these 2 cornballs? ^

[small inlet]

theyre bots just like the player count in game is

[spring sky]

sdf is having a ego battle with himself at this point now i regret supporting him and not nexon

[small inlet]

the devs are shadey they do not care what the players think about the game

[hardy stump]

remove +all, +hp rolls and game will be in great spot balance-wise, start implementing content instead of flip flopping on balance numbers and it'll start growing most likely

[unreal agate]

they firstly need to add duos as that was a big portion of the game still and remove teaming in solos / duos if they bring it back

[earnest cliff]

Go play The Finals, or Arc Raiders when it drops if you wanna support them

[small inlet]

i hope to god no devs read what you say and think its a good idea

[unreal agate]

ignore this comment, this person is real AI xD

[earnest cliff]

+all and true damage are the main balance problem

[small inlet]

1 blocked message - show no thanks

[spring sky]

if they had this game they would have added 3x more content instead of the same maps for the past 2 years

[hasty marlin]

Guys we're getting quivers and auto sort QoL next week confirmed, im HYPED!

[small inlet]

you can get a max of +3 all and +7 true its beyond balanced that makes little difference to removing it entirely

[livid onyx]

Idk things like squire, goldsmith, Expressman, goblin recovery (please bring this back to normals)
These are just a few examples of things that greatly improved the game loop overall and made getting into the dungeon and running it back again and again a lot easier and less time consuming. I get far more actual games in without having to deal with the loadouts or marketplace.
Marketplace is also a great example, I remember having to sit in trade for 10 minutes to find a blue cuirass with a decent roll, if any roll at all because gear used to legitimately have a 50% not to roll one of each of its potential rolls.
Gear is better now, while not giving as much of a gap in stats, 1v3ing on a class like rogue in base kit is much more likely even it is still difficult and unlikely, but it was impossible on prior patches and wipes vs anyone with a brain.

[small inlet]

I believe in hardcore extraction games anything to make it easier is a bad thing, those things ruined the economy when they were in the game. Only thing like that they should keep is shared tab

[livid onyx]

It mainly made it easier to get into a game, not made the actual gameplay easier, I died to a single nightmare swordsman headshot last night. Lmao

[earnest cliff]

+3all is a ton, +7 true is an additional 34%, unmitigatable increase to damage of a UNIQUE survival bow

[small inlet]

I agree the game is in a bad state but making hardcore games easier for new players doesnt increase the player count, it does the opposite. Thats why a lot of the OG rust players dont play the game anymore they made it too easy to get in to

[earnest cliff]

And yet rust is not suffering due to it. The opposite, in fact

[livid onyx]

Goblin recovery was good at lowering the gold inflation which isn't a good thing, devaluing the gold players make takes time away from players actually progressing unless they find "bis" not everyone wants to play the slot machine, but I still think it's okay to have mechanics that add rarity and variety like random rolls, I just don't like when theyre too strong, like the return of max health rolls was not a W imo

[small inlet]

no bc they drop content once a month thats why that game is popular

[sudden shuttle]

Let's talk about the horrible sound quality in parts of the map.

[unreal agate]

dont nerf the surv bow true dmg build!

[small inlet]

whens the last content update we got in this game? 6 months+

[livid onyx]

I'm not overly worried about content progress, I play project zomboid a wildly successful indie game that always missed deadlines for 10+ years xD

When the content is good, it's worth the wait. I'll hold the line in the meantime

[small inlet]

a lot of people play the game when its good its just not good rn lol

[true turtle]

Is sdf an abbreviation of "Super Dumb F*ck"? because that would explain the state of the game and his delusion.

[livid onyx]

I can agree that the game overall doesn't have a lot to come back for once you get in a groove. After a while you're rich and the only thing left to do is make insanely strong kits and lose them xD

[granite copper]

why are there so many druids in arena now

[small inlet]

the player count will never be up to 20k again

[small inlet]

ive tried building crazy kits this wipe and nothing feels like it did in season 2-4

[granite copper]

honestly all druid players need to rope

[past lark]

i hope nexon wins the rights so we can have actual cosmetics and not this pre made unity slop

[small inlet]

SDF had to buff druid because hes a timmy

[livid onyx]

My rogue kits feel pretty good even in blues/purples, the class feels better than season 6 for sure, no more 330 move speed 180+ health shenanigans. Im a frail rogue who assassinates back lines and front lines all the same.

[small inlet]

The game was better before druid and sorc

[sudden shuttle]

Rogues do feel good for sure but for the movement it seems different. Seeing fighters keep up with 300 movement when I have 330.

[hardy stump]

a very W-key take

[tepid quiver]

whats the best rnager chest peice to use rk

[small inlet]

theyve spent 2 years trying to balance the game for sorc and druid

[small inlet]

i got banned last time you replied to me i told you to wear your pfp on a t shirt

[hardy stump]

druid is in game for less than 1 year and sorc little over 6 months, sure they did

[livid onyx]

They definitely were the "power creep" classes, I only hope they actually raise the other classes up to their level, give me leap on barbarian and wall walking with rogue.

[small inlet]

they knew they were adding them both since playtest 2 before the "seasons"

[hardy stump]

sorc was beyond insane on release once people got to know storm and auto tracking not cancelled by LOS lightning, these were the times haha

[small inlet]

bro doesnt even know when the real times were lol wayyy before then

[azure panther]

does anyone know if luck actually does a fucking thing?

[split wadi]

Zomboid is such a fantastic game. Ive been watching and playing it off and on since their alpha

[tepid quiver]

oh yes i love currently wiating 5 years for the next build to have multiplayer to enojy the game with my friends

[indigo wagon]

@sdf can you please remove teaming in solos man

[livid onyx]

Playtest days we're fun and I miss old rogue having 5 base Will and -30% buff duration high-key character stats were so impactful, cleric with -56% interaction speed dying because you couldn't open a door in time. Now cleric smashes a door with one morning star hit. Love that change tbh

[indigo wagon]

PLEASE REMOVE TEAMING IN SOLO THIS IS NOT OK @glad thunder

[sudden shuttle]

Next week they will change it again o.0

[indigo wagon]

i truly wish misery on these devs they have ruined the only and last game i enjoy playing. sad

[small inlet]

No other dev team works like they do at ironmace if you even want to call it a team, its more of a dictatorship instead of shared intellect

[bitter citrus]

Next iteration of solos will be you start as a trio and people will have to volunteer to quit the team until only one remains.

[tepid quiver]

before or after they wipe the lobby

[indigo wagon]

ok 1 more try in solos i guess..

[bitter citrus]

before they can leave the starting module. doors are all locked til then

[sonic maple]

shake my wrinkled old hand

[obsidian flume]

HELLO IS SORCERER BUSTING OR WHAT? FEELS KINDA BUSTRED

[vocal citrus]

goblin recovery doesnt work in high roller right?

[tropic rain]

A average ranger can take down any sorcerer and druid

[livid onyx]

It only works in adventure mode

[small inlet]

yeah but who actually likes playing ranger its so cheesey

[tropic rain]

I am seeing many in arena. it's so disgusting. Im getting one tapped by longbow a lot of times as sorc, wiz and rogue

[gleaming monolith]

key to switch voice channel?

[fervent anvil]

alt f4

[mortal kraken]

Hii^^, I have 3 purchased stash. I have 12k gold in 50-packs, and they're taking up too much space. What can I spend it on or how can I make them take up less space? I'm a main druid, and I don't know how to spend the money or what to do with it.

[merry marlin]

where is the new frostone ore and pile in ice cave hell?

[tribal zodiac]

Wyvern lair, you have to kill her

[warm ingot]

The meta of the game is to get into a discord call with 2 people queue snipe and meet up and roll solo lobbies. who thought this through?

[merry marlin]

im pretty sure there's another spot now, fought some people after we'd killed wyvern and they hadnt mined any from the wyvern room but they had a stack on them

[tribal zodiac]

Oh, maybe throne room

[tall warren]

Your just bad

[gleaming monolith]

thx worked

[fervent anvil]

[compact thorn]

90 dmg from hr bola goblin is fkt up

[median salmon]

The brilliant new CEO of course.......

[zinc pollen]

when is season 7?

[spare charm]

so whats up with the whole solo gamemode returning?

[scarlet thistle]

Monday

[zinc pollen]

Trolllllll says late Aug

[proper thicket]

can we get nametags back ingame

[karmic granite]

When are they adding gamer tags in tired of druids bro

[zinc pollen]

never then people couldnt hide that makes no sense

[karmic granite]

I’m tired of trying to pvp on bridge and there be 5 different druids and idk which one is my teammate

[mild sinew]

where tf are my large and normal sized coffer chests IM

[ember arrow]

does it not give better loot

[visual gale]

LAMAOO\

YES LUCK WORKS JUJSSST NOT ALL THE TIME

..... see what i did there

[ember arrow]

tweaker.
fine joke tho

[dapper mortar]

kill them all

[scarlet thistle]

Why ask if you know

[plain python]

yo so my game keeps crashing on launch and keep getting out of memory errors. any help?

[scarlet thistle]

Your ram is cooked

[late ravine]

Why is random slot fill still removed if solos is back in the game?

[plain python]

its not my ram ive played this game for 500 hours awhile back?

plus i play other games that have no problem

[scarlet thistle]

Turn your wifi off and on

[livid onyx]

Gorblino not around to preteam with you anymore?

[stiff jackal]

will the devs add any more player banners?

[grand swallow]

Chat whats better max health +2 or mwx health bonus 1.8%

CHAT

[scarlet thistle]

%

[grand swallow]

Ty

[molten nexus]

lag or just my lobby

[vocal sluice]

whats the player count looking like?

[vast saffron]

Too high

[livid onyx]

It was around 5k last night up from the 2.5k 3 weeks ago xD

[edgy scarab]

its crazy how accommodating for solo players will do that to a player base xD

[vast saffron]

Gotta be underdeveloped to have that train of thought

[edgy scarab]

elaborate

[vast saffron]

I shouldn’t have to- figure it out gang

[edgy scarab]

elaborate

[livid onyx]

Guys wait I dropped my fedora I don't understand what's going on

[wanton fractal]

you know what my biggest gripe is. I can get down with the "vision" whatever not every game works out the way you want it was super fun before it was molested into oblivion but whatever. I dont care about the season must buy bullshit for extra space that comes with every extract game. The biggest fucking problem is the god damn stuttering every three seconds. I dont know if because the game is dead and mobs are easy to beat that they HAD TO ADD THE STUTTER SO I cant RUN AWAY FROM MOBS. but fix that shit and ill put up with the rest.

[bitter citrus]

It's a feature. Kinda like bullet time.

[livid onyx]

Check your command prompt and do a ping test to Google rn

[wanton fractal]

LMAO

[low mica]

Leaked footage of new solos: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/s/sn02ArZsPE

[wanton fractal]

brother my wifi speed test is 100mbs

[livid onyx]

Okay I don't care about speed I care about latency and packet loss for stuttering

[wanton fractal]

where would that be

[livid onyx]

Type cmd in the windows search bar, then type "ping google.com"

[bitter citrus]

New solos is going to be 1 player in an empty square room with one skeleton. "The community wanted 1v1s so me being the benevolent lead dev/president/ceo of sdfville, I decided to bless you all."

[livid onyx]

It will tell you your packet loss ratio and ping to the server press up on the arrows and the enter key to quickly run the test again

Run the test like 4 times and see how many packets you lose, if you're losing 0% packets and ping under 20ms it's not your internet that's the problem if you're dropping packets or have ping higher than 40ms it's probably your ISP

[grand swallow]

Yo rip i just queued up to normals with arena kit bruh

[livid onyx]

"Survive"

[grand swallow]

I just escaped bruh i camped tue whole time haha

[livid onyx]

Ayyyy lmao

[grand swallow]

I was geming stuff and rushed to arena haha im gud now

[sweet oyster]

just came back...did they change troll resist or anything to stop the warlock hellfire strat

[livid onyx]

Yeah, troll has fire resistance, and it has a higher health pool now.

[sweet oyster]

ok thanks...20 hellfires in base kit and i was like wait a minuteeeeeeeeee

[livid onyx]

It's still fast but not <35 seconds fast

[livid onyx]

Anytime

[upper mist]

are there still region locks now? Or did they get nuked so people can play in a more populated dungeon?

[daring slate]

Whats the best class to play if I want to invest the least amount of gold? (Not barb.)

[static frost]

Ranger

[livid onyx]

I wanna say druid/ranger

[mossy walrus]

So uh, what's up with the lag?

[rigid fractal]

Sorcerer

[daring slate]

in-game?

[mossy walrus]

Yeah I keep rubberbanding, what the flip man

[daring slate]

Ou jeah same. Idk why tho. Some matches I dont have a single rubberband happening and sometimes its unplayable. Its only like that in dad tho

[unique flame]

I have a quick question. Now me and my trio may just be shit at the game but every other team we encounter destroys us. We are returning players who played a couple months ago. What are some good classes for trios now?

[daring slate]

If yall play ruins triple ranged or double ranged and one frontline is pretty damn mighty

[static frost]

Barb/ranger with cleric/druid healer, or sorc

[unique flame]

So would Druid, ranger, and sorcerer be good?

[daring slate]

If you take ur matchups good it shoud work. But having a frontline is often a bit better imo. So e.g barb

[unique flame]

Hmmm okay

[static frost]

I'd recommend having a front line

[unique flame]

The only problem is is that my friend doesn’t have legendary status so he’s pretty much stuck as a ranger. So in that case would Druid, ranger, and fighter/barb be good?

[static frost]

Yea u can make that work

[daring slate]

jeah that shoudk work

[unique flame]

Hmmm okay. Would ranger, sorcerer and cleric be good maybe?

[daring slate]

If its frotline cleric sure u can make it work. Yall play norms right?

[static frost]

I'd recommend dp/smite cleric if you're going that route

Play off your sorc getting a free pick, or ranger hitting a headshot or 2

[daring slate]

cuz if you do getting destroyed can also just be a gear diff atm. In our norms lobbies everon is running around in bis gear rn and hr is empty as hell

[daring slate]

second that. Ranger damage is insane rn and one or two god hits can change the fight. And sorc is just sorc :o

[unique flame]

Well these past couple nights we have been running fighter, ranger and Druid and almost everytime we died it was to a very geared player

[daring slate]

ok. same with me and my mate. Idk why everyone is gearing up this much for norms rn

[unique flame]

Yeah. When I last played it was when your gear score was limited and before the PVE

[daring slate]

jeah. imo pve is kinda pointless but its pretty chill. But norms having no gear limit is kinda meh. Blues shoud be the limit imo maybe epics

[unique flame]

Yeah I agree

[warm rune]

Get rid of true dmg out this game and make pen useful. Get rid of mpb and pdb

[vapid jackal]

Do i lose my gear in arena thats not self found?

[azure trench]

when are normals going to be normals again, feel like sdf loved game genie as a kid.

[dull fiber]

is there still no random fill???????

[thorny wasp]

nope gotta make friends in the dungeon!

[azure trench]

no its "inorganic"

[mellow lance]

why get rid of mpb and pdb

[dull fiber]

so dumb

[indigo wagon]

Please remove teaming in solos @glad thunder

[timber rune]

i did warlord with 7 poeple]

[rigid fractal]

genius

[zealous temple]

yeah, remove human nature! or something

[slim tulip]

I think they lifted the restriction on gear to partly accommodate F2P players, also sdf said that they don't want to continue limiting the player base, that's why teaming is now encourage

[slim tulip]

No, arena has no SSF restriction rn, you will keep everything even if you lose

[daring slate]

Makes sense ig

[slim tulip]

I'm just overall happy the game is no longer based around the small entitled and loud people anymore, some streamers included, the game will start healing soon when ppl realize you don't need to be a KoS'er anymore

[merry helm]

when is whipe guys?

[wooden gull]

soft

[timber rune]

adventure mode enjoyer

[cosmic swan]

Late august

[civic bobcat]

Bro all i want to know from sdf to explain why does gk screams two times in a row? does he expect us to bring full magic reduction and magic dmg potion or smth?

[graceful storm]

its part of the fight he can triple scream if you do enough damage quick enough you have to pace it out

[mental halo]

Give normals nameplates back!!!

[graceful storm]

as in only do enough damage to trigger one scream at a time if you cant tank that much damage

[hybrid vapor]

all this does is make fights easier for vets

[mental halo]

I disagree. Vets are coming in with gear and don’t alter their appearance much. New players are upgrading every module and changing. It’s chaos and the mechanic is lame

[frosty meteor]

Dead game

[warm ingot]

LOL just ran a trios lobby on norms as a solo... there are a bunch of solos there... prolly trying to get away from the teams in the "solo" lobbies

[nova jetty]

Remove teams in solos.
But more importantly.
Remove Cockatrice. Nobody enjoys that stupid thing.

[river basalt]

Haven't played since gear scores were explicitly used for matchmaking. Is there any soft/hidden matchmaking system based on gear, or is it completely open season?

I see GS is still a thing, but no indication if it affects your matchmaking

[warm ingot]

Why do we have HR and Norms if we are just running bis in norms now?

[untold onyx]

lol

[thorny wasp]

great question!

[river basalt]

Yeah it was jarring to get freight trained by a blue/purple Fighter in my greys and whites

Honestly just dropping normal to Rare max would help. If purple+ pulls up you can't even play around it in base gear

[brittle crane]

"WITH INCREASED CONFIDENCE IN THE DIRECTION OF OUR GAME!!!!" they screamed, as they allowed solo players to team up against other solo players, completely ruining the idea and terminology of the term 'solo'

[acoustic sage]

How's the state of the game looking?

[nova jetty]

If we got solos back, why can we still not see nametags

[rare oracle]

Yes this is a great take. 3v1ing someone for all their stuff is fair and healing.

[viscid pumice]

yo who knows GK well i got a couple of questions

[low mica]

You mean trios with a mask on

[inner cosmos]

trios 2.0

[fallen pivot]

ok hear me out game add a boomkin for druid and more spell dmg spells along with next update and wizard new aoe spells as well boom!

[fierce violet]

I'm pretty sure they undid a bunch of PVE mode features so you can just steal another team's spectral fabric when they kill the boss (it was already MORONIC that you can last hit steal anyway)

I still can't even process how this game removed matchmaking for PVE mode; I've never seen devs so contemptive toward their own players

[grand swallow]

Restarted my game and i insta queued up thought it was arena again and it was norms....

[grave cave]

is it just me or did they make mud shield smaller

[viscid pumice]

yo i got a couple of questions for ghost king, can anyone help?

[sour kraken]

The fact that you can scream racial slurs in voice chat at fucking children is fun and free

[grand swallow]

I escaped with my arena kit from norms i queued up with 70k kit

[shut timber]

Oce is unplayable in solos

[lime verge]

When does real solos get released again

[grand swallow]

I alomost got trioed with 70k kit on accident i queued up instead of arena it was scary af

[shut timber]

The definition of solo is as follows:
‘done by one person alone; unaccompanied’

[delicate steppe]

Haha I've done that w a homie before. Exhilarating eh

[grand swallow]

@delicate steppe its scary af bro i was like if i die imm finnna alt f4. But i escaped lol

[viscid pumice]

can anyone answer some questions about Gk i have?

[subtle heart]

fix solo im just getting teamed on by 3 mans

[dapper mortar]

cant have 37 ppl in high roller

[shut raptor]

@blissful mica this guy is a teamkiller btw dont queue with this tw1nk

[heady fern]

@glad thunder maybe can make it so when you kill someone, their bleed, poision, burn goes off you so you dont also fall over?

[fiery sundial]

why do i have a solos option and a trios option if im gonna be put into trios lobbies anyway....

[quartz osprey]

they have got to remove this team up stuff. seriously so stupid

[real rover]

Remove expandable map, remove static extracts, bring back solo queue, bring back swarm circle, and limit portal count to that of playtest 3/4 so we have to actually fight for final portals again. That was the best state of DaD

[quartz osprey]

just died to a triple druid team in solos. really fun maybe i can outplay them next time @glad thunder

[untold lynx]

are they ever adding back solos and duos bruh

[frank nexus]

hey my game crashed b4 and now i'm missing all of my kit? i loaded back up with the default stuff, checked to see if maybe goblin had them? idk
I'm a little upset

:(( I just learned how to use the jewler guy and stuff

[untold lynx]

it should reconnect u but if it doesnt ur gear is gone and im pretty sure goblin only returns ur items if they dont get looted by anyone

[frank nexus]

i wasn't in a map, i was loading into one tho. u think someone looted me while i was still blackscreened?

[untold lynx]

if it doesnt let u reconnect someone probably killed you while u were crashed or something ur character stays in the game when u crash

[frank nexus]

gob didn't have anything :(so if i was looted they took it all.... they took my wife

[keen saffron]

hows the game look right now?

[warm ingot]

Ban guy left so they cant monitor teaming anymore so they just made it ok to do it

[lone wasp]

anyone getting stuck on loading when taking red?

[warm ingot]

one of them was prolly SDF lol druid was too weak now so tripple druid vs solo is the idea /s

[warm ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-tech-tips-ltt-bug-gif-19900847

[spice path]

did they fix the game yet or are we still dealing with bad updates?

[frank nexus]

teaming?

[golden yacht]

sdf is actually delusional

[warm ingot]

The game is fun af but its still bad updates.... its like they do something great, "but with a twist"

[spice path]

ah... thanks for letting me know

[desert cliff]

What is the point of a solo queue if im still gonna get teamed on

[odd scroll]

wipe date?

[zealous temple]

Your playing a low rep obscure "early access" game with an echo chambered community they dont want to ban, there are no rules

[burnt moon]

realest shit iv ever heard

[glad shadow]

this shit crashes my computer on launch

[gusty sierra]

Say... still no solos and duos huh?

[slim tulip]

you prabably died inside the game, because if you crash and are still alive in game the game will put you in the dungeon again

[unreal agate]

🤣

[rough drum]

so we just gonna leave the Y button on in solos then? what the frock

[dull isle]

Killing the game so trios can go around running down solos is lame

[karmic belfry]

are solo back in the game

[dull isle]

Not really

[wet barn]

@karmic belfry kind but u can team now

[tropic rain]

@glad thunder remove multishot from ranger bro, giving a shotgun that instakills at melee range to the ranger makes no fking sense

[warm rune]

I changed my mind keep it

[prisma lava]

Physical damage bonus or physical power for gemming? Bard with like 30% before gemming.
And max health or health bonus?

[slim tulip]

in my opinion multishot SHOULD NOT reload automatically your arrow count, if you only have 2 arrows left you only shoot 2 arrows and so on, that way they will have to lose time reloading if you are pushing them or just start the shotgun knowing you are going to rush them, ergo, they will not shoot while you close the gap, if they want to have a chance at hitting with more arrows

also idk why you quoted me in a 3 hours ago comment

[wooden lichen]

Don't let all this solos drama distract you from the fact that druid is still busted af

[tropic rain]

i was going to reply few hours ago but I didnt, then I wrote replying without realising

[subtle shore]

did they fix solos que?

[velvet sun]

What happens to your loot if your teammate kills you in solos? Anyone know?

[grand swallow]

Any one else queue up normals with arena kit on accident?

[drifting raptor]

if they extract with it, you get it back. as long as you don’t quit the team

[grand swallow]

There should be setting in squire tht prevents u from queue up to certain modes

[velvet sun]

If he leaves it on my body then what?

[grand swallow]

Like you have this kit you cant queue up to normals

[drifting raptor]

but if you get mad and quit, they no longer count as team and can take your gear. if he leaves it is gone

[rustic socket]

bro we need actual solos back. npt this teamming shite. devs stop smoking crack please

[grand swallow]

Im tlking about like i keep queue uo with my arena kit on accident to normal queue

Im good though but there should be like arena squire kits tht are labeled and prevent you from using it other than arena.

[tidal plover]

Game is dead and so is chat rip boys it was fun while it lasted

[indigo wagon]

playing with a friend whos brand new and were fighting 2v3s against full juice in norms. you are a poison to this game @glad thunder

i cant play solo im getting 1v3'd.. trying to introduce a friend to the game and were fighting against crafted gear in squire.. whats the vision here man? youre failing this game and community @glad thunder

[slow salmon]

Make rogues 3 hits to kill again. This 1-2 hit thing is entirely unreasonable. I'm dropping them like they're not even on the map. It's really boring and unfair to be a rogue right now. And daggers are still in the game, why? I can take like 15 dagger hits and afk before they kill you.

[fading elk]

Whats the class people complain about the least

[slow salmon]

As in, which one is the strongest or which one is the weakest? Strongest is Sorc because of utility, CC, and sheer damage. Weakest is rogue, because they get 1 tapped and just about every class has a counter for them.

[dense moon]

Probably bard

[fading elk]

I see ppl complain about rogues hella like especially landmind rogue

[fading elk]

Thats a good point ive never seen someone really get mad at a bard before

[slow salmon]

Last season rogues were good, but now they're trash. You can get landmined and dunk a rogue in 1 tap before they hit you 3 times.

[dense moon]

When the class first released many people were complaining about the ability to keep playing the same song over and over again, other than that I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen complaints about it

[slow salmon]

Ranger can jump back, fighter just dunks them, barb dunks them, sorc can knock back, wiz can MM (not reliable but probably kill ya first), bards.. hah. 1v1 a bard as a rogue ok sure.

[slim tulip]

if you are introducing a game go play adventure mode

[slow salmon]

Last season rogues were very balanced. In fact if they just gave daggers 1-2 more damage to make them viable again (they got nerfed like 3 times in 1 season), and gave rogues back their usual HP, they'd be balanced. But now, they're like.. haha. Its so sad for them. Bards spamming is obnoxious, but I cant see adding a CD between songs. Seems.. rude.

[noble bronze]

Bards were cancer like. 2-3(?) wipes ago, but since then have been fine. Maybe even needing a buff idk haven't played after midseason wipe

[slow salmon]

I think bards are balanced. They're not supposed to be 1v1 players. They're a team character. So to buff them would let them run all over solos again which is cancer. I think right now, a good bard is in a good place. May

[fading elk]

I remember that it was a must have for a trio or duo

[noble bronze]

a must have for trios that also was tanky as shit and outdpsed everything because rapier was broken (or wayyyyyy back when, surv bow spam)

[spice stratus]

lol, i wish

[slow salmon]

Honestly SDF is just bad at being a Dev. He changes the game for streamer views and nukes his player base because he likes to be strong when he plays. He nerfs anything he can't play against and calls it science. It's like if you told a child they could govern the entire school playground. He just breaks all the toys and will cry when its all gone.

[unreal stirrup]

Honestly the game feels great right now. Yea Ironmace has made a few mistakes but I'm looking forward to the future of this game

[nimble hearth]

Mobs still do too much damage.

[weary herald]

pre teaming in solos now legal?

[nimble hearth]

Yes. Might as well be

[weary herald]

true wouldnt make an actual difference if a friend or random actually

[nimble hearth]

Pretty much. I wanna go post lfg for trio pre team but I'm not sure if the uppity mods here will fuss

[cobalt mirage]

Is the socketing system not working for anyone else?

[fresh bay]

Yeah this game is toasted, sorcs still fucking ruthlessly overpowered as usual, rip D&D u were good whilst u lasted

[cobalt mirage]

Is the socket system not working for anyone else?

[wooden lichen]

theres just no reason for me to use gear in hr because im gonna get shit on by ironmace's diddler solos mode thats actually trios.

and also always fighting 3 [unnamable country] dudes that are geared out of their minds

[cobalt mirage]

Is the socket system not working for anyone else?

[fresh bay]

games fucked and it honestly has been for a good while, i held on for a bit thinking its just a bumpy patch but they're just honestly throwing it down the well again, this is so fucking stupid lmao, gg ironmace another player lost wpwp

[cobalt mirage]

Is the socket system not working for anyone else?

[vital temple]

I think they changed that, I remember it being likethat but last time someone left the team and we looted his body (after he left the team) it was still "ally gear"

[sullen mesa]

Understanable

[tawdry canopy]

works

[boreal flame]

arf

[hardy stump]

would you feel better if you wre roflstomped in 2v2 by juicers instead?

[coarse nova]

@fleet imp my beloved, what do you think about more pdr + %hp back & greenies barbs with more than 175hp?
is it helping 1v3? & is it gear diff or not? (morale boost 33%hp... second wind 40%hp.... blabla)
what do you think about sorcs still broken as they are for too long also?

even if you don't touch sorcs, we were near perfect before this hell hole

4 modifiers blabla, just one static roll & it was heaven

gave crafted a purpose, ssf needed just more time + an actual end goal, & solo being actual solo

(at least if everyone is as weak as rogue everyone would press Y)

look at clerics healers poor guys they are the og of this game they press Y more often than us in those dungeons, at least they are accepted

[vital temple]

Would feel better if they returned normal lobbies to common lobbies

[teal mulch]

if your teaming in solos and shaking your Cuhhck mits instanly as you load in kindly do a flip on the way down that is all

[coarse nova]

there's more trios than duos atm

[small dust]

@teal mulch i agree

[coarse nova]

why? cuz it can be abused

[teal mulch]

because you have a mangina if you are loading into solos to then turn the game into trios

[coarse nova]

i always told them, expect the worst in the playerbase, they don't know what is worst

so they make changes in a full loop that's down right bad & exploitable every patches

press Y, press Y solos, remove solos & forcing trios blablabla

& when its not that its bring +1 all remove it & again & again

i told them hire me when i gave them the idea of death cam + spec, fools.

they would still be eating tea country armies

[honest geode]

is there no autofill anymore for trios?

[coarse nova]

prob cuz korea is diff/than western culture

[coarse nova]

you can premade but no auto fill yes

[honest geode]

okay ty

[coarse nova]

just go solo & abuse what ironmace wants tbh tag at the same time theres more trios in solos than trios in trios
as we all expected players abuse what they can to gain advantages always

[honest geode]

lol sounds fun

[indigo wagon]

idc i shouldnt be outnumbered against my choice in any game ever not a hard concept to understand

[teal mulch]

honestly if people had some honor the hand shaking thing wouldnt be a problem if nobody used it but i just find it funny how we begged for solos myself included and as soon as they get the chance the party up very ironic

[coarse nova]

ya it was the most memeic way to do it

cuz they know they are turning into loops & thats also why they took 3 weeks to nerf ranger this wipe
(they buffed then nerfed it the same day, you get it? they can't do it so soon after it so they let us suffer for reputation)

[proper parrot]

im debating on making a rouge and just filling him with as much magic find as i can and playing sneaky as hell

[coarse nova]

thats the most poopiest way to play cuz magic does nothing on him unless buff dur & pickpocket
also don't debate play anything else atm, we get poop on every min here in this game

[proper parrot]

i said magic find but i meant luck

[coarse nova]

🤷 if its in pve fine unless you want superbeard man crying at ya with 170hp+ in all greens & co

[shut timber]

I quit

[coarse nova]

or super wiz man, casting infinite spells one shotting ya, or stunning ya then one shutting ya after sending 50 spells to knockback ya

or the class we are supposed to counter : ranger, with chase, shotgun, backstep blablabla it's the olympic games of Bullshit

talking about wiz, the one cast MM(magic missiles) one cast one kill... (less than half missiles one shots a rogue in close range)

[proper parrot]

well ill play rouge so ill just keep my ears on and go invis and hide

[coarse nova]

you make it sound like others wants it to be not actual rogues, a loot goblin

a hard to catch pinata
blessed are the rogues thinking like this, cuz you'll still die (1v3 or 3v3)

we don't have range, we don't have dmg (daggers are a joke itself), we don't have hp 86 base? blessed are %hp with actual HIGH HP, we certainly don't have MDR, certainly some but low PDR, we have nothing but 5-10more ms base without a wep in hand XD

how about actually deving one tho
so we can get back to being players & not mobs

[obtuse agate]

Please add a timer to these "Hold the Module" quests !

[coarse nova]

half the rogue player base waited for rogue buffs with what was said for 6.5 we got nothing but hate from ya devs, surprised? not...
the playerbase that played it? left already too

[coarse nova]

also "magic find" only gets ya better chance to get gear not wealth as they promised
& thats only for arena, artifacts doesn't change much
ain't no farmers in pve with luck gear XD (they win more money without it) if your so wished for troll pelt turns into a shit legandary gear its on your luck

[proper parrot]

so luck doesnt affect gems or any of those items?

[coarse nova]

ya just a game of hr & no luck & you get it everywhere

just like 1.5% of artifact drops in hr is max for mobs you won't get the same in under valued queues

[inner zephyr]

is solos back yet?

[coarse nova]

what would change this in pve is high luck based chests/bosses but thats the only things

& ultra rare also compared to hr

what luck does is enhancing chances to get higher rarity things in it after all

so blue becomes leg, but what has less chances to come out & might sell better turns into it also even if its blue/purple, meaning a pelt can turn into a sad legendary lyre
chest becomes a purple / leg when its just a blue/purple ruby
same as bones being bis to sell s6, you can turn your pelt into a troll club, wolf pelt into ****

[hidden cradle]

kinda

[main garden]

try again in a few weeks

[proper parrot]

solos are back with a twist...... the twist is you get 3v1'd all the time and its not bannable in fact its now encouraged to team up in solo

[ivory jay]

if you expressman gear back can you use it in arena?

[warm olive]

whens full wipe

[hallow prism]

haven't played since season 5 should I come back?

[soft maple]

Hello

[hardy stump]

you can just use the gear from the market

anyone can read predator runes?

[fickle rose]

not worth it

[hallow prism]

k

[merry shadow]

i’ll listen to $uicideboy$ - and to those that i love thanks for sticking around

[cosmic raven]

It’s sad in this game you have two options as a duo 1v2 in solos mode or 2v3 in trios. Both options aren’t enjoyable and will cause someone to have a bad experience. Wish they’d just add duos back at least in norms where the lobbies will fill

[coral thistle]

If this game actually makes it to next wipe in august we better see some stellar content

[merry blaze]

QUICK PLS CAN WYVERN DROP ARTEFACT KILLED LIKE 20+ TIME NO ARTEFACT

[tawny carbon]

is goblin merchant only for pve ? or is it HR too ?

[merry blaze]

can wyvern drop artefact?

tqveni dedamovtyasn

[regal pivot]

how to fix DaD:
Make solos without teaming, at least for HR
Arena SSF but its account wide+ some form of gameplay loop ie dungeon to arena
make the long sword fighter only
reduce the buff time for bards and make their class only gear worth using, right now you never see them in their class gear

[placid shale]

Nerf druid bear

[merry shadow]

oh i’ll have fun, after dealing with this interaction. i really need something strong to make me numb

[thorn bay]

guys i started solo but got killed by 6 people what is that? another sdf's vision?

[dim adder]

sad times.. if you jump into trio's for pve gold man there's no randoms to team with 😦

[merry shadow]

@subtle heart it’s a really beautiful song thank you. i do enjoy it

[subtle heart]

No problem

[fair haven]

GOOD JOB DEVS get stuck on a 2 inch lip for 1 second an i get instant killed at 105 health with 2 arrows from a archer 👏

another strategy to get as many players to quit as soon as they download the game it seems

[shut timber]

every game in hr oce is riddled with cheaters its actually insane, theres more cheaters than legit players

[lethal urchin]

hey, is there any problems specifically with accepting quest rewards? I have two quests now which have been completed, both of which refuse to give me the items, saying to come back with more room, and I literally have plenty of room for a lot of big items

[sacred shell]

Hey anyone run game on Linux mint? I got constant blackscreens and crashes

[lethal urchin]

ok why did my quests not complete until I rented another inventory page?

[winter tinsel]

Depends what you like. If you want social shenanigans, it’s good. If you want to play strictly solo and progress in Hr, meh

[storm cliff]

no autofill in dungeons anymore?

[strong trench]

bro

[winter tinsel]

Cuz you didn’t have space for the rewards. It’s janky

[strong trench]

bow hitbox increased or im encountering too many cheaters on arenas?

[lethal urchin]

I had an entire empty inventory, you can't even act like I didn't have room

[winter tinsel]

Well it’s bugged then cuz that makes no sense lol

[wet bronze]

Sdf is a C l o w n. Please Sdf, r e s i g n

[weary trench]

Is solo fucked, I go down to ice hell and everyone duo or trio

[pseudo garden]

Are ranked rewards out yet

[winter tinsel]

Yesterday I played and it was 3 teams hitting ice pile together lol. My team betrayed everyone. Still whack tho

[mental sparrow]

yes

[mental sparrow]

everyone was complainning bout no solos duos, one step at a time solos is now back! so let them do their thing!!

[gusty sierra]

trio or trio with extra steps isn't solos, rage bait 0/10

[obtuse talon]

does anyone else lag whenever they hit shit? like only a when a melee attack connects u get a 0,5s lag

[winter tinsel]

Facts. Though it’s weird they specify “in this iteration” knowing full well that it’s not gonna be pretty. Why don’t we skip the ugly and just make the logical choice lol

[astral kelp]

so did they remove gear score matchmaking or something? i go in with base kit facing full kits

[winter tinsel]

Gone

But they did squish a lot of the stats together and increase headshot to 200% so in theory you can still win against geared ppl

[wheat rain]

So Solo is just wait 30 sec for the lobby to turn into trios nice . brain rot spd dev

[astral kelp]

oh okay got it

[full dome]

game fixed yet?

[queen spruce]

Free content ideas for devs that don’t care about content at all

• next map should be Egyptian themed
• there should be a randomly spawned NPC trader in each dungeon. There could be like 5 different kinds and it randomly spawns one per floor and they would each do something unique like trade hunting loot for gear, randomly rewrite 1 random modifier, insure 1 piece of gear for you, etc
• there should be more achievements released and cosmetic rewards should be tied to the hard/top tier ones

[leaden peak]

good thingg devs never care waht the player base wants

[median salmon]

not really, but at least it is slightly better than before.

[clever mauve]

@glad thunder remove trio in solo q omg

[dusty falcon]

Full free version of TradingView Premium (Windows + MacOs) with updates: https://www.reddit.com/r/TVFreeHub/comments/1m3ss9n/tradingview_premium_free_advanced_tools_for/

[south copper]

a total of 2 other players were in my match, looks like progress or something

[clever mauve]

making boss get jumped by trio players in solo q GG SDF NICE VISION

[solid spruce]

yo i lost a bet so i gotta do any dares i get in dms

[sage ingot]

whats a good class to start with lmao, Im new

[hardy canopy]

Please keep this channel to game discussion only.

[wraith linden]

can someone explain how the Squire works exactly i seem to be able to pre equip some stuff but not others

[edgy scarab]

can we get headshot dmg at 150 instead of 200 its just been a instakill hell

[civic bobcat]

fighter

[wraith linden]

W Sly pfp

[south copper]

you can expand the gear available to you by questing for the traders, once you complete enough you will see more items in the squire menu

[civic bobcat]

its been 12 years bro still waiting for the newww gamee, its going to bee crazzzyyy right???

[wraith linden]

so i can only use the stuff in the lefter menu which scale with bond correct ?

[sage ingot]

falchion or arming sword

[wraith linden]

🥀

[formal sequoia]

longsword better

[civic bobcat]

arming for sure, make sure to get counter attack perk

[sage ingot]

Should I change the shield for heater shield?

[civic bobcat]

heather or buckler but heather is way better especially for a beginner.

[hardy stump]

think what you wish for, there was a time I wished for next DoW after 2nd one

[winter tinsel]

Fighter, barb, cleric, ranger, warlock. Sorc, Druid, and wiz require more knowledge/experience. Warlock is kinda like that too but shadow touch is pretty noob friendly on warlock

[wraith linden]

am I done for by choosing sorcerer ?

[winter tinsel]

Sorc is good just hard to play, takes some practice

[sage ingot]

Thankyouu

[civic bobcat]

really high skill ceiling make sure to watch yt videos. Sorc is basically better version of longsword fighter (if u can play it)

[hardy stump]

On a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is ooga booga barb and 10 is memorising a symphony notes, sorc is at 9

[winter tinsel]

Ya there’s like 1 million things you can do on Sorc

[wraith linden]

im deffo growing into this class mapped skills into mouse and learned some combos with the blitz shield and merge spells, my dmg sucks tho

[hardy stump]

muscle memory is a big thing, and you need to have multiple mental slots for different builds too, hf

[wraith linden]

rn im doing the insta casting build im sure that's an established build

[velvet dirge]

i actually give up on solos

[wraith linden]

but i have limited understanding of how the squire works still, the person above mentions :

you can expand the gear available to you by questing for the traders, once you complete enough you will see more items in the squire menu

am I to understand that stuff that i collect is unsavable ?

am I basically at the mercy of the gear that the squire provides ?

[hasty marlin]

so wait is HR teaming in solos allowed now if you party up??

[mellow charm]

Yes solos isn’t nothing but trios with extras steps lmao

[winter tinsel]

That’s the way to do it. The best sorc I know does thr same thing with mouse spell memory

[hasty marlin]

Dude YES, finally! this is what i've been wanting all this time as a solo only player!

[winter tinsel]

Don’t get too comfy they will prob remove it

[sage ingot]

What do you do in raids? I've been playing but I don't know what I'm supposed to do

[winter tinsel]

I think the best play is to remove teaming in HR. Keep it true solos. In normals who cares

[hasty marlin]

They better not. The only thing I've ever wanted in my solos games is the ability for people to be allowed to team against me in groups of 3!

[winter tinsel]

Oh absolutely. I love being social in my solo game

[hasty marlin]

You just have to believe in the vision.

[winter tinsel]

Solo players are known for being social butterflies obviously

[hushed apex]

can u get troll pelt in adventure mode?

[agile canopy]

is bouncing other players who try to collect from gold treasures a new thing? dude interruppt me always with earth shatter in pve. Any way to report him?

[quiet lance]

Im not 100% sure but Idk if thats something that can be banned

[sage ingot]

What is a good perk and skill for rogue?

[hushed apex]

can u get troll pelt in adventure mode?

[worn zephyr]

You can get anything that’s Epic and under(so ya)

[median anvil]

ok just played a match and had a team of three that had a bard who shot a survival bow across an entire module with no drop off and a barbarian who threw throwing knives across half a module no drop off and almost instant impact. Have things changed recently or that straight up cheating?

[elfin coral]

is there party finder anymore?

[median anvil]

and i like how there's an endless amount of shit to throw at ppl. Barbarians, fighters, and rogues are like ranged classes now. wtf

[edgy scarab]

yeah this teaming in solos in unbareable, just feels like 3v1 all over again

[gleaming osprey]

Don't forget drums too

[median anvil]

it's so annoying

[winter tinsel]

Was it green arrows? Cuz that’s elven bow

[median anvil]

maybe they were super geared idk but like it was almost like they had guns and i had legs. The barb was outrunning me as a druid and throwing knives like bullets no drop at all straight lines high impact

[winter tinsel]

Or nvm that’s pestilence I think. If you hold down the button before throwing, it’s like a power throw so that makes sense. Only bow that doesn’t have fall off is elven bow tho

[agile canopy]

had this two times and annoyin af.. Kids who think destroying game for others is funny

[median anvil]

no the barb threw multiple knives no drop. And the bard shot accross entire module in GC with the wood walk way and purple crystal mine area thingy. I was on one side of the room he was the entire other side no drop off full damage

[winter tinsel]

Hm yeah idk it just sounds like artifacts to me but it’s hard to say without a video

[lusty citrus]

can we play solos now is the game still trash

[gleaming osprey]

Solos is trios with extra steps

[gleaming osprey]

The left the in game teaming in so everyone just teams up and stomps lobby now

[inland sandal]

anyone know how to modify cfg files to connect to a different server?

[hardy stump]

solo players mad that solo players don't want to play solo, but to play against solos, the handshake does not overwrite mentality, teamers in solos always existed, what "gib soloz lol" people do not seem to understand is that all of the actual solo players have left the game and are not coming back, regardless of how much they will screech and how far sdf will flip flop again

[glad shadow]

Best class?

[mystic sierra]

hi is it true today wipe will occur ?

[boreal island]

no

[fading canopy]

it depends on how you play, i play rogue but therefore im way more Vulnerable (but i can lockpick, Poison, inflict bleed, Be a bit more stealthy and Disarm traps. oh and i got double blades)

[glad shadow]

Just got the game. Just trying to find a good character

[minor patio]

sdf is very intelligent

[vocal vine]

any of the ranged ones

[fading canopy]

man ive seen Sorcerer and Wizard cook ingame, But its all about your taste. as i said im Vulnerable but i just like the playstyle so ill most possibly stay rogue. maybe read abit about the classes and try the one that seems the most appealing

[crystal nimbus]

how do you stick your hand out to form a party in game?

[azure trench]

why

[arctic palm]

u press x to holster ur weapons and then press y

[unreal agate]

Trios in solos is fun! Making friends overrides and type of gameplay for me! Interacting with people and creating friendships is AWESOME thanks SDF

[steady python]

adding solo's back was a huge L. wouldve been cool if it was JUST goblin caves like the original vision but here we are dividing a tiny player base by a butload of queues again.

[arctic palm]

tbh can we just bring back solos/duos/trios like this is the first game i've ever seen that has solos and trios and not duos i feel like im playing fortnite when it used to have solos/trios and no duos

[unreal agate]

Sometimes I run into a group of 3 and I die in 2 seconds but hey! That’s a part of the game and that’s life HAhaha thanks SDF

When I qued solos I actually wanted to play against 3 people! HAH thanks SDF you know what’s BEST for me! I love SOLOS

[steady python]

tarkov doesn't have solo's you're lucky we even tolerate you chronically solo no friend weirdo's. why do you want the tiny player base split into as many queues as possible? why do you want the game to die?

[unreal agate]

HHa yeah! Why bring back the most popular mode?! 25k player base now into 3k is Awesome! You definitely know what’s best for this game @steady python

[severe coyote]

i personally enjoy non-socially just teaming with the first 2 people I run into in the dungeon and steamrolling all the people that queued solo thinking they could play solo versus solo LMAO

[arctic palm]

so were being slow and were allowing ppl to team up in solos BECUASE ITS SOLOS

[arctic palm]

the game is not gonna die the community is loyal but they just need the right updates and stop giving out experimental updates for no reason and if its an experimental update that update should last a maximum of 3 days

the community will have plenty of time to give out they're word in 3 days but anything that exceeds that is just absurd

[spare finch]

I’ll bully SDF for the rest of my life bc that little twink deserves it

[velvet ferry]

@zinc sparrow is something happening to EU server ? Desync is insane today

[silver smelt]

Graysun is anything good going to happen to the game?

[lucid heron]

guys is the game worth redownloading?

[silver smelt]

Player Experience Should be a Priority

[smoky jetty]

this game straight up sucks now solos is so trash

[ember arrow]

What the fuck am I supposed to do against bardiches or barbarians
Its like they take ZERO damage

[steady python]

solo's should get friends.

[sinful vigil]

I feel like this game went from Awesome, to great, to good, to o.k. then to crap. I have been a part of the loyale community but I can only take so much. Starting to look for other games to play. I'll check back to see if things get better again but I am not holding my breath.

[azure trench]

thats 80% of the playerbase buuuuuuuuuuuuud

[smoky jetty]

yes preteaming

[ember arrow]

honestly better than forced trios

[sinful vigil]

They are patching every freaking week now for balancing but they want solos to go against trios. Easy balance make Solos, Duos, and Trios again.

[steady python]

this game had 60k players when it was only trios.

[ember arrow]

oh my god this full legendary wearing barb offered a team before declining and killing me
what is this retard's issue

[smoky jetty]

because it was new and upcoming has nothing to do with trios only being the reason lol

[queen spruce]

Peanut brain takes

[ember arrow]

Brother I CANNOT drop any loot for you, filth of a player

[shut raptor]

You know you guys are allowed to team kill without any consequences?

[ember arrow]

Dont you lose rep

[winter tinsel]

Oh no not the color of my name

[shut raptor]

means nothing lol

I had evidence of two players team killing from this discord that me and a friend or another random LFG’d with, they throw a temper tantrum and team kill. I record it and send it to Graysun and staff, they do nothing about it and want me to use the report in game system like that does shit LMAO. goofy staff

[ember arrow]

Thats filthy

[smoky jetty]

bring back solos or else this will be dungeonborne 2.0

[slim apex]

guys what if we make oonga boonga the meta and let a cleric do 1k healing in 2 seconds

the perfect recipe for a hardcore immersive game.. right?

[ember arrow]

guys what if barbarians didnt die and could deal 1 gorillion damage

[atomic condor]

What's the player count now that we have "solos" out of morbid curiosity

[smoky jetty]

also barbarian is beyond op now can easily get shittons of health, nearly 1 taps you on the head with reckless in fact 1 taps u even in bis. Sdf made barb extra op because hes in love with skinnypete

[ember canopy]

steamdb says 4,661 players rn

[clear pendant]

XD

[slow kestrel]

So ive been playing since launch and just joined this server. Does anyone know why SDF is not listening to his community?

[blissful valve]

cuz the vision man

[slow kestrel]

The vision of pissing off the player base? lmao

[wraith wigeon]

Language barrier

[slow kestrel]

Google translate?

[blissful valve]

the vision of god himself you know

[wraith wigeon]

He’s actually running a squid game, waiting to see who the last player standing will be.

[slow kestrel]

XD

[smoky jetty]

If he doesnt being back real solos game will die

[wicked tusk]

sooooo, trios is back, am i missing something while q'ing, keep getting q'd solo?

[slow kestrel]

He took out autofill team and now you have to team up in dungeon by presing Y

[wicked tusk]

so it just the fkn same as b4

[wraith wigeon]

Matchmaking was getting embarrassing because nobody plays and it was taking forever to queue

[slow kestrel]

That too

[wicked tusk]

sdf, ur a cock

[wraith wigeon]

A long skinny one

[slow kestrel]

He is gonna read that as " we want your vision"

[wicked tusk]

ahaha

[slow kestrel]

Also taking away teammates names above their heads

[wicked tusk]

wild, guys thinks its tarkov

[tardy vapor]

is there a frame data resource somewhere

[slow kestrel]

Its all a part of the "vision"

[wicked tusk]

cnt needs galsses

[slow kestrel]

More like a new brain

[stable urchin]

rat druid still consistently ruining the games pvp

i love beating a druid 5 times just for them to heal and come back @glad thunder

[slow kestrel]

SDF translation: "We want what you want"

[shadow crypt]

if u complain about druid now u either are bad or new to the game

[scarlet sedge]

Hmm solos added back in and number of players in game doubles 🤔 interesting!! Finally it’s been added back and I dont even feel like playing lol

[slow kestrel]

I wonder what would happen if he brought back duos too

[spiral basin]

TRASH TEAMING SOLO MODE

[stable urchin]

@shadow crypt rat druid will alawys be straight cheese, doesnt matter when ya doof also your pfp scares me

[scarlet sedge]

It would increase again but not as much since solos was like 50% of pb or something near that

[slow kestrel]

Yeah i mean with all these random changes its almost a completely different game

[uneven osprey]

I keep telling yall keep holding the line. Bro is going to follow his vision for another month and then return it to what it used to be. He already did with the modifiers.

[slow kestrel]

Yeah when the player base fell hard i think he understood that what he wants isnt viable

Someone in steam reviews said the game gave their computer malware?

[scarlet sedge]

I definitely tried, was even playing like 3 weeks ago when the game was objectively at it’s worst and I think that is what makes me not wanna play rn

[uneven osprey]

Yup, I stopped the second this semi-wipe began, but I’m still going to wait until he goes back on his non-visible vision.

[spare flare]

REMOVE TEAMS FROM SOLO

[slow kestrel]

The anti vision vision

[uneven osprey]

🤣

[rough drum]

so we just gonna leave the Y button on in solos then? what the frock

[slow kestrel]

How else will the rats cheese

[clear jasper]

I like it so I can play duos, but I do feel bad for all the solos we kill

[slow kestrel]

Or considering the fact that ill hold my hand out then just get slaughtered by whoever doesnt want to team up

[slim tulip]

REMOVE SOLO'S

[slow kestrel]

Are you on SDFs payroll? lol

[wraith wigeon]

Hi, I am new to gaming. Someone suggested I get "bis gear" and "wreck timmies?"

[steady python]

please just put solo's to goblin caves only like originally intended

[slow kestrel]

XD

[hardy stump]

so, you guys think flip flop on random trio mm will come together with flip flop on handshake, or shortly after?

the vision is a circle, jump forward and fall backwards after all

[slow kestrel]

Issa like a circle

[obtuse yacht]

Return Solo mode pls!

SOLO:

adjective
done by one person alone; unaccompanied.

[winter grove]

Did they remove region selection?

[scenic fiber]

so when is duos comin back cuz trios aint it

like remove trios and bring back duos thats it.

[scarlet sedge]

Seems like you can still team in solos right now. Lame

[scenic fiber]

classic vision move ngl

[low kelp]

629 viewers of dark and darker on twitch. This game is so dead and the devs deserve to go broke. Everyone with remaining hope I urge you to give up and play something else and let them just go broke

[slow kestrel]

Wouldn't that just cause the game to die and then none of us can play

[low kelp]

Game is already in the grave its just closing the lid on the coffin in acceptance

[slow kestrel]

I mean the player numbers are up from last month, and things seem to slowly be going back to how we want it. If we just up and kill it then there is no chance of it reverting to a game people actually want to play

[inland sandal]

bro these guys are just haters, they dont want to reach an understanding, they just want to complain. idk what good reason there is to engage in this ish

[slow kestrel]

Yeah youre right, I just hit my first bowl of the day and was wondering why someone would think that is the appropriate course of action

[blazing obsidian]

Unfortunately it's still the best of its genre on the market. Once all these other extraction games come out of play tests, then Iron Mace will truly understand their mistakes

[low kelp]

Okay I’ve been playing since the early play tests I’ve just accepted it for what it is and the devs for what they are but have fun with your dead game

Player count check?

[slow kestrel]

Lol

[cosmic swan]

6k it's like a 40% compared to pre solo removal

[slow kestrel]

Its also barely 10am on the west coast lol

https://steamcharts.com/app/2016590

[untold lynx]

i went into solos with 40 gear score and got jumped by a duo with 400 gear score. at least i had the chance to outplay them tho 👍

[slow kestrel]

But did you press Y

[untold lynx]

holy this game is actually so trash now because of sdf. cant wait until he censors his name from chat so you cant talk bad abt him anymore

[low kelp]

He couldn’t even do solos right. He made it where you can team in solos and previously made it so hr teaming will get you banned. He aint got a clue whats he’s doing he’s just a fool.

The man don’t deserve any more money from any of us is my point because he’s so unbelievably incompetent and deluded he don’t deserve it.

[wraith wigeon]

they should make it so you don't take damage when offering a handshake

[slow kestrel]

I think the fact that ironmace has only 97 employees can also be taken into account

[silver smelt]

think what are the side effects

[slow kestrel]

Ill jut hold my hand out at 1hp and run to an exit

[graceful storm]

Hmm people would never abuse that

[wraith wigeon]

bro nobody on that team be "thinking what are the side effects"

[slow kestrel]

Can you elaborate

[zenith bramble]

i traded a unique ox pendant with 2.5% regular interaction speed, 4 max health, 1.4% physical damage bonus, 1.3% action speed and 1.5% armor pen for a golden key, it was a L or W honest question

[sonic maple]

ARENA SUCKS

[wraith wigeon]

you're just not playing ranger

[sonic maple]

[wraith wigeon]

I think I may have invented a new move which makes my character impervious to damage

[clever mauve]

ppl who team in solo q u have a sad life and are unskilled for need 3v1

[slow kestrel]

It should be: you see someone not on your team when entering dungeon, fight or run

[clever mauve]

yeah it's really fun to start a "solo" game and end in perma 1v3

The "vision" from sdf is trash

[slow kestrel]

I dont agree with it either. How are you going to have solos where people can join up to become more than solo. Bring back teaming in solos as a bannable offnese

[storm light]

When is wipe?

[cosmic swan]

Late august

[clever mauve]

it was a sarcasm dude... no solo players like to team up in solo q

[slow kestrel]

I was agreeing with you?

[brave oriole]

the dad knight discord is a wasteland.

[clever mauve]

sorry my english is poor my friend

[slow kestrel]

No worries the English language is pretty messed up even for a born speaker like me

[wraith wigeon]

devs already wiped their butts with the game several times this season

[brave oriole]

its ok it even happens to native speakers but also u should get better at english because english speakers are better than everyone else so, yeah, yknow. 🙄

[clever mauve]

Hold the line together against sdf guys

[slow kestrel]

Hold the line brother

[outer dagger]

The only lines are going up IM's nose atm

[brave oriole]

i'm honestly not suuuper against the teaming in solos stuff now that i've played a bunch of solo gc, even though it's terrible for like, the health of the solo playerbase in general, it's been kinda fun getting into 1v2's and 2v2's consistently, rather than the 3x3x1x2 ruins moshpits we used to see

especially in ruins bro ruins was diabolical during the trios only era it was straight diabolical.

[clever mauve]

i'm actually playing ruins it's only trio ppl no one is playing solo it's garbage

[slow kestrel]

All i can think about is fighting living armour and a trio coming in as im mid clear

[clever mauve]

try to solo boss 3 ppl are perma runningn on u

[clever mauve]

same for gosht king

[slow kestrel]

Now I wait for my childless friends to wake up and get on to opent the game

[winter warren]

Is Goblin Merchant broken for anyone else

[cosmic swan]

It doesn't give back gear in HR and Normal now, since a couple week acutally

[slow kestrel]

If youre expecting unlooted loot back after death they took it out. more risk

[outer dagger]

Goblin Merchant is on maternity leave

[slow kestrel]

Is it a boy or girl

[winter warren]

damn thats bootycheeks

[outer dagger]

A lot of both. Goblins have litters :/

[slow kestrel]

A litter?!?!!? LMAO

[peak stream]

@glad thunder EY BRO WHAT THE HECK I START IN SOLO AND I FOUND A TRIOO

[outer dagger]

Gotta keep those caves populated somehow!
Not a lot of players recently

[slow kestrel]

What is the time from conception to birth? Is it a live birth or do they lay eggs? and what is the conception experience like?

[subtle heart]

so dumb, they bring back solo but u can team up...

[peak stream]

broooo thats bad @glad thunder unintall the dark and darker

[subtle heart]

the opposite, i think if they d play it, as devs, they make some better choices

[peak stream]

bro i killed one and a barb come to me with a felling axe and i look hes in team

[cosmic swan]

They do play, but they just have weird thinking and don't seems that good at the game

[slow kestrel]

I mean if we learned anything from pirate software its that even if devs play their own game it wont make a difference

[grave cave]

they did say that teaming up in solos was only enabled "for now" so they probably are going to remove it

[slow kestrel]

A temporary shit hitting the fan for fun

[cosmic swan]

I really hope so. With next patch it would be good

[slow kestrel]

It would be cool if the next wipe brings way better changes

[wraith wigeon]

bring back adventure mode and name it something cool like timmy town

[grave cave]

or maybe I just hallucinated that

[cosmic swan]

Like swimming? xD

[peak stream]

i really go to leave this game after a 4k hours playing, HOW IN SOLO CAN U TEAM WITH 2 MANS AND DESTROY IN 3vs1

[slow kestrel]

I wouldnt be supprised XD

[subtle heart]

It seems like they dont. or at least drop the crakpipe before u play

[cosmic swan]

"The Vision"

[peak stream]

BYE DARK AND DARKER

[cosmic swan]

Come back next wipe

[sand sedge]

Im sorry it feels that way, recently our team has grown pretty significantly so weve been able to fill in where people previously did not.

[brave oriole]

thats real, maybe once i hit 500 hours i'll consider becoming a knight myself

[sand sedge]

I think minimum requirement is 1k hours? It says on the application i could be wrong

[brave oriole]

ahh well, it's whatevs. that just means i get 3-4 more months worth of knights to play with (if the game survives that long)

[sand sedge]

yeah man try it out! awesome team all our guys are dope

[slow kestrel]

Every time i refresh the community page there are less players

[next iron]

dont say "all" some of those dudes are balls of ego and dorrito dust lmfao

[sand sedge]

Well everyone ive met has been cool, if you have any complaints regarding certain knights you are able to bring it up to chyunkus

[next iron]

idk who that is, i have 7k hours im not in need of a knight, was just relaying what i have heard

[slow kestrel]

type the name in the search bar of this server

[next iron]

nty

[slow kestrel]

Hold the line

[peak stream]

:,c i want dark and darker back dont dark and vision

[next iron]

eh if the game dies maybe i get my life back XD

[slow kestrel]

Hey man the rebels had hope when the empire was strong

[sand sedge]

🤷

[next iron]

you right

[slow kestrel]

It may be slow but I believe we can convince SDF to follow our wants for the game. Call me a hopeless romantic

[next iron]

i was going to call you something else XD

[slow kestrel]

Lmao well i appreciate you holding your tounge

[subtle heart]

xd

[next iron]

just gotta take it easy on that pipe XD itll rot your brain

[slow kestrel]

And NGL i probably would deserve it XD

[next iron]

we probably all do

[wraith wigeon]

Which vendor sells "wrecked?" Another player suggested I get wrecked.

[slow kestrel]

For putting as many hours as we have into it (plus 30$) yes

[slow kestrel]

The squire should have an epic wrecked in his stock

[next iron]

7000 tracked hours, idk about before blacksmith and through the torent prob close to 8k lifetime

[hushed ice]

I don’t mean to sound rude, just genuinely curious; What was the developer for inventory systems responsible for implementing in the last year?

[wraith wigeon]

thanks, found it next to the legendary cringe

[next iron]

he left the company

[slow kestrel]

Just above the "perfect vision"

[warped anvil]

i just want fills back in trios, as a solos/trios enjoyer being able to just casually flow between the two was dope

[hushed ice]

I know, I just want to know what all he’d done so I can understand what that means for the player base.

[cosmic swan]

pretty much nothing within the last year

[next iron]

inventory never changed in the last year, when he left we could finally move things in our inventory while sitting, thats the only hcange

[slow kestrel]

my mouse finger hurts from moving items around

[clever mauve]

alright it's all done for me i was enjoying to get solo back but isn't solo q it's just trio anyway, no more gear bracket u are with grey gear they are full leg/unique gear @glad thunder gj nice vision u killed the game i'm done i will never back now, just going to make a bad review on steam

[cunning jolt]

Im convinced this is just a lame excuse at this point. Its been like a year sine their "inventory guy left", like just get a new guy immediately and rush out medbags, quivers and util bags! It would be such a great quality of life change for this game

[cosmic swan]

No? It's been maybe 2 month

[hushed ice]

Yeah, I feel like there hasn’t been any change so when I read that I thought “surely I’m just missing some important things he’s done” lol

[cunning jolt]

People been asking for it forever though. How was this not at the top of their priorities?

[wraith wigeon]

next update:

• adds uninstall icon to desktop

[cosmic swan]

1 Month and a half #sdfs-kitchen message

[hasty marlin]

This is a loaded question but WHY did we re-add solos to the game but allow teaming/grouping in it, and pretty much at the same time disable matchmaking for trios?? What is the thought process behind this at all??

[primal pier]

i love when new players try out darker and darker just to get flattened in solos by a trio in bis gear

[candid folio]

i love when i queue up for a solo game and i get gang graped by a trio

[cunning jolt]

I personally am having way more fun in this solos mode than loading into 1v3 against premade trios but maybe thats just me

[slow kestrel]

The thought process is "if you have no friends you go in alone"

[cosmic swan]

Because they don't care what people want. SDF listen to what he want to hear or some random thing said by god know who

[hasty marlin]

It shouldn't be one or the other, though, lol.. there is now a trios and a solos mode. Solo is filled with people just queue sniping their friends to team up in solos anyway due to low pop, and trios is just.. solos, and hope you can find a not full pre-made?

[slow kestrel]

We can call it SDFs vision vision, he only sees what he wants

[hasty marlin]

Every HR map I've loaded into to try and boss in solos, I am met with people no-micing and already in premades of 3 that contest and just shit over my chances of contesting a boss as a solos player in the solos queue at all

[primal pier]

pov SDF is sectretly one blind man

[cunning jolt]

Ive only seen this once in my like 50 games of solo mode. Its not as rampant as it seems and even so you can find solos to team with way easier now and you stand a chance against those premade players. In the trios mode it was like 90% of the time you ran into a full juiced trio and died, now its a lot easier to team up and make it out. Honestly starting to see the vision of the in game team up system with this solo mode. It was not working in 1v3 trios only

[cosmic swan]

The Vision! I've lost any hope about SDF. As long as he's here the game won't survive

[hasty marlin]

dude it's great that you've seen it once in your 50 games of solo mode but i've literally played 70+ games since it came out and almost every single run i encounter at least one or two full trios teams in solos so i don't know if you're just super lucky or if the rest of the playerbase is unlucky LOL

[subtle heart]

i get at least one or two teams a game

[hasty marlin]

but i mean it's great that you're enjoying it i guess i just the rest of the playerbase is shit out of luck because it's literally optimal and encouraged to team in solos now

[cunning jolt]

Ok but in solos in the past the boss was already heavily contested and when it died you often had like 5 people run into the room immediately to chase down whoever killed it. This aint much different but now you can pick up some homies to fight back against them

[obtuse yacht]

no diferent with actual normal trio mode where u can enter alone and make friends in the way

[hasty marlin]

in solos in the past i farmed bosses every wipe because i was good at PvP and knew my way around the classes i played, and i could contest and would contest regularly the boss and whoever else was fighting it beacuse it wasn't 3v1

[slow kestrel]

oh yeah let me just hold my hand out voulnerable to any player

[cosmic swan]

He literally splited Trio in 2 Trio queue xD

[obtuse yacht]

Solo means SOLO , not do trios and make the people call it solo. WEIRDO

[slow kestrel]

would you like to play trios or trios?

[subtle heart]

I WANT THE 0-24 BACKKKKKKKKKKKK

[cunning jolt]

Except it is different. Everyone loads in on a relatively even ground and needs to scramble to find teammates. In the trios only it was way too often you die as a solo before you can even find a duo or solo to team up with

[hasty marlin]

its just crazy that so many people were crying and begging for solos to come back and their solution was "alright guys, we're adding solos back but WITH A TWIST! now you can and SHOULD team in it!!"

[obtuse yacht]

still not being solo, the diference is the posibility to make a pre-team .

[slow nymph]

add true solos and duos back nobody likes this trash

[hasty marlin]

dont worry guys we're using the test server from now on to gauge interest

[cosmic swan]

When all they have to do is that https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/591702/incentivize-using-the-test-server-by-rewarding-and-including-players and make it available for steam user of course

[cunning jolt]

Guys, they said they want to balance the game around trios and thats fair. Before in solos it was 60% rat rogues running around because that class was just better in true 1v1s but now any and every class is viable if you find some teammates to complement your class.

[hasty marlin]

Are you SDF on an alt account?

[slow kestrel]

frfr

[cosmic swan]

Just pick a side, a Solo and Trio queue who're really Solo and Trio or go Trio only where you can't even join alone

[grand shadow]

solos has no place in this game, they need to get rid of it

[hasty marlin]

aint no way am i queueing up in a BiS 10k+ kit in hopes that i can be viable because I might be able to team up with somebody in solos that complements my class so i don't get ran down by a team of trios

[cunning jolt]

Get your money up gear fear ass mofo

[cosmic swan]

I could agree if they stop trying to make 1vs3 and solo player in trio queue viable. Just make Trios actual trio. You can't join alone, if you don't have a team you're matched with random

[slow kestrel]

I can fund a 10k gear set in like 5 raids

[hasty marlin]

i mean your reasoning to justify the teaming is stupid LOL im running kits regardless i mean the idea that youo saying classes are viable now because you can hope to team up with somebody is so incredibly out of touch LMFAOO

nobody even WANTS solos to be balanced, make the game with the focus of fun. nobody is asking for solos to be balanced, literally ever save the proper balancing for TRIOS and just leave solos as a barebones mode

[obtuse yacht]

but when i put money in the project was because i can play withy my mate in duos, and alone when he sleep. So they put the mode to make money and delete it? In Spain this is scam. in Korea maybe is bussines equal than solo means trios. dont know .. XD

[cunning jolt]

I just mean that now solos are filled with all different classes where before it was almost exclusively rogues and druids and the occasional barb, maybe a warlock boss farmer

[hasty marlin]

looting treasure pile in solos, first game on after 4 hours, get ran down by a trios team of barbarians while playing wizard, crazy that i found your 1 in 50 games

[blazing pulsar]

just report the teams in solos for teaming. it is a bannable offence afterall

[steel marsh]

stop allowing 2 of each class into arena#

[slow kestrel]

There is a report system now

[subtle heart]

isnt it just for HR?

[void edge]

teamming in solos is a W, the game is in the best place its been ever.

[hasty marlin]

i actually agree

[fading wigeon]

Idk why they haven’t already removed it , no point in having solos if people can still team against me, this game has no counters to teaming other than being better, I just don’t understand the stubbornness of the devs

[cunning jolt]

Listen man. I also wish that this semi wipe never even happened but if this is the direction theyre taking the game I think this solos mode is a big positive step forward towards sdf's vision.

[slow kestrel]

Anyways Im gonna go play Bloons TD6

[steel marsh]

same *

[blazing pulsar]

id say teaming in a solo lobby is the definition of unfair teaming. just cuz its apart of the game doesnt mean its not cheating, for example i report all barbarian players for cheating...

[subtle heart]

well it a in game feature afterall

[slow kestrel]

10 AM PST almost 5k players now 4k

[blazing pulsar]

indeed, so is the barb class, cheaters non the less...

[hasty marlin]

to be honest my favorite part of the party up feature in-game is almost every single person i run into gets to complain to me about how much they hate it

[cunning jolt]

ok doomer

[fierce violet]

Why the fk do solos even wanna play the game isn't in a serious state and it's gonna wipe

[subtle heart]

teaming wasnt bannable even before the team up emote in normals

[slow kestrel]

To loot up before their friends get on

[fierce violet]

wrong, solo players do no have friends

[slow kestrel]

I play solo and when my friends wake up we will trio. so when they do get on i have enough to build a kit

[blazing pulsar]

indeed, but as long as there is an option to report for unfair teaming, i will wear it out on those who party up in SOLOs. that is the literal definition of unfair teaming.

[subtle heart]

nobody cares. i tried look into it a while back when i kept having to 1v2/3 in normals

[slow kestrel]

Back in the first few months of the game coming out i remember seeing teams of 6 in trios

[hasty marlin]

nvm guys

[smoky jetty]

🤣

[obtuse yacht]

sad i must to paste this from the dictionary every day:
solo
adjective
done by one person alone; unaccompanied.

adverb
for or by one person alone.

There is no discussion they call it solo mode, but is not. RETURN SOLO MODE PLS

[slow kestrel]

I dont think SDF owns a dictionary

[smoky jetty]

Bring back solos or else we quit

[obtuse yacht]

sadly

[tribal plaza]

whens the next cash grab theif??

[smoky jetty]

Game will die before we even make it into new season. Bring back solo

Nobody asks for these weird changed @glad thunder

[slow kestrel]

Solo is now solo, duo and trio combined as is trios, both modes are the same

[fierce violet]

That guy's inbox has 52000 pings right now. Meanwhile you get banned for pinging a dev on most discords.

[hushed forum]

SDF is killing the game on purpose so they dont have to pay out the lawsuit. Just gonna bankrupt the company

[smoky jetty]

Solo is trios and we got another trios so basically 2 trio modes

[slow kestrel]

i have not heard of this lawsuit

[smoky jetty]

I thought about that aswell

[slow kestrel]

https://www.chosun.com/english/industry-en/2025/02/14/KO63QJ6JWNE67NSJNK2CR4KX7M/ Ironmace lost the lawsuit

[hushed forum]

Only thing that makes sense. I refuse to believe some can be this so far off the walls out of touch and out of reality with their player base.

[slow kestrel]

A South Korean court has ruled partially in favor of Nexon in its trade secrets lawsuit against Ironmace over the game Dark and Darker, ordering the smaller studio to pay 8.5 billion won ($6.4 million) in damages.

The court ruled on Feb. 13 that while Dark and Darker did not infringe on Nexon’s copyright for an unreleased project, Ironmace did use internal planning documents and source code without authorization.

[smoky jetty]

He probalbly tries to pull off a dungeonborne

[slow kestrel]

The lawsuit stems from allegations that former Nexon employees took internal project materials and source code to develop “Dark and Darker,” a medieval fantasy game. Ironmace, founded in October 2021 by CEO Terence Park Seung-ha and former Nexon developers, now has a staff of about 120 to 130.

[hasty marlin]

who else here accidentally killing their in-lobby teamed up solos by accident during teamfights because no nameplates

[heavy flare]

can someone explain why NACCI is ok but NACCIPIILO is not appropriate character name to use? :D

[wraith wigeon]

you just gotta go in swinging the war maul

[heavy flare]

PIILO literally means a hiding place so idk whats so bad about that word

[slow kestrel]

In case some people want to read it?

[obtuse yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/montante-greatsword-zweihander-schlachtschwert-gif-11272107010683613468

how to get a report for your non-solo mode team" aka Zweihänder

[hasty marlin]

i really should be doing that..

[light valve]

what classes are good rn

[slow kestrel]

Did i miss something the guy i replied to deleted messgaes lol

[wraith wigeon]

bard

[smoky jetty]

Bring back solos

[hasty marlin]

Guys I was wrong the vision is actually hilarious.

Running ruins normals, I die to a fighter as sorc - decide I want to play Wizard instead. I load back into the SAME GAME LOBBY, as a new class, and make it to the same tile, the guy is still there fighting a barb.

I tell the barb to team up with me, then we RUN IN 2v1 in solos to kill the guy who killed me on another class, in the same lobby, previously.

THIS IS PEAK GAMEPLAY.

[fierce violet]

Agree the peak is gameplay remove all gear

[hasty marlin]

Nothing like running up to someone who's mid-fight with somebody else and saying "Hey, want to team up and kill him? in a solos queue.

[latent perch]

what do i play with a druid duo?

[light shore]

Sorcs are overtuned AF lets be real

[light shore]

sorcs are druids are beyond imbalanced enjoy

[tropic rain]

jajaja, sorc are nothign compared to rangers

[rocky mist]

3 Barb with 160 hp teaming is a win ?

[light shore]

they have ranged as well expect they have a teleport and stun and a knockup and a knocback but yeah you right lmao

[mellow ice]

I'd rather fight a ranger as a cleric or fighter than a sorc.

[hasty marlin]

every class is overtuned except for the one im currently playing

[mellow ice]

sorc player detected.

[fierce violet]

get out with the boring contrian crap you're not impressing anyone

[tropic rain]

It's the same, u will never catch up to a ranger as cleric or fighter if ranger has agi, and if you catch up, they have a shotgun. as fighter u can still kill sorc if u have a longbow

[mellow ice]

the issue with ranger isnt just shotgun, its that bows are too strong, base damage, and the level design gives NO COVER!

[smoky jetty]

Everybody that plays barb right now is a coward. It’s busted asf and way too op

[last bison]

Odds that IronMallet does another "Seasonal DLC" to sell back features they've removed?

[rocky mist]

U god damn right

[smoky jetty]

Even in squire barb you can 1 tap a bis dude in artifacts if you manage to headshot with reckless strike

[mellow ice]

the fact that the game costs as much as it does, combined with having to spend money for basic emotes that would be free on ANY other game tells a lot. IM wears a mask of "oh shucks, i'm a lil guy" indie dev shit, but underlying that is the reality, that its a company obsessed first and foremost with milking as much cash from the userbase as they can.

[rocky mist]

Yeah ! At least they need to nerf his vigor, and withdraw this fking move speed reduction on his roar

[nimble hearth]

Goober

[proper parrot]

so do yall just sit in here and cry all day?

[smoky jetty]

Barb has too much health and does way too much damage while being also fast on foot. Noob simple W holding key class

[last bison]

You've got like 60 messages crying in here in the last 2 days lol

[smoky jetty]

Coward

[proper parrot]

yeah after a year of not playing comming back and seeing this is crazy but i got it out of my system by this point but man everytime hoping in its the same old thing

[tropic rain]

For real, playing versus rangers is just disgusting

[wraith wigeon]

what does it mean that the game is "cooked?" Does that mean it's polished and well-refined?

[last bison]

Cooked can mean many different things, but in this case it likely means that it's doomed or soon to be doomed. Like someone who gets pulled over by the police while intoxicated would be cooked, so to speak. A game that removes the only parts of it that the community likes, would be cooked

[wraith wigeon]

oh, so like "sdf's career as a developer is cooked?"

[smoky jetty]

Game will die before we even make it into new season

[last bison]

Yes

[smoky jetty]

@glad thunder Revert everything and bring us back to 2 wipes ago

[last bison]

I suppose the distinction would be "He's cooked" vs "He cooked" the first one is bad, the second one is good

[wraith wigeon]

what's the deal with "the vision?" Is sdf like Steve Jobs or something?

[jagged marten]

barbs need a nerf man

[smoky jetty]

Yep

[rustic oar]

Y’all remember when teaming was bannable

[last bison]

SDF has an idea for what kind of game he would like to make. Naturally not everyone agrees that his perfect game would be as great as he thinks but that's the case for every game. You cannot make a "perfect game" someone will always find a reason to complain. However the issue here is that SDF will compromise what the players want for his personal view of what the game should be. In essence, making 90% of people unhappy to appeal to 10%

[rustic oar]

Hope he runs out of money

Servers are 50k to keep up and it’s not like new players are coming to the game

[tardy nimbus]

Is there a way to find a teammate on this discord

[strange creek]

Knowing if the game is worth installing or if I'm going to be chained without understanding or progressing, and therefore, even if I spend hours on it, without the slightest fun

[hasty marlin]

@wraith wigeon to tl;dr this, SDF references his extremely unpopular changes by calling it his "vision" so everyone makes the meme of the "vision" because every worst patch ever released is followed by justification that it's his "vision" (his own words)

personally i am a firm believer in this vision, just let him cook 👍

[fierce saddle]

https://streamable.com/ywi1kd nige game bro

[indigo wagon]

@glad thunder you are so lost this solos update is so awful wow lol i hope everyone quits

what are u thinking my man

3 warlocks pre making a team and teaming in inferno lol

[obsidian bolt]

Those are the POOR SOULS who decided to not TAKE A BREAK for a year and have DELT with all the CONSTANT FLUX ……..see you just came back and felt the need to cry….. IMAGINE if you never left …… lmao

[strange creek]

6.7 => THE GAME GOT MMR 😮

[merry blaze]

guys is wyvern buged hes not dropping artefacts>?

[analog summit]

Zoltrak

[twin pier]

When your stars are baked and your rivers fly
Do you ever believe you were stuck in the sky?
When your castle breaks and your feet are dry
Do you ever believe you were stuck in the sky?

[winged narwhal]

whats the drop chance for bones? ive killed ATLEAST 50 so far and not even 1 has been dropped

[obtuse yacht]

bad luck try in ice caves and luck potion

[winged narwhal]

thats what im doing </3

[rocky mist]

Barb main=trash kid

[sour hornet]

Watched a full gear rouge just get 1 shotted by a skeleton from archer while fully geared….🤣 this guy is wild. What a way to loose a 3k gear set

[twin pier]

3k set is nothing but yea rogue is shit lol

[slender mica]

this game would be great if it werent for The Dirty Knee Growers that team on solos

[lusty sequoia]

dont make me feel worse about my class bro lol

[sour hornet]

I think he only had like 100 hp hahaha

[lusty sequoia]

BRO JUST TAKE OFF THE IN GAME TEAM BULLSHIT IN SOLOS SO WE CAN FUCKING PLAY WITHOUT GETTING GANKED

[severe coyote]

Hey sdf if you don’t mind continuing the flip flop of your own vision and just make solo a solo only as it was always supposed to be

[twin pier]

just complain for another week and u might get a change lol

[lusty sequoia]

im hoping so lol

[slender mica]

damn basketball people always teamin, those 430 credit scores if you know what i mean

[coral ibex]

ok now im done, people just making look like they fighting but in reality they teamed up in solo high rollers.

if sdf thinks trolling solo players that 100% is majority is good idea well time to delete

[bright latch]

so excited for water maps

[hushed crane]

I'm sorry for these questions, how to fight against druid? Some crazy druids are solo my whole team I'm in a shock right now O_o flexible moving killing machine

[floral cipher]

So i come back to the game after 1 year no gs right now? for what i see

[rigid yarrow]

WHY DOES DARK REFLECTION TRIGGER SOUL COLLECTORS STACKS?

[weary harbor]

Soooo... not played in like.. 8 months and just saw the Steam Reviews.. what's up with that?

[hoary garnet]

do you lose items in arena if you dont find them

[analog summit]

haha

[peak bison]

Leckt mir alle meine eier

[winged narwhal]

why do merchants just dont take my quest items sometimes

[coral ibex]

april 20k online, may 15k online, june 10k, july 4k online, august 1k? how many month in a row sdf wants to lose online before we get good update. i cannot

[slow kestrel]

the vision

[mental garden]

I'm shamelessly looking for ideas and feedback for a game in this genre so PM me if you'd like to participate in that. Inb4 ban ❤️

[civic finch]

copy this game, look at the patch notes. don't play spreadsheet simulator with balancing changes no one cares about = success

[mental garden]

I wouldn't directly copy, gotta have some unique ideas too. Also Mistfall Hunter combat is ❤️

[long kraken]

when is SOLO (real solo!!) coming back?! everytime u only find 2-3 player who team. this game is dead Realtalk... thank you devs for sdf for killing ur game.

[civic finch]

if you're serious just talk with some of the DAD streamers for creative ideas, Dark has done a lot of things well, it just never followed through. I think you can get a lot of help from seeing what the community responded to well.

[mental garden]

Yes, thank you, a few of the big names from Dungeonborne are helping too.

[dense shuttle]

wqhens the next fucking update

[long kraken]

they earned eneugh money so now they can drive the game to the wall... you doing great, just continue not hearing what the player who keep ur banks accounts full say and maybe u can make a second season pass

[coral ibex]

happens with every game, why they cant just sell it to someone who wants to keep game alive

[long kraken]

i hope he sell it, dad with him has no future. the streamer should by it, patch it back to its prime and build a walk of shame full of pregnand goblins

[hoary beacon]

time to send some bots in this dead game

[vocal bramble]

Tumble rogue

[long kraken]

dear sdf, i challenge you to fight me tomorrow at 10 utc in goblin caves ! winner takes it all, no kicking and if u dont show up u have to HEAR what ur community say and change the game how we , the players like it. if u win u can give us a season pass for 60 usd and i buy it

[void kestrel]

i love teaming in solos, it's hilarious

[indigo wagon]

I’m done until they make solos actually solo and add names back in HR this is ridiculous wake up @sdf

[fierce violet]

Wow the game just gets worse and worse. Stuck in match making currently in progress bug can't even enter the game or lobby. GG this game is literally just a broken loading screen now. I want my money back.

[long kraken]

sdf cant play solo so he have do it like he does

[ruby mural]

EVERYONE, please stop playing this game. Sdf does not deserve money for this. He banned people permanently for teaming and then builds teaming into the game. He will never truly listen to the community EVER. I apologize to the other devs working at ironmace but I sincerely hope you find another job very VERY soon.

[crisp wren]

I am playing and not giving him any money (?)

[void kestrel]

solos are back, so I'm happy

[ruby mural]

Being on the game server is making him money. That’s a fact.

[ruby mural]

Except for the fact that you can team and not get banned. So no solos aren’t back because most of the time not everyone is a solo in solos yuh feel?

[void kestrel]

i like teaming

[ruby mural]

You must be sdf

[tidal star]

druid is severely overpowered in all roles when wearing gear. when are we going to address this ?? @glad thunder

[smoky jetty]

Remove Trios

[winged narwhal]

make kobalds stone axe 1 shot to the leg

[past lark]

i hope nexon wins the rights so we can have better cosmetics and actual content instead of the pre made unity slop im steals

[ruby mural]

Brother if you are unaware of how game development works, watch a YouTube video on it.

[tidal star]

tbh bro im there with you, but if nexon won the game would prob just go end of service

[smoky jetty]

Bring back solos

[wispy warren]

is there a way to leave a party after youve joined one?

[past lark]

kill your teammates

[wispy warren]

but i went down a red and hes not going with

[past lark]

oh then it doesn’t matter

[ruby mural]

Please stop playing this game

[long kraken]

whoever teams in solos should go play tetris

[tidal star]

THE ONLY WAY TO PLAY DARK AND DARKER IS PLAY RANGER, DRUID, OR SORCERER. SDF HATES ANYONE WHO DOESNT PLAY THOSE CLASSES AND WANTS THEM TO QUIT

[gusty sierra]

Who would've thought that what the game needed was two trio qs, trio an trio with extra steps, truly only a visionary could've figured that one out.

[tidal star]

I HOPE SDF GETS HIS ASS BEAT

[tidal star]

you HAVE to team in solos, SDF engineered this way. dont die and lose gear because of pride

[next sun]

ye or if you dont craft

[opal terrace]

can you victory strike with shield bash?

[tidal star]

no thats not true, you can bring any gear even if bought off the market into arena and you wont lose it

[naive storm]

No you can buy a kit. They changed it. just click on arena it tells you all items retained on death.

[tidal star]

i hope sdf goes to prison for a long time

[opal terrace]

can you victory strike with shield bash?

[long kraken]

if i give up my pride to become one of the problems ... who am i to critik the game . if i become one of the tetris player... who am i to challenge sdf for the dev status... DONT LOOSE YOUR PRIDE and maybe .. just maybe one day we see a dev blog wehre i tell you that everyone is gonna be alright

[tidal star]

SURE BRO go die to trios then have fun

[tall jasper]

Dawg some mod gotta check #dnd-fan-art 😭😭🙏

[long kraken]

sure , at least i dont say its trash and then do it myself

[tidal star]

everything that is "meta" needs to be used and abused to show to the devs that it IS a problem

[tall jasper]

Obviously bringing back ONLY solos would benefit the game, there’s a reason the player base isn’t back

[hardy stump]

imagine the delusion actually thinking players who left will come back, that's not how broken trust works, unless you're really into abusive relationships

[proper parrot]

some of yall need to learn how to extract

[hardy stump]

you people literally are "I know he beats me, and I end up in hospital once a month, but I know I can change him and we will love each other, why would he say sorry otherwise?" type and firmly believe others think so too

[limber crow]

is the game back yet ? i’ve been seeing stuff on twitter