game-discussion

[worthy atlas]

the problem with multiclass was its implementation, the way they put it you could pretty much have all perks + skills any way you wanted, they should have limited the exportation hability and perks of other classes, such as 1 perk + 1 skill from other class or 2 perks + 1 skill max

[gloomy latch]

100%, and i do support the return of it in moderation. i just was being a bit extra with that last bit. Still, i think in the mean time it would serve as a unique game mode for restricted amounts of time, just as something different

[tribal zodiac]

I tried to suggest this.
PvE = drops max up to rare drops
Normals = closed
Solo/Trio HR = monsters should get adjusted and if you go deeper, then monsters should be stronger.

[frail bison]

thats too logical

[worthy atlas]

the multiclass system is a great idea, it allows for unique builds, the problem is loss of class identity, which when you can export other class skills fully loses their identity

[wooden gulch]

honestly they are around, but most average person don't understand them and rush them, typic. 9/10 time I try running solo in trio for meming and having fun interaction I just get spammed by arrow before I can finish gobo dance

[gentle stratus]

These guys are Olympian level athletes at fucking their own game. Ive never seen anything like it- its almost beautiful

[gusty sierra]

+1 and enforce the no teaming rule with bans

[tribal zodiac]

Multiclassing is stupid af.
This game need skill tree, to make builds/classes variability, but keep class indentity.

[frail bison]

I wish i could be a fly on the wall for their standup meetings

[worthy atlas]

only on high roller, on normals i think its ok to team specially for pve

[wooden gulch]

multiclassing is always stupid, just look at dnd. Basic classes are sht for the most

[gloomy latch]

agree, except i could do with pve giving up to epic, seeing as unique drops are more common and more reasonable than last patch at the same time. That alone would make farming in HR still worth, but that's just my take.

I'm also thinking of the poor noobs stepping into HR and getting mauled by someone in full legendary. The gear gap between the two could be closer i think

[tired furnace]

multiclass is shit but the game is already shit so its just a shit fest a shit party

[lunar fable]

Is it true they really added back +all and +hp???

[gloomy latch]

like a couple seasons ago now, right? +hp actually got mostly removed from gear recently

[wooden gulch]

this endless quests of an esport competitive game lead to nothing. I'm not happy with actualy 1v2 or v3 state of solo, not at all, and I never rush solo when I'm not, tbs, allowing fun interaction in the game is what they are trying to bring back here. Unfortunnatly, wont happen without the players active participation

[lunar fable]

we had no modifiers just a few weeks ago what do you mean a few seasons ago

[patent plover]

they should close the servers, fix the game and then release it out of early access or sum

[gloomy latch]

well +all has had its specific time and place in the game. no attributes has had a very short-lived lifespan in this game because it's... very bad

[worthy atlas]

nah

[tribal zodiac]

Well I wish for self found items, market only for gems/consumables and craftables.
This would solve so much problems.
But full PvP sweaty ppl would cry, cuz they dont like looting and crawling (which is main point of this game lol).

[patent plover]

ong games dead but like idk mabye it would help

[worthy atlas]

what we need is the new season with new map and a true wipe, thats all.

[lunar fable]

The solo change is ridiculous but effectively makes both queues the same so I’m not that worried about it, but if they just added +all and +hp back in I don’t think I can handle more flip flopping.

[wooden gulch]

agreed

[winged echo]

ANY OF THE new quests got emotes or cosmetics as rewards? can someone tell me pls

[prisma lava]

Or, we can take the small W we just got with solos re-added, and chill for a day or two?

[worthy atlas]

decent take

[lunar fable]

Solos are back. But people can still make parties in the dungeon. So it’s become who can fast form a trio and stomp everyone else faster, making it essentially the same as the trios queue

[prisma lava]

Thats a playerbase issue right there. People are gonna be shitty.

[wooden gulch]

yeah, let's just try a bit.
Honestly had some good interactions too. Had some bad.
I mean trio in solo rushing an obvious solo that is crouching feels bad, no matter which side you are on... but hey, people accountability

[plucky fjord]

why is trios so dead

[patent plover]

actually how has the game gotten so much worse since pt3

[smoky jetty]

BRING BACK SOLOS

[spice fulcrum]

Dude, this is stupid. They put in solos mode precisely so people don't have to face off 1 vs 2/ 1 vs 3, and it turns out that now in solos you can team up with other people. What is this shit? It's literally trios with another name, man. Sdf, what the fuck are you doing, bro? Literally, all we're asking for is for normal solos to come back. Why are you doing this? What's the point?

The damn game mode is called SOLO FOR A REASON

[wooden gulch]

idealised memories, objectively, game was trash and completly broken in PT3

[lunar fable]

I mean if you actively give people an avenue to abuse they will abuse it.

Literally the only difference between solo and trio now is trio you can start with your duo or trio as opposed to finding them in the dungeon. It’s not truly solos, so they’re just splitting queues again, a problem they’ve been trying to eliminate but they now just reintroduced.

[tribal zodiac]

[gloomy latch]

To the Solo's who want to win: get your kit, get in quick, find them before they find eachother, and execute the teamers 1 by one. I just had a lobby of 8 kills doing it this way. THIS IS THE VISION

[wooden gulch]

why not try :
you can't team first floor,
you can duo second,
and you can trio third ?
so you can't team at all in GC like old OG solo and can only duo in ice abyss, what do we think?

[marsh pollen]

if people queue solo they should expect to be solo the whole time

[prisma lava]

Id love to see the devs code that proper

[gloomy latch]

They will be when the bear is done with their team. >:)

[wooden gulch]

why ? interaction are the key of the game. Before semi wipe we had proper and balanced queue but the game still felt a bit blank imo (tho I would love to see gearcap to LR again...)

[hard sierra]

Was today not supposed to be full wipe?

[prisma lava]

I full wipe every day

[gloomy latch]

a fair argument. can you explain why that can't just be it's own queue, rather than labeling it as something like "solo's"?

[wooden gulch]

(fair point @gloomy latch ...)

[wooden lake]

No. Go to character change and go to the 3rd page and you will see season timer.

[hard sierra]

Haven't logged in since semi wipe. Before semi wipes announcement full wipe was July 16th iirc. As they stated "2 week semi wipe before full wipe" What does the timer say now?

[tribal zodiac]

[silver smelt]

Flip flop
Flip flop

[spice fulcrum]

Dude, this is stupid. They put in solos mode precisely so people don't have to face off 1 vs 2/ 1 vs 3, and it turns out that now in solos you can team up with other people. What is this shit? It's literally trios with another name, man. @glad thunder , what the fuck are you doing, bro? Literally, all we're asking for is for normal solos to come back. Why are you doing this? What's the point?

The damn game mode is called SOLO FOR A REASON

[bitter heart]

ong brother

[prisma lava]

Personally, i like the party up in dungs

[gloomy latch]

i hope one day we get just adventure mode pve queues, 1 queue with potential party-making in it for good interactions, and 2 queues for HR. 1 for open parties, anywhere from solo-trio, and 1 for solo's only. Hell, i'd even accept a nerf to loot for the solo, to help urge solo's to "make friends" lol...

[drowsy vortex]

It'd be so easy for IM to dig out of this hole, but SDF just doesn't seem to want the game to succeed anymore. These patches are becoming so comically bad. Improve performance? new content? fix long-standing issues? ballance? NAH flip flop changes forever and ofc bring back +ALL because we hate feedback

[wooden gulch]

the shit need to be improve, but tbh there is an idea here. Pre teamer are eating good tho

[spice fulcrum]

Dude, this is stupid. They put in solos mode precisely so people don't have to face off 1 vs 2/ 1 vs 3, and it turns out that now in solos you can team up with other people. What is this shit? It's literally trios with another name, man. @glad thunder , what the fuck are you doing, bro? Literally, all we're asking for is for normal solos to come back. Why are you doing this? What's the point?

The damn game mode is called SOLO FOR A REASON

[tribal zodiac]

Overall I feel like ppl dont even read all patch notes tho..
".......... and for this first implementation we will be leaving the in-game party system enabled to encourage various social play. We thank you for your patience and understanding as we rebuild the dungeons."

He legit said its temporary test.

(meme lords will say now: oh yes temorarry, later he remove solos again. I know)

[spice fulcrum]

Dude, this is stupid. They put in solos mode precisely so people don't have to face off 1 vs 2/ 1 vs 3, and it turns out that now in solos you can team up with other people. What is this shit? It's literally trios with another name, man. @glad thunder , what the fuck are you doing, bro? Literally, all we're asking for is for normal solos to come back. Why are you doing this? What's the point?

The damn game mode is called SOLO FOR A REASON

[gloomy latch]

i will die on the hill of your final sentence. Fix it please, call it what it is or fix it.

[vocal bramble]

i think +all is bugged for magic healing, it isnt showing up when i put on the gear in game

[idle whale]

so is solos back or am i trippin ?

[ocean yacht]

is game dead still or did they fix it

[vocal bramble]

yes solo is back, game is back

[ocean yacht]

back to like 2 patches ago? like normal DaD?

[gloomy latch]

despite all my argument, i actually do too. i think it adds depth to the game. i just think they are implementing it in the wrong place, with the wrong idea. There's no reason we can't have something like "open parties" and "solo only" queues as opposed to "solos (with partying)" and "trios (welp, you're not picking up teammates in game over here, you're starting as 3 already)"

[jagged ravine]

Im personally curious about what people's opinions are of the devs and of the state of the game what would you all say is the community stance on both

[idle whale]

Lol they didnt remove the teamming mechanic XD

[gloomy latch]

... Do i hear a stampede?

[gloomy latch]

lol no no, this is the vision. We aren't going back

[mystic marsh]

Game is progressively getting worse somehow

[gloomy latch]

community gets worse cause game keeps taking all the hope away. Game is dying, has been for awhile. sdf's vision was more important, enough said.

Maybe Kazaren will save us

[jagged ravine]

I dont under stand what this means sorry could you elaborate

[gloomy latch]

it was a bad joke because nothing was coming XD. There's an avalanche above of people hating on SDF for the past 3 hours, myself included. Not alot of positivity in here atm. Gear is in a good state i think, but the game is poorly delivered in this unclear description of what you're getting into. Solo's is not actually solo's, and there's more queues than are necessary to maintain good lobbies with activity. Playerbase is dwindling because of the back and forth nature of the lead developer's decisions. Is this enough info or do you want a bit more? i could elaborate for days...

[tribal zodiac]

I think is good in some way too(at normals, not hr), but I wish there is more proximity talking all around game.
At EU it feels like everyone is deaf or full pvp commitment sweat

[pale lintel]

solos back???????

[pale arrow]

Yes, but people can still manually team up in there and that's why everyone is mad.

[atomic crypt]

easy fix, reset back to playtest 2 and start again

[gloomy latch]

proximity chat does need to be extended imo.. it's too hard to hear someone across a room, compared to other games imo. there's definately room to allow more player friendly encounters. Just put it somewhere the players can expect to find it, not as a surprise somewhere it doesn't belong lol. To clarify, a friendly experience between two players teaming, is a detrimental experience to the person being teamed on unsuspectingly.

[pale lintel]

dude im lowkey just glad i can maybe at least 1v1 someone

[trail flicker]

Where is a list of what items can have which mods???? is it not in the game anywhere?

[jagged ravine]

Thank you for elaborating that is a very nice and fleshed out take that is enough info for now but if you want to elaborate feel free im always looking for more info to have a better understanding of the community's thoughts

[pale arrow]

It is in the game, go to marketplace. Select an item, drop down secondary attributes. There's your list.

Or go to the goldsmith.

[gloomy latch]

yeah i mean if you have any questions, i have an ungodly amount of time spent both on this discord and in-game. I could probably give you the history of the game in a nutshell. Right now though, it's filled with alot of hate because we don't understand the dev's decisions anymore. He has a vision of how he wants to make the game, but he also has a company to run and mouths to feed. My theory is he wants to make his game, he just needs enough of our money to get him there, we are just declining faster than was expected i think.

To further clarify, most people don't like his "vision" of the game.

[pale arrow]

It'll probably take them a week to make it so that the handshake party up is limited by mode. Suspect it's like a global thing and they "didn't consider that it needed to be per mode" or something like that.

[whole trail]

Bitter no one will group with you?

[brave linden]

how we gonna bring solos back and make it to where you can team🤣 thats not even solos

[pale arrow]

It's a pretty clear oversight and it's likely to be fixed, just yet another entry in the saga of not testing things properly.

[whole trail]

You queue as a solo which prevents premade teams of three

[steel delta]

WHY IS THERE STILL TEAMING IN SOLOS WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT

[gloomy latch]

Not an oversight. I quote from SDF's recent patch notes:

"With this in mind, we are re-introducing a solo queue for the current dungeons. Our goal is to give the solo queue dungeons a more unique identity going forward and for this first implementation we will be leaving the in-game party system enabled to encourage various social play."

He would like to see us lab rats engage in "various social play"

[whole trail]

Because the queue is solo not the game mode

[brave linden]

fr

[gloomy latch]

gotta rope in the majority of his playerbase back somehow

[jagged ravine]

Alright thank you for being willing to answer questions and that seems to be the view of alot of the people I have been talking to about this they seems to be very unhappy with how the game is moving and overall just unhappy, I may dm you later if thats OK to ask more questions when i think of them

[pale arrow]

You know I read that and misinterpreted its meaning. I thought he was rambling to say they weren't throwing out the party mechanic, I just didn't connect that it was related to solos.

[whole trail]

LMAO your original comment was putting people down

[gloomy latch]

Sure. At it's core, the game is pretty good. But it unfortunately is now nothing compared to what it was, and the competition is coming, so i don't think alot of people believe in it's development anymore

[trail flicker]

thats a pain the the sofijsodfj. How silly of them

[spice fulcrum]

Dude, this is stupid. They put in solos mode precisely so people don't have to face off 1 vs 2/ 1 vs 3, and it turns out that now in solos you can team up with other people. What is this shit? It's literally trios with another name, man. @glad thunder , what the fuck are you doing, bro? Literally, all we're asking for is for normal solos to come back. Why are you doing this? What's the point?

The damn game mode is called SOLO FOR A REASON

[gloomy latch]

we all kinda felt a bit confused when we had to piece it together after the first incident dying to another team in solos... then seeing that the text that deterred people from teaming in those queues was removed altogether. That solidified it real good that SDF has lost all respect for his solo community.

[pale arrow]

You know what, disregard both neutral things I said. That was a dog water decision and I think I might be underestimating the potential depth of ignorance. I won't continue on this train, I'm just pissed off that they had the ability to fix this, knew what we wanted, and clearly decided to undermine it in a way that's easily exploitable.

[whole trail]

Just team up with someone or go play another game

[acoustic osprey]

Solo is back_

?

[pale arrow]

I think we should rebrand it to say Solos* are back. Make sure and keep an asterisk on that.

[brave linden]

bruh its not really solos fr

[gloomy latch]

Believe me, i'm trying to be neutral, but i can't get over the direct negligence of what his players are asking for vs what he keeps giving us.

Still, i will say this is i think one of the best places i've seen gear at in awhile. I would love to discuss in depth with anyone who has some numbers arguments against what i'm saying that we could explore

[jagged ravine]

Thay seems to be a through line as well that people feel the bones of the project are pretty solid its what has been added on people are getting dissatisfied with and people do seem very disillusioned overall

[gloomy latch]

mhmm.. but as it stands right now im not sure i could recommend anyone to buy it. Too hard to predict where it's gonna end up in a few more months.

[split rune]

BRO this sdf guy is so fuking cooked its unbelivable ... this patches are legit like he is on his period

[gloomy latch]

He's just trying to run a sly one by all the solo players that quit his game. The population isn't lying though, the playerbase is going right back now that we see through the bull

[frail bison]

imo people wont come back for a long time after this. maybe thats their plan but seems like a poor approach from a business standpoint

[pale arrow]

I was okay with where we were right when attributes came back, but a little improvement seems good. I need to dig in a bit before I'd be properly prepared to discuss it with you. I got a little frustrated realizing that they brought back new modifiers as I was just getting BIS under the last attribute collection and now that BIS is bust you know? So I need to liquidate a SK, re-gear, and review endpoint stats. Just don't want to burn out rushing it while I'm still frustrated about the shift.

[frail bison]

im sure ill get banned or warned again for a comment like this but it genuinely seems like seat of the pants planning which is not what you want to do with a product.. like how a teenager might handle a project

[gloomy latch]

The sad truth is we will, as long as there's not something better out there. He might be trying to count on that, but it's not going to earn him money if he's doing it by "faking" his playerbase out with the "reintroduction of solos"

[torn sierra]

anyone else have their gold disappear with the latest update?

[jagged ravine]

That's super fair im honestly probably in a similar boat i cant recommend the game to anyone in its current state, anyway thank you for your time i might contact you later to ask you more questions thank you for the info

[upbeat cave]

solos aint even solos. Its "Find a teamate so you can find another solo with a team" SDF is on crack

[pale arrow]

Supposing anyone moderating was doing that at this time, you might get in trouble. But from what I've seen, occassionally people monitor the chat for a short burst of time, warn a few people and then dissapear once those people chill out and then it might be hours or days before someone shows up to take action again. Not something I'd stress over as long as you're not being super abusive or spamming truly abhorent things.

But historically this chat is equally wild all the time, the only thing varying is whether or not it's getting addressed. It's like 24/7 like this or worse.

[whole trail]

Plenty of solo 1v1 games out there, just wasting your time here

[mental willow]

They mostly ban stuff that is insulting someone, as long as you are not going wild in your messages you will be fine lol

[stuck lion]

Ad mortem seems cool

[hard sierra]

Would someone mind telling me the timer til wipe?

[fathom wagon]

Are nameplates still off for norms

[whole trail]

Wipe is near the end of August

[mental willow]

Last I heard was mid August or late August

[pale arrow]

We haven't been blessed with the exact date and time yet, we're not worthy.

[trail flicker]

Is double warlock with double COP the same as before? You can have both curses if one is curse mastery'd? And does curse mastery not add damage but just pointlessly deal the same damage over a longer period?

[drowsy vortex]

Games been a silent dm after the wyvern hunting days. Telling players they aren't allowed to interact in HR if they are being "friendly" will only make the whole game less friendly. It was a dumb choice which has had awful consequence on the game's community

[candid gate]

sdf is incompetent replace him

[fathom wagon]

If we cant have names atleast make the sashes more vivid colors AND IN SQUIRE 50 gold to run norms is ridiculous

[drowsy vortex]

for the love of the game stop adding +all it should not exist in any form

[frail bison]

eh ive insulted SDF about every day for a couple of weeks now but I appreciate the heads up

[mental willow]

Seems like they forgot again 🤧

[whole trail]

I think they should leaves names off and add teammate icons to the mini map like the player icon

[still cloud]

How do you suck so bad when it started so good? @glad thunder how could you not see this version of solos is a joke? Why would you think removing solos or modifiers would be a good idea? Im pretty sure a child would have better inclination of where this game should be heading over you.

[drowsy vortex]

The "we take feedback seriously" line just looks so bad when you see how the community hates +all, and YET HE KEEPS ADDING IT BACK

[whole trail]

It is only on necklace and rings and you can’t socket for it.

[drowsy vortex]

It should not exist in any form whatsoever

[whole trail]

Give it a week and it won’t

[pale arrow]

I see where you're coming from, but I really don't think they can afford to lose anyone over having an opinion that frankly speaking has a good amount of logical backing. I haven't insulted him myself ever, but I got threatened with action yesterday(?) for getting bent on another player and like I said I think it was just because someone happened to see it at that time.

[silent coyote]

bro's seeing out his vision for the game by undoing all of his awful changes and putting it back the way it was before

[fathom wagon]

And make sashes brighter in such a dark game why make the sashes dark colors and why make it 50 gold when alot of players go into a norms with squire gear to get gear

[gloomy latch]

100%. I was really ready to call bullshit on some of the stuff i've been watching. Firebox does a video on it, i suggest checking it out. All attributes was toxic at one point, back when you could get +8 all. I actually think that +3 all isn't too bad, considering gear can roll up to +3 of an attribute in general. We had +3 all between pants/chest/neck last season, now it's +3 between rings/ammy. They've taken the ability to gem for that out, which brings back value to items that you find with good stats INNATELY. So, that leaves 2 points of value in looting again, the base, and the upgrade gems. Great! One downside, most things are worth less if they don't have those good stats now. That's something i can't see winning either way on, because there's always going to be meta builds. Personally, i think gemming everything the way we wanted was fine the way it was, but the modifiers needed adjusting for balance.

Another big win with the new modifiers, movespeed is no longer something you can roll on ANYTHING. We are back to agility stacking as the best option (which can work, but will cost you in comparison to other builds, so i think this is okay!).
Finally, true damages have been moved to only on the base of the necks (phoenix chokers and Frost amulets only) and the weapons/offhands themselves. This makes the stacking 7+ true on light hitters alot less potent to killing off plate wearers or heavy magic resistant builds.

[minor gulch]

Bro is flip-flopping like you can’t believe this game is dead

[whole trail]

Yeah. Sash should definitely just be a part of your squire loadout for sure

[drowsy vortex]

IM (probably just sdf) is allergic to good ideas, and creative thinking tho

[pulsar quiver]

wait so you can still teamup in solos ?

[rare oracle]

Agree with your summary of the gear changes. Step back/sideways in the right way. Teaming in solos is cancer though and needs to be removed.

[mental willow]

Naw, they have a whole suggestion page on their website, if they cared they would start reading it and adding small stuff once a month or etc

[pulsar quiver]

i thought they removed that shit fighting 3 randos and they all teamup like wtf can you do

[gloomy latch]

agreed. Call it what it is or fix it. But don't expect your solo players to come back to your "vision" being forced on them.

[pale arrow]

All good points, Dave. I do think the market turn from the meta separation of +1, True Phys, and Action Speed natural rolls will considerably degrade income for non-HR players in a way that at least makes sense, but I do think they need to come up with a better mechanic for the religion skins if they're going to continue to do things that cause an economic downturn on entire groups of the player base. The advantage to not having +1 all for instance was that any item/rarity combination guaranteed a decent minimum price on all accessories, but now I think we're going to see a massive bottom end divergence there. Where anything without +all is close to what you'd get for selling it to a vendor with rare exceptions, and anything with +1 AA will be probably separated by a minimum of 200xrarity grade.

[karmic granite]

Are gamer tags back for teammates? Bc it’s hard trying to know if a Druid is your teammate when’ there’s 10 on bridge

[tribal zodiac]

This is so true. Since that day, the game totally changed. I swear I had so good time with friendly interactions in dungeons before.

I totally understand if teaming for PvP(Where 2+ ppl Que at same time) and group every next lobby together agains each other was bad.
But natural Friendly behaviour was peak.

This actually made me go perma invis rogue and mess up ppl/commenting their pvp from invis etc

[rare oracle]

It’s literally the trios Que with extra steps. If not worse.

[pulsar quiver]

im just really failing to see the (vision)

[pale arrow]

It's worse, you're nearly guaranteed an advantage if you team into a trio in the solo queue. Not everyone is going to take the time to do it or even want to so it's an even riper place to get your team together and harvest the rewards. Unless they divine a way to prevent pre-mades from triple solo queueing into the same game (which is incredibly hard to do with our current pop I'm sure) there will be bad actors because it's very lucrative.

[gloomy latch]

One thing i'm grateful of in this changing economy is the value of treasure going up. Even though i can clearly see a significant increase in the price of items using the ideal modifiers, i'm happily gaining like 2k gold from treasure in a single run. Suddenly, i don't feel like i have to budget to 300g/piece of gear when i'm low on money, so that's kind of nice. Still, you have a valid point, and i suspect that the price difference will only get worse with enough time. There's not enough gold sink in the game to keep the market from over-inflating in it's current state.

For anyone confused on wtf i'm talking about in the above paragraph, i'm explaining how a troll pelt goes from 2k to upwards of 10k each over the course of a wipe. it happens because we don't lose gold enough, we only trade it between us. On the contrary, items are lost to the dungeon, or consumables are permanently used up, so the gold stays and becomes less valuable over extended time of using these items/consumables. We gain gold selling to vendors faster than we ever use it on things like repairing gear, or buying consumables, or buying gear itself before losing it. This is also why SDF released the "religion" system i think.

[mental willow]

Find 2 randoms, team up, fight 3 v 3 as 2 sets of randoms or dodge entirely if you don't feel like winning 1 v 3, so far seem to be the options

[ember arrow]

Ok solos is far more bearable

[pulsar quiver]

id rather knaw my own hands to stups than play with randos in this game its 89% griefers and rage quitters

[long ginkgo]

hot take: i love being rolled by all bis uniq kit players in normals. just now i got killed by a full plate 310 ms plate 41 action speed ms and 150 hp fighter IN NORMALS

[nimble linden]

is anyone else getting that weird animation bug on halberd when u clearly hit an enemy and suddenly your halberd does the "hit wall" animation and sound? reported that bug 3 patches ago still in game

[mental tulip]

why is teaming aloud in solo.... L patch

[jolly olive]

"Solo returns... WITH A TWIST" says the steam patch notes.... ya... as in q solo, team up and make someone fight a trio again.... this is absurd.

[pale arrow]

Nail on the head my man, gold sink is the issue, they either go too small or way too big. There's no real in-between. But they could add convenience services that cost extra like (automatic purchase orders, etc) that they could tax at varying rates to start pulling currency out. They need to stop issuing gold sinks in places that create road blocks and create paths where players would choose the gold sync. The best possible example of this would be to re-do the goblin and run it basically like tarkov's insurance. That'd make sense, be totally optional, and everyone with gear fear would gladly pay it for a chance at getting their precious items back.

[gloomy latch]

OR! Become a bear, and go chase spawn locations to find the straggling squeakers running for their teammates across the dungeon. MAUL THEIR LITTLE BODIES

[karmic granite]

Atp I just want the game to die

[pulsar quiver]

let a better copy show up first

[pale arrow]

I get that, it's the only thing that's going to release me from this vicious cycle and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[wary wing]

It's sdf's fault im downloading warzone right now. Look what you did, this is terrible.

[pulsar quiver]

man dont do that to yourself

[wary wing]

Save me pls

[jolly olive]

I think I'll just invest my time back into Magic The Gathering at my local store.

[pale arrow]

If they do it though, they need to record themselves crying and playing warzone in a full dark and darker knight cosplay.

[nimble linden]

is anyone else getting that weird animation bug on halberd when u clearly hit an enemy and suddenly your halberd does the "hit wall" animation and sound? reported that bug 3 patches ago still in game

[mental willow]

Yup, that is very true, I wouldn't say I see many griefers, I only saw like 2 ever and one of them was in arena afk and only typing not playing and other one was trying to kill me with a book on game start when playing random trios. Rage quitters are annoying, so many times where I was going to res a guy and he just leaves 🥲

[pulsar quiver]

man life is worth living activision admited they think 70% of their player base is cheating

[low mica]

Best I can do is +5 Axe Specialization

[gloomy latch]

"insurance" could cost something preemptive, something more than it currently does, to secure more valuable pieces.

"repairing" gear could be a thing to maintain more expensive pieces might cost more (more modifiers, higher repair costs maybe).

There could be entry fee increases to high roller. At this rate, 100g is a joke compared to what we come out with, you don't even have to try.

Finally, and the biggest thing i've been chewing on forever -- why not just make gold bags purchasable from "the treasurer" after completing certain quests? You could make the bags worth a flat amount, taking the inflation of such items out of the economy, and also regulating a gold sink that players would ALWAYS pay into. Either buy it cheaper from players on the market, or pay the going rate into the gold sink. We could also allow the purchase of gold keys and skull keys for gold, regulating their toxic market too. All of this would make players have to differentiate the economy around the gear and consumables at that point, which frankly makes sense since that's what we are more regularly finding anyways, right?

[spark portal]

At least they have matchmaking.

[pulsar quiver]

like i have buddys to play with but if they are not there id rather just solo and the devs dont get that

[twin echo]

i dont understand man if the devs wanted to remove gear stat checking, why not just remove rarities on meds man or even utils like throwing knives, francisca and mollys its so dumb

[cursive canopy]

ive been playing 'solos' for the past 2 hours...I've fought 3 solo fights. 90% its 3 man teams

[pale arrow]

Hold on there, let's question the premise. Is it worth needing to manage gold? Why is gold storage even an issue? Is having physical gold represented in this game more valuable than the damage it causes?

[karmic granite]

No gamertags for teammates is stupid

[twin echo]

yea agreed why dafuq was this decision even made

[fervent wigeon]

How does a gaming company drop the bag so hard. Solo returns! Except it isn't solos, it's trios, but no premades allowed. Which for the record everyone hated when it was presented as "trios"

[rare oracle]

Endless incompetence

[karmic granite]

5 druids on bridge hmmmmm which one is my teammate????

[pale arrow]

Personally I think even having to keep and manage bags for gold is gimmicky at best, yet it's the sole driver for my activities and planning for the first 2 weeks of every season. And I hate that. I'd rather be focusing on something enjoyable to use in the actual game than padding bags so I can trade them off for keys and deal with our whacked-ass trading process that also is affected by the inflation caused by the damned bags it seeks to avoid.

[vernal arch]

this is absoultely dumb. just because the solo queue players cried, i shouldnt have to be forced to load in solo and hope to find teammates and every time i do load in, i run around trying to find teammates and i run into trio's every single time. this is pertarded(dumb censorship)

[fervent wigeon]

Incorrect perspective. Solos should have came back.. BUT trios should be its own thing

[keen mauve]

So they really did just make teaming legal?

[vernal arch]

so the solution to SOLO DUNGEONS was force everyone to load in solo unless they have friends who play the game which i do not

[cursive canopy]

its antifun....why are there antifun mechanics?

[sharp spindle]

Don’t @m me this is just to put out more stuff in hopes we can get some good changes in the next year. Maybe. Sdf terry all u devs please bring the game back to a patch 68 state. The current state is horrible and player base shows. Anyway gg dark this my last message here until we get some real change.

[vernal arch]

you're absolutely right. I don't understand why sdf CAN'T GET IT RIGHT. he knows what WE want

[mental willow]

I like the repair idea for the gold sink, they could also try making minimum price for items at the market

[gloomy latch]

At the current rate, it's an appropriate gold sink to me, nothing more. We make too much gold for what we do in game, and the gear alone isn't expensive enough to account for the gold we pull in. We could maybe get less but we need something to look forward to upgrading i think. Tarkov did it with cases, this game does it with gold storage. as long as we account for a loss of gold sink with something new added, i don't think it really matters. Players just need to feel rewarded for their increase in wealth as they become better at getting out of the dungeons.

[cunning jolt]

all ats are back? 🤦‍♂️

[jolly olive]

Probably not far off from the truth... It seems sdf thinks he can implement tarkovs systems into this game and it would actually work....

[drowsy vortex]

Yeah, far too few people acknowledge that change as the death blow. Game has been dying ever since.

Some people also seem to think that social skills aren't something which can be expressed in multiplayer games.

Back then, we had so many players because players liked to interact with one another, all of which is gone now. We have been bleeding players ever since.

[vernal arch]

and everytime i join a VC in here looking to hop in a party i get the "bruh are u min/max vampie demon hunter barbian kill squad TTK .5 build?" its insufferable

[prime saffron]

“Wasn’t teaming in solos like, super against the rules?”
Yes, yes it was

[pale arrow]

I'd be for them reducing MISC item values by 75% and removing the gold bags. They made a ton of money off that last DLC because every sweat here knows that you're going to spend about 20-40 hours competitively farming GC to get what you did from that if you're doing it on season onset. At this point, I even know what players I can expect to fight there because it's the same damned thing over and over.

[tribal zodiac]

Actually thats why i liked go sometimes to PvE and help new players with boss quests etc

[drowsy vortex]

Even when I play pve tho, I hardly get interaction, people just silently stare at you

[tribal zodiac]

y or running blindly like on wallmart sale

[mental willow]

Very true, pve mode is a ghost of that, but you still rarely get that experience there

[jolly olive]

The first thing they should have dumped was pve mode, and just made a training mode instead

[tribal zodiac]

Problem is that people have to turn on VOiP, proxy etc.. this should be permanently open, just option for mic mute button.

[drowsy vortex]

If the dungeon had the interaction and emergent gameplay it used to, it would defintely be far more played than it is now. Even with these incredibly stupid ballance changes and flip flops. IM needs to acknowledge that they've made a mistake in that regard

They've only made this community more toxic with those changes

[mental willow]

What kind of special beef do you have with pve mode?🤣

[jolly olive]

They acknowledge the mistake sin every patch... but then they do it again

[nimble linden]

is anyone else getting that weird animation bug on halberd when u clearly hit an enemy and suddenly your halberd does the "hit wall" animation and sound? reported that bug 3 patches ago still in game

[pale arrow]

Hot take, even though I'm a sweat I still like PvE mode because I'm also a parent and sometimes I can't play Dark and Darker competitively and not expect to dump kits from having to get up and deal with IRL stuff. Thanks to PvE mode I can play during times when I might get interrupted and enjoy the envrionment and gameplay. I don't think PvE mode should be able to replace earnings from modes with risk, but I do like that it exists and allows for casual play without heavy penalties.

[gloomy latch]

This could just make the meta to avoid treasure entirely, creating a rift where it's place would be, or in other words negating it's purpose in the game entirely, right?

So with that in mind, we abolish gold bags and make it built in perhaps as a suggestion. What is our progression pathing/investment that you can think of? is it just to afford consumables and insurance maybe between kits? Would that be enough of a gold sink? Curious to your thoughts on this

[mental willow]

Are you sure it is a bug and not just part of your halberd you can't see hitting the wall? Cause a few times I felt like it my friend pointed out that back of it was indeed in the wall

[cursive canopy]

why did they re-add solo queues only to split the player base and disadvantage solo players...it makes no sense!

[nimble linden]

nah happened in ruins open space tried it with friends to recreate only happens like 1/20 hits or smth

[gloomy latch]

we've been asking alot of this today lol

[mental willow]

Fair, I mostly had it on crypts, hope it gets fixed then 🫡

[cursive canopy]

ive been playing for the last several hours...its all teams

[gloomy latch]

i've gone full a-hole on the teamers. i'm raiding lobbies with my bear druid chasing them down before they find eachother to team up, then running away to make them upsetti spaghetti. We hate druids, but i'll get that low vs teamers.

[drifting raptor]

oh yeah

[nimble linden]

mode options are now : trios ... trios but u need to find the team ingame.. fast.. or get jumped by 3 alone...

[spice marsh]

solo queue is so bad, remove it please

[drifting raptor]

all non +1 all jewelry is now dirt cheap ❤️💕

[bright latch]

@sdf great job man, I am so proud of you for messing up your most popular game mode. Take it out add it back in to be a complete dog water. You are such a man of vision

[gloomy latch]

i'll just remove you from it.

[sinful gull]

hell nah there is still max hp, magic heal, action speed and other good rolls

[pale arrow]

Regarding misc items, the baseline I think is that as long as MISC items have a slightly higher value than equipment for sale the interest will remain, so 75% reduction is probably too heavy handed, but the general idea would be to make it so that misc per slot is only slightly better than equipment per slot. Regarding progression, I think they should lean into their vendors and give them crafting options (with inherent costs) to let you craft a weapon exactly as you want it as opposed to having a random roll for the normal base gear. For example, let's say at 50 you can choose to craft a blue weapon at the weapon smith, at 100 you can craft epics, and at 150 you can create legendaries. The grade you pick and each stat you pick have an upfront cost, let's say materials for the base craft + gem per type of enchantment as the goldsmith works today, and a fee for each extra on your order, say 100 gold per controlled outcome.

[cunning jolt]

L take please dont say stuff like this

[bright latch]

Yea

[drifting raptor]

i’m getting leg dex rings that were 5k yesterday for 500 lol

[earnest current]

wait ! there is no solo mode that mode he play maybe baited mode

[sinful gull]

just sold a purple phoenix with +4hp and +2mh for 1.4k quick sell tho ..

[cursive canopy]

last group i fought was full unique 3 man in normal solo queue...

[smoky jetty]

I accepted to party up in solos highroller with 2 guys. One of them killed the third party member. I took his items in hope that they return. I got no goblin notification so I wonder what happened with their items? Anybody got an idea?

[bright latch]

No goblin merchant brother.

[drifting raptor]

that’s cause it’s got a new roll

[smoky jetty]

so he lost his items to a random teamkiller? wow sdfs vision I guess

[pale arrow]

Oh and @gloomy latch this will be my most unfavorable suggestion potentially, but I really feel like the idea that most players of the game have never held an artifact creates an issue in that they have no idea what they're missing. So I also propose that for completing all quests in a given season you should get to choose one artifact as a final reward.

[drifting raptor]

did he leave your party? goblin merchant just worked for me in hr teammate return

[smoky jetty]

you wanna tell me you can team up with people fake to be friendly and team kill them and keep their stuff? wtf

[little marten]

I doubt they will keep teaming in Solos. They may be testing some more BS before the next season. AS they've stated they were going to make a bunch of changes and test things prior to the next season. Whole purpose of this mini wipe. Some things are ass, some are decent. Gear feels a lot better imo.

[drifting raptor]

if they leave your party, yes. if they stay in your party after dying they get it back if you take it out

[smoky jetty]

he left the party because he was mad I guess

[drifting raptor]

yeah his fault, he would’ve gotten it back lol rip

[sinful gull]

they would get it back ..i saved a dudes kit earlier

[smoky jetty]

I hope he recieved the items back

[glossy galleon]

So, how does a person play with a group using matchmaking right now? I don't have a button to allow searching to fill empty slots, and I keep finding sessions where I'm alone.

[bright latch]

It's mindblowing, what a stupendous patch. Remember bro It's hard to balance solos bro

[cursive canopy]

its insane how anyone thought this patch was a good idea...wtf are they doing

[smoky jetty]

can we actually get solos back? this is not healthy for the community, I ran many solos today and this isnt working out. People exploit and betray you over a boss drop

[pale arrow]

One might ask wtf we're doing being surprised at this point.

[cursive canopy]

i feel like this game is being developed by an infinite number of monkies on an infinite number of typewriters

[drifting raptor]

so don’t team

[smoky jetty]

bring solos back!

[sinful gull]

yeah its also hard to tie his shoeslaces or swallow food without choking for sdf i bet ...

[gloomy latch]

Yess, this is the fire i've been wanting to cook with. Full fledged gold dump through crafting would be perfect. In fact, i think it could combo very well with how the game currently is. Made random gear drop in game maybe less often, but have components for crafting gear appear more in chests. For example, special threads for cloth pieces, leather pieces from beasts you slay, ores from mines you gather from could all be used in combination with gems to essentially create bases and "enchant" them. The mechanics are all there except for the intial building of the "base". If they introduced that, they could honestly just limit the market to currency trading and crafting your own gear or buying gear from your traders would be your only options.

Now hear me out, i've expanded on your idea my way i think, but with the above implemented, we could still keep the high value of sellables since we would be sinking our gold right into the gear we were making through vendors, not players. And, since we couldn't sell the gear to other players, we'd be leaving no floating gold afterwards. You'd still be inclined to seek treasure and materials to trade or use, and if you found that "right" piece of gear in a run, it would be valuable still as an upgrade, but not as a market piece.

This would also simplify the looting for players who aren't market watchers who know what everythings worth. if it's treasure, it's worth more gold, but if it's a good piece of gear, it might be more expensive to craft so it's worth grabbing

[prime saffron]

@glad thunder wheres real solo queue

[sinful crater]

why is teaming allowed in solos

[smoky jetty]

If I dont team with others I get smoked in a 1v3, I have no choice

[prime saffron]

Just stop playing the game until they fix it

[bright latch]

Hard to for you to eat food when you are this dumb lmao. Do I really need to put an s at the end, or can we have a little bit of reading comprehension

[sinful gull]

GC is fine sometimes but if you wanna visit any poi better get some mates or get diplomacy diffed

[abstract orbit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6o93Gwiarc

[smoky jetty]

I wonder if they can get banned if they teamkill once or only if they do it alot

[lavish tendon]

neither team killing just gives a red name and they cant play for a short amount of time

[analog summit]

bro they added +all attributes to rings again!!! +all is bad to have on items in this game for its health lol

[pale arrow]

I like this Dave and it is an expansion from my idea because I was leaning a bit more into the status quo, but honestly what you've got here would be an improvement over my first pass.

[supple sequoia]

Bro solo Queue is just 1v2v2v2 how are ya even calling this solo's

[gloomy latch]

they removed it from pants/chest though, so it's not really a big difference since last season.

[little marten]

+All and MS were only bad, when you could get it on too many pieces

[real rover]

Sdf is such a bum lmao killed a game that had potential to be the best extraction game. I'd be so embarrassed if I were him but I don't think he has much self awareness

[smoky jetty]

for how long can they not play?

[mighty current]

ITS MORE TRIOS IN SOLOS THAN IN TRIOS ITSELF PLS HELP

[supple sequoia]

Gotta Be in BiS to survive solo's when you're a real solo going against 3 different duos back to back. And its no mistakes in fight or else you're cooked.

[cursive canopy]

duos? lucky you, its usually trios

[supple sequoia]

bro its 3 different teams of Duos after solos since they know its easy kill

[pale arrow]

I think them getting penalized require they stay present long enough to get reported in-game and you can only de-fame them once every 5 extractions, and frankly speaking I don't think defame has a related penalty. In fact, I've had people ask me to red them instead of blue just because they "like the color".

[storm orchid]

BRO WHY THE FUCK CAN YOU TEAM UP IN SOLOS UP TO A TRIO ??!?!?!?!? @glad thunder

[real rover]

Isn't it easier than ever for 3 friends to just queue a map at the same time as solo and end up in the same one? Player count is like 13 these days

[mental willow]

They are putting your social skills to the test

Have to get that Diplo right or you have to 1 v 3 bro

[real rover]

Which is funny because most ppl will just feign friendliness and kill you lol I give it 3 days before sdf reverts this regardedness

[storm orchid]

nahhh bro thats just dumb

[uncut stump]

and just like that dark and darker is back.

[gloomy latch]

Agree. MS is completely removed as an option on all gear pieces for magical modifiers. You either commit to low armor lightfoots, or your don't now. Agility stacking is your only option, and it takes away from some of the necessary other modifiers you may need more of for survivability and damage.

+all is now possible on 2 rings and 1 amulet instead of chest/legs/amulet. The total amount possible is unchanged, so i see this is a negligible difference.

Overall, i think the main problem with gear is that we've given back a huge amount of PDR to low geared fighters, but the movespeed reduction is still very minimal. Seems a bit overtuned that a white geared fighter is at 47% pdr while running around at 290 MS with his hands out, before sprinting. I personally think he should at least be around 280, any takers on this? Also, did we really need to buff riposte with LS again?

[real rover]

In the trash can

[smoky jetty]

I heared teamkilling gets just 5mins

[gloomy latch]

we're down to under 4700 players now.... think it's gonna be below 4k before today is over

[mental willow]

Oh yeah, after SDF triple downed on the new vision and folded after a month or so with nothing done other than 200% hs damage I don't even doubt he will revert

[pale arrow]

I just run around and spam emotes while they try to chase me, suprisingly effective for stopping a 1v3 death. Highly suggest, it's like *** panther cologne. 50% of the time it works everytime.

[rich tendon]

i can't agree more XDD

[gloomy latch]

this change alone makes the bear form stronk again. I 1 tapped a fully geared barb last game. ty for that sdf, you animal

[fair yacht]

he busy promoting himself to CEO to be embarressed

[cold venture]

this and DUH. @zinc sparrow please help

[real rover]

Sdf is just straight up regarded. This game is hotdog water but the playtests/first week of EA makes me miss it. Shame

[drowsy vortex]

If IM could ever be trusted to implement mechanics well, i'd suggest a Chiv 1-esque chase mechanic, which requires LOS on a players back to give a movespeed boost. But if they ever added it, they'd make it awful

[gloomy latch]

he's 1 tapping people in here with me as a bear, can't be bothered to read frustrations, we're high fiving in solo lobbies cornering the scrubs. satire

[hasty marlin]

On god the most weird attempt to readd solos it literally satisfies NOTHING of why people wanted solos back LOL

[real rover]

Bring back random portals, remove static extracts, remove map, make us fight for extracts like the old days. That sht was fun, now pretty much every1 can get out. I miss contesting final portals :/

[fair yacht]

its cause he cant admit he was wrong so its like punishing everyone who called for solos to come back

[cold venture]

real @glad thunder

[young timber]

Just a realy dumb quesiton, but why is it even possible to team in solos?

[lavish tendon]

The team up guy left the company after the quiver guy told him about a better job

[young timber]

Like? Why the hell would i play trios in a trenchcoatß

[real rover]

Because sdf is really dumb lol

[marsh escarp]

Can we have an arena mode but for the mini/ main bosses? Like I’m a new player and would love the chance to just constantly practice 1v1 on them instead of going thru the dungeon and finding them

[young timber]

Even worse you clearly see ppl abusing the system, quing at the same time to group up in the raid

Which is INCREDIBLY cringe

[real rover]

Yep, I figured that would happen. I wish we could get refunds for severe mishandling of the game 🤣

[cursive canopy]

its all 3 mans!

[unreal stirrup]

they'll fix the emote in solos and you people will find something else to rant about during a semiwipe that is meant for rapid iterations on the core game concept 🤦

[civic anvil]

i'm not a doomer or anything but what iterations on the core concept? i've never seen anything but new maps, classes, and stat changes.

[young depot]

Why is the random team fill not back? I don't have anyone to play with and going into trios alone is such a waste of time. I've never been a solos player so adding solos back does nothing for me.

[civic anvil]

the core concept is you open chests and corpses for loot. that's it. hasnt changed.

[civic anvil]

I feel that.. even though the team fill was insanely underwhelming.

[young depot]

Idk why people complain about the random team fill. Everyone i got queued with was focusing pvp just like me.

[civic anvil]

yeah.. what if I dont want to focus pvp?

[drowsy vortex]

random team fill was a much faster way to get in-game with 3 people. Going to english gathering hall is an awful experience, Half the time the people aren't from your region

[civic anvil]

i was invited to a group yesterday and we did a few matches.. just roaming for pvp.. it was so fucking boring.

[young depot]

if you don't then at least i have another teammate with me to help pvp. instead of being alone in a trios lobby

[drowsy vortex]

ye, I would keep looking for groups in those cases, last time I played I was able to get a good one after a bit, but it took forever bc no random team fills

[civic anvil]

so yeah.. it only matters what you want to do. you prove my point.

[young depot]

that's not even what im arguing though so your point doesnt make sense

[kind thistle]

Literally just fought a team of 4, they stood beside eachother never fought and only all tried to hunt me down, I mean we got solos back, but did we really

[civic anvil]

what i'm saying is team finder should have a way of forming a group with expectations in mind.. not just randomly throwing people together who are doing dif shit.

[mental willow]

Yes, but you can also party in the dungeon up to 3 players even in solo, so prepare your social skills

[subtle heart]

FUCK I don’t have social skills

[mental willow]

Then prepare to 1 v 3 often

[severe coyote]

Sdf as president: for my first action I’ll be reverting all of the changes our head of development, me, made.

[subtle heart]

But I’m bad at the game

[cinder mica]

Ironmace Remove teaming from solos! This is completely unacceptable! I just had a game where i solo'ed 4 different people only to lose to 3 people teaming!!! FIX IT!

[young depot]

what expeditions are there to even have in dark and darker? I dont loot or want gold or any of that crap. I just want to pvp.

[mental willow]

Then I hope you find fun in something other than making coins and PvP 🫡

[dapper mortar]

if you dodge 2-3 attacks and say "bro i dodged 3 of your attacks, do you think you can beat me." they usually surrender and partner up

[civic anvil]

how about doing quests? bossing? goofing around the map?

[tight acorn]

Does anyone know what exactly was changed when it comes to random modifiers? I don't really notice a difference in that regard

[fervent wigeon]

all atts for 1

[mental willow]

True, but not with pop we got rn 💀

[civic anvil]

its pvp brain. these people have very shallow thinking and don't understand how anyone could have fun in a game if they arent attacking another player.

[prime saffron]

Lameee^^^^^ pvp game>>>>

[reef kettle]

graysun is cooking rn holy

[young depot]

Ive played the game everyday for more than 2 years. Ive done everything there is to do in the game. When you have played the game as much as me there is nothing left to do but get better at the pvp.

[tribal zodiac]

Then you must have understanding for ppl who played like you on begining and have different goals at this moment:)

[upper sun]

anyone know when the wipe is?

[prime saffron]

I cant believe that guy was talking smack about people that play pvp games for pvp LOL

[thick quartz]

Yeah idk if you're the average player if you haven't missed a day playing DaD since launch lol

[mental willow]

Why not play a PvP only game then tho? Not baiting or anything, just a genuine question, I find it hard to believe there are no BR games or PvP games alive rn

[civic anvil]

you are a very strange person. not only that but your brain is defective.

[young depot]

I play a lot of different video games. all for different reasons. What draws me to DaD pvp is that it is unique and there are many nuances to the timing of various aspects of the fighting. The game gives me a rush during every fight. Only thing that sucks is that the fights are so short and i spend so much time getting to them. Esp. now.

[civic anvil]

thats the kind of player this game draws.. its why this community is trash.

[thorn bay]

there is no one in trios wtf?

all trios in solos?

[drowsy vortex]

Yo, IM it makes 0 sense that will provides more MR than it does MDB. Forcing casters to stack true dmg is awful game design. This clearly needs to be changed

[civic anvil]

pvp brain.

[buoyant cipher]

How tf you bring back solos and then not bring autofill back it's not like you're going to find solos in the trio dungeon to party up with now.... what's the point of the new system if your going to have solos

[civic anvil]

you guys always think that because i'm saying i may want to focus on something other than pvp then i must be saying that i hate pvp. you can do a thing and if pvp happens it happens.

i dont have 1500 hours in this game because i hate pvp

[young depot]

There is nothing else to do in DaD than PVP. you must be new to the game or something.

[paper valley]

so solo mode is back but you can team in solos? I quit a year ago but ive been following the trainwreck

[mental willow]

Fair, I am really waiting for them to increase TTK for months now, but ever since that started bothering me it only got shorter and shorter which really sucks. I will give season 7 a shot, if it's another miss I am out 🫡

[civic anvil]

your question was dumb.. the loot is trash in adventure mode.

[civic anvil]

whatever dude.. i genuinely hope you find a group and some pvp.

i'm not gonna argue with people who think the game is just pvp.

[warm sun]

What else is there? Grind the same mobs over and over?

[civic anvil]

Yep I totally agree. I have so much more fun when I'm helping people out.

[tight magnet]

so gang I just got off work and need an answer. The update brought back solos but you can still shake hands in the queue?

[civic anvil]

why do you think its cool to shit on things that people may enjoy?

[tribal zodiac]

Thats why all games with Proximity forced plays are peak of comedy

[warm sun]

I'm sorry but who's shitting on anything? I think you're getting too defensive

[fervent wigeon]

Yeah not worth coming back

[tight magnet]

@fervent wigeonwhy not? did I miss something? If its just solos and people have to team after loading in im fine w that

[tribal zodiac]

THe most fun is, crawling in dungeon, looking for item and interact with other players during that session.. if its friendly or PvP.

I dont find fun in: rush pvp-die-market bis-go rush pvp again.
Thats fun? I dont think so 🙂 (Sorry if I missed some point story about coversation above)

[mental willow]

Bosses on 3 different maps, ~1k people to meet and play with, quests, but tbh, seeing your pov, you might as well just leave cause you are just grinding same people every lobby anyway, so by your logic you are bored AF regardless and there is no help to that

[wispy marsh]

Bruh there's this druid named crocodile so annoying lol

[warm sun]

90% of people I've met pretend they want to team and then kill you. Sucks

[civic anvil]

what if I enjoy killing mobs? what if I enjoy the dungeon crawling game? you asserted that outside of pvp there is nothing else. so I must interpret that you think what I'm doing is brainless or pointless.

[livid onyx]

No rizz

[tribal zodiac]

thats in real life too.. you are tourists and most probably you find friendly person in random town who want scam you. sadly you have to count with that

I wish to meet you in game tho

[warm sun]

But the mobs in this game have like 3 moves. Player on the other hand are human being that have strategy, variety of builds etc. it's much more fun to fight and much more rewarding since you can grab good kits if you're lucky. Also bosses are fun that's true but I can't imagine grinding them over and over forever

[paper valley]

copium

[civic anvil]

hell yeah. tho, in their defense..this game has an insanely shallow gameloop if you aren't really into just doing whatever.

[warm sun]

true ;((

[mental willow]

I see, idk if it's my luck or just me not being good enough anymore, but all pvp comes down to either running away and shooting at the person chasing you or running after someone shooting them in the back, both of which suck harder than 3 move skele 💀

[civic anvil]

you assume everyone is as good at the game as you. it's so arrogant and ignorant.

[warm sun]

try the bridge on ruins. its super fun

[prime saffron]

LMFAO

[fossil blaze]

is anybody else noticing that if you spectate "solos" its nothing but parties of at least two?

I love the fact that they made "solos" a thing again, but if it's "solos" then don't make it have a function for people to literally just team up with their buddies as if they went into trios

[warm sun]

i am bad at the game lmao. im not saying the game is easy, but grinding mobs in monotone. calling me names is not helping btw

[mental willow]

I did for a few seasons, but it gradually got worse, so for now I am just chilling waiting for new map and bosses

[indigo wagon]

im over it it was a good run yall ggs ❤️

[tribal zodiac]

We bring there drums full inv with my trios and play dodgeball yday. it was fun asf

[prime saffron]

Lolololol

[timber imp]

Yo stop bitchin b4 they change it back again 😭

[prime saffron]

Dudes crazy

[fossil blaze]

exactly. is sdf getting bribed by another company to kill dark and darker or something?

[mental willow]

Not even 3 edits this time, progress at it's finest 🤣

[vital temple]

Why did they remove common lobbies, bring them back!

[indigo wagon]

3 Druids doing ghost king in solos lmaooo SDF you are a sad sad man

[civic anvil]

i'm not going to explain why calling your assertion arrogant and ignorant is not namecalling. i'm just gonna jettison this convo.

[prime saffron]

Bro thats what you were doing this is crazy funny

[warm ingot]

Did we make solos actual solos yet?

[atomic galleon]

Guys should i pick warlock or sorcerer

[fossil blaze]

no, its literally just trios with one extra step

[wooden gulch]

[dapper mortar]

meta for solos hr atm is find ppl reall fast to fight other teamers

[mental willow]

No, but they might revert back to trios only later

[atomic galleon]

Yea its solo for 2 minutes then its trios

[tribal zodiac]

Sorc is more advanced, you need great spacing and moves all around maps.

warlock is easy to play to catch basics

Imho Sorc is more fun, but depens 🙂 try both.

[warm ingot]

I had so much fun fighting solos this morning then started running into preteaming solo groups (fully geared clearly met up)

[atomic galleon]

You know what else is massive

[rustic frigate]

Solos is a diy matchmaking, nice SDF

[atomic galleon]

I tried both, warlock is easy but not fun and sorc is fun but gets clapped with one shot

[tribal zodiac]

I found out Sorc way more fun. My choice is always Sorc over Warlock.

• but thats becuase he has spells to do, like you can do combinations etc, always doing something..

Warlock feels more PvE oriented to me. and booring in way of casting

[hardy stump]

sorc will always be most fun caster in this game, only one who got 30 spells and most of them actually have a use

[warm sun]

you wrongly assumed what i was saying for no reason and then called me ignorant and arrogant. kinda crazy

[atomic galleon]

It still holds potential, the issue isn’t the dev or their skill but their incapability to not understand their own community and following the soo called vision ✨

[hardy stump]

counterpoint, but kind of related:
sdf is an oyster and is making a pearl in his skull

[fossil blaze]

"solos" has more trio parties than trios ever did

[hardy stump]

wat?

[wispy heart]

How is the state of the game rn?

[tribal zodiac]

Fine, dont read discord sweat ppl, they are simply toxic. hop in, play few days and you will see.

[hardy stump]

I've never been on vc here, but its pretty big indeed

[paper valley]

its not just discord bud.. look at active player numbers

[atomic galleon]

Well i do only play PVE as this game feels unworthy of pvp modes (they’re too unstable)

[livid onyx]

Yo Bennet whatup man? How you been

[tranquil drum]

why is there duos in solos??

[tribal zodiac]

Then try Rogue 🙂 easy money, free lockpicks, agile.

[atomic galleon]

Wait until u see 6

[pale arrow]

I wish people would read the announcements or at least read back 1 page before asking the same damned question in here every 10 minutes every time there's a change that's obviously jacked.

[fossil blaze]

yoooooooo!!!

been playing some "solos" in hopes I can run into an actual solo to fight instead of an entire HOA board of wusses running in a stack

wanna run some together in a few?

[atomic galleon]

Rouge is too killable hahaha
Someone farts and he dies

[harsh coral]

this game is killable

[tall pagoda]

dont worry guys. we can just snipe eachothers lobbies and trio solos!!!!!!!!!!!

[warm sun]

one shot and one shotter

[sonic maple]

Can't gem all atts

[pale arrow]

• 1 All atr is a max roll and you can't gem max rolls.

[limpid briar]

is their a way to change server regions i keep getting us west when i should be us east

[nova jetty]

No Stat or Roll should affect Movement Speed.

• Makes classes unbalanced by default.
• "Gear Checking" starts with MS
• Getting wacked down with a torch by someone in full plate is BS when ur in cloth or leather.

[humble wave]

devs cant know what solo even means...

[wraith tangle]

im so tired of ironmace adjusting values for balance reasons, only to roll them back and call it a new patch. We havent had any new weapon types in almost 2 years now, can someone just rig some animations to a few assets from the market and call it a day? SDF talks about working so hard on his game but he literally just takes an old patch, slaps a new number on it, and announces it as a new update. Cant wait for Midnight Walkers to come out. Anyways, how's everyone liking the new tarkov wipe?

[kind thistle]

Bruh

I am only dying to teams in solos

[austere beacon]

Make friends in the solo q then lol

[kind thistle]

“Just play trios in solos” ur as bad as SDF

[wraith tangle]

why even add solos back if they want you to party in game? Just leave it out, at this point all its doing is splitting the player base, making it unenjoyable for the solo players AND trio players

[nova jetty]

No Stat or Roll should affect Movement Speed.

• Makes classes unbalanced by default.
• "Gear Checking" starts with MS

[dim totem]

lets get duos back and ill return to the game

[wooden gulch]

yeah duo are quite fcked up too

[pale arrow]

I think you mean duos without team-up.

[wooden gulch]

why not try :
you can't team first floor,
you can duo second,
and you can trio third ?
so you can't team at all in GC like old OG solo and can only duo in ice abyss, not perfect but for now should do it, what do we think?

[full nacelle]

I QUIT UNTIL YOU CANT SHAKE HANDS IN SOLOS

[toxic sedge]

is teaming in HR still forbidden ?

[dim totem]

sdf has gotta just revert to how the game was with solo/due/trio queues and just work on balancing classes more and we would be happy, no?

[wooden gulch]

bro wrong chan I guess

[pale arrow]

I'm not worried about it, what I am interested in though is if there's actually more solos successfully soloing in trios than solos because I would bet dollars to donuts people taking advantage of this issue are in the solos queue.

[empty sun]

don't discuss moderation in the server please and keep this channel to game discussion and keep it civil, thank you

[dim totem]

I just don't see the "vision" of the future of this game anymore, nor do I see the light at the end of the tunnel that is this wipe

[toxic sedge]

teaming in HR is still forbidden ?

[pale arrow]

I think your guess is as good as any of ours at this time. The handshake mechanic would suggest no, but nothing is clear at this time.

[wraith tangle]

maybe when they roll back sdf's promotion there will be some hope

[wooden gulch]

there is a feature for teaming I mean... teaming with more than a what a team can contain (more than 3) sounds forbidden in HR ?

[earnest valley]

SDF. will forever and always stand for SDF - 1.
Super Dimension Fortress Macross

[nova jetty]

@glad thunder You need to learn that the issue isn't the damage numbers, its the mechanics of the classes that need fixed. Stop the flip-flop changes and fix something meaningful.

• Rangers: The damage isn't the issue as much as the CONSISTENCY of the EASY damage is.
• Rogue: This class is designed to all-in and lose or all-in and win. Leaves very little counterplay in non-armored matchups. Ultimately leads to a poor experience overall.
• Add anti-heal to explosive bottles to balance the healing in game. Super simple and gives people a reason to carry them. Also, this fixes the "nerf rat" complaints cuz now it'll be common to carry a bottle or 2.

I could go on but these are the top two.

[toxic sedge]

ok to make it clear I'm going to go to hr right now, check spectate if there are some teaming

[pale arrow]

I don't think you understood me, wait for an answer from someone else as I clearly will not be able to help.

[wooden gulch]

it's top 3 but ok 🤓

[full nacelle]

take parties out of gc solos

[dim totem]

this wipe is somehow worse than patch #69 i believe it was, difference is that they rolled that one back and now the dumpster fire just might take out the whole game

[edgy salmon]

I'm glad I can't fill with my duo, and can't queue with him in solos because of region lock

[wooden gulch]

[humble wave]

just had a game where i met no teams in solo, best game in looong time

[static mauve]

im stuck ina loop trying to reconnect into hr ice abyss after it just didnt load

just getting "match is in progress please wait while we reconnect"

[fervent wigeon]

Not yet

[full nacelle]

u have to wait till the match is over and then ull be out

[pale arrow]

I've had that happen to me before. In my case, eventually it sent me back out to the lobby with all the stuff I had it just took a while like 5-10 minutes. Suspect when the round ends and you're trying to reconnect that's what indicates that you get released.

[pale arrow]

This tracks with my experience that I just described. likely the case.

[static mauve]

okay thought id lost everything

[pale arrow]

Probably not.

[tribal zodiac]

Maybe.. If in “Solo” que you can get up to +1 duo.
It might be ok

+Fog Of War comeback

[humble wave]

no, then its not solo lol

[rain creek]

hey everyone, coming back for solos after a long stop, what is the current state of druid? It was my favorite class, wondering what the best way to play it is now?

[tribal zodiac]

Im not sayin ITS SOLO.. but possibility.

1v2 can be handled.

Same for 2v3 in “trios”

[pale arrow]

Yeah, in theory you could do a 1vLobby but that doesn't make it desirable.

[rose scaffold]

In the updates it reads: Changed in-game queue modes to Solo/Trio (Party). does that mean solos are back and you queue only into other solos or does that mean you queue into everything but just cant party up as a duo?

[tropic rain]

God listened. I got access to the playtest of swordai. Finally I can substitute this game with something. Thanks @glad thunder for making me quit the game I liked the most

[civic anvil]

it means you que into solos then people team into duos and trios and team you.

[full nacelle]

people are shaking hands and teaming in solo lobbies. its aids. i've wasted 4 8-12k kits today. mostly teamies killing me. brother its not worth it still.

[tribal zodiac]

Im so glad im Rogue main who can handle running from trios tho…

I rly admire solo cleriks rn

[tropic rain]

Same bro. And when I try to team, a barbarian fake Y and bardiche the soul out of me at the moment I press Y

[full nacelle]

i dont understand playing the game to run

[wooden gulch]

make friend or die trying => my life as cleric rn

[civic anvil]

to be fair that's deserved as you were about to become a dirty teamer.

[tropic rain]

What am I supposed to do? 1v2 and 1v3 all the time?

[full nacelle]

fking aids bro. i feel for u. i just enjoy the combat in this game way more than mordehau or chiv or anything. if the combat didnt feel so good id play something else. i just want a good game bro

[low mica]

Peak gameplay, just running. Might as well boot up Wii sports or something

[pale arrow]

That bait and swap tactic is diabolical. I prefer to just start chasing them when the hand comes out so they'll know better than to try again.

[civic anvil]

i'm just messing with you.. but i personally would never team with anyone in solos.

[little escarp]

We're turning the game upside down again so that more players stop playing xD?

[tribal zodiac]

Smart plays vs ungabunga W+M1 barbarians with double HP of me and more damage on hit. 🙂 Call It whatever you want.

[low mica]

I’m saying bro, Wii sports

[little escarp]

So now each of us deals less damage, but the barbarian can still have 170/180 HP and we deal LESS DAMAGE TO HIM xD

[outer minnow]

why is there a team up in solos :D thought i was fighting 1v1v1 till the barbs double teamed me

[thorn forge]

Hey is anyone else having issues with mission progression since the new patch today?? i cant interact/hand any mission items in to any of the merchants anymore....

[dull temple]

shot at my tm8 on lizard race, bolt is sitting mid air a foot away from his head and he took a headshot. @glad thunder what are these hitboxes, hand over the rights lil bro

[fading peak]

this is true i am the lizard

[pale arrow]

Both lizard and werewolf skins are likely having this problem. But yeah people can swing next to you and headshot you as a lizard RN for sure.

[hoary beacon]

Stupidumbfuck

[dull temple]

no ma'am, we dont speak like that

[fading peak]

come on karina. not cool maam.

[wooden gulch]

lmaooo illusory and pestilence in LR, bro blue or purple cap have to come back

[warm sun]

blue was so good

[stable urchin]

leaving team up on in solos is ACTUAL BRAINROT

[pale arrow]

I think the only playstyle I'm enjoying in this environment right now is pickpocket rogue. I found a group with the same Felidian, when that guy left the room I walked up and just started pickpocketing his friend. He turned and stared at me for like a good 5 seconds and then ran off. No nametag win.

[wooden gulch]

[pale arrow]

And here I thought I'd need hide mastery, but 8 seconds is fine when they won't know you're an enemy when you show back up.

[dull temple]

🔥

[wooden gulch]

pickpoket no hide big b bro

[ebon musk]

Oh, neat. Back to being statchecking and not skill based.

[pale arrow]

I really wanted to fit in poison and I legit hate that hide mastery doesn't include sneak. Turning those lemons into lemonade as best I can over here.

[barren cove]

again uninstalled this fking shit game. Solo experience: get joined 3 mins late into a game -> a teamed up group of 3 sees you and runs you down. The game is so boring, im not looting just running to the middle like everyone else and pvp a bit till you get third partied. deaths dont matter, wins do not matter. great job @glad thunder . 0 content in the last months and even the shield block mechanics dont work good. zzz

[nova jetty]

@glad thunder You need to learn that the issue isn't the damage numbers, its the mechanics of the classes that need fixed. Stop the flip-flop changes and fix something meaningful.

• Rangers: The damage isn't the issue as much as the CONSISTENCY of the EASY damage is.
• Rogue: This class is designed to all-in and lose or all-in and win. Leaves very little counterplay in non-armored matchups. Ultimately leads to a poor experience overall. 2-tapping mages out of stealth is bullcrap when they also have cutthroat.
• Add anti-heal to explosive bottles to balance the healing in game. Super simple and gives people a reason to carry them. Also, this fixes the "nerf rat" complaints cuz now it'll be common to carry a bottle or 2.

I could go on but these are the top two.

[mental tulip]

sheilds should just be taken out of the game if they arnt going to be fixed

[pale arrow]

Related story, I was really great at blocking with the buckler before the patch, but after it I now I have to learn new positioning for the same effect. I have no idea what they did but I know I don't like it. Other related idea, trying to parry a felling axe seems nearly impossible now also related to the timing of the same hotfix.

[wooden gulch]

imagine a passif way to use poison blade* (mastery sounds good tho), like being close to someone you proc stack of poison every sec (could be a "talend" in the "talend tree"...?)

[tribal zodiac]

have u tried rogue ?

[barren cove]

dont bother, good ideas do not get noticed

[nova jetty]

Yes, I confirmed that with shortsword i could 2 tap squishies out of invis with 1 headshot 1 body shot.

[pale arrow]

I think they should let us poison health potions on the belt when stealthed. That'd be a fun new angle to sneaky rogue.

[tribal zodiac]

and with dagger?)
But also rogue has huge problem with other classes so.

Currently I hate that SSword is way better than any dagger

[wooden gulch]

bro, fire, like you can poison the potion the dude drink

[pale arrow]

Then you stab them up and when they run away to heal you go find the corpse. Hell yeah

[tribal zodiac]

Well there is poison throwables. I feel like im only one who use them

[wooden gulch]

so he start drinking more potion

[nova jetty]

Dagger is nerfed, but that doesn't mean rogue is weak. They just use SS to do overall more dmg comparatively than they have in the past reguarding new HP values.

[wooden lichen]

Yeah Rogue is still very good it's just that daggers are garbage

[nova jetty]

@glad thunder You need to learn that the issue isn't the damage numbers, its the mechanics of the classes that need fixed. Stop the flip-flop changes and fix something meaningful.

• Rangers: The damage isn't the issue as much as the CONSISTENCY of the EASY damage is.
• Rogue: This class is designed to all-in and lose or all-in and win. Leaves very little counterplay in non-armored matchups. Ultimately leads to a poor experience overall.
• Add anti-heal to explosive bottles to balance the healing in game. Super simple and gives people a reason to carry them. Also, this fixes the "nerf rat" complaints cuz now it'll be common to carry a bottle or 2.

I could go on but these are the top two.

[pale arrow]

When I'm stacked on cash I'll bring in a stack here and there, the crafting on them is a bit much for the effect. It'd be nice if we could just buy them direct, then I'd probably use them more often.

[wooden lichen]

Unique rondels go for 200g lmfao

[barren cove]

thank you sdf for freeing up 11gb of computer space. You did great with that! Never wanted to free up space this bad

[tribal zodiac]

I wish Rogues has Ability pouch with Poison vial,SMoke bomb, Blinding Sand,caltrops (Casters like ability wheel)

[pale arrow]

It'd be cool. The only reason people hate rogue is because when we are powerful we erase people landmine style with ease, but when we're not we're a total joke. In reality you generally wouldn't try to stab a guy in full armor though, you'd probably use other stuff to deal with them much like you're suggesting. I'd rather have tools for harassment and zone control over killing ability for sure.

[tribal zodiac]

Its becuase ppl dont even try play rogue for like 2 weaks or month.. I legit have total awareness agains rogues and if I play different class than rogue(main), I have 0 problem with rogues.

[pale arrow]

I like stealing, sneaking around, and looting, but the first two become challenging with the random game changes and bards will always we better looters because they have wanderer's luck which feels bad.

[azure panther]

so when can i have my actual solos mode?

[pale arrow]

Yeah, I too have no issues with them, but to the point I'm likely to know where they're hiding, how they'll move, etc.

[low helm]

yours?

[nova jetty]

@glad thunder why is squire rogue 2 tapping with SS?

[cobalt ermine]

i dont like pvp :(

[median salmon]

Ambush, + Headshot x2 = GG

[tribal zodiac]

why every class 1,5taps anything with anything?
its not about rogue

[nova jetty]

a barb 2 tapping makes more sense than an invis rogue

[azure panther]

have yet to see another actual person playing solo in the solos mode lmao

[pale arrow]

White short sword is 24 dmg, avg player defense v phys is 25%, headshot is a 200% damage modifier. So you get hit for about 18 after adjustment x2 for each headshot, result is 72 dmg. With poison or any reasonable amount of str on gear they probably have about a 10% dmg increase before PDR, so realistically the dmg would be around 80-90 all tales told. Likely to kill lots of classes in squire, especially casters with lots of knowledge gear.

wait base dmg wrong will fix

[tribal zodiac]

Why barb has same almost speed like rogue, twice more HP as rogue in full pdr and still 1taps

again: its not about rogues.

[tidal ridge]

white is 24

[median salmon]

why would you play solo in the "not really solo" mode?

[low helm]

thats cause this community will do anything to min max. im sure theyre playing with their friends and finding each other in dungeon. theyre cringe

[mossy vessel]

Yes, teaming in solos is so much fun?

[median salmon]

did that all this morning, it was a BLAST

[pale arrow]

As stated. Fixing it. Also didn't consider phys dmg + and potential use of poison etc.

[low helm]

im not suprised

[median salmon]

its the vision, it's so sweet I can taste it!

[low helm]

lol

[opal schooner]

⭕

https://tenor.com/view/sloppy-pencil-chasing-tail-dog-animation-loop-gif-10146816566728554841

[pale arrow]

Okay it's fixed. Borderline 2 is kind of unlikely for a kill, but 3 is nearly a guarantee.

[low helm]

someday your whole family will go down Odoyle

[timber rune]

nice to see people sniping the same solo lobbies with their friends then teaming up so cool man

[low helm]

sdf tried getting rid of the cringe side of the community. solos brought them back

[timber rune]

remove solos

[low mica]

Bro just counter baited lmao

[ripe warren]

how do i send a chat to someone in game

[opal schooner]

Thats it! No more solos, duos or trios! 0's only

[pale arrow]

It tracks right along with the vision of running into random and wild encounters in the dungeon, oh wait no... No it doesn't. The vision always fails to consider out of game collaboration, the common denominator of almost all the exploits we have to deal with.

[timber rune]

can druid have access to ak-47s next patch please

[low helm]

back to trios only. the community doesnt know how to handle solos so take it away from them again

[ember dock]

Yea im waiting for my buddy to get on. Were gunna queue at the same time and bully everyone

[azure panther]

also why tf does sdf think its okay for any class to instanly clear boss ads with 1 click

[sudden shuttle]

Part of the vision and only he knows. The games turned into dogsht and its wild that he doesn't aknowledge any of the concerns and hides in the dark.

[trim flume]

THIS DEV REALLY MADE SOLOS AND THE FIRST SOLO WHO MAKES A TEAM OF THREE WINS ! NICE SOLO GAMING EXPERIENCE IRONMACE BEST DEVS !!!!

[timber rune]

im 65

[wooden gulch]

unfortunatly not anymore mate

[dapper mortar]

xd

[young depot]

Not to mention they made trios to where you have to enter the servers alone with no random fill. So everytime you enter, you just get bullied by the first team you run into.

[dapper mortar]

u could bully them back

[pale arrow]

My grammer used to make the best synonym rolls.

[trim flume]

@low helm its irrelevant if u join a solo run and its already during the match so everybody teamed up alrady and u just fucking play 1v3 in a solo.

[young depot]

I'm not capable of killing multiple teams of three alone.

[low helm]

*Saitec

[pale arrow]

That was quality trolling.

[dapper mortar]

wait you enter trios by yourself?

[young depot]

You have no other option because there is no random team fill

[marble chasm]

@glad thunder why have +all attribute rolls been reintroduced? It ruins build creation and forces you to always chose that

[trim flume]

But lets go i will go with this system i just tell my friends to join solo and we team up fast and clear lobbies. Have FUN thanks for this stupid gaming experience in SOLOS where u play against pre teams. If u cant fight them just JOIN them. Going to preteam in solos all night now fuck this game

[dapper mortar]

you can go into solo q

[mental cobalt]

Sdf”if anyone teams is an instant ban” also SDF” so we added teaming”

[pale arrow]

Can we not do the loop of conversation where someone says there's no random matchmaking, then someone mentions discord lfg, and then someone complains that you shouldn't have to lfg outside of the game this round.

[young depot]

I only play trios

[dapper mortar]

🤯

[grand shadow]

remove solos please for the love of god

[timber rune]

remove solos and ban all solo players

[vast kayak]

How do you add OP stats like +all back into the game and not reroll the gear? Devalue everything that the few who were still playing obtained.

[low helm]

ban solo players from game and discord

[pale arrow]

Hopefully they will ban me and end my suffering, but I won't make it cut and dry for them. Oh no.

[limpid flume]

yall remember when they held the cancer fundraiser event last year ppl dogged on it cus it was "rainbow" colored?

[trim flume]

This devs really did nothing except just nerf the damage on bodyparts and fucking remove modifiers add modifiers remove add remove add its just a circle of ideas haha

[ionic pelican]

did they add solos back?

[pale arrow]

Kind of.

[trim flume]

@ionic pelican solos where u can just do the party emote and make a team so u play 3v1 if someone joins during the match

[signal otter]

solos, but with pre teaming

[ionic pelican]

bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[trim flume]

@ionic pelican just join with your friends and u can play as a team

[ionic pelican]

they dont like dark and darker

[young depot]

same deal, none of my friends like it either.

[trim flume]

@ionic pelican thats karma right their i think they have absolutly no clue what they doing anymore and dont deserve this game at all.

@ionic pelican i mean the devs not your friend bro btw

[ionic pelican]

they always say why am i always on that game i got my friend to play with me once but they was all the way back in december

[timber rune]

solos except for you are solo but no one else is

[ionic pelican]

fr its just sad i used to love this game now it feels like a task to find people to play with or just trying to play the game is terrible

[trim flume]

dont worry this year comes alot of good pvpve extraction games this game will die. 3 Years without really any content or anything just karma right their destroying their own game because they didnt deserve it right from the beginning. Right ironmace ahhhhh nexon sorry.

[ionic pelican]

hopefullly

[balmy owl]

ban sdf from his own game

[low mica]

If arc raiders was first person, this game would’ve been dead

[young depot]

I'm really just hoping for a pvp version of dark and darker with no time limit or borders. Just sit in a server and pvp til you die or leave.

[sudden shuttle]

They keep adding and removing the same thing. They are in development hell so I wouldn't get any hopes up on anything else.

[low helm]

arc raiders isnt even out yet so thats fake news bruh

[ionic pelican]

i wonder what goes through his head when he makes these updates, he trys to say its to balance loot or help the player count but all it does is make it worse

[trim flume]

@sudden shuttle yeah we are the same shit like a year ago again. He just removes +all then adds it again then removes some other shit wtf is going on

[sudden shuttle]

Id again rather go back to the original beta and call it a day. The game state was really good then.

[timber rune]

give me torrent version back

[trim flume]

@sudden shuttle absolutly. Really good

[wooden gulch]

completly wrong bro. Game state during playtest was broken and awful, it was certainly good to play because of new, of hype, for the huge potential we all see, but saying the game state was really good is insane.

[timber rune]

im joking mste

[ionic pelican]

i think like back in 2024 in november the game was really good but thats when the dumb shit started happening at least thats how i feel

[heavy osprey]

SDF: "Hi, everyone. Would you all like a kick in the nuts?"

Everyone: "No, that would suck. We very much like NOT being kicked in the nuts"

SDF : "I think you might like it, though" -- proceeds to repeatedly kick everyone in the nuts --

Everyone : "Okay, we're leaving"
-- people leave in droves --

SDF : "Okay, im done kicking everyone in the nuts. While I still feel like it was the right move to kick everyone in the nuts for my vision, I realize that more testing must be done before everyone can realize that they like being kicked in the nuts"

[wooden gulch]

tried to answer the msg up from yours, sry

[gusty sierra]

Hah

[trim flume]

anybody know how old sdf is ?

[tropic rain]

Let's bet, how long do you think it is going to take SDF to realize his mistake. I think 1 week. This time it is too obvious.

[real trellis]

Hi everyone! I'm completely new, wanna try this game with a friend (though the reviews & reputation are really scathing ngl). Can I have a few pointers about what to do? qwq

[gusty sierra]

Old enough to know better.

[trim flume]

@gusty sierra about what ?

[void kestrel]

we got solos back boys

[oblique steeple]

[green phoenix]

wait how do you queu up duo ?

[trim flume]

@green phoenix you go in solos and team up

[wise ruin]

If my game crashed and I died in PVE would I get my loot back? I was able to spectate when I got back in I had a full unique kit on.

[green phoenix]

bro i was in solo and two people were in the same party @trim flume

i have screenshot @trim flume

[trim flume]

@green phoenix yeah fun game right ? especially if u join a already running match and people team up.

[young depot]

When you first start this game, you might wanna just focus learning pve and hiding/stealth. When you feel you have done enough with the pve, then you should focus pvp. the reason is because you must first learn spacing and timing with your weapons, also what is valuable and what is not. The pvp is something to focus on after because you will need to know how to fight players in order to keep your loot and gear. Once you learn the pvp you will no longer need to hide as much as when you first started the game. but knowing how to hide will come in handy no matter how skilled you get because sometimes you will be stuck between multiple teams and have to wait for the right moment to strike.

[green phoenix]

but how can you create a party in game ? wtf ?

[trim flume]

@green phoenix yes brother its normal i died with my fullkit the same way and couldnt believe that. You PRESS "Y" for the EMOTE so you can team up with others

[green phoenix]

oh hell nah

[vast shoal]

wait so i spawn for my first solos game and the3 first person i fight has a teammaate???????? WTF sdf ur happy with torturing the playerbase that made this game even possible smdh

[trim flume]

@green phoenix yes my friend but wait just ask @gusty sierra he is sdf fanboy #1 and thinks sdf knows better

[green phoenix]

it makes you join their party ?

[azure panther]

tired of seeing the 3 exact same teams of pre teamers at boss every single game

[wise ruin]

If my game crashed and I died in PVE would I get my loot back? I was able to spectate when I got back in I had a full unique kit on.

[trim flume]

@green phoenix yeah bro u can party up in solos what a good idea why no other game already implemented that ?

[green phoenix]

no but you understand what i mean @trim flume I could spectate them and in the bottom corner they were listed as a team, i could cycle through them like it duos

[trim flume]

@green phoenix Brother YES i understand that i have a clip of the same shit. As i Said just go in a solo NOW and press Y you will make a emote with your hand. Go to another player and do that if u do the same to you you are in 1 team

[green phoenix]

NO FUCKING WAY @trim flume

[ornate heath]

my game keeps randomly crashing, never had this issue before

[azure panther]

if yall random team you should be forced into a loading q into trio lobbies.

[trim flume]

@green phoenix yes brother thats the devs vision.

[green phoenix]

I CANT @glad thunder YOUR THE BIGGEST TROLL IN THE GAMING INDUSTRY

[wise ruin]

If my game crashed and I died in PVE would I get my loot back? I was able to spectate when I got back in I had a full unique kit on. SOMEBODY TELL ME I DO PLEASE

[heavy osprey]

Lol I was actually gonna type exactly that

[trim flume]

@green phoenix Brother its just karma i think probably he didnt deserve this game at all, all the hype everything and now he just kills his own game its good its good he gets what he deserves

[azure panther]

yes no fucking shit common knowledge bruh

[wise ruin]

@azure panther WHY SO TOXIC?

[trim flume]

@heavy osprey so u think its a good idea from sdf to team in solos ?

[young depot]

I'd hate to say it Eli but returning to spectate mode means you had died

[heavy osprey]

Uh... you might be replying to the wrong guy, friend.

[real trellis]

that's very helpful!! I assume there's no real tutorial...? Not ragebaiting or anything just kinda lost sry 😭

[wooden gulch]

he asks for gobo tho

[wise ruin]

@young depot Yeah I know I just wasn't sure if I'd get my loot back because it bugged but I did thanks!

[trim flume]

@green phoenix its a joke bro its a joke.

[young depot]

it's all good. There's no tutorial or anything telling you what to do in the game. Though the devs intend for it to be a pvp game. In the early days of the game there was a lot of role playing and proximity chat stuff going on where people did whatever they wanted with the game. I'm sorry that you have to start this game at this point in time. It's not a very good time to play this game.

[open temple]

hey what are the gearscore brackets now? are they back or did they go away whats the deal

[void mountain]

Game was good
They removed solo q
Game is bad

[young depot]

there are none

[wooden gulch]

fr bring back 125 225

[real trellis]

I wanted to start it bc of the roleplaying / proximity chat aspect ngl, sounded like a really unique experience. Even if with premade groups, we'll find a way lol

[young depot]

it used to be really fun back when the game first started. I loved being the booty bandit (my rp character) However, the devs began banning anyone who wasnt doing pvp in their servers. and they did that for a very long time. So no one used the proximity anymore or did anything fun with the game. Now everyone is souly focused on mastering pvp. Which is fun, or was fun til theyy lowered everyones health and increased everyones dmg.

[magic sleet]

sdf is trolling with these updates lol

[void kestrel]

+1 all attributes are back on necklaces. LoooooL. Imagine that, the devs changed their mind again

[wooden gulch]

rings too..

[oak topaz]

#dnd-memes-only message
We found that rolls create gear gap so we removing them again.
Woord?

[real trellis]

This is a bit of a dumb question from my side but how do I cast spells? Could select them I think but couldn't figure out how to use them q_Qq

[rose crest]

Spellbook?

[gloomy nebula]

is normals still whites only or is the game back?

[young depot]

You will need a catalyst of sorts. try a spell book, staff, crystal ball or crystal sword. You will have to charge the spell until the meter is filled. once its filled you can let go and the cast will occure

[real trellis]

Ah, alright-- Ty! Because I figured out how to use Divine Protection, which im rly glad (I got separated from my trio and died like a fool)

[spare flare]

TEAMS IN SOLO SUCKS A LOT

[rose crest]

Facts

[worthy vortex]

so is anyone else noticing server performance issues?

[hallow hinge]

Do we know when season 6 is ending yet?

[young depot]

sent a request.

[keen ginkgo]

i cant play this fucking game because of teaming solos

[left hill]

its so fun though

[untold urchin]

The game is a joke, i love getting hit by a dagger but missing with a double axe

[keen ginkgo]

ragebait

[untold urchin]

I mean it says you been playing for 14 hours and counting soooooo

[open temple]

can someone please explain why they keep updating the game but refuse to put my teammates name aabove their heads. What a stupid F$%king idea.

[keen ginkgo]

left my game on overnight

[untold urchin]

Well don't do that you're helping their numbers lol

[sonic maple]

People cheating

[keen ginkgo]

wdym

[clear jasper]

More hardcore, requires constant coms. Honestly kinda like it

[sonic maple]

Sniping solos and finding each other and teaming is this allowed?

[livid onyx]

Your favorite

[granite warren]

Hi i always die against the wyvern dash any tips (i am a Fighter)

[whole hatch]

someone more experienced on the community side of things, can you DM me the shit everyone is saying is wonk abt this game or the staff team or whatever? im not seeing much i personally have an issue with and have been enjoying some of the newer things since my first times playing a year or more ago

[clear jasper]

Be less greedy with your hits, if your doing repoze you don’t need a lot of hit anyway

[granite warren]

i am playing the little sword

How cuz i just punish his attack and 25% of the time the dash hit me soo instant retry or death in the void

[livid onyx]

Been here since the playtests, the community cared too much about "balance" and not about how enjoyable the game loop is, overall for me the game is easier to hop in and play, the game loop has many options and PvP has never felt so close to a level playing field. Would like to see barbarians morale boost receive a nerf/rework though.

They hate SDF, because they couldn't fill his funny man shoes.

[whole hatch]

i see! thats what ive been thinkin too, ive read most of the complaints on steam or etc, and its been mostly stuff like that, I will say outside of the 1 char slot for non-legendary players i dont have too many immediate issues with this game

its fun! i hope the devs and such continue to work on it, good or bad, and hope they dont drop it regardless of the outcome

[livid onyx]

That's a legitimate criticism, imo the game should go full free to play. They have enough cosmetics now where I think that model could sustain them.

[whole hatch]

i get wanting money, and being eerherhjkaejahrjkfbak abt it, but at least give em like 2 or 3 slots.
rules of 3! yk?

[livid onyx]

I've spent way more on cosmetics than the cost of the game itself

[livid onyx]

Agreed, 1 slot is too little and doesn't allow anyone to try another character without deleting their only one

[whole hatch]

LOL real! i think giving all items that "pay or grind" option is good, rather than it being so selective! i feel more inclined to grind that way, and continue to play, which increases my likelyhood of actually spending money too!

also @livid onyx whats the "line holder" tag?

[clear jasper]

Honestly I’m not sure I would just watch a bard vid on YouTube that kills it cause I kill it as sorc or warlock. But I know when he dashing at you, you need to not have move speed penalty to dodge it. For example if I’m mid cast for a spell and he dashes I have to hold A or D and cancel my spell so I don’t get hit

[livid onyx]

I really hoped they'd have gone full free to play, the announcement for the "demo" version was met with a lot of hate for that reason. Most people think of free to play as full Access now, not like back in the RuneScape days xD

[livid onyx]

Lineholder badges were given to people who supported the game before it's release and assigned themselves the role via a discord event.

[whole hatch]

ohhh! i supported but didnt do anything in discord lol, slay!

[livid onyx]

Hold the line!! Love isn't always on time ❤️

[whole hatch]

✨

[olive holly]

how do i toggle name above teammates head sos

[whole hatch]

most of the steam review hate i see is from features the devs remove or change to see how people react to it and how it affects gameplay vs what they want from it to possibly be lol

[clear jasper]

Not an option, communicate

[livid onyx]

It's only in Adventure mode, normals and high roller have no names above heads now, to keep a chaotic element and make coordination harder

[whole hatch]

i dont think its available outside of the easiest difficulty!

[gusty birch]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-iron-man-rdj-robert-downey-jr-gif-14889389

[whole hatch]

lol

[gusty birch]

So, we did it. Reintroducing to you - wheel. It can lift things, it can make car. Simple and smart.

😆 I mean game in perfect state for now, please just make it a bit more good in optimization aspect 🥺 Really you can get tired of FPS drops in game where you need to see attack and then swing your camera like crazy here and there... you know

[frosty sapphire]

new to the game - will a wipe be happening soon since there is a new season?

[frosty pewter]

i love teaming in solos. idk what i would have done if the devs didnt support it. god is good

[manic wren]

please tell me ur joking ts is ass

[frosty pewter]

hahaha

[broken reef]

"modifier values have been increased or newly added within a range that does not compromise combat balance." One taps are very healthy for the game, llab kits very healthy for the game. good job yet again.

[whole hatch]

explain this further, some of us are dumb

[atomic condor]

so instead of getting solo lobbies, what we got was trios with extra steps

[ivory aurora]

trios with extra steps, but if you take those extra steps you're gambling that its not just a trap to get you in close to die

[void kestrel]

loool

[blazing sail]

AREANA UP?

[wise geyser]

no closed

[proper parcel]

why is arena closed

[atomic condor]

we also got +all back in the game again, i guess SDF just forgor 💀 AGAIN

[unique nexus]

arena wta

[feral karma]

yo can solos team? if so wtf is the point of quing solos?

[whole hatch]

yes

[copper nebula]

arena open !!!!

[ivory aurora]

queuing solos meant that everybody was alone, queuing solo in trios just ensures you will fight against teams of people

[abstract marten]

No nametags on teamates???? pls @ me about it

[feral karma]

yeah but im queing solos, and towards half the raid i get ran up on by a duo or trio. im queing the solos mode

[whole hatch]

been normal for a while, its intended for harderness

[void kestrel]

life is like a box of sdf, you neva know what'chu gonna get

[smoky jetty]

BRING BACK SOLOS

[atomic condor]

went from teaming being bannable/reportable to entirely officially endorsed

[placid lotus]

why the hell we can't play duo, fucking hell

[feral karma]

yeah wtf, whats the point of a "solos" option if people can just stick their hand out in the gamemode and know for a fact everyone their going to fight is solo

[whole hatch]

i try arena cause im curious, and my teamate gets mad and kills me lolllll

[ivory aurora]

welcome to dark and darker, everyone's salty and takes their anger out on you

[smoky jetty]

had people even faking to be friendly partying with me and then attempting to team kill me after I kill bosses

[whole hatch]

their anger is fair, i didnt know if id lose shit so i went full squire

[glass crow]

so we can just buy gear off market for arena again??

[atomic condor]

that should be the risk of teaming organically

[smoky jetty]

To expect them team killing you? alright my bad. Hey I just want solos without the Y feature if you ask me

[ornate heath]

"Failed to connect to the server
Quit the game." why am I getting this for an hour already

[smoky jetty]

Its a sign of god meaning that you should play another game

[atomic condor]

the ability to form an official party throws a bit of a wrench into the whole thing, but teaming up with another party/person organically in a dungeon is risk vs reward, who can you trust and always keep an eye out for signs of aggression,

[ornate heath]

i wish there was a better one

[smoky jetty]

well I prefer to play as a solo, but I see the same trios in my solo games for hours and I know damn well they will not get banned and they hardrushing everybody, killing on sight and griefing me at boss

[feral karma]

yeah whats the point of quing solos when you can still team

[atomic condor]

well no why would they, teaming is 100% officially endorsed by IM

[ornate heath]

remmember you can cheat 10 times, but not 11

[smoky jetty]

my point is simple, just bring back the solos

[mystic sky]

[atomic condor]

oh no i 100% am in agreeance with this, don't get me wrong

[whole hatch]

welcome back*

[feral karma]

the mode is just turning off the fill at this point

[smoky jetty]

in the moment we have basically 2 trio modes, hilarious to me

[atomic condor]

yea, trios and trio with extra steps

[whole hatch]

most ppl i find in trios are also just solos looking to team LOL

[sullen mesa]

https://www.twitch.tv/y4mi/clip/MoistTentativeTomatoMikeHogu-lsFZ6JvG_neZEVFy @glad thunder

[rocky elk]

@ruby dragon hi

[vast saffron]

Why is nobody pointing out the fact that continuous dungeon makes this solo system so much worse? I mean it’s bad regardless but what on earth convinced the devs to think that a solo loading in five minutes after another solo that’s already established a team is fair?

[granite locust]

question for arena is it still crafted items/found items only if you dont want to lose them?

[spring cave]

Someone please let me know what I’m meant to do about a bear Druid that I’ve outplayed like fuck and hit him 4 times with 2 of them being long sword parry’s and 2 being normal first attack stabs but he still just 2 taps me while im full plate which is 50% pdr and 140 hp like what am I meant to do and by time I got onto spectating him when he killed me he was already past half hp just from natures touch and restore and it was about 6-8 seconds it took me to go onto spectating him like wtf

[mossy vessel]

sdf said it would be but i guess not

[sturdy fable]

hard nerf wizzard pls ?

[sullen mesa]

https://www.twitch.tv/y4mi/clip/MoistTentativeTomatoMikeHogu-lsFZ6JvG_neZEVFy @glad thunder

[sullen mesa]

There is no way this is a real message that someone typed and hit enter

[warm idol]

SDF shouldn't be running your local burger king, let alone a whole game. guy does whatever he wants instead of what the community wants. also has a fragile ego and can't take any criticism to help improve his game. sorry but I will not be returning to the game just so he can go back to his "vision" in a month.

[whole hatch]

why is my teamates user red?

[dapper mortar]

think he means nerf sorc

[sturdy fable]

You’re saying that because you’ve probably played 1000 games stuck below 2k elo.

[silent notch]

yay for state sponsored teaming in solos

[glass coral]

Natural player interaction in my multiplayer hardcore rpg full loot extraction game? absolutely not. We must have artificial rules! You must wait your turn to fight this man in a 1v1 cordial duel! I want the least amount of player interaction possible!

[median salmon]

its SDF giving everyone that wanted to play solo a giant middle finger cause his "vision" failed epically.

[sullen mesa]

Wizards is the single weakest class in the game... I think you just suck lil bro

[rare oracle]

Is the bug report a good tool for letting them know there’s trios in my solo lobbies?

[silent notch]

wonder how those steam reviews taste lol

[silent notch]

I fully support reporting anybody in a party in solo mode for cheating. idgaf if its built in now. good way to show them the players hate it

[sullen mesa]

https://www.twitch.tv/y4mi/clip/MoistTentativeTomatoMikeHogu-lsFZ6JvG_neZEVFy @glad thunder

[sturdy fable]

You just don’t know how to build it, so speak for yourself, “lil bro”

[sullen mesa]

That is a fact, no matter how you build it or what you think. Any decent player knows this, you must be stuck in normals

[weak wraith]

Both of you stop arguing over a dead game man! SHIT!

[dapper mortar]

you switch to crossbow and range it

[spring cave]

I did he just kept running away healing then coming back then panther jumping ontop of me and going bear form

[sudden shuttle]

Run speed from 300-330 seems to be a very small difference now

[dapper mortar]

what was his gear like?

[spring cave]

And there was a time where he jumped ontop of me and I got so close to him that he stayed chicken and I hit him once with my long sword stab and one fran axe and he still lived like why can chicken survive that
He was in mostly purple with all random attributes and couple legendary like a leg forest hood and them leg boots that give str and will I can’t remember the name of them tho

[sullen mesa]

https://www.twitch.tv/y4mi/clip/MoistTentativeTomatoMikeHogu-lsFZ6JvG_neZEVFy @glad thunder

[hexed burrow]

short-sighted and flip-flopping king of the universe

[twin pier]

dose anyone remember when solos was solo? pepper ridge farms remembers.

[glossy moat]

i was about to ask if solo que was back yet but i can already see my answer

[median anvil]

that was probably me. I've been making ppl chase me for days now. Nm read the rest of your comments, I never actually kill anyone solo.

[twin pier]

druid is a unforgivable sin

[lean thistle]

is arena found in raid or keep everything?

[median anvil]

dude everything kills druid now all you can do is run. and i never see warlock unless its fighter style warlock. everyone just shoot full damage arrows all round and runs you down as fighter or barb.

[zinc dust]

bs

[median anvil]

they've basically just balanced everything back to where i started in the game arouind two years agao

[sudden shuttle]

yeah this is far from the truth

[tall girder]

@glad thunder why is common zweihander's damage lower than common longsword's? Zweihander is the bulkier and slower compared to longsword so it should have a higher damage output, also the zweihander does not have a riposte option for tremendous damage.

[twin pier]

lol i watch druid kill everyone and can not be caught

[median anvil]

idk, i just make ppl chase me all round, which they actually do

[amber oriole]

Dying to full trios in solos hr. I see the vision

[mint sail]

is it new that the panther can now silence?

[cosmic swan]

No, it used to do it when released, then it was removed at some point and reintroduce a couple month ago

[mint sail]

dumbest shit ever

now druid are absolutely way too op

[tall girder]

panther is so squishy now that its not too bad

[fierce violet]

Wrong. It gets a decent amount of bonus hp over human form. And still has 25% PDR. And its body positions means you never headshot, and lack of smooth animation when moving around means it body teleports under your nose.

[twin pier]

is it allowed to group que to get into same game and shake hands while talking in a filthy discord chat on the server

[amber oriole]

idk but it was a dumb choice to leave handshake in solos

[twin pier]

i could just be a edgy guy but i think solos should be solo lol

[amber oriole]

yeah fr bruh. they gotta adress that or just delete solos again

[tall girder]

panther form: lose 30% pdr, 10% max health bonus

a druid with 100hp will become squishier than a rogue in panther form

[twin pier]

panther should headshot whole body bc i headshot the class and it takes limb dmg same with chiken

[little scarab]

CRAZY WORK HAVING RANGER SHOTGUN ABILITY STILL BE ABLE TO BUG OUT FOR LIKE THE 10TH PATCH IN A ROW. FIX THE ABILITY LMAO WTF? no reason when using an ability no matter how quick I click the fire button after hitting Q to use it it shouldn't totally break the game. "making my toon fire zero shots. put the ability on cooldown AND makes it so my shit is bugged out and unable to move until I fire a random shot"

[mint junco]

how is the game rn havent played in months?

[twin pier]

did u get silanced rofl

[tall girder]

thats a hitbox issue

[cosmic swan]

pretty much the same then. They litteraly spend the last month removing things then reverting them

[tall girder]

try it yourself and you tell us

[twin pier]

idc make whole body headshot bc they cant fix the hit box and the class is stupid

[little scarab]

nah bro like it's actually a bug been in for a while. if you click to fire too soon it just bugs the animation. you are stuck with the arrows in your bow but actually there are none and you cant move or shoot until you shoot a random single arrow. cant even swap weapons or anything. no I didn't get hit with cutthroat. lmao

[mint junco]

game was horrible when i played just curious if they reverted anything

[tall girder]

then it would become useless as you would get one tapped by half the weapons in the game and two tapped by the rest

[twin pier]

guess what.... idc

[tall girder]

if druid is so strong you should play druid too

[cosmic swan]

We pretty much have the random modifier of season 5. But the Solo mode is messed up because you can team up with other people in the dungeon.

[twin pier]

no the class is toxic

[sharp hollow]

So i've been having this issue whenever i play that the game gets stuck on loading then when it finally loads in, it freezes and gets stuck on frames, then i have to close the game and then take around 5-8mins to load the game back into the match, then in which there is this obscene amount of latency, i have great internet and this is the only game where i have any sort of lag issues with. Anyone experincing this or have any idicators on how to solve it?

[primal fern]

How can you teamup in solos and still que lol

[tall girder]

so is a barb w keying you and two tapping you? so is a rogue landmining you? so is a ranger or spell caster kiting you to death? welcome to dark and darker

[indigo wagon]

Can you please ass real solos into the game man.. cmon what is this troll shit @glad thunder

[delicate steppe]

Rational arguments get you nowhere on here

[twin pier]

barb can be nerfed ranger is meh kinda strong and rogue is weak af sorc is op and also toxic

[storm hazel]

theres solos now ?

[primal fern]

I was having fun until there were 6 people in a room with a 3 man team...

[void kestrel]

start solo, emerge into trio... lmao

[tall girder]

and who do u main?

[twin pier]

ive been playing wiz alot this wipe bc my main is so useless

[golden merlin]

THIS GAME IS SO DEAD JESUS LORD solo are full of duos so painful

[cosmic swan]

Yes, but no. The Solo queue is back but you can team up with other player in the dungeon with the Y feature. So it pretty much always end in 3vs3. Or if you're unlucky and get in a game that already started then you're 1vs3

[dapper wolf]

bro game crashed and now all my gold is gone

[median anvil]

gotta love watching a sorcerer instantly cast a lightning storm in an enormous area destroying everyone in seconds if not instantly.

[tranquil burrow]

Can we just take solo Q out? It was literally better to solo Q into trios than Solo Q into premeditated trios.

[median anvil]

imo ranged weapons are toxic now. Everyone is just shooting full damage arrow across entire modules all game

[twin pier]

u can avoid that tho worst ones are frost lighting or the aoe knock back one making it so u can never get to them if ur not playing barb frost lighting making it so they can just bolt u and kill u with u not being able to do much of anything

[livid kayak]

why does the dev seem to not give a shit :( i want to see this game succeed but its soooooo fucked

just re-installed after a year of not playing or keeping up with it to see if anything had changed or gotten more content, but widely, it looks the same, playes even worse and is overall mid af

[twin pier]

its low key slowly getting better like im about to get out and push sdf up the hill

[livid kayak]

i dont wanna be negative, but just kind rubbed me the wrong way coz i expected stuff to be better after a year

[vast shoal]

SDF ISNT THE SMARTEST

[livid kayak]

how so?, well regardless, if thats the case then awesome :) I hope it does

[twin pier]

maybe he will break eventually listen

[livid kayak]

lets bloody hope so

[willow salmon]

great now we have solos, but with teams
f*cking stupid

[novel sleet]

anyone elses game crahs

[sleek rock]

why is HR so hard!!!!

[brittle hull]

Psst—hey, kid. You sick of dying every five minutes? Tired of dodging, parrying, calculating every little move like you’re playing chess?Forget all that. You wanna win? Pick Barbarian. That’s the real secret weapon. No spells, no finesse, just raw, stupid power. While everyone else is rolling to hit, you’re already mid-swing, screaming. Armor? Optional. Strategy? Rage is the strategy. You don’t play smart, you play loud. Go on. Embrace the chaos. Be the storm.

[proven chasm]

Hello , i'm trying to add my friends but it says player not found , we're playing on Steam

can i get some help pls ?

[twin pier]

u add player in the game

[brittle hull]

Ohhh, Steam not working? Shocker. Maybe it’s because you’re trying to add friends on a platform powered by coal. I mean, come on, Steam? What’s next, sending invites by telegraph? Maybe crank the friendship wheel a little harder, see if that adds ‘em.

[proven chasm]

Yes i did , i press the + button and search for them

[fervent idol]

I thought all the steam players were supposed to migrate to blacksmith?

[twin pier]

its the profile name not the charter

[proven chasm]

i didnt add them from steam chill

[fervent idol]

join me in the tavern bar vc and show your screen I will see if I can help

@proven chasm

[lusty kite]

All atts and maxhealth rolls are back on equipment so glad i spent all this time getting my arena set squared away for this weekend.

[dapper mortar]

xd

[unborn sedge]

Honestly its crazy work, that in just over 2 years this game has been run so far into the ground by bad devs that it went from nearly 2 mil players torrenting the game files to be apart of a PLAYTEST down to 3k active players. People used to fight tooth and nail in favor of this game, and now 80% the communities love for the game has turned to hate. Seriously guys. Crazy work.

[dapper mortar]

we're at 5k tbh

[cobalt mirage]

HOW IS MORE THAN ONE CLASS ALLOWED IN ARENA, AND WHY IF YOU LEAVE ARENA EVEN AFTER ITS OVER IT STILL GIVES YOU A LEAVER PENALTY?!!!!!!?!?!!?1?!?!!? IRONMACE IS SUCH DOGWATER.

[proven chasm]

thanks bro ❤️

[dapper mortar]

should just wait till its over

[cobalt mirage]

when the game says DEFEAT OR WIN it's over.

[vast shoal]

its a bug that hasnt been fixed in ages

[cobalt mirage]

I know, it's just absurd they haven't fixed it yet, just been an issue for months ya know.

[unborn sedge]

Steam charts claim 3k but I don't bother to load up the game anymore so couldn't confirm. Thanks for the correction. Kinda wild that of the 5k a little under half are still using the blacksmith launcher. Its almost like the only people that still play are the diehard dedicated fans. The game is in the worst state its ever been (save for patch #69). If they haven't left yet they never will.

[twin pier]

np dude

[grim aspen]

can i take market bought gear into arena?>

[unborn sedge]

Don't get me wrong, I loved this game since playtest 2~3 (not sure when I joined it tbh) but its hardly the same game anymore. With all the monetizing (that they promised not to do), all the false promises (which they promised to stop), and the fact that the core of the game that I used to love is barely even present anymore. . . its just not worth it to play.

[vast shoal]

yea the devs would rather piss off the whole game base with 'their vision' instead of actually fixing bugs the community has been complaining about for the past year

[mortal ginkgo]

Meless classes besides barb are terrible rn just delete them from the game since you don;t want anyone to play anything besides caster or ranger @glad thunder

[grim aspen]

or is it just gear thats says looterd by me

[spiral totem]

sorry but im still confused, how do we get into a trio in trio mode? There is no 'dont fill team' check box.. but i never start with a team

[twin pier]

its part of sdfs vision.... he thought it would be good to have teaming in solos

[lusty panther]

Ima bring solos back but it’s really trios in disguise

[grim aspen]

helllo

[pure horizon]

have to find a team of 1 or 2 people in the dungeon, walk up to them holding ur hand out with "y" and hope theyre friendly

[spiral totem]

so im not missing something, its actually just que solo into both modes and try to make a team or go solo into trio and face a prebuilt team?

[unborn sedge]

Its also super telling that almost every patch since last year or so has about 5~6k funnies on it. That literally means more people hate the updates than actually play the game. People still lurk here (like me) looking at patch notes hoping that someday the game will return to a state that doesn't suck.

[lusty panther]

[twin pier]

yea basically ... u have to have a team pre made to have a team

[cunning jolt]

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow can we rush a fix on warlord horizontal swing where it always hits my elbow and kills me instantly if im using halberd or spear?

[spiral totem]

I get that, but since for ever Ive been able to queue and wait for a team of randoms. I didn't realize he removed that

[cosmic swan]

I just noticed that they added the HP roll too... Not that I'm against it but holy flip flop

[lusty panther]

Also let’s remove name plates so they accidentally team kill their new trios team in solo mode

[twin pier]

best option now is to use discord lfg

[cunning jolt]

Mad cus bad

[onyx lotus]

@glad thunder hope one of your "teammate" co workers mistakes you for a enemy just like your trash mechanic of no teammate indicator besides gear which don't matter when everyone wears the same meta stuff and "accidentally guts you too" good sense of karma, y'all should just get started on your next game with what ever money you have left

[spiral totem]

this is one wild ride haha

[lusty panther]

No it’s deliciously evil and I’m here for it

[twin pier]

its quite wild to remove qol for community

[twin pier]

i low key like no name plates bc it encourages good communication or u lose

[spiral totem]

"sir, the queue times are getting quite long.." ... "Then remove the queues" LOL

[steel marsh]

need to do something about bows and crossbows

[dapper mortar]

yeah gotta dodge them

[vast shoal]

i want my money back

refund me the game im done with this poor excuse of a development team

[steel marsh]

ok thanks boss

[lusty panther]

I want a super solos mode where there’s no limit on teammates , can I get a 12v1 against a Timmy that doesn’t know to press y

[pulsar quiver]

I just gotta wonder if they ever read this shit or do they pretend discord and reddit don't exist lol

[chrome wedge]

had a 4 man going on earlier

[twin pier]

we need to get them before they know how to press left click xD

[low mica]

They answer the least important questions, like I asked graysun to not put lore on fetch quests while ppl were asking questions about the patch then he answers my troll question 🤣

[mental halo]

Really want nameplates back in normals like why

[lusty panther]

How to solo effectively ~ STEP 1 pick barbarian / STEP 2 equip felling axe 🪓/ STEP 3 put on morale boost / STEP 4 (optional if you wanna play with only one hand) team up with other Barbs in solos

[forest temple]

Are people still upet at SDF or are we enjoying the game again?

[low mica]

Yes

[forest temple]

oh sweet

[ember canopy]

Can we random fill trios again?

[twin pier]

im sure its possible but is it part of the vison

[hearty heath]

does goblin merchant still do dungeon recovery for norms?

[twin pier]

naw only gets the stuff ur team takes out\

[dapper mortar]

only pve mode

[hearty heath]

damn

[indigo wagon]

im getting teamed on every game in the solo Q

[lusty plover]

I entered solo and got killed by duo???? SDF VISION!!!!!!!!!!

[midnight dirge]

dont shake those hands boy and girls

[twin pier]

I got a gun the other day from Sako
It's cute, it's small, fits right in my pocket
Yeah, right in my pocket (Sugar)
My girl, you know, she lashes out at me sometimes
And I just froking kick her
And then, ooh baby, she's okay (Sugar)
People are always chasin' me down, tryin' to push my face to the ground
Where all they do is suck out my motherfocking brains
My brains (Sugar!)

[grim ginkgo]

Did u guys clean your belly buttons

[brittle bolt]

when they add solos back?

[brittle bolt]

mb,duos

[twin pier]

dungeon grouping speed run

[south copper]

this game feels so bad rn

[brittle bolt]

?

[twin pier]

first to group wins

[signal osprey]

guys someone put teaming in my solo soup

[hoary edge]

is arena ssf this weekend?

[twin pier]

sdf can we team in arena next

[obtuse yacht]

Return SOLO mode PLS!

[cunning jolt]

@glad thunder Genuinely loving the new solo mode. Teaming up with randoms is quite fun and i can only imagine this is much closer to your vision with adding the in game teamup in the first place

[vocal vine]

man arena is so good with rangers 1-2 shotting my barb with 170 hp and 40 pdr

[twin pier]

When your stars are baked and your rivers fly
Do you ever believe you were stuck in the sky?
When your castle breaks and your feet are dry
Do you ever believe you were stuck in the sky?

[vapid epoch]

i saw someone find a frozen key in HR, does anyone know which module it is?

[inland agate]

so are we back where we started now or is duos coming next update?