game-discussion

[pine roost]

honestly it wasnt to skeltons it was to 6 death skulls and 3 spiders

[whole veldt]

how many times you been banned first temp is like a 3hr ban

[midnight kelp]

i haven't been banned before, this is my first. i had a video popped out from youtube while waiting for the game to load so maybe that has something to do with it

[queen helm]

When is wipe?

[pine roost]

aye neophyte 2 idk what ap is but i got that

[limpid torrent]

Hey it happened to me 5 days ago and someone else on this channel a few hours ago. best solution so far is put a msg in the report-a-bug section in discord, but when you put the msg in, say its happening to others as well. im waiting 5 days on this

[hardy dawn]

whats difference between move speed bonus and additional move speed?

and move speed lol

[bitter mulch]

ay one question, have ever someone had a problem where the cursor goes like top left or top right when trying to cast spells, and that makes you miss the desired spell while selecting it?

[bitter mulch]

one is flat, the other is percentage

[jolly olive]

reaching wanderer on HR will give x4 gold bags. if I reach that rank on 2 characters ill get 8 or the reward can only be claimed on 1 character?

[loud cobalt]

If this game goes trio only and you queue fill with randoms what's even going to stop them from just killing the dude who loads in with them? Or when you kill a juiced team they just kill you and take all the gear for themselves?

Help me process the vision @glad thunder

[rapid prairie]

Only once

[random bramble]

juiced team? there will be no juice. there for no reason to kill your team

also you will still be able to que in solo or duo just in trio game

[jolly olive]

ty

[exotic ocean]

are amd/nvidia filters allowed?

[prime solstice]

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Thank you! Like this game ui absolutely high

[clever wolf]

you can use them for 9 runs...just expect some stern words on the 10th!

[clever wolf]

Yeah okay Graysun, we heard you the first time. Nobody cares about your scam website (apart from maybe Dimo lol).

[prime solstice]

I will show anyone my website by doing VC or on a meet, please trust me.

[clever wolf]

How many SK do you want for it?

[prime solstice]

Sk?

[exotic ocean]

😭

[clever wolf]

Do you accept Graysun Bucks?

[prime solstice]

No

[clever wolf]

Does it do R-M-T for D&D?

[prime solstice]

No

[clever wolf]

Is that a "yes, but can't talk about it in here"?

[tacit anvil]

it means he takes them on fridays

[prime solstice]

You interested, my Website

[clear jasper]

@glad thunder daily ask 5 for monk update!!!

[cold nova]

Do I just vendor all my green/blue items?

[mental willow]

HR with randoms is challenging ngl

[clever wolf]

How many SK?

[unreal obsidian]

just casters and rangers everywhere in arena

[old plover]

anyone else not connecting to the game?

[prime solstice]

14000$

[unreal obsidian]

game crashing after every arena match

[clever wolf]

buck 'o five and a packet of tums.

[charred ice]

We could negotiate, how many donuts are you willing to take?

[narrow spindle]

can we all agree that the game was so much better before random dungeons?

[charred ice]

they just need to remove the map (M), and suddenly its going to be lit again, trust

[flat granite]

Nah, i actually love randomized dungeons (and FoW). I just think the quests need to be changed to better suit random dungeons.

So instead of "find X module" quests you could have "explore X unique modules"

[narrow spindle]

still no nerfs to warlock, barb and rogue yet btw

[vocal turtle]

Forgive me if im wrong but to get permanently banned one needs to get banned 10 times yes ?

[limpid torrent]

nope, a 3-day ban can turn into a permanent if you appeal it and the bot that looks through the appeals finds a trend. still waiting on an answer as to how i cheated 5 days ago, if i didnt appeal my 3-day would be over

[scenic imp]

Thinking back.. holy fuck

[tough smelt]

honestly rogues dont need nerfs. think about it they have 1 maybe 2 viable playerstyles. you nerf those and rogue would be entierly unplayable.

[clear cedar]

two maggots

[fervent anvil]

and whats wrong with that?

[scenic imp]

Somehow someone else was also mentioning the (M) map being removed being a well under-rated idea. (Yeah I kinda jumped the gun, ah well )
They already have us running through randomized dungeons despite knowing where everything is, they just took the automatous consistency out in the long run. Which is fine

I need a reason to think more anyway, and the randomization offers aspects that not enough people frequented when it came to PvP / How it affect matches in all.
The FoW made things a little fresh in each dungeon, and knowing I know just as much as the next guy even if I knew more before. chefs kiss

Map removal would add the neccessity of recalling steps- or mental mapping outside the mini.
It'd be awefully interesting.

[tough smelt]

rogues have it rough man. think aboout it, their perks have been split up, they havent gotten a new weapon in years, they have low health and rely heavily on gear. unlike the w keyers

[fervent anvil]

yeah but they are rogues. and rogues can burn

[tough smelt]

they need to make pickpocket great again

[fervent anvil]

nah they need to remove the class

[tough smelt]

couldnt agree more, remove the barbs

[wise geyser]

You get random people in trios high roller?? It’s a solid 10min queue if not longer

[tacit anvil]

bald cleric looking great

[bright yacht]

yo wtf is semi wipe

[river iron]

can anyone tell me when exactly wipe is? i have pp and wanna use it lol

[drowsy niche]

when are the servers going to be fixed so we can play???

[bright yacht]

they only semi wiping gold and items? or is it just a wipe

[tacit anvil]

should i wait for szn 7 to buy legendary?

[oak topaz]

All items and gold removed

[bright yacht]

whats the semi part?

[cosmic swan]

It happen when they really don't have enough content ready to wipe so they made an excuse to wipe early but it's not a real wipe. It's for testing purpose you know

[oak topaz]

Yes.
Don't rush bro this game in a bad spot rn(m doing same thing).

[tacit anvil]

dang alr

[oak topaz]

Lvls stay and stuff

[hallow garden]

Game goes from 16,000 down to 7,000 in just 1 Month - So we have 7000 Trio losers playing this game I guess?

[bright yacht]

the game has lost about 50% of its player base due to the removals of solo and duo, forcing solo players to 1v3 at times people are also pretty mad that bought the game for pve mode for it to be removed not even a season later

[cosmic swan]

For now, wait until he remove random attribute, solo and duo from HR too and reduce the TTK even lower

[hallow garden]

Don't play the game.... that's the best thing you can do - let those trios LOSERS play play and suck themselves

[trail ibex]

Why tf cant i see a thing when outisde the HR circle in crypts?

[bright yacht]

im on strike bro not been playing in weeks

[hallow garden]

Outtaboy

[steep gull]

do you still lose items in areana?

[hallow garden]

@glad thunder You suck you trio loser - touch grass and hire Soma back you goblin

[cosmic swan]

No

[dire rampart]

Yo anyone else having trouble logging in? stuck on connecting

[bright yacht]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1097530858421895278

[cosmic swan]

Restart the game, several time if needed

[dire rampart]

Yeah already restarting, just asking

[hallow garden]

I will give SDF a name like our beloved president would: Sleepy Trio Loser SDF

[hardy hornet]

Y'all think dimo is cheating?

[trail ibex]

I wish they had an SSF end of wipe event. That would be dope

[cosmic swan]

Don't really care, that's not making the game better. And we're here to talk about the game anyway

[steep gull]

if you die in adventure mode, do you get your gear back?

[vernal badger]

I would expect him to be a lot better at the game if he was using cheats

[hallow garden]

They could make an event and fire SDF from the company, I would even pay for that DLC

[bright yacht]

i heard you are allowed to cheat but not more than 10 times

[cosmic swan]

I wish the next season would be semi-SSF. Meaning you can't buy gear to the marketplace but consumable and monster loot are still available

[cyan seal]

He is literally an owner of the company

[hallow garden]

The investors can make him leave son

[zealous temple]

zucc it

[cyan seal]

I hope you're right

[cosmic swan]

Actually his not, Terence is the CEO and anyway he can quit

[hallow garden]

Once they lose enoug money SDF will go back to Mc Donalds trust me

[bright yacht]

nah sdf would blame ex employees and playerbase for failure

[hardy hornet]

I'd argue that it is important. If a very popular content creator can get away with cheating then it shows how fucked things are. Especially since other content creators are vouching for him

[winter tinsel]

Me

[hallow garden]

SDF also knows as Sleepy Trio Loser SDF will not be able to do that since all content creators blame him for the death of the game. Articles are being written about it as we speak. Just don't play the game

[winter tinsel]

Yes unless you die to timer it fall in the void

[hardy hornet]

You can die to timer and still get your stuff back from the merchant

[hallow garden]

@glad thunder Sell your stocks and piss off please

[cosmic swan]

The only thing that make you lose you stuff in Adventure mode is the Void or a unknown bug

[clear cedar]

he is not owner, lead dev and terry is the ceo

[winter tinsel]

I’ve lost my stuff from the void before, and then I’ve had friends still get it back. The gobbo merchant can be jank

[clear cedar]

i hope investors make him leave

[cosmic swan]

I hope he finally understand that no one want his vision and that he need to quit or leave any decision making power he have at the very least

[last tapir]

when they will anounce the game will be free forever? just put battlepass in the game,this will make the game thrive again.

[crystal iris]

Hey guys do you know if Aegis can reflect lich's slow orb?

[cosmic swan]

That would ask even more work in skin making and they kinda suck at that. How many skeleton and zombie skin already?

[last tapir]

weapon skin?

[vocal turtle]

dude i dont get this game anymore. I dont know how i was cheating but i got permanently banned just now i have no other application running in the backgroud except firefox. And i only opened the game after resting for 3 days

[last tapir]

so much shit to put skin, armor skin, weapon, acessories. Like, the game needs to be free. Its a hard learning long time game. No one will buy the game anymore.

[cosmic swan]

That could be cool, but they probably suck at making weapon skin too. How long since we get a new weapon, even artifact take so much time

[last tapir]

when it was in epic games the game was in a good way

well, thats a way to make the game comeback. If they gonna do or they can do. Thats on devs.

[cosmic swan]

I believe, if they don't do shit every patch and stop flip flopping everything. Then actually work on marketing, a few twitch drop once a while, sale here and there. I don't know if regional pricing is a thing or not

[last tapir]

wont fix it.

game needs to be free. Thats whats make people not playing, or not want to learn more of the game. And regional price is compared to dollars. in Brazil the game is 150R$

[cosmic swan]

No, what's make people not playing is that the game isn't stable and is currently is a pretty bad state

[last tapir]

who will pay 150R$ on this game ?

[stark radish]

not me, i got this shi for free

[cosmic swan]

Yeah, that's what i'm saying, it should be adjusted to each country

[last tapir]

see? no one will buy this anymore.

its not worth 30 dollars, and not worth 150 Reais.

[stark radish]

its worth like, 10 maybe 15 bucks

[dense hamlet]

no ones buying a fully mostly negative steam game for 40 USD

[stark radish]

but i must include the fact that i would say you should get just a tad bit more then acces to hr and market place

[cobalt gazelle]

has anyone gotten unbanned from a false permaban? ban reason was 'cheating' and they refuse to repond any more on my appeal

[stark radish]

only way thats happening is if you partnered with them on twitch or something like that

[last tapir]

no one is buy a game with negative avaliations. Needs to be free, and they need to have something inside the game to sell. Since its a infinity game.

if they already have the work to make updates for the game. they need updates for new shit to buy inside the game. Not the full game. Its not even sustainable.

Well, that was my thoughts, i still going to play sometimes this game. But when i got my video card, i will go to mistfall hunter. Or wait new extract dark and darker alike game.

[frigid sleet]

so nice having uninstalled this time suck of a game

[vocal turtle]

got banned for changing configs perma that is, will i get de banned next wipe ?

[cosmic swan]

I think you need to make an appeal on their website

[vocal turtle]

already did just wanted to know how the ban thing works just incase they dgaf

[clear cedar]

Doesn't work

[clear cedar]

only way of you getting unbanned is, devs changing

[muted stump]

from 20k avg players down to 7k avg players wow

[rough plinth]

Brother, if this wipe doesn't bring anything, I'm going to Roblox.

[vocal turtle]

real answers please brother i do agree tho sdf needs to expire

[cosmic swan]

Yeah I heard a lot of people who got falsely ban reecently and making an appeal seems useless. I guess the game is not dying fast enough for SDF so he started banning random people

[daring summit]

i dont think sdf has any idea how toxic random trios is... 1/20 games you'll have teammates that talk and actually try to loot and go down into lower layers. Other than that they're gonna run it down and die rinse repeat... STRAIGHT MUTES

[vocal turtle]

huh ig the real question is if i wanna get de banned huh 🤔

[cosmic swan]

If it's a perma ban and you already appeal I don't think so unfortunately

[vocal turtle]

ok ig i quit then huh, damn all that biss too.

[fluid lily]

What is up with so many people getting banned recently, what changed?

[vocal turtle]

F us for playing ig or maybe the people who sh_t talked too many times about sdf in the discord is getting banned lol XD

[fluid dove]

dimo

[muted stump]

just quit the game let another game developer steal the idea after sdf shuts down his company

[fluid lily]

I imagine it has to do with dimo being revealed as a cheater so they do some "harsh anti cheating" redemption arc (the new system where you can spam report into a false positive) now but it seems to be all false positives

[vocal turtle]

anyways gents seems like sdf sniffed the line this time huh

[tulip ridge]

Thank you SDF for ruining one of the best games ever made. You are a true piece of shit!

[severe coyote]

Why does graysun have his own channel? As if anyone actually cares what that Goofy has going on. Game is better if him and sdf resign.

[vocal turtle]

carful bud your gonna get shadow banned XD (i got banned perma lol)

[severe coyote]

Sdf doesn’t care about dark and darker, they just want to milk the mobile for all they can and then fade into obscurity

[vocal turtle]

get ready to get shadow banned lol (its the vision) thou shant talk shit ig

[night citrus]

womp womp womp. dont you guys have another game to play since you hate this one so much?

[vocal turtle]

how much does sdf pay to glaze ? (legit question)

[severe coyote]

Calm down pole rider. You’ll ride this one until it’s 3 digit players and think nothings wrong.

[vocal turtle]

hourly ? per message perhaps ? (lowkey wanna ride for that $)

[night citrus]

non, you guys are just a bunch of people who, hate yourself lol

[vernal badger]

I'll hold the line if I can get paid

[stable urchin]

Haven’t played in a week, never enjoyed games more fun Play Elden ring boys it’s better

[vocal turtle]

want a first person type game/extraction/mediavel

wait on second thought what was that other game just like DaD ? the one thats still alive that is ?

[daring summit]

getting my HR rewards and then uninstalling until solo/duos come back for both white and high roller lobbys. Cant support these terrible decisions...

[median holly]

Bye bye

[static urchin]

People with friends = losers. Be mad at the company not the players.

[south plank]

So Taverncon? What is it and why is it still running after uninstalling the game? Shady stuff i recommend you guys look into it.

[vocal turtle]

yeah like tf is this guy on about lol XD

[south plank]

Lol ask SDF what Tavercon is and why it's running after uninstalling the game.

[static urchin]

Most games u play have borderline spyware. If you think have a right to private data in 2025 youre delusional. If it was genuinely malicious, im sure crypto wallets would have been drained by now. Not sure why they need something this invasive while having a horrible detection rate. Its more incompetence than it is malice

[zealous tusk]

$W

[static urchin]

Youre not special enough to hack or steal from lol. Most of this community cries about a $8 season pass. What value can possibly be extracted

[south plank]

Typical respons... you haven't been used or abused so why are you crying. Lol that's what you sound like.

[static urchin]

And i promise you, any data collected, is collected by 20 other services or programs youve already agreed to use. The milk is already spilled

Equivalent to complaining about taxes, what are you gonna do? not pay them? wipe ur pc ant not use 90% of services that collect ur data?

[south plank]

Lol exactly don't pay taxes

[static urchin]

come back to reality

[south plank]

Taxes are extortion buddy but keep licking boots. Lol yes defend this shady game like why are you here I'm here to tell ppl this game is shady.

[static urchin]

im sure they care to watch you while you jack off, get a grip

Taxes are extortion but theres 0% of them ever going away? Its useless to complain or cry about. Its already gg.

[wintry copper]

like how you leave the arena match ( even though its over) and you still get a 3 minute penalty. what even

[sage oak]

And I assume you have 2k hours in the game to back that up?

[static urchin]

Do you wait for gas prices to go down before u drive ur car? lmfao no, u dont have a choice, u pay for gas

[south plank]

No but 600 hrs is a lot of time

[lime notch]

do i need squire quests to obtain free common items or i need to do quests in specific merchant?

[sage oak]

Ok so you've been playing the game a lot yet you claim it's shady. What's shady specifically

[static urchin]

You need the armourer for armor, weaponsmith for weapons, etc etc

[lime notch]

thx

[mental willow]

I queue while watching a show so I don't mind the wait. It takes around 2-5 minutes I would say. Eu region. Mostly people running some blue/green/purple stuff trying to earn AP and coins, so don't expect much anyway 😂

[south plank]

After 600 hrs I found out there's a program called taverncon running as a windows app but it's not. Its always running and you have to force stop it manually. That shady and I only just found this out. Why is it hidden as a windows app?

[south plank]

Also it's spelled comn but this discord flags me for texting it correctly

[median holly]

Bro is the only one who knows how open task manager, no one who tested or verified the game knows how to open it

[south plank]

The longer I'm in this discord I can tell it's mostly bots 😆

[median holly]

@south plank feels like the hackerman in movies peeling the matrix

[static urchin]

😭

[night citrus]

then leave

[static urchin]

wait till he realizes police forces can 3d scan ur house with wifi signals. The age of privacy died 20 years ago

[south plank]

😆 make me

[static urchin]

They can determine if youre the attacker in a physical altercation from the gyroscope in your iphone and yourre crying about a dead games anticheat. SENSATIONAL

[ivory kelp]

Dead game or worth getting back into after 18 months off?

[sage oak]

Because all games have those kinds of background processes its apart of the anti cheat from what I can make out. But it seems u found a solution

[south plank]

Like I said before I'm salty about this and will tell everyone I can about it.

[median holly]

I wish i was a bot so i wouldn't have to feel this sad reading these messages

[static urchin]

Ill take the time out of my day, to give you a list of things to worry about SPECFIC to your local community. Lmk

Im sure theres some politicans you can email, or protests or rallies to attend. DO something besides wasting ur energy being upset about data that was already compromised

[south plank]

All anticheats are labeled per there games, this Taverncon is labeled under windows. Shady

[craggy gorge]

OK WE GET IT

[south plank]

I don't think you do

[static urchin]

Every singlke kernel level anti cheat is under windows

[south plank]

The fact you can't find anything stating what it actually is or from the devs. Any time I spell it correctly the way it's spelled in the task manager discord flags me.

[slate peak]

This game is literally **** trash now with all the team killing I can't get into a match without getting killed by my own team six matches in a row first three same stupid **** this is getting out of hand games unplayable now

[static urchin]

I can see you play apex legends. Go look at their anticheat

[south plank]

Yea you can tell what it is and it doesn't run after shutting the game down it goes away

[median holly]

just asking, is your name red?

[static urchin]

This just isnt true

[south plank]

Lol the bots are botting

[slate peak]

Nope Not one bit I keep getting killed by people yelling in the mic saying I'm trash can't do one v one It's your own damn team like they're stupid or something

[static urchin]

i just double checked it literally stops running what the fuck are you smoking

[snow charm]

Is this game dead?

[vocal turtle]

yes

[south plank]

Lol liar 🤣 😂 😅 😆 😴 ur abot

[static urchin]

comm 1_1_

Comn_1_1/ stopped running, it is not longer in my processes

[south plank]

The ppl.that see it will test it for themselves you can keep on doing what you're doing. Liar

[static urchin]

Alright, Iits named "Tavercomn_1_1" feel free to check yourselves

[south plank]

You can literally go in steam discussions and find many pages of ppl complaining about the Taverncon. But sure they're all liars like you.... ill be back later

[tacit anvil]

bets this game is gonna get shut down at season 7 yall?

[south plank]

I genuinely love this game and finding out about this really pissed me off.... if they remove it maybe ill consider redownloading but until then I'm gonna tell people they have shady practices.

[tacit anvil]

its really cool how they have ACCESS TO YOUR PC

[median holly]

you're talking to a door bro, no matter what you say a door can't think, it's useless

[mystic sky]

What are they doing now, bitcoin mining?

[south plank]

I don't know what they do. All I know is that after uninstalling the game taverncon was still running in shut down my PC and rebooted it and it was still there. Someone did mention bitcoin mining... maybe

[tacit anvil]

how do i get rid of it

[mystic sky]

I don't see it on my pc but I haven't played in 6 months

[tawdry grotto]

are u guys experienceing lag today ?

[mystic sky]

Maybe check on the task manager under Services, if it's a normal boot-on-startup program you could remove it there

[south plank]

Task manager, search taverncon _1_1 stop the process. Then if you want to look deeper they literally have it in process under tavernworker and taverncon and you have to use cod to delete them. I'd Google it.

[median holly]

find out a suspicious folder with 32 in the name and get rid of it

[south plank]

Look at all these bots that just nonchalantly tell you some messed up information.

[median holly]

hey just to be sure, i'm joking please don't don't destroy your system, and don't trust strangers in discord

[south plank]

Now I'm convinced these ppl on here are mostly bought and paid for. Like seriously all these bots post nonsense.

[sonic maple]

My buddy in cyber security has vetted blacksmith idk about steam version though

[tough shell]

why can you only take common or lower into pvp?

[south plank]

All I want is a simple answer from the devil on what it is. That's it but they don't acknowledge it either

[sonic maple]

Click on map then click map then click highroller then party size

[south plank]

Devs*

............silence...............

[tacit anvil]

bets this game is gonna get shut down at season 7?

[dense bay]

it wont if it didnt the past two it wont for a new map

[tough shell]

hell shit i

[clear cedar]

last two season wasn't that bad, they really fucked up bad this time.

[sly shale]

@tacit anvil probubly

[graceful storm]

IM knows the game is pretty much gonna die when they do the half wipe, but doing that and hoping more people come back after they get something figured out is their only option so here we are

[frigid sleet]

Steam Charts -2235 people in last 30 days = 21%... This dog shiiii dev team still wont revert the changes... I guess this dog shiii game will just die then. They deserve it

now only 7k avg players... getting exactly what you deserve fucking dog shiii dev team. Can't wait for your game to die, and hopefully someone leaks the game files so we can actually have a GOOD GAME.... Notice how no1 is typing in this chat anymore???? It's because the game is DOG SHIIIIT

I uninstalled days ago. Im super proud to have tanked the steam charts. Dog shiit dev team

[fickle rose]

devs managed to tire the complainers out lol

[graceful storm]

real

[severe coyote]

Upvoting this

[south plank]

Hi

[severe coyote]

Instead of capitalizing on their biggest competitor closing their game down at the end of may ironmace still managed to lose players which is actually impresssive

[south plank]

Look up taverncomn_1_1 and see what Google thinks

[craggy gorge]

bro ur insane

[vale frigate]

Replace arenas with pre-made classes on a battle royal it would be much more fun and more content and new players friendly

[sonic maple]

True arena sucks

[frigid sleet]

the game will be dead long before that

[vale frigate]

Pre-made classes that feel fluid and good it can take a new players WEEKS to even find enough gold for a kit let alone put one together... even have artifact events on weekends fighter get vulgar wiz spellweaver and so on

[gray valley]

games already dead look at how many people are in dungeon rn

[frigid sleet]

i uninstalled, i wouldn't know

[gray valley]

game was dead before you uninstalled

[median holly]

I mean i always accept free money

[vale frigate]

Bet yall would come back for a balanced battle royal with pre-made classes... pregame lobby and i see my to other teammates locked barb and fighter damn now I gotta go healer... last team standing wins

[gray valley]

they wouldnt you are brainless

[vale frigate]

Look at your profile pic... this is game discuss and you whining like a child....

[signal nymph]

Let us turn off arena text chat and clear the chats whenever.....

[gray valley]

how am i acting like a child and if you are making fun of my face show yours?

[graceful storm]

around 50k people recently left the discord according to firebox stream

[vale frigate]

HAHAHAHA 😆 😂 😆 😂

[mystic sky]

#dnd-screenshots message

[warm warren]

look at this discord fight

[median holly]

That's a big W

[mystic sky]

May want to uninstall Tavernworker if you're not playing Dark and Darker these days. Who knows what they may be doing with it running in the background

[median holly]

Selling my data to Chinese workers

[mystic sky]

Who knows ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[median holly]

I approve of it, I'm helping feeding people while they get my history of mangas and light novel i read for the day

[mystic sky]

[atomic condor]

PSA to those who have uninstalled, the anticheat is still on and likely still running on your computers, i would manually uninstall and remove TavernWorker from your machines if you have the game uninstalled

[opaque garden]

Thanks for the tip

[south plank]

Yes I've looked at Google and you have to use CMD to manually remove those. Google it

[mystic sky]

👍

[south plank]

I literally uninstalled this game yesterday after finding this out. I have 600 hrs of game time. I really loved this game. It won't change tho cuz @glad thunder is a scummy bag that won't address this.

[quick basin]

its been real guys, im sick of being let down repeatedly by this team. I just uninstalled, i wish you all the best

[median holly]

You guys would lose your mind if you ever played games like league of legends or valorant, that has system inbuilt anticheat, that one has true access to all your data and anything you do

[mystic sky]

Good thing I don't play those games. But why do you need an anti-cheat that runs on your pc when the game isn't on?

[torpid rain]

brng back solos like right now wtf r u smokinbg

[median holly]

I don't know much about anti cheats, i don't even know what is normal for anti cheats, and i wouldn't even waste my time with it, I know that we have better ways to be scummy than anti cheat that you can see working in your task manager.

[hardy hornet]

What anticheat? DaD doesn't have that

[atomic condor]

just because it doesn't work doesn't mean it doesn't exist

[limpid gulch]

yeah fun game normals only trios yeah so fun yeah

[atomic tiger]

Does anyone have any info on how gear is in testing server

[sonic maple]

Aren't the classes already premade bobby?

[sonic maple]

Same with many games anticheats so if you ever played any of those, many triple A same thing

[vale frigate]

No everyone starts with squire gear and feels like poopy, so new players don't know what it COULD feel like with pre-made made KITS

[novel ferry]

hell yeah we are.

[median holly]

To be fair in a technological stand point it's impossible to create a perfect anti cheat, because it's easier to built hacks than to defend against it, it's a eternal battle

[vale frigate]

Bro just leave the discord if you don't like the game...

[sonic maple]

And cheaters have first go all anti cheat is reactionary making it difficult

[sonic maple]

They just want attention or to push an agenda usually

[wanton thicket]

quick question. if you queue as a solo with fill enabled, does it find two other players?

[median holly]

That's why the games with less cheaters don't have the best anti cheat, they have the best ban system

[dense flame]

yes

[wanton thicket]

i might reinstall then

[dense flame]

might take a minute but usually there is a team of two looking for one more

[vale frigate]

A Battle Royale mode in Dark and Darker could be a transformative solution for its current challenges, offering a bridge between developer vision and community desires while attracting new players. This mode would serve as an accessible training ground, allowing new players to acclimate to Dark and Darker's unique combat mechanics, class abilities, and environmental hazards in a less punishing, low-stakes environment compared to the main dungeon crawl. By focusing solely on player-versus-player combat within a shrinking play zone, a Battle Royale would naturally emphasize the game's core combat loop, offering valuable experience without the constant threat of losing hard-earned gear. This could lead to a more balanced overall game by providing a separate space for players to hone their PvP skills, potentially reducing the feeling of unfairness for newer players in the main game and allowing the developers to refine combat encounters in isolation. Ultimately, a Battle Royale mode could align with the developers' goal of expanding the player base and evolving the game, while simultaneously satisfying the community's desire for diverse gameplay options and a more forgiving learning curve.
To the Dark and Darker Development Team,
Implementing a "Battle Royale" game mode could serve as a crucial bridge between your core vision and the community's desire for accessibility and balance. This mode would provide an invaluable onboarding experience for new players, allowing them to familiarize themselves with Dark and Darker's unique combat mechanics, class abilities, and item interactions in a less punishing environment. Unlike the high-stakes extraction gameplay, a Battle Royale would focus solely on player-versus-player combat within a shrinking arena, naturally encouraging engagements and immediate feedback on combat effectiveness. This structured learning ground would mitigate the steep learning curve, fostering player retention and ultimately expanding the player base. Furthermore, it could offer a dynamic platform for testing class balance and weapon efficacy in a controlled, competitive setting, providing valuable data for refining the main game. This compromise would allow the hardcore extraction experience to remain largely untouched while satisfying the community's need for a more approachable and balanced alternative, ultimately benefiting the game's long-term health and growth.

[graceful storm]

Too much effort brah. Nobody here or the devs care that much right now. Everyone just waiting to see what they do between now and season 7

[south plank]

Don't forget lol def a bot

[inner cosmos]

AI pitch lmao

[south plank]

I forget ita a free to play game no wonder these bots don't care about software running in the background after the game has been deleted....

[scarlet thistle]

anyone else seeing this taverncomn running after uninstalling the game?

[south plank]

Keep digging and you'll find it in the processes. Labeled under windows apps.... the only way to delete is via CMD. You have to manually delete these. Super shady but don't worry the bots in here don't know what it is but they says not to worry. Lol

[torpid rain]

so bring solos back

[summer cove]

the common lobbies is pretty much a battle royale right?

[median holly]

I'm starting to see a pattern over here <@&1019888848773328936> I'm pretty sure it's one guy on multiple accounts saying the same thing, this @south plank started it

[vale frigate]

yes but its not really new player friendly we need premade kits to feel good actually so new player can see the potential

[summer cove]

pre made kits? isnt that the opposite of a battle royale

[south plank]

Lol don't lie I've tagged them Manny times they can see i only have one IP on here... Fing loser

[scarlet thistle]

you must be crazy

[south plank]

No he's part of the problem whether he's paid for or not

[median holly]

I'm Crazy but the mods can check this one

[south plank]

If you notice most of these accounts just blabber about nonsense...

[scarlet thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/balthazar-crazy-family-guy-fou-gif-11775947423386520412

[vale frigate]

not really there is no BR like this right now its all shooters... this game is to complex to just "find" a kit what if your a warlock that need magic healing.... save the gear finding for exctraction and leave battle royal with finding heals or even artifacts around the map

[median holly]

<@&988703997378584596> this is the third guy with this same message, it started with @south plank, this is very suspicious behavior, this guy might be using multiple accounts

[summer cove]

no kit should need anything thats what makes commons so good, its balanced for everyone and then you have to loot your way to being better, everyone will just want the same 4 stupid roles like move speed tru damage and health, seems super unfun to not need to loot

[scarlet thistle]

lmao youre a fool

lets all hop in a call

[summer cove]

lmao i love it

[south plank]

Lol keep at it lil Cry baby. They can see the IPs loser.

[vale frigate]

i think your missing the point that what the extraction mode is for.... the BR would be for new players to learn pvp fast with gear and have fun it would be for more content and a different play style thats more forgiving and also more data for devs to balance... its just miles better then arenas

[scarlet thistle]

<@&988703997378584596> please ban @median holly for false allegations

[south plank]

You know what's funny is that they take for ever to type something out kinda like they're the ones switching accounts lol.

[scarlet thistle]

def sus behavior from @median holly

[wanton thicket]

You are a FOOL, Crazy. going back in time to finally get rid of your rival?

[south plank]

Oh look i just got a warning for insulting lol. Not multiple accounts lol 😆

[scarlet thistle]

failing to do there job still whats new

[wanton thicket]

What you don't know crazy, is that i also went back in time, and soon you will cease to exist, stopping your plan in its tracks

[summer cove]

wht i typed apparently couldnt send, tldr you are meant to die to learn and adding any mode with no consequences to death would hurt gear costs and player counts

[median holly]

You could fight on arena, there you can't lose gear, but it's PvP only

[wanton thicket]

man burialgoods is the goat youtuber

[summer cove]

and the kits people have now are aids but thats besides the point

[vale frigate]

thats boring af and it could take a new player weeks to put together a kit... a BR would be much better with premade kits.. maybe even artifact events on weekends

[south plank]

So what is your opinion on taverncom running in the background after closing or installing the game? Do you know what it is?

[mystic sky]

@dusk tiger I don't work for IM, I have no clue what Tavernworker does. All I know is that a game I uninstalled 6 months ago shouldn't have programs running in the background

[summer cove]

the player playing the game is apart of the game unfortunately, go play Fortnite if you dont want any attachment to your gear, and again commons is just that, just loot more i guess

[vale frigate]

dont care tbh i got a 4090 and 7800x3d it does nothing to me

[median holly]

You can start playing PvE only, learning the maps the topography whats good whats bad, what to avoid and what to look for, i played like 200hrs of PvE only trying to learn bosses, just 2/3 days ago i learned warlord that was my last boss left

[scarlet thistle]

whos down for some fort?

[vale frigate]

growing the player base should be main goal and extraction is wack af anyways with haxers and real mtrd.....

[velvet dirge]

Make the game f2p and it will survive forever

[south plank]

What about you MR also you don't care what Taverncon is? And why it's always running?

[summer cove]

facts its why they added the mode, hell if you have friends just fake pvp eachother in there to get better

[vale frigate]

there is no pve mode anymore split up que top much... and the problem is pvp for new player more the pve

[median holly]

? There's PvE mode still bro, it wasn't removed and it won't be

[summer cove]

so apparently i said another nono word, i run grim vault and that seems to close everything else, DaD does say it crashed instead of closing like a normal game everytime

[vale frigate]

sht is boring af... give me a br that i can climb ranks..

[cosmic swan]

Well, SDF talked about it. It's seems like he was against the idea. It seems like we keep it for now but nothing sure

[summer cove]

apex

[vale frigate]

i dont want shooter

[kindred gull]

go play cod then nerd

[summer cove]

mordhau? the pvp in DaD is the worst part of it not sure why you even want to pvp

[vale frigate]

this game could take space... there is only shooter BR

[median holly]

The best way then is looking for friends here to play trios, trios is safer and you have people with you to teach the ropes

[south plank]

Just talking to yourself

[summer cove]

realm royale also sounds up your alley, or knock off of games like that, i dont think dad is what ur looking for

[vale frigate]

when there is extraction there will be cheaters..... they have a reason to cheat they will sell the gear for money... its wack af

[vale frigate]

everybody has blocked you lmao

[south plank]

That's bait 🤣 😂 😒

[summer cove]

also complaining about cheaters is pretty silly, i have like 900 some hours and i think maybe 2 rangers have been cheating but again i could just be bad or them good, if u claim walls just get a better headset i promise if u just sit still for 5 seconds off spawn you will hear someone

[vale frigate]

i have 3500 hours and i could dm you picks i have banned almost 200 people dont be fooled there are cheaters in every other game bro

[summer cove]

bro if you have 3500 hours why are u even suggesting an easier access to pvp, have you not had enough?!

[vale frigate]

your just to clueless to the scamming cheaters hahaha

[median holly]

Count me in I'm almost in 1k hour and i think i found like 3 hackers, but I play on SA the pool is smaller and meaning less hackers

[south plank]

Taverncon look it up. why is it there? The game shady and so are the bots

[summer cove]

u got the pic of your bans?

[vale frigate]

you know how many friends i had try the game and quit before getting a good kit or a good fight in... the game isnt new player friendly, they arent bad either were talking asendent in valorant like they have skill but the game is just not worth learning with these modes right now

[summer cove]

download grim vault

[vale frigate]

yes send dm i got you

[summer cove]

takes time to learn like any game, sounds like an issue on their part to not want to be better, if you cant suffer loss why should you think you can win

[south plank]

For what? Games uninstalled I'm here to warn people of taverncon.... what o sit and why is ot still running, that's it, why won't the devs address that. It's like these bots are on here just to change the discourse

[summer cove]

grim vault will over run it trust, also idc as long as they arent taking my info lol

[median holly]

This enters why the game is in a bad spot, like I know the mods hands are tied, the fault lies in SDF not wanting the discord to be a better place

[clear pendant]

What is sdf cooking?

[cosmic swan]

I don't know but it smell bad, and it look like shit

[median holly]

Why the hell is there a maniac dude talking for more than one hour about the game launcher being some kind of shady malware without getting banned, the dude crossed the line way before logging in his alt to say the same thing

[tacit anvil]

graysun being graysun

[nocturne gulch]

What is th best way yo learn pvp and also what's the best way to get and build a kit?

[lapis turret]

has the game gotten good again yet?

[median holly]

Next week brother

[graceful storm]

Nah but the drama goes crazy

[median holly]

Notlikethis drama is such a teenager school drama that i just can't, but people do like some drama

[olive laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-my-friends-gif-14221187348091485725

[tacit anvil]

can i only be in common dungeons when im a f2p?

[median holly]

I don't think graysun is at fault, the discord being very very very very tame with moderation comes from SDF himself we don't know why

[median holly]

Yes, it's a free demo, the game itself you have to buy to play it

[tacit anvil]

they need to list it as one

[graceful storm]

That has its own drama kid

[median holly]

Yes, it has been a complaint for some time

[hardy stump]

you lost me at "battle royale"

[tacit anvil]

chatgpt?

ai checked it yep

[nocturne gulch]

What is the best way to learn pvp and also what's the best way to get and build a kit?

[worldly wedge]

W Ai-works

[south plank]

Same old bots lol I'm back but ill be back later 😆

[lyric creek]

its to give you a taste of the game and give you an inspiration to buy the full version :p

[wicked stump]

so i love that they buffed the loot in arena but i need to turn off chat so i dont have to listen to all these 'toxic' teammates 😄

[graceful storm]

Thats crazy the semi wipe for this game and the midnight walkers playtest are on the same day

[sonic maple]

many games have anti cheat that doesnt uninstall when you uninstall the game...

[south plank]

Like another person mentioned they haven't played in 6 months and it was still running in the background. Like why? Why can't they address that? Its like they depend on that more than anything g else cuz the game is free to play and anyone that wants to play this game will have it running into he background indefinitely.

[sonic maple]

right? why do many games do this? I think its cuz the anti cheat is third party or something

[south plank]

And what funnier is that these bots tried to ban me for multiple accounts when I'm 1 person. I just got a warning for insulting people and for trying to stir things up about their anti cheat... if it's not a problem then address it here not just me in some private msg.

[narrow oar]

how come i can't bring gold purses into high roller

[main garden]

cvause they are overpowered

[gray rivet]

u ever been smacked over the head by a gold purse? shits rough

[vale frigate]

Why is every one mad at my battle royal prompt?? Like I think promt everything and really believe pre-made kits Battle royal would help new players and add so much content....

[graceful storm]

I think once this drama happened most of the ppl who left were honest players and now the hackers are more noticable, ive been getting hella ban notifications

[minor pine]

barb and barber is so fun

[lucid solstice]

your game sucks

[void kestrel]

where tf is the blood bridge?

[narrow oar]

doesn't longsword beat barb?

[wide canopy]

If they hit it, sure i suppose, if they dont hit it, no not really

[arctic laurel]

You can see what it looks like on this website, go inferno and hope it spawns - https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/Inferno-02-N

[narrow oar]

its kind of hard not to hit it tho right?

[delicate steppe]

Na, what weapon u using?

[narrow oar]

Bardiche

[wide canopy]

Morningstars do well against longswords, so do most stab pattern weapons, also you dont have to hit their heads every time.

[warm warren]

morning stars do well against longsword? lol whos gonna say something

[delicate steppe]

Careful for your first and third swing.. go for head first and feet third

[wide canopy]

not my fault you dont know how to use it.

[narrow oar]

so i miss the first swing and try to hit with the second, that makes sense

[warm warren]

why are you so defensive

[delicate steppe]

If you have to yea just whiff the first one

[wide canopy]

Cause you are actin kinda high and mighty when you dont really know what you are talking about

[delicate steppe]

If they're just sitting trying to parry can be worth it to whiff the first one then poke their body/feet

[warm warren]

aren't you acting high and mighty right now?

[wide canopy]

I wasnt the one who went "lol whos gonna say something"

[delicate steppe]

Na Jessica is just responding to homie who's asking for help then you come in like LOL MSTAR VS LSWOED!?

[warm warren]

keep using your morning star against a longsword XD

[wide canopy]

I sure will

[delicate steppe]

Games cooked community brain rot gg.
MSTAR slams heads

[warm warren]

100 hour f2p andy

[wide canopy]

Dude has obviously never encountered someone who knows how to use a mstar

[main bison]

what about a dude who knows how to longsword parry

[empty edge]

anyone experienced DDOS rn ingame?

[lyric creek]

i normally get riposted cause for some damn reason I look at them and my brain auto locks onto their hand and I'm like yuh know it sure would hurt to get your fingers morning star smashed, then next thing I know boom i get repost combo killed gg

[warm warren]

^

[delicate steppe]

Why l sword riostes off hands is beyond me

[wide canopy]

Thats more of a you issue than the mstars honestly

[lyric creek]

nah mstars cause if i warhammer i'm like here you go and it misses the sword and their hand and side skull bashes them

[wide canopy]

You choose where and how to swing, the mstar just has a feature about it that lets it get away with easy damage

You know you dont HAVE to hit the head right?

[warm warren]

you don't understand xD

[wide canopy]

just take advantage of a fighter/sorc/warlock focusing their attention on expecting a headshot

[uncut cove]

Mstar is practically impossible to parry if the person wielding it knows what they're doing

Longsword in general just isn't good
Morningstar is one of the best weapons in the game

[heavy idol]

Does anyone have a good build for complete noobs?

[wide canopy]

Its a great weapon against most weapons, and newer players, but a good mstar user can deal free damage easily vs ls

[queen solar]

anyone been having gold dissapear

[uncut cove]

Basically every weapon can to be fair, but morningstar also has inherent jank that plays in its favour

[inner hazel]

its good if blocking worked

[wide canopy]

And it needs that jank because classes like cleric only has swing pattern weapons

[lyric creek]

games a huge preference of playstyle honestly, use pve mode and practice there with no pvp risk then once you get the hang of the monsters move into norms and do pvp where they arent over geared
The more you play 1 class the more you learn what its weak against, then you get a hang of the whole combat triangle nonsense.

[heavy idol]

i see, i can try that i suppose i just notice i get absolutely dumpstered in fights and dont really know how to do about pvp

[lyric creek]

i have absolutely nothing going on in my life right now, you can invite me and i'll healer cleric you in pve so you dont have to worry about dying as well as you can practice the spacing and get a hang of the monster swings.

[heavy idol]

when i get around to it i will bring you along

[delicate steppe]

Mans is too busy rn

[heavy idol]

unfortunately smh im doing housework i just popped in on my pc to ask becuase i wanted to get into this game

[lyric creek]

no rush, life > games always good to have a healthy life. Makes enjoying the game easier too. there's a few hurdles that take a ton of practice and most quit before they get over the learning curve.

[heavy idol]

of course man, and yea i hope to not get stonewalled

[median anvil]

pick a class you want to learn and watch a youtube video on the class, they'll explain how to build and some tips, from there you just play with it till you figure out what works for you through trial and error

[heavy idol]

what are some good beginner classes to try out?

[weary ridge]

servers cooked?

[median anvil]

probably barbarian and fighter, but just learn what you like, watch the youtube to figure out how to play it

[heavy idol]

alright, thanks for the advice

[median anvil]

gotta be honest the game really sucks right now, like worst time it's ever been since i've been playing

[untold bronze]

anyone that leaving the game or feeling generous help me with some donations, i cant seem to ever get enough gold for a kit lmao everyone too bis

[heavy idol]

how so? like whats up that made it bad

[lilac ether]

Can of worms cracks open

[median anvil]

they've drestroyed maps with randomization, removed games modes, destroyed questing, game cycle, all kinds of nonsense. It's just fragments of a game right now, no real identity

[heavy idol]

ah i see

[median anvil]

i think everyonev is so burnt out from venting, most are just over it and moving on. IM clearly does not care.

[lyric creek]

meet me in one of the gathering halls ?

[untold bronze]

frankfurt?

my names jazz

[lyric creek]

im in frank, names fathertime

[untold bronze]

im mr rushy

[south plank]

Here to stir the Pot why does their anticheat run after closing the game? Why does it run after uninstalling the game. Look at steam discussion people are also asking but no straight answers. Why @glad thunder does the anticheat run indefinitely?

[untold bronze]

greatest of all time hah

[lyric creek]

😉

[lyric creek]

mm cause you can't uninstall something thats in use, so you have to end the task before you uninstall, its stored in your tempt apps too so you gotta clear it there.

[south plank]

Yes, look ot up with out having dark and darker open. Check your task manager and it's there running.

Yes turn your pc off and reboot and it's still there.

[narrow oar]

how could anyone complain about barbs when wizards exist

[lyric creek]

i can kill wizards, they run out of spells, barbs just kind of eat me enless i run a really specific build ( which i never do )

[south plank]

I have 650 hrs I'm pissed and I've been in here all day telling everyone. And there's a lot of bots that say not to worry aboit it.

Its also hidden under a windows icon in your task manager... like ok

[lyric creek]

I mean... if you reallllly wanna worry about it. Download WireShark and you can see the exact network processes it does, its not something to actually worry about and you'll waste a good week of your life if you don't know what you are doing 😅

[south plank]

I've uninstalled the game and forced stopped the process in task manager. But thx

[narrow oar]

do they tho?

Ranged is absolutely disgusting in this game

[lyric creek]

go to your c:/users/(yournamethingy)/appdata and go to the local low and delete the whole tavern.exe folder after that and it wont appear no more

[opal schooner]

less than 5k people total in game rn... think they can give this game life support? Or should I just move on with my life?

[lyric creek]

pal worlds is down from 2 million to 50,000 go give them life support

[opal schooner]

is that a recommendation for palworld? Youve confused me here tbh

[lyric creek]

saying having 10% of players a week before wipe is fantastic still compared to being down to .4%

[south plank]

I'll give that a look when I get home tnx

[opal schooner]

and yet they have 10x the users DaD does... must be a good game. Ill check it out. Thanks!

[south plank]

I honestly loved this game until I came upon one of these discussions on steam. And sure enough there it was just running in the background under a windows icon... disappointing.

[lyric creek]

its part of the anti-cheat system, it works as a windows process hence the icon.

[gray rivet]

no geared players running castle on the east coast? lol only timmy AP farmers

[clear cedar]

semi wipe in 6-7 days and there will be no content, it's gonna be full ghost town

[opal schooner]

damn lol i just read about this semiwipe it might joever

[narrow oar]

Duh that game is ass

[lyric creek]

pretty much

[clear cedar]

Making a non malware anti-cheat takes coding skills, guess what IM does not have

[narrow oar]

that's why it's stupid to buy into the hype. yeah it might be fun for a little while but all you're doing is supporting shit games

[south plank]

Its definitely shady...

[lyric creek]

why i dont mind the 5k players we got here, we arent here for hype we are the 10% that stayed cause we like the game

[narrow oar]

is 5k even accurate?

[opal schooner]

2951 in dungeon and 3027 in lobby - i was off by a little

[narrow oar]

i'm stuck using the IM launcher because they wouldn't transfer me over to steam. do those numbers include using the original launcher?

[south plank]

Right but after shutting the game down after runinstalling after rebooting it was still there. I had to manually stop ot that's why it's weird. Why do they leave it on?

[opal schooner]

coming straight from in game it counts all logins

[narrow oar]

that does sound pretty dead

[opal schooner]

i queued up last week and couldnt find a game after 10 min of searching. i was trying to judge if it was worth trying again or if itd just be another waste of time

[odd ermine]

yeah they remove the solo and duo...and now looting item its really ussless

[lyric creek]

you're causing yourself panic over not listening to what i said the first time.
You cant uninstall a process that is running
so by uninstalling it while its running it had to skip it to continue the uninstallation

and because its an anticheat process checker it starts on boot so you didnt stop it to remove it again

[wise geyser]

Depends if they take in account Npc players… I’m not sure if the bot acc would show up but definitely sad to see only 5k

[oak topaz]

U can transfer to steam if u opened a ticket and asked support

[odd ermine]

The game is going to die soon.. anyway

[narrow oar]

I did...several times.

[opal schooner]

they might be intimidated by you...because youre so swole 😄

I'll see myself out...

[narrow oar]

They just stopped responding eventually.

[lyric creek]

[hybrid vapor]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/648713/more-spell-variety-please

[clear cedar]

do not open a ticket, they may perma ban you

[narrow oar]

?

[mild sinew]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/648718/improving-dungeon-enjoyment

[clear cedar]

I was kinda being sarcastic, either way i always see people getting their 3 day ban to perma by opening ticket

[narrow oar]

they said they'd do it and then yeah no responses

[sage oak]

They have to make 2 changes to fix the game, not to mention they have a massive community, Its going to be difficult for the game to fully die. They will fix the game its not like they cant see whats happening with the playerbase

[clear cedar]

IM got hard working 19 mods bro, let them rest

[odd ermine]

Yeah i know but they loose so many people right now

[south plank]

Its sounds like you're panicking I'm fine I'm just telling people about it. Also I know what I'm talking about and so do others I see you buddy

[narrow oar]

oh yeah i just left it alone. i stopped playing for a few months when that happened tho

[lime pine]

I'm amazed that theres still 4k players minimum. Thought it's going to drop to 2k after POE new league came out 😄

[lyric creek]

lol how can you say you know what you're talking about when you don't know how the uninstall process works on your pc XD

[clear cedar]

they left water map to last second and now full focused on water map to not make it shit, atleast playable

[clear cedar]

making a non-malware anti cheat takes coding skills and guess what most of IM devs do not have.

[summer cove]

bro whats good ur still on

[lyric creek]

he's in here having a panic scare meltdown over the tavern process cause he doesnt understand what it is and how it works.

[obtuse harness]

Majority of it player base getting tired of the abuse T-T. They have completely boned the game that i know about 3 times and revert it. It gets tireing. They do something good pop gets decent then SDF gets in the kitchen and game starts to die. At this point its the definition of insanity. In all honest players just need a new game to scratch the looter itch. Like I enjoyed the Wild Gates Beta and Cant wait for Arc Raiders to come out. Dark and Darker on life support yet again. If they make some major changes and actually provide good content vs yoyo patches maybe it be worrth popping in again but 1k hours is a good amount of time in a game so i cant complain to much got my money worth

[summer cove]

he had also mentioned it earlier and even if it is true is it that big of a deal 🤷

[lyric creek]

realistically no, like all the information it would have/gather/send is already info that google documents 🤷‍♂️ don't get me started on your router and how it already records everything sent through it even if you go into incognito mode

[summer cove]

thats what im saying, im about to introduce this game to someone when i get home in 5 hours, am i bad, this or rocket league?

[clear cedar]

someone has to die bro

a very specific person has to die

[south plank]

Its the fact it just runs in the background. Close dark and darker and it still runs. Reboot your pc and it still runs. If you don't care that's fine I'm telling the people that will care. Or maybe they're mining bitcoin and that's fine too I guess.

[vocal wren]

Trust the vision bro

[clear cedar]

it shortens pc life a bit

[cunning mauve]

just get a stronger pc trust

[regal pivot]

wait till the semi wipe

[lyric creek]

^ this ... this right here... i'll tell you for the 3rd time now ... ITS AN ANTI CHEAT, it runs to see what process you run at start up as well as monitor what programs you go to start while the games running. ( and i cant keep going into details on said things cause it will teach you about cheating )

[median anvil]

The problem with kernel level anti cheats in general is that not only do they have access to the kernel but can also execute code. It's just a matter of time till one of these god awful things is hacked and everyone is compromised. Hate it.

[vocal wren]

Bro IM can't afford kernel anti cheat lmao

[south plank]

And there it is thank you sir

[summer cove]

when?

[clear cedar]

argument should end here, like how ironmace is half assed at everything, they're security would be too.

[median anvil]

Almost every online game has them now, it's a crime really.

[lyric creek]

we gotta be real here. Most people that plays pcs are already open to hijacking from way simpler methods than even bothering with the kernal route.

[south plank]

Examples?

[lyric creek]

Not here to teach a cyber security class my guy and most of its not needed information.

[regal pivot]

June 26th

[fervent anvil]

teach the damn lesson >:(

[cunning mauve]

I mean when i got my laptop from this dude it had 13k infections, and ik several people who get really bad virueses, breaches. I just dont think alot of people care for it too much. (sorry for my random ass comment on the conversation)

[summer cove]

13k sounds accurate i was the guy

[median anvil]

a lot of ppl are easy targets for phishing, and they go around the internet clicking links without a clue where the point to

[summer cove]

the game is so dead how is this the discussion, they all in the tavern my b

[cunning mauve]

i had to uninstall windows and reinstall it to fix the laptop

[median anvil]

just opening an email with an image in it can download a worm when the ftp server is contacted lol it's crazy

[median anvil]

that's why everyone should just run linux, less viruses are made for it, linux is fun too

[cunning mauve]

well im not exactly the smartest fella in terms of computer anything, so i'd probably just ruin my poor laptop whos already been through enough

[lyric creek]

~cracks knuckles~
Phishing emails, Fake websites and login pages,Malicious attachments or links. Unpatched system exploits,Privilege escalation vulnerabilities,Disabled security features (like Windows Defender), Unsecured Wi-Fi (especially public hotspots),Man-in-the-middle (MITM) attacks, Open ports / exposed services (RDP, FTP, SMB), Weak router configurations, Outdated browsers, PDF readers, Java, Flash, etc. , Vulnerable 3rd-party applications, Poorly secured desktop apps , Cross-site scripting (XSS), No disk encryption. No secure backup system in place, Unsecured webcams and smart home devices, Printers or NAS devices with outdated firmware. Exposed RDP or TeamViewer, Vulnerable VPN clients, Misconfigured remote management tools. . .

[cunning mauve]

so basically everything you do is hackable

[lyric creek]

pretty much, so as i said before freaking out over the tavern just cause its a kernal checking your system for anti-cheats aint much of a big deal at all cause you can wireshark check what its doing and its not doing any packet sending or malicious things.

^ side note thats why peoples phones are actually more vulnerable than pcs cause they are accessable through not only your wifis and being wifi middle manned but people can bluetooth hook right to your phone.

[median anvil]

it has to be sending and recieving packets, thats what kernel level anticheats do

[cursive crane]

dont make a uptdate

[visual magnet]

Kitchen is gone for good? Rip...

[median anvil]

but it's not like Im's anti cheat is the only anticheat running on someone's pc, like i said almost every game now has kernal level anti cheat

[lyric creek]

Kernel-level anti-cheat systems don’t have to send or receive network packets to function. They can operate entirely locally on your machine, by doing things like:
Monitoring running processes
Scanning memory
Hooking system calls
Watching for known cheat signatures
Detecting drivers or DLL injections
These actions can all happen within the kernel space without any internet activity.

[median anvil]

you're really fast with google/chat gpt lol

[lyric creek]

it was easier than typing it

[cursive crane]

kasjaksj the people only response to gpt say ... the people goes to luna and the response yes aksjaskjask

[median holly]

It's so funny watching people discover Task Manager and see running processes for the first time.

[median anvil]

it really doesn't matter they have to at the least receive updates and anyone who could hack one hacks probably millions of computers

[cursive crane]

is funny see how the people prefer bully to other before help xD

[fervent anvil]

ehhhh too many words

[south plank]

Its so funny watching every anti cheat turn off in the task manager except for taverncon.

[cursive crane]

the game dont patch is normal?

[median anvil]

BUT as I said, worrying about tavern is not your only problem almost all online games have kernal level anti cheats, and yes there is an infinite amount of ways to get hacked

[south plank]

I understand but taverncon is the only still there after closing the program not apex not elden ring and I don't know what other game to test.

[cursive crane]

im buy this game in 25 dollar more than 2 years ago and dont have played more than 100 hours :S deception

[jade path]

Someone hook me up with a barb or rogue kit 🥰

[cursive crane]

make dungeons for collect equip for use in arena full lot no mobs only pvp peiple please

and make ctf now now now

[median anvil]

I'm gonna have to check next time i start my computer. I dual boot so I imagine it's not running on linux with game closed. Will check windows. Like other guys said. You'd have to see if anythings being sent or recived using wireshark

[lyric creek]

those games dont use thier own anti cheats they are covered by vac, dnd has vac now too cause its on steam but cause of thier other launcher its an independant program....

[cursive crane]

im dont play to steam or epic im buy original game in the page and dont work the patch

[pallid lion]

whats up with the playercount being so low, has everyone already boycott?

[cursive crane]

im dont play more than 1 month and now download the launcher and dont work for UPDATE WTFFFF

[median anvil]

what is vac?

I know steam games don't all have independent anit cheats but they do use a variety of different anti cheat softwares as far as i know

[south plank]

Hello everyone I'm back from the deps of reddit and my gosh are the ppl of reddit mad. This guy's says the anti cheat is. "It's like a competing antivirus but it runs non-stop. Will even cause stuttering. It scours your hard drives endlessly while you're running the game, overloading your processing power to prove you're not cheating. Watch your CPU temps; mine run on average 2 degrees higher when I start this game compared to running on max settings on any other game, even processing power stuff like BG3."

[cunning mauve]

LOL, only 2 degrees higher? grow up 💀

[south plank]

Yes point and laugh you're doing great. 👍

[high dirge]

Whats the vendor price of Frozen Mallet ?

[median anvil]

Yeah, any running process uses resources, task manager will tell you how much, and also you can just end the process, pretty sure you can even choose an option in there to not let it start on boot. of course youll have to have it running to play the game though. afterwards you can end it. And again, almost every online game has one running durring play

[cunning mauve]

thank you! I do my best ya know?

[median anvil]

also are you sure taverncon, or whatever it's called, isn't just a runaway process? Sometimes you close a program and a process will just keep running like an error, runs in a loop or something

[mystic elm]

4,700.

[high dirge]

Thank you

[mystic elm]

You’re welcome.

[mortal cargo]

anyone got some loot they are about to get rid of before wipe? Trying to get some goods last minute to sell for the religion skin. Havent had much time to play so im grinding

[warm rune]

is anyone else getting ddosed in EU servers?

[high dirge]

U will have 1,5 months after semiwipe to grind more

[mortal cargo]

aw okay sweet

[left solar]

does anyone know if they are doing a end of wipe event?

[oak topaz]

Event? In dad? Xd

[brittle python]

just sell the company

[stable mica]

question: what the fuck happened since i last looked in this hive of scum and villainy

[grave gull]

devs ruined game

[stable mica]

ok but how tho
explain

[narrow oar]

if you ask how you'll be called a bot

[stable mica]

i'm asking because i'm curious for people's opinions, but hey, already found a reddit post
oh well

[clear cedar]

Not if ironmace in charge

[clear cedar]

do some scrolling at tavern chat

[dim marlin]

We should start send our shit to sdf since that’s all he delivers

[clear cedar]

you would be feeding him

[dim marlin]

Fuck the devs for ruining this game hope Kim Jung un makes love to their husbands

[clear cedar]

that's his fetish

[median holly]

did you leave and come back again @clear cedar ?
You love us

[austere jungle]

wow this chat is even more toxic ^^

[clear cedar]

never said i would leave

search if you want

[dense perch]

Everyone is butthurt about the last changes. Dont worry

[austere jungle]

ye idk stop playing is my advise so many fun games out atm and comming 🙂

we have had our fun with this one but noo hope i think ^^

[odd ermine]

I agree the dev just destroy the game with removing duo and solo and Looting is ussless now cuz you can't bring except in HL item

[limpid torrent]

Well I wanna play, but like others in this very chat, we are getting banned w/o explanation. Call me salty, sad, mad. I don't like being called a cheater, even from a bot

[clear cedar]

You have to make alt bro

[fleet surge]

Have you accepted dimo as our lord and savior? Praise be thy name

[limpid torrent]

I'm not competitive. I do not Arena, I do not care if I lose/die in games, but I have made account progress. I have spent money on this account, and time, and wipes. They are cosmetic rewards, but hell, I dont arena/religion since the lack of viable rewards is not incentive. Making is alt is counter-productive to solving the real problem. I get it there's no real solution since no one listens blah blah

[barren ingot]

Your a bot

[unkempt raft]

ur*

[sinful urchin]

plank is cookin

[clear cedar]

man i fell so sorry about your situation, there is two way to fix this: by communicating with graysun (very tiring one) you have to be forced to wake up at 6 am because thats when graysun activate to talk about unban. (Now out of reach one) some kind of lawsuit about them is a high potential or you can fill this: https://www.kca.go.kr/eng/

[winged herald]

yea game is still dog sh1t. play 1 game and all i run into is a move-speed capped warlock in plate armor with an artifact. why would anyone play this game

[clear cedar]

I just typed shit, i was gonna type two page long about siren preggo goblin tribe but discord is not ready for this

[sonic maple]

for what

[winged herald]

dogsh1t imbalanced game. waste of fucking time

[smoky coyote]

when does this shit ahjh game wipe

[limpid torrent]

@zinc sparrow has a pending message from me from 3 days ago. I've asked others when they fill out bug reports to say it's happening to others. Wardens told me to contact Graysun but it was a long shot at best

[frigid sleet]

welcome to dark and darker

[gray rivet]

game crashed and all my settings got wiped lmao love to see it

[limpid torrent]

'without explanation' long answer: we appeal the ban, we get a response from an email address that is clearly a bot, it says 'you violated ToS' and 'game has the answers'. load up game to the word 'cheater'. that's not an explanation to a non-cheater

[plush agate]

is it worth it to start grinding for the skin from pathfinder right now? would i make it?

[elfin island]

So wait... Can you only play trios now? No more solo duo?

[quick flare]

HOW AND THE FUCK CAN YOU QUEUE DOUBLE CLASSES EVEN THOUGH ITS FIXED..... random queue is going to kill the game because of double comps..... FIX THAT SHIT FIRST BEFORE MAKING ONLY TRIOS theres more reasons for your inevitable death of a game and company @glad thunder

[mild sinew]

why would you delete tavernmaster

[terse monolith]

@glad thunder daily reminder you're the Adolf of gaming.

[coral warren]

Why is this game so bad now? @glad thunder

[quick flare]

Because @glad thunder has an underappreciation for optometry

[manic musk]

As a cleric healer i love running dual barb team

[mortal cargo]

Artifacts should be limited to one equipped only

[inland valve]

Don't know how you can handle two giant shirtless individuals at the same time, truly a dank and danker moment

[elfin island]

Wait, they are trying to limit parties to 1 of each class?

[manic musk]

Try me

#dnd-memes-only message

[quick flare]

yeah sure bugs are fun, but not when it isnt intended. They made this change a while back and never implemented it into random queue system. I can foresee the only reason is because of low player pool to begin with

[elfin island]

Yeah queues would be long as hell with exclusive comp

[severe coyote]

Please don't give sdf advice, he dislikes advice.

[lyric creek]

Valve Anti Cheat, its like the steam default thing. Took a power nap so late reply 😅. was using up too much brain power.

[quick flare]

all im saying how you gon talk about visions, but dont go to the eye doctor every year? @glad thunder

[severe coyote]

may 26 - 14,566 players, june 16 - 7, 200 players. Guess when sdf announced "the vision"

even more wild is dark and darkers biggest competitors shut down their game on may 23rd, which should result in dark and darker popularity going up... but nope, what a fumble.

[quick flare]

jay not a poster child cuz he doo doo garbage at everything he touch. he not qualified to talk shit in they eyes.... TAP in

thats why he got told off lmao let someone like kimchi or vincent discuss the same views as jay everyday i promise something is getting changed maybe 3 weeks lateer

they play the game and only listen to people who they think are good. The developers themselves are hot steaming dogwater and make changes compensating their playstyle

not actually improving on the game themselves, so the game is dwindling in playerbase and suffering from poor navigation and a lack of content with meaningful changes.

if it wasnt introduced that the main developer plays the game avidly and evidence blatantly exposed that he buffs the classes he likes or is playing at the moment, we wouldnt be in this mess. @glad thunder wouldnt catch so much heat and hate. also it doesnt help they dont know bout rosetta stone

[lyric creek]

the greatest things i've ever seen was when I was doing not discussable decisions that altered my eye sight.

[bright latch]

Havent played the game in a while Is it as bad as everyone is saying?

[quick flare]

@sdf take a looooooonnnngggg damn vacation, @graysun get some ass @ironmace LOCK TF IN

[lyric creek]

no, same game, new things to do, same game, new monsters to learn to fight, same attacks cause they are all different combinations of old game files. But still new regardless. Same chests same loot piles , different but easier obtainable loot, gearing back ups easier so dyings not as big of a loss.

[lyric creek]

could thank sdf, because ontop of living his daily life, dealing with the courts, managing a company and hiring new workers, he still takes time to work on a game. Most people in life can't even handle daily life without being too stressed. SDF out here doing a ton as one person.

[bright latch]

Doesn't sound to bad, heard they took out solo and duo. Not sure how to feel about it. I played during the first couple test plays and my biggest complaint was having to fight 3 man's constantly. Was very happy when they added duo and solo.

[lyric creek]

there's still solo/duo in HR, norms is squire kit entry only so its more for gearing to go to hr. squire kits arent that balanced anyway so solo/duos were are kind of not needed was overall a good choice imo

[bright latch]

Ok thank you for the info. I'll have to check it out sometime.

[manic walrus]

The bad part is that the leadership has a serious ego problem to the point where they think they know what's best for the game after literally having shown that they really do not
Just take a look at #sdfs-kitchen the lack of reasoning and foresight is outstanding

Its really incredible to see this guys thought process at every step of the way it makes 0 sense and this guy is supposed to be a professional game designer

All in all if you like what's there sure enjoy it but dont expect the devs to hear you out or make obvious changes to the game that you might expect
Instead, expect them to take away aspects that you liked for the sake of following their vision

Some of the best changes to the game were popular suggestions from the playerbase, the worst changes came from sdfs mind, and they decided nah sdf knows what hes doing

[lyric creek]

not sure how you say it lacks reasoning ? the guys trying to make a less pvp focused enjoyment for some people with the slight risk of pvp ? he says right on there that he only meant it to apply the circle to hr2 to force higher geared people into pvp ? that visions solid.

[bright latch]

You have some examples of his ego? Do you mean just not listening to community sounds like the point your trying to make here. I am rl friends with a game designer and that he said that's the hardest thing to do is to express their vision and listen to the community.

[manic walrus]

#sdfs-kitchen

[lyric creek]

we read it my guy, we are asking like what do you mean by it.. Give us examples on how he isn't listening while ignoring it for his vision ?

[manic walrus]

If you like what you see there then great you're in good hands

[gritty cipher]

is there gonna be unique + named items in arena?

[manic walrus]

No because thats not sdfs vision for arena, even though everyone wants it and it was highly successful last wipe

[gritty cipher]

it was last wipe ;(

[manic walrus]

Exactly

[bright latch]

I am sure it makes sense to you since it seems like you are involved with what's going on. Just as an outsider looking in after a while I am trying to understand

[narrow pike]

could u elaborate on what u mean by examples?

[lyric creek]

I mean sdf's got it road mapped out on what he's currently working on and trying to fix to keep the player base happy his communications pretty clear.
He's got pve mode for begginers to play/learn/gear
He's got norms with squire kit trios ( the best way to go about it cause solo norms is a barb/warlock mad house or loot and scoot rogues ) can practice pvping there
He's got hrs now with low cost enterance fees and upped loot that makes playing norms feel like wayyy less of a gain ( gold gain from treasure nows fantastic in hr cause the upped loot chances ) (That you can do solo/duo/trio ( solid W ) )
Then he's got the hr2s he's adding that'll have the pvper i'm geared let me hunt for super loots on other people <~ (how game was intended ) test your skills ontop of your loot/gearing be the gladiator champion walking away with the spoils

[narrow pike]

k

[lyric creek]

the new nightmare addition mobs and mini bosses are like the icing on the cake, you can be geared but if you didnt take the time to learn to fight them in norms and get the old animation attack downs the new ones are a whole new ballpark so you'll die regardless of the gear.

[quartz osprey]

yeah that’s now buddy. come wipe and the majority of the players are gone

[lyric creek]

well no, wipes gonna be a fresh new start cause there was that removal of random modifier thing that this wipes gonna be a test for cause he's trying to bring back the gear balance

[unkempt drift]

Man is chatting breeze all day long

[quartz osprey]

well no, because most people play solo/duo

[frail moss]

there's a roadmap?

[lyric creek]

go to hr then

[cosmic swan]

He's removing solo and duo from HR too

[quartz osprey]

like I said, come wipe that won’t be an option. then what? is losing all the players part of SDF’s vision?

[cunning mauve]

Game WILL die if that happens.

[unkempt drift]

Mall is SDF's best friend

[quartz osprey]

it’s cooked and I see this phd dude glazing sdf harder than anyone i’ve ever seen WHILE all the top streamers are saying the game is taking a turn for the worst.

[lyric creek]

🤷‍♂️ groups are still better and honestly i hope it encourages players to work as a team more.

[unkempt drift]

Mall living in lala land

[lyric creek]

guy doesnt even know i exist.

[frail moss]

afaik there is no roadmap. It's one thing to believe in his 'vision' (yeah right). Its another to outright claim he has a roadmap when he just doesn't.

This has gotta be bait. I guess you got me.

[quartz osprey]

groups being better are your and sdf’s opinion. the only encouragement i’ve seen is team killing

[cunning mauve]

it does not encourage shit besides ranodm teammates who have different objectives

[lyric creek]

my guy we have the LFG channels where you can post exactly what you are looking for teamates to do

[cunning mauve]

My guy not everyone is in the discord.

[lyric creek]

its not a long distance road map he's a chef in the kitchen this is what he's currently cooking and this is what we are trying out to help get a taste for the dish.

[frail moss]

You are totally delusional

[cosmic swan]

I agree but unfortunately game don't work like that anymore. And you can't remove the solo and duo option after 2 whole year when people bought the game for this reason.

Removing solo and duo is typically an exemple of SDF ego, it's one of his obsessions, he talked about removing them over and over again and each time he took a backlash. But no, even if it upset everyone and will make most of the playerbase he need to push it anyway

[quartz osprey]

LOL i’ve heard enough bro

[timber imp]

How do you loot?

[lyric creek]

I can grab my phone and do voice record rather than typing if you'd prefer to just listen as you do your daily life chores ?

[quartz osprey]

hm nah, i’d rather watch paint dry.

[unkempt drift]

If you dont live your life as Malls Most Wanted PhD does, you are living it wrong

[lyric creek]

sounds wonderful, watch a painting solidify into its work of art while being graced by my voice I love it.

[frail moss]

Either he's totally delusional or actually spending his time baiting

[unkempt drift]

Yeah he could be some bored baiter

[timber imp]

Is this rizz

[bright latch]

From an outside perspective that guy talks alot. Get being passionate but it's off putting

[cunning mauve]

We get it, you LOVE sdf. you DESIRE sdf. But this is clearly poorly crafted rage bait or just too insufferable to do anything else.

[cosmic swan]

Except his shortsighted vision isn't very appealing and he don't stop saying "It's going to be better, you just don't 't have the full picture" but he never manage to explain it. The only thing he talked about within the past year each time he tried to explain hus vision is removing attribut, removing solo duo, reducing ttk so people can 1vs3. That's it, nothing more always the same obsessions.

[lyric creek]

havent taken my adhd meds today. Brains going at like 500% speed I love riding the roller coaster for a bit.

[unkempt drift]

yeah explains alot actually

[safe forge]

Remove Marketplace and trading, Self found only, items, merchants, quests will become relevant again, defeat RealWorldTraders teamers and cheaters, everything gets looted and cleared. PERFECT GAME LOOP!

[bright latch]

Fair just stop you aren't making friends here with the way you are talking.

[unkempt drift]

Honestly with socketing being introduced, you could get rid of marketplace and trading if you really wanted

[lyric creek]

Never was 😉

[cunning mauve]

pretty much. it would just put some people ontop for a long time just geardiffing

[safe forge]

Yesir and builds will be so random nothing will be broken or meta

[lyric creek]

^ love this idea, the whole here you have 1-2 slots on your gear to use your gems you get to make your character and the loots easy enough to re-obtain that losing its still a loss but not a big deal.

[vagrant fulcrum]

Especially if the next wipe has 1-2 attribute slots per item at most, HR could easily be SSF

[lyric creek]

^ boom

[vagrant fulcrum]

I see it as lowering the difference between 10 hours and 1 hour of grinding

[safe forge]

Merge High roller and low roller into one map, White skeletons in ruins, red in crypts, nightmare in inferno. condense all the players

[lyric creek]

nightmare kobol shielders still my favorite new hero though ; ; they miss thier swings a ton and come charging at you like a little cardboard box, 10/10 cutest thing i've fought in forever

[slow salmon]

All my friends uninstalled this game after this barbarian buffing update. I'm kinda sad I have no one to play with anymore. II've always played rogue so I don't really care if SDF nerfs them again, but maybe he should consider getting a prescription to mellow out because these game changes are giving me whiplash.

[lyric creek]

Honestly could bring back the pre-game lobbys thing for this so it was a waved time, as the people were going down for the next floor it would toss you into the waits new people in as others were going down yeah ?

[deft depot]

does anyone know if i can migrate to steam after migrating the account from epic games to blacksmith?

[safe forge]

The pre game lobby was awesome, the dummy was there to test your hits, see whos in your game who the BIS kids were, open mic talk sheet and duel everyone.

[lyric creek]

here i gpted it so i didnt type any of it wrong

Generate Migration Code on Blacksmith:
Open Dark and Darker through the Blacksmith launcher.
Navigate to Options > Account.
Click on Generate Migration Code.
Note: The code is valid for 10 minutes.
Submit a Support Ticket:
Visit the Dark and Darker support page.
Select Submit a Ticket.
Choose Account Support.
Provide the following information:
Subject: Steam Account Migration from Blacksmith

Blacksmith Email: [Your Blacksmith email]
Purchase Package: [Standard or Founder's Edition]
Platform to choose: Steam
Steam ID: [Your Steam 64-bit ID]

[deft depot]

oh ok thanks

[vagrant rapids]

yo why isnt there solos in the game anymore besides HR

[narrow pike]

this guy loves typing

[cunning mauve]

because SDF's vision is to lose his playerbase via following his vision of more populated gamesonly because the people on his payroll said so

[vagrant rapids]

taking out solos and duos might have been the worst choice ever made for this game

[patent breach]

Buying this game might have been the greatest mistake ever 😔

[grim fjord]

Oh this ain’t a dark souls server 💀

[gusty sentinel]

when they come out with quivers, knife and franny bags in 10 years hopefully they make them a decent craftable thats not too expensive or cheap.

[grim fjord]

Okay goodbye guys

[narrow pike]

i cant wait for whatever SDF is cooking up its gotta be good!

[lost rain]

Game will barely survive this year let alone 10

[warm meadow]

dead game

[narrow pike]

how?

[cunning mauve]

going from 36k to 5k players is

[warm meadow]

faust is a bot

[frigid sleet]

Great job killing the game , you guys are doing an excellent job... down 21% players from 30 days ago.... Trash fking dog shiiiit dev team. OPEN SOURCE THE GAME SO WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE IT GOOD

[summer cove]

faust write me a poem, nah man hes not a bot he checks out

[warm meadow]

@subtle heart bot

[proven quiver]

how do i even get into the mobile version bruh

getting a bug that says theres a payment processing error, but im just tryna login and try the game for the first time.

[lyric creek]

woah woah pump the breaks on the dev team.
Side note drop some links to your game sourced creations so we can take a look. I'd like to see them. Modders and developer work are always fun to speed read.
21% cause the wipes here soon there's not much left for people to do other than the norms pvp blood bath. All the main players already completed every quest and achieved demi

[proven quiver]

says payment for 100,006,102 could not be processed, what kinda crap is this

[heavy idol]

i love when ppl flame the dev team and go "dead gmae" like bro if the game is dead just move on lol why do u ragebait yourself

[foggy anchor]

because those people are sad and want attention

[heavy idol]

true bro its fr that scene from the boondocks
"Wait a minute... haha... I only engage with things i like!"

[hybrid vapor]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/648713/more-spell-variety-please

[lucid solstice]

YOUR GAME IS SO FUCKINg ASSS THREE BARBS ON ONE TEAM IN AREANA STUPID

[manic musk]

Guess what happens if you run 2 druids and a sorc vs that? Root, root, aoe, root, root, aoe... barbs dont have any way to clear roots.

Your trying to run your same old trio against a counter matchup and expecting to win, thats now how it works. You need to change your compo to vs 3 barbs.

[lucid solstice]

CANT LOAD IN WITH A FULL TEAM AND BE THE SAME CHARACTER

[manic musk]

Of course you can...

[gusty birch]

Omg i though clerics says something like "i go ,this time, to the end", not "Mika Vista Julien" xD😆

[severe quest]

what race is good for wizard? elf?

[timber imp]

dark elf give u +1 will

[vocal vine]

getting put down by 3 barbs lol

[austere jungle]

Talking about race, I always wonderd why the female skins looked so pretty and the boys so ugly lmfao.

[narrow pike]

How am i a bot?

[remote sonnet]

Is there no more solos and Duos I’m just reinstalling

[pale ore]

No. There is in HR currently but only because they couldn't remove it mid season without screwing everyones progress over

[remote sonnet]

This game seems to be doing just as bad as when I left lmao

[pale ore]

It's looking grim

[remote sonnet]

It’s sad first few seasons were heavenly

[amber inlet]

can't connect, servers down, rip 5SK kit, rip game

[pale ore]

same. i just got back in now tho

[plucky peak]

Way worse these days, it’s headed for a dungeon born style death

[severe coyote]

I mean dungeonborn closed its doors on may 23rd and dark and darker's player count actually dropped, which is hilarious in terms of failure

[remote sonnet]

I keep getting paired with two of the same classes back to back usually melee then have to pvp long range players tf is this game now. Forced to play trios but not even good match making

[rustic socket]

none of my teammates are ranked and it says we cant play together casue one rank is above 1799. anyone know how to fix? for arena

[slim aurora]

Have they said anything about doing the artifact arena event ?

[gusty birch]

To be honest i din't expect that the genre would become oversaturated so quickly (or its players) . It seemed to me that this wasn't just some new side of battle royales, but a full-fledged separate branch... But it seems that people just want pvp like in online games but without the grind like in Lineage/Wow.
I mean people either aint ready for a random generation dungeon crawlers with flavour of pvp or maybe not interested..

[lusty finch]

FYI the creep perk is bugged. Doesn't work at all.

[gray rivet]

What’s the problem with it

[glass crow]

this game is dead af, it really used to be a unique concept but they dhit all over the game 4k players the other day lmao

[gusty birch]

It has been just reworked a while ( im quite new so i aint met him and the shadowrunner in old times). So people just hear less noise , still experienced sweat with headphones just keeping walks right into your location no matter how hard you try... and this is disgusting

[gray rivet]

4K players across 5-7 regions and across 19 queues, no wonder I keep running against the same AP farmers 24/7

[manic musk]

AP farmers?

[gray rivet]

Dudes trying to farm points for demigod, running squire into 225 solos

Not 19 queues tho my math was off, it’s 16. Each map has 5 plus arena

[mental oyster]

anyone have the link to the collectors discord i just crafted some really cool demons glees

i think one is perfect

[prime maple]

Daily reminder if you play ranger you’re bad

[scenic night]

I really like the look of the crystal sword and would like to create a build that makes use of it. Any recommendations?

[river oyster]

Blow of corruption warlock could be pretty fun with that, smack em to non existance with magical dmg

[scenic night]

Thank you. I would love to hear any recommendations for parks and gear.

[river oyster]

pmuch build asmuch as you can into tru magical dmg, health and will , run blow of corruption and phantomise and just chase peoples with phantomise and bac on and you disable when on em and smack em, gear specifly cant really think of the top of my head but thats the short of it

[scenic night]

Thank you very much, I'll try it right away.

[astral light]

any millionaires want to help a homie finish the religion rewards

[limpid torrent]

Alright I gave up. 4 ban appeals failed, Wardens can't help and the upper ups do not respond. Y'all can keep your attackspam druids and exploiting sorcs, this non-cheater is going to play smth else. ❤️

[slim gust]

when does this trash as game wipe again anyone know ? the "semi wipe"

[near jasper]

Sorry man 😦

[near jasper]

Isn't it the 26th?

[wide canopy]

It is

[near jasper]

Ok thought so thanks for confirming

[slim gust]

thanks g

[hybrid vapor]

o7 your skills will be missed

[lyric creek]

check out gedonia, its made by a solo developer , he started gedonia 2 this year its only at level 20 of the 50 level climb, but he's put a ton of love/passion into the game. Has a classic old game style play to it.

[ancient summit]

Fr can midnight walkers come out so I don't have to play this game? cmon

[uneven inlet]

when is mini wipe

[storm raft]

Is the game lagging hard af for anyone else for no reason?

[willow sky]

Crashes crashes and crashes con crypt

[open sundial]

i miss gearscore based matchmaking

[tame oxide]

Ew

[open sundial]

and lowkey i dont fw randomized maps

and my biggest gripe?

[dusky gyro]

yup

[storm tartan]

Been playing this game for a while finally confident to build a good kit and go HR with it after practice in arena and I just crashed after hitting a goblin. Literally lost all my gold that was heartbreaking

[desert orchid]

I love this new griefing meta

go play arena and purposefully play in front of people so they kill you on accident then report them so they get banned and cant play 😂

since 1 teamkil is enough for ban you only have to pull it off once

[idle timber]

you suckand will get ip ban

[slow salmon]

Why does elemental bolt 1 shot you?

Don't sorcs have unlimited spell casts and doesnt it come back way too fast for a 1 shot?

Can we talk about the rangers step back ability? Why don't rogues have that ability instead?

[inner marsh]

Been a thing for a while now

[slow salmon]

Why do rogues have such a limited number of skill and weapon combinations but every other class has such diversity?

Why can wizards use full sized crossbows but rogues can only use hand crossbows?

[inner marsh]

The vision.

[slow salmon]

Why do sorcs get longswords?

Do you think these devs ever stop and ask themselves, "Why?" or are they cool with their playerbase just constantly shrinking?

Why can Sorcs summon mobs but wizards dont have any spells for that?

[inner egret]

Hey guys atleast dune isn’t going to kill this game there’s still hope

[sand tartan]

Can’t wait for pride month to finish

[inner egret]

Literally hate speech nice 🙂

[sterile wraith]

@zinc sparrow could we get a new skill for sorc? (not a spell, a skill). Playing a 15 (with merges) or 10 spell sorc is a bit too much for me. I'd like to play a 5 spell sorc please

[shut timber]

get better.

[slow salmon]

Can we get more dynamic abilities and 1 shots for sorc? Having this much that I can do including use a longsword is just way way not enough.

[marsh marten]

what does db mean?

[inner egret]

Death bloom

[slow salmon]

Having unlimited spells, summons, 1 shots, entire fire walls, teleports, longswords.. it's not enough. Can we get more stuff?

[inner egret]

Damn this discord is just rage baiters now lol

[marsh marten]

3db means 3death bloom?

[shut timber]

sorc is one of the highest skill bracket classes to play, if people take the time to master the hardest class they should be rewarded, not punished because the majority cant cut the mustard. unfortunetaly this is the big problem with video games in this day and age, everybody gets a participation trophy

[inner egret]

Yup same with Ranger tbh

You can’t punish the few classes that have to aim ranged projectiles too hard or no one will play them

[slow salmon]

I feel like you're playing a different game than I am.

[inner egret]

It’s the other way around unfortunately

[slow salmon]

I do liek cut the mustard tho. Fun thing i'm gonna start saying.

[inner egret]

I mean look at the name and pfp a clear troll/rage baiter

[shut timber]

yeah ranger is very strong on a player that consistently hits headshots, but its taken years of fps shooters etc to get that type of aim and majority of the casuals who dont want to take the time and eat shit for a couple months dying on the class to learn it properly would rather complain and have it nerfed to the ground

[slow salmon]

None of these classes are difficult to play. They might take some reading and practice, but they're all easy.

[inner egret]

100p and it’s also not a skill that is completely transferable from fps

[inner egret]

They are all easy yet you posted multiple noob/bad player/ skill issue takes ok bud lol

[slow salmon]

Not sure what you mean. None of what I said has anything to do with skill.

[slow salmon]

It seems you've got some reading comprehension to catch up on. That does explain why you've made the comments that you have. I'm sure someone values your opinion, you're just in the wrong chat for it.

[inner egret]

Lmfaoooo

What class do you play ?

[slow salmon]

There you go. Back to basics. Just laugh and smile, pretend you know what's happening.

[inner egret]

I mean that acronym is honestly all you deserved with that response

[slow salmon]

Sure, sure. There ya go.

[uncut cove]

What a nice, friendly discussion going on here ❤️

[slow salmon]

To answer your question though, I play all of the classes.

[inner egret]

Ofc it’s the dark and darker discord ❤️

[slow salmon]

I thought we were being friendly. Personally, I like Cyto. Hasn't used a single naughty word yet.

[inner egret]

So true

[uncut cove]

Can we all agree that this game has gotten worse?

[inner egret]

We would have to be deaf dumb and blind to disagree wdym lol

I just come back to the discord to get a pulse every couple days but this games deader than disco

[marsh marten]

which named is expensive now?

[inner egret]

Prob none of them really lol

The only thing I could see people playing for at this point is to finish demigod and you don’t need any gear to do that
Or just running their best kits until they have no more gear

[merry jay]

FIX THE GAME OR IM UNINSTALLING RIGHT NOW

[limber jolt]

Barb is a nobrain class. Hopefully next season will change things because right now pvp is ridiculous and boring. I waste more time creating equipment and doing PvE, PvP lasts a second and is rare, it's a shitty game.

[inner egret]

Oh no don’t do it

[limber jolt]

Barb main = noob with no hands

[lone spear]

Barb just get stronger the more stats are taken from the game. Barb gonna be op atleast the start in next season until they change all his values back and forth

[inner egret]

It’s weird tho how they are better with less and more stats right lol

[limber jolt]

It's not just the barb, pvp is shit right now. It's all a One shot there is no personal skill and you waste more time making the equipment rather than pvp, it's just a bad pve.

[inner egret]

It’s almost like Barb starts with an unreasonable amount of stats to begin with and can’t be balanced because if it’s too weak then they can’t get to anyone and or win any fight

[lone spear]

Yeah that other guy was in to something, I don’t actually think you know how to read

[brave oriole]

Barbs are better with less stats because it gives their abilities more spike since the additional stata mean more

They are still terrorizing everyone everywhere dont get me wrong but without gear theyre obnoxious

[limber jolt]

And in the end it's a cheaters paradise, if there was more personal skill even cheaters would struggle.

[brave oriole]

Like they out here as standard coming with +15 vig +15 str off the rip its foul

[inner egret]

Cheaters will never struggle lol they are cheating…

[toxic trout]

You are cooked

[lone spear]

There’s a world were they change up the skills and make a tree and that may actually be something good. But taking away stats from the game isn’t gonna help this problem

[inner egret]

Yeah he really is kinda crazy the humans we live amongst

[merry jay]

Then fix the game

[uncut cove]

Even if they make the perfect development decisions, so many have been turned off this game and have had their faith in the developers ruined that I do not think the playercount will get back up significantly ever again

[limber jolt]

No, on darkfall online I also killed cheaters. But in a game where personal skill doesn't count, you die with one hit and you make the equipment with Gold Sellers, then it's impossible.

[brave oriole]

I utilize the ye old +15 +15 and -30% roar to go 1v3 jits in goblin caves and im not even good gang their no gear normala performance is crazy work

[earnest cliff]

Yeah they're exhibiting a scary amount of traits the company they left is known for

[inner egret]

Come on guys be real

What are the chances that this dev team actually fixes this game given the history

The hopium for this title is illogical

[toxic trout]

All classes has balance base stats. It’s their ability that’s somewhat broken its hard to play around. The fact that ironmacr doesn’t know how to buff it nerf their ability is dumb

[uncut cove]

I don't really know a whole lot about Nexon, what do you mean by that?

[lone spear]

I mean you’re not wrong man, wish you were. I’m just saying maybe just maybe. But no I’m one of those people it’s not even installed on my pc I just come in here to check on the community every free days when I’m bored at work. Games actually dead

[uncut cove]

Cheats can help with but cannot fully replace gamesense and intuition gained by actually playing the game fairly and acquiring knowledge from mistakes made

[brave oriole]

Nexon is essentially a corporate ladder with a focus on toxic workplace culture and viciously egregious monetization

[inner egret]

I’m sorry that’s just not the case

You have to be semi or fully professional at most titles to be able to combat a cheater and even then it’s a slim chance you win a 1v1

[earnest cliff]

Them removing benefits they gave to players who bought Hold The Line edition to support them through the legal turmoil. The guy who responded first hit the nail on the head as well

[uncut cove]

I really wish I was wrong too. All of my friends, and me included, have stopped playing this game. I remember the golden age of this game, so hopeful that this game would survive for years to come. And it has, in a way, but not the way I hopeful for. How the mighty have fallen, I suppose

[toxic trout]

The problem with people cheating is that Ironmace don’t ban that one account they funnel all their gear to after they acquire shit ton of gear with cheats… they have logs to check but they refuse to ban their stash account

[topaz vale]

just found a token of honour, do you need it for anythign

[brave oriole]

Put it on my tab, thanks

[lone spear]

Yeah man, it’s pretty sad to be real with you. This game was one of my favorites I’ve ever played. I’m 32 lol

[uncut cove]

I'm not saying that killing a cheater is easy. I'm just explaining the logic behind their statement. If you're skilled enough and the game has enough skill expression, then it is possible to kill cheaters consistently. Most people cheat because they're bad, and because they're compensating for bad gamesense. It's not hard to turn that blade against them, but it really just depends; I'm not saying it's a guarranteed win, it'll be pretty hard to beat a cheater regardless

[limber jolt]

How do you make a game with complex combat like dad and then make it easier than hello kitty online, thanks to senseless classes and dynamics made by incompetent people?

[inner egret]

I’d say for an average player it is literally impossible to kill a cheater in this game specifically

[uncut cove]

Oh, yeah, for an average player I'd agree with you. You have to be pretty skilled

[lone spear]

Depends on the cheats we’re talking about reall

[limber jolt]

Exactly, but in this game it's impossible since some classes are super op and don't require personal skill.

[inner egret]

You can assume I mean the broken ones

[uncut cove]

Dark and Darker, during its peak, was definitely my favourite game of all time. It's just sad what they've done to the dream

[limber jolt]

It would be enough to have longer and skill based fights and the game would be perfect

[inner egret]

My dream already died 2 years ago with the cycle frontier
Every other game is just filler between mtga and league queues but this game got close

[lone spear]

I’ve only seen one cheat ever in this game really and it’s the one where they can hit you from like double or triple normal distance.
If that’s what we’re talking about I’m with you nobody is out game sensing that

[toxic trout]

The game is good. Unfortunate our developer is a thief

[inner egret]

That is exactly what I’m referring to yes

[uncut cove]

The long fights where it's down to the wire are the best

[lone spear]

I think that’s why the game felt so much better back then. Skill expression mattered a lot!

[toxic trout]

Brother u don’t even know how many people cheat

[inner egret]

Exactly

[uncut cove]

The other type of fight I like the most is when waves of teams just keep coming after you consecutively, but it's only really fun if you actually win and kill everyone, and immensely frustrating if you lose

[limber jolt]

In a game where to change spells I have to use a circle and remember the position, you can't put a barbarian who kills you with one hit and runs at 330ms, it slows you down with a club in his hand. Porco dio!

[lone spear]

Brother trust me I know. In these games I’m a firm believer that walls is much more common then the general player thinks. But range hacks I really only seen it a few times

[inner egret]

Walls is such a devastatingly large advantage please don’t downplay it

[lone spear]

Nah bro wizard has been op for the entire life of this game.. play arena at a high level it’s all magic and rangers

[lone spear]

Are you saying this to me? Lol are you trolling me rn?

[inner egret]

Ranged will always dominate melee in any game that has skill shots at the top tier

[limber jolt]

They are all Rangers, rogues and barb

[toxic trout]

I played 3.4K hours of DND and there is always a Chinese guy sitting in the dark looking on the wall… all the gear they acquire is funneled to their stash account and they won’t get banned. Unlike tarkov. Thats why this game is dying also. Impossible to run 500k kit without. 3 Chinese team with esp and other cheats running at your team

[limber jolt]

Newbies in arena use sorcerer because they have no aim and One shots with aoe, ridiculous.

[inner egret]

True asf

[lone spear]

Lmfao what’s your arena ranking my man?

[limber jolt]

2k

[inner egret]

2k kekw

[toxic trout]

Twice now I lost viola kit in trio bcs all these Chinese people ran at us teaming and letting 1 guy from a different team with 7 lads loot us for free

[frigid sleet]

game down 21% last 30 days. it wont last

[brave oriole]

2k is the cesspit of elo hell. Youre seeing placement matchers, inters and elo scrubs galore in every match. U kinda dont learn shit in that enviro

[inner egret]

Ofc not it’s actually over