game-discussion

[arctic laurel]

Ex company these devs used to work for

[woeful wren]

just google nexon-dark n darker and read

[molten ridge]

Let him cook 🙌(and dont remove solos please im sad and lonely)

[carmine lodge]

@zinc sparrow what is so important to you about this test server patch? as far as I can tell you have removed game modes, removed stats on gear, and you have not added a single thing to the game. what do we test? the loot drops that are meaningless? certain classes being insanely overpowered

[tropic flicker]

You don’t see the vision? Close your eyes, imagine you’re playing another game.

[queen steppe]

What happened to the game I love

[arctic laurel]

hahaha lmao. fr though

[edgy mica]

37 day streak of dark and darker holy

[tidal blaze]

THE VISION happened

[hard spoke]

you are testing the return to glory

[loud cobalt]

But the vision!!!!!

[inner hazel]

is the combat at all like chivalry medieval warfare? its been a while since i played it

[queen steppe]

NOT THE VISION

[woeful wren]

Oh god no, its very basic nothing like that.

[dawn coral]

Just make friends. That's the simple answer.

[shell bison]

kinda true xD

[molten ridge]

The removal of solo and duo is dumb but the gear changes might have a meaning 🙌

[inner hazel]

apparently the servers shut down since last i played lol

[short owl]

i didnt chose to play the game to make friend man, this is not a meeting. That's the simple answer.

[queen steppe]

Kind of cringe too

[woeful wren]

Yeah its chivalry 2 now bro

[tidal blaze]

Well... juicy says so.. so you gotta now

[wicked stump]

how to access test servers?

[short owl]

that's so damn stupid if you want my opinion

[worthy cloud]

Bring back solos

[arctic laurel]

Blacksmith launcher

[inner hazel]

I know nothing about 2, is the combat like mordhaus?

[tardy lotus]

did they do a rollback?

[wicked stump]

ty sir i will install it

[short owl]

they push good update to do a full rollback full of things that people hate

[woeful wren]

Ehh less technical than mordhau, its just chivalry 1 but updated. Mordhau is way more...complex?

[tropic flicker]

Damn this is what the devs get when all they wanted was for us to be friends with each other, ungrateful sons of beaches

[arctic laurel]

NP good luck!

[placid ivy]

anyone lose stuff out there stash after this update?

[tardy lotus]

what are you sayng

[north night]

Gg never seen a game dev more blind to their community

[nova oyster]

just launch your game, I went mad too until I saw solos and duo were still here

[tropic flicker]

Have you met EA Sports?

[tidal blaze]

Real. I had friends play this but they moved on to other things.

Or like.. recently.. due to the updates I have had friends stop playing.

Im not about to make friends with some folk on the dark and darker. I can just go play other games with my friends and have a nice time
or... god forbid.. play solos

[arctic laurel]

Ea or Ubisoft like - You forgot about us huh?

[nova oyster]

lol ubisoft is so empty atm bc of the famouse go woke go broke

[short owl]

exactly ^

[sacred ocean]

I don't remember EA pulling the ability to play the game solo from Madden, FIFA, etc

[tropic flicker]

It’s gotten to this point where we gotta bring up EA and Ubisoft to make us feel better about this game

[short owl]

and BY THE WAY removing all random stat on item will KILL the market and that is 1000% sure

[hollow moss]

I hate every person that wanted squire normals back. Literally everyone of you

[north night]

Yea for now, they still have the “vision” to make trios only.. Like how can they not see the HUNDREDS of negative reviews on steam since May 26???

[woeful wren]

you know its messed up when you are speaking well of EA

[modern vessel]

^ true

[sly knoll]

can someone help me here

[dawn coral]

They did back in the 90s and early 2000's when there was no multiplayer ;)

[sacred ocean]

It feels like poison in my mouth but here we are.

[hard spoke]

excellent

[arctic laurel]

Rare norms was so good. I do get we need a bracket to accomodate the timmies though so i do get it.

[woeful wren]

battlefront 2 aparently popping off suddenly

[short owl]

alt f4 the game and start it again till it work

[sly knoll]

it crashes every time

[heavy dome]

These patches are the worst thing to happen to this game.

[inner hazel]

2 2 or 1 2?

[north night]

I LOVE that they're removing random modifiers, it's the most complex system and takes so long to learn. Overcomplicates balance, etc. Just let me play solo.

[paper mist]

Grouping uncommon with artifact is way worse, oh a timmy managed to find a green or blue item and now he must face people with 300hp?

[dawn coral]

2 2 here

[woeful wren]

verify integrity of game cache via steam, reinstall, if all these fail your PC cant run the game.

[short owl]

steam or blacksmith ?

[sly knoll]

epicgames

[hollow moss]

Rare gear IS timmies wtf

[sacred ocean]

Finding matches in sub 10s is wild rn. Game holds up too.

[arctic laurel]

Yeah i agree, there needs to be a middle ground. But they cant afford all the serve ques so. what can you do

[sly knoll]

played it on steam without any issues. my pc can definetly run the game. its something wrong with the epic games version, i cant get past the connecting screen

[tropic flicker]

Next update:
“Dark and Darker isn’t enough to get the attention of our African American communities. So we’ve decided to change the title to Ni..”

[short owl]

game is not available on epic anymore i advise you to create a ticket on the blacksmith site

[teal stirrup]

Bro someone tell sdf to put the cup down

[woeful wren]

Ah there's your issue, you downloaded malware called epic. make sure to delete it

[sacred ocean]

I wanna know who introduced this dude to Lean.

[arctic laurel]

Trust me rare gear is not timmies, timmies are people who dont even know how to press 3 and heal. These guys will get smoked by a min maxer rare player

[paper mist]

Snorting your breakfast for a year straight does things to a man

[sly knoll]

i know epic has a backdoor but its the only way i can play the premium pass with my friend :(

[marble chasm]

@arctic laurel @paper mist If there are only 3 queues (pve, norms, hr), then most games will be filled with timmies, and only occasionally the god-kit players will show up. So on average, you won't be fighting god-kit players with 300 hp

[woeful wren]

Im sorry bro, i wish i could help you.

[main raven]

this has that "people loved Brotherhood, right? So why not put a brotha IN the hood" energy

[sly knoll]

so they can transfer the epic account to a blacksmith account>?

[short owl]

you need to transfer the premium acc on blacksmith (check on their site faq or YT to do it)

[granite cosmos]

Well friends I officially quit. This may be my most toxic and unhealthy addiction

[paper mist]

Not if you drive the timmies away though, that's the entire point

[granite cosmos]

Thank you SDF for helping me quit this addiction

[tidal blaze]

break freeee live a better Lofe

[marble chasm]

@paper mist indeed, but pve is timmy-friendly. I think that's their goal. new player expereince is pve, and the hardcore pvp game is every other queue

[woeful wren]

PVE is removed in playtest

[sly knoll]

ill try, thanks yall

[sacred ocean]

You know what. Fair. I do find I have more time for Gray Zone and soon to be Dune. A blessing in disguise.

[crude saddle]

Did sdf's kitchen caught on fire?

[paper mist]

Didn't they launch test server even without pve mode now?

[toxic sedge]

they said they will remove solo but as I can see we still can play solo in HR, will they remove solo HR too ?

[drifting hinge]

Yes, and no random modifiers

[arctic laurel]

#sdfs-kitchen Its still here.

[marble chasm]

@woeful wren I think they removed it only for testing purpose cause there's nothing to pvp with in that mode

[crude saddle]

my bad

[paper mist]

First they make gem bis and now no random mods, gear excitement in the bin

[surreal dove]

Its gone on the test servers so probably

[sacred ocean]

He left it lookin like Asmons so I wouldn't trust the food.

[woeful wren]

Roach king mentioned

[main raven]

Might as well farm goldpiles for gems lmao

[arctic laurel]

After the ranked season has ended. trios will; be the only available mode

[sacred ocean]

All hail the mighty roach

[inner hazel]

Rat alarm clock mentioned

[short owl]

exactly what i said previously they do good update and then they go back and push something nobody want + something that is worst

[runic vigil]

Thank you SDF for curing my crippling addiction

[lone spear]

Anyone know what time arena starts? I can’t sign in rn

[woeful wren]

Me crafting the most digusting rat rogue build known to man (Gonna get stealth rogue nerfed)

[unkempt drift]

Ahh another day of checking what amazing improvements SDF has implemented to this fantastic game

[final hearth]

Just enjoy the short time this game has left. Sdf is intent on destroying his creation

[main raven]

They literally didn't have squire lobbies, then brought it back, then scrapped it two weeks later, then added it two days later but while removing solo and duo squire modes so you randomly get Rogues that teamkill you immediately

[tidal blaze]

Real

[arctic laurel]

[inner hazel]

im gonna play some total war warhammer, yall have a good one

[sacred ocean]

You would like that wouldn't you Ikit!

[bleak stirrup]

game is hot doodoo right now if they dont fix it they loosing at least 40% of players.

[unkempt drift]

SDF's brother, SDG told me that SDF got paid 6 mil to blow up his game

[granite cosmos]

Finally sober thanks to SDF 🙌🏼

[woeful wren]

Yes yes, play rats good strong rats kin kin, shoot lots of humans stinky. Friendly fire is good yes yes.

[inner hazel]

Skavenblight's greatest! best inventor! yes yes!

[sacred ocean]

Please take a number and an Imperial Witch Hunter will be with you shortly.

[inner hazel]

ikit i sthe lord i have the most time in lol

[edgy mica]

w ragebait

[grizzled citrus]

update after update and we are still gettting the "Server ended abnormally" kick.... wtf are these guys doing!

[woeful wren]

Screams in nuclear devastation

[delicate plume]

sameee jst now

[inner hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/ratling-gun-total-war-warhammer-ratling-guns-skaven-ratmen-gif-19626638

[sacred ocean]

I remember a playthrough in TW2 where I almost folded a keyboard over the endless ambushes

[grizzled citrus]

its crazy man... its been going on for like 4 updates now

[unkempt drift]

Bro SDF said if we keep talking shit, we're gonna get kidnapped

[inner hazel]

Hell

[woeful wren]

They are never ready, for the RATTACK

[sacred ocean]

GD now I've gotta reinstall. Been meaning to run a Chorfs game anyway.

[granite cosmos]

No longer any desire to use (play) since I found f3nt (SDF vision) laced with my sm4ck (dad)

[sacred ocean]

Listen, what if we all just stop playing DaD and start buying Warhammer minis. It's the perfect plan. The plastic crack can fix us.

[granite cosmos]

I can finally get sober (quit DaD) thanks to SDF 🙌🏼

[final hearth]

It's the truth. Not ragebait

[gusty birch]

All i wanna say is that they don't really care about us 😢 HEE HEE

[visual swift]

Guys I got banned for no reason whatsoever!
Do something about it, this is madness.

Steam name: Bright_alexander

[edgy mica]

lmao

[visual swift]

62 hour of ban for “abnormaldetection” ???

[gusty birch]

Madness.... ?
https://tenor.com/view/300-kick-spartan-this-is-sparta-gif-16700529

[inner hazel]

skulltaker is broken

[visual swift]

Is that for real!?!?

[vagrant coyote]

i need to lvl up on test servers you guys are on drugs

[gusty birch]

https://tenor.com/view/stl5-gif-15450185101232660019

[rustic pecan]

Why is everyone over reacting? It’s test server. This is our time to go to test server and rightfully tell sdf this no random mods is not good. Problem solved.

[dusky moon]

starting the game now restarts my computer. verified all my game files. THE VISION????

[tidal blaze]

THE VISION wont be stopped

[carmine lodge]

last time they used the test server for multiclassing and people said it was not a good idea they sent it to the live servers anyways

[sacred ocean]

Corner camping it is then!

[visual swift]

Got banned for 62 hours without any cause!

Fix this please!

Steam name: Bright_Alexander

[rustic pecan]

not this time duh.

[inner hazel]

he gets a bloodhost every time he defeats an enemy eventually

[warped echo]

Bro this part of the vision CAN'T YOU SEE

[north night]

How can I report a player? His name was racial slurs and constantly kept shouting these slurs at me lol. Got it all on shadowplay.

[visual swift]

A part of what?

A vision?

I don’t think they have any!

Not anymore at least….!

[plucky jackal]

SDF's vision

[sacred ocean]

Sounds like when Taurox was rampaging all over.

[gusty birch]

So maybe he was right? Didnt you through maybe its new hotfix ability ? Sounds fair

[rustic pecan]

Where is the sdf kitchen discord channel

[arctic laurel]

Bro the devs already knew all of this and introduced changes to combat it. They revert back to how the game was months ago and expect things to have magically changed. Crazy

[north night]

I think you replied to the wrong person homie. How can I report a player? I left the lobby but I have proof of this guy being an absolute tool. Shouting slurs and has an extremely derogatory name

[tidal blaze]

Channels and roles. Channel tab, Enable it to view it

[mossy wing]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1375433683737116713

[warped echo]

unless he is hacking they won't do anything about it i don;t think.

[rustic pecan]

No random mods really doesn’t help anyone but fighter barb. I think sdf is playing fighter again based

[smoky jetty]

sdfs bathroom

[valid kettle]

This is just sad at this point.

[arctic laurel]

Yeah anyone with half a brain could of figured that witrhout a playtest ahaha hopeless devs

[rare stone]

can you access test server on steam?

[royal pewter]

no, has to be their blacksmith launcher

[rustic pecan]

Dark and Darker classic here we come! Patch 68 we thinking!?

[smoky jetty]

🤣

[drifting hinge]

Everything you loved about Dark and Darker is gone now and in next patch

[arctic laurel]

But its okay because you can play trios and get griefed every 2 games

[rustic pecan]

I only love the halberd and bossing. So it’s still playable for me

[obtuse bison]

Dont give sdf ideas

[whole hearth]

+1

[eternal pawn]

can minibosses in ice caves drop uniques

[ocean plank]

js like how you were dropped on the head? lol jk all love

[arctic laurel]

I never play IC so not sure sorry bud.

[thorny stirrup]

everyday this reality is closer, thanks SDF

[outer oasis]

no

[dire nymph]

bro was so mad he was stalking me LOL

[eternal pawn]

but ruins can?

[outer oasis]

wdym minibosses?

[north night]

I got video proof of him shouting slurs. I just sent in a report, pretty sure he will get banned. His name is also full of slurs lol

[outer oasis]

only bosses drop artifacts

[subtle heart]

"Ruining dark and darker one step at a time"
-sdf, probably

[past spoke]

@eternal pawn any chest or enemy/boss can drop uniques in HR

[plush sky]

U can say wtv u want on audio, that isn't reportable.

[arctic laurel]

Dude have you not seen some peoples names on this game, they are clearly advocates for free speech thats all ill say

[subtle heart]

I have definitely seen some stuff

[north night]

I mean, it asks if they were breaking the rules through their name or through chat or voice chat. So you can break the rules through all 3.

[raw ridge]

almost killed 5 players in 1 game but everysingle 1 ran red.... this game is so bad

[wet barn]

Y do people have red names

[subtle heart]

bad karma

[smoky jetty]

elon musk and sdf would get along

[warped echo]

LOL THE OLD MUSK RAT!!

[subtle heart]

LOL, real.

[smoky jetty]

critic = ban

[plush sky]

Never seen an option for voice when I've reported people for cheating...so that must be new.

[warped echo]

YOU HAVE TOLD THE ACTUAL TRUTH

[north night]

I did it thru discord. In game probably not updated yeah

[smoky jetty]

of course, I always speak the truth and it sometimes hurts

[flat ingot]

Wow crazy changes on the test server, are these major changes cost cutting measures or a new direction for DND?

[smoky jetty]

I wonder what kind of drugs I need to take in order to see sdfs vision, any suggestions? should I start with slight ones such as liqour first?

[tidal blaze]

THE VISION

[unreal jackal]

VISION

[warped echo]

WISION?

[tidal blaze]

THE VISION

[smoky jetty]

maybe sdf need glasses cause his vision fosho blurry

[obtuse bison]

L ISION

[unreal jackal]

THE VISION

[plush sky]

Won't matter anyway, game is dying hard with these sdf changes and once those test server changes go through to live, game is toast. Only the super sweaty needs will be playing and even they will get bored of always playing vs the same 20 people

[latent yew]

people cry use test server then cry when they try changes to the test server makes no sense . just a bunch a doomers

[silver flax]

the changes are horrible

[arctic laurel]

What changes are you talking aboout exactly?

[smoky jetty]

how can you even defend this game atp? you chatgpt, real human being? show Id pls

[tidal blaze]

Say the changes are shit in hope that they arent added

[north night]

I think everything except removing solo/duo is great tbh. fuck random modifiers

[unreal jackal]

lol “show ID please”

[last garden]

Bro im playing the test without random att and is really good! it really feels balanced the items has his own fixed att balance this first and theen maybe randoms att but without them for now it feels really good and skill based

[cloud geode]

how do I get access to TEST SERVER?

[smoky jetty]

how much did the devs pay you?

[arctic laurel]

But dont you understand some classes base stats are inherently better than others

[north night]

This is definitely going to be adjusted yes

[unreal jackal]

Won’t like most of the gear just be the same essentially with a few minor stat changes?

[plush sky]

Ok so gear will be worthless, there won't be an econ and market will be useless. Still think random mods r a bad idea?

[smoky jetty]

whole lotta bots in this chat as I see

[lunar glade]

Step 1. Consolidate lobbies for better matchmaking
Step 2. Open up test server so step 1 is pointless

[warped echo]

new thelorr video talking about this bullsht update https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r58i-DeYK7o

[proven kraken]

can we roll the last 2-3 updates back please, this game used ot be fun

[silver flax]

step 3. Consolidate lobbies again

[arctic laurel]

We have been here before man. I just see us going round in pointless circles. Very disheartening

[smoky jetty]

If you really out here trying to defend the removal of solos and the trios merge you gotta miss brain cells

[last garden]

but dont you understand that those are stats with random att? balance the game first without them and then maybe put them on the game

[north night]

Nah. If they remove random mods, ofc they have to balance gear so its still relevant without them...

[warped echo]

You can't defend it bro its unjustifiable.

[smoky jetty]

trios was always the most boring pvp in darker, it plays awful, slow and campy ... solo is where the fun is at. But surely some of you gaming dads love to get carried

[arctic laurel]

But thats my whole point. This issue has been discussed before and after almost a year still no changes. Just 0 direction from the devs and its concerning at this point

[proven kraken]

you can compare melee dps and ranged dps when sorcs can get to places in maps no one else can

[abstract yoke]

I say we all just stop playing till they make good changes, if 3k players quit the game is fully dead

[smoky jetty]

thats what I be saying but there seem to be some chatgpt in this chat

[vast ravine]

Rotate mountain and ruins for duos/trios. leave caves for just solos. Make quest non map dependent. You have condensed the Qs to the same we have now, while leaving solos duos and trios in the game. That’s the middle ground they SHOULD have went for.

[tidal blaze]

I mean there is bots that go into caves a mind gold... so highly possible

[smoky jetty]

you know whats hilarious to me? dark and darker mobile has a brighter future than the pc version

[arctic laurel]

There are certainly a few, but majority are agaisnt the removal. I dont see why you wouldnt be agaisnt it but idk

[smoky jetty]

but explain me then, if the majority is against it, why the fuck do we make it trios only then?

[flat ingot]

I'm sure plenty of people would have signed up for the rented tavern lobby they talked about a few months ago, I mean in the playtest trios only didn't feel bad because no one really knew the maps well and your rarely ran into someone really good at the game. If the goal is to get it back in that state I wish there was a bit more changes. I think spawn advantage near key map points would be a good way to balance solo/duo/trio solos are on outter edge, duosslightly better spawn but still a few modules away, and solo gets ideal spawns

[smoky jetty]

somebody finna remaster or rework the game cause it finna die in 2 months from now on ... enjoy ur last solo matches as u can

[full yew]

FINALLY TEST SERVERS ARE BEING USED

[abstract apex]

Game is easier to balance around trios than solos/duos trying to balance a game like this for solos means every class ends up with everything. WoW is a prime example when u try to balance a class/gear game for solo pvp

[plucky depot]

Was there a rollback? my shared stash rolled back and lost 9 gold coin bags

[arctic laurel]

LMAO i dont know. If only theyd communicate better with us like they promised hmmmm

[smoky jetty]

this shiit made me spit my coffee ngl ... how on earth is it easier to balance trios?

[latent yew]

still nonsense dooming

[plush sky]

And again the gear will be worthless because they will all have the same stats, so econ will be destroyed.

[flat ingot]

Yeah but they could have just balanced around trios and left solo or at least duo in the game

[smoky jetty]

I ask you again bot, how much did they pay you?

[runic vigil]

Even WoW is balanced better because the itemization is way better. Sets with specific bonuses, "random" rolls are just greens with +AP, Agi, etc., and so on

[abstract apex]

Far from true. WoW pvp is the most unbalanced shit ever because of gear. it single handly comes down to who has more gear in that game now than skill

[paper mist]

Thats like saying mobas should randomly delete 50 heroes because it's easier to balance lmao, the wow comparison is not any more valid than this 😅

[hard spoke]

@glad thunder with the removal of random modifiers, high roller should also be removed, so we can bring the game back to 1 queue.

[runic vigil]

Heavily disagree

[smoky jetty]

Ironmace you guys suck tbh ... look at blizzard and learn from them, they could always balance classes pretty well in diablo 2,3 and maybe 4

[marble chasm]

@abstract apex @smoky jetty exactly, and also the skill ceiling is higher for trios, so if their vision is a competitive multiplayer game, trios enables that more than solos

[keen bronze]

Nah he’s right

[flat ingot]

Just take out gear all together only for cosemetics and make it a team deathmatch mode

[smoky jetty]

Did you ever play trios? Apprently not ... its the most boring and generic pvp

[paper mist]

Maybe on 1200 rating this is true, its incredibly easy to get competitive pvp gear and the compromise they made is the pvp gear is not so good in pve

[abstract apex]

trios will atleast show a difference between skill/group cordination rather than just W + M1 gear check every single solo person u ran into. I would rather this game be duos or trios only any day than trios only.

[prime maple]

this update is a huge fucking L

[granite cosmos]

No longer any desire to use (play) since I found f3nt (SDF vision) laced with my sm4ck (dad)

[smoky jetty]

solo pvp was where the fun was at

[runic vigil]

In WoW you can easily get the BiS gear from a known source, everyone is in the same shit. Unless you're terrible at PvE in WoW Classic you can easily get BiS pvp sets, unless you're Helen Keller you can get BiS pvp sets in retail. Compared to darker where it's completely random, no tokens for gear, no PvP gear vendor, etc

[round dagger]

why not have test server on steam is really a big wall or just more work than it seems?

[hard spoke]

solo pvp against trios u mean

[heavy lance]

where is solo PvP? have they removed it

[marble chasm]

@smoky jetty objectively, in a trio team battle, (6 total players instead 2), with 4 more players to keep track of, there are more things to track (player positiosn, health, cooldowns), and therefore, requires more mental effort to manage, and hence is more skillful

[abstract apex]

we have market place for pvp gear lol...

[latent yew]

look play test servers give feedback dont just whine without trying it

[smoky jetty]

I love how sdf was shaking in fear that we can find artifacts ... dude had to lower the drop rates real fast so that his realmoneytrading sides sell better

[runic vigil]

So does WoW, they have marketplace and drops from specific places and rewards from pvp and tokens from pve

[burnt shard]

what in the fuckery is going on?

[abstract apex]

Massive difference wow you get gear thats bop and you have to work for. this game gear is accessible to anyone with gold. any espically with the money traders not even being punished.

[paper mist]

He obviously didn't play it enough or he would know how wrong the arguments are in essence

[smoky jetty]

what should I test? A 1v3? like what the fuck do you expect me to witness ... we deadass?

[runic vigil]

Seriously these guys prob played classic rerelease and got camped in STV

[drifting hinge]

I play test now, it feels good in a way that every is almost same, but I got into this game because I loved the builds and trying different things out, unique players with their own setup, was really fun, so for me it will probably be a no after next patch

[hexed jasper]

https://medal.tv/games/dark-and-darker/clips/knTmZmwcYwQImDJUx?invite=cr-MSxpcFYsMTk4NzU5Mzky

[smoky jetty]

I am antisocial and hate people .. please let my solo space for fuk sake

[narrow helm]

Has the downfall of dark and darker started?

[abstract apex]

Y'know what. i'm glad solo/duos is gone and i hope they stay gone for good @glad thunder ty for cooking

[smoky jetty]

they pay you with ingame gold now, huh

[royal pewter]

nice ragebait babyyyyyyy

[smoky jetty]

no way bro is trying to suk dady sdf dry

[hard spoke]

true and real

[abstract apex]

now all these weirdo solo players who can't voice their words instead they opt to Team kill rage review bomb and cry. the game will be better when they're all gone

[wispy lichen]

I cant fill on PvE right now what will i ever do

[smoky jetty]

I only see one weird being in here

[deep willow]

Better and dead

[royal pewter]

hope sdf implements all the coming changes right now i can't WAIT to see the player count jumping off a cliff

[hard spoke]

these people only exist to regurgitate the streamer narrative. this is a case study on how we had a literal ass cancer patient as president

[abstract apex]

you're the type of guy to kill ur teamates in a random normal because you couldn't queue solo and still find a way to make urself a victim. lmfao

[paper mist]

After being proven wrong people run to ragebaiting in the same way people used to say the dumbest shit and try to go "i was trolling xd"

[smoky jetty]

lmfao what, nice ragebait lil bro

[rain zephyr]

I saw update and got excited but I should have known

[burnt shard]

lets start a riot, a riot

[royal pewter]

100% should have known

[unreal obsidian]

in queue for 4 min on hr trio.. great

[abstract apex]

coming from the guy on a alt discord account lol.

[plush sky]

Its all being done on purpose so he can go to court and claim the game is dead, file bankruptcy, and not pay nexon the 6 million

[smoky jetty]

this Datedb guy gets paid by devs apprently or is sdfs alt account

[north night]

Thats not bad? takes me like 20 mins on avg to find a squad lol

[proven kraken]

roll back the last 2-3 updates and start again IMO

[lunar onyx]

yes fuck this guy, literally anyone else can make this game better than what it is now

[unreal obsidian]

a RIOT

[abstract apex]

You solo only players are insufferable and im glad SDF took your gamemode out back and shot it in the head.

[royal pewter]

shit i thought ironmace won the lawsuit? or at least not have to pay?

[warped echo]

He has been at it for days, just don't engage him and ignore him.

[paper mist]

Alt discord account?? Lmao

[wispy lichen]

this is why trio only hr will be dope

[silver flax]

Incorrect

[smoky jetty]

hes straight up stupid ... how on earth can he think those changes are healthy for the game lol

[arctic laurel]

Great video that explains why the game is in the state it is in today if anyone feels like watching - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6aewqMLQsQ.

[north night]

I'm glad the steam page reflects the playerbase accurately. You're the minority homedog. Game will die and forever be tainted if they remove solos

[plush sky]

Ya they "won" but still have to pay out 6 mill so he's purposefully destroying his own game so he doesn't have to pay

[flat ingot]

Has anyone playtested HUNGER or know anyone that has said it's good

[royal pewter]

so i was fed incorrect info and sdf is still getting massively shafted by the lawsuit? if so imma take a few shots tonight and celebrate

[smoky jetty]

Explain me whats different in this version? you act like trios doesnt exist right now .. now you wanna force people that are clearly not interested in trios to play it ... kinda weird to me ngl

[abstract apex]

anti social behaviour lol.

[royal pewter]

hope the company shrugs it off and sdf gets fucked personally, wishful thinking but oh well

[rustic basalt]

At first I didn't like it, but not it's been kinda dun going solo in trio lobbies. I only have 40 hours on the game and I've been fine

[silver flax]

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/dark-and-darker-developer-did-not-commit-copyright-infringement-court-rules-but-has-to-pay-nexon-nearly-usd6-million-anyway/

[abstract apex]

Go play solo fill trio.

[smoky jetty]

like this foolish datedb acts like trios doesnt exist right now, he acts like sdf invented the wheel now

[royal pewter]

tsk tsk tsk smh my head

[north night]

Found the rager baiter

[abstract apex]

Atleast i'm not insufferable and have trio teams to play with unlike some others here

[smoky jetty]

not my fault that you a na west player ... na west and east merge would make ur lobbies alive

[upper onyx]

Am I the only one who actually enjoys solos most?? It’s by far my favorite of the 3 with trios being my least favorite 😭

[north night]

I'll pray for you homie, you seem pretty insufferable to be honest

[smoky jetty]

you are on pair with 99% of the playerbase

[hard spoke]

yea ur the only one

[abstract apex]

Insufferable to solo only complainers.

[plush sky]

honestly i hope they all get screwed, the rest of the dev team r p u s s i e s who just go along with everything sdf does/says even though they know its bad ideas.

[north night]

Yes over 70% of players play solo/duo only

[royal pewter]

yeah fair

[smoky jetty]

trios is dead and lame, hope the game dies atp

[edgy mica]

w ragebait

[abstract apex]

Trios is only dead czu u don't have friends. lol

[paper mist]

Nah you are in the majority, apart from a few contrarians, trios was the least played mode for a reason

[silver flax]

trios is dead with friends lol

[smoky jetty]

I have more friends than you browski, nice try tho

[latent yew]

i agree. seems like they want to add more unique items just with less random stats so builds can happen but just not ultra bis with a .0001 chance to drop hopefully the next few patches to test do that

[cinder dust]

next patch i hope they put solos in and remove trios just to experiment so all the people who are being silly get shat on instead

[abstract apex]

you just unironically used browski lmfao.

[austere wolf]

I love it when randoms steal my items in HR and then i can't even give them bad karma because they do not show up after the game ❤️ Great job iron mace!

[smoky jetty]

there is hella chatgpt in this chat right now ... hilarious to me, yall the reason we get those weird updates

[granite cosmos]

No longer any desire to use (play) since I found f3nt (SDF vision) laced with my sm4ck (dad)

[arctic laurel]

Buffball/ranged trios current meta is horrible.

[rustic basalt]

You're playing Randoms HR and you expect your team not to be buttholes?

[smoky jetty]

nono its so interesting ... so much more interesting than random solo encounters across all classes and builds

[half zenith]

how do we play test server on steam?

[junior wyvern]

Yeah, wonderful game design

[austere wolf]

I expect to have the option do complain after the game which the game is not giving me despite it having the ability to

[arctic laurel]

You cant, blacksmith only

[hard spoke]

[buzzword] is so bad bro its unbelievable

[abstract apex]

just a reminder if u complained about the game having 330~ lobbies you're the reason why solo/duos is being removed entirely so we can have less lobbies 😄

[north night]

to those who are complaining abt random teammates, if you use your mic, and communicate from the start, you can get a good vibe going if they will also talk.

[upper onyx]

I can only play like a handful of duos or trios with my friends before I just don’t enjoy myself and go back to solos.

[verbal gust]

WHAT ABOUT FIXING WARLORD ENTOMB GLITCHES AND F****ING GHOST KING SUCKING YOU WHILE OUT OF THE ROOM

[junior wyvern]

GGS DaD, now im logging for arena only... Its been fun!

[smoky jetty]

you are not him, sit down

[rustic basalt]

Honestly fair

[verbal gust]

GAME DYING HARDER THAN LAST TIME

[smoky jetty]

guys I have another idea ... lets flip it ... remove trios from this game and force everybody into solos

[abstract apex]

keep crying u ruined ur own favorite game about complaining about lobbies

[clear berry]

does test server set all characters to 20 at start? if not it should because i dont want to level a character up to 20 just to test some bs that ill hate

[austere wolf]

The 1 thing this game is really missing is quick chat... It would help so much to just press 2 buttons and tell my teamates there are enemies or whatever...

[smoky jetty]

you the only one crying in here my boi

[abstract apex]

solo players are literally they're own worst enemies. "waaah too many lobbies SDF pls remove lobbies" SDF removes some lobbies "WAAAH SDF REMOVED LOBBIES" Literally u bro

[rustic basalt]

Facts, im surprised it doesn't have a ping system or something like that, just for gear only rn

[austere wolf]

Me having to type "ppl" the moment i see them mid air so I don't have to loose momentum is ridiculous

[smoky jetty]

Did solo players touch you? you seem traumatized

[mystic dagger]

most people that was saying ttat was trio lol. and there is a lot more options to remove lobbies than removing the most played mode of the game

[paper mist]

Bro has ragebaiting on his profile as en excuse for his idiocy, just stop engaging with him

[rustic basalt]

I'm a little inexperienced at the game buy why doesn't you just turn auto fill off? Ive been doing it and have found more solos than I thought

[edgy condor]

KEEP GOBLIN CAVES SOLO EXCLUSIVE

[abstract apex]

It was solo mostly streamers crying but nice try.

[royal pewter]

god damn you still goin? must be exhausting constantly fighting the whole channel lmao

[rustic basalt]

Honestly no one cares about goblin caves once you get some troll hide that sounds like a good idea

[smoky jetty]

nah thanks for the advice, I will stop talking to him because his stupidness causes my brain cells to shrink

[abstract apex]

How's it feel knowing SDF shotgun murdered solo/duos because ya'll complained about it too much?

[calm mauve]

Where?

[austere wolf]

I enjoy playing with people, solo is boring for me. I do it only when I need to farm however, I prefer playing with others as it can be more fun and random at times

[royal pewter]

nah i don't give a shit, poe new league coming in 2 weeks i got plenty fun there, just uninstalled dnd lmao

[abstract apex]

you guys are seriounsly coping if you think this is all SDF's fault when it's just as much the communities fault for being the biggest fucking babies in gaming community lol.

[paper mist]

Yeah it takes a couple of messages to realize because actually dumb people just say anything is ragebaiting as if they can act any other way lmao

[plush sky]

no one was crying about lobbies, there were no dead lobbies, that was a myth that sdf created in his head to justify his reasoning for killing the game kid. rage bait harder though

[hard spoke]

facts

[smoky jetty]

dude argues with the entire chat to force his trios bullshiit on us, funny to me

[latent yew]

i blame thelorr for crying in every video

[calm mauve]

Absolutely.

[rustic basalt]

A lot of it was people not realizing that solo/duo is an added on side gamemode that wasn't going to be balanced properly because the game was built around 3v3s. People kept getting (understandly) mad that their preferred way to play wasn't balanced.

[upper onyx]

You’re like the only guy I see even mentioning SDF dude 😭most of these are valid complaints or concerns

[hard spoke]

dude only gives a shit about his paycheck

[abstract apex]

Go find repoze video and you'll see it.

[warped echo]

Lol did u get farmed by a streamer?

[smoky jetty]

hes not ragebaiting, first I thought so too but apprently hes either paid by devs or chatgpt in person

[calm mauve]

I couldn’t imagine people who argue for LESS content, but here they are, existing

[plush sky]

ok so 1 streamer represents the whole community now? gotcha dude, IQ level: double digit

[abstract apex]

Exactly and yet they go and act like they're the victims of a terrible company when in reality. It's just a terrible community.

[hard spoke]

nah i quit because i had to watch his videos to figure out what the bullshit meta of the day was

[abstract apex]

you guys are proving my point exactly you can't even be human beings anymore and thats saaad.

[edgy condor]

0/10 rage bait

[smoky jetty]

he thinks he gets rewarded by his daddy sdf

[royal pewter]

this the kinda person that do shit like reddit modding work for free, except here he doesn't even get mod privilege lmao

[abstract apex]

Look how upset u are because someone has a opposing view than you guys lmfao.

[teal rivet]

is anyone else taking 5 years to get in a game????

[devout pollen]

I went to bed you were online I wake up youre still online. time to get a job lil bro

[smoky jetty]

As I said we can also flip the situation and make the game exclusively solos only and force duos/trios that never really liked it into solos without asking for their opinion over night .. yall okay with that?

[subtle kite]

im geeked

[mossy wing]

Everyone, please maintain respect in here.

[edgy condor]

LOL

[rustic basalt]

The problem I have it the elitism and the toxicity on both sides. The trios only side should he wanting to help scoop solo players up and show them the ropes and be more understanding. These are people that had their preferred playstyle ripped away, who cares if they are "ruining the game", try and sympathize with these people

[warped echo]

are you geeked up in the dungeon tho

[warm sun]

did you know you can balance the game based on what gamemode you're playing right?

[hard spoke]

u guys dont realize how satisfying it is to make you guys mad since you guys were responsible for ruining all the fun in this game to begin with

[abstract apex]

They can't do that dave. that have to default to insults when someone has a opposing view than them.

[royal pewter]

you are?

[subtle kite]

of course

[main raven]

I work night shift lmao

[frozen sleet]

[warped echo]

Dave this datedb guy is out of control mate you've gotta do something

[warm sun]

you said we're not humans wtf are you talking about

[thin bluff]

🤣

[smoky jetty]

you need to reset the chatgpt then he works again

[hard spoke]

[abstract apex]

I said u can't even act like humans which is entirely true.

[subtle kite]

need a third

[royal pewter]

?

[burnt shard]

the toxicity of our city, our city

[frozen sleet]

[hardy canopy]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1011086062845706282

[warm sun]

"you guys are proving my point exactly you can't even be human beings anymore and thats saaad." thats what you said

[smoky jetty]

remove trios! remove trios! 🤫

[keen bronze]

they needa add a 20v20 mode 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[honest marsh]

Don’t be sensitive 💀

[warped echo]

arc is gonna be sick man

[warm sun]

im not he just said that people arguing with him are only insulting which is hypocritical

[rustic basalt]

They should add a mode where if you die it bricks your PC and SDF comes to your house and shoots you

[royal pewter]

bring 40man pve raid lmao

[turbid pendant]

20v20 or 10v10 would be bonkers

[keen bronze]

Yo lemme be first

[hard spoke]

arc has no solo queue, don't go over there and spread the cry

[royal pewter]

the upcoming shooter extraction game, pretty nice from the tester footages

[rustic basalt]

Behind me, Lil bro

[warped echo]

Yes but arc is a shooter, totally different context

[honest marsh]

Crazy how solos are actually just gna stay gone fr

[paper mist]

Yeah which is why i said dumb people use it as an excuse to act dumb, all it is

[warm sun]

btw does anyone know why doesn't the goblin merchant work?

[paper mist]

No goblin merchant in high roller

[edgy condor]

hahah not if i shoot myself first 🫡

[rustic basalt]

It sucks but it is life I suppose. I enjoyed solos heavily but now I've been doing no fill trios and still having fun

[crisp wren]

And tanks and fighter planes

[woeful bay]

I really wish they would boost the testn server exp wise lol

[keen bronze]

Yoo that’s sick, we already got a gun coming

[rigid rapids]

Marauders

[honest marsh]

Solo queuers made up for 39% of players iirc

[turbid pendant]

at least bring back goblin cave solos, for the hommies that paid money while it was a thing

[subtle oxide]

You join to play solo and end up getting killed by three people because that's how lobbies are now... what a great piece of crap game you made, SDF — congratulations!!

[keen bronze]

We might get gta 6 before a quiver

[edgy condor]

maybe Quiver is the friends we made along the way?

[royal pewter]

just searched it up and it has a recent rating of 22% on steam lmao

[warm sun]

i just came back to the game but i could've sworn you could get back your stuff even in high roller no? is this something new?

[wide wharf]

It is for test server only the most recent patch. Some people need to learn how to read.

[lavish crater]

they have decided that they want to kill their game and it is a shame that they are doing it. Most people hate what SDF is doing. Put terry back in charge of decisions he was more aligned with the community

[abstract umbra]

whats the point of even playing rn lmao, normals are more of a battle royale instead of extraction game

[keen bronze]

I don’t trust terry either that guy barely knows anything about his games when u hear him talk about it in the streams

[rustic basalt]

Normals is now for gold farming and to practice PvP. Sdf want more bepople in hr I guess

[subtle oxide]

koreans are incapable of making good games

[shell root]

phys power and phys dmg bonus is kinda confusing. do you build dmg bonus at a certain strenth threshold?

[abstract apex]

damn you haven't played HR then. if you think norms is a BR HR is fosure a BR

[heady star]

i felt like gear enchantments are in a good place right now, getting good gear feels rewarding, wearing good gear feels powerful, and the goldsmith makes it easier for casual players to wear good gear. i'd venture to say removing random rolls would be worse for the game than patch 69 primary attribute changes

[sand cape]

Morning folks

[keen bronze]

Real, they’re culture in games are way different than ours

[devout pollen]

you can get farmed by the 330 MS 60pdr kuma's BOC thats been running around in solo HR crypts if you like that

[wide wharf]

Did u uninstall because of the recent patch then? The patch that only affected the test server that no one plays?

[rustic basalt]

As it stands now yeah, if he doesn't have a good replacement for gear mods then gear will have zero function

[abstract umbra]

when i run HR i dont have gear good enough to do anything lol

[paper mist]

If he just wants everyone in HR what is the actual point of just not making HR the default mode , it's just arbitrary difficulty anyway

[lavish crater]

i think getting rid of adventure mode is a huge mistake. If they go through with all these changes then the game is going to die quickly. They need to actually listen to the community once in their lives. its not about their wants anymore.

[hollow moss]

HR is literally either run 20k kits or nothing at all

[devout pollen]

"what is there to do" you just answered your own question. try to build a HR kit

[hard spoke]

exactly

[wide wharf]

You can run full epic in HR and still put up a fight. all depends on how you play as a team. For solo it is possible but harder.

[devout pollen]

as a team ? who plays trio bro ... dead game mode

[main sonnet]

[honest marsh]

Yeah trios was by far the less popular mode

[thin bluff]

SFD SDF SDF SDF

[wide wharf]

Depends on your region. I mostly play duos and even less people there but in SEA there is still plenty of players.

[subtle oxide]

they are collecting data,... lets massive uninstall lol

[warped echo]

Game has been uninstalled since the 23rd, and will continue to stay uninstalled until SOLO/DUOS are brought back.

[arctic laurel]

So never then

[warped echo]

That's a risk i am willing to take yes.

[devout pollen]

they been collecting data for 3 years. in 3 years we got 4 new weapons (or was it 3). 2 new classes and 1 new map. its gg bro

[honest marsh]

Jesus development for this game is slow

[rustic basalt]

If he wants people doing that then just remove normals? He's been removing things he doesn't want people doing anyway. This whole thing feels very artificial

[paper mist]

W standing by your principles

[hard spoke]

this is what happens when you give these people a welfare check, once given cannot easily be taken away

[devout pollen]

its what happens when the lead dev doesnt give more freedom to the actual good coders in the backlines . probably a good chunk of them left

[upbeat haven]

test server patch is so unfathomably shit that no one is going to want to play it, and all the people on there are probably the ones dumb enough to think its ok. if those people can actually muster up positive feedback to fuel sdf im going to lose my mind

[flat juniper]

So how many ppl in test server?

[abstract apex]

Prolly because IM is about to go under and file for bankruptcy.

[wide wharf]

Sitting here and see people just complain all day is depressing ngl.

[devout pollen]

Ive grown fund of it. I enjoy the tears in here. I feed on the sadness

[honest marsh]

Fr these devs gotta start making better decisions

[paper mist]

It's possible to close the discord channel , i did it once!

[idle snow]

Guys i havent played in like 2 months how bad have they fucked up the game im seeing they removed adventure mode

[hard spoke]

its getting better

[heavy anvil]

that is an update on the test server only

[upbeat haven]

or any work because all the reported teamers dont get punishment

[devout pollen]

They dont have 100-150 employees if the devil appeared in front of me I would bet my life on it. Do the math, it doesnt add up... 150 salaries ? yeah right

[honest marsh]

100 to 150 employees is insane for what the game is rn you’d think it’s a team of 15 at most

[wide wharf]

No need to close it. Just do not have to pay attention to it which is 99% of the time.

[paper mist]

Those employee numbers surely has to include anything from sdfs coffee boy to their legal team and the interns cat

[heavy anvil]

Wait 100-150???

[ocean gale]

This test server shit they are doing isn't it. If they push that shit this game is cooked cooked

[plush sky]

they are purposefully putting the game under to claim bankruptcy so they dont g2 pay nexon the 6 million. its the only logical reason behind all of these re tar ded choices the dev team has made.

[devout pollen]

if they actually do have 150 employees and this is the amount of content they produced in 3 years it is BEYOND pathetic. I actually HOPE they were capping otherwise we're cooked

[honest marsh]

It’s sdf’s vision bro

[olive light]

everytime i read patchnotes i want to puke

[thin bluff]

another sdf vision patch another sdf vision patch another sdf vision patch

[daring lichen]

we need Terry vision to save us

[median stream]

Yeah its kinda weird... every time they make a good step forward... they just completely undo the work and choose the worst option on the table, lol

[honest marsh]

“Walking miles with a rucksack is a lot easier than working at a start up game company 😂” - Graysun

[olive light]

nah. what we need is a new game at this point. everybody is fed up with their shit... every streamer complaining about the same thing and they just dont care.

[daring lichen]

what does graysun do

[vast hamlet]

The kitchen is closed!!

[heavy anvil]

I'd imagine a team of less than ten with how little we are getting. I know games with a single developer that get regular updates that are bigger than what we get. I know there is a huge difference between a simpler singleplayer game and a relatively big multiplayer game like this but still.

[honest marsh]

apparently slaves away in a harsh environment all day I guess

[devout pollen]

IronMace is truely on the verge right now. We've all been holding the line, it's not completely over yet, I think they have one chance to redeem this game but the next wipe update will have to be monstrous. They better hit us with monk, skill trees, new maps, new weapons. If they fumble next wipe again I can see myself uninstalling despite having held the line so long...

[dreamy fable]

community management skills of a kid playing pretend with fisherprice megablox toys aka graysun & sdf

[daring lichen]

they need content more than anything I'm so sick of every patch just being flip flopping small numbers and the occasional crazy shit for no reason like removing solo duo and randomly changing swarm and stuff

[shadow sundial]

jesust i cant even go to market place and the game just closes out

[honest marsh]

LMAO

[heavy anvil]

I'm just hoping that the people at ironmace lock in after getting a bit of time to stablish themselves:copium:

[karmic night]

They won’t given their track record I had hope after putting a few hundred hours in now it’s just boring with the devs being extremely stupid best to just wait it out see if the game gets better after another few months or goes under🤷‍♂️ was a great game though

[urban drift]

What an ungrateful gaming community. 🤮 Who wants to play a game with a community like this? Noooobody.

[devout pollen]

I can dream though can't I ? I CAN HOPE CAN I NOT ?

[grand shadow]

What do you guys think about them adding crit chance to the game?

[honest marsh]

Blame the devs for turning it into this 💀 a community like this is MADE LOL

[heady crescent]

Almost every gaming community out there is like this. Welcome to gaming, you must be new around here.

[plush sky]

its already in, its called headshot

[arctic laurel]

There already is = hs multiplier. stupid idea

[paper mist]

Please no , headshots are good enough replacement for crits

[karmic night]

Oh you can dream this was my first dungeon looter I’ve ever played absolutely loved it but as most people say we get 1 step forward and then 3 steps backward😂

[abstract apex]

random crits are fair and balanced.

[dreamy fable]

You do know some people paid to play this shit? like some people paid for the ability to enjoy some of this games features?

[thin bear]

Tf2

[flint fable]

so goldsmith is useless in test realm? no random modifiers on items now

[honest marsh]

Borris can’t seem to get all of that dev dic out of his throat

[visual grail]

should i use crossbow or normal bow as ranger?

[daring lichen]

dont worry skill trees and training coming soon and quivers and backpacks and 3rd skill guys and water map don't worry soontm

[azure matrix]

They said arenas are open permanently but they don't open until tonight 😦

[arctic laurel]

Longbow or surv is meta i think

[devout pollen]

Crit chance, very light life steal, elemental resistances, harder mobs and resistances for said mobs, spell memory for all classes but in the form of ability wheels (why does druid cleric warlock sorc wizard bard have all these options, but rogue fighter barb are W key classes with so little outplay possibilities?)

[wraith wigeon]

It’s actually impressive IM manages to be bad developers with just two employees. Companies like Ubisoft and EA ruin games with hundreds of employees.

[heavy anvil]

If you mean random crits I don't like that. One of the reasons I love this game is how fighting is highly skill based, if they add a random crit it will introduce a luck factor that has in my opinion too big of a role

[abstract apex]

any game with random crits but yeah mostly tf2.

[plush sky]

thats for the test server

[narrow fern]

so how do we get into test server?

[honest marsh]

give a higher crit chance for players with bad gear

[thin bear]

Crocket!
Critical shit!

[wraith wigeon]

Crit hit chance stat would ruin this game. Someone would stack uniques to get 100% critical hit chance.

[mossy vessel]

rip game

[hearty brook]

is there a way to access the test servers or is that still reserved for the hold the line accounts?

[cinder kestrel]

Pve mode didn't even last a full wipe before being removed ?

[devout pollen]

then cap it. make 100percent not possible

[honest marsh]

yeah idk the logic behind that

[arctic laurel]

less ques = more populated servers , less server maintenance costs . thats the reasoning

[wraith wigeon]

So they took the middle class out of the game? Sounds familiar.

[heavy anvil]

Even for the classes you mentioned, they don't really have too much variety. Warlock for example has only a few spells that are actually usable.

[smoky jetty]

just turn off ur pc you been out here ragebaiting since 5 hours ... I feel sorry for you

[random cargo]

sdf should buff artifact droprates even more instead of nerfing

[cinder kestrel]

Why they make it then

[urban drift]

Been this way pretty much since they launched the game. Lol people complaining about game balance constantly, never being satisfied with any update.. It was great the first couple weeks. Then the community fell from grace. Bring back the Playtest community.

[arctic laurel]

Could ask the same question with duos and solos. These devs have no direction

[ocean gale]

SO uh, who else is gonna quit this game when they fully remove Solos/Duos?

[honest marsh]

I wonder why none of the updates are ever satisfying 😂

[abstract apex]

let me keep living rent free in ur head thats healthy for you

[heavy anvil]

Removed on the test server only. The last patch message refers to the test servers only.

[devout pollen]

you know... farmers selling items online spending all day long in there farming without risk might be the reason ... good riddance anyways. "PVE mode" ... how did we even get to that point?

[hearty brook]

is there a way to access the test servers or is that still reserved for the hold the line accounts?

[wraith wigeon]

Based on the numbers, around 69%

[pearl iron]

Hi, I'm having a serious issue — it’s like my character got reset, as if there was a rollback to a few days ago. I literally lost a lot of gold, items, and levels that I had farmed. But strangely, a quest I completed just yesterday is still marked as completed. I haven’t received any ban notice or anything like that, and I’m not on the test server — everything seems normal, except for this rollback. Has this happened to anyone else? Does anyone know what I can do?

[cinder kestrel]

Ohh ty, did they give access to test servers for everyone yet. Or still just hold the line players?

[arctic laurel]

Blacksmith Launcher

[dull patrol]

what do the remove of random modifers mean ? Like is every stat on every item gonna get removed or like just phys dmg and stuff ?

[ocean gale]

Gonna be exciting seeing this game with a 6k daily player count LETS GOOOOOOO. Speed RUN THE LOWEST PLAYER COUNT WE CAN

[calm mauve]

Which allows new players to buy budget kits to take into hr, to die to more experience players who can then pick up that gear and sell it for better kits

And the cycle spin

That whole “adventure mode fucked the economy “. Is some bullshit

Players fucked it

[wraith wigeon]

I found another serious issue with the game. It sucks.

[stray shard]

thank god its trios only

[honest marsh]

lowkey don’t actually have a problem with random modifiers being removed

[heavy anvil]

I think it's still just the hold the line players. But they did say they were working on a solution @hearty brook

[ocean gale]

Least of my worries rn. Fully removing Solos is the pushing point

[devout pollen]

if you think PVE players go HR lmao good joke... maybe 2percent of them might

[abstract apex]

pve mode is a questing W

[nova pumice]

Meaningless change add zero context but delete, start at last patch this game dead already

[sonic path]

I wanted to ask, what does this mean? Are random modifiers the blue attributes?

[honest marsh]

Obviously LOL it was the majority of the playerbase

[wraith wigeon]

Why do people hate on PvE so much?

[urban drift]

Not like this one. Lol I'm in a lot of discord servers, most communities are great. Helldivers 2 got bad for a little while (also ungrateful sweats) but the devs buffed everything and made the game easy to appease. Can't really do that in a PvP game that's clearly very difficult to balance. There will always be meta builds and unfair advantages. No decision will benefit everybody. And the ungrateful ones are always the loudest. This game is a masterpiece but it's likely impossible to perfect. Be happy with what you got and that the devs are still working on the game. You can be unhappy with updates without being rude and ungrateful. What dev team wants to make a game for a community like this?

[calm mauve]

It undermines their 2000 hours played

[smoky jetty]

because they wanna look like the cool kids

[heavy anvil]

It'd make gear pretty pointless. The only real build variety in this game rn is the gear if they remove that then everyone is exactly the same basically.

[sonic path]

Idk I like pve, brain off and farm quests

[hard spoke]

we don't, we hate the people mostly.

[abstract apex]

they better keep PvE mode in the game cuz then there will be actually no way for f2p players to use any gear they find.

[wraith wigeon]

Next update should eliminate PvP.

[devout pollen]

BuT ThAtS WhAt ThE PlAyErS WaNt BrO, LeTs AlL StAy In SqUiRe GeAr , FaIr PvP , No GeAr DiF KeK

[calm mauve]

I keep seeing people talk about how it will be good for the balancing.

My brothers, this game is so fucking niche. It’s not gonna be balanced regardless. Look at barb, druid, rogue

Forget about the balancing aside from the extreme cases and focus on adding content not taking it away

[honest marsh]

The issue is how unbalanced it is LOL fuck random modifiers

[static pendant]

the next update should remove two maps so that we can reduce the queues even further

you know what just remove all 3 and that will make them even faster

[plush sky]

the thing is since release the classes have been unbalanced. instead of fixing that or even attempting to fix it what do they do? add more classes...its a very riot approach except the difference is riot is actually successfull while ironmace is not.

[smoky jetty]

finally chatgpt got updated with logic

[bitter citrus]

Well originally people said PvE would take people away from other game modes but then they switched up and said nobody in PvE plays PvP and its the gold farmers ruining it(whatever that means because every person playing the game is a gold farmer)

[abstract apex]

yeah this games been long overdo for removing PvP alltogether and just focus on pve side of the game.

[dense perch]

Entering the dungeon queue should cost a dollar now. Pls SDF, we need more shitty changes

[mortal frigate]

hey, i wanna play in test servers, they arent selling this version anymore?

[wraith wigeon]

Get rid of the three maps in favor of the new water map.

[hard spoke]

nobody gives af about build diversity

[sonic path]

Wait what are random modifiers

[honest marsh]

Dawg I’m sorry but their implementation of random modifiers is genuinely insane to anyone that can think with their brain

[smoky jetty]

sdf was crying in mods dms thus the chating cooldown got enhanced to almost 1 min now ... thats to the point of freedom of speech ... as I said elon musk and sdf have a lot in common

[devout pollen]

whenever you kill a player you can pick up their dollar in form of a crypto coin. bro lets do it im down

[upper onyx]

The rolled modifiers highlighted on items

[calm mauve]

Im not exaggerating when i say i could genuinely see them doing that

[bitter citrus]

I agree, Dark tokens to get into HR, you get 10/day then can buy 10 for 2 red shards. On par af at this point

[ocean gale]

Guys next update I think they should remove Crypts and GC. The only map should be Ice Caverns, since ya know it isn't played enough and I think it should be played more

[mortal frigate]

i think they can do more female bosses, like the female troll, female cyclops and etc

[calm mauve]

Wrong, its what gave us the plethora of diverse builds we see today. If anything we can tone it down. No more than 2 or 3 ie. Rares, epics

[honest marsh]

Maybe even a pregnant goblin

[upper onyx]

The rolled modifiers highlighted on items. (Nothing in white)

[ocean gale]

This dude just trying to see a troll with some tibbies.... let's be honest here

[dense perch]

Yea and you need an additional pass (behind paywall obviously) to exit the dungeon. Without that pass, you lose all found gear

[carmine lodge]

there are 100 people on the test server. lobbies are basically empty with only 2 queues. either no one in the community is aware of how to use the test server, or they don't want to spend the time to get on the test server, because there is nothing really worth testing. no new content added. several things removed. what is the point in testing? you can't even test PvP with no random modifiers, besides maybe 1 or 2 solo fights.

[sonic path]

Wait they’re removing the blue attributes? That’s crazy what is the plan? I feel like that’s what makes the game interesting

[static pendant]

found the freakiest DaD player

[mortal frigate]

ayo goblins mating mid-dungeon would be insane

[surreal crown]

wait they gonna remove random modifiers? so gear will be meaningless again??? DIDNT WE ALREADY HAVE PATCH LIKE THAT????

[bitter citrus]

yah dungeon keys to escape as well, get 10/day then can buy them 2 red shards per 10 stack. would be awesome

[honest marsh]

Of course it gives us diverse builds but it gets to a point. See even you mentioned toning it down LOL. If it were like that it wouldn’t be a problem, but that’s not really how it is rn

[wraith wigeon]

This could bring in a lot of new players

[heavy anvil]

Any game needs variety to be replayable. The dungeons aren't really replayable. The mobs are always the same. The bosses are always the same. The only difference is the order you encounter things in, the build you play, and the builds other players you fight play. If you remove builds then every game is going to be the exact same. If they manage to find a different solution then by all means I'd love to see modifiers go.

[vast kettle]

Finding items with random stats and building good kids the the game loop lmfao if everyone’s the same and there is no point in farming for gear the game will be stale and with them removing duos and solos that’s the final blow the game will simply die

[static pendant]

brother we are not in Prehevil, this is not Fear and Hunger smh

[devout lily]

Remove every map problem solved peak sdf vision

[ocean gale]

Remove solos, Add "Solo Pass" for $20 a season to the shop

[sly knoll]

can i install reshade

[bitter citrus]

but if somebody kills you they can take your exit keys and literally steal your lunch money. a hardcore game should have hardcore stakes

[wraith wigeon]

Y’all ever notice the jiggle physics on Harpies?

[plush sky]

not allowed, he has to kill the game slowly over the course of 2-3 months to show the courts that player count has gone down over that time period and then file for bankruptcy so they wont have to pay nexon the 6 mill.

[heady crescent]

No dev team WANTS to deal with people like this but it doesnt matter this is what what gaming is like now adays. especially anything that has a hardcore player base like this game. Extract games in general are always toxic dont know of a single one that isnt

[honest marsh]

Remove everything that wasn’t sdf’s vision

[urban drift]

Depends on your definition of success. They've made bank on this game already. Also, every update has had balance changes, tf you talkin about. But every time there's a balance change, often addressing sh** people were complaining about, people still lose their F-ing minds. 🤷‍♂️ I just enjoy it. If the meta changes, I adjust. But w/e. I'm just a filthy casual.

[mortal frigate]

too curious to know how u find that

[static pendant]

no, we are now going to kill you with hammers at the mere suggestion, prepare yourself

also usually I can only notice how fucking annoying harpies are in the moment I see them after they aggro on

[hard spoke]

no place in a first person game. in the end it basically just hurts you even more if you suck at first person games because it gives the people who are already good double the advantage

[vale plank]

so in the test server solo's is just gone and they remove random modifiers what is the point of playing anymore?

[carmine lodge]

yes and people found looting very unfun in patch 69. even SDF said he didnt find looting fun, the game got review bombed like hell.. now they are back for round 2

[calm mauve]

Everyone else: return solo queues, balance the game, add content

Gustavo: …..put some tiggle bitties on trolls

[surreal crown]

All this game needed was to remove True phys/magic damage so people would use armor/magic pene more, remove auction for items and we would have peak dungeon crawling experience

seriously begining of this season when we couldnt buy from auction was most fun I ever had, gear i found had meaning

[honest marsh]

No community wants devs like this but here we are 😭

[plush sky]

no they havent, they are in the negative dude. dont forget that 6 million to pay nexon. any profit they would have had is already gone from that, hence why they are killing this game so they dont have to pay nexon

[wraith wigeon]

Now a female Behemoth in Inferno is where it’s at

[devout lily]

Guys I think what will actually solve this is adding and removing fog or war 15 times

[smoky jetty]

guys next step ... remove trios from the game so we cant join any dungeon

[static pendant]

could you ever change to third person in this game? Before?

[meager forge]

What is random modifiers?

[ocean gale]

This game about to not have a community with this direction

[kind oriole]

We need a better ARENA with no gear-based, but ability-based system

[pulsar ocean]

Adventure Mode/PvE was a massive flop because it was implemented with little to no care to increase player numbers and just to have something new for the wipe. If it was a fully designed, separate way to play a completely different version of DaD, then there would be few complaints and it would truly shine as the casual dungeon crawl game mode everyone was expecting.

Imagine if instead of it being a full lobby - on maps designed for PvP - with loot that was worth absolutely nothing, it was a single trio - linear progression cavern with enemies that got harder until a subboss to unlock even harder enemies until a final boss to unlock a boss room that had loot worth the effort you put in, and was fair for PvP due to the true difficulty of it.

[vale plank]

nah just make it a 5man game

[dense perch]

No, I need a female skeleton wizard who tells me how to properly use doors as a barb

[urban drift]

Fair enough. This is the only extraction gaming community (that has launched) that I'm a part of. Pretty stoked about some others that haven't released and folks are fine in there.

[quaint pasture]

This

[honest marsh]

If you get a ring that boosts your vigor but there’s blue text that says “+43 luck” that’s a random modifier

[hard spoke]

no

[calm mauve]

I only said that to have a meet in the middle option. I think they are fine as is. Someone with a 500k -> 1m kit SHOULD wipe a lobby. Thats what makes the concept if this game great

[tulip pine]

I encourage yall to stop supporting these devs FR , L patchs

[sly knoll]

its bannable right?

[bitter citrus]

lol at a conservative 50k/per year with "150" employees they have spent over 20 million on payroll alone. add in 6 mill to pay nexon. they havent made bank buddy unless that is an abbreviation for bankruptcy

[static pendant]

I probably just got confused after seeing the spectate menu

[wraith wigeon]

Whip instead of a long sword

[meager forge]

So random modifiers being removed is the removal of the stats in blue?

[mortal frigate]

maybe if they add some features like capture a mob, turns into a half pokemon game would be good, like a goblin pet or something

[ocean gale]

I'm like 70% sure they are just removing all of this content to remove servers, and to cut server costs. There is no way they are that stupid to think removing content is "fixing the game", they are just trying to financially support this game, by killing the playerbase and their own income

[sonic path]

So, they’re removing random modifiers… are they giving items more static attributes to compensate? I feel like gear will just all around suck otherwise

[plush sky]

community used to be good when the devs actually cared man, you obviously didnt play on the play tests and when it was first released in official EA. Its the poor decisions on the devs part that has led the community to be in this state constantly since they just keep destroying their own game and refuse to listen to anyone but SDF.

[gusty birch]

Its 2 skeleton champs more and the pendalt and im gonna get new chest page , but wow - recently even blue lobbies where taken away and i guess i dont need to collect more quest stuff cause its only white in normals... Are you serious?

[urban drift]

If they wanted to kill this game, they'd abandon it. I'd be tempted if I were a dev.

[honest marsh]

Well they’re anything but fine as is. Especially the movement speed or +all attributes bs you can just yank out of the market

Yes @meager forge that’s what’s in the test branch rn

[dense perch]

And shouting for emotional damage instead of slicing with a sword

[royal pewter]

i'll send you a screenshot, check dm

[meager forge]

Would that mean that all itrms are just the base item

[plush sky]

they cant, they have to do it systematically to prove to the courts the game is dying/dead so they dont have to shell the 6 million to nexon. its all planned out dude. if they just delete the game the courts wont justify them not having to pay nexon

[urban drift]

Also, they've made about $13.2 million off this game.

[honest marsh]

Yea, it’s not the best but I think they’re just removing it until it’s balanced better

[static pendant]

ngl Im pretty indifferent on removing random stat rolls

[bitter citrus]

so 13.2 million - 26 million

[calm mauve]

See but thats an issue with some of the modifiers themselves. Not the system in general.

Ms meta IS gross, true mag/phys, should be removed.

But dont remove them altogether. My god we gotta use out brains more

[ocean gale]

I'm excited for them to push this No Solo HR update mid season, while I am still like 1.5k away from Demi. (been non-interested in playing since updates been bad)

[heavy anvil]

You'd get bored after 3 games if the gear doesn't matter. Again, I dislike random attributes like this but the game would need a different solution. Either they work on making the dungeon more fun or they make an alternate to the random attribute system maybe by making more gear types.

[sonic path]

I haven’t tried it yet but the game seems like it will be pretty boring without them. Not that I like the MS on every item meta but some items are going to be basically unusable without relying on the random stats

[tulip pine]

imagine charging ur players for stash space , seriously hope nexon gets a a fat check

[fading elk]

Wait do I even keep my rank at this point since there removing solos is my demigod gone?

[mental parrot]

games so lost

[hard spoke]

never got bored when this shit wasnt a thing

[ocean gale]

Remove solos, Add "Solo Pass" for $20 a season to the shop . SDF's VISION

[honest marsh]

The system is a great idea but the modifiers aren’t balanced. I don’t think it should be kept fully removed because build diversity is great but it really does get to a point 😭. I think they’re removing it temporarily to work on it? I doubt they’re gna keep everyone in normal gear forever

[blazing agate]

Yep

[meager forge]

Yea makes sense. I dont know if im a fan, but i like the idea of ppl not being able to have 40% action and 330 movespd with 30 str and 200 hp. But also a bit weird that all itrms will just be the base item..whats even the point of loot then

[green phoenix]

This game is cooked.

[plush sky]

love the random BS number you pull out. 13.2 million at a a $30 price tag means 440000 copies sold, they havent even broken 250k copies sold dude. nice try though

[royal pewter]

iirc 6 mil there was another fella who linked me a news article about it but i don't have the message now lol

[fading elk]

Nice 50k AP gone like that

[tulip pine]

@ocean gale ya then he snorts bleach and gives barb +3 to bardiche again

[broken dome]

So on the test servers, can you still gem Epic loot with 3 gems?

[reef solar]

Its already there

[ocean gale]

Could be sick if instead of random rolls we just had a BUNCH of different gear, but that ain't happening they are more likely to REMOVE gear than ADD gear at this point (based of update cycles)

[honest marsh]

you worded it better than I could LOL I agree all the way

[hard spoke]

most people literally just played normals/ white lobbies 0-25 gearscore or whatever the hell because people don't wanna deal with all that crap. they wanna get in and play and not think too hard about the crap they are looting.

[urban drift]

That was the only time I played actually. The last two playtests before the Nexon lawsuit. Then for the first year after launch, fairly religiously. But other games came out, my squad and I have moved on. Hard to get back into this game when any time you check in it's just whining and complaining from the community, any LFG squad you join us full of judgemental sweats, etc...

[versed canyon]

Test serverr feels soulless, the personaliuty of the game is just gone.

[paper mist]

Tbf people buy skins and season passes

[calm mauve]

Remove the dungeons , queue up in lobby for dad themed solitaire. Top score gets 1 SK to spend of a cs go style crate that contains a cosmetic. The crate cost $20 to open.

[fading elk]

Just make everyone squire gear if I can’t gem my shit anymore

[gusty birch]

Are you kiddin boy? They literally said that solo will disappear from HR only from next season. All just mad about Only White Lobbies and deletin normal solos

[tulip pine]

@tawny terrace you are a bell end

[ocean gale]

Here comes a Solos removal supporter

[sonic path]

If pve goes away ima probably stop playing tbh lol

[honest marsh]

Are you kiddin boy? 🤓

[wraith patrol]

Buff Druid

[tulip pine]

@honest marsh bad takes

[grim flax]

Does any one know when the next/last wave of quests drop? Im on an empty quest screen but I do not have half of the merchants done in game achievement wise

[ocean gale]

Lets readd Solos, and remove @gusty birch from the game

[daring epoch]

Quest progress lost for anyone else?

[vital atlas]

the hell they re doing bro

[meager forge]

Solos dissapearing is a pretty fucking huge thing though. Thats my only way to play this game.

[mossy wing]

Everyone, please follow the rules, while it is an emotional time and everyone is very passionate, there is no need to hurt or insult others in the discord.

[plush sky]

spam is not allowed in this channel

[gusty birch]

https://tenor.com/view/law-police-judge-cop-dredd-gif-8606130

[autumn seal]

So dark and darker hates their game. Got it

[thin bluff]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[royal pewter]

what a good guy!

[wraith patrol]

Buff Druid

[heavy anvil]

By all means, I mostly play squire lobbies. Still, my point stands, I don't want every game to feel the same. The random modifiers aren't a good solution by any means, but they do something at least.

[honest marsh]

It was the only reason for a lot of people to play the game LOL. 40% of the playerbase even 💀 devs can’t just add a mode for two years, garner a playerbase for that mode and then just remove it without warning cuz they couldn’t balance it

[ocean gale]

Each update is going to backtrack from here on out. Next we are losing Arena, Then Ice Caverns, then GC, then we are reverting Crypts to its OG Alpha version! SDF's VISION

[grim flax]

BASED

[tranquil swift]

Buff bard

[meager forge]

Yeah it mkes me a bit sad that theyre removing it. I wont be able to put on good gear and have fun if i have to play with 2 randoms. And in trio which is a completely different kind of pvp for me.

[tulip pine]

@ocean gale I hope nexon gets sdfs hard earned money

[gusty birch]

I know it must be not your problem , but i see no problem with it and just sad cause only white lobbies. Solo gigachad hamsters taking Cleric+Barb and preteamin in every second "solo" dont bother me

[hard spoke]

would be great

[urban drift]

Just going off what Google says my guy. There are in-game transactions.

[bitter citrus]

you could just play solos... oh wait, nevermind

[devout pollen]

So what are we testing in the test servers right now exactly ?

[ocean gale]

Just wait for the Trios teaming BUDDY

[junior wyvern]

TBH i wouldnt mind that... bring back the real hardcore DaD

[meager forge]

Never met a preteamed cleric barb in solos. Meet lots of 1v1s.

[urban drift]

Just going off what Google says my guy. There are in-game transactions.

[honest marsh]

Isn’t it crazy how TK is a thing in this game

[gusty birch]

Actually you cant call it "solo" , when you meetin the same party of 2 premade rogues that hunt you down over and over , at those nasty wolf pelt quest at season start. I know many people like play this game as OP class and imagine that they play well in competitive play.
And the trios bein not always hostile really was a take of fresh air at the end of previous season

[royal pewter]

testing how much the new mechanic of removing equipment modifiers sucks

[bitter citrus]

13.2 million sounds right, they claim like 20some million. either way, with a staff the size of what they claim, all that is completely gone

[devout pollen]

??

[ocean gale]

Only reason trios was not hostile was because like you said, end of season. Most of the playerbase quits playing near the end of the season, it was at like a 5-6k peak at the end of last season compared to the average 15k

[plush sky]

i agree, google does say that, due to the valuation of the company from the court stuff. Yes there are in game transactions, however this game has not sold more than 250k copies between steam and blacksmith. If so, then "why all the dead lobbies", (even though ive never encountered one) the game has 20k people playing at most on average, which AT most they sold 200k copies....again at a price tag of $30 bucks, do the math

[trim quail]

This game sucks so bad now

[honest marsh]

20k people nowadays? Hell nah

[tulip pine]

also i notice more teamkilling when the game has L patches why is that

[abstract apex]

imagine getting emotional over a video game.

[ocean gale]

I'm fucking crying right now dude, don't mock me

[urban drift]

I play with my squad. I tried the LFG here for a while. It was about 50/50 you get a toxic teammate or teammates. We've moved on to other games. Seems there are only ungrateful sweats in here now, cause no new players want to join a community like this. Lol

[plush sky]

i was being generous in terms of player count now to prove actual sales didnt exceed 200k

[abstract apex]

I feed off others misery. SDF just gave me a 3 course 5 Star meals in this discord gyatt damn.

[honest marsh]

Naw you ever gotten halfway through a match, beat a boss and try to loot and just get tk’d 😂

[gusty birch]

So i must be very lucky to play this game like 3-4 months, having 800 hours right now and still , i just pointed it out really like 400 hours ago - despite all chaos youll never be pissed of cause that crap in Trio . 3rd party - here we go, its a common thing. But not those TeamSpeak premade guys i used to see like every 4-6 games

[trim quail]

Theres 15k player. a 20% decrease from last patch

[ocean gale]

My favorite random trios moment, was a dude ran off and died to the boss by himself then screamed at us in Voice Chat that we DIDN"T FOLLOW HIM, even though he said nothing prior. It really makes you appreciate not having to rely on shitters on your team

[low helm]

who cares

[bitter citrus]

i feel it for sure. I played solos and literally got ran out by the devs. too many great games this year to worry about whatever chaos is going on in this one

[brave oriole]

Is this channel still mindlessly berserking

[urban drift]

$11.5-23.6M revenue according to Steam stats.

[ocean gale]

We out here trying to Night my Reign tn if ya know what im saying

[trim quail]

who cares? the people who play this game care ..... dipshlt

[plush sky]

ithink everyone should just go play claire obscure E 33 and support an actual dev who listens/cares about creating good games for people. Ironmace clearly does not care about their community and the people who play their (what used to be amazing) trash game

[abstract apex]

Be nice to others or we'll have to get dave in here.

[harsh coral]

@brave oriole well it seems like there is nnop point having as many devs as they have rn so jusr scrap the game

[low helm]

is 15k not enough for this game? how much do u feel we need?

[brave oriole]

Why are you @ing me

[static pendant]

Golden Age or Black Swordsman style though?

[urban drift]

And average daily concurrent players rn is about 8.3K

[trim quail]

tell dave to fight me

[vital sable]

i thought they removed solos why is it still in the game and also why is arena not open if they said its open always??????????

[abstract apex]

clears throat @ warden

[bronze anchor]

Test servers

[ocean gale]

They are clearly planning on removing arena

[woeful nimbus]

in the test server

[low helm]

read the notes again pal

[honest marsh]

that’s not the point dawg think with your brain for a second 😭 if player count is decreasing that fast in a single patch there’s an issue

[trim quail]

15k is definitely not enough, especially for people who want more queues. a 20% decrease is embarassing

[tulip pine]

anyone want 10 skull keys ? i seriously dont even want to play after this patch. I rather vendor all my gear than help support 'player in dun' count

[gusty birch]

Okay look it was not that close. Its like 15 k of people still playin. Okay end of season is an execuse , but wow , what are you really need in this game? Complete some quests so you can get white squire gear? Cmon you still can met a Chill person , few days ago stranger just presented a Cockatrice egg to mee while i've bee solo pickpocketin in trio? And you quess what? I have a cockatrice now 😆 I mean he aint present to me 1st aprill egg from market

[meager forge]

Your "ill make some stuff up"-math isnt mathing

[vital sable]

ohhhhh soo only in test server? do i have to download that in steam??

[jovial stag]

me

[exotic sluice]

sure

[low helm]

marvel rivals lost 400k players on steam in a month. would you say theyre having a problem too?

[severe coyote]

High there rturd. Please pole ride bad dev decisions with an actual opinion or at the very least admit you have no substance or opinion.

[calm salmon]

I'd take em lol

[honest marsh]

He doesn’t know what he’s talking about I wouldn’t reply to him no more 😭 it’s like talking to a gorilla using sign language

[plush sky]

They had over 3 million people to begin with, big difference buddy

[meager forge]

I dont understand your english.

[brave oriole]

You're savagely toxic. Blocked!

[ocean gale]

What in the actual fuck are you yapping about to me rn

[smoky jetty]

just remove trios and call it a fix

[low helm]

we dont need more queues. never did never will

[severe coyote]

Would you like to speak to the manager Ken? Move to your safe space

[honest marsh]

Said so much yet nothing at all at the same time 😭😭

[vital sable]

where do i download test server??

[quasi igloo]

I could be wrong, but wasn't the last patch to introduce the no random mods, the first patch to ever get reverted ?

[brave oriole]

So the verdict is in. Mindless berserking. See yall in a few hours

[plush sky]

U don't, it's for people who paid extra for the hold the line version

[ocean gale]

I geneuinely tried to read that message, I don't understand what his POINT was, or what he was even trying to say to me like LEGIT no idea

[trim quail]

yeah wally is a ldiot. Guy doesnt know what hes talking about.

[bitter citrus]

that tough to get into as a newb at this point? I've been thinking about trying on some old rings

[low helm]

I think the game is worse when we dont have ruins solo 24, ruins solo 124, ruins solo hr 224, ruins solo hr uncapped, ruins duo 24, ruins duo 124, ruins duo 224, ruins duo hr uncapped, ruins trios 24, ruins trio 124, ruins trio 224, ruins trio uncapped, goblin caves solo 24, goblin caves solo 124, goblin caves solo 224, goblin caves solo uncapped, duo goblin caves 24, goblincave duo 124, goblin cave duo 224, goblin caves duo uncapped, goblincaves trio 24, goblincaves trio 124, goblin caves trio 224, goblin caves trio uncapped, ice cavern solo 24, ice cavern solo 124, ice cavern solo 224, ice cavern solo uncapped, ice cavern duo 24, ice cavern duo 124, ice cavern duo 224, ice cavern uncapped, trio ice cavern 24, trio ice cavern 124, trio ice cavern 224, trio ice cavern uncapped, pve ruins, pve ice, pve goblin, and arena

[gusty birch]

Okay look you're pushing me about some kind of teaming in a trio, while we talking about me dont bother with solo hamster heaven gone. You literally say "wait for premade in trios" . So if you that high you must be Snoop Dog best friend

[honest marsh]

Wally hit his head on concrete and decided to start having takes

[vital sable]

thats wack i bought the game i should be able to test, always something nowadays with buying special editions

[ocean gale]

Brother with your communication skills I think you are the high one here LMAO

[brave oriole]

I wish they made it

Goblin common solo.

Ice common duos

Ruins common trios and thats it

[trim quail]

yep. at LEAST 20% of the active player base feels that way.

Iron mace should hire you. youd fit right in

[upper forum]

fr preach brotha

[vivid pendant]

read the pinned message, download blacksmith launcher and log in (or make account)

[static pendant]

It was something like this before

[plush sky]

Never had a dead lobby back then cuz we actually had players playing. The dead lobby thing was a myth.

[low helm]

20% want the game to continue to struggle. looks like we are due to drop 20% of the player base and not look back

[ocean gale]

"don't bother me with solo hamster heaven gone". Communication skills of a brick wall man, use fucking words. We have words for a reason

[brave oriole]

This is extremely draconic and overbearingly callous.

[honest marsh]

this guy just does not stop saying dumb things

[trim quail]

the game is absolutely struggling worse now dude. Its simple. Go ride SDF's dlck some more

[gusty birch]

All fucking MMO games have their loot like locked behind Raid Boss while you can get another party jumped on you at any moment. And you guys complainin like "NO WE NEED THIS SOLO" so we can grind bosses at empty lobbies on hong kong servers

[bitter citrus]

bruh game drops 10% of the player base per week. it can't afford to lose 20% at once

[harsh coral]

@trim quail u are fat bud

[plush sky]

There were no dead lobbies, maybe now after these dog decisions the devs have made.

[brave oriole]

Seeing wally here for days repeatedly doubling down and descending into progressively more aggressive forms of "us or them" tribalism will never cease to be savagely funny.

[ocean gale]

Brother you have a narrative in your head that no one has even talked about. No one is saying we need solos for bosses, we need solos because ITS CONTENT. You keep rambling about random shit trying to push your narrative it's yikes dude

[trim quail]

Fat af . Gtfo with your cringe name

[novel hawk]

They removed adventure mode? Bruh this game is cooked

[low helm]

seeing drunk here for 3 days begging for solos back is why i keep coming back

[calm salmon]

Most MMO games aren't pvp, or are you considering all multiplayer games MMOs?

[hard spoke]

the entire point is to get the solos and duos in trios so you aren't ONLY running into trios. thats what always made the game dynamic and not a sweat fest.

[honest marsh]

you alrdy know it’s some white kid by looking at that profile

[brave oriole]

Look! Hes still doing it!!!!

[lilac bluff]

People still play this game?

[plush sky]

Then they should have never introduced solos to begin with, they did, and the majority of the player base loved it.

[last garden]

without random att the games feel fucking amazing

[ocean gale]

Got the adventure mode I didn't ask for, then got it removed. Before we even got a water map or monk that was actually TALKED about

[frosty hazel]

with the way things are going... not for long

[low helm]

look he keeps replying to me daily

[hard spoke]

exactly. never should have happened. just like welfare.

[granite cosmos]

Imagine if we actually got new content instead of SDF destroying the game monthly

[gusty birch]

I mean, in such a situation, the value of the loot becomes uncertain. You see, one person got some improvements after team fights, and for another it's a routine matter with a troll. So he aint risk much. So real value of items - dirt. Maybe they try to change it

[vivid pendant]

do you guys actually read the titles for each section of patch notes?
either way, a test server for a test server is funny

[honest marsh]

people only reply to you to remind you that you’re mentally slow

[brave oriole]

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[plush sky]

Except it did, and it had the biggest playerbase so it was an actual.success. solution? Get rid of it and expect everyone to go to trios? Lol what a stupid idea

[trim quail]

he definitely calls his other white frends his n.....s

[ocean gale]

NGL These are the first messages I have seen from wally and I already hate him

[low helm]

is this you: "I think the game is worse when we dont have ruins solo 24, ruins solo 124, ruins solo hr 224, ruins solo hr uncapped, ruins duo 24, ruins duo 124, ruins duo 224, ruins duo hr uncapped, ruins trios 24, ruins trio 124, ruins trio 224, ruins trio uncapped, goblin caves solo 24, goblin caves solo 124, goblin caves solo 224, goblin caves solo uncapped, duo goblin caves 24, goblincave duo 124, goblin cave duo 224, goblin caves duo uncapped, goblincaves trio 24, goblincaves trio 124, goblin caves trio 224, goblin caves trio uncapped, ice cavern solo 24, ice cavern solo 124, ice cavern solo 224, ice cavern solo uncapped, ice cavern duo 24, ice cavern duo 124, ice cavern duo 224, ice cavern uncapped, trio ice cavern 24, trio ice cavern 124, trio ice cavern 224, trio ice cavern uncapped, pve ruins, pve ice, pve goblin, and arena"

[hard spoke]

nothing about it was a success as the game has gone downhill since.

[charred hull]

after patch 76 game went straight down

[honest summit]

What is this obsession with removing the random modifiers on items? Isn't that like 80% of the core of the game and why people play?

[honest marsh]

💔💔 that’s the state of the world we’re in rn

[silver flax]

people only reply to you to remind you of what that other guy said

[brave oriole]

Hes kinda immature. Its par for the course tho. He's knee deep in tribal identity over a video game on the internet and its crazy work

[trim quail]

i bet these SDF- D riders invested in safemoon too.

[plush sky]

No the game has gone downhill because of stupid decisions the devs had made, solos/duos increased population overall. And funny, they got rid of solo/duo and population is at an all time low. Pretty funny you ignore actual facts

[granite cosmos]

Ppl only remind you of what the guy reply other

[gusty birch]

I'm not the teacher you failed a class with once, I'm not trying to push "my narrative" xD

[honest marsh]

Wally needs to take a hint LOL only just started talking and nobody likes him

[bitter citrus]

most of the nostalgia glazers don't know the difference between causation and correlation. no point in trying to explain it

[brave oriole]

He needs to reset thru door irl bro he needs to escape and drink a potion of refreshment real

[ocean gale]

"I'm not the teacher you failed a class with once, I'm not trying to push "my narrative" xD" bruddah I know you aren't. You NEED a teacher burddah

[trim quail]

yeah wally sucks. F that guy

[low helm]

sdf is cooking. on his way to remove random modifiers is goated

[plush sky]

Fair point!

[marble chasm]

@honest summit I think their trying to get baseline statistics of gear-diff in pvp, so they can then in live game tweek how many items get rolls and how many rolls (e.g., green blue = 1 roll, epic legenddary 2 rolls, etc.)

[gusty birch]

ok thanks bro

[honest marsh]

the same 2 or 3 people have been talking about the company’s finances for 40 minutes

[carmine musk]

anyone selling the two hand sword artifact or dagger?

[mellow charm]

more tweaking gear and queues no new content lmao

[hard spoke]

man i hope sdf is reading all you solo crybabies and regretting that he ever listened to you people

[ocean gale]

Can someone call a nursing home for @gusty birch ? This dude isn't mentally sound me thinks, he probably escaped this morning

[trim quail]

brb bout to go grief HR

[honest summit]

I would be happy if this was true. But SDF's vision includes a game with no random modifiers in it

[bitter citrus]

don't forget about the financial backers, they also get a cut

[sick badger]

Did anyone lose items during the update?

[fleet pelican]

how do i get to the test server if i transferred to steam?

[low helm]

this the 20% iron mace is trying to drop. thats why hes the goat

[burnt moon]

almost time to quit the boat guys ,

[marble chasm]

@mellow charm that's fair, but new content is hard to add if there are too many queues with dead lobbies. A new map = more dead lobbies. A new game mode = more dead lobbies

[calm salmon]

Lemme get uhhhhhhhh looter extraction hold the loot

[honest marsh]

I don’t think he’s a native English speaker ngl

[jovial spear]

Your boy got his first artifact today from a kill 💃

[plush sky]

There were no dead lobbies, and if there were it was post region locking and that was the reason.

[mellow charm]

bruh they can add a social space new gear other things map is one example a new boss for inferno etc

[trim quail]

the only accurate thing youve said today... SDF is in fact dropping the player base lol

[unreal obsidian]

So everything I put gems on will just have the stuff removed?

[opal mason]

status check: have they walked back solo/duo removal?

[zealous trout]

I think the game is worse when we dont have ruins solo 24, ruins solo 124, ruins solo hr 224, ruins solo hr uncapped, ruins duo 24, ruins duo 124, ruins duo 224, ruins duo hr uncapped, ruins trios 24, ruins trio 124, ruins trio 224, ruins trio uncapped, goblin caves solo 24, goblin caves solo 124, goblin caves solo 224, goblin caves solo uncapped, duo goblin caves 24, goblincave duo 124, goblin cave duo 224, goblin caves duo uncapped, goblincaves trio 24, goblincaves trio 124, goblin caves trio 224, goblin caves trio uncapped, ice cavern solo 24, ice cavern solo 124, ice cavern solo 224, ice cavern solo uncapped, ice cavern duo 24, ice cavern duo 124, ice cavern duo 224, ice cavern uncapped, trio ice cavern 24, trio ice cavern 124, trio ice cavern 224, trio ice cavern uncapped, pve ruins, pve ice, pve goblin, and arena

[low helm]

yes thats what i just said

[ocean gale]

Not as much the broken english, more the random tangent jumps to random assumptions about my opinions on things. This dude be jumping all over the place with his messages

[lapis quest]

Did they take out the dash through doors

[marble chasm]

@honest summit How do you know no random modifiers is part of their vision? Just because the test server has a patch doesn't mean it's gona go live. The fact they removed adventure mode (which was clearly a new player friendly success) in the test server suggests their just trying to force pvp and gather data

[wide herald]

Play warlock without gear or magic healing. Dead class 😂

[honest marsh]

Might be the whippets

[burnt moon]

nop look at the update

[bitter citrus]

i would think either a percent off the top or a flat amount by a certain date

[trim quail]

queue HR ruins trios rq

[buoyant swan]

my game keeps crashing as i start it through epic games, anyone know how to solve this?

[ocean gale]

"Naw dude, Galaxy Gas isn't killing my brain man, it's FREEING my brain man. I am enlightened now, don't mind the 3 hospital visits"

[opal mason]

oh no no no no hahaha oh no no ...

[gusty birch]

Look bro next time you enter into a dialogue with someone and then start talking about some narratives that only someone else has in their head, try not to look like an silly in this chain of meanings

[plush sky]

Epic stopped servicing this game months ago lol

[marble chasm]

@plush sky Regardless of if there were or weren't dead lobiees. My point remains. more maps or game modes = fewer playres in every queue, on average. So it's harder to make new content when too many queues exist

[low helm]

naw imma queue normals solos. oh wait

[trim quail]

quit acting you have friends who queue with you

[honest marsh]

“try not to look like an silly in this chain of meanings”

[ocean gale]

Brother put the Galaxy Gas down pls, don't do it for me do it for your friends and family man. Get help

[buoyant swan]

fr? i have legendary on epic. Is there any way to like move the account to steam?

[plush sky]

Except again, there were no dead lobbies so removing queues when the population was fine IS what killed the population leading to " dead lobbies"...... lol not hard to see that. More maps==more content which is what the entire community wants

[upper forum]

Bro im putting that on a tshirt

[low helm]

quit acting like SDF needs to cater to you lmao. gonna be a rough next couple wipes for u. buckle in @trim quail

[calm salmon]

Lemme get uhhhhhh looter extraction hold the loot please, with a side of 1v3s

[gusty birch]

Yea cause he start talking with me about solos removal and then he arguing im pushin somethin outta this world ok relax bro

[brave oriole]

Tribalism!

[honest marsh]

One of the world’s greatest thinkers 🔥

[static pendant]

Next wipe:

"Wait where are all of our playercounts going?"

"Guys I didn't mean it like that come back-"

[trim quail]

SDF's literal job is to cater to the player base...

I bet your dog wags its tail when you leave

[ocean gale]

Bout to get a hat with "Chain of Meanings" written on it man. Shits based as hell

[plush sky]

There was a fix but no idea, ive been using the blacksmith launcher since day 1 before it was even on steam so No idea

[marble granite]

https://youtu.be/p57zXfKXJJs
This video is like an open letter specifically to SDF right now, just adding a proper coop mode to your game on the side would only be a positive thing for any developer, there's a huge market for a dungeons & dragons inspired dungeon crawler coop game, just let us have that and focus on your vision in addition for those who share it. It's really low effort to add a proper nightmare PvE mode and have their own ecosystem on the side. This'll bump up player numbers and sales with minimal additional effort from the dev team.

[burnt moon]

removing adventure mode is crazy , alot of new players that wanna try the game and learn it will give up because in trios most of the time , the players have sweath equals to there ego

[rigid depot]

Guys i literally uninstalled test realm as soon as i played the 1st match. NO attributes on gear is just WACK. Whats the point of an extraction game without loot? LIKE WHATTT are these guys even thinking?

[low helm]

we dropping the worst part of the community. next wipe is going to be a blast

[hard spoke]

he is catering to us 🙂

[smoky jetty]

remove trios!

[ocean gale]

Bruh they removing PVE, you're cooked if you think they are gonna add a HR version

[trim quail]

the drops in active player counts determined that was a lie

[static pendant]

Im not gonna lie, as a new player as well, I think that adventure mode actually isn't the best for learning the game, you can learn trash mobs and stuff, but you're hardly gonna be fighting bosses in a conventional manner let alone getting their loot, it just feels like a waste of a queue imo

just give us fully offline PvE dungeons so that they don't take up the queue and new players like us can still learn

[plush sky]

Don't need to think that, it's become a reality. Playerbase numbers don't lie

[low helm]

hes catering to me i know that. can u say the same?

[hard spoke]

wasnt that big of a drop tbh. thought it would be bigger with the amount of cope in here

[marble granite]

Guess the dungeoncrawler coop fanbase will just have to look elsewhere.
It's a real shame, they had this in the bag if they just catered to more than their core 5000 people hardcore battleroyale fanbase.

[marble chasm]

@plush sky You cannot dispute my point about more queue = fewer players per queue assuming the player population remains static. If they added 10 maps tomorrow (new content), the game would feel empty because now, assuming everyone evenly queues for these maps, means that lobbies will have 90% fewer players. I beleive the devs are looking ahead and have figured this would be a new issue. But in any case, another reason for removing solos/duos is that the game is balanced for trios. It's hard to maintain many versions of the game. Some (@viperstar) argue remove trios, but trios is objectivley more competitive (higher skill ceiling) than solo/duos.

[sly adder]

Bring back the tavern Remove continuous dungeons

[buoyant swan]

man idk. Im not spending another 20 - 30 dollars for leg again. Does anyone know if you can move accounts from epic?

[ocean gale]

The fact they are removing like 80% of the server spaces, I think this game is going under financially pretty fucking fast

[honest marsh]

yeah pve was great for practicing against mobs and learning mechanics without having to worry about max movement speed barbarians

[gusty birch]

Wow, actually i just tryin to explain something to a person like you. You talking about pre wipe numbers - im answer - you sayin im just pestering you. Ok walk with peace dog

[trim quail]

when you top off at 20k active players. losing 5k (and counting) is in fact a "big drop".

Its simple math dude.

[low helm]

its not that they think its going under theyre just lashing out because their way of playing is dying out rightfully so

[frozen sleet]

[plush sky]

You make it sound like there were 500 maps though, there were 3, ok yes I agree when it was squire, rare, 2 hr dungeons etc that was alot of lobbies, however removing all of them is far too radical. I do agree with that point you are making though

[static pendant]

cmon SDF we know thats your alt, get back in your kitchen. (Or better yet, don't.)

[ocean gale]

Brother are you still trying to talk to me? Like I genuinely don't understand whats happening with you. Do you need me to call you an ambulance or something? Like are you having a stroke? Like what in the actual FUCK are you still rambling on about

[trim quail]

SDF couldnt boil water in his kitchen. All these fanboys are so cringe. get some fresh air weirdos

[honest marsh]

try not to look like an silly in this chain of meanings bro

[low helm]

-5k - 9 less queues = the dungeons are up up up

[frozen sleet]

Not an alt I just like the game

[plush sky]

Game fully dead in a month anyway with the direction sdf is taking it so I wouldn't bother spending a penny dude

[ocean gale]

ngl I think the bro actually adds to the quote pretty fucking well.

[burnt moon]

well its on the test server for a reason lol, but if they bring that to live, let me tell you nobody will continue to play , like ever. I was here for the excitment when you get a great piece , now that is gone with gem sockets, and now no more attributes then no more excitment

[trim quail]

up up up? dudes a certified troll.

[granite cosmos]

SDF is cooking pls support our king

[honest summit]

It came directly out of SDFs mouth

[static pendant]

I like the game too

unimpeded by SDF and Ironmace that is

[marble chasm]

@plush sky Indeed, you are right. Adding 1 map probably won't make a difference. But over many years, new maps and game modes (e.g., arena) will hinder lobby populations on average. It's unfortunate that their removing somethign 90% of the players enjoy. Hopefully for new playesr, those who enjoy trios, or those players that adapt and learn to love trios can benifit from a better game and I hope they don't kill the game

[severe coyote]

Sdf is cooking with spoiled meat fr. He needs to get the hell out of the kitchen

[ocean gale]

I'm about to go for like an hour, and I have a STRONG feeling Judge_Dredd over here still going to be trying to talk to me when I get back

[gusty birch]

Yeah im call a police cause there is a mad cl--ow--n tryin make fun of me... cause im answer at his quotes... I dont get a point