game-discussion

[autumn jacinth]

im staying in the server just incase 3years from now when there are only 2 players left and cant run trios they finally wake up and return solos duos.

[obsidian harbor]

hotfix

[light fern]

a server update on Steam

[agile timber]

yeah i havent looked in to it i might look up a run down later as i hit a point where idgaf if they won or lost

[willow crescent]

Check announcements, hotfix being implemented, probably down for 45 more min

[coarse portal]

Next season you'll be able play solo and duos. But you'll have to buy the season pass

[inner marsh]

People really need to get some of those negative reviews

[pastel surge]

Ah, looked away and didn't see a quote, so I missed the context. Haha

[calm musk]

doesnt change the fact they started the game as free game, so investment was close to 0 and the team (originally had like 5 devs if im not wrong) now they have 100 devs and im 100% sure they have more money then when they started, so even tho this happaned and was ok a big deal for maybe the first EA year? well it been 2 year without this concern and they still cant pull thei weight

[wet kindle]

im not ever purchasing shit from this game cause of the direction this game is going.

[queen zephyr]

LOL THE GAME IS DYING I LOVE TO SEE IT BURNNNNN

[light fern]

thats wh ywe're here?

[agile timber]

hell yeah DM me pawg

[merry urchin]

<@&988703997378584596> pls mod OF bots in wizard channel

[green beacon]

does anyone have anything good to say about @glad thunder

[severe coyote]

Not a single streamer reviewing these changes positively lol

[inland hatch]

It’s honestly pretty sad for me, played the hell out of it for like 2 years and I’m sad to see it die. Unless sdf brings back solos and duos this will likely be my last season

[queen zephyr]

Ken Konobi does bc hes a complete sellout

[drifting hinge]

Bring back blue lobbies, this common stuff is boooring

[calm musk]

he helped creat darker he breaths and sounds like hes healthy that the most i could find

[autumn rapids]

He's very self-confident (?)

[autumn jacinth]

i watched trove die here i am watching this game die sad days.

[harsh coral]

@green beacon honest to god no

[mossy wing]

We are looking into it

[light fern]

theyre all sellouts, whatever keeps their light s on

[wet kindle]

whats the player count any1 know?i uninstalled 3 weeks ago so i wouldnt know

[queen zephyr]

0 players game is completely ded

[grim sand]

More like he has huge ass ego

[merry urchin]

Ty was taken care of

[calm musk]

trove was sick but never had much future

[harsh coral]

@wet kindle its rapidly declining gang

[inland hatch]

Patch right now, usually hovers around 10k

[gusty granite]

Exactly, the game is (or at least was) amazing, and is an amazing concept, the game itself doesn't deserve to die, but sdf does deserve whatever happens to it because of his shitty decisions

[split jacinth]

think just before this patch put server down it was link 3k

[autumn jacinth]

it did but when the game got sold to that one grave yard studio i knew it was over

[wanton otter]

NO MY WIZARD RIZZLER BOTS~~

[queen zephyr]

ik its a joke bro

[agile timber]

trove man i enjoyed that game for a bit

[wet kindle]

oh thats hella sad. love this game but not fucking with removing solos and duos.

[calm musk]

i started playing when it was in the transition already so the future was already a blur when i joined

[merry urchin]

You'll have to fly to my home and personally rizz me if you want this wizard gear

[severe coyote]

I do love this "Reduce the drop rate of Artifact items in the HR dungeons." so now that all I got to see was my trio squad getting rolled by teams in full artifact outfits, now I can't even get an artifact of my own lol

[autumn jacinth]

rip i played it years ago second most played game on steam for me love that game to bad.

[inland hatch]

Any of yall heard of Enlisted? It’s got a smaller community but you can still find full lobbies and it’s a bop

[split jacinth]

yeah same, its a great game but too much bouncing around with hotfixes and patches that remove and re instate the same things 15 times over

[merry urchin]

Star wars battlefront 2 is popping right now, bigger playerbase than DaD

[static pendant]

everyone knows that changing numbers and removing liked features is easier than actually adding content, silly

[shell bison]

dog game ngl

[lavish tendon]

isnt battlefront 2 full of cheaters still?

[inland hatch]

Won’t support EA with a non descript armament to my head

[gusty granite]

Yeah, force you to play HR, but unless you play this game for a living like that other team is, you won't ever have the funds to build a kit that can compete with them, so why did you even bother entering the dungeon to begin with?

[wet kindle]

WHICH IS INSANE SINCE ITS BEEN 5 PLUS YEARS..

[frail nexus]

sadly yes

[autumn rapids]

Hopefully the boycott of all the Solos players will provide the numbers to push the Company in the right direction

The game isn't balanced in ANY mode, so who cares

[regal pivot]

About 10k

[merry urchin]

I never thought an EA game would be more popular than DaD, but here it is.

[agile timber]

honestly it kind of sucked i tried i really did but the AI squad just killed it they remove that and it would be 10/10

[wet kindle]

YEP UR NOT THE ONLY ONE, me and my homeboy uninstalled

[inland hatch]

There’s lone fighter mode which is kind of a bop, but I personally like the squad aspect

[calm musk]

it actually takes an AI less than 10 minutes to scan your role code and make the number changes they make when "balancing" even if the game is HUGE, so yeah some devs are slacking of HUGE in IM i mean most of em clearly

[shell bison]

and ngl it shouldnt be balanced. Thats logic that for example a rogue has an advantage over squishy classes its like everything was made to counter eachother

[wet kindle]

agreed.

[worn dove]

if "IM" would only be as goated as "GGG" they would have great future

[autumn jacinth]

what counters warlocks?

[queen zephyr]

If you are a solo player you have to quit and uninstall now. They will never learn otherwise.

[wet kindle]

did that awhile ago.

[cloud epoch]

is it just me or can i not connect to the game

[harsh coral]

@autumn rapids content creators already moved on to other games because ig content is easier against timmy in solo

[split jacinth]

patch happening

[queen zephyr]

me too did about 5 days ago. I have 5.5k hour but Im not gonna eat the shit dinner they're feeding me anymore. Im done.

[merry urchin]

A patch to nerf drop rates 😆

[shell bison]

any class with high ms

[cloud epoch]

ohhh tysm

[autumn jacinth]

idk man warlocks just gotta run away and spam ya with curse

[inland hatch]

I don’t like sdf on a personal level

[light fern]

MW2 Sniper?

[calm musk]

dream come true, new announcement, they say SDFs is resingning, SDF make a apologie for the community and opens the game up about going blind and loosing hes vision, terry says hes going ack to main dev seat, they actually start making in-game events to hype up the community like closed servers for tournaments or things like that, in a few months DnD reaches new peak players online 100K+, water map comes out no item balance changes just new content, new class comming up but its tested in test servers before its realese, druid is removed from the game. the DnD we all wanted to see

[shell bison]

isnt that what any mage type class does?

[inland hatch]

I think the moderators of this channel are cowards

[harsh coral]

legit can not do anything about a warlock with good ms unless you are landmine rouge just sitting like a little rat

[light fern]

Woah Woah Woah

[wet kindle]

last wipe apparently to my homeboy that has 1k plus hours was the best state DaD ever been in. last wipe was really fun. i have 400 plus hours and he got me into this game hella hard but dont want to play it in its state anymore.

[grim stag]

throwing knives exist bows exist frani axes exist

[autumn jacinth]

teh difference is warlock gets healed from his curses and they are infinite as long as he is getting healed.

[quick sand]

LET ME BACK IN IM FUCKING ADDICTED

[agile timber]

might have to hop on with my dad to try that

[light fern]

NEVER

[wise remnant]

FACTS BRO PREACH. EVERYONE WHINING ABOUT DRUID BUT WARLOCK IS THE REAL PROBLEM WITH THIS GAME.

[inland hatch]

I think the moderators of this server should time me out because I’ve been a bad boy

[shell bison]

yeh and sorcerer,mage can one tap you with good combo

[rotund warren]

when are we getting solos a duos back???????

[grim stag]

yall are bad to not relize the counter to warlock is literally range wizard counters ranger counters barb counters with frani axes and anti movespeed shout rouge counters with throwing knives

[quick sand]

i suck so much but i get so much dopamine collecting GOLD

[split jacinth]

Be careful what you wish for, they'll take what you're addicted to away in the next hotfix 😂

[hardy briar]

did they bring back blues yet

[light fern]

careful, I got banned fro mthe 40k server for egging on slowmodespam

[wet kindle]

never unfortunately until we hit him where it hurts. there pockets.

[inland hatch]

I think sdf is a bad person :3

[autumn jacinth]

i dont even know why they added sorc we have wizard its stupid now i as a fighter have like 4-5 different classes that are my kryptonite.

[quick sand]

hot take but I think only trios is GOOD FOR THE GAME

[rotund warren]

IM TWEAKIINNNNNNNGGGGGGGG

[light fern]

trios IS good for the game

[harsh trench]

Guys, what's wrong with the server, why isn't it logging in

[split jacinth]

Patch

[harsh coral]

@inland hatch i think you forget they don't even moderate their own game that is rapidly dead

[naive wolf]

No shot its gonna take 2 hrs for this lackluster patch

[calm musk]

ofc trios only game in it current state is good for the death of the game

[wet kindle]

no bs lol i want them hurtin like they hurt us lol

[inland hatch]

Guh you’re so right I’m sorry

[shell bison]

well it works as intented high dps but squishy, its like an adc from league of legenda

[rotund warren]

truth

[grim stag]

🇰 eep🇾 ourself🇸 afe

[quick sand]

ok my g hell ya

[harsh trench]

how long will the servers be down?

[autumn jacinth]

warlocks are not squishy they legit heal mid fight lol

[light fern]

that sounds like someone who isnt good at solos, or good at communicating with a team

[woeful raft]

facts, you land a bow shot, he lands a curse.. difference is.. hes being healed and your not lmao

[inland hatch]

Any neutral milk hotel fans in this bihh

[terse saddle]

If I get forced to play with 2 randos I would rather just kill my teamates the whole time so i can solo

[grim stag]

so does half of the classes druid barb cleric WHAT ARE U ON ABT UR JUST TRASH ACCEPT IT

[hardy briar]

are we getting blues and actual game modes back?

[opaque compass]

Nah swans good tho

[shell bison]

well yes but im talking about pdr and max hp

[harsh trench]

how long will the servers be down?

[reef galleon]

if they are on time 28 more minutes

[severe ridge]

Play some wanky single player game if you dont like the randomness of dungeon delving. This genre isnt just for you if you like to play this game like an otist

[autumn jacinth]

bard has to play music to heal cleric has to take out his staff to heal warlock curses you than takes out his long sword to fight while your taking damage from his curse plus his healing from said curse

[inland hatch]

They never are

[lunar fable]

TWOOOOO HEADED BOIIIII

[brittle loom]

please finish the maintenence I will be so grateful

[woeful raft]

dudes ragebaiting trying to compare heals with warlock lmao

[reef galleon]

i hope they are im just tryna get a few games in befoer bed im feining

[quick sand]

THEY NEED AN LFG TAVERN TO SET UP TRIO LOBBIES

[terse saddle]

You got some braincells in that skull?

[inland hatch]

WITH PULLEYS AND WEIGHHTTTSSS

[autumn jacinth]

fr not to mention some curses makes you weaker as well so your squishier he heals while fighting lol

[inner egret]

No it’s a rage bait patch

[calm musk]

lol i have 200k+ gold in my stashs prob 10 artifacts i play with the boys and solo, but trios only is the dumbest shit ever, they had maps for solo/duo/trios before and was even worst. the biggest game issue is dead lobbies (was before W patch) remove solos takes out prob 40% player pop that has no friends to play, that will also have no way to enjoy the game and in the process search for people to play with, will be no way to farm when your friends are not online game will be complete mess, playing in a trio with randoms against a friends team is = to insta deafeat most times so yeah, make it trios only and watch pop going down to 5k ppl maybe less and lobbies being the most unfun they ever were. If you need teamates to carry your dead weight around not my fault bro

[shell bison]

at this point i think ur just bad

[light fern]

bro played alot, but not well smh

[autumn jacinth]

okay

[quick sand]

u can still play solos but ur gonna run into trios?

[harsh coral]

@calm musk good point bro i love it

[reef galleon]

they are only at like 8k concurrent players now lmao

[granite copper]

Is server down ?

[devout star]

i wish arena was every day

[inland hatch]

GOLDALINE MY DEARR, WE WILL FOLD AND FREEZE TOGETHER, FAR AWAY FROM HEERE, THERE IS SUN AND SPRING AND GREEN FOREVER, BUT NOW WE MOVE TO FEEL FOR OURSELVES INSIDE SOME STRANGERS STOMACH, PLACE YOUR BODY HERE, WHERE YOUR SKIN BEGINS TO BLEND ITSELF WITH MEEEE

[wanton otter]

🛳️ ⏬

[severe ridge]

Why you play this game without friends? Do you not see how unbalanced solo play is?????

[willow crescent]

View announcements channel, hotfix/patching ongoing

[light fern]

right?

[harsh coral]

@devout star right this game aint poppin enough for it to be limited

[thick mauve]

IM lost a ton of money in the suit, and the game isnt generating much money anymore, they dont care about the game anymore

[clever burrow]

does any1 know how much longer

[frail nexus]

no everyone just decided to log off at the same time

[wise remnant]

why are people so tilted over common solo/duos going away... sack up and play high roller like wth?

[light fern]

2am CST hopefully

[woeful raft]

solo takes skills. unless your rogue or barb.

[terse saddle]

Ive only had fun in solos idk what yall are on ab it being unbalanced, only 10% of my fights feel unbalanced and most other times its just me miss playing

[wanton otter]

bug fixes

Eh fukkit nerf loot too

[quick sand]

anyone trynna run some runs after this? im pretty new to the game though

[earnest current]

5 day looking for armour scap for quest butt only 4 ... WTF is that balance

[calm musk]

sorry if u need people to pull up your dead weight not being confident enough to explore the dungeon with no one to ress you when u fall to PvE, and having the need to actually pay attention to the game since no one is warning you the enemy is comming, since u are afraid of the dark when you are by yourself no hands to hold

[dire heron]

No problem getting kills in solo if i was a trios player id tell you you have a skill problem but well im not

[granite copper]

I like solo rare games don't care about common

[terse saddle]

Im not gonna spend time searching through this shit community to find people I enjoy playing with and wants to do the samething I wanna do when i wanna play

[main bison]

what if we became best friends and played together

[light fern]

you couldnt play solos dont get mad at me if you couldnt pull your weight???

[wise remnant]

bro a purple kit is cheaper than a blue kit used to be.... just throw on purps and pretend its blue lobbies and ape...

[granite copper]

Have they addressed their thoughts on green gear, it's essentially useless ATM

[terse saddle]

I dont wanna look for new people every time I want to just boos, or just pvp, or just farm gold, their is no clear obj in this game it is all what you want to do

[shell bison]

too bad bro

[calm musk]

yeah u afraid of solos your comments jsut make that very clear

[willow crescent]

I've met some cool people through queuing in trios, just enable your mic and get talking to the others!

[harsh coral]

@wise remnant yup lets ape cuz that totally works in a game full of squire rat rouges

[agile timber]

oh btw guys cant forget about the new reporting system that im sure wont be abused like COD's is by salty people who get skill diffed

[autumn jacinth]

realistically speaking since the game is made so that some classes are stronger against other classes if playing solo's how would you go about fighting your weakness.

[light fern]

all i play is solos? what are you talking about

[wise remnant]

what are you talking about? solo HR? i rarely run into rats

[terse saddle]

That would be lit

[light fern]

just cuz you cant play solo doesnt mean everyone is as bad as you

[shell bison]

also its insane for me that you can go hr in squire xsd

[frigid sleet]

who else quit

[dire heron]

Lol yea all 3 of you voip so the whole lobby can hear you

[terse saddle]

fr

[quick sand]

not even gonna lie game is so fun idc i just rp my way outta gangbanged by trios

[agile timber]

Run? aint no shame in W keying out and mob dumping

[willow crescent]

You can change VOIP from proximity to party only...

[terse saddle]

SDF really just needs to sell this game to another company that know what they are doing and acutally are good game dev cause like at this point im conviced he is just trying to kill his own game XDD

[light fern]

never anything wrong with winning a fight

[north knoll]

nice patch, now there gonna be more rats in hr

[dire heron]

You can but your random timmy prob wont know thats even a option

[brittle loom]

Im praying right now

[autumn jacinth]

if i cant have the game no one can type shit 🤣

[granite copper]

I load into a trio as a solo and Im immediately hunted by a trio of barbarian ss troopers.

I watched them hunt down a wizard and hid until they left scared they would come for me next

[hollow sorrel]

What up fellow haters

[dreamy pecan]

Did they just nerf sorc again?

[nocturne prairie]

we are back

[granite copper]

Tried to play rogue but felt too scummy

[cursive sparrow]

so back

[autumn jacinth]

idk just a joke saying he is ruining the game so that is dies and no other studio can get it

[severe ridge]

This comment is making me smile through my teeth, ngl

[inner egret]

Yay the patch process is complete hooray nothing meaningful was added or removed

[willow crescent]

What's wrong with guiding them to the option? "Hey new player, make sure your VOIP is in party only by hitting ESC and highlighting 'party only' at the bottom left!"

[simple rune]

they may aswell of just deleted the class, it's got nothing going for it

[quick sand]

WE BACK BOYS LETS GOO GET IN THERE

[main raven]

To be fair, Sorcs actually get unbelievably countered by basically every ranged weapon

[terse saddle]

took me a second but I finally got what you meant XDD its 2am and my brain slow rn

[clear pendant]

A patch just for nerfing nameds loot table?

[upper bolt]

L FIXES

[glass silo]

Beside being the most broken class?

[hollow sorrel]

That’s the norm

[zinc totem]

sorc needed the nerf op af druid needs buff ngl

[cloud ice]

SDF FINISHED PATCH EARLY??

[simple rune]

fattest cope ive ever heard

[gloomy portal]

Still no solos?

[cold tide]

when will we see the hr rewards

[golden warren]

@glad thunder so how do you feel knowing that your game might die

[hollow sorrel]

Yeah this is cope lmao wtf

[autumn jacinth]

dude sorc has so many abilities its insane all he has to do is dodge some arrows

[inner egret]

It’s almost like it wasn’t a patch at all

[woeful raft]

na bard buff when 😤

[calm musk]

hes probably throwing a party since it was all hes doing

[frail nexus]

SIGMAS UPPDATE

[winter crown]

who here wants to kill the spectral knight for me

[zinc totem]

sorce needed nerft, druid buff needed

[honest marsh]

Worthless ah update

[simple rune]

you get 1 shot by ranger or a rogue is ontop of you with cutthroat and you die or a barb with ironwill there's 0 counterplay

[sacred laurel]

wait what was the new patch

[cloud ice]

Once the patch begins, you will be unable to log in to the game, and players who are already in-game will not be able to enter the matchmaking pool.

[glass silo]

Literally no cope, sor op

[main raven]

Sorc is at a standstill (figureatively, or even literally) while casting spells, and he doesn't have any other options like Wizards do for engaging ranged targets.

Sorcs do actually have Mud Shield but I've yet to see one using it lmao

[terse saddle]

got 2 named items in like 15 boss runs so honestly I dont mind the nerf

[harsh coral]

@glad thunder all on the edges of our seats just waiting for a good patch knowing damn well the best hotfix in weeks is the arena being opend op again

[zinc totem]

sorce got much needed nerf, tho they didnt buff druid like it needed

[autumn jacinth]

he has a teleport

[simple rune]

you are huffing on that copium

[terse saddle]

Named items should feel super rare and not less then 1 skull key because they are so common now

[hollow sorrel]

And rogue has double jump your point? Not to mention Druid

[clear pendant]

Mud shield got nerfed also buff duration bonus, thats why ppl just dont use it

[main raven]

The teleport is fairly obvious, isn't it? Its not like Invis which is actually useful

[zinc totem]

1 item shouldnt cost 20k+?

[sacred laurel]

how bad was thee nerf @zinc totem

[autumn jacinth]

his point was that sorc cant close the gap to rangers i said he has a teleport

[honest marsh]

It’s sdf’s vision bro

[fickle moss]

trios only was what the game originally was. it was good and had very few complaints about matchmaking. then they introduced solo queue and duo queue which was a terrible idea. now people have had a taste of solo/duo/trio queue so it's a bad idea to take it away imo

[shell bison]

pfp says all🥀

[hollow sorrel]

Ah my fault og

[main raven]

I know Mud Shield's duration did get nerfed fairly hard, but 4 seconds of almost complete arrow immunity is pretty strong

[zinc totem]

they nerfed it bad but druid needs to 1 shot as bear and 2 shot as panther

[terse saddle]

farm 4 runs of gold pile and get 20k likes its not hard

[keen osprey]

Not like you made half the room in a second lmao, and it even works through doors
Spellcasters as usual being dumbfucks

[glass silo]

U bad then? U got teleport to trick em brainless barb, 330 ms and u can literally kill any panthers or rogue cause of air mastery. U spam aoe every 5s or even less and u say its bad

[quick sand]

the only annoying thing i've found they changed is makin normals only white gear, i hate finding something cool for my guy and having to take it off for next run, kinda defeats the whole idea of finding something to make ur char stronger

[zinc totem]

you dont play the game if thats what you think is 20k

[main raven]

I actually DON'T think it works through doors anymore; I think that's the nerf people are talking about, but I could be wrong

[autumn jacinth]

yeah its less useful but it can easily close the gap and even throw some people off especially after hitting some ranged spells than come close with a longsword or such.

[keen osprey]

Good then, and you can still reach impossible places for even druids with it

[simple rune]

... you are actually smoking something panthers have double jump and in the time im cutthroat im dead what are you on about

[shell bison]

this wipe economy is so ass its insane

[main raven]

That's a different story, although they're still pretty shoot-able

[terse saddle]

i have over 1k hours and gotten enough 2 buy 3 gold coin chests just farming sellables so idk how shit you are but its that easy

[glass silo]

Just say u ass bro, literally pre cast that lightning vortex and no panther dares to approach u

[shell root]

who is posting national flags as reactions on the L patch.. gotta be sdf tryign to block the circus employe lmao

[humble bloom]

So they patched spells through door cracks (good) I'm hoping they don't solidify the metal bar doors.

[quick sand]

pfft the ppl that are gonna quit cuz of it will come back play the game as intended and still enjoy it

[shell flicker]

Imagine talking out of your ass like this

[slim wave]

havent played since hotfix 69 i think it was, when they made greens as good as legendaries and stuff, hows the game now? ive seen sdf and his last braincell wanna remove solos & duos, but what else goin on?

[ionic trellis]

if he dashes right clicks ur silenced and cant cast LV

[golden warren]

literally none of us wanna hear this gng. go fw your "step" sister or some shit

[keen osprey]

Yeah if you have a class with range, for Barbarians and Clerics there is not much you can do

[zinc totem]

ive played for 5 wipes straight and gotten gold chest every single one of them solo, no you do not get 20k from 4 runs of pile. unless you getting pelt, im bored on my rts and thought itd be funny to troll people still taking this wipe serious

[simple rune]

it does no do that much dmg are you high...

[fickle moss]

yeah, a good bit of them will, but it doesn't change the fact that it was poor decision making by the devs.

[dire heron]

Greysun got everone foaming at the mouth with the words something and soon lol

[inner marsh]

So a new player

Do you know about our lord and money maker market manipulation Discords?

[quick sand]

mistakes happen, just gotta keep moving w what you think is right eventually these mistakes fade in history brah

[glass silo]

45 base dmg with at least 7 true magic?

[zinc totem]

no

[keen ginkgo]

y is normal troll doing high roller moves

[glass silo]

U bad then, its not that hard bro its just reflex holy

[main raven]

I get that they've got no options for that, yeah. Still, Barbarians already counter Sorcs with Iron Will pretty hard, and I'm pretty sure Breakthrough also makes you immune to knockback while its active.

Honestly, damn near every class has something that hard counters a Sorc

[inner marsh]

Cause scarcity, sell the solution with you and your allies

The game has a small market so any form of catch and release is Easy and extremely profitable

People really will pay anything aslong as the average price says so

[glass silo]

Stop replyin then? No one talkin to u buddy

[devout pollen]

Just go watch Morty play sorc and probably if you havent yet realized the class is completely broken ... 3 knock backs, insane damage, no spell chages, a summon , a tp ... are you not seeing this ?

[keen osprey]

You call Iron Will and breakthrough hard counters?

[fickle moss]

mistakes are something you correct quickly. the game was trio only for a long while and then moved into solo/duo/trio and stuck with that for 2 yearsish (to the best of my knowledge). now isn't the time to backpedal into trios only again because so many players have joined with the knowledge that the game will be solo/duo/trio.

[autumn jacinth]

preach

[zinc totem]

you selling to 5k people, half are just starting the game and squire gear. there is no market rn and the game is dead. if you still taking it serious that is scary

[shell bison]

bro thinks hes tuff

[ionic trellis]

ur counter argument always starting w "ur bad or u must suck" says alot lmfao yea u can pre cast it off most of the time but if he dashes at u and right clicks and ur hands havent fully "casted" ur dead

[main raven]

Well, yeah cause they completely prevent Sorcs from actually kiting with their 4-5 knockback abilities that they have.

If you'd like, I could go down the list of just how many counters Sorc has

[main raven]

Any good player can make any class look insane. Same for Warlocks and especially Druids right now

[opal merlin]

i did like 20 wyverns and no artifact now im gonna have to do 100 ? stupid update

[ionic trellis]

unlucky

[devout pollen]

You re actually trolling.... you have TP, ice spear , max movespeed , if you actually think ironwill counters sorc you re ACTUALLY bad. the arguements are there

[inner marsh]

Playing market is fun aslong as there's people, in this case with low adquisitive power and poor undertanding, perfect for sharking

It's na activity you can do while you are waiting at the office for a call or while playing something better like DRG

[zinc totem]

druid needs huge buffs rn wym>

[main raven]

You can literally just tap a strafe key and make Ice Spear miss completely. Do people not know this or something?

[calm musk]

lol only 20 i must have killed over 200 lichs to get 1 zirk

[devout pollen]

Golem to block the entrances of doors ... didnt mention that one xD

[main raven]

Wait until you hear about what Druids can do

[worn bloom]

game is still fun for casuals idk

[ionic trellis]

yea he can predict ur movement still just like how wizards and warlocks can fuck u up

[sacred laurel]

My levels drops dropped on like 6 charaters i was wanderer on my barb and now im an level 11

[opal merlin]

yeah i mean in a row before update, guess the only one i have is aegis from loot rom in goblin

[shell bison]

no lets take away all the abilities make the sorc only go naked and make it 5 base will

[glass silo]

Idc bro, its just reflex. Im literally just trying to prove to the other guy that sorcerer is not weak and op af. If u wanna add sth about sor being weak then feel free buddy

[desert orchid]

loot nerfs lmao

[zinc totem]

you ever crap your pants?

[main raven]

The kinda-sucky think about Sorc is how many spells you can just ignore by hitting a strafe key.

That being said, the spells you CAN'T dodge in this way are generally pretty cringe

[keen osprey]

Breakthrough is useless, Fighters avoid spellcasters cuz they rarely have enough magic resistance to fight them so its useless against them, you would get more value from Breakthrough against a barbarian with achilles, by getting closer the Sorc can just cast teleport or the explosion spell
Iron Will is only 75 magic res, nowhere enough to go fight against a Sorc
There is no way you are glazing that hard the Sorcs, genuinely feels like you are stupid

[devout pollen]

if a barb doesnt take iron will he's 100percent COOKED ... you act like its a counter, its not lil bro, its a REQUIREMENT. but probably you dont play HR and dont pvp much, i get it

[worn bloom]

wait did he just make the game trios only for every mode

[calm musk]

the game is cooked sadly, if they made it harder to get artifacts when there werent that many bis gears would make some sense, but they mkae it harder when they make bis gear so easy to acquire

[ionic trellis]

i agree sorc is broken i was just saying a druid panther dashing u and ur counter is LV isnt the best idea just windblast ong

[desert orchid]

Its over gg

[radiant mortar]

Random modifiers have been removed from items.
like, items with no rolls?

[exotic ermine]

bro fr...

[tardy jungle]

the test server still exists?

[minor patio]

wtf going on dawg

[main raven]

Iron Will's important feature here is the Knockback immunity, not the damn 75 magic resist lmao. No one complains about the 75 MR

[nova wyvern]

Thats for the test sever not live

[fading elk]

wait so the real game doesnt have trios only now right? only test server

[gloomy portal]

Okay game dead I guess

[thin trellis]

adventure mode removed in test server? 😔

[radiant mortar]

it is but i'm just confused, it means only base stats for all items ?

[main bison]

whats random mod?

[opal merlin]

true

[copper ginkgo]

Skinny pete got his bloodthirst they don't need us to get good loot anymore

[plain totem]

I become troubaldour or balbadeer

[worn bloom]

is it only trios rn?

[calm musk]

exists is a strong world, it exists it hasnt been working for a while tho

[keen osprey]

You can still slow

[ionic trellis]

yea, i get hit alot in doorways and tight corridors where they actually do really good, its just the elemental bolt thats honestly easy asf to predict and dodge but still broken ass class

[desert orchid]

game is dead rest in pis no rolls on gear patch 69 next wipe

[shell bison]

its like saying "if I hit all my Francisca axes i can win without going melee"

[glass silo]

Well fair thats true, u can do either wind blast or lightning vortex. Like literally sor has 2 options to fuck panther up

[ivory tulip]

wait its on the test server??? bro who the fuck plays the test server

[slim wave]

all this game needs to be good again is a new lead dev, sdf and his "vision" arent cuttign it

[honest thunder]

how to kill a game 101

[drifting hinge]

haha no modifiers, patch 69 all over again, with even more sht things and removal of lobbies

[vague kernel]

Aaand there goes solos

[north fable]

bruh, who runs slows anymore

[sly adder]

Why are we being trolled

[tardy jungle]

lmao why they even put that stuff on the test server? no need to test it when ur community doesnt want it, so just send it

[hollow oar]

[keen osprey]

Its literally on every fucking attack and some spells have it as base?

[drifting hinge]

I will in an hour

[obtuse shuttle]

hes farming clo-wn reactions

[ionic trellis]

yea if u push them back once its over for them but i j thought LV took a lil longer than windblast but its a guarenteed super knockback

[ivory tulip]

WHY MAKE ARENA ALWAYS OPEN ON TEST SERVER AND NOT ACTUAL GAME? WHO IS TESTING THIS ALL 2 PLAYERS?

[winter grail]

oh so now they use the test server to test massive changes mid wipe??? absolutely incompetent devs

[devout pollen]

windblast, lightning vortex, ice spear, TP, golem to block doors, what else am i forgotting. god forbid if you start stacking resourcefulness for CDR ...

[sly adder]

Deja vu

[keen osprey]

Holy shit they just killed the game again

[tardy jungle]

just let arena be open on live servers constantly, no one wants ur dungeons

[drifting hinge]

because they need it tested?

[worn bloom]

wait so is it only trios for everything or no

[minor patio]

guys where to find the demon flys in inferno? i cant seem to find one i dont even know what it looks like

[opal merlin]

sadly thats the shitty actual game we have, it doesnt have any point to do bosses right now u can literally got the same amount of money from a pile or whatever than just kill 10 lich and got like what ? unique rat pendant and shit like that

[rotund warren]

unreal update

[fickle moss]

bruh just launch the game and find out instead of asking 3 times xd

[dire heron]

Can you even use the test server through steam havent tryed since i made the switch

[vast beacon]

are these devs rage baiting i actually dont get it

[drifting hinge]

hahaha no modifiers

[north fable]

ah, i thought u meant the wizard spell named slow, but yeah still, it still doesnt matter cuz he be running at you at full 330 ms

[worn bloom]

I'm on my phone rn

[keen osprey]

Just glad its only test server, but doesn't means it won't make it to live

[glass silo]

Yes literally, ppl who say sor ass is literally copin and trolling

[weary herald]

JUST REMOVE DUOS KEEP SOLOS AND TRIOS

[upbeat bridge]

are they ever gonna bring back rare raids?

[fickle moss]

high roller is still solo/duo/trios rn

[calm musk]

WTF is are this tests:

Random modifiers have been removed from items.,
Adventure Mode has been removed.,
The available party type for both Normal and High Roller has been changed to Trios Only (Up to Trios).,
When using High Roller Trios, you can choose Do not fill empty party member slots.,
To facilitate smooth repeat testing, Dungeon Recovery is set to 100%.,
The Rarity Limit for all dungeons on the test server is set to Artifact.,
The Rarity Limit for the Arena on the test server is set to Unique.,
The Arena is always open.

bro lol if these changes go in the game will go from 10k to 2k in a day

[ivory tulip]

but the problem is you have to regrind everything on the test server and there are no players so you cant even play arena?

[vague kernel]

I’m pretty sure this has to be some either late asf or early asf April fools joke

[radiant mortar]

there should be three in the blood colums module in inferno

[knotty bough]

Its the vision, lets see how it goes

[humble bloom]

4 days a week the arena should be open minimum. I don't even play that mode but so many people like it. I know it cuts the potential player pool but if it provides a more enjoyable experience for most then why not

[worn bloom]

ok thank you

[minor patio]

alr thanks

[tardy jungle]

no reason to test the queues, it doesnt impact gameplay so nothing is able to be tested

[drifting hinge]

I saw a level 169 on test yesterday

[swift marlin]

Just give us 10v10 arena and I probably won't care about all the ridiculous constant reworks

[autumn jacinth]

What do they mean by random modifiers?

[analog blaze]

Why don't they just put all 3 team sizes and put pve/normal/highroller ?????

[fading elk]

Thats really bad if that comes to the game

[keen osprey]

extra stats from quality in example, +1 all attributes, +3% cooldown reduction

[ivory tulip]

i can count the number of players in the test server on two hands brotha

[tardy jungle]

lmao that'd be crazy, set it in the boss arena with some cover and its goated

[radiant mortar]

dead lobbies, too many queues

[dire heron]

Can you even use the test server through steam havent tryed since i made the switch

[fringe cliff]

nope

[drifting hinge]

Probably because it hasnt been updated in months

[autumn jacinth]

Zero chance right il delete the game tonight if that happens

[mellow kraken]

LF bbw pawg dungeon bunny girlfriend to queue and discuss the game during duos with tonight - - serious inquiries only

[swift marlin]

Been saying this for years man all I want to see is large scale pvp will be hilarious on Comms

[keen osprey]

its only test servers, not LIVE servers where like 95% the players play

[analog blaze]

when they added it i was finding games in less than 2 minutes if people are mad cuz they don't find games instantly that's really sad

[ivory tulip]

yeah and because it wipes every season and there is no loot buffs

[vague kernel]

But they weren’t and aren’t?
At least in my experience

[calm musk]

either it will be like back then when itens didnt even had meaning or itens will have fixed modifiers in them like it always ahd the same stuff wich would make game thrash as fuck, only way to interpret it not THAT badly is there is no more rolls on itens if u get vigor its always max

[winter grail]

well the lobbies are still dead and theres hardly any queues wonder why that is?????

[lime pine]

Bruh, I didn't even know we had a test server, why tf is SDF making change on live server constatly....

[fading elk]

No more duos anymore only trios

[drifting hinge]

Its for test

[tardy jungle]

does big titted goth fems count?

[radiant mortar]

i'm just stating their words guys, i do find people too in my games

[dire heron]

Lol so some decent changes to the test server but you gotta buy the game again to use it

[ivory tulip]

but you cant test because you start at level 1 with nothing?!?!? you might aswell just play the actual server

[analog blaze]

i know im just saying that it's dumb

[humble bloom]

Huge team fights would legitimately be a great game mode to have every week or few weeks. Something to change it up and it'd be hilarious

[fallow basalt]

playercounts are in the toilet lol

[fiery pilot]

Isn’t running a test serving taking more people away from the base game and those queues and lobbies?

[drifting hinge]

Its for testing, easy to get level 20

[tardy jungle]

no reason to play the test servers, its just queue difference

[main raven]

Okay, so why do they release two garbage updates, and then release a Test Server update that kinda goes hard?

[autumn jacinth]

Oof also not to mentions they want to remove hr solo duos that's a yikes for sure

[ivory tulip]

you cant be real

[shell root]

arena always open on test server? might just switch ngl xd how can it be open there 24/7 but not on life

[fading carbon]

No more pve mode? 😔

[radiant mortar]

it is

[winter grail]

if they use it 24/7 yes

[near stag]

games over

[fading elk]

well we will see a patch next year hopefully they dont screw it up in 2026

[vague kernel]

Ah yes, I have the perfect idea, removes the game
Now it’s perfect!

[dire heron]

No because steam players dont have access to the test server

[calm musk]

not really test server is kinda of big W, they can (bet they wont but they CAN) not make some changes thats would completly kill the player bse buy trying them on test servers

[north fable]

The only time they made use of the test server , but for the stupidest of things to test

[somber spindle]

Idk what they removed the pve mode. That was a pretty big gate for new players was not being able to learn the bosses

[fringe cliff]

You gotta be on blacksmith and own founders edition but tbh remove modifiers completely is a terrible move. They already did this and game pop was 4k within a few days. Im down for some hard nerfs on modifiers for sure but completely removing it is stupid.

[potent canopy]

Give us 15v15 battleground with king of the hill and capture the flag

[lunar fable]

Maybe this idea has been said before but what if:

No random modifiers on items
Higher rarity = higher base stats AND gem slots
random mods only available thru gems

Arena SSF, gemmed is alright
HR can be items bought from market

[frigid tundra]

gg chat it was fun while it lasted

[radiant mortar]

true test server is big w considering his horrible decision making, that's IF it's used at all

[drifting hinge]

What do you want from me, they ask people to test, not to play it as it was a normal season, maybe they should give us level 20 but here we arre, trying to help and give feedback

[calm musk]

feels like we held the line for nothing honestly

[tardy jungle]

lol imagine plate fighters trying to tank and just get hit with 5 fireballs

[willow quest]

Damn. I actually loved adventure mode :(

[ivory tulip]

"Please note that due to the update, game progress on the test server may not be guaranteed." even for the people who leveled and played this wipe its gonna reset again LOL more wipes on the test server than actual game

[main raven]

Slows are your only Barb counter outside of Frost Spear, and it DOES help, although you're probably better off casting some buffs and trying to melee the nerd with a Longsword at that point

[vague kernel]

Ong, it’s an amazing game.
It’s just owned by the wrong people

[fringe inlet]

The big trios change coming soon everyone.
HOLD THE LINE!

[drifting hinge]

Time to cut the line

[swift marlin]

As much as I hate to admit pve mode has brought in a lot more players so I hope it stays but it's made more challenging to encourage people for HR

[mellow kraken]

LF bbw pawg dungeon bunny girlfriend to queue and discuss the game during duos with tonight - - serious inquiries only

[calm musk]

imagine having the wipes greateast add on being PvE mode, and them REMOVING IT NEXT WIPE, W IM as always pretty useful patches they make

[potent canopy]

Give us 15v15 battleground with king of the hill and capture the flag

[frigid tundra]

just got 2 of my friends to buy the game too lol they dont even know

[ivory tulip]

yes exactly testing so why is the loot and stuff the same as a normal game? you gotta be playing fulltime on the test server to progress at all. You even have to redo all the quests every season

[main raven]

You can't even learn the boss in PvP because its dead within two minutes from players wearing gear so insane you wouldn't see it even in HR

[lime pine]

Currently many class is relying on random modifier to even be playable, like casters and rogue with their true/add damage, they haven't changed anything about the class, and wanted to test the removal of random modifyer? What can you actually test in this stage???

[old egret]

Don't tell them yet

[radiant mortar]

Would've loved if pve mode was something you train or quest on, but can't make profits of, would've been perfect to get the hang of pve in all modes and not get slaughtered while questing

[winged dirge]

[wicked lynx]

if they get rid of pve i'll just uninstall cause i'm a casual player

[shell bison]

XDDDD

[main raven]

Removal of random modifiers is honestly one of the best things I've ever heard

[pine tundra]

This game is digging its' own fucking grave.

[calm musk]

it probably is sadly tho, cant find any other game that is worth playing like DnD but IM is so much BS

[mortal salmon]

what is random modifers ?

[vague kernel]

Thank frocking GOD I have other games coming out soon
Nightreign anyone?

[timber imp]

TEAM GAME ERA AHHHHHHHH

[swift marlin]

Chill guys it's all a part of the vision

[lime pine]

It is for some class, but I feel like this should be more thought out, instead SDF made this change like every other change they did in the past, just implement it without any thought behind it.

[inner marsh]

I mean you could play Dominions 6

[autumn jacinth]

I feel the next big extraction game will take a majority of this player base

[main raven]

The random attributes on gear; the stuff that's in blue text.

Honestly, I'm of the opinion that random modifers create more problems than they solve

[old egret]

The guy who has the vision is blind 💔

[dire heron]

HOLD YOUR BREATH WE ARE GOING UNDER

[tardy jungle]

i just wish he'd commit to the vision instead of this slow burn

[rocky adder]

They just taking old yeller out to the back now huh?

[neat fulcrum]

So this game is dead right ?

[gritty sparrow]

patch 69 pt 2

[willow quest]

I just wanted to learn how to fight the bosses without getting third partied or the entrance camped by teams of rogues and barbarians... Actually enjoyed the collaborative nature of adventure mode, it was the least toxic lobbies I ever encountered, talked to tonnes of people, the matches felt like an actual community effort rather than people shouting slurs or whatever

[grim marlin]

man i want to know what they mean by rolls removed but i cant play test server anyone know what they mean>

[odd folio]

Tell them to refund ASAP

[vague kernel]

I believe it’s gear enchantments

[main raven]

I mean, this effectively removes +True damage, movespeed rolls, and +All.

Sure, its probably not how I would've done it, but I'll take it at this point LMAO

[vast beacon]

the random bonus stats on items

[radiant mortar]

this, bossing was the big thing for me, questing was also nice without having to double check every damn door

[pine tundra]

genuinely this game is dying. We REJOICED at a lackluster, shitty way to play where you dont need to fight players and now even that is gone. Get your steam reviews ready, im uninstalling as we speak

[potent canopy]

We about to get our shit rocked by pve boys

[lime pine]

Guys I don't think they are removing PvE, they didn't include PvE in test server because they want people to fight instead of grinding in PvE.

[north fable]

There was no line to hold ever since sdf realised his vision, however blurry his eyes were to this game

[swift marlin]

Water map soon guys with new fish race with +69 swim speed

[main raven]

Honestly PvE might be gone next season, and I want it gone anyway

[calm musk]

sure imagine, u go in the dungeons for what? Loot and Fights. And u open chests kill bosses gith players, to get? ITEMS, for what? Getting stronger. Sudenly you go in the dungeons, first spellbook you find is Goat, second one is also Goat why? theyre exaclty the same. Them u go in 4 runs u have 20 sets stacked up all BIS gear why? cuz its all the same. U run against a fighter 1v1 matchup and u both have the excat same stats no build difference AT ALL you cant tailor your gameplay anymore and every character has 2 ways max of playing W patch, W dead game

[frigid tundra]

I know this has been said a million times but like whouldnt it be in their best intrest to listen to their community to profit not even so we enjoy the game

[grim marlin]

but is gear changed in any other way the random bonuses are like why i play and than you could not build anything properly what

[mortal salmon]

the game takes out so much shit that could have been polled before it was even coded

[willow quest]

I hope that's actually the case, I was worried there for a moment, thank you for the clarification

[dire heron]

Lol 3000 c lowns in a hour and at 3 am no less

[radiant mortar]

it's funny, they can't get blocking/desync/whatever hitbox right but they gon do swimming, game is gonna explode

[main raven]

Armor has stats on it, you know? Weapons would be fairly simple, but what armor you wear would actually matter more than it does now.

Also, I did make it clear that I wouldn't have done this myself, but removing all attributes at least gets rid of the bullshit ones

[calm musk]

its hard, lots of companies trying to make a good extraction but honestly none ive played were half as immersive as darker

[gritty sparrow]

bait and switch of the century

[dense ridge]

Like actually when was the last time something new was actually made in this game

[willow quest]

It's just for the test server, so that's a relief

[radiant mortar]

Monk class running along walls like Ironfist can't wait

[swift marlin]

Its guna be a battle pass exclusive too

[frigid tundra]

fr im stuck rubberbanding 24/7 and but we out here making it trio only

[autumn jacinth]

Isn't bungie making an extraction I'm def playing that when it comes out

[calm musk]

yes, and theres always been armor wich is greatly outshined by other, for example would u ever use buttoned leggins? The itens have a meta and this meta is kinda broken by the random stats, that can make a shitty item be better than a meta one (like loose trousers). @autumn jacinth didnt knew they were, whats it name?

[tardy jungle]

desync blocking is such a spit in the face of barbs

[terse steeple]

Been away for almost a year and just had this thought. Shame. Game was something special

[cobalt thicket]

is the maintenance is done guys??

[crisp bolt]

obviously youre not a modern video game company. Tell me, has there ever been a game that didn't take millions of dollars and was community driven that actually made cash? (cough cough, Helldivers) But that is impossible, and we are stupid for recommending that

[high lance]

how do I get access to test server?

[summer cove]

no solo duo hr, rip this game

[barren path]

are they actually removing adventure mode or is it for test server only

[true thicket]

Bro Imma be so pissed if they make hr trios only, I literally won't play

[main raven]

Buttoned Leggings are designed for Sorcs and possibly Bards, since Sorcs want the Cooldown Reduction and Bard songs scale from RES

[opal dust]

Chat, is this real?

[radiant mortar]

probably not included in test servers that's all hopium copium

[lime pine]

tbh, so less people can reliably exploit this, they should just ban the people doing. It's a known bug, just don't exploit it like any other bugs in the game.

[calm musk]

that being said name 1 bard who actively uses bardic pants

[dense ridge]

Yeah i mean, I just don't get it. How does such a transcendental downfall even happen

[frigid tundra]

you right but they made the game ftp so either its like not a cash grab or they know sum we dont

[main raven]

I think my guy is actually wearing them right now lmao

[autumn jacinth]

It's kinda funny it's like the devs started a fire and they continue to feed it with every announcement this chat has been going crazy since they removed solo duos

[vast beacon]

yes i think it means that your build would just have to be based off the base stats of the different armor pieces

[lime pine]

def not, impact power/resistant is a game mechanic, desync block is not

[summer cove]

they just keep making worse decisions too its nuts

[tardy jungle]

eh players do it on accident, so no ban just fix it

[blissful vigil]

are there gear score lobbies in high roller or can a person with one green piece be matched with bis?

[late vector]

the devs just want the game to fail atp

[radiant mortar]

green vs bis

[terse steeple]

Unfortunately they cut corners and Nexon took a lot of wind out of their sales. Downward spiral since

[rocky adder]

I've been on the fence about putting D&D out to pasture. But this is probably the nail in the coffin. No one wants to be forced into trios with random people who don't have the same goals.

[fringe inlet]

@mellow kraken did you find your dungeon princess?

[dense ridge]

Why does no gaming company learn from Fortnite? If u keep releasing new content, not even mattering on how good it actually is, people will play. We have played a ton of bad games, js give us something

[blissful vigil]

why tf are they doing this to the game i genuinely loved it and when i get back from college to start playing again its absolute ass

[wise shore]

if they add no fill back on trios wouldn't it just allow ratting again

[autumn jacinth]

Fr, I don't play games much but darker and darker so if it dies I might be done gaming honestly lol until the next chill extraction game catches my interest

[calm musk]

i do understand where your point comes from but game needs 3000 more character depth to remove itens depth in my opnion removing random modifiers is just a stupid mistake, theyre doing it just cuz they never done and they can say its different from tweaking small stats in the end its just the same, theyre stalling with fake news so we dont get upset the game devs are not actually developing anything

[main raven]

ratting with extra steps, except now you die for sure if a trio finds you lmao

[inner marsh]

Fornite sucks for this form of costumer.

[summer cove]

ive also been on the fence but yeah this might be it

[swift marlin]

I love playing pve when I get burnt out in HR especially when I Wana test kits

[high lance]

what's the difference between this "test server" and the normal server?

[dense ridge]

Wdym

[calm musk]

fells pretty much the same, and honestly this would be probably the better path for my life LOL and i belive for a lot of addicts here

[safe glade]

I used to play duos with my friend. Now I suddenly find myself with a lot of free time to be on discord

[grizzled apex]

well, at least arena will always be oppen now

[main raven]

I'm actually down for this test because we literally haven't done this before, IIRC.

We HAVE reworked the queues about 17 times though lmao

[tardy jungle]

only on test

[swift marlin]

Only in test server lol

[radiant mortar]

on paper it should be for testing changes without locking it in live, but who knows

[lofty field]

Is playing with randoms so bad?

[drowsy gorge]

Depends. It can be and sometimes you get lucky

[stoic finch]

yes

[gritty sparrow]

incredibly. in any game.

[high lance]

So we should be allowed to choose in which one we want to join, correct?

[autumn jacinth]

Maybe it's time for us to go outside and become members of society once again

[tardy jungle]

not whites, but in hr yes it will be awful

[swift marlin]

Depends on the randoms

[dusky spruce]

Imagine deploying a test version that simply removes features and assuming people will want to use it

[inner marsh]

The costumer base is men in their 30s with a reasonable attention Span and hopefully a part time job if not full time

As such fortnite models which heavily relly on kid whales to sustain a high production rate are not viable

It's the reason why games like drg cater to the older demographic that remains loyal rather than the younger one that will play whatever has new content

[midnight nebula]

Free art idea : thief tries to mug a sorcerer opening a chest and the sorcerer turns around and hits him with a firefrost spear while doing the Gojo pose and the Thief is Toji

[autumn jacinth]

Fr the addiction runs deep

[radiant mortar]

as in which server to play ? or

[main raven]

Earlier today I did a random Squire match on GC, and we had a Rogue who started stabbing our Lock until the Lock killed him with a sliver of HP left.

I went to downvote him later only to see his name was "GetBannedForTK" meaning he wasn't actually teamkilling; he was just damaging his teammates to bait them into killing him so HE can punish them afterwards.

So yes, random trios is a bad idea lmao

[high lance]

which server to play, yes

[radiant mortar]

yes you can choose

[high lance]

Where can I change it? I've never found any option in the game

[untold plume]

The only thing I'd be understanding for removing random modifiers is removing the random aspect from the rolls range it can get, like 0,5% to 2%, becoming a flat 1%.

[radiant mortar]

i have the blacksmith launcher i can choose there, i don't know how it works on steam

[high lance]

we probable dont have it on steam, F

[untold plume]

Know IM, it probably doesn't, lol.

[main raven]

Purge Shot annoys me cause I wish it did 15 True Damage PER buff removed, so if I shot a Bard with a Crossbow I'd just kill him instantly lmao

[drowsy gorge]

Well yea playing with randos in HR is horrific

[vast beacon]

i was just thinking about this. it would be nice if the percents were flat

[safe glade]

Sheesh, you're not wrong. Dark and Darker is the only game I've really been playing lately and It is hitting summer time

[high lance]

do I need to buy the game again if I want to play it using the blacksmith launcher?

[sterile wraith]

Ok let me hazard a wild guess. SDF pushed a change to Test server (removing random modifiers) and everyone will say its shit and makes the game unfun. That change will be pushed to the live servers anyway.

[zinc sparrow]

Unfortunately, we are unable to support the test server on Steam at this time.
It is something we can't help for now, but will do when it is possible.
We would really appreciate anyone who has access, to join the tests, it is very important for the future of the game

[calm musk]

tahts kinda of my point. What makes DnD bad? My opnion is lack of consistency across the changes in each patch wipe, lack of vision of what the game will become, lack of UI/UX improvements and lack of new content (be it maps, chars, events etc). What the game has so far? 100+ patchs that tweaks small features in the game to a point they dont even make a change anymore (i mean they do but everyone has already tried every change so they kinda dont) instead of making a solid structure like there already were many times (chars + item balance is what i mean on solid structure) and going upwards from there, the game NEVER grows it only reformulates itself and this sucks, no one wanna keep playing with the same lego pieces for 3 years. We want NEW things and EXCITING things, remove random modifiers? 0 exciting brings 0 value to the community and/or game. If they made 1 patch out of every 3 like this ok, i would understand. But its like 1 patch out of 10 that has news and the other 9 are just small adjustments they will probably roll back in no time. Its just like making sand castles it may be nice the first time or the first 10 times, but once u realize u are doing the same loop over and over again it just looses its purpose

[radiant mortar]

i'm sorry i don't really know, although i don't think so no

[high lance]

thanks for answering

[calm musk]

what future? with recent patches the games future is being cut short by you guys

[main raven]

Yeah, we've been going in a circle for the last year or so. I know what you mean

[olive light]

What future? 💀

[crystal mesa]

Getting server error everytime I boot it up.

[wise shore]

LMAO

[high lance]

Please keep it up so my hope of having fun with this game is not in vain

[tired maple]

It's over man. My friends and I are out

[calm musk]

atm you might have , they supported account switch a while back but now i think u either have blacksmith or steam period

[tardy jungle]

not joining the tests lmao, theres nothing to test over there except rando queue

[shut timber]

A couple months and this game will be where marauders is

[main raven]

How do you even play the test server? Do you have to play through Blacksmith?

[violet garnet]

Devs are murderers of their own game whod expect lol

[tardy jungle]

yep

[radiant mortar]

that's a shame, whatever happened to epic games accounts ? deleted?

[harsh coral]

who knows @main raven this game is ass

[main raven]

fuck me then

[fringe cliff]

How are you going to get any results then? Majority of players do not like removing all modifiers and even less people will use the server (since the migration to steam). I feel like its just an excuse to push it to live after saying "we tried to test it but nobody was on the server". Wouldnt it be smarter to fix the steam issue first to get a bigger population for better test results?

[viral storm]

What does random modifiers from items have been removed mean? Im confused

[misty quail]

is test server back up yet?

[tardy jungle]

its fine, the only thing test server has is just shittier drop rates and rando que

[calm musk]

yup , they can make 10 patches with small tweaks cant make 1 to proper put test serves to work. They say u can move your blacksmith acc to steam, dont tell you youll lose the only advantge of being a founder wich is test server LoL. @radiant mortar epi acc porb still exists just like steam, all tho i never even logged in epic to know, if they arent in epic games anymore they might have done some time before to people switch accs but i belive they wouldnt just delete accs like that, as bad as the devs are, theyre not meanaces theyre just dumb when it comes to caring for their game

[edgy ravine]

so no more solos?

[normal pendant]

the fuck why is adventure mode being removed???

[cloud glen]

That’s on the test server only

[noble hemlock]

It means remove all item rolls. Nothing on items but base. Yes you heard that right, this is how stupid they are lmfao.

[sterile wraith]

ok guys its the TEST server patch relax for the next week ok? adv more or duo and solos is still in the game for the time being. For now at least

[viral storm]

That cant be real right

[noble hemlock]

Oh, its real. I think they are killing game on purpose and cashing out, only explanation. Games probably not profitable anymore.

[viral storm]

Damn. I just recently got into this game too ☹️

[tardy jungle]

players left in troves last time they did 69, so lets put this game to rest and give us 69 v2

[edgy ravine]

i’m confused on what is going on tbh. So all those perfectly rolled items I have don’t matter anymore?😂

[cloud glen]

That’s only on the test server, when it comes to live we can yell about it

[noble hemlock]

"Gear gap" bro. They want everyone in squire lmfao.

[oblique rover]

I love how many people predicted this. They do a banger patch in the direction the community loved and then they do two steps back with patches the community dislike. Personally I'll just wait until the roll them back and play next season.

[rare sand]

SDF VISION Better idea if you want the future of this game ot continue, reinstall solos.

[edgy ravine]

wtf is the point of farming bosses and pvp then😭

[noble hemlock]

Apparently a 1 hour player should beat a 10,000 hour player. VISION. So they just can the game.

[sterile wraith]

sdf was mad that he needs to get some gold first before going high roller

[cobalt coral]

Dude dont listen to him its only on the test server wont affect you at all

[versed dew]

@zinc sparrow @glad thunder Will the removal of the pve mode be applied on live servers ? I feel we need some explanations if you remove it from the game

[violet garnet]

way more than 2 steps back lol

[shut timber]

Holy fuck removing item rolls 😝. We all need to wake the fuck up and smell the roses here, sdf is stringing us the fuck along he knows the games done, wake up and uninstall already

[north fable]

We are 100 steps back at this pont

[late venture]

The test server that is showing changes SDF actively admits to wanting to push to the live game xd

[wise shore]

If they want a lot of people to access the test server, why not put it on Steam through the Betas tab on properties, like every other game?

[calm musk]

oh boy, youre so naive if you think any kinda of explaining is ever done

[noble hemlock]

Someone, a developer, please start up a DaD reboot game or something. Anything. Ill donate.

[violet garnet]

facts how far can we go lol

[olive light]

Almost like the devs typed into chatGPT: How to kill the game speed run any %? And got these updates as a result

[misty mango]

pls devs, sell DaD to other people

[violet garnet]

just sell the game to microsoft ez death lol

[calm musk]

thats actually the smartest idea ngl, if the community did a crowd funding we could EASILY develop DnD 2.0 make it way better and well shit on sdfs face i gueess

[gusty pelican]

TURN ON THE TEST SERVER DAMN IT

[summer cove]

slowly watching something i have put nearly a thousand hours into become such a mess with minimal input from the community being heard is disheartening. After the most recent 3 patches/hot fixes i think I am finally throwing in the towel of dreams. The concept and world building was quite immersive but the constant neglect of the community and overall poor choices pulling this company forward can no longer be ignored. Ill be attempting to rescind my purchase, deleting the game and leaving a review on steam hoping that maybe this game or its successor will take some grains of input into their future decisions. Thanks for the game sdf, my brother and i had countless hours of fun together but now that we cant even duo queue any more and the state of the dungeon. dark and darker just isn’t worth it anymore, and to think only a year ago i felt like a kid getting his first xbox with Skyrim included. Sad times.

[timber imp]

Why we getting league of legends treatment how much you want us to tilt at each other? 😭

[swift marlin]

If they remove pve they are going to lose a large amount of players, new players and future players who want to learn

[north fable]

While other games extend the path forward to achieve greater heights , sdf is paving the path backward to see how far this game can hold the line b4 it failes

[mint compass]

Random modifiers have been removed from items.
Please no

[main sonnet]

Is the test server available to steam only users?

[wanton remnant]

boom-boom, hotfix-update

[last stump]

coin pouches just got like 200 gold cheaper after the update

[edgy ravine]

like what was the point of perfectly rolling all my items 😂

[violet garnet]

Just sell the game to microsoft ez death lets start the trend lol

[main sonnet]

Yeah, I'm really hoping its not there just because its not needed on test server.

[haughty latch]

SDF just mental boomed

[olive light]

Next update they will remove all healing items from the game to make it more hardcore dungeon experience, enjoy! 😉

[mint compass]

[main sonnet]

SO hardcore.

[violet garnet]

#DaDMicrosoft

[sterile wraith]

removing modifiers is not about making the game more hadrcore, its the opposite actually

[flat pelican]

Good changes always come with horrible changes as well, arena open all the time is amazing imo, removing solo/duo ... is something we all have to get used to if sdf doesnt change it back under pressure

[calm musk]

I really hope someone on reddit start a crowd funding to make DnD 2.0, honestly the game is basically the same as when EA came out so it shouldnt even take that long to get a Minium viable product out of it

[wise shore]

Yeah I hope so too
but im pretty sure SDF hates PVE mode

[nova brook]

whats the meaning of random modifiers ?

[main sonnet]

Couldn't they have just like, made good changes only tho?

[zinc sparrow]

Yes, we would like to make the difference in item grade clear with a more (What you see is what you get) approach to PvP.

[sterile wraith]

he said he does, in his "cooking" channel

[violet garnet]

#DaDMicrosoft

[next panther]

im kinda ok with solo and duo getting removed i actually really enjoyed the forced coop in the older versions because you were forced to adapt on the fly to your team and also got the chance to make new friends

[flat pelican]

@glad thunder please add polls

[gray verge]

wait, so do I lose my Duo Demigod rank because the mode is gone from HR now? LOL

[calm musk]

arena open all the time, they take a game meant to be the exact opposite direction of games like CS Valorant and make a mode that u can play CS Valorant inside DnD fucking genius

[fringe inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/corey-coreytonge-corey-tonge-gaming-gamer-gif-14176090887801084383

[swift marlin]

Crazy to hate something that helps player count grow the most

[violet garnet]

#DaDMicrosoft

[haughty latch]

lmao this game is FRIED. 2k player count inc

[trail flicker]

hahahahahahah

[main sonnet]

Can you answer on whether or not PvE is being removed on test server just because its not needed or because its being removed potentially from the main game?

[next panther]

nah your rewards are account bound so they shouldnt vanish

[calm musk]

not sure sdf likes hes game bro.

[sterile wraith]

but building your own build is fun! Gearing items the way you want to build it is the fun part of the game! I spend 8h afk during my working hours with the market open on my 2nd monitor and collect perfect gear for my character. I love this

[potent widget]

the one thing that is unique bout the game u want to remove? How out of touch are u guys....

[gray verge]

here's hoping 🙏🏼

[south spear]

Just give us guns so we can be like tarkov atleast sdf would be pleased...

[versed dew]

@zinc sparrow Could I get an answer ? #game-discussion message

[cobalt coral]

God help them if they want to try something out..

[half kernel]

Be me, not playing much this wipe cuz 330ms meta is garbage.
--login to play a few solo rounds to get some season rank
--buy kit for HR solo
--no solo queue anymore
--only trios, guess the devs listened to ret@rded streamers again.
--check patch notes... lower artifact spawns... yeah that was the problem
--Close Game.

[vast beacon]

tarkov is the worst game i ever made the mistake of purchasing

[sinful gull]

Approximately how long will this game be in Early Access?
“We expect the game to be in Early Access for approximately 12 to 24 months.” just putting it out there if you are defend doing a 180, 2+years into development after charging 30$ plus p2w

[loud horizon]

you can still do solo in HR tho

[next panther]

arc raiders looks kinda fun though

[static mauve]

Sdf we tested no modifiers before and everyone hated it... It just makes the loot boring af

[versed dew]

artifacts were so cheap they were buyable on the market it's nothing to be surprised they lowers spawn rate

[naive temple]

Please don’t take any more modes away

[versed canyon]

Are there any thoughts on preserving the original game via a separate game mode in the future?

[zinc sparrow]

Yes we totally understand, so we would like the items themselves to have identities rather than everything being random.
Our goal is to make building possible based on items, and not random attributes.
We still want looting to have a clear purpose, but we don't want items to be so unpredictable.

[next panther]

i know what i said is a little bit of a hot take but XD im kinda genuine that it was fun

[radiant mortar]

no not again please

[north fable]

Most probably forever, cuz they can make changes after changes without saying that a certain feature is the final product

[sterile wraith]

hey I hate to say it but gambling is fun, checking the item that you rolled from boss whether its crap or worth your entire bank is the fun part of killing the boss

[swift marlin]

Yeah I hitting demi felt like a second job when there's full plate 330ms with weapons out running around now lol

[half kernel]

how???

[calm musk]

Its crazy how devs respond to random comments, but almost NEVER post a statment some game direction, very very few posts directed to the general community, explaining changes or anything like this, giving a bit of clarity about directions, no they just reply random coments as they see fit, join random streams as they see fit, where is IM figure? Where is IM way of talking to us? IM seems to have 0 hold of their community, 0 in touch @zinc sparrow i really wonder why it is so hard for you guys to be in touch and to communicate i do realize its been having some trials trought more Q&A and live appearences but is it really that hard to make a text and post it when u have patches with such intense bakclash?

[stray yacht]

devs cutting server cost gutting the game. It is what it is guess Nexon won

[next panther]

Honestly im kinda down to try it nothing wrong with testing something to see if it works

[stark oracle]

youre gonna lose bro. quit trying

[stray python]

Are there plans to incentivize playing in the test server...? U know that the last time nobody played there because there was not enough incentives to. Isnt it just going to flop exactly like last time if its implemented in the same way...?

[main sonnet]

@zinc sparrow As a PvE mode player, what should I expect in the future? Is the mode being removed from the main game too eventually?

[timber imp]

I'm gonna int your games gg

[grizzled apex]

SDF:
removes normal solo/duo
removes HR solo/duo
removes Arena
removes HR trio
removes game
markets DnD 2.0

[dire heron]

Lol ill check back in a week and see how the hellscape is lookin

[wooden fulcrum]

I don't remember buying a battle royale. Gear is your game.

[quasi tangle]

xDD

[wanton otter]

how test server?

[wise shore]

That water map better be the best map ive ever played for them to remove all the fun aspects of the game

[sinful gull]

Maybe they can do that to you. But not to me, they get the steam review, i quit ..the whole 9 yards, this game will die fast if they dont respect customers.

[deft geyser]

Facts

[main sonnet]

I agree, test server is for trying stuff, so no random modifiers is fine with me too to try. Why not? Maybe it'll work. Probably it won't but maybe it will. It's just the test server after all ... for now

[fiery pilot]

You (or we) already did test it with patch 69 which was quickly reverted

[quasi tangle]

Can't believe SDF is already trying to remove PvE, like it just got here

[radiant mortar]

2 years clean off that game, i won't survive another league treatment

[versed canyon]

I think Ironmace greatly underestimates the value the random modifier gives their product, and it's importance for the games success as a separate entity from it's competitors.

[wanton otter]

ppl going for red names huh.?

[loud horizon]

removing random modifiers on items could be fine, if you make each item have its own identity sure, but this is a huge fundamental change that will require massive balance changes

[vast beacon]

is it insane that i kinda fw this idea. im prolly in the minority but having cool and rare items because the actual item is cool and rare and not because it has a random marginal stat increase sounds potentially fun. its still a gamble, too.

[edgy ravine]

so are artifacts gonna be the only thing worth buying now?😭

[timber imp]

its a team game now :DDDD now we just need e girl skins and we be good

[quasi tangle]

But what are the chances that happens

[winter crown]

adding maps and taking away queues seem counter productive already too many adding another map just increses q count once more

[brave pulsar]

Has there ever been a patch that didn't have this much crying?

[main sonnet]

Yes

[pastel surge]

Nobody cried about patch 69.

[obtuse shuttle]

that explains how you go from 100 to 10k players

[zinc sparrow]

We don't underestimate it, but it has very clear down sides as well.

[stray python]

I think its a good idea too. But as of now all theyre doing is removing rolls, not giving items uniqueness.

[calm musk]

first months of EA no patches had winning lol, then they started doing the same patches in loops and breaking the game

[wooden fulcrum]

Like 90% of the player base did actually

[gritty sparrow]

bait and switch

[north fable]

Im not saying i like how i am treated too, this game is a roller coaster of changes , which sucks as if sdf is a apostle of tzeentch

[pastel surge]

Nah, everyone loved it. Sdf remembers

[cloud sun]

L rage bait

[fiery pilot]

I mean everything was decent until move speed bonus and additional move speed was available on more gear

[sterile wraith]

I'd say that removing random modifiers would kill the game faster than removing solos and duos

[versed canyon]

I'd love to be wrong. Honestly.

[obtuse shuttle]

maybe you should offer refunds now that you're removing solo and cudcking half ur playerbase

[main sonnet]

I really just want to know what to expect as a PvE mode player. Is the mode I play being removed?

[mellow kraken]

So whats the point of the goblin caves map if its only trio. It was literally made and designed for solos

[royal bison]

Do I need the cursed bell for duo hr gk?

[fiery pilot]

no

[wooden fulcrum]

3x3 gc was. 5x5 was not.

[radiant mortar]

no, bosses don't require summoning items anymore

[fringe inlet]

Just click "Do not fill" and quit the crying.
Take the 1v3 on the chin and Hold The Line

[edgy ravine]

@zinc sparrow sorry i’m confused on this patch. So the base stats are going to be the same in every piece of clothing and won’t give us random attributes anymore? So kind of the system you already have with the higher the rarity the higher strength/dex/agi/etc?

[quasi tangle]

Ayo

[brave oriole]

They should remove autofill trust in the process

[loud horizon]

but i ask the clear question, why ever introduce gemming if this was the idea?, like genuinely just pick a direction and all in. We are going in circles with these ideas. we introduce changes, then decide to go in another direction completely.

[violet garnet]

#DaDMicrosoft

[quick leaf]

Is the test server still down? been trying to log into it since the ping came out

[winter crown]

you get paid to say some stupid shit like that

[sinful gull]

What you see is 1 man in charge of everything. And that person barely plays the game. The maps are never balanced from a economy POV so people allways gonna play the 1-2 best yielding maps, regardless.. Currently Ruins with reds is just so much more safer than other maps for example. The idea of removing ques over maps is just wild..

[tired maple]

Pfp checks out

[gritty sparrow]

find legendary helmet
it only makes you 3% stronger than a common helmet

[calm musk]

do you realize your anwsers could be a small text for ALL the community not only the ones in chat ATM? you could literally just state our vision is X and people even if didnt agree would at least UNDERSTAND, why things are done, IM biggest mistake is to treat the costumers like poop and not like gold. Its very sad to have to reply to your messages in general chat, and say things you WANT to be said to even have a chance of a reply from you instead of having someone to actually TALK to the community

[vast beacon]

yes i agree

[quasi tangle]

Peak gameplay honestly

[rapid vapor]

I understand what you mean since the problem with random modifiers is it makes 2 items of the same rarity have two totally different tiers of power. But has your team considered how you would go about giving items identities and how those identities evolve per rarity?

Static stats are great for keeping power stable, but how far will these identities go? Like will we see crystal balls adding extra projectiles to projectile spells or will we see something like spell books just get more casting speed bonus over other casting tools?

[grim sand]

I really cant see the reason why sdf is so obsessed with the idea of trio only

[vestal urchin]

So is the plan to make different grades of armour visually distinct? That way you can much easier tell what you're up against?

[zinc sparrow]

I can't say yes or no for sure, but I also see the advantages offering PvE has for the game.
The decision for removing it is not certain, but it is possible it will be.

[steel juniper]

why not just keep arena open in the normal game lol

[slim glen]

GUA THIS MEN KILLING THE GAME

[wise shore]

that 3% is going crz tho

[violet garnet]

#DaDMicrosoft

[shell flicker]

Ahhh and all of a sudden it becomes clear why they messed so badly with the rolls this wipe, they thought is we make everyone pissed about being able to get +4all +4true damage and +movespeed on everything, then people won't mind losing the rolls on gear, nice bait and switch tactics 👌🏽

[pastel surge]

Everyone here loves him, so he has an easy time finding groups.

[main sonnet]

Thanks, appreciate the candid response.

[deft geyser]

Y’all boys really don’t want any new players do ya

[mellow kraken]

no

[quasi tangle]

Sadge

[slim glen]

really remove the adventure, this game dead soon

[grim sand]

o7

[latent quiver]

@zinc sparrow I actually like the idea of getting rid of random modifiers. Then you can let us stack identical items in the stash like runescape too please, then you dont have to build stash sorting. My stash rolled back during this update and I lost an artifact and chest which is pretty bad inventory management, so just rework it completely. Maybe I'll be back next season.

[violet garnet]

#DaDMicrosoft

[zinc sparrow]

While also making different grades of armor be clearly better without the need for so much randomness.

[north fable]

So we came all the way here for a new mode , just for it to be possibly removed , the one thing you introduced this wipe,

[swift marlin]

Pve literally was the only thing maintaining the playerbase

[wooden fulcrum]

Mfw dev time is used to go in circles once again, and content is still months/years behind

[neat token]

@zinc sparrow hi graysun. im downloading test server now. can we still socket modifiers even though random modifiers are gone. Or is the socket system gone?

[cobalt coral]

Its only on the test server so they can try it aouty and see. I know everyone is acting like its live now and the world has ended and SDF has personaly spit in there mouth.

[edgy ravine]

I do kind of get the random attribute removal. I think it’s dumb that you can get useless stats like debuff duration on a weapon. I mean even today I found a +11 additional move speed drum 😂 I understand that I guess i’m just confused on how it’s going to work.

[main sonnet]

Is the test server available through steam?

[stray python]

@zinc sparrow I think its really important for u guys to understand that nobody wants to play on the test servers when theres 0 incentives to. Last time, u ended up disregarding the test servers because nobody would play on there, but ppl need a reason to play on the "fake" version of the game

[slim glen]

ty for killing the low player base in your game, you are awesome

[mellow kraken]

@zinc sparrow With all the statistics being leaked in some random streamers chat from SDF, how does your company plan the weather the upcoming storm? Seems like you're alienating atleast 60% of the player-base, can you expect Ironmace to push out content updates more frequently with the potential upcoming player loss tsunami?

[violet garnet]

Everything unique to your game is gone i swear this was runescape at this point

[soft knoll]

Is it true that solos will get removed?

[sinful gull]

bro, he will revert this just cause he is sick of getting teamkilled... oh no I forgot.. he doesnt play the game..

[vestal urchin]

I see. This makes more sense, having base gear without modifiers be more powerful than current, that way it's more like if you want to run will, you go for certain armour pieces, instead of banking on random stats. That actually makes sense.

[edgy ravine]

when do they not freak out about every patch 😂

[versed canyon]

It really sucks seeing the game I liked, the random modifier and solo experience, be taken away from me. Hopefully the game is still fun to play and I can enjoy it differently, but I'm definitely coming out of this test patch at a loss on my experience. Firmly disapointing.

[solemn fossil]

honestly removing gear mods is the biggest w from these patch notes, w vision

[slim glen]

well SDF play alone YOUR GAME

[calm musk]

kinda disagree no one ever needed a reason to play LoL test servers, they just want to see new stuff, DnD community is just extra small so it gets very very low pop but there will always be people who want to see the new stuff ahead of the others

[zinc sparrow]

Yes, we are moving for this to be the last "circle" and start big content pushes.

[rapid vapor]

My only real complaint is what they're testing is something that was already tried and hated in the live servers.

[unkempt drift]

Korean DaD players might pull up to SDF's apartment

[gritty sparrow]

we all loved patch 69! it was so fun!

[cunning jolt]

I would love if they didnt remove random modifiers completely but instead drastically reduced the number of different modifiers. I thought last wipe was in a solid spot and im disappointed theyre just doing away with the whole system instead of trying to enhance it. Like the gem changes are great because its a lot easier to obtain good rolls now but what if garbage rolls didnt exist in the first place? Also add goblin merchant back to HR so it doesnt feel like im throwing away my kit if im not running with 20k+ gold

[rapid vine]

Hai Graysun, I missed you.

[sinful gull]

Nah he doesnt tho. He wants his vision just for US.. this isnt even about him. He said he doesnt get to play the game alot and is shit at pvp

[main sonnet]

Not quite though, we tested a gear squish, this sounds different. Sounds like some of the modifiers are being baked into the gear themselves rather than being random

[violet garnet]

whats the point when your killing your game no one wants content they want you to listen

[vast beacon]

right? people are saying “i cant make builds anymore”, but you would just base your build around the pieces of gear themselves, rather than a bonus stat, which is arguably more cool and easy to understand (if done right)

[cobalt coral]

Exactly its probably the reason the game will die is the players and the community they must scare away any new player that looks at trying this game

[edgy ravine]

solos getting remove kinda blows but the random attribute removal I think is really good for the game. I’ve found multiple uniques this wipe with complete useless rolls. Today I found a unique drum with additional move speed 😂

[open flume]

Please allow some of us to access the test server id like to see what you guys are testing

[fringe inlet]

Wheres the guy with the roleplay voice messages?

[swift marlin]

Pve is great when I'm done with HR on like 3 alts, and more kit testing and general chilled gameplay

[sterile wraith]

If your goal is to have clear difference between rarity of items (unlike just one stat difference and assuming no random rolls) to make it easier to gear up and tell the difference between good item and bad item then you should communicate that more clearly. When I read the test patch notes I immidiately got patch 69 flashbacks. It is important that people understand what you have in mind. because this actually makes sense

[zinc sparrow]

You can go make a blacksmith account and get on the test server for free.

[stray python]

Yeah exactly.. "they just wanted to see new stuff"

What new stuff are people going to the test servers for in DaD

[obtuse shuttle]

offer refunds, have some integrity, removing solo isnt just deleting some lines, u have a lot of money u did nothing for 2 years u can take it

[cunning canopy]

The only good thing the game has left is the item sistem and the Gameplay loop that generates. Patch 69 again, you dont learn. All you have to do is make new content and you are wasting time in destroying the BEST part of the game

[trail flicker]

Does sanctuary heal your opponents that walk into it?

[rapid vapor]

There was a very brief patch that had removed random modifiers entirely and it nearly killed the game. Unless I'm misunderstanding something it sounds like they're trying it again

[north fable]

yes

[open flume]

Thank you I had no idea

[clever wolf]

That will be the final straw for many and kill new purchases. It's the only thing that makes me want to stick around trios only, that there's at least a way to get coins for a kit without sweating for hours against buffballs. Ridiculously short sighted.

[vestal urchin]

What's the plan for Uniques in this case? Unique items have their entire identity based around their random modifiers.

[desert wasp]

Don’t remove solo or duo ☹️

[main sonnet]

Ohhhh, interesting, I didn't know that! thanks

[calm musk]

is it ever in IM sight actually engaging with the community? Game had like 1-2 events ever, and honestly it was just insane to have devs/wardens running around the dungeons with loot while people tried to find them. as i said like 4 times there aint 1 single person communitcating with the community in a organized way, dont u think this hurts the game insanely?

[stray yacht]

all that money is gone to Nexon. They aint refunding shit

[sinful gull]

Yeah, I dont blame you at all, dont get me wrong. But the circle 180 thing is what saved you(IM). Should have full commited to hotfix 69 ? You think ud be better off?

[edgy ravine]

yeah i mean i started playing this game about a year ago and didn’t even know about this discord until a couple months in. As soon as i joined i started not having fun focusing on the bad things of the game instead of the fun parts sadly.

[mellow kraken]

@zinc sparrow Are you able to explain ironmaces predatory marketing by having solos and duos and advertising that on steam for the last two years, and then suddenly taking it away? Will refunds be issued?

[obtuse shuttle]

if u steal u pay, not our fault they are thiefs and scammers lol

[zinc sparrow]

We have two events planned for June.
One in-game and one in Discord.

[quick leaf]

Anyone else not able to log into test servers been trying to get on since the ping came out

[shut timber]

Whats the point of green or blue items seriously if you cant use them in commons and you get gear checked by purple and orange items in HR? @zinc sparrow

[rapid vapor]

@zinc sparrow When or if you push removing random modifiers to live will there be the new system to immediately take the place of it? I don't think the community could wait if no items had any sort of modifier other than rarity

[tired maple]

Will the big content pushes immediately be removed in the patch after they're released?

[half kernel]

trying to Queue HR as a solo.... 2 mins and waiting

[tired niche]

While I do know balancing is difficult, Idk how big your team is but maybe attempting to dedicate one or two people to learning the meta and to make chances when necessary hopefully help in reducing the amount of items/perks that keep getting nerfed and buffed constantly.

[obtuse shuttle]

this solo rugpull they're doing is basically legal on steam cuz its early access, they could transform the game into hello kitty online tomorrow and it would be fair game but dog behavior

[unreal island]

Please allow refunds if you do remove pve mode I convinced alot of people to play because of it

[grim sand]

when r we getting normal duos and trio back

[solemn fossil]

@zinc sparrow if gear mods are likely being removed, should we be looking forward to skill trees for next season to add a bit more customization and progression in return? or no eta on that yet

[lament oak]

why do they hate their game </3

[gaunt swan]

Please sdf change it back like 3 wipes ago. I am probably done with the game what happened to it. Ur player count is 4000 ur going under fast my guy

[clever wolf]

We've heard all the content promises before. And all we've had is content removal. It's such blatant balls 🤣

[calm musk]

thats 100% never going to heappen lol

[gritty sparrow]

2028

[mellow kraken]

No ETA. just axe spec being tuned back to 3 damage

[vivid pawn]

So this dumb trogolodyte can “test” removing adventure mode from the game but not solos

Wow

[swift marlin]

Your right but I work weekends and don't really have access to arena, also again it's about the player base, I want new players to come and learn just make pve more challenging so people will learn and build confidence for HR.

[shell ermine]

What is new content? Any hints or naw @zinc sparrow

[slim glen]

now buy the season pack hahahaha

[stray python]

MY GOAT

[pastel surge]

This soon? Sounds far fetched.

[gritty sparrow]

very good

[sterile wraith]

new season starts with the new map "for sure" this time

[mellow kraken]

Axe spec being tuned again is all you get

[rapid vine]

Probably a skeleton with a straw hat merchant, asking you to find seashells.

[slim glen]

nah this men is a liar

[versed canyon]

You're not gonna like it.

[pastel surge]

+3 all coming back, too.

[clever wolf]

Don't do this to yourself mate 😂

[quaint anvil]

graysun typing gg

[delicate finch]

The ppl that was defending the dlc are u guys here ????

[obtuse bison]

finally ptr updated thank god

[harsh coral]

@shell ermine we got nothing added

[midnight oar]

thanks sdf for sticking it up my arse again

[final finch]

For non Blacksmith users, who wants to play on test server.

1. Download Blacksmith
2. Log IN (Make an acc if need be)
3. Play Test Server

[zinc sparrow]

We already have people dedicated to this, for years.

[paper mist]

new content is you get to chop off your leg and pray to god it regrows , big

[undone fossil]

Any news on Talent Tree king? Been believing and excited for Talent Tree since playtest 2 ❤️

Devs have been locking in boys trust, good things are coming HOLD THE LINE

[rapid vapor]

You wouldn't happen to know if they intend to add a beta branch to steam do you

[slim glen]

Neither SDF knows what to do with the game, resign or sell it... because it is not clear what it wants and to top it all off, it does not listen to anyone, so let it play alone and that's it.

[final finch]

no clue, thats more of @zinc sparrow question

[winter crown]

Get rid of continuous dungeons no one likes it

[sinful gull]

Yeah, but they have no say in anything sdf decides lol

[mellow kraken]

How many more times can we see axe spec tuning before content release since y'all are fans of pulling rugs from the players feet

[vivid pawn]

Imagine waiting till you burn the bridges with 80% of your players to use the test server

[zinc sparrow]

A talent tree is much more viable with the removal of random modifiers.

[stray python]

Oh HEEELLL noo...

[vestal urchin]

Multiple questions posed by the removal of random modifiers:

• What plans are there for gem socketing? That system is reliant on random modifiers. Would one be able to ADD modifiers to gear?

• How are unique rarity items going to be handled? Merely a step between Legendary & Artifact stat wise, or will they retain their random modifiers?

[wooden fulcrum]

Who's ready to play their favorite battle royale?

[rapid vine]

Yay

[quaint anvil]

please dont reply to troll messages. bro please for the love of god keep arena perma after u see these tests. love the game and really only play for arena but work weekends. love u

[cunning canopy]

@shell ermine Game is dead, how does loosing your job feel?

[rapid vapor]

@zinc sparrow Do you know if you intend to add future test server stuff to a beta branch on steam?

[swift marlin]

Give us large scale arena If your going to cut off player base and pve, another way to save the playerbase

[hoary gyro]

actually huge W

[main sonnet]

Arena is a great mode, and I pretty much just played PvE, High roller solos, and Arena.

[mellow kraken]

They'll delete the goldsmith too, if random modifiers are gone hes gone.

[calm musk]

thats hardly the problem, they lack organization more than anything, i mean if they had people watching balance for years, id say they never had a person in charge of making a game timeline and actually planning ahead on where the game is going we have SDF maybe? but we all know how its going

[whole minnow]

It’s ridiculous how they handle this game, they just killed it in 2 patches.

[shell ermine]

@zinc sparrow 🙏

[narrow relic]

Losing*

[sterile wraith]

its far from dead, but yeah this season wasn't good

[slim glen]

Something we'll never see at this rate, like the quiver or the backpacks. Sorry, but after two years, people are burned out.

[loud solar]

So we gonna have a new way to have stats like magical healing?

[vivid pawn]

Next announcement : we’ve decided to discontinue arena for the vision(sry wrong person)

[versed dew]

So we had no announcement that test server is available for everyone ? Wasn't it only playable for Hold the Line users ?

[undone fossil]

HUGE W I JUST GOT HYPE W IRONMACE W GRAYSUN

[midnight oar]

@wraith finch reply to my dm

[hoary gyro]

yall a bunch of downers, gotta take 2 steps back to make a big leap forward

[cunning canopy]

Wait for next patch

[calm musk]

bro i belive graysun is really trying but theres like 100 messages per sec for him in a general chat were all messages just keep geeting lost this might be the least effective way to communicate ever by IM u prob willhave to ask more 3 times to get anwser

[stray python]

Anugy... 💔

[mellow kraken]

Idk how solos and duos being removed is a big leap forward

[cunning jolt]

nah its always tiny step forward two leaps back

[pastel surge]

In-game competitive Minesweeper league. But it will be called Ranger Trap Sweeper to avoid copyright infringement.

[delicate finch]

@shell ermine only play this game to get fine shyt and he already did he got miss y4mi

[open basalt]

removing adventure mode?

[north fable]

Right, we have been taking way tooo many 2 steps back, im sure the leap is far and strong

[mellow kraken]

yeah its not a trio game mode, impossible to balance

[half kernel]

9 mins queue

[paper mist]

thats a gross oversimplification, at this point it's more like running a half marathon backwards and then walking 10 feet forwards

[swift marlin]

We gotta be positive guys no toxicity we love playing this game even though the constant changes are numbing

[shut timber]

He cant answer a simple question, what is the point of green and blue items when you cant use them in uncommon and they are null and void in HR

[open basalt]

yikes

[hoary gyro]

agreed

[sinful gull]

Brother if they removed trios would you not be mad? It doesnt work like that you cant claim EA for 3 years and say I do whatever I want when you have people paying and expecting at least the base idea of the game to stay intact.

[kindred coral]

Into a canyon.

[winter crown]

We love the game just not the devs

[rapid vine]

Finally, im hearing a positive message. Too many negatives in general.

[mellow kraken]

I wonder why its negative. Only thousands of players getting their only game mode of enjoyment of a game they love taken away from them with zero warning

[main bison]

what if we remove all game modes and make it a dating sim instead? so @mellow kraken can find his love

[vagrant cliff]

This game is perfect and has nothing wrong with it ❤️

[quaint anvil]

people fail to see if they got rid of random modifiers then we dont need solos and duos anymore. you really could compete with any team then with randoms

[cunning canopy]

Game is dead next patch

[still frigate]

Friends, can anyone tell me my friend’s game was just backed up for a few days, all the progress of things money lvl everything came back a couple of days ago, the high roll lvl was only left

[fringe inlet]

If they loved the game they wouldnt steam review bomb and kick their feet like toddlers

[zinc sparrow]

Things that have already been mentioned in the past, plus more.
Personally, I think if we just went this way from the start the amount of content in the game right now would have been much greater.
It was a tough lesson we had to learn, so I hope we lock in and really prove ourselves to the playerbase.

[edgy ravine]

i mean to be fair they announced it would happen a couple weeks ago

[undone fossil]

society been rewarding people who moan and groan, and unfortunately that extends here.

At the end of the day we are all still here, and I have met some damn amazing people cause of this game.

have some gratitude my brothers, it goes a long way ❤️

[whole minnow]

There is no clear timeline, no proper planning, the game studios decisions are not based on data but rather on whatever they currently feel like.

By now it’s in such a bad state that the only way in my opinion is to add community voting.

[sinful gull]

"we gotta" ..what? F2P players just had all gear removed, they still call it f2p.. IM has removed market slots and sold them back to us.. We gotta start calling them out, not stay positive

[mellow kraken]

So true LF bbw pawg dungeon bunny girlfriend to queue and discuss the game during duos with tonight - - serious inquiries only

[clever wolf]

🤣 It's nothing to do with "balance". It's money. They want to cut back on servers, amd clearly go back to a smaller playerbase since their mobile-lite plans to squeeze money have failed.

[ornate haven]

W ANUGY

[winter crown]

Well I dont know about all that I just give my 2 cents in discord

[quaint anvil]

good response and excited to see the future. thank you

[paper mist]

also sounds extremely boring, simplyfying loot and making it basically arena with an extra step

[neat token]

W

[limber jolt]

Bye bye nolife streamers and gold buyers!

[rapid vine]

Omgeee! He said the slang word! Lock in!

[obtuse shuttle]

yeah but you got money for solo, not for trios

[pastel surge]

Except for like... randoms don't work as well together as dedicated groups. And will team kill to grief. And the biggest one: most people just don't want to deal with randoms lol

[rapid vapor]

@zinc sparrow If we're going back to adding content is there a chance we'll see stuff that seems to have been cut, like more druid forms and warlocks evil eye?

[quaint anvil]

any change is welcome and interesting. doesnt mean the game will be that way forever.

[still frigate]

@zinc sparrow can anyone tell me my friend’s game was just backed up for a few days, all the progress of things money lvl everything came back a couple of days ago, the high roll lvl was only left

[shell ermine]

🙏I literally love this game I know u guys are doing ur best. I believe ❤️

[mellow kraken]

When did they announce it?

[delicate finch]

Guys im sad to inform u that if they don't pull some crazy stuff this game will be dead by the end of the year

[sterile wraith]

Last patch was really good, but the reason it was really good is only because the undid a bad change and allowed everyone to do bosses instead of hiding them behind 1-3k gold paywall.

This wouldnt have happened in the first place if they gave it some thought first. and now there is another bad change on the horizon that will only relieve fans once it is also reverted.

[quaint anvil]

you will be missed but sometimes change is good and just gotta try to keep an open mind

[shut timber]

He hopes they can lock in lmfao yeah and I hope I can fuck kylie jenner aint gonna happen buddy

[dire heron]

Lol better be quick with the content and hope it plugs the holes in this sinking ship

[vestal urchin]

Multiple questions posed by the removal of random modifiers:

• What plans are there for gem socketing? That system is reliant on random modifiers. Would one be able to ADD modifiers to gear

&

• How are unique rarity items going to be handled? Merely a step between Legendary & Artifact stat wise, or will they retain their random modifiers?

[mellow kraken]

How does the leather taste down your gullet lil bro, let me order a side of lube for ya

[shut fiber]

Originally Ice caverns was intended to be the one map without a circle. What are the reasons behind implementing a circle in HR ice caverns when it was supposed to be the one map without a circle?

[pastel surge]

No, no. I have a group. I just can also see it from the other side lol

[paper mist]

I couldn't possible disagree more, alot of changes are totally unwelcome and im sure if you spend 5 seconds thinking you realize that too

[zinc sparrow]

Don't underestimate yourself like that

[rapid vine]

[undone fossil]

LMFAO

[obtuse shuttle]

u need a reality check ur killing the game and scamming ppl

[kindred coral]

People don't want to fight trios to begin with. This isn't Tarkov where you can instantly kill 2 and have a 1 on 1 with the last guy. A decent trio is always going to wreck you.

[vast beacon]

LOL

[shell ermine]

Not to bad hand me that lube tho just in case

[quaint anvil]

game is losing players every day, agree to disagree

[main bison]

graysun i believe in you guys just dont make me lose adventure before i learn all da bosses

[earnest cliff]

I think removing random mods is a great idea, the patch in December was the best the game had felt in ages

[versed dew]

if you guys want people to play on the test server you need to make an announcement that everyone can on blacksmith because people still believe access is limited @zinc sparrow

[half kernel]

waitied for 12 mins in HR queue

[paper mist]

yes and any change that makes that issue worse is unwelcome, lmao

[sinful gull]

The biggest cope is saying goblin caves messed up dev schedule.. People wanted solo back then, NOBODY asked for a seperate map, we hated GC at first still wanted crypts solo. You made GC, it was IM´s idea to make money. Now SDF blames solo players for no content lol

[fringe inlet]

Lock in neck beards and get in the damn dungeons

[shell ermine]

LOL

[edgy ravine]

i mean it’s always been there goal to make it a trios game, they have said before they wanted a low player base to keep up with what the community wants. But also I think it may have been last week in the announcements they said they were going to be getting rid of solos and duos towards the end of wipe.

[quaint anvil]

we dont even know what all the changes are, keep an open mind and blow ur nose. lock it soldier

[clever wolf]

This isn't aimed at you, and frankly thanks for at least communicating with us...but we've heard all this before over and over. Then sdf just shits all over it again when ironmace needs a cash injection.

[keen roost]

I and maybe a lot of you may have encountered that some people have preferences in their gear that helps add distinctions and individualization to their playstyle. I think that removing random rolls may make it simpler and honestly better for newer players which is a step in the right direction . But, while restricted by some objectively better and unbalanced stats, random rolls at best allows for individuals to shape and build their specific stats that they liked and fit the way they liked to fight. A talent tree or ways to distribute your stats that allowed for creativity is needed to fill this gap. Unique rolls showed this the best by giving large changes that vastly changed how a class could play. If we are removing random rolls will there be better balance and room for creativity that prevents homogonous gameplay, especially for the more experienced players?

[mystic latch]

@zinc sparrow When are Rare lobbies or Epic lobbies gonna come back?

[cunning canopy]

Simple, no more gem socketing. uniques are 1%better that lengendaries. Game is a BR with random matchmaking. Noone plays It.

[loud horizon]

Im going to give the no modifiers a try on test server, if you guys put in the work it might actually just be better for balance, and general build making could be waaaaay easier

[wooden fulcrum]

not even 10k online. cooked.

[paper mist]

its a video game and its not that deep, nobody should force themselves to enjoy it, i hope all the changes are amazing but it's not exactly unwarranted to be skeptical

[swift marlin]

Aye I agree with you, positive criticism is fine, I'm totally against the whole locking us out of market for extra sales, as well as the annoying stash seasonal purchase thing too. Keep that stuff on the store not on our stash space lmao

[royal acorn]

Bro it’s 4am

[coral sluice]

Looks like they are finally killing the game

[ornate haven]

God this discord is full of crybaby losers, Is this how yall act irl aswell? Not agreeing with SDF's decisions is one thing but have some goddamnn shame yall

[quaint anvil]

dont force yourself to enjoy, either play or dont, clearly the way things have been going arent working so just let it happen. its not on live servers and is on TEST servers. lock in

[wooden fulcrum]

mfw america is the only country that exists.

[rapid vine]

me hear hopeful message, me happy