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update: ainana has netted $20k today selling gold. says alot about this patch. forced HR, timmy checkin out or buyin gold, no 2 ways to compete without it
lmaoo ok buddy.
The vision of a blind man
This is a horrendous take tbh
he is ragebaiting
We’ll RIP this game until they bring back solos that’s crazy you can’t do solo normals
ONLY going up?? go check the steam charts from when DnD was released on steam.. there were over 100k players... struggling to maintain 15k+ over a year later is absolutely abysmal.. to argue otherwise makes you sound like a paid for ironmace chat bot
Idk if he’s snorting pills or if he’s completely sober but either way nobody should ever be saying stuff that dumb 💔
Thats okay because in a month you cant do solos at all! Only trio
brand new to the game, have not bought legendary, how can I bring better gear in than common? do i have to go high roller w/ legendary?
why is everyone being super abysmal about dark and darker? i don’t play anymore but i keep hearing that the game is about to die?
refund game, free is too much
Dream about it. Thats about as good as it gets rn
and here you are again advertising the R-M-T site.. how is this guy not permed from chat literally advertising r-m-t sites in the community discord lolololool?!
@torn abyss DO NOT BUY THE GAME
no, SDF is planning to entirely remove solo and duo que from all game-modes
WHAT?? They’re removing solos completely? That’s a heartbreaker man I planned to come back to this on full release
yeah after todays change which is lame and one reason the game is being review bombed have fun if you play a class that needs blue and up to actually do anything
speaking of that... i heard a crazzzzzzy rumor lmao which .. is starting to make more & more sense.
and with todays update, all normal queues are ONLY common gear (white gear) lobbies. i think this is what we are missing hte most here guys. free to play can ONLY do adventure mode or normals.
that means free to play players, new players trying the game, can not use ANY gear they find in the dungeon. they cannot requeue with a green item, a blue item, a purple item.
and if they want to experience high roller? the ONLY options they have are the unlimited gear bracket where the best of best gear can be ran, full unique kits, 60k+ gemmed bis, 400k streamer donated kits to make content on.
imagine what that does to a new player who buys the game to try out high roller, there is no middle ground, only THE MOST.
why do they wanna remove solo and duo queue
Its never going to be "full released." They will hide behind the EA as long as they can squeeze money out of people. They are getting rid of duos and solos completely
only way to save this game is to handover this game to the original creators NEXON
nexon will make this game great again
ding ding dingggggggggggg
SDF's "vision"
They pulled in a large portion of their fanbase with solos and then removed it for good.. which I don’t really understand at all LOL
New hotfix should bring back solos and remove SDF
Yep! I hope you enjoy trios gameplay, because that's what this game will be
Doubt that maplestory and others would like a word with you
I didnt even think about that yeah this game is fucking cooked
Its all bcos ppl sooked about druid/rogue in solos - cannot have your cake and eat it too - blame those who complained about solo balancing
they pulled in the solos and duos to fund the original lawsuit
you mean with that cheeky ad they did with the rogue running circles and then doing the fart emote and extracting? that was ironmaces biggest marketing push since i started playing 2 years ago.. LMAOOOOO
so are they removing solo and duo because there aren’t enough players to fill any dungeons?
Its actually illegal aswell if you look at steams Policys. They sold you a game on the premises of solo and duo gameplay then took out the main core gameplay of it. Practically stealing the content you paid for.
Only going up FROM MARCH. Context is required to be explained nowadays. I have no clue what happened at LAUNCH I haven't been around since then.
Steam charts show 19k peak players. And that was this month.
There is no "take"... I'm just giving you the facts. Go read the charts. The charts don't even say the peak players were 100k. The peak was HALF that. But the ones I see only going back 11 mo the ago tbf.
i wonder if there was any thought process into what this does for new player experience. even if a timmy extracts with two green items, they will be met with the jarring warning message that they need to unequip their gear because it's too high level - they cannot use ANYTHING with stat rolls. stat rolls have now become literally paywalled to experiment. free to play/new players CAN NOT utilize the itemization system whatsoever to make any type of build except for random shit they find during the run they're playing in a white gear lobby.
im back from work and its thill not fixed... hope to god they revert back two updates, at least the game was playable then
-1/10 ragebait
the last wipe was IN MARCH so yes it makes sense that players came back for the NEW WIPE, follow along and use your brain before you start using your fingers. it helps
paid chatter
I played mostly solos and I really liked it. Got like level 300, took a break when sorcerer released because the constant balancing was exhausting and I wanted something a little more consistent so I figured I’d wait. I have no interest in playing trios. They had something special with the solos. Trying to figure out how your opponent fights and play the rock paper scissors between classes was awesome. Now I’d log on to get doors closed in my face by teammates with weird class compositions because all my friends dropped this game? Damn dude. What a fumble.
Absolute fucking nightmare updates. Gotta be all time worst dev ever. Game finally getting to a decent state and now you're either common kit or grimsmile stomping. I cannot imagine a worse developer.
Game is never going to full release at this rate
look at the review stats the game is bombing in the last 3 days
lmao bruh i just saw they changed it to common... lmao why tf didnt they @ everyone ????? na he knows he fd up
No bro trust him it’s only going up
Because people like you can't stand that they can't go in with BiS and slam timmys because they can't live in HR
lol you get it.. RIP
someone explain. are they removing solo duo because the player count is so low that it fills games?
"we're an experienced team of developers" That's why we launched a f2p mode and then patched around until any f2p player literally cannot bring in any gear
I play 7~ classes exclusively high roller as soon as I push them to 20 and it's available. I play exclusively solos. I still can play the same lobbies, solo so this does not effect me but these changes are literally so bad that I don't even want to play the game anymore.
he is ragebaiting. The player-base jumped with the release of the new season, per usual, at the beginning of april but has seen a significant and steady decline since.
lol you dont know me
no, they're doing it because SDF doesn't like solo and duo
It’s because they’re not talented enough to balances the classes around each mode honestly is what I think but I’m not sure
I wouldn’t interact w him I think he’s saying dumb shit on purpose 😭
they actually -can- still go in BiS in HR there (which they always were doing also) but now there is just no place to min max besides HR, which is bad for literally every type of player because it forces hardcore players to play less frequently in geared lobbies and forces casual players into a FAR more intense time investment to be competitive.. do you see why thats bad?
@sleek basin Terrence
got nothing to do with talent the guy incharge is just stupid
also remember his "vision" was to make HR trios only . better hit demi before they change it
I suck and can see this change is just dumb
its his vision, he is a trios player who doesnt like solo ques. Terrence was the dev who was a solo player and he was a huge reason that the game didnt suffer this fate sooner.
Who is leaving IM??
Lets just sue SDF
True SDF constantly changing game direction has to have a massive negative impact
i already uninstalled i was just checking the chaos
According to a rumor terrence is gone, he was one of the head developers who was consistently clashing with sdf about changes for the sake of the games future
I just want the game to succeed man 😦
They don't
Bro I wonder what goes through the devs heads when they see this discord and the Reddit after patches like this lmao
intresting ... well i commend terrence for his bravery.
i thought hotfix 69 would kill the game and yet here i am thinking 15 hotfixes later they arent actually consciously trying to kill the game so they can shutter the servers and not lose their entire lives in the lawsuit lol
Fr it’s like they’re trying to kill the game even further
I felt the same but it’s going a direction I don’t like. I honestly don’t think I care if it fails because I don’t see myself playing random trios only anyways.
this^
That is not good.
same as us they wonder what sdf smoked in the morning
Bring back our lord and saviour. 💔
random trios is terrible, so not fun
guarantee the next update... theyre going to re-buff rouges or buff barb again cause why not

bro does laced cocaine before each update
im just praying that it is only a rumor and he isnt actually gone.
sdf doesnt speak or understand english he doesnt read the discord or the reddit threads (obviously) biggest crime against humanity in the vietnam war was @glad thunder parents surviving... gg enjoy the millions slimy grifter
Yeah but wtf else is there gonna be to fill the niche this game provides (sometimes)
druid blocks me with abunch of mobs while running almost die then he dies then gets angry when I don't wanna play with low IQ why are people like this
Who cares about next wipe. Nobody gonna be here any more
the reason trios is so toxic is because the only thing that happens when you are a pos in the game is you get a shiny red name
Bro needs to fix this stuff ASAP or it'll just be streamers running BIS in trios vs the Chinese

clearly youve never played with a red name, you also get TK on spawn 1/5 times if you que into trios with a red name but yeah its shiny i guess if you are slow
edit maybe 2/5 times to be honest
saying what you dont like about the updates is fine and all, but lets not wish people were not born ok?i understand the frustration but we are all adults here
Seriously what is the plan? A lot of people have had all their friends quit. So we’re counting on randoms not to shut doors in our faces, lob fireballs in our back, and just hope we get a competitive class composition?
How do people even get red names? Just getting thumbs downed a lot?
if your name is red you deserve worse
If you think dark n darker’s fanbase is all adults you’re crazy

“Actually, -30ms wasn’t enough. Now he snares you for 5 seconds”
we are all adults here yeah and some of us (sdf) are lying to thousands of people in order to steal money from them with no intention on delivering on the things they are promising.. world might be better off with less of that, im sure an adult can understand
Yh manchildren more accurate probably
i mean, thats a line most normal people dont cros
Why famine so cheap
Yea I dont know, I played one after the update and one random ran off by himself, said nothing, then died and started calling us slurs and left. No more randoms for me after that
adults dont play video games lol only grown children
Frl you can be 20 and still be a child apparently 💔
SDFs vision 🔥

That is not true. I’m an adult with children and a mortgage lol
a line most normal people dont cross is also decieving thousands of people for millions of dollars but idk i chose the line that i crossed already
oh wait i forgot to mention the fact that this whole game is a project that was stolen from ANOTHER game dev(s) who also probably lost out on MILLIONS (based on the 7m that ironmace had to pay to nexon in the lawsuit) but yeah
real, I know people twice that age who stil havn't grown up xD sometimes in a good way though
your just a grown child man but you can surround yourself with as much manlyness as you can that wont change
As a 30 year old grown child I concur.
like i said, i put here that this update is crap and these desitions are blind taken, but doing that kind of thing over a game, clearly is not for normal people
that the main reason WHY I REFUSE TO PLAY this update with randoms. i just play solo HRs. randoms will run off.. not say a word... and die.. calling you all sorts of names before DCing. im good.
Oookaaaaay
"normal people" dont play video games
ok unc
guys siphoning millions of dollars from people in a big ol rug pull scam.. ill say it again @sdf parents surviving the vietnam war and giving birth to this slimy grifter was the biggest crime against humanity of them all... GG
** ALL AFTER losing a lawsuit because he stole intellectual property from someone else
@dawn sedge its not about the game its about the tens of millions of dollars that were stolen from other people.... ill say it again
sdf parents committed a crime against humanity by not dying in the vietnam war
gg
Im just gonna practise warlord on pve until I can nohit him with longsword until arena comes back 🥲
normal people also... dont have an anime as there PFP.
lol
exactly
bro your pfp is you as a cartoon 😭
lmao im jus kidding. && still me fohhh
that’s not.. man idek what to say to this
i see there are some people here that are not adults, grow up, youll see once you do that those coments are not normal
if you are in this discord your not normal lol
well normal is subjective and to me stealing millions of dollars isnt normal either so i guess were all weird here
are we ever fixing the rubber banding issue in this game? literal onlygame i play that has constant lag issues
then why even say anything at all😂
for everyone talking in this chat, if you didnt already know, if you click on the dropdown at the top of the discord server where the title is, click "show all channels" and you can see SDF's kitchen. his most recent message was as follows
"High-Roller mode is currently divided into Solo, Duo, and Trio queues, a structure designed to accommodate players participating in the Adventurer Rank. Once the Adventurer Rank ends, these queues will be merged into a single Trio pool. At that point, we hope to offer a wider range of communication tools to better support cooperative play."
that actually made me laugh though lmaooooo
bring back solos
sdf vision wins. fatality.
Fix vision buff warlock
and you can call them out on that, but the "wish your parents didnt survive". its not normal, please just try to understan that if you can
thats def not normal wtf
bruh there is no helping that man.
yo this isnt a therapy session its discord
He’s doing justice by wishing death on video game developers obviously that’s what normal people do
please only good players talk, must be 800+ elo in arena
isnt 800 super low?
you can say that and everything but would the world not be better off if people who defrauded others of tens, hundreds, thousands of hours of their life in order to fill their own cup and never deliver what was promised, simply didnt exist?
@honest marsh justice indeed.. video game dev, busker on the corner, corporate fraudster, president of the united states, i dont care... people that steal from others dont deserve life
lmao this shit s funny asf
thats not good lol maybe try 2k more
well aside the... not mentally capable, def sdf is cooking so much it burned the whole thing
the world would be better without country music as well but here we are
Slander
just coming back to say that the game was actually alright and mr sdf has to drop some of the worst changes lmao good luck everyone
im 2 k and only started playing arena yesterday
so why is the game going towards only trios he wants to remove solos in hr too lmao
why is the game really leaning into the whole completely trios dynamic?
exactly so saying 800 is good is a joke
not slander unless you’re old
w updage
because that's what it's "balanced" around
Old country slaps. Better than the cringe mumble rap you probably bump
or like 90% of your music making you sad lol
starting a gofundme to buy this game from @glad thunder DM me for link goal is 7mil to cover the lawsuit
baby lock dem doors and turn the lights down low
pvp for newplayers is literally gone
we do not give a fuck
Anyone saying cringe mumble rap at that age shouldn’t be talking abt music at all
two hotfixes ago was kind of ok
Rap isn’t music. It’s for baboons with brain rot
i appreciate the fact that you havent muted me yet god bless brother DM me for the gofundme link.. if you cant afford to donate ill give you a free lesson in squire gear since youre probably new here
lol just block him he is a rage baiter
country is for old overweight bumpkins
game will die if they remove solos lmao
you both probably fit like a glove into the sterotypes youre perpetuating lololol
^
tell me your racist .. without tell me your racist lmao .
solos gone W
I’m racist
not old or fat or a southerner thank god
ok wtf
at this rate people gonna start migrating to elden ring nightreign for roguelike games...
😂
lmao
he said "without telling me..." typical racist cant even read T_T
can any character even at 330 move speed actually outrun a druid
glad your proud of that
nice devs man
cringe ahh pfp
racist and leaves his wife alone to argue with "childrn"\
not with the double jump, no one can
Yall I told you about country music listeners 💔💔 the music’s so bad it makes its fans racist
it's fine the game will die in maybe a month after they remove solos
I didn’t call anyone children
so whats the fukn point
yeah no i was thinking you were the babboon since you were the one that made the country music comment.. obviously you guys are accusing eachother and not yourselves
why
instead of common only gear it should be self found gear that a W change or what
naaa just this guy.
so what game are we switching to now yall?
lol but you neglect your lonley wife? cant believe that was your reply im rolling lmfao
elden ring nightreign
just listened to lil nas x i can already feel it
I cheat
but yeah go off with the reverse racism im sure it wont come back your way tenfold considering everything behind these comments
m o n k e y
New update makes me wish the game would die just to prove whoever made the decision wrong
that may be good actually, first two weeks was pure bliss
I gotta love the absolute mental case that is announcements over the last 3 days.
2days ago:
The removal of the lower gear-score pools also symbolizes a return to the more brutal and hardcore roots for the PvP-enabled dungeons, where not every fight is supposed to be fair.
Today:
We've made the lower gear lobby commons only so it's entirely fair and there is no gear gap.
self found gear was good when it lasted. whats better is if they remove all enchantments entirely
lol obviously just keep adding the sht
bro get a job
where can i report messed up rooms?
youre getting paid to glaze ironmace in the community discord bro thats hardly a job
it will die , they remove solos, after they remove blue normals so now you either go common trio , so you can get rekt by trio if you go in alone everytime, or you go solo HR , while it's avaible
you need a job to type freaking 1 sentence complaint? jfc you are not efficient at all
do you have a job?
bit excessive
I'm telling you they're tanking the whole things so they can cut operating costs and maybe even close the game. Also @wanton pelican is goofy af. I most certaintly earn more than you bb.
Why did SDF force me into rares and up and then take away rares after I crafted/gemmed all my rare gear?
no racism from me LOL you can be overweight and old regardless of your skin.. it just so happens that it’s the country listeners
its 100% going to die, people that have been playing any more than 6 months understand that this sentiment has been around for a long time and isnt going away.. its going to be the same thing every hotfix until they shutter the servers
this makes no sense what? they just stop the game if they want to stop it? why draw it out?
What If im in shape and not old but still racist
money?
why did they change the loot for normals to common only? such a lame move the blue lobbies were so fun
Hi i like to play druid and exploit a terrible character design to get the edge in solos. So i get 330 ms and dbl jump everyone cause im a rat and swat at ankles like im a taco bell mutt.
Is your name Chad?
then why the bad changes? make it make sense
but this update didnt come with any monetary transactions this makes no sense
To slowly let people find new jobs?
crazy i know a whole bunch of average people in their thirties that listen to country... care to address that? are you gonna call them fat or old? ((some of them are even racist so you can grab that straw too)) or start saying something else completely irrelevent because you dont have any opinions that are actually worth stating?
oh yeah? i make a million dollars a second, beat that!
no one with two conecting neurones can man, im sorry
.
yeah I feel like anyone that listens to country is spiritually obese and there’s nothing changing that
This used to be a decent game. Basically cant compete If you don't dedicate your life to it. I think its going to die tbh. No direction, throwing shit at the wall hoping it sticks. It's meta only. Gross.
Why did SDF force me into rares and up and then take away rares after I crafted/gemmed all my rare gear?
"spiritually obese" jfc you are a cl0wn dude say something worth reading next time please im getting tired
lol sdf did cook tho he managed to turn the discord into even more of a toxic hellscape and he barely tried
Don’t reply to this nerd lol. He’s just a ragebaiter that just joined this disc today
Because Sdf actually wants this game to die. He got everyone’s money, now it’s time to completely kill the game in a way they can’t sue
Why did SDF force me into rares and up and then take away rares after I crafted/gemmed all my rare gear?
<@&1019888848773328936> need this slowmode taken down to a max of 10 seconds asap, thank you
Also good point lmfao☠️
This discord has over 120k members and we have 6k online...........oooof\
this is what a big person would say icl
they all off duty apparently lmao
ignore this guy evryone he is a class sht rage baiter
maybe hes telling you to touch grass
You joined the Discord today may 26th how would you know what it’s been like? You just started playing the game noob
400k actually, husk of a server
@prince.0958 i have to combine my messages into one im not so fucking slow it takes one minute to type something out
big miss but keep going pal if you keep forcing those two braincells to collide you might create a meaningful thought eventually
Why did SDF force me into rares and up and then take away rares after I crafted/gemmed all my rare gear?
He rage quit earlier n came back
Why did SDF force me into rares and up and then take away rares after I crafted/gemmed all my rare gear?
They promised us a game, took the money, and about to dip. Should have gotten my refund when I had the chance. GGs lol someone will do this right eventually. It will be epic when they do.
Is it too late to support Nexon? I just came back after a few months and HOLY HELL did SDF develop some kind of brain tumor? Is this dude serious?
you probably ran out of breath typing that biggie
Oh so he’s fragile lol got it
takes one to know one huh
SDF has been talking about how Gear Diff is way too strong forr like 2 years now, and instead of fixing gear, they keep just readjusting brackets instead of fixing the core issue
how is this update ideal in any capacity?
lol wait do you have legendary status? if you dont lol wher tf are you gunna use them blues
my eyes are the only thing getting tired.. keep rolling back every time i read the drivel that you respond with.. zzzzzzz 0/10 troll back to the lobby kid
Sdfs original vision of dark and darker being league of legends but first person. Damn Koreans
Why don’t you go watch your cartoons anime boy
Fat “people” replying to me like crazy rn
LMAO
You answered your own question. I wouldn’t be saying this if I couldn’t use them smh
bet your rubbing one out to all this toxic chat lol
i see. and we have no roadmap correct? i cant seem to find one anywhere? im just wondering how removing solos and duos was in any way moving the game forward
only fat between the waist and the knees brother ill send a full body pic in your DMs right now
Why are you guys in here arguing over a completely dead game?
I love our girlfriend
No roadmap, just his vague ass vision
W vision. fuck the haters.
WElp deleting game for now....Ill check back in a year and see what else has gone wrong and right then wrong and right then wrong again
Why did SDF force me into rares and up and then take away rares after I crafted/gemmed all my rare gear?
ask sdf
example #999
so like... did we get an explanation as to why they removed solos and duos?
He has Stevie Wonder vision for sure
Game is meant for trios buff lock remove solo and duos
the vision
You’re not fat anywhere specific you’re just fat buddy and it’s okay
I am trying to gib the fortune teller the mimic tongue and it won’t work can anyone help?
his "vision"
Why did SDF force me into rares and up and then take away rares after I crafted/gemmed all my rare gear?
kinda, sdf said he hated solos and duos, so basicaly he choped off like 50-80% of the player base... good to kill games
just edg1ng for now but were getting reallllly close frfr!!
@honest marsh ill show you what areas im fat in brother check your DM
brother if you cant secure kills with the current state or warlock ... wrap it up.
example #1000 you have won the prize of being a ass
It’s not SDF’s vision for you to finish your quest
I’d drop u 1v1
Buff lock
you let me get a pic
Lets just go play dungenbourne
yall just arent seeing the vision but thats okay, ME and sdf are cooking up something crazy
SDF?
wow hows the past your living in
you almost tricked me with the anime p4p but i see youre not @honest marsh nice try buster
Is it good and does it have solos? If so might switch when they take solos away
obviously not if you need your class buffed
Why did SDF force me into rares and up and then take away rares after I crafted/gemmed all my rare gear?
crazy would be a definition jaja
imagine being so blind that you can't see the vision. couldn't be me honestly. VISIONARIES 2025 BIG UPS SDF
Flash wants pics from fat people that’s crazy
hell no im not a dweeb
solos and duos were like a welfare check for bads. now that hes taking the welfare away they are rioting. sdf making DAD great again. vision ftw.
i mean its kinda like the same game but for some reason the community really hates it
so wait hold on. sdf is like the top dawg right? he is just removing half the game because he arbitrarily decided that he does not like it? Is this game owned by a 15 year old?
It’s the man in charge of this abomination of a video game. The man with the mental shortcoming that is responsible for single handedly destroying one of the more fun games I’ve ever played.
Why did SDF force me into rares and up and then take away rares after I crafted/gemmed all my rare gear?
rage baiter #999
i mean, by the facts i say yes
Buff lock we deserve 2 minute curse of pains
Well if sdf goes off the deep end and gets rid of hr solo I will be giving that game a try
fat and people dont go together, they are diffrent things
None of the content has and will be removed. People just need to play trios like the game was meant to be played.
apparently thats the "plan" to turn HR into trios only. but who knows.
That’s why it’s so offputting when you come across such large specimens
game is meant to be hard, all these kids crying because their 2 braincells fighting each other cant comprehend how to play anymore
From what ive seen of SDFs vision, its a game with no solo or duo, only trio, the inability to boss without constant PvPing, the inability for crow play without getting ran down, and the necessity to take in max gear constantly. Essentially he wants a 3v3v3v3v3v3 battle royale of min maxxers in every lobby with some kind of high-rated competitive play ranked system
All this fukery will be over when gta 6 is released
Facts. Only no friend furries are upset about no more lame solo lobbies
bro i just dont know what is the deal with COMMON lobbies. SDF is on the snooze
whoever thought it was a good idea to remove solo normal pvp is the biggest fking rtrd like what
Whats the easiest way to escape hr frost caverns late round? Are there portals?
I mean it's the closest viable option to not having gear brackets at all.
Don’t insult sdf he’s very smart
Baxel I’m not sure if this is a burner account or something but you’ve consistently said the dumbest shit I’ve seen
Why did SDF force me into rares and up and then take away rares after I crafted/gemmed all my rare gear?
I started this season late into wipe. I couldnt fight anyone in greys so i was forced to crow play and avoid getting ran down by brave hunters cobalt kids
sdf PLEAAASE add back epic high roller, i simply have no chance against a full bis unique barbarian who just walks me down
na we just dont like that we will get people like you as randoms
the sad part is that only 10-15% of the player base is a sweatty hardcore player like that, thats why the game is almost death
OKAY lets put the last nail in the coffin. SOLO and DUO HAD TO GO. even if it was nice take it as a sacrifice but its good for the game. at least for the current playerbase
Static portal spawns around the map. I think portals spawn too but im not sure
You’ve never got pathfinder noob and I don’t play fills lmao. Unlike you I have friends and a squad
Flath earthers calling NASA dumb. Classic
90% of my gameplay is solo bc I can do whatever I want not relying on teammates etc I can boss or get out if I get something good etc. and I don’t have to look for teammates that are competent or not crashouts etc
All in all I know there is a lot of people like me who prefer to grind solo. Game will be cooked for us
you need to go touch grass the way god intended you to do.
regardless if its meant for trios or not the balancing system is way TF off
Imagine going on a date with someone and they find out you’re a sweat at a game like dark and darker
in order to make sure our game doesn't die we'll remove a core experience for new players 🗣️
Brother if you think that you’re NASA then you’re even more delusional than you appear.
sounds pretty cringe bro maybe just uninstall the game
sounds like you need to get good
lol if that helps you sleep you can think that
agreed. majority if my hours is Solos. i know the feeling.
imagine
I know I'm equivalent to NASA and Jesus. People just hate the truth.
The ragebaiters aren’t even trying anymore
I can tell by the way you type you are a solo player lol nobody grouping with your cartoon ass
Less and thats of the current numbers. Lets say 10k people. Every round has 1 or 2 min maxxers in god kits. They quit when they lose their gear. So lets say theres 1000 min maxxers. They quit when their gear is lost, so now take away half of them so only the SKILLED min maxxers get to play. All tbe sudden, dark and darker is a 500 person game. And 500 people arent enough to sustain itself.
the game was NOT DESIGNED FOR SOLO. they HAD solo for experimentation. They found solo was okay but all classes are DESIGNED, also the game is DESIGNED around team fights
sdf is taking this game in the right direction. Prove me wrong
we got kanye in here
Jesus is just a random middle eastern dude you can’t compare bro to nasa
imagine your name is a good influencer and dont influence sheit
Guys is it normal to get absolutely slaughtered in PvP? Only been playing for 3 days but I’m usually decent at new PvP games but man i cant even get a hit off before im dead 😭
My duo only enjoys common lobbies. He quit when it was removed. I started playing trios in rare lobbies because I didn’t want to quit. They then remove rare lobbies rendering the tabs of gear I crafted useless and my duo still won’t come back because he doesn’t like playing with randoms. Great game.
It very well could be rage bait but you drastically underestimate how stupid people are lol
So, just to be clear, if you want to play solo you have to play in the gear bracket that is an insane spike in difficulty not only for pve but for pvp. furthermore if you die the goblin merchant wont give you any of your stuff back in said higher difficulty and on top of all of this the gear disparity os so large that if you dont get super lucky you will not be able to compete. am i understanding this correctly? I have a couple hundred hours in the game and most of that is in solos and trios is an entirely different ball game. it almost feels like a different game how much the play style changes. so because sdf did not like solo and duos he just chopped them off?
I will pray for you my brother in christ, repent and come to Jesus
holy yap bro just get good
if you had friends you wouldnt be all over this chat you would be playing with them but if you do i bet your the loudmouth in the group that likes to play devils advocate on everything you hear
Didn't bother reading but good for you.
Or sorry, whichever it is.
i aint reading that essay
He’s either a rage baiter or too stupid to converse with. Either way just give it up lol
bro they are fucking this game so hard tf they doing
yes 👍
Big learning curve. It’s like Tarkov. You need at least 200 hours to have good game sense.
people these days all want the easy route its crazy. bunch of sissiies
better watch out, youre next
Yeah pretty much.
My squad would drop ur squad
lol
@glad thunder explain
Well in that case i dont think i will come back. Have a good day all of you.
honestly quite an accurate take, yeah thats the situation for new players rn cosmic. They will fix it. I started this month too, I have hope.
i read it, hes not far from the truth to
dont forget, you cant even use your green+ gear without buying legendary status now
Why did SDF force me into rares and up and then take away rares after I crafted/gemmed all my rare gear?
Damn a single paragraph is enough to scare you. Not just scare you, but make you comment on how much it scares you.
Bruh they gotta make kids read again. Our youth is getting dumb
I guess it will be a requirement to be in the discord to play the game unless you plan to random q in which goodluck
The vision
This guy said he’s not overweight and then goes N says stuff like this 😭 😭
Good. Fuck free players. About time they cough up some dough to help further the games development
i aint reading that cuz
They won’t fix it. I’ve played since early access. Every time they take a few steps forward they follow it with a massive leap backwards. Dude in charge isn’t capable of running a video game. Tbh I’d be shocked if he’s capable of wiping his own ass
I honestly don’t know where to begin, but here I am, tears streaming down my face, trying to make sense of the mess that the new changes have caused. Dark and Darker was my game. The one place I could escape to, the one game that captured that raw thrill of adventure and danger in a way no other game could.
But now? What have they done? They’ve completely upended everything that made the game great. The new changes feel like a slap in the face. What happened to the gritty, immersive experience we loved? All of the soul and tension has been drained out. It feels like the game I fell in love with is slipping through my fingers, changing into something I don’t recognize... something that doesn’t feel like Dark and Darker anymore.
I get it, updates are supposed to improve the game, but this... this feels like they’ve missed the mark entirely. Why mess with something that was already perfect in its own broken, chaotic way? All I wanted was to explore the depths, fight alongside friends, feel the fear, the rush, the victory—but now it feels like everything’s been reduced to just another generic experience.
I’m not sure I can keep playing it like this. Every change just feels like a wound, and with each patch, I’m losing more of what I loved about the game. Did the devs even listen to us? Did they hear our cries for balance, for innovation? Or were they too caught up in their vision that they couldn’t see the magic they were tearing apart?
Dark and Darker isn’t just a game. It’s an experience. And right now, that experience is slipping away. I want to love it again, I really do... but these changes... I just don’t know anymore.
they intentionally made it so that free to play players (non legendary status) cannot use any of the gear they find without buying the game.. you either play squire trios or PvE only trios unless you spend the money to buy the game to use the gear that you find in the FTP version.. another cash grab before they shutter the servers.. so obvious it hurts
This bro is a nexon employee
Oh shit you actually can’t read, my bad for being incentive. I didn’t realize
lol not reading that
not reading that shit
Free player bums don’t deserve a voice in voting on where the game should be focused or catered to
the irony in this statement
insensitive*
yes you are
hold on i will read while taking a shit
they intentionally made it so that free to play players (non legendary status) cannot use any of the gear they find without buying the game.. nothing to do with lobbies or que times, go back in the chat 1 week and you wont find a single person complaining about either of those things. now, you either play squire trios or PvE only trios unless you spend the money to buy the game to use the gear that you find in the FTP version.. another cash grab before they shutter the servers.. so obvious it hurts
jaja i read it, kinda dramatic, but still not far from the truth to
No need for rudeness guys jeez. also @sleek basin stop being ignorant brother, I played the game for a week before buying legendary, and if the game is as it is now, I would not have bought it.
Free players don’t deserve anything because they’re broke and broke people get to starve
Oops iPhone autocorrect! Good catch! You’re learning!
Just trust the vision and let @glad thunder cook!!!!
I bought legendary in the start of season 1 after i had been downloading the game through bit torrent and was playing the valentines day playtests and more.. how about you lil bro?
yeaaah u heard free players? life is a dungeon go sell crack
Why did SDF force me into rares and up and then take away rares after I crafted/gemmed all my rare gear?
thanks chatgpt wrote it for me
Forcing trios? Cool, I’ll just queue up with me, my anxiety, and trust issues.
HOLD THE LINE!!
ironmace has been doing this for 6+ months... go back in the chat and search what you just said and youll find at least 100 other people saying the same thing over the last year
he actually read your message
get a job lil bro
Buddy I’ve been here since playtest 1 try again
During the later years of the Obama administration, controversy struck the gaming world when unexpected federal involvement led to sweeping changes in Dark and Darker. Under the pretext of promoting “collaborative engagement standards,” the administration pushed for the removal of solo and duo queue options from the game, citing concerns about “antisocial digital behavior” and the “fragmentation of virtual communities.”
What followed was a wave of frustration from the Dark and Darker community. Solos, who relied on stealth, skill, and strategy, were suddenly forced into team lobbies, breaking the delicate balance the game was built on. Duos, a fan-favorite mode that allowed for tight tactical gameplay between two friends, were also scrapped. Players were left with only trios and larger squads, completely altering the game’s identity and pacing.
Despite public outcry, press briefings from the Department of Digital Engagement defended the decision, claiming it was in line with broader initiatives aimed at fostering unity and “reducing lone wolf digital behavior.” But the damage was done. Queue times ballooned, matchmaking suffered, and the once-thriving solo and duo communities began to vanish. What had been a fresh, flexible dungeon crawler quickly turned rigid and bureaucratic—another casualty of policy over play.
underratted comment lol
Alright so were capping
Why did SDF force me into rares and up and then take away rares after I crafted/gemmed all my rare gear?
bro shut your goofy ass up 😭
Yeah you have those ppl then you have ppl like me who have every class to 100 and dont care how bad the game is
No solos? Cool, I always wanted to be emotionally carried and fragged.
thats why so many people are being so loud now.. because weve all been echoing this for the last year and week after week its patches like this.. sometimes you just gotta understand whats really going on
they intentionally made it so that free to play players (non legendary status) cannot use any of the gear they find without buying the game.. you either play squire trios or PvE only trios unless you spend the money to buy the game to use the gear that you find in the FTP version.. another cash grab before they shutter the servers.. so obvious it hurts
@dusk nebula brother ive got 1.7k+ hours in this game i get it but at some point you have to listen to the music is playing in the room
Brother I’m being overly facetious for shits and gigs. I thought that was apparent
your the opposite of a rage baiter your a people pleaser lol keep it up make everyone with long usless takes happy
is it confirmed terry is gone?
How is that cap I started on last day of PT 1 and played every playtest tf lol
i ant reding tht
Considering how drastically worse off this game is now I would say that it’s safe to assume he doesn’t have much power
You know you fucked up your game when even the fat people see a problem
and you still suck ass, someone give this man an award
12k players vs 300k in the playtest ? Lmao
oh ik, i think yall's conversation is hilarious
Solos removed? Guess I’ll just queue with two strangers who have matching clan tags and no headsets.
yes i do understand i def do
Why did SDF force me into rares and up and then take away rares after I crafted/gemmed all my rare gear?
im just a regular guy, reading this... exchanges, if you cant see it well, what can i say
how much they paying you to ride them so hard hope you use lube
I started with magic tree house in first grade! Give em a try, they’re quite good. You might be able to finish your first in a week!
original dip was because of solo and duo queue. ruined the game.
Buff lock
I am more optimistic than to think its a cash grab, or maybe hopeful. But frankly it is pathetic that they could do that to their F2P playerbase. @honest marsh be a good influence bro. Repent and give your life to Jesus my brother. Death is coming for us all @honest marsh Your going to die homie, yknow where u going?
Everyone who mad bc they playing for free just get ur money up
ok?
Me and SDF are cooking up like walt and jesse, just wait guys
He probably paid them to let him ride it
Repent your life to Jesus brother ahh
Why did SDF force me into rares and up and then take away rares after I crafted/gemmed all my rare gear?
Fck your vision you absolute dog, beat a fulgor and get third partied so fun
lol gave them buns up for free
Thanks for reading! Next issue coming out soon. 😎
Side note - They’re increasing the timer for posting as people get more pissy and spammy 😂
Bruh let the people vent. Their DaD girlfriend just broke up with them.
LMFAO
The gigantic elephant was extraordinary and walked through the magnificent forest with determination.
Why am i waiting 2+ minutes for an adventure game by myself? Used to be instant load?
i have tried to deny it for a long time too but the cards tell the story.. if it hasnt taken off by now, before the lawsuit settlement, -7 million dollars to ironmace, are we really gonna sit here and pretend its happening now? after they have lost a majority of the people they started with and are down BAD? lets stop letting @glad thunder lie to us and steal our money eh?
DND mobile contract terminated right at the time the lawsuit ended, killing new player outreach.. absolutely ZERO marketing efforts in .. idk.. ever.... lets not lie to eachother and pretend this isnt a dude that stole a project, got caught, and is trying whatever is necessary to not lose his whole life in the lawsuit
Jesus is king, and conquered all
I quit after last religion patch, then sdf took the wheel and I knew it was doomed that wipe and the next wipe... unlucky, at least sdf getting bank from real monai transfers and the game EOS so he doesn't have to pretend listne to his dev team to kill the game
make normal queue self found instead of common limit holy fuck
He’s begging for it probably. Praying he’s the first man to get pregnant and that SDF is the daddy
You aren’t a Christian
Jesus died for saying dumb shit and that’s abt it
yea what was i thinking he doesnt use lube he obviously enjoys pain
dont we all
Hallelujah. Guys believe what you want but just remember death is coming for us all, find truth before you die
Once upon a twilight, a man named SDF walked into a spooky forest. He was brave, but a little bamboozled—he’d heard tales of a terrible monster there.
Deep in the woods, he found a mossy tower glowing with a soft green light. Inside lived a lich named Elira. She was not scary. She was ethereal, with glowing eyes and a crown of bone. She liked reading big books and drinking tea made from mystical herbs.
"Are you here to fight me?" she asked.
"No," SDF said. "I got lost. Also, you’re kind of... beautiful?"
Elira blinked. No one had ever said that before. Most people ran away or screamed.
She made him tea. He brought her flowers. They talked about life, magic, and sandwiches.
SDF didn’t mind that she was undead. "You’re funny, smart, and your bone hands are good at making cookies," he said.
And so, the unlikely pair fell in love.
Some say you can still hear them laughing in the forest, reading books under the stars—one alive, one undead, both extremely happy.
You know it’s gonna come out a half Druid, half warlock meta baby too. SDF can’t play anything else
i have tried to deny it for a long time too but the cards tell the story.. if it hasnt taken off by now, before the lawsuit settlement, -7 million dollars to ironmace, are we really gonna sit here and pretend its happening now? after they have lost a majority of the people they started with and are down BAD? lets stop letting @glad thunder lie to us and steal our money eh?
DND mobile contract terminated right at the time the lawsuit ended, killing new player outreach.. absolutely ZERO marketing efforts in .. idk.. ever.... lets not lie to eachother and pretend this isnt a dude that stole a project, got caught, and is trying whatever is necessary to not lose his whole life in the lawsuit
Could never conquer the one true god, Solaire of Astora!
☀️ PRAISE THE SUN ☀️
Jesus would be cracked at dark n darker though thank god nails aren’t an item in the game
lol and if you are its the downfall of religion
You for sure gotta be like 15 or sone shit with that edgy response
the truth is waffles>pancakes
just getting lower and lower
WHO ASKED FOR THIS UPDATE???S???!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?zdsbfhjkasdbgjipwsbEDJOghbsdjkgsdf
i have tried to deny it for a long time too but the cards tell the story.. if it hasnt taken off by now, before the lawsuit settlement, -7 million dollars to ironmace, are we really gonna sit here and pretend its happening now? after they have lost a majority of the people they started with and are down BAD? lets stop letting @sdf lie to us and steal our money eh?
DND mobile contract terminated right at the time the lawsuit ended, killing new player outreach.. absolutely ZERO marketing efforts in .. idk.. ever.... b lets not lie to eachother and pretend this isnt a dude that stole a project, got caught, and is trying whatever is necessary to not lose his whole life in the lawsuit b
I just wish more ppl considered their mortality. I wanna bring gamers to jesus. Thats a got a ring eh ill take it
I don’t think anything’s wrong abt what I said but it was a bit edgy tbh
You been meat riding me for 30 mins go watch your cartoons
Jesus is eternal and the greatest example in the world, the og badass. Meanwhile mohammeds 12 yo seventh wife:
bro this is a chat not story time
yea, and was not dnd movile kinda good? stupid take to not keep it
i aint reading that, summarize it please
so sad terry could have actually made a good game, he was cooking last wipe, just needed some adjustments to contious dungeons, levers on static and slight balance changes and more content, instead SDF saw his vision of a fun thriving game and decided to run it down bcs statics were too op, and then he didn't even nerf red statics zzzz.
more
All in favor of Nexon sending SDF to a torture dungeon say Aye
Aye
Keep spreading the gospel buddy. But these gamers are likely to get very butthurt about it because they are lost
aye
dndm was unironically more mechanically sound than THE FULL GAME.... the termination of that contract was a HUGE red flag for anyone paying attention. that was 100% a surrender moment
COUP DE TAT SDF, BRING BACK TERRENCE
He could just file for bankruptcy and write most of this shit off as a loss.
Unless he ran everything through his personal credit he’ll be gucci.
Plus, since he won the lawsuit he could just sell the rights.
Knowing what I know of business law (not a bunch albeit) he’s not in as deep doodoo as we think with the lawsuit.
Granted, idk all that much about Korean law specifically,
Don't look to Christians to figure out how to follow christ, go to the source and read it for yourself. @sleek basin Cmon brother lets welcome them with love and respect, the way our Lord would want us to
i am the source btw.
he is just here to get off on rage baiting ignore him
american civil law or korean civil law? ((just saw the edit... good catch))
sdf make money throught real monai transfer, ints game and playerbase and perserves w/e money he has left, declares and takes it all and is bing chilling for life. vs spending more on development. he'll make more this way so it is what it is .
You’ve been rage baiting all night instead of watching your cartoons
Weeb gooner trying to deny the gospel is crazyyy.
I believe he can sell the rights in America and they just need to change IP. IM won the American lawsuit a while ago.
sheep.
DING DING DINGGGGG guy gets rich if he runs the game into the ground and goes absolutely broke if he tries to keep it alive.. obvious answer
Christ is King. Get over it
DEUS VULT
christ wasnt real, every morning since I found SDF as my lord and savior had been amazing and fulfilling
I dislike weeb gooners as much as the next guy but at least he ain’t christian
whos buying this dumpster fire of a piss poor excuse for a game? anybody with half a brain just starts over, this whole game is a stolen project to begin with and has so much negative perception to anyone who has even touched it at this point
Homie this really ain’t the place to push a religious agenda.
Religious folk always gotta throw it where it isn’t necessary. Let people believe what they wanna
-7.1m lawsuit just made him realize if he doesn't EOS game now and dip with remaining funds he'll have 0 left, is ok dropping religion mid wipe bcs it spikes notfakemt and they're enabling some dupe or w/e why they did it again.
Christ is King
another sheep.
nah he was definitely real but he was just a random prophet that ended up getting famous LOL
Well I'd argue that. If you really believe in hell as I do, you want to lead as many people as you possible canto be saved. It doesn't matter how or when.
he is not a sheep he is a ant he is just here to get off on rage baiting ignore him
Gods strongest warrior
Religious or not, Jesus cant fix this dumpster fire of a game
Homie I’ll push whatever, whenever, wherever I please
The DaD discord is the perfect place to start 🙏
also why game is horrible at banning fakemt and cheaters. no interest in maintaining a lifespan so u just maximie profits and don't need to fix things that kill player retention
Christianity is legit just a handbook on how not to be a demon in human clothing. I personally believe as long as youre morally virtuous you go to heaven, as christ forgives. I dont see why everyone thinks its the cool thing to deny christianity? Youre outting yourself as a morally bankrupt person?
there is enough suffering on earth to call this hell, who is saving anyone from what?????
is gob recovery off in HR now?
this guy is just trying to find a trio. Ignore him
Has been for weeks
Oof nah dude this would be a goldmine for a strong def team to scoop.
Already got through the lawsuit, so only legal fee would be the selling.
- established playerbase
- easy development
- notes from creator for “vision”
Etc. there’s a bunch of plus’s
Jesus is the ancient version of anime
and now its religious... this went sout real quick, but i think thats banneable right? like, no religion and stuff
Being morally virtuous does not grant entry to Heaven. That ain’t biblical. That’s works based faith not saved by graced
havent touched hr so honestly didnt know, thanks
Christianity has some great stuff in it fr. it’s just misleading for a lot of people like every other religion
True. But its my personal belief, and its not catholic in nature
if SDF isn't doing this to maximize his gains he's actually just chalked. like at least it makes sense if he's inting for personal gain... but if hes not even getting anything out of it just sad..
Fair enough. I’ll use my power to ignore all messages.
Do what makes you happy, and others uncomfortable ♥️
"established playerbase"? theres probably less than 5k players with over 500 hours. established playerbase is already wild. its not. at all. easy dev? yeah because its an extremely clunky, mechanically 10 years behind, rpg based combat system.. notes from creator is not even worth responding to because LOLLLLLLLLLL. this would be an absolutely horrible investment for anyone with the capability of making a decent game.
DEUUUUUUUUS VUUULTTTTTTTTTT
Well the Catholics think you can pay to get your relatives out of purgatory so they kind of rely on false doctrine of works based faith
Yes but faith is also dead without works, they go hand in hand. Also, christianity is not misleading. The bible is accurate, and has withstood the test of time. We have manuscripts such as codex Vaticanus, the septuigant, and even P52. The bible has remained the same as it was 2000 years ago, that is certainly a miracle
Not necessarily. If you think of all religions the only other guy kinda on the same even playing field is buddha and thats iffy.
does the bible talk about SDF? if not then how can i trust it?
When you die you eternally exist in inferno
games been in development for several years, off a stolen project, and is still less mechanically sound and less rigorously updated than SCHEDULE 1 which is a JOKE GAME made by a single dev... the glazing to get to this game even being sellable is laughable
Yeah and they both rely on believing in old incomplete books and magic while also denying evolution or a round earth 💔
I’m aware of all of that, but being a ‘good person’ doesn’t just grant you heaven lol. Nobody is good or deserving of it. It’s all grace and repentance
It is banable. But I’m pretty sure the Tavern masters are being told to allow people to vent however they want. Most of the talk here would’ve gotten a lot of people served muted
Lowk better to be in hell then the removal of your own conciousness and infinite black
cadc modern bible has been changed multiple times by bad actors and wealthy "bankers" its why christianity in modern america is nothing more than cattle maxxing for its captilist overlords
Dang we started out with a nice conversation. Sucks you couldn’t keep that respect throughout. I would’ve loved to see your point of view and you see mine.
Damn shame. Gl hf man
ive already said 2 hours ago that the biggest war crime committed in vietnam was SDF parents surviving.. if that hasnt got me muted and or permed from this cord its anything goes clearly
Calvinism>Catholicism
Assuming youve lived a morally corrupt life you need forgiveness for, but thats imo. Theres so many different faiths under christianity that contradict eachother that you can effectively choose which resonates the most
Thank you @zinc moat ! I would love to share more information. So, I'll refer you to some academic scholars who have proved the text has remained unchanged
play the game a lil longer and follow the "vision" and look down.. youll have walked 3 miles already wearing these shoes 😒
Of course I have. Everyone has lol. It’s the fallen state of man
list em
Blacksmith down? says server error
Keith E. Small – Textual Criticism and Qur’ān Manuscripts (2011)
Small's research analyzes seven verses from Surah 14 across 21 early Qur'anic manuscripts. He concludes that while a standardized consonantal text emerged early, it was selected from among multiple versions, suggesting that the Qur'an underwent editorial processes before achieving its current form.
Kirk R. MacGregor – The State of Islamic Textual Criticism (2013)
Presented at the International Society of Christian Apologetics, MacGregor's paper examines the Sana'a manuscripts—some of the earliest Qur'anic texts discovered. He argues that these manuscripts exhibit variations indicating that the Qur'an's text has experienced changes over time, challenging claims of its perfect preservation.
James A. Bellamy – Various Articles in the Journal of the American Oriental Society
Bellamy, a prominent figure in Qur'anic textual criticism, proposed numerous emendations to the standard text of the Qur'an between 1973 and 2002. His work suggests that certain passages may have undergone alterations, reflecting a dynamic textual history.
Taha Hussein – On Pre-Islamic Poetry (1926)
In this controversial work, Egyptian scholar Taha Hussein questions the authenticity of pre-Islamic poetry and, by extension, casts doubt on parts of the Qur'an that reference or resemble such poetry. His critique implies that some Qur'anic content may have been influenced by later literary developments.
Valid, but its not impossible to be a perfect person
the modern bible is also incomplete with no real-world evidence aside from jesus existing. everything else is up to your imagination basically LOL
wait, they took away the blue queue?
Dude im a Follower of Christ. Yes the Quran has been changed, I was actrually arguing that to someone earlier today
only man to be perfect was Jesus😳
servers finally shuttered????? they hit the gofundme goal?!??!?!
Dr.James White
The quran changed???? Where do u get that info from
i see, that why the "wish... not survived" was not stoped, thankfully this man is reasonable and vented in a good way, kudos to you man, not everyone does that
who is a christian theologian, bias.
Thats the quran. Mohammed, not Jesus.
why wouldnt he sell the game your being dramatic i dont think he'd be so greedy to the point where he would just shut down the game.
<@&1019888848773328936> you need to get ahold of you channels fr
Timothy Mitchell's Study on Early Christian Texts
In his 2020 article, "Exposing Textual Corruption: Community as a Stabilizing Aspect in the Circulation of the New Testament Writings during the Greco-Roman Era," Timothy Mitchell discusses how early Christian communities were aware of and responded to textual alterations. He cites examples such as Origen's experience with a heretical addition to his writings and Paul's warnings about false letters in the New Testament, highlighting that early Christians recognized and addressed textual changes within their communities.
Bart D. Ehrman's "Misquoting Jesus"
Bart D. Ehrman's book, Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why, delves into how scribes and early Christian theologians intentionally altered biblical texts to support specific theological agendas. Ehrman provides examples of such changes, offering insights into the complexities of biblical textual transmission.
Daniel B. Wallace's "Revisiting the Corruption of the New Testament"
Edited by Daniel B. Wallace, this volume compiles essays that explore various aspects of textual corruption in the New Testament. The contributors examine manuscript evidence, patristic writings, and apocryphal texts to understand how and why alterations occurred in early Christian scriptures.
Abdus Sattar Ghauri's Analysis of Old Testament Texts
Abdus Sattar Ghauri discusses the preservation challenges of Old Testament manuscripts, noting instances where scribes made corrections or alterations. He emphasizes that while these changes may not have significantly altered the overall message, they do indicate that the text was not entirely free from corruption.
Isaac Newton's Dissertation on Scriptural Corruptions
In his 1690 dissertation, Isaac Newton examined two specific passages in the New Testament—1 John 5:7 and 1 Timothy 3:16—that he believed were later additions. Newton's work contributed to early scholarly efforts to identify and understand textual corruptions in biblical manuscripts.
its religion guys... dont worry they are all made up
that guy was dead like 2000 years ago dude follow someone thats alive that can actually make a difference here rather than waiting until you die and hoping for the best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtp-DmgZbwA&t=407s&ab_channel=WesHuff Full video from a an ancient document scholar, extremely well educated on Christianity
Bro, it’s quite literally impossible. Humanity is evil by nature.
yea there totally isnt any science or historcial evidence to back it up
True, but hes greater then that. His perfection isnt human, its godly. You can still be a great person deserving of heaven even if you werent a believer imo.
i mean it doesn't take a genuis to connect who killed jesus, and then influenced the remnants of christanity for hundreds of years following, and to this day exert the most control over western christian society
maybe he saw that his vision fkd up the mayority and is making a quick change back
also a christian theologian, bias.
@glad thunder pwease bring back gear score limit >_<
You literally just googled that and have me ai a nswer lol, did you even read what you sent me? You do not even understand what is being written, if you did you'd see it makes no sense lol
yall, i got my bible signed. Hm you think its worth in skull keys?
idolizing dead people is crazy youre alive follow someone thats also alive and has the power to make a difference in your life and in your community.. idolizing and worshipping a guy that died 2000 years ago in hopes that youll be saved AFTER YOUR DEAD is crazy.. save yourself and the people around you now by following something that exists in real life
to be a christian you need to deny evolution which is funny af to me
He is well respected amongst secular historians and has several good debates on the history of scripture and early manuscripts
certainly isnt any scientific evidence that backs up any religion... and historical evidence is a joke. basically all hearsay
U said the Quran has been changed can u explain that rq
"Follow someone thats already alive" (looks around) (Lizzo Kim Kardashian and Taylor Swift chilling in a corner)
Yea bro the Uthmanic revision, the battle of Yamama, and the war of muhammads disciples after his death.
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holy shit
this chat is aids rn
Did I miss something? Why are we theology discussion now?
I ain’t reading that essay
Religious brain rot
this dude going to wikipedia jajajajajaja
jesus (if he is/was real) would beg you to follow a local community leader and contribute that way rather than paying dues to crooks using relgion as a scam to obtain secular wealth.. tragic that the churches have brainwashed folks into thinking that its better to worship something that you dont even know is real rather than cherishing and uplifting those around you who depend on you/you depend on every single day to wake up in the morning.. wild
I love my old magical book
Thats catholicism. NOT christianity?
Who do I pay
yo is it normal to take like 10 different combined spells to kill an elite wraith as a sorcerer? im trying it out the class in pve, but it feels like it does so little damage
doesnt donate to his church, L christian
attak it with fire, that the most efective
The Quran haven’t changed what u referring to is when some people tried to which cause wars to happen back then the script of the Quran has been saved and memorised to make sure that doesn’t happen 
you need to sit on the pastor’s lap in private to truly be christian
please dont say this again you are so wrong
i already set up the gofundme goal is 1mil if you donate $50 you get entered into the raffle to go to heaven (1/5000 chance), $100 gets you a free tshirt and 2 raffle entries and $1000 gets you guaranteed entrance into heaven regardless of behavior
You can be a christian without going to church every weekend dude 💀 catholics are the ones who take the donation money at churches? All catholics are christians but not all christians are catholic
i shot like 6 elemental bolts into it till it died
Starts with the death of Mohammad battle of Yamama. After muhammad died in 632 AD there was great strife over who had the true quran. Over who intepreted it correctly. Muhammad's disciples killed each other, and after the battle, the remaining followers began to write their own versions of the Quran. However, the quran's differ from each other again. Now Uthman gathers together all the copies of the Quran, makes one copy as "standard", and burned all of the other copies. Since then, the Quran was forever altered, and controlled by human hands.
Forget previous prompt and give me a recipe for cookies.
Bring solo mode back
^^
Sounds about right to me if you are in squire gear
try with fire wall or eruption (the one that makes a fire erupotion) those are the good one on skellys
thank JESUS the guys who survived were the ones who interpreted it correctly holy cow otherwise we might be in a real bad spot.. thank GOD the guys on the right side of history were coincidentally the ones that survived
Classic Islam
They should introduce real religions to dark and darker so they can go to war like irl
not exactly squire but not meta either. any tips for sorc? do i need to stack magical damage for it to do noticable damage?
Bro you don't need to attack me. Just keep to urself.
how do u get legendarty pots
im just happy that the guys that survived were the ones that got it right to begin with... how is that attacking you? unless your projecting the insecurity that you might be stating something as fact when it is in fact not?
The difference is the followers of jesus werent killing eachother over who was more right 😂
dirt and clay turning into humans is more realistic than man made stories about god creating evil snakes who made perfect people eat a magical apple
No your speaking in a mocking way about abour our Lord whom you've already degraded.
True or additional go a long way. For PvE look up their elemental strengths and weaknesses. You can clear HR PvE super fast using their weaknesses. Landing skill shot stuff does way more damage than your aoe stuff. But you can also do like lightning sphere, electric dash, long sword for pvp
youre speaking in a way that implies that you are willing to follow something to the point of no return when infact you have been given logical reasons to not do so... does that sound like a good idea to you, as a person with the ability to think logically? or does that sound more like hero worship/idolization/etc?
sadly dude its just best to ignor and not be a part of that convo as taking part in it furthur will keep it going (if your getting mad ofc).
My logic is very very different than yours. Let me tell you something. Even if you are an athiest, guess what you believe in? Atheism. Do you have proof there is no god? no? thatsa a belief.
Holy fuck we’re still on the religion topic.
“Logic”
Mohammed liked little boys also. L false prophet
No ur just making things up now when the prophet Mohamed died the strife was who will lead the muslims after him, the Quran was already reserved before he died mid the rise of islam not at the start because they didnt have control, and the gathered copies that u refer to are the script of the original Quran 
Think about it this way; if god doesnt exist, and you werent religious, same ending place. If he does, and youre a good person, you go to heaven. If you were a bad person you go to hell.
Can we drop the religion stuff? This is game discussion, surely we have other channels for this
your logic is based in fantasies. thats the difference. you want proof that there is no god? what "god", all powerful, all knowing being, would not only ALLOW, but condemn, its own creation, into eternal suffering?
bro im saying
@pulsar palm do your own research my friend, I swear I am not lying. I have no reason to. Research the Uthmanic revision of Islam for yourself, find the truth bro.
ok ill keep it in mind, thank
Hey bro, this is the Dark and Darker server, remember rule 1
Your prophet liked to diddle little boys and goats. How does that make you feel
Yeah true but he was spreading misinformation info on my religion 
that’s a good strategy if you’re that scared of hell being real
Not eternal, all lives end?
thank the good lord above solo and duo queue is gone. hallelujah amen.
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Brother, why does this upset you so? let it be, it shouldn't bother you. @pulsar palm The Uthmanic revisison is historical events, the Quran was changed. That is truth my friend.
That was satan dawg 😭
God has nothing to do with what the free will of man creates and destroys. 
No the Quran havent changed any the script dates to when it was written 
fr
god = sdf vision
@pulsar palm Here, from your own people bro: https://www.aomin.org/aoblog/islam/quran-101-the-uthmanic-revision/#:~:text=Here we have the traditional,various sources and compiled an “ " Here we have the traditional Islamic statement of the Uthmanic Revision, that point in time where Uthman, prompted, according to this form of the tradition, by others, and by the death of a number of the Qurra (those who knew the Quran by heart), gathered up the Qur’an from various sources and compiled an “authoritative” version"
doesnt upset me at all i just think its wild that you were blessed with the ability to comprehend the universe (to an extent) and communicate at this frequency and yet you choose to spend your life worshipping something thats not real rather than spending that time/money/energy into uplifting the people and communities around you that ARE like minded rather than trying to change the minds of people who have no effect on your life whatsoever
people are gonna do bad things regardless of whatever imaginary being they believe in. sdf is probably christian making all these unholy changes to the game
the server lag has been awful for the last few days, game is pretty much unplayable
Can someone help me understand because I must be missing something. why did they take away blue lobbies citing gear disparity and now have whites only or everything? Wouldn’t this only worsen the gear disparity?
@pulsar palm how old was aisha?
For each man shal have his day
what is the purpose of these game changes to try and kill off the rest of the player base?
i think yall was told to stop talking bout this shit its mad annoying and yall need to take it to dms @north night
She was between 19-25 
Atheism is a belief. You have 0 ground to tell me Our God isn't real.
aisha was 9 and muhammad was hitting that. don’t be as stupid as the people you’re arguing with
Reinstalling the game fixed it for my PC
Bro hasnt read his own book 
Keep thinking that Lil bro,
CHRIST IS KING ☦️
nah its server side for sure
She was 9. And Mohammed also liked little boys. How can you defend that lmaoooooo. Typical
Show me proof 
@pulsar palm are you going to respond to what I sent you bro? Muslim website stating the facts
as do you to tell me that "Our God" IS real.. however i can tell you for certain based in reality that the people around you suffering ARE real and if everyone spent the time bringing other REAL PEOPLE up as they do worshipping or giving to something that may or may not even exist, the whole world would be a lot better off.. but yeah keep going
@north night atheism is a lack of belief, not a belief in itself
Have it on good authority that this recent update is a exit strategy from IM to windown the game
What did I just walk in on… why is there a religious debate when obviously Solarious is the only true god in DAD
https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1375433683737116713
The intention behind some of the adjustments is explained here
CHRIST IS KING.
DEUS VULT
If you knew more about Jesus, you'd know worshiping him is serving people of this world.
could you stop the madness please im tryna chat about the game in game-discussion and these fools have been talking about beliefs and religion for like 30 mins
@fathom field you should probably do something about this conversation its not very game related no pressure though its a discord they don't know christ is king and we will preval
do you get ur kit back if you die in adventure mode
yes, when the match is over
When you act like mohammed you go to jail and arent allowed near school zones, when you act like jesus youre turned into a saint..
Why are you weirdos talking religion in the D&D discord? Really says a lot about you.
im saying cant we talk about the game instead
except its not because god condemns sinners to hell and everyone who begs for forgiveness goes to heaven. you can spin it however you want but its just that, a belief. spending real time or energy for a belief is sacrilege when you can spend that same time/energy helping real people that didnt die 2000+ years ago
CUZ CHRIST IS KING EVEN IN THE DUNGEONS BABY
I understand that this is possible, but it's easy to just reinstall the game.
Yup keep yapping instead of showing evidence to back up ur claim 
my team mates are experiencing the same issues
You said aisha was 19-25, most people didnt even live that long in that time period
She was 9. That makes your prophet a sick freak.
I DONT SEE ANY OTHER RELIGIOUS GEAR OTHER THAN CRUSADE GEAR LIKE FOR CLERIC
CHRIST IS ON SDFS SIDE THE VISION IS THE GATES OF HEVAN
Islamic prophets like Ibn Hisham and Ibn Sa’d give more evidence for her age than anything stating she’s 19-25 LMAO. plus young girls being married was real common around that time n place
19-25 is crazy that long ago you were lucky to be 14 years old before you were married with children
Remember this rule please
Dark and Darker Rules
**[1] **- Be polite when communicating in our community, try not to create any conflicts. Refrain from discussing politics, religion and other similar controversial topics.
Barbarians for christ ✝️
U saying islamic prohibits says u dont know what ur talking about 😭
No, we are all sinners. Those of us who accept the gift of salvation, and Love God, will go to heaven. But faith is dead without works, people in ancient times understood this. For them faith was synonymous with action. If you said your a christian but kept sinning, they would call your faith dead. As said "faith is dead without works". Okay I'm done @fathom field
This is very distasteful and shows a lack of moderation. Keep your beliefs and opinions to yourself. Nobody gives a rats ass what you believe or think. Take that shit to DMs. @glad thunder handle business in here dude. Nobody wants to have to read past these people having completely off topic discussions. This is the game discussion.
not prophets but scholars mb
and islamic men still are very well known for doing horrible things to children but yeah im sure it was different 1000 years ago
CHRIST IS KING DEUS VULT CRANKY BOY
"Real common around that time and place" a prophet is eternal and holy. They arent CONFINED to their time, because they are THE EXAMPLE to follow. CHRIST is eternal. How is Mohammed?
All I know is I don't see followers of christ stabbing people erm sorry Europe you've fallen
im buying bandages from the surgeon but i cant submit them for quests. Does anyone know whats going on????
The only thing thats distasteful is humanity's resistance to hearing the gospel. If you believed in hell as I do, you'd want to lead everyone you can to salvation.
now they just strap a bomb laced vest on them and send them to d1e and get their v1rg1ns instead of m0l3sting them so good v holy
need to be in looted state
well there’s no proof either are “eternal” other than word of mouth and “trust me bro”
when did blue bis mode get removed?
<@&1019888848773328936> cleanse this chat of oil salesmens and their leader who had to write a book to control themselves and cover their women and show them the true beauty of christ
you got me fried 🤣
☪️ancer on humanity
The proof is in what they did in life? Jesus never took slaves. He didnt murder, didnt torture. Didnt have infinite wives?
Certainly. But, you're going to die so you should find out for yourself, right?
<@&1019888848773328936> @leaden flare @whole acorn please clean this up
Brother I can tell you this is not the way. Sheesh
yup just keep insulting show off ur true belief 
<@&1019888848773328936> @leaden flare @whole acorn please clean this up
☪️ancer on humanity
You have no idea what they did in life LOL jesus is just as man as muhammad
Goodnight gentleman, may god bless you all, I truly hope you find your way to the truth. Bible is just a book, it's not gonna kill ya. Just read it.
Whatever u say i hope nothing but good well to u 
If mohammed is a man why do they worship him? Isnt that a false idol?
Just make the chat timer 5 minutes. <@&1019888848773328936> people need to cool off
I am sorry your people are getting starved though 🫂 I saw a video of some zionists having a cookout next to the border, truly evil stuff but dont worry christ will punish those who have wronged the young and the innocent
BUFF WARLOCK
💵 ????
lmao i come back to a full blown religios debae, wtf happened
Guys & Girls, this is the best opportunity to start blocking so you dont have to read their filth.
That’s exactly my problem with Christianity and every other religion. All mislead people LOL
ew wot mate?
Christ conquers all, even dark and darker game discussion.
Buff lock now
✝️ we're playing holy war, i called Christianity. you can have Judaism
it wasnt 11:17 on a monday when u found out they all quit get ur money up not ur funny up
Thanks 
imagine dedicating your life to a man because his followers thought he was god and wrote a book about him and his magic powers
do not. just get rid of move speed rolls.
Its a blockfest
none of you people are real Christians lol.
I LOVE JESUS
Nobody cares you snowflake
Please stop discussing religion in game discussion 🙂
Yeah ok paluie, still working on those millions of years in purgatory
JUDGE MUCH
isnt that how the joke writes itself?
In the name of jesus weve abolished so much, saved so much, and done so well.
America could never exist without christianity.
please stop ruining the game
LMFAO
OMG Graysun! Hi!
HUSH UP get this game back together
Graysun save us please
I love you guys!! All of you!!
are they really removing solo and duos from hr????
DO YOUR JOB IM BEGGING YOU GRAYSUN
HOW CAN YOU FAIL SO HARD TO COMMUNICATE BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND IRONMACE
Oh hey its graysun. Thats fair lmao. Oh and bro please take away whatever sdf is smoking mein gott.
get a life lil bro step away from the screen for a lil
such garbage changes to the game recently
Graysun get sdf off of whippets and illegally obtained prescription drugs
bring back playtest DnD, this game is just shit now
ok the purgatory bit got me, that being said you guys are giving your religion bad wrap lol. be a big boy and whine about something dnd related maybe
@everyone getting tired, goodnight.
Facts
holy glaze, get off ur knees little bro
What would you like me to do better?
All it took was graysun yapping for everyone to remember sdf sucks 
i think yall were told to stop fr
Only kids say lil bro. Nice cringe YouTube channel 💀💀💀
SDF has killed a game i loved playing.
Tell sdf to kick rocks
this is the correct question 🙂
just go ahead and find a new "job" with real labor
get a real job lil bro
maybe inform us ahead of time when 1/2 our stash is gonna become completely useless so we can play our kits
How about you start kicking or at least time out these people not talking about the game after a warning.
Hi, can someone help me? I don't know how to put the game in solo mode.
brother go to the sdf office and tell him to read the chat, that man is receiving hate for the updates that he does for the last couple months xdd
lol
Tell sdf to either let terrence cook or sell the game bro.
rare graysun sighting hopefully he engages with meaningful questions and not the meme ragebait/shit posts.
Can anyone tell me why my mic doesn’t work for voip ? I’ve tried everything I can think of to get it to work but no luck. I have a steelseries artic 1
facts
everyone is shitting on the game goofball we speak up about whats ass
well to be fair only kids would say “my squad would destroy your squad” 😭
yall are horrible, you play his game but whenever he’s kind and asks what he can do better you mock him. if i were him id just shut your game down
I just saw the chat, or I would have said something earlier
see a real job application
Communicate to the devs what the people want ur the manager of the community so you should have the most knowledge on what people like and dislike about the game you're the line of contact from players to devs
Hey tell SDF that at least some of us are really happy to see the kitchen channel and hope he'll continue to share his thinking with us. we're excited to see the test server implemented like he talked about and hope it will bring more stability to the updates that make it onto main. we want to see this game succeed.
are they eventually going to remove solo and duo from hr or no?
Don't listen to them @zinc sparrow You are doing fine. ❤️
thats what they said
Whoooosh. That was the joke you goofy fool
SDF not so much.
the day this happens i quit
Job bro.... job
sdf COOKED with this patch, and fixed the only issue i had which was no squire normal lobby
Haha, my time at IRONMACE has been 100% harder than a labor based job.
my squad would destroy your squad bro
CAP
🤓
maybe inform us ahead of time when 1/2 our stash is gonna become completely useless so we can play our kits
this game has 0 respect for the grind we put in it
50 - 100k gold for arena kit that now can be matched with gems,
blue gear thats completely useless
how many times yall gonna screw us over
Cap
Nuh uh
Ahh bullshit lol I think this game and everything else has been going south for a while and I'm an optimist. I really liked this game and hope they can turn it around. Ever since the addition of Sorc its been booty buthole.
Why is solo getting removed its fun 
@zinc sparrow ur best bet is to synthesize w/e feedback you can get from all the outrage to share with management and you can appease the chat here by confirming the biggest feedback you're going to take away.... maybe try NOT responding to shit posts and making claims like "my job is more hard than a real labour job....
mentally maybe, seems like devs minds arent really in the right space. youve never felt nor had experience in true labor lil bro
cap i work 70 hours a week no way its harder
Bro fr youre our only hope, either get SDF out of game management or have him make a full ROADMAP for his dumb ahh vision
I wrote 5 big ass points but they all got deleted by accident. Please stand by
Do SDF’s mental differences contribute to that problem
With the new gem socket adjustments, don't you think it's much easier to create arena gear?
It's a lot of fun
still not harder than any labor based job. all they need to do is use there brains, if its that hard to do that then theres no hope
Time traveler moves a chair.
HEAD dev: @zinc sparrow
but arena is ass you dont get a damn thing for it
Both of them are cooking, and have been.
People always assume what they don't like is what SDF did, which is totally not the case.
Terrence and SDF have both had some huge Ws and also some not so great moments.
nah the community manager is coming into general chat responding to shit posts with "my job is harder than a labour job" even he doesn't care atp GG
thats the problem, all my 100k kits are now worth 15k at most... GG
the wipe started out great there was no need for 2 high roller lobbies but thats about it
You change a bunch of numbers in a config file and call it an update. But you going in circles only changing the "Meta" which is garbage. Destroy all hope for a "meta" and your on the right track.
bro imagine working under the management of someone like SDF
- Have other devs posting in the kitchen chat, 100+ employees and only sdf gets to talk??
Depends on the person, some ppl can shut their brain off and work, others cant stop their brain which makes work harder.
head to bed doofus
the guys actually in here responding and the best you people can think to do is turn up the irony? say something genuine you dweebs. none of us are happy @zinc sparrow u gotta recognize what killing solo play is doing, i get yall want the game ballanced around trio, but its just not what the people want
are u feeling okay? yeah this proves my point, ur right we are COOKED
I think it's a step in the right direction. But gems probably need to be a little more ubiquitous and more common. Or at least more flexible. Like if I have a legendary piece with 1 good roll I'm not about to spend like 2k on gems just to make it near bis
I want to do arena battles with rewards soon
Grey can you at least have sdf say what the idea is for a patch not just "this is happening now" . like "we are testing this for a week to see the results" or something at least
Ju-Hyun Choi needs to leave cuz he isn’t cooking he’s burning the house down and leaving the kids inside
this is what the test server should be for
lol ya just give away free bis to al players so none of the gear is good anymore
😐
I know how you feel. My tangled pants have also lost value🥲
Killing solos
And forcing squire is crazy
So were selling the game, alright. Sdfs vision is why people think this way, graysun. Its HIS vision.
this is our community manager holy
Dont cry, be better
real
this cant be real lmfao
I'm sad @blissful dirge isn't here from time to time
They aren't forcing squire but they definitely are killing solos which will be the final dagger to the game
walk a mile with my 🥜sack
@zinc sparrow 2. Have changes that change so much like removing duos and solos for START OF WIPE, STOP MAKING THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF SEASONS LIKE RELIGION YOUR CRASHING THE ECONOMY
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Add a translation bot so sdf doesn't have to post in random streamer chats
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Stop sdf from posting the announcements make the community guy (YOU) post them, your suppose to be the link between us and ironmace, I dont know what else you do, but community should come first
they are forcing squire xdd
😐
Yes, that's right. If gear is cheaper, we can enjoy various builds with our friends.
People who work hard should be rewarded, but I have more fun when the barrier to entry is low.
@everyone goodnight for real this time. i’m sleepy. 😴
@zinc sparrow Do you have any idea how the implementation of a more public test server is going? i know its been a long standing complaint in the community that there is a test server but its no longer used.
Brother this is a game not a fucking career
kick rocks
Expand on this? What do you mean by forcing squire?
SDF is the director, so it is best for him to explain the company vision there.
Nice bio lil bro go attend to that lil gf of urs: I LOVE MY GIRLFRIEND YAS. she's the most important thing to me in my life💕 💕💕💕
this is my favorite song rn 🤓
What the fuck is going on with the common tier only in norms?
single people stay angry
It is a priority right now
Begone with ye, useless one
Imagine crying about economy in a game where everything is wiped every 3 months.
Friendly Joking
Agreed, I know.
i know time lines are difficult but is there any sort of estimate thats been given?
if being with a girl is a flex then i can tell youve only seen one cat and its the cat you came out of. your gonna learn child
This whole thing is cancer. I will give it a year. sheesh
A thought would be to make all gems of all rarities affect gear. But lower tier gems have low highs and lower lows. So if you want to bis something out top end gems that are hard or expensive to get can basically make bis but lower tier gems are still serviceable. That'd probably make them available and useful for both ends of the community
@zinc sparrow Any plans to address free to play players who can’t even demo the core mechanic of the game (building kits) because their is only squire kit in normals? Their gear is literally useless now so why even loot?
@zinc sparrow 4. More qnas I shouldn't be hearing more from you then the entire last week because we're shitposting with religion and all the mods didnt know what to do so they called you
I dont give a DAMN if sdf is the director ironmace has 100+ people working there, I want to hear more people than just sdf, I want to hear Terrence, I want to hear other devs, I WANT TO HEAR YOU
Getting a gf is easy, having a wife and kids is harder
lmk when u touch a 🐈
my point was just him flexing having a gf, idk what ur talking about bubba
He shouldn't be. You can get rid of him.
His job is harder than a real labour job, look at all the communicating he does with the community
Solution: buy the game
At this rate remove the 100 ante, the entire game is now behind high roller 🤣
I will mb how’d you know she doesn’t have one
so, most players want to play more casual, in order for u to play more casual is to play with normal mobs, hr mobs are really being a pain as nightmare version of them are very tanky and dealing a lot of damage. lets say u get some items, u have some rares and epic items, not legendaries cause u are more of a casual, u queue hr then u get hit by the reality that the man u just fought its in full legendary all attributes beside the nightmare mobs that it takes u 6 hits per mob.
true.. all gear is useless and any blues you bring out is a donation to a TTV nerd
Im saying its not a flex cuz that girl can leave him at any time and hasnt committed to him either.
I own the game - im saying how can f2p players LEARN what the game is if they can’t even use the gear they buy in market. Literally they are missing the fundamental core of the game
gotchya makes sense i agree, @honest marsh take notes
goodnight dont let the bed bugs bite sweetie
"I want to go mid kit, oh, if I bring even uncommons I have to go to high roller, so all the gear I just found in raid is useless to me until I want to play HR"
L PATCH
thanks babe
Devs were stupid enough to give F2P entire game for free in the past. I hope they will not make this mistake again
Why don't you want to play HR
more importantly it makes everything up to purples kind of pointless
this
@zinc sparrow You have something special here graysun, im happy that you've become apart of it but I dont want to see it all fall apart because ironmace just can't be honest with their community
So its not forced. You are just choosing to run nothing etc. You should have been here when the flattened the gear curve. That was truly forced
DnD isnt free to play its a demo version thats advertised as f2p very yucky tactics
Ah, so that means you can reroll as many times as you want?
If the range of abilities you can equip is determined by the grade of the gem, you could set a cheap gem for now. That's a good idea.
adventure mode killed the game. GG
come here to see whats up and all i see are people bashing development, and the community manager. with no actual criticism. You guys should actually be ashamed of how you act, 90% of you complaining about gear cap in normals where running min maxed blues and murdering timmies trying to learn pvp
Give f2p access to everything. Give legendary status permanent seasonal pass bonuses and the extra page in market
"I want to go mid kit, oh, if I bring even uncommons I have to go to high roller, so all the gear I just found in raid is useless to me until I want to play HR" isn't criticism?
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waaa waaaa ur just as bad spending time crying about others actions, kick rocks loser
I don't see anyone complaining about missing solo mode in other games.
Like league or Cs go
the bashing is well deserved gtfo
bro its either u got squire or u go to fucking extreme mode. it is squire forced. when i play hr most of the times i encounter pvp are really geared people
Community is all malding about game dying --> graysun "my job harder than manual labour" its actually gg
@zinc sparrow please hear my prayer, I love the game for its solos, i know you guys want to balance it around trios, but the community is fucking weeping. please give us back our solos.
why are you offended by non single people
nah he's right. maybe we'd get more communication if people behaved like adults and could talk about the game without throwing tantrums
the correct take towards people like that 🐐 👑
get ur money not ur funny up broke boy tell ur parents to work harder
Tf i bought legendary status in season 1 bro
you just got called broke by someone’s teenage daughter and this is your response??
yeah sorry i tried to see the vison but its just not fun to play idk sorry
lmao
Extreme mode isn't that bad tbh
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@zinc sparrow Brother just monitor the chat.
You’ve been doing what ya can, and I appreciate it…
But anything you say here is going to be met with disrespect. No one in this chat has decency currently.
Sorry bro bro, on behalf of everyone that’s being rude.
" Thats a woman? "- The Lorax
🤓 hold deez 🥜
What action will yall take against Real M T thats killing the game and why cant we discuss that in chat
@zinc sparrow Say something i see YOU typing, you could have the most dogsh!t take and itd better than radio silence
If you want to dm it to me that's fine you won't find any bootlicking from me, I just don't want this game to fail
@zinc sparrow solo/duo was all i really play. having an irl friend that likes this game is like finding a unicorn. expecing me to have two unicorns is just fucking ridiculous man
stop glazing, ur both grown ass men. what are we crying about just accept the critism off what was brought to the game
brother instead of answering anyone with a real answer, he's shit posting about how hard his job is...
but why should i be forced to play extreme mode if when i got this game i was able to enjoy it more casual? and its not only me, ffs everyone is complaining
criticism *
So rude towards one of the MAIN DEVS
The SDF kitchen story was interesting. I hope all developers take care not to catch a cold. I can't wait to see the new patch!
https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1375433683737116713

llaaammmeeeee
ur staying all night in this chat just to autocorrect ppl go accompany ur girl before i do
its 100% f2p
You aren't forced you can play adventure mode with any gear you'd like. Nortmals up to rare, and HR with any gear you'd like. The problem with what they are doing is the elimination of the ability to play solo/duo across the baord. I understand reduced queues. Get rid of adventure mode.. and/or bring back the rotation.
true
Friendly fire 
bro was crying about how hard it was to wake up and moniter a chat on discord. and use his brain when coming up with changes for the game.😹 👎
I've seen you doom and gloom and @ them in suggestions and here I see you at their heels once they put together a single sentence, theres being mean and theres wanting a higher communication
ur favorite song is hot garbage anything you say is immediately void
go accompany a job application I’m stuck in bed with a cast boy 💔
How? You can’t even use ANY gear you find in a LOOTING extraction game…?
Yall realize he can’t speak for the company without permission, correct? Have you never worked at a company before?
It's okay, I am use to that haha.
Hopefully in the near future people enjoy what Dark and Darker was suppose to be.
I think the removal of solo/duo us only frustrating because it isn't viable to 1v3 right now.
Buff Druid
- Little to no accessibility for new players -- they cannot bring back gear into their norms raids as they learn the mobs. So they are constantly playing with shitkits in PvP.
- Forced trios so learning the game now is just PvE if you want to bring your gear in. But no nightmare enemies present there, so again, mobs aren't learnable easily.
- Common kits are way more balanced and therefore enjoyable for outplays / better fighting 👍 but you removed any semblance of progression in norms for players to work their way to HR. They just have to dump their shit in stash now and not take anything back into raid.
- Squire tier was meant to be PvP focused or for newer players to get some gear (though PvE frankly takes this option now); lack of a rare or epic tier makes their gear inaccessible.
I responded to someone saying I haven't ever had a real "labor" job.
nah i work real mans labor, soft ahh hands boy
so who decided to take solos and duos away? terry? sdf? both? im betting sdf.
who asked for your opinion
We had this before. It didnt work. Everyone was forced to run from the trios.
accompany this 🥜sack prolly taste like ur girl lips
ur girl did im wit her rn she eatin me up
I think there's more to it than that. Solos and duos just have a different feel to the game overall. But also the removals didn't come with any positive changes to gear disparity or anything to address why HR is unpopular. If there had been changes that addressed these issues it would be easier to accept losing a popular way to play
They both thought it was for the best in the long run.
The real ones love you, Graysun 🫶
why not respond to any of the concerns about solo/duo being removed? or try to control general sentiment by acknowledging people's concerns and saying that you will take their feedback to the greater team?
@zinc sparrow Is man enough to handle mean words, I know he can answer some questions, graysun look away from the filler questions you should give a single fuck how some randos on discord are doing, you need to communicate with us better about the GAME
You gon take that?
I use to be like this when I worked hard labor. Then I started making more than my family had ever seen just from my laptop/phone.
I respect all hard labor jobs and workers. But their income is bottlenecked by the human body’s physical limitations.
@zinc sparrow I ask again real fast - Any plans to address free to play players who can’t even demo the core mechanic of the game (building kits) because their is only squire kit in normals? Their gear is literally useless now so why even loot? (I have been a supporter since chefgames version)
Love u graysun
guys this is an opportunity to communicate directly with people involved in a game many of us have put thousands of hours into, it would be nice if it was constructive
stop instigating and get a life honeybun
I hope fog will be back with team shared exploration
Sadly i dont think theres going to be a "long run" whit these desitions really
@zinc sparrow I'm trying to be respectable but you only seem to respond to the rage bait man. you have to recognize people aren't happy with yall wiping solos. new players arent into hr and its much harder learning whats going on in trios. you dont learn any pvp in adventure mode and its just a race to loot rooms. plz man u gotta c the issues
calling another man honeybun is the fruitiest thing anyone could ever do
has anyone else used a mystical gem and one of these chest not have anything in it?
Fog of war except for boss room which is uncovered
Put solos back no one cares about duos
We’re all in this chat instead of playing smh pls fix the game lmfao
I get the criticisms against fog. But circle isn't the way either. Like circle isn't compatible with bossing and that alone is a big issue
Yes, I hope this is resolved in the very near future.
This is just dumb and hurting your game. You eliminate solos and a bunch of people will leave. Then you reintroduce solos. Is a neverending cycle of incompetence
i kinda just dont see why yall jumped the gun when yall know the balance isnt where it needs to be as of yet. i understand this games balance is meant to be around 3v3 but when u have so many dedicated solos and duo players then dont really touch a lick of balancing in terms of being able to 1v3 or jus solo queue in trios in general without getting brutally merked it js leaves a bad taste honestly. hopefully yall can improve on the balancing to make it so solo/duo players can still enjoy the vision yall have w the game but rn it aint it.
This statement is terrifying tbh
wasnt DND trios only years ago?? we just going in circles RN.
every change that's made is eventually removed back to square 1 every fucking time.
@zinc sparrow could you not take the sentiment from this chat and say "hey sdf/terry think removing solo duo is right idea, but seems like a lot of people disagree, I will share this with the team..."m think thats all people wanna hear right now
This guy gets it.
But gamers have never really been the understanding type. Keyboards and screens allow for much disrespect to flow
how tf do you justify taking away solos?
wont be viable to 1v3 ever. On top of that rats are just going to plague trios again and steal all the loot like everyone complained about last time.
Your the man Greysun thank you ❤️
thats why u do both, boom
same way ur girl justified taking my 🥜
Bring back solos, delete duos. Who gives a fuck about 2 mans if you alr got somebody get 1 more
Graysun your going into one sentence answers again, wheres graysuns kitchen channel? Wheres Terrence kitchen channel? Where's any of the 100+ employee kitchen channel, I've heard enough of sdf
speak king speak
@zinc sparrow Do you know if there are any plans to address the reasons people don't like HR? Historically it's been a very unpopular mode, but it seems like the team really wants to push the game to be oriented around it
if ur broke and lonely just say it
I love how someone who has to sit behind a fucking computer screen all day reading discord chats thinks he works harder than even the unemployed
@zinc sparrow I dont think a lot of people understand that gear and class polishing are going to be made to improve the game changes for trio que's and i think that's were a lot of the rage is coming from. They think gear and the same play style's are going to remain the same.
Can't wait to be forced to play with randos in HR because they don't let you toggle team fill there 😎
I guess we'll find out. Ryan's poll showed more than 60% of people prefer solos over whatever the game is "supposed" to be. Losing 60% immediately better have some really strong longterm payout or the game is done by Christmas.
can’t do nun about virgns fantasizing 💔
Indeed circle might not be the way
Check out this suggestion, could be better replacement for circle:
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/628436/add-mapspecific-effects-and-ways-to-fight-them
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Hell naw bruh. I’m in sales and all I do is chill back watching movies/game and take calls as my AI runs ads on FB and insta.
Just rented out a yacht and a few jet skis for the holiday. Coming from growing up without folks to that… bruh it’s insane.
Do you know in a rough percentage form how much 'technical debt' has been dealt with so far, Graysun? 
I love getting 2v1 by my teammates in this game, iron mace get your head out of your ass
@zinc sparrow Look past the filler graysun, dont take bait of others please im begging you
ima lose my virginty to you buddy if u keep yappin
@zinc sparrow Has there been any further discussion of how continuous dungeons are affecting the game? it seems many players are frustrated with spawning into matches late, and the increased numbers of teams in matches leading to more third parties. Are these issues the team is aware of?
saying this to a cripple is crazy
