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I mean you’re not wrong but that happened when they removed gear score
Well have fun everyone ill check back tomorrow hopefully solos is back
Solos is gone for atleast two weeks
Lol well i quit then latwr
Is there any up to date interactive maps which shows the res shrines and loot for current maps?
No
The maps are randomized every match
Does it tho ? I kind of like the necessity to learn the maps it adds depth and friction
Just game knowledge fixes that
Good thing midnight walkers has a playtest next week they arnt full of themselves and would never take solos out before trios
I mean trios shouldn’t be taken out that’s just a bad take
Lol thats the point taking out the party size option period is a horrible idea
there are just look up dark and darker interactive maps
There were at least three other options that were better than this one
I have, they were very wrong
They could have removed abyss and less people would have been mad
@everyone
Should they have removed solos from normals? No maybe not but that’s the only bad change really
They wont be the same layout, they will still show where shrines and stuff are tho for each room
There were several better solutions and they really went with the nuclear option
Like what ?
I just said it read
Remove a whole map ?
Map rotation is probably my first solution. That or just have a pre-game lobby like we used to.
Shit, I would've even taken having GC/Icecaves/Ruins be locked to solos/duos/trios respectively
imo each map should be for its own subset of players, goblins caves can have solos, ice can have duos, and castle can have trios
The game USED to work like this at one point lmao
map rotation alone could have fixed it I feel
A map that no one plays but to ap farm compared to a whole 1/3 of your community upset yes clearly removing a whole map would have had less people mad
Such a bad take lol
That's what I think too, since everyone gets to do everything; you might just have to wait a few minutes
i miss gear score too
Do you even have a take at all?
My guy would rather remove preexisting content then lose solos for normals
whats the discord for artifacts
Oh, so that's the take. Yeah, that's not a good one.
Solos were added back in Playtest 4 my guy
nothing has changed, a play on the name of a barbarian and a warrior
@inner egret lol i count 3 other things they can do and people still cooking looks like you lack critical thinking skills
do you need more than 1 cockatrice egg? i somehow keep getting it but no feather, should i hand it off to someone
dog why are u defending them nuking their most played gamemode? its dumb and im not gonna run pvp untill my solo is back, i dont want to spend 5 minutes looking through a discord every time i get on for a couple raids. its fucking dumb
anyone know when the next arena test will be?
Oh, they didn't nuke the most played gamemode, they actually nuked 5 out of 6 normals lobbies and three of the HR ones too. It might just be the dumbest change yet
Straight up they just need to bring back rotation from pre-continuous. It’s insane to me that they went with the current solution over that, like they forgot they had an answer to this problem
Yeah I’ve given it many times
I think it should be solos and trios only
0-124
125-224
225+
No map rotation although I’m not opposed to it
Yeah or autofill your team and end up with someone 56 gear score and 56 IQ!
fun
you seem like ur struggling, im an athlete i bench around ~250 so life is pretty easy for me XD get some owne in ur life haha
This right here
People say "Make friends." I have friends, who play other shit. My monkey sphere is already maxed out and I cant be assed to find a crew every single time I want to just play a few dungeon runs.
and have any of you actually play hr since?
Na id rathe get new content point blank but all we ever get are stat changes and non kept promises lol backpacks and quivers have been in the works for 2 years!
124s is trash and isn't a good starting point. After my Sorc got killed by a Rogue (I played it poorly, to be fair) and I checked the deathcam only to realize that this nerd had a legendary stilleto that he brought in, I realized 124s was cooked
erm, i own fulgor. id venture to say you do not. there is no struggle, only suffering from the game
pulled four his wipe.. and i have two wives so... XD
Legendary stilletto was his whole gearscore tho and a min maxed 124 kit would run him over
i agree but maybe with a gear score rework it could be a possibilty
you mean thw two wifes i just banged? ya get powned loser
it was NOT his whole gearscore in fact, he still had handled blues and greens too.
The gearscore system is laughably abusable, and even locking lobbies to rarities is better
only thing you bang is ur fist on the keyboard when u die to boss XD i get gold u get sold
It’s a lot better than color brackets
Not to mention the fact that Druids can abuse the gearscore system harder than anyone else can
#pwned
flexing 250 sad ash lol most freshman can do that
one second my wife is calling brb shes needs me
flexing benching in a discord is sad asf
Even back in sub-25s there'd be Locks rocking 14 MS Lightfoot boots and the Felidan skin with +2 Agi. Gearscore just isn't a good way to balance the game
u like this more?
big talk from a skeleton, you prolly got 5 vigor irl pipe down little twerp
Well I liked the common lobbies prior to its removal three days ago, yes
I'm actually 450lbs thanks
I sit in two chairs
Common lobbies are pointless
i dont doubt that
if a piece of gear already has a gem in it, you can't change it?
they were too empty, they added too many ques, then realized all the lobies were dead so they removed too many
wait one second my extremely gorgeous wife is calling me, just sold the ciompany got 200 mil on the way gtg #bulk
I never had a problem with dead lobbies, I just had problems finding people because these maps are all massive and the RNG is garbage for half of them
Through my history of playing the game every update had been like this, they swing back and forth between their fuckups, never seeming to find the balancing point. wether its ranger or barb meta, or just fucking the entire game. they do something, then revert it 150% and i thing geaer score was genuinely way more ballanced than these 9k full bis blue roller meta kits now
Risk is inherently good for the game
blue kit costs more then most legendary, that doesnt make sense does it?
Shit, why is Goblin Caves even randomized anymore if there's no Fog of War? Whats even the point of it anymore?
Yes, I sure do love spawning downstairs when NONE of the modules next to me actually connect to any other modules on the first floor
why is there empty marvelous chest in the golden key room
That’s not even true
maybe bis blue kits vs the worst legendary you've ever seen xD
seems like a good suggestion to me. ideally id still like to see a squire lobby but then were basically back to before the patch. it just baffles me we cant just all come together to agree that forcing people who clearly dont have the gear nor the skills to compete in HR is not the right way to go.
It definitely could be. We've literally been through this phase of the game before, where Normals were locked to blues and people were selling blue BiS to run lobbies
In the trading post what does "3sk" mean?
Bis blue is echelons better than boof legendary
baby half me legendaries go to vendor bc theyll either take 2 days to sell, or i gotta do it so far under market i stop caring, blued have value and get bought. tell me im wrong
it means "more money than you'll ever have"
anyone else have expressman have nothing after raids when you put stuff in each floor?
If it’s boof it doesn’t matter what color it is
Makes sense since blues are BiS in one queue and legendaries aren't BiS in HR
Legendary gear is for arenas
even then people want the uniques for mega roll
Ofc
fr that unique change is the one thing i like, every other change had been a fucking trainwreck
Uniques can’t be used in arenas tho
The economy has a meta
im almost positive they can
they can't yet
yet?
What's the topic of the day gamers?
same as the last two days honestly
i miss my solo 124
well people keep saying they "may" allow uniques and artifacts later towards end of wipe in arena but it's all rumor and nothing confirmed
I can't play this game until normal solos are back. Goodbye
ill remeber you
Remove HR duo, add back normal solo and the game is golden honestly
Solo HR kinda lit.
this is the 911 this game needed. no ones talking about barb balancing anymore lmao
Masking a shit with a bigger shit doesn't fix anything rofl
worked for the CIA
The CIA gets off the hook cause they've the shadow government rofl
thats what sdf is to this game
alright boys im gonna try a randoms blue trio, may god have mercy on my soul
Just run squire kits, it's loads of fun and no risk.
If you run gear in random normals and complain it’s a you issue imo
is there a way to get the black smith code from epic game account?
Yo how much is a unique watchmen cloak worth it has 6%action speed help me plz
Eh maybe 4-8k
Does anyone wanna buy it here
I'll give you 12 gold.
If you are crying about no normal solo maybe this game is not for you 🙂
Lol Lysan
I’d just list that on the market after doing a bit of research but my best guess is around 6k
There is literally no others with action speed so I’m lost
Look up unique cloaks with action speed
The top ones are like 50k w 4 true magic damage
is ranger or warlock better paired up with barb?
does goblin merchant not bring back gear from HR now?
Yeah those are actually good
I kinda figured
If the gear wasn't looted and the match has ended, it should be there.
Thank you for the help y’all
what mobs dropping maggots
I think skeletons and zombies
I was the last one in the lobby in HR crypts and nada :/
thanks
Remove HR duo, add back normal solo and the game is golden honestly
Swap class and come back.
Anyone know a good bossing cleric set-up? I dont know what stat to stack
Remove HR duo, add back normal solo and the game is golden
we went from having too many lobbies to having less that there should be, L patch
The game has alot more problems than that lol
yeah removing solo and duo normals is exactly what the game needs
What no thats not what i said can you read
bruh why i gotta play against trios in as a solo
pve is cancer for the game
Facts
PVE needs to be nerfed to the ground or removed
Have other people gotten things back from HR gobbo merchant? still nothing
PvE is fine, lets people learn the game
i think all the gamemodes should be the way they were
Did you die to the swarm
pve doesnt teach you the game at all
why allow trios to go against solos
imagine thinking youl do fine in hr because you can handle pve
PVE teaches you basic mechanics and lets you setup some blues for normals. It has a place.
so did solo and duos
warlord
squire lobby in solo was the best teacher
Lol how much time was in the match
Chance to learn bosses, practice longsword/blocks, map knowledge
Hi everyone. I recently started playing, how do I crack chests? I found lockpicks but broke them, are there any other ways to open a chest, like skills or extra stats maybe?
How much time was left in match
rogue has a perk for lockpicking
rogue with perk, bard with flute song
just stepped onto a sinking ship
Sunk
like 3 mins but no one else in lobby. got kicked to lobby. I just havent gotten anything back from HR in forever i feel like. Like not even one piece lol
no gobo merchant in hr
thats what i fkn thought but these kiddos kept telling me there was lol. man thats rough. gg 30k
Did they change blood exchange? does it still get back health??
Reworked it to give action speed for hp I believe
No regen from it at all? its garbage....
Maybe teamfight cleric or druid application thats abt it
why even call it blood exchange anymore... lol
there isint an exchange happening anywhere
Your health goes down , that's the exchange
an exchange takes place between two people u silly person
simple google search "an act of giving one thing and receiving another (especially of the same type or value) in return."
you can give yourself something?
your giving hp for action speed its literally an exchange
Remove HR duo, add back normal solo and the game is golden honestly
(especially of the same type or value)
can we auto turn on VOIP.... THESE NOOBS DONT EVEN KNOW HOW TO LOOK AT CHAT OR HEAR VOIP
This game is fucked up
BIG FACTS
you guys are trying to argue to argue, action speed and hp are some of the most important stats for most builds
Remove the storm this is not a br
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Is there any reason why I can't sell Cockatrice Egg?
I'm just being confrontational. I don't have an opinion on this. 😄
why is there empty marvelous chest in the golden key room
Have you tried putting stuff in it? Maybe it's hungry.
fair enough, i dont play barbarian and was just correcting him on the definition
Where do I find Human Remains? Pls @ me!
what is the frozen heart used for if you dont need the hammer anymore?
genuine question but what am i supposed to do if i wanna play something casual solo rn? bc they got rid of solos and trios normals just isnt cutting it...
I've been hopping back and forth with randoms in squire kits and solo HR runs for cash.
like i was trying to learn warlock and even that has proven to be difficult asl rn
same. i wanna learn bosses too tho but cant since you need a summon for them now
true but you get your boss stolen 24/7 without possibility of learning or even benefitting off your own boss kill... its grim asf
like i wanna play but kinda feel lost atp
can rusty key room spawn artifacts?
This is my only complaint with PVE. Make boss items give you an instance or something lol.
Pile and all that ain't even really worth it in PVE. Just a bunch of goobers.
Which class have more chance of surviving, a squish rogue but agile and can hide or a tanky barbarian/fighter but slower?
like idont wanna be a big complainer and whine the whole time but i think i'll never understand why they removed solos from normals... like atp whats the point of pve mode
should ahve gotten my goblin cave quests in earlier damnit
rogue but only if you bring a TON of range. so like 2 crossbows and throwing knives by the dozen
please bring solo normals back, its unplayable, duo teammates are killing me every time.
same. mainly casters and barbs
3 games in a row, i get killed by teammates :D:D this is hilarious. And then they loot me, imagine that. They are so stupid to understand that they cant have my gear
i saw a guy in here who got killed and the guy dropped his shit to a random, its bm but kinda funny af
Team killing has been update 10 fold as of late
Go into the LFG area or just play solo HR? Complaining for what
solo hr is ridled with geared ppl and lets be real what do you get from arena
Anyone else in the boat of "having" ppl to play with but being so no life they can only play for a fraction of the time ur online 😂
what if i want to play normals, and as solo player they just dont give it to me. Yeah, complaining for a reason
😂😂 bro solo HR is just people farming for arena or gold. Most of the time solo you will barely ever fight US east and US west btw so stop the cap
Wait why are we mad abt geared people being around?
yeah in us you have npc-s.
i just got killed no less than 3 times as a naked sorc. not everyone has the same experience and i know sure as shit that it doesnt take a genius to know its not JUST ppl farming elo in HR
It's so over
I mean u were naked… what did you expect?
Says the guy dying to TK lmao. Also what do you want we can't change regions anymore
Simply put people miss the normals solo
well like i mentioned i'm trying to play CASUAL and speaking on the fact that idk what to do but got told "play HR"
Chill questing/bossing
PVE
Goblin caves
Adults
https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1376280381900329043
Lol
Pve mode. Maybe more your style
read back a bit and you'll see what thats a problem
This community lives by the belief either get good or play another game
this update feels like ragebait
Most gaming communities are like that...
which is fucking stupid
Like mordhau which most concsider dead
Lol sdf like im adding a new discord channel what can we do to flood the discord oh ill just piss them off
I mean this game is very tarkov like where it’s a hardcore experience where the game just isn’t fair. Sorta just how it is and it’s part of the appeal for a lot of people.
Rust, tarkov. Csgo. League. Any game is like that and those games I mentioned are thriving. If you're not good, and complain they will tell you to leave
yeah but you play tarkov KNOWING thats what you're playing for and working with. but sdf cant seem to keep they shit straight for longer than a month at a time
Wow big popular games do well shocker
when are we gonna nerf barbarian ?!
Where the button to "Queue into other VOIPers". I think I'm missing it.
Not the point, the point of that post is to state that if you complain in any gaming discord they'll flame you for being bad. Maybe you're a little 🐌
when slayer fighter will be meta again
Lol randoms with mics good luck
I mean fair enough. The balance changes are all over the place but I’m ngl they’ve done a good job with what they have in terms of giving a casual experience in PVE and giving a lot of avenues to the hardcore experience
Does armour pen work like this , if i have 20% armour pen , and they have 20% PDR , then i do basically true damage?
yeah but i think hardcore should stay in HR and casual should stay in normals. not this stupid mishmash of the two they just pulled on us. like how are you expected to leanr to do a boss?
im a slayer main I feel you, no good matches anymore with this class, gets counter by all the one IQ battle cleric and barbs
Especially considering they have a small community so they have to compensate the amount of queues they have in the game or else they will have dead lobbies
No the way it works is it removes 20 percent of their 20 percent
how do you tell when a wipe is
people will complain its a given and well been happening since well ages for dark and darker, I remember some of them. But I think its gonna shoot themselves in the foot with new players or existing players who played solo a day ago
Lol backpacks and quivers been in the works for 2 years and your satisfiyed with them adding a mode that doesnt add any actual new content just makes it to where players cant fight eachother easier isnt better
Imma gues its july.... 10th..
So if they have 20 percent pdr and I have 20 percent armour pen I will hit them like they have 16 percent pdr
Ah seems kinda shite ngl
spoken
That’s because it is shit
I got injured by spike trap but then panther 2 phone me , one to the head one for the bone ... wtf 😆
cleric should heal not be the strongest melee in the game, barb should be slow not as fast as everyone, range should not be good close range, game is cooked we need major balance
Hey hey I never said I was satisfied. I’ve spent hours ranting about how stupid some of the changes have been and how dumb it is that it’s taken so long for other stuff but in terms of this patch I’d say it’s a rare ironmace W
guys is luck capped in adventure mode ? anyone knows?
Cleric is far from being the strongest melee in the game
Luck is capped at 500 in general
you dont say... lets add +all atts on gems instead
Lucks a myth
ah, ty
Agree
i like money
anyone wants a bis lantern?
mememe
First game back in months, and I get TK'd in normal, love it!
I was hopeful with the new changes, not so much anymore.
I'm not sure what a TK has to do with the changes, that's always been a thing.
Forced Trios in normals
used to be able to play solo norms
5k
Oh okay that's fair. Just don't go in with squire when with randoms.
14k players on a weekend why so low?
you wont believe it when i tell u
For warlock phantomize you can’t be hit by anything?
magic hits you still
True ig, still feels like shit to play tho.
So like the lich fast orb?
I am inclined to say yes
Didn’t know if I could use flame walk vs lich or not
when i do warlock v lich i just spam hellfire on it until it dies
haha yeah I’ve been trying but I’m not super good at hp management yet so if I get purple I die
dose anyone know if the loot in the inferno gives better rarity loot. Like in the ruins, I hardly find royals, would I find more royals in the inferno?
In normals*
its so stupid that u cant play solos without play in highroll.
or you play 1v3 in normal or play vs the freak with only artifacts... zzzzzz ironmace
yeah but in tarkov you can very realistically 1v3
yeah ultra realistic!!!
u want realism, go to work. its a video game and its supposed to be enjoyable
These devs are slow brained guys, just give em another week and something massive will change again
i like that they tried to do something about the 320 queues, but please atleast make GC norms solo
i cant fidn my friend's name in the game bruh, help
it keep sayings it doesnt exist
Gotta use account name, not character name
how can i know their account name bruh
ask them lol
YOU CAN DO THAT??
As far as I remember, explosive bottles stack with magic power so high will warlock would be best or any magic class in general
imagine if poisoned weapons worked on molotovs
thats high wym.
I believe it used to at some point lol
Shame mollies don't work on mobs
Yes it does, you typically find only purple+ sellables in hell on hr
Bring back dungeon recovery in HR... ffs
Why can you change your account name and not your character names, account names do nothing and character names you see all the time
they need to give us a 1 coin pavise we can buy thats the size of the trade screen so we can give em out to bots
Will dark and darker ever come to Xbox?
Blue dungeons are lame its all barb teams
Why does lantern shield do so much dmg and so stupid to try hit past
make it like Apex and allow all teams to drop into the dungeon and we can make special abilities maybe a warlock called Caustic and ranger can be called a pathfinder maybe allow rogue to be called Revnant its all original ideas and allow weapons to be found on the ground with different levels of weapons and allow barbs to be called gerbralter cause they can have a dome shield medival looking of course that can drop down and revive team mates quicker none of this has been done before make it Dark and apex darker
Dm the stats for me
it was like 20k last weekend
has anyone else experienced insame amount of crashing since the update or just me
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yeah im not even going to bother with pvp, nothing but barbarians.
parry them
parry a 1 handed xe
yeah i do that all the time
sure you do.
yep i do, it plays like arming sword
yo can i not play alone? i only see the option to play as a trio
crazyyy you parry a 1 handed axe from people who twitch turn aim low and high and you parry every single hit, tell me whats the name of your cheat program that you downloaded?
welcome to dark and darker
i see
lol idk if you have used longsword, but compared to rapier and dagger, fighting against barb with axe is easy mode
longsword players are like deadpool, regular weapons don't even register anymore as a challenge
also i don't parry every single hit, i never said that
you hit them once in the head with phys power longsword, and they realize they also gotta go for the head otherwise they lose the trade, then you parry them
are there any reliable resources for altar spawn locations, wikis or maps or whatever (everything I can find seems old and out of date)
https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/GoblinCave-5x5-01-N
doesn't include new modules
ty
like first we get rid of solo and duo and only put hr so i am fighting barbs which didnt need a buff who are fully min maxed and have +1all and full max gem gear bc they 100% needed to add that and now i am opening mag chest with nothing in them
You are forgetting the strongest spell, slow
Where do I find the human remains ?
In a module of the lowest level of the castle called blood something. Might be Blood Columns or Blood Prison i can't remember. It's in a specific spot so look it up
it's only a chance to spawn too iirc
Its in the blood prison but when I look it up I get nothing. Can you try to describe to me where it is in the blood prison ?
Will DM you screenshots
thank you I really appreciate that
its 5 meters from the gate inside blood prison the one that u open with a lever on the floor
it has a torch on the wall near the ground and a chest and one of those stone dead dudes close to it
is it just on the floor ? which direction from gate ? I dont wanna mis it
its within 5m just look around its on the inside towards the chest
thank you guys a lot
Good luck
do you get anymore leathersmith crafts when you complete this quest ? i saw it gives affinity but I didint know @heavy anvil @desert orchid
i dont know since i still havent found a trubadour outfit or marauder 😂
Idk bro I hate grinding quests so I don't do em
bro game is cooked to the max rn
have they done something to ghost king now? He does earthquake outta nowhere, not even tping to the middle... Love this game
If i happen to get the items i complete the quest but if i dont idc
cooked fr
yeah frrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
they gonna lose all their players frfr
just died from a guy with 10 artifacts in his inv making him unkillable #balanced
L Cope
also there is 10 teams in base gear in hr and then there is 2 teams with 10 artifacts
Pretty sure 10 LADs cant fit in inv
jk
okay 5 LADs it was
no fr he had 10 lads
You cant bro, stop yapping
1v3 my team with full bis
movespeed rolls on items is so balanced and fair
7 is max you can bring
where can i find boss locations for goblin cave?
devs are special ed
devs are downs
PVE IN ARENAS SUCKS
How long does a season in dark and darker last?
Why doesnt goblin give the items back in high roller? Is there any reason?
Make arena 24/7 or 4days on 3 days off!!!!
because sdf is is a bowl cut- well, you know
Isn’t that what it already is basically lol
no
So you want 1 more day of arena?
why tf they take away solos?
yes
Can we just ban plingpling Chinese vpn users
Trying out barbarian, does anyone know why my Zweihander won't crush a door despite having the perk?
Seems reasonable
🗣️
I dont see the point in not having it always on if they arent making any changes when the arena isnt up
From SDFs rant
“Legendary items shouldn’t feel legendary because of their power, but because of how rare they truly are.”
This is such a horrible take. Why grind for a legendary item that doesn’t reflect higher power? This sounds like when they tried making white weapon damage nearly identical to legendary. Sure, they’re similar damage, but the legendary one is orange and you had to spend hours finding, what an engaging system!
game is unplayable I DC EVERY 5 MINUTES WHY
The point is that too much of a good thing is bad sometimes
I don’t see any issue with it being a weekend only thing
They also probably want to be able to gauge player count differences
game is unplayable I DC EVERY 5 MINUTES WHY
Im new I pulled a chest, how much gold is it worth
tthere is alwasys some ranged class pelting me with arrows while im trying to fight the wyvern and than they dont even fight the wyvern if i die. what are we doing follks shit is cancer
DEVS HAVE STRAIGHT DOWNS WITH THIS LAST UPDATE
WHY THEY TAKE SOLOS AWAY WTFFFF
I think like 30k so if you’re new you just keep it
30000-40000.
If u don't have any keep it.
Will save u so much space.
U can get gold selling other things
Lmao u haven't seen sorcrers spamming spells at u
you can haggle keys in trade dont sell it cheap bro
because solos are making the game worse
how is me wanting to practice pvp making the game worse.
go practice in 3v3
my friends are still dying to mobs, i want to play pvp without them so i have some chance at winning the fight
as a new player solos pvp is literally the only way i can practice pvp at my own pace.
so true
they need to remove solo/duo from highrollers and only have 3s queue
and heres the thing right, ive never heard fortnite be like "oh my god our balancing is shit lets just remove solos.
call of duty is never like "well our weapons are inbalanced so we had to remove FFA mode because its tough for us to make sure the weapons are balanced
Only playing three's is a L take. 1v1 fights is the best way to properly learn how to play the game. All these people saying 3s is the best, are people who get carried
Solos is the best mode
these changes are terrible.. no pvp in high roller and everyone just gets geared for blues to bully new players
as a solo bard, whos class supposedly is made for "threes" i totally agree.
it literally have nothing to do with trios vs solos. its a balancing problem. a 3v3 is still potentially just 3 1v1s.
if a barbarian beats every class then running triple barbarian still just wins regardless of whether its a 3v3 or a 1v1.
devs lost the plot after the first season
Eh, not quite. Healing is extremely overpowered in this game. Having a pocket cleric on your team gives you much better odds.
literally, imagine me trying to play with friends at my level.
i have pve where we run around for 10 minutes trying to take leftovers from vet players with red weapons
we have pvp where we are getting hunted by veteran blue players
we have high roller where it costs a mountain of money to get in just to die to mobs that we havent seen before
Ya if you want to really improve, solos is the best game mod
3s is literally the most fun, solos is for goobers who like ratting 90% of the time
why supress duo
Thats fair enough, I like playing with my buddies in dues and trios, but... Solos is the best way to improve at the game
as someone who primarily was playing pvp solos this wipe, i will say for certain that 90% of people i come across are full w keying with zero loot on them. I wish i found good loot on a player.
anyone got kicked from lobby server error?
love being killed by 3 guys with my friend. Funny game.
No idea what game you're playing, gear has never been easier to get, all my lobbies are full minmax
yes
Bring back duo and solo ffs
the game where i was able to play with people with non minmax loot.
now 90% of people i will find in pvp are minmaxed and i dont even know how to do that
They shouldve just added the a que with the pre game lobbie back if they wanted to fix their dead lobbies. Why piss off and alienate a substantial part of you already declining player base by remove solos and duos... Just an L take from SDF
Depends on the class but just prioritize hp, ms and true damage and you're 90% of the way there
@marble eagle play commons lobbies then lol
like, loot is easy to get if you can kill people, but nobody in my friend group can fckn kill people is the problem. we are still learning the game. so either we try and gear up and instalose a weeks worth of work or we go in with an extreme disadvatage against players with hundreds more hours than us
they exist for a reason 🙄
there is no common lobbies, its pve blue and red
You think those high hour players didnt have that in the beginning? Gotta sit though the pain, and even after thousands of hours you still die
idk bruh when i got here there was an armor rating system that netted me afair chance and then there was a common lobbies that netted me a fair chance.
No clue what was here before i got here
any1 wanna team up and help me kill skele warlord fgor quest
poinltess to argue with the people saying JuSt Go InTo Hr, when you tell them you cant hr till level 20 JuSt PvE mkight as well play hello kitty online at that point. idk why wanting a lobby where you can have somewhat equal 1v1s is such a hard concept to grasp around here
second time of no f portals in inferno, yet my mate is getting 3 or 4 portals spawn in abys. such a PoS @glad thunder
You guys want a fair game in a game where the devs literally said its supposed to be unfair
yeah, but not rng that 1 portal will spawn for 10 people then there is no way out. f dumb asf this game now
scaling was nerfed to x0.1 though
how much do the boss crafts sell for?
You have no idea how bad that shit used to be, when Gc got added for the first time for example, 2 portals for the entire map. Plan your escape man
its not fun when you want to play alone or with a friend and die to teams of 3 because the lead dev reasoning for removing the most popular queue is "i dont like that approach"
Not the reason but okay
brother, I've been here for a couple years my man. Brother I spent the last 7 bars of inferno HR LOOKING FOR A PORTAL
not to mention making a demo with solo and duo, having people pay after having liked said demo, then removing said functionality is also a dog move but people defend it on the basis "ItS EaRlY aCcEsS YoU'Re JuSt SuPpOrTiNg DeVeLoPmEnt" yeah then dont sell seasonal dlc for early access games... such a bad practice and the game is not even out
yeah the seasonal dlc is still one of the dumber things they've done tbh
ned to bring back common gear score bracket. im tired of loading in with timmiys and loosing a kit. buht then I dont bring a kit and I get stoimped by sweaty losers
Fairness is irrelevant, these a balance between brutal "hardcore" and fun. When the brutal hardcore part is rewarding is what you want. Which is not what they're doing right now under SDFs leadership. And it doesnt matter how "much harder" things used to be. If they're bad decisions, they're bad decisions. You cant argue with the fact this game down downhill, look at the falling playerbase, and the constant backlash the past year with these updates. SDF needs to step down if he wants this game to succeed
ima keep it real man, im new here, but i dont think alot of people enjoy playing a game that heavily punishes new players to the point that they dont even have a way to play.
thats pretty dumb
The desperately need a way to just CLICK a persons name to report them from somewhere. The website is jank
has ANYONE actually used it? External reporting where you have to MANUALLY type out the names of people sluring in voip isn't good
yeah its super annoying they did the best thing ever for new players by making a pve in mode then removed the lowest form of pvp for you all to slide into
Sounds to me like you want a shortcut to be succesfull in pvp instantly, you will NOT win when you're new
i was having a blast with the game, if you check my first message in this discord its just because i was wondering where tf solo mode went
SDF is a walking contradiction
bro thinks his game should have a 500 hour hazing ritual for new players and thinks it will be fun
crazy how i felt no need to argue on the discord when i could just play and enjoy a somewhat fair balanced enviroment
I just started Tuesday and I’ve been PvPing fine
gear up in pve in blues and then go get some practice in brother see you in the dungeon
You chose a hardcore pvp game and wont accept you're trash in the beginning, get real
I still get shit on nearly every game and im here since pt1
This isn’t the first time they’ve rug pulled solo players because streamers start crying.
JuSt PvE gang, and even if you have blues you cant practice solo anymore
Why would you want to solo? Are you anti social?
Whoever buys gear and intentionally slots s$@t attributes your f r3trdd
because its the reason i even paid to play this game?
No bro, youre delusional. Everyone knows you lose at a game when you first play. You think you are king kunta because u been playing the game for a bit and your opinion is literally "git gud"
nobody gives a crap dude. im glad you played a game for awhile. your opinion is irrelevant and your attitude is horrendus.
Easy fix, add a bloody que back to the game to fix their dead lobbies. Add back solos and duos and everyone is happy. Im sure everyone would rather sit in a 5minute que then not be able to play their favorite mode... How is this even up for discussion
L
Solos seems boring and full of rat players in lobby’s with 2 others doing the same
Thats perfectly fine of you dont like solos, but you cant deny that lots of people do. Its a great way to learn the game
So unnecessary to remove it
trying to queue with randoms is fucking aweful. nothing but blind booger pickers. FUCK SDFS VISION.
This right here. Let them queue up and manage inventory/post trades while they wait.
nope, as someone who plays mostly solos because my friends learn the game slower than me, i can confirm its full of dummies who just w key anything with a glowing potion
I prefer duos and trios, but i noticed i improved the most from playing solos. Removing it from low lobbies makes newer people have a harder time really improving at the game
Again completely unnecessary to remove them...
Just use the discord and find people I don’t see the issue
Because some people dont want to, and thats perfectly fine...
idk man. me and my friends bought the game because we were having fun in pve and common lobbies and they pretty much removed half of that so
I play with a lot of dad gamers and they don't really have time or the drive to buy kits. They just want to play fantasy BR basically. It's fun! Maybe the game isn't meant for them but that kinda sucks too.
i legit cant get people i know to play more than 2-3 games. it is horrible for them not knowing whats going on and withing 1-3 minutes having fully gears barbs fold us like laundry. even after some practice in pve they still wanted to uninstall.
just pve then go into hr lvl 20, seems to be the fix for people here
clearly thats peak gaming
like the last half said. even with pve practice they still didnt stand a chance once we did real games.
devs are special ed
Ya took a good while for my IRL buddies to commit to this game. One tried and didnt come back for a year. But he loves the game now, plays it more than i do
nevermind they will enjoy the game way less when going into hr while not knowing anything about the game
this is exactly what im saying, practice in pve is nothing to actual pvp gameplay and nobody wants to grind for 7 days just to have 2 kits that you lose in 5 minutes flat. just to experience the game for 20 seconds.
yea im just trolling by parroting what the "hardcore veterans" are saying on repeat since the patch dropped, just pve then hr 👍
the past few days have shown me HR is nothing but rat rogues land mining and rangers with chase hearing me across the map. it just isnt fun.
BRING BACK DUOS
you could play 5k hours of PvE and you'll just get stomped on for another 300 hours in PvP by old heads
Give me stash auto sort is that so hard to ask for my god
IDK, DID IT FEEL HARD FOR YOU JUST NOW TO ASK THAT?
theres a bot some guys are working on for that
they need a big sticker on the steam page that says "hey before you buy this game you should know we completely change it once every 2 weeks so. dont get comfortable with the game"
i honestly dont have much of an issue. ive been playing since playtest 3. its when i try to bring new people, they want to stop playing asap.
I mean you could say the same thing about any other PvP game
I have a hard time believing they wont roll back this update. The steam charts are dropping and people are really pissed. Just a shame they had to piss off this many people to find out what was pretty obvious... SDF needs to let someone else take lead if he really cares about this games future
yeah this game a little different though. since its so different from most other competitive type games theres a big wall in front of new players
Right watch them get rid of the gemming and re roll all your gear and there goes all your gems you used lma
There’s a big wall for league of legends, wow PvP, counter strike, apex legends like wdym
Damn normal pvp is unplayable, queueing solo is death sentence. There are only pro squads stomping randoms and noobs, I suppose HR is more safe to play than normals. I feel also bad to new players, they propably never get into the game because of bad normal pvp queue that will succesivly discourage from game
does account migration still work because my game is crashing on epic? ?
seriously regretting getting 4 people to buy this game a week ago 👍
mobas for sure, but fps games you always know you died because you lost a gun fight. this game you might hit the other guy three times as much as he hits you and still die
yoyo im pretty new to all the crafting, ive been mining, got loads of iron ore trying to figure out why its so expensive on the market? only thing i can see thats valuable to craft is lockpicks ??? which arent worth making and then selling.... why is iron ore so expensive?
i bought it on thrusday and almost got my friend to buy it too but we went to sleep and the next day no solo/duo anymore lol
how can you change the game up mid season and to top it off remove 2 important gamemodes
Then Again I would hate it they brought in ranked match making that would fuck the game up
Skill based*
haha oh you must be new around here
So Overwatch then … I mean it’s just a baseless statement that people keep making
Like there’s a huge wall and time sink to get good at literally any PvP game
And part of the fun is the difficulty
Yall are just a bunch of care bears tbh
no im used to it just curious to why lmfaoo
I mean I really like a game, but normals are shit now. If you arent sitting on discord in 3 pre squad its never gonna end well for your team and loosing gear is pain
these game tailor the new player experience, they dont have a bunch of people telling them go vs bots then into ranked, not to mention its much easier to get into an fps than a game like this
unique arenas plz
anyone know why iron ore is so expensive, what is it used for apart form lockpicks?
They really don’t tho
I remember my first normal game of league of legends I got absolutely stomped and it’s probably the reason I kept playing
in that game u go vs same mmr people not player who played 5k hours
yeah but if you boot up overwatch having never played it, you'll have some success right away. you probably wont do great but you'll get some kills and your team might win. when you boot up dark and darker, if theres no one to help teach you the game it might be 30 or 40 hours of game time before you win a fight in PvP
yeah i started in s3 when we had thornmail ashe tutorial, do you actually think its still the same? ever heard about match making??? you cant get farmed unless you're against smurfs. very different games
I mean not really tho it’s not that simple
B*tt plug for how hard this game is fucing us
Anyone know what artifacts wyvern drops?
litterally is i play lol alot
So fun getting gear fucked
if you start playing league of legends right now you are put into other people just starting to play. thats the power of having 3 thousand employees and not riot tryndamere and marc merrill pushing their vision on the playerbase
I mean with league and overwatch there is just the skill difference. This game is gear and skill difference, not even remotely the same thing. By removing solos and duos for new players you are gate keeping them from learning the game properly...
To be fair it’s a bad example that game has millions of players
I would hate skill based matching making
yeah we have hundreds not millions
you made it, not me.. wow cs apex all games handled by dev teams not power tripping leads
Can’t play with your friends who are not as good because they would get stomped
they would improve if you played with them
problem now is where i learn pvp as solo. If i go pve no pvp... normals only trio 1v3... in hr every1 got bis set no way i can do anything...
I hate sdf shilling is just cringe
Yall give that guy too much credit good or bad
Every other game no one has a problem playing with randoms but this game people throw a hissy fit, why is that? Because all the sociable people have been scared off from this game and all we're left with is you crybabies
also mmr or skill based match making would make this game trash
Anyone know what iron ore is used for that makes it so expensive?
Agreed
Lockpick bro
I kinda have to agree with this
just read sdf-kitchen he literally said he begged the team daily for the removal or solo/duo, reason given? he just did not like that approach of listening to the playerbase that requested solo/duo
how you can defend that change is beyond me, you are shilling
the lfg in this discord is consistently quite good actually, i find groups in there all the time
That’s actually W SDF tbh fuck the solo players lol
everyone is anti social that plays from what I read
oh right yeah i thought so, market prices dont make sense, cheers mate
sdfs "kitchen talk" felt more like that south park episode with the cable guy going "were sorrrry. ah darn it. weeeerree sooooorry" INTENSELY RUBS NIPPLES
shilling is cringe, proceeds to shill for a change that affects the MAJORITY of the playerbase 
Like honestly to all solo players who don’t want to play HR
Here’s the door don’t let it hit your ass on the way out is actually based asf and genius
its not that its if u go play randoms u dont have team play or synergy and if i die they just leave me
lost 20k average players in a year, keep up with that mindset broski
So adapt, you ever heard of sink or swim?
how brainwashed u have to be to think that way
That’s irrelevant to this patch but ok
no offense to sdf, but the cv he is building will have him struggling to work in fast food
Whats the point of the magical healing on the Sovereign's Ghostblade?
You wish he worked at your McDonald’s lil bro
hes the lead dev, list a company that wouldn't fire a guy who loses tens of thousands of players over 2 years?
All games lose players overtime
???
litterally not true.

over time VS the actions of dumb devs is a very different thing.
Saying it’s all his fault solely is just regarded
pandering to solo players and streamers is why the player base tanked so hard
LOOK AT SDF KITCHEN. he IS THE DECISION MAKER
whats with this shilling btw
Go look at most games from peak to avg player count
you can’t expect the game to always hit a peak
also this games on like 4 platforms and we’re only talking about steam numbers here for some reason
i feel like since the sweats be in HR then they should remove solos from HR since thats where the problem is and bring back low rated solos so that new players and casuals can enjoy the game
you cant really say this game is not being handled like a generic mmo pserver handled by one guy in hs and his friends
Why does the block function not block chat messages? Why do I still have to read my teammate's toxic messages?
if only the sweats where actually where they're supposed to be
sweats be hanging out in blue tho because they can make bis kits right?
i dont feel like sweats were in commons because you cant even complete a boss with common gear on, its a waste of time for a low drop rate
at the very least they should add the rare lobby for solo/duo, atm the game is just not fun if you dont wanna play trios
blue, common, it doesn't really matter. a lot of people ran commons to get their money up since its easy runs and pile hits
You can def boss In commons
yeah bossing in commons is super easy and a lot of people just like PvP and timmy stomping
Halberd = hold left click and circle right on cyclops and you kill it in about 1m
or play bard
Full luck bard on the way beware pve
Why does every new quest have to be in the ice caverns? What a fucking garbage area this is
This is a real statement
At least let me use my fucking gear without having to worry about losing everything ffs
And then when you think "Hey finally i completed this quest" YOU CAN'T EXTRACT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL GONE
wanna start again after a very long pause, is it worth it?
if u have time why not
Read up on recent patches and make the choice yourself. If you liked non HR solo/duo then eat shit I guess. Otherwise maybe.
is gear that I didn't mint still lost in Arena or did they change that?
didn't lose any gear when i tried it a couple of weeks ago and i don't know what minting is
with how terribly i got demolished i probably should have lost the gear tbh 😛
the only arena i did i went in with 120 arrows left with 0 and like 30 damage dealt 
minting = gear that you looted yourself. for example if I kill someone and take the gear he brought into the dungeon and then use that gear in arena, it's lost. at least that's how it was a couple months back. can anyone let me know if that's still the case please?
at least you dealt damage
one time i probably missed most of my warlock curses and ended up killing myself with them
No you can bring anything in now even if not crafted or found by you it says it in the description
Sorry to disturb 😅 I only have a question. I've been looking in the shop for alittle time now as I've started getting back into the game.
Does anyone know if the Exclusive Section items will be available down the road or if they're gonna add new Exclusives? I'm really enjoying the game again and wanna support the game 😅
gotcha thanks!
is breakthrough supposed to work against sorc knockbacks or not...it do anything in this matchup when it used to be the way fighters counter sorc
Can anyone help me out with a few bucks $treisboss
Is there a sorcerer spell that adds a lighting effect to a weapon ? havent played them mutch and saw a sorc getting around with a lighting blade, dident seem to be re casting a spell to enable it either, or perhaps a artifact weapon ?
when does arena end
might of been Fulgor longsword actually
Frost spell
45 min
there's a frost spell that gives the blade frost effect, but it could've also been fulgor a artifact lightning sword
why cant you duo anymore
well 3 buttons on barb and 2 buttons for rogue, so 3 is more than 2, so that what it do
why did htye make norms rare equipment
could you squad up with a player and then hit don't fill empty slots and still queue as a duo?
I mean it wouldn't be vs only duos
yes but you will go against teams of 3 i think, you can solo/duo vs other solo/duos only in hr now
game keeps disconnecting for me
migrate from epicgames work ?
Cam someone tell me remaining arena time
🐀 (no)
says 40 minutes in the client
how do you send a invite like in the LFG channel to the vc?
pls comeback solo norm. Im learning the new class and cant really learn pvp against 3
@vague frost GIVE ME THE MONEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
im broke
checking network issue?
u are a really great singer, are u party chip?
same
so now u cant que alone with out facing trios? this game is a joke, charts 📉
bad decision fr
sadly feels like too many in a row
true
LOL
I see the game still hasn't changed
lol
I assumed after a few days of discord fire the devs would have seen this is a mistake and responded. Has it been radio silence from them?
They only have 2 players now it shouldn't be hard to reach out to them
@inland valve hello Mr sdf what are you future plans for the game
does wyvern drop pestilence?
The big issue is if you want to enjoy solos in hr in order to not be steamrolled you have to gem all your gear and invest a a lot of time in kit building… there should be at least a squire kit solo lobby. A lot of people just want to just jump into the game and not build a kit and pay a fee
not for u
yeah everything should be pay-to-play!
Squire lobbies would go hard as hell
@inland valve can u sing a bit about druid
indeed, rn we are trying to do zero to hero but legit we fight only full stats rare xdd
Beautiful
@inland valve can u rap about barbs
playing wizard in arena and i think im actually abt to have an aneurysm
when is wipe
is there a way to transmute gems into a higher tier?
330ms bardiche barbarians running down the middle of the worst modules in the game to one tap me
also do blues spawn in the icea abyss and when tf is wipe
chalk the entire game they really ruined a once really fun game
dude when tf is wipe
u r the best
it fells like he just launched the game just to kill u i swear
i just hate how there is no tradeoff for it. you get hella hp, hella mr, can one tap me. and move faster than me with a 2 handed weapon like wtaf??? and clerics that are 330 shield/morningstar like remove ms from the game PLEASE
leave arenas up dear god please
Barbarian VS Fighter / who have more advantags and win more comon on 1X1 ???
Depends on the weapon, and the man
I keep saying Rogues without gear are awful, but christ even in blues Rogues are just stupid.
Joined a random trio with a Barb, and from full HP a Rogue deleted two thirds of his health in two Stilleto hits
whats the best way to level up fast in dnd
Did the "blues" have +true on them?
Leave arenas open please. we have less queues now ples
Queue ruins and go all the way down to hell, just play the game as you would then make sure you escape. I do this for each character it levels them to 20 in ~5-6 raids
I dunno, I didn't even look at his kit afterwards, but I'm pretty sure every Rogue I've seen in blues so far is running BiS shit like Brave Hunters and the like
Really good learning environment for a Barb that's only got one perk lmao
im still finding match for arena
🧠
Something changed with the round shield and and nightmare axeman timing. I used to be able to block and attack, but now they attack slightly faster and I get killed every time.
Bro where can we express our views to developer in this game.
This update sucks and it forcing people to go into high roller for solo wtf is that
yep, I don't understand what were they expecting, but I suggest that if you don't know how to balance the random modifiers is better to remove them and focus on the new content or slight balance changes, but 99% of the problems would solve just removing the modifiers, at least until they know a better sistem
It is possible to kill someone with full true phys damage plus move speed bonus plus all atributes, but he has to be extremely awful and miss every hit
nah dude you can go into trios as a solo player. rofl.
lmao, imagine getting solo in trios to get totally obliterated and desintegrated by a rogue, a cleric and a ranger with full all atributes, true phys damage, move speed bonus and full rare gear
maaan screw this game totally sucks now. every damn season theres some shite update that makes the game just unfun and i quit halfway through wtf
like clockwork around the same damn time
the "vision"
guys, can u tell me, what i shall do for have come servise with goldsmith? I already completed 3 tasks.
IDK what to ask from google. I can find answer by myself.
the que choices blow
rip goblin caves quests too you queu solo its insta death you queu ina group "lets go troll" ffs
PUG groups are always face into another team rinse repeat
Nah, I already surrendered doing quests, it's impossible to play the game at the moment, at least if you don't have your two boyfriends who are millonaires and can spend a house worth in equipment just to oneshot grey players
Is it just me or is the melee cleric meta getting really boring for anyone else
trying to queue solos with party fill in norms is miserable dawg, its all timmys 
turn fill off then
then im 1v3 as a wizard :(
yah. do it
most of the time its better to be 1v3 than 5v1 you know
so true
seriously, what's the cleanest way to solo a nightmare axeman with barbarian squire gear?
ugh. Well, thanks for help.
Seems like everyone love to cry except conversation. Well. i will cry to.
I can impict gems in my gear. That so terrible. Everyone is teaming and they have gear with gems.
dodge it
You strafe the overhead and turn around and walk away from the horizontal
Just wanted to play some final arena matches..
It's 90% sorcs teleporting ontop of those pillars (you know the ones) and nuking everyone
How is this still not fixed xd
Huh? lol I’ve seen sorcs in about 5 percent of my games
the sorcerer is dead
Why do people state their isolated bad experience as if it’s fact
sometimes the duck for the horizontal doesn't work. Is that because i'm holding a shield or something?
yeah. that bad.
And i hate zombies, they kill me instantly.
I don’t duck the horizontal I full back up
I'm not sure if you can do that but maybe you can just duck and look to your feet to dodge it, at least it works for the cave troll xD
can u hit wendigo hearth with drums? i struggle to kill on cleric
500 hours, not playing again until solos / duos are brought back for normals or gear score returns. This is the absolute worst matchmaking system you have managed to come up with
You gotta just cheese them on cleric
but is it viable with drums? crossbow it is
Bro I played about 20-25 arena matches tonight and about 20 of them were that one map where sorcs teleport on top and just nuke everyone. Can't even get to them if you play a melee character
Guys, you're all talking about different things—each of you is just ranting about whatever issue pisses you off. In other words, you're just whining instead of having a constructive discussion. Nobody even answered my question; you just keep crying—some blame the soccer ball for landing on the roof, others complain about getting steamrolled by the enemy team. Bunch of crybabies.
I read the messages of sdf in sdf kitchen and probably It was his idea to do this, and I mean, maaaaybe if the random modifiers weren't that broken or there wasn't this movespeed and true phys meta, maybe you would be able to win 1v3 with pure skill if you kill them one by one
Wait so you’re mad we didn’t reply to what you cried about ?
All servers having the rollback issues??
he's just crying about the zombies bruh
Oh so skill issue quite literally
yup, i want cry too
who's winning the war?
wich is war? war... war never changes.
Honestly if you read the full SDF channel and still hate him and reduce him down to subhuman you’re just kind of a bad person
how do i get another class role?
He seems like a pretty intelligent and thoughtful guy
by clicking the button for it
thanks wheres the button
in this server
thanks locate it please
i just told you ...
im telling you
whats dripdog?
why is that? i just read that he cried every day to get this patch done like the removing solo duos.
a drippy dog
the game has consistently gotten more unpleasant especially with this community, i will be uninstalling
Yes, no matter what he says they are going to react with the you know what emoji, I mean he is the one who shows the face and even makes himself responsible for everything
but he's trying to make everyone happy and that's impossible with this community xd
i dont hate him, im pissed about the changes he's made and the direction he's taken the game. i think the kitchen channel is a great step and hope the test server is implemented and used how he says. however, the community mistrust in SDF is well founded and reinforced, they want to see him keep his word before putting any more faith in him
idk they have a debt and I may understand why there is no new content, and besides they are korean and the korean are not famous for having mental health and normal work time xdd
I don’t think he is trying to make everyone happy I think he’s trying to do what’s right and trying his best to mitigate downsides but he can’t see everything and it’s really easy for us to say something was a bad change when our feedback is in hindsight
when are they brining back commong squire lobbys
the changes people get frustrated with are consistently things we've seen before. number juggling, ms rolls and all att coming back after being removed for the issues it caused. circle coming back to hr after its removal being praised, etc. long time players are frustrated because they've seen the same buffs and nerfs more than twice, and watched features that hurt the game come back despite the obvious issues with them.
well he mentioned that he listens to the feedback of different types of players but since this community isn't the best, it's more difficult to find the right choice which will make most of the players happy
because while you have good suggestions and respectful and serious feedback you have some guy saying ayo the zombie is so broken bruh hell no remove it from the game...
like no common gear score lobbies is so annoying. im tired of not risking a kit and getting slammed but then I got to risk a kit and I que into timmys. like I just want common back so I can que in and not risk anything
or the worst type of player who just insults sdf and well, nothing else
SDF is not a competent director to manage this game that's a fact and he wont delegate this on others because the concept of the game is millonaire but he cant make it work. So he will prefer to let die this game rather than delegate it
I think that when he wrote all that messages in sdf kitchen he was answering to a video I have seen that had a title like, why is dark and darker dying, or is dark and darker dying? and the guy shown the charts and the +3 damage +5 damage of the barbarian axe for example, the ms rolls and all that stuff
I'm pretty sure he saw the videos of the people talking about the state of the game, so he should be aware of that
and he even answered one by one each point of the video in order, so I'm pretty sure he was answering that video
he for sure has. i think the kitchen channel is directly the result of a OnePeg video where he talks about sdf using twitch chats to communicate with players instead of his actual discord. he for sure watches streamers and videos about the game
EXACTLY
what do i need to interact with iron door for quest
"IS DARK AND DARKER DEAD?" - Onepeg Reacts, I found it
i for one think that the kitchen channel and what he said there is a good first step, i want to see this game do well and get better, and think we should give SDF credit when he does what good for the community and the game
i think the original was from Repoze wasn't it? the video Onepeg is reacting to?
he can say he wants good for the community all he wants but its clear he doesnt think before making changes and his actions speak louder lol
would love to submit actual structured feedback to sdf if he was open to it, but then so would 20k other people so eh
and think we should give SDF credit when he does what good for the community and the game
he should also think through the impact of the things he's doing and run it by us before blowing holes in the game like he did with this last patch
Lock pick
yeah it was, there we go, good thing he saw that video
give him a robo-greysun to pick through the chat and give him a summary of how people feel about the patch
he should, and i think actually using the test server will greatly improve the patches that actually make it into the game
whats the old rusty key for then? thought that was what i needed
And he is not even running from the truth, he even created a channel in order to answer all the points of the video and solve one of that points itself which was talking in some streamer's chat instead of talking to the community at the discord server
both those guys are some of the biggest voices in the streamer and YT community for this game, not surprising he'd see it
at least he's working to be more active with the community and listen to the feedback and answer the questions
Rusty Door in Armory - Crypts HR
now I hope he removes the random modifiers and or fix the queues lol
what module is the cyclops gate in?
FACTS
Is it better to prioritize stats like agi/dex/vig or raw rolls like speed/actionspeed/health?
guys just starting off - what class should i go, i keep dying cause i cant block the right way and seem to do no damage
As a new player myself ive been seeming to do fine with wizard
ah alright
Starting with a magic class is a bad idea. Better go for the classic fighter or barbarian
I'm ass at PvP but thats just an skill issue
fighter is probably the easiest to start with
you can try all weapons too
besides WL, do casters just gotta wait for spells to recharge? Or do they have limited uses?
Wizard needs to camp. Sorc is on cooldowns and warlock uses hp
sorc has cooldowns, druid, wizard, and cleric have a set number of spells they can cast and only get back by resting. they get them back way faster by using campfires and clarity potions tho
yes
What about Cleric for a newcommer?
probably not bad, he has a lot of self heal, swings slowly tho
y'all know what would be hardcore? If weapons lost effectiveness and had to be repaired with loot.
did they change rouge? all my gear has true physical damage but my bonus is at a -6.5
@idle hare correct me if im wrong but i dont think true phys affects that. Its just added on top of whatever your phys bonus is
if you want to be broken you may use smite and judgement, and be a tank cleric
yeah with no gear my phys bonus is -17
@idle hare build some strength
goblin maze a
okay!
what is a good gold farming strat pve currently?
Honestly enjoy being more obscure and a cryptid when i play games, usually sticking to offmeta builds I REALLY wanna play bard and be unhinged in voip
what are the best comps? Buffball?
oh yes if you want to be off meta you may play fighter like me my good friend
@rustic basalt bard is pretty complex, i wouldnt recommend starting there
Yeah I figured that out after one game, but i might try fighter out!
Longsword isn't "meta" but by way of the parry skill ceiling and ripostes, will always be good if you put in the time with it
@rustic basalt I started on fighter and had alot of fun. Longsword is still my fav weapon, its the only weapon that feels like the skill you gain pays off
I hardly have a day on the game so im still not fully understanding of what stats i need to look for, is there a wiki where i can see numbers?
@rustic basalt yeah its called spells&guns
i recommend the gigachad fighter doing parry with longsword, i'm pretty sure you'll learn how to parry most of the enemies, and the hability which gives you momentum to run faster and the one who heals you 40%
The longsword attack animations make me moist
check each class' channel and then check the pinned messages
Spells and Guns is VERY unreliable
it gets outdated a bunch
@rustic basalt yeah its outdated but its the only true wiki
Thats unfortunate
btw if you're wondering, the maps are randomized now, there's no need to look up an online map with spawns and stuff
dear diary
what is set theory
im a big fan of the bardiche and spear in terms of just how they feel purely
but just remember to use the hability to run faster or you are not gonna catch nobody in this current wipe
game is legit dog meat rtn
The sounds of the bottles in your inventory as well I sat there for 5 minuets moving bottles lmao
if you wanna be stealthy, take all the potions off of your belt btw.
forced to play trios is so trash!!! legit done with this game. games so dead now
Thats how i spotted someone for my first PvP incounter and they me, lol
are the quest cosmetic rewards available yet?
they're the first thing someone will see
they're ridiculously bright honestly
rule #1
bandages on your belt only
owners of this game should visit the place Logan paul went too on his yt LMAO after what they have done to this game. game is dead and trash now its sad
its not like they could just do a poll or something
game is a dying fire at this point. forcing players to play trio only was putting gas on a fire for players to quit
or a Q&A
can someone help me with killing warlord for challenge i can pay something for it
or interact at all with the members of the server even, at least
Guys can we PLEASE revert the match making changes
they want the game to DIE so they wont LMAO
i lived for solo
Yeah ive noticed not a single dev has said a single word
its Ironmace, they don't commit to anything
they'll fold
game is dying already no way to save it its sad.. i know so many people who quit indefinitely
I want to play less because of trios only for sure
Im pretty new so its just discouraging to only be able to play solos in HR when I like playing these kinds of games as a solo
They should remove normal all together and use high-roller as the new base with reduced loot drops with solo/duo and trio brackets.
Then they should introduce a High-High Roller which is a much smaller map and has player caps 4/4 players
anyone else doing mystical gems have empty marvelous chests? I've done 2 in a row now and both times the chest is empty
They should make a mode where you need to sacrifice your firstborn inorder to enter
theres a million ideas that would be better than this but unfortunately all the decisions are made by one person who doesnt think
whats best class to use for HR in squire gear?

they also love making these changes unannounced with no warning mid wipe and absolutely demolishing the meta
100g is not your firstborn - but also it doesnt matter what change they make positive or negative the discord community is always going to complain - so i understand why they dont come here for feedback
I will admit the "siting in tavern and chatting on the discord" meta seems to be working
the notes seemed so hollow too, like he barely even acknowledged the fact he was just alienating the majority of the playerbase
what if you ran out of money 😨
He is just encouraging you to challenge yourself
then you have to buy a whole new account :)
perfection
most hardcore extraction shooter
he speaks alot in the new kitchen channel about it
he said a whole lot of nothing in that channel is what i saw
" I will always do my best" ~sdf
How’re yall making your money? No PVE and I’m honestly so bored of ratting around.
My goal was to solo boss, so I was spamming them the past week or so to get em down. But now that I have them down.. no more solos
bruh after this update I cannot stop fucking dying and losing money
I was doing just fine when I could run solo commons
While I do like the idea of trying to challange the player, it should be the players choice to do so
ehh more or less. At least he's communicating a bit more now
idk to me it seems silly to randomly push an update like this one and then say "haha yo btw my b for not rly communicating but im communicating now smile"
actual communication would have been announcing theyre considering removing solos and duos and seeing how people react
how is xp earned and distributed in a party? killing blows only? any sharing? I've heard opening portals is xp?
What stats should I be building my fighter twoards?
dexterity if you run longsword
definitely don't sell yourself short on bard, just remember 3 things:
- take your stack of 5 basic long-lasting buffs, always
- always bring unchained for chests and to escape through doors while dodging
- shriek anything that takes more than 3 hits to kill
When i first started playing you could barely afford potions and had to regularly sit to recover health... extract with nothing buy whites and greens.. smh people have it all nowadays and still complain.
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the game is so much better changed from the masochistic experience
why the actual fuck are there duo and trio teams in solo que high roller?
big mad about having no other solo modes and hate having to deal with bis i guess
move speed bonus, strength, dexterity to swing faster and use sword mastery, the fighter skills are the most of meta thing I've ever seen, but at least is something
game is literly unplayable
But why not be happy that its more accessible so more people will want to pick it up?
Skill issue, never been easier
Game is utter garbage. trying to level solo sucks ass now. GG ironmace
I think the current state of the game is great. it's the newcomers who are complaining with 0 idea as to where we have come from, just get in and grind. it was substantially harder at the start
Why take the normal braket out?
1/10 rage bait
sword mastery, counterattack, swift if you want to use heavy armor, then you may use barricade so if you miss a parry you have at least some protection, or the other skill that I don't remember but allows you to deal more damage, i think it was combo attack
Dark and Darker John over here
So you saw teaming for the first time and the games now unplayable ? lol learn to regulate your emotions carebear
How much does the Breath of The Deceased sell for at vendor?
i actually think the game feels great. or did, when i could play solo norms
no a literal 3 que brother
How’re yall making your money? No PVE and I’m honestly so bored of ratting around.
My goal was to solo boss, so I was spamming them the past week or so to get em down. But now that I have them down.. no more solos
I like the game too but I don't wanna have to random queue or LFG in this Discord every time I play until I am used to running HR and have the money to gear consistently
Thats fair. I belive the majority of new players are used to the more standard safe extraction games now, which is a shame, I'm enjoing how challenging it is even though its been dumbed down a bit
what games do you mean lol
I've been running cyclops but I wanna learn troll for pelts
just keep distance and move to the right, and when he does the slam, attack him
i was doing wendies before they nuked the white lobbies and i uninstalled
You can throw yourself into a game of fortnite and gain stuff from dying, but this game you get punished for it and some players find that bs and too steep of a punishment
i circle left, i dont know how yall do right when he does that slow long range horizontal sweep
and when he is standing in one foot like if he wanted to throw something, duck and look to the ground standing right beneath his foot
not played in a while do the <24 and 25-124 gs lobbies still exist?
Thanks that didn’t help but good to know. Appreciate it
play more, die less.
I wanna try and do that again but it didn't go well the first time bc I haven't playeed Ice mountain at all basically
i was hunting wendigos, is that more helpful
you should never be getting the sweep attack, that comes after he hits you with the roar
Nah. Since that’s not relevant to current patch. Thanks tho
I miss only solo mode.
How’re yall making your money? No PVE and I’m honestly so bored of ratting around.
My goal was to solo boss, so I was spamming them the past week or so to get em down. But now that I have them down.. no more solos.
Current patch.
I agree fully. Every encounter ive lost I've been able to understand i was at fault. The problem is some people cant seem to accept they made the wrong play and they yell at the game for it
what is their current price? they are still used to make a ring item, but i dont know how strong that ring is
Me too man. Tired of having 2 brainless teammates that dont talk.
I think with slow long range you mean the charged attack where he raises his foot, you have to duck, look to the ground standing where the foot he raised was and pray
Agreed
Video or it didn’t happen
i think it's this like he's a 100 ton ballerina, he never does this when i circle left
"I need to google how to min max a game" "I only want to do the meta thing right now" "whatever makes the most money I need to be doing it, tell me what to do so i can go do it"
Dude just play the game. Try to have fun, you're gonna make money just escaping
same
I can't do PvP anymore because my team isnt organized because people dont talk
thanks for answer guys 🙂 /s
so the queues aren't split as much as they would be lol
Brother I’ve played the game for over 2k hours and just had my money making strats nuked and lost my teammates.
Politely fuck off
Just trying to look for a reason to keep playing
ah sorry I didnt see your message, no, there is, adventure mode, normal dungeons only trios with equipment up to rare, and high roller where you can play solo
He's an elitist nerd, just ignore him. They all say the same shit
I'd rather just switch over to Chiv 2 at that point but at least you can make a littttle money off of it now lol
Fr dude. I’d use the LFG but this is the personality of the entire player base.
"I've played the game for over 2k hours and need people to tell me what to do in the game"
Chat, are we cooked?
So if you have enough hours you just can't ask anyone about anything? Is that right?
yeah its garbage loot mostly but its good PvP practice
You’re foolish. Get a grip man
game is cooked until they give us a community lead
Im sorry but why only trios...
They sell for a fair price. I stand corrected. But it does seem like they sell really slowly. I think people just buy the ring instead of roll for it
I wanna go duos
sdf wants you to suffer
Maybe a more complex question would make sense
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Same man. Only trios sucks.
It wouldn't be IM if they didn't do some goofy shit mid wipe
It must be a sad life inside that head. Always bring down those around you. I’d hate that life man, I really would.
It sucks there arent solos because i dont like feeling like im dragging my team down all the time.
Its early access boys chill - you should expect changes they are testing heaps of stuff to make the most optimised decisons in the final release
If he asked a simple question, then why didn't you give a simple answer? You went straight to being a dirtbag
any idea if we are supposed to get our kits back after pressing "exit dungeon" while still being alive in adventure mode?
If you want a full release come back in 1+ year or smth
Because I can't link a clip of Subway Surfers along with my comment so he could pay attention to it
I recommend you to play without autofill, as I said better 1v3 than 1v5
You're not helping your case at all here. Welp, you're on the block list now
4 years in and we are having an entire player base’s preferred experience stripped away. It’s a valid crash out.
Solo and duo were never going to be balanced, that’s alright. Just put the word “experimental” next to the queue so folks know what they’re getting themselves into
btw is not always 1v3 since the people who played solo and duos are still playing trios just because they like the game
this is the most blissfully ignorant message ive seen
Agreed.
I tried some random trios. It was fun sometimes, but Rogues running BiS nonsense like Brave Hunters, +3 All and +4 True really breaks the game balance
why aren't you answering his question?
It feels like as only having a duo the duo playstyle is just being given up on and forced into trios
hes been baiting solo/white queue enjoyers since patch day, best to ignore
If it's acknowledged that solo and duos would never be balanced why nerf druids?
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i would argue rare normals is mostly balanced
Common-grade lobbies at least allow people to get around the "gear is completely insane" hurdle. Rogues aren't good without gear, but even in blues they're insane
As a community, stop replying to this guy. Fr. This is what feeds people like him. He can’t get any satisfaction outside of pixels on a screen. Prob has as vitamins deficiency and a high resting heart rate. Feel sorry for him.
I watched a Rogue stab a random Barb we had twice and he lost 65% of his HP. I have genuinely no idea how that counts as balanced
buff druidd to compensate for solo/duo removal pls @glad thunder
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Why are druids still heavily nerfed even after it was acknowledged they were only overpowered due to their ability to optimize their sets higher than other classes due to the ILVL cap and lack of required weapons?
why does shapeshift mastery reduce healing on healing potions?
@fervent bronze btw, I try making money in pvp despite only having trio right now. I try to use stuff that is not too loud or that makes me stand out since I don't wanna get in a 1v3. But that's my only recommendation so far.
Fuck em, druids are still absolute nonsense in solos and the amount of shit they can do is absurd compared to other classes
its the only reasonable outcome tbh. SDF said druid was only powerful in solso cuz they didnt need weapons now everyone can use weapons with no issue buff druid SDF
Not yet, he needs to get rid of solo/duo HR then he can buff druid
Yeah I’ve been doing something similar. It’s just chump change compared to what I could make before. And ratting HR is just SO DAMN BORING
With the removal of ILVL caps there is no reason druids are still stat squished 40%
next thing we know we'll only get a only druid lobbies.
Druids get to be Clerics, Rogues, Barbarians AND their own class all at once. Its broken as fuck
you can run away from one corner of the room to the other in less than 3 seconds, heal all your life with your spells, make two dashes with the panther, transform into a bear, right click, evade almost any melee attack with that and 2 shot your enemy, without mentioning that he was able to get into the bosses room without killing him which is funny af
I don't wanna lost my stuff permantly so I avoid HR for the moment. Which makes me hope that they could at least add a note when selecting mode that clarifies that Goblin Recovery is not available in that mode.
you know that 3seconds is only 0.5seconds faster than a 330ms cleric?
TBH @glad thunder if you’re reducing the queues, that leaves room for 24/7 arena. Please give me a reason to play your game. Fr fr
You’re doing this bullshit when Ark Raiders, HUNGER, and other PvPvE extraction looters are right around the corner. Do you just not see that competition is not gonna be great when those games have an actual team behind them?
Are you a paid actor? This genuinely isn't a joke
LMAOOO bruh every class is broken if you spend 5000 gold in the build
you are doing that with the druid without spending 1 coin bruh
Can we be forreal for a second? Obviously getting rid of solo/duo completely is best for the game. Look at who's complaining, people who only grinded solo to maximize cash. These guys have thousands of hours played and still cry over not being able to min/max in solos, like who cares about them. Get rid of solo/duo HR as well so the game can be good again
You’re one of the worst types of people. Fr. Internalize that and reflect.
And an awful ragebaiter
I actually feel sorry for him.
embed failure, laugh at this user
Probably mad at SDF so he’s just causing chaos in disc
druid can only run, if you die to druid post updates you were alt-tabbed 100%
solo/duo should stay gone
I'm completely serious and the reason I take the time to do it is because I'm sick of the discussion being just people who are upset and come here to scream whereas those of us that like the changes are playing the game and having fun. We need more people to speak up about how great removing solo/duo is for the game
I for sure didn't play solo to grind money. I just don't want to play with randoms, and I don't always have soemone to play with
no? you have to transform into a chicken, then double dash with the panther, and then transform into a rat and get into the window of some door
I tanked 9 panther hits in squire on my sorc and ele bolted for the close range 1shot
then you heal all your life, pass through the window again, transform into panther and spam click
But why does it matter if people just wanna farm gold all day? Shouldnt a videogame be played for fun?
i still had 1/5 hp
I only play trios with my friends. But sometimes our schedules don't align so I go solo.
are solo players still a no go? no more solo pvp unless you have the rarest gear ingame wtf?
No you didn't lmao, not without video proof
just to watch the solo only players mald
we are not malding we are uninstalling the game EZ
They can farm it in the 3s lobbies then so the game can improve instead of being held back by solo/duo queues
yeah, i have never seen the tankest cleric tanking 9 hits with a panther