game-discussion

[ocean nymph]

Honestly, it's the only best option now. =/

[eternal pawn]

but playing solo norms cuz u suck is not a valid reason. a lot of people in here do that

[low raptor]

Love random teaming with people whose IQ matches their sub 50 gear score🫡

[sullen gate]

most people suck right? Alienating most people from your game is not good for business

[torn crow]

What do you think we had very first few wipes? there was no PVE there was no post master, or goblin merchant insurance. You had to risk it ALL

[mild shell]

anyone doing arena

[plush sky]

Solo norms being more populated than HR...yet they get rid of it.

[eternal pawn]

i mean sure but hr is not 12 artifact sweats like they make it out to be. On EU its 2 geared players and the rest is poor people

[undone torrent]

more ppl was on normal run vs hr run soo maybe start listening the real communnity not the sweat lord community who play 150 hours a week maybe maybe

[plush sky]

Facts tho

[sullen gate]

I cant afford to go into HR kitted over and over while I lose to OP barbs and druids. I dont have enough wiggle room to learn PVP anymore, especially if I cant play arena the few days its unlocked

[undone torrent]

avoid melee vs barb druid and ur good

[eternal pawn]

for solos i assume its rly bad to learn the game rn sure.

[nova heron]

i have a 1000 hrs and game played 25 matches only came out of the dungeon 2 times. L patch

[sullen gate]

As if running away from a druid is a reliable strat lol

[undone torrent]

druid u need to hit him in the head when panther form or run

[eternal pawn]

gl doing that if he runs an actionspeed kit and transforms into bear over and over. the only beatable druids are the ones that suck

[plush sky]

Can't run anymore since they got double pounce

[sullen gate]

I mean yeah thats what i try to do, but its hard to do everything I need to do as a bard while staying calm when iv won like 1/30 interactions with druids

[undone torrent]

druids and barb are broken actually i know bois but rogue kinda too

[near stump]

druids are aids

[eternal pawn]

druid is "fun" but doesnt fit into the game cuz its legit unbalancable

[sullen gate]

guess i should just make a druid account and start being part of the problem

[torn crow]

every class is op in their own way lmao

[undone torrent]

nah not really

[eternal pawn]

some classes have 1-2 good matchups while druid can shit on everyone

[undone torrent]

25 strengh 25 vigor base stats barb would give u some idea of what im talkin about

[plush sky]

Barb is most broken in commons, while other classes scale better

[coarse dock]

most people dont understand barb is kinda shit in high gear, otherwise arena rankings wouldn't be 50 percent fighters and rangers last season with like only 3 barbs in top 100

[undone torrent]

barb is broken on norm squire hr like droods now

[eternal pawn]

hr? with 300 ms? doubt it

[plush sky]

Exactly, but they are absolutely OP in squire and even rare, after that they fall off hard

[undone torrent]

300ms on hr u build ur barb wrong u can literally socket movespeed and all attrib now

[sullen gate]

im surprised fighter is high ranking. They have so little flexibility

[plush sky]

They just have no weaknesses in high gear

[undone torrent]

200+ hp on buff barb is unkillable now go check dripgravy playstyle u will see what im talkin about

[plush sky]

Any good ranger won't allow that barb to close the gap, or sorc. Sure he would stomp melee, that's the whole point of barb.....lol

[undone torrent]

yea fransisca and drum and acchille strike is like the go

[nocturne heath]

do you recive items back from the goblin if u die highroller

[quick grove]

different classes should have different move speeds, why is rogue as fast as a barb (you don't get your items back in hr)

[undone torrent]

60percent pdr 200+ hp ur literally unkillable ranger or not u go melee u 2 shot him

[plush sky]

See that's something that needs to be fixed. Perhaps not necessarily the class itself, but it doesn't make sense a fighter in full plate runs as fast as a rogue.

[coarse dock]

if true he wouldve have represented top 100 more in arena and hr. especially true for arena

[torn crow]

So the meta this season is vigor?

[undone torrent]

its about time boys let barb get the top 100 the buff is like days before what ur talkin to me

[plush sky]

Problem is arena is a range dominated meta, and it's too hard for barbs to be consistent that way

[undone torrent]

who care about arena

[quick grove]

a lot of people

[heady hamlet]

fuk this shit, back the duos

[plush sky]

Well the terarded devs (see what I did there) base class balance and everything off of trios in arena specifically so...the whole game cares about arena lol

[sullen gate]

Duos my beloved 😦

[undone torrent]

arena is supposed to be the main mode or what dont tell me barb and drood are okey state now

150 hp with one perk no equip on barb dont tell me thats ok

barb and barber nice work

[quiet sun]

why tf cant u bring named into arena now

[plush sky]

Druid been imba for too long now, and giving them double pounce was not smart. Barb was in a bad place be4 the buff but is now again broken for squire/rare lobbies but they scale horribly compared to every other class. I would know...barb main lol. 150 hp one perk yes, however they suffer on everything else. Dog resource so negative cdr, horrible interaction speed. Dex and agi at an all time low, they only move fast when ur debuffed and they r buffed. That's why in higher GS barb falls off cuz everyone has max MS

[warped echo]

just pick rogue and run in circles he never catch u

[undone torrent]

Im not from na im from eu where the true skill

[calm summit]

How tf can’t I play solo not in hr

[clear magnet]

trios only for everything BUT highroller??? top 3 dumbest changes they have ever made, and there is a lot of those,,,,,

[severe coyote]

they want to be like dungeonborne

[undone torrent]

i told u its about time before u get stomped by barb and realise something is wrong

[heavy otter]

A dead game 🤔

[warped echo]

why not use that true skill u got to out smart barb then

[clear pendant]

normals shouldnt even exist since theres a pve mode, casuals just go play skyrim again

[rich turtle]

when is wipe ???

[clear magnet]

yeah idk about that, it GENUINLEY seems like they are tanking their game. They are so incompetent its horrible.

[plush sky]

Pve mode is a waste of time and more toxic than hr. Norms actually had value to learn stuff from.

[severe coyote]

Goofy response. Go touch grass.

[warped echo]

agreed

[undone torrent]

ok quick facts checks u need to outrun him poke him hope he dont get in melee or gne gne he 2 shot no skill involve right here

[plush sky]

Dude, if u can't dodge the slowest weapon in the game....bardiche...skill issue...again I'm a barb main so that's on you. Eu true skill though LOL

[autumn jacinth]

yo anyone know how to post that invite in the lfg chat

[undone torrent]

u make him low he come to ur melee ur dead point blank period .

the problem is not the 2h barb buddy go check dripgravy build club round shield is the true cancer

[plush sky]

So do u just rush in and try to facerush the barb? Or have u tried outplaying them? Closing a door, sneaking around, (yea they can bust doors) but barbs play very poorly around corners. Outplaying someone is how u win

[timber wraith]

ANYONE ELSE GETTING A WIERD GRAPHIC BUG WHEN CHANGING WEAPONS??

[urban haven]

forced trios is so dumb lol

[plush sky]

Like u can be a god at melee and someone less skilled than u melee wise outplays u and u lose, the head game is as much a factor to winning pvp than the fighting is

[formal scarab]

huge group of buddies all wanting to queue starter gear lobbies and to not even exist is wild. wtf is this dev doing

[undone torrent]

u run he heal full

[plush sky]

So u heal full too and u ignore? Why re engage knowing ur gonna die? Or again, when he starts to heal u outplay.....lol also potion chugger isn't a thing anymore this patch since berserker became OP

[undone torrent]

250hp on buff u cant face him 2 shot u

[obtuse estuary]

No solos in norms is a little bit insane

[signal osprey]

Why does ironmace really not want me to play the game? First i couldnt play highroller till level 20 no big deal ill play kiddy rounds till 20. Now i cant play solo until level 20??? why in the world would they split gamemodes this way. I havent played in a while and now i see i wont be playing for even longer. This was absolutely the wrong direction. Gearscore was never a good idea in the first place. The game is not ment to be "fair". Instead of making normals strictly tutorial and just having HR become the actual normal gamemode, they decided to absolutely destroy queing entirely. Who is this helping? Why all the splits in rarity and team size. Absolutely bonkers theyve made goblin caves which was intended as the solo map into strictly trios while blocking people from playing solo on the SOLO MAP. Whats crazier is you people that dont even play the game praise the devs for this. What happened when sdf said he was going back to the original vision. The original vision hasnt been around since pre season. The slow death of this game is worse than if they just outright killed it right now. I

[warped echo]

they listen to streamers guy they dont give a sh about the common player get used to it

[undone torrent]

the prob is the hp pool of barb

[plush sky]

Legit though they are purposefully killing the game slowly so they can show in court the finances and declare bankruptcy and not pay nexon the 6 mill dude. Cuz if u shut the game down while it's making money, that won't pass through court if u declare bankruptcy. If you kill the game before you have to pay though...

[signal osprey]

you might be onto something

[urban haven]

yea they are never going to be able to pay that

[undone torrent]

theyre like a drood on bear form now nice work devs but quicker with more dmg and debuff

[signal osprey]

LOL i cant wear a single purple into actual normals. who comes up with this?

[plush sky]

Druid is and always been imba cuz that's sdf's main class

[undone torrent]

i told u its about time before ppl see barb true potential

[signal osprey]

WAIT WAIT WAIT starter level is no pvp??? yooo every 10 seconds im slapped in the face with ridonkuls changes thats happened over the past 2 months

[near stump]

Its BETA and needs testing welcome to being the lab rats

[plush sky]

Unless you activate pregnant goblin cheat skin, you are stuck pve for 19 levels LOL

[obtuse estuary]

Whats the over under on them bringing back solos in norms?

[signal osprey]

boy do i love to pve in my "Hardcore pvp extraction" game

[undone torrent]

xd

[plush sky]

Pve could have been an amazing mode, especially to learn the maps/mobs/bosses, etc. Except there are 500 people per lobby so gl.

[signal osprey]

this is because of all those nerds asking for a pve only gamemode and instead MAKING A SEPERATE GAME they tried to integrate it. So wild. Whats next battle royale storm is returning to dark and darker i mean come on give me a break

[oblique crest]

You guys are doing well I see

[undone torrent]

oh and iron will 15percent magic resist ignore knock back who tell me barb is ok

[dire heron]

Idk if imma play even if they put solos back i had fun playing legacy today

[plush sky]

Who cares about that? It's like the only counter to sorc/wiz dude they need that

[fair knot]

Anybody else have express man change the rarity and rolls of an item they gave him?

[undone torrent]

130 base hp

[signal osprey]

whats legacy??

[severe coyote]

this trash version of the game

[pine bone]

that doesnt/never happened you just have dementia

[obtuse estuary]

Its good for quickly leveling for perks but other than that I see no reason if the

[warped echo]

dont play this sh until they bring back solo/duos this is a travesty

[plush sky]

Even then when there are 500 people in the same lobby u will average out less exp per match, like I know where you're coming from though

[undone torrent]

u go movespeed barb u r good

[fair knot]

I don't have dementia express man turned my legendary BIS occultist tunic into a bad purple

[obtuse estuary]

Yeah but you also don't have to worry about getting landmined when going through red or getting randomly exploded by a sorc and can focus on clearing and looting and extracting

[pine bone]

cant wait until they change the move speed meta shits so unbelievably boring and stale

[undone torrent]

pve mode is good for questing

before it was pain the centaur thing to loot paiiiin feather paiiiiin

[timber oar]

new update sucks. we dont want to play 3v3. we are a 2 man and we dont want to play the try hards in artifact gear on duo. played one game got deleted. cant enjoy the game without 3 people now.

[swift wind]

I'm confused the arena queue says you retain all items. Can i bring items i didn't mint and keep them?

[undone torrent]

yea u go move speed barb ur a petrol king with that a bit of extra hp no one like really no one gonna kill u

[vital lark]

MAKE A REPORT FUNCTION FOR AFK

[severe coyote]

Leave a bad review, vote by not playing.

[torn crane]

i know men, this sucks, i just want to do some kinda 0-24 pvp 2-3 hours solo or with a friend and cant XD big rip

[scarlet locust]

these devs have got to be trolling

[warped echo]

This is the correct course of action.

[undone torrent]

fransisca drum move speed ur good 250 hp on buff hit like a truck

[outer ledge]

Just don't queue with randoms, die, and stay in game in PVE hoping for a revive - they can troll you and give your gear to other players.

[timber oar]

thats what we are doing

[urban haven]

yea people complain about every update and say they are going to quit but after this i actually understand

[undone torrent]

and the facts the devs play like u can play f2p but dont have all the content is kinda cringe marketing

[fair knot]

false alarm i have dementia

[undone torrent]

yep

[outer ledge]

Do you think they'll make minted status matter for anything this wipe?

[outer ledge]

As far as I have seen, yes.

[scenic frost]

So wait, if I am understanding this properly.. It's impossible to now go into normals as a solo, without being underdog at least? It's just gonna 1v3s?

[zinc totem]

If dnd removed Druid from the game would it be better or worse?

[desert lark]

This new update sucks bro

[warped echo]

dont forget to leave a nice steam review for them removing solo/duo

[safe spruce]

yup like why did they do this

[outer ledge]

Their perspective was to reduce the amount of dead lobbies. Less queues force more players into the same instances.

[heady estuary]

so low tier solos just arent a thing anymore w plastic hammer

[zinc totem]

Wait for real? I can’t play HR solo anymore? Stopped playing last month and my sanity is back

[pulsar rock]

Is Dark and Darker dead?

[desert lark]

Definitely didn’t work the people who play the game don’t like it every update so far has only made the game worse the updates haven’t been the greatest love playing it but holy smokes so hard to like something like this

[outer ledge]

HR Solo is still available. Only normals got reduced to trio exclusively.

[zinc totem]

Lmao you ain’t even playing the game if you not on HR

[outer ledge]

Person I replied to asked about HR though?

[weary granite]

no the real reason is because ironmace cant afford the game anymore. the people buying the game have stopped, the people playing the game maybe buying the cosmetics have stopped. so what do they do? cut out a ton of servers saving their money.

i know for sure, this update has stopped 3 of my friend groups who are free to play. they flat out said they were not going to buy because they dont wanna be forced to fight sweats in hr.

try legacy steel and sorcery. very fun, not b r a i n dead dev decisions, healthy community fun gameplay 🙂

sucks because i think most will still try to play, but as soon as they get in hr and bonked by someone moving 330 with their weapon out, in fully gemmed plus all gear because they dont have a social life or swipe their credit card will see that its just not fun anymore.

[north knoll]

@glad thunder i found a bug in your game, i cant play SOLO!!!!

[weary granite]

streamers are the vile of games anymore. i dont wanna hear about marketing or exposure either. games did just fine before streamers came along. they just wanna pander and meander to whatever keeps the audience engaged enough for their 300 viewers to pay their rent.

[stray narwhal]

You can, go to HR

[desert lark]

Ew who wants to play that trying to have fun

[weary granite]

worst take ever. you shouldnt have to be forced into hr to play solos. its almost laughable anyone who thinks that is ok. you are nothing better then a shil if you have that opinion.

[tidal blaze]

Not to mention if you are free to play. You cant even do HR

[north knoll]

i just want to play normals SOLO, not 1v3 or with randoms

[weary granite]

like sobadsostrange is telling everyone its a w patch. like whatever keeps that tools viewer count high enough is w.

[obtuse shuttle]

maybe a noob question but i started yesterday how does the goblin service work?

[desert lark]

If you die with stuff he cane get it back and sell it back to you

[scenic frost]

Cool, get wiped out by a fully kitted 3 stack because I'm a poor solo that really can't do much. STUPID UPDATE IRONMACE

[earnest current]

every time i report 1 hacker get ban , never wrong so i go 100% report right but wih this report system help nothing , and game hate solo player

[fallen glade]

What stat increases play speed for bards?

[tall marlin]

patch is perfect for this wipe, in next when new map come and probably some new classes bring back Solos and duos and game gonna grow up crazy, now for 6-7K players per day trio q normal and solo q hr is crazy good

[obtuse shuttle]

k thanks

[swift wind]

Yeah I had two people today tell me you only keep minted gear. Complete lie.

[stray narwhal]

What’s the point of playing a loot extractor and running around with 0 loot and opening chests to get green items, don’t play loot extractors if you don’t want to go and find good loot and you just want to roleplay or kill new players who don’t know what they are doing.

[tidal blaze]

Its been happening a looooot. I watched like 5 rounds.... 4/5 had bis gear trios. 1 matched I watched there was a trio who killed like..... 3 solos

[elfin fern]

because above-white dungeons are accounting simulator

[desert lark]

Are you slow ? I’ve definitely found at least legendary loot, and plenty of great purples and sorry I don’t wanna go against people with 1000 hours plus so maybe try using your brain

[prime crypt]

1000 hours does not mean a player is good

[tidal blaze]

pardon 🤓

[elfin fern]

yeah ive probably spent 2k of my 2400 hours on opening chests not on fighting players

[tall marlin]

if you want to be better in game you must learn against better players… something normal about this game about all in life

[obtuse shuttle]

personally man i started yesterday and it was way more chill to solo in the mode with the restricted gear because at least there you knew you had somewhat equal gear, now you can't do that anymore when playing solo.. almost everyone is in a team

[stray narwhal]

I’m a steam release player, when I was getting hard dumped on when I had 100 hours I enjoyed the game because it was difficult, I wanted to go into HR and soon as I could, doesn’t make sense to me why you’d chose to play a difficult game but then just choose the easy mode to kill new players because you’ll get rolled in HR

[desert lark]

I’m still a semi new player …

[elfin fern]

tons of people just dont want to spend the time necessary on gear dungeons, and plenty of those players are skilled. some of them are bullies, and you'd end up fighting them if you queued into white lobby

[prime crypt]

I’ve seen many people say this about themselves

[elfin fern]

i dunno people just have a lot of misconceptions about the solo/white queues and its so weird to me

[stray narwhal]

So ultimately that’s why you’re mad because other people are better than you, it’s healthier for the game this way and it’s a selfish reason to want normals back

[tidal blaze]

YEAH FUCK THE NEW PLAYERS

[mighty mulch]

Boy I sure do love getting fucked riding solo in exclusively trios matches. What a really great decision this was for the game, you're right

[sudden shuttle]

Is it healthier for the game or will it kill off more players.... probably kill off more players

[elfin fern]

to be completely fair to him you did say you are ass lol

[desert lark]

Ok I don’t have fun getting dunked on by players I had funny going against people in the same rang mad I was having fun on a game and they keep changing it

[tidal blaze]

kinda mad insane how toxic they are about the idea of solo duos normal coming back.

[mighty mulch]

The fact that solos are only on HR AND that HR no longer allows anything to come back via Goblin Merchant is straight garbo development lmao

[dark chasm]

Facts

[stray narwhal]

I don’t think many people enjoy being dunked on, but unfortunately playing a hardcore style game with a harsh style, you can’t expect to just having an easy route

[obtuse shuttle]

if they wanted more players to fill queues then they should've made it more friendly to f2p players

[elfin fern]

yeah agree, especially when it is somehow not selfish to think the queues should all be pooled into yours mainly so that you have more people to punch down on

[mighty mulch]

This is EXACTLY what it boils down to.

[stray narwhal]

That’s literally not what they want, they want the game to be a hardcore style game, not easy for new players

[elfin fern]

that's what so much of this playerbase is, they are masochists and/or sadists, they enjoy causing suffering or feeling like they've earned the ability to cause it through their own suffering

[tidal blaze]

They gotta feel successful while doing their 9-5 grind fest obviously

[mighty mulch]

Good luck bullying the mass exodus. Y'all's lobbies aren't getting more populated by this, the player count dwindles.

[strong junco]

where is ugly ass SDF he's a restard

[obtuse shuttle]

they did say they needed more players to fill the all the queues, i feel like you're not gonna get more players with this move

[stray narwhal]

Playerbase at its highest today than the entire month, unlucky bud

[strong junco]

who in their right mind would take away all of soloing other than the one game mode no one ever plays hahahahah sdf you are a actual peanut brain

[mighty mulch]

It's Memorial Day weekend, genius

[woeful raft]

if you play ranger in arena, you are dog.

[stray narwhal]

Not the same thing, they don’t want dungeons to feel empty so they reduced queues as there was over 300 queues.. not then same.

[elfin fern]

even if this is true, the cause is really just more player activity, not the fact that the game is "more hardcore"

[desert lark]

Are you slow bro?

[tidal blaze]

the smalls wins im I right

[stray narwhal]

Nah the reason it’s at its highest because they made a good update

[obtuse shuttle]

thats what happens when you dont have players though, it is true that this game is not very friendly to people that don't spend anything and they could fix that if they want more players

[warped echo]

hahaha

[desert lark]

Definitely not if we’re hearing more people leaving

[elfin fern]

how do you know? did you ask all the thousands of extra players why they stayed?

people complained about the lobbies being dead, not about the game being "too ez im bored"

[tribal grove]

You can block Lich orb w quarter staff correct?

[stray narwhal]

I mean yeah also true, they do advertise the game as F2P when it basically isn’t so you’re not wrong

[tidal blaze]

So in theory. Since the numbers are big today... if they are lower tomorrow. It doesnt matter because of the win today

[elfin fern]

you get it, i already spend enough time in marketplace and goldsmith, why would i want to make that most of my gameplay when i can queue white lobby and marathon shit

[stray narwhal]

Numbers speak for themselves, they bring out a good update, people want to try it

[elfin fern]

correlation isn't causation

[desert lark]

Definitely not how it works

[tidal blaze]

Also this is untrue. Infact. Numbers were higher on may the 10th

[elfin fern]

next friday would be a more solid read tbh, because workweek is going to be a dip

[sudden shuttle]

I{ mean if we're talking numbers look at the original beta.... the game is a dumpster fire

[tidal blaze]

Just gotta let it ride out see who remains

[obtuse shuttle]

the game is pretty fun but unless you're cod or a good single player game ur not getting a big playerbase if you don't want to keep f2p players playing

[stray narwhal]

Just baffles me how people chose to play a hardcore dungeon crawler and then cry when they take out timmy lobbies where you risk NOTHING to gain loot, just go play PvE if you’re that scared of losing gear

[mighty mulch]

What are you even talking about, highest number for a month, anyway? Peaked at 14.5k today, 15k last weekend, 16.5k two weeks ago, 18k a month ago

[elfin fern]

you're being impatient and not using logic, which is why you're baffled

[warped echo]

got em

[tidal blaze]

Baffling how someone would go sooooo far to make sure their special game remains special to a limited few and is unwilling to let new people grow and learn

[unkempt grail]

real

[desert lark]

Baffling how someone would go sooooo far to make sure their special game remains special to a limited few and is unwilling to let new people grow and learn

[tidal blaze]

Ah... mordhau

[stray narwhal]

Learn the hard way brother, don’t take the easy way out in a hardcore game by playing gearless lobbies, go minecraft survival mode if ur scared of losing stuff

[zinc dust]

are quests account wide now? havent played in a while

[stray narwhal]

Arena exists

[mighty mulch]

Yes!

[unkempt grail]

how are you supposed to learn as a solo tho?

[desert lark]

What?

[obtuse shuttle]

in the end i think it will be reverted if people are turned off by the game because of this change, its just a question of time to see how this change affects the playerbase

[elfin fern]

they're going to solve that problem by just deleting solos from hr too

[unkempt grail]

i replied to ur reply my bad, idk how discord works

[stray narwhal]

Many successful games restrict their queues to non solo queue. I’m confident it’s healthier. You won’t grow as a player playing gearless timmy lobbies imo.

[split solstice]

IS THE BOSS JUST PERMA SPAWNING WITH NO SUMMON ITEM???

[tidal blaze]

Brother... just because someone disagree doesn't mean they aren't a hardcore enjoyer. Just because I don't agree doesn't make me scared of losing shit. I'm more worried about the players. Unlike you, you could care less for the timmies coming through obviously. Hell 2 of my friends are put off by this. However im still gonna do my naked runs in HR solo to max profits

[mighty mulch]

Won't grow anything by spending a day or two gearing just to instantly lose it in one game, either. You WILL see player loss because of this.

[desert lark]

Is being careless a problem some people just prefer it like that way why are you such a crybaby about being geared?

[strong junco]

I'm forsure boycotting this game until they get rid of SDF i'm sorry. Bottlenecking all the changes through that man child has always been the problem

[tidal blaze]

Regardless of what is said people are speaking with their reviews on steam at least

[stray narwhal]

Minority crying about it, the rest of us actually want to play a loot extractor where loot has value and we can actually run into players instead of playing a game with nobody to run into

[obtuse shuttle]

on the top 10-20 on steam that i played i can think only of apex legends and delta force and both of these games are 1000000 times more friendly to f2p players because you can actually do everything in the game without paying

[wet quartz]

I’d like to play solo queue lobby at least epics and below would be nice since better games players would min max their gear anyways making it unfun to anyone running a lot below 1k gold

[elfin fern]

i have two seasons of demi and just havent bothered past exemplar this season. that isnt a flex its just that im familiar with hr.

the point is that people like low effort stuff. they don't want to spend time kitting, they dont want to spend time building teams.

they'd rather just be in the dungeon and scrapping or opening chests. there is absolutely nothing wrong with that

[tidal blaze]

Average new player probably from steam. If they check recent reviews... see the growing negative stuff. Not to mention discussion where hell... some are warning people not to play right now. It doesnt paint a good view for the game...

[desert lark]

I don’t know the games that I were playing there’s a bunch of people in it so no clue what you’re complaining about

[obtuse shuttle]

even riot had to go back on their dynamic queue utopia once playerbase fell so its just a question of time, if people dont like it then it will be reverted for sure

[smoky jetty]

I cant boss in europe anymore its impossible thats why I uninstall the game now after 1k hours .... It used to be bad but now they merged it and its so fucking oversaturated. Its 6am in the morning and I got hella people in crypts ... I was doing lich when I had on all doors people at midnight ... as I got eventually killed last phase of the boss I checked their gear to see that all are in minmaxed legys and uniques ... wow nice thanks for merging highroller brackets so I have to deal with these people ... I lost 20k by bossing today specifically at wyvern cause there is people that are jealous and cant apprently do the boss themselfs but go outside of the platfom and shoot missles on the ice blocks to destroy them ... I dont know what they get from it other than a laugh, because my corpse is in the void but this only reflects how toxic this community is, people go in boss rooms like that to camp. I had one guy probably abusing esp ... I was bossing in the storm and he came all the way to the corner of the map to shoot xbow arrows into me killing me eventually and as I spectated this whale he just went red and didnt even care about my corpse or the boss itself?????? why is this so bad all of a sudden

[stray narwhal]

I get your point but complaining about a complicated hardcore style game not being “low effort” enough just is silly

[static pendant]

at least I can actually fill queue into a game within a minute now

[elfin fern]

that is the thing my guy, it was low effort enough, they made a game people actually enjoyed casually, and then they shat on it instead of trying other ways to fix dead lobbies

[stray narwhal]

I mean ofc because you’re playing timmy lobbies you’ll run into people all the time. How’s it fun for someone who enjoys actually being geared, putting effort into a kit that you’ve earnt by putting time into the game just to run into nobody for games on end in HR

[stray narwhal]

So you think it’s healthy for a game with 10k player base to have 308 separate queues?

[elfin fern]

read again please

[obtuse shuttle]

so you're gonna force people into hr to have fun? that also sounds bad... dont you also need the pass to play hr? there you go back again to the issue : game is just not friendly to f2p players

[desert lark]

And how is it fun for people who want to casually play the game without running into people who love the game and sweat on it

[stray narwhal]

I did, you’re saying find other ways, or do a simple fix of lowering the ABSURD 308 queues

[smoky jetty]

why is there so many boss room campers? and its always the one in the bis ... are yall really this pathetic???? cowards

[elfin fern]

exactly, find other ways. hamfisting people into mildly geared trios or into hr is not the way, even if it's THE VISION

[obtuse shuttle]

how is it a simple fix if everyone has been ranting about it for hours since it dropped lol

[tidal blaze]

they want the loot and will do anything to get it by god

[smoky jetty]

but my favorite is the same fucking druid and sorc in ice abyss europe hard griefing the boss

[stray narwhal]

Because you can play casually, you can queue with random people into trios, play with your friends in normals, queue into PvE which is extremely low effort or if you fancy it you can play some arena mode where you can just fight people with no gear loss. But because they removed that ONE queue that you played, it’s a problem🤣

[nova heron]

bro the only people that play HR are the people that want to pvp and gear check people. There is no skill in that. Normals was the only place where it came down to pure skill.

[wet quartz]

It’s called high roller for a reason now it’s the only option solo players

[mighty mulch]

Imagine if they removed your queue

[smoky jetty]

1 example: I was bossing at the edge of the map in storm, and fighter was at door shooting xbow to then just dip not even looting anything even reseting the boss ... ehmm what loot?

[stray narwhal]

Not true, if you’re bad at the game you’ll lose a good kit, good players snowball their gear and become even more geared.

[zinc dust]

why cant i play duo right now?

[mighty mulch]

They removed it. Join the club.

[zinc dust]

Wow now i cant play with my friends cool

[desert lark]

Me and my duo just wanna play together and not play against two V3 and not play with a random person so I don’t know, bro

[stray narwhal]

If they removed Solo HR then i’d go play another mode

[tidal blaze]

Oh.. I dont know maybe kill hungry person hoping you would chase them so they can kill and loot you. Thats my other guess

[smoky jetty]

or maybe just a piece of shiit and a coward

[tidal blaze]

True...

[stray narwhal]

Why don’t you go into Duo HR with no gear? You risk 100 gold and if you make it out you’ll gain 10x more than what you would on Normals

[nova heron]

no you dont. Stats play too much of an important role. 80% gear and 20% skill

[mighty mulch]

Yeah? If they only had trios for HR, you'd be happy? X to doubt, brother

[tidal blaze]

What if someone doesnt want to do that

[desert lark]

Dude I just told you we wanna play normal. We don’t wanna play high roller every time we do we go against some cringe shit

[smoky jetty]

streamers like skinny pete complain about 1 guy in the room and says its stream sniper lmfao dude I got like 3 people at least if not more in my boss room and this at midnight time ... eu is way too oversaturated

[stray narwhal]

Probably not but the game would completely die if they removed the hardest mode in the game for a hardcore style game

[elfin fern]

well the thing is now you have blue minmaxers pubstomping and no option for solo people to train for solo queue or just do chill solo runs

the problem is being like "well its a hardcore game" after spending over a year with a casual even-ground low stakes pvp option for every team size

[mighty mulch]

Admit that you're a person who has zero capacity for empathy and move on. This chat will not side with you.

[stray narwhal]

They normally call stream sniper because you run into the same people over and over so it’s normal for them to think that, now half the queues are gone it should feel way better

[tidal blaze]

So... like what they are doing for normals... not the completely dying part though people are still gonna play lets be honest

[stray narwhal]

Yeah removing the good loot mode from a loot extractor game would be healthy sure bud😂

[stray narwhal]

I have no empathy if someone is crying that a game is too hard when it’s advertised as difficult correct.

[desert lark]

Doesn’t matter the game wasn’t as difficult when we started doesn’t have to change. It should be able to stay the same.

[mighty mulch]

Add to list of personal traits: limited reading comprehension skills

[tidal blaze]

So... with your logic... you shouldnt be angry about a trio's only HR because its advertised to be difficult

[stray narwhal]

Ultimately that’s why you’re mad, because you can’t run around in a white kit alone risking absolutely nothing. So yes 🙂

[elfin fern]

the thing is that it isn't even the difficulty, as in, it's not something I can't physically do, it's just something I don't want to deal with the stress of

why would i want to risk anything when i can literally just stack hp and ms, flute chests, run away from every fight, and run to a red and expressman everything

[mighty mulch]

I'd love to be able to run a blue/purple kit and not get absolutely steamrolled by Artifacts, if that's what you mean.

[stray narwhal]

The game was made for trios only so I wouldn’t be mad

[elfin fern]

and that is why i did white lobby, because then i actually had even-keel fights if people decided to attack me, and i wouldnt lose anything in duo+ if my teammates were buns

[desert lark]

Because the game shouldn’t be limited to Trios solo mode should be out

[wet quartz]

The issue with changes this substantial is that solo low gear score has existed the entire game now leaving today without any decent explanation to players who are under the 1k hour mark

[faint hound]

new to the game and server where the cool ppl at to learn from

[wet quartz]

Removing hr and leaving the game in this state are both bad ideas

[tidal blaze]

But you literally said...

Probably not but the game would completely die if they removed the hardest mode in the game for a hardcore style game

in reference of there being only a trio mode. Which was said by @mighty mulch " If they only had trios for HR, you'd be happy?"

[frigid sleet]

bro wtf... they got rid of solos?!?!?!?

[tidal blaze]

ya

[mighty mulch]

Welcome to the shitshow

[stray narwhal]

I get it you might like white gear solos but if you don’t like it that’s it’s gone find a new game, the devs couldn’t care less if noobs are crying over a mode being removed if it it means less queues

[mighty mulch]

They couldn't care less about driving half their already-dwindling playerbase away.... okay......

[frigid sleet]

Why would i wanna play with 2 rando monkeys that would steal my gear? Be honest, lmk

[stray narwhal]

He asked would I be happy, I said probably not, I wouldn’t be mad about it, I just wouldn’t be doing backflips in joy. Both can be true at the same time silly boy

[tired furnace]

only trios is brutal i thought it would be solos gc duos frost but no all trios with 2 animals

[stray narwhal]

I guarantee you after todays update the devs are happy with their decision after the response from the wider community. Couple timmies in general chat ain’t gonna phase them

[inner marsh]

ggs dark and darker 💔 🥀

[subtle heart]

why did they buff pile loot for a few days then nerf it lol

[frigid sleet]

I CANT BELIEVE THEY GOT RID OF SOLOS... THATS ALL I PLAY LOL

[stray narwhal]

They didn’t, solos still available in HR

[tidal blaze]

So you are saying with the things you said....in reference to @mighty mulch comment " If they only had trios for HR, you'd be happy?".. would I quote
"the game would completely die"
But at the sametime...
you wouldnt be mad

[mighty mulch]

It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for em.

[radiant mortar]

what happened to the people that had free accounts on epic games? did they lose the account?

[stray narwhal]

I wouldn’t be mad if the game died no, the game isn’t my life i’d go do something else

[mighty mulch]

You're sure fighting for your life in this chat for someone that isn't a no-lifer.

[tidal blaze]

Alright so.. techinally... you could careless... if the game dies then

[desert lark]

Some people don’t play highroller at all. Why do you have such a problem with that?

[stray narwhal]

Sorc better for solo, wiz better for teams

[indigo dagger]

Is it normal that the game consumes 14 of ram memory? it is 3200mhz and I have 16 in total.

[stray narwhal]

And you can still choose not to play high roller, it’s not a problem. It’s a problem for you because they took your mode away

[tidal blaze]

But you would have a problem if they took highroller away

[desert lark]

Not really not trying to one V3

[toxic sedge]

dont want to go in this f third party trap wich is boss room. I like module fair 1vs1 fights but since this patch HR is EMPTY. Standards modules are empty ! Make me want to quit the game

[stray narwhal]

Meanwhile you’re the one crying saying the game is gonna die😂 just find it funny

[devout pelican]

@stray narwhal your rage baiting for sure at this point

[stray narwhal]

Fill squad exists

[subtle heart]

lib eral

[desert lark]

Also find it funny how nobody’s talking to you they’re just trying to talk to the devs and you’re the only one responding meat riding for real

[placid lotus]

not if you're Australian. It just times out

[warped echo]

l0l he likes the taste of the boot

[subtle heart]

hes smoot h braine d

[stray narwhal]

If you believe the devs read general chat i’ve got some news for you….

[smoky jetty]

What should I do to kill wyvern on Platform if I got at least 2 people griefing me at all times even midnight???? How hard should it get?? Causing me to fly with all my shiit into the void

[desert lark]

Like I said, still riding my meat

[covert gyro]

need 2 for trios ing

[stray narwhal]

I mean I hate getting griefed too but going for the highest loot possible you can’t expect it to be a free boss kill

[subtle heart]

they removed solos u cant be that retarde d to understand ppl wanna play solo in any mode not just hr

[stray narwhal]

Just get good

[tidal blaze]

Isnt it nice how this is the community that is growing, toxic man willing to shut down new players or growing players. Doesnt care if the game dies either way. This is the man we need. To kill it faster day by day

[subtle heart]

its not a skill issue lol u do have autis m

[smoky jetty]

I tried to boss for 10 Hours and Lost 20k …. For That Money I could already bought an artifact

[stray narwhal]

I was a new player once too, I learnt just like everyone else

[subtle heart]

u sound like a retar d simply

[devout pelican]

⬆️

[smoky jetty]

There is way too many people in eu. The merge and removal of epic hr was not good!

[desert lark]

Are you slow? How does it have to do with anything? He wanted to play solos

[subtle heart]

u think i wanna learn the game with 2 randoms ?

[vernal otter]

anyone know if the religion skin stays at end of wipe, or is it just to use for the season?

[river sequoia]

youve been in here for hours asking people if they are slow bed time bro

[stray narwhal]

You think new Apex Legends players cry about not being able to play solos? Probs not

[desert lark]

Definitely hasn’t been hours. I got home from work max an hour ago.

[vernal otter]

cheers, just unlocked it. was praying it wasn't a full waste of time lmao

[river sequoia]

ok then play or go to bed who grinds general chat dnd all night saying the same thing over and over again

[stray narwhal]

Got home from work and instantly hopped in DND general chat since… classic routine

[tidal blaze]

Yeah everyone has been at somepoint. However it doesnt seem like this choice would retain many folk. Even more so new players who may come from steam to see negative review as of recent or look into discussion

[desert lark]

Second person riding my meat let’s go

[stray narwhal]

real🤣

I love watching timmies cry in general because they can’t go in naked and get loot for free anymore🥲🥲😢😢😢

[subtle heart]

u cant compare a game thats never had solos to begin with u do have cance r in ur brain?

[tidal blaze]

I love how I mention the toxic part... and there it is. Just like I said

[devout pelican]

These guys don’t work wanna run high rollers all day and night thinking there big shit lol

[nova heron]

ya keep celebrating whe n 60% player base moves on. You and teh all the sweet lords can have the game to your sleves.

[stray narwhal]

Highest player count today this month , i’m sure we will have a fun time

[tidal blaze]

God forbid someone have a life and want to play a normals run. This isnt the game for them. ** LEAVE TIMMIES ONLY HIGH ROLLERS NOW**

[devout pelican]

@drifting hinge like for real

[vernal otter]

stat wise, not my favourite, but i mean, blue skeleton? fashion lmao

[tidal blaze]

Brother you got proved wrong and still yap about it

[desert lark]

You’ve already been proven wrong once for saying this

[stray narwhal]

Normals still exists bro, just queue with randoms doesn’t make a difference if ur running no gear anyway, got nothing to lose

[river sequoia]

complaining about taking out normals is so delusional, squire pvp farm with 0 loot? like what

[brazen ledge]

I'm about to jump into Arena. Bought a whole kit. Am I going to lose it if I die? Haven't played Arena in a bit, last I played it was only "found by you" you get to keep.

[gaunt swan]

Its more players to pvp im not mad at it i think going in with uniques is a bit much i think they should keep the rare legendary epic highroller lobbies

[elfin fern]

i can tell you never tried it

[tidal blaze]

Oh im leaving the randoms behind. I am a loot goblin first and formoest 👿

[stray narwhal]

Some guy in DND general chat or Steam database, hmmmm which is more reliable

[tidal blaze]

Steam... database proved it also..

[river sequoia]

yeah wrong assumption based off nothing about somebody you dont know keep the delusion farm going instead of arguing in any way. iq showin

[stray narwhal]

Go look it doesn’t take long

[tidal blaze]

Yeah uh.. steamdb... dark and darker.... 1 month player count... may 10th...16,744 players.... today... 14,664 players...

[split niche]

Yo, am i trippin or are there not solos for other dgs anymore

[elfin fern]

you can't imagine how people could enjoy a game mode enough to complain about it being gone?

[stray narwhal]

Comparing active players when it’s 5am in EU to average concurrent a month ago. damn unlucky bro

[subtle heart]

bc they are retarde d

[desert lark]

Its12

[river sequoia]

no you completley ignored everything mentioned in my first comment, and put words in my mouth to make it look like i have a stupid take. go read what i said brainrot

[stray narwhal]

Time zones exist btw

[desert lark]

And don’t tell yours, Lmao

[elfin fern]

what is "delusional" about "complaining about taking out normals"?

[tidal blaze]

I wasnt talking about a month ago... if you REALLY want to mention a month ago. its worse

[river sequoia]

i litteraly SAID IT for the fifth time, my first comment has context bro are you fkin tripping?

[faint hound]

so like if u are new to this game is it basically get fcked ??? the lfgs are so cooked

[elfin fern]

no it doesnt have context lol, if it was in reply to something it must have been esc'd. if that is the case my bad i am not in a great mood as you can probably imagine

[tidal blaze]

Its fucking May and you are saying its the highest its ever been in may. Dog you fucking ragging on, mentally jumping through HUGE HOOPS

[river sequoia]

oh you want to farm squire pvp in lobbies where youd be lucky to find a purple and ok my bad to man i just dont see how its fun

[river sequoia]

every class at 0 power in lobby with no loot and people still pve and find nothing and just barb squire fest i played it plenty it was awful

[stray narwhal]

0 IQ, you can’t compare concurrent active to average players. It’s not the same

[elfin fern]

great way to learn the basics of the class, especially vs other classes, all in different team sizes
ZERO time spent gearing, ZERO time spent searching for teammates

[tidal blaze]

Brother you didnt ever mention average at all in your comments. If you really want to convey that speak it up next time.

[paper forum]

fire update

[elfin fern]

no circle, no running into people with bis, no nightmare mobs

[faint hound]

what is bis

[north knoll]

im queuing with people with common stuff and we are getting destroyed, im -10k gold and all i want is to play solo. f it im going back to counter strike.....

[polar cloud]

<@&988703997378584596> Can i got money back after 100h ? Now i see game is unplayable because of archer

[stray narwhal]

That’s not what I said, You’re looking at AVERAGE PLAYERS, then looking at players CURRENTLY in game and comparing the two…

[paper forum]

I don't think that's how paying for things works

[elfin fern]

means best in slot, but more realistically it just means people having much better gear than you

[faint hound]

ahh i see

[rustic socket]

you crack smoking devs, nerf barbarian. its broken in every bracket. stop kissing frogs and start fixing your shite balanving

[frigid sleet]

bring back solos

[polar cloud]

,,You buy car, after 100km it die" what u do ?

[faint hound]

yes

[glass silo]

Bring back solos duos into rare and W patch sdf

[river sequoia]

it wasnt totally worthless or anything it just wasnt fun, everyone on squire and no loot is so bad, rare trio que was too long, and if you had to practice can on pve even tho its not the same, also its not even like its that much different, que forgotten castle right now and 80% of players are squire gear anyway

[frigid sleet]

i think they just want this game to be 3v3 arenas.... i just joined a game 0 teammates... sick

[paper forum]

when you purchase an early access game, you accept that devs can completely change things whenever they want 👍 If you don't like it, stop playing. Wanting a refund is wild

[stray narwhal]

W UPDATE IRONMACE, THANK YOU FOR MAKING HIGH ROLLER MORE POPULATED🙏 SDF MY GOAT LET HIM COOK🔥🔥

[elfin fern]

eh, i liked solo occasional 1v1s against aggressive people. i liked chill queues with low chance of gear diff, or even where i was at an advantage because bard can loot up so fast

[river sequoia]

what map

[paper forum]

real and true

[drowsy yacht]

no solo que? im just not gunna play anymore

[elfin fern]

i have a couple demis and was on my way to demi this season, but i uninstalled cause of this update
that is how much i loved white lobbies and despise hr

[earnest current]

This report system dont need to be rating and limit , just do like this : If yo report right you earn 500g and if yo report wrong you lost 500g and next time is double , beter than limit

[tidal blaze]

I quote you said "So you think it’s healthy for a game with **10k player base **...""

Keyword is 10k. Now if you were talking about average its 11k. But I assume you mean just current players.

Now we look at steamdb for current of today.... it was a highest of 14k. Now roughly 10k.

You said... its the ""Highest player count today this month , i’m sure we will have a fun time""

Look at steam db... highest of the month was may 10th with 16k.

However even if you MEAN average according the chart given in steam db it is stilll higher then today.

Unless you are talking about the last 30month 11k. Thats another story

[river sequoia]

sure it wasnt bad just dont think its good for the game that being a core part cause everyone just stays there and doesnt progress its like a press W squire pvp farm

[split niche]

fr

[jagged sand]

only trio in normal dungeons <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< classical solo, duo and trio

[stray narwhal]

Not reading allat yap

[elfin fern]

i dunno man i feel like the problem would have solved itself if they put a minimum player count and just queued however long was needed to meet that count

[tidal blaze]

Just like you cant read charts. L man... big L there

[stray narwhal]

Bro went through all the stats and wrote out a paragraph for nothing, L

[glass silo]

Bring back solos duos to normal dungeon sdf, u r makin free to play ppl quit

[nova heron]

ya this guys has no life and like to stick needles in his D for fun.

[tidal blaze]

Okay so... im still winning.. and you gave up

[stray narwhal]

🤓☝️

[spare forge]

is mystic gem weapon chest bugged?

[river sequoia]

me and alot of others would never play at that rate, nobody is going to que five mins a game itll die very fast, and the lobbies were dead and most in this game wanna just pvp, my whole point anyways was that common rarity lobbies were not good, whats the point in playing if theres no loot in the lobby and only pvp, there is no point, wanna learn class theres pve mode

[tidal blaze]

Brother reaction with emoji he is BROKEN

[stray narwhal]

Everyone complaining about not being able to play solo squire gear lobbies is just mad because they can’t kill new players over and over again to make themselves feel good, W update ironmace.

Force the timmy stompers into HR so they get stomped on by actual decent players.

SDF cooked 🔥

[tidal blaze]

I think he... buuurned the game. But hell you will eat slop obviously

[glass silo]

Bruh for new players that is the learnin ground for pvp, it serves as a pvp ground as the loot and gear is ass

[desert lark]

I feel like it’s the opposite. You’re just happy that all the newer people are pushed into your game so you can kill him.

[tidal blaze]

He did mention he doesnt care if the game dies. Obviously the most reliable man we can have in the community

Man fucking gave up trying to argue his point its OVER For him

[river sequoia]

thats my entire point, take that logic in game and see how it works, first of half of players are not new and really good, second most squire classes like rogue and others hit for like 5 damage

most squire class unplayable only barb

[stray narwhal]

I queue trios for geared team fights, no timmy stomping there

squire gear timmy stompers are FUMING with this update😂😂😂😂😂

[tidal blaze]

🤓 ☝️

[elfin fern]

you learn so little from pve only though, in white lobby i could practice against people of similar skill or gear level. that is gone now
along with all the constant requeueing with randos
along with all the occasional 1v1s from aggressive weirdos while i was chest/wendigo hunting
all that shit gone gone gone

[glass silo]

So u not gonna think about new players? Then the game will die eventually gluck

[split niche]

I agree, in a way. Taking solo queue away from casuals and forcing them into high rollers is not a good take, especially people who don't like to queue with others. I do not like timmies at all, the tryhards who dog on new players, or returning players are mad cringe but it gives most people motivation to keep pushin and get better.

[tidal blaze]

okay im go eat food. Yall have a good one. IM OOOOUT

[nova heron]

bro you are copeing so hard what you mean . timmy are now going to get geared dif. you dont care about the new players

[stray narwhal]

But how many people have you seen in squire lobbies who are like lvl 200 on one class, you think a new player is happy when they are lvl 13 on rogue dying to a lvl 200 barb who COULD play high roller but instead they’re being cringe and playing squire only to take advantage of new players

[river sequoia]

so because most classes arent playable at squire level, in turn you ask me so you dont think about new players. think about how insanely delusional, strawmanned, and nothing to do with what i had to say. im done talking on here some of you litteraly are drooler knuckle dragger trolls

[desert lark]

Lvl 36 and ur telling me to go to hr when I wanna have some fun with my duo

[glass silo]

Just say u have never play common lobby bro.

[elfin fern]

i was literally in white lobbies to try to kill timmy stompers and not have to worry about gear diff or risk or spending time on marketplace or whatever

[split niche]

That was me the other night, lvl 200 fighter rushing me and i havent played in months but I just gotta keep it pushing, now im in adventure mode trying to re learn the game and do quest to semi catch up. Still, people shouldn't be shi but you cant stop these effing losers lol

[river sequoia]

low level troll, 0 arguement lol nobodys falling for that, if you are even interested, re-read what i said and your responses to it with a fresh look, it will blow your mind. blocked waste of time

[stray narwhal]

Real, and they’re everywhere, atleast it’s good them people are forced to go HR if they wanna stomp in solos. Atleast if you’re a new player and you queue trios, you have a team to help you. U won’t just take a straight 1v1 to a lvl 200 barb

[split niche]

How you going to tell someone to get off because their attitude is shi, then procceed to talk to a random like that LOL your mental is insane, who even said I rat? I haven't played the game in over 8 months and its changed a lot. I got tired of getting my ah whooped for the past 3 days so i went to adventure mode. I dont have all day to sit and goon and play games. Im a grown man with kids homie touch someone other than yourself

[stray narwhal]

Don’t play loot extractors if you don’t want to risk losing loot…. that’s the whole point of the game is to gain and lose loot

[desert lark]

Don’t wanan play trios tho

[lyric lark]

anyone think goblin merchant will come back to hr

[split niche]

I'm just gonna block you, I can't say what I want to you and you're annoying. End of story, im better than you at everything in life.

[stray narwhal]

Play high roller then, simple fix

[desert lark]

Don’t wanna play hr im lvl 36

[stray narwhal]

Play PVE then

[desert lark]

I wanna just play how I did last night lmao 🤣

[warped raft]

love the new system, its mainly jsut team killing now lol W patch !!!

[nova heron]

this guys has some big brain problems

[tidal blaze]

Ive seen A LOT of team killing when I spectated actually

[opal furnace]

Same. These new changes are terrible

[warped raft]

yea and still nothing to do about it

[stray narwhal]

If the game doesn’t suit your needs, find a new one, instead you’ve been playing for an hour and a half, i’m sure you’ll manage

[opal furnace]

These devs hate the casual gamers. The common lobbies were perfect

[desert lark]

The game did suit my needs. Lmao that’s what I saw saying

[tidal blaze]

Well you see.. you been apart of the community for awhile... but since your gamemode is gone... get the hell out 🤓 AAA Logic

[elfin fern]

like i said to you earlier its trivially easy to get in hr solo, open some chests or kill some wendys, and go wicked net positive
and i wouldnt even have to risk that much
but white lobbies were just much better overall

[tidal blaze]

Honestly just dying earling and spectating the matches has been an experience. Watched some even bis'd solos get wrecked by trio

[nova heron]

ya they rather make the game for LHMN. who has no life

[stray narwhal]

BIS doesn’t exist in norms brother

[radiant notch]

am i gonna get shit on with okay rolled blue/green gear in HR?

[stray narwhal]

Losing a blue ring with true phys on it to team kill isn’t losing BIS😭

[devout pelican]

Man loves high rollers so much he’s still in here lol

[tidal blaze]

Bis blue gear for normals. I mean.. I guess with your logic... there should be no normals

[tidal blaze]

He has to spread the HOLY WORD OF HIGH ROLLA

[empty ivy]

Why did they do this exactly?

[stray narwhal]

Nah normals is cool, fun casual player for casual players, which still exists, but people still cry

[devout pelican]

😂😂😂

[placid aspen]

what changed about clubs after the update? last wipe they were cheap as hell

[tidal blaze]

"" ACTUALLY ITS REALLY FUN FOR THE CASUAL PLAYERS"" 🤓 ☝️

[elfin fern]

the queues were too small, so we had to kill the queues people actually liked to force them into other games or raging on discord blue trios or high roller

[nova heron]

ya this guy must be on something

[tidal blaze]

THE HOLY WOOORD OF LHMN. BRREAEEEAAACH BROTHER

[radiant notch]

pvp is literally the best part of this game now solo players have to play HR if they wanna get shit on by casters w 10k hours

[stray narwhal]

Akthually if you look at playerth played thith month you’ll thee it’s on average gone down about 0.7% over the last 13 minuthss 🤓☝️

[empty ivy]

This feels like back when we only had Ruins and everyone stomped new players in full plate and abusing double jump

[tidal blaze]

"Actually Im gonna bring up numbers to be smart" 🤓
Gets proven wrong
""HAHA LOOK AT HIS NERD""

[desert lark]

🤣🤣

[radiant notch]

https://tenor.com/view/nxs-cube-cornball-ball-corn-gif-2361257093465839159

imagine a cornball gif in your mind

[tidal blaze]

LHHHMN.... MY BARBARIAN BROTHER>>> BREEEEEAAACH AGAIN

[stray narwhal]

So you wanna kill new players in squire gear lobbies, but don’t wanna die to someone better than you in Hr, makes sense

[tidal blaze]

HE.... HAS SPOOOOOKEN

[radiant notch]

no i wanna kill good players in blue gear in normal lobbies so i can get their gear like bro ur so strange

[tidal blaze]

BROOOTHER LHMN SPEAK AGAAAAIN

[stray narwhal]

Shane you proved no one wrong, you still crying about solo squire all day 😜

[nova heron]

ya he needs help

[vast ravine]

idk man, should have made Frost mountian Duos, Goblin Solos, and Ruins Trios, and made the quest not map depedent. This is going to hurt the playerbase bad. I agree there were too many Qs, but I think splitting by map would have been better. I'm a big Duo player so unless I'm going into high roller (my friends don't play enough for constant HR) I have to suffer 2v3s non stop

[radiant notch]

this kid has to be eu bro

[stray narwhal]

“good players” and “blue lobbies” can’t be used in the same sentence

[tidal blaze]

Says the man who scream nerd emojis after he is proven wrong. Using numbers like a nerd himself. BUCK BROKEN MAAAAAN TRIES BUT FAILS

[desert lark]

Duos but ok buddy

[tidal blaze]

God this has been hilarious day so far god bless it

[radiant notch]

there are good players who min max in blue lobbies even in gear score ppl wpuld minmax stats in 124

[stray narwhal]

You went on steam DB, compared two completely different stats and wrote a whole paragraph about it, you’re a nerd bro😂

[split solstice]

marvelous chest is bugged too

[tidal blaze]

Okay... then why are you saying let me quite you

LHMN. — 8:44 PM
Numbers speak for themselves, they bring out a good update, people want to try it

[radiant notch]

hes got the receipts bro

[stray narwhal]

No they’re not good, they’re looking to kill new players, they might be good in blue lobbies but there’s a reason they stay there…

[tidal blaze]

"Actually Im gonna bring up numbers to be smart" 🤓
Gets proven wrong
""HAHA LOOK AT HIS NERD""

[nova heron]

its people like LHMN that will kill the game, gate keeping, and says it better for new player when its the opposite.

[radiant notch]

buddy good gear beats skill every single time thats why they play blue lobbies so they can actually have skill expression

[stray narwhal]

Someone said the game was dead, I disagreed and said playerbase is doing well go check, simple logic becomes difficult for a discord mod like yourself

[nova heron]

80% gear 20% skill needed

[tidal blaze]

True, hell he even mention that he doesnt care if it dies

ILHMN. — 9:14 PM
I wouldn’t be mad if the game died no, the game isn’t my life i’d go do something else

He is the IDEAL community man dont you see... he doesnt care if the game dies

[radiant notch]

HR isnt filled with better players its filled with geared shitters

[stray narwhal]

If the game died tomorrow, I wouldn’t lose sleep, that’s CRAZY to me that you would care so much, discord mod ahh vibes

[tidal blaze]

Well you see... you kept saying that its the quote.

LHMN. — 9:24 PM
Highest player count today this month , i’m sure we will have a fun time

I prove you wrong you cried and call me a nerd

KEEP TAKING THE L PLEEEEEASE

[radiant notch]

wait this kid is so cold guys watch out

[stray narwhal]

You proved nobody wrong, you’re a discord mod who take things way to seriously😂

[tidal blaze]

Man I could care less. Im eating Pasta while I look at your clo wwn yourself

[radiant notch]

can we all just play arc raiders when it comes out

[nova heron]

i love this game but if they keep this patch for next season and no water maps; it will be over for this.

[tidal blaze]

Sure

[nova heron]

dud im waiting for arc raider

[radiant notch]

the playtest was soo gooodd

[tidal blaze]

I didnt play the playtest at all. Miss that shit

[stray narwhal]

Changing fonts of your text, writing in paragraphs, checking precise numbers from weeks ago and @‘ing me multiple times to finally get a response to self proclaim a “win” over me saying W update means you don’t care? Alright bud keep up the discord mod energy😂

[nova heron]

Bro there is also this game called hunger. Its the next best thing thats like DaD

[tidal blaze]

I mean... brother you make it SOOO easy to give you L.

[stray narwhal]

😜

[tidal blaze]

[nova heron]

people like you will be reason this game dies

[stray narwhal]

Moderate the chat pls

[tidal blaze]

Unrionically this has been fun. God blesssss you sir. Have a good night and or day

[stray narwhal]

God forbid someone likes an update the game had 🙏🙏

[radiant notch]

hunger is gonna be soo good

[desert lark]

Why u crying

[elfin fern]

bard would spawn with rapier with no shield, no hat, no potions, i think we didnt even get shoes

[stray narwhal]

W update W SDF

[radiant notch]

ts was actually funny

[tidal blaze]

Ahem.... || he is broken||

[nova heron]

ya hope this becomes a wake up cal for iron mace

[tidal blaze]

Imma get most pasta

[radiant notch]

i mean its not rlly the same game

[stray narwhal]

Same person who DM’d me with racism but acts normal in general

[desert lark]

I’m black idk man

[split solstice]

MARVELOUS CHEST IS FUCKING BUGGGEEDDDD

[rustic socket]

I miss when this game was fun to play. Now its only fun to watch other people play instead of dealing with all the bull shite these devs throw out every patch. RIP DnD

[desert lark]

❤️

[stray narwhal]

Why bring race into this? I said I like the update so you were racist in DMs to me? Then you act normal in general😂

[desert lark]

I was normal before I even dm u

[stray narwhal]

My point exactly..

Normal in general, racist in DMs… that’s exactly what I said

[desert lark]

It’s cause I don’t like you to be honest

[stray narwhal]

So that’s why you were racist?

[tidal blaze]

You guys like racing cars also?

[eternal pawn]

are those skeleton thingys that drop gems/accesory when destroyed on the interactive map? if so under which name

[stray narwhal]

What a normal standpoint to have, don’t like someone? Be racist!

[desert lark]

I can say the N-word

[stray narwhal]

Alright w/e

[desert lark]

Say it all every day call my boys it’s just part of the speech

[radiant notch]

why are DaD players so fucking corny bro i jusr started playing

[desert lark]

Doesn’t mean anything bad that’s how I address people sometimes what’s up my

[tidal blaze]

Corny how

[stray narwhal]

The backtracking is crazy style

[keen hatch]

yeah bru gg game is deadass ruined this patch

[nova heron]

ya just play another game

[keen hatch]

no more solos, or duos under high roller, its either im playing with cobalt stacked gear to have a chance in blues and i can only play trios or i play solos in hr and am getting brutaly fucked by unique barbarians stacking ms and hp

[desert lark]

K

[north knoll]

yes and you get 2 teamates with common gear....i am -20k gold since the update cause im the only one with gear in my team

[dusky gyro]

you realize there is a LFG channel in this very discord?

[north knoll]

no i didnt realize cause the last 600 hours i play this game i play SOLO but now i cant

[thorny pier]

SDF is cheeks

[dusky gyro]

maybe try being a little less anti-social

[radiant notch]

you realize its not the sociability that drives solo players right

[barren ingot]

no one wants to play with some random shitter

[dusky gyro]

what is was? it was originally a trios ONLY game... i dont see your arguement

[barren ingot]

You realise that solo makes up like half the playerbase right?

[north knoll]

yeap this game is gonna be dead very soon

[dusky gyro]

find some friends the lfg channel is a great place to start

[rapid vapor]

i dont get this whole "it was originally a trios ONLY" thing. as if games cant change during development, especially during early access. like i guess we gotta remove goblin caves and frost mountain since they werent intended

[barren ingot]

what if we dont want to play with some random?

[vast coral]

despite everything, it look like overall, people are happy with that patch ! the player count is rising

[dusky gyro]

you just made IM's whole arguement, games can change, and he has decided the game doesnt have enough players to support the ammount of ques that were in the game

[small turtle]

Some people enjoy just playing alone. I also find it more relaxing. And HR solo kinda removes the "Relaxing" part they already prefer. Change didn't do much for me, I play high roller anyways. But taking away 90% of the player bases prefered way of playing is flat out foolish and a terrible mistake of the health of the game.

After just the first hour of ppl seeing what was done with the patch over 6000 people logged off on steam alone.

[dusky gyro]

then play HR solo?!? i dont see a valid arguement from you yet

[rapid vapor]

okay. but can the game support losing most of its solos and duos players

[barren ingot]

no no they just dont want to understand it. This game has been going downhill for the longest time and its quite clear they just ignore the community and do their own thing. Its killing the game and its so sad to see, DND used to be good

[edgy condor]

Just got killed by teammate for 2nd time in norms, thanks so much for removing solo queue! i really love being forced to play with the dregs of society!!!

[dusky gyro]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1011086062845706282

[lavish birch]

Probably why they added that outlaw garbage

[barren ingot]

You are the exact problem in this community. Simp till the game has 100 players than cry about it dying

[desert lark]

This

[barren ingot]

i dont even need to hear your response im out

[dusky gyro]

you are the exact problem with gamers in 2025... refuse to get better in any way and whine if anything gets changed in an early access game

[barren ingot]

Ive been here since day 1 buddy try again

[vast coral]

all i see here is yapper yapping with yapper 🙂

[barren ingot]

think he might need to cope abit harder

[desert lark]

Brother what your a gammer in2025 that makes no sense

[dusky gyro]

im not in here whining because i have to play HR now

[barren ingot]

HR is all i play and this update is terrible

[desert lark]

Na I’m still having fun on arena

[edgy condor]

arena is the only mode worth playing rn

[small turtle]

Oh I kinda thought there was a debate here and you just misunderstood the point but naw ur just ignorant xD got it.

HR is all I play. But any update that literally goes against 80% of ur player base and makes 6000 people log off in an hour is the wrong call. Period.

I play with a group of friends, but very much enjoy my "relaxed" solo time.

[desert lark]

See I love you you are a hr player with a mind

[barren ingot]

you cant tell him Lolsteel. Hes beyond helping

[desert lark]

Oops wrong reply I ment this guy

[edgy condor]

+Fr fr

[desert lark]

😍

[vast coral]

yeah that's why the player count is rising xD what a joke reading yall here

[barren ingot]

Yumbos entire argument is basically "get good bro"

[edgy condor]

Its perplexing that they are this far into game development and still obliterating their game every other patch.. idk man

[median raptor]

Anyone else glitched into solo norm lobbies?

[small turtle]

Well its just a dumb choice. It makes the already low player base lower and player interaction even less. Almost every HR game I've been in instead of almost every sighting being a fight its now almost always a run away. Because these ppl don't want to be in high roller.

They want to play solo and relax. They don't wanna fuck with me wearing a 6000 gold kit that literally does enough damage with a fireball to 1 shot a squire kit. It's not fun to play against.

The fact 6000 players logged off on steam alone in 1 HOUR after the patch is all there needs to be said.

[urban haven]

its not lol its the weekend and still less than normal

[edgy condor]

Player count always jumps for weekend arena, and its less than usual even with arena...

[desert lark]

I love you

[slender needle]

wheres the sdf kitchen blog

[small turtle]

Well no look at steam charts. It actually around where it normally is. A bit low for weekends. After a patch, on average you should see a ~30% increase(give or take) for a week(especially when it lands on a weekend). That's the "normal". And this is hours after the patch and we're looking at around ~2% less right now.(On steam again, only play I can track exact data)

Almost all of the players that came back for patch logged off in an hour. Literally 6000+ of them just on steam.

[urban haven]

they will reverse it but still kinda ruined this weekend at least

[small turtle]

I think it's very likely they will soon. This has actually happened. . . alot. During the development of Dark and Darker. Buttt this time a large majority aren't old players that played when it was only trios/ect. it's a lot of new players and returning players that play strictly because of solo/duo. This has never been recieved well. Idk why they thought it would this time xD.

[last egret]

great. they remove the queues but did in the dumbest way possible

now solo players cant really play normals

[small turtle]

What region are you if u don't mind? I see people mention ques a lot but I've never had 1 past 6seconds on NA Central. I've actually had my longest que ever post patch.

[last egret]

oce

oce server are dead and now i have to fight trios on normals

[small turtle]

Gotcha. Maybe that's where the others having it from are. I'll have to look into regions more.

I haven't had a post 6 sec que in months before today on NA central.

Shame they lock y'all out from servers in dif regions. I mean, I get it but it should maybe be ping based or something.

[deep geode]

my game crashed, can i still recover my items?

[barren ingot]

OCE has been dead for 2 seasons mate. And its getting worse and worse as time goes on

[last egret]

dont want to be force to play hr just to play solos queue times for solo fill are like 3+ minuts

[last egret]

oce isnt dead there were just too many queues. we just need solo duo trio. normals and hr

its honestly a jokew

[small turtle]

I'd like to see how unlocking regions with a ping cap works out for stuff like that. Both lower pop servers and que times in general.

[last egret]

now they have shafted solo players again

[light oasis]

You know what my favorite part about consolidation is, all the Chinese teamers end up in one server! It’s so cool!

And it’s west coast! Without a VPN I’m forced to play with these gold farming cheaters lol.

[wet kindle]

apollo the biggest cryer to ever exist

[last egret]

the new csgo overwatch thing is cool but they are overcomplicating the queue system.

[elfin fern]

the what now

[idle dune]

game keeps crashing after the connecting screen shows up after launching the game

[frigid sleet]

Really loving getting matched up with 2 random monkeys

[last egret]

its a cheater spectator thing when player judge suspecter players on weather they are hacking or not

didnt do shit for cs tho

[north knoll]

thats it guys i cant play anymore, im unistalling till they bring back solos

[last egret]

^^^

the game when it first came out was okay for solos but the ttk is too high for them to remove solo queue

[small turtle]

Everything besides remove the solo/duo ques i think was great in the patch.

The que removal was just such a massive negative it's kinda gloomed over everything else.

[last egret]

yeah

[north knoll]

yeah, i played normals all my teamates are with common stuff, i played hr all rogues are outside boss room

[last egret]

oce ice caves are 90% rogues and 10% trios rn

[small turtle]

Can also sorc troll on Ice caves if you don't wanna deal with trios xD. Sorcs have endless unreachable area in that map.

[toxic socket]

is warlock even worth playing rn?

[small turtle]

It's actually one of my more favored classes to play. . But admittedly, Barb and Druid are so powerful rn they kinda out shine most

[last egret]

the game aint worth playing rn XD

[toxic socket]

well like i have been playing WL for a bit level 50 and i cant win fights its not fun and i get clapped, lit with full bis kits,

[brisk mason]

There is less queues now? What you just described has more queues than what we have rn lmao

[toxic socket]

and im not that shit at the game i swear

[pine tundra]

this

[last egret]

my main pain is there is no solo queues rn and its crap

[urban haven]

yea i quit lol random no mic trios or toxic hr. Ill check back in a few days when they fix this

[small turtle]

I've been doin a weird Longsword set up on it. Idk if i'd advise it or if its "good" but has worked for me. Play like STR/Vit w/ True Magic/Magical Healing/Action speed sub attributes.

[last egret]

in normals i mean.

[small turtle]

I straight up throw dots and go into melee.

I think my favorite(for fun; especially bc of barbs) has been a "PDR, Battle Cleric" build. I run Judgment to catch/slow instead of smite tho

[last egret]

it would be more then now yes. but still less then before. the game was at its best when it was only normals and hr just saying. and the solo duo trio for

[toxic socket]

yeah i think imm a try barb

[small turtle]

It and druid are screwed rn imo. Especially in lower gear settings. You just win xD.

I honestly feel like im being unfair half the time on it.

[brisk mason]

Pve mode has nothing to do with the queues lol. No pve mode grinder was ever rlly doing hr. And norms gets hella ppl alr. And arena is only open half the week

[toxic socket]

if i have bardiche in one slot should i have a shield or another weapon

[last egret]

what point are you making?

[brisk mason]

That there was no difference between when there was just norms and hr and now when there is pve mode and arena lmao

[cunning summit]

alright experiment over, hr trash now

[last egret]

there is a huge difference in oce

[brisk mason]

That is not cause of the mode changes… its cause the game has less players lmfao.

What hr players are grinding pve mode now other than gold farmers that don’t rlly matter to hr games.

Arena maybe but oce arena is kinda dead also

[last egret]

yeah your right. i think my main point was why remove solo queue.

[shrewd kernel]

solo queue gone peace lol they find new and better ways to ruin the game when they finally get goin the right way

[brisk mason]

Yeah don’t think it was necessary to remove in norms cause norms queues don’t have to do with hr queue pop much

[dry hedge]

ik its a 'trio' game but dont more ppl play solos and duos than trios

[tidal blaze]

Even more so considering the fact the free to play aspect

[opaque solstice]

Why don't they leave it as it was before when it was fine?

[shrewd kernel]

how ya go from solo duo and trio across 5 different playmodes to only putting it in hr and removing it from the normal game

[tidal blaze]

Change of vision or well returning to the old alpha days vision

[dry hedge]

honestly tho who only plays trio

[tidal blaze]

I do when I got 2 buddies to play the game with... which is not that common

[shrewd kernel]

@glad thunder tf were yall thinkin on this one?? do a rollback already lol read the comments

[cunning summit]

streamers, thats about it

[potent canopy]

SDFs kitchen - W update 👏 👏 1000% the right direction @glad thunder

[opaque solstice]

This game has become a piece of crap, it's incredible.

They ruined my weekend

[rough badge]

bring back solos

[potent canopy]

Do high roller solo?

[tidal blaze]

What if they dont want to

[potent canopy]

Do pve mode

[tidal blaze]

What if they dont want that

[nova heron]

ya you might as well do HR there is no dif

[dry hedge]

high roller cap is way to high youll just get out geared if you dont have a lot of gold to spend. Pve mode is so boring im not playing something to where I cant fight another player

[nova heron]

no dif both is a gear check

[potent canopy]

Do normal trios and play smart then?

[north knoll]

nightmare mobs, 100 gold ante etc etc

[elfin fern]

there is an incredible difference, what. i'm not saying juicers were hunting me down on the reg but it wasnt the only thing that made hr solos a pain in the ass

[dry hedge]

yeah ill 1v3 in normal trios

[nova heron]

the mobs are not that hard

[north knoll]

yeah but there is a difference

[nova heron]

and the 100 gold is what ever

[potent canopy]

You don’t have to fight all the time, just find an exit and get ready to run? As I said you should just do HR solo, that is the intended difficulty of the game

[dry hedge]

the intended difficulty of the game is not to go in squire gear into a hr lobby

[tidal blaze]

I do it a lot 🙂

[opaque solstice]

Amiga it makes no sense to play only as a rat

[potent canopy]

You extract once that is 1000g which is 10 entries; you will never lose money unless you need a lot of practise

[dry hedge]

pve is dumb asf

[nova night]

Hello

[dry hedge]

youre trying to act like this change is a good change its horrible

[potent canopy]

It’s an incredible change

[tidal blaze]

But why is solo duos still in HR

[eternal pawn]

if i die to zone, do i get my shit back?

[elfin fern]

we're talking around the point, which is that a more relaxed and even game mode is replaced by a lucrative but very annoying one

[opaque solstice]

1 v 3 2 v 3

[elfin fern]

no one who's played this game for a long time wants to grind pve dungeons, they dont want to be forced into trios, they dont want to be forced into hr. white lobby was the goldilocks zone

[dry hedge]

Okay but you arent realizing the problem. The only queue is hr solos so everyone that plays solo is going in there which is going to be a lot of very geared ppl youre just gonna get dogged

[slender needle]

hey guys where is this sdf kitchen channel ppl are talking about? i would like to see the blog

[ocean talon]

Hi guys, how can I contact support? I'm having issues with the migration from Epic Games :c

[potent canopy]

It’s a hardcore fantasy extraction game, they implemented PvE to practise. But otherwise if you want to do solos, do High roller solo. It’s available and it’s not hard after practise. You loot 6 chests and you will be nearly as geared as someone else going in with. Gear

[elfin fern]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1375433683737116713

[dry hedge]

youll see when the wipe happens

[tidal blaze]

I know they have a ... thing about that in their website.. however you can go to discord-help tab

[ocean talon]

ty bro

[dry hedge]

bro youre not gonna be as geared as someone with +1 all attribute gear and maxed out gear gl with that

[elfin fern]

my brother in christ i have two demigods and could have had more if i really wanted to, but i hate hr

[north knoll]

hr is full of rats rn

[tidal blaze]

But they said intent was for trios only. But why is HR still solo duos though

[rapid vapor]

That just isn't true. There's a huge difference between a legendary with all dead rolls and a legendary with bis rolls

[dry hedge]

milk do you normally play solo ?

[opaque solstice]

Besides that, there are now white people in HR.

[potent canopy]

Because HR is where 90% of people play because once you overcome normal lobbies there’s not much left

[tidal blaze]

I overcame normals... but I still played normal solo... so what about me

[potent canopy]

I’m always solo

[swift cargo]

Do you lose non SSF gear in Arena right now?

[north knoll]

normals solo was very fun and chill, i dont even want to play anymore

[dry hedge]

theres no way you think its a good change maybe because you have some gold rn but if you lose a lot of ur gold gl

[potent canopy]

It’s fine because I can go into a HR solo as a squire and kill people with gear?

[dry hedge]

Lmfao

[elfin fern]

post clip

[north knoll]

ohhhhh i see, you are the rat i talked about earlier

[potent canopy]

I can loot 6 chests in HR and be stacked?

[dry hedge]

good one lol

[tidal blaze]

Context... would be wise

[opaque solstice]

He who says it's a good change was abused by his uncle

[elfin fern]

dude i main bard i know how easy hr money is. that isn't the point

[north knoll]

bro, we arent rats like you, so its not a good change for us

[potent canopy]

The game had 320 queues with like 15k players

[dry hedge]

especially if youre playing duo maybe you can kill someone under geared solo but two ppl you have no chance

[paper mulch]

3v1 was fun today

[elfin fern]

and they picked the worst solution to that which was to bring about THE VISION by forcing everyone into their shitty sweaty battle royale with turbo mobs and juicers

[north knoll]

what if you are a new player? you gonna get rekt 1v3 or you gonna be a problem to your team

[tidal blaze]

I tend to see people suggest... go to pve.. but I argue what if they dont want that

[dry hedge]

The 100 gold cost is also stupid at least gear score limit made you have some shit on to be down there you shouldnt be able to go down there in squire kit

[potent canopy]

The thing is your complaints have no basis because you have the tools to learn the game Via PVE and the bar to enter HR to play solos is so low.

I suspect the people complaining are the ones that kitted BiS blues and whaled on squire geared people in blue lobbies and are now upset that is gone?

[tidal blaze]

But a new steam player who is free to play cant access HR solos without paying $30

[opaque solstice]

Most of my friends have already stopped playing. I can't imagine the other people who go through the same thing. This is how the players decline.

[dry hedge]

pve is such a bad addition too. Getting free gear thru squire wasnt enough ??

[potent canopy]

Perhaps time to play another game? The initial vision of this game is a hardcore extraction PvPvE

[tidal blaze]

Why is that always the suggestion "Go play another game"

[north knoll]

yes i just uninstalled bro till they bring solos back.

[elfin fern]

my complaints absolutely have a basis, you do not learn anything about pvp from pve,

the only low tier practice is pve mode, which doesnt prepare you for serious gear,

and the serious gear mode scales way above that.

that's disregarding that all of us complaining just don't have fun in hr, and y'all assume it's because we don't know how to play. we do, we just don't find hr fun

[dry hedge]

theyre just gonna revert it anyway

[tidal blaze]

It is in my eyes a toxic mindest for new players who were playing solos just a few days ago

[potent canopy]

You can always play trios and fill the party?

[tidal blaze]

But what if someone doesnt want that

[dry hedge]

do you know how bad a trio fill in a game like dark and darker is LMFAO

[potent canopy]

You can’t cater to everyone

[rancid umbra]

fill with randos who like to tk and run off on their own Mmmm

[tidal blaze]

you know what did cater to everyone? Having a solo and duos

[rapid vapor]

People get pretty salty when you show up in trios with squire gear and just farm gear

[nova heron]

exactly this is what it is

[elfin fern]

ok, so don't cater to us, just don't shit in our cornflakes

[dry hedge]

why wouldnt they cater to the majority of the player base ??

[ripe cliff]

quick uninstall no solos later @glad thunder

[opaque solstice]

The problem with HR is that in my case I can barely get equipment, but once you lose, the farming cycle repeats itself and people with unique things come in, and most of the time it's impossible to stand up to them, no matter how skilled you are or how lucky you are.

[tidal blaze]

Now those who enjoyed the solo and duos experience at normals are expected to go to HR or "get good" or go to pve or leave

[opaque solstice]

You're basically kicking players out.

[covert gyro]

how do i make a voice channel for trios

[potent canopy]

You can always play arena to practise

[tidal blaze]

I dont think you can doubt it will drive people away. Even more so having someone in the discord telling them to leave its not your type of game

[elfin fern]

maybe? i could rat plenty with bard, just stack ms and maxhp and flute chests. people will still have to sweat to try to kill you and there are plenty of reds to expressman out. if you're really pressed you can jump in the void on level 2 so they get nothing from you

[dry hedge]

its practice and no one is playing arena without a kit they found thats somewhat decent

[north knoll]

normals are the new arena bro,

[elfin fern]

it's trios only combat, and you have to be bissed out

[tidal blaze]

It really is. I dont think the mindset of "get good" or leave is helping anyone. If not hurting the community

[potent canopy]

You can buy an arena kit?

[elfin fern]

dude i don't gear for pvp i wouldn't even know what to buy and i'm not interested

[potent canopy]

????? Why are you complaining then, you have PvE mode

[elfin fern]

because i feel comfortable with low level pvp, and i dont feel comfortable with no pvp. it's a goldilocks thing

[potent canopy]

There’s literally three of you complaining at me right now, you guys should squad up in trios normal

[tidal blaze]

So if they dont want to fight a trio... cant go into HR because lets say... they dont have legdenary status.. and dont want to PVE... should they just leave then?

[elfin fern]

threes is guaranteed negative bank, no thank you

[toxic socket]

this game is actually so bad right now, like everyclass sucks, is boring, or is broken, sdf is experimenting with gear brackets as if hes an Aut1st, got rid of solos and duos, like is he mental? this game is so bad got me wanting to play geometry dash

[north knoll]

no i want to play SOLO NORMAL NOT HR NOT TRIOS, NORMAL , SOLO

[potent canopy]

If they don’t have legendary status, you’re playing a trial of a full game and should probably invest in the full game or just take it as it is

[tidal blaze]

Why would they invest in a game that wont let them play how they were playing just a few days ago

[toxic socket]

SDF IS AN AUT1ST

[azure bronze]

How much times left in the season?

[potent canopy]

Are you selling gold? I don’t understand your angle, just farming gold and doing nothing with it is a little sus

[tidal blaze]

I think until July? I could be mistaken

[azure bronze]

When in July

[elfin fern]

i just like number go up man it helps me deal with my pointless and mediocre existence

[tidal blaze]

So milkman...? Why would they invest? How do you keep that market of people staying

[potent canopy]

Sorry to hear bro

[ripe cliff]

let me tell you how fun it was to get stomped by some raging racist three man with 2 other randoms that just ran away!

[tidal blaze]

Sorry was looking it up.. and im going based off of the season 6 pack.. july 10th.. Im not entirely sure this is a guess

[azure bronze]

Interesting thanks

[nova heron]

have they announced the quest rewards?

[timber imp]

MEOW

[tidal blaze]

In my eyes... these people who remain in this area... will just leave. Of course there is going to be some who stay and so forth. But I dont think it can not be denied the affect

[west torrent]

dude why have they changed party pools??? like this is just telling solo and duos to basically et lost from the game.. what are theyy doingg'

[potent canopy]

That is going to happen, I don’t think it’s a bad thing because you can’t cater to everyone’s needs and have a functional product when there’s only 15k active players.

It’s unfortunate, but IM have introduced tools to make it a lot easier to learn and become comfortable with the game than when it was initially released.

So in that aspect; it’s more accessible than ever. Yes it could be improved to cater to solo audiences; but 320 queues is far too many in its current state.

This current change is very good for the health of the game. I’m from OCE and our games would have max 3 people in solos and possibly 1 other trio, now the game is playable and I’m sure that’s for all regions except some popular ones in USA

[surreal arch]

But they wrote the reason... long ques, not enough people for each map + each solo duo trio + 4 different rankings.

[west torrent]

still man

[surreal arch]

All of those should still work in HR, no?

[potent canopy]

I’m almost positive they will look into adding more solo content; but for now, there is HR solo. Whilst it’s not everything you want, the mode is still there. Otherwise, it’s pretty easy to farm gold near an extract or red in normal and escape if you get Jumpes by a team

[hollow mortar]

Still can't play alone in normal lobbies?

[surreal arch]

I would love to try the game but "Code 16" is not letting me play for past 2 days..
Before it was enough to reset pc or steam.. now nothing works 🤷‍♂️

[elfin fern]

i just uninstalled, cbf with this

[rapid sleet]

Hr and norms was poppin today, hr filled with geared teams , player counts are up, very good change

[rapid vapor]

I mean they could've started by removing all the map queues and going back to a rotating pool. The only problem that had was the quests which could be changed. They could also just remove normals entirely. Like why don't we just all go to HR why are we catering to people who want this weird blue gear limit

[potent canopy]

It’s okay, you would have uninstalled two weeks from now anyway

[frigid tundra]

why is there only trios chat?

[elfin fern]

what makes you say that

[trail flicker]

How do you add all Attritutes to an item? this patch is so gud i see teams all gd day now!

[rapid vapor]

They removed solos and duos normals

[tidal blaze]

I dont think it is a good choice and if anything I see it as not helpful. It will hinder numbers. At least to me in my eyes. Of course those dedicated will stay. That goes with any given game. Nor do I think the mindest of delete the game or get better is gonna help. It just seem toxic like mordhau mindset

[surreal arch]

Because MAJORITY of players do not play HR if you look at % quite sure... most people just want to enjoy the game no "sweat" in shrinking zones and such..

[rapid vapor]

Tough nuts. Go play HR.

[potent canopy]

Because you uninstalled, anyone that actually enjoys the game and is loyal to it would have stuck through, you’ve been through so many changes, why uninstall now because of one of many updates to come.

[tidal blaze]

There has been a LOOOT of people with that mindset of telling people to just delete the game. You say its good changes but telling people to delete the game? Well it drives folk away.

[west torrent]

ykw tho. i wont complain. im playing a game whos dev team actually get things done and introducew new things regularly. its 1 bad thing for 4 new good things. im happy

[trail flicker]

at least..in your...eyes? wtf nonsense are you talking IN YOUR EYES :PPPPP They should keep duos and trios only and also keep white to blue gear score, solo isnt what the game is made for and is not balancable but people copmlain as if it is anyways cuz they are mad. That might just be general toxic gamer culture

[rapid vapor]

Why? It's a game. There's literally thousands of games out there. If you make a game unfun why would anyone stick it out when they can just play something else

[elfin fern]

because this was my bread and butter, this is what i enjoyed most about the game. i quit previously when they gave lock burst damage and everyone was running on sighting or backstabbing naked locks in rando queue when all i was trying to do was learn wyvern

[abstract apex]

delete warlock/druid/sorc/bard from the game pls. the old vision calls for it

[frigid sleet]

playing with monkeys that get your kits taken from you.... fking awesome... now i cant even play the game by my self. Literally FORCED to play with people with the IQ of a rock... THANKS ALOT

[trail flicker]

skill classes saved the game actually

[surreal arch]

That is 10yo response.
You cannot delete most played system.
Also you need basic gear before going to HR or fight way stronger mobs in squire, a LOT of people either can't survive that even without pvp, or do not want to sweat around fighting skeleton 5times longer than on normal.. just think logically.

[barren osprey]

Brother the amount of times this game as been in a healthy place only for them to just 180 into some dumb shit, they are allergic to letting a good thing ride

[tidal blaze]

I mean.. in the past year there has been duos and solos. Of course I stopped playing season 1 due to life shit and comeback to season 6. But to me solo has aslways be there.
But I mean sure go tell the new people to leave the game if it makes you feel better that you are gonna keep good players.

except alpha... but that is ages back or however long

[potent canopy]

Bros got the integrity of a peanut shell, see you in the dungeon 🫡

[surreal arch]

Play few games of "norma" to get gear or money, go HR alone I guess that is their logic to keep game alive kinda.
Not sure if that help if you want to train bossing in normal and "going solo" is risky as you meet others in trios.

[fervent anvil]

Solos is ass. Games not designed for solos

[trail flicker]

I don tknow what you just said. Also I never said tell new people to leave, no clue what that means. You said nothing.

[rapid vapor]

And now you know how solos and duos feel. Like people can't play how they want to anymore and people are basically responding with "tough nuts, play our way."

[tidal blaze]

Then why have HR solos?

[surreal arch]

Whole goblin cave was only solo originally if I'm not mistaken.

[elfin fern]

i had fun in norms solos, i dont understand why people are so weird about this

[tidal blaze]

Alright I can tell you aint gonna be a person to talk to

[sage tangle]

gob merchant still gets ur stuff back in rares right?

[visual mango]

anybody know where i can loot leather caps for leather smith

[fervent anvil]

Cause they cant just cut off the leaderboard @surreal arch yeah and gc is ass @elfin fern ok druid main

[trail flicker]

HR is different, the mobs have actual impact, lots of clever ways to play. Also, I only say the most logical things and would eviscerate you verbally in any debate on this game. Just keep on complaining. The devs make money off of the game so of course everything they do is to get more players to the game right? Try thinking for one second. They are not trying to boot people of course that is insane

[surreal arch]

I'm not saying that it is not "bad" but you can't choke the game for year, bleed out people and still keep 15 different mods. It is the smallest damage control that could survive with game. I guess.
If you force everyone to HR, game is dead within week if even that.

[tidal blaze]

I mean they can. Nothing can stop them from doing it and making a temp forever leaderboard

[abstract apex]

nuh uh old vision calls for the removal of every new class

[subtle heart]

they might not be trying to lose people, but they be losing people

[elfin fern]

bard main, thanks. before you say it i don't abuse the class to draw on people who don't first attack me

[rapid vapor]

Then why don't we remove HR or make it actually fun. Seems weird to suck everything into "play this mode no one wants to play" besides they could've at least started by removing all the separate maps. That would have cut a ton of queues

[potent canopy]

😂😂😂 then you will be complaining about them remove content

[fervent anvil]

"Then why dont we remove half the game" sounds like you just dont like thd game :)

[tidal blaze]

What should they do then

[rapid vapor]

That isn't even what I said?

[median holly]

arrows should stack for 80 not 20, this would make up over the quiver they will never release

[potent canopy]

Literally just play the game and stop sooking 😂 I had some sympathy initially but deadset jusy seems like you would complain about any change, good or bad

[fervent anvil]

Keep on adding content for trios and fixing bugs.

[tidal blaze]

I mean khajiit guy, what should he do then. Leave the game?

[fervent anvil]

Yes. If he aint liking it then he should stop playing it :)

[potent canopy]

If the current state of the game doesn’t appeal to him, it doesn’t sound like the game for him

[tidal blaze]

So the population should dwiddle to the few who enjoy it?

Like mordhau?

[potent canopy]

Are you that self-centred you assume the game is designed for your personal desires?

[noble aurora]

damn i forgot about mordhau that shit is lowkey fun

[rapid vapor]

If you're talking about me then you should go through my history and you'll see I never complain. Besides I'm not playing the game. That's the point. I'm chilling in bed being annoyed at how I can't play the game I enjoyed a lot. Tomorrow I'll be grinding darktide because dark and darker is just not in a good place now

[fervent anvil]

Thats how all games go :) games are meant to be played for fun. And if your not having fun then why would you play them :)

[tidal blaze]

So someone who played Solo a few days ago should pay $30 to go to HR or PVE or leave...

[noble aurora]

lol

[potent canopy]

If you haven’t got legendary status I don’t think you should have any form of an opinion on the game

[fervent anvil]

Pay 30 to buy the game :) its not f2p. Its a demo :)

[wary birch]

Tough take

[elfin fern]

if the trial sucks, who is going to want to stay let alone pay money for it

[tidal blaze]

That is a horrible mindset that will drive new people away

[elfin fern]

convinced milk and bonk are just griefing at this point

[surreal arch]

Not sure how that would work now.
I like Crypts and 3 layer dungeons to delve in.
If I look at YT pvpers, all of them are in GC basically.
Ice cave for Quests mostly only from what I see when I talk with other players.
Right now if you change it, I'm not sure if I would rather watch a video on YT while waiting for my map anyway or just join anything 🤔
People might change oppinion, sure. Not sure if "reducing" content is better when everyone is crying about "give more content"

[potent canopy]

Bro just be grateful you have a free option?? Once again complaining because it’s not 100% in your favour

[trail flicker]

They really arent. Players are up the past 6 months.

[potent canopy]

Most games don’t let you play without paying

[rapid vapor]

f2p players are basically playing a demo. But the demo needs to be actually fun if you want them to buy in

[tidal blaze]

I can play war thunder for free without issue

[trail flicker]

what does this even mean

[fervent anvil]

Then go play it :)

[potent canopy]

That’s a personal opinion? I’m sure a tonne of ppl who enjoy the demo pay for the full game

[surreal arch]

demo = very limited game, either timed or content
F2P = full game on, just level up slower or lack skins.

[rapid vapor]

There's no good option where everyone will be happy. But a rotating queue is much better than telling a bunch of your players tough peanuts go play something else

[tidal blaze]

The mindset of you arent playing a game without paying is rather tone deaf because there is free games people can play.
People are boasting the numbers going up, but then spit in the faces of those who dont like it.
Telling them to piss off.

[potent canopy]

I suspect it’s your type of gamer that made call of duty, world of Warcraft etc go downhill

[fervent anvil]

Yes there are free games that people can go play. People also play games that are paid. And this game is a paid game :)

[trail flicker]

demo has access to everything though ya? what do they not get? I know they can do merchants and such now and trade

[potent canopy]

So as far as I’m aware; please stay as far away from dark and darker as possible 🙏

[fervent anvil]

Its norms locked

[trail flicker]

Demo entices, then epople buy it cuz its basically freee for the 'paid' version so who cares. HOW DO YOU SOCKET ALL ATTS into an item? 😄

[tidal blaze]

It is also a free game

@potent canopy I mean you are telling people who played duos and solos just a few days ago to piss off. If you cant see how that will drive away a community well... I cant help you

[potent canopy]

Devs conforming to normies who complain has been the downfall of the gaming industry since 2010

[trail flicker]

Oh. That's completely fine then. No qualms there. Qualms is a word i just made up just now though

[lapis flower]

is this game good yet?

[surreal arch]

I do not know "current state".
When I started F2P was:
Only low GS allowed (no HR)
No trade.
Only 1 character playable.
That was Demo version, not F2P.
I did play game still for 40h cause.. I'm patient but well.. it is still a demo show instead of "F2P" model with such detriments to not pay.

[fervent anvil]

The demo is free :) alot of demos are normally free 🙂

[lapis flower]

yeah a free waste of time LOL

[tidal blaze]

Frankly I'd say its a game enough that it isnt even a demo. Paying is just for more of a challenge and you can argue that its the "real game". When hell back in alpha it was just basically normals and trios ya. What can free people play? Normals

[potent canopy]

It sounds like you owe ironmace a legendary status @tidal blaze , you got your milk now you must pay

[trail flicker]

You are making that up. THey can still do solo duo in HR, just not in rare. THey can also chose to not fill. You making stuff up again kid 🙂 Also they want fuller trios dungeons so this is a nice experiement to see. They did this several times now and always revert back anyways. I honestly think they should just always have trios and then rotate solo and duos daily or something? Either way

[lapis flower]

this game sucks so much ass lol

[fervent anvil]

Then dont play :)

[lapis flower]

i dont play this trash game bro lol

[trail flicker]

How ironic i have seen you pop up in this chat to rage bait with a nonsensical claim. It's fun to join the group and bash the game! What kind of loser are you to get kicks from doing that? How many games do you do this with? It's bewildering. You're so full of sht you might even believe yourself 🙂

[tidal blaze]

I mean hell you can glaze everyone who disagree as a normie all you want. I have been around since alpha and pre season 1. Got me LEGENDARY SKELEEE I love this mother fucking game

[fervent anvil]

Ive seen you playing it :)

[wind chasm]

does anyone know how alive this game is in OCE currently cuz thinking about getting on

[potent canopy]

OCE is alive

[lapis flower]

winners don't play this game bro

[trail flicker]

He is literally a pathological liar. Dude hate sthe game but finds it fun to dog pile the game with other noobs. Says bad game but gets satisfaction in coming back to this chat randomly day to day to just bash the game. He's so owned right now probably feels so dumb now that he realizes it haha :))

[surreal arch]

There are people that are literally 10yo trolls that live out of that.. just block them and see "Ignoredmessage" pop up from time to time. It helps filtering people like that.

[lapis flower]

dude is actually simping for a game and thinks he's cool. that's hilarious

[trail flicker]

Winners? Win money playing any game professionally or become a surgeon then come talk to me about winning

[lapis flower]

what???? LMAO that's the dumbest comeback i've ever heard.

bro takes 5 minutes to type a reply and then drops actual trash

[potent canopy]

Gunther made goblin pregg and got banned from GC that’s why he is unhappy

[timber imp]

MEOW

[lapis flower]

oh i get it, your name is milkman because you were bottle fed right?

[fervent anvil]

No

[grand swallow]

No prego gobo no patch

[trail flicker]

That didnt make sense. Just another generally embarrassing insult affecting no one. You are desperate now. You are the one coming in here twice a day to quash your lonliness no? I'm sure in voice chat you are terrified of people like me lolll

[fervent anvil]

Is that meant to be an insult?

[lapis flower]

TL;DR

[trail flicker]

anyoen know how ot socket all atts btw -_-

[lapis flower]

google it bro

[fervent anvil]

Yeah you know you also are too scared to fo into voice chat. Everyone is. All atts is diamonds

[stiff talon]

the same as you socket anything else

[lapis flower]

LOLOLOL

[tidal blaze]

I think its just mad wild to be toxic to people who want to play normal solos and duos again. Kill the game all you want. Piss on the new folk or folk who just want a chill time.
Imma keep playing and hoping shit doesnt hit the fan. I mean god look the hell that broke out on the discord alone today. But dont BS the game is revived now

[main bison]

whats the best base item for warlock chest pieces?

[lapis flower]

VenJunse can't even spell vengeance, he's probably having his mom change his diaper rn

[trail flicker]

I'm in a voice chat so taht is made up

[stiff talon]

you probably tried to socket it on something it doesnt roll on, it only can be socketed on chest/legs and amulet

[lapis flower]

here comes a long ass paragraph he had chatgpt write him that makes no sense

[timber imp]

Dog person?

[lucid dove]

is this game good yet?

[lapis flower]

it feels good 2 be king FR

[fervent anvil]

No chest piece. Armour is for the weak. @trail flicker i aint see it. @timber imp no

[lapis flower]

nope.

[abstract apex]

SDF is returning the game to playtest 1 lets go

[trail flicker]

OH good call man thank you. That is correct xD

[lucid dove]

darn.

[trail flicker]

It's the same game as always. So yes its still good. Of course plenty of losers trying to bash it for no reason

[grand swallow]

Prego gobo

[wanton otter]

why tf is there a leaver penalty for arena for leaving after the game ends????

[lapis flower]

imagine simping for this game for no reason

[fervent anvil]

Cause its not only one round :)

[lapis flower]

ill brb, ive bullied enough

[wanton otter]

XD it concluded I just went to menus, it's needlessly strict

[lucid dove]

@trail flicker i see what ur saying bro true, its the same state since release basically

[trail flicker]

The fact you think its 'vengeance' is hilarious. Also wrong and isnt pronounced that way. Take another L kid :). SOrry if that pic is the real you. Randomly saying the diaper thing wouldnt get under anyones skin btw it just shows how desperately mad you are 🙂 haha