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keep crying lil pup
Yeah, true dsmage is a stat that breaks the game for some classes
true damage is so cringe and should be 100% removed, every arena match is +8 true on most classes
they need to remove tru and just keep armor and magic pen
like how am i getting 5 shot by a rogue with 75% pdr and 148 hp
Maybe they need to buff armor pen
Oh yeah that sounds like a fighter, It's happened to me a lot
didnt they say they wanted a 1-3 second TTK?
a wise man once said that squire pvp is the most balanced pvp in the game
meanwhile we have legendary max gear in arena... if you dont run true with a fast weapon, gg
they need to rework armor/magic pen
NERF THE FK'N BARBARIAN...
in its current state it nearly does nothing stacking it. even against a PDR class
Heya @glad thunder @zinc sparrow - Druid forms are getting a little boring...can we get a gecko or bat class? What about a caterpillar, so cute 🙂
100%. thats why 0-24 was the most played mode... and the most fun. actually took skill and not just stat checking ppl.
i mean we got <24 gs right now with the common gear limit, but its kinda dead
Armadillo: has an ability where he curls up into a ball and reflects all melee attacks of course can heal while curled up so whenever in doubt become a ball and get back to full health.
yea rip
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if rat form was replaced by armadillo, druid would stay exactly the same
it would actually become weaker because you can throw a molly on it
Exactly! 😄
#JUSTICE4DONG
Anything extra forms for druid would be fun. Appreciate you guys for hearing our input
Thanks man
#JUSTICE4DONG
If I was re-making druid I'd want the forms to be extreme. Like bear would be way bigger and do a lot more damage but basically be unable to move.
with the gem socketing and the higher gem drop rates, i think now you can remove trading 🙏
steal more from wow, give druids a tree form that does +healing -move speed
drop rate on gems is crazy lol i have an entire page gems
@merry urchinThanks to you too, brother. I'm going to rest now, and you should get some rest early too
You get a couple of royal gems in an HR run
yeah ok but just shouting "bro gtfo" isn't helping you understand that right?
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i only hear sound to the left and right of me , if someone is behind me i cant hear anything , how do i fix?
anyone who uses the 🫵 emoji deserves my respect
non existing/not working anti cheat change my mind
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Could anyone help me? My game wont even open and I cant even play DaD when I open through blacksmith it just crashes my pc any help?
wait wait it isnt working
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Lol
Gotta find those DnD logs and see what they say 🙂
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anyone with babykata deserves my respect.
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I know a man lf culture when i see one
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cheater sensor on max
does potion of clarity work if ur walking around (not resting)
Does deathbloom scale with anything
the hitting hit through shield shit not fixed still just shows how lazy and lack luster these devs are.
pretty sure i've heard a "bang" from my lantern shield hitting an ls and then getting headshotted from the same attack. crazy shit
Anyone got problems with fps drop rate after this new bug fix?
Is there any way to fix only having empty lobbys? Ive played 5 artifact lobby games now of ruins ran the full timer in ruins/crypts/inferno and i dont see a single player? like are nordic eu servers just this dead????? im so fucking bored bro
this game isnt meant to have balanced fights in terms of items though. It's already impossible to balance all these classes vs each other and even moreso amongst 1v1 2v2 3v3,
its a nonstop bloodbath in common gear, atleast ruins is
I've had zero dead lobbies since my return and at all hours of the day. YOu're making it up i guess
Iguess it depends on where you live since we are server locked lol i cant find people in hr at all. only in common gear
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Woof, hope we get more critter characters and a belly rub emote!
first good take of the day
yuss :3 too explain better maybe it could work like how emotes work in TF2 and are interactive
looking for warlord quest carry
just learn it. its easy
dude
what is warlord quest
Can we make arena self-found only or you lose your gear again? So it's actually fun and not just who can buy the best gear.. gave a purpose to finding things and playing other characters and properly looting to build up a good/fun kit.
I dont understand the people in common lobies who just interrupts my boss run like you are a coward man for two rounds a fighter comes and he used all of his bolts and missed every single one dude just let me do the boss and then lets fight what are you doing this for,you are not gonna gain anything from killing me its a common lobby you dont know how to do the boss so you are not going to get loot you are just going to waste your time for nothing in return this is like the worst griefing ever.Just wait for me to kill or be a man and get in and fight while doing the boss
sorry to say, the people that benefit most in this game are the biggest opportunists. boss camping should come with significant risk and disadvantage, not the other way around
no because people want to play arena
Majority of people want self-found back. It's an out of touch change to the game. The only people that benefit are those that are playing the game a lot anyway and can afford to drop 60-70k on pure best rolled sets, or those that get gold through other means.
he gains nothing in return? its a common lobby so everybody have grey or white gear the boss is not dead so no free loot neither a gear loot from a player so literarly only thing that is going to happen is either I am going to kill the boss and he is going to fight with me this is the best possibilty or I am going to fight with him and he is going to either lose his life or heals and time so in case that he doesnt let me do the boss he is going to lose lose in every possibilty
no ones spending 60k on a kit gem socketing exists you troll
You really don't think anybody is spending 60k on a kit to do comp arenas?
kill warlord
60 k just the rings lol
Any1 wanna go on a iron ore run w me?
streamers but that gear gap is so small it doesnt matter
and idk what majority your talking about your just out of touch no one wants ssf
All I'm saying is making all arena gear able to be bought off the marketplace with 0 risk invalidates things like gemming and properly finding your loot. Even the people among the top rankings who do stream so you can publicly see their opinions want SSF back. The vocal majority literally says the only cool thing about this change is being able to swap fully kitted out sets with your friends, lol.
ssf with new crafting system and more progress is the play
Why is barb so fkn fast for sk sake
yeti tooth is the new cock feather
im not aware of these top streamers ever saying that and yes it does invalidate having to loot thats a good thing
Best change would be to make arena gear back to SSF only, but not character specific. Make it account wide. That way people can't go on and drop $50 to buy a kit through means that are bannable but not enforced regularly. Literally common sense for a mode they're trying to make with ranked and proper competitive landscape.
You can act oblivious to what I'm referring to if you'd like but it happens regularly, have a good day. 🙂
whats the different between additional move speed and move speed bonus?
you answer yourrself
one is flat and one is a percent
1% move speed is more than +1 move speed
your just bad and broke arent you. ik your arena kit is trash
sounds the same
noo portal in hell boss roooom is the most stuypid shit ive seen
one gives move speed. and the other gives movespeed
BRUH
your chat history is so volatile
keep trying
just speaking for the health of the game, not the 1% that can afford to meta abuse, keep marketplace arena, continue to bleed the playerbase dry gg
your a joke and one of the players i farm. i would kill you the vendor all your gear
take me out to dinner first 😳
idk if you thought that was funny but it was really cringy
on the chance you might be an actual child, good day 🙏
don't need to be so negative brother, game discussion channel
Does anyone have any help for "Failed to connect to the server. Quit the game."
If i die by mobs in HR lobby, goblin don't take back my item ?
"taking your bis" "outplayed" corny setup you are not that guy buddy
how do u transfer epic acc to steam?
What the hell is tavern running in the background after I close the game it just runs in the background and never turns off?
Taverncomn_1_1 to be exact
kinda shady that even if you uninstall the game .. its still runs in the back ground,
someone on reddit said " i had 2 and even after i disabled one the other was hidden as a microsoft service"
That's crazy I
yea apparently you have to uninstall it seperatly.
What? Even crazier now I gotta look
type in " service host: Taverncomn_1_1 reddit " on google should pop up
dont have the brain to look through patch notes. was the halberd buffed?
How long has it been since wipe?
Anyone? Haven't played since December. How long into the new season is it?
anyone been getting glitches where your abilities go on cd but dont actually activate? I've had second wind make its activation sound and stuff but not actually give me the healing buff
is it only me or why is it says epic games code invalid. i got it months ago now i tried to use it hello?
gootta migrate it bgo to website and rtead about it
what
go to website, read there.
you hhave to use blacksmith launcher now, need toi migrate your game by getting a code
it says it expires after 10min
can you not get it again
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Can you obtain troll pelts in adventure?
yea
it will take some time
is there also a GS limit to the dungeons still? I am in all rare but cant queue up
Ive seen it be bugged. Switch map selection and brackets around and try again.
what's better on a bardiche, 12 physical power or 6 weapon damage?
If the weapon was exactly 60 damage before applying physical power they should be equal. If less, weapon damage is better. If more, physical power.
Yo wwhy am I pingponging like a m today wt is wrong with the servers
It gets messier when you take other perks into account so ill leave that out
where i can find lifeleaf and wardweed?
lifeleaf is in hell and wardeed in goblin cave
Thank you!
ty
you do
guys how to dodge the close charge attack of cave troll because they added an extra feature to the normal cave troll instead of adding it to the f nighmare one sdf is truly a once in a lifetime yk
you dont gotta reconfrim that ;-;
u mean roar charge if ur hit?
@forest valve I did it with a buddy for him took 7 days to get one killed over 60 yetis rng gods were not with us
what is the most balanced rn?
Thanks that's really good to know, i was comparing Unique Bardiche which are 66 Weapon Damage
no the close up charge
theres no such thing
where exactly can find wardweed
gobbcave
yeah which room
Send a clip of it
idk many rooms
Most of them honestly
Wow 0 people online weird
Do you have to have acertain affinity witht eh godlin merchant to get your stuff back?
no
why is cockatrice not giving me anything anymore? i just all a sudden stopped getting daily gems. its been 5 days. im on the unique items part of the questline
can someone let me leech a skele warlord kill in adventure mode please?
I also need skele warlord kill if i could join ❤️
If someone can help me with Warlord kill for quest I can reward you with a golden key or something
wtb echo for 2 sk
is there a way to get 2 guys that are repeatedly teaming in icecaves solos to kill wyvern banned more quickly? i reported them in 6 lobbys or so
over the span of whole week
send a clip to ironmace
Man these artifact lobbies either have a druid or a rogue in BIS just lobby wiping
can we remove druids? pwease :3
Silly question, but does ranger proc Purge Shot on thrown torches lmao
Does bloodsap blade's healing scale with anything?
check the wiki
Lmfao i can take a white Barb and go straight into HR and kill almost everything
barb needs a balance i think he should be limited to only 1 handed weapons and the giant Barchardie needs 20% less range
Anyone got a build for fighter? Been a long while since I played and im at around 2k gold, mainly been running around in pve to re-learn everything
whats HR?
so how long are we going to allow druid to be broken? They can fly across the map to you, cut throat and bleed you. THey can almost 1 tap with bear then when you almost kill them they mouse away and full heal. How long are we going to let this be okay?
High roller
highroller, the harder more rewarding levels of the dungeon.
🚨 OFFICIAL PETITION TO 86 SDF FROM DARK AND DARKER DEV ROLE 🚨
We, the suffering citizens of the Dark and Darker community, do hereby unite under one sacred cause: removing SDF from the dev role before he nerfs our sanity into the abyss.
Never before has one developer wielded such mighty tools with such pitiful aim. Every patch note is a cryptic scroll of doom. Every balance change? A cosmic joke. Every update? A test of our patience, skill, and will to live.
We have tanked bugs, grinded through glitches, and endured the unholy terror that is SDF’s game design philosophy. But we draw the line here. Let the era of nerf-hammer tyranny end!
🛑 No more invisible mobs.
🛑 No more 20% slower movement "to encourage realism."
🛑 No more “experimental” ideas that belong in a cursed mod, not the main game.
🛑 No more SDF deciding the fate of our builds at 3AM with a single keystroke and zero QA.
It’s time for a new dawn. A patch free from madness. A dev team free from the clutches of chaotic-neutral design theory.
📢 SIGN BELOW AND RISE UP
86 SDF from the dev role.
Save Dark and Darker.
Make balance great again.
✊ #FreeThePatchNotes
✊ #NerfSDFNotPlayers
You didnt mention to nerf to the ground Zweihander and barbarian, its invalid
what is priories for stats for melee dps? like order of which i need most for higher dmg
If I want to increase my damage, which stat should I go for first? (Physical Damage Bonus, Physical Power, or Armor Penetration)
as what class
currently using rogue.
please fix druid
guys whats the fastest way to kill cyclops in solo mode. ik they nerfed the warlock method recently
hitting it until it dies
Does gold ore spawn in the goblin caves, adventure mode?
strength, minimmum 15, also want +1 true psy damage on glvoes cloak rings and a frost amulet, next you want dex and vigour
whats dex do? and what about physical power?
dex is attack speed, and psy power is 1:1 strength
hello do anyone know how much a catice cost in Skull key ?
Why is the wisp removing rogue stealth from a room away?
sdf coding and vision
you can still rank up and earn rewards right?
what makes you woonder that?
is the season over and ranking up no longer matters?
no its mid season
ahh ok ty.
ye np
how i go 2nd floor in ice cave
jump into the abyss on the south part of the map after ti starts glowingred with a storm
man that takes me back to my first time going down there, didnt know about it and was sus af lol
If I die in PvE with a Legendary Pickaxe will I get it back from Goblin or no? Pls @ me!
was in trios, went down and got rolled on the steps trying to go up to the dragon lmao and no @rugged totem
theres a 0% chance that gk artifact drop chance is 12%
how so?\
ive done like 50 or so and not a single named
i feel you but that can be bad rng
i only some times get stuff back from goblin
and only 1 sk
hr doesnt have recovery, and if you found it in the dungeon it wont be recovered, or in normals if someone loots your corpse it wont be there either, no tools are ever recovered tho
i feel i must be the most unlucky person to play this game
haha you should see a montage off all the quest chains i didnt get to finish every season over a single bangle or gem etc
@lean lodge
ive kill[ed well over 200 cockatrices, The ONE egg ive ever seen i saw was on sorcerer in squire kit HR aand it took me TEN MINUTES to kill it, i got the egg and died to zone about 5 feet from a portal because i was out of meds.
im still so sore over it dude.
Hardcore exp
i dont rage that often, but i was fucking unhinged in that moment
Welcome to the game now enjoy never playing sorcerer because it’s the worst class in the game
i was just playing in PVE mode and died to a worm snake thing in goblin mines and all my stuff never came back =[
The moments like that makes the wins so much better, but i have to say one needs to be a bit on the Mas ochist side with this genre
yea i was just bored farming then and decided to spice it up, hence why i was in squire kit xc
Nah your fine the issue is sdf hates sorcerers
sdf hates everything but druid
Nah he loves barbarian
🚨 OFFICIAL PETITION TO 86 SDF FROM DARK AND DARKER DEV ROLE 🚨
We, the suffering citizens of the Dark and Darker community, do hereby unite under one sacred cause: removing SDF from the dev role before he nerfs our sanity into the abyss.
Never before has one developer wielded such mighty tools with such pitiful aim. Every patch note is a cryptic scroll of doom. Every balance change? A cosmic joke. Every update? A test of our patience, skill, and will to live.
We have tanked bugs, grinded through glitches, and endured the unholy terror that is SDF’s game design philosophy. But we draw the line here. Let the era of nerf-hammer tyranny end!
🛑 No more invisible mobs.
🛑 No more 20% slower movement "to encourage realism."
🛑 No more “experimental” ideas that belong in a cursed mod, not the main game.
🛑 No more SDF deciding the fate of our builds at 3AM with a single keystroke and zero QA.
It’s time for a new dawn. A patch free from madness. A dev team free from the clutches of chaotic-neutral design theory.
📢 SIGN BELOW AND RISE UP
86 SDF from the dev role.
Save Dark and Darker.
Make balance great again.
✊ #FreeThePatchNotes
✊ #NerfSDFNotPlayers
barb too, thats fair
are rangers anygood in the game? i seem to not seem them anymore
you have to wait for the timer to end, and be sure to manuually check him after like a few minutes ebcause sometimes the yellow PiP doesnt show up
literally have to play 12 hours a day not to be broke hope this game pulls a dungeonborn so bad
yes if you can aim, but you need expensive kits usually, but ranger is top tier for sure
ah i see, wondering what i should play rogue or ranger
why you set on jsut those two?
unsure. barb is lame i dont like its super easy and just insta win. id rather be underdog class than meta slave
warlock is my main, lvl 700, underdog af in this meta imo
warlock is best class for learning this game, especially pve
really?
I stan sdf, without him we wouldn't have dark and darker, his vision is lowkey great, but it is too ambitious, i hope he realizes that before it's too late
ye, you run torture mastery, vampirism, soul collector, and magic damage reductiuon perks, take phantomize and for spells trake curse of pain, power of sacrifice (those you heal with only use power if you need to and dont miss with it) hellfire, flamewalk, and either curse of weakness or hydra last
be sure to use occultist hood and mystic glvoes for the magic healing
I just wrote a detailed steam review, and am curious if anyone here agrees with some of my opinions. Here's a link to it if anyone is interested in reading it: https://steamcommunity.com/id/peemodingus/recommended/2016590/
hellfire is good for killing mobs when you are safespotting them, and flamewalk and run around if you cant safespot. phantomize if you get stuck, its just like playing cod zombies @silver current
debateable since they stole this game lol
Buff fighter make second wind have a cooldown instead of require a camp fire
Buff victory strike tbh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCHiBfKTD1k @glad thunder can you please for once act like a proper human being and listen to the feedback your game's community wants to tell you?
no
dark and darker is a inescapable trap and i cannot be convinced otherwise
hi just came back to the game, where is the classic dungoen map?
i just spent all my money just to die to a one shot Catice build. 8sk just to die to Catice
never done it, doe it work well with +1 friend thats a mage?
How long is the average season in dark and darker?
hi im new to the game , do merchants sell better items later? because im filled with money doing pve only to learn the game , but the loot ingame is so much better. If i go pvp and die , how can i get something better than just base set?
Everything is up for debate, justice said otherwise
then why they paying a fine
has no difference if you have a friend or not for hellfire, hellfire hurts anythign touching it, flamewalk wont hurt you but will hurt your friend tho
Fair
fuck nexxon too tho for the record
Can ironmace fix the skeletons always getting stuck on doors? Like holy hell my strat is to kite them for support and throw them on players but when my herd is always getting stuck cuz shit pathfinding thats ironmace holding me back cmon guys
Nexxon cried about Unity assets lmfao
nexxon would have done a better job with this game lmao
not disagreeing
Fair and fairer
Does anyone know how much this would be?
Heavy Leather Leggings - Legendary
3 Strength
3 Physical Power
4 Additional Move Speed
3.9% Armor Pen
You can SEARCH it
Like i say impeach sdf as a meme, but objectivley i think 90% of people know and would agree that sdf not making changes would be healthy for the game, and its likely due to him alone this game will die if it ever does
Theres nothing like it ;-;
Could someone help me out, My game wont even open from the launcher. It just inf says from the play button "cancel" then after like 4ish minutes is crashes my computer does anyone know a fix??
Sounds like 800 gold to me
take off the armour pen roll and check that, always take off the worst roll first
Ironmace: Pretends they make good decisions
Also ironmace: Makes rogue two tap to everything around them and any chance of winning a 1v1 is a literal gamble on whether or not they get a hit in on you.
feel like that might be worth a little mroe than 800 imo, cause its almost bis rolls
can you socket for +1 all?
nope
tbf you get stuff like double jump, and poisons on ranged weapons, trick is not to get hit till you know you have advantage hp wise, also build a lot of vigour
I would say he is a bottleneck, he hinders change
he pushes actually infuriating changes, like no ap lose on death mid season last season after i got demi the long way, season ebfore that multi classing the last two weeks of hr
Double jump doesnt get you out of swinging range. Poison doesnt help and what ranged weapons? Throwing knives? The things that cant even kill the flying skeleton heads with 2 headshot hits, and I also only ever come across maybe 2 in the dungeon? Also 1v1 theres no one else doing damage. Its a crap class for only being able to get kills in a 2v1.
Poison is easily outpaced by potions and barbarian cries
Ty, Never had a item that has like max roles on pretty much all good stats so
do unique mobs spawn in pve mode?
you are the most agile class in the game, double jumps allows you to gap them in lots of specific locations in the game, and you can outrun anyone if you dont get hit by a franny or something, you kite and work them down.
What should I throw on?
With squire gear no they lose to any other class with squire gear cant run fast enough.
ngl i think we should make every magic character have campfire spells except warlock cause they have a drawback
i meant try searching with the armour pen roll off for a an idea of value
ah ty
yep. but thats not gonna happen.
Nobody fucking PvP's in this game anymore it's so sad, everyone just holds off until they can third and fourth party, nobody fights unless they are 110% sure they will win the fight, and the current "balancing" patch is just the cherry on top
does that have limited # of spells to use per dungeon? i find that difficult to manage
not every class, you can win as rogue against any non pdr, so any caster is on the table easily
nope. warlock uses your HP to cast spells, thats why you use curse of pain and power of sarifice to heal via the torture mastery perk
tbbf thats just a winners playstyle sorry xc def rat like tho
like i feel like you should have to sit down every now and then to recharge
on warlock that would be stupid because it would negate the entire class
lobbies feel so dead with people hitting reds instantly. they shouldn't open until 5min into the match
If he did explain every change, why it is the way it is, we might view his decisions otherwise
Lmao I got two tapped by a sorcerer after stabbing the shit out of him and getting him to 1 tap. 2 hits is all it took, no chance for me to pull off when I die that easily
what warlocks ever killed you with a hellfire lmfao @pliant tiger
read my thing before you complain i clearly said this shouldnt apply to warlock due to drawbacks (hp loss)
i fuckign replied to your thing what do you mean? you replied to a guy specifically talking abotu warlock spells
Hakuna hakuna
the thing i said before that twin
god i cant type for shit, meff is a hell of a drug, and link or repost it or something because i dont see how that is relevant to your reply to his statement @pliant tiger
wym link or repost it
whatever statement you are telling me to read
when was last wipe?
lol wdym by this xD
Chill my brotha chill
@glad thunder whatever they are paying you, you earned it. You really put thorough thought into every update and change with every player in mind, solos, duos, and trios. Each class has careful balancing to ensure they aren't by default gonna lose to specific other classes.
Mobs have the perfect pathfinding with zero issues. They never get stuck on anything.
You did it SDF, you really turned this game into a masterpiece. Whatever they are paying you, you deserve more. Keep it up ❤️
Does lantern shield work with dual wield or does it not count as a weapon
oh im chill, just feel im like getting gas lit
You probably are
i said in my origonal claim that warlock should be exempt mb if i was unclear
yea and i replied and agreed to that, then you replied to the guy asking me about hellfire and you said " they should have to recharge it"
A cooldown perhaps would be good or longer cast time
think you might have replied to the wrong guy or soemthing originally
for hellfire? @chrome sun
Yeah I feel like its a bit too good for mob clearing rn
honestly i wouldnt even be trippin for that
fair take
however its only good like that if you are safespotting, which makes you vulnerable to alot
and they made a lot of mobs resist the fire damage now too, like GC bosses you cant hellfire in hr anymore, also abomination takes fucking ages
where can i find gold ingot?
buy it or kill both GC bosses then go to the mining room with the boss doors and mine it @royal glacier
is it not minable?
Or wait there for other players to kill it, I did that once
yea and in HR this is 100% the move
if playing rogue or bard or ranger you can sometimes mine the gold and leave before anyone gets there l ol
alright im off to work, first job in 5 years after ruining my lfie wish me luck, going to the carwash 🎶
Get that bag gurl!!!
shitt min wage bag les gooo
Well in my case they had killed the boss and looted them but went back to clear the other players ig (based on the death thing in the top right), so me and my friend got the gold and snuck into the loot room and took the loot
How long is the average season in dark and darker?
i read the context wrong mbbb
has ironmace released the skin from last season yet the elite archer skeleton skin\
Hello, are true damage useful on the rogue?
Yes. The faster your attacks are, the better true damage is.
yes
best tip to avoid skeleton warlord knife atack=???
ok ty
Dont let it hit u
the best stat for rogue
the fact that rangers can stab faster with a shortsword than rogues with knives is bananas
i never seen this before pls elaborate
@chrome sun the player that stacks more action speed should attack faster. If it's a ranger of a rogue should never be taken into consideration. A cleric that stacks 50% action speed (like firebox) SHOULD attack faster than a rogue that doesn't stack action speed lmao
clerics and barbs that all this shit game is
Guess you havent noticed the 4/5 players you run into being barbarian I misread as bard mb
why do you think i posted that?
I'm high
rogue
Rogues in solo, yeah for sure
If you've been killing rogues charging at you its prolly me
@glad thunder please buff sorcerers time distortion it is highly important that this class is able to instantly cast the same way a Druid can instantly transform with no casting time or drawbacks every class can get 330 move speed and 2 tap sorcerer when sorcerer can’t even cast a spell before they close the gap sure I can build knowledge and spell casting speed but it’s not enough to compete against 330 move speed iron will has no drawbacks shapeshift mastery has no downsides quick chant has no downsides and every single one of rangers perks have no downsides
rogues cant even bat a eye in solos compared to 330 ms clerics and barbs
ONGOD bro its a pain enough with everyone else as it is. (Squire gear)
there needs to be a report option for griefing
@quick ermine I mean, are we really going to pretend everyone is running around with 330ms on a good build with Barbs and Clerics? 1/10 people running around with 330ms with those classes are actually strong. The rest are sacrificing every stat to do it
Who do I need to do quest for to get lightfoot boots?
im sorry are you high barb can manage 330ms in squire gear and cleric isnt too expensive to build for it lmao
@glad thunder When are you going to understand that half your playerbase don't want to play trios or arena. It would be smart to put 1% of your current efforts into making solo balance enjoyable and not have the majority of classes get constantly griefed by warlocks, barbs, and druids. It should be a big red flag that you've lost nearly 66% of the playerbase compared to last year, while you keep focusing on nothing but so called "trios balance". Get it together, man
Aight then, Barbs can do 330ms in squire. Good conversation my dude
leathersmith affinity upgrades lightfoot rarity from squire
the 8k player count speaks for itself lmao and how are you trying to argue barbs cant there rage auto makes them 330ms lmao in lightfoots
I mean, Barb has always been able to do 330ms without gear on lmao And then die instantly to any player with an IQ higher than a napkin. You're not getting 330ms equipped with a chest, helmet and legs with just "lightfoot and rage"
Do you guys think the old races cosmetics and item skins should come back? I would like to have another chance at getting the frozen potion skin personally
Races yeah, skins (torches, campfires, emotes etc) no
fuck all the bullshit yall be bitching about, they need to stop adding people in preexisting dungeons
Why not the item skins? I don’t think anything should be unobtainable in this game
Bro earlier I died and it put me in the same dungeon, this happened twice. I went back to my body and died to the same guy lmfao
Seasonal items often don't come back in other games, why should they here? They're Season 1/2/3/4/5 rewards, they're supposed to be exclusive
i will test it out! thx for the input. currently been just messing around with rogue since can pick locks
you can clear a lobby then die to someone who just spawned in... its dumb
@trim wagon Get good, or get morale boost
better then you turd
"No u" damn you got me brother
"Get good"
Meanwhile the player thats spawning in the same room behind him:
"Can't get good enough"
(I've had this happen)
literally
@chrome sun I mean, so have I. I died. That happened once in hundreds of games this wipe. It's not that big of a deal
Just cuz u find it no big deal doesnt mean its a small issue
you can spawn and just follow someones exact path and kill them, thats not d&d
how do i get on top in painful steps?
Being able to join same dungeon or dungeon instance having new players able to join is literally diabolical
The fact I had 2 attempts at the same guy that killed me already is diabolical
in the same dungeon instance
Oh that is just pure idiocy. Whoever in Ironmace is against preventing people from joining the same lobby (even in normals) is an actual invertebrate. I completely agree with you there
what is up with people who que into arena just to grief their team from the start?
The thing about most of those seasonal items are straight boosts, the races are great and look great and locking them behind that is really lame
Bro or theres 1 guy that makes it seem like they are ready to pvp with ya and then they just run off and leave u to 2v3
@knotty urchin My man, I literally said RACES YES, skins no.
isnt races typically p2w?
that is still lame considering theres no other skins for potions and shields and even capes
Ironmace would rather fidget with numbers than add actual content into the game
You have to be in a fairly extreme situation for that to be an argument. I mean like dying with 1 hp left or something.
@knotty urchin There will be other skins for those items in the future, play then and get them.
dont act like the frozen potion skin and the sparkly cape dont look the best and nothing can compete
The potions look terrible imo, the cape looks cool
where are the red mining nodes? been on that struggle bus finding them
the skeleton potion looks horrible the frozen ones look amazing imo
I think they all look like a waste of money
tbh i rly dont think the skins give any real advantage, the stats are so small it rly doesn't do anything. the once exception would be lizard or the werewolf, bc early wipe you dont have the helmets.
but if im going to waste money i want it to look nice
@glad thunder please buff sorcerers time distortion it is highly important that this class is able to instantly cast the same way a Druid can instantly transform with no casting time or drawbacks every class can get 330 move speed and 2 tap sorcerer when sorcerer can’t even cast a spell before they close the gap sure I can build knowledge and spell casting speed but it’s not enough to compete against 330 move speed iron will has no drawbacks shapeshift mastery has no downsides quick chant has no downsides and every single one of rangers perks have no downsides or cooldowns for rangers ability to shoot arrows that do half someone’s hp
@long grove Eh... That's not true. The mummy skin with 5% buff duration is pretty big on some builds
all of the paid skins are great
It helps hit some breakpoints and massively aleviates gearing
wasnt that hr though? how could u even call that p2w
the free ones are meh but are solidly better then base
They all are kinda mid
True, but that's why I believe they should come back @long grove They should either let people get that skin again, or give the stats to a new skin
nah its that ppl are just blocking the spawn room and going 0 dmg a game
i think the idea of reintroducing older skins through religion could be cool. but as always, the fortgoobers will complain how "they had it og"
does anyone know why goldsmith might not work? hes not registering the equipment im trying to goldmisth
Also, whoever made the decision to limit Legendary players (who paid for this horseshit game) to 20 auction slots instead of 100, I hope you get measles. That's scummy
let me list all of the exclusive races and their buffs, Skeletons either swap mr or pdr pretty mid, Zombie solid debuff duration \
@lapis ingot The only instance where this happens with me is if the item is equipped or white/grey
💯
i dont think the skins from events should come back but the skins gotten from HR or religion should be obtainable again
erm just buy the battlepass
where can i find rubysilver ore nodes?
i have an epic ring not equipped
No idea tbh... Have you tried closing your game and opening it again?
yea didnt work ;c
Is that the only item that doesn't work?
do u guys know if u get anything for finishing on top 3 in religion?
Druid is fun
nope everything isnt going in. instead its going straight to equiped or into my inventory then equipped
are you left clicking? You need to left click to select the item
oh... yea im special. thanks tho :3
Lmao no worries
You get nothing more than the rest of us
naw shift clicking in this game feels off
just a lil bit
It has a weird delay that's not consistent at all. Sometimes the delay is long, sometime is short. It's terrible
exactly
Why does the religion skin cost 1 million gold, that's nuts
I got my first PvP kill yesterday 🗿
100k*
@steel bluff
I died in PvE mode, got back to the same lobby, retrieved my loot, then died in inferno later on... Now the goblin wont give my stuff back, lol help
lmao I didn't even think about that but since the maps are continuous now I guess there's nothing stopping you from that
also you're probably just gonna want more stuff lmao
if i die in pve ice abyss do i lose my shit for good?
yes, if you fell in the void
And apparently double dying gets you screwed aswell, thanks ironmace
double dying ?
Buff sorcerer so that I can use merged spells without a perk and I can use time distortion no drawbacks @glad thunder
whens ironmace gonna add a pve alt to arena
What do you mean? Like q boss rush or wave of monster spawning? Like a horde mode?
if u have +8 physical healing. does that mean ur bandages heal u for +8 on top of the origional amount
Yes, but i'm not sure that work right now. iirc it's a know issues that the scaling of bandage don't work and physical healing don't apply like it should. But that deserve to be tested it might have been fixed
wait why would it not be working?
A bug/an oversight of the dev. It has been like for for a very long time now and I don't know if they've fixed it or not
If I remember correctly, someone pointed at them that Physical healing don't apply to bandage in one of the interview/Q&A on Onepeg's channel so they should be aware of that issues but I'm not sure they've fixed it
Dilo what are you doing here?
what about magical healing does that work?
Go back to suggestion channel! At once
xD I used to be here a lot but nowadays i'm almost only in the suggestion channel

Nop, not for bandage. They're meant to scale on Physical healing, as I said if it don't work it's due to a but or an oversight of the dev
the portrait for druid when he's a rat is so goofy oh my god
I don't just do good suggestion, I also have a good knowledge of the game which help me answering people's question 
make druid rat a drug addict plz
i understand, i was asking does magical healing work? or is it broken too
I thought it's the other way around. You have a good knowledge so you also do good suggestions
🤣
It's late I'm speaking nonsense
Horde mode would be dope
Vermintide III is looking goofy
Oh sry, yes magical healing apply to potion and spell as it should. It's not an issues with physical healing in general it only about the bandages. Physical healing work fine with campfire, ranger's bread and bard beer perk
It could be cool but would ask for a lot of work and new things to create only for this gamemode. But I would prefer that as Arena of Adventure mode who're just splitting the main game mode, not really doing something new and unique
why the fuck am i getting matched on NA when im eu
The last thing we need is more queues for sure.
They NEED to rotate certain maps and party sizes to keep lobbies filled and get rid of continuous dungeon
rangers are so cringe
Do you think without true phys and as much armor pen that ranger would be balanced or too weak for pvp?
I made what I believe being the perfect suggestion for that month ago if you want to check https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/576260/improvement-to-the-new-matchmaking-system-and-map-rotation
as of now I'm two-hit by most rangers with no way to get close. idfk
I'll take a gander later ty
"failoed to connect to the server
quit the game" anyone know a fix>
havent played in a month, why is spectral fabric so cheap?
This idea of a gentleman's agreement about no teaming and having to report people will never work at scale.
YOU CAN MAKE OTTO FLY ON SORC
tried that, tried restarting my pc too and still didn’t work
Does anyone know if the loot is overall better between the grade of each dungeon? I know the grade of what you can find goes up but does it increase the chance of finding items like epic grade or task items?
id say its not much of a difference if you arent bossing between epic and full huge gap between common and epic tho dont know about rare
@sullen finch artifact hr much better loot than epic
@weary herald yup
why do I die to 2 bodyshots from a longbow in arena? it's a bug right?
Why would the goblin merchant have a ruins quest for Cockatirce f eather....makes no sense
or is the game this bad designed?
can a lantern shield parry a war maul or is the impact resistance too low?
what's a good Cleric counter on solos? Managed to kill two and then third partied by the last one that had incredible movespeed, tired of these shits xD
mages and rogues im guessing
is there some kind of bug where when you try to join blue lobby it says you have something higher than that tier, but when you follow squire there are no items to be moved?
lets go ahead and help me too, WHat the fuck is error 21 on tavern.
If you manage to kill 2 in a row and pretend to win the 3rd I can tell u the class is fine or needs a Buff
hey i havent played in a few weeks are quests still coming out or are they all out yet? sorry if this is a dumb question i haven't played a full wipe in a long time lmao
everyone seems to complain about druid and barbarian but can we have a serious conversation about how bad for the game warlock is? warlock always has and seems like it always will be the most broken class.
they died more to the mobs than me, and I was doing warlock for pve purposes... second class next to barb to get the most countered by cleric maybe xD ass
one thing that was really confusing to me was that I had more MS, and the cleric kept closing the gap even when I juked him hard... is that haxors (no mika fista)
Cleric is counterable by every class that can silcence ora by kiting with some brain (unlike sorc that can safely spam)
Stop CLosing Arena!
What is the community's current opinion of Aegis? I am a fan of heater shields, but the spell reflection seems kinda useless at first glance. Given it's cooldown and that it's not guaranteed (unless I'm reading it wrong).
OKAY made a warlock. we see how it goes!
Yo I just lost a 3000 gold kit because the game crashed in goblin caves, fix the game please.
is gob merch for hr back yet
no, we still haven't decided what we want hr to be, come back in another four years
when will arenas be back?
damn games so dead u cant even find a party for adventure mode it just forces solos haha wow
Got canceled, check announcements for it, sdf said some crap about it not fitting in with their plan for the game and focusing on the main game or something?
Rip arena
so were lying now lol he never said that
i was abt to say it’s the most fun me and my friends have had on the game in a while
WILL YOU LOSE LANTERN IF U THROW IT IN ARENA?
someone tell sdf to leave arena open. its the only thing saving the playercount rn.
throw a shit lantern to try and get back to us 😛
buff rogues
why is my phys dmg perma -10 dmg IronMace... I have NATIVE weapons out and it still applies
Latam servers had died, only 2/3 people each game
Are the quests out for the skin/item skin/ and emote?
agreed. the damage is kinda weird. and insanely short range. and just die from 1 hit from barb Lol
"that's teaming, I'm reporting you" is never going to scale past a few thousand players. gl.
Man. The servers have been bad for weeks and they just keep getting worse.
these devs dont give af about the game anymore dude. They've made their millions. I'm convinced they are intentionally trying to kill the game so they can shut the servers down and go retire.
Is the goblin merchant garunteed to get your stuff in pve?
mention me if you'
Still have yet to fix it
same for me
hell yea the only fun part of the game is closed for 3 days
well sadly everyone is fucking retarted and doesnt wanna help
I mean they still don’t have quick sort they clearly don’t care about our time 🤣, every other extraction has it but I digress
I also have BSOD after this error)
I've look for like 4 hours already and I'm giving up
spend 2 days for find any solution. nothing helped. so freaking sad. read all reddit, steam threads
I know how you feel I've been doing this for abt a week now
If I am in columbia and my friend is in US, how can I tell what server we will be on when we play duos together? Which is default?
how is a sorc balanced, i dont see it one bit
Are the quests out for the skin/item skin/ and emote?
hey which spiders drop spider silk? all the larger ones? or just GC? like do the ice caves ones drop it as well?
just Giant Spiders, there's 1-2 on ruins the rest are in goblin caves
kk are the ones on ice caverns called something else then? ty btw
yeah they're called ice giant spiders or ice spiders
Host determines the server reigion
Anyone want to buy Spear of Rot 4%armor pen 3phys power 1wep dmg 3%phys dmg bonus
whats that, like one sword?
Party host is the one whose region party plays on I think
does anybody know if there is a luck cap ?
500
bruh the game just deleted my full legendary kit when I changed character wth
is there a barbarian one handed weapon that is strong against longsword parry
is zweihander easy to parry? can I use it against fighters
Weapon Mastery is broken, taking away dmg with my Native weapon out...
are servers dead i cant find a game in high roller II
High roller random queue is dead you have to find people on discord to queue random
bruh
yea no one wants to que with a random in HR and risk their kit. common lobbies is a good place to start
Open Arenas
How do I get the game to stop stuttering eversince the update I just get nonstop stutters Ive tried updating all my drivers lowering the graphics, overclocking my gcard (never gets close to maxing anything out) ive dissabled shadow play Ive played with all other applications closed I have fiber and never dip below 600mb ps and 50 upload speed.. I am at a loss I cant play the game with this stuttering ive died so many times to stutter not allowing me to walk I cant figure out wtf is going on with this damn game
Its from them doing continuous dungeons people spawning in mid game bugs it, used to just be a little stuttering at the start but now that its endless its atleast the first half of the game. Servers have been ass since release but they save money that way I guess 🤷🏻♂️
It seems to happen a ton if I get into a pvp fight
Yeah 2 players interacting makes it shit itself, so much worse in trios too
melee only and bossing sometimes
the amount of times me and my friend have died from rubberbanding lol
Fr I walk into ghost king room and frames just plummet and he gets free hit
where does cave troll spawn? is it random?
Im At a loss I cant figure it out this update has killed it for me
what the fuck is up with the audio this update, every like 3 minutes my game sound just morphs into static and i cant hear anything.
BARBARIAN AND CLERIC IS LITERALY SO BROKEN RN, OPEN YOUR EYES IRON MACE 
So i tested sorc windblast recenlty, without the perk im pushing ppl from like 0.5-2m at max, with the ait mastery i push ppl like 6-8m away, how is it 50%? xD
what should i build on sorc for frost wyvern should i do true mag
With how frequent these crashes are you should make the "send and restart" button on the crash report actually work instead of making me relaunch it through steam @glad thunder
i recently lost A 5 K KIT BECAUSE THE PORTALS ARE BUGGED AND THEY NOT APPEAR:(
why is it not letting me get into a match saying I have restricted items on rare lobbies. I dont see a single epic, legendary, unique, or artifact on me???
Squire gives an option to point out what item is causing that and whether you want to stash it
Yeah but i have no item above rare
You are a legendary item yourself 😉
🐔 BUFF CHICKEN 🐔
nerf druid
Lets focus on nerfing barbarian first
awww ☺️
guys someone knows why sometimes the portals dont spawn in the circle
nah the class with poor ranged options needs buffs
rogue needs bow
nice bait
you have a hand bow
barb has and will always be able to hit way above it's weight class by the very nature of what the class is (high hp, extremely high damage, low armor), you can't realistically do much to it without just making the class useless
BARBARIAN AND CLERIC IS LITERALY SO BROKEN RN, OPEN YOUR EYES IRON MACE 
nah. it aint broken
what does it mean to have negative phys power bonus?
barb is mid at best get gud
bro your nick is bonk king, ofc u think its no so broken
can anyone offer me potential solutions to a lag issue
I constantly rubber band when I move. If I stand still the game runs perfect but when I try to move I lag back.
I have a great pc with updated drivers and great internet. This is the only game I lag on like this, my discord vc does not lag so its not an internet issue. I have tried to contact dark and darker support but they have been incredibly unhelpful not providing a single potential fix. Does anyone have any ideas?
Your damage= terriable
just try to play duo cript brotha, u ill see just barbs and clerics teams
BARBARIAN AND CLERIC IS LITERALY SO BROKEN RN, OPEN YOUR EYES IRON MACE 
use ranged dmg and kill them
my name got nothing to do with the fact that i think it aint broken :)
they building 330 and take you without bare hands bro
try to play with other classes in cript artifact HR, cuz i dont belive u arew playing with other classes
movespeed all pieces thats a good idea if you re main barb and cleric lmao
how has barb not been brought back down yet this is stupid
wow another 6 yetis killed and no tooth
remove the only mechanics squishy classes have (bhop) and give barb cleric 330 move speed lets go
barb and cleric is a literaly cancer rn, but yall deserve this shit
i play all classes :). enjoying shield bash fighter right now tho
terrible devs, please sell game to krafton. You guys have literally no idea what you're doing
all classes = barbarian, cleric and warhamer fighter lmao
all classes = only meele rolf
ive got clips of me playing ranger and sorc :)
the war hammer cant use shield bash so why would i use that lol. its shield bash build for a reason
yall so weird for not kiting. build move speed and shoot clerics and barbs its not hard.
Gotta switch modes then switch back its a glitch
Third parties always get me mid kite, then dude heals
kowalaski, update?
ye you good brotha i figured
pog
name a class that doesnt ever smack something
is there no way to get boddies that fall into the void
f for respects
rat druid form
bs go on a druid rn, drop a drum, go rat form, left click the drum and come back to me @shut raptor
Throwback to when dropping things as a bear made them huge and as a rat made them tiny, those were good times.
rip my drum club houses and collection of tiny oddities
just be quiet bro, u might to be the more brainrot player
You gotta jump in after them
So because im not a meta sweat im a brainrot player? If you dont like how the game works just say so :)
wait that’s possible? LMAO
Warhammer is good. Ignore skrub he just doesn't like having his face turned into mash potatoes.
I dont like the warhammer ... you completely missed out on what ive said ...
Ah. My apologies, I only read the last few messages.
The warhammer isn't as good as it used to be, you don't see clerics hiding behind doorways with them like you used to but it still hurts and can create some distance.
Ah wait I'm thinking of the maul.
you can melee on rat, and if you hit the drum it doesnt make a drum sound its just something you can do for cinematic quality
is the religion skin permanent?
IM gotta fix these servers its better today but this is absurd
low armor ? i guess we don't play the same game lmao barb can easily get 60%pdr
is the cocatrices egg bugged?
would using a cinder while stacking will and magic power be good?
150 hours this season and havent found a single one yet lol
Guys, the crashing is a feature not a bug
if you use a vpn this is true more than you might know xc
its actually crazy how rare it is, makes 0 sense for them to be so hard to find
thats what the ai thinks about you sdf Hey SDF,
Let me be blunt – what the hell is going on? You're driving Dark and Darker straight into a wall, and you're doing it at full speed. What once felt like a raw, honest, community-driven experience is now being turned into a monetized mess that’s starting to look more like a desperate mobile game than the hardcore PvPvE gem it once was.
Let’s talk about what’s going wrong:
Battle pass, cosmetics, premium currency, cash shop – all jammed in without any real thought. This game was supposed to go against the industry trend, not become a caricature of it.
Design decisions that scream "cash grab" instead of thoughtful game development.
Constantly ignoring community feedback unless it’s sugarcoated praise.
This isn't just mismanagement – it’s ego-driven chaos. You’re not listening, you’re provoking. And then acting surprised when your most loyal players start walking away? That’s not how a real dev leads a game. That’s how you burn it to the ground.
You had something special here. Dark and Darker used to feel unique – now it just feels like another soulless attempt to milk players dry. The worst part? It didn’t have to go this way.
Nobody is against fair monetization. But what you're doing right now is absurd – and if you can't see how you're gutting your own game for short-term cash, then you're completely out of touch.
I’m not writing this to hate. I’m writing this because I still care – and a lot of us still do. But if you don't pull it together and start acting like a real game developer again, you're going to end up alone in a dungeon full of empty wallets and lost potential.
Dark and Darker deserves better. And so do the people who believed in it.
Textwall
yea im still not over it, so trigganomotrying
is there any indication of a monk class coming? one of my favorite fantasy/dnd class types
🚨 OFFICIAL PETITION TO 86 SDF FROM DARK AND DARKER DEV ROLE 🚨
We, the suffering citizens of the Dark and Darker community, do hereby unite under one sacred cause: removing SDF from the dev role before he nerfs our sanity into the abyss.
Never before has one developer wielded such mighty tools with such pitiful aim. Every patch note is a cryptic scroll of doom. Every balance change? A cosmic joke. Every update? A test of our patience, skill, and will to live.
We have tanked bugs, grinded through glitches, and endured the unholy terror that is SDF’s game design philosophy. But we draw the line here. Let the era of nerf-hammer tyranny end!
🛑 No more invisible mobs.
🛑 No more 20% slower movement "to encourage realism."
🛑 No more “experimental” ideas that belong in a cursed mod, not the main game.
🛑 No more SDF deciding the fate of our builds at 3AM with a single keystroke and zero QA.
It’s time for a new dawn. A patch free from madness. A dev team free from the clutches of chaotic-neutral design theory.
📢 SIGN BELOW AND RISE UP
86 SDF from the dev role.
Save Dark and Darker.
Make balance great again.
✊ #FreeThePatchNotes
✊ #NerfSDFNotPlayers
currently rocking 1 signature yall, stand up for your rights
anyone have any good bossing guides for new players? Like the order to do them in or just individual boss guides for new players?
ryan6daysaweek on youtube, and play warlock
ty
goblin bosses are usually the easiest to start with, then lich/ghostking, then last spec/banshee/wyvern/ and warlord and np
I got the stupid torch skin smh
also yeah I was trying to do lich but the orb got me bc the person I was duoing with didn't mention they instakill LMAO
happens to everyone at least once usually ;p
I was fighting spectral knight on my own in adventure but I eventually died
you can survive it technically, gotta have hella mag resist tho
understandable, rn Im maining fighter with movement speed spear, sprint and second wind, although I might switch SW to adrenaline once im more comfortable
nah switch sprint if anything and just get move speed rolls on everything
yeah ?
if you have the money for a good kit yea for sure, although if you like two handed weapons spriunt could help you hit 330 ms weapon out on a budget
should I run counterattack for the 3s of extra MS lol
I feel like spear blocking is a little less reliable than something like longsword tho
i think, i havent done it tho so idk (the 2h weapon out 330 thing) and spear playstyle is very diff from longsword
thats what im doing rn since Im running normals II atm, I don't have the capital to put down for HR ante atm, just been killing timmies in ruins and goblin caves
longsword you wanna go full riposte build and fish for parrys
I know about lobster but whats fish? I also think I prefer spear to longsword tbh
havent played much spear fighter, but spear is usually good on anyone imo, fish for parrys means sitting there in defensive stance with longsword "fishing" for a parry by waiting for them to attack you and then you riposte with the lognsword
Fwog is highkey scummy and toxic it sucks, his freinds he played with are that way too, can't stand watching him
If you use the right perks this can be one of the most op eez win strats
, and random
^?
yeah I think a spear on someone who can run faster than you is just always going to be good lol
facts, same with halberd and bardiche too
Sorry, the game is just not hardcore enough. I want to sit there sweating at primetime hoping the maintenance window isn't extended because a database migration failed.
im guessing those might be pricier to run, huh
I tried the war maul in arena and did not enjoy it ngl
is war maul really a cleric thing
war mauls weird fo sho, adn nah they pretty cheap easpecially halberd, you want some dex for sure tho cause they swing slow
i think war maul cleric is a meme imo tbh lol
dex is always good, yep
action speed doesn't hurt too, especially if I feel like running poke damage with bows or something lol
same thing ;p dex = +action speed
spear has to be decent on rogue im sure with proficency right
How can I unlock the frost wyvern statue? I didn't play for a month and now that I'm back I can't use the statue anymore.
just as psy power is a 1:1 with strength, and magic power a 1:1 with will, and nah rogue cant use spear lmfao, thats hilarious to think about @static pendant
ranger**
im...chemically enhanced atm
is hr yo uneed the frozen mallet thing, an item consumable, in normals its same deal
meant to reply to @balmy fractal
lolol you good and yea it is, especially with a person in a trap, you can just poke them to death if they haev no range
noted
Guys just so u know I'm making so french fries. Its gonna be gr8
baked, air fried, microwaved? what brand? @chrome sun
Costco crispy and simply baked I dont have an air fryer
its a worth purchase imo, very nice for unhealthy shit food
they nerfed traps to death. They last 4 seconds
Prolly is but for this baking comes out nice
ive never been scummy enough to play ranger so i wouldnt know, f for respects tho
aka: i cant aim or cope
game is bugged i have some greens blues and cant enter blue lobby saying i have a higher grade whats causing this
if you fall in the void, does goblin not give gear back?
so yes i get gear?
you have a rare bandage in your inventory
@void kestrel nope even if it was rare it should allow it
check everything in your inventory, or switch to a different rarity dungeon and switch back
I was told somehwere here there is a post about the % of people playing PvE and PvP, can anyone direct me where that might be?
lucck potion?
luck potion?
na nothing like that ofc i checked everything its bugged,,today when i went hr i couldn coz it said i have a higher grade item than an artifact
coins or coin bag?
even if you can bring that thats not higher grade than artifact
you still cant i dont think
there is no higher grade than artifact obv bug ,,maybe from the new religion skin @warped helm pretty sure yo ucan
where did i say there is higher grade than atrifact
oh i see what you meant my b
Well, Died in Free Mode. and got Zero gear back. i've been screwed. done with this game for now.
seen a couple peopel say this now
🚨 OFFICIAL PETITION TO 86 SDF FROM DARK AND DARKER DEV ROLE 🚨
We, the suffering citizens of the Dark and Darker community, do hereby unite under one sacred cause: removing SDF from the dev role before he nerfs our sanity into the abyss.
Never before has one developer wielded such mighty tools with such pitiful aim. Every patch note is a cryptic scroll of doom. Every balance change? A cosmic joke. Every update? A test of our patience, skill, and will to live.
We have tanked bugs, grinded through glitches, and endured the unholy terror that is SDF’s game design philosophy. But we draw the line here. Let the era of nerf-hammer tyranny end!
🛑 No more invisible mobs.
🛑 No more 20% slower movement "to encourage realism."
🛑 No more “experimental” ideas that belong in a cursed mod, not the main game.
🛑 No more SDF deciding the fate of our builds at 3AM with a single keystroke and zero QA.
It’s time for a new dawn. A patch free from madness. A dev team free from the clutches of chaotic-neutral design theory.
📢 SIGN BELOW AND RISE UP
86 SDF from the dev role.
Save Dark and Darker.
Make balance great again.
✊ #FreeThePatchNotes
✊ #NerfSDFNotPlayers
ofc everything in my inventory is legit,,its a weird bug dont know what causes it havent tried full off 1by1 yet
try uninstalling and moving on
@warped helm shu the fuck up#
xc
Is there anywhere to get information on how man people are playing PvE vs PvP?
Can you get action speed over 100 percent with all uniques?
Why do we still allow warlocks to run through lobbies ignoring all PvE? and they can mass heal off mobs is so stupid. Druids too.
if im building a action speed barb what would be the best weapon to use? or does it not matter
warlocks queue with no gear because theyre broken and dont even need gear
imagine being upset someone can pve easier than you at cost to other aspects
These queues are ass
right infinitely healing off mobs while you fight players isnt OP especially when they just run through the whole map
and druids doing the same thing ignoring all PvE and distrupting lobbies is bull shit, how is this still a thing a year later
anyone know which bracket has the most players for solos? from what ive played so far its blue bracket besides common bracket
At low level warlock is OP, at high level warlocks get clapped by many other classes. Why balance it for nubs
Panther needs another nerf it is absolutely stupid they get to stay on you not enough of a movespeed penalty when they attack plus two jumps this game is something else
i would rather chew broken glass then learn these stupid bosses. let the game die.
sippy cup?
i dont think in any version of this game should a class run around the lobby completly ignoring all PvE without a care that is stupid and kills the experience for everyone. its not even about being broken even though healing off mobs is stupid. rework the class
doesnt mean much if you only killed it 4-8 times in those 150 hrs. Although, ive killed it 8 times and ive got an egg 2 times.
i've killed him way more than that, whenever hes on the map we go to the spot and kill it
games in a great spot rn but smite is a lil strongk
It took me 128 kills for both
The current state of Dark and Darker has sparked criticism among players, particularly due to class balance issues that undermine the gameplay experience. A notable example is the Druid class, specifically its rat form, which is unable to wield the War Maul. This limitation contradicts the Druid’s thematic and strategic versatility, especially since the class is built around adaptability and transformation. Preventing the rat form from using a core two-handed weapon like the War Maul restricts viable builds and reduces the impact of the transformation mechanic in higher-level play.
The War Maul is a powerful weapon that complements the Druid’s potential for surprise attacks and close-quarters combat. By denying the rat form access to it, the game effectively removes a high-risk, high-reward strategy that could give Druids a competitive edge in ambushes or tight dungeon corridors. Other classes, like the Barbarian or Fighter, retain their weapon synergies regardless of movement or status, but the Druid’s inability to maintain such synergy in an alternate form puts them at a consistent disadvantage, reducing the form to a gimmick rather than a tactical choice.
This oversight also reflects a broader issue in Dark and Darker‘s current development priorities, where novelty is introduced without sufficient attention to mechanical cohesion. Transformative abilities should expand player choice, not narrow it. If the Druid’s rat form is to be more than just a utility escape tool, it needs access to the same tools—like the War Maul—that define the class’s damage-dealing potential. Until such inconsistencies are addressed, the game risks alienating players who value both creativity and competitive fairness in character design. @glad thunder
i just killed a asian rogue in oce servers then my whole screen went black ive never wanted to uninstall so bad in my life
he was in bis
the item rarity lobbies is the worst thing ive experienced in this game makes me not want to play
Does bloodsap blade scale with phys healing??
no sir
are u serious
yes lol. It's really bad, thats why its 80 gold
hey how do i remove someone from my vc?
🙂
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The Gold Rush quest for treasurer, "Interact golden chests 0/3" is it Lion's head, Marvelous chests, something else all together ? I've looted both and still haven't gotten a tick.
It’s the golden chest similar in size to lions heads. Bring lock picks
any1 ever have the error code 21 when starting the game. It just randomly doesnt let me open the game noq\
other than health/ac speed what is the difference with normal vs artifact dungeon spectral knight?
Anyone know if the HR season has started? will ranking up right now give me rewards at the end of the season?
Druid is the most overpowered class in the game and it's not even close lmfao
Give us back out marketplace slots ffs i can fill up 20 slots in one or two games.......... @glad thunder @zinc sparrow
everyone stay away from @subtle heart bro will greed in hr cares more ab pixels then irl money
Dawg I dced
u grab the loot and hit a blue and ditched us lmao
Someone came into my room and pulled my pc plug im loading back on ….
thats not a dc when u open blue and run with some mid lvl purple gear lmao
🫃Once upon a time, there was a wizard, he was very old and covered in baby oil because that was the only spell he knew. Then he went into Goblin Caves one night, and met Gort, the strongest goblin man. Gort wrapped his big strong arms around the wizard, and they got really slippery together. Now the wizard is pregnant with a goblin litter, and the strong goblin man continues to hold his pregnant wizard husband to this day. The end🫃
dam. L monkey.
yeah L monkey
Also wait why we talking abt greed we all looted the guy we killed I killed the Druid and ALSO main him so I scooped him
yea L monkey.
That’s not my fault I can’t predict the future that ur kid is gonna have piss
bro u begged for pots bc u didnt have money anyone can smell the greed off you
at least a girl would have kids with me XD
I never did tho I said I’m low on pots cuz I got hit a couple of times? And if I was so greedy why would I go clear out a res for a teamte instead of looting him
ur out here begging bro you need to chill over pixels
I’m not talking abt irl im talking abt the ranger u killed 🤦🤦
I never begged tho?
Anyone know if the HR season has started? will ranking up right now give me rewards at the end of the season?
I asked can someone give me some pots? And than our barb said sure I have a line of each? And also u both hit me twice Lmfaoo
i got leathersmith at 150, why cant i make spectral bags? :(
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I’m with monkeyyy on this one F LlamaThong
i think i just lost all trust in humanity after playing dark and darker
barb is extremely unfun to deal with right now and it's just the same build every time, this game really is falling off hard after getting sued
Every class is outsped, every class is out damaged, you can't do anything against a PDR barb w/ move speed. Literally nothing
for what reason do sorcerers get infinite spells, literally is such a bad design
Barb has had the same build since pt1. Now it just has more ms
and now that it has ms, you can't even run from it
Thanks dude he hit me and I asked for pots cuz I was running low and I didn’t even ask him
Why is the dungeon entrance fee AP at 0 this season?
That’s a great question lmao, sdf felt like it
Is it cause the season timer hasnt started?
Not sure, I know that near the end of last wipe they made that change. Personally I don’t mind it but I understand the criticism
how do the devs not know how broken druid is
druids wear shit gear still impossible to kill
@zinc sparrow I have not cheated or engaged in illegal team matchmaking, but my account was abnormally banned. Please help me lift the restrictions on my account.
#JUSTICE4DONG
anybody know how to fix the “tavern not working” issue ?
how do i change server region
you dont
restart your game that usually fixes it
When is the next season wipe/
Jul 10th
Skill issue bro send clip
#freedong
Vpn only way now
holy shit the amount of people esping is wild
Buff longsword
HR is absolutely filled with it, and for some reason ironmace cant detect it
Tf is esping
esp means you can see cloaked people, people across the map, their health, their items, their inventory, their wire frame
basically you know where everyone is on the entire map at all times
new player here, does physical healing mean it works with potions, bandges etc?
bandages yes but not potions
alright thanks king
Does anybody know the standard drop rate for Wendigo Hearts?
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Do you not get items anymore when you die in HR Artifact runs????
I love having to fight THE SAME FUCKING PLAYER twice in one game
Since this game changes everyday I cant keep up anymore, do sorcerers still build resourcefulness into their kits or nah
what magic power bonus % do u want on geared warlocok?
No, goblin merchant is disabled in HR
how much does kuma with 1 add + 1 max + 1.3% phys dmg go for
@glad thunder Why does sorc have to give up spells to use crystal sword? Why cant sorc cast both wheels with crystal ball? Both of these "features" are pointless and serve to limit the choice of a sorc.
Why say that sorc can use crystal ball and sword, when we can't do so effectively? FIGHTER can use a crystal sword better than sorc can.
so tired of sorceror cant kill shit
That is because Crystal Sword scales with magic power and damage bonuses which makes it an optimal choice as a melee sorcerer build which unfortunately means you need to sacrifice some of your spell casting ability.
It also just happens to be a caster weapon so rather reinvent a new system to counter this for a singular class they implemented a workaround instead of addressing the underlying issue.
why is player count drop from 20k to 12k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA_tEsgrJek have anyone seen this???
Because sdf is in charge
he sums up the godforsaken issues in this game so gd well
end of last season was goat and now they made huge changes that i think are debatable
LMAO OOOOF
imagine still thinking this game is good in 2025
lol
this is a really good video explaining it thank you :D
yea he hits the nail on the head
lol how i can make altar of sacrifice quest if i solo player?
Because no skill expression, low TTk, just W left click, the depth of the combat has been lost
Just watch YT to understand that this One tap meta is carcinogenic.
I don't even enjoy watching streamers anymore
1-3 second TTK is not fun and very un-exciting
Unfortunately we have a team that is ignorant about pvp. I am waiting for Hunger which seems to be a better game. Dad is failing miserably.
im really excited about hunger too.
Yes, it's a matter of time but dad will be outclassed because they are incompetent.
i saw the onepeg video about hunger before he had to take it down for giving too much info, and having a point every level to put into a progression talent system is super awesome and gives huge replayability
Yes and if the fight is done well, goodbye dad see you in another life
how do you start the ice wyvern fight?
is it normal for bard's music to just not play sometimes even when done correctly?
Hmmm... isn't the sorc the only mage class that could potentially one-shot someone? If done right and built right?
And who's fault is this? Who is the one in charge that every other employee needs to consult with if they have an idea and/or want to implement something into the game which makes new content updates ultra slow?
SDF?
Yes ofc
Fuck SDF!
5 -> 3 -> 5 -> 3 -> 10% phys -> 3 -> 5 friendly reminder that this is axe specialization's perk patch notes
They are killing their own game, maybe on purpose? Maybe they prefer it empty for legal reasons?
the internet and it's impact on gaming culture and the development of metas have been devastating for online gaming
Idk what this guy has in his mind, I'm just criticizing him for his incompetency
Anyone got any recommendations for gold grinding rn? Want religion skin 
how do i start the ice wyvern boss?
need mallet
the new entrance gear limit system in trash: 1) now everymode has people that are playing bis highroll gear (some around 5k+) and every person that cant afford to lose a kit of that cost daily or doesnt play 8h+ a day is at disadvantage. 2) It didnt fix the problem of people bringing a single legendary weapon to slam people 3) It erased from the game the green gear... who needs it if there is no gear bracket with only green cap
You all talk shit about this game but all the other extractions are terrible. Dad is like smoking crack and the others are just imitations of crack. It will never beat the real thing
i miss when items had actally some bit of value above vendor prices, especially gems and ores
Damn ur kind aright ngl, but the frost inferno extraction is ass
have you tried meff tho
Wait, since they changed entrance requirments, did they also change the number of class limited to a party?
does nightmare cavetroll have any different moves??
gems are worth much more than vendor. i think most legendary gems are 300 plus currently
It will do the overhead big slam twice sometimes. So just wait to see if it does it a second time before you run back in
Anybody on-line??
can i get uniques/artifacts only from boss/looting board or also from killing "normal" mobs
found the opposite of peak hours lmao 7.5 minute queue trying to get into legendary hr
Only artifacts from wyvern, lich, warlord and ghost king
give it up for ten minute queue!
so uniques can be dropped from every mob? thanks
uniques can drop from any boss, or gold chest/marvelous chest hitting gold piles etc. Never seen one on a trash mob body, its probably possible though
How is The expressman's cut calculated? is it just 1/4th of sell value?
15 minute queue
I'm not in oce or something I'm in us east what's the deal
are there really that few players up at this hour trying to go legendary hr?
17.5 minute queue
give it up for minute 20
day 15 give it up for day 15
oh I may have been queueing trios, and when I switched to solos it was instant
Anyone has tips on warlord clipping you sometimes with horizontal slash even when looking full down? I can avoid all his attacks except for this one that sometimes hits and sometimes doesnt, not sure what I'm doing wrong
they are literally 74g a piece wdym dude
you dont have to find another person to get a match in solos FYI, it puts you in right away no matter what
🚨 OFFICIAL PETITION TO 86 SDF FROM DARK AND DARKER DEV ROLE 🚨
We, the suffering citizens of the Dark and Darker community, do hereby unite under one sacred cause: removing SDF from the dev role before he nerfs our sanity into the abyss.
Never before has one developer wielded such mighty tools with such pitiful aim. Every patch note is a cryptic scroll of doom. Every balance change? A cosmic joke. Every update? A test of our patience, skill, and will to live.
We have tanked bugs, grinded through glitches, and endured the unholy terror that is SDF’s game design philosophy. But we draw the line here. Let the era of nerf-hammer tyranny end!
🛑 No more invisible mobs.
🛑 No more 20% slower movement "to encourage realism."
🛑 No more “experimental” ideas that belong in a cursed mod, not the main game.
🛑 No more SDF deciding the fate of our builds at 3AM with a single keystroke and zero QA.
It’s time for a new dawn. A patch free from madness. A dev team free from the clutches of chaotic-neutral design theory.
📢 SIGN BELOW AND RISE UP
86 SDF from the dev role.
Save Dark and Darker.
Make balance great again.
✊ #FreeThePatchNotes
✊ #NerfSDFNotPlayers
games so dead, if you disagree with this then you are contributing to the problem
I did find another, encountered too
ok but you dont have to, you can have the map to yourself.
would be funny but kinda boring tbh
nah its a dream to free farm, do it all the time
well I didn't say it wouldn't be effective!
your bordem would be sated when you start pulling bis drops from treasure piles
I'm sadly not good enough at bosses to bother trying but I believe it
have you tried warlock
just practice them in either normals or pve mode. They really arent that difficult tbh, it just takes a bit of time to learn them
Sdf vision 🧑🦯
too thoughtless for me as a longsword enjoyer (god I hope they buff longsword to pre-2h nerf values)
bosses aren't too difficult really. Even learning to longsword parry a boss wouldn't take too much practice.
🚨 OFFICIAL PETITION TO 86 SDF FROM DARK AND DARKER DEV ROLE 🚨
We, the suffering citizens of the Dark and Darker community, do hereby unite under one sacred cause: removing SDF from the dev role before he nerfs our sanity into the abyss.
Never before has one developer wielded such mighty tools with such pitiful aim. Every patch note is a cryptic scroll of doom. Every balance change? A cosmic joke. Every update? A test of our patience, skill, and will to live.
We have tanked bugs, grinded through glitches, and endured the unholy terror that is SDF’s game design philosophy. But we draw the line here. Let the era of nerf-hammer tyranny end!
🛑 No more invisible mobs.
🛑 No more 20% slower movement "to encourage realism."
🛑 No more “experimental” ideas that belong in a cursed mod, not the main game.
🛑 No more SDF deciding the fate of our builds at 3AM with a single keystroke and zero QA.
It’s time for a new dawn. A patch free from madness. A dev team free from the clutches of chaotic-neutral design theory.
📢 SIGN BELOW AND RISE UP
86 SDF from the dev role.
Save Dark and Darker.
Make balance great again.
✊ #FreeThePatchNotes
✊ #NerfSDFNotPlayers
(also I don't want to kill 8 men just to get got by the 10th party)
that's fair tbh, especially in solos there is always a rogue or 2 waiting for you
the chances of seeing 8 other ppl in solos right now is lower than the chances of getting an artefact in adventure mode
exaggeration is exaggeration
except its not tho tbh
but look at the bright side, if you kill the 8 people you will probably get better loot than boss
in common lobby you gets meds best case scenario lol
i get all my meds like that lol
0aint much but its honest work
as if people who rat bosses bring anything
barbs going to cyclops with a whole pharmacy
Well, getting 500 gold from a rat rogue vs getting -600 from ghost king
hello, im experiencing a bug with any character class and even after reinstalling the game. when i try to take my "4" item and then switch back to my "1" main weapon, it wont let me. it will keep on "4". the "1" is greyed out.
after dropping the weapon works again for a moment
they really gota fix this gamee
are lockpicks worth it to grind them?
it isnt even finished and if u ever played ark yk what a broken game is
they dont change anyting its the same shit sense alpha test
waht a waste of time to make this
ngl i think its crazy ive posted that like 10 times at least and nobodys ever even acknowledged it besides the mute i got the first time off gate
tooke 15seconds with ai @leaden peak
Please don't spam in game discussion, any spam is the tavern only, thank you.
mabye cus a game is hard to change?
when is it spam
?? wdym
when is it spam?
players are litterly telling the devs waht they want lol
Massive walls of text and also repeating it regardless of the timeframe, to get attention or to disrupt conversation.
why would they listen
that was far from massive, and what rule says that you cant say something "to get attention"?
ah oki AND PLEase make the time wait thingy 5 sec
seeee its sad
cus they make game
[5] - No spam or self-promotion anywhere outside the-tavern.
[1] - Be polite when communicating in our community, try not to create any conflicts.
also how can you call something spam reguardless of the timeframe when the meaning of spam is rapidly in quick succesion
where was i not polite at?
Its actually so cringe how much you neckbeards abuse your mod power in this disc lol.
mute inc cya guys
yeah but why would they listen to the community and the people like you when you are the brighest bag in the toolbox and have 100hrs
If there is an issue with moderation please contact a tavern master.
lowkey i want another wipe really soon with contentt they lost more then hath there player base and its mid wipe
Yo thats my friend and he posted that yesterday and got muted and appealed it and they said it was a wrongful mute. so wtf. why did you mute him 30 freaking minutes? what did he do exactly?
lol you wonder why this games dying, its because you mute/ban anyone who says their opinion
lol so quick to mute and quiet people but never quick to be accountable until you finish thinking of whatever bs reason you can to justify your mod abuse
i msis when we can pick our servers me so tierd of eu russian pepole
If there is an issue with moderation please contact a tavern master. 🙂
you are literally such a douch3bag, f u man.
id call you a cl0wn but, you know
i wish i could say the things i want to happen to you dave
I hope you have a nice day
goodguydave is IN FACT not a good guy.. there i said it 🤓
@mossy wing hes avoiding the automod mute him ?????
Relax, I've got this 🙂
i dont believe you
can i buy my kit back in pve mode
yes
fix WeaponMastery already IronMace, you keep f-ing it up, shit applies to Native weapons and idk if its visual or not
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not a thing
ragebaiting pos
you probably dont know which weapons are native to fighter you should look up in wiki
no you didn't
Bro I love continuous dungeon when I spawn and beeline breaking doors into troll room for the troll to be dead and entire pile looted 😂
literally cannot make this shit up
you could
This discord is deranged.
This is the looney house, the place where civilized people congregate are the class disscussions
is there a quest for armor scrap or something else i should use it for over selling it
I prefer insane
I see i see. So its kinda like how the helldivers discord has the armory elitists, or the WoW classic discords have class specific channels where intellectuals congregate
Thank you my hero 🙏
Please keep walls of spam and text to the tavern, thank you.
Yeaaa!! Get him!!! Wooo!!!
i just now got in game and spawned near 3 nightmare moobs is that still a thing ?
not to pve
yah man they where waiting for me at the front door lmao
insane how panther druid can hit you once and your whole class gets canceled, get that shite out of the game ffs
i have just 8...
Did they add the high value loot room for killing 2 bosses in ruins ? Like the room in goblins for killing cyclops and troll
somebody know when the season starts
Hot demigod finally yay 🥳
I believe so yes but Ive never gotten to see the inside. There's a room with two doors that only unlock if each boss is killed
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
How do people look at troll directly when he does slumbering big swing and not get hit in the head? I just tried it and i died instantly while swinging a torch
With uniques, it’s possible to build a barb with over 100% action speed?
hitbox manipulation; dodge
im crouching too and looking at him no idea how people dodge it without looking down using camera
such a bad game now... is wildly different from the beginning where loot mattered ( there was not 5 different gear bracket lobbys to break it up- if you ahd good gear you were top dog) and the circle that closed in and forced pvp, now its people running out of static reds and blues that open like 1 min into the game, and nothing but 330 MS running away kiting.. used to be longsword battles with clerics healing in the back ... the new meta is one shot bonk staffs now lol.. .no skill... no fun in that...
yo anyone else getting archers shooting 3 arrows at 1 time
Feature. Not a bug.
i mean shooting 3 arrows with 1 aint a feature they aint the nightmear ones
yes yes big brain move to hide bugs u smort u should get hired by EA
its a bug then
i rlly have no idea lmao
How’s the shape of the game atm I took a break for a couple months cause I was getting frustrated and wanna get back in
Anyone know when wipe is off the top of their head?
shit is in July
LOL
yo im tryna learn ghost king on pve. how the hell do i not die to the screams??? they do so much damage and it takes ages to heal and im playing barb!!
he only screams when he is damaged enough, theres a threshold before he screams again, so bursting dmg is not a good idea, take your time and take magic protection pots before he does scream
wait so how do i damage him without dying to his screams? are yuo saying i just kill him slower?
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