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Actually main ranger and warlock. Fighting Barbs every game in arenas though
Slow in solos is mad annoying to play around 
Did some cleric in the first 2 weeks with ssf running purification and farming gear/mob mats
Tbf after trying to learn sorc this wipe in solos I gave up lmfao. Most of the time if I dont have a duo/trio im playing pve farming or a diff game
Clerics so good rn monk dosent even need to happen ngl
You can dead ass punch people out on cleric and win it's monk from temu
Sorc is too hard for me too much to manage id rather just wiz
as a ranger if I can get a cleric to put up the heater and try to punch me it would be a good day
HEY HOW DO U FIX THIS STUTTER IN GAME. I CANT MOVE WITHOUT SPEED DEBUFF EVERY 2 SEC
What server
Have you updated drivers this year?
Not stuttering, but the crashes recently have been abysmal
FIX ROLL BACK
IRONY FACE 
#losethelawsuit
Fully up to date on amd drivers, had no issues start of season. Just last 2 patches. Last patch it was character swapping this one im crashing in game
Did you update windows
Yeah, up to date on windows 11
Ure net framework
net whatever?
Apparently they auto update with windows, so Im assuming so yeah
dead game
^
Sometimes I wish my lobbies weren't so freaking full. Having to deal with 5 diff teams at boss is cancer. I would gladly trade you my lobbies just so that I could try and get a named
Idk my laptop kinda shut and it's working fine except ruins
Im like 66 fps on ruins but over 100 other maps
Fps is not an issue, just random crashes. I mostly notice that its when I 'wake' up a mob or kill a mob
The complainers remind me of league of legends Lane players that auto blame jungle with "their jungler has been here 47 times and our jungle ganked once or zero" amirite
is areans everything back
yes and @devout brook Yeah I use steam
People are allowed to be upset with more cc in the game but we will figure it out
does cyclops precious mirror have a use?
It's a unique treasure that sells for 250 AP. Pretty good AP item if there isn't a use
damn i got in in norms not HR
love the Barb changes but Bardiche becoming an axe was questionable, full circle there
barb changes are just bardiche is axe and now blood exchange is playable? who cares lol im still 64-0 today in my 1v1s
the void is such a useless addition its insane. i complained back when it was released and now. people jumping in there to not give loot is insanely stupid. gold sink, nothing more.
what does sk mean in the trade outpost? is it skeleton key or whatever?
They are not actually, if the patch came out ten seconds ago and then up until now without reason/data/knowledge/education/etc
I just stole a static extract from a ranger with 2 fame in PvE in my gold runs, zero regrets
why did pelts and golden keys crash so much?
convinced the game is going down hill after Arc raiders and others come out. Tha player base is sick of the shit back and forth and the stupid Movement speed ads. The lobies need 3. Not FKN PVE, and 5 others. We need a starter lobby for under 50 hours. a Common, a 224 and a HR. thats it.
why do i constantly get put in empty lobbies in GC it makes no sense there are 16k players
Barb is so stupid lmao catching me with a bardiche in his hand while im at 316 ms
6+ queues does that
why are they killing the game
Did he catch you at 316 or did he catch you at 286 ๐
WHY ARE BARBARIANS IN FULL TUNICS FASTER THAN ME AS A SORC????????
Your not allowed to feel emotions it invalidates your opinion idc 
They have more movespeed
can u get skull key in normals??
WHERE ARE THE PLAYERS??? 3 MATCHES IN A ROW AND NO PLAYERS! WHOS IDEA WAS IT FOR HR TO BE ADVENTURE MODE??!
i play brotato 
crazy how people dont like 330 ms cleric 2 taps
316
guys what artifacts does lich drop?
Used to be a very very small chance from gk, lich, and warlord. But not sure anymore
whats the cyclops precious mirror? just treasure or craftable item?
guys i think its over time to cut our losses and play other games that make you wanna testicular torsion
which vender can u craft the cyclops vision crystal in?
Religion skin release
the one who sells other weapons
its beyond joever guys cant find random trios in ruins 24gs ๐ญ
Whats better, cooldown reduction or interaction?
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Please remove AI from Arena mode! Why would you think anyone wants that????
depends
SDF IS RUNNING THE ASYLUM SDF IS RUNNING THE ASYLUM SDF IS RUNNING THE ASYLUM @frigid remnant
w patch. game is fun and competetive. w iron mace
ฦart?
preach brother
cant wait until SDF finishes implementing his vision. game is getting better every patch / wipe
When will the in game achievements do anything? right now its just a banner that pops up. Nothing worth going for imo
Hopefully very soon, 0-24 only is so ass
someone pls help me take spectral knight
nerf daggers more
then play rares?
wtf is this dev's obsession with high movespeed high time to kill, bro this game's balancing wasnt too dawg shit (minus ranger traps) in the playtests where nearly everyone had like 300-310 movespeed MAXIMUM, everyone is walking around with +movespeed % on every piece, all attributes on every piece and 330 movespeed with two handed weapons/spellbooks out and a solid 2-3 second time to kill, i understand why some devs want to delete enchantments from the game, yeah this game was quite alright without them but you can have enchantments and not make them regardedly overpowered
why can u just not get armour rating on rubysilver curiass
caause rubysilver has pdr on it static
domb1edore if you are in here... shame on you for trying to team in hr... you got your just deserts and i vendored your gear
now we need to wait a whole ass 2 weeks again before they do anything about this stupid patch
So what ingots do people buy now when they want to put their gold into something to hold space. Something that stays same value?
anyone buying tokens to store gear and silly hahah
are there any cosmetics from completing quests given by the merchants?
So for solos, what's the go-to PvP map for high roller?
physical damage reduction not armour rating
What are you supposed to do in solos if youre not running barb or druid?
armour rating turns into pdr in your stats
Cleric getting nerf too it's flanged mace and morning star bad moved ๐ ๐ก cleric already struggling catch people with its horrible movement speed
does the recepient of a heal also scale the magical healing, or is it all based on the caster
run sorceror or ranger/rogue
hey lets keep buffing barb so sdf can win a fight
or does nobody know how exactly the magical healing scale works
only the caster
well no duh
follow up question, would a barb benefit from buff duration when getting healed by a cleric?
nerf barb nerf ranger buff rogue NERF druid buff fighter buff wizard
basically no point in using rubysilver if u can just get 15 ar on any piece of armour
not by a cleric no, but druid heals yes
i meant druid, ty :)
can i just ask... what actual genius... decided that savage roar would slow a player by 10%.... do the devs EVEN play the game......
yeah like what?
what u guys think of the gear score changes
i got outran by a barb as a RANGER
Yeah they play Barb
Hey is vault on crypts still looking like ritual room? I havent gotten vault to show up once in over 20 runs
seriously is it not just a totally stupid decision
they should play the weakest class in terms of everything to see what needs to be nerfed and buffed
No, they need to kick sdf out of thier founder group and get someone thats actually competent to balance the game
i mean.... PLAY WIZARD... IT THE LEAST REPRESENTED .... then tell me that a 10% move speed debuff is REMOTELY fair on top of the achillies... rage, 330 with weapon out GARBAGE that is rolling round right now
Please roll back to 124.
so why is panther like that? just the absolute most difficult shi to get away from.
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF GETTING WENDIGO HEART?
i mean.... when farming simulator 25 is outperforming your game... you need to start questioning your lead dev pretty harshly
guys is vault room and ritual room the same? Why can i never get vault room to show
I believe ritual room is the crypts boss room. Vault room is the gold pile room w/ the wraith and skeleton warlord
pdr?
Did they break something with barbarians? I just Lost to a Squire Kit Barb with pretty strong Smite/DP kit. Like I 2-3 shot most other classes but i barely tickled the barb who 2 shot me through DP and 30% gear PDR. Like i understand i lost 30% of my Physical dmage but i hit the man 3 time with smite and i barely did 50 damage (i Was in pretty much all base Will gear)
any idea what it looks like on the map?
the later is a really big circle room thats the size of like 4 rooms
@forest valve like boss room with small defined circle
wait, in the center of wheel?
if you're talking about gold pile's yea
im talking about the room labeled vault for the quest
@whole grove theres more than 1
true
@forest valve vault room questions me i say its the one with skeelton and wraith with down spot and gold pile
sent 2 pics of em in pms gl
Google dark and darker maps. Spells and guns will have all the rooms labeled for you
So true bestie
whats the difference of highroller 1 vs 2 beside the chance of artifact weapons? Better drop?
@glad thunder delete druid please ๐
delete @glad thunder please ๐
Lmfao
hey guys, i quit for the wipe but i gotta know, is it just barbarians running everyone over now?
They should throw up an ingame poll voting to see if they should fire sdf
well, its barbarians running... not really doing the running over tho
I sense an abuser lurking in the chat...
as in barbs are still unable to catch people with all of the move speed?
they still get outplayed
They still cant overcome thier 1 braincell stat
not sure how you really out play guy that can just run at you, eat all your damage, then two tap you for actually free
SERVERS down ?
by making him eat all your damage while he runs at you and proceeds to die
obv
no
so just gear diffing them? because when i ran barb pre buff it was entirely free to kill anyone but clerics and fighter fishermen

what happened to solos wont fight against 3 stacks in arenas? im constantly fighting streamer 3 stacks as a solo
can anyone explain why spectral fabric dropped 3k in price essentialy overnight? (was 4.3k last i checked now its 1.3k ๐)
@chrome ocean itโs because of religion everyone is selling everything for to get the skin
can i bring anything into arena or will i lose it
oh thank gosh it wasnt a nerf, ok so i can wait it out til it goes back up then, sweet... also wait theres a skin?
@chrome ocean yeah after donating 1000 scrolls
Whats the skin?
was there a dup exploit or something? why has the market crashed
nightmare frost skele
oh. how much is 1k scrolls? and is the skin worth it... 100k!?!? ๐
100k
in a way, sure, if youre never going to spend red shards and want to conserve blue
oh sick ty
How tall feeling about the new gear change?
i see
anyone else getting black screen forcing u to restart game?
so why did I die in PVE and not get my kit back from goblins?
did the 15 mins of the map end? also someone could have looted it off you
yea even in pve u can still get looted no?
cant loot others in PVE there were no blues left with 2 mins in sub ice cavern
by your teammates
to avoid this you disconnect before they touch your body
otherwise they can drop your gear for other players and you wont get it back
ah
I was solo its almost 35 minutes since I had 2 uniques on me i stg
damn
how'd you die?
was it PvE mode or you just died to pve?
waited time in PVE
What's the best class to farm some good items in white gear bracket? Im between druid and rogue because they can avoid fights, lol.
Anyone got some YouTube guide specially for those two classes?
there were no ropes or portals left so i just sat until i died
bard one of the best bossing classes if thats what you want to do in commons
warlock is also crazy right
slower boss kills but really good add clear
Where can we find diaryofthe toz
im pretty new to dark and darker so i aint even try any bosses yet other than like the wyvern once
Why play wiz when thereโs sorc
chat i just beat wyvern as a solo warlock for the first time. it took me like 30 attempts LOL! lets GOO!
I was thinking of just looting chests and stuff at first. Can't kill bosses yet ๐.
Are rogues kinda good on white gear?
if ur lootign chests go barb
Good thinking! I'm going to make one.
druid can also loot chests quick tho i think, if your going into pve id say barb and druid if pvp so you can run with panther
Yeah. Druid was my first choice. Started one today but still need to learn how to play
sadly they nerfed it in the upd
Thanks for the input ๐
idk how to use it after the nerf but pre nerf you could just solo most things
Sorry but that takes 0 skill when doing as a warlock. Do it with fighter in 30 tries and I'll be impressed
let bro be proud ๐
Alright just this once tho ๐
@sterile anvil this guy is a robot maybe
Yes make more Ques iron mace. Yes split the playerbase thats dying even more. Yes more dead lobbies or the same 2 people over and over. Yes yes game has a mega bright future. How are you guys this clueless its beyond repair at this point. GG
@barren ingot bro they probably had a suite in an evergrande high rise..
@barren ingot i doubt they make it to work but once a week


How much is the nightmare frost skele skin cost in gold?
100k I believe
100k
The line is dwindling every single day. Its so sad to see that they are just killing this master piece of a game with every update. Truly a sad sight
@queen dagger you were saying
Your a mod
What did you not like about this recent update?
Them adding ANOTHER que is enough for me to hate the whole update. Also barb buff, why? dont get me started on druid either, its just a complete mess and i play both those classes
So proud of you big boy
Barb buff was more than needed, I've been watching pete's streams since 2 weeks now and he got obliterated in every single match by every single other class no matter how good he played, 2 hit by druid 2 hit by cleric and 3 hit by rogue as a barbarian. And he need to hit a guy 7 times for him to die
are they ever gonna nerf the lightning storm cringe or no
Cleric is all I see now. Cleric cleric cleric
Yeah they forgot to nerf cleric again somehow
nothing to do with the class itself. Thats called gear checking and when it comes to trios all balance is out the window
He's playing solos with good equipment stacking 60% physical power bonus
idk let me ask sdf rq
so hes playing full glass cannon with no MDR or PDR gotcha
Yeah and he need 7 hits to kill a rogue?
i highly doubt that champion
Brother I'll send you some clips later
Hey it was my first time ever killing it lol impressive by my standards. As a warlock it prolly is easiest, druid next so? As a fighter would take forever though is that even possible on squire gear?,
what weapon he using? His fists?
kinda a cringe response
the fact he said kill it in 30 tries and ill be impressed tells me hes a bot
This patch is so sad... sdf asleep at the wheel
how do I find the Dark Magic Library at the Castle Ruins?
why has the market gone to shit again?
bro this whole game is sad
its in the second level of ruins, gotta go down a red staircase to get into castle. Look on the map on the wiki and see if the library tile is there
same reason as last wipe
religion
ooh I'll give that a try! Thanks and wish me luck ๐
oh right i forgot about that
spellsandguns has a bunch of the tiles (albeit not all of them since the "random map" changes) but you can go there and get a good look at their names and some still mostly useful info from them
I found the site, very useful!
anyone else getting black screen forcing u to restart game?
why play wiz or sorc when you have ranger ๐
why play ranger when you have fighter
also true
is anyone else experiencing unbelievable amounts of lag lately
does goblin merchant not return items if you die in pve void
@dim copper servers are on venus, everyone lags
we are running in circles for months, no new meaningful content just awful โbalancingโ of Druid and cleric every f*cing patch, just reverse to the previous version where most people were satisfied and start adding content its all taking to long people losing interest in game, dont let it die you monkeys
where find human remains?
only because of auto server select forcing me to play with chinese/russians
game tries to optimize for their shit latency/etc
FALCHION OUTRANGES LONGSWORD NICE GAME
only because of drag
I found the Dark Magic Library ๐
im quitting until barb gets a nerf... ALL DAY im getting killed by barbs that are faster than me, this game is a joke now
@frigid sleet what everyone wants a barb to be vs. what devs do is a joke. they just need the player pool to reduce to the point they can pull it off steam market with a profit
@frigid sleet this game gonna be in and out quits for couple more years considering the dev pool
Just sell the game to a real game Company.
They said they want to be more transparent but every information we need to find in a random twitch chat after ~2 weeks of Radio silence
First y4mi now Vincent which is next onepeg?
@vital pagoda prob not a profit given the current sitation
what happened with y4mi and vincent?
Sdf leaked Infos to the next Patch but radio silence on this discord
good night dreamers
I think that's the thing the most frustrating to me :/
Like I don't care about most of the stuff, but communication is key. And he just goes on some random stream to say patch stuff instead of using the game official website or discord :/
Does anyone know how or where to find human remains?
Is it not the skeleton laying on the floor?
Thought it was some kind of boss drop bruh
Anyone else getting a leaving penalty in arena after a match ended?
No idea, never heard of it so just assuming.
Yes because they made an official stream saying, they want to be more transparent about their actions but after that stream Radio silence
Just dont leave to fast
do i need wolf claws for a quest
why not learn to play barb and be the barb that over kills?
are longsword counterattacks bugged im doing something wrong ? lol
you just arent playing barbarian buddy
left on the stat screen tho.. Couldn't have left any later
now it worked when i talked nvm
The ghost king scream deals us the 50% life of my entire team squad (With 0 curses stacks) the damage is changed? or was bugged?
Like two whole weeks without any official communication is unbelievable
Changed work as intended
why cleric catching strays? they keep nerfing cleric and relegating to only 1 viable playstyle. theyve even started nerfing clerics best weapons. cleric even has less options for ranged combat than barbarian.
i just got a legendary in pve, how?
wat
i take back all the bad things i said about this patch
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i got it from a red skele
so like not even a boss, maybe only red monsters have a crazy low chance to get drop them?
Is market going to go back up?
Is market going to go back up? Fabrics which were worth 16k last season but right now they are under 1k
anyone know where to find the human remains item?
the cyclops mirror makes me sad. it says small mirror, i wonder if it had a goblin friend that died
They nerfed my longsword into the ground this wipe and make barb opโฆ time to run around screaming

a lot of people are dumping gold into religion, gotta wait for it to settle down and prices might go back up
5mins for ice cavern
where the ppl at?
SDF sucking off Grayun game is dead LOL
I didn't intend to shit on cleric i just wanted to say they are delusional and use all the focus on "balancing" primary those 2 classes one into oblivion and one into cancer, and that happens for months now, they should just fucking stop and start dealing with real problems this game has, marketing, adding promised content that they postpone every time on the new season, and start getting transparent and hearing on the community like they said, his vision is trash and i don't know what he is smoking because this shit garbage.
Devs sucking eachother off is more important than setting the game right. Balance = SDF sucking off Graysun xD
I don't know which hotfix it was but i know people liked it and it got positive feedback and next patch they again fucked everything up, IF IT WORKS LET IT FOR FUCK SAKE
Devs sucking eachother off is more important than setting the game right. Balance = SDF sucking off Graysun xD
How are people feeling about the gear bracket changes whatโs the word around here
what does cave troll's precious rock do. or what does the human remains do?
yo 10mins for ice cavern
servers are trash and laggy
Devs sucking eachother off is more important than setting the game right. Balance = SDF sucking off Graysun xD
What does that have to do with my question
Not good everyone liked the 25-124 Brackets Most
He just sharing his dreams with you
The max gear score you could potentially get to now is around 334 for rare bracket and 444 for purple bracket it seems kinda off to me
??? The devs are sucking eachother off how does that not have to do with question?
Wrong They Suck Themselves off each one in his own corner
wow, took a couple season break cause druid oneshotting in HR 0 counterplay and then them removing loot (XD), now i come back and goblin caves is a massive shit 5x5 map, i find one person every second map and the exits spawn 3 mins in so half the lobby is gone at 10mins remaining. gg ironhammer
FACTSSS!!!! These cluesless devs xD
yo how long does it take to get 1000 seals? for the skeleton skin?
also nice pve gamemode!!!! great release there! the pve in this game has a lot of replayability and engagement im sure pve'ers wont get bored and quit all the while pvp queues are getting players siphoned
atleast your finding fights lol, where tf do i even goto pvp now
SDF and Graysun are sad the game is dead xD and they owe millions 
You can theoretically get pretty close to arena bis in โ124โ lobbies now
Me and my buddies were running pretty crazy kits yesterday
We were over 300 gear score and tbh it felt exceedingly unbalanced
How is a new player supposed to get into the game now with 0-24 being literally squire kit and the next step up having potentially giga bissed players that will just stat check them
watch for panther druids camping wyvern walls tho LOL so fun
someone spare a sk ๐ญ
They aren't
Grind and Suffer is the game of the name for them
PVE Could be so much better if there wouldn't be continious Dungeon, its like you go into a wallmart for black friday and everything is robbed the fuck out
idk if this is sarcasm because pve got like 6 of my friends playing and weโre still having a blast ๐ญ
why tf did they do this to barb ๐ฆ
Because SDF's Dealer Is Lacing Him With Crack
Luck gear? And did u double check if its pve
yeah i made sure it was pve before and after and 0 luck gear
Has any1 pulled a artifact from the new troll?
to play arena i just need to buy a kit off the market and meds?
You'll do better if you have your team on voip but technically yes.
i just meant like gear wise, but yeah thank you
Heyyy
Hey, whats up Softie?
Hey I'm neww
Well welcome to the dungeon, good luck and don't get killed!
do the potions/consumables come back in arena?
No, if you didn't find it/craft it you lose it.
Purchased gear either from the market or from the vendor is lost.
I guess I don't know if crafted potions come back but I would assume no.
its not. if you dont play the game currently then dont try and tell people whats happening
I don't have this game yet
but you dont gain anything you just lose ?
Did they change that for this season?
you play arena for fun/skins at the end of the wipe, thats your "gains"
Hi all, i'm new here and to Dark and Darker. How cooked am i as a warlock? Any beginner tips? Tyy
ah so you havent played the game in a while then. still. dont spread miss info when you clearly dont even play the game :)
can you still get bag/chest from pve horde?
I literally do?
what type of warlock? @balmy cedar if you really did you wouldnt be spreading that you lose stuff after a loss in arena :)
Shrug That was the case up until recently. Hell, it's still even listed on the wiki.
https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Arena
Uh i play with curse mastery vampirism and i think the 10% dmg buff, being lv 17
bro? ๐ญ
do you need a nap or smth
the wiki isnt up to date on alot of things :) dont just go off of what you see online :) @hazy pulsar just learn the ranges of your curses properly and learn to properly kite
Doing lots of spells and dying while learning haha
As warlock you practically need the perk torture mastery, it heals you for 2 health every time your curses deal damage which means that curses will start healing you instead of taking from your health
you assumed things about him with no reasonable evidence ๐ฅ
do not be a phallic object
you dont really need torture mastery. its good but theres builds that dont use it
CaN SOMEONE HELP ME DEFEaT Warlord ?
Try to keep your movement speed high, especially if you're playing in solos. If you encounter another player you want to keep them spaced so they can't force you to commit, since your curses heal you you have a really strong short range poke.
Be wary of rangers especially in large rooms since they can pretty easily out range you. Focus on true magic damage for your rings/necklace if you find it. Spellbooks are still the bast casting implement when casting.
When casting at a player chasing you make sure you look away while casting the spell then spin and hit them with it, you move slower while moving backwards.
I mean, the kind of advice you can benefit from really depends on your current skill level.
cant. too busy shooting people in arena to help you DEFEaT warlord
I can think of some melee only builds but he's playing caster
bufflock
i wanna suggest running longsword and spellbook and learning the longsword! at the start (when i first started playing) i died so many times, itโs just more fun to treat it as the early gameloop because itโs the most enjoyment iโve had dying in a game tbh
You can also siphon off of your hydra if you're pushing for pure magic damage as well.
oh
oh and @hazy pulsar i main warlock, he is an extremely fun and beginner friendly caster class (in my opinion)
but at the same time, it might be worth learning a sword/shield fighter first?
Can warlocks please be moved to a seperate arena queue against their own class, ty.
doing my part by not enjoying arena ๐
Yeah, I tend to avoid arena. It's really not my cup of tea.
warlocks in arena are easy to kill lol
ok but for real where tf is the high roller pvp at, i go to ruins and everyone runs down red gates that are open with 10 mins remaining? crypts same thing XD and inferno had 2 people in budget gear clearing trash, ice cave they just run down stairs too
rampage!!
are you good at killing bosses n stuff?
its all in arena
I'm okay at troll and cyclops and I can do lich with some success but not particularly.
how would you suggest learning to kill my first boss solo? never killed one
look up ryan6daysaweek for full in depth guides
i miss old goblin caves so much, why would they make it into another generic 5x5 map where no pvp happens
thank you ๐
is this like notetaking stuff or is it fairly straightforward
Cyclops and troll are the easiest. You're going to have to throw yourself at them a bunch of times to learn the patterns. You can watch guides online and they'll show you the attacks/how to dodge them. It takes some practice to actually put that into practice though.
all versions of gc are ass. that map is just bad
np np as a former knight i like to help
cheers alot both of you <3
Welcome @untold atlas !
solo gc was the such a good pvp map, only thing that ruined it was druids having too many op spots like ratting down elevator in mid, and chicken jumping up cave troll room
nah. solos should be removed
shit laggy asf
Sup. Still a way to get twitch drops? Was away for long.
Tyโค๏ธ โค๏ธ โค๏ธ
A lot of people play solo, why should they be removed @fervent anvil ?
i only play solos... trios is as trash as solos, duos probably the best mode tbh
this sounds silly but could you please explain why you think so?
It's a coop game?
Yeah, you can play with a total of three people.
the game isnt designed to be played solo.
Honestly? Solos are better than trios.
i mean ur not wrong, but trio gameplay looks really trash too and thats the intended mode xd
what would you suggest as a solution to the people that prefer solo playstyles?
find friends
what if they prefer playing solo?
Ohhh so that why we have here groups of 3 ppls in vc
then learn to 1v3 or go play a solo game
I think youโre a little blinded by your own perspective
Yeah. You'll be matched with a similar sized group of players so it's pretty easy to pick up and play alone or with a group.
a trios game. should be only trios
Duos is the best mode. Trios should be removed and Duo's should be the cap. The hallways aren't big enough for a trio anyways. /s
gonna have to agree to disagree on this one ๐
Solos aren't going anywhere and are still extremely popular for a reason.
100%, itโs pretty necessary with how popular it is, it feels like everyone who doesnโt play solos doesnโt try to consider other perspectives
this is coming from someone who rarely plays solos
Yeah, I don't think Dark and Darker would work without solos. Akay is right, the game was originally designed around trios but it's come a long ways since then.
can someone PLEASE help me find the emote that makes you let out a shout? im looking everywhere for it and cant find it
ive had the same 2 guys teaming in solos for 5 games in a row
You can report them from the death cam.
how the fuck are they still not banned
high roller or not high roller?
hr ofc they are legit que sniping eachother and doing boss toghter fucking pussys
barb and a cleric
good bye trash game, pve lootbox opening simulator, pre teaming still rampant too, map is cooked, walking down stairs at 10 mins is fked, i thought the game already fucking sucked when i quit, how did u make it fucking worse, trash devs
Why though, i can play sword and shield and learn how to use spells with warlock, whereas the melee class only offer melee skills?
Warlock can teach you some bad habits like "It's okay to face tank mobs." Fighter will beat that out of you pretty quickly while still teaching you to use the longsword.
Warlocks self heals mean you can avoid picking up certain skills and still be alright. Ultimately though play what you'll have fun with, you'll learn more by spending more time in the dungeon and you'll spend more time in the dungeon when you're having fun with your class.
Fair enough, but i do have some game sense, and looked up some beginner guide stuff, so i got the basics for melee fighting, just need more practice with it tbh
Oh, and then there's some cheese like Hydra + Hellfire. Or Phantomize + Firewalk that can be used to clear mobs that you can become reliant on rather than learning how to fight them.
When did the current season start btw? Most recent guides-ish are from about a month ago? Is that still fairly applicable? (Coming from games with frequent big changes)
Oh you can play sword and shield as warlock! My bad, yeah thatโs a good idea :)
shield is a bad habit against barbs (unless lantern) and barbs are FOTM rn
Last patch totally changed up the meta particularly for barbs. Anything from more than a few days ago isn't necessarily applicable. Everyone else has been reasonably consistent though. The season started about a month ago, you're fairly early into it.
Cool!
YOU GUYS, DEATH SKULLS HAVE NO GAG REFLEX
You're the reason the dungeon was built. Go to your corner.
likewise, Adventurer

I wonder how long it'll take for Barbs to get hit by the nerf bat. Will we have to wait the usual patch cycle or will something be hot patched early next week?
it used to be my main and they decided to bring back squires with its buff
incoming sweaty ass mordhau/chiv dork roaming common lobbies
surely it wont be long now...
its 1 shotting pretty much everything except fighters
Yeah, I don't think there's much debate on them being pretty oppressive right now.
@IRONMACE PLS more buff barbarian give barbarian 350 ms
Barbs steamrolled common lobby minmaxing with legendary vk anyways, at least they're back into the game in higher gs now, maybe too much though ๐คทโโ๏ธ IM balancing
so I've had some green gems up for sale in the market for a couple days, is it not worth it? should I just delist them and sell them to merchants?
It doesn't make much sense to replace the random effect on a green item when you can just buy the item that has the effect you want with a higher roll than the gem can give. Blue gems and better have value though.
so what about all these golden teeth I've randomly gained and tried to sell now that grimsmile takes more of them to craft?
They sell on the market for ~60-70g a stack right now. Well worth the single slot to bring out.
Since they're consumable and fungible you can sell them quick if you undercut the market. They wont eat up a market slot for long.
Hey any one els got reroll on shared stash and lvls of charc?
And if any one who that happend to him got items back ?
Do you mean the wipe that happened a month ago?
No after the last update I got in to find it out
Well get in contact with the support then.
wiz needs more arcane spells. how about a piercing arcane bolt similar to lich's small projectile or a blink?
Already sent an bug report but didnโt got answer yet
Only thing i don't like is the map randomizer lmaoo i hate having to look to see where im going, would much rather remember where the fuck im going
After 2 years it gets pretty boring tbh
Even then, after two years you think there would be more maps in general but here we are lol
Oh 100% lmao
with the current system they can keep adding new rooms which I hope they will do
They should put the map shroud back so we have to explore again
i dont want more rooms to be added. take these "new rooms" and MAKE A NEW MAP lmaoo
new map would be cool but at some point they will have to take maps out cause of queue time problems. but imagine if this game had as many room layouts as an actual roguelike I don't think I would need many maps at that point if they are different every time
I hate the random map more than absolutely ANY type of class PVP cheese you can think of LMAO.
to put it bluntly. Bigger maps would be great if i could remember where the fuck i am, y'know? lmao i've been trying to get a quest done and the tile i need hasnt spawned in for me in 3 hours
Random map was a huge improvement honestly, I liked it more when it was covered in a fog of war. It was the best solution to spawn rushing.
Yeah, the "Explore this tile" quests need to be reworked. They work in a static map like EFT but they don't work very well in randomly generated maps like DaD uses.
the fog made it somewhat playable lmao but even then, its beyond hatred for randomizers
honestly I don't know why those quests still exist with random layouts. if they keep adding new rooms they will have to remove those
Agreed, lmao why no challenge reworks is a big one
They could have made some sense if they were used as a tutorialized way to encourage players to explore certain important tiles but they're pretty useless and a little annoying as it currently stands.
But yea like the randomizer for maps..... i thought i'd randomly drop my opinion in the cord LMAO
On a side note, i am enjoying everything else LMAO game feels like its in a good state for PvP and PvE, but yea i digress that my only flaw seen is the random shit map luck i've had LMAO
true. boss room quest makes sense for example since those are guaranteed to spawn
they should add search and destroy in this game tbh this game sucks because it doesnโt have search and destroy
well, I finally managed to get my wolf kills, only had to log in at 1 AM to have a chance with all the pelt farmers on at any other time. Still don't have a looted blue eyeball for the other quest tho...
Ctf would go hard
i was jokin but ctf would actually be alright
i fw that idea
I'm surprised they didn't think to add it tbh, would be more fun than current arena
it would, a respawn ctf mode would be really interesting
but make it 10v10
5v5 would be good, idk about 10v10 lol
I was thinkin 5v5, 10v10 would be better as a non-respawn
Imagine trying to fight a 5v5 in a narrow hallway. All you'd be able to hear is piercing shrill over and over again.
oh god the amount of friendly fire and uncoordinated screeching a 10v10 game mode would have
Just make it so the dude carrying the flag can't cast/use skills and abilities and I think it could work
but if its respawn thatโd encourage ppl tryna be sneaky, rogues going around to snatch the flag and whatnot
also chefeus idea above is smart asf
yeah I was joking it would be pure chaos but it would be fun xD
It's such a simple concept though, like they get paid to be game devs but current arena is ass and there's soo many better options
iโd like a boss training thing but i 100% understand why that may not be the best idea
thats how overwatch did it cause lucio kept wallriding away with the flag. druid would do the same thing basically
anyone have abnormal connection?
Ya exactly, it stops druids, sorcs tp, even Warlock phatomize, you let them still be able to be buffed/healed, respawn timer of some sort, would just be the maps because I'm not sure 1 module would be big enough, and doors would create an issue I think. I reckon you could make an awesome game mode though
it would have to be a symmetrical map if they want to be lazy about it they could just duplicate and mirror one module to make 1x2 map. and I agree that could be a really fun mode ^^
everyone min/maxng now in blue lobbys its become very sweaty for casual players..... zzzzzzzzzzzzz
See there's even a lazy option to make it work lol let's hope they see this and consider it but I ain't getting my hopes up lol
PUT A COOLDOWN ON THE WARLOCK CURSE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
this game is just gonna suck without rocket launchers tbh
holy fuck this shit is actually dumb af why dose every one get to have move speed so easy and barbs just get to slow you and 2 hit you
@glad thunder what the hell is this patch you can't be serious that this is what you think "balance" is do you ?
The best class is probaby barbarian cuz its one of the simplest class and the best. I played many classes but playing other classes than barbarian isnt that fun
i feel polar opposite tbh, barb is the one class i canโt enjoy but itโs good that you enjoy it ๐
is it the simplicity you enjoy?
Maybe but i also like melee fight. And even if i play many song on bard bard still bad
does goblin recover stuff if you fall into the void in abyss?
I also like playing with my friend who play barb cuz he destor doors and we run around map and kill people
Just run through every module in pve for that quest.. whatโs the issue
Have you tried weapons like the longsword?
are you dense?
Nuh uh. Yeah i tried longsword but i still prefer battle axe
Thatโs fair ๐
I canโt get off the longsword
With long sword you just block and wait until someone attack you and parry
Where should I go to find gold ores?
We need an update for having to summon bosses in HR and just to be griefed by other players afterwards
Alot of people do but i find that puts people in a weak position so I often avoid that
When thry block i just use right atack
you really shouldn't try to block too hard with longsword
sometimes you can get too focused on parrying and end up losing a fight that you could have won by just trading hits normally
Good idea, but just be wary of those that are better than that with a longsword!!
I have very good tactics agains it
glad to hear :)
are you in oce?
Idk what that mean
Are artifact drops for Wyvern fixed btw? anybody know?
I Dont dragon
Having to spend 4k to attempt the dragon, I wouldnโt know
ok what the hell is the auto server doing I'm trying to do arena and it put me in a chinese server on the OTHER SIDE OF THE PLANET cause they all speak chineses any type chinese and I've got 2 seconds delay on everything
ik lol. thats why I wanna figure it out before I start farming
Just gonna get griefed by another player after spending 4k
Itโs a kind of cheesecake
get rid of the boss spawners shit is just minimizing the amount of players who can experience the end game content raids are dead everyone sitting in the dark on a door waiting to third party your 2-4k item Zzz
I dont cheesecakes i prefer other food
what is with people falling asleep mid yap
Cheesecake r mid
queue up a +225 lobby see how long u can stay awake and not get bored
is there no pvp?
There is maybe 1 team in your dungeon if you're lucky and they are sitting in the dark behind a door waiting to grief your boss
That sounds amazing.
imma keep hiding in my pve hidey hole
does anyone know what cyclops precious mirror do?
it's sweet bro they wait until ghost king screams or wait until lich circle and then you just insta die to a crossbow or something the game is so fried with the spawner
It's easier to not care about some kid just shooting at you from the door to boss when the spawner doesn't cost 2000 gold depressing af
if you were a dev, how would you solve this?
Id add monk
Exactly
No idea how to fix getting thirded at boss but the spawner was not the route in my opinion. It was fine before the change
what is the monk meant to do?
like compared to other classes because i hear about it and it sounds boring but ionno
do they listen to community feedback?
Add rock as weapon
I agree with this.
caveman role
Me caveman role?
Bring back fog in next season
Once you use the summon item doors and pathways should be locked. Nobody should be able to enter until the boss dies or the player dies.
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GUYS
how much to sell gold coin chest for?????????
Its probably multiple skull keys but it's worth keeping mate it's the best item ever to have
Keep it
like an investment???
Like a item
im a lil broke i could use the money twin
would vpning to OCE be bannable? i see a ton of Chinese names on us servers so its obviously common
What shirt?
Punch kick merchant
So been playing a Caster/TM lock. Never did any bossing (minus cyclops). Is hellfire still fastest/easiest way or should i just learn how to do them with my longsword. Saw alot of vids that just show hellfire spam but i also read that they nerfed damage helffire did to bosses
Yeah im in the same boat as you. Unsure what to do with it since they gutted magic power
hello @everyone is there dungeon recovery currently enabled for HighRoller?
no
str or phys power?
movespeed
im on pve rn so movespeed dont matter
the game is in the worst state it has ever been in my 3,7k hours
๐ค agreed 3.6 hours Warlock
Fr, bring back rogue pick pocket meta
how to get money refund after 100h, archer class just make me dont want play anymore this shit game, FPS dungeon crawler
did you play hotfix 68?
last message ment to rply to you cause in my time that was the only time worst than this
yes game feels same unfun like patch#68 and we need a revert like there
IDK when they swapped all gear to same stats mid season and ruined alot of ppl kits then reswaped stats back and rando rolls was pretty bad
yeah the crazy amount of move speed is to much imo, for the rogue nerf is like ok... how about you give them something else to compensate for the damage and the indirect ms nerf and the sheer amount of barb buffs is psychotic
Yes
i simply dont have fun atm and the game brought me most of the time insane fun
at least there isnt quite as much cleric bonkers w keying you ( cause all those players move to the new best thing aka barb)
why golden keys are so cheap ๐ฎ
hellfire is a good way if you are just starting out it can help you understand boss attack patterns but learning longsword will make you faster
why tf did barb need a buff
hey needed like 1 or 2 things that they got not the 15
now my games are full of barbs again
ironmace have to be trolling at this point there is no way they were serious with this update
yeah with how easy it is to get movespeed no one can run away
Listen you just have to trust the plan, Ironmace needs to do the same test they've done six times before dude you just don't understand are you even a gamedev
The success of this game at this point is genuinely only a thing because every single competitor shoots themselves in the head within 6 months
Honestly Iv played ark enough that I dont understand the complaints with this game, ark devs make ironmace look like gods
jesus christ how is rare normal still broken.. how is that not something you test before launching an update too
theres nothing to complain abt ark unless if its on official
Does Ironmace know what they are doing?
why would they
Idk because the game has alot of players and stuff
Guys can I do anything with the Cyclops rag
that doesn't mean they know what they're doing
if anything they ' overdo it ' with this being their only baby
Wdym they over do it
a game that needs 84 hotfixes is going to need another 84
Make barb: char selection screen says downsides are it's slow. Meanwhile it runs at 330 and makes everyone else slower than them
Why ironmace do this
I go into the 2nd tier high roller for the first time and I see a 3 way team after I leave ๐
Wear it
Anyone else thinks that the stuff the cockatrice brings is not worth the effort or costs for the quest ?
go touch some grass dude
same 2k hour bard.
It's alright buddy, we get it, you ate lead paint chips as a kid
What does manuscript of the warlord do and where do i find it?
Ghost King scream does like 70% hp per scream now? Was that a mistake and they reverted it back?
45%
I just fought it and it screamed and took a ranger and rogue down to 30% hp
Cleric dropped to about 40% ish and we had no stacks
@edgy thorn that's normal
anyone elese not able to enter dungeon cause its saying you have something over the rarity limit when you don't?
yeah for a piece of shit
Chck your bandages and pots or pickaxe
do ppl even play the game? i encounter like 1 group every 5 dungeons (artifacts limit), do ppl just play epics max?
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No idea how I @you
but there is no reason to be rude.
i did everything is green and blue
XENOFOBIC IRONMACE I STILL CANT CHANGE SERVER DUDE I AM NOT BRASILIAN WHY I AM FORCED TO PLAY 200 PING WITH THE MONKEES I DONT LIKE CLIMB ON TREES TO EAT A FUCKIN COCONUT I JUST WANT TO CAST A SPELL WITHOUT TELEPORTING TO EVERY CORNER ON THE ROOM
Can't go in normal common tier, have to go into rare common dungeon
thats what im qeueing for
lul swapped to the normal than back to rare and it fixed
anyone playing on stretched resolution?
No, why would you
low fps
calling the game a piece of shit, not you. though i understand how you can be confused by that
Anybody else having hitbox issues when turning in animal form?
My druid firend just got killed as he turned into rat form, because the game was still registering his human form hitbox
that's normal, because the game is a pos
also panther form strike after jump failed to silence twice in a row
Probably got hit right before transform or had a ticking dmg effect
there are many hitbox issues, yes
๐คฃ๐
from the kill cam thoough he is clearly already in rat and is not on the path of the hitting blade at all
but killcam is also not reliable so who knows :/
dad laggin or is it me
Ya killcam is always bugged
can i bring any gear in arena?
Nerfing Wizard Staff magical power and buffing nearly all Barb weapons and their class is genuinely astounding, I really want to see the decision making process and what stats they're looking at from a dev standpoint to sit there and say ' yes, Wizards are dominating lobbies on a significant level where as Barbarians are not. '
question about the dragon's wind tunnel exit, is it limited or unlimited uses?
its because the game is balanced around trios, make 3 barbarians, problem solved
When will we get server select back? I'm forced onto Singapore servers even though I have the same ping to EU, and all my matches are empty
id rather empty matches at this point solos are aids bc anyone that knows the spawns spawn in and rush straight to u havent been able to leave a room in the 5 matches ive played bc im just getting thirsted by warlocks and wizards
I literally can't play the game, like I'm playing oblivion PvE, there are no players
this is mainly in HR
did the game die why is it taking so long to get a match?
Game balance trios
Heard this many times
Yet Warlock and Rogue are not buffed even tho they are terrible in trios
because of pus vs environment
I mean before this patch wizard staff were waaay more dangerous (in HR I mean) than barb. Tbs that is not an excuse for this terrible patch
nobody wants to play against a buffed barb and druid
just make 3 barbarians, problem fixed
I dont really care about balance, I just want to play the game and not have to kill new players
LOL, genuinely though like if anyone was going to make a point I'd get the idea behind ' it's based around 3's ' and even then, I'd think of like, I wish we could see which game mode was played the most, but genuinely the buff to barb just seems like A LOT, and maybe I'm critical on the Wizard nerf because when were any of their spells last updated, abilities updated, etc
Me 2, but I care about balance
how much can i get for bardic pants unique with 200 luck
I just literally can't find players, like the dungeon is empty, I wish I could VPN or something to Germany but it doesnt work for some reason
around 10k
That does make sense, and I really can't speak to it considering I haven't been playing in HR, but what you're saying does make sense and I also agree with the latter
same issue here, one group per 5 dungeons, no matter the map
Dang, unfortunate, I also can't play with my friend in the US because the game server selects either signapore (terrible for friend) or US east (terrible for me), but we both have ok ping to EU, so I lost my duo too ๐ฆ
its unbalanced artound trios, so make 3 barbarians for maximum of unbalancing
14k people playing right now and no one can find anyone in dungeons, it's crazy how wonky these dungeons are being filled right now, if only we had community coordinators that interacted with the community and was our voice to the devs or something
I think its because there are 5 queues + arena
i mean ppl just run pve non stop i guess, no one playing high rollers
- 6 servers * 3 maps = 90 queues, so yeah idk, I really like the game but I haven't been playing after the server select changes, and now that druid got nerfed I wanted to hop back on and see
I feel as though server select should still be enabled, you just shouldn't be able to pick servers that are like > 200 ping
Holy smoke I 4v1 and won! Wow. 1 wizard, 1 rogue. 1 fighter, 1 barb vs 1 fighter me.
Which stat should I increase for health?
Would be cool if PvE was either solo queue as in no one else is on the map but you or you can queue with friends. But also mobs dont drop anything over like uncommon quality. Or PvE mode you can just select the bosses/mobs you want to practice and they don't drop any loot.
do more ppl just play high rollers with epic gear max or what?
cuz like yeah its 3pm and its hard to find someone and after 8-10pm u can just farm bosses non stop cuz there are no ppl at all, literally
why the quest suck so much in this game
vigor
can sqaure minecraft blocks mob hitboxes ever be fixed? its so annoying
What would you all say is the strongest top 2 Trio comps for purple HR?
Are you ass or good at this game
Thanks. What does Strength do?
physical dmg and a bit of hp too, but less than vigor
you can hover over the stat and it tells you btw. But strength increases physical dmg and slightly hp
find locations that you have to google, are you serious , cant even just run trough the dungeon because you have to get out living and have to extract when finally some locations spawns in
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You want a bit of cash. I got some cash for you it's alot of gold that you might like
sounds not shady at all
i think its so stupid that i can spawn somewhere 5 minutes into a floor and spawn where someone else already has and be able to just follow the trail of bodies and 3rd party them, so cringe dude
Its amazing to me how ironmace still hasnt fixed the multiclassing in arenas. Also, everyone talks about druid nerfs, where tf is the ranger nerf. like wtf.
yo fr, rangers so fucking annoying and are everywhere
As an FYI you only spawn in someoneโs place if they went reds or died, you most likely ran into a different team
still cringe, there are so many possible spawn points
centaur hoof can be dropped in PVE? I killed 30 centaur and 0 loot (with 450 luck) how is possible
they shouldnt need to spawn more than one per spawn point, they want it to be a BR too much
Because luck doesnโt really do much anymore
so why exist luck?
Why is it shady
Because it gives an increase, but itโs very slight, every 50 lick gives a bit more but itโs really not much
posting this over here too
3 new book quest items appear to spawn each Ruins match:
Diary of the Toz - Refectory
Chronicles of the Cursed Crown - Greathall (A? Banshee room)
Manuscripts of the Warlord - Keep
Yeah well I didn't ask I just wanted to win fights
yes but the centaur hoof can be dropped in normal? or is bugged asf?
give me all your money, now
it can be dropped yes
Ah yes the only thing to complain about is the official servers, officially maintained by the devs and 50% of the game
How much money do you need
bro why it takes soooo long to find a party now ? never ever been that long before
because they killed the game, over and over
no I mean there is something else, they changed something about how the lobby are filled for sure, you can't have such a diff between today a 3 days ago only explained by a player number diff
Who drops catice?
Would be kinda cool if when you start boss some kinda barrier keeps boss doors closed for like 3min but if you die it opens back up immediately. (just realising this was messaged 3hr ago)
huh?
Where do i go if i'm looking for a party?
bro barbarian always do fkin damage when u block, fix this fuking game dude, what a stupid desing
Is wyvern still not dropping artifacts?
Looking for someone to play with, i'm ranger ๐
Thats it.... I'm playing barbarian, I want to 2 tap everything also and move at lightning speed. Nothing kills barb
is there an issue with the servers, me and my friends have been laggin all day
I like that idea though
Alright, new suggestion for druid. if you shift more than 3 times in .7 seconds, you get a debuff that makes you stand still and puke for .5 seconds the next time you go to human form. Rapid mutation upset their tum tum and us regular folk.
@glad thunder so like you not keeping barbs like this right? like you gonna roll out a fix for this craziness soon right? it snot going to be like this for like 4 weeks is it?
@glad thunder Why do i have to re open the game every single time i want to use a vpn while playing, WHY DO I HAVE TO REOPEN THE GAME EVERY SINGLE FLOOR AS WELL, you force me to have to wait for the game to close fully and reopen and then join late, and some spawns have monsters that will aggro on you initially without moving so i get to just die and lose all my shti hahahah so cool and fun
Bro on the update post that actually got a heart or like react on them (which they shouldnt have even got one) they got ratiod by the makeup funny guy reaction by 4:1 WAKE THE FUCK UP
OR STAY THE FUCK ASLEEP JUST REVERT IT TO AN ACTUAL FUN UPDATE BEFORE YOU DO
Is SDF a nice guy you think
100% no. they stole their game and then subjected all the players to constant canine poop updates @hard rock
People cry about druid, when barbarian exists.... hilarious
does anyone know what the cyclops mirror is for?
so you can see the back side of deez nutz
okay
extra credit if you paint a still life and send it to me
zzzzzz
@glad thunder so was the rogue damage nerf really needed? like the problem with them isnt they have to much phys power its true phys dam
Honestly what is wrong with this company. They had the game in decent spot. Arenas are so dumb. Why can 2 rangers be in a group if they random que but my friends and I have to be seperate classes?
will luck help with finding wolf pelts or no since its common?
did they fix the botched gear score yet?
nuh ๐ฆ
what are you going to complain abt then? Its really just meshing and cheating which is easy to fix in unoff lol
W
move speed meta again? lol
@upbeat root how do I counter this
When you enter arena it says you can't get matched with the same class in the team but I'm always playing vs 3 rangers. Is this intended cuz game is dead or we fixing this shit?
exactly. they are fucking stupid
Praying
Oof. Barb being 330 move speed weapon out with a shout that slows opponents is going to wipe out the player base lmao
barb has slow shout?
the aoe slow on savage roar is on the same level as when they reworked it and it was 50% stackable reduce phys dam : dramatic and need to be reverse asap
A non-target, 10% movespeed slow, 200+ hp, 2-4 hits kill, 330 move speed
found the human remains
savage roar slows now
has to be randoms, you just can queue with the same class, but with how dead games been you can certainly probably queue at the same time as your friend who is same class and get matched, asl long as you are on the same server
Blacksmith = ''we don't wanna move speed meta'', Blacksmith too = bringing back all move speed annoying things + buffs
thats wack af
Do not promote that Iโll pay sdf to ban you
its crazy, you should never not run it on barb now
Lol im already banned on my main this is a throw away :v
I got banned on this account for saying a homophobic slur, did an appeal said sowwy and got unbanned
probably SDF started playing barb
100% sdf is a barb main rn
Its wild now insanely lost the balance team is in this game. They have literally no idea what their doing. Feels like they just make random changes every patch that make no sense.
If he's not main barb, he's just a masochist with himself, like, oh yeah hurt me barb
rarity based matchmaking is so trash lmao. doesnt feel good at all. dont know why they want to go in the direction where people always buy full sets.
I "d0xxed" someone because a random guy added me and told me to k my s and a bunch of stuff, for no reason i think? but then he blocked me before i could even reply so i posted a screenshot of an obscure foreign insta account with the same username and asked if this was him .-.
There is no balance team itโs just sdf on a dance dance revolution pad that inputs random lines of code into the game
lol thats being generous to how much thought is put in to it
Wild to get banned for that

yeah, unfortunatly, since we also have the tradiational legalizenuclearbarb this patch too, people tend to not see it, but in fact it is catastrophic. Terrible. Huge step back to go back to prehistoric "rarity limitation" (the first use of limitation in the game, a prototype) when you added a value (gearscore) in your game to make it more refine and polish
In what module does it drop?
i dont even care for the barb i just always loved to find gear and run it and upgrade over time, choose my fight, that's dead now.
100% we could talk long time before exhausting all the bad aspect of this huge step backwards. Lots of build and archetype got gutted or literraly wiped from the game. Lot of way of playing, lot of liberty. And a lot of stuff are USELESS now, I mean even way more than before (imagine a game when you find a high rarity item you have 9/10 chance to sell it to npc ? I mean bro it's not hack and slash here...)
ikr, perma banned too with a 28-24d timer that just gets reset around 24d, took me a while to even realise it was a perma ban
Is the ranger the most OP class rn? 330 ms with longbow out doing 75hp headshots looks very nice to me
its hack n slash, on the palyerbase count
while i also think some updates are for testing this rarity based lobbys are trash if u just think about it logically

ew, im sorry you to experience that
keeps telling me that i cant bring in items higher than artifact every time i try to go into higher hr match, how do i fix lol there is no hgigher than artifact
it's gold coin
^^ was gonan say tat or the bags
yeah
What would you say the top 2 strongest trio comps are right now in purple HR
dont have any on me or purses
the 2 you are good with
That just isnโt helpful in the slightest ๐
well, game's broken then, idk...
went too squire so he can help remove the restriced items and it shows nothing
ikr 
Did they revert the need to craft/find your own gear for arena?
yes
Yeah itโs pretty bad now
guys how do i get extra thick pelt ?
so you have to find / craft your own gear now? @dull olive frost wolfs on ice map
No you can just buy bis gear and run it in arena, it sucks
oh gotcha
its for the quest i killed like 100 frost wolfs i only get the normal fur
โ โ ๐ซ โน๏ธ ๐ฝ ๐ฑ ๐ฆ ๐ฌ โ โ 
BARBARIANS ARE TOO FUCKING STRONG
you'r just really unlucky... Try luck pot, tend to replace the normal one with extra thick
When is the new water map
Agreed, time to buff them!!!!
slow on savage roar is absolutely scandalous
what is a cyclops precious mirror. just picked it up never seen it before
Nothing rn. Maybe soon will be quest for it
no one knows atm
mhm cool
Future quest item. Keep it
fk yeahhh
can skull keys and gold keys drop in normal lobyes ?
thats so handy negl
i could be completely wrong, but i think they can but the chance is ridiculously low
they can
i got one from a lich kill last season at the start
The anxiety of finding a blue after prob took a few years off my life
dunno if it got changed for this wipe tho, havent found one in LR for now
does warlocks hellfire do no damage to bosses or something?
Lmao this game has really gone to such crap.
No fixes for the longsword in years, enemies still swing through it like its not even there (confirmed in the death cam dont even say they were hitting my hand or hip, they hit neither and swing through my sword), crashes 7/10 times you leave the dungeon, you can still spawn in the same room as someone (love getting killed before I even load in its great).
Love the work Ironmace, keep changing those stats back and forth its such hard work on yalls part ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ .
Thats all I had to say I'm leaving. This game is crap.
it was heavily nerfed vs bosses, except for wyvern
also troll, a species known in most games for being weak to fire, now has fire resist in this game
with the 298 movespeed (barb) against 304.5 basic on rogue this class now get 3 movespeed abilities, berserk,rage and movespeed debuff xD and then look at Rogue's "Pros"
High movement speed. 
Quick attack speed.
Quickly interact with objects. 
Can pick locks without a lock pick. (Traps and Locks perk) 
Can detect & disable traps. (Traps and Locks perk)
Moves more silently. (Creep perk)
Man this is become a fucking joke game xD
remove roar slow or poop strike
guys can i drop a skull key from non hr bosses i cant find it pls help
Like , you just watchin scenes from "vikings" and realise a man holdin on double handed axe aint become invincible... he still can be stabbed to death with few good stabs of a sword... And look what we have... half HP player on barb meetin rogue, taking 3 hits and smash him to the ground xD Wow... what a nice thing you need overplay people that much they need miss 6 strikes in a row and get 15 stabs
savage roar 
axe mastery working for the bardiche just adds insult to injury because now the barbarians have a stupid long reach axe to go with their ability to stop people from running away
where can i find shiet like where i can drop skull keys
cuz its not on the wiki or the one that im using cuz its outdated af
Gk, lich, warlord or 1 module in inferno that has rare static spawn
Had to be hr now right
No but higher chance in HR

what does that weird lil book do in ruins
Does it put you on a NA server if you disconnect a vpn after floor one since it disconnects from the game and makes you rejoin?
Maybe
its really annoying because its completely not needed, because i can dc from it after i spawn in and it doesnt disconnect, works fine till you go to next floor
this game is a litteral joke now, just spawned into a game not even 15 seconds into a rare gear lobby i get killed by a bard in full minted leg gear, they need to fix this bs
f
Alright now hear me out. What if Wizards spell memory had more than 5, like 6 or 7, because he's a wizard you know?
Say... Goblin merchant is bugged or it dont work at all anymore on highroller? 2 full gearsets have vanished, and there is simply no way anyone looted me twice fully, all gearpieces... because im wearing trash mostly, so, what is going on?
Yeah highroller does not bring back loot anymore
it just doesnt work anymore on HR yeah
good change btw tbh
Damn, a warning somewhere ingame wouldve been nice... :/
not saying it isnt, but an ingame warning... is a must, people shouldnt have to go into a discord server to get to know, it should be informed ingame
That falls in line with them making announcements here and not in a twitch chat. But that ain't happening
Yeah their communication with their community is A1
nerf barb holy fuck
and bard
Nah nah barb good. Nerf some thing in barb not barb
the game dead or somethin? theres no one for duo or trio ques for any of the maps, and wheres the server region button?
are epic gold waterpots even dropping? i've been grinding non stop in HR for 3 days
take luck pot and break crate in inferno
They removed server selection
why did golden key market dump ?
Is arena set to lose gear after loss right now?
has it been considered merging the NA region to a single arena match making region? Takes a bit to find high mmr games (i think on us west?)
no u keep all
No, the description above the start button when you select arena as a map is accurate.
Thanks guys
is the game full dead in oce
great change to barbarians iron hammer, they arenโt completely broken now!
would anyone be able to help me with the quest blood for the truth?
no?
at least barb isnt completely broken now

this game goes to be so shit
bug after bug, buff shit that shouldnt be buffed, nerf shit that shouldnt be nerfed, changes none asked
Yeah game lag game lag to much. Cloth dropp to rare primitove branosolet to


Soooo chicken heals are pointless now
y
Anyone else finding 3 man barb teams ๐ญ๐ญ they are everywhere for me
whats the quest objective
yep, new meta
why did they nerf chickens heal lmfao it does 1 HP heal now like guys make chicken do a HOT then why make it pointless to use omg this dev team needs a professional im almost willing to step in almost if you could afford me
use altar of sacrifice
Itโs ridiculous and with the new mode changes everyone is just running movement like they were before and true phys just min maxing everything most of the time I donโt even feel like I got outplayed
just queue for trio squire kit and someone will let you forsure, go as cleric for even better chance
Havenโt had a single team that didnโt have full movement on it yet literally everyone is and this is all in the lower brackets too high rollers worse
got ganked by 3 barbs, u get perma slowed and a lot of dmg, and ofc they got that 15% action speed so who needs to stacks dex or as on items
This game needs a offline mode and a story they cant make this pvp we need another D&D game with dev support not this whats another game like Dark and darker?
Exactly itโs crazy most of the time I donโt even lose to skill I just lose to stupid shit
fr? loaded into like 5 highrollers into no one unless its because im on duo
I donโt even try going into anything but solos for high roller unless Iโm in a group
Youll just never find a game and if you do itโs with people who have no idea whatโs going on ๐ญ
bro these druids needs to be removed
I donโt like Druid as much as the next guy but for me rn itโs definitely barbs they are everywhere I got 2 shot by a club with 160 hp and 40% damage reduction sure not the most dmg reduction but it was still alright
aoe slow on savage roar is on the level of 50% physdamred stackable
im a barb, this guy comes bear form misses everything, i hit him 2 times in the head, he backs off after hiting me once, chickens away a whole block i med and by the time my potion was complete he was on me with panther and 3 hot me, there is no room for error with that class especialy with that dhamn heals he have
bark bark
Oh yea Druid is a menace too having that second dash on panther is ridiculous and they were already hard to catch and get away from
barb is so broken but still druid beats them
The only reason I donโt say itโs as bad as barb is because I just donโt see them as often
Every game whether itโs solos duos or trios there are full teams of barbs itโs crazy
Have you tried Pavise(tm)?
Iโm just trying to play my ranger mannnn not get run down by max move speed people who one to two shot me depending on my personal gear ๐ I wonโt say Iโm that good at this game but whereโs the skill in that
rogue were busted before this patch and are still in a good stop 
you can get 330 ms with longbow
so they nerfed bear attack? the 1 out of 2 attacks bear has...........why? did any fighter or cleric swings get nerfed for speed for attack? did long sword get slower? chikcen now only serves as a tripple jump heal does 1 hp and chicken cant even attack people ? so they nerfed druid cause he was balanced but new players couldnt fight druids so they nerfed him based off new players? riiiiiiiiiiight
Oh for sure I know that movement is crazy and has been for the past couple patches I just donโt always have the money to go grab the crazy gear
Nope
anythings possible now
Nope
330 w/ pavise is lightwork
Pavise(tm)
He donโt know ngl iv seen barbs with weapons out at max move speed
barbs easy to do it on tbf, 330 longbow is like bis
Fair fair but most of the barbs weapons are still really heavy so itโs surprising that they can get that fast sometimes
the wolf pelt used in the coin bag thats just dropped from a regular wolf? right
yea
Yes the wolves drop them any of them nightmare or otherwise
wait is it me or the wyvern phase doesnt do any dmg if you fail anymore ? is it bugged ?
is it one of those drops you want low luck hor high?
Can someone explain to my why Spectral coin bag is worth near as much as a chest?
Shadows of Chroma Tower is going to happen soon, at the moment they are focused on pve only ocntent to release the game with
pve mod being broken
wdym?
Cause the economy ia currently fucked
what is the luck cap?
Luck bug if u put a peice of gear on and take it off u will keep the luck from in it. Has to b in
Match
They buffed pretty much every barb weapon some of the Druid things both things that didnโt need to be touched ngl they are balancing around trios is seems and most people ik just play solos unless they are in a full group
could lanterns roll +2 additional weapon damage last wipe or am i crazy?
what's the benefits of the crafted gear "coperlight,cobalt, ect"
the problem isnt about brab weap dmg... people being so out of the touch make me laugh every time... people cry but not even for the good reason 
I know they buffed the skills too youโre making it seem like these things donโt add up ๐ญ
alright you'r true..! But if you remove slow on savage roar (and maybe the ms on berserk (and even that...)) no one gonna care about bardiche being an axe anymore I swear
it isnt
lmao druid heals dont even heal anymore LMFAO! its a healer and he cant heal thats crazy!!!
yeah it might be dead ๐ฅ
they provide unique stat combinations / an extra roll for their rarity
This may be true but at the same time that is still the difference between two and three hits most of the time and one less hit can make a big difference
Is here anyone i can ask for price of an item i have ?
whats the most dominant solo's class rn? still cleric?
Iv been seeing barbs and Druid personally
Some caster classes too like wizard
both are good but hate they require a BUNCH of gear to be viable in higher pvp
Is there a cap for CDR?
I can see the Druid but barbs iv seen go in with just movement and a little bit of true phys and they dominate and honestly you can get that for maybe 1.5 2k gold? A pretty budget kit
fr? bc i just get kited if i dont go full BIS on barb. double jump rogue and some casters have some wild advantages over you
hi, can some1 help me kill Spectral Knight? i need it for a quest and i donยดt know how t do bosses yet by myself, ty!!
Casters are always gonna be a problem for barb and jump rouge is fine if you got cap movement like I see most barbs cause they just hit the rouge with the slows heโs got on everything and just one to two shot them
Hey guys does the "up to artifact" high roller queue have higher luck chances/better drop rates than the regular high roller?
lets turn this chat into finding other games then dark and darker
how do you even reach cap moevement on barb? tried it a bunch of times to no avail
Movement on every piece youโre wearing not flat either the percentage movement and iv seen some get away with not having chest pieces and helmets if you wanna go that route
imma try that now then. appreciate ya man
Druid flew too close to the sun
Np I love playing barb but it just feels bad to cause they are so strong this patch
if anyone knows
the nerfs dont make any sense it disabled chicken bear is slower for no reason panther now has X2 room jumps to get away and to focus down ppl with 60agi like dude pick a lane
dont have that issue. i need the dough ๐ญ . what kind of gear do u even run on barb?
How did it disable chicken?
run whatever you want on barb it doesnt matter vision
Anyone able to help me with altar of sacrifice quesT?
If youโve got the money things with movement max hp and action speed. Not everyone will agree with me on what to actually wear I personally run the visored helm, the light aketon, either cloth pants or loose trousers( trousers will
Make you faster if you need it) the buckled boots and honestly you can have your pick of gloves I typically just go for the riveted for the strength if youโre gonna have good action speed
As for the rings either finesse or courage I typically go courage again for the strength and the necklace is either the frost or peace I typically go frost of the damage cause my armor have the hp I need
so paying 6k for coin bags was a bit much is 4.5k a fair price or should i just buy high value items to store gold
thx man. just shows how wrong i've been running my kits. thx
I buy items that retain value, good rolled gear like grimsmiles and trollsblood is my go to
what do you usually buy? im running out of space
cant connect to the game? anyone else?
bro read his msg again
he edited it right before i sent that
Of course and if you can manage it the rings should have true phys on them. Something like movement action speed and true phys is crazy good rn and super expensive if you wanna drop something though Iโd recommend the true phys it does make a difference sure but if youโve got the action speed and strength youโll still be hitting really hard
i usually dont built true phys on barb thought it didnt matter
anyone slese stuck on connecting
If you have enough it could mean the difference of one maybe even two hits depending on the weapon and not having to hit people more will always be helpful
WHAT THEY should do is NERF fighters ability to heal and speed up by 90% and give longsword a 30% slow animation then make Health potions not heal for 99% if your in a dungeon only! then make goblins hit for 1000hp a swing then make bats fly upsidedown IN THE DUNGeon under the dungeon behind the book shelf
True depending on the rolls on it and itโs typically cheaper
thats literally how they do there game updates i have never been more sure then i am now they yes they do drugs and no they dont know what they are doing with this game

never take advice from a druid who doesnt know how to write "their" ๐
ah you must be a barb main meta cheese
I mean, I do to but I would have never, ever made some of those terrible change. Stop blaming the drug
i usually play fighter or cleric. like having pdr. but yeah barb occasionally suits my taste in victory and liberation my good sir
Playing with randos can be so frustrating. I just cleared the remaining two members of an enemy team my team had died two but both my allies had quit despite there being a res shrine right there. It wasn't even a long fight, it was a seal clubbing.
Only way to play this game in trios is with a group I swear ๐ญ people do this all the time
@jovial gale one last thing, what weapon do u use on barb? fel like all weapons are pretty equal rn
the best way to enjoy dark and darker is to not play dark and darker
It can be a toss up iv seen people even make the club work this patch kinda crazy but if you want the strongest Iโd say the bardiche I run that and the double axe most of the time
Anyone able to help me with altar of sacrifice quesT?
Yeah I can help you get that done quick.
just entering into dungeon is buggy as hell
ty!!
how come that people are using club rn?
Itโs fast ๐ less weight than most of the other weapons
Works with a shield so you can counter rangers/wizards with it too if you want.
Bro wtf is with the audio in forgotten castle layer 1
You don't get audio majority of the time, like when people open doors in your module, then all of a sudden you look up and there's a barb or fighter on top of you, holy shit it's so bad
Chicken heals for 1 hp dude just do away with the heal why keep it for 1 HP why are they so dumb
Everytime I use blood exchange, I dont lose any health but gain the %15 action. Is this a known bug?
why golden key value fell to the ground dawg i lost a lotta gold
YAH YAH YAH lets make continuous dungeons so i can spawn in and everythings alrdy dead :maldge:
Does Goblim Merchant service work in HR? If no one loots you?
barb and barber @glad thunder f u , brain 0 dead
no, only normals sadly
Nope, no items from HR for you.
Nah
pls make savage roar 50/50 chance explode the barb's pc
so do you have to find your gear for arena still or can you take whatever into it now?
How do I do this
I think you lose 15% max heath
no need to have ur name on it, just buy and go. It says there Retrieve All
WHY TF DO WE KEEP FIGHTING TEAMS OF THE SAME CLASS IN ARENA @glad thunder
cause people chase the meta. and the meta right now is like 3 different classes