game-discussion

[zealous oxide]

so regardless ill make PF 😄

[coarse portal]

You can hit demigod my guy. Just don't get mad when you die fire it back up and try again. There's plenty of time

[zealous oxide]

what are the rewards iirc last time i played it told you what was locked behind each rank

[mild sinew]

they gotta add more to do than just bossing

[coarse portal]

You won't know until the end of the season.

[dense pawn]

After the latest update to AMD graphics card drivers I get really bad frame drops. I've been running the game with every setting on low despite surpassing recommended system requirements. However, now it has become unplayable. I hope Ironmace support will help me out.

I've been having issues in the past with Unreal engine games. It might have something to do with having AMD processor and video card.

Did anyone else run into a similar issue?

[clear agate]

Yea buddy ironmace support is going to help you 🤣 and than u woke up from a dream

[raw onyx]

is it worth to buy that Exquisite Treasury from the shop for blue stones? is it limited in some way or should i just spend it on normal cosmetics?

[zealous oxide]

i mean its only a lobby skin if you wanna see a golden goose pooping gold eggs buy it

[dry thicket]

Whats the best way to farm AP?

[limpid topaz]

Ruins, kill subbosses exit on inferno

[carmine dune]

Wow a lot of salt earlier

Deletes clerics btw pls, asap

[flint otter]

Anyone know when we will be able to craft spectral coin bags ?

[main lintel]

so is 224 lobbies dropping artifacts now?!

[west slate]

No

[main lintel]

why is there videos of 2 people getting them from 224 lobbies.....

[west slate]

Bug

[main lintel]

so its a bug that many people have had artifacts from 224s... i mean i thought they werent dropping but ive seen 2 videos this week of people getting them and my friends got 2 also. but i thought they were talking garbage

what are you talking about.... there is nothing about items selling on multiple characters now....

[fierce violet]

Damn dog you actually right but we still have to unlock the market place on multiple characters? Weird.

[frail widget]

It’s always been like that lol

[rose narwhal]

skull key module

it either spawns or it doesnt, your mmv

[vestal mountain]

I bought a redstone shard online, and i didnt recieve it does anyone know what to do?

[vital pagoda]

When do we get a new update

[polar glade]

Buff idea for wirzard: instant focus increases damage of spell cast by 10%.
Would this be okey?

[fossil yarrow]

What changed about ghost king this wipe?

[gloomy latch]

anyone else ever go through a red just to find yourself in the main menus with your gear/inventory stripped as if you died? cause that just happened, and i have no goblin merchant returns either. so help me if i just lost what i thought was my "safe kit" for pve

[cedar stump]

Wait, so they removed chest and stash tab quests? and no emote quests either?

[gloomy latch]

not sure where the info came from, but i'm pretty sure those are end quests in the chains for like tavern master and collector or treasurer (cant remember which one for the chest). I don't think they've released all their quests, so we might stil see them

[gloomy latch]

requires a summoning item in high roller, does probably around 5x the damage he used to do when he screams. Having the debuff on you for it is almost a guaranteed death if you're not tanky. Edit: he also can't be cheesed by hiding behind the statues anymore for the bubble chase phase

[urban owl]

contact the support

[fossil yarrow]

Ahh okay! The debuff from the aoe on the ground or if you get hit with the orbs?

[gloomy latch]

They are the same debuff, stacking

[fossil yarrow]

Nice thanks so much for the reply

[gloomy latch]

man, like actually, did i just lose a 30k kit for literally no reason? fuck me... Has anyone else experienced this? Go into a pve dungeon, go through a red, end up at the main screen, no gear, no inventory, no fucking explanation?

[crimson tulip]

Had it happen once but as soon as I loaded back to main menu it crashed so I figured it was my hardware but if it happened to you too, maybe a rare bug

[gloomy latch]

and NOTHING from the goblin vendor?

[crimson tulip]

Nope, whole kit gone, I was in trios and my friend said he grabbed some of my gear too and I didn’t get that either so 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[gloomy latch]

Like man, i aint that fuckin rich. a 30k kit is kind of a big spend for me rn. Shit took me some days to farm up

appreciate the answer, but that's a rip for me wanting to play this game if they can'

can't even get dungeon transitions down

[crimson tulip]

Yeah np man, 30k is a fat kit to me too, I’ve lost so many gear sets due to bugs I just run it w squire loot and some move speed pieces and try to outplay, lowkey more fun that way lol

[sleek hedge]

It's me or in one month -7000 player because of this stupid patch and meta rat bossing ?

[humble zodiac]

Every patch gets worse and worse

The part they copied was great but theyve made dumb change after dumb change

[gloomy latch]

and i agree with that, but man i was running pve mode. like come on SDF... i literally did nothing wrong to lose this, i just used a red staircase and i know there's going to be NOTHING done about it when i report this bug. This isn't the first time i've lost shit like this and it's still fucking happening months later. i'm about to uninstall this game after this rage post... Nothing ever get's addressed for inventory problems or dupes or anything that ruins the economy either. I mean let's face it, does anyone even think they're going to remove the doubled up gold bags that everyone got by mistake from the "season pass"? that was supposed to be addressed in Hotfix 83. Then it was noted for hotfix 84. Still hasn't happened, but not one mention of it was made in hotfix 84, was it? Just shove it under the rug i guess... It'll die down.

[sleek hedge]

Yeah , like SDF oh we loos 7000 player in one month maybe it's because they are adult now , not because the fuking meta is stupid and dev thinks like a pig

[gloomy latch]

are you saying SDF thinks that, or that players became adults in one month? i'm very confused lol

[sleek hedge]

@gloomy latch This is a condescending joke , u must play barb i think xd

@gloomy latch but love u too

[gloomy latch]

Your English is very bad, you must play rat rogue. love you too

[sleek hedge]

@gloomy latch no big duck fighter

[gloomy latch]

https://tenor.com/view/quack-duck-gif-20246771

[sleek hedge]

xd

[real copper]

spawning people in a HR room with people in it is unacceptable.

[gloomy latch]

welcome to Dark and Darker 2.0 - where the 3rd parties don't stop. Streamers got bored of winning too much, so SDF gave room for them to try to win harder at the expense of others.

[undone patio]

Try this Latino Special by Zii EDM its WoooouuuW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIFaVuuYbd0&list=OLAK5uy_nj0GAEFZAxrSyzjxNjkiqwlX4S5Gg7WbE

[real copper]

none of that is remotely related to what 'm talking about

[flat quarry]

why do only some of my squire weapons upgrade to common and what do i have to do to upgrade the rest? (ik bows and melee are separate)

[gloomy latch]

it is actually, if you take a minute to think instead of brainrotting your keyboard. 3rd parties don't stop because people keep spawning into your lobbies. There is no limit to the people in the lobbies, only a timeframe of which they will stop spawning. What is the response you're looking for exactly? lol

[rapid ridge]

Mald

[real copper]

It looks like you've responded to the wrong person, or didn't understand the issue with spawning into an occupied room. Nobody is talking about 3rd parties but you. Best of luck.

[rapid ridge]

He didn't read either lol

[sand zealot]

which named items arent in the game ?

[gloomy latch]

You're not wrong, i won't try to keep explaining lol

[gloomy latch]

pretty much anything from what is expected for Wyvern to drop -- the bows, some shields, pulverizing prayer

[real copper]

You should keep in mind when you insult others you say quite a bit about yourself instead of your intended target. Grow up.

[sand zealot]

i see thank you

[mellow wharf]

why do they not drop?

[gloomy latch]

Now who's malding? let's be real, you just came here to fight with people anyway, you were never here to get an answer for anything lol.

[real copper]

I never asked a question, nor did I infer you were malding. You can scroll up if you're having trouble following the conversation. You clearly are here to troll. I feel legitimately bad for you

[frosty stag]

its not fair the player can rejoin in same match again

or spawn in same room where got killed

[gloomy latch]

Didn't say you did, i clearly implied that you are malding now. Keep up, Mr. Intellectual. You're the only one missing all the points and pretending they haven't been explained.

[lime stream]

am I missing something for cockatrice feathers? I have killed so many cockatrice over the span of 10 hours still no feather

[rapid ridge]

Get revenge

[frosty stag]

i kill it. and one minute again player come from shadow and stab back

[steady aspen]

where dark darker update sadge

[gloomy latch]

careful what you wish for!!

[west slate]

All the ones form wyvern I think

[steady aspen]

BUFF druid lol lets see the crazyness

[gloomy latch]

wyvern is bugged, i haven't seen it be addressed in text yet, but maybe SDF has commented on someone's stream? Seems to be how information is getting passed around now -- through messages in stream chats, not posts on their community discord.

[gloomy latch]

you might've invited a storm lol. Should've lead with "i think druid's are pretty weak rn"

[steady aspen]

👿

[lime stream]

Buff Cleric

[steady aspen]

that was ment to be the happy devil

[gloomy latch]

uhh, can we get a sorc buff plz?

[lime stream]

Give fighter a jetpack and minigun?

[gloomy latch]

tell you what, i'll meet you in the middle. rocket propelled minigun

[lime stream]

tell you what lets do a flying fighter with a minigun that launches druids

[gloomy latch]

oh my lord, the cluck cannon

[warm warren]

damn game is dying very fast whats going on its not even the end of the season

[lime stream]

wym its dieing?

[vocal turtle]

longsword first attack speed buff pls the longsword bretheren has died off

[lime stream]

your using it wrong if your using regular attacks

[vocal turtle]

cant parry a rogue now cant i

[gloomy latch]

not dying, but there is some sadness in the community about the bossing issues i think. Slight decline is all i'd say right now

[lime stream]

I can parry rogues not regularly but #practice

[warm warren]

longsword is a crutch weapon it wins fights for you

[gloomy latch]

parry my rapier! oh wait, you dont have to cause it's actually a pool noodle

[vocal turtle]

i mean parrying rogues is possible but riposte does in fact not comeout

[lime stream]

cause ur slow? idk what to tell you

[plain egret]

18k players atm and most people have jobs

[gloomy latch]

wait, like not go off? are you mashin that button hard enough or what? SMASH THAT MOUSE

[vocal turtle]

huh ?

[lime stream]

if ur not getting riposte off fast enough ur not triggering it quick enough

[gloomy latch]

https://tenor.com/view/red-button-spam-press-button-click-gif-17367381

[vocal turtle]

what do i have to press right click again in 0.000001ms rather than 1ms if so my bad

[lime stream]

basically you do

[gloomy latch]

yep. that's what we're saying brotha!

[heavy anvil]

It is super difficult to parry a circling panther especially with longsword

[lime stream]

u have I believe .5 seconds to hit it

[warm warren]

you can just hit the panther

[lime stream]

as soon as you hear the que instantly mash butoon #profit

[vocal turtle]

yeah but it infact does not go offf

[heavy anvil]

Nope

[gloomy latch]

^^ so much this lol. just give em a little tap tap and watch the body flip into the air with joy.

[vocal turtle]

same with rapier first attack, second attack yes

[heavy anvil]

I'm almost sure that you can't riposte

[lime stream]

idk what to tell you i have no problems with it

desync?

[vocal turtle]

you know what screw longsowrd buff how bout making the weapons entire length be parriable also fix skelly guardsman elite and up vertical parry and ill be happy

[gloomy latch]

time to take this to the dojo. i gotta know what this mans on about.

[vocal turtle]

possibly

[lime stream]

I know longsword does have MAD desync at times

[plain egret]

if your trying to parry a rogue your throwing lol

[gloomy latch]

you make parrying TOO easy, no one is ever going to use a shield again, or any other weapon for that matter. lol

[vocal turtle]

could also be ultra bad weapon hit box

[lime stream]

this too if they arent a barb cleric fighter or melee caster i just swing

[heavy anvil]

Rapier first attack I can riposte

Sometimes

[vocal turtle]

ahh there we go baby XD

[lime stream]

i was gunna say because I can do the same just gotta know hitbox and not have desync

[heavy anvil]

So that is desync probably

But daggers never worked for me

[vocal turtle]

damn so my wifis buggin then holding me back

[lime stream]

Daggers are SUPER iffy for me I have to act like im stroking out to parry em

[lime stream]

bruh if ur on wi-fi u got other issues lol

[gloomy latch]

if you're on wifi you're most likely getting 50-100% more ping than you could be getting

[heavy anvil]

With rapier you can bait the first attack and parry the second

[lime stream]

hardwire in my guy

[vocal turtle]

ofc not im on that cat 6

[lime stream]

I got that juicy 1gig fiber with cat 8 😛 and still have issues rofl

[vocal turtle]

ig singapore servers do be iffy tho

[vocal turtle]

ISP buggin

[lime stream]

I have a friend who plays on those servers and he plays on west coast servers because even with 200ms ping its still better

[gloomy latch]

i got hardwired internet, from a wireless tower. FUCK YEA

[vocal turtle]

wireless tower holding homie back

[gloomy latch]

been putting foiled "range extenders on it" for years now

[oak topaz]

And the hit box is wacky

[vocal turtle]

mann do i miss not being on signapore servers

getting out asianned does not feel good

[oak topaz]

Try EU.
It's all sweaty fat gamers

[gloomy latch]

FR though, even as the host, anyone else getting put on bad ping servers frequently? i'm getting it alot even in solos

[heavy anvil]

People always say that about EU I've never tried any other servers I'm curious now

[vocal turtle]

nothing compared to DaD equivalent of Faker

[gloomy latch]

whodat

[lime stream]

Faker?

best LoL player on the planet

[gloomy latch]

League of Legends reference

[lime stream]

I know who he is. He coached me with my Ahri

[gloomy latch]

kisses feet

[oak topaz]

Eu normals all pro players.
Pve boss always dead before i get to him.
It's crazy.
I went solo normals to learn spectral

[vocal turtle]

privilage indeed

[vocal turtle]

damn eu sounds fun if only i can leave singapore but a lil someone hates it when people have fun

[heavy anvil]

Damn now I feel like i might have a chance on other servers :copium:

[gloomy latch]

It was me. I want all of you to stop having fun.

[vocal turtle]

whats that youve got this super fun tournament hapenning ? how bout I update the game during that same time

[gloomy latch]

lol. didn't he do this twice?

[vocal turtle]

twice ? jesus i thought he was increadibly incompetent but now i think hes just a prick

[lime stream]

this is how cockatrice are for me its why this stupid quest is pissin me off. got 3 eggs no feathers

[vocal turtle]

lol for me it was the opposite but i managed to do them in hr without getting stabbed by 2 rogues teamming with ESP

[heavy anvil]

I stopped trying for feather long ago

[vocal turtle]

fun times indeed

[lime stream]

im about ready to stop trying I have gotten every single other quest done except the damn bird

[heavy anvil]

For me I'll just play the game normally im bound to get it during the wipe maybe

[gloomy latch]

I genuinely don't know for sure on this, i'm just speculating from what i've heard in the discord chats. You know how that can be though i bet lol.

I'm personally only aware of one incident that happened i think within the past year

[gloomy latch]

I heard it's really not worth it in returns anyways. It just really is annoying to keep seeing on the quest log though... if you're that kinda person i mean

[vocal turtle]

yeah thats about what i know too cuz if he did it twice that would be something else for sure

but really tho this game needs a new lead dev guy needs to step down

[gloomy latch]

either way, i'm pretty sure the last time it happened has taught the lesson, i'm pretty sure he addressed it then

[gloomy latch]

I don't think he needs to step down, i think the world needs to give him a break and let him focus. He also needs to find people he trusts to offload some of his work to.

[vocal turtle]

ohh yeah i do rememmber him saying something about his faults as a dev and how incompetent he is

but fast foreward 3-5 months later still no change, still no communication, does not listen to community, and most importantly of all buffs druid

[oak topaz]

Try luck gear or some.
I got 3 feathers and one egg

[lime stream]

What's the point of leveling the dumb bird anywho?

[vocal turtle]

yeah he talked about admiting his faults but its been so long since then and still no improvement even with something as simple as communication

[gloomy latch]

supposed to be a gem pooper basically

[lime stream]

I was gunna ask is luck a factor?

[vocal turtle]

all the info weve received from him is with his twitch chats to streamers and I MUST SAYY ITS NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR US

[lime stream]

They need to engage with the community more tbh

[vocal turtle]

no sh*t the engagement has been 0 so damn far aside from his twitch chats

[gloomy latch]

Luck in the past proved to me to be very handy for mob drops (i used to get a 1 in 4 drop rate on spider silk instead of 1 in 10 when i wore luck gear). Last season, i found luck had no effect in my personal testing on this, and i tested it pretty heavily (100+ games running same routes to get info). This season i have experienced similar results from a much smaller sample though. My spider silks are still ~1 in 10 kills, despite wearing 300+ luck. I have noticed better droprates on some items in higher tiers of the dungeon crawling though (i.e. high roller vs pve).

[vocal turtle]

and the ideas hes saying so far does not look good for 1 hes planning to increase 2 hander damage and axe specialization for barbs

[lime stream]

I have some random luck pieces i can give a go

[oak topaz]

Luck increases the chance of getting valuable items.
Feather is rare so it should increase the chance

[lime stream]

Why?! Base white squire kit i can bop someone with a battle axe for 130dmg

Mmm naw they promised more engagement and haven't delivered

[gloomy latch]

If it's a 3% droprate (i don't actually know, i'm just using a placeholder number), luck is acting like it's making it like 3.3% with 500 luck. To give you an idea.

[lime stream]

No it's not. Using the COMMUNITY discord and making announcements are

[gloomy latch]

This is hilariously accurate lmao.

[lime stream]

Last i remember wiki said 10%

[vocal turtle]

because sdf looves bringing back problems and after a week or 2 hey guys we've fixed the problem hehe only to repeat the same mistake next wipe

[lime stream]

Maybe it can put some of these clerics in check

[vocal turtle]

move speed on all equipment was a bad idea hmmm yeah lets bring it back maybe itll work

[lime stream]

My cleric in legendary can slap for 140 a hit it's hilarious to 2 tap a non plate user

[gloomy latch]

for real, why are the streamers suddenly more important than the community? Why are we discussing future patch notes on someone's stream rather than in the discord of all your supporters?

[vocal turtle]

unless cleric builds all movespeed

[lime stream]

I am 330 ms in full plate weapons out smacking for 140

[vocal turtle]

i did it on my full plate fighter then i can do it on cleric

[vocal turtle]

exactly

[gloomy latch]

Wiki has new numbers from this season, so i'm using placeholders as they've taken down the droprates on the wiki for the time being

[lime stream]

Gotcha

[vocal turtle]

man oh man do i love playing against a cleric with 330 ms and 60+ pdr with 1 push of his button

the ultimate skill expression indeed

[gloomy latch]

Alot of droprates seem to be tied closer to the dungeon difficulty bracket i think. If i go to 225 high roller, i get alot more wendigo hearts than when i do it in PvE. Luck hasn't changed anything for me on either 225's or pve though.

[lime stream]

Right? Or using holy purification to 1 tap every single undead

[gloomy latch]

haha to be fair this is the same 5 second timmy that dies in two longbow shots after his pdr buff is down 🤣

[lime stream]

Without pdr buff I sit at 44% currently

[vocal turtle]

yeah cleric is just ultra busted maybe im the fool for not playing the characters that are broken rn

[gloomy latch]

THIS is wild. But i can't say cleric's are alone. This patch has added some "flavour" to caster's being strong against pve. I kind of like it though, not like the abilities were that helpful before, right?

[lime stream]

I only do it for my quests turns em easy mode

Pvp I typically rogue or fighter

[vocal turtle]

i main fighter man and must i say shield bash do be greatt

[gloomy latch]

exactly, it's really just questing focused. But i mean, there's something to be said about cleric's walking in a room in HR, 1 button'ing it, and making mad exp for HR grinds. Then again, HR is free anyway, so i guess it doesn't really matter.

[lime stream]

330ms longsword fighter that can parry is scary

[vocal turtle]

the anti rogue button

[gloomy latch]

oh god, not the Paviiiiiiiise!!!

[vocal turtle]

heater shield actually

[gloomy latch]

phew

[lime stream]

Pavise 1 shots are hilarious

[vocal turtle]

i still need some kind of ranged for druids

[gloomy latch]

crossbow/pavise. done!

[lime stream]

Pavise and crossbow

[gloomy latch]

highfive

[vocal turtle]

XD fair enough i mean skinny pete certainly knows that

[lime stream]

I have a ranger built where I can fire my windless crossbow so fucking fast it's like rapid fire

[vocal turtle]

best zwei user gets diffed by commically large shield

[gloomy latch]

man, he's the one exceptionally skilled streamer that i genuinely feel bad for when i see a pavise on his stream. It's like a taunt from his stream-snipers i swear

[vocal turtle]

yeah he was the reason for me playing barb back then

[gloomy latch]

Like i shit thee not, i have seen 3 pavise fighters close in on him IMMEDIATELY after a warlord kill on several occasions. it's like watching a riot team come to take him away lmfao

[vocal turtle]

i also feel bad for sparky hes also the reason why i sunk 200+ hrs on longsword

[vocal turtle]

yeah i saw clips of that stream

[gloomy latch]

yeah, but sparky has other ways of dealing with pavise bros. He's a good sorc

[vocal turtle]

funnily enough all he needed was a sledgehammer lol

[gloomy latch]

and impact. Didn't they start bringing perfect block too? lmao

[vocal turtle]

ohh legit HHAHAHAHAA

thats hlarious brahh

why dont he just hide which server or delay stream

[gloomy latch]

fucking diabolical bruh. lmfao

[gloomy latch]

cause its Pete bro, he's like the most og "fight me" persona i know on this game lol

[shrewd cove]

I killed a cleric with a blue and orange heater shield skin. Does anyone know what it is and if its still aquire-able?

It was not aegis

[gloomy latch]

I believe this is a skin from certain appointed individuals in the discord. Like a recognition-given skin

[vocal turtle]

yeahh im hoping he doesnt quit because of that i just cant imagine spending all that summon items and time just to get streamsniped

[wispy lichen]

If it's the same as previously, does anyone in here know if gold coin chest quest will come this week, or next?

[shrewd cove]

So i murdered a mod? Interesting

[gloomy latch]

Not necessarily a mod. But maybe it's part of the "Troubadour" thing or something like that?

[vocal turtle]

best he can do is barb buff take it or leave it.

[shrewd cove]

Rather a bonk cleric nerf tbh

[quaint saffron]

When new quests, wanna make them new craftables

[shrewd cove]

bring back caster cleric. 10 spell cleric is a dying breed

[gloomy latch]

nonono, buffing 2 handers. Druid's get a Bardiche now.

[desert orchid]

cleric spells have seen nerfs while smite is as bonky as ever

[gloomy latch]

scratch that, you're right. You killed a mod.

[wispy lichen]

ill take it

[gloomy latch]

Barb buff: Barb's can now use Ceremonial Staves

[wispy lichen]

potion chugger ceremonial staff barb would go INSANE

[vocal turtle]

oh jeez do i love it when my favorite developer changes a number from their perk sheet, such effort, such genious

[gloomy latch]

LOL YES

[wispy lichen]

full magical heal build

and blue potions

[desert orchid]

nah chugger with leg pots and unique ceremonial staff barb

[shrewd cove]

The game has been giving signs, ive found so many 3 mag healing barb chest pieces

[wispy lichen]

potion chugger is strong as is, so it could be good

[desert orchid]

its so sad that demonclads and grips are so ridiculously expensive 😔 the demon gear mheal barb build is kil as all atri pants are like 30k last I checked for really bad stats

[shrewd cove]

True, ive yet to get a centuar tail and ive def killed over 100

[desert orchid]

I dont remember last time I saw a centaur tail lmaooooo

seen more golden keys from skeleton champs than centaur tails

[gloomy latch]

So i was actually thinking about this... MH barb. with uniques you could get like 50+ MH. That'd make your potions (grey ones) heal for like 55 hp over 10 seconds (5.5 hp/second)

[shrewd cove]

Ive pulled more gold chests than centuar tails

2 chests counting this wipe and last. and ive only ever gotten 1 tail I think

[desert orchid]

ur average streamer who plays this game as a job probably finds more skull keys than centaur tails

[gloomy latch]

not this wipe! (too much 3rd partying, less bossing more resetting)

[shrewd cove]

Ive tried to do 225 bosses and I just cant. Not with the 3rd parties and rats

Ive yet to kill a boss ive summoned, despite using like 10+ summons

[gloomy latch]

It'd be fine if there was at least a way the general communited committed to fighting it out quick before or after the boss... but instead people end up wasting boss summon items just to dance around the map for 5-8 minutes before having to find extraction or dying to 3rd party pileups

[shrewd cove]

Impossible in us east. Maybe wyvern has better luck with the rats but not ruins

[gloomy latch]

Wyvern does have better luck... because it's broken. No artifacts are dropping

[wispy lichen]

thats fking insane

[shrewd cove]

Exactly even if I dont die to rats by the time im done with em theres not enough time to kill boss

[gloomy latch]

a blue health pot would do it in like 6.3 seconds. almost 10 hp/sec.

Uniques pose some pretty wild shit. You could do something like this for Bard beer builds too, with 50+ phys healing you could insta-heal for like 55 hp per ale chugged. The build will just not be as strong in a 100-0 fight basically

[shrewd cove]

and nothing like having to deal with the ranger that does nothing but take potshots while im fighting warlord, and runs as soon as I chase

Forcing boss reset

Or the druids that all have an agreement to kill the non druid first. stg

[heady arrow]

does goblin merchent recovery work for highroller?

[shrewd cove]

No, doesnt work for hr, and doesnt work if you die to void in ice abyss

[gloomy latch]

ngl i think this is a thing with all classes lmao. If i see two fighters, they look at eachother, look at me, and then hit sprint at me. I see two rogues, one backs into the shadows, the other baits my attention to look away while they both close in. it's an unspoken agreement, you know if you know.

[shrewd cove]

I aint risking hr ban. I may not kill everyone I see, but if theres a fight im not helping you

[lapis mural]

cutthroat doesnt stop bard buffs? wow

[shrewd cove]

In norms absolutely. Sometimes I see someone fighting a rogue or druid and I help em, sometimes I kill em after, sometimes I dont.

[desert orchid]

sdf just said 24gs is coming back noo he caved to the redditors 😭

[shrewd cove]

Cutthroat makes ranger put up a five shot or quickshot after the skill has already been activated. You already have your cake and youre eating it. Dont ask for another

[lapis mural]

in my 100 lvl of rogue now i did not have one encounter with a ranger ...

[shrewd cove]

I personally dont mind 24gs, sometimes I just wanna run at people and pvp without having to make kits

Brainless pvp with no stakes is fun. And if I want the same thing with super juice kits then I can play arena

[graceful storm]

try doing 1v2s in 124s wearing squire gear, its pretty fun! depending on which class you play some are harder than others

[shrewd cove]

used to do this with pickpocket rogue lmao. The good days

[gloomy latch]

I agree, and people were adhering to this before, but it seems like now they are either not reading and new, or choosing to ignore it more this season. I haven't really seen much for punishment when i see others doing it. Trolling aside, i don't think people do it intentionally to team, i think they choose the most dangerous target to get off the table first for them. Like two fighters might prefer to have a mage out of the way before they commit to fighting eachother. I was just explaining that in a shitty way.

At the end of the day, unless they are looting your body together after, it seems like no bans are issued, no matter how blatant the teaming seems.

[shrewd cove]

True, watching some streamers who just grind bosses the teaming is blantant, and the stream sniping too

Pete has been dealing with a particular duo of pavise fighters the past week or two that have been cancer to watch

[gloomy latch]

it's so obvious, but at the same time it's completely dumb-defendable because "Where's the hard proof"

[neon star]

guys qwuick, for lich is it purple curse stick together or blue?

[shrewd cove]

Purple group blue shoo

[neon star]

thank

[lapis mural]

isnt it both shoo?

[gloomy latch]

i lol'd

[shrewd cove]

It would be so easy to spread misinfo and ruin a groups game

[gloomy latch]

only if you like purple nurples

[long topaz]

Adding druid and literally never actually nerfing it has to be studied as the easist to fix game downfall ever lmao

[gloomy latch]

bruh don't tell me druid has never been nerfed. I'll pile the notes. lol

Trust. me. it was so much worse. SO MUCH

[shrewd cove]

Purple does like 99% of your hp, and that % decreases for each other player in the circle (not only your teammates). Blue does 50% of your hp and increases for every other player in the circle. ( I think at 3 people its insant death even at full hp)

[lapis mural]

but dont the other ppl in the purp also get dmg then?

[shrewd cove]

Its % scaling, so magic resist, magic pots, and health dont matter

[gloomy latch]

the damage is shared on purple evenly. if 99% damage is split 3 ways, it's only 33% per person. Blue does like 50% i think, but increases by like double per person in the circle with you.

[shrewd cove]

YEs, but they take reduced as well

If all 3 ppl are in purple you all only take like 15% hp dmg, and actually heal for more with the after circle buff

[gloomy latch]

wait it's that low of dmg? disregard my statement

[shrewd cove]

Ah I dont got exact numbers, but its very little

[long topaz]

0 nerfs that did anything. Just some bs to try to get the heat off of how op druid is

[lunar skiff]

BRING BACK GOBLIN!!!! THROW AWAY RANDOM MODS

[shrewd cove]

Pretty sure its not a third, cause then you wouldnt overheal from the buff

[gloomy latch]

idk if its 15%, but i think it could be perceived as that after Magic resist reductions, or perserverance too

[gloomy latch]

overhealing happens because the heal is for the same amount of the damage, but healing doesnt get reduced by resistance. At least, that's how i was explained it

[shrewd cove]

I could test later, but I dunno. Anyways always group for purple

[shrewd cove]

Nu uh, heal is not same amount of dmg. If you tank purple alone you dont go back to full

you get like half ish

[gloomy latch]

this is true. i'm curious how its determined now

[shrewd cove]

Wonder if its affected by mag healing though

or if its special, would it be affected by vampirism?

[gloomy latch]

ah ok so

[pliant aurora]

Can someone tell me which bosses are in crypt (-1) and which are in hell (-2) on forgotten castle please ?

[shrewd cove]

Warlord and lich are in crypts, ghost king is in inferno/hell

[gloomy latch]

Curse of Isolation (blue) with 1 person will do 50% max hp as true damage, then heal back 35%. it will always do more damage than it heals for at all stages of people gathered in the circle.

Curse of Gathering does 95% with 1 person, healing back for 65%
65% with 2 people, healing back for 35%
35% with 3 people, healing back for 10%.

Seems the game has designed Curse of isolation to generally do 20% damage more than it heals at all stages, Curse of Gathering only does less net damage when there is 3 or more people gathered, but is still more easily survivable with 2 people instead of 1

[shrewd cove]

I think the heal buff is like 40% ish of your hp. Because if you are full hp and you and 1 other tank the purple then drink a potion you will end back at full hp

[pliant aurora]

Thanks you !

[shrewd cove]

ah, so the healing decreases as well

[gloomy latch]

yes, but arguably you take less net damage with 3 because the difference is only 20% instead of 30% like with 1 or 2 people. The 10% difference makes a pretty big impact on the flow of the fight as far as time spent healing.

[shrewd cove]

but is the healing affected by buff duration? Is having a high will stat detrimental for the heals? Does it scale? Is it affected by vampirism? Is it even mag healing? Does phys healing have a place outside of drunkard bard?
Find out next time. on dragon ball z

[devout pollen]

still no announcements

actually ridiculous

dead game

[shrewd cove]

Then perhaps its time for you to bury it and move on. No reason to kick a dead horse as they say

[devout pollen]

PERHARPS ITS TIME THEY GET TO FKIN WORK AND RELEASE A PATCH - better option

[peak sparrow]

💯

[devout pollen]

NOT LIKE THIS HAS BEEN THE MOST STALE SEASON EVER

[shrewd cove]

Well now I think you just have your jumpies in a twist. You do know that they don't actually look here and see you right?

You'd have a better chance sending them mail in south korea

Or lurking in a streamer chat waiting for sdf to drop by

[devout pollen]

they get spammed all day still don't do sh.t doesnt matter if they see what I write or not

LETS BUFF X REMOVE X BUFF Y REMOVE X BUFF X REMOVE Y BUFF Z AND REMOVE X . GOOD PATCH SDF

HOW ABOUT YOU KNOW, FORGET TRYING TO BALANCE (you re horrible at it) AND ADD FKIN CONTEEEEEEEEEEENT

[gloomy latch]

TL;DR : No, Not applicable, No, Probably, no, Campfires.
When can we get another episode of Dragon z ball pee pee?

I believe debuff duration can impact it in a negative way, causing the explosion to happen faster basically. Vampirism seems to be a global multiplier that happens after all other calculations, so i could see it playing a role here. I wouldn't see MH scales it, as it's not your spell, but someone else's being cast on you. Buff duration from high will should also not affect it as it's a debuff, not a buff. scaling wouldn't happen as the boss doesnt have different stats between the same difficulty raids, so it's damage is fixed per difficulty.

[shrewd cove]

Speaking of the MH part. Doesnt your MH and your buff duration affect spells casted on you though?

[gloomy latch]

his content is good, his balancing is funny to watch (like a pendulum), his time is impossibly limited by the bullshit legal crap since day 1. He needs help or people he can trust delegating work to. I heard they had 80 employees, i don't really know how many of them actually work on the game though.

[gloomy latch]

buff duration yes, MH no. If your MH was the factor, clerics would all be ass healers. On the other hand, Buff duration focused builds are druid healer's favourite target.

[shrewd cove]

like cleric bless is affected by your buff duration. And I could swear that your mh gets added with cleric heals

And isnt having a high buff duration bad for healing

[gloomy latch]

definate yes about buff duration, solid nope on the heals though

[shrewd cove]

Lets say you have 50%, and the druid spell heals for 20 hp over 10 seconds. Wouldnt it be 20 hp over 15 seconds

[gloomy latch]

You would think so, except buff duration doesnt extend the time between healing ticks, so for druids, buff duration amounts to being a 2nd multiplier for healing throughput.

[shrewd cove]

or would it be 30 hp over 15 seconds because it heals at the rate of 2hp/second and not actually 20 hp within 10 seconds

[gloomy latch]

I'll give you some maths, standby:

If a druid has 20 MH, 30% magical power, and 50% buff duration (this was my standard build with demon's gear a while back):

Nature's touch (others):
(15 health + (0.5 scaling x 20 = 10)) x ((0.5 scaling x 0.30 mag power) + 1) =
(15 + 10) x 1.15 = 28.75 health over 12 seconds.

Nature's touch (with buff duration of 50%):
same calculations as above = 28.75 health over 12 seconds x 1.5 = 43.125 health over 18 seconds.

[shrewd cove]

I get it, thats why buff duration is soo good with tb, because its not actually 100 hp over 100 seconds its 100 seconds of 1hp/sec healing. and extending that extends the healing

I assume thats how all HoTs work, and why high end druids over long fights accumulate so much more healing than clerics

Well that and like the 3hp/sec aura they can build

[gentle stratus]

This season has sucked. Its completely killed my buzz for the game. Im struggling to stay committed, it's just absolutely unbalanced to hell lol

[shrewd cove]

Agree the balance of this season is terrible, ms meta is the worst its ever been, uniques sway violently between utter trash and legitimately game breaking (healing from projectiles, over 100% action speed, etc) Drop rates have been all over the place all wipe so far, particularaly for bosses and mobs

However, pve, new nameds, new mobs, new craftables, boss summoning is cool asf, but the 3rd partying/ratting is not

The worst part of the season has been things that numbers could change. Personally I would not mind them reverting uniques and ms gear but I feel like that is definetly not going to happen

[gentle stratus]

Plus the ultra mid maxing of base level pvp. Its got brand new players dealing with Chad Mc only plays this game getting insta popped by rogues, or just ran down and two pieced by clerics. This is the most unfriendly state it's ever been in for new people and while im not new new, I don't have the same level of knowledge as the 1118lvl fame dude with every season item and who's playing this game all day. Shits ruff. Its just nice to know im not the only one saying it

Tldr; I suck a bit and I want this to be a slightly more friendly experience. Just a smidgen.

[gloomy latch]

I updated my math above if you wanna check it. MH is absolutely insane rn with Uniques. Druids can get up to 8 hp/tick from their aura if they max MH. The theoretical max i've thought out is 12 + 12 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 3 + 3 = 62. That's Chest/Neck/Ring/Ring/Mh/Oh/Demon grips/Demonclads at max rolls possible through Uniques or possible rolls.

That means aura will scale like 1 + 62 x 0.1 = 7.2 hp / tick. This is increased by 1 more hp per tick with lifebloom aura, but honestly why bother with that at this point lol

[shrewd cove]

Im certainly not new, I've played for 3 wipes (including this one) and only 1 full wipe in its entirety. But I agree that this game is definetly the sweatiest and the min maxing is the worst its ever been. Before you could still kill people in min maxed gear with decent stuff you found. Now? Absolutely no chance in hell. Especially in hr

[shrewd cove]

Found the 200k druid arena kit for end of season once arena is un minted lmao

[gloomy latch]

i agree at least for 225's, but one thing that i am grateful for is that we have enough players now to have dissected lobbies for more balanced gameplay. Old states of the game would've just been dead lobbies. We also had alot more power from perks i think than from gear back then.

[gloomy latch]

I'm only 1 piece in so far, costed 15k EARLY this wipe lol

[shrewd cove]

Did one game of 225+ last night with my friend planning to fight lich. Both of us got 3 tapped by a druid in almost all unqiues. 30% action speed, 329 ms (330 in panther), 58 agi, 140 something hp, 53% pdr

He had a unique fox pendant with 60 additional armor lmao. Spear had 11.9% action speed

[gloomy latch]

Yeah, 40/40+ builds for druids getting more common too. Shit's pretty strong even without uniques to be able to stack both bear and panther. You get the pdr from bear gear, and all the stat stacking is easy now to fight as both. Bear multiplies pdr by 50% increase, you only need to hit like 43.5% to max out in bear form

[shrewd cove]

He was all in with agi action dex and action speed. Vigor/hp rolls too

He had an adventurer tunic with 12 agi

[gloomy latch]

another way to do it, just roll your strength into dex i guess. Wouldn't do as good against pdr players though, just my opinion. Panther attacks are pretty wide, so i find they are easy to block with a shield if you know where to aim

[shrewd cove]

I had a heater, popped smite and by the time I was done with my swing I was dead

Well, 2 swings I hit him before he hit me

Only had like 30 something pdr, I built will. Ran spell memory as well

[thin bear]

Where the fucking patch??

[wispy garden]

ms meta is fun, people have been complaining about ranged and kiting forever

[static frost]

For alot of people, this was not the answer

[thin bear]

WHERE PATCH WHERE PATCH WHERE PATCH WHERE PATCH WHERE PATCH WHERE PATCH WHERE PATCH WHERE PATCH WHERE PATCH WHERE PATCH WHERE PATCH WHERE PATCH WHERE PATCH WHERE PATCH WHERE PATCH WHERE PATCH WHERE PATCH

[cosmic swan]

Probably tomorrow or the day after that

[gloomy latch]

MS meta IS ranged and kiting. Rangers running around with 330 ms bow out. racecar Clerics and fighters cant even catch them if they run knockback too lol. Warlocks have the same thing going with TM, but less strong.

[tulip pagoda]

does anyone have any idea what the loot state for arena lost items will be?

are we just buying bis arena kits all wipe? or will it be minted again?

OH BOY ANOTHER TWITCH CHAT UPDATE YAY

[left fossil]

Last week it was buy from market. I sold my SSF stuff. If its SSF this week im gonna be so done with this patch lol

[subtle heart]

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[tulip pagoda]

yeah i know it was last week. still zero word on arena

[still geyser]

I havent been playing this long, but seeing the balancing and drops, combine that with the boss fights being unpredictable on drop rates, and the toxicity of in game interaction with others....this game is terrible. I've logged some hours on this and it's just trash, it's obscene the shit they let go....streamers are the worst.

[cosmic swan]

Ty, it's terrible that he keep doing that... They litteraly said that they used to split the info on too many channel and will work on that and SDF keep speaking in streamer chat

[tulip pagoda]

but 0-24 will be back again! who didn't see that coming?

you know, when i started playing this game i thought for sure the yo-yo talk was all just retohric. people complaining, no way it could be that bad right? 4 months later. it is. it is that bad.

[left fossil]

Idk why its so hard for them to post stuff in announcements rather than sharing info with only a few streamers

[umbral tinsel]

In the dark, torch-lit depths of a dungeon in Dark and Darker, a rogue named Slickshadow crouched behind a barrel, twirling a poisoned dagger with all the smugness of someone who had just gotten away with stealing from their own party… twice.

“Tonight,” he whispered, “the druid dies.”

His target? Borkleaf, a druid known for two things: healing others with suspiciously smelly herbs, and turning into a very, very angry bear at the slightest inconvenience. Last time someone sneezed on his campfire, Borkleaf bear-slammed them into a wall so hard they respawned with PTSD.

But Slickshadow had a plan. "I strike fast. I strike hard. I strike before he goes full Winnie the Murderpooh."

He crept through the corridor, his daggers glowing faintly with poison, his boots making the soft whisper of death against the stone. Borkleaf stood in a chamber ahead, humming a gentle tune to a glowing mushroom while crafting tea from moss.

Perfect.

Slickshadow lunged, daggers flashing—“Time to di—”

POOF.

Too late.

In an instant, the druid exploded into a ten-foot-tall wall of snarling fur and paws.

“Oh,” said Slickshadow, now suspended in the air by one ankle, caught in a bear claw like a squeaky toy. “You bear-ly gave me a chance.”

The bear snorted.

“You don’t have to maul me,” Slickshadow pleaded, “we could—OH GOD MY SPLEEN!”

The next few moments were a blur of claws, yelps, and the rogue discovering that yes, you can be suplexed by a bear.

Later, Borkleaf returned to human form, dusting himself off and sipping his moss tea. He poked the unconscious rogue with a stick.

“Next time,” he muttered, “bring honey.”

If I go in base kit, I leave min maxed, doesnt make too much of a difference to me

They try to satsify the majority not the minority, not enough people were playing 0-24 so they removed it, not enough people were playing Servers so guess what, they removed server selection

[marble fiber]

Do we know the rewards for the wipe's quests yet or not?

[glossy cave]

WHEN DOES ARENAS COME OUT IM A GEAR FEAR TIMMY AND DONT WANT TO LOSE MY BIS

[umbral tinsel]

When and where did they say that

[peak socket]

is there still a 0-24 bracket

[marble fiber]

No but a 0-224

[peak socket]

awww why bruh that was most of the fun i had

[desert orchid]

So is normals goona have 0-24 and 25-124 now?

[static frost]

Idk about 0-24, but they said in a Q&A i think it was, that normals is where a majority of players play

[peak socket]

are they readding it?

[umbral tinsel]

Based of what I know, which is you just found out that they removed 0-24 leads me to believe you haven't been keeping up to date with the game" I also know that game developers don't just show up and talk about things on random twitch streams, if there is something the devs want you to know, it'd be found in announcement, these facts have lead me to believe that you sir, are full of BS

[static frost]

Sdf has actually been popping up in twitch chats tho 😂

[desert orchid]

i almost feel bad for the timmies who find 0-124gs to have too much of a "gear gap" where they cry day and night on discord and reddit for it to be removed

guess they got their wish

[honest skiff]

does anyone know when arena comes out

[glossy cave]

IN THE DIDDY ERA OF 15000BC

[umbral tinsel]

Same here, but Im going to forever cry about the fact that since they removed server selection, I have been rubberbanding like crazy

[limpid topaz]

Do we know if religion is coming up this week?

[desert orchid]

i hope not i havent paid off c*ckatrice unique items yet

[distant goblet]

Where can I find how many people go into each map like goblin and frost? And is it different in HR/duo/tro?

[gusty granite]

@glad thunder did they teach you to communicate with your community via twitch chat rather than the community discord while also constantly tanking your own game with back and forth changes, causing the game to go nowhere in the long run, in business school?

It's bizarre they choose to communicate via random twitch chats rather than the community discord

[timber wraith]

No content this wipe and the devs still lock quests and crafts for a month.

[sick vortex]

ironmace is just shy sometimes~

[timber wraith]

They are shot

[static frost]

Just another thing they do completely wrong

[gusty granite]

Welcome to Ironmace, where back and forth is our slogan because making a game is hard, so rather than do that we decided that every change we make we will revert, and then later revert the revert

[distant goblet]

Where can I find how many people go into each map like goblin and frost? And is it different in HR/duo/tro?

[tall pulsar]

Remove adventure mode too many que options , add back 0-25 and 124+ to normals

[static frost]

It changes through out the day, and depends on group size. Don't think u can find actual numbers tho

[desert orchid]

can they make gold coins stack to at least 30 like silver coins do

[spark crystal]

South American server is dead, PvE mode on HR

[wispy garden]

if you think thats what it is maybe your just bad

[rotund axle]

How large is a Cyclops Eye? Is it 1x1 or 2x2 size?

[trail copper]

yo can anyone help whenever i launch the game on epic it keeps saying cant connect to the servers

[hard rock]

Anyone else think this game is awful

And wonder why we even play it in the first place.

[sharp isle]

im so tired of this game

[teal tendon]

2x2

[rotund axle]

Tysm

[runic shell]

DRUID NERF WHEN?

[frosty magnet]

lmao how is 0-24 is even field? casters are shit in squire gear so is rogue and ranger. barb fighter and bard dominated those lobbies if you think that 0-124 is just stat check then sorry to say this but you suck at the game

[teal tendon]

anyone knows, last quest for Fortune Teller, where u need to "Interact with Treasure Hoard" 3 times in Ice Cavern, bugged? I tried to do it multiple times, doest count for me :sadge:

[thin trellis]

did something happen? Just woke up

[static frost]

If they are shit in squire gear. Then it is a stat check

[stark vine]

it only counts for the first interaction

[sharp isle]

yeahhh i think youre actually the one that sucks at the game

[silver dune]

when patch?

[stark vine]

takes 3 runs of you being the first to loot it , so someone else already came in and hit the pile once (also for their quest)

[teal tendon]

ye, thought so, but it didnt even count to 1, still 0 out 0. I Interacted with hoard in different games, even in HR and Normals, still 0/0

[teal tendon]

ok, thanks, gonna try that

[cobalt junco]

@zinc sparrow Give warlocks the Kris dagger again. It's a sacrificial dagger, warlocks sacrifice hp for spells, cmon

[polar drift]

hello what perks for sorcerer

[spark crystal]

Search for a youtube video called “Ultimate sorcerer build guide”

[haughty cargo]

Anyone have a spare epics game legendary account they are not using :D?

[outer garden]

what time does arena start

[median vapor]

Ranger quiver when?

[junior wyvern]

Nah demon warlocks with daggers were cancer, lore doesnt matter

[whole trail]

Game doesn’t even work on Epic anymore

[raw venture]

When do arenas open?

[junior wyvern]

I still cant believe dagger fighter is also still a thing... most glue eating build in the game aside from smite cleric

[haughty cargo]

heard you can transfer over the legendary status sort of thing

[abstract apex]

so based.

[raw venture]

When do arenas open?

[glad horizon]

honest question do people who run luck in adventure mode think its worth

[whole trail]

Since a lot of people in Adventure mode are new, they probably don’t know that luck doesn’t really do anything

[devout pollen]

Its not about the new people bro its about the dudes running 500 luck bards quick looting the map with 0 risks

[rapid ridge]

Fwiw 500nluck doesn't mean a whole lot

[devout pollen]

you get the point

[glad horizon]

at best you get epic items, i can clear cave troll in my gear in 1 min with zero luck and still get epics

[loud silo]

@rapid ridge it does when it kills the experience for new players.

[neat urchin]

Yes and no. I have a luck kit at near 300 without luck potion and it seems like I just get a bunch more blues

[devout pollen]

you can farm pile and make alot per run homie

you can get keys also in adventure

[glad horizon]

yea i feel like luck is a wasted stat, especially in high roller or norms will you will get stat checked

[rapid ridge]

What in the world are you talking about?

[vital light]

any1 else having server issues rn?

[loud silo]

@rapid ridge when a new player tries to play the game, but the entire map is looted already, leaving nothing for them, it ruins the experience for them. Is that really such a hard concept to understand?

[rapid ridge]

And this has what to do with luck being a stat?

[upper jungle]

It baffles me that the dev gives updates on what is going on in a random stream rather than the hecking official discord or website...

[vital light]

new player experience is weird af rn, they dont have to deal will pvp which is a plus for mobbing. But looks harder to find, and norms is almost impossble

[loud silo]

@rapid ridge it does when you have 10 bards using it. It's not the fact that luck is being used, it's the fact that its creating a situation that ruins the experience. Again. Is this REALLY such a hard concept to understand?

I get that you need to look at it in a slightly abstract way, but c'mon man. It's almost as if you can't rotate the breakfast inside your smoke alarm or something

[rapid ridge]

Please read my whole responses before typing an @ to me again. It seems you're the one not understanding

[whole trail]

All they did was ask for clarification, not that serious

[rapid ridge]

All I said was luck doesn't mean much and bro frothed at the mouth over something else

[loud silo]

@whole trail it's not serious, until the game dies because of it. The game is going the route of mordhou at this point.

It's not "something else" when it's directly related. I'm sorry that you can't understand an abstract concept, but damn dude. Just try.

[static frost]

The game isn't going to die because vet players are hiding in pve.

[loud silo]

Again. It will, because there will be no new players. And the vet players WILL (are) slowly quit and not come back

The game is going the route of mordhau. That's exactly what happened to that game. No new players because the skill curve destroyed any experience they could have had, and then the vets started to leave, and now it's got 50 dudes who live and breathe the game but that's all they've got.

[vestal ridge]

how do u parry with longsword?

[loud silo]

Turn your brain off, hold M2 and wait til you hear a ding.

[whole trail]

Games die, it happens all the time. Enjoy it while we have it.

[loud silo]

@whole trail oh I quit a long while back. I just like to browse discords while I'm on break.

[whole trail]

That’s sad

[loud silo]

@whole trail whys that?

I'm enjoying myself.

[white lance]

I'll stop slurping PVE mode when arena becomes SF and incentives me to find my gear instead of buying it, lmao

[whole trail]

It’s always the ones that don’t even play the game anymore

[loud silo]

@whole trail the thing is, I WANT to enjoy this game. But I can't anymore, because of how shit it's gotten. And clearly I'm not the only one who feels that way.

[glad horizon]

game is fine tbh

[loud silo]

As it slowly dies.. ok. Check steam charts, man. Last year this month it had around triple to quadruple the amount of active players.

[leaden abyss]

Anyone know what time arenas will be up today? (Time zone plz)

At work can’t check dnd

[young heart]

do uniques only drop on hr bosses?

[glad horizon]

no, in hr they can just be found in chests or mobs

[tame perch]

anyone able to give a rundown of the trading post abbreviations.

like 3gk, i do know 'sk' means skull key

[slow rune]

Gk = goblin kok

[fervent anvil]

no real point in bothering with trade post right now. prices are all over the place

[heavy anvil]

if you mean how to riposte you have to press the block button after blocking an attack

[azure mesa]

anyone else dc'ing when entering lobby and cant get back in? (eu)

[tame perch]

had that on ice abyss

[azure mesa]

but not on other maps?

[tame perch]

nop, only happened there during the transition when spectating my friend

[heavy cradle]

Same here ... either it tells you to wait while it connects or it spits you out in the lobby gearless 😦

[azure mesa]

same happened to me when spectaing but then we went for another game and i cant get in

[eternal pawn]

Which merchant is for boss summons? i wanna do a wyvern but havent played in the meta with summons yet

[tame perch]

alchemist

[wanton otter]

They're prolly working on water map rn. 🐀

[azure mesa]

its a eu thing i think, it works when i use vpn

[steel juniper]

Gk is gold key, wts is wanting to sell, wtt is wanting to trade

[vestal ridge]

so you hit m2 after holding m2 to block?

[steel juniper]

Yes

[vestal ridge]

ok ty

[steel juniper]

Is killing people in hr the best way to make money lowkey

[tame perch]

so long as you kill a stacked guy or some poor sucker trying to farm *cough me"

[white lance]

It's over..

[jolly snow]

is there any viable way to kill all of the warlord's soldiers as a fighter?

[heavy cradle]

EU servers are F*CKED!

[fiery plaza]

are gk prices stable

[wispy lichen]

6-9k depending on the time of day

[azure mesa]

yep

[molten jewel]

Guys let's just forget about Dark and Darker and instead talk about who's gonna be elected to be the new pope

[white lance]

It dosnt matter, none of that matters.

[molten jewel]

He could be any colour or rarity this time

[steel juniper]

Long sword parry

[molten jewel]

Oh I'm sorry, buster. Your little dorky videogame matters more?

[white lance]

Yes.

[molten jewel]

Yeah I'm telling on you to the new pope

He'll send the plagues on your ass

[white lance]

Thank God.

[silk bluff]

the monkk is so fun

[vale pumice]

anyone having issues with voip rn? been working fine for ever. now me and my buddies cant see each others voip symbol in lobby or hear eachother prox in game or party chat

[white lance]

Yeah, I've been called the no no word like 10 times yesterday.

[vale pumice]

did they turn it off or smthn? was working fine yesterday

[white lance]

you probably accidentally hit the voip off key, either that or your input device isnt being seen by the game.

[vale pumice]

we can see our own symbol lighting up when we speak into it. just cant hear each other in lobby party chat or prox in game or see eachothers

[white lance]

EU server?

[vale pumice]

nah us east

[tough stratus]

What's the best counter for a ranger who has to deal with someone with a heater shield or just a shield in general?

[void folio]

anyone else getting kicked from their game????

[blissful sparrow]

can't connect to servers at all, while my friends can play

[polar drift]

can you get trolls pelt from adventure mode

[vale pumice]

bruhhhh idk if im chat banned for some random reason or if this game is just broken again

[void folio]

is the game just broke on EU now or what?

[vale pumice]

love not being able to talk on a team based pvp game

[carmine anvil]

guys idk why my settings always restart when i rejoin any solutions

[steel juniper]

?

[void folio]

good game just wasted 20 k on a kit for it too just kick me and send me back to the lobby with no loot

[rare pecan]

Just here to say DO NOT bring back 0-24 lobbies. 0-124 or even 0-224 is good for just questing and I don't have to remove every item I find after each extraction. Squire gear feels so bad.

[polar drift]

can you get trolls pelt from adventure mode

[void folio]

cant even socket my gems with true phys cuz the option dont show

[thin trellis]

I think I found my class 😄

[heavy anvil]

correct

[wind robin]

yes

[thin trellis]

it's Warlock!

[thin bear]

Rapier is literally fucking useless this patch

[wind robin]

daggers still feel dookie as well

[fervent anvil]

good

[thin trellis]

I think I found my class. Know any good warlock builds? 😄

[cold coral]

nerf rogue

[grand beacon]

wats the issue with 0-24 and 24 to like 124 for example, everyone is happy. 0-24 solos was by far the post played game mode

[cold coral]

@coarse portal just play rogue

[vestal ridge]

i’m kinda new to this game so idrk but why does it seem like some classes are so broken compared to others

the balancing seems like an issue imo

[vital pagoda]

cockatrice is a scam.. i have it fully upgraded gettint 5 gems/day but was away for more than 2 days and it doesnt get more if u dont collect

bad design

[vocal flicker]

is the Icy Fortune quest bugged ?

[desert orchid]

does anyone have a max dps spear troll guide? Like I know how to do it already but i want to be able to do it faster

[surreal arch]

Each class has strong point I would say.
Each has positive and negative.
Often it switches based on GS tier you are playing on.
Also gear (Proper or random) does a LOT.
Brackets are wild now kinda. So.. ya you can meet all.

[river whale]

when new patch ? when balance ? when new content ?!?

[vestal ridge]

yeah but does warlock not seem a lil op

maybe i just dont know how to counter but i ALWAYS die to a half decent warlock

[wet notch]

I just want new quests to drop so I can use the Rubysilver im sittin on

[unkempt ibex]

i just want close this PVE mode from the game... what is this dump

[surreal arch]

If you catch warlock as surprise, it ain't that hard.
Rogue, druid can own warlock like nothing if they start.
If you let lock star it is hard.

[surreal arch]

Do not play it if you do not like it, what is the problem?

[unkempt ibex]

split community...

make option to grow easy...

[vestal ridge]

I honestly just feel as though i dont know how to fight that well in the game so im just getting rolled lmao

[surreal arch]

The community would be split anyway.. from those who would not play at all and those who would still complain.

[vestal ridge]

i want arena to come out so i can practice pvp

[surreal arch]

PvE is best thing that came for new players in half the year minimum.

[vestal ridge]

also is arena just practice or do u get loot from it?

[wet notch]

Almost every PvEvP extraction game has a PvE now. Community was always split brother, some ppl prefer the PvE to learn lets say Warlock/Druid, or have a casual session

[pearl relic]

is dog collar a quest item this season

[unkempt ibex]

its beause some poeple like you with a bisounours mentality

go play pokemon if you want PVE

[heavy anvil]

if you play ranged classes you can stand far enough that curses wont land and if lock misses he will lose a bit of health. Of course moving in an unexpected way can help make it difficult to land curses and blocking with shields too

[surreal arch]

The problem is if you get proper gear, and what class you play and such.
But yes warlock is strong if you do not know how to play against him, but still you hear mostly people be against druid-rogue-cleric currently.

[unkempt ibex]

the begining of the end for dark and darker... PVE MODE... comon dev

[vestal ridge]

ahh

[vestal ridge]

@surreal arch @heavy anvil do either of you know?

[heavy anvil]

For classes that you find hard to defeat, I recommend trying to play the class.

[wet notch]

I wouldnt be upset if they isolated PvE and PvP questing and loot, ie, PvP acct and PvE acct. Tarkov did it that way

[surreal arch]

Without PvE they lost over 50% of playerbase and gained noone.
With PvP there are actually new people trying out game because they can try to learn without people with 500-2000h farming them like animals before they can survive against skeletons.

[vestal ridge]

okok ty for the tips

[heavy anvil]

The loot that you bring in doesn't drop in arena

[wet notch]

But I also like not going broke in 5 bad runs and having the opportunity to go get more gold if needed

[vestal ridge]

so do u get nothing except experience from it

[wet notch]

atm, yes Spicy

[surreal arch]

Arena is usually for ranking + rewards for your rank later, not for loot from all I know.

[wet notch]

unless u loot a PvE mob in arena then yes u get out with i

[river whale]

I dont think you should be able to get boss mats from pve mode and mats in genral should be only available in pvp mode

[heavy anvil]

You get no loot yeah

[unkempt ibex]

So if it's just for practice, you shouldn't be able to complete quests and get blue or purple items in PVE mode...

[surreal arch]

Chances for boss drops in PvE are currently at 0.00X or such, no?

[unkempt ibex]

this is affect pvp player for sure

[wet notch]

Are you upset that more players are utilizing gear as opposed to going in in Squire gear, making them an easier target for you?

[river whale]

my friend farmed like 10 trolls pelts in pve mode so I dont think its 0.00x

[wet notch]

Look large picture man, its great for the playerbase

[unkempt ibex]

if you need a pratice mode go create a practice mode and not a PVE MODE ..

[surreal arch]

Oh he is damn lucky.
I tried to do some farm with my bard 460luck and got fukin nothing, not even damn gems or rings or anything.

[verbal creek]

was playing with three friend when all of a sudden one of my friends got disconnected by "abnormal condition of behavior" does any one knows what could be that?

he wasnt cheating or anything like that

[wet notch]

PvE puts more gear into rotation, I can't tell you how many wipes I played where I would just wing it with the cheapest stuff I could find.

[unkempt ibex]

More PVE for more KID

[wet notch]

Now I feel like the market is healthy, and the PvP interactions are more balanced with gear availability

You're upset with a feature that largely improves the playerbase and overall improves replayability.

[umbral tinsel]

Frost mountain should be removed even though it's my favorite map, I know all the spawn points/high population spots on the map, yet every time I rush them, not a single player... Ever

except in solos

[surreal arch]

If they completely cut off PvE from.. I wanted to continue but after his last commend I believe he is probably 13 based on the way he writes so.. not even trying to respond anymore.
You can't get any legendary or super special items in PvE.
Drops are lower.
Great for new players or if you just want "Stress free dungeon diving experience" 🤷‍♂️
Not everything has to be PvP junkies enthusiast.

[surreal arch]

You mean from PvP or what you mean?

[tame glen]

whta is the token of honor and whats it worth??

[vestal ridge]

is it worth it to buy a kit for barbarian or should i just run squire gear

[wet notch]

Yeah, he either streams or has no responsibilities during the day

[surreal arch]

That is the current problem.
Last season we had 0-24 GS bracket.
That way you could just roll squire gear + 1 green or blue item based on your class, and go from game to game quick fast no trade needed.

Now you start 1-124.. so if you go squire gear, you can find person with tweaked out gemmed 12X gear that will delete you from existence.

[wet notch]

0-24 in turn sucked for magic based classes

[limpid topaz]

Any news on religion? When it comes and if its the same system as last season?

[surreal arch]

@wet notch I enjoyed it with both my sorc + warlock tho.
You could go with no weapons on sorc and get blue neck with true magic + magic power and you was actually hitting hard.
Or warlock with necklace with +2-3 healing and you were again.. quite strong to dot around 🙂 Was fun.
Druid was.. good and bad at same time. You need basically all stats, which you wont get from squire at start, so you are "meh" in one or both forms.

[wet notch]

I do like the update tbh, as I said before, gear is cheap on market because more items are in rotation. And I can actually go learn a boss hands on in PvE as opposed to watching a YT vid and wasting kits

[surreal arch]

If they do it like last season.. it will be to nuke market and reduce value of items to nothing again -_-
Quite sucked to restart it in middle of season..

[surreal arch]

I wanted PvE for long time, so I think it is really good for new players, and game needs new players, it is just bleeding otherwise.
Last thing I need is to make squire buy from the "Trade" automatically, and I'm happy 😄 Just set it to buy cheapest green "pre set" items.. so you can go to that damn 1-124 with at least green set, without spending time in trade clicking through windows.

[wet notch]

Yeah that would be super nice tbh

I loved PvE Tarkov and I love PvE DND

[surreal arch]

Do not make it OP so it would be destroying market like some AH bots from WoW min maxing.. (Like it would snipe best stats + rolls automatically) but some "general buyout", if you are forced to play in that GS bracket anyway.. would be nice.
Do not like it? Do not use it, buy old way.
If you want to go from game to game not caring that much .. why not set something like maximum price for set and let it go ham.
Funny Rng challenge with it.

[olive beacon]

What does the Expressman's "Post Express" do?

[jolly snow]

genuine question but how do i make money. bc at the moment it seems like there isnt a SINGLE SOURCE of making money without getting 3rd partied or something along those lines apart from pve mode

[surreal arch]

If you go to twich for "twitch drops" you get rewards in the "Post express"

[olive beacon]

Thanks! <3

[surreal arch]

Currently no twitch drops are for game I believe, but when they were.. you could get some Pots and such as rewards, and had to grab them from post.

[surreal arch]

Unless you go for high tier pvp to clean people of their good items.
Clean treasure throwes.
Go for goblets, rings and such of rare+ tiers, with some luck you can do couple hundreds or even above 1k each game if you grab good stuff.
If you are the high tier player, ya no idea there if you need 20k+ for a set 😄 probably the pvp part?

[zealous oxide]

imagine getting mad cuz noobs prefer to learn the game in peace as oppose to gettin dumpster'd by 3khr+ players omg shocker

[umbral tinsel]

Yes, pvp

[unkempt ibex]

not my problem go play other game

[zealous oxide]

or you could you seem to have the issue

[unkempt ibex]

get goood noob

[zealous oxide]

just lol

[umbral tinsel]

Why do you think they have PVE mode?

[zealous oxide]

re scroll re read im not trashing pve lol ima ll for it

[surreal arch]

People like you are the reason why games like these (Hardcore PvP only) are literally dying out, or get filled by bullshit microtrans or P2W things to even make money.. cause they can't survive with dying communities.
You gotta work with people, not against...

[zealous oxide]

GRXTON seem to have the issue with pve and people learning the game 😄

[unkempt ibex]

So if it's just for practice, you shouldn't be able to complete quests and get blue or purple items in PVE mode...

[clever rampart]

@unkempt ibex make your own game

[unkempt ibex]

i make too

[unkempt ibex]

omw dont worry

[zealous oxide]

when they make the quests pvp orientated this argument will hold some point but atm its all kill ai mobs and fetch items all pve shitt get fo your high horse bud

[umbral tinsel]

Hey if it were up to me there would be no PvE... It's the fight or flight mentality based off psychology, a lot of the people in this game choose flight instead of facing adversity and improving, challenges help you improve.

[surreal arch]

It is different to learn game now compared to 1-2years ago...
When everyone was learning, everyone was +- on same tier.
Now you have people with hundreds - thousands of hours in game.
Know every corner, every NPC, every movement of every class...
New players can barely survive the skeleton, meanwhile there comes the dude that "Matrix"s around skeletons swinging around, while slapping the new guys ass...
It is not even at all.

[faint plume]

anyone know what the cockatrice quest line is for I finished all the quests hopefully its something cool

[unkempt ibex]

kid

mentality

[surreal arch]

You need PvE or something of that sort to let people learn the game...
Also not everyone actually loves the PvP, why not?... Those who dislike it, wont join your PvP even if you delete PvE, they just stop playing..

[umbral tinsel]

It's my first season, and I'm richer than 90% of the playerbase because I chose to learn pvp off rip

[zealous oxide]

coming from the guy saying you have to pvp or play a different game 😄

[unkempt ibex]

its the begening its a full pvp game!! i play since alpha 1

[static frost]

Soon he will enjoy pvping the same 5 teams over and over

[surreal arch]

It is quite weird to be fair.
Most of the other seasons had always quests "Kill XY players in the X map" "Kill Class XY in the map Z"
Now I had truly no Pvp Quest when I think about it.

[unkempt ibex]

you will never be good at pvp because you play pve noob

so sad

[zealous oxide]

and the games been dying out since pve brings new player who wille ventually master the mobs and easy boss's and want more of a challange and will join pvp when there ready pushing them away before they start is the wrong mentality to gow ith

[surreal arch]

First learn how to use grammar before you start being rowdy in the chat. You will never be good at pvp, if you do not survive pve... first survive pve, then you can learn how to survive pvp.

[wet notch]

You're opinion is valid and holds weight here GRXTON, you are a true gamer and deserved to be treated as such

[zealous oxide]

a guy that cant avoid 3 skellies whilst getting chased by a 330ms 3k hr player who can avoid 30 mobs and whoop your ass isnt learning anything

[unkempt ibex]

continue with your teddy bear mentality. you'll just kill this game

[surreal arch]

They do not have to, you already started.

[prime pulsar]

I mean that's how I learned.

[static frost]

Pretty sure they elitist attitude will kill it quicker

[faint plume]

I think apart from pve helping new players learn its a cool way to test builds

[zealous oxide]

and it was probs painful rage inducing and you probs considered uninstalling a few times

[prime pulsar]

Nah it's just a game I wanted to learn so I grinded it out

[zealous oxide]

never got mad and said fck this game?

[unkempt ibex]

teddy bear community...

[surreal arch]

You can look at even WoW.. raids are made for elites, with specified Addons.. without them it is basically impossible to do Mythic tiers.
Game is made with them in mind, instead of normal players.
"How to from 15mil to 1ish mil players" guide..

[zealous oxide]

turned it off due to anger came back the next day 😄

[prime pulsar]

Nah I don't usually get upset it's just a game. If I did it was at my teammate who I knew IRL

[unkempt ibex]

teddy bear community...
we like star and pink color 😏

[sullen anchor]

ultimate kek

[lapis quest]

So you think your rich but your not

[runic shell]

SMITE NEEDS A NERF

[surreal arch]

Yep, there is a few people that is willing to go against everyone at current level.
Problem is.. less and less people in the game, most people still in game are on high mid-elite tier, so majority of newbies do not stay even couple hours.
If you want to keep game alive, you need more people.

[unkempt ibex]

why ? its pve

[zealous oxide]

if you want to be a super HC pvp only elitist thast fine but dont try to push that narrotive on others we play whast fun to us not to appease how u want us to play bud let people be

[runic shell]

?

[zealous oxide]

smites pve?

[lapis quest]

Do you know what game your talking about

[surreal arch]

I always say that super elites have the arena, which should be based on the rank, so they can beat each other the best vs best.

[zealous oxide]

coming from what hes saying it sounds like he wants tos tomp noobs and avoid better players

[static frost]

This is hilarious given the recent conversation

[surreal arch]

And those players wont stay = game slowly bleeds out lower tier of players that do not have time or will to "Git gud".

[unkempt ibex]

dev no need balance the game!! its pve now

[lapis quest]

Yea their is no early game content and adventure mode is flooded with more experienced players

[prime pulsar]

I get rekt in hr still 😂

[lapis quest]

Are you real

[zealous oxide]

go stomp those that care for pvp server 224+ you wont find many in other brackets

eu servers kinda dead go NA

vpn's exist

[surreal arch]

I do not play HR at all now.
Not enjoying the "thrill" of search for blue..
I would enjoy HR PvE tho.. I like to do dungeon delving against hard mobs and bosses.
They could literally make it into adventure not pve mode, let you go and delve deep, scout out harder mobs..
Like skeleton mages that can set fire walls, normal mobs do spells and such.
In such adventure mode it would not be hard to add talents, make it separated from pvp.. ah why not.

[clever rampart]

@unkempt ibex and whats your problem? You cant harras noobs in pvp?

[lapis valley]

this game is so dead

[lapis quest]

There should be an hour cap on adventure mode, like after 100 hours you cant play it

[mellow charm]

this game is dead they focused on gear scores and pve mode instead of making content PVE mode isn't going to bring new players back gear brackets and gear scores aren't going to bring players back. In 2 years we have gotten 1 map and 2 classes

[main garden]

Next month will be a balance patch

[zealous oxide]

i wont lie i tried pvp servers as a less experianced player and it was hell u cant escape any1 due to MS being on every peice pve kinda needed for bad players to gain gold for kits

[surreal arch]

It is kinda sad and weird that players with "New player" mark on discord are saying that 😄
Not sure if dead.. but well, it could be getting more players not less 🙂

[zealous oxide]

otherwise its gnna be timmies in constant squire kits and who wants to loot that?

[static frost]

It is definitely dying

[main garden]

It’s only going down, and there’s only so many people that want to meta slsve in HR

[zealous oxide]

revert MS on all slotsand im game for pvp again

[viscid meteor]

Us west is dead like mid day but once you hit late night servers are flooded what about eu? Just in general dead?

[main garden]

With no other end game it’s definitely dying for this wipe

[zealous oxide]

until then ill marry the PVE server

[surreal arch]

I enjoyed the most the low gs, because it was fast in fast out, no stress around gear, no waste of time trading.

[unkempt ibex]

There are only two reasons to want to progress in this game. Quests and rank. Now the quests are all possible to complete in PVE. So the only goal of playing is to have a rank for the next season. There is no more competition because everyone will play in PVE to climb as high as possible and then go play in PvP with no practice!! they will come here again to cry because he die

[mellow charm]

thats going to get boring as well if you think your going to stick around 4 months till next wipe just playing pve good luck

[unkempt ibex]

soon Dev will make a PVE rank because teddy bear community are crying

[zealous oxide]

im a pve slave still learning mob patterns and practicing inferno without running from meta slaves 😄

[main garden]

Lmao this is what we need

[surreal arch]

How do you climb in PvE?

[unkempt ibex]

lol

[zealous oxide]

i still got alot of learning to do with this game mobs to master boss's to learn ect

[frank flint]

To be fair, multiple content creators have been putting out videos talking about burn out because of lack of content. I think that's a community sentiment.

[wet notch]

There are currently, during the work day, 9,793 players online rn. Peaked at 12,904 in the last 24 hrs. Pre-wipe/update, avg player base was 5k.

[unkempt ibex]

I can't believe people like you can vote.. that's why our world is falling apart

[mellow charm]

yeah thats not 4 months of content

[viscid meteor]

Ahh I gotcha I got basically everything figured out and can solo most bosses except wyvern it’s just a bit rough as a barb main

[vestal ridge]

how do i get rid of stuff in my stash i dont want?

[surreal arch]

Yep when you go in PvP to harder mobs.. they can wipe ya out if you do not know them in general.. and if you are hunted down by someone else already.. how can you even enjoy the game? 🙂

[unkempt ibex]

teedy bear mentality

[vestal ridge]

is there a garbage can or some shit

[unreal gate]

Should I be using Din of Darkness or Piercing Shrill for adventure mode?

[static frost]

12k peak early wipe is pretty bad

[zealous oxide]

father of 3 with a disabled partner its plenty of content 🙂

[wet notch]

On wipe week avg was 20k players

[mellow charm]

oh so your a casual so it doesn't matter

[viscid meteor]

That’s us west in a nutshell everyone is us west is hardcore pvp starved I get dead servers most of the time but if I run into the one other team they will chase me all the way down to hell just for a kill

[wet notch]

12k was avg in last 24 hrs, so, a Tuesday

[umbral tinsel]

From a business standpoint whoever owns the game is soon to go into serious debt

[shy juniper]

can someone tell me where tf demonflies are?

[zealous oxide]

casual until i really like the game then ill go hard i got 9k hrs in poe im not against a grind

[surreal arch]

That is also a problem as a lot of "Content creators" spent 2k+ hours in this one game.. that is still in Early access...
Every.. literally every game has same problem for "content creators".
Or am I mistaken? 🙂 which content creator that is fixed on one game, is not crying for more content?

[main garden]

What does it matter if the player count is dropping? SDFs vision is the one true god

[viscid meteor]

3rd level of ruins in hell but good luck getting all 3 killed in one run Tilly take you multiple runs probably

[mellow charm]

I remember when people where telling me pre wipe PVE MODE would retain players and add all these new players playercount has never been worse for beginning of wipe. No new content

[zealous oxide]

tarkov creators there crying for a stable game 😄

[surreal arch]

If you create too much, people (majority) who plays game hour or 2 every other day, will be lost and never learn anything and just end.
If you create too little, the hardcore gamers leave..

[main garden]

It’s lame that panther can’t exceed max move speed, they really need to fix that for Druid @glad thunder

[viscid meteor]

You need to be quite Druid is literally the most broken class in the game rn besides cleric

[surreal arch]

Oh for god sake do not mention druid 😄 we had such nice conversation without druid cryouts 😄

[faint plume]

find blood columns in hell i think theres like 5 in that room 🙂

[shy juniper]

Thank you!!

[vestal ridge]

how do i get rid of stuff in my storage?

[umbral tinsel]

The universe is God, God is the universe, I had this epiphany yesterday, Matter cannot be created nor destoryed, it can only be manipulated, we were all once part of the universe and after we're gone, will we continue to be one with the universe.

[main garden]

Are you sure? It’s just a funny animal class, panther needs to have the benefits of being a panther

[viscid meteor]

Run 40str 40agi and your panther and bear form and you’ll wipe most lobby’s including bosses easy

[faint plume]

you can sell to a merchant or if youre lvl 20 you can become a trader and sell to other players

[surreal arch]

Well it has.
But you need to combine the panther with a chicken then you are faster than anything for short while 😄

[zealous oxide]

it has the benefit of being a 330ms bear exceeding ms as panther does not need to happen

[viscid meteor]

It’s literally the most broken class rn

[frank flint]

Well that's true for every game that content creators kinda suck the game dry, but I do agree with them a bit. The game is similar to how it was 4 months ago. Endgame is fight bosses and PVP. There is nothing new to learn. And when they do implement a new idea, it's always with poor communication. IE (solo self found)

[vestal ridge]

tysm

[main garden]

Then why did SDF buff it if it is broken??? His vision couldn’t possibly be mistaken, he is god

[umbral tinsel]

Animal forms are capped in MS also anyone saying druid is the most broken is actually terrible at the game and have no idea how to play it

[zealous oxide]

druids been broken since rat form tf you mean name another class that can get thru doors or around the map like a druid?

[frank flint]

Buff druid is all I'm saying 😦 we need rats to be able to one shot a pdr barbarian with 200 hp

[static frost]

Every class that has been strong has said the same thing at its strongest, "skill issue" every time. Doesn't matter the class

[viscid meteor]

Then you haven’t been paying attention to anything dark and darker related besides yourself Druid has the fastest clear time on all bosses by a mile

[main garden]

Exactly, I knew SDFs vision was correct! We need to give Druid room to breathe by buffing panther MS to 350

[faint plume]

that would be cool to see not gonna lie

[frank flint]

Give me the gorilla then I'll play druid again 😦

[surreal arch]

A lot of people do not know how to play against druids..
Also.. I have to say that after destroying 3 teams almost solo last time with my 124 gear.. and looting their "squire gears" even I felt bad.. but it was visible they were "new" ish players.. they did not know what to do with me at all.
Good players can punish druids.

[umbral tinsel]

Okay so Druid has good mobility, lets not mention the fact that a warlock can out dps a panther, run faster than a panther, gets phantomize and infinite heals, or cleric, who can 2 tap a bear with bonk

[frank flint]

100 Barbarians vs 1 gorilla druid

[main garden]

Thank you for taking a hit of SDFs vision, players like you will keep the game alive for decades to come!

[zealous oxide]

your talking top end of gear with this description tho and 90% of players aint running that sort of gear in general there busted asf

[surreal arch]

Ay.. I do not think they made game better by making maps "bigger" with same time limit.
It makes you rush around abit more..
And with HR in current state.. where you do not see "Blue" you rush around to find one, stressed to find person or more fighting around or camping spot with it..
Not enjoyable for me.

[faint plume]

I dont think druids are overpowered at all right now, a few well placed head taps and theyre done especially if you have a way to block bear or slow them in any way

[zealous oxide]

make crypts a stand alone map

[surreal arch]

You can counter druid easily by just literally "hugging" him, if you surprise him.. he cant even turn't to anything else as rat.. then one love tap to rat.

[frank flint]

I agree, I don't think maps be bigger but on a rotation. You shouldn't be able to play every map at any time, keep things fresh by rotating them or adding special modifiers or mechanics to bosses depending on the season. Like wow raids and dungeons.

[surreal arch]

Quite a few rogues started to do it... hug druid - poison - dead rat or dead druid.

[static frost]

They have done map rotation before

[frank flint]

You've never been hugged a day in your life, you don't know how that technique is performed 😌. I only hug rogues.

[mellow kraken]

I can't find anything on how to summon high roller lich/ghostking can anyone tell me how

[surreal arch]

Lower dps to druid just forced druids to "restart" fights even more than before..
You needed Str / Agi for dps + HP or pdr..
Now you need Dex also because they slowed the animations of your dmg to the speed of the letter sent by a pidgeon.

[umbral tinsel]

The only way druid is broken is that he can bring in full blue/purple into Normals because weapons take a lot of gear score, that's literally the only way he's broken

[surreal arch]

Alchemist = you can craft items to summon HR bosses. Need to do Q.

[surreal arch]

Sorc can go same way.
It actually hurts if you go that way, feels good also to not have any weapons for me at least. And he does not need even white stuff at all.. so really maxed out "gear only"

[wispy garden]

yo

[frank flint]

Yes they have, but I'm referring to modifiers to those maps. Not just "goblin cave Thursday" "crypts Friday".

[wispy garden]

how do i report someone and send my clip

[umbral tinsel]

#in-game-reports

[frank flint]

Pray 🙏🏿

[surreal arch]

Ya, that is what I would like to see PvE to evolve into.
"Adventure mode"
Lobby for only one trio, with completely randomized small map, that goes deeper - deeper.. can make it "Rogue like" experience.
Make Mobs use more and more skills and spells from our normal classes even if needed at start.
Every 5-10 floor a boss.
Add talents to it only, so it does not screw up "balance" of pvp completely.
I think it would be fun..not sure if everyone would agree but.. if you lock this as separated mode from the "PvP" only.. noone can cry about it, am I wrong?
Pure dungeon diving with 3D, not just TopDown control as it is normal.
There is no other dungeon diving "rogue like", like Dark and Darker.

[frank flint]

Total agree, I would love to see them add back in multiclassing for pve only. Let people experiment with fun stuff without breaking the pvp focused mode.

I tried out games like dungeonborne and mistfall and they just feel like cheap whatever games in comparison to dad

[elder heart]

Dungeonborne died in like a week

[frank flint]

It did

[surreal arch]

Also could work.
Dark and Darker has solid base for PvE / Rogue Like type of game.
NPC are decently "clever" compared to a LOT of games.. it is not something superb, but still better than average I saw myself in past years..

Experimenting with PvE only would be a bit safer, just divide the trade from PvP I guess to stop people blaming the economy screw up.. not sure if it is true or not, because well.. best gear is not possible to get from PvE anyway.. and you need to do PvE to get the gear you use for PvP anyway..

[rapid stream]

Is rapier still a viable option for bard?

[late hemlock]

yas

[frank flint]

Ya they could do a lot with it, but I don't think they should add the keep gear in trios that SDF was talking about in someone's stream. I think arena is fun that it's only weekends and a mode like that shouldn't be in the normal trios. Half the fun is the potential to lose everything.

[surreal arch]

Everything is viable if you get good rolls.
But after the nerf.. I personally went for decent arming sword that has way higher base dmg.
But if you enjoy the combos more from rapier nothing will stop ya 🙂 try it out.

[frank flint]

It's honestly mid compared to other weapons after the nerf 😭

[rapid stream]

Yeah I've been having a hard time with it I'm not the biggest fan of rondel and the falchian is ok I haven't tried arming before though

[surreal arch]

I'm not sure, I'm used from WoW arenas that I keep my gear and actually get "better skill".
If I have to reset every arena if I lose, and get different stuff.. so each time it plays a bit differently.. it would be weird.. but I guess arena is mostly for Hardcore players anyway so.. well 🙂
You could have "Arena for fun" where you do not lose anything but gain nothing, and "HC" arena, which will get you ranks, but you can lose items.. but again.. dividing playerbase.

[frank flint]

Give wizard more spells 😦 why is the sorc the one with more versatile spells than my baby. Wizard should have more spells:(

[frozen socket]

Does anyone know if the cockatric merchant quests are worth it?

[desert orchid]

worth? no. Just for completion

Im on 3rd last quest and 1 out of 10 items costs 7.5k on market...

[surreal arch]

It has decent reach, and dmg is good.
Animations are not bad either.
I'm really bad at daggers so I did not try that out at all.. falchion is decent weapon but I do not like the "Side slash" as first attack.. it is annoying in trio that you really need to keep watch around to not slap your team..

[frank flint]

Sorry I might have come across wrong. Arena is perfect how it is. However in someone stream SDF commented that they were looking at adding that to trios which I think is a terrible idea.

[desert orchid]

they are just making arena 2.0

[surreal arch]

Wait you mean that "Normal trios" outside of arena would not lose items?

[frank flint]

Yes

[surreal arch]

ok that would be dumb..

[frank flint]

Also why can't magical lock close the door too 😔

Buff magical lock, so I can feel cool 😎

[surreal arch]

Not losing in PvE is saving enough I would say.. but the PvP aspect is to lose items. Even I have to say that.

[frank flint]

Give it less charges tho

[rapid stream]

@surreal arch interesting ill have to give it a try I do love the rapier animation though so who knows maybe I'll just tough it out I mainly play normals right now so my kits don't tend to make the rapier shine as much lol

[surreal arch]

I also loved the rapier past seasons.
But the dmg now was really annoyingly low.. tried out the arming sword and.. well .. first attack is the "headshot over shield" type of attack.. so.. it is best after "pierce" and pierce is 3rd in combo anyway so it is actually decent to play with.
Only thing I miss on it is ability to craft it with silver for PvE and bossing, not sure if you can do that for rapier when I think about it ..

[frank flint]

I run mega bis in pve because there is no consequences which I'm kinda like "eh towards" I wish they would make it to where you at least lost 1 legendary or above if you died in pve mode. You can't find them anyway in that mode so it would make it more punishing for gold farmers.

[surreal arch]

Lose 1 random item.. sure why not.
And ya it is also reason why not many do PvE Wyvern 😄 only thing that can actually delete your items xd

[solar hatch]

yo

[rapid stream]

@surreal arch sweet I appreciate the info I was mainly a cleric main and started playing bard a lot more a couple of seasons ago he is a lot harder to pvp some of these classes for sure lol

[solar hatch]

will we have until the end of the day tomorrow to get the gold skeleton skin

[frank flint]

I'm always in favor of losing stuff because that what makes it fun. If you die and lose nothing, it doesn't feel like there are any stakes to anything

[indigo canyon]

i just found a fine cuirass unique in le dungeons, with a 2+ all attributes roll but theres none on the market, can i get some guidance on what it would be worth xD

[surreal arch]

I understand that, but also I hate spending time on trade after every damn game.. so I enjoyed most 1-24 just.. 😄

[errant harbor]

@glad thunder why would you add PVE mode instead of making arena as a usual mode

[surreal arch]

Sorry no idea, is it ending or supposed to end?

[errant harbor]

Why i need to wait 3 fcking days to play that

[frank flint]

They are going to be adding back 1-24 lobbies with week I believe

I'm hyped

[surreal arch]

I'm just a bit sad that bard goes completely against "his" roleplay class build in my mind.

[clever rampart]

@frank flint ye i liked that low gs bracket

[errant harbor]

this game is more like roblox place than a extraction PVP shooter

[frank flint]

If only barbarians weren't so crazy in sub 24 lol

[surreal arch]

I started to play Bard because I wanted to be "support" for my team.
I expected bard to play boost music, buffs and such.
Now you start map.. get 5 buffs, only 1 is for party.. and then you can do 2 bonus 6second each buffs for party at best...
That is not BARD in my eyes...
Current bard is solo boss killer, not "Team booster"

[frank flint]

My little old man needs true magical DMG to hit someone 😦

I find wizards nerfs kinda funny because it doesn't really affect my giga bis dude. Just when I play in low gear.

[lavish spade]

why do people want to pvp in the little kid lobbys?

[errant harbor]

they get washed in 224+

[surreal arch]

No need to spend 15min in trade trying to get a gear that does not suck its toes.

[frank flint]

Ya I have a lot of kits premade, but it's still annoying

[lavish spade]

i went into them and was just running around naked with a lute they all wanted me dead!

[frank flint]

24 I just go in and use my skill 😎 not my gear

[wispy garden]

because people play 225 to winnot to troll

[lavish spade]

the lower lobby

not HR

AKA junior adventurer lobbys

[surreal arch]

Personally I do not enjoy the shrinking zone + not visible blues myself.
Just my view. Not doing HR as long as that is in there 🤷‍♂️

[frank flint]

I would argue that new players are more likely to be seen on 124 lobbies because they don't understand gear score and just bring what they like

Only the mega sweats play 24 gs 😎

[wispy garden]

what a stupid take

[frank flint]

I like hr because of the zone tbh

[lavish spade]

im going into 124s now and smurfing as hard as i possibly can

[frank flint]

I mean you'll find a lot of gearless players in those lobbies. Not sure why you would 😎

[rough ridge]

Yea bro you’re bad lol

[surreal arch]

Please change your icon before people start getting angry at druids again xd

[steel juniper]

You would probably like support cleric

[frank flint]

Average druid main

It's too late 😞

[lavish spade]

i went in naked and they wanted me dead! how many lute kills before they realize the guy in just shoes is not to be messed with

[surreal arch]

"Cleric" Should be support also in any shape or form.
Any game or roleplay.. cleric that just goes in melee and smacks a barbarian or mage over head.. that sounds so weird :d
Healer + buffer.
The "Cleric" we have in game now, the ones that do not even use spells.. should not be Clerics, it should be its own class "Paladin" I would say 🤷‍♂️

[lavish spade]

if they want PVP that bad i will bring it to them

[frank flint]

All I'm saying is I'll smack you in the head with my book and you'll be cooked 😎

[steel juniper]

Yeah there’s different ways to play it

[lavish spade]

he is a paladin with an incorrect name! always has been he has mostly paladin perks and skills

[vestal ridge]

how do i get better rated potions and bandages?

do i just need to find them in dungeons?

[surreal arch]

1. Drops randomly in games.
2. Craft them in alchemist
3. Buy on trade.
   Gotta do quests for alchemist for him to sell you the "White tier".

[vestal ridge]

i can only make poor quality ones

[frank flint]

You need to level up your merchant favor

[vestal ridge]

ohhhhh

ok tysm

[frank flint]

Jump into pve mode and quest to your hearts content

[surreal arch]

Gotta do quests for Alchemist, get rep for him and then in "Service" you can make even better. But to be fair.. most people use "Gray" anyway.

[lavish spade]

yep do some quest and you can buy better ones from them

[frank flint]

I like listening to some some green day or Paramore and fly around as druid

[surreal arch]

Basic pots are so cheap, it is usually better to buy them in bulk and chug as you need, over crafting expensive pots and die so you lose them.

[frank flint]

No, only craft bis potions, only poor people use grays 😎

[surreal arch]

I do not use bis potions, even if it is just for the reason that if I get killed, I do not like the killer to get good pots from my body 😄

[frank flint]

Pro move, unequip all your items as you're about to die so they have to work for the potions 😎

[surreal arch]

But it is really good feeling if you manage to throw away wolf pelts before you get killed, and see that they did not find them on ground.. only good thing from getting killed.

[frank flint]

You know how hard it is to see a ring on the floor, damn near impossible at times

[vestal ridge]

can u do blood dungeon in pve

[surreal arch]

Ah true.. if you know you are going to die without chance of running away..

[surreal arch]

What is "Blood dungeon"?

[frank flint]

Blood?

[vestal ridge]

is that nmot what its called

[frank flint]

You mean inferno? You need to go to the 3rd level of crypts

[vestal ridge]

the red stairs

[surreal arch]

Ruins-Crypt-Inferno
Goblin cave
Frost cave - Frozen abys

[frank flint]

Go down red stairs twice in ruins

[vestal ridge]

ty guys srry for asking noob questions lmao

[surreal arch]

So you mean Ruins - Crypt - Inferno, yes that is most popular PvE I would say.

[frank flint]

I hate the color palate of inferno 😠

Give me light and lighter when I'm in there 🤧

[surreal arch]

Frozen cave?

Ah I was wondering why would you hate light.. "Rogue tag" 😄

[stable sparrow]

update the game?????? constant crashes? no new content? the fuck are you guys doing... nexon really hit you hard huh? (maybe i need to google translate the message for you shitter devs)

[frank flint]

It's true game dead 😔

Until I get on then it's alive again 😎

[plain folio]

Real shit

[frank flint]

Am I happy with everything they do, nah not even a little. But I like the game 😎 sell the game to me and I'll make it better

[fiery fossil]

is arena tonight?

[stable sparrow]

Do the Asians have a bad education system? Maybe they need to start hiring US educated devs. This company is actually a joke after getting shit on by nexon 😂😂😂 they have no funds left ahhahaha

[astral remnant]

what ?

[stable meteor]

NEXXON'S BOT DETECTED

[astral remnant]

Nexxons's pet here

[surreal arch]

You make fun out of tiny dev team compared to a company with 9k+ people?

[safe birch]

day 47 of praying druids get f***ing deleted or nerfed

[surreal arch]

Ahh can"t we go back to being angry at PvE mode over druids? cmon 😄

[astral remnant]

who let him out his cage bruh

[cedar spire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/s/05oN37Qp1q

made this today, Reddit isn’t always a reliable mouthpiece but it’s interesting to see the sentiment of your community in nice short messages.

[solid coyote]

when does arena come back

[narrow glacier]

🙏

[elder heart]

Tomorrow if I remember correctly

[stable sparrow]

I can’t stop laughing at how shit iron mace has been after getting sued by nexon 😂😂😂 these iron mace devs should learn from US educated developers

[stable meteor]

I CANT STOP LAUGHING AT A BOT'S WHO'S JOB IS TO SH*T POST

[safe birch]

Why do druids have cutthroat, double jump, crush, rat form, high HP, high mobility, high healing (better heals than cleric), no requirement for memory capacity for any shapeshifting forms, and SDF sucking panther dong????????? explain why a reject 5.3M lawsuit is actively killing their game?

[safe birch]

5.3 MILLION DOLLARS BEHIND. SDF IS LIKE LET DRUID BE 🤪

[stable meteor]

Step outside dawg

[stable meteor]

hey, your miserable life doesnt depend on this videogame

cmon human u better then this wtf seriously

[gusty granite]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/s/fQzuOEKQ1c

[safe birch]

I literally finished an 8 hour shift. The first 224+ lobbies are druids. and your response is suck on some panther toes. Is SDF paying you? lmao bro you go outside

[stable meteor]

"lmao bro you go outside"

for real what the fuck

[limpid topaz]

what was the recipe for spectral coinbag?

[stable meteor]

1 spectral fabric, 1 troll pelt, 3 wolf pelt, 3 silk and 3 giant hide

[limpid topaz]

ty

[native yew]

👋

[autumn flame]

anyone know when arena is coming back

[surreal arch]

No, but I can say with quite confidence that it wont be today ^.^

[stable meteor]

24h

[lofty valve]

What’s going on with market rn

[vestal ridge]

what does a mystical gem do?

[fervent anvil]

something very cool

[vestal ridge]

bro gatekeeping

[fervent anvil]

go use one and find out what it does then

[vestal ridge]

well how do u use it

[fervent anvil]

you take it into the dungeons. and click use in the right place

[idle crypt]

Question. How much blue treasure should you hold onto for quests?

My blues are stacking up like crazy

[gusty granite]

All of them, because the moment you get rid of them they will release a quest that needs those exact items

[surreal arch]

https://darkanddarkertracker.com/questitems

Just click them off the tracker as you get them.. Store the Q items on separated char you do not play.
I do that all the time.

[idle crypt]

Thanks

[wispy garden]

game lagging for any other players?

[austere geyser]

yes

game is laggin badly crashed multiple times now

[mild shell]

anyone want to by my barb kit it has 185 hp 45 strength and 308 move speed

[hollow yarrow]

2 giant toes and 3 eyes best offer

[upper mist]

Unlocks a locked room on goblins, it has a marvelous chest and a gold horde behind it i believe

[mild shell]

how do i get a mystical gem

[upper mist]

Troll drop i believe

[mild shell]

why is no one selling mystical gem