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next update: druid gets a glock
Wait what but why can I Stack magic res for banshee?
next update: we nerfed druid by giving rat the same properties and hp as bear
Is the lich circle damage considered magic damage?
Guess
this game REALLY needs a sort feature, holy
If you can't build resist for lich because his circle is true dmg, why do you think you can build res for banshee?
U can for ghost king
man like two wipes ago they said they wanted to make the bosses like lich and gk better too, so they weren't just a check for how many meds you brought in. guess they forgot
coming back to this game after a year or so. are the lobbies still separated between gear scores?
Ty
You haven't seen everyone crying about gk change?
What are the current boss tables? Wiki is outdated
its a bad change to a boss that was badly designed from the start. troll change is also bad
anyone know if arena will be account wide minted or character minted this season?
Does anybody know if the healing granted by Shadow Touch and Torture Mastery work with Vampirism and other Magical Healing boosts?
What’s the best cleric weapon loadout?
all are effected by vamprism, shadow touch scales with nothing else in the entire game, tm does scale with mag heal
How about natural healing?
like the druid perk?
Yes, is it affected by magical healing?
When you say "shadow touch scales with nothing else in the entire game", do you mean anything other than Vampirism? Or that it just isn't effected by anything whatsoever?
yes but i think badly
quest drop rates are so stupid spiders should drop the silk ffs
Ty
vamprism works on everything, shadow touch, tm, even life drain. shadow touch doesn't scale with anything else, life drain scales with damage and does not scale off magical healing. its weird
Oh that is weird.
check the warlock chat pins, this kinda stuff gets asked in that chat all the time
If ir scales with shadow touch for how much is it healing more?
Oh there's a warlock chat? I missed that.
20%, 0.4 per swing
So 2,5 almost in total, not bad
My Dark and Darker experience tonight. Load in. Goblin. Stab stab. BWUARWARARAWRARAWRRR. Barb warmaul dead. 15 seconds grand total. Great game!
channels and rolls at the very top, you have to assign yourself the roll
you can assign them all, different people frequent different chats. kinda neat
Fair
there used to be a guy that named himself doesvamprism that they would ping anytime questions about it were asked lol
🤣
Only players that are playing are not noobs lol
What’s the best cleric weapon loadout? Bueller? What stats do I want on my weapons? Bueller?
@placid cipher most of us in PVE Mode too I assume 😦
morning star, strength and dex
Thank you. Does spell weapon matter or just any?
if you're casting spells book is always preferred for the low move speed penalty
sht game
Ooo that makes sense. What kind of armor buffs do I want? @sterile anvil
depends on what you're doing. if you want to be tanky, champion armor, crusader helmet. support clerics usually wear cloth
in solos or if you're the tank in the group you want stregth, vigor, and dex
I want to be tanky but also heal/buff my team when needed. @sterile anvil focus on tanky right?
hybrid doesn't usually work all that well to be honest. id start out with smite and divine protection for actives, run faithfulness as a perk because it works with smite, then blunt weapon, perseverance and probably protection from evil
cleric is very slow when tanky, but is also extremely powerful right now in melee. people will try to run from you when you pop smite
Definitely, although I'm in normals/hr for a little bit for some hunting loot.
Sounds good I’ll try that next time I go PvP thanks!!
no problem, gl
Also wanted to experiment with bard if you have any recommendations for a build. Cleric is my current favorite though
bard is the greatest class ever created
bard is a whole thing lol id say its the hardest class to learn. watch Y4mi on youtube, he has some tutorials for it
ADD ARTIFACTS BACK TO WYVERN
MAKE WYVERN GREAT AGAIN
ok so fighter has sprint and second wind right, when activated are they considered buffs? and would they be "magical"
question related to purge shot on ranger
i know it works on potions
Okay lol noted. Just seems fun to be boppin buffs and debuffs like that.
Tell me beginner tips then lol
very fun class but unforgiving. small missteps can get you killed
Small missteps get me killed rn anyways (in PvP I’m hopeless atm)
im not sure what beginner tips means
are you playing primarily solos?
bard in solos i would run rapier + survival bow with lots of true phys and play very annoying, if you can land enough bow shots to guarantee the melee win it can work
theres a lot of cheap easy W key classes dominating solos rn, fighter, barb, cleric so you need to be able to run faster than them
i think 3v3 bard is my favorite though, tons of micro managing but so rewarding being able to control the pace of the fight
depends on comps ofc
does spectral count as an undead?
I like trios for PVE right now but PvP I want solo at the moment cause I’m scared of hitting my teammates on accident and making everyone mad lol 😆
Do you guys think they will buff magic power back? Atm will and magic power is extremely bad and never worth getting intentionally. They basically removed healing judgement cleric from the meta.
with the state gear is in i dont think it can be buffed without changing both
Before the change, most magic classes ran true magic damage and knowledge and then other stats, not even worrying about magic power. I hardly think its going to make a big difference to peak gearsets to atleast buff it slightly.
i think roughly 6 months ago we had a lot less true damage in the game
like my arena kit had 77%mpb
I mean weve had 5 on enchants for a long time
only difference now is the uniques which are extremely rare for true magic
+alls and +3 primary stat wasnt im p sure
but with the math the damage doesnt even seem that insane
and id rather have clerics healing than running around with 320 ms smite
what is dark matter used for
does luck even work?
some tailor chest dark matter tunic and voidblade long sword
maybe theres more but thats all i can think of
Rapier is so bad tho
why are skull keys 37k?
i disagree, rapier mastery exists and when you are true stacking its probably the fastest hitting weapon on bard is it not?
Yo, anyone knows what's the green shield buff/status above the healthbar?
and the range is nice so you can play spacing well without having to wait for that stupid first swing on arming
rondel is definitely faster, but im mainly saying it because they nerfed rapier so hard
it literally does less than a stilleto
in my opinion the daggers require you to commit a lot more than a rapier would, just a playstyle difference ig
whats ur poinnt lol
why did they nerf base rapier so hard? wasnt the issue in arena weapon mastery demon's glee specifically?
i dont know tbh
have you ever gotten into a sword fight? weapons have different ranges, not everything is a stat check
why are we talking about this lol all i said was they nerfed rapier hard
that they did
??
Hey, I convinced some friends to download Dark and Darker thru Steam and one of them asked what Tavern.exe is. I can't find a clear answer online, can someone tell me what it is?
anticheat but its just spyware
I mean its also divine protection doing a lot of the heavy lifting. 5 spell cleric isnt even worth since they nerfed magic power and then nerfed the cleric buffs when people were already giving up on support cleric.
its so sad too, i love playing support cleric
But also movespeed cap is ironically really hurting the kiting classes atm since its decently easy to hit movecap so at high gear everyone can achieve it.
Capping stats is a lame solution anyway, you should just add a soft scaling curve to things
when you do goldsmith quests does it change his service stuff at all??
i think it lets you gem higher rarity things but im not 100% sure
anyone else getting crazy lag
who bought all gold waterpots(ultimate) someone invested big because only 3 aviable
im 1 str short to 50 in my new gauntlets but im going to be doing more damage
is cleric op right now
Still no quiver for ranger what the helly ???
Constantly the past few nights....Unplayable actually.
game is cheeks rip wish nexon won the lawsuit @glad thunder game has gone nowhere for 3 wipes
Sure this argument works when everyone wasn’t 330 Ms, try out ranging a cleric moving at 330 Ms at you weapons out with a rapier you maybe get a hit or two off before he bends you over a wooden table and two shots you
the chances you fight full unique clerics are not high boss
Finding barbs and fighters and clerics moving fast af isn’t very hard if you play max bracket HR
are the servers down ?
you're missing the context clearly, high ms with true stacked survival bow is objectively very good
i was explaining why i prefer rapier for poke fights
Feels good when you que into a solo lobby, and 4 people literally are teaming against you. But you kill all of them 🙂
Hey fellers, I hopped on, and dove deep for the first time in awhile... Can not find a portal or anything... i assume something has changed..
is this game any good anymore?
support cleric is the best
Hey, having a great time, hopping on after going afk for awhile. I like the spawn changes.. makes it a lot less PVP rushing spawns etc.
YO WHERE THE F IS MY EXPRESSMEN HOLY SHIT THIS GAME SUCKS
Do you still keep minted stuff in arenas?
thanks
you have to wait for him to get back.. takes a few min. if u put it in his inventory
nah hes only giving me like 2 items of the entire space
could be from previous run, also goblin brings baack stuff after level is done
nah idc ab goblin expressmen is hoeing all quest items all of other peoples gear and its so infuriating
Pretty sure theres a time limit on it, i've never experienced items not coming back
Yes, along with all the other forgotten castle bosses
j
where do you get grave essence again??
killing zombies
Mummies too, and maybe skeletons
any undead i think
im actually maulding doing these alchemist quests
#needmygrimmies
Zombies and mommies.
Just play ruins you'll get tons of em
Why are people still rejoining the same lobbies? Ironmace ? Do better im out
how is that a bad thing, I think it's funny
Because they know exactly what gear i have and where I'm at ? Is that not obvious?
you can 3rd party at any point, whats the difference?
best duo clases right now?
What's the difference ? Stumbling on a 3rd party vs beelining straight where I'm at ontop of another 3rd party
You Ironmace defenders are empty headed space cadets
I think its only bad if you rejoin highroller matches which I don't think you can
I wouldn't go around giving your opinion if you think something to be true
you think 0-124 matches matter that much?
most of the player base plays there so yeah I would say so
Let's cater to the 26 people playing Highroller?
Ruins til timer ends, crypts til timer ends and then inferno til timer ends, and not a single gosh darn dilly dally portal.
Fuck this stupid circle
my point is your stressing over a casual gamemode
Its the fact that it was supposedly fixed multiple patches ago but here it still is
seems intentional to me
PvE is a casual game mode, anything PvP full loot is never going to be casual. except 0-24s since you have nothing to lose
i've killed people in 124's and sold their kit for thousands of gold. last wipe one guys kit was worth 10k. even trash gear is still gonna make a game like this competitive, its the nature of full loot extraction games
I have lost tavern from my channels list and how do I get it back?
is it tavern channel for this game's chat or in this channel game-discussion?
Both but tavern chat is more just general chat and people talking about whatever
ok, thanks
So, new ranger here. What bow should I be using for some pvp? Longbow? Survival bow?
What do you get for getting treasurer reputation up? Is it even worth the gems?
druid warlock feels nasty
I am also getting this would love an answer
do you lose any gear when dieing in adventure mode?
225+ spectral knight dropped 5 gold coin and a couple purples 😄
the 5 gold coin is offensive
new player - wtf do I do against bear?
u don't
new players here whats a good class to start off with
all of them
Guys I need some help. I’ve been playing DnD since day 1 and I just logged on yesterday and saw that I was perma banned for CHEATING. I have never even teamed in solos and I’m too stupid to use actual cheats so I’m seriously confused as to why I am banned. I tried to go through the ticket system and was instantly rejected. I have no idea what to do
How do the leaderboards work? What impacts score
yes
quit allowing double classing in norms. double ranger double barbs. its not fun. whats the point of risk reward when you run into double bis barbs/rangers/rogues
Don’t cheat bro
I have never cheated. It’s genuinely a mistake on Iron Mace
Does anyone know for arena if gear you are bringing in needs to say looted or can it say handled as long as it is minted by you? (I understand minted to mean it says Found by (Name)
does the cyclops still drop troll pelt?
No sir
does goblin merchant give ur stuff back if u die in pve?
anyone getting error 42
why do people spam trade me when i enter trade? im assuming it's some kind of scam, what are they expecting though?
stop kiting and fight me rah
no >:)
Bro everything you say is opinion based get outta here dude
Does Magic damage bonus affect Rogue poison?
Add artifacts to wyvern please
Bots hoping for free stuff. Absolute brokie behaviour
Can I kill troll with felling axe?
if your good enough then yeah
whats the best weapon for barb with it
whatever weapon you like the most
zwei
is there like a training dummy anywhere to test stuff?
ts game so bad bruh, every game is teamers like wtf they be sharing my loot after killing me in hr
why everytime i switch classes it pairs me with a person playing the same damn class
Yes, adventure mode, go to one of the edge tiles called Armory IIRC - unlike the one at Barbican, Armory will show you the full values as opposed to your damage doing like 25ish.
also one module in gobby caves
oooh ty guys!
do you mean on the screen where you choose your map? i only see arena and the 3 normal maps
Err - mb, its on Crypts, but the tile is called Armory IIRC, but like MZX said, also in GC of you can find it
ahhh i see
i can get the name of it real quick
ill find it, ty ty!
is anyone else stuttering or is it a me problem
Can you get the spectral fabric from pve bossing?
Yes. Low chance but yea
when are barb buff coming holy shit sdf get a grip
@glad thunder
i know u are eating in front of ur pc, answear me i want my barb buffs
can you get artifacts off troll rn
never
play a other class stop yapping
💀 WTF SDF???
BARB 🔨 GOT NERFED AGAIN???
was once a CHAD... now a 👖-wearing piñata for rogues 😭
get 1-shot by invisible twinks
rangers = snipers with aimhack
WIZARDS LITERALLY NUKE ME FROM NARNIA
but BARB? = slow, sad, and bald
SDF out here like:
“small adjustments” = DELETE BARB META
BUFF 🔨 BARB
BRING BACK 💪 DADDY
or at least let me HIT SOMETHING before I DIE 😡
#SaveBarb #SDFStopTheWarCrime #LetChadsLive 🪦
@glad thunder
teaming is killing this game im on solos and killed someone why are 3 people coming side by side to loot there buddy like the devs of this game dont know how to inforce any of these rules oe anything honestly fuck this game worse 1800 hours ive ever spent of a fucking stupid ass teaming game
pizza guy you should stop playing
whats the highest dmg yall seen someone get longsword riposte dmg too?
DO THE HARLEM SHAKE
WTF SDF???
BARB 🔨 GOT NERFED AGAIN???
💪 was once a CHAD... now a 👖-wearing piñata for rogues 😭
get 1-shot by invisible twinks
🏹 rangers = snipers with aimhack
WIZARDS LITERALLY NUKE ME FROM NARNIA
but BARB? = slow, sad, and bald
SDF out here like:
“small adjustments” = DELETE BARB META ✅
BUFF 🔨 BARB
BRING BACK 💪 DADDY
or at least let me HIT SOMETHING before I DIE 😡
#SaveBarb #SDFStopTheWarCrime #LetChadsLive
are you on the spectrum?
cockatrice requirements are insane and the rewards are trash.
PIZZA GUY IS PROTESTING
@glad thunder REPLY TO ME
WTF SDF???
BARB 🔨 GOT NERFED AGAIN???
💪 was once a CHAD... now a 👖-wearing piñata for rogues 😭
get 1-shot by invisible twinks
🏹 rangers = snipers with aimhack
WIZARDS LITERALLY NUKE ME FROM NARNIA
but BARB? = slow, sad, and bald
SDF out here like:
“small adjustments” = DELETE BARB META ✅
BUFF 🔨 BARB
BRING BACK 💪 DADDY
or at least let me HIT SOMETHING before I DIE 😡
#SaveBarb #SDFStopTheWarCrime #LetChadsLive
WTF SDF???
BARB 🔨 GOT NERFED AGAIN???
💪 was once a CHAD... now a 👖-wearing piñata for rogues 😭
get 1-shot by invisible twinks
🏹 rangers = snipers with aimhack
WIZARDS LITERALLY NUKE ME FROM NARNIA
but BARB? = slow, sad, and bald
SDF out here like:
“small adjustments” = DELETE BARB META ✅
BUFF 🔨 BARB
BRING BACK 💪 DADDY
or at least let me HIT SOMETHING before I DIE 😡
#SaveBarb #SDFStopTheWarCrime #LetChadsLive
I play fighter all the time BUT I am looking for something new, what class should I try out this season?
CAPTAIN PAUL
?
DONT PLAY BARB BECAUSE WTF SDF???
BARB 🔨 GOT NERFED AGAIN???
💪 was once a CHAD... now a 👖-wearing piñata for rogues 😭
get 1-shot by invisible twinks
🏹 rangers = snipers with aimhack
WIZARDS LITERALLY NUKE ME FROM NARNIA
but BARB? = slow, sad, and bald
SDF out here like:
“small adjustments” = DELETE BARB META ✅
BUFF 🔨 BARB
BRING BACK 💪 DADDY
or at least let me HIT SOMETHING before I DIE 😡
#SaveBarb #SDFStopTheWarCrime #LetChadsLive
rogue
@glad thunder TAKE MY OPINION INTO CONSIDERATION JUSTICE TO BARB 2025
AND 2026 ALSO
may I know why you chose that one?
someone iron hammer plz buff barb
Brother there are barbs running around at 330ms with max pdr and 250 hp atm, what more do you need
for solos its the best rn, just run cutthroat and silence all the clerics/magic casters. the dmg when stacking all the dagger perks plus ambush is ez kits. unles you fight pdr fighter
idk man barb kinda seems fine
chefEU ッbro ur cappin and if this kit exist its probably 700k gold
I wish I was capping
barbs are so bad atm
i want a balance change for 224+ not for below
they dont scale as much as other class
YO IM you dummies forgot to ensure that there aren't too many people in ice abyss pve
All blues gone rip
yea i asked that awhile back if ice levels can spawn more players than exits esp the lower level since its so small
never got an answer so i never went back already lost one kit learning you can fallinto the void from ice cracking at a chest lol
is arena going to be found in only again when it drops?
They loaded in way to many people still. Insane that they do not actually check the population loading into the server
can you team in normals? We just got trolled by 3 rogues and another 3 man team. Very blatant all running at us not fighting each other even after we die.
I knew abyss ate items. So dumb I just lost very good arena items bc they can't code well
I believe you can. but in HR it is bannable
i wish id go back to the waiting for a lobby always in a fresh map and palyers cant get in like 5 min later
They just have to do what any remotely sane/good coder would do and actually correctly limit the pop in a server
HOnestly so stupid you can team in normal.
@stable raft I love you
ture
What does party maker on bard do?
nothing
yo when can we get blocking fixed, I died in two seperate games of shit hitting through my shield
why is the coif some leather hat that doesnt even cover the ears 😭😭😭
how to play warlock and ranger. Shoot-Put Weapon Away-Run-Shoot-Put Weapon Away-Run-Shoot-Put Weapon Away-Run-Shoot-Put Weapon Away-Run-Shoot-Put Weapon Away-Run-Shoot-Put Weapon Away-Run-Shoot-Put Weapon Away-Run-Shoot-Put Weapon Away-Run
Rogues ruin solo play, Druids are overtuned — fix the balance or the game's decline will continue. Player count is at its lowest since PT2.
where/how do you find gold/skull keys?
nowhere... but it should be in bosses
and another thing... can we make it so you can only enter the double boss loot room if you or your party has killed one or both of the bosses>>???? every time i show up to loot the gold room in GC someone has come through and looted the 2 items already....
how much would a unique crusader helm with mem cap go for?
only thing keeping this game alive is its the only fantasy styled extract
crypts and inferno bosses (not ruins) ,gk from champion and sk can also spawn on demon throne on the pedestal in hell.
why did i go down red and got sent back to lobby? lost my kit and everything in my inventory?
is this game good yet?
nope (come back in 4 years)
I play fighter all the time BUT I am looking for something new, what class should I try out this season?
-Fixed an issue where zombies weren't moaning loud enough
-Fixed an issue where the game was good
-Fixed an issue where streamers weren't catered to completely at the expense of the entire playerbase
solos?
solo in pve but duo or trio in pvp
how do you craft the boss summons i assume its a merchant but which one
I mainly play pvp dungeons though
alchemist
thx
u can try melee cleric or bard
ok
which invis nerf?
@nova bronze he does play the game for a living
When they made it possible to see a shimmer/outline of rogues that were invis if you were standing within ~3 meters of them
This game literally has built in map hack. Literally just create a second team in a trios match while your friends enter on a separate team. Die immediately, they you can provide intel to your team. SUPER smart devs.
well in this case ur statement is just a lie, he was happy about that change😂
I agree, its fookin dumb. I haven't played this game in months
but it wasn't because of the invis nerf, he did that when throwing knives got nerfed + something else can't remember , but it wasn't invis he doesn't even like invis
is it possible to get 500 luck without a unique item?
FIX THE DAMN WYVERN. WE WANT ARTIFACTS.
the feedback on the invis nerf was pretty possitive from most streamers, they didnt revert it cuz streamers tho
-Fixed an issue where built-in maphack wasn't working.
Yes, easier to do on bard with the luck perk though.
If you get lucky on every piece
i know you need the pot for the last like 150 but im still gonna be missing like 25 luck
druid if youre skilled and going solo
Cleric or bard if youre going team
(spreading cleric propaganda)
bring back goblin merchant for HR
can u not get uniques out of chests anymore in high roller is it only from bosses and boss chests ?
the amount of rat rogues in HR is mind blowing.
Daily reminder that we need 0-24s and to remove Marketplace. Hard bad choices by game devs.
Why would u want 0-24 again
0-24 was fun.
It's useless
when will my cockatrice give me gems?
because its literally the best game mode 😉
if cleric / druid needs a nerf how would you do it.
So they release adventurer mode, I kill bosses in crypts/inferno while looting pile a team of 3 warlocks come, 2 of them just spam hydra bump you while his friend is taking all the loot? how is this not bannable? Im only playing it to learn bosses and when i kill it i just get griefed by hydra warlocks on repeat
how r u supposed to do hr ghost king solo? in the eat phase he has 340 ms which you cannot outrun
im sorry but that is so funny bruh wtf
he doesn't have 340 lmao, u can outrun it easily
tilted asfuck met same team 3 times in a row
Eating = Increases move speed from 200 to 340 and chases a player.
straight from the wiki
Maybe you can still stuck it on that one candle thingy spot
oh yeah i forgot about that
Hitting it slows him down a ton
are the servers down? It booted me off the game and now I can't connect.
im ingame rn
The removed the recessed spots in the room. He can no longer get stuck there
F
You can still block the suck with hydra though lmao
Yea I flat out can't connect to the game servers
Time to do a quick reset I guess
i wonder if we are getting any patch this week
Its the same for me
i just tried a 225+ hr and didnt even get a single legendary 😔
can u not get uniques out of chests anymore in high roller is it only from bosses and boss chests ?
Yeah it just failed to connect 8 times. SDF special
Guys just wanna ask
Does Windigo not drop heart in adcenture?
can u not get uniques out of chests anymore in high roller is it only from bosses and boss chests ?
anyone know why my friend cant queue high roller when she is lvl 30 and has the gold req?
For 225+ you need to have that score for gear minimum. 224 high roller may also have a gear score minimum of 125. @lime pewter Have them check that
Same class
druid lock barb
did she buy the game? you need the legendary status i belive
does anyone know if kumas procs zirkzi if you dual wield on fighter?
legendary status for high roller ??? thats crazy
just cross checked this is the issue ty
why add a quest to use a sacrifice alter when some people only play solo and the revive spell exists
just let it be interactable so i can just do it anyway since it is circus tent tier
does the slow from water bolt make all of ghost kings attacks slower?
smite needs to be nerf.
can u not get uniques out of chests anymore in high roller is it only from bosses and boss chests ?
as late as 2 days ago i got 2 out of chests in the 0-224 high roller bracket on top floor of ruins w/ like 200 luck
or mobs? can't really remember even sorry but they were there
Hello guys i have a question.
Why are all ppl looking for gold coin chest ?
And why is it so important is it worth it ? And why are people using it in trade?
pulled a unique peck of peace from a royal coffin .
okay lit they must be hella rare now last season i got a unique in high roller hell every other game
?
Anyone gonna help boies ?

it holds a lot of gold
people who play this game a lot need them to store the huge amounts of gold they get
How much does the chest take ?
10k
I can't connect to the servers and it's pissing me off 😠
Is the shit down and they aren't saying anything or is it just some people and not others
Lol only 10k and those ppl going like crazy why then they dont freeze and store their gold in keys like golden and skull 🤣
because storing ur money in keys is like storing ur money in crypto, it can crash at anytime or go up further.
So basically it's like trading with 60k gold ? (Chest price & the gold stored into )
ArE tHe SeRvErS DOWN?
in some cases yes, like buying artefacts for example
no
Then why can't I connect? x.x
who knows
u don't deserve
re-installing fug it
Idk why ppl are buying artifact it with a huge amount of gold rhen just go for hr then die for stupid reason like mob killing him while he is fighting then he just lose like 100k in a blink of an eye
If it's allowed to play artifacts in the arena it would be a strong idea but in hr nah very bad idea
that's basically the end game, most ppl don't die to mobs with arti's 😂
No i mean while they are fighting like they got in a bad position
this game is something else. Just played single goblins. 4 rogues camping both troll and cyclop just waiting in the darkness for half the game. 2 on each not knowing other rogue is camping too. Peak gameplay
Anyways thanks mate it was a nice chat 🔥@cloud musk
That's why u have to bring a torch mate also check corners
If you’re rich enough to run artifacts then you’re probably good at the game and wouldn’t put yourself in a bad position
Dude ya4m the streamer dies in a bad position
Hey team
Looking to put together a ~224 cleric build. What kind of stats should I be aiming for, and what kind of rolls on gear?
Everyone will make a mistake
just had a rouge almost 2 tap me as i was entering a red portal
rouge and rouger
Where can I put game update suggestions
where do i contact someone about not being able to transfer my game over from epic to blacksmith? my friend claimed the paid version of the game on epic and now it crashes when he opens it so hes unable to get the key to transfer to blacksmith
Just nerf cleric alr
does fighter just have a different height to other classes because cave troll kills me everytime i try to look down and crouch his side swipe
He took too long
Probs your skin
skeleton crossbowmna
Are you talking about his "drunked swing" ?
after he roars
...
When he swings high you can dodge under it
Get breakthrough so you counter his shout
ahhh
hey guys, what exactly does the broken war horn do?
X to doubt because i did it at the same time he did
if u dont actually know, id appreciate it if u didnt guess
How do you correctly increase HP and armor?
Is it better to go straight to vigor over % and for armor is it better to go with straight extra armor points or % reduction?
Is the loot in ice abyss the same as inferno? (Besides the boss dropping artifacts)
summons warlord in HR
soo when ganna fix game its really fun to fight 8 pepole for squire meds in the first 3 mins of the match
From what I've heard %hp is bad on every class that's not barb, you want to go for vigor and +HP. I don't know the scaling on vigor but I think at lower levels it's 2hp per
ty
flat armor and flat hp at the low end, pdr% and hp% at higher end
What's considered low end and higher end?
In terms of stats, I mean.
how do you fix the stuck at "checking network" problem
before hitting the soft cap would be low end, so something around 38-40 i think , around there, and armor would be around 50% from my experience, but u could check the scaling for better results
Alright, thank you!
hey can someone help me i tried to link my blacksmith account on steam i put the code in pressed link and nothing happened, what do i do?
FIX THE GAME RIGHT NOW OR IM UNINSTALLING
what’s wrong?
My cpu keeps crashing while playing it.
I need help man. Its the only game that does it 😦
CPU keeps crashing? In what way? What happens when you get on to play?
Waa waa waa, that's what you sound like
Game crashes and I get a crash dump.
Its sibce the last update
Weird. You sure it’s your CPU? Are you able to DM me a screenshot of the crash name and entire description?
I will next time
What do yall think the strongest class is to solo bosses?
Cleric, Bard, Druid for sure
Def need to learn bard. Cleric feels decent, but clunky af for spectral knight. Ive heard warlock is decent too
Warlock is good too. Fighter can be really good if you learn how to repose really good with a long sword, same goes for warlock too
REMOVE THE FKING CIRCLE NOBODY LIKES IT YOU ABSOLUTE MOR0N DEVS
like holy shit ive never actaully hated a dev team until now and i played blizzard games
like i have a hard time describing my frustation of this being my favorite game and every fucking wipe they set the bar higher for how much they can dissapoint
druid is probably the easiest for spectral, when he does his ultimate you can just pounce away 100% of the time. and morning star is perfect for 1 hit and dodge mechanics of spectral.
hahaha i love this energy
Hes right tho
i know
Nah if you learn how to repose well, any long sword wielded can kill spectral so fast.
people now a day only focus on the way the message is delivered.
instead of on the actual message. everyone over emotional.
Haha
i see people's anger as passion, like they really want it badly to be good cause they love the game. why else spend that energy in getting angry right.
its when people go silent, and dont care about your product anymore is when its bad.
True true
many of the great names in the past who made amazing products have written about this stuff. its very interesting.
Bring 24 gs back
i just wonder where these devs are getting their funding from.
they operate as if they are goverment, instead of a company who has to earn costs back
theres no way this is sustainable without backing.
Good question i dont think that there are many that buy redshards or some
feels like they see this as just a testing ground. for a later full product. but you can only do that with big funding.
dungeonborne was the real product 
is 1 will the same as 1 magic healing?
Their money comes from people buying the game, redstones and tbis P2W storage feature.
But their influx of money is going downwards because they just released this stash garbage, it shows.
yeah but running the servers and paying the devs and all other costs involved are extremely high.
Their servers are cheap, the instability is crazy in this game now.
i can assure you its not cheap 😄
Dont forget its China
ofc not, not even close
and i dont see many new players with legendery status. its mostly people who have high fame already from previous seasons, and the rest is probably doing free2play
and theres loads of bots and farmers.
i just dont see how its sustainable.
Does anyone have an up-to-date beginners guide for caster classes?
only been playing physical classes so far and i wanna try to branch out a little 😛
check out cngblade
on youtube?
yes
cheers
dont start with sorcerer
start with a wizard with 1 set of spells, not dual spell
easiest entry way if you are the type that wants to learn step by step
i don't play pvp anyway 😛 i like to take it slow
warlock best PVE class
flamewalk and phantomize is insanely good. and can save you if about to get stuck.
if u get stuck its just a skill issue lol
shitgame, shitdevs i cant link my account from egs to blacksmith and this launcher sucks aass buggy pieceofshit
i'll check it out 🙂
wizard you for sure want magic missles for clearing mobs.
why its so hard to link to fucking steam why do u need so many fucking launchers holy shit
i mean some of the top players can still get stuck sometimes lol
facts game dose suckk and allways will yet there its no better games to play like this
fact stack
they definitely have cheap servers i promise you
classic
W DEVS
how you not gonna mention hellfire
i mean not for getting stuck, for being best pve class
dont play wizard or sorc, play cleric or torture mastery warlock
yeah i am looking at the warlock now
do you maybe know how i can get back to the class specific channel selection? only selected the classes i actively play but i wanna look at the warlock one too for example 😛
why would i have to mention hellfire, he wants to start step by step
fame 700 lock here, use book, and run tort mastery, vampirism, soul collector, and the 25% magic damage reduc OR for bossing the 30% curse duration or 25% less damage from undead
right now i am just looking for an idea on what stats to prioritize so i can figure this squire thing out 😛
hes probably overwhelmed by info by now
how do i unban myself?
haha i have no idea what half of this means 😄
oh my lord this guy 😄 why is there always people that cant feel the room, like now its turning into a battle of whos giving best advice
hes just trying to start somewhere bro
for spells take curse of pain (main bread and butter) power of sacrifice ( use this when you REALLY need to heal but dont miss with it) hellfire, flamewalk, and curse of weakness.
its ok yolo i appreciate the intent 😛
im not out advicing anyone?>
😄
just giving him a rundown of how i play.
guys please help. I cant play. I got banned. What do i do now?
be suere if you take soul collector you dont run any dark magic like dark boolt so you keep the +3 all
why this dumb game stopped golbin from giving stuff from hr ?
go the their website and make a ticket
but it was a ban only to my warrior?
anyone else having the constant "checking network" instead of play button?
Is anyone else getting short stuttering every 20 seconds or so? OCE server, hasn't happened until last patch
last patch has been very unstable for many people i think, if before you had no issues then likely that.
or maybe they downgraded servers, i dont know. but many people complaining.
hopefully they actually hear it. or some big streamer mentions it etc. the devs seem very deaf to things like this.
took them over a year to solve an unreal engine physics problem that causes micro stutters that i spammed for months in chat 1.5 years back
on alt account (this not my main)
is phantomize any good in pve?
and it was a very known bug inside the unreal engine dev community, was surprised they seemed to be unaware of it.
yes works great with flamewalk, and you can escape from sticky situations if you get in them often.
yea you 100% want phantomize, its your get out of jail free card in pve and pvp
ah so flame walk works with phantomize?
yes
nice
and you can make mobs attack each other by centering yourself between them for few seconds.
just gotta make sure to use it first
9000 fame warlock here with 5000 hours
😂
😄
f
im at 3k hours in game so im no meme almost to 5k lol.
but, at least half is me afk asleep
i see some guide mention intellect. has this been turned into will in the game or what am i missing?
lol thats world of warcraft lock @tight acorn
LOL fucking ai xD
i swear googling things has gotten such a pain in the ass since all of the AI shit
Yuh
youtube.com / results?search_query=warlock+beginner+guide+dark+and+darker
will is a big stat, but more important is +1 true mag damage on your rings neck helmet and cloak, and you also want at least 5, preferably 10+ magic healing @tight acorn
just looking for a squire loadout to get started for now
gotta love the teamers in OCE servers also have the most desync because theyre from a different region. I guess we just give up on ping lock?? can we make it so you cannot enter or exit boss room until its done or players are dead? also you cannot loot double boss loot room unless you killed one oof the bosses or both other boss killers are dead or left? zone always near loot room? you cannot spawn where another team has already spawned? you cannot spawn into the same game you have already been in? just a bunch of very obvious game flaws that are ignored because youre not playing on the OCE servers... justice please all of my friends are leaving the game so the only players on the servers are the teamers from another region.............
the mag healing is what makes the gear expensive usually, and you wanna be fast, especially for pvp, your playstyle is curse of pain, maybe power of sacrifice, and then run/distance rinse repeat till you butter them up enough to all in @tight acorn
be sure to run mystic gloves and occult hood
i am just looking to survive pve 😛
how the fuck do i edven contnact that support to get me unbanned
ye without the mag healing tho its like almost impossible to net a a hp gain
torture mastery , you can do the mystic gloves occultist hood , but its not that much with squire gear, but its good for practive.
no its not.
you can easily get hp back with squire gear, just spam both curses on a mob.
go play tort mastery with 0 healing and tell me how that feels
i do all the time
then ur dog waters dude
guys take a deep breath 😄
oh here comes the real Cry for Content
i dont even have an account. im playing through steam
lol wdym?
i'm sure there are many different ways to play a warlock
where is login with steam. So poorly made
Go in the warlock channel on disc
no need to get worked up
you can easily heal back hp with squire kit
ask them if its smart to play tort mastery with 0 magic hgealing
i would but i don't know how to unlock it
i didn't say 0 magic healing you are already twisting my words , you angry kid
squire kit yea? with occ hood and with msytic glvoes
even 1-3 mag healing makes a world of difference, but you said NEITHER at first
Just leave the game dude, ain't no one taking this game seriously in OCE anymore
i can show you my fame too that you like to brag about lol
i'll send ya both friend invite
Of course it can be done and i can do it easily too but he is brand new to casters
not easy for him duh
oh so now you change your stance, now that i mention showing you
HOW HAVE I CHANGED MY STANCE YOU DIMWIT
what a POS 🤣
go back and reread because you are mistaken
jo @tight acorn ill send ya a friend invite so i can show you. its easier
please don't take this personal but my friendlist is only for close friends 😅
W
no problem 🙂 ignore this ^ guys advice though. its terrible
i get overwhelmed easily so i like to keep things clean
do what you want, but you want occ hood and msytic gloves, remember that
hes just spamming you with his own experiences and fame level instead of thinking about what you wanna learn or steps to take
i think you both need to calm down a little 😂
well take the whole conversation in context.
you are capping bec thats LITERALLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING HOLY FK
i'm giving you valid easy steps advice, this kid screeches over it with I AHVE 3000 FAME dont listen to him, then continues giving bad advice. just brags about his plays.
at some point i get tired of it.
oh ffs 🤦♂️ i'm not gonna fuel this anymore
lol these 2 guys
nobody cares. the guy just wants to ***** learn a caste rholy ffffffffffff
prooves my point, because you are wrong.
insane personality
You literally got offended i gave advice seperate ffrom yours and you made it into this personal thing like im one upping you when initially i didnt even acknowledge you in any way
i think its the other way around mate. but you cant see that.
then show me where, reply where i did that
oh wait yo ucant and wont because you are wrong.
grab the whole conversation. ok.... print it out.... and read it...
come back to me later..
right now this chat is not wanting us to debate this shit here.. the guy wanted to just learn a caster, easy simple start he said hes beginner
are you maga?
literally takes 10 seconds to scroll up and reply to the message i did any of what you said?
i already told you.
ur such a joke jfc
i told you i have trillion fame and 5 billion hours, it means im better. (sarcasm btw in case you dont understand it)
all of this happening in slow mode is kinda hilarious
^ 🤣
its funny how you just wanted help and now they are both arguing over who is the biggest loser. You can't write this sort of stuff lol
Is blatant teaming allowed in normals (pvp)?
yeah does seem that way huh
i was being sarcastic though. but he's actually serious.
For the sake of argument, Warlock squire gear can heal but the damage is shit and you dont even heal that much. You're better off playing melee lock at this point but that's not learning a caster.
its not. warlock squire gear is ultra easy to heal off.
infact i recently had a friend just doing it who's new. its derp easy.
You dont deal any damage you aren't killing anyone half decent
what are you even saying what... we are talking about healing back up.. warlock is a tick dmg dealer anyways.
does that also apply if i only play pve?
thats why i said get flamewalk phantom for fastest clearing
its insane how much of bad advice people give on this channel. 🤣
Yes you can heal but what's the point if you dont deal damage to kill anyone you need true mag in normal
hes trying to learn caster!!! aaaaaaa
Pve lock is good yes
read the whole conversation before jumping in man
this guys brain is gonna explode with 5 people telling different shit
i mean he does have a point no? gotta deal damage 😛
yes thats why you want flamewalk too
Learning a caster means dealing with pvp no? Like pve is easy
i don't play pvp
Ok warlock is easy af on pve just go for it
🤦♂️
thanks lol
Best pve class after cleric.
guys i need help
i get the banned from gamemode gold coin
is there a fix? a friend also had this problem until we changed classes
Please put a higher cap than 124 for people palying normals... sometimes you just wanna go pvp and have fun not having to deal with 80million tryhard mobs blocking every single doorway and griefing the fun
made a video for you luke.
please trash my mic quality chat -> streamable.com / 7kgn7q
this proves my point that squire gear is more than sufficient to heal you back to full from almost no hp on just 2 mobs.
i just got rushed by a warlock who can cancel his fantomize ???
yeh they can now.
yikes
one more brilliant idea from ironmace .
225+ is full of platelocks that do that to ya now 😄
@tight acorn did you check the vid mate.
my blood sweat and tears i put in that
😄
that might be also why you see BOC on my bar when i made that video for luke 🤣 lolol
not yet i'm just fucking around ingame atm
pls let me select my server again i dont want to play on 200+ ping asia servers
yo why tf i can't change servers?
🤬
we hate it
cause i just lost a 1v1 to a rogue as slayer fighter and idk how to feel about it
bro just traded idek mane
gear checked, expensive rogue + weak point can be nasty
yeah he had that ga3 ass perk
yeah you wanna block that, or crossbow him before he even gets close
if you dont succeed in that it might be GG 😄
or if you land first hit you can still out DPS it if you are in good gear
yolo, any tips for me a wralock vs landmine rogues
kind of fair for it to be that way though.
caster warlock
theres a few tips.
become one of them
xd
lol
hydra is great counter, but i get tired of it quickly. so i usually spame flamewalk when i suspect there could be landmine.
okok yeah i dont run hydra
always get max ms too, rogues that hold m1 are sometimes slower
m1?
ah okok
if you respond very quick to a landmine, and you 180 very fast, you can still survive it sometimes if you are max ms
so just flamewalk tf out where i suspect there could be one
but most of the time its GG against a good player.
thats what ive realized
yeah because flamewalk is more fun, less mind numbing, and you can just kind of turn it on after opening a door
rogue rather sit there and wait still instead of walking through your flamewalk.
but again an very experienced rogue might still tank that with silence.
yeah thats the thing
yeah so if you flamewalked, and its a rogue that isn't so agressive. you can just reposition yourself.
Add artifacts back to wyvern
they're usually very agressive in HR
to windows
you want to not create that window, so flamewalk , check for dead mobs, no dead mobs then if you go in make sure you are far away from the door you were in. but most invis rogues leave active or dead mobs behind em.
does anyone have the new map layout for ruins?
or get software that some headphones bring that enhance game audio
in this game you can hear shit 2 modules away with that software
they have done zero coding to prevent audio equalizing
i'd love to see some clips of you getting landmined though. easier to say what went wrong 😄
yeah i dont clip anything sadly
if you really hate rogues with a passion then use hydra 🤣
im thinking about it
maybe unpopular opinion, but i dont think any type of invis is healthy for this game.
i think rogues should be reworked to have more mechanical advantages
hello there! did someone reported before a bug that makes all your gold dissapear? yesterday the server disconnected me abruptly from the game and when I loged again, my gold was 0, nothing else changed in my inventory but al the coin bag were empty... lucky me I only had 1K in this character (and believe it or not, this only happened to THIS particular character)...
someone else had this problem?
things like dashes, leaps, blinding poisons, or something like that.
but hey, iron mace puts a backstep on a ranger 🤣
why tf am i constantly being put in the wrong region
anyone knows why game randomly shotdowns sometimes for no reason
sometimes twice a day
nah
they do
takes a while before it happens though, report them, write down the name and date on text doc on desktop and see what happens.
if there is blatant teaming it usually turns into a bann. for me atleast
i just wish they banned the blatant cheating. like ESP etc. they almost never get banned when i report
ESP is more work for devs to detect/look into
Only in this discord to see the final announcement “we will be shutting down our servers on X date thank you for donating”
well i say devs... there is probably one guy looking over reports thats not a dev
Does the spear have a parry bonus like the long sword?
is there any way to transfer my blacksmith acc to steam?
i share that fear. they did make a video where they showed them upgrading/reworking their studio to reassure us they are not dead. but yeah... ive seen talks like that from dying game companies before 😄
^.^ they are purposely winding it down. Population numbers dont lie
Killing the game with patches nobody asked for so they can file bankruptcy
It’s a common route
yeah thats also a theory. they are all theories though. they have been doing bad patches since day 1 😄
so that does not really prove anything.
coping cuz u died to a druid a couple times lmao
oh was he mad dying to druid?
just sdf W reminder
look at ms dif between fist and torch
https://outplayed.tv/dark-and-darker/Xa57mb
lol
is spirit bond still bugged
does it do the same dmg?
yes
always been known, remember pre nerf faithfullnes torch clerics
Remove stiletto dagger asap.
or if extremely lucky it kills them cause animal transform is bugged as fuck, the dmg always calculates a few frames later.
does completing goldsmith quests do anything other than the rewards? Does it make the socketing cheaper or wat
Remove stiletto dagger asap.
dont know, good tip though, complete the quests on characters that are not lvl 20 yet. so they get the EXP
saves you from having to lvl up any new characters
FAM.. is vault location the one in crypts with pile + wraith/skelly champ?
yes
yes
tyty
Add artifacts back to wyvern
Is arena open yet?
You want an amount of money that we both deem reasonable
Remove stiletto dagger asap.
why?
Most broken dagger on rogue
dagger is fine, rogue is broken not the dagger
nah not really bro
Love watching the doomers agreeing with each other, its like watching mad at the world toddlers holding hands lmfao
Stilleto assh0le
I actually think rondel dagger is the most broken dagger in the entire game
rondel has more dps than stiletto
Infinite combo true stacking with 185hp double jumping with a lantern to boot
Only getting headshots on you and taking leg shots like wake up
tank rogue is bis
Ive been playing duos mostly this wipe
I'm a fighter main but this wipe its just so bad so
Ive been playing tank rouge and bonk wizard
ya should prolly nerf barb more tho
taking 10 hits to kill rogues? no should be more like 15.
Barb is one of those characters where if your in low gear and strong
Ruins the meta, Barb and Barber is not cool
Remember 2 wipes ago smite dp cleric was the only thing you saw and Barb
Why block messages about sorc lightning being dumb
The other issue is they changed the items again and so all the previous balance they attempted is now gone
So if they make changes and next wipe gear is different its gonna happen again
anyone know a fixing for the losing connection and crash error? I keep crashing after every game
Its been happening to me aswell
I recommend resetting your pc it helped me yesterday
How do i show my stuff in chat?
shift+ left click
We wouldn't be able to see it anyway with out a microscope
tyty

Does bloodthirst even exist? I have never seen anyone post one in the trading post, but I've seen tons of catices and all the others
If they do exist, does anyone know a general price?
having actual melee combat isnt cool. having class that requires skill with weapons isnt cool.
don't, ladies don't really like it
last time i saw one it was listed at 10sk
Fuuuuuuck
There goes my plan of grinding for one for a doomslayer pve build lol
I was hoping to go full ultrakill
its really expensive
Bro I'm a fighter main i love melee combat
40% actionspeed, 315 ms warmaul, barb is just not cool I'm sorry
When is it better to take move speed bonus over agi?
315 move who is getting caught to this?
Would i be better off rolling 2 agi on off rolls vs. Move speed bonus?
in goblin caves shared loot room 225+ gs lobbies, can artifacts drop?
Remove market, ban all market abusers.
fighter mains complaining about barbs when they have ranged damage more ehp with second wind faster andlongsword lantern shield. All these answers to barbarian and they still mad.
adventure farm on rogue and use that gold for crazy ass bis
Lol... I actually dont like weapon mastrey and I'm dont play it.
When barb can counter you with 1 hit of a weapon with reckless it feels bad also all our native weapons are nerfed into oblivion it feels bad
when do they fix this MOVESPEED BS ? clericer weapons out is faster then my rangers with no weapons in hand ? wtf ?
every barb wep got nerfed as well. felling is like 15 or 17 percent weaker. Hit your ranged shots hold right click with longsword andyou win against barb easy bud.
Longsword sucks
D-sync to op
name a single barb attack that does more damage than a longsword riposte. go ahead. Ill wait.
"Skill issue." there a i fixed it for you.
Reckless attack warmaul or bardiche
nah budyou trolling
75 - 80% of someone's health same as a reposted
riposte literally 1 taps squishies in gray longsword
Bro I've one tapped on
Wizard
barb
literally have a felling on my cleric right now thats legendary that i stripped off of a barb while i beat him down with a green mstar
the class is cheeks and while you have every right to have an opinion it doesnt mean your opinion is just terrible
Cleric is just dummy atm
Again if you play barb buff ball and have good gear its strong
"If the circumstances are actually perfect the class kinda plays." wtf kind of balance take is this.
whens arena out
If i can get 190 hp on wizard alone no one Buffing me
I wonder what barb can get to
I love that a barb and fighter are arguing whos more OP
whens arena?
toddfather showed a bis barb build at 200. so ya barb being about as tanky as wiz should tell you something
65 65 resists vrs 30 30 resists
We can all come together and agree Druid is more OP than both.
Anyway, nerf rogue 
W take 
barb isnt op at all it literallyweakest class.

Idk man I think that's some marginal cope
you can emote all you want but i name off so many answers fighter has to barb and you got nothing
look inside yourself and see the skill issue
Boss lich now instantly enchant minion after summoned?
Bro war maul legit counters fighter and its not even close
Also let's keep it respectful dude I'm not dising you we are having a conversation like relax
ya it counters fighter so what? use a longsword or lantern and you beat it.
shoot him before he gets to you
kite him since swift just lets you walk away and you may even have to press sprint.
Lantern shield is to strong, weapon mastrey shouldn't be a thing, druid needs to have healing removed from transformations, sorc needs longer cooldowns on cc abilities, bard ballad of courage needs to be nerfed, cleric needs less scaling on smite.
Like the problem is other stuff its not barb being bad its other classes being to strong
if everyone else is stronger than barb that means barb is weak.
From my experience, barb either performs extremely well or very poorly from situation to situation.
If you can actually get into melee range, it tends to stomp whatever its facing. But if they can kite and whittle you down, youre cooked.
I generally dislike barb for this reason bc it feels OP at times but also completely useless other times. Needs some sort of change to make it more consistent. But maybe its a skill issue on my part.
Again the issue is the changes that they do every wipe to gear and the balance changes dont adjust with it this is a dev skill issue
If they actually drop a balance patch I'm sure barb will rise up
bro last buff barb got was blood exchange and that shit lasted like 5 days
sdf hates barb and thats why i stick to cleric now. pesky longsword fighters getting 2-3 tapped and think smites fair is the funniest thing ever.
SDF hates barb? Do I need to remind you the barb and barber????
yes he hates barb. franny sucks and no other ranged options. Best skills have terrible down sides. No get out of jail free cards.
Best skills have no downsides though? What rage losing pdr?
ya using rage reduces your ehp. dream walk backstep phant tho? shits just free to the vast majority of the game.
Bro the barb cope is insane. As sorc all you need is iron will to legit make me useless. Then, you get 330ms with rage, and slow with frannies as you chase me down
Eh. No ranged, sure. But melee damage is so high that the whole strat with barb is how to close the gap. And most classes dont have get out of jail free cards- just druid and warlock (and MAYBE rogue).
At this point this gotta be rage bait
The thing is if your not going against ranger/druid your absolutely busted
ifyou die to barb as a sorc you dont understand the class. hands out casted and ez max movespeed while having hard cc im not the one coping.
max ms in this meta you arent catching anyone with anything. all the weapons are to slow in pulling out and you lose to much health to get close to a competent player if you can catch them.
you know how much gold you have to spend to get "ez max movespeed" on a sorc. Let alone enough knowledge to cast somewhat fast. I can tell you've never played sorc

Nothing is worse than Gray zone warfare what a terrible game that was and still is I went to try 1 update they had and it was literally all the same
less than 1k. literally can get max ms in greens.
And all you gotta do is press a button
if both characters are moving at max and 1 only does it for 6 seconds then the one doing it for 6 seconds never catches
open the schools math aint this hard
I've been playing bonk wiz flat 300 ms using haste and I'm catching people
Why doesnt the barb in this hypothetical situation also get max movespeed in greens tho
u guys know they confirmed Monk as the new class?
because then that barb goes into any melee matchup and loses.
Cought cought throwing axes feet strike cought cought
He's cooked man. Its a lost cause talking to this fella
Can you get troll pelts from adventure mode
If your struggling with barb there's no hope for you 
check out skinny pete getting put own 7-0 while high move speed in decent to good gear to frog. maybe you will understand how the actual game works
Nah, complete disagree.
Gotta be mindful of shields and parries. But barb deals BIG dmg in melee and has high hp pool.
Bear, longsword, and lantern shield are your biggest threats in melee. If you consider this as you engage, you can beat them with footsies, baiting, etc.
cleric with pve perk/skill like undead slaying and holy puri just obliterating one of the best barbs in the game
Nothing like 132 fame rogue not knowing a single res on ruins
im fucking dead
how can i change the religen
he's too used to hiding in the dark corners of solos
Rage bait used to be believable...
yup all that barb damage unable to kill a 115 health cleric
barbs damage must be so good right?
If you land 2-3 melee hits with an axe, they will die. Hope this helps! 
nvm he doesnt even understand english ontop of not knowing a single res 😭 cant even tell him where to go
Barbs need a nerf tbh
Okey here's a funny thing this game has like 8 other classes :3 and barb losing to one kinda is normal? Try playing wizard and say barb is bad
the barb cant catch the wiz if he has half a brain. haste plus movespeedpieces like its not hard.
I farted and it was solid
Oh you gonna share it with the class?
didnt they said they wanted to be more transparent what they do? why are they radio silence
The wizard can't kill a barb if he has a brain too oh wait barb and brain sorry I see your point
bonk wiz is going hard af with mstaff. literally watching them 2-3 tap barbs.
They forgor
Honestly yeah barb could use a longbow
that would partially fix the problem. increasing the speed to pull out two handers and their attack speeds would be another. if barb is slow it needs to be able to actually perform in melee.
if not that then increase movespeed.
in goblin caves shared loot room 225+ gs lobbies, can artifacts drop?
Yeah also they should give barb 320 base move speed
If they want barb melee only make it fast im down for that
And barb could also get a Glock 19 since if you read history books barbs used to go on raids with Glocks
they used spears and bows so i mean idk about the gat my boy
Such terrible ragebait. I’m not even a Todd glazer but watch his latest vid. If you think barb is bad you prob need to put some more hours into this game
They are adding muskets to all classes (2027) just wait until then for barbs
WDUM? Barbs need a buff since their only the second best class in the game so maybe if they got a Glock and be able to shot people it might make them better
And the history shows that barbs got guns in their time it's just god nerfed them a patch later
That barb is is the top 1 percent with legendary/uniques on and still only 315 move. who war maul bardiche is 45 or 50 penalty and you aint catching with that
So what your saying barb should get 320 Ms what else?
if the class cant catch whats the point?
did they fix the forever "checking network" issue yet?
So what other buffs do you propose?
dodging questions. If the class cannot catch whats the point?
So barb should get quick step and have 320 move speed will that make him playable?
Actually they could just remove move speed penelty on all barb weapons ?
are we ever ganna get back our old servers they so much better waht ever abomination we have now
remove movespeed gear and the market 👌
Makes it more even. Ranged characters actually have to hit shots rahter than running and shooting for forever and hitting less than 5% of their shots.
Its not always about running someone down and catching them in a chase. There are ways to outsmart a faster player and catch them in a bad position. Also you have achilles to slow people down.
Thats kinda the game if youre playing barb against a kiting class. Gotta find a way to get them into melee range and then kill em in 2-3 hits.
he's rage baiting I am just bored and playing in to it
What game are you playing? Im hearing everyone scream rage achiles reckless and last time i checked i only got 2 skills
Nah, screw reckless. Achilles and rage if youre struggling with kiting classes. Barb can beat pdr in a fight without reckless.
Here we go you just lost the argument. That ranger hits 3 shots at range and i die. I ahve to go around his shotgun, backstep and somehow catch his high move speed in order to win. The skill difference in this should tell you something.
His argument is terrible at that. He's saying someone with max MS is unkillable, when barbs can easily gear up and get max MS without using rage too. The amount of arrogant barbs that chase down with achilles and hit you with a torch are countless. Stop entertaining this dweeb.
having to strip chest and hitwith a torch. weirdest fucking gameplay in order to win. While ranger can back step the achiles debuff duration or just shotgun 1 tap you.
How can i enjoy this game? As a warlock there are som classes i can fight and some that i cant even reach. No skill in the world can fix this and I just feel hopeless when I geared up just to fight my counter class in the second HR 225 module i enter. Wish there was som skill involved not just gambling.
ARE WE STILL DOING THIS RAGE BAIT 
Solos is just rock paper druid unfortunately
Im not, the more I see this kids profile pic, the more i viscerally hurt inside. Less input from him the better
the barb op crowd saying cleric smite dp ranger shotgun or wiz mstaff fireball fair like how do i even talk with you.
Aha... are there any roadmaps for balance or are they just removing/reintruducing content every patch to milk the most invester players to Buy cosmetics? Is there a vision?
i see asian farmers still run rampart here
Cleric destroys barb. Druid and cleric need nerfs badly
Um the vision might be crack and like a lot of it. Smoke some and you will gain the SDF vision
The vision is reducing blue shard rates and releasing ever more expensive skins (see golden skeleton skin price) and thus farming red shard buyers out of every cent they have
easy brother the mods will not like this statement.
If there is a content remove/put it back loop it means the game is 100% dead and they are just milking.
they got no competition there servers are dead
While we may disagree saying anything about drugs will draw the ire of badguydave.
SO SMITE IS STILL A THING
They promised like 7 things for this wipe and all we got was +all
OOO your right
Does arena open today?
Im just full int'ing with this sorc kit until i die, then going play Arc Raiders
Should it? Yes. Will it? depends on what sdf wants to do he doesnt say shit just tells his player base how its going to be when he wants to do whatever he wants to do.
Game is dead with all atts and ms rolls. Not to mention druid being the only class without counterplay💤💤💤

just randomly 2 weeks no arena or no fucking reason sdfs vision seems like extreme ocular damage.
I just need to practice pvp
go into norms bud
Arena would be nice today lol
squire kit calling your name as we speak
I still get stomped 90% of the time
i usually take in blue mstar and roll 124's
Really?
If I wanna get into norms pvp with squire kits, which class would be the best, overall (when considering fighting melees, rangers, casters, etc)? If you wanna get into specifics, what perks/skills/weapons would be best, too?
Ive had a surprising amount of luck with my squire kit longsword plate fighter, but I havent faced a caster yet.
I'm 50-50 with my loot goblin rogue, and I havent tried any other classes yet (in pvp modes, atleast)
yup
Okay i guess i need to practice hit and dodge
Cleric divine and smite is just free gear. And if you learn druid you can be almost unkillable with all the goofy movement techs
I hate druid with a passion lol
ya cleric is better barb right now. just use it until game dies or sdf allows someone who understands the game to balance
I enjoy the play style more plus ranger
224 or greater ranger is good
Ah no wonder Im getting screwed
Ranger is good regardless. Rogue needs true phys
when using keys as currency, how much is a skull key worth?
i mean if you never miss with ranger sure its good but you dont see that often
Anyone whos been good at an fps game will have an easy time on ranger
can you sometimes not get your gear back from goblin merchant? Is it a bug?
dungeon recovery doesnt work anymore? I couldnt retrieve anything whole wipe
idk it was working until yesterday morning
where to gamble
i just lost a full legendary set with uniques & max luck lol
lost in adventure mode. I submitted a ticket 😭
How do you lose in adventure with good gear much less 💀
