game-discussion

[empty garden]

because the goblin merchent doesnt have it

[grim vapor]

What happened to arena ?

[woeful bluff]

Does anyone know if vampirism affects shadow touch, and if dark enhancement affect boc? Is boc dark magic spell?

[mild dove]

Preach make the game more fluid and fun

[woeful bluff]

Thank you!

[fringe stratus]

could someone perchance gift me legendary status while its onsale🙏 🙌

[noble sentinel]

No I need my money to buy oblivion remaster 🙏🏻 🙌🏻

[jolly abyss]

bro dont yall have free double jump right now????

[dapper junco]

Druid channel detected, charity rejected

[dapper junco]

no official mod support, broken game incoming, 120gb install size bloated textures, already bought Oblivion years ago, will play this one for free 🥂

[jolly abyss]

i think youre bugging bro the remaster looks sick, to each their own, it def could have been cheaper though but we’re in the future ig

[exotic ocean]

how does an entrance to the troll cave look like on the map?

[slim tulip]

Can we please FIX the rubberbanding? P L E A S E

[molten ridge]

is there a way to avoid some damage from the ghost king ?

my health is getting half

[heady mural]

No it’s intended

[rancid umbra]

not the scream

[molten ridge]

stupid aah mechanic

[robust otter]

Yo cleric is absolutely busted. lollol

[fierce violet]

Haven't seen Pyramid in over a week
Killed 30 Cockatrice without Feather

[dapper junco]

Kanye sucking off his cousin for years and Oblivion remaster before Elder Scrolls 6

[robust otter]

WHY PLAY ANY MELEE CLASS OTHER THAN CLERIC. HIGHEST DAMAGE WEAPON AND CAN ALSO USE HEATER SHIELD?

[simple river]

Yo whoever gifts me legendary status gets one note on Roblox deepwoken

[fierce violet]

Guy doesn't know what Parry Reposte is

[split hare]

which is better max health or max health bonus?

[tidal plover]

Max

[simple river]

Why the hell is Bonnie Blue metamancing

[prisma lava]

So currently on 3rd set of quests for the cockatrice, and it is now a little baby cockatrice. Wtf does this merchant do? It wants legendary bagles now...

I know its supposed to bring you gems and stuff, but when ?! Thing is a money sink currently

[dapper junco]

Legendary bagels, oy vey

[ancient jungle]

lol

[wispy lichen]

i love women

[prisma lava]

riveting game discussion here folks

[split hare]

bro come on. MAX health? or MAX health bonus

[shell bronze]

when are we removing ranger from the game

[lapis mural]

Lich killing you far outside arena now - love how they fked the last patch up so bad nothing makes sense anymore

[left kiln]

does m2 longsword count as a defensive stance???

[slim tulip]

shug a magic protection pot when you think you are about to trigger the scream.

[left kiln]

love this im gonna remember it when i get better to fight it

[slim tulip]

don't sweat about it, if you check the quest the required gems don't have to be "looted" you can buy them when the market opens on thursday

pot's always have value so don't worry

[left kiln]

ong

its up to you to set the price

[glass silo]

Yes

[desert drum]

axes and jump swinging behind shield hitboxes is broken shit

[left kiln]

does that mean longswords get barricade?

[glass silo]

Yea ofc

[left kiln]

do longswords get slayer x2 ?

[glass silo]

No ofc

[slim tulip]

yeah man the rubberbanding is insane rn, i'm 100% sure is becasue of the twitch drops

[left kiln]

why youre holding a weapon in each hand

[desert drum]

not sure how they can make blocking feel less bad right now, but damn it sucks to be a shield fighter in pvp

[glass silo]

It counts as 1 big ass weapon only

Or is this a joke idk

[left kiln]

right but it specifies in each hand?

[glass silo]

Erm it only counts when u using 2 one handed weapons man

[left kiln]

while holding a weapon is the prerequisite whilst it being in each hand is the focus

[lime pine]

How is the game like after trade start, haven't booted up the game yet

[left kiln]

so if both hands are on it then it counts for the plus 5 weapon damage in each hand -ARENT HANDS WEAPONS??

[glass silo]

Brother it just doesnt work like that

[left kiln]

slayer bare fists should work

js saying

[glass silo]

Slayer ass anyway xd

[wispy lichen]

Is a purple lyre (5 resourcefullness) better to equip for looting, or a blue pickaxe? (10% interaction speed)

[left kiln]

im just having fun lol

[wispy lichen]

people just dont like us to have fun on this game D:

[glass silo]

Ok

[left kiln]

apparently so

can someone give me a build to work with

[glass silo]

Falchion crystal ball warlock, boc and spell

[left kiln]

level 1 warlock incoming

[glass silo]

Gud enough tbh, u just need soul collector

Literally the better bonk lock

[left kiln]

what spells and stats do i try and get?

[ocean imp]

anyone else able to kill all druids now? Finally an update to begin wiping out druid.

[left kiln]

graysun ik youre watching us gift me the battlepass

[fickle flame]

Never thought of that. I can use my legendary pickaxe for something. (20% interaction speed)

[wispy lichen]

i lost minee T_T

[onyx wharf]

i use legendary pickaxe on crossbow recurve ranger when arena was out

as melee

[wispy lichen]

looked at the stats, my pickaxe is 0.2% better

so purple and gold pickaxe definitely faster

[proper ginkgo]

Some wizards are just fucking around making the monsters and bosses invisible to annoy other players on PvE. Reporting everyone doing that

[onyx wharf]

Lmao if you can’t handle pve you deserve death

[quasi plover]

does expressman only come after that raids done

[proper ginkgo]

not about not being able to handle pve when someone is making the boss invisible innit

[hard rock]

They do indeed call me the God of dark and darker

[fringe stratus]

could any1 perchance gift me legendary status or seasonal pass🙏 🙌

[past rune]

Maidenless

[fringe stratus]

legendary status is on sallllleeeeee

[dark merlin]

Got my first HR lich kill, just to get countered and see that I got a skull key and lost it lmao

Its like $20 no? Not bad price.

[fringe stratus]

parents wont buy it bc i got caught with 32 ounces of za😔

[vivid raft]

Hey when is SDF going to fix the absurdity that is Cleric?

[dark merlin]

Well well well the consequences of your actions

[shy spruce]

yeah if they want to go P2W legendary should be fre

[fringe stratus]

i still got hella🫡

[silent sequoia]

Plz dont bring back the market with these broken gear rolls

[dark merlin]

I dont think it is horrible though correct? If its just storage and potions who caressss

[shy spruce]

storage and bonus market slots

[dark merlin]

oh i didnt know they sold extra market slots

[vivid raft]

The stash space and equivalent of 50 cave trolls worth of grinding and bonus slots means they get quicker access to BiS gear and don't need to waste time farming for storage

[shy spruce]

and lets not lie to ourselves and act like that many large gold bags can be farmed that quickly

[wispy snow]

crash?

[dark merlin]

Its not like they are gonna win because they have storage in my opinion. I dont play as much as you guys do most likely but I have never had trouble with storage when you have access to like 8 characters

[formal gale]

genuinely fucking absurd how you can enter one room and every single npc bodyblocks you

[dark merlin]

Yeah aggro is finnicky

[atomic crag]

market going to crash????

[dark merlin]

Oh ok, I was about to say. IN that case yeah it is p2w or pay for QOL. It is annoying to jump between characters I will admit.

. . . OH you have to pay for it hahhaaa

[sleek lark]

you also just cant sell some items on market without gold bags/chests unless you want multiple stash tabs full of gold pouches which i dont

[surreal dove]

Again, its about having more market slots, which means you can be more active on the market which results in higher possible income, meaning you can obtain more high-tier kits to play with.
Just like with Tarkov, where having a slightly bigger size of pockets or a secure container won't make you better at aiming, making it easier to progress throughout the Game and its mechanics by paying more money than other players is the definition of P2W

[shy spruce]

Exactly people act like because it doesnt give you the sword of weebslaying its not pay to win, but the whole point of dark and darker is grinder to progress your account, storage etc, this skips alot of the whole point of the game which is technically "winning"

[dark merlin]

hm interesting, but it cant be that much of a difference even so right? I hope? Maybe someone can do some math haha

[sleek lark]

its a massive difference. i ended most days last wipe filling 40-50 market orders now i will only be able to sell 10 items at a time. good items take long to sell and you need a lot of gold storage to hold an item selling for 6k+ gold. anyone who buys the pass doesnt have any of these issues

[sour shale]

yoooo does anyone know if i can combine red and blue shards to buy somethng??? have 6 blue could buy 2 red and maybe get the golden goose?

[swift ether]

Play warlock and use phantomize

[surreal dove]

Pretty much, and gaining an advantage or beeing able to progress faster by spending real money is the definiton of paying to win.
It doesnt matter what type of advantage you get, or if the advantage is not guaranteed like a gamble for example, the fact you have an advantage by paying already qualifies

[vivid raft]

get a job holy christ stop begging

[outer dawn]

My NordVPN threat detection is saying that darkanddarker.com has malicious code on it and is warning me not to go on it. Anyone else worried about that shit or what.

[gilded epoch]

anyone havng issues with logging in?

[sleek lark]

"Don't worry. That won't happen in our game. If something like P2W happens in this game, criticize us harshly. We will definitely listen to the players."

[vivid raft]

Any skin that can be bought will real money that gives bonus stats which is otherwise unachievable is literally paying for an unfair advantage over others.

[light island]

do you awaken the bosses with frost bitten mallet or is there more stuff to summon bosses with?

[vivid raft]

That's Wyvern only

[light island]

how does one summon the other bosses?

[ocean imp]

They just needed money after losing a bunch to the lawsuite, so what

[light island]

how to summon the other bosses

[surreal dove]

Yea, that was their first iteration of "can we pull this off without major backlash", and then after it has established for a while we are now slowly getting more predatory business practices

[amber tulip]

i havent in a bit

[lapis mural]

lantern shield also can riposte now without hitting it 🙂 man you did such a great job with the last patch lmao

[weary panther]

anyone got any extra royal candleabras i just need one and its hell

[mint briar]

stuck on loading into crypts, what do

[ocean gale]

God I love my favorite game of Cleric and Druider

[latent basin]

when is new wipe

[vague quarry]

2 weeks ago

[velvet glen]

do you know what the sun looks like

[autumn burrow]

when is the new wiape ceoming oute?

[kindred lance]

does troll pelt still drop in pve

[devout galleon]

LUL FTC.

[devout galleon]

late to the party by almost 2 weeks

[vague quarry]

The Lanham Act deals with trademark not whatever you are trying to say it deals with.

[hollow kraken]

Does anyone have a picture of a demonfly?
Its needed for the "Safe Keeping" -> "Foulburster" quest from the Woodsman

[inland otter]

if i had legendary status on epic games where can i put the legendary status code in blacksmith launcher

[clear berry]

has anything been said about locking the gates in goblin cave for those who didnt kill the bosses? the ratting is insane and unavoidable, it was better before map randomization

[surreal lynx]

What ores should i make into powder and ingots? I have a bunch of copper cobalt and rubysilver but what should i turn it into?

[limpid dirge]

They look like a chonky death beetle. They're in Inferno seemingly in the same spawn pools as Death Skulls. That quest is kind of a pain, as you have to kill it before it explodes on you which doesn't count for the kill

[inland hatch]

just depends on your class. Rogues, rangers, bards, magic classes etc wear more cloth, so powder is the way to go. Fighter, cleric, plate warlock and possibly barb wear more plate. So go ingots for them.

[inland hatch]

if you’re looking to sell it, I’d go with ingots though, they usually sell for more on market (when that opens of course)

[fallen dome]

is dungeon recovery only for normals?

[velvet cobalt]

whos ready for wipe tmr? this prewipe event was hella boring

[inland hatch]

Yeah sadly, sdf got rid of HR recovery

[fallen dome]

damn my only good kit lol thanks for the quick reply my guy

[ocean imp]

game crashed 5 times already today wtf

[inland hatch]

Np :3

Is cockatrice even worth it, I’ve spent hours farming those quest items and I’m about ready to give up. The npc I mean

[grand shadow]

where do you go after killing both the Troll and Cyclops now in the goblin caves for the gold ore?

[amber tulip]

altar room

[inland hatch]

It’s the cave altar module

[hardy stump]

The guy with economic advantage will be the guy with troll pelt, not the one with untradable bag

[inland hatch]

The DLC gives you more market slots, which is an economic advantage. At least what I gathered from his argument

[hardy stump]

that i do acknowledge

but people arguing that gold storage gives advantage, especially just 5 untradable bags does not know how to store value

[inland hatch]

I feel like the bags aren’t much of a big deal as they’re not tradable but the market slots fs do tilt the scale

[tiny briar]

game crashed 3 times today wtfffff

[hardy stump]

on the long run, it still is a benefit mostly to people who don't do HR and don't run BIS, 1 good legendary item will sell for hundreds to thousands gold, BIS always sells fast and well, the slots will mainly advantage casual players who sell a lot of cheap trash

[limpid topaz]

Each troll pelt would go for bout 12k, wolfx4 8k, so 100k advantage...

Predator marketing strat, classic eastern studios

[inland hatch]

what’s that supposed to mean

[inland hatch]

Also they’re not even tradable the hell

[noble sentinel]

Finally got a gold bag from my lvl up reward token after using close to 50 of those things

[obtuse oasis]

does dragon drop artifacts now?

[prisma lava]

in 225+

[obtuse oasis]

yipeeee

[fickle rose]

when dcing in low roller can you reconnect?

[rapid fossil]

how much rep do you need to craft the boss summons?

[noble sentinel]

You can reconnect in all tiers if you aren't dead

[astral atlas]

can anyone get into dnd right now? its not working for me rn

[limpid topaz]

Taking market slots to sell them back, thats predator mkting. Troll pelts will be sellable tomorrow

[prisma lava]

the whole trade slots thing is such a weak argument. I listed 10 things before, the next day they pretty much all sold.

[leaden lion]

can you get gold containers from reward tokens?

[prisma lava]

I believe only bags.

Unless you're listing really badly priced items, or items that would have been better just to vendor, the extra slots are again convenience

[sleek dome]

What do we feel is the best aggressive pvp class for 124 gs solo

[prisma lava]

barbarian

[polar torrent]

Cleric is actually disgusting in low gear

[sleek dome]

i think i see maybe 1 barb a day lmao 2025 balance not pt2

[prisma lava]

Bard is arguably even better with range, but then so is fighter

[leaden lion]

fighter no matter what

[prisma quest]

every time ive taken a red today i get trapped loading and have to restart my game, is this just me?

[fervent anvil]

just u

[prisma quest]

any idea what i can do to fix? tried validating files already and nothing.

[viral hornet]

Anyone else unable to load into inferno without force quitting the game and relaunching/reconnecting? Happened every game I went down last night

[prisma quest]

MEE, but just today I was fine yesterday

[viral hornet]

Oh I just looked up 🤣 I reconnect in solidarity with you brother

I was only having trouble with loading into inferno, crypts was fine

[prisma quest]

having trouble in both rn

[prisma lava]

you aint selling "bis" on the market homie

[wanton otter]

anyone else crashing alot just today?

[tall arch]

yeah

[prisma quest]

thank god its not just me lol

[wind venture]

https://imgur.com/BnfG5BC I felt happiness for a brief moment.. until I saw it.. now I'm sad

[fresh girder]

yea tons of crashes

[bitter grotto]

ID:TTNON
ID:overe5
Who should I report this matter to? They are extremely arrogant and domineering. They use cheating functions (such as auto-aiming, map perspective) to hunt down other players on the map. Their professions are mages and rogues. This happened on the server in Singapore.

[turbid zinc]

goblin recovery works on high roller?

[rapid fossil]

anyone know the rep needed for all the craft summons?

[prisma lava]

I mean its the truth. Not even a personal attack fam. Your logic is just wrong.

[noble phoenix]

are we getting guilds anytime soon? I thought I read about that somewhere

[prisma lava]

Nice cherry pick. I said you aren't selling "bis" on the market.

[turbid zinc]

goblin recovery works on high roller?

[prisma lava]

Nah

Playing victim. Fam, i never said YOU aren't selling bis. My retort was stating the fact that "bis" doesnt sell on the market. You trade keys and other easily sellable things

[turbid zinc]

Is it confirmed somewhere? Im trying to understand how this whole recovery works but ppl on reddits etc dont seem to know it either

[prisma lava]

Confirmed by my multiple kits never coming back lol

[willow granite]

is the game wiping when market opens?

[prisma lava]

Nah

[meager ore]

Does norms ghost king still drop skull key? Killed him over 20 times for nothing so far

[amber blaze]

servers are on? i waiting 7 min to go ruin castle lvl 2

[lapis stream]

so we have cheaters in highroller running triple rouge that 2 shot full pdr fighter w 170 hp great game iron mace

[abstract apex]

you need to buy the DLC it's 9$

[meager ore]

Get a life that isn’t complaining 24/7 😭

[abstract apex]

i get 4 minutes a day between my 27 jobs and 56 kids to play games. and i spend those 4 minutes complaining on discord.

[sharp talon]

Wit 27 jobs (and 56 slaves) you should be able to own ironmace by now, go fix it.

[abstract apex]

i can't touch em. i live in Hawaii big dawg.

[sharp talon]

Why have slaves if not to use them

[heavy anvil]

Just pay a chinese dude to do it

In a day we will start seeing the most crazy vile builds

[abstract apex]

cant wait

[amber tulip]

oh do you have to play us west servers? hows the ping?

[prisma lava]

I'm just excited to buy lockpicks

[abstract apex]

Fine i got a hardline to the shores. it's ruff out here

[amber tulip]

druid is the worst class to play high ping on too

[abstract apex]

Hawaii servers when?

[amber tulip]

yes give hackers a new server to queue into hehe

[abstract apex]

Hackers? more like free loot bags i swear

[white magnet]

holy fuck i had a 5 minute fight with a druid he reset 4 times...so ridiculous

[jaunty bobcat]

with how many trolls are in adventure mode, im getting hella burnt out in this game, making me want to play other stuff, are there lots of trolls in pvp? I.E. people that pulls mobs away from you while agro dumping 8+ mobs onto you perfectly

[abstract apex]

Shoulda played better.

[white magnet]

I played nearly perfectly but in <124 i just didn't have the tools to finish him (axes etc)

[abstract apex]

oh sorry i was talking about the druid it shoulda only tooken him one.

[prisma lava]

Much less toxic. I play almost exlusively HR. Just gotta watch out for rogues

[abstract apex]

only time i experience mob dumping is when its on piles or bosses.

[prisma lava]

The aggro system needs a rework

[abstract apex]

100%. Only thing that should drop inital aggro is hide or invis pots

[rancid blaze]

anyone else getting disconnected a lot today?

[lament vale]

yes

[frank dagger]

yeah i just lost my kit to it

[abstract apex]

either than that enemies that've been hit need to focus on the person whos hit them/closest

[buoyant grove]

are they sure they've fixed droprates of quest items? I've killed overe 100 cockatrices and not a single feather but 4 eggs

[untold coral]

my game has been getting disconnected a lot

[prisma lava]

PvE?

[cosmic nimbus]

can warlord spawn in normals now?

[subtle heart]

I was searching for gore discord server how did i come here

[vital wharf]

wtf

[grim smelt]

bro just go outside

[prisma lava]

Profile pic checks out. Welcome

[burnt tulip]

yo my buddy just got off to go to work and i got his gear out, and goblin gave it back. how long does the goblin hold it for?

[prisma lava]

Hope he didnt like his kit

[cosmic swan]

1 hours usually. Don't know if it's the same when it send you friend kit back

[buoyant grove]

normals

[burnt tulip]

darn. thanks guys

[mossy vessel]

Has the game been crashing a bunch for anyone else?

[cobalt swallow]

servers are rough rn i take it? I was kicked twice, thank goodness I wasn't in a run or I would be more upset

[prisma lava]

Super unluck then, i think i killed 40ish before i got mine. Make sure to hit both spawns and dip if they're not up

[peak light]

from what mod do you get the "primitive bracelet"?

[grim smelt]

It randomly takes us me and my duo both out after some games

[prisma lava]

kobolds in ice cave

[woeful zealot]

no market is only way to play game sucks its not open ssf with no bosses is a crying shame

[peak light]

tnx

[elder beacon]

my report numbers turned yellow

[spring frigate]

Any way we can up the drop rate on lucky feathers? I have 12 eggs(having killed hundreds of them) but no feathers

[prisma lava]

I'm kinda enjoying the SSF tho. Nice to not run into 330 ms tanks

[subtle heart]

Wym

[subtle heart]

I just went outside today

[prisma lava]

Your profile pic, the sad looking meme girl, is fitting for someone who is looking for a gore discord lol

[grim smelt]

Good progress keep it up!

[midnight niche]

ive had a server timeout error message about half a dozen times today, is anyone else having issues?

[prisma lava]

Zero, but I only play ice caves map. Seems like its a crypts or castle bug rn

[subtle heart]

Oh damn thanks

[prisma lava]

Download Dark and Darker, free to play. Sick game, very gore

[solid cypress]

died to lich in pve do i get my stuff back? game should be over by now and no stuff

[prisma lava]

Yes, just gotta wait

[bitter shadow]

Is there any way to activate Vsync ? cant find it in the options

[winter dagger]

how exactly does the goblin recovery work idgi

[solid cypress]

[rare stream]

if nobody picks your items up, then you will be able to purchase them back from the goblin, after the match is finished.

[prisma lava]

In PvE and non HR lobbies, you get whatever gear back no one loots off of you. After the match concludes, the merchant will sell you your kit back

[winter dagger]

it seems to be very hit or miss for me. it seems like i dont always get my stuff back from pve. i might just be not paying attention tho.

[prisma lava]

100% just missing it. You get everything back in PvE mode.

[winter dagger]

aha thank you thats the most likely explanation tbf.

[wild jasper]

I just put an item in the expressmen and recieved the item. However the item was not minted to my name butdoes say "looted". Does anyone know if I will be able to use this item in arenas?

[past rune]

There’s also a time limit I believe on getting it back so if you forget and take too long it will disappear

[prime crypt]

You cannot

[prisma lava]

Currently anything put in the expressman isnt minted, so nah

[narrow carbon]

If you stack armor pen/magic pen, what happens when you stack more penetration than the player has resistance? Does it go into negative or will it not affect anything at all

[eager walrus]

guys i have a question. can luck affect the reward token probability?

[little hollow]

Nothing you express will be minted

[white magnet]

bring back fog of war please. people are just rushing to POI and its a mexican standoff. people are ignoring 85% of the dungeon

[cosmic swan]

Yes pls https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/631753/bring-back-fog-of-war-but-better

[prisma lava]

I believe you will do additional damage then. Thats why bards shriek is so effective against mobs with little to no armor

[prisma lava]

FoW is trash for games like this

[past rune]

I agree with you but the community has spoken and the majority of players don’t like it. I understand why though, makes it hard asf for new players to learn maps or modules/escapes and it also makes everything RNG and not skill based

[solar dome]

Skill based bro means just camping until another team starts boss fight lmao

[white magnet]

That's just like, your opinion man. I happen to enjoy it and it seems to be a 50/50 issue

[prisma lava]

agreed,

[solar dome]

Skill based is when you don’t worry about dungeons orientation because you have no problems clearing it

[white magnet]

make the boss summoning item also show where the boss is on the map with like a skull icon

[chilly yew]

@glad thunder yo man nerf cleric

[past rune]

If you get killed doing boss it’s your own fault, if someone enters while you’re doing it just leave the room/reset and take the L or push the other team. I don’t die often to boss counters

[tidal bronze]

Can you still pull a artifact from gobo gamba?

[solar dome]

Exactly I never die to boss, just after killing it when 2 teams rush it because the whole map can camp it unless you clear every player

[cosmic swan]

Exactly, there's a very good suggestion with lots of good idea. Read it and share it if you like https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/631753/bring-back-fog-of-war-but-better

[ocean coral]

why did the treasure hoard drop rates get deleted from the wiki

[fierce moth]

is the test server bugged? cant do hr

[little hollow]

Yeah after the update hr doesn’t work anymore

[fierce moth]

:v this is scam

[meager ore]

can norms ghost king still drop sk? doesnt feel like it

[little hollow]

I wonder what was changed since this is a newer build than live servers

[fierce moth]

really look forward to trying the hr bosses ngl without being poked in the butt

[errant ore]

they need to implement a system where when im fighjting a boss, im given a specific amount ofd time to complete it without being fucked with. the fact that anyone can shoot your boss, or come in and completely throw it is so bad.

[little hollow]

Same lol

[tulip knot]

The arena with uniques that happend last wipe (i din't play but i think it was in the last), is only uniques that your character got or is it any unique that won't be lost?

[sharp talon]

Aint no way

[fierce moth]

where do we even find the patch notes lol

[chilly yew]

yes bro it needs a nerf

[little hollow]

I think there is another discord for test server but i don’t know what it is @fierce moth

[prisma lava]

#📢announcements @fierce moth

[fierce moth]

:v i only thought there was 3 the hall of knights the collector guild and this

[tribal zodiac]

I do a lot. Only at ruins 1st floor

[fierce moth]

for test server bro not main

[prisma lava]

ah, my apolgies

[little hollow]

I did pull a bag and a chest in one run on my first game after the update though lol @fierce moth in normals

[sharp talon]

Literally why

Clerics lose 99% of ranged encounters

[chilly yew]

i think you knowqbro

[fierce moth]

i already did that in main server ngl chest from pve spectral and pouch in inferno

[little hollow]

No luck on main sadly

[fierce moth]

wanted to play with the named items ngl xD since i will never get to use it in the mian server

[flat dust]

What is the point of ores? I looked it up and see unique crafting recipes but I dont have the afinity for those venders.... yet ive done all of their quests?

[fierce moth]

soon the quests aint out ironmace dont want us to progress too fast

[little hollow]

I need a catice so bad. It’s so sick

[fierce moth]

never seen the new ones yet so idk xD since i cant do warlord

[tulip knot]

well man, ur seeing this game in a Solo vision only, if you play all three modes, cleric right now is probably the best melee in the game XD

[past rune]

It was an end of wipe event, doubt they will allow them again until it’s the end of wipe again

[flat dust]

gotcha, i have some gold ore, ruby ore, and cobalt im just sitting on (did the cobalt quest already)

[bitter pike]

When do we get a lobby where players can't bring anything except squire/vendor gear inside?

[reef narwhal]

• nerf mele cleric
• nerf druid

• new ice spell wiz

[tulip knot]

Yeah i know, i just wanted to know if i get a artifact with my one class, i can use it in another one and don't lose. (I'm thinking about getting my first artifact but after this new summon mechanic and the difficult to learn bosses withouth having 5 hours to play non stop is kinda putting me down XD)

[charred veldt]

Guys I JUST asked chatGPT which boss drops Catice and Bloodthirst in Dark and Darker...
mfer replied saying catice was a "One-Handed Mace" for cleric/druid and Bloodthirst was a... "Two-Handed Polearm" that "deals 20 Evil True Magical Base Damage", is this accurate?

[light oasis]

Collectors guild isn’t official.

[fierce moth]

i see

[fierce moth]

do u have a list then?

[sleek dome]

imagine no bossing phew the game would be back to the glory days

[wanton tartan]

Just got my first disconnect rip

[burnt sky]

same

[charred veldt]

guys what boss drops catice

[oak geyser]

whats the best class for killing bosses?

[fierce moth]

bard cleric druid rogue depends honestly

[oak geyser]

what does it depend on?

[fierce moth]

what boss it is if undead cleric is the best but bard also has shriek etc

for druid and rogue idku have to ask them

[oak geyser]

ok thank you

[little hollow]

Bard is always the best bosser but everyone else does good also

[opaque stratus]

When does market come out I’m on vacation and can’t check

[prisma lava]

i think in about 26 hours

[fierce moth]

let me know when test server changes are made xD gonna sleep fak it

[balmy jasper]

How can we send in clips of ppl teaming in HR it’s ridiculous

[thorny fjord]

lol i am stuck in loading screen

[tribal void]

Anyone else having crash loops on DaD?

Was being caused by crazy active discord server for some reason

[brisk hare]

when are they gonna nerf cleric lol

[amber tulip]

its abilities are v strong def but i think any nerf* would push it into unplayable territory. i remember when solo cleric was troll for so long

[still geyser]

Have gone down to inferno 4 times today and died 3 lol solo is difficult

[brisk hare]

nah bro i still think cleric is so busted

[smoky jetty]

why has europe so many people in 224 solos ice abyss its flooded cant even loot in peace, 5 people for solos on a tinny map is a bit too much, imho

[amber tulip]

what specifically about cleric? im mostly seeing the FL cleric solo builds in dungeons

[stable echo]

Why did IM add back in regular interaction speed and magical interaction speed modifiers and with LOWER max rolls for these. We have already had these in the game and no one uses them at all because they are completely useless. Same with why can any weapon other then spell casting ones get memory add

[smoky jetty]

so that its even harder to get good affixes rolled on

[brisk hare]

all i run into is smite judgement clerics with morning star

[amber tulip]

what class you play?

[brisk hare]

fighter and i really cannot parry morning star for anything

[stable echo]

It feels like garbage getting an item that has a bunch of rolls or a unique weapon with add mem or interaction speed

[smoky jetty]

was prolly sdfs idea

[stable echo]

Yeah makes sense also to add regular and magical interaction speed with even less max roll than it had before because clearly so many people loved going interaction speed

[umbral dove]

is anyone concerned about the annti cheat this game uses?

[gritty scroll]

No more than any other games anticheat

[umbral dove]

this one keeps running even when the game isn't on look into it and what it can do to ur pc

[gritty scroll]

Oh I'm aware. At least this game is hosted in a country that is allied with the US.

[umbral dove]

yeah but it still shortens ur pc lifespan bro?

[gritty scroll]

So does turning on your PC

[umbral dove]

bro what 😭

[prime warren]

how can i start the boss??

[gritty scroll]

Everything you do on your PC shortens its lifespan

[manic hill]

its true though. anything you do will shorten your pcs lifespan.

[umbral dove]

yeah i know that but this anti cheat does it at an increased rate due to how it works

[gritty scroll]

I doubt that. Or if so it's probably no more offending than other anticheats

[gentle orchid]

thats aight dank and stanker is worth it

[umbral dove]

thats like saying u may as well put the wrong fuel in ur car cos its gonna break down one day eventually anyway

[gritty scroll]

Where did you even hear this info? Heh

[umbral dove]

please look into it properly as to what it actually does and how it functions

[gritty scroll]

You first

[umbral dove]

ive already read multiple discussions about it and searched it myself

[gritty scroll]

Cite your sources

[sterile anvil]

Im here to say my piece. ALL of the boss changes from wipe are awful. Trolls hp being nearly doubled makes the fight incredibly boring and grindy. spending multiple hours learning the fight for it to turn into walking in a circle around a guy for four straight minutes is pretty lame. GK is better now, but is still just arbitrary damage to slow the fight down. unblockable, undodgable damage is not good boss design, especially in a game where ten hp could cost you your kit and numerous hours of grinding. let skilled players do well, dont punish them for it. redesign the bosses if you think they're too easy, dont just make them take longer or turn them into med checks.

[rustic socket]

nerf ranger please thank you.

[gentle orchid]

Take druid out and we’ll call it even

[umbral dove]

it even searches parts of ur pc it doesn't need to and yeah okay but ill have to go and find them cos i love this game but im not spending 1000 or whatever on a pc for it to break cos of a game i love this game its my favourite pc game ever

[unborn hare]

DID THE 4 ROOMS GET TAKEN OUT OF ROTATION?

[gritty scroll]

Lmao big claims for someone with zero proof

[umbral dove]

bro i just said im gonna get u the sources are u good?

[past rune]

Yeah it’ll take you awhile to get one but atleast now you can run it in PvE if nothing else

[gritty scroll]

I'm gucci

[unborn hare]

bro has anyone found the 4 rooms location this wipe? 3 days straight 8 hour days no 4 room location spawn

[sterile anvil]

thats just how kernel level anti cheat works. it doesn't harm your pc. it is invasive but thats the nature of this kind of anti cheat. if IM had malicious intentions with it, we would have found out the hard way by now. monitor your system if you're concerned about damage, uninstal the game if you think IM is stealing your feet pics.

[gritty scroll]

Pretty much that.

Cheats are operating at the kernel level, so anticheats are operating on the kernel level now, too. It's an ongoing arms race.

[wicked basin]

This wipe is pretty much the 💩 wipe of all wipes.

[sterile anvil]

if you think this is bad, look up what valorant anti cheat can do

[gritty scroll]

I mean... All the same things but it's China

[tropic sandal]

That one was fun to remove

[gritty scroll]

Or Tarkov's BattleEye in Russia...

[sterile anvil]

and BattleEye doesn't even come close to working

[languid thorn]

can some1 confirm modules names with demonflies in inferno, please?

[charred flame]

wait, so i just logged in today and all of my progress is gone

is this part of the game or a bug?

[sterile anvil]

when did you last play?

[charred flame]

maybe a month ago?

[sterile anvil]

wipe was a few weeks ago, like tarkov wipes

[charred flame]

i havent played tarkov, does the game just reset everyones progress occasionally?

[uneven rover]

a couple of weeks actually

[gritty scroll]

New wipes every few months on average

[uneven rover]

yeah

[charred flame]

so- whats even the point of playing this game? this seems like a colossal waste of time

[ivory fjord]

is arenas still where u can bring anything in . any1 know?

[little hollow]

Just like any other game that wipes lol

[sterile anvil]

yeah, everything but your skins and character names. keeps the game fresh, makes it so theres always something to work toward

[gentle orchid]

Get this man on rust asap

[little hollow]

Enjoy the game and have fun

[uneven rover]

bro if they dont wipe everybody will become soooooo rich and the trade will be useles and prices will get demolished just like inflation

[sterile anvil]

also keeps the disparity between new and old players smaller

[prime crypt]

This would change nothing. They’re just gonna get the same BiS within 2 weeks.

[graceful storm]

does the dark magic library actually even exist anymore :/

[uneven rover]

yeah im new and for my luck its a new wipe so i can enjoy the game

[prisma lava]

Its been two weeks.. There should be no disparity

[gritty scroll]

As long as you have some players who play a lot and others who play a little, there will always be a disparity. Can't be avoided, only mitigated with wipes.

[sterile anvil]

experienced players can do more content and know where to get the stuff they need, new players are still dying to goblins

[graceful storm]

is game would be giga dead already if it didnt wipe

[gritty scroll]

Plus, you want variety in these games. If everyone was always even it would remove some of the tension

[prisma lava]

A gear wipe will not change the fact.

[prime crypt]

We’re talking about wiping the game right now. Read and keep up.

[stuck brook]

I wish I could play without the game crashing every 20 minutes

[gritty scroll]

It mitigates the problem

[charred hull]

remove moving swarm

[sterile anvil]

you're right, but it means that i cant be sitting on a mountain of the best gear when little tim tim starts the game up for the first time

[wanton otter]

Eldritch Shield shouldn't pop all your Darkness shards, it doesn't do dmg and essentially just neuters your +3 all on the spot. Feels TERRIBLE please remove the non-synergy- tf.

[prisma lava]

Negative ghost rider. There is PvE for a reason. If a wipe was intended they're should have never been HR season beginning

[sterile anvil]

stop casting it then

[graceful storm]

that would also be a terrible idea

[umbral dove]

@gritty scroll https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/comments/1hil9nx/taverncomn_3_1_dark_and_darker_anticheat/ https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199595547745/recommended/2016590/ https://steamcommunity.com/app/2016590/discussions/0/6513974885817741044/?ctp=2 theres a few links i cant find all the ones i last looked at because i come back to this topic every couple of months hoping that they may have changed something so that i can comfortably play the game. As well as this there is a rlly good review on the game which talks on this topic but i couldn't find it but maybe you'd be able to if u looked through the negative reviews lol

[wanton otter]

THE DISCUSSION IS HOW I'M INCENTIVIZED TO NOT TAKE IT ALL being the problem

[sterile anvil]

scroll up to my response brother

[gentle orchid]

give barb passive crush

[umbral dove]

bet

[sterile anvil]

okay but you can have +3 all stats (very strong) or you can have infinite magic protection pots (also very strong), im glad you cant have both

[gritty scroll]

I don't follow your logic. But whatever.

[wanton otter]

It's a call for change, not a matter of not running it because it's awful for dark shards, it EATS them with no benefit.

At least buff the spell in some capacity for the effort.

[sterile anvil]

the spell is really good tho

[wanton otter]

Should it interact negatively with the kit tho.

[keen sedge]

it doesnt do damage so the 33% per dark shard makes no sense

[wanton otter]

Eldritch shield BUFFS spells for a measly 4 seconds after popping, but it removes your darkness shards on cast, it's a dark spell with a dark ability they should be complimentary.

[thorny fjord]

is there a list of items what i need for all missions

[gentle orchid]

get rid of druid
makes no sense

[umbral dove]

its hard to find all my previous sources but someone said that the way it goes around scanning ur drives is what damages them quicker than what it should do they posted an in depth description about it on a steam discussions post but i could'nt find it cos like i said i first found it months ago

[fringe stratus]

druid is peak

[gentle orchid]

YOU 🫵 are what’s wrong

[trail flame]

any one struggling to get a cockatrice feather or just me? ive killed 40+

[wanton otter]

you in HR?

[gentle orchid]

got 2 yesterday i’m ngl

[trail flame]

all game modes - with luck kits of 300+ luck

[keen sedge]

true

[gentle orchid]

This guy gets it

[undone belfry]

im having a lot of returning to lobby after escape to none of my loot extracted, I have to restart the game and its there... anyone else?

[wanton otter]

HR is the riskier but better route. Bring and lose luck gear over and over. Cocki feather/egg quest is terrible.

[sterile anvil]

yeah i've seen that get floated around more than a few times, they're almost always talking about plater drives being spun up while they shouldn't be, makes no sense that it would cause damage to them. also i've monitored my own storage while tavern is running and found nothing strange. like i said, monitor your system for yourself if its a concern

[wanton otter]

Got a unique cape from cocki's but besides that I'm stuck on the egg part.

[trail flame]

ive gotten 3 eggs lol

[gentle orchid]

facts 0 eggs for me

[trail flame]

makes no sense

[wanton otter]

sucks it's blue as well so it's essentially a coin flip when you do get a drop.

[umbral dove]

bet

[austere shard]

add 2% movespeed to the slayer perk, slayer gets all the "PDR fighter' nerfs and its literally a different class. Most classes are reaching 103-104% movespeed without even building correct. trying to play slayer fighter is so difficult because it already is horrible and on top of that it can't play the intended way that slayer should which would be as a mobile class it starts at aroudn 98% move speed.

[trail flame]

my luck is ass lol, appriciate the feedback though

[wanton otter]

good hunting, keep your head out there. I will too

[sterile anvil]

nah man, slayer is incredible at low gear score and fighter needs zero buffs right now

[wanton otter]

Warlock should have a ranged spell that snuffs out lights.

[gritty scroll]

From what I can tell, your "sources" are people leaving reviews about the game and talking out their ass without any real knowledge of what's going on at all. If their concern is CPU usage, I don't see that problem on my system. If their concern is storage degredation, I don't see that problem on my system. And I would be very surprised to see either one as a result of an anti-cheat running.

[gentle orchid]

give barb passive crush and on the side remove druid

[austere shard]

this is so incorrect its hilarious, slayer is outclassed by 10 football fields by everyone in the game and they can't even pick fights because they have no ability to run away because of the movespeed gap

[gritty scroll]

Are anticheats too invasive these days? Yes. Is it destroying your PC? I doubt it.

[robust root]

Is server down ?

[wanton otter]

Servers crashing like crazy today

[robust root]

Is it playable at all?

[sterile anvil]

i hate to say it brother but, skill issue. when i play slayer i slay. you can't stat check tanks, and they cant catch you

[formal sequoia]

where do the demon flies appear ?

[robust root]

Yeah slayers not outclassed at all

[sterile anvil]

in higher gs its trash tbh

[wanton otter]

why play slayer fighter when you can dual wield Hatchet and Viking sword on barb with the +3 weapon dmg axe skill

[spare trellis]

The devs planning on fixing the rollbacks or not

[wanton otter]

5 and 3 aren't so different

[umbral dove]

mate just do ur own research i literally said that i couldn't find the previous discussion with someone who gave an in depth explanation to multiple people about how it works and why it should'nt work the way it does. what do u want my sources to be for them to be credible for u? elon musk or smth?

[wanton otter]

rollbacks extremely rare unless a duping bug is discovered or something

[austere shard]

I'm demigod only on slayer almost every season....you can only outrun tanks and clerics, every other class catches you you insane goofball, imagine trying to make the arguemenbt that slayer is good. its literally the worst build in the game...have you checked on warlock, druid, bard, barb, pdr fighter, sorceror, melee cleric lately? imagine trying to act like slayer is comparable...slayer is litearlly just a guy with a sword

[wanton otter]

skill issue

[robust root]

That’s def trolling

[sterile anvil]

i mean if you're playing slayer in HR i found your problem. like i said, its really good in low gear score

[gritty scroll]

I seriously doubt the quality of your "research." Additionally, everything I'm seeing on my system while the game is running is directly contradicting what you're claiming.

[robust root]

You gear swap on slayer bruh

[wanton otter]

gearswap is removed

[robust root]

I see

[compact pecan]

Does anyone know when controller support is supposed to come to mobile?

[umbral dove]

so do some urself like i said?

[wanton otter]

😂

I miss kris on warlock

[gritty scroll]

Ok here is some research
Game is running
CPU usage 12%
Memory usage 15GB
Disk usage 3%
GPU usage 32%

That all seems well within normal ranges to me lol

[olive frost]

Bro forreal I sent a support ticket haven’t even message me back how you gonna make a season pass that screws ppl over

[umbral dove]

i havent been on about performance lmao 😭

[gritty scroll]

You're literally talking about how it's so inefficient it destroys your PC lmao

[olive frost]

Is dnd not up rn my game keeps closing

[gritty scroll]

I can't with you anymore bro. Go take some computer science classes and come back later

[ripe hare]

is goblin recovery turend off in 225 hr

[olive frost]

Stop fighting guys grab a beer and relaxxxxxz

[abstract spire]

wait wait wait
since when first twitch drops are purchasable via redstones ?

[olive frost]

It don’t matter not worth any of your time to argue with someone you will never meet

[gritty scroll]

Paid Nexon bot over there

[abstract spire]

did really an EXCLUSIVE turn in PAID SKINS ???

[gentle orchid]

at this point just ask chat GPT ai > cs degree now

[olive frost]

So is dnd down rn?

[gritty scroll]

Nope

[umbral dove]

not once did i say it effects performance its the way it runs the proces instead of it running once to search ur pc it constantly runs then ends then runs a secondary process this is what reduces the life span of the drivers its scanning as ur SSD for example has a certain amount of run/end proccesses within its lifespan what tavern.exe is doing is its reducing this number way quicker than needed and is also doing it when the game isnt running go ahead and close the game and then go on task manager and search for tavern.exe . infact no shut down ur whole pc boot it up and dont open then game. then check to see if tavern.exe is running cos it will be and it should'nt be

[gritty scroll]

That's a lot of words to describe bad performance lmao

[umbral dove]

delete the game and never guess what? tavern.exe will still be there running in the background

[umbral dove]

ur clearly just arrogant and think u know everything im aware im not a computer nerd you've even seen the chats ive had with other people a couple mins ago and i was agreeing with them

[gentle orchid]

if this is true that is a lil bit wild i’m ngl

[gritty scroll]

Also what you have described is normal for anticheats today. As I have already said, it's intrusive, but no more so than other anticheats

[umbral dove]

regardless of the fact tavern.exe should not be searching ur pc when ur not on the game nevermind when u dont even have it installed

no other anti cheat runs when u dont have the game and if it does then u should bin it off

[gritty scroll]

The only thing that is absurd is you are making some pretty ridiculous claims about all the ways dark and darker is going to literally destroy your PC hardware, which is just false. Someone might start to think you had ulterior motives.

[upper mist]

Bro same… every kris i walk by reminds me of what they took from me

[umbral dove]

ulterior motives is crazy bro thinks im the fbi trying to shut down dark and darker my biggest opp

[gritty scroll]

Nah you're nexon

[surreal dove]

There is one other anticheat I can think of which is as wild, which is Vanguard, since it requires to be launched on boot, otherwise youre not allowed to play Riot's games

[umbral dove]

which is why i dont

[upper mist]

Vanguard is a joke

[umbral dove]

coalkey over here just cant seem to take in any new information cos he's something called arrogant

[gritty scroll]

Or maybe I am already educated on the topic, and even moreso than you are. Also, you are the one making claims you cant back up.

[subtle heart]

high roller maps are FUCKING INSANE. yes im a noob

[upper mist]

😂 fr

[surreal dove]

It truly is, and im amazed at how shitty it runs aswell

[robust root]

Ok maybe it’s ass the anti cheat isn’t affecting anyone’s pc at all

You have a toaster if you’re pc can’t run this game lol

[umbral dove]

the game is great i love dark and darker its my favourite pc game and i didnt come on here to bicker i just wanted some more information on it which someone gave me whereas you just shut down whatever i said with no consideration to even chech for these things urself lol. and im not on about checking ur cpu im on about taking ur time to find some seriously good descussions on the topic which are created by people listening to one another and not thinkning that they are better than someone else cos they think they have more pc knowledge lol

[upper mist]

Yeah man i normally dont hate on things like that but fora company of that size and success to make me download what is essentially 2 steps away from malware nah im good

[robust root]

You’re just bad at the game bruh

[upper mist]

I didnt like val that much anyway and i like dota more than league so im good

[umbral dove]

never said i could'nt run it maybe go look through all the other chats

[sterile anvil]

that is every anti cheat though

[robust root]

If you can’t run dark on 60 frames with no drops you have a toaster

[gritty scroll]

There are plenty of people with lots of motivation to shit-talk this game right now with absolutely zero evidence, and I have no patience for it. Go take your Nexon trolling somewhere else.

[upper mist]

Which is why i mainly steer clear if i can but vanguard is uniquely egregious

[sterile anvil]

bro it drops frames everytime someone enters a two module radius of you, play with a counter on for esp, i aint kidding

[robust root]

People who hate on the game can’t handle how difficult it is. They get killed over and over again

[umbral dove]

i run it over that with no issues i dont see ur point who are u even talking to XD

[robust root]

You’re pc is really bad if you drop frames

[sterile anvil]

i am not

[robust root]

Maybe you aren’t very good at gaming

[gritty scroll]

If your PC is shitting the bed, I can guarantee you it's not because you're playing Dark and Darker lmao

[upper mist]

Also dont be so blind to his point. Running the game and suffering fps drops at specific moments arent the same thing

[robust root]

Dark is like running rs3

[upper mist]

Using the fact that the game skips frames is a known tool to know if players are near you or not

Ask like any high level player or someone whos been around for awhile

[robust root]

It’s not normal to skip frames at all. I’ve never even considered that. I didn’t know that could happen.

[sterile anvil]

no fr tho, game is badly optimized and it does drop some frames when someone enters player render distance, in solos i go from about 130 to 120, duos 110 to 90 fps

[upper mist]

Its a very real thing!

[robust root]

That doesn’t make any sense lol

[gritty scroll]

It does if your game is not optimized to cull non-rendered assets from memory

[upper mist]

Please do some research ask around maybe ask some streamers u watch your knowledge of it doesnt determine its reality

[sterile anvil]

or just put an fps counter on your screen next time you play

[robust root]

It’s not possible to see a frame drop from 130-90 cap at 60 that’s really dumb

[sterile anvil]

fps counter

[upper mist]

The game skips frames when players are rendered thats what you should be focusing on

This fact is used by some to know when they are approaching players and is therefore an advantage 👍🏼

[robust root]

Really really stupid I run fps on my pc at all times frames dropping above 60 does not affect gameplay

Just making things up to sound smart at that point

[gritty scroll]

But it does give people a clue about other players being close. So it does affect gameplay.

[umbral dove]

bro im gonna be 100 with u rn like ive said i love this game and i dont even know what ur on about when u talk about nexon cos i couldnt care less about some developer drama it means nothing to me i wanted more genuine information on the anti cheat and all you've done is get defensive over nothing for the minute we started talking ur clearly a waste of my poor fingers muscle movements

[upper mist]

Only those who want to learn can do so those who choose to remain ignorant are exactly that.

[sterile anvil]

with 90% accuracy i can tell you when a team enters my radius and 70% accuracy which direction they are

[robust root]

To consider that making things up to argue for no reason because you die a lot

[gritty scroll]

Are you also a flat earther? Cuz that bogus shit makes about as much sense as what you're on about

[lapis pollen]

is there a good wiki site to look up stuff like droprates of uniques in the different hr game modes?

[robust root]

A lot of people are just bad at every game they play and won’t accept it. Just because you only game doesn’t mean you’re good at it

[umbral dove]

have u seen that video of flat earthers disprooving themselves and then going back on it and saying that they did it wrong i already know 100% that would be u cos you an arrogant egotstical prick and i dread for ur partner if u ever manage to get one because god forbid they have a different opinion or want some info

[sterile anvil]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Dark_and_Darker_Wiki

[umbral dove]

ooo whats he gonna sayyy

[gritty scroll]

"have a different opinion or want some info" is a very interesting way of saying "I am making some wild bullshit claims about this game that have no basis in reality"

[molten ridge]

how much pure magical does ghost king scream do ?

[umbral dove]

dont make me have a cheeky little giggle to myself ive told you time and time again that i was inquiring on what other people had been sayin which you never even bothered to take into account (due to what i stated u are in my last msg)

the nerd emoji is typing

the finger is raised to the ceiling

[gritty scroll]

What you're claiming about the game is just false. I assume it's Nexon influence but it could just be ragebaiting.

Either way we won't get anywhere so peace out

[umbral dove]

i swear you are actually incapeable of holding information in ur noggin i literially told u earlier i have no idea what ur on about with nexon and nor do i even care lol ur so quick to say its false cos u want to be correct for ur little einy weiny ego which matches something down below (by that i mean its there for everyone it see but no one actually wants to see it)

[crimson quail]

Are gems given by the cockatrice looted or handled

[gritty scroll]

Sounds like what a Nexon bot would say

[umbral dove]

ask coalkey bro i think he may be omniscient

[umbral dove]

smelly breath?

[crimson quail]

are gems given by cok looted or handled

[elder geode]

wat

[gritty scroll]

Lmao 😛
idk I have not unlocked

[pastel grotto]

does will affect healing for clerics?

[umbral dove]

ask coalkey i think he may be omniscient

[weary dome]

how can i make the summon for ghost king ?

[elder geode]

Is there a guide out there or a website that shows exactly what each stat means and what it affects? I still don't really know what the difference is between +10 armor rating and 1.2% pdr

[gilded trout]

where can you find loot tables for bosses?

[gritty scroll]

Yes I believe healing spells are considered buffs, which Will can increase buff duration

[sterile anvil]

yes but its actually magical power bonus that directly scales it

[gritty scroll]

Hover your mouse over the skill to see a description

[sterile anvil]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Dark_and_Darker_Wiki shows how all calculations are done, good luck

[umbral dove]

for all inqueries please go directly to @gritty scroll the omniscient mastermind or dial 2 for further support (u dont need further support because @gritty scroll is always right)

[gritty scroll]

Alternatively, go to sausagesarny and they will be happy to make up any old shit

[umbral dove]

ooo hes a quickshot him fastest green skin in the goblin caves

[gritty scroll]

Faster ranger this side of county lines

[umbral dove]

okay dont be corny mate

[gritty scroll]

Corny is my middle name

[umbral dove]

its april 23

[mild sinew]

plkease give us 5 sets instead of 3 for Squire

[elder geode]

Yeah but the description isn't exactly exhaustive. it's kinda high-level but doesn't tell you all abilities that are affected by the stat. Will was just an example, but I'm mostly confused on PDR% vs Armor rating? In general is it better to get + armor rating, or PDR%. It's just not very intuitive.

[tidal rune]

Anyone is getting stuck on going down a level? For the love of god i need to reset my game and reconnect every time i want to go down level to crypt or a inferno... and it started today, there was a patch or something that fc.... my game up?

[gritty scroll]

I agree! I think fortunately they have announced plans for like a testing ground feature

[mild sinew]

thats funny cuz first game going in i crash, rejoining now

[pastel grotto]

thank you!

[sterile anvil]

they're not buffs, buff duration doesn't matter. magical healing scales with magical power directly. look on the wiki for the exact calculation.

[languid cedar]

whats the current movespeed cap?

[thorny fjord]

i put 3x thicc pelt into the guy that extracts and it dissapeared

[limber badge]

Sold it and now he's drinking at the tavern

[thorny fjord]

;-;

[pastel grotto]

thanks for the clarification!

[astral falcon]

when does the next set of quests drop ?

[mild sinew]

330

[molten ridge]

ghost king not possible in solo hr, healing takes too much time and if they thrd party you are surely below half health

[sterile anvil]

armor rating is kind of the same as PDR. your armor rating is run though an equation to get your pdr, but the equation results in diminishing returns at higher armor levels. if you have low armor you get more pdr per armor point essentially. most stats in the game that are expressed as a percentage work this way

[molten ridge]

i gotta farm just to waste time healing from this stupid ass true damage, fix your game in clever ways

[slim latch]

are the servers just trash, loadind and ping wise?

[gentle orchid]

In lieu of the impending open market, what’s the price for them gold keys

[elder geode]

I'm always so confused that they have 2 or 3 stats that do the same thing. What was the reasoning behind that? It just confuses me more than anything. Like should I go with health % or +2 health. What's the difference between additional physical damage, physical damage bonus, true physical damage, etc.

[gentle orchid]

barb more health like percent better

[twilit temple]

YO WASSUP WITH THESE SERVERS TERMINATING? MY GOD

[prime crypt]

You mean farming the materials for a summoning item? Horrible mechanic

[rustic socket]

Sell your game. Yall dont know wtf yall are doin.

[frank viper]

Insane that druid still hasnt been nerfed lol

[daring jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-bowl-hungry-gif-5337018160645280311

[full zephyr]

Why does my payment keep failing for the seasonal pass?

[remote bridge]

Join Dark and Darker's Finest! A new server specifically for HR Boss spamming and BiS PVPing. Have at least 1k hrs. Dm me for inv!

[gentle orchid]

SDF plays druid so no druid nerfs anytime soon unfortunately

[prime crypt]

It has been, but you won’t stop crying until it’s an unplayable class

[sterile anvil]

so with the pdr example we have add armor and % pdr as random rolls. add armor has to go through the equation, but 2% pdr is always 2% pdr, so at higher armor rating it becomes more advantageous to build %pdr since your returns wont be diminished. same thing for magic power and magic power bonus, dex/agi and action speed, phys power and physical power bonus.

[wraith wigeon]

How do I get all bis gear?

[gentle orchid]

Kill guy with full bis gear

[sterile anvil]

inferno and gold piles. gem what you need

[sonic maple]

Genius

[sterile anvil]

however its also good to keep in mind that stats like strength give you both physical power and hp, or will gives magical power but also magical damage reduction. these base stats also have a "soft cap" where they give less of a bonus at higher amounts, usually around mid to upper 30's.

[amber tulip]

Cope cope cope. Druid is timmy killer. Hi timmy

[gentle orchid]

So what if I am a timmy, huh? A barb can’t work a 9-5 in the mines and provide for his family without getting mogged by druid and what do we do? Stand by is not the answer we must RISE up and grind this game beg SDF to nerf druid, TIMMIES UNITE

[elder geode]

I think I understand the flat % you get from PDR compared to armor rating. I guess I'm just complaining that, for me, I have to try both on in the middle of the dungeon to see if +(x) armor rating gets me more PDR than the percent one I'm wearing. i wish I could just look at it and know if it's better or not without having to do some calculations or try it on and look.

[elder geode]

Unless you all can do this already and I can't

[vital scaffold]

ok but fr tho, why did they make uniques 1 singular juiced up modifier? its so goofy lmao

[wanton otter]

y'all devs should remove +all before the market drops or it'll be conform or die

[sterile anvil]

i wouldn't stress about it too much, if you can't tell just by eye balling it you're probably looking at a 1-2% difference. time and experience will help a lot, its mostly when you're building kits to be as min maxed as possible that you'll really worry about it

[vital scaffold]

says the guy with a druid profile pic, definitely an unbiased source

[sharp talon]

Bros pronouns are druid

[vital scaffold]

i didnt even notice that, thats wild

[abstract apex]

remove piles from pve mode

[left kiln]

how do i get bug shells?

[maiden badger]

I'm new and I'm having a pretty good time so far. It's all very confusing.

[crisp axle]

game is scratches the perfect itch

[maiden badger]

I do have a question though, what are all of the tabs in your Stash? There's nothing that explains how they differ?

[abstract apex]

whatever u want exceept 2 are shared

[maiden badger]

I bought a 1500 gold expansion and it's not on all characters? Is it per character?

[abstract apex]

only 2 are shared others are buyable or obtainable thru a quest.

[surreal iron]

any1 know if highest max hp roll is still 5?

[jaunty grail]

Anyone hate the buff duration nerf it's awful so awful killed my build completely and uniques it's not worth running

[maiden badger]

Which 2 are shared?

[dapper junco]

Kanye put out a tweet where he said he was sucking off his younger cousin for years starting when his cousin was 6, we got that and Oblivion remaster before Elder Scrolls 6

[maiden badger]

In my stash there are 2 tabs with a star icon, gold and silver -- are those both shared?

[abstract apex]

yeah one from legendary shared status and one from seasonal stash

[maiden badger]

They could put a description on that pretty easy I would guess. ty

So do I need to move everything out of the silver one and into the gold one before season ends?

[cosmic swan]

When the season end your whole inventory is wiped anyway.

[maiden badger]

Oh. That's pretty intense.

[abstract apex]

yeah only thing u keep is fame + cosmetics

[prime crypt]

The game needs it to stay fresh and alive (genuinely)

[maiden badger]

Yeah not complaining, just trying to understand how things work.

[cosmic swan]

Each season last for 3-4 month. Everything is reset every season (except cosmetic and fame level)

[maiden badger]

Any tips for a newbie that might not be obvious to learn?

[cosmic swan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd31J2VRKQ4&list=PLC-EX07JKv-NwmucetweVGt1g-zT3tOnK

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Beginners_Guide

And https://www.youtube.com/@ryan6daysaweek to learn monster attack pattern

[shrewd ferry]

@glad thunder fix ur shit game. I keep getting hit from 30 feet away by short ranged melee weapons. Want me to send you videos of ur game being ass and broken?? Since, you know, u don't actually play it yourself. Even on the deathcam the weapon isnt hitting me but still connects. Shit servers bc ur an imbecile who stole code.

[maiden badger]

Again, I'm new here -- so take this with a grain of salt: I don't think that's the approach you will get a good response with.

[arctic tiger]

No let them scream into the void, that’s normal here

[maiden badger]

Well, alright lol

[cosmic swan]

Don't take it seriously. Everyone is like that here... But in the end it's because the love the game and don't want to see it crash

[terse tundra]

anyone else having a bit of stuttering and lag issues right now?

[maiden badger]

Why do they have this Discord locked down so hard? I can't use emotes on posts, I can't post screenshots, etc.

[cosmic swan]

Not personnaly but i've seen people talk about that

[gentle orchid]

people

[maiden badger]

Is that an earned thing or is it just locked down?

[terse tundra]

i cant tell if its me or the game im getting 180 plus download on ookla right now

[shrewd ferry]

unfortunately the guy is a complete narcissist and will not listen to anything anyone has to say. It's all his vision...so it doesn't matter what you say he won't listen anyways. Multiple massive streamers that keep this game alive he doesn't even give the time of day. Other than Onepegg which is once it a blue moon

[uncut tundra]

Hey, one question, can i recover stuff with the goblin if i died on high roller?

[terse tundra]

not anymore

[cosmic swan]

It's just locked, otherwise it would be complete chaos

[viscid lion]

make the game great again and remove druid sourcer and warlock

[uncut tundra]

rip my luck set to a bug, nice

[terse tundra]

happens bro i lost a good kit to connection issues yesterday

[maiden badger]

I got a sub on Twitch today after I fell asleep. Been live for 45 hours now, going to try and keep it up all week for drops. This game is going to screw my sleep schedule up even more than it typically is. haha

[gentle orchid]

How get skull key

[maiden badger]

I only mention it because it's surprising. I don't get many subs. I think people appreciate the drops.

[terse tundra]

is there anyone who has had connection/stuttering issues who could help me out?

[cedar tulip]

boss kills on crypts

[gentle orchid]

ty ily sm

[tulip sphinx]

Guys quick question does the banshee drop artifacts?

[craggy kiln]

where can i see sorcerer builds help?

[warped raft]

for the love of god, fix the servers, you have our wallets, please fix them ffs

[cosmic swan]

The wiki seem to say 1 in 1000 kill

[tulip sphinx]

does that gets higher in other bosses

[cosmic swan]

Yes it's much higher on the Inferno boss. Wyvern is good too. Crypt boss are decent too

[tulip sphinx]

alr man appreciate the help

[cosmic swan]

[cosmic oak]

where is the gold ore in goblin caves?

[tulip sphinx]

you have to kill the both bosses after that there is a room you can see it its like there is a brown chamber around a white square

[cosmic swan]

Kill both boss and go to the Cave altar module, there's the door of the dual boos loot room

[cosmic oak]

ah the cave alter module, ok

[sterile anvil]

Go to the cave alter room and camp in it, hopefully someone else will kill the other bosses and you can scoop the gold quick. There's not enough time to kill both bosses anymore, they made troll too tanky

[cosmic oak]

nah, i can kill in less than 3 minutes with the strongest perks with barb and zweihander

[sterile anvil]

With an extremely efficient team and dropping both bosses in less than a minute, with higher regular interaction than most classes in the game, and no randomness it was almost always down to the wire to get the gold and get out. More than one pvp encounter usually meant no gold

[cosmic oak]

yea ill hope they kill a cyclops in most cases

[tropic sandal]

are cockatrice feathers better droprate in HR?

[quaint ember]

Wyvern dropping artifacts yet? In solos

[quaint ember]

Yes

[rigid ether]

sometimes there's no audio when someone opens a door or chest. is that happening to anyone else?

[burnt trellis]

Is there really any best class?

[cosmic swan]

Probably Druid

[azure bronze]

Warlock easily

[burnt trellis]

Where would the fighter place in a Ranking?

[tropic sandal]

S

[burnt trellis]

Thats nice I guess

[zealous badger]

quit having the game change my resolution every 5 minutes sdf

[halcyon kayak]

does goblin cave drop named artifcats

[cosmic swan]

Very low chance on troll and cyclop yes. Like 1 in 1000 kill

[dense crater]

what r the dark and light spells?

[cosmic swan]

Dark spell are Warlock's Dark bolt, ray of darkness and Eldritch shield. Light spell I believe there's only Wizard Zap, slow, haste and Light orb

[cosmic swan]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Spell_types#Light

[dense crater]

🙏 ty

[mild folio]

only u twin if ur dog water its okay

[winged herald]

fuk u iron mace fix or delete druid game sucks

[coarse portal]

Why it's one of the easier classes to kill

[rotund plinth]

Is marketplace out yet?

[stoic solar]

is there a way to give items to friends?

[compact cosmos]

anyone know how to find the bosses on goblin map? i go to the "mudules" that they "spawn" in and still cant seem to find them :/

[ionic brook]

Yo, got full version on epic games launcher, but cant run it. Is there chance to transfer acc from epic games to blacksmith/steam?

[stoic solar]

yes

[ionic brook]

how can i do this

okay i see pinned mess

okay it didn't tell how to do this XD

[scenic wren]

Can we please just remove movespeed? It's an unfun mechanic that creates impossible to win/lose fights. Or at least cap it at 100% or something. MS on everything is a terrible game decision, we've been down this route before and it sucked

[calm horizon]

if i see someone in hr and we choose to not kill each other and go our separate ways, is that considered teaming?

[amber tulip]

no

[calm horizon]

awesome

[sterile anvil]

May as well remove all classes but cleric and fighter then, if squishy classes can't outrun tanks they're just free kills

[jaunty bobcat]

ahhh but cleric and warlock can do everything fighter does but better, so by that logic we should just remove fighter too and only play as cleric

[mild folio]

u make the game unfun a barb with right build can one shot sorcceres archers and other u out here fiening for free kill jst get better the game

[compact cosmos]

anyone know where bosses sspawn on golbin map

[mild folio]

i do

search it up it shows u alot dude and then u look for the lay out on the map

[modern gull]

stupid ass game 12s left and i insta die near portal good game

[unborn vale]

how is the audio so bad cant even hear a door open 1 foot away!

[jaunty bobcat]

thats because in the last 10 seconds you start taking way more damage

[modern gull]

i was half like why

[compact cosmos]

i looked it up but all the guids say it spawns on specific spots on the map and i go there and nothing

[mossy karma]

look at the wiki if you need i can send a link showing what they look like

[scenic wren]

That's an entirely different issue. And since when were fighters slow?

[rigid ether]

Happened to me too

[compact cosmos]

that would be greaty appreciated

[muted pine]

how do i claim my rewards from twitch

[sterile anvil]

i mean how else do you balance that? fighters are quick, for a tank.

[winter moat]

yooo im new to the game

[sharp talon]

What if removing movespeed wasnt bait, just a doo doo opinion

[final crater]

quit

[simple river]

Cope

[deep osprey]

hello are the wolf fang lootable on the ice cavern wolves please?

[sterile anvil]

honestly a pretty common one for people with 50-200 hours that play tanks and get kited. gotta say, does feel bad getting walked like a dog

[simple river]

No quit

[deep osprey]

fack

[winter moat]

no

[sharp talon]

Sucks, but prolly sucks less than getting trucked/desecrated cuz your spell did no real damage to them and they move just as fast as you

[exotic acorn]

yea u go to the tavern area

[weak horizon]

ill never find this feather.

[tropic sandal]

agreed

[steel bluff]

Feather dosnt exist

[summer moat]

Take static reds out of high roller

[native veldt]

Goblin not working high roller?

[cedar ledge]

I thought if someone loots you or takes yr stuff and drops it he doesnt collect it?

I'm welcome to being corrected if im wrong ofc

[native veldt]

but my friend died and nobody looted, but the itens are not coming back

[steel bluff]

Goblin doesbt retrieve at all in highroller

[summer moat]

Goblin doesnt work on high roller on all maps

[weary cipher]

quick question if anyone knows. are trios the only available queue for adventure rn? if so do you know why? i usually solo run so this is weird lol

[meager frost]

Can someone send me a picture of the demon fly bc I need to do the woodsman quest

[sweet tapir]

please fix brazil server lag

[steel bluff]

They float at the ceiling in inferno and poo green goo

@meager frost

[carmine vigil]

Because they don't need different queues for pve, just press don't fill and you will be solo

[weary cipher]

word i gotchu. tbh i dont see the dont fill button but i appreciate u my man

[near jackal]

TEAMING IN NORMS SOLOS GOBS IS SO DUM AND NEEDS TO BE BANABLE

[steel bluff]

It's all servers. They broke the game a while ago so if you are near people you will get stuck, stutter or lag in place till you jump

[carmine vigil]

It's literally right above the big map button on the bottom left

[cedar ledge]

Specifically I believe they are in blood columns

[limpid merlin]

anyone else expressman empty?

[meager frost]

Tysm

[near jackal]

CONSIDERING U TOOK OUT 0-24S

[weary cipher]

bruh i thought it was on the map selection screen smh ty my guy

[carmine vigil]

All g

[woeful raft]

how mucg longer till market open

[steep trench]

22+hrs

[uncut tide]

Guys, can you give me an honest answer about the current state of the game? I remember that they made the shop and such unbearable whenever i left it

Is it still super bad or did the devs listen and change everything to the best?

[hexed crest]

do ppl play the pve?

[near jackal]

PLAYABLE, IF U HAV FUN THEN U HAV FUN, BUT THERE ARE ALWAYS ISSUES TO BE ADRESSED

[cosmic moon]

when will arena open

[night kite]

8 days

[ivory tulip]

Personally I never thought the game was bad, but new content wise this wipe didn't add much so if you were tired of the game before this season then you will probably still be tired after this season

[woeful raft]

thanks

[radiant basin]

Are the servers going down in 19 for the market opening?

[humble robin]

shit mad boring recently

[plush rapids]

Is the Lucky Feather from the cockatrice bugged or something? I have killed def over 50 and still nothing

[humble robin]

rare

[west tide]

anyone else having trouble finding purp gems? I've gotten like 5 legendary gems today but no purps

[solar lantern]

can you farm golden keys in normals ?

[desert drum]

wtb patch with some fixes to blocking. how you supposed to be a shield fighter, being slowest player on the map, and you die because they jump-push in behind your shield's hitbox and can somehow still hit you with a swing?

[obtuse halo]

Ill tell you for an elbow pic

[steep trench]

getguud

[desert drum]

having to 180 and block straight up to block a jumping smite cleric does not make you gud; it's fucking dumb.

[steep trench]

Would you be able to block a sword from behind your shield in real terms? Nope.

[fossil shale]

1hand maces needs nerf to their swings. It does a truckload of damage despite it swinging like a hatchet

[desert drum]

In real terms, I'd be able to grab someone's arms and they wouldn't be able to hit me. in real terms if you're behind my shield, you're not swinging. in real terms if I hit you in the head with an arming sword just one time you're dead... it shouldn't take 4-5 headshots to kill you. "real terms" is dumb

[steep trench]

Youv'e never used a curved sword!

[desert drum]

more like "i've never clipped through a shield in real life"

[radiant furnace]

Go to HR on forgotten castle and in the second and third levels the mummy’s drop them like crazy

[left kiln]

How!!! DO!!!!! i get.... BUG SHELLS

[formal gale]

kill those armored bugs n shit

[left kiln]

i got 2 today.

[left kiln]

ty

[formal gale]

from my experience, goblin caves have lots of those guys

[haughty relic]

are the servers better than earlier today?

[honest dirge]

is cockatrice egg from killing cockatrice?

[quaint plover]

Is crypts loot better than Ruins Loot? Or is it just hell thats better?

[languid hill]

crypts is slightly better in my opinion

[west tide]

with each level you go down i think the loot gets slightly better

[left kiln]

anyone have a map or guide for ruins

[undone schooner]

I just ran into a double rogue team in HR anyone know how?

[fervent anvil]

random group

[steady berry]

yo anyone knows where are the demonflies by any chances?

[undone schooner]

it sure seemed like a premade maybe they are queuing at the same time

[shrewd island]

error 42

[mossy vessel]

They're in a few tiles of Inferno

[twin mica]

is trolls club worth anything? I just got one

[languid hill]

pretty sure it can be used for a craftable

[minor compass]

Im starting to believe magic library is a myth atp. IDK how many dungeons ive loaded into where its just not on map

[fervent bronze]

Give bows movement inaccuracy. Thank you

[trail flicker]

This is one of the worst takes ive seen in here. How would this even work I wonder? There isnt really a need for or not would it be realistic

[simple river]

😛

[trail flicker]

what do you mean "know how" am imissing something? Why is it that surprising i mean

[minor compass]

I think they just meant that you cant queue as double of same class

[trail flicker]

It shouldnt be allowed or is not allowed

[languid hill]

I thought that was only in arena

[minor compass]

You cant queue premade teams with same comp. So either they just randomly matched or they are queue sniping

[trail flicker]

Oh. Why would they allow it at all if premades cannot do it. Im sure there is no reason. Seems like a fun idea though.

[tulip pine]

the game is still doo doo ,dont pay iron mace anything please

[fervent bronze]

It works by making you slightly inaccurate as your move. Intensity varies on bow-type.

If your argument is realism, archers don't shoot accurately at range when running and jumping. Weapon inaccuracy makes sense in this case.

Please list a core flaw with adding bow movement inaccuracy. Im curious to hear your thoughts.

[minor compass]

I imagine if they did it because queue times could be bad if it was also applied to random matchmaking

[carmine vigil]

It severely nerfs one class in particular, might as well just delete ranger

[pseudo void]

When is druid going to be taken out from game or actually nerfed?

[tulip pine]

When will Sdf make 1 good patch

[minor compass]

Just stack health on fighter and have 75% PDR 😄 fun and balanced

[fervent bronze]

Add in perks to offset this and give incentive to hit stand-still shots. Bows as they are are far to consistent across the board. Bow and Bower is boring as can be and loses many new players due to how simple and effective it is, but overall boring to deal with.

I play ranger too, so this isnt coming from a place of hate. It's just simply too easy

[minor compass]

I feel the bow and bower part. A lot of japan servers is just a bard and fighter not taking fights until they finally hit 2/10 crossbow shots

[carmine vigil]

So then in trios rangers will be beyond op because they will sit at the back with their increased dmg absolutely obliterating everyone

[pseudo void]

@minor compass so play another outragously unbalanced class to compete?

[minor compass]

It was sarcasm. I hate the fighter meta rn, I be hitting fighters so much thinking they are low come to find out not even half health because of 75% PDR, second wind, and 180hp

[fervent bronze]

yeah ranger will be strong at range but not as much in melee

[carmine vigil]

Wasn't your original issue with how strong they are at range though? So this solves nothing really

[shrewd ferry]

@glad thunder maybe no one told u or u just fired the guy that did...but an ability that can 1 shot kill 100% of the time when aimbot exists is a dumb fucking thing to add in ur game. 5 arrows in 3 ppls faces while watching a cheating ranger. Maybe get better anti cheat? Maybe don't be a complete imbecile and add such a ridiculous ability?

[strong compass]

TO SOLVE GOLD- on the bags let me ctrl+right click to have a fill selection

[bronze badge]

^

[fervent bronze]

No, i had an issue with the damage consistency

[pseudo void]

@minor compass might as well delete all classes but the 3 good ones and ya movespeed roll on all items def didnt get thought out

[carmine vigil]

Loses many new players to how simple and effective it is

[minor compass]

Agree movespeed is fun but should definitely be left for the squishy classes IMO and not the gigachad 180hp classes

[fervent bronze]

any person with a large amount of hours can tell you that at the higher end of game, this game turns into Bow and Bower. Reducing the consistency, not the damage, BUT the consistency of bows may lessen this feel. While giving a bit more freedom to classes (barb, casters) without adjusting stats too much.

and there could be a ranger perk to allow for the nulification of this effect.

i dont mind ranger per say, just the overall abuse of bows due to they being the answer to really anything if ur a good shot. Whichever isnt that hard if ur even okayish at FPS.

[carmine vigil]

I don't think the answer is to make the arrows less accurate if you are moving lol

[fervent bronze]

what solution do you have in mind? and what would be a fundamental flaw with my idea?

[pseudo void]

@fervent bronze are you talking trios?

[grave tangle]

are servers down???

[main lintel]

PLEASE KEEP SOLO SELF FOUND FOREVER OR MAKE IT A MODE

[fervent bronze]

yes, trios. this game is balanced with trios in mind so thats where my head is at

[minor compass]

I dont believe so no

[fervent bronze]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1081941105672724500 latest posts go over balancing

[pseudo void]

@fervent bronze One range in a trio is interchangable between ranger and wizard. Usually Wizards come out later in wipe because of gear dependency

[mossy vessel]

Do troll pelts drop in pve mode?

[pseudo void]

There is a should be a chance since its a legendary item

[fervent bronze]

ranger demolishes sorc in high gs.

[carmine vigil]

I mean I don't really have a massive issue with it. In trios every team has at least 2 range users crossbows, spells, bows whatever it may be so it's not like you are losing because you don't have range, unless you are random filling trios, and I just don't think there is enough tech in melee combat to make a change like that

[pseudo void]

@fervent bronze i agree i almost never see a sorc tbh but i def see an equal amount of wizards and rangers mid wipe

[fervent bronze]

my take is the annoyance that is bow gameplay. its just boring. youve got dope swords/shields and magic. Thats dope. But the most useful range by a large margin is a bow. pew pew pew pew pew

[kindred mantle]

When do the red gates open? is it random? It seems like it happens really early

[stray orbit]

Can you have multiples of the same class in a hr or arena team?

[fervent bronze]

no

[carmine vigil]

I know what you're saying but I just don't think sword and board is in a good enough place to try force it more either lol

[kindred mantle]

you couldn't last season but you could get randomed into a group that had 3 rangers or whatever

[carmine vigil]

Maybe they could make projectile resistance an actual stat you could build

[fervent bronze]

happy medium. which is why i go with reducing consistency rather than damage. rangers still have backstep and shotgun, bards got dex, and fights got all the fighter stuff. rather than using a bow as a second primary, make it a true secondary. with ranger being the one who uses it as a primary

[languid hill]

They open within the first min of the match so people who are looking to just go down can.

[minor compass]

I think the problem with range meta is that too many classes can abuse it

[carmine vigil]

You can't really class limit it much though either because balance

[minor compass]

True. Maybe i'm a hater but like i really dont get why fighter needs a ranged option with how most fighters are built now

[sterile anvil]

it does just need a damage nerf. longbow is air mailing longsword hits across modules with 20% armor pen, thats too much damage.

[carmine vigil]

Pdr would just get kited forever with no counter play

[carmine vigil]

In a perfect world it could work but I think they need to refine alot before they try something like that

[fresh lion]

does will boost damage done with the crystal sword?

[half sphinx]

Are there any beta testers here who enjoyed finding secret rooms?

[minor compass]

I could see that being a problem for solos

[fervent bronze]

if they did walking nerfs/buffs instead of overbuffing/nerfing we would be in such a good spot.

[desert drum]

is the second effect on fighter's shield mastery bugged?

[winter moth]

in what modules can i find demonflies?

[inner token]

Prolly a hot take but im really hyped for the next patch, mainly because im curious what will it bring :P

[haughty swift]

The fact that Druid exist is why this game will never be good

[languid hill]

Blood columns

[winter moth]

thanks

[inner token]

Can gloves of utility get regular interaction speed as the substat or no, because its the main stat?

[carmine vigil]

No

[inner token]

Sadge, i wanted to get them unique with that substat :P

[sweet goblet]

I'm not sure if I understand action speed correctly. I get that it determines how fast you reload a bow or swap weapons. What about swinging a weapon? Does it influence it as well?

[carmine vigil]

Get it on unique rawhides

[slender summit]

Anyone else been crashing frequently lately?

[inner token]

What's the main stat on those?

[carmine vigil]

Knowledge/resourcefulness

[maiden bear]

can anyone confirm if troll pelt drops in Adventure mode

[inner token]

Eww no, i want pure resourcefulness (my sorc is at 137-ish with a purple lyre.... I wish i didn't die with the legendary pickaxe tho, because that got me to 141)

[maiden bear]

yess youll swing faster too

[olive light]

I haven’t played for a while, do you lose gear in arena?

[simple peak]

this game isnt cross platform right ?

[maiden bear]

only if it isnt crafted or found by you

[maiden bear]

nooo

[supple knoll]

You CAN group between steam and blacksmith

[indigo spear]

are yall getting lag spikes incountering players

[maiden bear]

yesss

[maiden bear]

im not no

[simple peak]

ty guys

[minor compass]

ah yes. Love loading into adventurer mode and all the PvE to be dead already. Very nice continuous dungeon

[eager mulch]

Pull out the recurve brother

[carmine vigil]

If a fighter had no ranged options? How they gonna pull a recurve out

[cedar ledge]

Why are you queuing with no ranged options

[prime flume]

How much more time on market

Haven’t checked need to know

[cedar ledge]

Well yesterday it was like 1 day and 13hrs around 12pm EST I think iirc

[abstract apex]

hitscan is actually insane.

[cedar ledge]

Pavise gaming 💪

[thin sleet]

Haven't played in a while, is swarm still in the game?

[gentle swan]

The beetle swarm in the crypts?

[thin sleet]

I mean like the circle

[carmine vigil]

yall really need to learn how to read lol

[eager mulch]

A fighter should always have ranged options, crossbow if no weapon mastery, bow if weapon mastery

[carmine vigil]

read the convo i was actually having before including yourself please

[gentle swan]

Might still be a circle in High Roller. Normal matches it's just a timer that eventually begins doing DOT to everyone still on the map. Think at 3 minutes and then amps up at 1 minute.

[eager mulch]

If for some reason u have no ranged options, thats a you problem my friend, regardless of what was said before i inserted myself.

[uncut raptor]

Does duel wield perk for fighter work with lantern shields??

[carmine vigil]

theres no helping some i guess

[small dome]

where do you craft the item to summon HR lich???

[eager mulch]

Its okay if you are bad at the game 😦 we still love you

[carmine vigil]

idk if your brain is advanced enough to feel emotion tbf

[gentle swan]

Where would I go to have a higher chance of finding epic rarity gems? Still stuck on the Goldsmith quest at 0% progress because I haven't found a single one in days. Running dungeons at 155-250+ luck and ain't getting lucky.

[fading aurora]

i played the game when it came out for beta (i think it was) over christmas and havent played since that. I'm getting back into the game but am not too good or know the new stuff

[halcyon void]

does dragon still drop artifacts

[gentle swan]

If you want someone to run PvE dungeons with to get back into the groove, lemme know.

[carmine vigil]

hr loot pile and skeleton corpses

[fading aurora]

id be down, ive been playing a few games of it but havent played with anyone yet

[gentle swan]

Loot pile as in the large golden hoards in certian boss sub-boss and boss rooms?