game-discussion

[cyan fox]

congratz 😄

[hardy stump]

druid, barb, melee cleric

[cyan fox]

Strongly disagree on barb and melee cleric. Most of the classes can just kite you easily. Yeap you're strong in melee, considering you manage to get into melee.

[hardy stump]

that means not that these classes are bad, but you are bad at spacing

[drifting fossil]

i played hr 0-225 with epic quarterstaff barb and 1 shot headshot the entire lobby its broken

[cyan fox]

Spacing against classes that have ranged option ??

[hardy stump]

if a ranger, warlock or wizard is in that GC module with 3 levels and cells, walking into it is a bad idea, go back to tight space, bait them in or move on, thing about solos is game is imbalanced and will forever remain imbalanced there, you need to know and pick your engagements, because builds hardcountering one another is a thing there

[limber jolt]

IM promotes boring and simple gameplay that's why it will die

[hardy stump]

counter point:
Majority of people are bad at pvp in this game.

Problem is, IM gave a place for PvE and these bads, IM gave a place for the hardcore gigachad sweats, but middle of that bell curve have nowhere to go now

[limber jolt]

This type of game should reward personal skill and instead only rewards equipment and counter picks.

[cerulean crypt]

The problem with class balance discussions is DaD isn't just one game it's like 20 games stuffed together.

[terse sable]

Thats deep

[hardy stump]

there was a patch, where it was all about skill, giga sweats didn't liked it and now we're doubling down on glorified fortnite

[cerulean crypt]

One class might be broken in 225+ Duos and crap in Arena and mid in 0-124 Solos

[terse sable]

Dont tell me you're a patch 69 enjoyer

[cyan fox]

I'm not even talking about wizards or warlocks because you barely see any in solos. But baiting melee cleric cds is so easy that unless you play against timmies it's not that easy. You run most of the time into classes that have more movespeed than you.

[hardy stump]

I liked the idea, execution had a lot to be desired, but you can't deny the fact that fights were actually balanced

[cerulean crypt]

Melee Cleric is just landmine Rogue ngl

[terse sable]

It was the worst patch i've ever seen in any video game ever

And no fights were not balanced cause they made barbarian super fucking broken in the same patch

[hardy stump]

I feel sorry for how few games you've played, I've seen much worse over my 30 years of gaming

[cerulean crypt]

But yeah no balance discussions in this game are pointless. Druid is the most complained about class in the game (because it's cracked in solo the most popular queue) and it has the 2nd worst Arena performance.

[vocal igloo]

guys how do i fight the nightmare cockatrice

[inner marsh]

If you are good at Mordhau pick fighter and do the funny

Thank me later patchists

[vocal igloo]

i am a rogue

[hardy stump]

and since balance is made specifically for HR trios and arena, druid will keep getting buffs, while shitting on everyone in solos

[cerulean crypt]

If you were good at Mordhau you'd be insulted by this statement

[inner marsh]

That's the point

[cerulean crypt]

Luckily I was only mid at Mordhau 😎

[inner marsh]

Some rangers are getting cracked enough to snipe the rat on a flick

IM will buff druid again

[north anchor]

I'd the one role uniques something they put in on purpose or s bug? I'm assuming a bug but ya never know

[terse sable]

I'm not gonna lie , whenever i know someone liked patch 69, to me that signals that i should no longer take anything they say serious because they just have some screws loose

[cyan fox]

[cerulean crypt]

They did nerf LBA which was imo the strongest Druid tool for Arena/HR Trio

If they buff Druid I'd guess it'd be to revert the nerf to LBA or rework LBA to be worse than it was pre-nerf but better than it is currently.

[hardy stump]

on the other side of that spectrum is this:

If you complain about balance, and think difference of 50-60 stat points between two players is fine, you don't care about balance at all

[rich scroll]

is it possible to drop chest from pile on pve

[drifting fossil]

no

[vocal igloo]

1/1000, yes

[north anchor]

Chest is unique so no

[flat granite]

This may be a weird take but i think the game would be more enjoyable if the difficulty / damage of PvE and PvP was swapped. Right now it feels like PvP has fast ttk but you can take quite a few hits from PvE. If this were reversed, PvE would be more of a legitimate threat and PvP could be made more balanced since we wouldnt be 2-3 shotting each other all the time.

Just putting this thought out into the void 😅

[hardy stump]

no unique drops from pve

[cerulean crypt]

By this logic gold coins couldn't drop either

[cyan fox]

Nah it's only in HR

[cerulean crypt]

But unless they changed it Gold Chest can only drop from HR pile

[vocal igloo]

they changed it

[rich scroll]

i saw a guy dropped it on crypts pve

[cerulean crypt]

Damn that's wild if true

[worldly warren]

why are u asking if its possible if u saw a guy do it

[rich scroll]

just making sure it was reddit post xD

[inner marsh]

PvE is extremely wonky atm

[cerulean crypt]

My main issue with this is it assumes 'balance' has anything to do with the number of hits required to kill each other. I don't see the logic behind that. Balance is just the relative strength between classes.

[rich scroll]

love farming bosses with 0 risk

[inner marsh]

I mean back during pt2 when barb francisca 1 shot was a thinf, everyone was balanced technically, because all classes had access to a 1 shot

Franciasca barb, rogue damage stackin, ranger trishot, Mika Vista funny cleric

Let's go back

[misty quail]

i pulled a chest from adventure mode spectral knight pile, i was wondering if anyones pulled from any of the other piles. i have a theory that its specifically that one thats dropping them but idk

[vocal igloo]

all maps same pile rn

[cerulean timber]

ice pelts wouldnt be so bad if they randomized ice caves and abyss like every single other map in the game

[cerulean crypt]

Balance isn't the only factor in the game. If everyone could one-shot each other the game might be balanced but it wouldn't be fun. If someone wants to argue it'd be more fun to reduce the damage that's probably an easier case to make.

[inner marsh]

Exactly

[flat granite]

true. i guess what im really talking about is the general capacity counter play. I feel like many PvP encounters are over as soon as they begin bc whichever team gets the jump on the other just demolishes them in under 5 seconds.

Not to say there is no counter play in the game, but it sucks that one main form of counter play is running and shutting doors...

[lunar flax]

love it when u kill a druid and there body literally just despawns

game is so fuxking bad sdf u need some glasses this vision is ass

[cerulean crypt]

One of the issues with using lower damage as a way to add counterplay is you get into health leads that you can't do much from anyway. So like if a Rogue ambushes you and kills you, there's no opportunity for a counterplay you're just dead before you can do anything. So let's say we universally reduce damage by 50%. Now you aren't dead you're at half health after the ambush and you can attack back. But your damage is also at 50% so it's going to take you quite a while to kill the Rogue at all and the health lead is so great the Rogue can win just by trading into you.

[grand swallow]

Prego go o

[inner marsh]

Lower damage also buffs healing a lot, so we'd go back to healbot clerics or make healing less impactful

[urban owl]

Does anyone know what the fourth quest for cockatrice is

[grand swallow]

Prego goblin 👺

[cerulean crypt]

Could potentially half healing effectiveness to keep this in line but then healing would become a chore.

[flat granite]

Yeah, thats true. Im not saying every other element of the game would remain the same. but just as a general concept, i think the game would feel better with slower PvP ttk. the game would need to be adjusted around it.
Also, in that scenerio, i would FEEL better even if the outcome is the same bc i actually got a chance to interact with that rogue instead of them just appearing and me dying lol

[grand swallow]

Goblin queen

[cerulean crypt]

Yeah it may feel better for sure. Low TTK can feel pretty bad when you spend 20 minutes in trade to gear up and then 10 minutes looting a dungeon just to get stabbed 3 times by an invisible Rogue and die.

[turbid temple]

is there discord channel to report treaming i have clip?

[grand swallow]

Is bamshee worth running?

Banshee is hard where prego gobo

[hardy stump]

kind of explains all the demigod rogues on frost mountain mid

[tame oxide]

Didn't you already reply to my post telling the odds of a drop

[hardy stump]

pretty sure I didn't, because I never give specific numbers unless directly asked

[native rain]

So when are they going to add The Nameless Knight as a class in this game?

Pros

• Highly effective with two handed weapons, +20% action speed and no movement penalty when equipped
• Night vision (does not need torch or lamp)
• Cannot die

Cons

• Players will get angry

[tame oxide]

#game-discussion message
Memory issue

[hardy stump]

my man, you've just described BIS fighter

[tidal dagger]

So can gold chest spawn in PvE gold piles?

[tame oxide]

Yes. All piles. All floors. All modes.

Me saying it is already proof. Never wrong

[tidal dagger]

Thanks. Does your whole inventory need to be empty or can you get a chest eith half an inventory?

[minor marsh]

if i bought game on blacksmith and never moved account over how do i do it now

[wanton tartan]

even though pve shows it only has up to epic loot you can still get chest? What is point of running HR if same loot is in EZ mode

[weary grotto]

Has any one dropped a Mimic tongue yet ?

[tame oxide]

The type of dude that needs to go to space himself so he believes that the earth is round smh

[wanton tartan]

best bet is to go ruins go down to crypts and find mimic lair

[tame oxide]

Keep your inventory empty so you don't get fucked by a chest, halberd and a pavise all dropping at once etc

[weary grotto]

Cheers both of ya , found the Minics lair about 3 times killed at least 50 mimics so far . Doing my head in now

[ocean gale]

I would love a Cockatrice feather, but its never going to happen

[tame oxide]

1/14 in HR. Go get it

[weary grotto]

hahaha swings and round about I suppose . I got he feather 1st kill

[mighty wigeon]

About "ErrorCode - Auth 16, Please check your Link-State in the game and then try to link again from the game if necessary."

I'm playing on BlackSmith launcher, what helps to me:

1. go to twich settings/connection, unlink DnD and Steam (press disconnect)
2. previously l played in steam account, so l install steam version, create character and make sure twich link button in not in "link status", than push it and choose "CANCEL"
3. then I closed steam version and go in BlackSmith launcher, in game settings push "link" button then "cancel" then again "link"
4. link with twich login i from browser I copied and paste in new incognito window, then log in, and I got success response.
   Sounds like shit, but it worked to me, more likely it's because some request stuck in game database

[cunning thicket]

did they make quests account wide?

[hasty valley]

Make SSF permanent

[winter stag]

Can they technically restore a player's deleted shared stash items?

[azure socket]

what do you need for the quest after the feather from the nest?

[spare glen]

Pleease

[inner token]

What's the name of the quest? :P

[azure socket]

no idea im still in the one before , filling the nest

[inner token]

Dude, you can literally read the name of every quest, if its "acquiring an egg", you know what it wants :P

[ember wyvern]

how fix game crushes when you go deep to dungeon???

[azure socket]

i mean the quest after it

[mighty burrow]

Love how the cockatrice has 2 quest items with like a 1% drop rate and they only spawn between 0-2 per match. A+ game design they really thought that though

[sleek tiger]

I got all my cockatrice items pretty quick, those extra thick pelts took forever though

[mighty burrow]

grats you got extreamly lucky. Ive killed 300+ cockatrice and have never even seen a feather or egg

[fallow furnace]

does blacksmith still work?

[inner token]

Like the quest after "acquiring an egg"?

[tame oxide]

1/14 drop rate after fix. Go get it

[azure socket]

how do you know droprate if wiki is not up to date?

[fierce knoll]

is anyone dealing with getting pulled back when you walk making it very hard to fight anything, it happens every 20 seconds or so, my internet is very fast and it has only happened with this game and i have been playing for a while, its new for me

[tame oxide]

Because the wiki guys get their info from "somewhere" and it's out there before some voluntarily spends their free time to update the wiki

[sterile wraith]

there were times when barbarian was absurdly strong but the game was still playable
On the other hand when rouge is one of the strongest classes the game becomes very unfun

[gloomy owl]

If you think rogue is one of the strongest it’s actually just a skill issue

[inner token]

watch out, there's gonna come a dude saying " 🤓 I hAvE 400 hOuRs AnD i NeVeR eXpErIeNcEd RuBbErBaNdInG" :3

[fierce knoll]

ikr

[sterile wraith]

landmining is one of the most unfun ways to die in this game and its precisely bcs there is no way to counter it with skill

[fierce knoll]

i have tried everything i could think to do and nothing has worked for me

nope

i even tried a vpn and that didnt fix it

[gloomy owl]

Just be more aware, the only class rogue can kill consistently with a landmine is archer anyway, I play ginger and just destroy rogues that try to landmine

[hard rock]

THIS GAME IS ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[fallow furnace]

do you have problem with the website too?

[fierce knoll]

nope

[fallow furnace]

with what problem do you have then

[fierce knoll]

never had issues until a week ago or so

[tame oxide]

Are you on Fullscreen, windowed or borderless windowed? I'd switch to standard Fullscreen resolution. It kinda sounds like windows might have trouble figuring out which window it should focus on

[rich scroll]

anyone experiencing big lags when people are nearby?

[sterile wraith]

be more aware of what, the dude does not move therefore does not make any sounds? is also not visible bcs of invisibility (duh) what should I be more aware of?

[tame oxide]

Disable steam, discord, gamebar and whatever overlays you might have as well

[rich scroll]

yeah fps are stable but you just get laggy

[azure socket]

so where are the droprates if i mind ask?

[fierce knoll]

i have tried all screen modes and none do anything new all have the same problem, i have also tried windows compatibility mode, dx11, dx 12, turning off fullscreen optimization and running game in admin,changin all ingame settings around and nothing has worked

[urban owl]

Has anyone finished cockatrice's third quest

[tame oxide]

In game files and getting shared on the wiki discord

[inner token]

one thing i noticed it that it rubberbands heavily whenever i alttab from and to it, im assuming you aren't doing that?

[azure socket]

well they havent gotten the droprates , thats why i ask.

[fierce knoll]

no i made sure to never alt tab at all when testing

[tame oxide]

They have

[gloomy owl]

Areas that are already cleared ?

[inner token]

another rubbebanding issue, that got me killed a lot, was when i was playing with someone, like the discord on my second monitor could have been the culprit or smth

[fierce knoll]

ill try playing the game with all apps turned off and one monitor

[sterile wraith]

I went to loot the guy I killed though. Should I then not have looted my kill and just assume that a rouge might be nearby for some reason and just not take the loot?

[inner token]

lmk how it turns out ^^

[hard rock]

Do you still play dark souls 2

[gloomy owl]

If you’re looting the guy you killed the rogue must’ve made footsteps to get to you? No different to any other class at that point lmao only difference is you can fight back if a pdr fighter is after you you’re just dead

Druid and fighter are the best classes in the game and it’s not even close

[sterile wraith]

I killed a dude, went away to heal and nothing else, on my way back to open my kill a rouge landmined me, no sounds made by him

[gloomy owl]

Keep the body in your sights? Like the counter to rogue is simply not being stupid

[sterile wraith]

how do I counter rouge by being smarter then? Aside from not leaving the dude I killed out of my sight (not sure how that is a counterplay to an invisible and mute assassin but ok)

[fierce knoll]

didnt work

[severe quest]

Gentlemen, I need help I killed about 50 pieces of Cockatrice, did not earn a single feather, can someone help with what chance do they fall?

[gloomy owl]

Anyone can drink an invis pot? Rogue literally doesn’t win a single 1v1 against any class in this game unless they get like 2+ hits before you do anything. Just use common sense that they can be there and you can’t die to rogues

[inner token]

unfortunate, well, you tried :3

[tame oxide]

1/14 in HR

[fierce knoll]

true

[severe quest]

Thank you!!!

[tame oxide]

This is after yesterday's fix. No idea about the% prior to that

[sterile wraith]

its not the same, drinking invis pot at least makes a sound (although I agree that invis pots are also a problem) A rouge can sit in one spot for ages waiting for someone to pass by and invis right before so taht they can stab you from behind. And since going invis on rouge makes no sound its better than invis pot

[cold acorn]

wait, you can meet Trio's in solo queue?!

[twilit latch]

stop moaning about rogues they're fine

[gloomy owl]

Invis pots last longer and you’re still just ignoring the point that even if the rogues there they can get a completely jump on you and if you just press left click you will still win the fight rogue is genuinely a trash class rn compared to things like Druid and fighter

[subtle heart]

Are there any ice giant spiders in the 1st floor of ice caverns?

[worldly warren]

if you think rogue is a trash class right now you must be the worst rogue on the planet or play squire lobbies or something lmao, rogue is insanely good in solo right now what

[steady sparrow]

Haven’t even finished the first one!

[gloomy owl]

I play fighter…

[frank bronze]

Northwest corner are 3 Spiders

[subtle heart]

Thanks

[worldly warren]

idk ur telling a guy to just ''not be stupid'' and he wont die to a rogue ever and that rogues dont beat anyone 1v1. ??? u cant be serious surely

[gloomy owl]

Rogues don’t beat any class in a 1v1? Especially not with the new move speed changes

[sterile wraith]

ok I am starting to see the point as well, this Arsenic person's advice to be smarter and use common sense to beat rouge wont actually help me against getting landmined. I will try and think of something else

[slate rampart]

can u finally transfer iron mace account into steam account ?

[gloomy owl]

Just a skill issue if you’re getting hit 10 times before you hit them 3 times

[worldly warren]

thats weird cus i main rogue and beat people 1v1 all the time? if anything rogue hard counters certain classes with doublejump double handcross bow build. saying rogue doesnt beat anyone 1v1 is just a super weird take and absolutely not true whatsoever

[gloomy owl]

You beat players 1v1 because you’re better than them that’s the way the game works bud doesn’t mean the class actually wins the 1v1

[worldly warren]

rogues need 10 hits to kill someone??? LMAO what

[pallid river]

Where is 200+ gs nightmare pve mode

[gloomy owl]

Crazy that people are complaining about rogues when I’m out here playing pdr fighter with 106% ms and 60% pdr one shotting people and Druid exists lol

[worldly warren]

that guy was just asking what the counter is and ur saying rogue doesnt beat anyone and that hes stupid tho ???

[pallid river]

That's too spooky.they should add a more challenging pve mode. It would be good for more experienced players.

[gloomy owl]

Yeah fighter is probs better than Druid but Druid is still insanely strong

[sterile wraith]

My main problem here was not taht one class is stronger than the other. My problem, personally, is that getiing killed via landmining is just very unfun. Id like to avoid it

[gloomy owl]

If you’re just aware of your surroundings like when somethings already cleared or leaving a body completely unattended going into the next room for some reason xD then you can’t really die to rogues unless they’re better than you or in a 3x better kit

[cold acorn]

how do i report a hacker?

[peak sparrow]

That’s why solos sucks

[fervent anvil]

you press r in game

[urban pike]

chat why do my new character got replaced with my old one in season pack bundle?

[gloomy owl]

But you enjoy being 2 shot by pdr figher that’s faster than you? You enjoy an4 hour long fight vs a Druid that heals faster than you and also 1 shots and can just fly away? You enjoy fighting clerics with smite and 30% pdr for free?

[urban pike]

like it says my rogue is going to be gone in 72 days

[cold acorn]

thank you

[thorny parrot]

druid has ruined this game

[sterile wraith]

ofc not, but compard to landmines its not that bad

[thorny parrot]

go eat your beans on toast and go brush those teethers of yours

[gloomy owl]

I disagree, you can counter landmines with game knowledge and awareness not to mention even if you do get land mines because you’re unaware still a good chance you win the fight but the class is just not that good. You can’t counter clssses that do more damage, tankier and faster than you

[sterile wraith]

At least it feels like I can space better or dodge some attacks or something. With a landmine the fight is over in an instant. Feels bad

[gloomy owl]

Spacing is the easiest vs a rogue no? The dagger has the shortest range

[sterile wraith]

could have a milimiter range for all it matters when he appears on top of ur back

[worldly warren]

this is such a black and white take on the game thats just so untrue. ur making it sound like anyone whos aware there could be a rogue just NEVER dies to it. first of all not everyone is a 60% pdr fighter, if ur any squishy class u 100% die to landmine rogue with no chance to win unless u heavily outgear them. Ive killed classes in 3 stabs that even pre blue pot the room. So just untrue? u could in theory never walk into any cleared room ever, but literally nobody plays the game like this

[gloomy owl]

What class do you play

[distant flare]

but the rogue has 315+ms

[gloomy owl]

Every class can now with the new changes bud

[void hound]

yea i mean every class can atp so eh

[sterile wraith]

caster warlock, and if your brilliant suggestion is to use Phantomize then his cutthroat made me unable to pahtomize.
if your advice is scan surroundings with hydra then hydra is not playable unless you have magical healing and thats hard to get without market

[cinder dust]

This is certainly one of the discussions of all time

[gloomy owl]

You don’t like hydra ?

[distant flare]

every class can doesn’t mean you are. we’re in ssf can’t always take ms when you need other rolls

[gloomy owl]

Phantomise is a rubbish counter to rogue it does nothing vs rogue but hydra is incredibly strong

[fervent anvil]

every class still can

[fervent anvil]

how about using neither of them and bonking the rogue with boc stock

[distant flare]

generally rogues play with more move speed it’s how the class is designed but i guess my answer was completely wrong when tho it was completely relevant to what was asked

[gloomy owl]

Yeah works a treat, you’ll just 1 shot them

[worldly warren]

this aswell, just cus you are building movespeed on everything doesnt mean this is the game experience for everyone specially with ssf, 99% of the people do not nearly have as much move speed as me in any bracket. almost ALL rogues build lightfoots. most people definitely dont just stack movespeed on everything so whats the point of even saying this?

[gloomy owl]

That’s the issue bro, the class is designed to have more move speed but rogue needs to priorities so many stats whereas fighter doesn’t so fighter can easily build more ms

[fervent anvil]

cleric is the fastest class tho?

[lunar flax]

is GK still bugged?

[kind ore]

NERF THE DAMN FIGHTER ever arena match is whoever has more/better fighters wins unconditionally it's stupid at this point

[void hound]

there is no bug, the dmg is intended

[gloomy owl]

Agreed

[fervent anvil]

"every arena match is whoever has the better players"

[distant flare]

i pkay wizard. if i take ms over 4 other stats i’m trolling. i think my answer that rogue has more ms typically which is how they space with short weapon is valid

[lunar flax]

umm it takes 80% health with one scream?...

[worldly warren]

literally this, and not everyone has a full movespeed set lying around, stacking movespeed over other rolsl also makes you weaker into other fights 100%

[void hound]

yea its apparently intended dk why

[kind ore]

nonfighters are also players of this videogame and have right! #nonfighterlivesmatter

[fervent anvil]

have you tried building magic resist and hp?

[gloomy owl]

I agree wizard is not easy to build ms on and I do think wizard is one of the few classes rogue is good into unless they use light orb like 90% of wizards do but if you’re talking about spacing wtf you doing next to a rogue on wizard

[median anvil]

Okay sooo...they want the game to be "hardcore" and then they add pve mode...So now I can just do all of my quests with no trouble at all, and that's "hardcore"? Tbh the pve mode feels pointless, I don't even think it's a good way for new players to learn and it certainly doesnt make the game "hardcore." The fun of the game before patch 79 was going into non-random purposfully built maps with an intention the boss, pvp, learn the map, and/or gather items for quests and hope you survive, that includes possible pvp. Between the pve mode and random pointless maps there is no feeling of an objective/purpose to the game. The whole point before was surviving and hopefully getting out with what you needed. PvE mode negates all of that...Help me understand.

[worldly warren]

just dont walk into the rogue as wizard 4head its easy

[fervent anvil]

nah. walk into the rogue and bonk him

[distant flare]

bonk or mm and pray

[gloomy owl]

Bonk wiz is so good into rogue, slows down action speed and 2 hits and rogues

[fervent anvil]

wizard is easy to build ms on?

[distant flare]

wizard disarm spell when ?

[fervent anvil]

bonk wiz is the best way to play wiz

[distant flare]

too bad bonk is kinda boring i want to cast spells not melee

[cinder dust]

When your in a crack smoking challenge and Ur opponent is dad chat(difficulty impossible)

[gloomy owl]

Then use light orbs

[median anvil]

But I can just do all my questing and farming items for money in pve mode...

[distant flare]

i usually just die when rogue it’s whatever. way she goes

can’t light orb every room then campfire every room bc there is 4 corners so 4 orbs

[gloomy owl]

Fair enough but bit of a skill issue, fighter and Druid are the real issue

[distant flare]

its just too tedious of game play for me i’d rather just get cucked

[distant flare]

fighter ? he’s the easiest to kill. druid yes that is gg back to lobby

[gloomy owl]

Well you do play it’s max counter every other class bar maybe warlock it’s gg for the other

[fervent anvil]

whats wrong with fighter?

[median anvil]

To me the whole game pre patch 79 was fun because I had to go in and survive the dungeon and pvp and get out with what I needed. And again, how does pve mode contribute to SDF's vision of a hardcore game?

[void hound]

i mean wizard just has been fucked over and over especially with sorc having no spell charges and can have insta cast if they want

[void hound]

they want HR to be the "Hardcore experience"

[hard rock]

Is this game still ass?

[cinder dust]

I love wizard but if u get silenced by panther of cutthroat Ur chalked XD

[distant flare]

why do you think other people playing pve is bad for your fun? nothing in your message can’t be done it’s exactly the same brodie. in facts it’s better bc it’s 0-124

[noble furnace]

Sorry but has the 2nd wave of Drops been canceled? Can't find them any more in my Twitch account though I completed them xD

[median anvil]

Does anyone actually feel that way about it so far. Honest question.

[cinder dust]

SDF xd

[void hound]

maybe a couple people but idk wtf they think their cookin

[cinder dust]

i dont think anyone else does XD

[distant flare]

pve mode is a major w for the game. game needs to survive for yall to play

[obtuse mason]

whats the next class? and when will it come

[median anvil]

I see. I don't really get what they're doing. I feel like they're just throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks.

[noble furnace]

Agree. We've been losing SO MUCH players those last months.

[void hound]

Monk, ETA idfk

[distant flare]

a lot of people play pve games they are huge genre. i don’t think we have the depth to match a lot of those games but incrementally getting closer

the new mobs are way better and more complex

[regal light]

anyone know what the squire quests give?

[median anvil]

maybe they should just give up on Hr mode lol. Massive hate incoming 3,2,1.

yeah, maybe he should just let it go

it might be better for the game tbh

Not doom. It might be good for the game, for real.

[grand swallow]

Prego goblin

[distant flare]

he’s acting like adding a game mode is the same as removing a game mode

[median anvil]

All of these really erratic and drastic swings and changes they keep making is all because SDF says he wants the game to be hardcore. If they just got rid of hardcore and have pre patch 79 game modes that would then be the entire game and then it would be hardcore.

[grand swallow]

Yo

[distant flare]

the game being hardcore and HR being hardcore is different

[grand swallow]

Yo game is good

[distant flare]

his complaints were that hr was too easy with gobbo recovery and free dps checks on bosses

[median anvil]

I just explained why. He's holding out the for some reason Hr at some point will be hardcore. Just get rid of it now the normal mode are the standard of whats "hardcore." Also, don't take this so personally. Holy shit. This isn't a personal attack on you or your game.

[jovial marten]

OH MY GOD COCKATRICE MERCHANT IS SO CUTE!!

[distant flare]

arguing with a timmy makes you the tardo

[bleak mural]

No YOURE cute

[jovial marten]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Cockatrice_Merchant LOOK AT THIS CUTE BABE!!

[median anvil]

Not dooming little guy. I've stated my reasons.

[distant flare]

normal mode was never hardcore players were just bad

[median anvil]

You're cute.

[distant flare]

and i’m right

[median anvil]

Wow you two really depend on this game

[distant flare]

no i depend on being right

[solemn dagger]

uhh I just randomly lost 2k gold?

[median anvil]

I see that

[jovial marten]

I think I'm a stupid. I saw an empty nest of Cockatris merchants and I thought, "Oh, is it an avant-garde monster with a Gothic horror vibe?"

so cute, babe cocka is so cute. well done Iron mace. great job. its amazing.

[cerulean crypt]

The word 'harcore' is so cringe

If it means anything at all it just means you lose your stuff when you die.

[fervent anvil]

its mine now

[distant flare]

kinda valid which is why gobbo recovery was removed from hr

[inner ingot]

was probably because you have ttv in your name

[jovial marten]

look at this cute babe cocka. its my new profile. so cute

[severe ridge]

i just got a coin chest from normal goblin cave pile, wtf? how is that possible

[distant flare]

no way

[cedar rapids]

you can pull chest in any mode from any pile atm

[inner token]

i don't believe you guys :P

[distant flare]

bet they patch it the moment i leave work today

[cedar rapids]

I can dm you a screenshot

[distant flare]

5pm est all it’s getting patched

[inner token]

show me

[north yarrow]

So do you guys think the Markets will be destroyed by inflation with how easy gold is to farm in PvE, or will it be dirt cheap because of how many greens and blues/purples you can farm in PvE?

[distant flare]

played a pve last night seemed like the loot get nerfed even more. getting white and gray in inferno

[cerulean crypt]

Lots of gold doesn't tend to drive inflation all that much. Normal lobbies when they had blues opening in the first 2 minutes were already basically guaranteed exits if you wanted to grab stuff and leave.

[jovial marten]

both. over purple, its extremly expensive. under purple, extreamly cheap.

[stray obsidian]

can spectral knight in hr drop an artefact ?

[cerulean crypt]

Or I should say inflation has already been about as bad as it's possible for it to be. Main thing that might restrain inflation this time around is we don't know how much gold Religion will demand.

[inland relic]

What’s the meta class and build right now ?

[uneven igloo]

does the rarity of quest items (such as the cockatrice egg) drop in adventure mode or is it the same?

[cerulean crypt]

People may want to hold on to their gold to save it for when Religion opens instead of exchanging it into Golden Keys and Gems.

[royal prism]

Whats the ratio between knowledge and mem cap?

[distant flare]

1:1 mostly

[jovial marten]

i don't like religion work for gold sink. its weird...

[cerulean crypt]

Game needs some kind of gold sink ultimately. Otherwise you get out of control inflation.

[jovial marten]

i undertand but i don't like it work by name of god. religion has more potential.

[distant flare]

hoping for more complex religion system with guild release

[cerulean crypt]

Other than religion the only gold sinks are Merchants and generally they don't demand much gold.

I think Religion could be expanded to be more interesting but it serves as a nice infinite gold sink.

Which the economy does need to keep gold inflation under control.

[slate rampart]

when is the next wipe ?

[jovial marten]

you know, dark and darker need a god like Bane, Bhaal, Myrkul. you know, the scenario. I think they should add a visual block to Cleric's locust, and add the god of swarm to the scenario.

[cerulean crypt]

Around July 10th

[distant flare]

nah august 10th

[cerulean crypt]

They did use July 10th as their estimated end of the season date for the seasonal DLC. But you're right it could be later.

[edgy tangle]

does old tomb even exist anymore i have completely uncleared the map 4 times and still havent found it

[cerulean crypt]

It definitely exists. Just doesn't always spawn.

[distant flare]

ah that’s when it stops being sold. maybe then yeah. i could see shorter than last wipe so they can drop water map and guild maybe

[winter oak]

Anyone know what kind of accessories the squire needs for The Squire's Failure quest? I have blue pendants and rings as well as the regular loot necklaces, but he wont take them. It just says "Rare Accessories"

[cerulean crypt]

Logically yeah that's what would have to happen

[distant flare]

when you spawn in crypts press L if the quest doesn’t show then it didn’t spawn

[winter oak]

It says Looted. I found all of them

[worldly warren]

are they handled perhaps? maybe its looted ones only

[winter oak]

Oh I just checked, they DO say handled

[cerulean crypt]

I mean, everything gets wiped at the end of the season anyway. So only difference between losing the character completely and keeping them is the name.

[smoky tendon]

Y’all see their Twitter post about the next dlc coming out
It’s $20 and you get an extra base 10 all attributes

[winter oak]

whats the difference? How do I get looted ones?

[vivid heron]

what happend to the game? i hit thru monsters like 9/10 i get flying across rooms by monsters like 5-10 players distances.

monsters fall thru ground when dead to unreachable tiles and alot more

[cerulean crypt]

Gotta loot them

[smoky tendon]

I’ve only had 1 mob fall through the floor probably killed over 500 this wipe

[cerulean crypt]

Ah fair enough. I don't really think about Fame at all so that downside didn't occur to me.

[winter oak]

Oh gotcha. Okay thank you!

[thin viper]

-_-

[vivid heron]

I must be very very unlucky then, i get things like this happening every now and then, the monsters fall thru not that much but the hit/rubber banding issue is a big one and the flying thru the rooms alot, its like the monsters push or throw me around. hmpf

3080 ti all settings on medium, should not be a problem right?

I understand what you getting at, i was more thinking about data package delivery in sync or smth in that area but hey who knows ^^

[jovial marten]

lmao. cockatrice merchant, give gem every day. and it is game design trap for user play game everyday. nice trap Iron mace. i see it but i like it. your art designer is so talented.

[inland relic]

What’s the meta class this season?

[lilac tendon]

is this map for goblin cave up to date? i got it from the wiki but it always feels like its wrong https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/GoblinCave-5x5-01-N

[spare birch]

goblin cave is rando gen now

[summer junco]

every room is randomised

[lilac tendon]

dangit, is there any map that isnt?

[blissful violet]

Ice caverns!

[summer junco]

he was talking about GC

[uneven igloo]

does the rarity of quest items (such as the cockatrice egg) drop in adventure mode or is it the same?

[spare birch]

found mine in HR

[lilac tendon]

thank you sm!

[smoky tendon]

I don’t get what you mean flying through the room

[uneven rover]

are the drops still working?

[summer junco]

not really, poor and normal rarity gems I just sell them to collectors, I only keep uncommon above

[shrewd cove]

Since last night ive killed 41 cockatrices in hr 224+ without a luck build. Ive gotten 4 feathers and 0 eggs.
What in the world is the drop rate of cockatrice egg???

[uneven rover]

ok

[summer junco]

what does that egg do?

[shrewd cove]

Quest item for cockatrice merchant

[median holly]

Solo? Barbarian as always

[spare birch]

you mean druid panther build

[shrewd cove]

Smite, divine prot cleric eats barbs for breakfast if they hold W.

I mean, Im the barb lol. If you can bait smite and divine prot then kite for the 8 secs they become easy eats. But its the same with barb and rage/achilles/etc.

[summer junco]

I still think a good sorcerer beats every class, especially now that they given almost all the possible enchantments on gears.

[shrewd cove]

Pop rage and fake towards them, 99% of the time they pop their util, and with rage they cant catch you. Then after their stuff wears off use savage roar/achilles/whatever and win the 1v1

if its the 1% then tough luck and reset

[median holly]

Barely see druids on my server you guys sound like a cult to me, the druids i see are always bad

Rogue and barbarians i see them everywhere, you shake a tree you find 3 rogues and 2 barbs

[boreal gust]

if i do highroller do i get shit back from the goblin?

[spare birch]

I mean skill ceiling is dumb high so it makes sense. I've personally had terrible encounters with druids. They dive at any point, you hit them once and they chicken flap across the map just to heal fully and do it all over again until youre dead

[median holly]

No

[hexed shell]

I have a rework suggestion for warlock's shadow touch since it's kind of bad and boring in its current state. could be something like this: heal for 10% of damage you deal with melee weapons or dark magic spells. if you have this perk equipped, you will not be able to heal from curses (tm)

any thoughts? doesnt have to be 10% ofc

[boreal gust]

so whats the fuckign point of goblin? like i get it back if i do baby mode? whoopie fucking do

[livid pollen]

is anyone else constantly getting a "cannot connect to server, quite the game" everytime they log in after the patch? I login through steam. I have verified game files, reinstalled, and updated drivers.

[median holly]

Why play like this when you can just pick Barb and press W

[shrewd cove]

Druids are like cancer, the bad ones are like non melanoma skin cancer, its whatever and easily treatable, the good ones are like stage 4 cancer where you got a week left to live. Not fun
Delete druid

[plush zealot]

so like, is dad down rn or something

[spare birch]

if you go up against a decent druid it literally feels like youre playing 2 different games... Lol not even the same combat style

[wind venture]

Bit weird that they allow you to mine ore in PVE mode only

[shrewd cove]

No

[fervent anvil]

they allow you to get gold coin chests in pve

[plush zealot]

oh, just shit game word.

[shrewd cove]

Druid is the only class in the game that gets to choose how you play the game. Its ridiculous

[boreal gust]

not if people steal the shit? like i dont even get scraps

[shrewd cove]

From piles? I thought that bag and chest rates would be turned off

[fervent anvil]

nah its confirmed. its like a 1/1000 chance in pve and just gets better in the other modes

[shrewd cove]

neato

[hard rock]

Perhaps you should play some video games soon

[boreal gust]

but if they didnt take like 2 things i get that back

[shrewd cove]

Im chill with it, if I was brand new learning the game and managed to get a gold coin chest from pve that would probs be a highlight of my wipe tbh

[boreal gust]

well tell them that there game only gets shitter by the season it is great.

[stable niche]

ive stabbed 72 cockatrices looted some with luck potions 2 eggs 0 feathers very nice

targeting cockatrices when 0 spawns in a lobby is so great man u run through like 25 rooms just to realize there is no cockatrices around

[glacial elk]

i just got out of a HR where not a single down portal was available

[stable niche]

started doing it in pve didnt change anything this is the gaming gold i mean

down portals aint lost after someone uses em so this is either a bug or this dude telling a tall tale

[hard rock]

@stable niche merry Christmas to you brotha

[stable niche]

But its halloween

[hard rock]

Well Ironmace does holidays different I think

[stable niche]

I dont think thats how christmas works mate

i have but that time that guy was drunk

[glacial elk]

huh? no i mean like everywhere there shouldve been a red staircase it was sealed off and not indicated on the map until the end of game... feel a patch coming today

[stable niche]

guys is there unironically a trick to getting the cockatrice feather? Like hitting a spesific part of it or using a spesific weapon or smth

[cyan fox]

Trying to learn bard, what are the 5 must have songs?

[noble dagger]

Do I get more bluestone shards if I extract from hr

[stable niche]

depends on ur build i guess

[jovial marten]

I think, crystal ball need more motion delay. Is it weird, people use crystal ball only instead book?

[narrow carbon]

how do you fight a cleric as a bard?

[stable niche]

they messed with the speed i think cant touch magic people anymore

[glacial elk]

100% i have 1500+ hours; i went to the one in the church and the one on the big wheel same story

[noble dagger]

Do I get more bluestone shards if I extract from hr

[stable niche]

we got a goldsmith but dude doesnt even allow crafting of higher tier gems

[marble wharf]

does adventure mode reduce exp?

[stable niche]

no but u just get less cuz u come out with lesser gear

[glacial elk]

there are no blue statics in church nor big wheel only red

[spare birch]

Does spell casting speed affect anything if you play Sorc with Time Distortion?

[median holly]

No, just action speed

And time distortion is a bait after the last nerf, it's just straight up bad

[spare birch]

I play melee Sorc so i dont think i can without it

[royal prism]

whos fat

[frosty terrace]

the lack of bossing in hr is so shit, i wouldve quit already this wipe but they gave me a chest 🙂

[median holly]

-40% action speed makes it almost the same as casting the speed with high spell casting speed

[spare birch]

hm ok ill try it out, I wonder how much cast speed % would equal the same time

[median holly]

It will be a bit hard to try it out without the market, I'm on a pause from sorc, it feels horrible to play without market

[broken dome]

are the "find location quests" fun for you guys? Feels like the optimal strat is to jsut load up a barb into pve mode and mindlessly wander around empty maps, only to find out the module you need isnt even in your game, so you just have to let a mob kill you so you can do it again? Seems like a REALLY unfun game loop just to get quests done. Do you guys think the devs are aware of this and will they try to make this aspect of the game more interesting the future?

[stable niche]

73 ill just keep counting the damn cockatrices until i get a feather

[stable niche]

Way better than getting a feather from a cockatrice even though kinda messy at times because the rooms dont always spawn that is really annoying

they really need to add a merchant for selling maps so u can see the dungeons when they are consumed after they do this for the frost caverns its honestly a pain since some rooms never spawn

[native rain]

Wolf form would be cooler than panther

[stable niche]

we unironically need a hunting knife tool in the game asap

[tribal chasm]

did any one els get the dlc but not get the items ? i know pay to win but i dont got alot of time to play so it helps

[hard rock]

I need to borrow a few things if possible

[stable niche]

what do you waaaaant! im flat broke already the luck potions cost gold

[noble dagger]

Do I get more bluestone shards if I extract from hr

[opaque quartz]

yes

[opaque quartz]

but does the luck potion work whole time?

[stable niche]

cockatrice count 75 still no lucky feather, SO NO

rarity of items better atleast ig

[median holly]

Which mode are you playing?

[stable niche]

rn pve people were feisty in pvp and HR so i was too busy to even get to the cockatrices in the games

i dont even know how rare it is but its wild yes its just ludicrous absolutely outrageous and a great waste of time

Mm yes i enjoy playing the same map doing the same things over and over again to get another egg instead of a feather this is the life.

[hard rock]

Hmmm one long sword

[stable niche]

yeah im using it rn cuz its the fastest weapon i can use to stab cockatrice

[native rain]

Snail form. Behind you all the time, but somehow takes your extract right before you try to.

[stable niche]

all of the druid forms should get massive buffs

[midnight dirge]

SDF- Keep markets out of 0-224, and let the the 225 + have fun with there broken builds bought from the markets.

[native rain]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[stable niche]

but only one transformation available to a druid

[vital mesa]

did they nerf warlocks hellfire, or buff the gobling cave bosses?

[shell root]

that would be nice to have a ssf bracket where you only can bring what you find

[native rain]

BearSnail!

[median holly]

Eagle roach is a nightmare fuel

[native rain]

ChickenPanther, pecking you to death with insane bleed 😄

[midnight dirge]

you might be right I have not put a lot of thought into yet, but I would like to see markets removed completely and not divide the players base to much.

[urban owl]

Imagine Druid mosquito form, it’ll be the most annoying one

[tulip pagoda]

Express man items aren’t minted? Is this intentional or another bug?

[jovial marten]

Mosquito, eagle, all amazing. I love it.

[stable niche]

honestly it would be cool if druids could do like a chimera mix but they really shouldnt be able to transform into so many forms magic wielders also have an annoying amount of spells for no reason really

[jovial marten]

No. Chimera is shit.

[stable niche]

being able to transform into everything as a druid is so dull it takes all the fun of building it youre basically one and all no builds just club

Imo only fighter rogue and barb are just right in the game outside of that the other classes are just kinda outrageous how theyre set theres no different builds youre only allowed to be a mega mesh of everything with a few different best spells at your disposal with the irrelevant ones u keep switching on how u feeling

none of the other classes really have any personality bard is also just basically rogue but with buffs and debuffs instead of invis

[jovial marten]

No?

[stable niche]

i dont like to play barb or barbs either but i acknowledge its the least boring class after fighter and rogue i just main fighter

[halcyon fern]

out of curiosity, when markets go up, what do yall reckon spectral coin bag and gold coin chest would be worth?

[stable niche]

wizard and sorc are fun but they get so dull rq. drop rates seem to be quite trash now and u cant even craft spectral coin bag so propably a lot for now

[halcyon fern]

yeah obvs affinity for leathersmith unobtainable rn, just curious as sitting on chest and materials for bag

[cedar rapids]

Depends on how many people continue to find bags and chests in normals. If they remove it probably a lot as always. If it stays they should be rather cheap (chest especially compared to past wipes)

[stable niche]

heeeeh? and ur saying other classes require skill? as barb ur literally the games tank high damage dealer melee which u can basically choose 2 builds fighter has basically unlimited melee builds too it has so many things u can try out and be like thats dope most other classes just do the same thing little differently

[graceful bobcat]

did it happen? did PvE mode kill the game, completely ruin it. No more fun to be had?

[wooden gulch]

bro cerberus loot : one green flute. And that's it. Buff Abomination/cerberus loot

[stable niche]

i doubt itll become even an available recipe in a few months time honestly

[dusk maple]

How so

[wooden gulch]

just don't go in pve ?

[graceful bobcat]

(i was being facetious)

[dusk maple]

Ah I see

[graceful bobcat]

before wipe there was a bunch of doomsaying and crying about how PvE was gonna kill the game

[halcyon fern]

considering you can unironically pull gold coin chests in Adventure its gonna have a massive impact on values for sure

[lost ember]

druid is so freaking busted. They should have to choose between casting and shifting

[stable niche]

kind of kind of not people who are done with normal player killers who only play to go after players mainly playing pve now so pvp lobbies full of sweaty grease balls who wont let you grind and pve is very boring especially since the drops suck

[opaque quartz]

what form destroys u?

[stable niche]

honestly druids biggest issue is how quick it can transform to other forms like it can be panther and become a bear in like 0.2 seconds and already hit u

[lost tinsel]

Probably best for the economy, making gold storage more available is a great thing for all players

[wooden gulch]

who care about some pixel value ? market should never come back anyway

[halcyon fern]

got mine in adventure of cyclops pile

[stable niche]

but druid is a very weak class i hardly ever die to druid now i think they nerfed the heck out of it thats why i said they should buff it the hell up for its different transforms but limit the amount of em

[opal patrol]

so what legendary armor and weapons CANNOT drop from pve mode, but a unique treasure is possible? Where’s the proof for bags / chests being found in pve

[wooden gulch]

I'm a bit extreme must admit

[lost ember]

cat-bear. And he summoned the tree. I did decent damage but he ran away with the panther, then was casting at range, then jumped in, turned to bear and i just couldn't heal/dps enough

[opaque quartz]

all they gotta do is make druid pick 2 or 3 forms not access to all of th em

[cedar rapids]

I found one myself earlier. Its real

[stable niche]

have you seen druids outside of the ones who pick rat panther and bear? And the cool goofy druids who come greet you as a chicken

[lost tinsel]

Even if so, how is that a bad thing? Having more gold chests in circulation makes gold storage more affordable

[flat granite]

Druid instant shifting and ability to self heal like crazy are the issues.
A good druid can easily disengage, make a ton of space, reset to near-full hp, and be on their way back faster than you can drink a pot and use a bandy.

[cedar rapids]

Everything in pve is sellable

[stable niche]

i have not fought a single druid who didnt have rat panther and bear in their menu

[lost tinsel]

Fair but, if its so available, it will have no market. The market would be for artifacts which are now harder to get

[stable niche]

well the chicken one killed me but i gave up for the day with the cockatrice and stripped to be sacrificed for rngesus

[wooden gulch]

there can be a middle ground ? coffers being easier to find is a good thing

[stable niche]

77 btw still no feather

[lost ember]

Yeah, exactly. And i tried blocking the bear but i block, then the tree attacks, then the bear swipe...just impossible lol

[upper pawn]

It think it kinda fits the game that there is „gold“ as an item if that makes sense

[stable niche]

its kinda dumb its in the map since u can just get 10 stacks and cant bring coin bags nobody collects it since even a normal bracelet is worth more

[upper pawn]

You can bring bags at 225+

[cerulean crypt]

The game economy is a lot more complicated than this. I mean, consider why gold storage is limited at all anyway. Ironmace could just make gold an account stat that doesn't take up storage at all like in other games. Instead gold takes up a ton of space. There's design logic and intent behind this decision it's not just arbitrary.

[stable niche]

was surprised by this just died to a damn cockatrice cuz it kept pecking me first death to cockatrice this season did they change this or did i never know about this? regardless its kinda wasteful to have gold in the other difficulties even if this is true

[opaque quartz]

in escape from tarkov money takes up actually space too so i dont thiink its that deep as u thiink

[upper pawn]

The coin bags are unique grade items and you can only bring uniques in 225+

[stable niche]

77 this season in total maybe

[cerulean crypt]

Yeah and there's intent there as well.

[stable niche]

where hunting knife

[snow wharf]

guys can you get the cockatrice egg in normals?

[stable niche]

so we can get mob spesific loot after they dead once randomized quaranteed its annoying how many times u gotta stab these things

[drowsy plaza]

To the warlock named StoneXV, I'm sorry that skeleton footman killed you but I had a quest item and couldn't risk losing it

The dungeons are a cruel mistress

[midnight igloo]

why cant we link channels anymore? it aint let me copy and im not alone with it

[drowsy plaza]

😂

[jade kayak]

I've modified my beliefs, rogue deserves survival bow ##AND Buckler

[cerulean crypt]

Survival Bow Rogue is the most toxic suggestion I think I've ever heard.

[jade kayak]

You're welcome

[fading compass]

Hi! On goblin cave map - why cant i find the entrance to the troll boss? Marked that it shoul be ion "goblin town" but sometimes i cannot find the entrance, does anyone know?

[crimson arrow]

Maybe if we all stop to kill a cock's, this two on ruins start to reproduce? And some time later we get an eggs more quickly

[static frost]

Goblin town A is fake, you need goblin town B

[jade kayak]

Adv, Regs, or HR?

[fading compass]

Thank you!

[shadow barn]

Is anyone else having insanely long/ infinite queue times for HR Goblin caves on west coast?

[stable niche]

are u trying to join solo trios?

[shadow barn]

solos

[fading compass]

adventure

[stable niche]

no sane person does that cuz u need 3 random solo players in the trio mode are u sure? cuz the pve only works in trios and it defaults noticed it myself today

[elder heart]

Ya I gave up on it

[shadow barn]

the queues were really quick yesterday but now they are dead

[round meteor]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/630352/auto-sort-button

[dense vapor]

where do you go to find out what items to have for bosses? and how to summon them?

[stable niche]

the game isnt really progressing and its just giving u the same old quests except with more painful grind

[paper wedge]

Thank you, Devs for finally adding PVE mode. I didn’t find PVP much fun so now I can come back and enjoy the game.

[viral thistle]

feels

[stable niche]

[hard rock]

Anyone else not understand this game

[stable niche]

At this point i ask myself if i ever even had a soul

[desert orchid]

GUYS
We must theorycraft the highest possible regular interaction speed build for mining in pve

for stealing froststone ore ofc

[mighty burrow]

ive done over 200 and have gotten no feather or egg. Im convinced my account is bugged or something

[stable niche]

not to doubt u or anything but the season has been around for like 5 days and the cockatrice feather quest isnt on ur plate immediately i spent like 6 hours yesterday getting 50 kills but thats some next level dedication i guess

[lofty edge]

worst estate of game ever, plz remove sdf to the bin

[dusk tartan]

how to get gold this wipe I'm asking because after i killed troll the only thing I found was cyclops's tattered belt

[stable niche]

i almost feel like doing charity because im getting bored with the game but i wouldnt enjoy it

[regal light]

for now you can only get gold w treasure, but once market hits farming HR for gear to sell/use. Or if you're good at PvP that will always make the most money

[cedar ledge]

does undead slaying affect all cleric damage or only melee?

[mighty burrow]

its literally the only thing im doing. Spawn in PVE rush the spawn kill the cockatrice no drop? die to the closest mob repeat

[dusk tartan]

I meant gold ore/gold ingot/gold powder

[regal light]

pve droprates are worse, wouldn't reccomend

gold always holds its value, but hitting piles for gems can be a lot of money real fast. or froststone is good if you know wyvern, but normals ore got nerfed

[stable niche]

well atleast this lobby had a cockatrice in babrican too bad it was the last room i found and someone got it before me

[regal light]

all of their damage

[stable niche]

so many other people are doing it too and on top of that i have had 5 games today with 0 cockatrices in the game and havent been able to get them for like about 30 times or so cuz someone got to them before i did

[opaque quartz]

pve is ggreat

[dusk tartan]

I don't want to know how to make gold coins I just want to know how to get ore for crafting

[dusk maple]

Do you get your gear back in the crypts?

[stable niche]

anyway current counter at 80. Hunting kinfe WHEEEEEEN WHERE IS MY QUARANTEED MOB DROP

[opaque quartz]

if iits pve and not high roller yes

[regal light]

oh sorry! need both bosses to be dead, they moved middle room to cave altar. so you need to find 3 rooms to get it, or hope someone else kills the bosses @dusk tartan

[dusk maple]

First death there and it was a pile 😭
Wraith and full room with champion

[stable niche]

atleast in forgotten castle the rooms have a spesific algorithm for spawning. u know theres 1 location in the borderlands and 1 in the middle

[desert orchid]

pile is dead real bis is in skeleton bodies and praying skeletons

[pallid jackal]

Find three rooms by pure chance

[stable niche]

im not gonna lie im not really having fun anymore. The first 80 times it was great but at this point i really dont feel like stabbing anymore chickens in a videogame

[dusk maple]

I had no choice but to spawn there and aggro them all unfortunately

[cedar rapids]

any pile even normals can give you chest so pile is so back

[stable niche]

i dont even bother to escape after i stab the chickens i just die

[leaden peak]

ripp goblin merchent dont retrive pickaxe lol

[opaque quartz]

no slot items get retrieved

[stable niche]

honestly u get decent loot all the time so its not that big of a deal unless u do lose ur best gear

[upper island]

Go to HR drops for mob items are way higher

[viral thistle]

2 feathers no egg, when i find the egg im never looking at another c*** again'

[stable niche]

are they? I killed like 5 cockatrices in HR yesterday and i got 0 feathers so i thought they were the same but tbf i killed like 38 of them in pve and only 7 in normal

[stable niche]

im the exact opposite i got 2 eggs zero feathers when are they gonna add swish knife to the game this is unironically removing the light from the game

[opaque quartz]

damn i did like 50 pve runs and i got 3 feathers

[gray relic]

Not gotten a single item from goblin merchant

[stable niche]

the other 2 quests i got are the squires 3 x epic gear i need 2 more talismans and goldsmiths epic gems its such a pain that cockatrice doesnt drop either

[dusk tartan]

why is the cockatrice npc so hard to hatch I can't even do the first quest

[leaden peak]

yea rip my legendary pickaxe lol

[stable niche]

that one is easy mate just go stab wolves and then loot gold piles and chests.

[opaque quartz]

its ok its just as good as a white one lol

[leaden peak]

idk tried pve was the most boring thing ever lol

[stable niche]

i honestly dont understand why they havent added a item or a skill for looting mob spesific items after stabbing the mobs

[opaque quartz]

unless ur new to the game pve is very likely not going to be for you

[whole iris]

hey guys whats going on with the copy paste function in Dark and darker discord?

[stable niche]

Goblin king when i need something for this urge of gambling and i have no coins to spend

[summer lintel]

druid gotta be the worst class in the game frfr

[stable niche]

its good for pvp sucks for pve people just dont know how to dodge as druid the heads are always exposed

[summer lintel]

I mean its like so op that it sucks like it shouldnt even be in the game u can turn into a pixel rat and run away or turn into a big ass bear and slam so cringe

[viral thistle]

ive probs spent about 3k on luck pot aswell but no luck lmao

[summer lintel]

I dont think I ever fought a druid w/o them turning into like a rat or jag and running away to full then fighting again

[stable niche]

just stab it in the eye they always stare in your eyes when they kill you

[regal light]

worst part about druid is just how frustrating they are to fight

[opaque quartz]

u need to watch a video on how .luck works its not what u think

[stable niche]

yeah and it sucks u cant even buy it constantly i should just get luck armor at this point but i lost my previous set and dont feel like it

[summer lintel]

ye fr fighting a druid is cringe they just kite and never take a fight unless they have the upper hand any other class is forced to take a 1 usually

[pearl grail]

can i just go around hitting chests to discover a mimic?

[opaque quartz]

they jump threw door holes that needs to be removed

[regal light]

yep! there are also some guarenteed mimic chests you can hit

[leaden peak]

mannn i love spending 6 mins killing troll

[pearl grail]

thanks! ill look into it

[stiff heath]

Why is right click dropping items now lol. Is there a fix? can't find any keybind option

[summer lintel]

ye I mean I made a druid class and would just go bear form for fighting and then run away as a rat I almost won every fight using squire kit lmao

[stable niche]

im just going HR counter at 82 and this lobby just had babrican, i bet who ever said mob drops more likely in HR was trolling but i dont really care its getting real dull

[summer lintel]

its almost impossible to die as a druid unless u are bad or get caught first

[stable niche]

only 2k coins left im broke

[low kelp]

Yeah fighting timmys you will

[iron kestrel]

how do you select shit for the quests that need gear i dont want to auto select i want to pick the shit ones

[regal light]

that bug happens to me sometimes, I alt tab off and back onto the game and it fixes

[stable niche]

keep the spesific gear in inventory or just click them while in the quest menu

[iron kestrel]

can it be handled gear

[regal light]

no, all quest things are looted unless it specifically says

[stable niche]

read the quest how tf should i know some random quests reqs some stuff can be handled

[slim tulip]

If it takes you 6 mins to kill troll I think the problem is you

[summer lintel]

well ye most high end pvp would obv be in the high rollers, but couldnt test pvp on druid bc I was new class, but even timmy can pick up druid and just hide every fight r u catching up to a lil rat as any melee class xD unless u hit a stun

[twin locust]

anyone know the 5th quest for cockatrice🙏

[dusk tartan]

it take me 3 mins I use rogue is that bad?

[stable niche]

went to HR got my third cockatrice egg

[onyx wharf]

anyone got artifact item yet?

[low kelp]

You can kill them with torch or throwable or splash damage but they can be hard to catch at times

[stable niche]

the troll mightve not been a troll but this still hurts

[lofty edge]

fog of war, no goblin return items, randomice goblins, nice W wipe! feel bad

[leaden peak]

bro have u tried doing him rn its so much more hp

[opaque quartz]

fog of war is great u just need to get good

plus go play HR if u dont like fog of war cuz HR has no fog of war

[regal light]

HR does still have fog no? or am I going insane

[lofty edge]

for shure, looking for 1 hour for a pile that you would find in crypt/infierno is fun

[leaden peak]

waht gear ur useing ?

[opaque quartz]

HR has no fog im playing ice caves HR right now no fog

[dusk tartan]

base

[regal light]

ice caves is non-randomized, I'm talkin the others

[leaden peak]

have u even done him yet on this wipe normaly takes me 2mins to do him but they buffed him so takes me 5 min now

[opaque quartz]

oh yeah the other ones are to easy without fog of war if the mobs were as strong as ice caves than i coudl see them remove fog

[stable niche]

i think ill just focus on HR getting epic pendants and stabbing cockatrices which i find now plz if someone knows the mob drop chances dont change do help me in time ill complete the squire quest too

[regal light]

iirc mob item chances don't get better with the grade of the mob

[stable niche]

just realized in an unfortunate way i went to play trios in HR had 1 epic pendant

[leaden peak]

squire even give anyting usefull to unlock?

[dusk tartan]

yes found him the first time like 15 mins ago

[stable niche]

better starter gear i cant have the rusty longsword anymore tho so cant craft silver long sword which is a shame i got like 10 bars and plenty of powder

[fresh reef]

you still cant link your ironmace acc to steam right ?

[prisma lava]

Give us multiple wheels for emotes?

[stable niche]

never could.

[fresh reef]

what a waste of a game then

[leaden peak]

yea idk why takes so long for me i am hitting him like evry 1-2 seconds

[regal light]

couldn't link it, but you could move from blacksmith to steam

[leaden peak]

yea then u wont have the free legendary status they got from epic

[dusk tartan]

what class are you using

[leaden peak]

cleric rn

[dusk tartan]

he is not really good for any bosses outside ruins

[leaden peak]

i normaly kill him with in 2 mins with cleric tho

[shrewd cove]

48 cockatrices in hr 224+ and still no egg, wtf is this drop rate
didnt they say they fixed hunting loot?

[dusk tartan]

yeah but fighter is just better for troll because of longsword parry it takes like 40 seconds with longsword

[dry wraith]

yeah were all definitely getting a cockatrice feather for sureeeee

[desert orchid]

They only fixed pelt rates not cocktrice rates

[shrewd cove]

Genuinely cant be bothered to get off work and clock a shift on dark and darker for basically nothing. Been playing for like 8 hours like its WoW trying to get a quest item
Sub boss loot shouldnt be like a 1% drop rate in 224+ its ridiculous

[slim tulip]

the wiki says troll now has a nightmare version, maybe that¿s why

[leaden peak]

cant parry

[regal light]

gotta say without the market I just lost so much will to play. I don't like pressing F on boxes for 2 hours to put together a couple of aggressively mediocre kits

[opaque quartz]

u go do something u have fun with iinstead

[hearty socket]

why cant you link party chat anymore in disc in the lfg channel ?

[stable niche]

where hunting knife hunting knife in game yet?

[dense berry]

Gosh what a breath of fresh air adventure mode is. It's so nice to finally be able to just play the game without being the target of angsty pvpers venting their RL frustration by preying on randoms.

[prisma lava]

Its been a blast for me. I enjoy putting together a few pieces of gear and outskilling others, vs everyone running juice and gear diffing

[stable niche]

true honestly i dont get the players who target players in normal thats just a waste when they dont even loot em

atleast they bring u healing supplies but they just arent worth the time in normal

[heavy merlin]

Just pulled a gold coin chest in normals ice caves…is that supposed to happen?

[regal light]

definitely see the appeal! a good 0-hero is fun, but I have a lot of fun doing the actual building of kits and having a stat spread that feels nice. not having high action speed feels so sad

[shrewd cove]

Spread the word that wizard's magic lock works in pve so teams of wizards are greifing by locking people in boss rooms/ double boss rooms until they die to time
Make them fix it

[stable niche]

just realized the nightmare cockatrice can shoot fire damn

[plush plank]

Anyone know if troll pelts drop in pve mode?

[shrewd cove]

Yes, but at a very low rate

[stable niche]

much more fun to fight but that was a surprise it does some dmg also by all logic shouldnt it breath acid spray or smth

[plush plank]

That’s what I figured. Thanks

[shrewd cove]

Does too much dmg imo, took like 130 with 40% mag dmg reduction

[heady helm]

how do you link your twitch account to the game to get drops? In the game its greyed out for me

[stable niche]

it did just take like 70% of my health but i was running starter gear

[royal thistle]

all this game rn in solos is druid and rogue

[shrewd cove]

All ive seen in solos is fighter, rogue, druid, and barb. The very rare sorc.

[idle lion]

hey is the DLC stash still bugged and wipes everything?

[regal light]

they said it's fixed but take it as you will

[rain saddle]

Anyone noticed unique itmes have only one random bonus?

[regal light]

yeah some of the numbers get silly

[opaque quartz]

yeah my unique had plus 5 all stats pretty strong

[vocal turtle]

is buckler the best shield in the game if your good enought to block everything with such a small radius ?

[fiery plaza]

is troll/cyclops loot better than spectral/banshee

[rain saddle]

No i mean there was only one bonus stat insted of 5 xD

[prisma lava]

pretty much

[idle lion]

time to buy a new stash, transfer all my loot over and THEN get the dlc, at least they punish pay2winners by wiping their loot lmao

[opaque quartz]

yeah bad roll for u

[stable niche]

The cockatrice fire breath is super easy to handle actually they should make this cockatrice spawn in normal and pve too way more fun than the regular cockatrice

[rain saddle]

So its intentional?

[opaque quartz]

yeah seems u just had bad luck i had a unique with only plus 5 all stats but that is pretty good

[cosmic swan]

Yeah, now Unique item have only one roll but that can go way higher than usual

[leaden peak]

damnnn where yal finding these i hardly get any uniques

[hard rock]

Is this game any good if anyone knows

[distant flare]

yes

[rain saddle]

Ok thx

[burnt geyser]

What will happens to unique gem? Does it reroll a stat on unique still?

[distant flare]

yeah you gem another stat but it will be not as good as natural roll

[stable niche]

add them using their account name then

[cosmic swan]

Probably because you'r typing the Character name and not the Account name

[burnt geyser]

Ah okok thx, could be nice if the unique gem could add +1 all atrribute on any item

[weak portal]

Hero ❤️

[distant flare]

uniques roll +4 all naturaly so gemming with probly be 2-3

[stable niche]

literally says it in the text

[burnt geyser]

Ohhh didnt know that insane

[stable niche]

oh ok that makes sense

[distant flare]

yeah they have 1 random roll with very high value. so +11 move speed, +50 armor rating, +4 true damage

[stable niche]

yeah so far out of 3 cockatrice in HR only 1 dropped me a third egg i dont think the chances really are higher and it takes longer to find em in HR

i guess ill do the runs till i get the squire quest finished tho

[alpine tapir]

Every fighter I see only knows sprint, wear plate armor, sit and spin parry while praying.

[stable niche]

its the fastest pve setup

[leaden peak]

yeaaa killed him in around 2-3 mins just now with blue morning star

[burnt geyser]

Wow insane hahahha

[distant flare]

yeah 225 plus is going to be insane. people will be able build 20 true magic. imagine 20true magic on fireball (previous max was 11 with unique choker)

[hard rock]

My apologies for not being good at this game

[distant flare]

20 true damage with surv bows !! or elven bow

[leaden peak]

damn so the templar armor i got its badd it got 20 dittonal armor rateing

[quick ermine]

bro why are nightmare mobs damn near invincible

[distant flare]

yeah i saw a +52 armor rating chest piece but i don’t remember what kind

[leaden peak]

yeaaa they pretty rare to the uniques hardly find any only if i try to farm troll il get some

[distant flare]

i saw a. +11% max health on an axe

[distant flare]

bc they are NIGHTMARE

[torn sedge]

Anyone find any artifacts yet?

[lofty arch]

Does difficulty scaled drops mean 224+ HR has better loot drops than HR < 224?

[quick ermine]

def werent this tanky last wipe

[distant flare]

no it’s the same

[scarlet osprey]

Have yall noticed normal mobs have faster resets after swinging? Is this a thing? I did take a month long break but I swear normal skeles are attacking faster.

[distant flare]

mobs also have different weakness and resistance now too

[stable niche]

out of the nigthmare mobs spear axe and bow npcs are the most bothersome to deal with everyone else is pretty much the same but with like a new ability and better stats

[lofty arch]

is there a source for this because I've gotten mixed answers

[scarlet osprey]

225+ can drop artifacts and u225 you can't get artifacts. That's the only difference afaik

[subtle heart]

Just joined the server guys ,,,Hiii

[stable niche]

halo

[distant flare]

this, mobs are the same, difficulty is the same. the players is what makes it’s harder

[subtle heart]

hi

[stable niche]

and also the fact if u agro multiple mobs at the same time they get u stuck fast and some mobs do like autokill u if u let an archer shoot 3 arrows at u

[fickle jacinth]

fucking hell NERF DRUIDS

[echo flame]

Can we get druid buff please holy frock already

[prisma lava]

🫃🏻

[distant flare]

we’re talking about 224 vs 224+

[stable niche]

i thought the chat was about nightmare difficulty mb

[chilly rose]

225+ does have increased loot quality though?

[distant flare]

i was answering justin question

[tacit sparrow]

Frozen heart drop rate is 0 i swer killed so many today 50+ and not one

[prisma lava]

Yes. You can get artifact gear

[distant flare]

only artifacts from bosses. the rest is the same

[silver smelt]

how do i get cookatrice egg

[chilly rose]

Ah thus was what I was wondering, where does it state that?

[stable niche]

Does the mob spesific drops increase in higher difs im playing HR cuz ive killed about 85 cockatrices and not got a feather only 3 eggs

[lapis turret]

Anyone else having issues getting even one goblin ear? Will a potion of luck help?

[upper jungle]

I got all mine pretty easily just doing hr Squire gear and extracting.

[lapis turret]

Never done HR yet. Looks scary lol

[leaden peak]

thats a true chad gaming strat there

[chilly rose]

I'm the opposite, been playing in adventure mode and had 3 feathers and no eggs

[stable niche]

someone else had 2 feathers when i was still at 2 eggs myself

[upper jungle]

Once you know the mobs patern, it's easier. Only nightmare archers are causing problems to me and bola xD

[leaden peak]

mann Thanos are deadly no matter awht

[lapis turret]

alright imma give it a shot. WIll take my ranger for this I think lol. Wish me luck

[leaden peak]

lol just go in with squire and pray

[solemn dagger]

Ah yes the 12 magical healing unique chestpiece on the warlock, dude had 25 magical healing 😄

[prisma lava]

Hell yeah

[leaden peak]

i wanna find cool uniques likeee that but i only find bad stuff

[chilly rose]

Damn full health In like 3 secs lmao

[lapis turret]

ooohhh. I need to lvl 20 or higher D:

[azure mesa]

did they do rollback? im missing like half a stash from playing yesterday

[limber tiger]

@zinc sparrow please remove the purchasable seasonal shared stash from the UI when you decided to not buy it - its really annoying to have it where we are used to have our ACCESSIBLE family storage after buying the full version of the game already - stop being greedy

[lofty hemlock]

real

[azure mesa]

levels too

[gritty flume]

bro cleric is BULLSHIT, slowed to 200 off one attack?

[lofty hemlock]

[limber tiger]

the power of faithfulness + melee slow:P

[solemn dagger]

Buff cleric

[heavy anvil]

Buff druid

[limber tiger]

buff barb^:)

[lofty hemlock]

^

[oblique burrow]

give fighters fireball

[limber tiger]

nono, we need druid with spell reflection and poison

[heavy anvil]

Rogues should have a skill that teleports behind you

[gritty flume]

Is cleric not busted overpowered right now? I'm not understanding how that's okay and everyone's just glossing over it. I didn't realize cleric sucked you into a 2 shot vortex if they make contact

[limber tiger]

and rogues should also be able to cast genjutsu

[heavy anvil]

Druid perk suggestion : heal for every step taken

[limber tiger]

that was always an option, but its still not too popular going by % players

[gritty flume]

It wasn't buffed recently? The playerbase doesn't consider that grossly overtuned? I feel like i'm going crazy why does the class stunlock you on every melee?

[fickle jacinth]

FIX WINDBLAST REGISTRATION ffs sdf is a child playing with a gamedev company, having no idea how it plays

[limber tiger]

it was buffed recently but caster took a big nerf before the wipe already - smite judgment cleric was always viable and really strong for pvp since i started the game:D

[summer cove]

Don’t let them distract you with the dlc the gc map changes are the real problem 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[high roost]

I lost my 250 coin bags from the previous season I dindt sell them is therre any chance you think I could get them back if so where do I make the claiom?

[leaden peak]

lets goo got my second troll pelt lol

[limber tiger]

anyone plays GC still? thought everyone only on frost nowadays

[stable niche]

by the way where did the bushes that respawned after you stabbed them go to?

[shadow barn]

i only do gc

[drowsy hare]

GC isnt fun anymore, FoW has ruined all the maps, and ice is... ice...

[abstract jasper]

Why is it so stupid hard to find a mimic tongue? And also wtf is the drop rates of cockatrice feather? Like ive killed maybe 50+ mimics now, and 14 cockatrice, and i got nothing...

[limber tiger]

i loved gc pre randomized modules

[shadow barn]

i love gc more now bc of rando modules lmao, but i can understand people not likingit

[scarlet osprey]

Dunno if trolling but there was a wipe. Every 3-4 months everyone gets reset to 0

[leaden peak]

xD cant even spawn him inn

[wooden gulch]

I agree with that, I like FoW on crypt but hate it on GC. And, on this I think I will be alone but, I liked the fact that Ice was harder than other map, but hey, it got nerfed for this wipe, abyss in low roller is super easy because you don't have as much nightmare skelly as before, and some skelton have just been remove

[opaque quartz]

ur just mad cuz fog of war wont let u look at full map so u can bee line to a module you want and leave fog of war is great and stop people from just going to somewhere not to mention why have random modules if people can see them and know the layout

[limber tiger]

is understandable too its not bad in general, but i loved gc because of bossing - now id be happy finding 1 boss xD

[cobalt pollen]

I got a question are wanderlight lanterns worth anything ?

[heavy anvil]

A random fighter dropped me one ty random fighter

[drowsy hare]

@opaque quartz yes, how dare i want to go to modules with loot instead of the fillers ones... im so sorry XD

[abstract jasper]

lucky you. im sure youll return the kindness if you find one extra 👍

[high roost]

@scarlet osprey no I dont mean those I mean the ones that you get for being in apprentice or whatever I made it to demi and I got all the rewards but when I logged in all my gold coin bags that I got from the rewards is all gone like the 4-5 that they give you and my gold in them

[teal yoke]

ignore p2w shills, leave a negative steam review, add the p2w tag to the store page
sdf himself said if they ever added p2w we should be outraged, and they would remove it, so be outraged

[stable niche]

wait the sorcerers can disturb their invis and attack all of a sudden since when was that a thing

[opaque quartz]

without filler ones the maps would be so small and dumb sorry u gotta travel to a place iin a game

[drowsy hare]

@opaque quartz so you admit that the filler modules arel iterally just to fill space and not actually interesting, well played bro

[abstract jasper]

p2w? how is a few potions gonna make you win anything?

[opaque quartz]

yeah thats every game wtf u play escape from tarkov u run from place to place to go to area with loot. ARe you sick? do you want to spawn where loot is and leave sounds boring as hell

[buoyant ruin]

Cleric is ass wtf you smoking.

[drowsy hare]

@opaque quartz in tarkov... you know.l.. where you're going..... You just argued against your self 💀

[scarlet osprey]

Make sure you're on the character you got demi God on and check to make sure you didn't move them to another. Dunno mate. Should be 4 gold coin pouches. The ones that hold 250 gold each.

[shadow barn]

i will say, the circle does make it hard to do bossing now on none speedy classes. my druid is super fun to run around on GC HR, but my Wizard has a bit of a harder time. still fun tho and i like the chaotic engagements it brings

[stable niche]

didnt they give cleric a spell that can 1 shot most of the normal mobs now

[opaque quartz]

u still have to run threw filler modules in that game too

[mild nimbus]

Wait did I miss the P2W special? All I got was bags and potions....

[heavy anvil]

All games have filler rooms in dungeons

[drowsy hare]

alright you guys gotta be ragebaiting XD,

[opaque quartz]

no i think ur just special and thats ok

[drowsy hare]

well said brother

[abstract jasper]

yea, thats what the noobs say is p2w. They cant face the fact that they suck, so they blame the potions you get with the extra shared space...

[opaque quartz]

complaiining about filler rooms in a dungeon crawl game makes no sense so what is ur point

[high roost]

yeah I did that Ima just keepmaking tickets mayvbes its cause I bought the legendary status again but Ill hope they respond to help

[heavy anvil]

It's like complaining about a house having a corridor

[dusty coral]

finding barbarian loot is pain this wipe

[stable niche]

damn stabbing all of those cockatrices took my edge from the game i just keep dying in HR

[opaque quartz]

yeah houses have those they are called hallways

[drowsy hare]

@opaque quartz i didnt complain about the filler rooms themselves, it seems your dementia is speedrunning. You have to gamble your way through the maps and hope the actual useful rooms arent looted. you have quests telling you to find rooms that literally just wont spawn sometimes. get help i fear

[mild nimbus]

That is actually hilarious that people are calling potions and bags P2W...

[opaque quartz]

oh no u cant do all the quests in one run what a shame

[drowsy hare]

@mild nimbus i def dont think they are p2w, but i do think its setting a bad precedent

[abstract jasper]

right? they need something to blame instead of shattering their ego by admitting they're bad.

[median holly]

But the skins that give real stats that do interfere with PvP they all stay quiet

[hoary bridge]

Skins was the first slow introduction to pay to win now they ready to go all in... what a trash season pass.. Sell skin (without stat on it) and stop selling advantage like +10 marketplace slot just after everyone else marketplace slot..

[opaque quartz]

yeah they seem to have forgot what p2w is cuz if those were if i buy those i should win every match i play but i dont so they are not pay to win

[tiny shard]

any word on if next arena is going to be minted items only? last one was anything goes

[mild nimbus]

I think the fact we have ZERO RM going on without trading/marketplace Way outweighs any negatives from having some extra bags/pots

[abstract jasper]

if you think swapping 1 or 2 stats is pay to win, you really arent much of a player imo...

[heavy anvil]

Do skins really make that much of a difference in terms of stats?

[stable niche]

is arena handled items like everytime now too i remember when it was only looted and i lost my gear mid game and played naked

[median holly]

On my view no, but i also doesn't see the pack as p2w I like consistency

[dry wraith]

cockatrice is holdin out on me i know it got feathers bro

[drowsy hare]

LMAO

[surreal dove]

Pretty much this, combine that with them reducing the amount of market slots and then selling those instead and you have a scummy business practice

[stable niche]

If i just had a swiss knife it would not have feathers for long

[median holly]

This isn't verified yet

[teal yoke]

new "dlc" = rrmmtt with extra steps. leave a negative steam review, add the pay to win tag to the store page

[heavy anvil]

Yeah i don't see how moving stats by 1 point or getting potions and money bags can give any kind of advantage in PvP

[drowsy hare]

@median holly ? it already happened

[stable niche]

honestly if they wanna make bunch of money they should have dropped like previous seasonal skins and stuff in a money bag

[rancid siren]

why every fucking game 999 rogue why perma invis and double jump exist 😄

[mild nimbus]

Does physical healing or magical healing increase the effects of Warlocks Shadow Touch skill or neither do?

[stable niche]

honestly its a pain the moving is as it is rn u cant even melee magic characters

[merry cave]

FR SOLO HR IS 99% ROUGE

[heavy anvil]

Shadow touch doesn't scale

[surreal dove]

Either that or make a standalone PvE mode with private lobbies and sell that instead

[stable niche]

Well thats a bit too dull dont you think? But yes imo they should allow people to make their own dungeons or smth for a price like a market inside a game

[surreal dove]

Well it may be dull, but Battlestate Games did it and they clearly got alot of profit out of it, since they have started to divide more resources for their PvE mode

[stable niche]

yeah but thats not like the right way to go if u start doing easy money grubs ur just gonna ruin the game wont u

[rancid siren]

make rogue 9 stack invis and 40 stack jump so game will be funnier

[thorn hedge]

It scales with vampirism I think

[stable niche]

just got warbones artifact dope, bloodsap blade didnt come for this but this will get me coins in marketplace

[hoary bridge]

Even if its a small advantage its still an advantage. Also you probably dont know the game much if you think a + 2 agi is nothing. Movement speed strong in this game and druid benefit a lot from it.

Also the negative stat is irrelevant since you dont need every stat on every class

[median holly]

"Account-Wide Marketplace: Marketplace access is now shared across your account."
This is the basis for people saying that we will only have 10 slots for all, but it isn't very clear, that's why i said it isn't verifiable.

[stable niche]

how much does bloodsap blade go for anyway

[drowsy hare]

@median holly brother... maybe if you cant read lol

[rancid siren]

50

[stable niche]

really its that worthless?

[heavy anvil]

I'm gonna be optimistic for once and assume that it means that we don't have to unlock market with each character

[median holly]

you can't access the market from characters low level, this could mean now you can, the wording is ambiguous if you can't see that's not my problem.

[median holly]

It easily could be it, and it would make sense because they're simplifying the craft system in the same patch notes.

[lusty lark]

what are the all the drop timings

[silver smelt]

100gold?

[sturdy jackal]

Has anyone lost blue shards after wipe?

[spark skiff]

Why can’t casters use daggers

[teal yoke]

"Ah, time to play a new season of Dark and Darker" I say gleefully, pulling my wallet out.
"No time to waste grinding, let me just get a quick head start here..."

[stable niche]

I would have thought this if it was worth getting 1 more stash is like nothing

[crimson tulip]

Alright open up 🫱🕳️🫲

[prime sonnet]

auto stash sorting has been confirmed

[radiant isle]

is it possible to get feathers from cockatrice in adventurer mode?

[distant flare]

no where. hidden data

[solemn shore]

Druid & wizard can use rondel

[cedar rapids]

yes just less likely than in normals/HR

[radiant isle]

Thx dude

[honest geode]

what the heck have they done to this game comeback first time since wipe and it feels AWFUL, terrible hit reg, nothing registers they messed up all the classes im out

[stable niche]

Can someone confirm if this is true? so many people have been contradictory to this statement

[heavy anvil]

Man i am so excited I'll be able to kill so many players with my coin bags

[stuck lion]

Sooo, I found a + 3 movement speed kris dagger. Is this the game now?

[spark skiff]

Only 2 out of 4 and only one dagger tho 🥲

[teal yoke]

💳 swipe swipe swipe 💳 I'm playing dark and darker 💳 this new gameplay element is so fun 💳 farmed my bags way faster this season

[cosmic swan]

Yep, thx SDF...

[tame mica]

i just killed spectral and theres like a banshee soul downstairs, if you kill banshee will spectrals meat stick be down there or something?\

[buoyant compass]

hi , can u get pples banned for teaming in normal or its only HR ?

[distant flare]

. @chilly rose claims he got feathers in pve

[stable niche]

i mean the propability difference is it visible somewhere

[heavy anvil]

Yes now casters can have 330 move speed while casting spells huge W

[cedar rapids]

only HR. Unless they queue up to pre team in normals but thats almost impossible to prove

[cosmic swan]

HR only, except if it's pre teaming. Imo it's always worth to report teaming

[distant flare]

only hr and you have to submit clips to prove

[stuck lion]

found a movement speed spellbook too

[buoyant compass]

k thx

[cedar ledge]

what are cocktrice eggs for, i have 4 of them but i dont see a recipe for them or where to put them?

[distant flare]

but so will everyone else

[solemn shore]

Post a kit with 330 Ms then

[stuck lion]

POG SPIDERSILKK

[weary gulch]

guys explain me please why crafted items in same tier f.e. rare cobalt lightfoots consumes more gear score than usual rare shoes???

[heavy anvil]

I'm being sarcastic if it wasn't obvious

[royal prism]

brain deficiency

[silver smelt]

why rude

[stable niche]

[royal prism]

was doin better without u in my life

[heavy anvil]

I will take it as a compliment

[weary gulch]

guys any ideas?

[rancid siren]

it is because it is

[distant flare]

that’s just the way it is. we sent devs

[weary gulch]

is it a bug?

[royal prism]

become financially free before u come in here with all that bro

[stable niche]

u get more stats with the cobalt ones dont u?

[distant flare]

no. this is the game.

[weary gulch]

lol dude it was never working like this. That is actually only reason why people were crafting items

[west slate]

I think ppl were for arena

[distant flare]

people craft items bc they are better than findable items in many cases

[smoky tendon]

i love how op bard is so much fun fighting a bard every single fight

[tame mica]

I team with people all the time in normals, fire up a friednly conversation and then suddenly people like you come in and try to fight me while im mining so me and the freidnly guy kill you lol

[silver smelt]

what class are you playing

[royal prism]

[weary gulch]

epic lightfoots will be always better stat than cobalt. Crafting now pointless

[west slate]

???? They are the same but cobalt have armor pen?

[distant flare]

ruby silver rawhides gloves are better then legendary raw hides.

also gear score limitation can’t always wear epic boots

[weary gulch]

dude are u 100 hours ingame? epic got more speed and more armor rating in base.

[flint iris]

GUYS I AM MAGE I NEED A COUNTER AGAINST DRUID PLS HELP

[royal prism]

l2p, jerry

[distant flare]

doesn’t exist. you just die. sometimes you can cheese panther by jumping on top of boxes

[stark summit]

Low ms or something?

[honest geode]

the answer is FIREBALL

[surreal dove]

To be fair, they are doing exactly that right now by creating a problem and then selling the solution to it

[hearty brook]

THE ANSWER IS ALWAYS FIREBALL

[distant flare]

so what about my ruby rawhides ?

[weary gulch]

they are better only because it's easier to craft it's stats. epic gems>leg gems

[distant flare]

they are better bc they have different base stats. so crafting isn’t unless like you said

[heavy anvil]

All you can really do is to use verticality. Jump on top of boxes platforms or anything you can find to keep the distance between you

[stable niche]

Nah they aint its not even close they aint locking seasonal rewards behind a paywall or other stuff aslong as u got legendary status this is basically just an extra stash it doesnt affect peoples gameplay that much unless they fill it with coin baga

[astral charm]

Any1 else have tailoring questline and rare items dont exist?

Any else cobalt items missing?

[flint iris]

@royal prism of course show me u win 10/10 fights against Druid Phanter u Larry

as mage of course

[heavy anvil]

Is there anything in this game that the majority of the players love?

[dense quarry]

I like the bosses as a new player but have not been able to fell one yet

[distant flare]

there is no counter bro trust (1000 wizard hours). you can maybe win with bonk staff but you have to have ignite up when he pounces, sometimes you can side step pounce and mm but he will reset so gg

jumping on top of stuff also valid strategy

[royal prism]

Keep crying. Play the game and get out of the chat, broke boy.

[astral charm]

Anyone else missing cobalt items from tailoring?

[distant flare]

why are you like this

[silver smelt]

@mossy wing

[astral charm]

rare or normals?

[west slate]

It’s +1 Ms and 1+ ar. Negligible compared to 3.5% armor pen. Shit goes crazy on windlasses ranger. Also, you are the one complaining about gs, which probably means your a pusy minmaxer

[astral charm]

yeah i did the questline and dont have it

[silver smelt]

.. I can't kill skeleton champion

[astral charm]

i send you picture look

[distant flare]

you can you just not good enough yet

[surreal dove]

Im talking about the Market slots, not the additional stash space

[heavy anvil]

You can do it i believe in you

[silver smelt]

skeleton champion is too strong

[distant flare]

just jump on top of something so he can’t hit you

[stoic estuary]

Lookup videos of them?

[atomic juniper]

play a cleric and two shot them?

[night vector]

🫃🏻
🦵🏻 🥚

[heavy anvil]

Just change to warlock and monsters are a treasure not a problem

[heavy anvil]

Oh my god W

[safe schooner]

just got a "gold coin chest" how much should i sell if for?

[rancid siren]

300 gold. I can buy

[lament hare]

Can I switch class with 1 character slot?

[royal prism]

only if u delete

[lament hare]

Is my stash will be gone too?

[royal prism]

yes

[cedar rapids]

need one for third cockatrice merchant quest

[heavy anvil]

Idk I'm too poor to know wait for when market opens

[safe schooner]

450?

[rancid siren]

deal

[heavy anvil]

He's scamming you it's at least worth 550

[lament hare]

Ill get seasonal pack soon

[royal prism]

mmm might as well get full game if u are just f2p atm

[safe schooner]

thank you for not scamming me ill do if for 550 then

[fervent anvil]

buy everything in the game. all emotes, skins, packs. everything

[slate widget]

i ll pay 600 cause you look like a nice guy