game-discussion

[strong ember]

i hope they all working on quiever they swear last season to finally make it... oh or maybe it was 2 seasons ago?

[lethal oyster]

deff 13

[candid crystal]

Nah it's back up, currently ratting cave troll. For a 2k troll pelt...

[raven badger]

That's uncalled for, he is facing grave accusations for crimes he might have or have not committed and i don't where to go from here but yh not cool man

[boreal sun]

damnnnnnn

[vestal fulcrum]

game with infinite potential ruined by some m0r0n at the head of development

[strong ember]

why ranger cant have unlimited arrows as it was at playtests?

[vestal fulcrum]

idc what u think this dude has time and time again ruined this game for no reason at all, it doesnt take much brain power to fix this game

[raven badger]

But maybe he had a 2 year strike of bad days, happens to the best of us

[random niche]

anyone else suck loading into inferno indefinitely? currently happening

[stuck cloud]

Lol rookie lobbies so fun i cant find a single player with 300 hours on the game'

[candid crystal]

Rebecca be quiet and just get better. Maybe this game isn't for you?

[raven badger]

Just close the game bro, go to sleep you've got to get up early and shit, talking to myself kinda

[mental flume]

Anyone member ** THAT ONE HOTFIX ** like... a year ago or somethin'... where everything was good and gear and gold was everywhere?? If you were there... you know...

[vestal fulcrum]

id bet ur an absoloute shitter and i would smoke u on any class at any time, it takes a good player to realize this game is failing

[random niche]

what kind of moronic answer is this? It's 4pm and my first match of the day

[raven badger]

Hard copenhagen

[raven badger]

Sorry but there is internet outside of the us if a, crazzyyyy ik

[mortal salmon]

im still pissed i spawned in a room in HR with mobs aggroed and attacking me as i spawn in. getting spawn killed by an mob is crazy

[candid crystal]

Yeah bro my fault. I forgot I was so bad that I am having fun on this game and you are so good that you aren't.

[bronze wraith]

anyone else having trouble getting in on steam

[olive socket]

yes

[warm olive]

when is the last day to get the religon skin

[raven badger]

The diddyos is strong

[worthy pilot]

anyone tryna help me get life leafs

[cobalt pivot]

because the price of golden keys only falls

[steel trout]

what is a good team comp for trio hr

[random niche]

anything works in trio's, HR super easy with 3 ppl.

[steel trout]

bru we new to the game

what should we use

[analog sapphire]

whats the point of playing bard in solo if ur not bossing?

[random niche]

uh...ok.. what i said still applies. Whatever classes you are most confident with. It's do-able with all classes. Maybe avoid rogue and sorc if you are new. having one character with a shield would help

[hasty pike]

I do not understand why reporting a persaon for inapropriate names requires a video to submit the report

this guy had the f slur in his name and was screaming it in voip but i cant report it unless im recording

[lucid tide]

What should i keep my gold in? i've filled 2 pages, 16.4k gold

[cobalt pecan]

I can hold onto it for you

[spark skiff]

if feelmyheals the cleric is in here ty for not murdering me

[lucid tide]

[analog sapphire]

THE LANTERN SHIELD CAN TURN ON WITH R WHAT

[lucid tide]

R? reload?

[sturdy coral]

🙂‍↕️ u can also lmb attack between the riposte attacks

[sullen urchin]

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow any update to the community please? the game doesnt feel right

[analog sapphire]

ik but the light is actually really dope, never knew it until i pressed r randomly

[broken elbow]

doesn't feel right patch coming right up

[sturdy coral]

patchie

[wanton owl]

What is the best way to earn 200k outside of hr?

[queen panther]

Probably pelt farming and hitting pile on ice caves.

[glad fox]

Go into goblin caves as a panther druid, stay in the dark above players heads and landmine for 15 minutes, This is literally what these brainrots are doing now. Brainrot development

[wanton owl]

gold?

[analog sapphire]

if ur asking urself that ur probably not gunna get 200k, its so easy to get a bunch of gold just running hr and pvping

[wanton owl]

I am very bad at pvp. I get killed more than I kill, and I lose a lot of money.

[steel trout]

what does resourcfullness do for bard

[wraith depot]

where are the devs just letting there game die or what

[glad fox]

Filtered

[severe pike]

patch notes -bard is far too overpowerd. We are going to be removing his ability to play music

[glad fox]

No worries, we will get another class, skins and emotes soon. Why would you want balance changes in such a great game?

[lucid tide]

[tardy jungle]

didnt they say they're gonna space out the patches to release more impactful changes?

[lucid tide]

What should i buy as a gold saver? hit the cap for storage at 16k gold

[unreal stirrup]

half of the kids in here did their schooling during the pandemic. you actually think they can read?

[tardy jungle]

gems

[glad fox]

But druid could really use 15 str and agi on start, i hope they will finally update the class. He's too weak right now

[lucid tide]

fanum tax the druid

[tardy jungle]

no thats too weak, make it 20/20 please

[wanton owl]

?

[lucid tide]

got a rusty old key

[tardy jungle]

keys value keep going down, gems will remain pretty much same, going even higher during arena weekends

[glad fox]

It means you got filtered by the game, it seems to be too hard for you to adapt. Either you have to get better or play other games that suits you better

[tardy jungle]

like royal or epic rubies/emeralds/sapphires. I think rubies and emeralds are more valuable though

[void tulip]

rusty old key u mean the key to ur heart

[lucid tide]

that needs a fucking sledgehammer and explosives

[void tulip]

cheaper to just get prostitute

[lucid tide]

[blissful fog]

Hey random question, do you get the stats from an instument if its just in the slot? Or only when you hold it?

[devout hull]

only when holding, same is true for weapons

[glad fox]

When you hold it

[dusty coral]

does phys scale with shield slam?

[spark skiff]

whoever designed harpy needs to be put in a lobby a naked fighter vs 12 druids

[vestal fulcrum]

u run 25-124 normals its ok buddy maybe one day you can get into high roller with us :)

[limber badge]

Patch notes:
-added skibidi toilet to the game

[spark skiff]

yo whoever CnahShifty is enjoy your green coif and squire gear

[void tulip]

added homosexuality

[spark skiff]

absolute druid hoodlum acting friendly then mauling me with panther

[terse sable]

what do we think, patch this week or nah?

[prime crypt]

Whats wrong with it

[spark skiff]

knockback makes life drain no good

[cloud idol]

game down? failed to connect in US west

[ocean hatch]

When is the wipe?

[leaden spade]

the lost the lawsuit, game go bye bye 😢

[ocean hatch]

When

[leaden spade]

nothings confirmed just speculation, big brands really tearing into them financially

[upper onyx]

Does anyone know when they added a mini map function?? Thats so cool

[ocean hatch]

Well if the game is gonna go off forever it would be s shame

[molten forge]

well since that lawsuit was like 7 million they should start pumping out season passes and P2W skins XD

[true kestrel]

Anyone is getting an issue and can't log in? "failed to connect to the server" there doesn't seem to be any patch or anything

[atomic stream]

Yes

[severe pike]

why does anyone complain about rogues? they cannot use their only ability when everyone can see footsteps

[mild sinew]

we need more content

[nocturne walrus]

thats weird, a panther tanked 2 warmaul headshots, and then 3 tapped me when i have 170hp and 40%pdr, surely this is a bug right chat

[leaden widget]

Error 42 what is it

[fervent anvil]

its error 42

[narrow pike]

does the golden key room hold artifact spawns in the marvelous chests?

[real basalt]

hit em with a slatt

[tropic bane]

anyone in here willing to kill banshee for me for a golden key?

[terse sable]

yea its a bug he is supposed to 1 tap you

[spring wraith]

What do you mean? Druid is working as intended lmao

[glass peak]

One chest has a chance, the other chest does not, and then there is a gold pile also.

[keen lark]

yeah. so the value of gold went up. this is a good thing. no longer have giga inflated prices for shit like storage or most non-bis gear. dropping 20k gold on mats to store 1k was absurd. sure it's a bit unfortunate they dropped it midwipe but the likely alternative is the devs do nothing until next wipe

[spring wraith]

It makes me sad though, I was making money moves to the point I had keys,bags,pelts and trolls bloods stashed that valued at 1 Million now it's only worth 50K sadge

[keen lark]

I think gold keys specifically were a dumb storage anyway, but like, most other things fell too so yes you only have 50k worth now but it's 50k with a much higher purchasing power because everything is cheaper

[boreal haven]

what armor rating matter or do ingame

[spring wraith]

I've been just mining gold and crafting grimmies (total to make is like 800 gold if I have to buy some ore) but have been turning a 1k to 3K profit with lucky pulls (+1all, true phys/magic, max hp, magi heal all the high value rolls)

[keen lark]

i think the real lesson to take from this market crash is that you should only invest in things that are of use to you even if they sell for 1 gold. keys are bootycheeks

[crimson frost]

when do like major updates come out? or like new seasons?

[topaz radish]

anyone else lagging like crazy on us west

[lucid tide]

ic, that works well, thx

[keen lark]

wipes are like, every ~3-4 months i think? they usually release with SOMETHING relatively big. current season dropped with a new class, sorcerer

[lucid tide]

Any ideas on a bard name for memes?

[steel trout]

when did frozen heart become expensive

[open laurel]

Anyone know when S5 stats will appear? My friends and I see S4 stats listed as S5.

[remote shuttle]

How much is a gold coin chest worht rn?

[frosty hazel]

Is there something you keep after each wipe? Besides fame

[trail otter]

My friend is having the same issue. that's why i'm on the disord - trying to find out why

[limber badge]

At least four silver

[indigo lotus]

Anyone around that wants to carry me through a frost wyvern kill? been trying for 2 days

[west crane]

Keep trying, you got this

[indigo lotus]

@west crane Haha I'm trying. Difficult when other teams and solo's interrupt constantly.

[remote shuttle]

wtf happened to gold key price

[uncut cove]

Religion caused it to drop rapidly

[umbral arrow]

Every cosmetic is account wide. You do not lose any cosmetic bought or gained in quests.

[keen lark]

gold keys are useless and religion goldsink caused a lot of people to liquidate and for there to be way less gold in circulation, so they lost their use as a placeholder for larger amounts of gold

[low anvil]

Which stat makes me kiss harder?

[lucid tide]

holy shit bard has perks

[limber badge]

Strength

[ornate raft]

I cant roll a grimmy with +1 all, I need more luck!

[pseudo cobalt]

When is next wipe?

[chilly idol]

when is graysun making this game great again

[bright perch]

SDF's vision with rogues camping all day and night having piss gear, just to w+m1 with a Kris/stilleto dagger and kill any class via ambush+creep+stealth+dagger mastery. Ah yes perfection.

Love this game

[waxen tide]

Yeah, so everyone who stores gold in keys, bags, chests etc got screwed. The people who far named items got it good cause they BUFFED the already OP gear.

[celest pond]

so why does lantern shield just not riposte sometimes. shit devs? or just cant riposte certain weapons?

[cloud musk]

what weapons are u talkin about?

[bright perch]

It's SDF's vision. It's a 50/50 whether or not the hitbox works on the lantern shield

[celest pond]

ive seen it not riposte on spears and just now an arming sword

[keen lark]

impact power affects the window you have to riposte, so it's much easier to parry off a bardiche hit than it is from a dagger.

[celest pond]

ah so stinky devs got it

[keen lark]

but i've honestly noticed it being a little janky sometimes too yeah

[cloud musk]

if u dont block the sweet spot of the weapon the window of reposte is very small

[celest pond]

i mean i blocked him twice

[cloud musk]

u probably blocked the handle, thats what i meant

[celest pond]

i mean it does the same shit to mobs

[analog sapphire]

why does that sparkykawa guy always complain about the game? do people just do that?

[dapper thistle]

no hes a cry baby. he hates the game he just doesnt get views playing any other games, so he just plays dnd

hate might be a strong word, but he doesnt like it right now

[analog sapphire]

oh, because it seems that if anything happends to him he just gets angry, i was watching his stream and he got super angry that a spider was chasing him, idk.

[dapper thistle]

yeah hes on one. i mean the game is in a pretty bad spot rn

but if you dont like the game then dont play

[ashen oriole]

is it possible to get zerksi eye or any other named from goblin caves through the middle?

[sharp heart]

ANY1 know why my game gets so laggy late at night

[glacial lagoon]

hi, i never played this game before.

[limber badge]

Welcome and God speed

[glacial lagoon]

thanks! Been trying different extract games

[limber badge]

What have you played so far? Any favorites?

[glacial lagoon]

No, Basically lol. Tried hunt, but that game sucks now. IT used to be fun af. Ill never play Tarkov, that games a cheaters paradise

[real magnet]

Are you into Dungeon and Dragon type games?

[glacial lagoon]

bg3 divinity original sin 2, never winter nights 1 and 2

[real magnet]

Dark and Darker, its an extraction rpg

[fervent anvil]

no its clearly a bonking sim

[real magnet]

NVN 1 was the best what server did you play on?

Well thats what they call it... Terminal have you tried Conan Exiles?

[glacial lagoon]

No. I dont like Conan universe.

[analog sapphire]

wdym its a complaining simulator, go watch any content creator lol

[fervent anvil]

no complain. only bonk

[trim kestrel]

i was about to kill someone and he drop his self on the water in ruins, u die when u go there or what?

[steel juniper]

if you swap servers do your characters stay the same or do u start fresh

[analog sapphire]

read what you typed, does that make sense?

[steel juniper]

yes because it's a valid question? There are games where different servers are completely separate, and there are games where its just the network/ping that changes

[analog sapphire]

if you read ur question, it would answer its self, its kinda like asking, are there fish on the moon?

[steel juniper]

not at all

[frosty hazel]

So I lose even the pouches and bag-like items?

That kinda sucks, they're QoL items. It's not like it affects the experience of other players that much

[analog sapphire]

well are there fish on the moon?

[compact hollow]

So when’s warlock getting nerfed?

[celest portal]

Can u get skull key in norms??

[reef turtle]

yeah, gk drops it, I believe crypts bosses drop it, and it has a abysmally low chance to spawn in the alter room in arena

[hallow coyote]

Everyone look at channel trio party 25

[celest portal]

thanks'

[olive crest]

CHANNEL 25 IS A PERV

[umbral arrow]

maybe they will add some kind of bank later. For now is this.

[mighty flame]

DAY 200 OF NOT FINDING ANY OIL LANTERNS :(

[south temple]

Hey, in hell which rooms have exit?
the new map style make me lose my way so often that I can't find a portal in time

[dreamy moon]

Death skulls

[south temple]

Because me and my friend died for not finding a exit after going through 11 rooms 😛

[mighty flame]

Yea i been going straight for pyramid to farm them and theyre all dead when i get there fml!!!!!!!! PMO 💔

[gleaming moon]

Is anyone else being charged twice the entrance AP they should be for HR?

[steel juniper]

it was a valid question and im sorry u dont understand ☹️

[gleaming moon]

Rather than trying to find that in the fog of war you could kill the four in the top right corner of the ruins map (underneath the tower).

[hoary jetty]

is there anyway for me too get into the wizard chat?

[steel juniper]

click channels & roles at the top

[hoary jetty]

ahh okay thank u

[mighty flame]

That sounds like a good idea thx

[gleaming moon]

There's also three in the cave in the top left tile.

[fluid spade]

Question, is there a reason so many people drag mobs in PvP fights? They'll just rush with a bunch of mobs following them.

[pulsar cliff]

Is it still possible to get artifacts from reward tokens and gob merchant gambles?

[celest portal]

can u get teh chest from looting pile in norms?

[pulsar cliff]

No, only in hr, but you can get a coin bag for the same rate in norms

[signal hedge]

for gemming, is it better to use PDR or additional armor rating? which gives more or is it equal

[ornate raft]

I think PDR cause armor rating scales down the more you have

[cosmic swan]

PDR

[signal hedge]

thank you guys

[sage ferry]

anyone know when wipe is?

[next bane]

when does the next season start?

[untold ocean]

does true phys affect bow damage?

[sage ferry]

yes

[sage ferry]

idk

[analog sapphire]

welp i got banned in sparkykawa's chat for saying "if you dislike the game so much why do you continue to play it?" pretty funny

[next bane]

im asking because this ones been going since december and it looks like high rollers have already closed

[tardy jungle]

hes a big baby, i called out his cleric in arena for desync blocking and dude claimed i was a cry baby and the bug(s) didnt matter

[terse sable]

does anyone else always run into exactly their counter whatever class you play. like the coincidence is just stupid

i always load up in nice gearsets and immediately run into people that counter my build

so unlucky

[loud bane]

HAS WIPE BEEN ANNOUNCED? WHY GOLDEN KEYS ARE 2K?????????

[obtuse gulch]

Change the character death animation back! The new animation is too boring, too stiff, too boring. The old animation is very flexible, very much like the real human body. Go back!

[delicate minnow]

Gold keys dropped in value due to religion skin being released for 200k gold.

[loud bane]

How does that work? is the new skin a consumable?

[delicate minnow]

As you donate gold via scrolls bought, you work towards it.

[obsidian shell]

you must donate 200,000 coins worth of donations to your chosen religion to recieve the frost walker skin ( the same as the old one, just slightly different color)

so everyone is selling their keys/pelts/fabrics,etc on the market, and therefore decreasing the overall value those high value items.

[obtuse gulch]

Change the character death animation back! The new animation is too boring, too stiff, too boring. The old animation is very flexible, very much like the real human body. Go back!

[dense flame]

I’ve learned which characters to run from 💪🏼

[fallow basalt]

almost done with voyager

the next 3 ranks of exemplar are gonna be a pain but im close to demigod

[obsidian shell]

HR AP YEEEEEE

[fallow basalt]

i think hr would be alot more fun if you didint lose ap for dying should just be +0

[obsidian shell]

yeeh, kind of annoying to have to make alts of your demi class to continue to play HR without risking rank

[fallow basalt]

on the offhand demigod grind should take longer if you dont lose ap

im just glad you dont have to pay 100 gold each time that was horrible

[iron mauve]

11 minutes for a fuxking high roller 225+ is fucking crazy

[obsidian shell]

I feel like it should be something obtainable by pretty much everyone. This game should reward people for playing it, not only for no lifeing it.

You paid 30$, you spent a handful of coin for a 224 kit, if you play HR you should be able to get demigod

If it takes a million years to get demi, I feel like a lot of newer/"less devout" players will not engage in HR at all, which is the opposite of what should be

people should see the rank grind, and WANT to do it

[tardy jungle]

30, while not having to spend anymore money, rewards should be earned, not given

[crimson frost]

how long ago was the last wipe?

[obtuse gulch]

Change the character death animation back! The new animation is too boring, too stiff, too boring. The old animation is very flexible, very much like the real human body. Go back!

[tardy jungle]

someone is not a productive member of society

[iron mauve]

Is it bad I only play frost

[obtuse gulch]

sdf

[obsidian shell]

yeah, but, like, this is a video game, not a real life job. Y'know what I mean?

Regardless of if it takes 100 games or 10,000 games of HR on average to get Demi, people who no life the game will get demi in the first week/first few weeks. That's totally fine. I'm one of those people.

But that's not really what I think HR should incentivize, eh? HR shouldn't be a bunch of players running around the dungeon playing "run from PVP game" for their HR experience. You shouldn't HAVE to change the way you play the game to get demi. It should be, well, a REWARD for playing HR, instead of norms.

[tardy jungle]

people shouldnt be afraid to pvp, but blues and reds are so accessible that they do that instead of kiting and attempting to reset the fight

also with invis rogues, druids, and ranged weapons in the game just creates a space that is anti fun

[teal forum]

When are they just gonna lock out Asia to deal with the cheaters

[terse sable]

yo guys i guarantee next patch there will be 0 changes to druid

[toxic oyster]

No way golden keys are 2000

What happened to this games economy

[brittle barn]

Servers laggy as fk for any1 else?

[analog sapphire]

yeah, its pretty sad that theres a lotta content creators like that, that play this game.

[analog sapphire]

well yeah ppl are constantally selling, i thought about waiting till last minute but i had a lot more money in items then i had thought so i ended up seling 200k worth yesterday and still got quite a bit left in gold coin chests, its probably gunna keep going down.

[gleaming moon]

Why is the entrance fee for high roller doubled vs what it shows as on the chart?

[keen lark]

It's different values for different maps, make sure you have the right map selected. goblin caves is cheapest which i think it defaults to, frost mountain is in the middle, then ruins is the most expensive

[gleaming moon]

Ah I see, thank you!

[copper grove]

Iv heard rouges are pretty bad, can they be played well?

[sick delta]

how much is a honeybliss pear worth in market?

[regal pivot]

ppl selling them to get gold for the religion skin

[signal hedge]

for high roller, is there any difference between the two gear brackets? outside of the obvious people geared. Are mobs harder? better ap rewards? better loot? etc etc

[regal pivot]

from what others have said... better loot plue the more geared players

[signal hedge]

tyty

[vernal trench]

Do religion donations all have to be made from the same character? It only shows one character name under the dono thing.

[regal pivot]

np prob

[lucid tide]

Yeah i think so, my friend donated 20k through cleric and his fighter didnt have progression

[keen lark]

the leaderboard is separate. you can do it from multiple characters, it sums under the reward tab, but the leaderboard shows a different count that resets every week

[lucid tide]

Oh, how do you check total progress then?
I wonder if the skin is tied to account or character

[vestal grotto]

you can use the skin on different charaters

[keen lark]

click the little chest icon showing the rewards, it'll show 'my offerings' with the total number of scrolls given for your account. and yeah the skin is just unlocked for use on any character, even ones you make in the future

[nocturne nova]

is anyone else having a sound bug in the bridge module in ruins?

[narrow whale]

So why do rangers get rewarded for absolutely blowing a fight with multi shot? Nice vision sdf 🫡

[lucid tide]

W, thanks

[nocturne nova]

rangers are pretty balanced tbh

[narrow whale]

Must be a ranger main

[keen lark]

devs nerf tripleshot to scale arrow count with bow type so longbows arent busted as fuck -> they dont do that for shotgun -> ???

[narrow whale]

Nope

[nocturne nova]

nah i just kill them pretty easily

[slow flame]

anyone having issues getting a match?

[nocturne nova]

in solos no

[silver hill]

cant queue into solo trios HR anymore??

[sterile wadi]

How do I do the interact double stone door quest?

[bright crypt]

holy shit how is the invisible spike log not fixed yet

[indigo ginkgo]

I got paw wacked good by a panther today. Fast and Furious they are!

[zinc sparrow]

Hi everyone!
If you would like to ask SDF and Terry a question please feel free to go to the #qna-feb2025 and ask!
You will only be able to ask one!
We will pick from these and answer some.
Thank you!

[raven badger]

Wen is qna @zinc sparrow

[zinc sparrow]

The date has not been announced yet

[raven badger]

ok

[teal jetty]

any duo Q anyone join -_-' it big dead game sadly

[low gyro]

Just under 100 hours in this game and absolutely loving it. The community has been pretty welcoming. Thanks fam 🔥

[tardy jungle]

sorry bro, this game is just not fun, bad loot and cringe pvp

[teal jetty]

sorcer need fire spell for nice longsword

[raw maple]

Says I can get skin here but IDK how.. The link doesn't work for me

[teal jetty]

true only pve is good

[lucid tide]

What stats should i build for lantern shield bard? I feel like he doesnt need anything for pve, so just maxing vigor for pvp encounters?

[teal jetty]

but its kr game what do you expect

[tardy jungle]

at first, then you just feel dead inside playing fighting the same mob 10,000 times

[raw maple]

Help

[teal jetty]

but pvp is the same . everyone is diff but same gameplay

[small dome]

when are they gonna release the rewards for High Roller??

[teal jetty]

game need visual rework its too old gen. its just some asset of ue5 mixed but any art work

[tribal gale]

Dex, vigor

[tardy jungle]

the thing about good pvp, is outplaying and getting good gear. I love melee combat, spacing/blocking, but this game is never about getting good melee anymore. Ranged physical/magical is all that matters. Someone is always trying to get that one up in ranged before it ever goes to melee. If melee happens as well, its just stats clashing, tank rogue, panther, dglee fighter, its just not fun

[teal jetty]

i prefer farm pve and be be abble to buy a full purple in less than 1h of farm

[tardy jungle]

meaningful purples are costly. pve alone will not cover a good kit to fight against other good kits in 225

[teal jetty]

bro 1h you are 350

[jolly lotus]

can you just make another account if you get caught cheating?

[tardy jungle]

i understand gs, but a purple with shit stats is not that useful

[teal jetty]

i like and hate wizard its a shit class hard to play 2hit and dead and small damage now

[tardy jungle]

ya shit purples u got no hp bud

[teal jetty]

true

[viral needle]

question, now that religions have reached max level, does that reset? i dont want to lose my 82k

[lethal trout]

are we expecting a patch this week?

[teal jetty]

legacy true and sorcrry was nice but finaly not lol

[vestal fulcrum]

sdf will drop one whenever he feels like it because he eats shit for a living

[lucid tide]

Apparently the thing is a leaderboard, and your progress its tracked seperatly in a rewards tab
#game-discussion message

Id check if there is a reset timer there

[viral needle]

no i understand that i meant moreso the levels as in each one has been donated enough to that they're max levels

i dont want to not get the emote after putting in 82k i just dont know if that follows ap season end or whenever religons got max level

i worded that horribly but what im getting at is the rewards

im very close to unlocking the emotes and i dont want to lose 82k gold i couldve spent on kits but spent on getting the emote

[wraith pawn]

brother are people playing on NA servers it feel so dead i havent seen anyone all day

[teal jetty]

eu is dead for auto Q

[viral needle]

ive been on na servers and killed some poor chap with a rondel dagger as he was trying to block it with a longsword, kinda feel bad

it hit his longsword twice too and he forgot to even ripost lol

[teal jetty]

but for real every extract game are dead/low pop lmao

[tardy jungle]

game is stale and unbalanced

[viral needle]

if you're playing solos its only like 8 players in a game and most of them die lol, ive noticed usually 7 people die on ruins and then its just me till the map starts hurting me

[uncut cove]

They didn't forget to, it's just that the window where you can riposte is dependent on impact power, and daggers have very low impact power so the window is very small
This is also why higher action speed makes the window smaller too, since it makes your sword flinch faster

[vocal vine]

8 true damage and above 50 magic power bonus magic missile hits like a truck. do the math on dark and darker wiki damage calc. learning how to build instead of slapping purples on is important.

[viral needle]

rip that kinda makes me feel worse because i was way undergeared and took a bunch of stuff from him, legit a full inventory

[uncut cove]

It's their fault for trying to parry a dagger lol

[viral needle]

deadass i was so low if he just hit me instead of trying to crutch i wouldve died, my second wind ran out before halfway through that fight

[teal jetty]

i know bro

[warm dragon]

yo i am new to this game just got it today have been playing all day but was wondering if when it is out of beta if it would only cost money to be able to play ?

[vocal vine]

Then how are you getting 2 shot and taking forever to kill things? Getting around130-140 health and 35-40 pdr is very manageable with crafting rubysilver pieces and getting the aforementioned damage isnt hard either.

[viral needle]

i dont think this will ever be out of beta, look at tarkov

[warm dragon]

oh yea your right lol

[tardy jungle]

@cinder bloom bruh ranger is viable, backstep/shotgun/spear/chase so u dont get ambushed, like wtf

[vocal vine]

yup

[tardy jungle]

you wanna fight kratos as a ranger or some shit?

[cinder bloom]

Do you play ranger?

[tardy jungle]

2.1k hours played every class

[teal jetty]

i just didnt baught bis gear like you said that why wizard is shit if no big gear. but if with bis stat he is ok, other class will be strong too

[limber jolt]

No skill expression, people only use easy classes because they are the strongest, So there's no point in playing other classes. It's all too gear based, so only if you grind can you be competitive. Too many calculations, even if you are dressed completely in yellow or purple if you have not done the right mathematical calculations you are probably still not strong and not competitive.

[tardy jungle]

also fought every class, ranger has ways to engage in melee, honestly too good of ways to fight the other melees. you're a RANGER, not a fighter/barb

[marsh adder]

bro tf game are you playing you don't need to do math

[vocal vine]

Wizard is strongest with gear whereas some classes are better without gear. Druid barb cleric are good example of being good in low gear or squire gear. Wiz rogue beinggood with gear scaling.

And the gear is good but idk about bis

[teal jetty]

true

[vocal vine]

phoenix choker as high quality as possible and the rest is kinda whateve

[fresh plinth]

why is everyone ratting in duos
? no ones running names we got rogues bringing in 2 bardiches to get in

[raven badger]

Tbh ranger is fine, some other classes need some adjustments

[vocal vine]

Ranger needs shotgun and backstep nerfed

[teal jetty]

its best magical power flat or % if i have choise?

[versed dew]

@zinc sparrow When does the qna end ?

[vocal vine]

Blocking or dodging arrows to get 1tapped by shotgun is extremely bad.

[raven badger]

If anything backstep needs another stack and shotgun is working as intended

[limber jolt]

No? In every game if I don't think about ms, mh, Will, hp, knowledge and other things it's useless for me to play. And it's not enough for me to have yellow or purple clothes, I have to find the right rolls otherwise I'm useless

[tardy jungle]

true i should be able to backstep equivalent to panther chicken jump

[vocal vine]

Shit why even have melee at all in the game at this point? Should just delete barb as a class.

[marsh adder]

brother you don't need math to get max hp on cloth pants like what?

[limber jolt]

Melee in this game is terrible, just watch a fight between two barbarians, just close your eyes hold left click and hope you have the best equipment.... Terrible

[raven badger]

Just add a timer for how much you can hold it, then it's fine

[teal jetty]

any game sound when eating shamallows omg lol its not occidental art design fr

[marsh adder]

no not really I mean it depends on the weapons being used but like if I have a zweihander I could out space and out skill my opponent

[tardy jungle]

so spacing and dodging doesnt exist right? ranged magi cis just splashing and hitscanning lil bro

[limber jolt]

What do you play? Lol

[vocal vine]

You mean spacing dodging and acceling weapons to hit sweet spots/headshots? Sounds like your playing somehting other than dark and darker

[carmine spindle]

druid needs a buff

[marsh adder]

brother I don't need math to search for max hp and phys power on boots

[limber jolt]

Just spacing, but that doesn't make it beautiful

[weak rock]

wait guys sorc needs a buff its literally so ass

[vocal vine]

L take melee should be in the game not perpetual run and runner femboy bonanza.

[marsh adder]

I have killed people that have artifacts when I am wearing a budget kit because I dodge them

[weak rock]

I think the cooldowns should be 0.01 instead of 0.02 on sorc

[limber jolt]

What class did you have?

[marsh adder]

it was barb vs barb

[tardy jungle]

so no dragging, no dodging, protecting head, no blocking. is splashing fireballs, hitscanning, aoe spells better?

[carmine spindle]

like bear form needs and extra +10% phys power

[vocal vine]

Bear form needs that about as much as your computer needs to be dunked in a bath.

[limber jolt]

I can't talk to someone who talks about barbarians, try more complex classes and you'll see that just making an equipment to be decent is a labor

[marsh adder]

dawg I main wizard

[limber jolt]

So why don't you know the game? Do you do HR? Lol

[marsh adder]

like this kid is talking about how gear is the only thing that matters and then I talk about how I killed a artifact with a budget kit because I spaced and dodged properly and then he just says some dumb shit bruh

[carmine spindle]

cat leap also shouldnt have a cooldown heck no wild abilitys should have cooldowns

[vocal vine]

good bait bro

[tardy jungle]

nah apparently we're too stupid to understand wiz

[marsh adder]

alrighttt so we are rage baiting I mean you literally can't use artifacts in norms bruh

[carmine spindle]

druid is too weak 🤷‍♂️

[marsh adder]

?

[tardy jungle]

i agree man, i die 80% my fights a driud, buf plz

[dawn monolith]

do you get more ore/herbs in hr?

[carmine spindle]

druid shouldnt be able to lose at all

[limber jolt]

You had the barbarian! Lol you don't understand. But then again they say that the strongest is Skinny Pete who knows all the bugs in the game and only uses the barbarian which is Op and easy.

[tardy jungle]

yes he iz pecful clas, why we havf to dei

[vocal vine]

He doesnt only use barb first off. He plays fighter sorc and lock. And secondly some of us dont like soylent and staying away from actual fighting or even prefer a mixof ranged and melee rather than looking across the room and flinging fireballs and MM. My wizard arena experience is literally laughing as people run from fireballs calm down.

[carmine spindle]

a artifact war maul that extends itself depending on how fast you accelerate the attack (obviously capped)

[vocal vine]

would like it to be a movespeed slow armorpen buff. 75 armor pen with 1 second slow oh lawd itd be nice

[tardy jungle]

barb 1 shot my battleaxe fighter, plz nerf

[carmine spindle]

we need more artifacts this patch yk

[tardy jungle]

alright bruh true dmg warmaul is a good one

[limber jolt]

He almost only uses the barbarian, I killed the entire lobby with the barbarian the first time I used it. It's easy and disgustingly Op.

[tardy jungle]

ah yes, normal dungeon killing timmies that dont undertand how to fight barb, got it

[marsh adder]

he plays warlock sorc and bard and he did really good on all of them

[limber jolt]

I'm talking about HR, little Hobbit

[vocal vine]

Timmy slaying isnt hard.

[carmine spindle]

DONT hear me out but a artifact cerimonial staff that gives a 2nd stack of all druid abilitys (also gives triplejump on chicken)

[tardy jungle]

so u killed ap farming timmies, got it

thats 25 to life btw for that

[marsh adder]

this Ocrop Oid kid is just rage baiting its so obvious

[vocal vine]

you said first time using barb. how you in hr when level 20req for hr.

[marsh adder]

lmao true

[limber jolt]

Keep playing with your op class in an unbalanced game so you feel good.

[tardy jungle]

i dont feel good though, game hurts me with wiz/sorc/ranger/lock

[vocal vine]

This Ocrop guy just talking out his ass. "My level 1 barb with no skills and perks melts hr lobbies against named players."

[limber jolt]

Hahahahha Because you're a noob and you don't know how to use the most Op and easy classes in the game

[tardy jungle]

oh and druid, dont forget that one

[tardy jungle]

true i cant request anymore knights, they all left me 😦

[limber jolt]

True story 😂

[viral needle]

rip to whoever i just jumpshotted with a fireball while they were running, that shit was straight out a 2009 montage

[spark skiff]

WHY IS THERE A LEVEL 59 DRUID ON GOBLIN 0-24

[viral needle]

bruh im level 120 on fighter in 0-24

im spending all my money on religion, im too holy to afford to play 24-124, blame the church

[spark skiff]

HOODLUM RUFFIAN TROUBLEMAKER

[viral needle]

im not an ass though like if someones undergeared or does emotes i dont W key them like druid do

duos is another story unless i can tell they're new, but solos i dont attack unless im provoked or they want to duel

im all for showing newer players what i know of the game, or point them to certian rooms for quests as ive played since playtest 3

the problem with druid is the scaling like sorcerer is rn and wizard was

agility and strength scale way too hard with bear form and panther for solos 0-24, plus the druid panther head hitbox is legitimately broken, someone tested it and swords just phase right through its head like it doesnt have one

it takes 0 damage if you poke a whole longsword from the side through where its brain is, thats broken as hell

[limber dune]

Imma be real, if your playing norms, you cant be balance whining, especially about druid, that doesnt even reach half its potential in norms

[spare wedge]

Does anyone know if boss gold pile is better than regular gold pile you find say in like crypts?

[tardy jungle]

srry bro, sdf mains druid, that is not getting nerfed

[viral needle]

i want him to start playing wizard please for the love of god

[tardy jungle]

hey wiz with gear is strong

[vocal vine]

I just want him to stop hating barbarian

[limber dune]

Wizard gets crazy good with gear its probably one of the most gear dependent classes

[viral needle]

wizard needs major reworks, more utility spells rather than damage, not talking more attack spells, id just like to see him get some actual spells from D&D thats useful

[vocal vine]

Magic missile and fireball are disgusting right now

[tardy jungle]

i agree with that, sorc needs to be the strong caster, wiz needs dmg/utility

[viral needle]

stuff like being able to disable traps or maybe cast a deafening spell or something

[tardy jungle]

ive always thought wiz should be the support/anchor of a team in defense

[viral needle]

keep the spells he has rn those make sense

[slow flame]

Wiz needs some crowd control like in dnd. Think harsh terrain spells like grease, entangling vines, fog etc

[tardy jungle]

eh wiz needs to spec in elements, instead of free access to all of them, and add more spells for those elements

[limber dune]

grease would be cool especially if you or a teammate could ignite it

[viral needle]

but i think warlock needs to have the health aspect/regain removed and reworked to more eldrich spells, such as eldrich blast and focus more on the demonic form like real warlocks, In D&D warlock doesnt cast a spell then run through 3 doors recasting it and bhopping every 10 seconds

[vocal vine]

wiz shouldnt be made stronger just look at the warlord list

[slow flame]

real

[lucid heron]

What I don't get is the difference between wizard and sorcerer, like I get that sorc uses his hands but that's it? It could have been a wizard perk

[viral needle]

it would completely fix warlock honestly

[vocal vine]

sorc is sugar baby while wizard had to go to college. One is cd based the other has charges.

[limber dune]

Depends on what you mean, in DnD lore the sorc is supposed to have natural magic like he was born with it through bloodline, but Wizard is a learned spellcaster meaning they werent born with a inherent ability to spellcast he had to learn it

[viral needle]

it would make him more cast and fight/area denial with the hydra/hellfire/fire walk, warlock can already wear plate, plate warlock should be a counter to plate fighter, demon form should be whats focused for warlock as the whole thing with warlocks is they made a pact with the devil

[vocal vine]

@fallen vine They are korean and dont speak english well. Please dont fuck us.

[limber dune]

subclasses would really help imo

[idle grotto]

wizard best melee class

[lucid heron]

Yeah but as I said it could have been a wizard perk

[viral needle]

the devs need to just go play baldurs gate 3 so they can get a basic understanding of what these classes should be doing, half these classes feel out of touch with what they're supposed to be

[crimson frost]

How long ago was last wipe?

[slow flame]

It blows my mind that the warlock is so HP regen based and has no eldritch blast, hex, bound weapon or anything versatile.

[limber dune]

yeah in the current state, sorc feels like a unfinished class, hopefully they'll work on it more and wizard to differentiate between the two

[idle grotto]

btw thats how it is rn

sorc strong caster and wiz is more utility

[slow flame]

Yeah sorc needs more perks. I literally run the same 4 and only ran with 3 for a long time

[vocal vine]

changing how bows work would help some. Instead of holding a longbow for 30 seconds is not how its done irl. Most people in here couldnt even pull a 70lb draw bow let alone a 110 warbow/longbow.

[limber dune]

Yeah same with everybody else, theres even apex or no apex 2 builds

[tardy jungle]

what i didnt explain more is wiz needs its dmg lowered the higher gs, and more utility. fireballing/zapping/lightning strikes shouldn't just delete classes

[crimson frost]

😭😭😭

[viral needle]

warlock is legit supposed to cast hexs yet there arent any unless you maybe consider curse of weakness a hex, but curse of pain should not heal, i dont mind shadow touch, thats okay, but the fucking scaling on magic healing with vampirism and stacking magic power and magical healing with 5 shards is extremely broken

[slow flame]

ADD STAMINA FOR GODS SAKE

[idle grotto]

lowering wiz dmg means lowering additonal and true magic dmg i dont think they r gonna do that

[lucid heron]

There is nothing wrong with the classes dude, every game has different class principles

[cedar rapids]

Sorc dmg scaling needs to be turned down. Its insane how much dmg the spells can do even before being merged

[tardy jungle]

nah just reduce their scaling, arena showcases the meta in high gs quite well. wiz outperforms everyone

[viral needle]

please go try to find anything half the classes do in d&d besides spells, warlock doesnt work like this at all in dnd, you cant instant cast with a druid in dnd

[idle grotto]

they kinda do yeah in all aspect lmao

funny how high gs wiz is just the best melee class

[limber dune]

Ill be honest 90% of balance whine is just whatever class they last died too or couldn't kill, I know cause I do it too, everything is unbalanced when I die, and when I win everything is balanced and it was all my gigachad gaming abilities

[viral needle]

i got demigod with warlock im speaking from experience

[tardy jungle]

sorc is a bit brazy, giga geared just lightning bolt someone for half or more their hp, fire orbing for all of it, fire arrow doing 25% per shot

[viral needle]

halbred curselock is broken as all hell

[random temple]

is there a way to pause the trading post chat so you can actually look at an item ?

[tardy jungle]

no gl

[random temple]

this game is so amazing lmao

[tardy jungle]

welcome to the future old man

[keen lark]

scroll up

[viral needle]

it auto scrolls lol

[idle grotto]

demonlock + druid in normal gamemode win every fight kekw

[cedar rapids]

Like elemental spear one shotting someone cross map is already unfun but getting bullied to death by a sorc with 30+ dmg windblast/fire arrows is just sad lol

[keen lark]

oop yeah once it reaches the maximum amount of lines it continues scrolling even if you're not at the bottom rip lol

[tardy jungle]

yep, u run(get ran down) u chase(get kited and bullied until dead)

dying

[tidal star]

anyone know why my friend keeps lagging out of games? its not his internet its only dark and darker but its almost every other game he gets disconnected

[faint dove]

i get why this game is dying

[viral needle]

demon lock is fun and fair because thats how its meant to be played plus youre bleeding health the whole time demon form is active, ive been killed multiple times in it/ from exiting it too early because that damages you too, curselock is broken because of the speed and fact they're healing while having max move speed and kiting you, you usually run demon armor if you're doing a demon form build because you need the extra strength/vigor/PDR plus it slows your casting speed down so slow its just better to use phantomize or BOC instead of a spellwheel with demonarmor/form

[tardy jungle]

thanks

[idle grotto]

nono with good druid u stack +10 all

and u just run down every team u see with pure stat

[viral needle]

im talking warlock lol druid is busted as hell with its stats scaling im not even getting into that lol

[tardy jungle]

in this team game, people have healers, offsetting ur downside to the demon form

[viral needle]

see i play solos, so healers arent an issue for me, my friends quit playing when druid came out lol

[tardy jungle]

not mentioning trolls blood/pots also mitigate that

[wraith sparrow]

bruh...even with the new extended inferno time why am i loading into fucking inferno with 4 minutes already past. I literally ran through 10 modules without finding a single blue portal room and only found one on the LAST module left with a single minute to spare and no time to clear the blues so i just fuckin died

[idle grotto]

demonlock aint that broken in general but with druid its just a big issue in trio lmao when they alrdy buffed with all those stat

[marsh adder]

why tf are there people asking for a pve mode in the Q&A bruh

[wraith sparrow]

loading late into inferno should not be allowed after the first minute jesus christ

[tardy jungle]

eh depends what bracket gs ur in with demon form, managable in norms, hr is a bit troublesome

[idle grotto]

the pve in this game aint fun tbh

[marsh adder]

like I think a practice mode would be cool for bosses but bro fighting goblins is not fun

[blazing crown]

it really isnt LMAO

[tardy jungle]

you dont like getting blicked by nightmare mages?

[marsh adder]

yeah fr

[viral needle]

again i play solos so im talking from a solo perspective where curselocks and druids rules, demonform is only good with expensive ass gear in HR in solos, curselock w shards is op due to having nearly 310 movespeed and being able to kite you so fast that if youre any class in plate youre just fucked, you cant run fast enough to catch up and god forbid you didnt run weapon mastery or a crossbow when facing a curselock because theyll just run while they cook your ass alive in the plate, ive been on the receving end of warlocks plate fighter torture and its not fun lol

[marsh adder]

don't get me wrong I love my game rubberbanding into a nightmare mage barrage and instantly dying as much as the next guy but pve isn't fun right now like it could be fun I guess if they got rid of cheesing and maybe made the nightmare mobs have some cool combo fucking tripple backflip ground slam attack

[viral needle]

are you playing goblin cave? if so thats why its not fun lol

[marsh adder]

nah its just pve everything else is fun

[viral needle]

that map WAS arena before arena when it came out

[marsh adder]

anyone else love how arena had really good maps and then they removed them all and kept all the shit maps

[viral needle]

i remember the bloodbaths of 3x3 goblincave solos

[tardy jungle]

pve is nonexistent once you learn how to dark and darker

[marsh adder]

yeah pve means nothing but thats why its not fun

[idle grotto]

fighter into warlock is never fun

[marsh adder]

I literally only die to pve when my game either lags or I jump on a spider while running and get launched into the guy I am running from

[viral needle]

i like the pve honestly, yes its simple and easy but it reminds me of old games such as kings field, honestly if you go look up kingsfield its legit just this game

[tardy jungle]

ye im in agreement, pve is bad and pvp is ratting/stat checking/ranged

[idle grotto]

but its addicting

[marsh adder]

yeah the only skillful melee weapons are like longsword zweihander and like thats it

[viral needle]

longsword is not skillful at all

[marsh adder]

what?

[tardy jungle]

i love heater arming sword fighter, blocking in the game feels rewarding when im fighting melee classes, esp true dmg stackers so i can cancel their onslaught of bs

[viral needle]

its legit let me bait for a parry so i can one hit them

[vocal vine]

holding right click to 1-2 shot people that are significantly more geared tha you is not skillful.

[viral needle]

thats not skill having a one tap button, the zweihander does take skill, the longsword is a crutch weapon

[marsh adder]

ok but its extremely hard to parry in the first place dawg I mean just for a starter you have to learn and know every single weapon attack pattern

[spark skiff]

oh rejoice ive finally killed an enemy player and it was a druid attacking a fellow warlock no less

[viral needle]

its not at all you aim, if you have eyeballs and working hands and fingers you can parry

[marsh adder]

brother all you have to do is walk up to a longsword user and look inside them and its literally impossible to parry

[tardy jungle]

thats true, if u got the hours and understanding of the game, longsword comes pretty natural if u know where to aim

[marsh adder]

yeah I have like 400 hours on longsword and I would get shit on every single time I went for a parry until I got good at it

[vocal vine]

its not difficult to parry literally aim the last 3rd of the blade in the general direction of oncoming attacks.

[viral needle]

the whole blade can parry now

[tardy jungle]

i think longsword is really more of a gamble of desync/if player knows how to get around it

[marsh adder]

use longsword bro

[vocal vine]

it can but last 3rd of blade is most consistent

[viral needle]

this is why rondel and stiletto fighter destroys, goodluck parrying, started running daggers after i realized your crutch doesnt work on them

[vocal vine]

just run dglee and only do the first attack

[marsh adder]

if you are fighting someone that just walks up to you and looks inside of you like you literally can't parry

[viral needle]

brother i got like 20 gold rn the chruch has robbed me blind

[tardy jungle]

true if they drag swing into body u cant do much, need a bunch of ms and kiting knowledge to make it hit blade

[marsh adder]

yeah of course daggers do more dps than almost every 2 hander so no dingus I would lose unless I gear diff insanely hard

[vocal vine]

you can still catch a weapon after it hits you longsword is dumb af.

[marsh adder]

bro watch oogiesons vids he literally slows down footage of weapons going straight through the blade

[viral needle]

well not moreso dps im more talking the blade is so small good luck parrying it or blocking it without a shield

[glass cape]

When is the season end / next wipe?

[tardy jungle]

never we're stuck in rat meta

[marsh adder]

yeah I know but thats the whole thing like you can't parry it and it out dps you so of course you would lose a fight against a rondel dagger fighter if you have a longsword

[vocal vine]

and if it does place the blade in the direction of the end of the attack animation. you can catch the enemyweapon this way hope this helps in 2 shotting.

[marsh adder]

I do agree that longsword does a little much damage but saying its unskillful is wild

[viral needle]

felling axe fighter is peak, just hugging someone with sprint and bashing their health away

[idle grotto]

i feel like the mastery comes from hitting the parry as in the counter attack

ppl that play this game for a while alrdy know how manuver through your parry

[marsh adder]

it takes game knowledge and skill to parry consistently

[tardy jungle]

know whats better? double axe fighter, true bis

[vocal vine]

dglee is bis

[viral needle]

too slow tho, if you build dex and strength like dark souls you just destroy due to how fast you hit

[tardy jungle]

i did both in arena, and both felt awful lmao

[marsh adder]

you also can hit a parry and still get hit

[limber jolt]

Skill expression.......lol

[marsh adder]

alr I am done getting overly heated I am just dragging it at this point but yeah idk I put alot of time into longsword and I was ass at it until like 300 or so hours so clearly it has alot to do with skill

[vocal vine]

same with shields if part of you is poking out and weapon strikes shield you still get bonked. right click isnt cruise control for winning sweetheart.

[idle grotto]

it does longsword is pretty shitty on the higher end btw

[tardy jungle]

thats because people dont melee at higher end

[idle grotto]

ppl melee but its just rapier/dagger mostly and barb (i mean thats kinda their only weapon)

[tardy jungle]

if they do, its all stabbing weapons

[viral needle]

im talkin dungeon lol, chasing solos down in hallways, religion has legit bankrupted me to the point id only be able to play arena in squire gear, i spent all my money sold all my gearm i dont really boss as continous dungeon made that hell, so i only had about 87k saved up, spent that all on religion and now i have nothing so ive just been farming expensive shit on ruins/gobbo caves, thank god spider silk is still 1k

[manic garnet]

the game installed a virus into svchost

[marsh adder]

delete weapon mastery bruh

[tardy jungle]

disgusting lol

[viral needle]

how? where the hell did you download it to do that?

[marsh adder]

add specific weapon mastery like recurve bow mastery or smth

[manic garnet]

steam

[tardy jungle]

agreed, remove the femboys from the class and bring back sns and ls chads

[marsh adder]

fr

[viral needle]

are you sure it was this game and not something else, i really doubt this game installed a virus on your pc

[tardy jungle]

did you try to find that local milf 20 miles away?

[marsh adder]

dark and darker???

[manic garnet]

yes

[viral needle]

lol

[marsh adder]

and why would they do that? so they lose all their reputation for what your passwords yeah thats cap

[manic garnet]

dm me i can dm u ss of my taskmanger and bs

[viral needle]

he tried getting the pregnant goblin skin early

[marsh adder]

hmm

[vocal vine]

@minor fractal sdf hates barbarians and wants to see the hope leave our eyes.

[tardy jungle]

lmao, should've waited for the sdf vision special

[idle grotto]

dont you think thats probably the anticheat although im not too sure

i read somewhere kernel type anticheat seems to do that sort of thing

[minor fractal]

and he also fucking LOVES casters/rangers

[manic garnet]

i thought so at first aswell but why would it be installed into my svc host be unistallable espically considering i havent played since the 17th and have the game uninstalled

[vocal vine]

yup

[viral needle]

he hates wizard tho

[idle grotto]

did you run a virus scan alrdy

[marsh adder]

I highly doubt it was dark and darker that did that if its true I mean no one else has claimed this and I doubt you are so special that they would risk their entire brand for 1 guys passwords/bank account

[vocal vine]

Magic missile only gets beat by rogue cutt throat and panther silence. Seems like your loved by choi.

[lucid heron]

True

[manic garnet]

yes it was flagged as maleware

[tardy jungle]

they need that thc special recipe

[minor fractal]

wizard needs gear to be good, and when it has gear, its extremely fucking strong

[viral needle]

i want a wizard rework im not talkin current wizard, wizard has been shown no love

[idle grotto]

i've seen ppl complain about dark and darker virus before this is like the 2nd time alrdy so im abit suspicious

[lucid heron]

In starting to think that there are haters sent by Nexon here, guys be hating on anything

[manic garnet]

it was dark and darker the things under something named "tavern" and some people had this happen a year ago i seen on steam communitys

[marsh adder]

ahh that yeah so idk what that is

[idle grotto]

oh no no no its the fruit of sdf hard work hence there is so many hate lmao

[tardy jungle]

what kind of science do you perform

[viral needle]

point me to any new wizard perks besides staff mastery that have been added to wizard since the game came out, please ill wait

[lucid heron]

Black science

[marsh adder]

I do think its a real thing but its likely not a virus

[idle grotto]

yeah same thing i heard tho many kinda dismiss it as anticheat dude so im not sure

[tardy jungle]

the dark art?

[vocal vine]

Wizard is strong. Look at warlord list.

[lucid heron]

It's like black magic but more vague

[viral needle]

dude wizard is a utility character that has less spells than sorcerer, and even less utility spells than damage dealing ones, no utility perks

[idle grotto]

wizard is strong af mate lmao

[lucid heron]

Aka quantum physics

[marsh adder]

true asf

[vocal vine]

Ok but look at the fucking list. It is objectively strong if it has the most warlords.

[tardy jungle]

sorry i dont have high enough knowledge to understand, im fighter main

[idle grotto]

if u do solo try melee wiz and i shit you not u can win stat agaisnt barbarian

[manic garnet]

would anyone mind checking their task manager and seeing if they have a " Service host: TavernComm_1_1

[lucid heron]

Guys nearly made me quit the game before I even started but the game is pretty good

[lean crescent]

nexon got their paycheck, why would they need to do that

[minor fractal]

i got a challange for you, play barbarian and try to get close/kill a experienced wizard player

[tardy jungle]

bruh just get some anticheat removing program, and dont look for ur local milf ok

[marsh adder]

yeah fucking nexon spies buffing barb every patch as well

[lucid heron]

They want the game shut down bro

[manic garnet]

u cant remove it from svc host otherwise i woulda like all the other virus from milfs i get

[vocal vine]

Bro barb was decent for a week and then the cry babies came out in force.

[idle grotto]

yes i do have it

[lean crescent]

people will call barb op but insist on not playing it while refusing to elaborate

[viral needle]

thats not what im saying, yall are legit ignoring what im saying, im saying wizard should be more utility focused that damage dealing focused, please stop ignoring what im saying to try and tell me wizard stronk yess i understand that, im talking i want wizard to be able to do more utility wize than just haste and light orb

[opal patrol]

i prefer my thc apple

[minor fractal]

it was just a bit better against melee classes, still got fucked by anything with range

[lean crescent]

i think wizard has enough utility as it is right now

[vocal vine]

I want barb to be an actual character before the strongest character gets shit that lets you lock doors.

[idle grotto]

how much more do you want lmao

there light orb, ignite, haste,invis, and slow if u 10 spell wiz

[marsh adder]

I agree

[vocal vine]

I aint gonna lie 50 AS barb with warmaul in the middle of enemies and mobs fucked for 12 seconds.

[minor fractal]

4 arrows from longbow and you are dead, or 2 fireballs

[marsh adder]

barb is strong because it has no counters really

[idle grotto]

ice bolt also slows ppl (abit) and any fire spell is anti healing

[lean crescent]

W rage bait

[sullen root]

I as a wizard main agree we need more spells!

[viral needle]

a trap disabling spell, maybe take away some of the damage spells and magic lock to give more spells that can maybe make a shrine regen a bit faster as theyre magic, they should have a bit more magic resistance but less physical resistance

[marsh adder]

not even I mean if you just run iron will rage and achillies with decent movespeed you don't really have any counters

[vocal vine]

Ya i never care about people faster than me, phant, dreamwalk, any bow, any true damage, longswrd or lanternshield.

[sullen root]

You can just jump icebolt and you have no slow bcs you carry the momentum

[marsh adder]

you can runn 330 with felling axe out plus achillies

[lean crescent]

ok counter point, every class in the game counters barb as long as you have decent skill

[minor fractal]

@vocal vine LOL

[vocal vine]

and get outboxed by fighter, cleric bard or still outranged by anyone with ranged. Whats your point?

[viral needle]

on off would be a cool spell as you could turn all the torches off or on in an area

[idle grotto]

@manic garnet
"I had the Same Problem, I uninstalled D&D on Epic and the TavernComms.1.1 was still on my task manager, I fixed it by going to windows Settings: Apps $ Features and Looking for Dark and Darker Tavern Worker and uninstalled it there and that fixed my problem, hope yours gets fixed 2" (i got this on reddit)

[minor fractal]

hes ragebaiting, dont even bother

[marsh adder]

nah its funny cuz I am actually not

[vocal vine]

you right gaben guy doesnt have a brain

[tardy jungle]

honestly just remove lantern shield, and nerf the support class called bard

[marsh adder]

barb with high ms and action speed is busted with war maul you kill fighters, clerics, rouges, and every other class

[viral needle]

like when i say wizard rework i dont mean make it stronger i mean make it weaker but give it more utility, wizards are NOT frontline magic damage dealers, that should be sorcerer, wizard has and should always be utility

[vocal vine]

i have a 50 AS build for arena and i can tell you thats wrong.

[lean crescent]

Yea its a shame that barbs are the only class that you can actually equip items on

[marsh adder]

I am talking purely solos

[minor fractal]

clerics 3 tap you with smite, fighters have cap pdr, rogues can facetank barbs

[vocal vine]

solos we get kited all day

[idle grotto]

rogue can facetank everyone and win tbh

[marsh adder]

has anyone run barb in solos at all this wipe? like I have and I kill every single class

[viral needle]

i have and i die if people play smart

[tardy jungle]

just deny the barb the melee fight, range him out and kite

[vocal vine]

yes i got pathfinder and got tired of ranger and rogue bullshit. play arena to vanq and have some fun at least

[sullen root]

Barb is countered by druid ranger maybe wiz if he is rly good by fighter if pdr by cleric if no spell caster judgment cleric and maybe sorc good against him too if he has iron will he is good tho

[marsh adder]

if you are half decent and can space with the war maul you win against every melee class and if you just have a hatchet you have 330 ms with weapon out

[tardy jungle]

throwing knives/crossbows/bows/spells ezpz

[viral needle]

bring back old goblin caves as a f4a map with respawns like arena, that would let yall do that

[marsh adder]

you can outrun the kite classes and you can out melee the melee classes again all I am saying is barb doesn't have a single hard counter

[sullen root]

For war maul you need a lot of skill

[vocal vine]

I have 2x barbs in vanq. What you are saying is false.

[idle grotto]

warlock

[marsh adder]

not really but if you are skilled then war maul is very strong

[idle grotto]

i mean imma be real barb is only strong in goblin cave cuz tight space lmao

try that shit in any other map ur getting kited to death

[opal patrol]

zwei and war maul are not good unless u can accel or drag

[marsh adder]

yes you have 330 ms with weapon out I mean literally right after phantom is gone they are dead. Like seriously have any of you ran a high ms high action speed barb build at all this wipe?

[sullen root]

Yes I agree but it’s hard to get that good on warmaul and you can still shot him as fighter or do any ranged or just shield his warmaul

[tardy jungle]

i can list some hard counters of barb, pdr fighter, divine prot cleric, good ranger, good wizard

[viral needle]

add spell limit to warlock with the health drain on casting

[marsh adder]

fighter gets 3 tapped by war maul same with cleric and ranger again you have 330 ms with hatchet out plus achillies so no

[lean crescent]

warmauul is -50 ms... either you're paper or you're running a 40k kit

[minor fractal]

cloth armor clerics can 3 tap barbs and not even lose half hp with divine prot LOL

[quasi marten]

when does arena open

[vocal vine]

bard thats mid geared with shriek any druid

[marsh adder]

no you just switch to hatchet when there is a kite class fighting you

[idle grotto]

cleric>barb blud

[vocal vine]

and get blasted by bhopping ragned class cuz you dont have shield gg

[lean crescent]

wdym kite class, every class is a kite class

[sullen root]

You can have shield

[tardy jungle]

fighters getting three tapped is false, get in close to the sour spot with 2nd wind running and box his shit, the archer vs ms barb means the ms barb is squish bc he got all this ms, so two well placed arrows makes that barb wonder if this is really worth

[marsh adder]

you must be really bad at the game because I out space and dodge every single cleric I have come across with war maul

[vocal vine]

not with hatchet out silly

[lean crescent]

i swear some people have opinions like they have perma 330 or esp

[opal patrol]

shield giga barbarian is ur worst nightmare

[marsh adder]

nah you only really need like 305 to 310 ms and you are good

[idle grotto]

i feel like ur just super biased and just baiting lmao im done

[tardy jungle]

also if the barb manages to space out and get you in sweet spot range, just block activate counter attack and run away to do it again

[lean crescent]

he is baiting

[sullen root]

Still a lot of good barbs take a shield with them and hotswap to hatchet like dimo for example silly

[opal patrol]

200 + health with a shield and a horseman? u gotta have no hands to fk that one up

[marsh adder]

I main barb gang

[vocal vine]

hotswap is an unintentional bug otherwise why would we have manual dex silly.

[marsh adder]

I main barb fighter wiz rouge and I play the other classes sometimes

[tardy jungle]

i dont like talking 1v1s because this is a team game after all, and sdf said he would balance for that. but 1v1 wise barb is just ok

[modest flower]

how long until season 5 ends guys

[vocal vine]

arena rank on barb?

[idle grotto]

i can confidently say any class with dagger will win agaisnt you

[marsh adder]

bro I solo queue

[lean crescent]

wizard dagger

[vocal vine]

ok so arena rank on barb is what mr god at barb?

[sullen root]

Same as bhob or jump before action and everyone is using that silly just get gud

[idle grotto]

very high chance of winning actually

melee wiz are tanky and shred your pdr

[marsh adder]

2k

[vocal vine]

send the pic i dont believe you

[marsh adder]

how?? 2k isn't crazy no

[lean crescent]

with a spell book or ball sure, but i just like the imagery of a naked wizard using a dagger vs naked barb with whatever wep xD

[idle grotto]

thats just dumb

[vocal vine]

and your supposed to be slowed but unintentional bug prevents.

[sullen root]

That’s how the game is get over it

[vocal vine]

You seem like a 900 rank kinda guy. i can smell it on ya.

[lean crescent]

ik but the premise was any class with dagger, so i held it strictly to that. A class with JUST dagger

[sullen root]

Not using it and blaming people for doing it is not the best decision

[idle grotto]

btw try melee wiz for once instead of always saying magic missile is op btw that shit is damn good

[marsh adder]

I can send my ranks for my classes just gimme a second I gotta launch the game

[tardy jungle]

thats cause all the daggers is created with gnome fluid

[opal patrol]

panther druid is busted i just started playing it

[vocal vine]

So you know its good.

[idle grotto]

u look really smackable in the head rn fr

[marsh adder]

wait I think its my fighter that I have 2k rating on

[cedar rapids]

Its fair and balanced Ill have you know

[lean crescent]

ill steal your nose ong, dont make me do it

[idle grotto]

nah ill pluck all your hair out before u do that

[marsh adder]

I have 1900 on my rouge aswell

solo queue is so painful

[fresh plinth]

is the game volume super low for yall too??

[vocal vine]

Lil bro has 1600 on barb and thinks hes hot shit why aint you killing everyone and being warlord @marsh adder

[marsh adder]

nah I don't

[vocal vine]

bro barb is so op just go get warlord in 5 minutes lol

[idle grotto]

try fire wizard btw shit is amazing

rondel+mana sphere

ignite fireball nd u can cook ppl in melee with extra 30 hp from perk and skill

[blazing crown]

LMAO the first thing i did in a GC kill myself and spec players AND WHAT DO I SEE. 6 people sharing the pile and gold ore

[marsh adder]

I never said I was good and I solo queue only and I never said I was warlord ever

[viral needle]

arena score isnt everything guys, this game is a dungeon crawler pvpve game not rainbow six siege

[vocal vine]

ok bro i get it you want me to bonk. I play barb and fighter for that im just dishing out hate on people who have shit on me with true damage with mm.

[lean crescent]

the game isnt a dungeon crawler, the game is find a corner in the dungeon and hide in it simulator

[idle grotto]

nah u always saying mm is too good now let me introduce you to the next one

[vocal vine]

you said earlier first game you played was hr and you killed the whole lobby or some shit

[marsh adder]

what no that was the ocord oid guy

[viral needle]

it used to be bring back mixed team numbers thatll stop real fast when a trio rolls in on that solo landmine rouge

[vocal vine]

Ya your alt account

[marsh adder]

bro I was argueing with him

[idle grotto]

melee wiz bonk fighter and barb fr

unless lad

[lean crescent]

even now the rats outnumber the real players. party fill basically lets you solo qeuue into trios anywayws

[vocal vine]

Listen im evil enough as is. Yes i agree bonk wiz more often than not smacks around fighter and barb.

[idle grotto]

lmao

[lean crescent]

nah you gotta cosplay rogue as ranger, hit that rapier hand crossbow with crossbow mastery

[vocal vine]

sounds like actual garbage sir

[viral needle]

most trio duo games i play are bloodbaths, take the autofill away, let people use the gathering hall or having friends to play with people, bring back all teams in the dungeon that would fix most of the landmine issues, i dont think 3 rouges are going to outmatch most skilled teams

[lean crescent]

you're doing mental damage to enemies not real damage

[lean crescent]

there are alot more than 3 rogues in most lobbies i assure you, and i dont care about landmine. Im talking about the esp rogues/druids that literally just finds a corner to hide in and wait for close to the end of the game to scoop up the bodies

[marsh adder]

last hr solo game I played the entire lobby was rouges

[viral needle]

i meant in the aspect of running into a team in crypts, if solos duos and trios were mixed, there would be less landmines

[vocal vine]

and you had to walk uphill both ways and beat off dinosaurs right?

[tribal yoke]

Must of been bad rogues if you saw all of them

[lean crescent]

Brinigng back mixed lobbies would be a nightmare cause right now the rat issues are bad enough with solos queuing into trios to rat

[opal patrol]

hahahaha good one

[marsh adder]

I extracted instantly because it seemed like a dead lobby and then was spectating

[marsh adder]

mixed lobbies would suck for duo and solo players

just delete the game at this point gg

[lean crescent]

Finally a good take from you

[marsh adder]

alright bro come on I had atleast 1

[viral needle]

run, thats how they game was, you arent supposed to be king arthur rolling over peasants, you actually had to gauge fights, guess if they were solo duo or trio and their team was behind them in the previous room, remove market too for gear, all gear is found in dungeon or crafted or bought from merchants

the marketplace is what actually ruined this game

[marsh adder]

ok now your just trolling I mean I could see mixed dungeons being kinda okay but removing the marketplace is such a bad take imo

[viral needle]

it blocked my message wow, well there were no people farming stuff for real money when marketplace wasnt a thing

thats why you run into so many foreign accounts on NA servers who all team and farm pile

[marsh adder]

ahh that makes sense but it would be annoying not being able to sell anything or buy kits

[lean crescent]

I assure you that predates the marketplace

[viral needle]

marketplace is what made it so bad though

[lean crescent]

Lack of consequence is what made it so bad

I say keep banning the RMTs but smack the hammer down on the people buying

[viral needle]

before you had no way to trade or anything except actually joining the player and getting a blue or buying a whole account, that too, but market place made it so it didnt matter you lost that purple falchion you found, who cares just go buy another, gear actually meant something, when you found BIS, IT WAS BIS

[lean crescent]

Yea cause sitting in the trading channel waiting for a item with your rolls was so great

[marsh adder]

yeah idk I already hate spending 2 hours trying to sell an artifact for a fair price

[viral needle]

if you played you found stuff, it actually made the loot have value, it made you think about taking fights where you'd get more gear for yourself or die and lose yours and have to work all over again

ontop of that bring back random portals, honestly just revert the game back to playtest 3

[lean crescent]

Ok thats great, you can still do that as solo self found on your own.

But as someone who enjoys running gear into geared lobbies, i rather deal with the chinese gold farmers instead of having to sit in trade channel for hours looking for a item that fits my set.

[marsh adder]

agreed

[lucid tide]

Preset maps are nice early on for questing but feels just bad past that, so many factors from reds to bosses

[marsh adder]

random portals are cool tho

[viral needle]

keep the random maps, bring back playtest 3s mechanics of how the game worked

[hallow condor]

druids play like little pppppppppp in this game

[marsh adder]

I feel like most people wouldn't like this change but idk

I think random portals is cool tho I would also like to see random enemy possitions in modules

[viral needle]

let me load into a tavern and be able to see my opponants, let me actually have the sense of a solo working with a duo to take down a 3 man just to backstab the duo when they were looting, this game lost its identity, its just oo let me farm gold for hours then just buy bis kits and roll people, no one PLAYS they game anymore, they just play it for pvp, yes the pvp is fun, but the game was never just a pvp game, the wyvern literally was suppost to be a boss you teamed up with other teams to do, nobody loots anymore, you just kill them and they have health pots and gear from others, theres no fun in getting that rare item and then using it, even if it had shitty rolls you used it because it was the best you had, now you have everything at your fingertips, no risk of encountering 3 mans, or duos, no risk of losing that much gear you spent time getting because there was no market it was YOUR GEAR, no squire, you just got a base kit, weapon mastery only worked if you found weapons, it would remove mana orb demon glee as they'd have to find or craft them

[ocean eagle]

Has there been testing recently where players in tier 1 HR have been ending up in HR tier 2? how would we even know?
i go into tier 1 high roller often to farm AP and i have recently been running into player with 450+ gear score constantly. They are wearing full built kits that are all crafting purple items and even legendary.
When i leave the dungeon or die, it seems like half the players are VERY VERY geared. At first i dismissed this as players find gear or kill other players and wear more gear. But its begining to be a bit too many players with too much gear.

[viral needle]

the game attracted so many people because it was that, thats why people complain, it lost the magic the playtests had of being a SIMPLE loot extraction game

[topaz lintel]

the game has to evolve dude

[frank dagger]

when wipe

[lean crescent]

I'm gonna be honest, i think youre still held up some fun interactions that you've had in the past game but you cant expect the game to regress just so you can have fun like you did in the past.

[viral needle]

i want it too i just think they need to reinstate the element of gear fear and not having everything at your fingertips and not having an instant red or blue to go down

gear fear was a big part of this game as EVERYTHING was found

[tribal yoke]

Had that, caused targeting. You want more teaming opportunities and also more betrayal. I disagree in thinking the game wasn’t supposed to be a pvp, it is a pvpve with the elements of dungeons and dragons.

[topaz lintel]

gear fear just promotes sitting in corners and not actually playing the game for half the playerbase

[lean crescent]

theres still gear fear, but now that gear fear is from knowing the value of your kits and not taking risk to do that. Thats why gear fear is people just camping exit now

[plain nacelle]

anyone in OCE know what happened to all the players its empty out here

[topaz lintel]

its not empty just full of chinese people mining ore

[viral needle]

is oce the new ap grinding server?

[marsh adder]

probably like 3 to 4 weeks from now

[cedar rapids]

Any other people struggeling with rubberbanding in just this game?

[marsh adder]

can someone use their question in the Q&A to ask for solo and duo arena I already used mine

[lucid tide]

What should i take gear wise if i want to keep em around 300 gold on bard for shenanigans on hr?

[viral needle]

cant wait for 1v1 plate fighter riposte duels lol

[marsh adder]

thats what I want bro

so badly

[viral needle]

go play mordhau lol

[vocal vine]

@fluid canopy sdf hates barbarians stop hes just gonna nerf us if you mention us.

We have been shit on enough dont make him shit on us more.

[topaz lintel]

the devs dont want solo anything in this game

[hearty steppe]

hi, i started for the first time in HR but on 4 games i found 0 people, where i need to go for pvp? there was nobody on boss or mid of goblin cave

[nimble halo]

youre probably in the rookie lobbys. you most likely will never see pvp unless theirs chinnese farmers on.

[marsh adder]

that would be odd considering there already is solos and solos is the most popular mode

[viral needle]

i wish lol i wish i could do cyclops or troll alone for the easy AP take advantage of that

[marsh adder]

I mainly want duo arena anyways like that would be so fun not just for parrying

[hearty steppe]

im a longsword player i never did a boss

[viral needle]

watch a few videos on them and take a few cracks at em in normals, cyclops is the easiest boss in the game if you learn his moveset

[hearty steppe]

ok will try later

[vocal vine]

gk seems easiest to me

[hearty steppe]

i just dont understand how to stop the rocks who fall of the top

[marsh adder]

you just gotta do enough damage to him and then he will stop

[hearty steppe]

oh ok ty

[viral needle]

ive only done cyclops, ik some are easier for longsword players though so that'd probably be someone elses expertise

[cedar rapids]

During the phase you can see shadows form on the ground where the rocks will fall. During the phase you just sidestep those while also hitting him until he stops

[hearty steppe]

yeah i was just dodging and waiting ^^

[viral needle]

isnt lich easy for longsword players if you get his moveset down?

ive seen people do it in a minute with all riposts

[hearty steppe]

i play 90% of my game in goblin cave cuz all time i change i just be kite by a ranger

[topaz lintel]

the game is not designed for solos never has been and devs have always said they dont want it to be for solos , so much so they are removing it eventually and focusing on team play.

[digital phoenix]

anyone else crash?

[viral needle]

thatll be an issue as most players are solos lol

[topaz lintel]

they dont care

[digital phoenix]

payment verification failed too so im assuming its not just me again?

[jovial spindle]

L dead game

[digital phoenix]

pretty sure server went down

[viral needle]

they will when most players stop playing and 2/3rds of the playerbase leaves

[hearty steppe]

i find a guy who did the cyclop in 30sec it's posible??

[viral needle]

if you stack enough damage yeah

[hearty steppe]

he is no stuff

[cedar rapids]

You can kill most bosses pretty quick if you know how to. Especially in trios the combined dmg enables you to just skip over phases in some boss fights. Mainly during the lich/ghost king and cyclops fights

[hearty steppe]

it's a solo guy with 0 stuff

[modest flower]

game down ?

[marsh adder]

that would be an awful decision for the game most of the playerbase are solo players

[marsh adder]

yes they do they will lose alot of money of course they care

[cedar rapids]

With longsword or warlock it might be possible that fast. Im not that up to date. Or you misjudged the time

[marsh adder]

anyways can you show me where sdf said he was going to remove solos?

[hearty steppe]

we can send link here?

[cedar rapids]

You should be able to if its a medal link or similar

[toxic sand]

how many times do i have to kill wyvern in order to drop artifact? In the past 3 days i killed him about 16 times and still 0 artifacts dropped.

[hearty steppe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F9qZYLpzgE

[cedar rapids]

The drop chance is around 1% or similar

[cedar rapids]

Yes thats possible. But thats also troll not cyclops

[hearty steppe]

oh i tought

[buoyant terrace]

this game is dying, i hope we get some better clone asap

[lucid tide]

Ok question, is it possible to pull off the same strat with lantern shield?

[primal plover]

aint gonna happen

[cedar rapids]

I havent seen anyone try it so idk

[lucid tide]

Welp time to find out, spacing with bard will be atleast easier then cleric

[placid lintel]

Just got out of a game where they whole lobby except for me was teaming and my instant replay wasnt on so I didnt get the video to report with...

[topaz lintel]

you can go back and watch a bunch of the tarvern talks and devblogs to see the direction they always wanted the game to go.

[sturdy coral]

always? They’ve changed the direction of the game no less than 3 times until settling on this one

[topaz lintel]

well im talking about something specifically which will impact the general direction in the long run

[lucid tide]

That guy is insane, the 135 degree crouch parry is just style points at predicting his overhead slam, he grinded the shit out of this boss

Actually wait, thats the charged attack ripost, damn i love this replay

[marsh adder]

doesn't really matter what they want they would lose so much money it literally would make no sense to do so

[topaz lintel]

sense has nothing to do with it

[marsh adder]

alrightttt so we are rage baiting

0/10 rage bait that shit didn't fool anyone bruh

[cedar rapids]

They already went back on decisions that were disliked by the majority of the playerbase so the only thing it depends on is how big the playerbase reaction to it would be

[topaz lintel]

you can cope and dismiss it by saying its rage bait if you want. you must be new and not watched any of the tavern talks or watched any devblogs

[sturdy coral]

the explored removing solos and duos at some point, to consolidate everything. This was not taken very far, since they added solos and duos they have been popular modes

[marsh adder]

I mean its funny that you are dragging this so far its the most obvious rage bait in the universe

[topaz lintel]

whatever helps you sleep at night 😉

[marsh adder]

ok

[silent geyser]

Let's delete Ranger and cut the fingers off of the ones who play it

[marsh adder]

how about we just delete the game at this point

[cedar rapids]

Buff druid

[small vault]

I'm watching a video of this game from 2 years ago and it looks so much more fun and 10x less sweaty

[marsh adder]

yeah because everyone sucked

[small vault]

And now I'm the only one who sucks and getting absolutely bombed

[topaz lintel]

just play in lower bracket if u dont want to sweat

[silent geyser]

Would be ok with that as well, or sell it to someone else

[marsh adder]

true

[small vault]

Like lower gear score?

[marsh adder]

play squire lobbies is what he is saying

[small vault]

I didn't know squires and legendaries play in different lobbies

[topaz lintel]

bruh

[silent geyser]

Erm...lower is still sweaty lmao

[marsh adder]

if you are a bot I guess

[marsh adder]

everytime I play squire I wipe at least 8 people everyone is really bad in squire

[small vault]

I dont even have a legendary account 😎

[marsh adder]

just letting you know the game is kind of like a demo without legendary

[topaz lintel]

how? i made like 100 free legendary accounts when it was free on epic games a little while ago

[small vault]

I didnt play while it was free

[marsh adder]

unlucky

[topaz lintel]

that sux , you missed out on free legendary

[small vault]

Not missing out on much anyway cuz I rarely play without friends

[silent geyser]

No one has the gear diff lol

[marsh adder]

fr

[topaz lintel]

whats friends got to do with legendary

[small vault]

Nothing

[marsh adder]

he probably doesn't have friends with legendary

[topaz lintel]

ooh

[silver smelt]

is this true that druids animal forms are capped to 315ms?

[idle grotto]

Yes

[small vault]

What am I missing out on without legendary anyway besides trading and HR?

[marsh adder]

thats about it but trading is a major part in the fun of the game

[idle grotto]

Ur pretty much just missing out on making fun builds and arena

[silent geyser]

Panther chicken laughs at your MS cap

[small vault]

So I'm not missing out on much exactly

[topaz lintel]

i mean if you can still have fun just playing squire games over and over then thats fine, you probably dont need legendary. i dont know how anyone survives without being able to sell stuff properly on the market or go hunting for higher tier gear on HR tho.

[idle grotto]

Gear build is a big part of the game but ok

[silent geyser]

Arena usually sucks tho so he isn't really missing out

[keen lark]

Having multiple classes is the main thing tbh. trading is nice for makin cash moneys, and HR is important for some. im not a fan of arena so meh

[marsh adder]

no you are like you can't do geared runs which is the main part of the game

[woeful wren]

Main thing with legendary is having multiple chars

[topaz lintel]

ive never loaded into an arena game even once and i still think having no legendary status makes the game pretty much pointless lol

[woeful wren]

Most of the playerbase doesnt even do geared runs most of the time as is xD 24 remains the most played.

[idle grotto]

Ur honestly just playing squire with no legendaries so ye

[idle grotto]

Doesnt mean they shouldnt do geared runs

[small vault]

So the only thing I see useful with legendary is that I can make multiple characters, everything else feels pointless

[silent geyser]

I mean yes and no. If they like just pvp and looting and doesn't care about being some crazy min maxed person to get some crap rewards from HR then 124s are plenty of fun to justify a free game as a casual

[woeful wren]

The main strenght of legendary to any player regardless of skillevel, is having chars of any class you want without deletion. And the shared stash.

[idle grotto]

I mean if thats what you feel then ok ig

[marsh adder]

I mean I don't min max my gear I just really like fair pvp fights but yeah

[topaz lintel]

just enjoy it then, no need to force yourself to pay for legendary.

[teal jetty]

what stat can up regen of spell in X sit position?

[woeful wren]

True 24 is the most balanced version of the game

[idle grotto]

Lmfao no

[keen lark]

knowledge increases spell recovery while sitting, but it's not by a MASSIVE amount

[topaz lintel]

kinda, since there is nothing to balance in 24's 😄

[woeful wren]

You say that but everyday i see HR people or higher gearscore peeps complaining about every class in the game.

[silent geyser]

High gear PvP is awfully balanced and just a gear diff and less of a skill diff. So if that doesn't sound fun to someone then 124 and lower is plenty

[marsh adder]

thats what I used to think but then I got legendary and I changed my mind but yeah if you like the game now then no need to get it

[idle grotto]

Sub 224 is pretty aite in trios 225+ is where real issue start bro

[teal jetty]

ok thx bro

[woeful wren]

Sub 224 is rat city and pre-teamer town, no ty

[marsh adder]

yeah true but rouge is so bad in 24s you do actually no damage

[topaz lintel]

free accounts can still buy stash pages right?

[small vault]

Ye

[idle grotto]

Play trios mate

(Every gamemode is rat city)

[woeful wren]

Rogue in 24's will till melt anyone and anybody if you pull the ambush off, if you play duos-trios its even easier. Keep in mind the game isnt balanced for solos.

[idle grotto]

Idk when it hasnt been rat city

[safe falcon]

tommorow we are going to hve a patch?

[silent geyser]

Sub 224 is mostly sorcs, Ranger, and druid tho since you can wear PIS and still kill everyone. Like a blue Longbow will just dump on people, sorc is sorc, and druid can giga gear since they can bring squire weps to save gs

[marsh adder]

I mean yeah but I have been playing fighter in squire to farm spec knight and I remember a rouge hitting me I think 6 or 7 times and I still had like a quarter of my health left

[woeful wren]

Well in all fairness the rogue has to actually hit your head and have decent perks.

[topaz lintel]

and he looked at you thinking "am i a joke to you?"

[keen lark]

lot of squire rogues just dont understand strength so they have like -15% base dmg

[marsh adder]

true

[teal jetty]

paladin tomorrow and necromancer lmao

[woeful wren]

Gotta get that armor pen, ruptuire is good, poison is nice, pen's better but poison can be good for poking, specially in teams.

[marsh adder]

about how it went down

[safe falcon]

next year you mean lol

[marsh adder]

necromancer could be cool but I feel like it would be kinda bad

[woeful wren]

If they add a summoner class we all know its gonna be "get stuck in a doorway build"

[keen lark]

necromancer is just too narrow of a theme for a class tbh, anything you could add to necro could just be a warlock thing

[topaz lintel]

they shouldn't even add any classes anymore imho, people will just complain about them and the dev team isnt capable of balancing them either.

[woeful wren]

Oh yeah prob the summons will get kited and what not, a necromancer sounds like a pure stalling class, maybe with some disease-dot damage stuff.

[silent geyser]

Lemme get patch #69 back

[marsh adder]

I think they should finish monk tho

[topaz lintel]

dont you dare start that shiiii again

[woeful wren]

"Narrow theme" Barbarian: Unga bunga

[silent geyser]

Peak PvP in 69.5

[idle grotto]

You can still beat ppl as fighter cleric bard and etc with the right team comp

They are not the i win every fight class in trios

[topaz lintel]

isnt cleric kinda like a monk

[woeful wren]

Monks are martial artists that use ki, clerics are priests with armor

[silent geyser]

You can for sure, it just isn't fun fighting sorc and ranger 24/7. I play duos tho

[marsh adder]

yeah but I just want a silly bald man that runs at people with a stick

[topaz lintel]

so monks gonna be running around punching people with knuckle dusters?

[idle grotto]

Thats kinda the game so it is what it is until sdf drop patch

[woeful wren]

Unarmed punches that go through your armor and delete your bank balance

[marsh adder]

I feel like thats why they added the blocking with the fists

[topaz lintel]

lmao. every punch deletes and item from your stash. 3 consecutive punches steals your steam password

[silent geyser]

Which is why the game has 12k players most of the time now 🙃

[woeful wren]

They will probably get a cooler faster punch anim, along kicks and other shizz, aswell as skills, like ki stuff, jumpkicks etc.

[idle grotto]

If u dont like it leave ig and make the game dead

[topaz lintel]

just add kung lao to the game

[silent geyser]

I hit dimi earlier so I probably will until wipe, game just sucks

[marsh adder]

give me a skill for monk where every punch that lands increases your action speed by 10% for like 5 seconds

[idle grotto]

Bru