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bruh how they gonna nerf my hatchet dmg AND make it easier to parry
That was such a great time. No GS, random exits, metas weren't rampant, trios were just buffball one guy and let him go on a rampage. Ah, the good old days. It was really frustrating to play insanely well and not find a portal, though.
skinny pete got buffed again with blood exchange change, 150 damage headshots are gonna heal alot
Ive allways found it hard to suggest anything in here that compromises players convenience. But it totally agree, the extract camping, lack of danger also knowing the set numbers and realising there are more players than extracts left in the zone was beautiful, until Warlock dropped and cheesed it đ
@static pasture I was thinking sprint+adrenaline with rondel, own you get extra bonus move speed to get in there
âWeâve updated lesser used skillsâ only for fighter and barb. Update other classes than the top two ffs
I mean if you want me to say space and spacer, same same. I've dropped so many barbs that run ms in 2 hits
well in my exp surv bow with true phys is gnarly for pdr fighters, especially if u are trying to counter with your own bow now add an ability that can get rid of sprint and rage, it just would seem like a terrible idea
shrimp and shrimper? Krill and kriller? Shrimp and kriller?
rogue ...
It seems like alot of you aren't understanding, 0-124 will be mostly people on the lower end committing nothing beyond a green or two. There used to be no gear-score cap in normals, most people still just brought the one potion that their class might ve given them.
your in this chat just like us so keep it calm
so classes are still dumb unbalanced and there is now even less gear control over who you are fighting? Temu ahh dev team
Whys there no general chat for me?
why do i keep getting the connection to the server terminated
lmao if people have a problem with the game then that's what the customer service department is for. Good games are successful on their own merits, the devs are not obligated to bend over backwards for every balance whiner with a bright idea. So don't worry I'm pretty sure the only way the community could directly F up the game design is if the internet trolls somehow got to the devs emotionally, which if they have basic self respect shouldn't happen...
yea... kiting definitely is NOT very viable right now. too many minmaxed barbs and druids out there that are impossible to kite.
this isnt an attitude for everything in life. this is an attitude towards learning mechanics in a game. dont read into things so deeply?
Barb and barber 2.0
Why you trick me with update button then after i install update it goes back to saying maintenance?
Go ingame and go in options should be a tab named account or link account something I think like far right
There is a ongoing patch right now check #đ˘announcements
they are applying hotfix i think
How is it a win for 125 hr rats to be gear diffd by a fulgor?
druid running
FINALLY SERVER UP
the update is out boys
Because they wait for someone else to kill that guy or loot the scraps that are worth more than their account...
W servers are back
Nah, its ok now ... you are just supposed to pick fighter and should be good.
server up
no 30+ str druid will shit on all the barbs trust
....because they can rat the fulgor
This is true I am one of those rats
Fighters got bows, and use any weap in game which is broken enough by itself. barbs have to use shit weapons like warmaul / double axe. fighter is a luxury class that can also have range options, just no MR perk thats the only diff
like what is the problem with having a training mode? a training room? every normal game has it, will this ruin the game experience by allowing normal people to learn in their due time?
Not a joke servers are up!!!!
agreed
lets goooo
I don't suppose you have been watching the player counts over the last year? 
When are the server up
Can anyone link general chat? i cant find it in the discord?
Depends if they press rat/chicken or not xD
Lesgooo!!!! Back to the cryptsssss
Liar XD
Thats the attitude of a boomer for sure.
I wish they just added a training map where you can test damage on training dummies
war maul used to be a beast in playtest 4, smh its a shame
Itâs the tavern now
Barb and Barber vs Figth and Figther
Ah those types of rats. The druid/rogue maining cringe. I was imagining a different type of rat
Would be nice if the servers would be up đ
still your best bet against pdr fighters
you could do it a long time ago just before a game starts
Servers back online thank god
when the server will be back
I play wiz. I survival barb apocalypse. Now we're back to fighter ms cap apocalypse. Goddamn.
war maul + reckless attack = dead body in plate armor
because you are taking the dungeon crawling aspect out of the game, you are supposed to have to deal with spawns, deal with pvp, third parties and unfortunate luck. the bosses are all easy. its getting out with the loot that is hard. if you can crouch - jump - jump idk what to tell u
My fault đ
hatchet has been nerfed ?
Are servers still down?
rat kit is easy. Build MS with the cheapest pieces, stack maybe action speed, and wear interaction speed gloves to run fast and open doors fast. if you're a druid fly away and rat through the door. barbs and fighters won't catch you. at some point you will find a body with some bis gear on it that someone wasn't able to bag
While I understand where your coming from this only makes pre existing balance issues with the class worse rondel buckler and demons glee is gonna be a living hell the rest of this wipe
yes
Honestly it was when the game felt the most rewarding to play, my buddies and I are always talking about the playtest era and how much more fun it was. It was definitely annoying when you lost your stuff cause you couldn't find an exit, but I feel like its healthy for a game like this to remind you that you aren't going to survive 100% of the time
locust buff already canceled
why even include shit in patches that never make it live
All the "meta" barbs spamming what streamers do are gonna be lost XD
barbs see yaa))
I have the same question lol. Time to play fighter then
kinda a big update theres a 0.0000000000% percent chance its up in two hours
let me guess servers are going to take another 2 hours
nah they will just use a war maul or zwei or bardiche and still be OP, the class is still busted
Imagine barb with a demon's glee and max ms and full plate. there ya go, fighter
bruh i done update but its still not up
Correlation does not always equal causation, hype around the game drove a lot of its initial popularity, but it can also become less popular and more fun simultaneously. You wouldn't say that the most popular games are always the most fun.
I tried buff duration fight for meme yesterday and it was allready surprisingly good on 125 and 225 with pis sets. Im not saying im happy with this patch, it is what it is....
Servers were scheduled to be up 5 minutes ago, I want to speak with the manager...
bring back multi classing
Just for April fools, they should revert the game back the play test 3, just for funsies.
TEST SERVER UPDATED LFGGGGG!
How? only blood exchange got nerfed, nothing else
SDF is busy buffing barbarian, figther and druid
yeah because their hitboxes are straight garbage lol
buff duration fighter? explain pls
hatchet and horesman nerf
@hardy stump@sturdy coral only problem is for longsword fighter to parry it
You lack basic reading comprehension
do you guys can enter the \game?
no
I want all of my gear to have +3 all attributes again. The good ol' days.
It felt better because it was a shiny new thing. Even this bad patch is objectively much better than that time.
Yeah dude hop in here
Servers back up Lets go !
demon glee with adrenaline rush gonna be busted
drag that big hammer SWOOSH
cant wait to use demon glee
That's an issue with those weapons though, not the Fighter class. Those weapons are good on every class that has them
why does my anti virus still thing dark and darker is virus
^^^^ literally. the camping and playing the entire raid with your back to a static extraction everyone does now is so lame.
Why yes, my pants, rings, and necklace all have move speed bonus, why do you ask?
Servers down a 5am, 40 minutes for players to finish games brings us to 5:40am, two hours maintentaine brings us to 7:40 am, it is now 7:48am. Is my math mathing?
will/buff duration .. crystal sword(will hit terribly) but you can stack good ms/pdr with will.. and you gonna have a longbow with +30%mr +40%pdr sprint lasts 10 seconds and cd is reduced as it starts at cast.. and use the perk for +50mr and armor and actually block with the crystal sword its lowkey op.
Thank god nobody is talking about the 45 damage shield bash, im boutta have some fun
Goofy-aah devs giving stuff 100%+ buffs
Everyone, when the servers come back up, we will get notified under https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/988662112454836234
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@teal meadow pavise pure tank ms fighter
sounds like cap
Gonna be so fun getting stomped by people in artifacts while queueing hr in blue and purple gear, w patch
ty dave, love u
"all the melee classes diggidy-daggity"
This is a sword&board game with occasional arrow shot, pup. The ranged gameplay is so shitty at its core that you shouldn't be even starting this conversation
Make sure they bring back 24s before they go up though. Thanks.
wdym im alredy playing
Immabouttocreaminmypants
Wasting 1 of your 2 abilities for shield bash? Please do it. No ones worried about a meme build.
Oh yeah, fair I forgot that that was the meta for the true gotta be 1ms behind the best option players xD
Servers are online guys.
you're using shovelware AV
Brother, shield bash is on a 6 second cool down and has knock back. You're a ping pong ball and I just got upgraded from a paddle to a hammer
Yall QQ about barb, I havent died by one since the updates. Just kite them, they are stronk but dumb lol
Who tf needs action speed fr 
@open quest it's 45 damage and second wind has always been the baby skill, i'll do well without it 
Are y'all literally spam logging in or staring at the launcher? How are you guys seeing the server is up before the devs have announced it
NAUR
just dropping this dev comment here for no reason at all
We still want to foster new players as they learn the ropes in the more dangerous dungeons. The previous gear-score divisions served as a poor way of on-ramping new players. Instead, we will now start testing a separate matchmaking pool for newer players. Weâll continue to adjust these new matchmaking pools to give ALL players a good balance of risk, reward, and progression.
They plan to make all maps random. That is kinda what you want isnât it?
Luckily there are better games coming out! Ironmace thinks he has the situation under control but in reality the first slightly nicer game that will come out, then, the population will disappear.
People give me shit for playing 24 gs as a vet. but I just rush troll on GC and allways fight dencent players there... I just dont wanna check every dark corner for campers and rogues in HR...
is the game still in meintenence
Who uses antivirus in 2025? Just factory reset when your PC takes a dump like a normal person.
yup give it some time
45 damage with 1.0 scaling is kinda crazy tho
But we are talking about current balance if these changes came with the removal of weapon mastery then yes buff fighter to the moon because i fully agree but itâs not gonna happen since sdf sees that as a core part of the class
just tested now i was able to login, servers up lets goooo
On the bright side, you wonât have to kit up. Youâll still be able to just hit play
Whoâs hyped for random inferno 
shield bash counters druid bear and barb now
My boy under 24 is so chill. Best PvP bracket by far. All skill levels. Balanced. Its heaven.
Removing 224 hr is a god dam mistake
Youll do fine without it yeah but you wont do better and thats the point.
obviously the most annoying thing about this game is bow fights and people never pushing
cant log in
WHERES THE SERVERS
hope i can finally transfer blacksmith to steam rn
who remembers when there was zone? that was soo fun
Best build for fightar?
Game is hella boring as is, might as well use the funny stuff when it is viable
can i play this game with a RTX 350 graphics card
no one tell 'em about demons glee
These changes are dumb as hell. I think SDF is trying to speed run EOS
do u really think this update is only gonna take two hours
They don't know what they're doing, this game is dead and deader! They have the worst melee combat ever and they buff the melee classes who are brainless.
btw everyone clerics locust buff wasnt canceled it just already happened the hotfix before
Melee and Meleer
I remember when rangers were OP and I quit the game because it was all just rangers arrowing me to death. So glad thats over.
servers arent scheduled to be up for 7 more minutes lmao
cleric MS perk and ranged weapon already please?!
its funny cause its not even been 2 hours yet, just a couple mins away
so dont play it man a leave the server
Server up or no?
Waiting for another delay
Replaced by hatchet barbs lmao
Yes, but it will be very rough ngl. Minimized graphics and you'll still be stuttering and frameloss
they have a great ambition but they def don't know how to run a multiplayer game, these are kind of things that destroy your playerbase
True. And a kiting TM stupidfukk leech
they kinda ruined gear score tbh
Delay incoming
try again it works on my end
Racist/toxic third party while you have 100,000k gear set has joined the chat
souinds like cry to me
I dont disagree. Just saying of course people arent complaining about that when there is a stronger optimal build now.
No, that'd just make you the better fighter
The minimum requirements of a graphics card for this game is "GeForce GTX 1060 with 3GB of video RAM or Radeon RX 580 with 4GB of video RAM or Intel Arc A380 or above"
is the water map supposed to drop this season or next season?
with patches like this they might as well add multiclasing back in the game lmfao
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
MINIMUM:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: 64-bit Windows 10, 11
Processor: 3.0 GHz Quad Core CPU
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: GeForce GTX 1060 with 3GB of video RAM or Radeon RX 580 with 4GB of video RAM or Intel Arc A380
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 15 GB available space
I personally don't use 0 <24 lobbys but as a new player it is going to be tough for them
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watch now the patch proccess will be extended for 3h
they have their own queue now though
why it says the server is Online when it is not..
Not in the overall feel of the game between now and before. Because of how leaving the raids works now, you never have to make hard choices to survive with your stuff. There are like over 10 ways to leave the raid each time that are always in the same place and open 90 seconds after spawning in, every time. It takes the risk away and with it the sense of danger. Especially now that 0-24 is gone, I feel like people with gear fear are just gonna clear their spawn room and maybe a few more close by, then leave for free. I don't think that's better than having to use your brain to leave the raid and interact with other players who are competing with you to leave with there loot and gear also.
TELL ME!
noone played 124 normals before
Fighter mains complaining about a ranged class using a bow and mantaining distance its pure comedy.
0-24 was boss Farming/ rush pvp only anyway
Already done like all my friends, luckily better games are coming out (new world pvp) and these devs deserve to fail.
is the patch over
Im gonna boss farm squire gear anyway. You cant stop me.
but that is the thing .. the one smurf on the timmy lobbies will farm harder than ever... It will be more than one btw
NOOO DONT GO TO THE DARK SIDE, USE LONGSWORD INSTEAD
based
see ya on in 10 mins bud
Me and my buddy are going to queue as new people and run around smashing timmies on barb before telling them to uninstall.
Sorry, this will add about 4 hours to maintenance due to the fact that we deleted all players' databases by mistake.
Ranger mains complaining about a sneaky class ambushing them and stabbing them is pure comedy, as well
how long is the game gonna be down
Yea cause you can get to a pretty goated gear set below that and now theyâre just gonna spawn with people rocking squire gear
lmao
Sounds a lot like cry. keep cry pls
Delay incomming......
@summer elk yes and cause of pve boy like you game is become more and more shit
ill be happy when i can craft spectral coin bags
FIGHTER META INCOMING
new world? hahahahahahhaahahhaha
why is my name a bad thing in thing gameđ
well be even tho u shouldent
the patch is a bad social experiment đ đ
Howâs blood exchange work?
Yeah if you stay in ruins. Now its random in crypts and inferno. People are going to die searching for an exit in inferno now a LOT. It was already possible to get terrible spawns there solo.
new world pvp??? hahaha that game's pvp is so bad though. total cluster
ray of light cantrip plz
bro didnt read patch notes smh
We got the 74th lobby gs change before GTA 6. Wild.
druid is gonna be nerfed
Let me in the game I need to get my daily fix in
how tf u gonna get rid of low gear score lobbies... so now ill only be fighting people who have good armor so pvp wont be balanced >.>
you say that now, until the mighty pavise casts its long shadow over you, ready to crash like a tsunami
Who Said I was a pve boys ..
are u a girl
no shes not
How is Ironmace really going to make me think Nexon could've done better managing this game
Pavise meta let's go
@sacred nimbus these game nerds just want to gearcheck people, too bad to actual skill fights
what's a girl
be the person with good armor
I love random modules, cheers. Bring it to Ruins and Ice too !
just headshot them
Better combat, better balance, open world pvp, loot. Not just W + left click. No easy noob classes like barb.
why the #server-status shows up as Online if it aint?
beats me
It realistically doesnât make since to have 0-24 lobbies since a majority of the player base has been playing for multiple wipes. Why would we have a bracket designated for ânew playersâ when anyone can play it? The only people that played >24s were Timmyâs and veterans. It makes sense to remove it entirely since they were getting stomped by veterans anyways. They need to tie this ânew player experienceâ to a characters fame level or time played
Magic damage demons glee can have true magic damage helmet. Mana sphere gives another 2 true dmg. 10 percent action speed as both are weapons. There you go.
that thing you cook steak on
a girl what!!!!!!!!
Some fictional made up alternate species of human
Me and my buddy are going to queue as new people and run around smashing timmies on barb before telling them to uninstall.
gonna build 10 demon glee bis fighter kit and roll everyone in HR gl boys
hold lads delay inc
you say it by yourself saying 0-24 was for pvp and it is good that its gone so you are a pve boy for sure running when door are open for fear fight @summer elk
I´M LOOSING EVERY 1on1 i i need to know it! I´m ready to join the dark side!
lol hahahah same though
Going to make questing fun having to do it geared now
If you corner someone moving that slowly you deserve it. Have your fun man.
People can just make a new account and smurf
We giving ranger an AWP this patch?
stay on game topics pls
This is true. People just joining or who donât have time to grind for better gear are gonna be outmatched, but at least it adds some more risk to dungeons. Although, most people are just gonna loot two rooms and extract now.
u guys are down bad
yeah this game is cooked 
This is almost a good change just change "rookie" to "noob" and we are all set
actually though... bout to have people fighting tooth and nail for these monster parts
can't log in from epic, anyone else?
so, the barbarian change is a buff or a nerf?
Did "DD" Devs drop a hotdog in the server room again? đ
I just looked up mine, yikes xD
ive been looting 2 rooms and leaving đ
is game up?
vigor good stat to prio for squire gear fighter?
Buff
Buckler rondel plate top cloth bottom
1 minute to go guys đ
Probably net nerf. Weapons were nerfed, blood exchange was probably rebalanced.
HELL NO, JUST GO WITH LIGHT. LIVE AND DIE BY THE LONGSWORD TING
"The only people that played >24s were Timmyâs and veterans." You mean like, people of all skill levels enjoyed the mode? I wonder if that's a good reason not to remove it?
Uhh is there more barb nerf coming?
Sigma chad
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#IAMLIAR GAME IS STILL DOWN
nerf for hatchet spammers, buff for two-handed weapons i guess
You know about the new pvp server? The combat is 100x better than this woodiness.
I'm just here to remind you how little experience and vision these devs have.
lezgo im in!
nah its chilling
Thatâs true but thatâs a lot of hoops to jump through verses selecting >24s. It will drastically reduce blatant timmy smashing
You're saying the map is random or the static exits are random? Like the rooms that had them before only have a chance to spawn them instead now?
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@glad thunder stop buffing the W key classes and nerf them into the ground already. We get thatâs what you play but we donât care. Remove this RR and HR gear score change bs too
SERVER SHOULD BE UP, WHY IT IS NOT UP YET?
taking 24 lobbys is a w but not haveing 2 brackets in highroller is rough, means you gonna have to wear bis to comopete with the players that are juiced just to have a chance in highroller pvp, they shouldve kept 2 brackets in highroller but w removing 24 lobbys
WHY WOULD THEY MAKE ONLY 1 HR
Whose buying spectral bags for 45-50K?
Yes yes range meta range meta. Everyone shoot at eachother from across the room
I donât mind đ leaves more for me
server is up
so people don't abuse gear farming in low hr
W key counters S key, buff S key, S key counters W key, buff W key
it's really not lol, the combat in new world is a cluster like I said, a spam fest of who can get their abilities out faster... very little tactics aside from herding cats. the new pvp servers don't change any of the combat
Bring back 0-125 HR lobbies
I'm ready for them to add some goblin mommies'
GAME IS UP
GAME IS UP
now i will play in hr with my 300gs vs 700gs?
Are we back online?
so what the new ranger hability does?
games back up
Cus poor people needs to be put in their place. tRuSt sDf vIsiOn
servers up, fo real
LATE
I agree, but make the first high roller like 125-299
GAME BETTER BE UP 3RD RESTART đ
still maintenance in Blacksmith launcher
Dead game
its time
right on time as usual â¤ď¸
S key is slow as fuck. Just learn to walk /run in a non straight line and you wonât get shot so easily
(Found the w key player)
Servers are Up
GO GO GO!!
servers up lets goooo
Why has every recent patch been fighter and barb buffs mostly? When are the other classes going to get some buffs too? Give cleric a MS perk and ranged weapon already!
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Sdfs vision = game dead
Aspollo
so how do we transfer accounts
Yo, nice way of saying u removedblood exchange lol
No delay? who is this dev and what have they done to SDF
new perks
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Give rangers a buff.
ruins maybe but ice? holy hell that'd be annoying
does anyone know what happened to acc transfers? I wrote a ticket a month ago :kekw:
224 was allright 299 you can get pretty geared but yea atleast 2 brackets for hr, will be curiose to see what people will be running in hr now might make pvp more rewarding now and dungeouns less dead now
next patch they gonna remove solo/duo queues and bring back the circle
I hate the fog of war please reoce
Well, you know what I mean, W key but in reverse. The range and kite classes.
Oh shit I wanna play Druid now
HOLD UP I WENT FROM 2K RATING TO 1149 DAFUQ
Wait wait wait wait .... did they double down.. AND BUFF CLERIC AGAIN?!?!?!?!?!?!
"magical buff" so not rage i assume ? :/
anyone know if you can change stats on a named item?
no way they buffed barb again
As usual? Huh? Are we in the same server by any chance?
Can someone be my test dummy and tell me if accounts are being deleted with migration.
i dont think itq a buff its a nerf for low gear score lobbies
What an awful idea to remove the GS brackets. The game needed more brackets if anything, not less.
i know u went back and read the patch
Please revert the high roller gear score change atleast
Why would you wanna disable shape-shifting though that's so bad
And you know what I mean by calling you a W key user
RIP 0-24.
And it is time to fall on Bis gear in HR while i just wanted to farm for items
Please keep shape-shifting forever, i love 1-tapping rats
You talk like that because you don't know how to play. If you pvp at high levels you would know this.Don't defend them, they are incompetent and every time they take one step forward than 3 steps back. In the meantime most of the people I know have left the game.Now they have changed HR again, buffed barbarian and fighter and this promotes a mindless, boring game for noobs who hope to win only thanks to their equipment and with a single hit.
10% đ¤Ł
"Fixed an issue where some users would be restricted from using the Marketplace even though 72 hours had passed since purchasing Legendary Status." STILL LOCKED OUT
Ranger skill?
A whole 2 health for no shapeshift? đ¤Ł
you were probably talking to someone else then
Ranger gets a new skill but sorcerer gets nothing, tf are they doing (ranger skill is trash btw)
bruh we were talking about the combat ... you're complaining about the devs for this game, the new world devs ignored their game for 2 years before picking it up again đ¤Ł
I'm fully agreed that every class should be viable at every distance. It doesnt mean every class should be equal in performance, i.e. rogues could kill ppl in melee but it's more demanding that with let's say barbarian. In many cases. Speaking of "ranged classes" melee performance - rangers would absolutely butcher anything in melee, should they land proper spear headshots etc. So at least one class is balanced enough to stop the infamous bitchkiting
The Rookie mode doesn't exist guys
fighter buffed?
so like do we get to update on steam or nah?
What about the Druid perk is it any good
What it do? I'm not reinstalling 
it's ass
need a quick tip, what class makes me win
Bro I read the notes and im not even that mad... then you get to the developer comments and realize that they are doing the exact OPPOSITE of what they are trying to accomplish, wow.
If i knew last night would be the last night i would be able to play sub 24s i woulda held them tighter
Huge W
Barb and fighter
HR is now MTX Roller
first game on and i die to a lag spike instakill from hr cave troll.. good start
how do we migrate with the new feature they implemented?
purge shot is ass
That doesn't take away from the fact that it has better, smoother, and more skill-based combat. The new server is going to be the bomb!
blood exchange is literally useless now lmao doesnt work with achilles either since its based on dmg rip
There is no possible system that will save Timmys from being smurfed.
And for only a whole 2 extra healing lol..so not worth
the servers are the final boss
ANTI BARD RANGER IT IS
Purge shot: removes 1 random magical buff from a target on each succesful hit with a ranged weapon within 8 seconds.
WHY IS HACTHET DAMAGE BUFFED?!?!?!
fr
So... how does this whole rookie matchmaking work?
lol how do people still support these changes, the mid bracket is where the game felt the most balanced.
@granite widget what does it do
Someone explain new blood exchange please
why are other quests reset ???
Just don't let people with over a certain amount of time in the game into those 0-24 lobbies. The lobbies aren't for them anyway.
Not ass, remove sprint, secont wind, and those skills
Hello. Where is the "rookie matchmaking" ?
Now they will be gear-stomped... Big brain moment
10% dmg dealt instead max
This dev team really canât do anything right #teamnexon
@thin bear they could just make a brand new account no?
Sick bro I just get to run into 800 gs juicers while Iâm just trying to grind apđ
Everyone, relax on the bold font please
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Yeah that does sound like ass for an active skill slot lol
and now i wait 15 mins praying no one fights cave troll to loot my corpse
soooooooo. wheres this platform migration feature....
Game is literally free. People will make new steam accounts just to smurf.
What ? I dont know what the hell this means... What smurfing? there was no smurfing before.. now there will be, because account age seems to factor into MM.
lfiebloom aura sucks lmao
Is sprint considered a magical buff?
Why the hell is the game making me log in
wondering too
Time to make another free account so I can run around in Timmy lobbies and insta them with barb before telling them to uninstall.
Can't stop people from smurfing like that I guess, but at least it'd be an extra step and most of em probably wouldn't be willing to do that anyway.
Anyone's accounts being deleted when transferring?
I am looking for it actually and didn't see it. Also it just means even if it was working that it would "stomp" casual player and some people will just do free account to "stomp" new players.
So, does that mean we kinda got sbmm?
With that whole rookie mode?
New druid perk is a joke
The whole class is a joke.
What does the Druid perk do
What is it
Cool! I'll do the same! I think now is the right time to have fun! Thanks!
Whats the new ranger skill can someone lmk :))
Read patch notes
blood exchange now is SSS
cant shapeshift but heals a little better
is blood exchange ass now?
blood exchange is now useless
soooooooo. wheres this platform migration feature..
2 extra healing per target inside the aura but disables shape shifting
You read them cause it doesnât say what it does just says itâs been added
Remember when they said on a podcast that they are aware of druid transform cheese and gonna adress it this wipe? .. THIS was their great plan, like wow, druid is totally fixed now. But to be fair we dont know scaling it could sclale (1.0) on MH and would be mental with gear
Is blood exchange actually useless? Some of your builds do like 120 damage, that means you heal 120
i like the idea of life bloom directing druid gameplay towards a support
Honestly the heal druid perk seems kinda bad initially. But I don't like shapeshifting and want more ways to play Druid so I'm happy about it. Maybe it could get buffed if it sucks.
I'm playing druid right now, they actually totally messed something up completely with the shapeshifting, huge issues with it, it's very laggy, can't even triple jump with switching to a chicken anymore
heal 12*
good news
It won't stop anyone though : experimented player will just stomp more casual player (especially with the recent lobby system which didn't work well) and rookie will face smurf (when it will be working). But is not too big of a problem for now, it is still an alpha after all.
Anyone able to use the new rookie system?
Great work IM. Random dungeons is insane!! IMPRESSED
Is lifebloom aura bot disgusting on healer druid or??? 2+ extra healing per tick and maybe even with natural healing
Was the arena rating meant to be resetted?
Time to make another free account so I can run around in Timmy lobbies and insta them with barb before telling them to uninstall.
this patch is amazing
What is the new craft from Wyvern hide?
How much space does the new patch require?
I'm using Wi-Fi off my phone and I only have a couple gigs left.
still worse than cleric heals! instant > hot for pvp. honestly they would have been better off just giving druid more spells. especially if they want to break the whole shapeshifting vibe
cannot go down in ruins anyone have same issue ?????????
What's hatchet like now?
Studded leather I think
Lmao what
why remove gear cap?
Thanks! Seems pretty good in 3 mans
Tf is studded leather
Wish me luck gents, I am transferring now!!
Did they add gold gear quests?
Gear cap was sooo good..
Pavise shield bash fighter is so back
Dude quests with full on random crypts is going to be aids
I hope everyone enjoys the changes đŤđ (not a dev just spreading positive energy)
Cool rage bait, is it more fun to spam discord than play the actual game?
The removal of the bracket in HR is a TERRIBLE idea. First time i ever spoke poorly about their development but holy cow its not it. For normals, ok i get but oh my.
The âRandom Dungeonâ system has now been applied to the Inferno. THIS IS WHAT WE NEEDED TY IM
Pvp was rare for me in under 24, above there is more loot on people and more incentive to kill people
disables shapeshift, makes party member heals with spells +2
Time to bring my best purple felling axe and my all attribute rings in normal, cuz 0-124!
Anyone know what Inforno River is>
so you are saying... there is HOPE ?
Because according to them it's nice to see a nolifers who without skill takes down another player with one click.
finally acc transfer works đ
Can someone send the new perk descriptions?
Does lifebloom heal off the ticks of HOTS? Or just the initial
what does the purge shot do
BIG W PATCH
Removing soft caps is insane, would love to know who came up with that one. Cant wait to get into a continuous dungeon in squire and face a 250+ GS barb đ
nonono stop the game was in a decent state do not change lobbys
No more under 224 lobbies⌠wasnât that there most popular gear score range smh.
why tf did my arena rating drop 800 wtf
Why am i spawning solo in trio mode?
Barb chest giving 2 vigor 2 str
pickpocket rogue is back on the menu
nevermind I'm wrong, game was lagging because I was downloading something, after turning that off it feels the same
Are we excited for game or no?
hey do u lose ur stuff in arena?
Can't have their cash cow content creators unhappy with their inability to shit on people.
Arena season officially starting soon, ur current rating is worthless don't matter
yay i transfered to Steam succefully
Yeah they were sad they couldnt rat named items anymore so they changed the brackets again... only thing that makes any sense
I like that new druid perk
At this rate yeah, how does anyone still want to play with these changes and the constant L patches making one class so much better than others, or how the game becomes impossible to balance at high gearscore. 
Haven't played yet but the changes do look good
im a low high roller player, this ruins the game for me...
Only because if you went in above 224 lobbies it was full of rangers sat in corners with unique windlasses or Druids running around with unique gear on with like 35 str and 35 agi
Whats wrong with barbs
Did you check you have solo selected ? If yes then it must be also bug
Anyone having issues with the audio? can't set mic anymore
Change lobbies, but they didn't fix the "no space to clame rewards" issue. I see they get their priorities straight xD
I tested the new ranger skill. It doesnt remove normal buffs like rage. So its trash.
Edit: maybe removes bard skills. Further testing is needed
So how do I que into this "Experimental âRookieâ matchmaking"
is the hatchet for barb ass now?
Well, now. Not a whole lot. Blood exchange finally got nerfed so it wont be a death sentence to fight a barb
Hr 224 was the most balanced fights change my mind
Thats the neat thing u dont
you dont , because it dosent exist
did they add fog of war to the ifnerno đŚ
Found the neckbeard who is upset they canât Smurf stomp in 0-24s anymore and will have to face people their skill level đ˘
what lifebloom do
Ridiculous
Iâm at work so I havenât tried it first hand, but I think the changes overall this patch were pretty good
Game will be unplayable with full 124 bis stompers in every lobby
weapon damage for hatchet is now 30, horseman's axe is 32 (for white)
6 wolfpet quest, wtf is this?
Can anyone tell me What the new Druid perk does? I canât open the game rn
And now they are in all hr lobbies lmao. How much sense does that make?
Blood exchange sucks now fyi
I have less than 100 hours and I am already out of the Rookie system. So the Rookie system doesn't exist
Mid-GS lobbies is where the game was most balanced. Removing that is just opening up the impossible to balance high-GS bracket onto everyone. Literally just going to be mechanic abuse in every game now.
acting like someone in 124 bis cant die to some squire gear if they fuck up hard enough
Just get better at the game gear doesn't mean skill
Good đđ
If you found it , i would be interested to check, i am still looking.
Now with brave hunters and with druids not really needing weapons it kinda gave them a upperhand
Squire lobbies and under 224 high roller lobbies was literally all I played. Now Iâll just lose to people having better gear rather then people being better then me.
Wha? Barb isn't as OP anymore, how unfair.
bro no one has enough gingerbread yet and this winter event is ending in a week đ§
the gear diff is one thing. But those people who only wanted to smash timmy, they never had a que specifically to kill timmies and farm their bosses, now they do...
is the hatchet for barb ass now?
I just sold it honestly.
guys why does my rogue hide have charges that dont recharge
U buy em in hopes u get good legendary rolls from santa to offset the cookie cost
Just buy them. It was supposed to end over a week and a half ago already lol
Listen nothing wrong with a littel norms farmer
A normal warrior
We all do it and it is how God intended we want
24 back
Skill issue
It was an equal playing field where skill was reflected. Now itâs gone
wait so their rebalance to hatchet and horseman's axe was to buff them to always be their max damage rolls lol, at least for white, hatchet buff confirmed
this change is garbage bring <24 gs back
arent you the same person who was crying last night about getting stompped on every game ?
It's legitimately just a way to pander to content creators/streamers and no-life whales/real $ traders. IM hates the fucking shit out of casual players it seems. How dare anyone that doesn't play the game full time expect to be rewarded for their investment?
Mid-GS lobbies is where the game was most balanced. Removing that is just opening up the impossible to balance high-GS bracket onto everyone. Literally just going to be mechanic abuse in every game now.
unable to shapeshift, but heals are very strong, healing aura alone heals for 4 with zero +healing
Reread the patch notes more carefully this time. The damage wasnt the issue
my entire ui is bugged as hell after i went to crypts
No idea, there is 0 communication for the moment. I try to check with my epic game account with 0 hour (literally) and my blacksmith account and didn't see anything for the moment.
This is so true people with 124 gear aren't un killable with squire gear 1 green weapon is that gear range already
No? I'd love for the average skill level of my 24GS matches to be higher. Killing new players isn't fun and actually one of the worst parts about playing 24GS was the flood of Timmys. But I'm also way too lazy to deal with sitting in trade looking for the exact gear I want and figuring out how to optimise 124GS for my class just to play 1 game. I just wanna boot up and play without getting gear-checked. They could keep 24GS as a bracket and use the new 'Rookie' matchmaking system so I don't have to be in their game.
mate life exchange was giving 20 hp now it gives 3.5 hp how you cant understand theres a big nerf to hatchet are you *
Restores and additional 2 health when the caster heals self or an ally within aura range. Disables shapeshifting.
Blood exchange is a dead ability now gg
Literally, on what conditions one is placed in the rookie matchmaking?
Like, how does it work? What does the system take into concideration?
barb nerf is big win but why take out 24gs lobbys bro it is fun for casual players..
Ive allways thought nothing but good of IM´s intentions. But this makes you wonder if this is intended, knowing the no-lifers can yield more $ with cosmetics/battlepass than newplayers can, buying the game. Like Tarkov accepted that cheaters are paying customers, too.
Skill issue
Ty
That perk is so useless to be fair ur just losing your movement mobility the best thing about druids
So the new money making strat is now to make a new account on epic games, smurf timmy lobbies for easy boss kills, transfer profit to main acc
I want you to go see what you can do with copper gear. Anyone that plays the game knows weapons are inefficient for gear score. You can still get full true and max health at 124.
no idea, but trying out new lifebloom perk on squire gear druid, I ended up in timmiest of timmie lobby, perk is good, because timmies survived their very clearly first yeti
Also before the Epic Games free Legendary thing 24GS lobbies were pretty high average skill. Some of my best fights were in normals. It's the flood of new players that has made the average skill in those lobbies low unfortunately. And I get why Ironmace wants to keep us sweats away from them, but I still cannot be assed to deal with this game's lame gear system.
delete hotfix 77
Mid-GS lobbies is where the game was most balanced. Removing that is just opening up the impossible to balance high-GS bracket onto everyone. Literally just going to be mechanic abuse in every game now.
Indeed they are not "unkillable" under the principe : you have the right class against your ennemy, you have an advantage with the field, the player infront is not too good or lag a bit, ... But yes indeed there is a probability to win even with a gear gap.
I seriously want to know the devs thought process when they decided it was a good idea to remove the zero kit lobbies, allowing 4pc's of purples to go against people with absolutely nothing, it cannot be to prevent people from "charging headlong into battle" when the BIGGEST CULPRITS are people with gear, honestly good luck to new players
I'm so glad wizard got nothing. I was worried it might become playable
Is that an sbmm? Say you died a couple of times so you get placed into the timmy land?
What are your hours in game, fame level on druid etc?
all the cry babys are soooo annoying like the game is the same get good or get off!!!!!
i hope they bring back 224 the rest of the updates are good
that perk is literally insane lol itâs true healing per tick, not per second
is forcefull shot fixed?
I just wanted to start learning bosses, sadge
explain lifebloom, 2 healing per tick?
Lmao I thought the campfire buff was gonna be crazy but if not
100% .. unfortunately they wont listen and never gave a f.
when will the rewards for the season be revealed?
Well just get good noob
druid bugged health pot heals u full in rat form
Them reverting what was legitimately good changes for like at least 60%-70% of the playerbase back to what can only be described as full time players doesn't bode well for future updates to the game and it's systems imo. Games live and DIE based on their casual to hardcore player ratios. Only games that take measures to improve a more casual experience end up flourishing. Hardcore full time playerbases end up killing their own games with their behavior.
classic IM when something is meta we just overnerf it to shit tier đ actual joke devs. and why nerf horseman axe? it wasnt even used, it was terrible and u dumpstered it lol
oh, need to see how potion interacts with lifebloom now
first thing im doing is testing shield slam with pavise and lantern shield lol
Chat what does purge shot do
Ironmace I am very impressed with the patch. Great job on RNG dungeons. I will buy â¤ď¸ â¤ď¸ more redstone â¤ď¸ â¤ď¸
Removes 1 magical buff per hit for 8 seconds
anyone else get stuck in loading screen when taking reds?
Most of the people in this lobby donât even know what it used to be like for us đ
uwu
balance team smoking crack confirmed
the removal of gear score lobies makes me sad
Some1 cant find game?
yes you instantly recieve 20 violas
it's very playable in arenas and trios atleast
infinite loading screen when you go to next floor
""Instead of serving as stepping stones for newer players, the lower gear score divisions have become killing grounds with bloodthirsty players having little to lose. ""
So they "fixed" this by allowing larger gear disparity? lol wild
realy fun patch seems i will no longer play since the next patch
Im not a hardcore player, and i approve this changes. Its about risk management and different playstyles in the dungeon. If you are 125 in hr or 0 in normal, then play like it. You are weaker, but you have potential to get really good gear, if you play like a crow (loot dead bodies) or rat. you can fight, high risk, high reward etc. And no everyone will run Bis. It will muuuch more expensive now, like it was in the past, where no lobbies existed. its not an arena game, the fights were never 100% balanced. its about risk and chance. and surviving.
TLDR: Stop whining, just play the game
Can you send me a screenshot?
Bruh
They dont know what it was like for people like us growing up, you gotta call me man, i'll be the biggest fan you'll ever lose, sincerely yours, Stan đľ đľ
(P.S. I approve of the recent patch. Well done on RNG dungeons Ironmace)
so the more damage we put out as barbs the more health we recieve in blood exhange?
ironmace back hotfix 76 pls
"Games live and DIE based on their casual to hardcore player ratios" That is mostly why i gave them the benefit of the doubt, the sweatlords need the noobs to feel special or the game would die regardless. But maybe im wrong maybe they just pay 100$ for all consmetics every season and IM is onto something :D, they allways said that they never intended it to be this sweatfest
This guys gets it
i can confirm its true, had to reset game and just go back to lobby
wtf is ur profile pic
Also just had this glitch and had to alt f4, if i screenshot it'll just be a loading screen..
why is inferno all hidden now
A screenshot of a loading screen?
yes
Idk if itâs a bug or not but when I swap from an instrument to my weapon I get locked up, I can swing or block and sometimes canât swap what Iâm holding for a few seconds, how do I fix this itâs impossible to play properly
Pavise about to go crazy

No more gear score lobbies is just sad. I was hoping they at least kept squire but no. So now youâll literally die due to be out geared on the daily basis. Just ridiculous this going to push more casuals away. Progression will be harder for people who work and do other things.
So if you play hr now you just need to be geared af
Which floor did it happen on and what map?
@astral frigate or 125, rat your ass off lol
u all enjoying HR with 500+ average gear score ?
When did season 5 begin? and when is it gonna end?
Unless u run away from people
Frr
Why tf would they remove gear score range
@zinc sparrow where
what was the point of removing gear scores?
As a long term player I kinda disagree I would argue it's harder to learn bosses since continuous dungeons were implemented since everyone was boss rushing and just refilling into the lobby to try to fight or rat it. Making the 3 or 4 people you fought back then like 8-9 now
where rookie dungeons
Yea, better loot I can get with my all squire gear barb. Just need 2 cheap epics to reach the gear score
ruins to crpyts on HR
lantershield riposte into shield slam.. who is gonna survive that lol ?
From ruins down to crypts is where i got the glitch
i really like the idea of the lifebloom aura but a little more offensive capability for someone running it would be very nice to have
There is 0 point in trying to play solos at all unless you want to play Barb, Druid, or Rogue.
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I left the game after 20 hours exactly for this reason, now they have brought back the lobbies as they were when I dropped the game
fog of war hell just cooked solos lol
Does that mean I can go in 125 gear and go up against 900gs
Mid-GS lobbies is where the game was most balanced. Removing that is just opening up the impossible to balance high-GS bracket onto everyone. Literally just going to be mechanic abuse in every game now.
WHERE ARE MY DARK AND DARKER đŚ
Welp, looks like we got Emergency downtime coming in
ADD FOG OF WAR AND RANDOM ROOMS TO THE GOBLIN CAVESSSSSSSSSS
Anyways, gotta play and see the changes, no point in speculating
Yes
Some one cant play HR?
removing gs brackets is good, the normals lobby will still be a good place for casuals. high roller is supposed to be high roller
aaa yess 1 brakcet for normals with infinity respawns good idea man good luck farming anyting
Why not js try implementing skill based matchmaking based on ur avg k/d ratio? Js a thought i had.
be a man
Can anyone link what purge shot and lifebloom aura do?
@zinc sparrow 10minutes now waiting for the crypt
Random gen to inferno is crazy tho now i just wont find portals because it takes ages to clear rooms
W patch Forsureyou definitely have a solid point here, I have no argument to that.
Servers are up!
for barbairn the blood exchanges does not work
7:34 am, need to get my ass up to get a few games in before the inevitable downtime to fix the infinite loading screen đđ
Ima stick to rivals until they get rid of infinite matchmaking and one use stairs if they do that removing gear score lobbies is fine
Heâs high roller is back to being high roller letâs gooo
Whould be tough, on my average normals run I don't even meet people, let alone kill or die to them
@zinc sparrow revert both nerf and buff for barb BE
Pavise fighters RISE UP!
How are you making random maps in inferno shits clapped already
Shield fighters rise up
people already min maxing low lobbies sadge
RIP any new player. Not the end of the world for me because I am not new. When I was new tho squire was my go too and I still enjoy the hell out of squire. No losing just because of gear score.
High roller is even worst now too itâll just be fully BIS out people killing you every game and you dying to gear score difference and skill/position issues which will mean dying more which also means casuals enjoy the game less.
There is a reason most people just played under 224 gs high roller and that is because itâs not fun to get smashed by a fully unique team
Blood exchange doesnât work with Achilles cause it doesnât do that much dmg I imagine now?
Also looking forward to min maxed druids, barbs and fighters in my games
Lower the damage on the lantern shield because its gonna be broken with shield bash follow up
wdym be a main they only made 1 bracket for normals whud be fine if it wasent for Contunsusly dungeons and ul ether met squire timmies or giga chad 6k barbarian builds
Still no Druid nerfs đ I guess that unemployed bum popcornnate skates through another patch
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Then make it be based of ur weekly stats, theres surely a way it could work
Bro just buff the wyvern loot already
best armor for bard?
stupd devs stupid decisions , your game wasalready working good , but w/e keep chaning it forever until it dies
Its the best change ever.
guys what is the double stone door?
i like wanderer attire
who remembers the circle in here?
FIX THE GIANTS ON ICE CAVERN THEY LITERALLY TELEPORT BEHIND YOU EVEN IF DODGE
bro didnt pass 4th grade spelling tests holy shit
what are u talking about dude u should be thankfull they do this
We need counter play for healers
Open up the HR season and all is forgiven 
warlock
what is classified as Rookie?
All I'm saying is no-cap HR lobbies preculdes a lot of people from in-game content which is unbelievably shitty to do. If you're going to LOCK ACTUAL CONTENT behind the HR grind you better give everyone a way to do it that isn't a full time job ironmace.
please remove fog of war\
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ppl still running barb + hatchet?
warlock is not counterplay for healers until they give us an anti heal curse
NANI?!??!
W patch good shit
Theyre trying out new stuff and see what works, chill
yes looks like it hardly changed lol its a trash patchh
damn if were going to make inferno random gen we got to ad some of the old Portal spawns back
W patch
is Hatchet still viable?
lmao just killed 2 dudes with shield slam
They fixed nothing. Just added more problems.
i know they are trying to make things better but they make so many mistakes ... who asked a change on gear score sistem who
This community is so childish mane. Overall good patch, but people will find anything to complain about.
True it is still an alpha, they have time to test.
Someone who thinks they need under 24 to actually learn the game mechanics and anything over is unplayable
Forever in alpha LOL
Where the test server tho.
Mid-GS lobbies is where the game was most balanced. Removing that is just opening up the impossible to balance high-GS bracket onto everyone. Literally just going to be mechanic abuse in every game now. Game is being catered to the highest level of play again, more than likely influenced by streamers and content creators.
korean devs
There are multiple
What will be more common in HR now?
- Timmyâs running around
OR - Unique/Artifact out unemployed players
W patch finally fixing broken meta . Anyone who would complain clearly has no skill and requires meta abuse so suck it up and get good at the game
Exactly my thoughts, its gonna be in alpha till they know how they want the game to be
Name checks out
The new players will be farmed either way but they should be farmed due to skill not because they canât make money fast enough to get gear to compete. I hope you realize games with a bad casual experience donât last long. If you want this super hard core experience you also want a game that will slowly continue to lose support until it no longer exists within the new few years.
You need a casual player base because most gamers are casuals NOT no lives.
Yo everyone complaining about these changes so hard @zinc sparrow Bring back circle and random generated portals please for red and blues take away statics đđđ
under 24 loobys are good for casual players or just chill games , not everyone is a tryhard in this game
Bro wtf
This is not influenced by streamers. If balance was influenced by streamers barb would be giga nerfed and so would druid and rogue AS THEY ALL 3 SHOULD BE
guys where the double stone door is situated?
Hahaha these people have no idea what real pain is!
skull key but in normal, but now, random donjon so gl
Skull key room
How are we removing the 24 and bellow bracket again it was so good and nobody wanted the change lol
Chill on the big text in here.
They better buff skull key or good drops
BRING BACK 124 AND 224
Let just hope it won't take too much time.
Blood Exchange is definitely completely worthless now.
Streamer babies ruining DaD yet again
Why is it a problem, oh no you run into someone with 2 blues while being in squire gear poor you
Welp, time to game the system and smurf timmy lobbies for easy boss kills / loot then transfer to my main acc for gold
they dont care about the keys they only give us trashh 90% of the time its just bandade ontop of bandade
Nah buff wyvern artifact drop rate
Final ring and portal spawning across the map type shit đ
How would that even work? Doesn't the new system look only at play time or is it a literal sbmm?
wait so why did they buff the fighter
Only 1 lobby for HR is really not a great decision wtf is wrong with you guys ? Are you actively trying to kill this game or what ...
Because it made the game boring
At one point it was under level 15 lobbies on character level
and here we go again, every single cđşck in this community minmaxing normal games, prob the exact same dudes who traded each other bis in under lvl20 lobbies back then
Be is officially done for
Unpopular change before Unpopular change again no support for new players and sweats gallore lol
SO WE STILL HAVENT RECIEVED ANY COMPENSATION FOR YOU GUYS GIVING OUT LEGENDARY FOR FREE TO PLEBS WHATS GOING ON ?
hope this game dies
Im using a new account to farm the new player lobbies then gonna trade whatever boss loot to my main account
I think doing this helps them save money on dedicated servers, they donât care what you think.
AKA they are going BROKE
Oh boy random inferno is ROUGH boys
No it just encourages you to build more damage/dex
Well random gen still had players spawning next to you, they didnt exactly fix it. Now its in inferno and finding portals is gonna be a hassle i dont think ill ever go inferno now
the new system is grreat! create new accounts go to rookie loobys and stomp! big win!
let me honest here. thats not what its going to be. its going to be squire gear vs min max greens
Wait so does the barb blood exchange change basically mean that they buffed felling axe blood exchange barbs?
Why do you all complain if u were good enough u would not be crying over this a squire kit can beat bis if your good at the game seriously like just get better and deal with it . Losing a lot is nothing get better
âMin max greens.â lol
just got kicked mid game inferno?..
blood exchange unplayable bad now chat stop
Maybe for you but this was a horrible change before and it's a shit change now and making inferno randomized must be some fever dream sdf caught on the way to the office lol
so no cooldown timer for druids shapshifting....holy fucking unbalanced crap.... wow.... literally every single person i speak to in this game hates the druid thinks its op. same with fighter. im simply MIND BLOWN at these changes man
Thats not a reason, tell me WHY people dont like it. âIts badâ isnt a reason, tell me why its bad.
does anyone actaully like random modules and fog of war?
When I swap weapons I sometimes get locked and canât swing/swap what Iâm holding. What is this itâs game breaking.
noobs like it because then they don't have to learn the map, less skill gap for them
All you have to do to fix this money problem is come out with a Harpy skin ironmace. @ a price tag of $19.99
yeah gives people learning bosses a chance to actually get there
Yah I love it
Yes, best change they made yet. Before it, I just rushed all the spawn points near me and then hot spots like bosses
I feel like we could have just undone the buff Blood Exchange got so it was at least still a usable skill did they really need to go this hard
if you ran sorc and stopped after lighting nerf...
if your ran barb and stopped after blood exchange nerf.
you are simply trash at the game. stupid meta players.
I think doing this helps them save money on dedicated servers, they donât care what you think.
AKA they are going BROKE
Random modules is way better for the game
druids shapeshifting i think should remain instant. Its the ability to gorrilla warfare that is on par with cleric heals but you can move while you do it. Just lower the druid heals and they wont push you as much
i haven't been able to buy redstone shards for over a week, what's the deal?
random module and fog is very good for the game
I remember when every-time you went gobbies you had to gamble with your life on which floor portals would spawn. I remember the pain of hearing it spawn right under or over you.
No lol
Druid is a high skill class with little margin for error. If they can express that skill, GG.
WHEN does the high roller season start?/
Games more fun being difficult having no challenge is so stupid. Make the game harder so u have to learn and get better at the game. See how none of the old players or good players cry
Dude we all were new players once. Where no lobbbies existed at all, and the game was fine. I would say it was the best state even. No min-max shit. Either you get stronger or weaker with gear. no greens or blues being more expensive as purple.
AND you can still decide to not engage into a fight, if you think you are lower geared. It makes the game interesting. its not an arena game, its a dangerous dungeoncrawler, and survival is also an aspect. And gearbased games are never balanced.
And im saying this as NOT a good player.
Its about risk management. you can also go with low gear, but disengange and loot other bodies, low risk high reward. or fight higher geared players, high risk high reward. the game was so much more fun in the ppast. dropping a juicer was just magical. and you CAN kill people with higher gear. One fireball hit is enough to kill all gear disparity.
That shit was fun as hell
i do bc i dont just instantly rush bosses like alot of people
Guys anyone know how much the Hatchet dmg got adjusted?
@glad thunder please change longsword to not have block anymore. block on longsword works on everything in the game. add something that isnt able to do that. thanks.
42 max lego to 39 max lego
where do you find iron door on ruins map? its for the iron tight quest
this game kinda sucks now with people maxing at 124 just rolling people
I ain't reading that shit change once again and squire might as well be removed lol
I love it lol, makes it interesting
was 2200 in arena before patch. 1150 after patch????? then i won me first game and lost 50????? working as intended?
124 pretty cheap tho
has a new class since druid released
This! lower druids heals and then they will reconsider restarting and pushing endlessly
sorcerer
bro why am i crashing when going hell still wthhhhhhhhh
Random/fog of war is S tier BiS
I prefer the 0 to 24 and 25 to 124 lobbies it's more fair for newer players or players I killed someone when I had a blue longsword and a lot of true damage and he had basic squire gear
what is the new ranger perk
under bridge past the golem on first floor, and treasure room and wheel on crypts, think there is one in the hallways module in inferno too i forget the name and not 100% sure on that
You can easily max at 124 for like 1,000 gold bro đ itâs not that hard too do and more than attainable for even casuals.
People already did this before? Why are you finding excuses for being bad at the game
This is why the devs are in charge. Squire is a good mechanic for all players. Especially since its tied to quest so its more incentive.
Will i lose my looted gear in the arena?????????
FFS
being able to shift, go over walls, under doors, makes them literally uncatchable. combine their heal, they reset every fight no matter what. i main ranger, and the first arrow he goes invis and continues hitting me with spells.....oh "kite" then, well how, he chickens, then panthers then bears, and continues no matter what.... i will argue this to death. Druid is Broken! Going from a chicken on the run with no hp, to a bear with over 200 then being able to go back to human form without healing is ass to.
Thank you bro. I honestly love these new gs and fog of war on inferno. If they just keep it the same forever this shit will die lol need to keep it interesting
Yeah time to take a break from this game 0 nerf to barb and now i am going to get gear check in normals and in highroller
random dungeon sucks
That's like 1 green 2 hander and 2 green pieces of gear. 
Honestly maybe squire will get more gear down the line for uncommons
doesn't really matter anymore though, since if you go in wearing squire gear you're gonna be fighting folks going in at gearscore 124
Wrong.
Buff Iron Fist


Iâm worried about gear checking in high roller now
so it doesnt matter to have default green gear without the stats? I think it makes big help. Gear or not. Im confident I can get geared players.
You should be
gear checking is part of the game and what makes going into a dungeon interesting.
I do, i spent like 5 days trying to find dark ritual room, and survive.. getting pissed because of continuious dungeon and the 8-10 min timer on inferno.
well first random duneon and i drop inferno 9:20 on the timer start feeling stressed already. clear a dog and 2 mummys open the door guess what, its the dark ritual room. AND theres a portal open in the center so survived quest complete
im all ears, explain to me how im "wrong"
Yeah well tbh I didn't ask you so if you want some cash
cant wait to gear check brokies
Now fighters running around with shielbash and pavise
people who have 2-300+ hours probably love it, as for new players i think its BS, as a new player im not touching crypts, inferno or any other map it gets implemented on. Right now im just happy i got the game for free and didnt wast money on this shit
Which merchant crafts the spectral coinbag?

So now a 30gs can run into a 700gs? How is this a good idea for matchmaking?
thanks
smart man.
No, you canât
2-300 hours is a new player xD
"Never bite the hand, of the one that fingers you...
something like that"
I diagnose you with skill issue
Reread this and tell me how it makes sense
personally I find it a bit annoying on inferno surviving is already an semi annoying thing to do imagine having to run around the whole place trying to find a blue
rip kit
Mid-GS lobbies is where the game was most balanced. Removing that is just opening up the impossible to balance high-GS bracket onto everyone. Literally just going to be mechanic abuse in every game now. Game is being catered to the highest level of play again.
Joining matches in progress sucks.
wow no sht I wonder what "new player stands for" Go stroke ur ego some where else.
Somehow this seems like it will become bannable later on..
Bwahahahaha
major rogue balance waaaaaaaaaw now we can throw smoke and caltrups insane
Why would it be good with the new change just run anything else and it's better no point for him anymore the gear bracket dosent exist to uphold him anymore any dog greens you put on are better
whatâs the best named item to buy in terms of affordability and demand?
Ah. Communities being self important and accelerating the death of their casual playerbase and thus their game. A tale as old as time.
Mid-GS lobbies is where the game was most balanced. Removing that is just opening up the impossible to balance high-GS bracket onto everyone. Literally just going to be mechanic abuse in every game now. Game is being catered to the highest level of play again. (I AGREE AND I HAVE 2000+ HOURS WITH FULL BIS LEGENDARY KITS)
Why cant i exit straight from death cam back into lobby. it's already frustrating that you died why add on the extra step
Here we go back to gear checking 0 nerf on barb time to review bomg
agree HR is going to suck again trying to fight dudes with full legendary kits that are alreayd way better at this game then i will ever be
Let's keep in touch. Play druid for a week and see how well you do. Let me know how many times you die to skele archers, fireballs, spike traps, just literally any class that is also a competent player. Druid requires a lot of skill and coordination to play at that high level and to be able to pull that off, they should be rewarded with the win.
0-124
124++
Go Read
"THE RISK REWARD SYSTEM HAD UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES"
This is simply the case when ANY video game tries to do ANY matchmaking at all, period. The reason why is because implementing a matchmaking system is catering to a victim mindset and victim mentality ALWAYS backfires. that's why theres not a single game in history that has ever made an MMR system that can't be exploited.
The golden age of gaming had server browsers and literally 0 MMR. We do not need to have carebear matchmaking systems just because the blue hair participation trophy gamers cry every time they die.
BRO TF IS THIS GAME
because you can run any gear on any character and still fight like the best of them.
it's bad on any floor for that same reason, running around hoping for rng for a res shrine, blue, red, quest objectives, etc. it's just awful feeling having no control over where you're going
i have 2 maybe 3 hours each day to play im not going to waste my time on ths shit. i would rather play something that respect my time
Ok so a 124gs running into a 700gs how is that any different?
Fighter buff... are you fucking kidding me
make it so you start at 125 gear score with squire gear and the game will be fixed đŻ
Make fog of war Module based
"We have also decided to adjust the matchmaking pools based on the result of recent player behavior. The continuous matchmaking (CMM) system has greatly improved player agency when it comes to risk/reward decisions in the dungeons. However, as a side-effect of the new risk/reward relationship, the current gear-score divisions have started having the opposite effect of what we intended. Instead of serving as stepping stones for newer players, the lower gear score divisions have become killing grounds with bloodthirsty players having little to lose."
Are you on the spectrum or something ? how does this change will not result in more "killing grounds", now instead of having new players and squire kit enjoyers have a somewhat fair fight with players at a similar gear score, they will now have to face min maxxed players, and if they want to run some of their just looted gear they have to go in HR where they will encounter players in absolute bissssss while they are in piss. HOW CAN YOU PUSH SOMETHING LIKE THIS ON LIVE SERVERS...
felling axe blue, 3 all attribute necklace ring and green adventurer boots and tunic for perfect 124 gear score, based game
W PATCH
BRING BACK paid gear for arena
bro said 300 hrs lol who's going to tell them we at 2,500+
so why did we not only make barbarians racecars but also fighters literal jets
Idk the infinite gear hr is not fun. 224 made high roller way more balanced if ur not swimming in gold
it should but realistically, they have no way to differentiate a new acc between a new player and a smurf
as someone whos been mainly playing 225+ ... pooling everyone above 125 is a BAD IDEA.
the whole purpose of 224 was that you can build a kit and not worry about full unique players gear diffing you now ... its GGs.
they added that to HR too? oh god
anyone know if they are aware of luck not working? lol. been 2 patches no mention of it
no it isnt just get better and quit crying
I agree
Well 224s are gone and they are the only thing that kept me playing gg ironmace looks like imma sit out this season. Ty @glad thunder @zinc sparrow
So hell is map hidden and procedular now...
why in the world would they buff fighter he already needs a insane nerf i don't understand the logic behind that
then stay in the lower lobbies if you have a problem with it. you don't need to have 36 queues stop crying.
moved some numbers back and forth again nice........
Me when my budget HR kit cant do anything against some sweat with named uniques
Find a happy Dark and darker player after patch notes challenge:impossible
So how does the "rookie system" work?
The game respects your time more than ever, learning every mod and every modules is a big advantage versus players who dont
Because they dont listen to the community and love barbarian/fighter đ
W PATCH FOR REAL $ TRADERS, GO HAM FARMERS IRON MACE SUPPORTS YOU LMAO
Love you guys but some of you are acting like 124 gear score makes you powerful. Literally 1 green weapon and 2 pieces of green gear. The gap between white and green isn't much. Just practice the game and equip your greens instead of hoarding them.
Yea there's a reason why every bracket was full because everyone knows and finds what they enjoy and the infinite dungeon fixed the issue of "lack of players making this change just accelerates every match to a fornite battle Royale idk about this
Bring back brackets
Already shit
Mid-GS lobbies is where the game was most balanced. Removing that is just opening up the impossible to balance high-GS bracket onto everyone. Literally just going to be mechanic abuse in every game now. Game is being catered to the highest level of play again.
thats such a shit answer. I played the class, Ive played every class. I had some good runs, but im also not to proud to admit when something is op. Obvy we wont gain any ground here. have a good day
I'm just going to play landmine rogue in HR now F this
**W PATCH AND THEY DID IT BEFORE THE SOAPY TOURNAMENT LETS GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE DEVS â¤ď¸ â¤ď¸ â¤ď¸ **
patch sure works fine got a error mid crypts and it just puts me back into the lobby with my loot didnt even have to find a blue 
So now that 224 is gone, is hr only for people that have been grinding since wipe day? I play other games too i dont want to dedicate myself to this in order to play
What are the axe đŞ damage changes? Can't log to game now just want to know?
0-124gs is fine , the problem is the 125+ being grouped up. There needs to be something in between for people who arent in all legendaries coming in to roll the whole lobby
what are the hidden changes this time ?
U realize knowing exactly how the map is build instead of random rooms makes it way easier for experienced players to minmax flank etc? Knowing the map inside out before they even enter a dungeon
Nah but what if Iâm just a squire kit enjoyer and I donât want to have to make a bunch of kits just to play the game
Its the same with anti-cheat debates, even if they could differenciate, you are asking them to put time and money into banning paying customers, they probably discover that smurfs and cheaters are a great way to make money if you dont ban them too much, just like Counterstrike did.
+1
yeah same its a joke
it does though I faced multiple squire geared players whilst I had full plate 2 true damage and a rare longsword with phys dmg bonus. guess what? they didn't stand a chance
I suggest you quit baiting I've reported you to the moderation team and expect you to behave as according to any member of the community here
You can wear a full true dmg set are u new?
when i roll you in a full unique kit, i dont want to hear no crying from you then lmao '
NEED HELP If i transfer to steam will i be able to play with people still on the blacksmith client?
Does anyone know if luck is working yet?
They did stand a chance, actually.
yes
always has been, you just unlucky
thats the thing you wont and if u do its gg it is what it is
It's almost like stat checking people has no counter-play after a certain point. Huh, totally not an intentional interaction I'm sure.
does barbarian not heal 20000 hp anymore? or is it Fellings and Zweis now?
pickpocket 125 gs rogue đ
Maybe IP bans?
I dunno, but i feel like they will find a way
Or even the report system, flawed as it is
I think it should be norms, low roller, mid roller, high roller. allowing for groups around low roller 25-124 mid roller 125-224 high roller 225-500 Inferno 500+ dungeon selections. @glad thunder
Yeah cool, other than whats the point of removing squire gear? Giving the excuse that it's "farming lower levels" is stupid because making it 0-124 literally doesn't fix that at all. It probably makes it worse. Now lower level players will go in with squire gear bc again they don't know how to play the game and higher levels will go in with gear AND be better than them mechanically.
forceful shot bug fixed?
Why are people so rude in this discord and aren't nice to SDF and Graysun
4 druids in a match yay
thanks u too
yeah i do thats not the issue, if i do go into crypts there is a large chance i dont come out atm becaus i dont know the rooms and which ones have exits, so i will not go down
is the game up ?
Squire geared players will now loot little before beelining for PvP how is that not better lol
agreed.
Honestly if youâre paying $30 for legendary on each account I donât think ironmace will ever care
THEY ARENT GOING TO GIVE YOU ANY STOP BROWN NOSING
ah yes the 3.5 percent chance they manage to dodge all my swings sure
cant believe the armorsmith wants 6k worth of pelts, what a greedy jerk
GOD BLESSED SIR SDF, YOU AGAIN BUFFED MY BARBARIAN, SO NOW I IMMORTAL. NOBODY WILL DECREASED MY HEALTHBAR EVEN BY 1 POINT THX!
extraction games attract whiners
have a good day!
Yeah but then streamers and content creators can't easily abuse the playerbase for more content farming. What's the point of playing the game full time if you can't shit on people without the same luxury?
Ok, from what i see, they ACTUALLY added some form of hidden mmr to the game
You're in full plate with 82% MS with sword out. If they let you catch them, that's bad on them good on you.
@sharp vigil
Haha tried to get back into this game while on deployment and I was having a blast lol
Entertainment can come from other sources in this game
Healer Druid broken now
to be completely fair, there are a ton of people who go into 0-24 that are mechanically superior but incredibly scared to play anything +25 because they enjoy noob stomping
also finding blues is literally not hard anymore- by the time your first fight rolls around, chances are youâve found 1-2 blues which causes your GS to spike to like 40-50+, so technically nothing is really changing bracketwise
Vocal minority. Most people are in-game having fun and focusing on their goals and don't typically voice their opinions. Angry, disgruntled and opinionated people are the ones you'll see here. There's usually a few people who want to be kind and helpful, but they usually leave because of all the nonsense as it's very frustrating. Sooo you're left with the jerks, whiners and generally negative people. Just my opinion though.
An issue with dungeon recovery has been discovered and will be disabled for the time being.
What's missing from the patch notes :Your existing Arena MMR will be reset to test the new MMR calculation method before the season.
"new" players are in the rookie queue and not getting sweat on by vets in squire gear now.
Naughty gobbo must have been duping!
just had the exact same issue, w IM, every patch a newfound bug
YEA CLERICS are trash healers too makes no sense
WHAT GAME DOESNT HAVE THEM GET OVER IT PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO COMPLAIN STOP FEEDING INTO THAT CRAP
awesome lol I tanked my MMR last season playing support cleric
hmm miss old gear score brackets
I cant swap weapons now in game. Great
I'm being facetious
SAME
ROCK AND STONE YEAAAAAAA
Haha tried to get back into this game while on deployment and I was having a blast lol Then this gear score change and I literally only run into mfrs who have no life dude, like I just wanna run a casual raid. ggs. it was a good attempt to retry the game guys, have a good one
i love the update says its to help new players - randomizing maps, blackening maps, increasing gear score to play with HIGHER geared people(not just looted gear, going in with sets) super fun update
this new gs is ass i cant level my character
STONE!
bro this 0-124 it fdup
Not a game for casu
@glad thunder nice hatchet changes. nice shield bash 90dmg love changes)))
didnt know, my bad. but yeah, streamers that are good will love the change that I want implemented
I WASBT TRYING TO IVE REPORTED YOU TO THE MODS
frr đđđ
Why would you run squire gear when you can run any green and be better lol
I kinda like the change 0 to 124
@glad thunder pass the torch bro, stop killing the game, give it to another company
Yall need to find 24 hours to not complain about something. Almost every issues complained about the last few days was addressed this patch. The chat should be filled with the same level for it as they were againt it. Instead yall complaining about people joining with 124 gear.... Some of yall need therapy because you could be handed the lottery and 5 puppies and still find something to complain about.
0-124 is goated
GS changes are good
why is the game so dead?
0-124 is a huge W, I agree đđť
Problem is the people that agree you dont hear from. You only see the complainers typing
The changes promote early leaving gameplay
Ohhhh the new skill purge shot looks pretty cool. Any thoughts?
I think this is going to be frustrating to play against if you're a cleric, fighter or barbarian.
I think the worst part of this update is HR 124 players in whatever gear they manage to scrounge up in the dungeon or barely afford in the market facing off against 224 people who spend thousands upon thousands of gold on the absolute best gear possible
I think the change gives noobs an opportunity to wear some gear without feeling like they need to take it off after every match to get under 24GS.
I'm not where you seen them said they would remove squire gear.
Base stats of white vs greens aren't that different. You get one roll.
It's equipping 3 greens to get to 100+gs. (Weapon 2 equip) It's not that serious.
Also given the time of this change, high level players will be in HR when leaderboards drop.
Not a bad time for a change like this.
Genuine question, how does the update address the current problem with barb?
People think 124 is fucking purples and blues, nah dog thatâs like two blue pieces and the rest green.
Ppl play under 25 because broken balance of items. If barb gets green bardiche - they have literally +8 base damage. Its INSANE huge boost after scaling and calculations, compare to just white gear.
If wizard wear green spellbook they got just +1.
"Blah blah blah ppl scared" <- imagination; dumb malance -> realty
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Let's be real, the only reason people like 0-124 is because they can buy a max 124 set for 1k because they can solo most bosses easily. Then you use that gear to smash on squire kids and feel good about yourselves. 0-24 was the most balanced thing ironmace has done.
Its free. Why would anyone want it removed when it isnt a problem? people that enjoy the changes are usually the silent majority.
The healing skill they have got nerfed + hatchet (the most op barb weapon) got nerfed too
Squire gear was the only reason I played. It was just fun
nolife sweats are so happy they get to roll their faces on their keyboards in HR again. Yay PvP slog game waste hours achieving nothing yay
hard disagree, the one time i left the 24 bracket me and the girlfriends got hard stomped by people with way better gear. we're used to being skill checked, being skill checked and gear checked at the same time was too much
<24 was most balanced think in the game RIP
@glad thunder change blood exchange its a dead ability now
For all new players: the new fastest way to make money is to just spawn with your squire gear(get all instruments in utility slot) just run to extract and open 1 or 2 chests, extract and sell your squire kit to the merchant. This patch is really gonna improve new player experience!
W patch tbh but fighter buff seems kinda random
The
you are assuming that no one else loots at all
brother loot in normals is insane, EVERYONE gets loot. what im saying is starting 0-24 doesnt matter when everyone gets blues greens for just breathing on mobs, it makes the bracket almost irrelevant
its time for people to stop being scared and stop using the âmuh new peopleâ as an excuse when in reality they just wanna kill timmies too
What does the new druid perk do guys
Hatchet barbarian was very oppressive toward every class. Very fast, big damage, huge heals with blood exchange. The changes seem to give more room for counter play now and also seems like it gives the barbarian more room to play with bigger slower weapons (as they offer bigger heals for landing hits)
NOBODY CARES
Where are are the exits in hell? not a single blue lol
Yup, but making counter-productive decisions that negatively impact the player base is staple for IM
the devs mention how they want new people to play but they get rid of a 24 bracket in norms lmao SDF vision is so bad
So... To exchange blood you need to spend 10% of HP... But in order to simply recoup this 10% of health you need to beat to death a Barbarian of the same thickness... Somehow it doesnât turn out very profitable... Or did I not understand something?
anyone gettng the glitch where you cant stow away your weapon or change your equip slot? this is seriously gamebreaking
Hatchet wonât heal much with Blood Exchange and fighter is buffed so the hatchet barb will suffer against fighter. Especially if the hatchet animation fix works.
@last spoke itâs really easy to get the gear for a 124s kit it costs like 500g for a decent one. Also people in higher brackets are better so itâs good for improving to fight there
The squire kit can be sold for gold now ?
i wanted to play 124 normals but its empty so to 0-24 to stomp people ç
I just dont understand why they had to take away 0-24. Just add the 25-100 lobby option
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Way better gear isn't in sub 124 GS lobbies. Did you go to 225+ high roller?
God dang brother 3 green pieces of gear does not make any character OP to the point where they roll everyone.
I tihnk the second part of this change needs to arrive like now, the newbie dungeon (restricted to just novices based on whatever), without it this is like p1ssing in the w1nd
Wrong.
how do i q for the new player pool?





