#game-discussion
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for plate helmets, leathersmith and tailor will give you leather and cloth helmets
quick Q: what do I do with candy corn ? I have no idea on how good randoms effects are and which stats to look for.
use them at the event merchant for weapons and armor
I got that much however when I check the merchant it gives epic or legendary items, as I am a new player I don't use any high level gear since I went into the normal gamemode with some greens and several veterans rushed me at spawn and straight out killed me multiple times.
Should I buy stuff and sell on the auction house or sell the candy directly ? I have no idea what additional effects are good on which items.
you can do either
best rolls for weapons is usually add weapon damage and phys damage/power for any melee stuff, and for any caster stuff its magic healing and magical damage
hp/vigor/agility are universally good rolls but certain pieces will be better with certain stats
some weapons and armor are also more sought after than others, IE loose trousers with good rolls will sell for a lot more than plate pants with good rolls
What’s the best stats to build for fighter
Depends what you want to do. If you have sprint, you can get away with 285 unarmed ms
Ok I’m trying to go with shield fighter
its funny how stupid warlocks can have a insane dmg buff attack but fighter gets a measly 25% phys with a chance to heal if it kills 
is it just me or is parry a littlebit too strong? I understand that its a skill check, but still, should it not be tuned down a little bit? It's not impossibly hard to pull off a parry after some practice.
What are your thoughts on ranged combat?
It's fun!
you need to learn how to drag your weapon in order to not hit the longsword, most fighters will just stand in place so it is super easy.
depends on the weapon, but yeah.
some are easier to parry than others.
all 3 opponents in arena were full PDR...couldn't kill any of them.
The game, it is unbalanced!
what class were you playing?
Zweu Barb
You should be able to deal with that, hmmm what skills?
New wipe soon i hope
Pickpocket in arena is troll. I don't understand how they havent fixed that yet
Zwei is a rather difficult weapon to master, try to practice a lot of tech, and dragging stuff with that Weapon.
I like to run zwei fighter and it is hella fun to learn how to manipulate that huge sword.
Parry damage is too high, but that's intentional. It's to keep the weapon "viable", even with desync sometimes making parry not "register" at all.
thats fine, but all it takes is for them to touch your swing with a block and they get a massive dmg bonus. Like they can jsut tank the swing as long as they touch yuor weapon with their sword and they basically one shot you after
If you are facing shields, you can always switch to a war maul and crush them over and over.
i was talkinb about the longsword parry
Ehh... Kind of? The thing is that even if they do "touch your weapon" it doesn't always work (desync). On a lot of weapons they still get damaged, even if they do parry you. And it takes a lot of "skill" to parry some weapons.
It also has like 40% armour pen or something like that, so it's a great can opener.
Try hitting the feet and then move the camera to the right quickly, this way you hit them outside of the parry area, and back a little, then you can repeat, if they stop trying to parry, you just continue with the combo.
thats what im saying. It doesnt matter if they block you or not they can still connect and that makes the trade worth it for them
"It doesnt matter if they block you or not they can still connect and that makes the trade worth it for them"
What? What do you mean by "they still connect"? I'm saying, that even if they touch your weapon, they don't always get the parry (even if they should), they also get damaged by your attack anyway.
there are crazy ways to manipulate a zweihander, it is pretty fun to do!
@glad thunder Where's the fuck is the patch?
Delayed, because time is wasted on sifting trough all the useless @ mentions. lol
@glad thunder Where's the patch? @tepid quarry will suck you off again if you post it soon.
Man, don't involve me in your fantasies, please. At least, don't share them here, lol. 🤢
@zinc sparrow why does the squire not carry darkgrove robe for druid
Its been a week since i left server due to terrible armor change and i came back because thank god they fixed it
im saying they dont care if they take damage or not as long as they are able to make the wepaons meet. Since their dmg boost is so massive it outdamages the dmg they tank for free
lol u want to give every nolifer even more of an edge against the casual players xdd
Pretty much, yeah. The point is to not get parried, drag the attacks and such. They in a way need that damage bonus, because parry mechanic is broken and doesn't register always, even if it should. I imagine that they'll nerf parry damage to something like 140%-150% when parry is fixed.
any type of interaction can have desync. The same goes for shield blocks or even regular wepaon hits on players. Even if its more prevanlent for longsword parries, you cant balance the game around desync
True, but LS parry suffers more. It's not only the desync, but also weapon hitboxes, and differences in first person and third person animations. Shield is mostly only a problem with "poky" weapons, but that can be played around by good spacing. LS players looking for parry have to commit 100% and they risk just taking the full damage, it going trough their block and the parry they had to have, just not working. I think that desync on LS is way worse than on most weapons.
Even if that is the case you cannot have stats or values that compensate for unintended mechanics like desyncs. When you balance the game, you have to assume that the mechanics operate as intended. If they don't you have to work to fix the issue. If you can't solve the issue, then you have to remove the item or accept that no one will ever pick it up because it's an unreliable weapon. You can't just overtune the values so that the weapon becomes viable whenever it happens to work. Then you basically just have an rng oneshot stick.
Maybe? I mean they could just balance the weapon and it wouldn't be played anymore, because it's an "ok" weapon that doesn't work all the time. They're trying to fix the desync/hitboxes/etc. but it is what it is.
I never felt that parry is unfair, tho. I play shield fighter and I always assumed that if I got parried it was my fault, so I'm fine with the current state as is.
I'm fine with mechanics that reward skill like being able to parry an incoming attack. I just think the damage is overtuned. Just the ability to block with a 2h weapon is in itself pretty good and something not many 2h weapons have. The ability to block and answer with a counterattack is even better. Then having a weapon that allows you to block, counter attack and then rewards you with bonus damage on top,thats really good. But that damage should not in my opinion be so overwhelmingly strong as it is right now. In most cases hitting a longsword block is certain death.
? What is the average gear score in arena?
I'm running 250, and get the message need to increase gear score.
between 10 to 3000
If you think about the layering a melee fight vs a LS fighter, you basically have to only aim for his legs to be certain that you do not accidentally hit is sword. If he knows this he can basically just do normal weapon combo on your head while you are swinging at his legs. The moment you try to trade fairly by going for his head he can block and get a massive damage output on you that you just cannot outtrade.
halberd poopy on longsword
There's two brackets one 124 and below. Anything higher is people running full bis
Ah okay, thanks mate.
So, I don't really have much experience with most weapons in this game. But for me a Flanged mace worked really well dragging the attacks into their body around their parry. Also, it's not that hard to block the parry with heather shield, but maybe shield fighter is just a counter to LS? Idk.
Just got a legendary pair of riveted gloves
- 2 Dexterity
- 2 Physical Power
- 1 True Physical Damage
- 1% Max Health Bonus
Whaddya think it's worth?
check out the collectors guild discord servers. They have channels where you can post items and ask for price check.
Noted.
sounds like a really really good pair of gloves tho. I'm sure its worth multiple thousands. perhaps 10k?
compare it on the market
Found it in the fucking goblin caves on a death beetle, nearly spat out my drink
i see you listed it for 5k. I think it might be worth more. But its also the question of how long you are willing to wait for it to sell
I got all the time in the world, lol
Will this game go on sale this holiday season? I want to buy it for a pal
I tihnk you can get more than 5k honestly.
it went on sale for chinese new year this year and that's the only time its been on sale
Probably. But honestly, 5k is more than I'd know what to do with for the time being lol
I also got a +11 armor rating buckler so I'm happy about that too
You can play the game for free on Steam in limited form, let him try it first
guys is it fair to trade a golden key and bag for a spectral coin bag
I'd ask around in VCs
in tavern bar?
Yeah
Or any channel really
consider it purchased 😉
does anyone understand when the goblin insurance and expressman are supposed to show up after a raid? It feels so random to me. In theory it could just show whenever a layer is closed(for goblin) or when you leave raid(expressman), but it always shows up way way later. Are they following the cycle of the merchants renewal?
whenever the dungeon/server closes. so when the last person extracts. and a slight delay like 20seconds or so after that.
why are the servers so shit
give everyone a churchwarden pipe. smoking is cool as hell. let the wizards smoke.
ruins sucha dog water map
How much HP does 1 Vigor give you?
22 hours remain for Arena
wtf
Swap gear with the Squire, you can see there.
game just stopped for everyone and mobs killed me with 20k kit
tyvm
now some1 is looting that shi wtf is this game
Same, I'm pissed dude
Lols, GS <124 Arena, just watched a Rogue Face stab the other team dead in under 2 minutes
anyone wanna buy skeleton key 6gk
anyone else's game crashing pretty constantly? i9-13900 and 4070ti
whens wipe
whats bis headgear for a bard
2 weeks
Hello I've been having problems with my game audio being muffled and not spacially correct, hasn't been like this the hundreds of hours I played, and there isn't much of the way for audio options, any tips?
ayo do you lose gear in arena?
im just getting d dos off the game 3 times in a row
If it's gear you found by yourself in the dungeon (That you extracted with, expressman don't count) or crafted yes. It have to gzt the "Found by You" at the bottom
What rolls should I look for when trying to do more damage with ray of darkness?
I have older cpu and 4070ti and nothing on my side. You can try thing like this #game-discussion message or try to open a ticket #discord-help / contact @dusky trout
Appreciate it
Hello, I would like one day to have an event where only rangers and mages have ranged attacks, all the others should attack up close, and that the 15hp is returned, It would be interesting to see, epic battles, face to face, And of course it improves the logic of shield defense, and removes the 1hitkill mechanics.
Definitely True magical
damn alr thanks
That's kinda what most player want (me included) but SDF want lower TTK. Imo removing most ranged option of figther, bard, rogue or at least locking them behind perk (Like ranger 'eed a perk to use the spear? Ok then figther have a perk to use all weapon with less damage, bard got one to use surv bow and rogue one to use hand crossbow ) and increasing TTK would be really cool or at least interesting to try for a while
I want higher basic hp for all classes and more inventory slots for each 5/10 levels above level 20. I would sign petition for that
And the perk don't need to be "Give acess to the weapon and give a bit more damage" it can be something else. Like Bard can use surv bow and have slitghly more arrow to shot before reloading, Rogue can dual wield hand crossbow and reload them a bit faster if he do (with an animation that reload both but take a bit of time)
Make it a suggestion here https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/ and/or upvote this one https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/591702/incentivize-using-the-test-server-by-rewarding-and-including-players
where can i find the different gear score brackets?
and does hr have the same caps as norms
Can anyone like watch some of my clips and like explain and try to help me about the game bc im kinda new
And idrk wtf is going on tbh
in game it says you can lose non-minted items in arena - is this no longer true?
Yeah Zwei is pretty fun
Oops my bad for necroposting, I didn't realize I was scrolled up 4 hours lol
I'd be down to play and try and help you learn the game. I was just about to hop on for some casual games. Also is that a cat drooling in your pfp? 😸
If you lose connection and come back but are dead, do you get your gear back?

Yes it is
I don't think you do if someone killed you and looted your stuff. I think if mobs kill you you might be able to goblin merchant your stuff back?
lmao my cat drools too, it's kind of annoying. That's a heckin massive drool though, she just gets wet around her mouth and gets my clothes wet 🤤
😂 she so silly
Nah. Just lost connection and died but reconnected and gear was there but never got it back. It was last 2 minutes of hell.
Must consider you quitting the game, then. You don't get your gear back if you quit.
No Insurance and no expressmen because if you close the client you never gear back.
what are you struggling with/what class are you playing?
Also, are you sure that the game session was over when you checked expressman/gobbo? If the lobby was still active (i.e. players still in dungeon) you won't see those items until the match has ended.
Idk what class i wnana play thats the problemo
I think the best class to learn on is fighter
Didn't quit out, close the client. I reconnected back because I lost connection.
I understand, but the game treats it the same as if you had quit the game manually instead of crashing.
From the server's perspective, it does not know that you crashed. It simply knows that the client (you) has terminated connection to the server.
Yeah. I got back in and looked at my friend looking at my body.
Ranger is also pretty easy to learn, using rations can be helpful if you're new. I think Fighter is for sure the most newb-friendly class.
I just made a fighter yea
I dont like ranger bc my aim is bad and my duo is ranger
Fair enough, ranger/fighter is really strong.
BAN TRaps
Naw man, pay attention to the ground. Traps are great.
oh i see em bro
then jump over/disarm them/go another way?
but when they put 20 in a door way shi nuts
lmao that's a bit excessive, yes.
when will next wipe be
are the DnD servers getting DDOSed? a mummy spider killed me because I lagged so much I couldn't walk
yea im still tryna find out whats right for m
Honestly I'm not sure if Ranger or Fighter need a specific nerf or if bows just need a nerf across the board. Like seems silly that a longbow can hit effectively as hard as a zweihander and do it from 50+ft away
games
What do u think they could do to make Ice Cavern a more desirable map to play, cause i can almost never find matches on it.
are servers gettinf ddosed
in arena is there any gearscore matchmaking?
Warlock is really fun, so is Wiz and Druid. Rogue can be fun but it's challenging af.
Ice Cavern suffers from "every room is a square" syndrome. This is true for every map in that it is modular and each module is a square, but what is inside the square usually differs. With Ice Caverns most of the rooms do, in fact, simply feel like a giant square. And that makes it fairly boring.
Did the game reversed back to the old way for stats and gear rarity?
If you mean hotfix 68, mostly yes. Double max health is gone though.
i cant be any spell character
por que` no
Wizard is pretty straight forward. You can even use a crossbow.
demon form < literally any class except maybe rogue.
no i liteally cant my brain
you prob would like barbarian then, very no brain
rogue, wizard [+15hp]
ranger, cleric, bard, warlock, druid [+10hp]
fighter, barb [stay nerfed]
fixed
1 last for HR easy and fast point, exmplar 1 in 4 days atm
so - was there just no patch this week or what?
Not this week. Letting things settle I suppose
Bruh… can’t find a single tri game…
But i so slow
but.... SMASH
Barbarian literally a brain-killer, because he only scream and charged at the enemy.
Does anyone know why I can’t buy redstone it says because of fraud detection
but snail
If you pick squire gear that has +agility, you will move faster. Also don't wear a chest piece, and pay attention to -move speed on items like weapons and armor.
barb go zoom zoom not snail
Nuh uh
yuh huh
I like ur pfp
speaks truth
thanks :3 i like ur cat
ya zoom zoom
Thank you
what y'all think is the strongest bis 3v3 comp rn
punis and part
Does anyone know why I can’t buy redstone in the store it either doesn’t do anything or it will say because of fraud detection
Is the implement of gear score lobbies already in effect? I qued in with 180 gear score but i got killed by a rogue with full true kit 400 gear score?
Does anyone know which merchant gives banshee quest?
Turn vpn off or message technical support
ya?
ranger ranger ranger
cleric fighter barb
Cleric wiz bard
am i allowed to teamkill a friend that always takes all the loot?
Any one get an "The game has been temp halted due to adverse threat to the network of the server" error?
Sadly no
wizards fireball should NOT be allowed to damage anything on the other side of a surface from which the fireball lands, for example, if someone is above me on a bridge of somekind and i fireball the bottom of the bridge beneath his feet, it should NOT damage him at all. very confusing how this is still in the game after all this time
how is magic missile still in the game as it is? the magic class just beats any melee class when they finally fucking catch up? needs some kind of damage scaling based on distance, closer = less damage at least the first meter or somethign, fuck
shrek is alive and well
how much is sk going for atm
@umbral olive wow that sounds like something they could also apply to the ranger class in reverse. Also thats a very risky play on the wizards part to just sit still and magic missile without moving, usually they are smart about it and wear you down and know that if you just W key in for the kill they can just blast you down.
Hello, I would like one day to have an event where only rangers and mages have ranged attacks, all the others should attack up close, and that the 15hp is returned, It would be interesting to see, epic battles, face to face, And of course it improves the logic of shield defense, and removes the 1hitkill mechanics.
chat dead 🤤
Blud
Oh yea make the two already broken ranged classes even worse to deal with , great
An event where all classes became wizards and shit fireballs everywhere would be silly
anyone else dying to wyvern phase changes despite being beind ice block during p1 and p2
buff ranger
anybody want a broken warlord sword? 2 gold key
rogue, wizard [+15hp]
ranger, warlock [+10hp]
druid, cleric, bard [+5hp]
fighter, barb [stay nerfed]
any1 having immense server lag
Yea
Did they remove the braket
literally just did a high roller solo on oce servers and there was about 7 or 8 people all standing on the ruins bridge talking in mandarian as soon as they seen me they all chased me... 7 teamers this is happenign everyday allday please do something about this its becoming more then a joke and ruining the game.
any1 else getting adverse network threats message in their game?
record it and report it .... dont expect your problems to be solved automatically bro...
The devs are aware of OCE cheater problem
Game is dead pdr fighter/barb killed the game ggs
I feel like im doing troll great but i just keep getting hit by the splash damage on his basic slam, am i just standing too close?
Teaming is bannable now in HR, so your best shot is to record them and report them here #in-game-reports
Is there like a good intro document? I found this game in my library and it looks cool but i don't get how it actually works. After 5 times spawning into some lobby and trying to get out of the dungeon with just a couple of trinkets and regularly being killed by enemies that would make a 1st level bard laugh his ass off, i decided to quit the "let's try it" and employ a "let's find out"-approach.
How is game dead
does weak point work on wyvern?
No, all mobs have -20 pdr
There's the spells and guns dark and darker wiki, but if you're dying to pve I'd watch a video by ryan6days a week about avoiding enemies
Watch any streamer play to get a good idea of how the game goes, watch some videos on how to dodge enemy hits on maps you play, learn about stats and which stats you need for your class
I think, i'm mostly struggeling with the extraction idea and when which exist becomes viable. Obviously the pve kills you more when you only have like children's armor but i can't get the better one if i get killed constantly 😉 I made it out once now.. yay.
its better to have higher luck if ur farming spectral fabrics and no luck if ur farming pelts?
yes
ty
can we remove green from reward tokens
Hello guys
Brother do you have oceiana servers selected?
Jumping back at the game right now, with 2 new players and me. What are good classes rn? I used to play cleric at high level, other 2 are completely new and don't mind what they play.
keep finding people killing rednames, what a great system, pre death sentence
Ranger/fighter
Barbar And ranger they Are absolutly Broken barbar can do what he want with zero skill And ranger usually can easy kill evry papear And kite all slow just barbar with out brain and holding w key melt him xD
I cant recommend fighter OR ranger for new players, barb is the way to go
Need a PhD in kitting to make a workable fighter, hp nerf, gets kited
Ranger needs to hit shots or you're just a spear fighter with no ehp
fighter and barb are insanely easy to play with good results
Doesn't shielding make it way more difficult to kill someone with magic missile?
yeah shield can cancel the cast
give my hp back
Anyone that can help me beat spectral knight?
Try either the LFG channel of your region or the Knight Discord
any link to the knight discord?
Incidir/occruh is a dirty cheater. He knows when you queue, what gear you're wearing, has aimbot, esp, and the devs do absolutely nothing.
This game is so defunct they allow cheaters to track the games you're joining. So if you kill them, they just track you down and kill you repeatedly.
At what point are the devs going to realize this is happening? They're allowing players to be targeted by cheaters even before they enter a game.
How do we upgrade squire loot? Or ranger wants a spear
You unlock better/more squire loot as you complete merchant quests, the wiki has a list of who unlocks what
Does anyone have a link to the "traders guild" discord for dark and darker? I have heard about it but cant find a link
Until this Game gets its own Version of SPT im afraid there isnt gonna happen a whole lot
RANGERS ARE FUN AND BALANCED, I LOVE LOW TTK
Can someone confirm the current gear score brackets in Norms and HR please.
0-24, 25-124 for norms, and 125-224 For High Roller
anything above the highest numbers are not limited to gear score
Another day in bow and bower
is the game experencing graphics issues my scene just went werid
Honestly, how is the game in its current state? I haven't played since the torrent
made many improvements, made many more worse decisions
is the game down
Gear gives more ap now than treasure?
They should add 1v1s in this game like customs where u can 1v1 ur friends
@vapid arch I see, same habits
does someone know?
Try that approach to life also! It will keep you off of weed/drugs, get you to exercise, eat healthy, get good sleep, and not play video games!
how much does viola usually go for?
Nothing really, most bards don't buy instruments
is the item drop "token of honor" a quest item?
it crafts falchion of honor idk if its for a quest
"You do not have enough room in your inventory or stash to complete this transaction. Please make room and try again" but i have enough space im lost
i mean the rapier viola
how does one "interact with axe traps" for the quest anyone knows?
Trap disarming kit. It’s kinda annoying to use
Its probably the big axes that swing from the ceiling, use a disarm trap on it
aah makes sense, thanks!
what build you guys recommend for <125 gc barb?
this game's report system, moderation, and anticheat make me big sad. jfc IRONMACE get it together
trash game
true...
I don't think anyone reads reports sent via discord. There is zero feedback from reports sent, and I've reported the same user for the same infraction over several days and he's still at it. No wonder this game is notorious for having a toxic community
Do you think they have a customer service department with 50 people hunched over their computers eagerly awaiting your report?
Get real.
They at best have a couple people working reports.
Your job is to report the cheaters.
Also, your reports have nothing to do with toxic players.
The toxic players are to blame.
Thanks for agreeing with me that their reaction to player reports is insufficient
You're progressing.
You started at Zero, "I don't think anyone reads reports sent via discord. There is zero feedback from reports sent.."
Now you acknowledge they do read reports.
Sooner or later you will realize that you were wrong, and I was right. 🫡
lmao wut? 0/10 bait. get blocked nerd
does playing barbarian 1-hand sucks ? Whats the possibilities
horseman axe, that's about it
horseman is better than viking sword, you can use a lantern for more damage or you can use a shield
how does high roller split ap with duos or trios?
How to do the royal gems quest?
Go into gobby cave kill both bosses
If in a trio or duo lobby
Let them loot pile for you ask if they have a royal gem
They say no
Kill them because you don't trust them if no gem leave game repeat if yes leave with the gem
This quest is a good one
(So far gotten 3 put of the dead body stop lying to me.)
How do I actually get this done tho?
This is the best time efficient thing I've found
in trading post what does "sk" "gk"
skull and gold key
so they dont like using gold?
its a lot esier to hold a gold key rather than 10k gold
point taken ty
Add move speed light foot boots loose trousers riveted gloves bardiche lizard skin with some rings
does HR spectral knight have a higher chance of dropping the fabric?
game dead now yeah? just quicksold all my shit
10 games without a single person, no one has mics etc etc. dead
marketplace question, if I am selling a stack of 3 items, and I want it to be 100g per item, do I put 300g into the window or 100g?
300
300
fighter is dead i cant kill cleric (squire gear) with halberd 3 hit one headshot. warlocks + wizard destroy me + ranger. rogue is only one that skill matter. If ı am only gone fight agains fighters + barbs whats use of class just delete whatever dead game
Just killed a guy with 5 max health, 2% phys damage bonus, 4,9 debuff duration bonus Tanglethread Trousers. Not super experienced and nothing on the market for me to compare them to. How much are they worth?
Fighters run solos in geared lobbies… game sadly can’t be balanced around squire gear
it was under 125 ı think under 125 isnt geared?
only really specific builds want debuff duration, just compare hp and phys damage
if so ı hope they dont expect new players to play. Just think new player chosed fighter there is no way that player gone play or buy the game u know..... I am corious if they think even little bit about why game is dying lmlo
Ah, yeah maybe fighter doesn’t feel good there. Many people thing it’s one of the stronger classes in solos as well. Just different in every gear score lobbies. I only play 225+ unless started a fresh class then I have 1 run of squire gear normally unless I move gear to it
ı saw they gathered 225 gear score limit for hr ı didnt try but until that whenever ı go higroller with good gear always getting gear check so got tired of it. its not fun to die in 2 hits to crystal sword warlock
dark and darker fucking BORING now. bring back overpowered items, zone and random portals
redditors and bot players need to stop crying and coping about "muh gear gap" and get good
lets say you buyed bis gear for 4k(big money for me like min 3 hour grind). Then went to hr then die to 3rd party after that 4 hour grind.... not fun u know. Or you said you wanna grind hell bosses 30 munites to go down to hell to face warlock. Or u faced ghost king how many tries you need to learn..... its nearly impossible for new player to learn bosses too i dont think anyone will see but whatever ı hope you have fun bb
gear is fine as it was in patch 68, it was way too strong in previous iterations
says WHO? just run away if you feel outgeared and collect money until you can compete
game is forcing me to play warlock true 😄 if ı can kil inferno bosses there wont be problem u know. Whatever
There was nothing for that unfortunately
Does anyone else think that pvp arena sucks when there are two wizards spamming fireball?
I didn't ask but yes
says everyone, +all was unhealthy, getting any roll on any piece of gear was unhealthy, and caps for rolls being higher was unhealthy
you could get + 3 all + 3 true damage and up to 3 agi/str/whatever all in one piece of gear, it was obscene
you could even stack add phys/magic and true phys/magic
@arctic swan don't listen to king floppa he is a massive troll
bro why is it possible for rouges to run fucking 7 hand crossbows in sub 25 like its actually the most annoying kite ever
Iron mace said they are sorry and are planning on changing this/nerfing this soon
IM made a game where the best stuff drops 0.0004% of the time. Naturally it will attract unemployed, sweaty, and probably unhealthy people. In my opinion this "toxic" community is IM reaping what they sow, whether they realize it or not. The same thing happens in other games that demand hours like Rust.
Top this off by deleting peoples BIS midway through the wipe? Yes it's the toxic players fault for being toxic. But IM made this bed.
You wouldn't go to a casino and blame the addicts for pissing in the seats when the whole system is intentionally designed to trap the vulnerable and unhealthy people in the first place.
At least the casino owns it and has systems to clean up the mess unlike this game.
Ya just outrun the guy with 30 more ms than you xd
gear was indeed best in 68. I don't believe in gear squish when you can just make better gear more attainable.
can someone explain me the arena loot system ? what can i bring with me
If you have an item where at the bottoms it says “found by” and the name of your character you can bring it in, same if it says crafted by. However it’s character based not account based, so if you find something on let’s say your bard you can’t bring it in with your ranger
Does that make sense?
thanks a lot
Fs
where can i report player
that was certainly impulsive. Though I doubt the game is dead, 15k players are usually always on doing something
true but ive been queued for arena for 15 minutes i just cant seem to find a lobby
lobbies have been noticeably empty more often lately but it could be worse after patch 69 stuff
still the spike in empties is noticeable sadge
It’s also the fact that not a ton of people are playing arenas
dead game
Is the Harvest lobby and the halloween torch usable for the rest of the time?
What race do you guys use the most?
arian
there is no 125 gear score limit on arena?
im 124, and everyone else is like 200 etc
CAN WE PLEASE START ACTUALLY BANNING TEAMRS IN SOLO HR?!
can we ban teamers in general like for gods sake I'm constantly being spawn rushed and teamed on
honestly might just fully quit so sick of awful devs and terrible matchmaking
@alpine sail that was happening to a streamer i was watching, without fail like every game lol
when spectral knight jumps up... whats the best way to dodge.... i try to round toward his blast off location and thats like hit or miss...
hey yall does ray of darkness do more damage with magic power bonus?
thanks!
@low talon ray of darkness scales with magic damage, but it also is negatively affected by knowledge/casting speed at the moment
19k players in game.
Wait wdym by this
@past garnet casting speed reduces the total channel time of ray but doesnt increase the tick speed, like how it affects life drain. you get less overall damage.
I keep seeing ppl saying 224 gs lobbies is there a new bracket. I thought it went 0- 24 25- 124 then its uncapped from there?
@vocal ivy thats for high rollers
oh so they meant highroller then thanks. I was wildly confused.
They added 125-224 for highroller and norms
and norms?
anyonne down to carry me thru a ghost king kill? need for quest and dont want to solo
need to fix the kite meta its stupid as shit
A stash sorting feature is so badly needed
Why can't i buy red shards for legendary upgrade?
what are the HR rewards this season? i dont see them in game?
Hello, can anyone help me and send the user config file privately? It has to be someone who, if they have activated the dlss or the fsr in the configurations, is to be able to activate it. This file is located in windows+r appdata local- dungeoncrawler - saved-config- Windows please I need to be able to use those options
thats only HR im pretty sure??
nerf fighter ffs, its so broken
when spectral sya DIE and does the sword circle swing is it random whether he goes high then low or low then hi? like wtf
Pretty sure they added 125-224 for norms too, i never run into anyone in full purples in <225, just blues and like 1 or 2 purps
Stop balancing classes and move on to fix the light source problem. It's not great to have so much light in dungeons that you barely use the stuff which are supposed to give a light sorce, like torches, lanterns, campfires, ect. Why do we have so much light in the dungeons do people having problem seeing? I mean we already have ruins which is bright due to the moon i assume, but in dungeons it's so bright that it hurt my eyes.. This is not good for a dungeon crawler type of game, dungeons n caves need to be darker not filled up with lights in every room man!
What the hell is this
That’s a weird bait, areas of the dungeon are literally pitch black.
What area of dungeons are literally pitch black?! I would like to know!.. Oh none, right... Because every room in every dungeon is filled up with default light sorce which you can turn off... All ai (monsters, bats, skeletons) can see in the dark, so the only reason why we have default light torches in-game is for us the players and im just saying they should remove some of them. There is too much light in-game which make no sense because you have torches and lantern's for a reason! To use them. But you barely use them due to the reason that there is already so much light so you never have to!. Like wtf is this game? I thought it was a dungeon crawler game but it's clearly not!
so arena has no brackets now?
never did
o.O
Any dungeon crawler game have "darkness" in their caves and players has torches for a reason. But in dark and darker you have so much default light that you barely ever need to use a torch or a lantern! Like why can't you make a good dungeon crawler game like all other type of game like this? With a good athmosphere in game, secret rooms, more darkness and thus also a reason to play more safe than just rush something from the start of the game because u can see due to all the light sorce ect. Nothing is scary and u just skip ai and rooms to hunt players or rush a boss. BOOOORING! because all do this pretty much!
how often are wipes in this game?
every 3 months or so
Every 4-6 months
which of these is valid tho lol
also is anyone struggling like a mfer to connect to the game rn?
I just don't understand why Ironmace not slow down the phase and remove some of the default light so people need to use their brain more than just rush for pvp or a boss as soon as they spawn into a dungeon/cave!
Me when I buy ten torches per game
At least better that you have to use them or even buy 10 of them. Also u can pick them up or drop them when u need to fight something. But it would be better because now u need to use the light, which will slow down the game phase a bit. Because u can't fight ai in a totally dark room.
I run past the AI anyways? I can do that with a torch. I have routes memorized between spawns, I know exactly where I need to go and how many mobs to kill between you and me at any point.
Can someone help me with my quests please jm kinda new and i keep dying
Yeah you can but you run around in darkness at least and u use the light (torch) for this reason! You can also just run in the darkness and look on the map because im is stupid to give players a mini map so... Im just saying that it would be way better. Than having a default light sorce so you don't need something which are made into the game.
Bro I don’t need to look at the map I have the modules memorized lmao. Just turn your brightness to zero and play your fantasy out.
I don't want to play a fantasy out. This is a dungeon crawler game, and in a game, like this type of game, it make no sense that you have filled every room up with so much light, that you don't need to use a torch, lantern or whatever to move or see something.
anyone else dealing with insane rubber banding or is it my internet that is the problem?
Yeah no it makes it a playable game not torch simulator, corners are still dark, hallways are still dark, rooms can become pitch black, playing darkness gives you advantage in any scenarios. Dungeon crawling isn’t associated with pitch blacknesses either? You need to balance fun within your game design.
Your problem
I totally agree and thus is why i think they need to make rooms darker and remove some of the default light. Im not saying rooms should be totally dark. Im sayin removing some of the default light sorce in game so rooms will become darker and give a better vibe or feeling of a "player" is in a dungeon/cave. I don't get this feeling when every room i step into is filled up with light! I hope this make sense for you! I think this game design would make dark and darker more fun.
my thoughts on the HR 125-224, 225+ queue change (I am a ranger main with 1700 hours of play time): a great change IMO (I have a lot of fun) and here is why: a) it makes the HR game experience a bit more consistent in terms of gear gap. Before, queuing for HR was a dice roll if you are the most geared team/player in the lobby, so quite often, if your not mega geared, you get gear checked (skill issue, I know) . Now you have more agency by choosing to gear <225 or mega geared 225+. On top of that, juiced teams can still get their HR experience they know and love by queuing 225+ and sweaty (but not mega sweaty) teams can queue < 225 (a good change); b) if you can't afford a 10k+ kit every round, it's quite frustrating to queue HR when it was only 225+, since it feels like your throwing you quit away if your not mega geared. But now 125-224 makes HR more affordable to grind since the kits don't cost as much (increased accessibility, good); c) after a few games, I noticed the average player skill level is lower in 125-224 queues, making winning more frequent and winning is fun. I may represent the average player with this feeling, since I don't have 2 rich players to practice with everyday to grind HR trios all the time (IMO good, but its a skill issue on my part, so neutral), and now I can more frequently access affordable HR; d) more queues, so more dead lobbies (bad), but, it means fewer deaths given the infrequency of PVP (good, although in long term possibly bad, since I could see infrequent PVP getting boring).; and e) the excitement of winning a PVP encounter is way better than < 125 norms and a 125-224 queue gives moderately geared players a playground to queue up for. All in all, I am having a blast with this change. I get to fight HR mobs, the dungeon loot is better, I get to experience HR bossing, and I get some juicy gear from winning PVP without often getting 100% gear gapped by 150 HP mega geared wizard that's being pocketed by a cleric and bard
We're not discussing that. What I'm talking about is that there’s too much light in the game. When I enter a dungeon or cave, I don’t get that dark, claustrophobic feeling I expect. Instead, every room has so much default lighting that it completely ruins the atmosphere. It just doesn’t feel like I'm really in a dungeon
WOW game is so fun pve ruining all my fights and never having fair encounters and only fighting max ms worlock or pdr/fighter/barbs is so much fun
yeah it's pretty garbage.
It been like that for a long time guys. Because im only lisent to those for just want to pvp and play all day long doing pretty much nothingelse.
i have done every boss ran every named item been rich and poor. thanks to the amazing balence changes im quiting thanks alot r!t@rds at ironmace
Sadly...
barbarian can be manned by people with no frontal lobes and win fights, Bard is ridiculous. Warlock, ranger and rogue in a strong 3rd tie for people born with internal testicles
LFG im LONGSWORD FIGHTER
Wrong place to lf a g
instead of a dark corner or two, now there's half of a room that a rondel fighter/barbarian/rogue can ambush you
What u talk about, all classes can do this. You even has invisible pots you can use if u'd like
It’s not just about making the game darker because thematics though, you need to think about the actual playability of something pitch black, getting one shot out of the darkness, not being able to navigate if you run out of the 100 torches you had to bring in and throw.
@frosty island perhaps you play different game instead of complaining here
I appreciate you sharing this perspective. As a player who spends most their time in <125 normals, I want to eventually do hr. Seeing a roadmap from your experiences helps
making everything darker isnt a very enjoyable from a playability standpoint, what would be better is more difficult ai or reasons to not just rush boss or other players
Funny enough I thought 224 was a mistake splitting the community further, might be my favorite bracket to play now, I can play with my casual friends without worrying about losing an insane kit.
Again, im not saying that rooms should be pitch black, i am saying: When I enter a dungeon or cave, I don’t get that dark, claustrophobic feeling I expect. Instead, every room has so much default lighting that it completely ruins the atmosphere. It just doesn’t feel like I'm really in a dungeon. You keep talking about something i can already do. I can turn off all the lights in rooms. But i also need to clear them out to do this. Before i even turned off a whole room and cleared it i can maybe do that to another room. Then i need to leave because time about to end and i need to go into a new dungeon.
FIX THAT FKING GOBLIC CAVE SPAWN NORTHEAST
Turning off let's say every third or second default light would give a better and more scary and realistic feeling rather than what we have currently. And this is also good for players! So not sure what u are yapping about!
@glad thunder FIX THAT FKING GOBLIC CAVE SPAWN NORTHEAST
i have not been following the game for a while planning on going back is a new reset coming soon ? or is it worth to do quest and all that at all for now ?
No fix the light so people have a reason to use a latern or torch!
It's not a complain it's a dicussion thread for the game and i suggest they turn off some of the default light so players can get a more realistic feeling and vibe of being in a dungeon or cave system-.-
If you don't like this then maybe you should move on instead.
Why not but we need to be careful with that and don't go to far into something that'll force people to use lantern or bring 6 stack of torch. I'm not against skill/spell/new type of throwable that do light tho if they do increase the amount of dark spot
I totally agree. It needs more balance.
Lowering lighting to match thematics makes the game play different than it already does and doesn’t need to happen.
Don't speak to that guys he's just a troll, block him for your own good
Except if they don't overdo it and add new way to have light
I disagree. It would be good for the game that the gameplay or meta would switft a bit. Atm there is too much light that any barely use latern and u keep disagree and thats fine. But then we just not on the same page yet..
Doesn’t really shift meta at all besides waiting in darkness and throwing 10x torches, seems annoying and un necessary.
Like imagine a ranger perk that make his arrow glow where they land or allow him to light up torch on the wall by shooting them
the large majority of people would disagree with you on that and after memorizing the dungeon layout lights off are more of a nuisance than ambience
Well you told me u was so good that u know the game when u have eyes closed so i don't see the problem for you. Since darkness not matter for you! Why u so much against that they turn of some of the light. It's unrealistic right now that we have so much light.
A spell for Warlock that glow up the torch of the room with a red light
Fighter with brighter torch, there's lots of thing possible
I think DodgeThisFish are just trolling too so no need to argue with him that they should turn off some of the light. He keeps yapping about that i want all rooms to be totally dark when i clearly stated it's not what i suggest.
Realism versus gameplay is a huge issue, you push a ton of your playerbase away by making the game annoying to navigate.
No because i don't want the lights off totally i just want the rooms to be a bit darker and give a better feeling of the players are in a dungeon. I think the light is currently overdued.
I work in game dev, I can assure you that changing the lighting in any significant way will cause huge issues.
I disagree.
He didn't say that he want the dungeon completely dark, just to increase a bit the number of torch that are turned off and add new light item/spell/skill
100% But yeah i want some of the torched that are turned on to be turned off. Because i think the light atm is overtuned and it's just too much.
Maybe we could have belts where we could put our laterns on
Some race like dwarf could have night vision, rogue or bard could have a perk that allow their eyes to adapt in the dakr and allow them to see a bit better in the dark
They've talked several time about adding quiver, backpack and stuff like that to the game. I think that could be cool
True i totally agree. Could be kinda crazy and i think also fun for many of the players in the game.
Heck yeah it would and i hope they will do this soon. Because if they just keep balancing classes. Then i am sure players slowly leaves over time. I mean it's already what is happening so...
the other problem with darkness is that its difficult to balance around. Nothing stops players from turning up their saturation on their monitors. You then would have a good chunk of players making their game look like crap just to have an advantage.
can you still jump wyvern tailwhip
If I go in arena with a unique crossbow found by me, do I lose it if I lose?
I hope the recent complaints are truly an eye opener for iron mace to stop listening to this community. Rush out patches? Community pissed. Delay a patch? Community Pissed.
Remove warlock from the game
You cannot equip unique's at arena
anyone else keep getting sent back to lobby instead of getting put into game
100% CPU usage is normal with a 12400f and rx 6800? 1440p
No thanks, this isn't some spelunking game or Zork.
We've moved on.
We want to see what we are doing, where we are going, and place that axe in the correct skull.
No, it's never normal.
Drop down to 1080p or something, you are going to fry your computer.
Like a spike when the game start or random spike mid game or full time 100%?
So, if all three layers of Forgotten castle were stitched into one map organically without loading zones, y'all think it could actually be optimized or would we be getting hit with a metric ton of transversal stutter?
I'd been thinking about this recently. The section below Bath House seems like it could link perfectly into Sewers, for example, without the need for a red staircase. And im sure there are other creative entrances that could be made.
like 80% constant to 100 spikes
Yeah that's don't sound very good. Several thing you can try @dusky trout or #discord-help. Before that you can look if you have the minimum config requirement, reduce your game graphic setting, update your driver, try to start the game with the -dx11 and/or -USEALLAVAILABLECORES starting option on Steam or the Blacksmith launcher (don't know how it work for Epic), maybe try to change the processus priority to high in your task manager
Day 39-40 Asking Ironmace to add a playable Gorgone/Medusa race skin.
things should deal 0 dmg past 7.5m
No?
Yes
dark and darker ??? nooo range and figth
does boss hp reset when you leave the arena?
Oh I agree with that but removing ranged damage at all is just not the solution. But I agree that range it too omnipresent, they should probably remove some ranged option to some class. Like Figther and Bard should have only hand crossbow without a perk (maybe they could give bard a perk that allow him to use surv bow). Same for Rogue no hand crossbow without a perk
Yes
they could easily achieve what both parties want, make static light sources that cant be put out, and areas that dont have lights and lights that can be put out, it would make areas predictable for hiding spots, you could toss a torch or spell in the area to check etc... but I just find this as more annoying shit in this game, just my opinion.
your all caps is offensive. you sound loud to my eyes.
have they mentioned anything about updates?
Unfortunately no 😐
damn man
Yo is there a specific chat for finding a team?
Yep look for the LFG channel of you region id:browse
wait so why are we playing this game again if we arent playing barb can someone remind me
there won’t be a patch because of what happened last patch
im talkin about the next one
yeah there won’t be one
Longbow
What do you mean by that ? Who said that?
me
Ok so you don't have any idea of why they didn't patch this week. Thx
yeah i do
Where does one find the cyclops?
Add a low rise fog and ambient lighting. Natural lighting that comes from cracks in the ceiling that rain down and light the place, dripping water from the ceiling or down the walls from the moisture in the dungeon.
looking for people to play with im a ranger lvl 27 or a warlock lvl 40
What is the actual fucking point of gatekeeping Sterling weapons behind a POOR only quality item? I should be able to use a common quality source weapon to craft a Sterling weapon, especially since the only poor quality Rondel on the marketplace is 2500 gold. All 8 toons, no Rondel on the vendor. Feelsbadman
it’s not common grade gear used to craft it? i thot it was
Go into a match with a squire rondel dagger and live, boom free rondel for sterling
Hello, I had some questions I couldn't find a lot of answers to when searching through sources. I'd love to discuss these with some people if possible.
- On a F2P account, do I have to keep on deleting my characters in order to try different classes? Is there any downsides to doing so as well?
- Been mainly focused on trying to learn mechanics, but seem to struggle the most at chasing enemies. Is it a problem with my builds?
- I like fast and strong characters, mainly melees. Are my class choices right? (Barbarian, Rogue, Warlock is what I like to play, reached level 40 Barbarian, level 24 Rogue and level 8 Warlock)
- Why do people prefer books over staves?
- How do I efficiently navigate to extracts in goblin caves?
Never used free but I guess the downside be time investment loss?
Eh this is subjective but it may be your ms or what you trying to chase, players tend to run some movement speed so if you playing as like a barbarian its not a bad ideal run some ms
Idk that one
Books are just faster as far as I know
Press M to pull the map up
- yes you have you can only have one character per F2P acc
Dang that sucks.
If you complete all of the quests for weaponmaster like I have you start with a Common (white) dagger by default. lol
I'm currently on my level 40 Barbarian and I really want to switch classes after learning a bit of enemy AI to be fully capable of doing them damageless. Am I doing wrong?
My first class that I tried was Rogue but deleted it because I thought it was really bad, but that was because I sucked at the game and understood nothing. Now looking back I see how strong it can be, even without sitting in a corner.
Oof, take off the corpse of someone?
i just died to cyclops outside of the boss room.... first time seeing that. is it supposed to?
It’s on goblin caves, look up an interactive map online to see exactly where
Anyone know what the going rate for a dryads wrath is right now?
when does the Halloween event end?
Do you feel that starting last month there is much more ESP cheaters? Or that is just my luck?
On HR
So whats the deal, have we heard any news from IM about what theyre up to next?
can you block lich ball with longsword shield or bardich and dont take dmg ?
hi
You can yeah
WHY DOES DRUIDS BEAR OVERHEAD ATTACK HAVE A HITBOX THAT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO HIT WHEN ITS ATTACKING?? you can be KISSING the dude and you still cant hit him unless you have a spear or something long
They are really good
Why are ladders in the game if they are so shit to use I climb up it and get my weapon out at the top and I’m swinging my fists with a rapier in my hand it’s so bull shit
ironmace needs to nerf ladder
does gobling bring stuff back when i die to time running out in the match
Yes brotherrr
does switching weapons when using a invis pot make noise ?
yeah as long as no one takes it
Yes brotherrrr
what merchant crafts golden armour
well i died to the zone time out- we couldn't extract in time, and we died to the void? idk what that is considered as
yeah u will still get it back
okay great ty
might take a lil bit of time tho
yeah they went lower so prob will be awhile
got it back, thanks
yo how do you get into the class discussion text channels? i forgot its been a while
Can you craft me some golden armor
looking for people to play with im a ranger lvl 27 or a warlock lvl 40
does my buff duration affect the duration of the buffs i put on other people
i dont think so. Buff duration of the person getting the buff applied to them. This is strictly different for SOME bard songs that scale with reso
yo anyone else notice that the GBMM for HR is not working? Went in at 199 and instantly faught someone with 589.
Proximity chat should not attenuate party chat. Such a pain in the ass to switch between voip options
@glacial python if they were picking up items throughout the HR run it will increase their gear score
@nova mauve yeah that wasnt the case
iunno besides that
how do you find a demon bat in the ruins of the forgotten castle?
you find them in inferno, gotta take red stairs twice. One map has them in the top left, another has them in the room right of middle
yea but its just confusing to me that the quest says ruins of the forgotten castle.
bardiche needs to be removed
There are plenty of better weapons
yea it's the only one im getting one tapped by ppl with no skill
If you are getting one tapped, I don't know your class, a full perk/skill Barb will one tap anyone not wearing plate.
The real solution is not the weapons, it's their speed. Both Barb and Fighter can use the largest dps weapons on the game - and they have speed buffs.
That should not be.
Remove speed buffs from both classes, and it would be more acceptable.
They should be slow as $#@%.
rogue, i have been one tapped by warlock w/o BoC and barb
Rogue gets one tapped by a strong gust of wind
not a longsword or anything except bardiche
and str stacking bear form
They need to jncrease everyone's HP again
Rogue triple stabs most classes dead with good gear - but they can't take a hit.
Dodgin and weavin.
Rogues deserve it tho
doctrpepper, you will be missed my man. 🫡
got it thanks
is there gear brackets in dark and darker
ya homie check the announcements tab there was just the most recent announcement regarding this
You got 1-24
or 25-124
or 125+
and in high roller you have 125-224
and 225+ HR
anybody know how to fix rubber band issue in game? keep lagging/stuttering just with dark and darker no other game does this
how do i show my item in the chat?
Shift + Left Click
Were there any free cosmetics for the halloween event? or was it all paid cosmetics?
How far can enemies be to be able to curse them as a Warlock?
w@zinc sparrow But what cool things can we expect? When can we expect them?
7.5 meters, iirc
How far would that be you say? Aggro distance?
Its half a meter shorter than Wizard's spell distance, if that helps at all
I got 10 hours on the game. 😭
lmao
I think its shorter than aggro distance though. Bolt of Darkness has more range
Ah, I see, thank you.
Anyone wanna do spectral knight for me? Will pay 3k coins for your help :D
HR gear score is 125- ?
We don't want to see your item unless it is 12 inches
Any way I can gift the game to a friend?
buy steam credit and send it to them
alright thanks
125 to 224 and 225 and beyond
these servers are terrible
do any of the game settings affect render distance
Thank you
Why does playing a specific class give you free AP. Find this really weird to be in a ranked mode that a class gets free points from chest when others have to risk 100's of gold to achieve the same every single game.
If I fall out of a certain HR rank will I lose that season reward or as long as I hit it im good?
you will lose it
Has anyone else noticed that Bard's flute sometimes won't complete it's song even if played fully? I believe it happens on all instruments but I notice it with flute the most.
Is the effect of luck on items correct in the wiki? I have a feeling it isn't but maybe someone knows?
so do you get three times the rewardsss when you get highroller ranks on all modes on one character?
are the servers getting ddos'd or something? my game is bugging the hell out after there was an emergency temporary pause
oh it's a hacker in game problem
No, only one set of rewards for each character
I'd advise getting to the green rank on all characters so you get 10 bags which is a lot of gold value
thanks, so if i started playing solo i should stick to it
guys, is there still 25-124 matchmaking pool in normal games?
ddnt they remove it few patches ago?
added it back with the revert
thank you
why does everyone say that battle axe isnt good
so what should i fill my inventory with when ap farming? gold coins? collector sellables? blue equipment? mob drops?
if you have 5 stacks of poisoned weapon, does it take 20 seconds to go to 0 stacks or 4 seconds?
4 seconds
What do I do about spectral's jump direction change?
Im quite consistent with everything except the jump because he just does 180 degree spin midair and I get one shot 💀
can class stacking be removed please
how exaclty does the ingame chat work, how do i message someone thats not on my team?
you just dodge it
yep, same problem right now. New "feature" or "bug"
Is it worth coming back? Last time i played is first day of barbarian 69 patch.
Turn off underwater torches (lmao), take off your pots, perfect hiding spot to heal/wait out the danger (CS fighter/rondel maniac)
Ah darn it, I didn't think of that till now ty!
idk how to dodge it cause i get all my loot from killing people but i do know its dodgeable
You were trying to be serious with that answer? 💀
I do expect it to be dodgable somehow, and that's why im asking
@austere geyser Yeah it think so too as few weeks back when I last played he just consistently went in one direction for me. Thought I would guess its a feature rather then bug*
Yep @maiden forum !!!
yeah you dodge the dodgeable attack. works well
you can not kill spec knight and I'd bet a gold bag on it
oh ive killed it before. i just dont normally boss. not the fun part of the game for me
no you haven't or you wouldn't be giving bad advice
i dont think ive ever given good advice in anything thats not a dm
Why are you here then? We don't need that shit, the man asked a legit question and you're here gas lighting
cause im bored and wanna forget the fact that i lost like half a week of work yesterdya
blocked
how tf did I manage to spark up drama without even being part of it nor having any role in it 😭
aww thanks :) @maiden forum cause yes
not your fault, some people talk even though they have nothing to contribute.
#game-discussion message @fervent anvil yeah its opposite for me tbh, pvp feels very boring recently so I started learning all the bosses few weeks back 😄
#game-discussion message @austere geyser I can't bealieve you survived in this discord till not if you get mad over trolls lol
learnt most of the bosses thinking it would be fun. but the high end pvp is just better for me
I don't look at this place, it's actually not useful and ruins your outlook on the game, just like reddit. I came to talk about spec knight drop and here you were.
no clue how high end pvp could be fun for ya, its really just:
- get first hit -> try to finish it before other side resets
- get hit first -> kite to reset
i like the longer fights. tho i sometimes hit sub 124 and 25 to get some faster fights in
but gl with learning all the bosses. if you wanna watch a vid on it look up ryan6daysaweek. thats the channel i watched to learn the bosses
Oh, Im not exactly againt's shorter/longer fights, rather it feels like the fights are way too one directional right now. As long as you bunny hop, its way too easy to reset with any throwable or bow
i mean im a wizard player that runs with crossbow and the knives so i abuse the fuck out of bhopping
why use knives on a wizard?
cause long range stab. also i do 5 spell bonk. so i dont have much ranged spell
only if ignite procced on knives...
i only use em if both the bonk and the crossbow shot dont kill
plz fix ranger it's the most annoying class to fight i don't lose to anyone else
What happened
noooo it should stay
let us bunnyhop like in the good old days in cs!
I really really want them to fix that stupid bug with Spectral Knight where you get hit when crouch ducking
just double jump
bunnyhopping gets removed from every game for a reason
Okay but like... Does double jump actually work to avoid the high attack?
idk try it
Where’s the update at? Can we get some communication as to what the game is going to be moving forward?
no
Nah just normal character. It's been an issue since launch it seems. It's his high horizontal attack, if you crouch it there's just a chance it bugs out and you get hit. It could be because some of the ground is like an inch higher in certain places, but sometimes it will hit me even when I'm on the flat region.
Pretty sure the game is dying
What are you laughing at? The game is dying and you're laughing? You're laughing?!?!?!?!?
when putting back crypts 😡 😡
crypts is in the game, you just need to take a red portal in ruins
I enjoy ice just gotta get better at it
what servers are most populated
when is the wipe coming?
hello, is it worth and possible to download some test server to practice bosses?
i know there are test servers, now how to acess idk, probabily with the ironmace launcher thingy
need to see on up when he in air and change direction first when he start jump and second when him stopped in air.
yeap, stupid mechanic. 6 deaths on release season
Wdym its been in minecraft since forever
They should put in a juice dispenser in the gathering hall.
hey whats the best pve class for duo? i would like to be able to solo every mobs in the game without taking too much risks
Im fighter 36 but im taking too much dmg from mobs and im useless in pvp
try torture mastery warlock, its squishy but got plenty of survivability with curses for heal and phantomize to get away
whats torture mastery?
a passive for the warlock giving him health back for each enemy affected by his curse of pain / power of sacrifice
Easiest pve clear is barbarian
its bc its my first account and i have the free version but i'll try warlock thx
warlock was my first class too, great to pick up the game with because you get a bit more margin of error than other classes - pvp also very capable
pvp with fighter is hard because other players have good builds and i get bullied by range classes
ye right now is ranged meta, hard to get into pvp for the first time as melee - warlock/archer probably better to get into
ok thx for your help 😄
Hey, I'm a beginner player and i'm stuggling to find a few rooms on the forgotten ruins map.
To be exact I'd like to know where those rooms are:
- Dark Magic Libary
- Barracks
- 4 Rooms
- Pyramid
Is there perhaps a map with the room names?
Look up dark and darker interactive map. Those rooms are on Crypts (second layer of ruins)
My favorite out the bunch cause I like the ice theme and color theme going on
I didn't even know forgotten ruins had a second layer
Thanks for the info
You can take the red stairs extract after 2:06 left on the match timer : )
Someone know how i can kick a guys from my vocal (im in trio)
Wait till you find out there’s a 3rd layer!
just have to make a new one
Is there a quest skin besides the felinid?
I'm of the opinion that if you at any point become the final player/group in the dungeon an auditory bell or some other blatantly notifying thing should occur across the dungeon. There's no point in having to look over your shoulder if there's noone left anyways, we should be able to make the most out of our time remaining
Bard and cleric
Bruh what ain’t no way you’re serious
Yeah, look up the DaD map online, it's a massive help
if u don't know bro didn't answer me its ok dude. I need the comand for kick a guys toxic. np i found it btw ty
Yeah, the map is a big help. Thanks everyone!
Best class for solos rn
bard warlock rogue
224's have a clear teaming problem, multiple games with teamers in hr.
annoying af buildning kits so that a few unskilled players can team up against you because they want to be friendly, they probably cry about gear gap.
then report them ...
yeah well i have i reported.i reported someone on the top 10 for solos and never got a ban notice. very blatant as well. you say it as if thats actually stopping the problem of going 3 games in a row and running into people teaming in hr.
did you try reporting them harder?
lol clearly you support this behavior from your response its okay. some people actually want to use skill to win fights, and play a pvp game.
i dont support teaming? i bonk all teamers i find
teaming is actually hard to know. like if 3 people run into each other its very possible 2 will go after one. and theyre not even trying to team
its actually not when you clip them lootng your body together and both attack you
Devs went into a good direction with the hp pool nerf
they voip in game cut him off, and good job. or get out of here and loot your body. every instance of teaming has been this. my experience atleast.
The rules stat that there will be no 'nice guy' play in HR. So, if three people converge in one area, they are gonna fight and sure it'll look like teaming because...odd numbers. Doesn't mean they are actually 'teaming' up though.
not sure if you understand the word blatant.
Be sure, I understand. Now that that is out of the way, it doesn't change what I said.
So is this game dead?
No, game is in it's infancy. The company is small and slow on the updates and such. And there might be a language barrier that slows things down as well, but dead? I don't believe so.
you only sound as if you are tryng to defend the fact that it happens with vague instances of third partys and such, however I said it was blatant. i think everyone who actually competes in hr knows what a third party or a fight with multiple partys involve. you also can spectate them after you die whitch usually shows how blatant it was if they werent already voiping.
how to deal with people that rush spawns you ?
kill them
spawn rush other people so you don't get spawn rushed
set some sort of trap or bait in a dark corner
Step 1: Listen for when they come.
Step 2: Drink invisibility potion.
Step 3: ?
Step 4: Profit.
step 1. hear someone drink potion
step 2. wait
step 3. ?
step 4. profit
we did it allready but
they had wh we got fireball in the face
LFG or clan that plays casually but still plays seriously im a fighter that usually runs long sword
Has there been any hints about next wipe dates?
wait the goblin merchant quest give the female cat not the man cat? u already have the skin from twitch but in wiki it say man and when i achieve that it the female one
nah it should be the man cat, i got my man cat skin from the gob merch quest
december
Ranger is broke. plz fix i only die to one class 1400 hours.
If I have a weapon that does magic weapon damage, and normal weapon damage, would +6 true phys be the exact same as +6 true mag?
Technically no because I'm pretty sure phys power and mag power scale your additional/true damage as well, but functionally pretty much
true damage ignores every part of the damage calculation, that's why its true damage
should I sell all of my blue pots just asking
i feel like a good addition to the game could be for the merchant purchase items to be addable to the squire gear, you get to choose if you want the stuff to be autopurchased with the squire gear, so that lets say extra arrows, campfires, pickaxe and so on could be added to the kit so that you dont have to go into each merchant on death to re buy it
use them
I don't really use em at all eva
start using them, 20-30 hp shield makes a difference
So realistically it’s the exact same thing just +6 damage
yeah, but if you're planning to do any other form of physical damage then true phys is going to be better than true magic
is multishot intended to one shot?
If you hit all the arrows at point blank range.
anybody know what the last alchemist quest unlocks? 🤔
It does give affinity so im assuming its something?
will there be more quests released?
No the last row of quest is out
I guess I can sell all the valuables I picked up just in case then
whats a good duo comp rn
soooo when’s the new anything
alt and f4
Do you guys have a different sound for when you headshot somebody?
HAHAAHHAHAAHHAAHAH SO FUNNY 
there isnt sadly
Why do I see ppl with different soudns like on videos when they hewadshot its a different sound. Do they just add that in?
mid december is wipe so
thank you thank you im here all week
nah it’s going to be at LEAST January. They haven’t released season rewards or started the timer which always comes at least a month prior
really? idk i never heard it but maybe there a grunt or smt personally idk dont see difference between body of headshit so
ryan is alrwady leaking mobs from the water map and alot of ppl like onepeg is saying mid december
Fighter ranger is solid
figuered its two good class lmao
Nah, Ice map mobs got leaked like 2 months before and onepeg has a tendency to be wrong. I expect some wizard nerfs and barb buffs in December, that’s all
we could then say end of december maybe start january would be wipe then, and even dont forget they are also working on sorcerer so
barb buffs??????
LOL I’ll believe it when I see it. Druid was supposed to come out last November, and even then it was on test servers for over a month prior to release in June. No word, pictures, or leaks even remotely related to sorc. SDF said he can bang it out in 24 hours but bro hasn’t even wanted to start
if they are making a sorcerer what would make it different? why can't they just add new kinds of spells to wizard so that perks like arcade feedback actually has a purpose
touché on this one although they didnt even TOUCHED the game if it isnt changes and balances, so personally i think they are doing something big for next wipe but yesh idk.
sorcerer would be alot more damage based while wizard more support based with spells like haste and invis, althought i expect them to release new « support » spell for wizard wince its gonna be more supportish based
sorcerer would also be able to mix spells like fire and ice and yk
whats actual bis for a bard? i run move speed and get one shot by every class hmm
Return to patch 69.1, the devs were cooking and attempting to make it the best balance there could be. Flatter stats means easier to balance
grand brigandine and MAYBE heavy trouser, stack some pdr and fuck ms js get some on boots that it hp stack up got ur buff for ms
especially accelerando so ms on bard is the least of concern (also u can play the other torso that give agi and dex i forgot its name but u can figuere it out okcur own haha)
I need some help right now I've been trying to get back into the game as I first quit when they nerfed the hell out of warlock frontline. I've been trying various classes with loads of different builds from guides and it just doesn't work I'm staying in low gear score and I'm constantly being spawn rushed and longbowed from across the map. the only success at all was from a weird pavise shield bash build. how am I supposed to try and regain old experiance if I can barely leave the module without being one shot.
is the game dying this badly that there are only people who just play this game and that's it?
sounds like a skill-issue more than a build issue if you get spawnrushed even in low gear lobbies.
There are players who've memorized the maps and know their routes.
If you are getting spawn rushed, might have to try clearing faster and moving modules before they get you, or going on the offensive when you hear them fighting other mobs
trolls blood is actually troll piss and it gets goblins pregnant
are there some classes that are just hard locked from breaking the ice blocks in the ice caverns?
I know these can break:
Barbarian - Crush
Druid - Bear Form
Warlock - Hellfire
Wizard - Fireball
@glad thunder Please rollback to something similar to patch 69. its the ONLY way to get rid of those GEARSCORE MM lobbies. Please do something like White/Green +4 Blue/Purple/orange +5 and legendary/Artifacts +6 (give really cool affixes for Artifacts). Make all weapons damage from white to artifact pretty much the same. DONT REDUCE HEALTH POOL. Reduce ranged weapons damage a bit and we are good!
any weapon with 5+ impact power, fireball/exposion, hellfire, bear right click can break ice. rangers, bards and rogues have no options
projectile damage reduction on armor needs to be increased.
Imo i would start there
Thank you! Was missing the impact power aspect of it. Appreciate it 🙂
Ranger can use the Windlass, not much but there is a way
rogues use pickaxe
Can anyone help me kill warlord please?
Are you sure about that? I'm almost certain that pickaxe don't break ice block
Try to ask in the LFG channel of your region or in the Kinght discord id:browse
we have to confirm. im not sure but i might have seen that on a stream once
thanks
Why
the LFG channel is the new gathering hall.
@sdf Please rollback to something similar to patch 69. its the ONLY way to get rid of those GEARSCORE MM lobbies. Please do something like White/Green +4 Blue/Purple/orange +5 and legendary/Artifacts +6 (give really cool affixes for Artifacts). Make all weapons damage from white to artifact pretty much the same. DONT REDUCE HEALTH POOL. Reduce ranged weapons damage a bit. Remove all GSMM lobbies even 0-25 and we are good!
Watchu know about rollin' down in the Dark
When your brain goes numb call that Wyvern freeze
When these clerics buff too much, put that shit in slow motion, yeah
I feel like a barb in a fighter meta (ayy)
We should have way more unique items that have effects such as hazeblade and thorn shield. Those add way more value to the game than +1 poopie +2 peepee
yeah lets remove the concept of gear in a game based around gear
y'know i don't really like chess being a game based around planning and strategy, they should make it an fps because i don't like how it is currently
arena should be permanent fr fr
arean should be permanent only if you have deathbloom active and brockton's plight in your hotbar tbh. no goblin cave is gonna survive if it's permanent without that bro lets be so real the liches and skeletons + warlords combo is too devious for even my lvl 909 barbarian bro it's too much
what is bro yapping about
Watchu know about rollin' down in the Dark
When your brain goes numb call that Wyvern freeze
When these clerics buff too much, put that shit in slow motion, yeah
I feel like a barb in a fighter meta (ayy)
🤓 👆
goofy
Is match making broken? If i go in with base gear why do i see teams with blue and purple kits on?
if i had to guess you had colored pots or something random like that and didnt notice
When do we see the seasonal rewards?
probably after 10 more patches, with the huge back and forth about patch 69 we typically would know by now and have a season count down but its just not here yet and i can only assume thats why. I dont think ironmace knows what they wanna do now because none of us really gave them a chance and as a result were in dark and darker limbo (which i was one of those people complaining ab the gear shift originally but im starting to think we may have bitten off our own hand with that revert as now it seems like development is stalling)
edit: all just my opinon based on observation i dont actually know anything
I guarantee that I was not, just died and immedatly queued up
They didn’t announce season rewards until like 2 weeks before wipe last season either.
DEVS BRING BACK THE STORM HOLY THESE GAMES ARE SO BORING. AT LEAST BRING IT BACK ON RUINS
which boss is harder to learn cave troll or spectral knight?
spec cave troll is actually very manageable
@alpine sail sorceror from what I heard it is casting from its hands and wont have spell charges like wizard or some shit
@stone kernel if the feedback wasnt 99% bitching and was actual feedback, like maybe just moving the squish down to Rares and leaving purple and oranges as the best gear, and then letting them develop from there, probably would have seen a better turnout.
Hey how do I get class roles in the server, trying to ask Clerics which perks I should swap for Requiem
Channels and roles at the top
i agree and i was part of the problem during that i regret to say
bro i dont mean to be that guy but ive never seen or heard of that happening without it being the persons own error. you must be smoking that good shit bc if you died and re q its all below 25. are these purples and blues you see people wearing found in raid and maybe youre just not looting well enough? outside of these two scenarios idk what else to tell you
nah MM is just broke
no offense i think you might need an iq test
its prob mid 50s
seems right ill take your word for it
@stone kernel I get being upset about the patch because it did indeed mess up a lot of gear for people, and the game experience they fell in love with all this time. The game definitely needs to start moving on to more development and new updates.
Feel like the issue is, they think they can do these huge ass blanket changes and these sweeping updates, drop them and just expect it to work out for all the players. This is why the testing server needs to be used, and feedback needs to be accounted for to a degree.
When the game is in early access and people complain when change happens 
there is more to it than that
pls remove the ranger from the game or remove that double jump, its cancer on bread
🇷 🇪 🇹 🇺 🇷 🇳 🇹 🇴 🇵 🇦 🇹 🇨 🇭 6️⃣ 9️⃣ ⏺️ 1️⃣
🇹 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🇮 🇸 🅰️ 🇬 🇪 🅰️ 🇷 🇩 🇮 🇫 🇫
IT'S JUST NO LIFE SWEATS WHO DEPEND ON GEAR TO STOMP LOBBIES IN A 8️⃣ 🇰 🇬 🇪 🅰️ 🇷 🇸 🇪 🇹
EVERY UNDER-GEARED PLAYER IS NOW JUST 1 OR 2 SHOT BY ANY SWEAT IN THEIR BIS 🇬 🇪 🅰️ 🇷
THE BEST KITS ARE ATTAINABLE WHEN YOU HAVE NO LIFE AT ALL.
IT TAKES LESS THAN 4 MINS TO KILL SPECTRAL IF YOU SPEND ALL YOUR TIME PRACTICING IT AND MASTERED IT ALREADY.
New players don't have time to learn how to kill spectral knight in 4 mins.
New players don't have the same ability to put together a "usable" BIS kit.
They get access to a market function that sells their items at a small fee, which new players probably don't care much about.
They get access to a market function that allows you to buy listed items, that they probably don't have the time to farm anyways.
They get access to 3 first floor bosses (Sorry cyclops, ur worth rags) that can drop thousands at a time for just 4 minutes of fighting them, but they'll probably get killed mid boss fight by a sweat farming the >25 lobby bosses.
They're able to play <25 gs (easy) lobbies to fight mentioned bosses, assuming they can even make it to inferno.
Historically the most boosted item drop rates in the dark and darker times, which is great for those with tons of time to play and can filter through all the gear that has bad secondary stat rolls on it now.
How are you still content with your weak mental state that depends on "gear-diff"ing other players? There are countless thousand+ hour players still getting mopped by people who chose to play all day to farm the best gear, and then 1 or 2 tap them in combat.
WE'VE COME SO FAR FROM THE PLAYTEST ERA, YET WE'RE STUCK IN THIS DUMB MINDSET
Noooo why do such heresy? make squire gear give 5 stats and legendary gear 50 stats
this will be a small increase and make finding gear much more interesting
ohh and bring back the barbarian buffs +10, theres a change he wont oneshot me with 160 hp
@coral gyro I find that a lot of people are okay with the stat squish going up to blues, it offers enough stats to have build diversity in grey/whites, but keeps purples and oranges/uniques the best in the game. Also if players want to min max in green/blues they can just keep an eye out for the random rolls they want.
clearly you didnt detect the sarcasm, i am ok with the stat squish also,
I did I am just talking about the topic
whats the strongest class rn
whats the point of playing anything but druid atm ?
wizard
i just hit atleast 3k to a druid he kept running healing running healing going up places that i cant since i dont have triple jump like druid does and campfired there while i tried to reach and reset the whole fight for 8 mintues 6 times
i hit him in the head with a legendary bardiche for over 30 times to the SAME FUCKING PERSON
are the devs licking mold of a wall what the fuck is this class design why can he do literally everything ?
if you think you have to no life to get an 8k set you're objectively bad at the game and no one should listen to you
Me STRONG player. Me rat normals. Trade go. Me get lobster gear. Me full PDR fighter. Me go to normal. Me hold W and left mouse. Me see Timmy TAKE small chest???. Small chest is belong to ME. Me HATE the Timmy. Me smash the Timmy. But then. All of sudden. now Timmy on EQUAL par?? Timmy smash ME??? Me angry. Me go to discord. Me complain. Me HATE new update. Me not able to W roll through normal lobbies. Now game BAD. But maybe game not bad. Never HR before. HR go. Me get rolled. Rogue call me noob trash. Me confused. Me high skill???. Me HATE game now. ME go discord again. Game dead!. Ironcase KILL game???. Discord tell me skill issue. Me thought me STRONG player. But now Maybe No. Or Maybe. it MUST be SERVER. Me HATE game. Me never introspect. Me BIG poppyhead. Me Suck at game. ME HATE change. ME no skill. Me No ADAPT.
pdr w fighters go riposte, thats a right click
barbarian chasing me a rogue and killing me because he runs faster with chest armor and boots with 4 movement speed when i had 12 on mine gg!
i dont know why they even bother? just make barbs and druids kill everything on the map and the start of the game
multiple no life chads told me that rougues arn't meant to kill people.
they arent meant for running also apparently, they are just living wards i guess
just backpacks and picklocks for the team
cool
but ya know bards have the AOE chest open song plus other buffs
druid is mid you ape
when is next wipe
yea man totally drown on your delusions
yall think barbs have too mutch ms
druid ape form?? 😮
does dark enhancment effect boc ?
yaaay another game another barb who 2shots me
Omg When?? I have suggestions on their right click attack..
i hit him 5 times with rapture and he was fine, jus 20% hp left why nother
it would be the most violent class while only consisting of 15% of the playerbase…
😒 hmmmm....
i know ur exaggerating but bardiche 3 taps bear, or 2 taps if u are built well
he was getting hit 2-3 times running away with i dont know how much hp turning to cat dash chicken double jump to keep momentum then just go on a place i cant possible jump and heal there
we repeat this pattern like 10ish times
he literally used 4 campfires since i cant get up to that stupid wall anyway right infront of my face
Yea even with spear they going down pretty speedy, trick is not get patted on the head by the guy 
unlucky. i don't personally want to believe that since all my experience seeing barb vs druid barb wins unless the druid is really good
he could be very good im not saying that hes not but that kit is way too overloaded
whoever made warlock with phantomize i hope they get hemmorhoids
what is my outplay to that with a barb if you can enlighten me ill be happy i cant catch him even if i go shirtless since chicken jump keeps panthers momentum i cant fight him head on since bear has free pdr and hits like a truck and even if i perfectly footsie his attacks and hit him back he can just go chicken heal and comeback
this game is turning more and more like LoL full of escape skills and kite, piece of cacu in all of its glory
in my opinion you can find him head one and its ur best bet besides a franny if they door jump
it all comes down to building properly but you cant build for every scenario, builds that cover the most scenarios become meta. pdr barb or 230 movespeed are the ways u win that 1v1 if both are built properly
honestly druids should be a specialized class like panter stronger but only panter bear stronger but only bear i dont understand this druid is just every class but in 1 character
also it might be my choice of contect creators but ive literally never saw anyone who likes to play druid all i hear from content creators is "remove druid from the game"
yup warlock just ruins the game when you come up against someone in decent gear who knows what they are doing, most broken class in the game, free healing, massive damage, unlimited casts, free phantomize get out of jail free card with no downsides
ok wtf is this spawn in goblin caves? i joined for a quick highroller and i spawn in cavetombs only to instantly get shot by a archer goblin and then ANOTHER archer goblin comes in while im still fighting the first in the same exact spot, by the time i get them both and start healing some dude has spawn rushed me and i had no chance
Ey we singing christian rock in gen chat come join
i cant even run because i get 2 curses on me that dmg for free
does it feel like theres no point in playing highroller without a bow to anybody else
"slightly reduced the damage of all weapons"
Brothers what does that mean. Can someone explain?
like daggers deal 5 dmg and axes 40 easy math
0_0
warlock takes 2 rooms after him beats 2 players and phantomizes around, fighter sucks it and this is it
what character should i learn Wyvern with solo? I Prefer rogue for spectral knight if that helps
i heard barb is good for wyvern, potion chugger is good
anyone know when the new season starts?
yo when is sorcerer
whats the point of dark leather pants??
is it even worth it
why would anyone run this pants over something else with less movement pen
Not really, the only point is that they give a really good amount of Magic resist, that's all
exactly but im wondering why it sells for a good amount of gold compared to some other pants @cosmic swan
Cheaters galore in this pos game, i always run into a team than d/c ????? Multiple times?!?!
Well I don't really know, they give a decen amount of armor and a lot of MR I guess some build are looking for that
Look out for @rich orbit killed spectral knight for him for a gold key, was not paid.
is 2sk for zirkiz eye good?
does playing this game in window fullscreen better for fps? i see a lot of people doing this
is there a quest line that gives you an extra stash tab?
Tavern master: confronting the darkness
Is there any skins besides the male cat skin in quests?
where do you get blue glowing ice eyes from?
Wolves 🙂
tyty. easier to find in normals or hr?
ice caves norms has always been where i got the most
tyty
@zinc sparrow how long are you gonna let this game just revolve entirely around third parties in trios, its genuinely annoying as fuck no one enjoys it. one third party is cool, 4th, 5th, 6th parties are terrible it basically just rewards hiding in spawn till the end of the round to swoop in and kill the stragglers. is this iron mace's vision for trios?
How would you fix it?
put less teams in ruins or make a bigger map
4 teams is plenty
Then people will complain that they can't PvP, that they do 't find anyone or that it's too easy do run away from fight
thats just untrue, you can find other teams in ruins with zero problems if there were 4 teams
Maybe there is a good solution about 3rd party but i'm not sure it's reducing the number of team per lobby. Before the Steam release when the player count was really low almost everygame was like that with 2-3 ennemy team, it seems cool at first but in the end it was boring
hard disagree, again ruins is a small ass map, 4 teams almost guarantees pvp if you are trying to find it but makes it so that if timmies want to hide they can still do so
Yeah I think so too, but like a LOT of people complained about that in the past when player count was low
there would be like 2 teams in the lobby back then
How is Ruin smaller than other map?
not 4 guaranteed
all the maps are too small and easy to traverse, i can get into multiple different player spawns in ruins in 30 seconds, it's a small map
Then maybe the issues is more about that than number of team. Maybe randomized module placement, randomized monster spawn, rotating some module, making things like ladder torch etc spawn at different spot
That could slow down people from rushing spawn and make the dungeon more interesting
In normal as long as it's not planned with a friend (trying to join the same lobby to team) then no. In HR it's bannable even if you meet someone in the dungeon and decide to play with him
But anyway imo it's unfair and kinda lame to PvP if you team with someone. It's fine if you only explore the dungeon, loot/kill mob or even boss with a random but you shouldn't 2vs1 other player, that suck
i've got a dumb question about how to tell if you're the only one going to the crypts or not
ahem
how do you tell if you're going to be the only one in the game?
i see people talk about it but they never specify how
something to do with the timer in the transition floor?
You can't be 100% sure but if the timer end as soon as you enter the red stair and you go in as soon as the gate open then there is good chance that you'r alone. Also if that happen while you'r in normal and see that a good amount of people died it can help too
ooooh, i see
the same rules apply for going to hell too i'm assuming
Yep, even more accurate if it happen in crypt/if more people died in crypt
gotcha
in the scenario where you go to crypts, and then go to hell, and you're genuinely the only one left, would the timer still be there or would it not show up at all?
cause i think that's where I'm getting confused
if there is no timer at all and you just go straight into the next map, that would mean you're alone, yeah?
The timer would not show at all, you'll only like 10 sec to trade with the Expressman (he have it's own timer in the trading windows)
Well not for sure, if someone took the red stairs before you and you'r the last the take them then you won't see the timer but won't be alone
okay i think i'm getting a clearer picture now
thank you for the help!
For playing poison build rouge, do i need buff duration or debuff duration?
Why is bard so OP
bard op
how does the high roller matchmaking work in this game ? me and my friends are under wanderer and we still get into demi gods games
gear score
they have lobbys from gearscore 125-224 and if your gear score is higher than its 224+
can rouge double jump? or did we just find a cheater on trios
cheater. report them
yes rouge can double jump
go sit in timeout
sadge
do tanglethread trousers stack reduce movespeed?
fr?
when did they change cleric big heals to allow them to heal enemy players does anyone know if thats recent?
are the halloween cosmetics only usable during halloween season?
because IM decided to make all the maps square cells. because, yaknow, eventually ™️ they will be procedurally generated.
But they should never have done this. they've spent so much time on these maps and even made, MAPS (press m) for them. So they probably aren't changing to become procedural randomly generated any time soon.
Not to mention that ruins lags bad af for fps in certain cells.
i know but there are still demi gods in my neophyte lobbies
if you actually want exclusive shitter lobbies and sbmm ON TOP of gbmm this game would have 1 person per raid.
better than fight players that have 10x my playtime and skills
its players like you that are the reason for patch 69 and the stupid gear based matchmaking in general. Why cry playing a hardcore game.
this game is not new player friendly
cant even learn the game and im getting put in demi gods lobbies
Wait how long does stuff stay in the Expressman after a raid if it was supposed to stay until I went into another raid. I had to leave after the raid and when I got back though I hadnt left the game or changed class or went into another raid the Expressman no longer had any of it???
not supposed to be
What are we supposed to do in this game?
Run around and collect trinkets to make money, to buy better trinkets?
I agree, it's a slippery slope for sure.
I've seen a 60 minute timer, hover over the items
Dang. Alright just making sure cause earlier I played a raid and when I got out I was missing like 3 blue spell books and a buckler frommy cleric stash and thought I was just getting bug after bug
Sinity does Ale stack?
Woah, the Cleric Ale Master skill lets you stack Ale? Like Drink 5 Ales for +100 damage?
Ah okay.
What are we having tonight?
I was drinking Kracken Rum last night.
I ganked a Barb who ran up on me when I was cleric earlier. Bro thought I missed my judgement and rushed me. That was a mistake buddy
Can we please get stash sort button plz
I need to find this flavor!
Black Cherry Kraken Rum!
Captain Morgan had nice Pumpkin Spice and other flavors in a round Jack o Blast bottle, that was good stuff!
Oo, strong stuff!
I'd go for a Margarita and some Shrimp Tacos!!
Hehe, that sounds trippy!
I just looked at those Jack O Blast Captain Morgan bottles...$100? wth?
when next wipe>
Well, the bottles were $20 ish, they were not produced since at least year before last, now they are collectible?
This captain morgans Jack O Blast bottled rum of several flavors is no longer produced, so it looks like they are collectible and going up in price. Not sure they are worth $100 honestly.
https://liquorfreight.com/products/captain-morgan-jack-blast-spiced-pumpkin-750ml?variant=41694143905975¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA88a5BhDPARIsAFj595ioDryQZNPzoJyVqX3ldsE_rVne1CRwusUdjNAnejV2olAHeOFwRwUaAjs-EALw_wcB
I'm new to the game. I keep getting a poor performance on harmonic shield when I skip the last two notes with charismatic performance. It's like 60% chance it's poor performance. Otherwise it's perfect. Is this a known bug or am I doing something wrong?
Yer making me look at Rum, I'm going to get in trouble! Lols
I just found a bottle of Kraken Black Cherry Rum, it's stupid priced, $124. I wonder if it has to be imported.
banshee is OP
wow no update for so long, when next
They will drop something for the Thanskgiving day holiday probably.
Hopefully there taking time to do something like a rework of the test server so it become more interesting to use etc. Something like that https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/591702/incentivize-using-the-test-server-by-rewarding-and-including-players
I'd just like to see lots of new maps and creatures, to throw off the no lifers that have memorized every mechanic and every map.
whats the max PDR ?
I'm really not sure about that. Imo better content would be something that improve the gameplay loop, new thing to do in the dungeon like this fishing idea they talked about or like imagine the Expressman instead of being between floor for everyone was in a room in the dungeon and your need to go there to give him stuff. Or like a Forge room where you can bring gear to improve it, reroll a random attributs or just improve the rolls of an attributs something things like that.
There's a lot of really cool things possible, I really like this suggestion's idea https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem
For the memorizing issue they could try that #game-discussion message
hey quick question is their magic scaling for Pestilence?
65%
will true magic add more per TIC so like if i had 5 tru magic it will be 9 tic instead of 4?
Nop true/Additional will only proc one time
thanks
hmmm okay thank you
You can try to ask in the ranger channel. I'm not sure if the true proc with every arrow if the debuff is still up, it might only reset the timer
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please fix cleanse it used to work on the lich curses i have tried it recently and i does not work at all not for warlock curses or the boss curse.
Nerf Miner xd
Does normals still have different gear lobby’s?
how much armor is each 1% pdr?
can someone tell me please how it is possible to beat druid as a wizard
Hit spells
Kite with spells, can't catch up with you until decide to melee,
If theyre panther and you hit them with a spell, 1 or 2 bonks with a staff and theyre toast.
is the game being overun by hackers for anyone else?
why do they keep turning Arena off?
Few nights ago someone was attacking my server. Everyone was rubberbanding. Said something like "game has been paused due to server attacks" but it didnt pause anything
or am i just that unlucky to be bugged out for every hr match
that's ass
1st time ive seen it happen since 1st wipe
10 mins ago i was in hr and it said pause game server attack thought it was fine and was attacking slimes rubber banded to death lost 100+ap
does anyone know if additional phys/ true phys applies to druid transformations? i keep getting different answers
guys how much muffin is worth?
5 dollarinos
if you use a trap disarm kit then cancel the use is it suppose to disappear even if you didnt use it all the way and cancel it mid way
i tested it twice and it consumes a kit when you cancel it
@sdf Please rollback to something similar to patch 69. its the ONLY way to get rid of those GEARSCORE MM lobbies. Please do something like White/Green +4 Blue/Purple/orange +5 and legendary/Artifacts +6 (give really cool affixes for Artifacts). Make all weapons damage from white to artifact pretty much the same. DONT REDUCE HEALTH POOL. Reduce ranged weapons damage a bit. Remove all GSMM lobbies even 0-25 and we are good!
guys any solution for client always dying??
when finished a dungeon, loading up and then on lobby client sometimes died
anyone having prob like this?
Hell nah
@sdf Please rollback to something similar to patch 69. its the ONLY way to get rid of those GEARSCORE MM lobbies. Please do something like White/Green +4 Blue/Purple/orange +5 and legendary/Artifacts +6 (give really cool affixes for Artifacts). Make all weapons damage from white to artifact pretty much the same. DONT REDUCE HEALTH POOL. Reduce ranged weapons damage a bit. Remove all GSMM lobbies even 0-25 and we are good!
unique frost, +9armor, 1.9 max hp, 1.5 phys red, 7.2 buff, 2 ad mem. guesstimate worth
350g
uh how to get more bluestones shards if maxed?
@wide depot hey buddy how’s it goin
That’s what I was thinking, slightly reduce the base attribute disparity to solve this issue, not revert back completely. I guess they didn’t see a middle ground
400g max
No but people want to win easily thanks to the strongest equipment, then they should learn to use mouse and keyboard, are you crazy?
Maybe consider making market more friendly for user 😉
how long after the end of a raid does it take for the items given to the expressman take to show up? And how long do you have to buy them back from him after they do?