game-discussion

[paper forum]

Quests/affinity needed for falchion of honor craft?

[still cloud]

kobolds agroing from getting low health pulling the whole room 1 at a god damn time and every kobold in adjacent rooms to the doors your trying to open is the sole reason why I will never play frost cavern once the quests are complete. such a trash tactic. its not like it adds any dificulty its just annoying af

[storm stratus]

play barb problem solved

[still cloud]

no w key warriors here bro

[storm stratus]

I played every class relatively extensively, I can confidenly claim that barb feels the smoothest, most satisfying and longterm mental-health wellbeing class to play all around, your loss.

[runic turtle]

He’s complaining about lowly kobolds. He don’t got the spirit for Barb

[storm stratus]

you might be right.

[frail patrol]

What are the gear score lobbies. like the number you need to get into diffrent lobbies in norms. so far I know theres u24, u124 and thats it

[runic turtle]

That’s it basically. Above 125 there’s no cap

[frail patrol]

Okay, thank you :]

[dusty cloak]

can i please stop getting 2 hit by a bear for the love of god man do these devs play the game i do not understand

[quartz escarp]

150 affinity

[weary token]

any1 feel like sdf is killing the game he wants to remove duo witch i think is the most balanced way to play the game

[dry briar]

anyone can link me to trading server?

[subtle heart]

anyone know how much a legendary bardiche with 3 attack rolls would sell for?

[wanton hazel]

spawning in graveyard on HR is a death sentence, I have yet to make it out of that module without getting rushed down

[meager kiln]

Click this link to join my Clan in Clash Royale! https://link.clashroyale.com/invite/clan/en?tag=G8GCYPPR&token=3ttmkgkm&platform=iOS

[wanton hazel]

The community is going to kill this game. It's impossible to do anything besides pvp

In HR, in Normals, in sub 25, its just barbarians breaking down doors, druids jumping through doors, and if you don't want to do pvp then people tell you "well its a pvp game" cool dude, I cant get shit done because I'm always fighting everyone else off, I cant do PVE, because its begging someone to 3rd party me while I try to clear stuff out

[stark flare]

Play warlock, problem solved

[storm stratus]

disgusting

[strange plinth]

so wyvern can jump into you doinmg the chest method then jump into you again basically an instant kill

[whole raven]

any tips on getting Beetle Wings? I think it drop from elite death beetles or something...

[night folio]

They drop from the large death beetles. Really easy to farm in the SE part of goblin caves. A room full of them and spiders. Upstairs and down. In the little rooms attached it it as well. Just watch out for the pressure plates

[whole raven]

❤️

[pseudo fern]

Where do u report a hacker?

[gaunt pollen]

kited the last 5 matches i played today, love the ms meta

[whole raven]

In only one character im having this problem: When moving gold from inventory to stash, despite de gold bags they keep going to the side of the empty bags... Any tips?

[storm stratus]

its a bug and/or a fever dream induced patch by one of the devs. Either one, just wait for em to 'fix' it. It happens to all my characters I didn't even know it works for some ppl

[magic fable]

If the seal clubbing fast TTK gameplay comes back I'm uninstalling Dark and Darker. This is why +all attributes failed twice.

However, TTK between players with lower gear levels (Squire items) is longer than I would prefer.

[indigo ginkgo]

Dang it, the weekend isn't over, but they took Arena away already.

[robust vine]

From earning 2k points when i run from crypts to hell, mostly purple and a tonne of treasure, as you would as a dungeon diver... now, Ruins, to Crypts, to hell. most purple treasure, even a pvp kill. 574 points.

HR runs are sooooo satisfying and feel like im doing good work! /s ffs ive just hit Wanderer and it feels so meek. may as well just do 25 point runs in high roller atleast then it would feel like im gaining something decent with gear runs

[orchid vapor]

Hey guys important question about the expressman is it okay to put gear that you find on other players into him or will he lose them?

[naive sail]

i would love a boss training area/option. no loot needed. just experience. especially with inferno taking so much time to get to. that would be splendid

[worldly veldt]

anyone got a fix for gold not shift+r to coin bags?

[azure socket]

wait for patch

[worldly veldt]

L

[wooden lichen]

Gee I wonder how I'll die today in Dark and Darker
-Mosquito Warlock/Rogue
-Trapspam Ranger
-Song of Shadows landmine
-Invis pot fighter

Gimme a waamburger and a side of french cries please

[indigo ginkgo]

It's called THE TEST SERVER!

[naive sail]

how does that work? i can spawn at the cave troll, warlord, wvyern?

[indigo ginkgo]

The dungeon is mostly empty...mostly.

??
Coins won't go into bags when transferred to inventory from on person. Bug?

[tough heath]

pretty dumb how you still cant report people for team killing if your name is red lmao

[naive sail]

i wasnt talking about an empty dungeon. i would love a like arena that spawns you into fighting any boss you like. a time saver basically. no loot just saved time before you jump into the real dungeon and do it with the pvp and timed areas

[indigo ginkgo]

But you have to learn maps, and be able to get to the boss quickly to have the time needed to kill it.

[naive sail]

lol counter to my point but sure...get gud. i already understand that. but thanks for the help. you should just work for the team. ideas from others are shit. lol it is just something i would like. you dont have to like it 😂

[indigo ginkgo]

I'm glad I don't understand your point.

[naive sail]

dude. maybe dont speak. seems like you're short a few chromosomes. lol good laugh though

[indigo ginkgo]

Thank you for this.
You and your comment are reported for harrassment.
Bye!
Blocked.

[naive sail]

lol

[toxic cliff]

I'm only getting Lion's Head Chest spawns in Ice Caves, is it that rare to get the golden chests?

[strange olive]

Chest spawns are static

[fast bronze]

bro since when did normal ice spiders one shot headshot at full hp, since when were spiders able to headshot?????

[strange olive]

Headshots were ALWAYS a thing. Damage hitgroup multipliers work for both players AND NPCs

[fast bronze]

bro i'm a person that is standing, and the ice spider one shot headshots me at full hp

[strange olive]

Ok. What class were you playing?
And we're you naked?

[wanton pumice]

Just saw the announcements this game is going to die

[strange olive]

On the contrary, I think it's going in the right direction.

The game was trying to be a competitive PVP game with completely randomized gear stats and a huge power gap between low rarity gear, and high rarity gear.

Do I even need to mention why that's not sustainable?

[weak sapphire]

just get better?

[indigo ginkgo]

Weird. I read this, and then I smelled Peanut Butter and Jelly. Time for a Sandwhich!

[strange olive]

That's the most random thing I've heard all day

[weak sapphire]

so real

[wanton hazel]

about the level of discourse I come to expect from this discord

[indigo ginkgo]

ignore those folks, block is your best friend.

[wanton hazel]

bruh I'm 35, I've been on the internet for decades, I've yet to see such concentrated a-hole vibes, just wall to wall

[magic fable]

Same here and I miss the old internet everyday lol

[wanton hazel]

idk if its just this game or what, but seriously, its not that the people I run into here are MORE toxic, its just that its CONSTANT, and from ALL SIDES, the other day I agreed with a guy and he got mad at me

[dreamy valve]

anyone getting moderate stuttering US east?

[indigo ginkgo]

it has toned down a bit, early in the year and prior, people would just come into chat and trash talk the game to no end.
It's much better today, probably because they have more time to respond and deal with chat and in game moderation needs.

[spark talon]

what is the banshee sonnet for?

[indigo ginkgo]

Not here mate, I'm USA EAST near DC

[dreamy valve]

thnx, yeah must be me or something, its sucks

[spare ravine]

@random echo good fight buddy

[random echo]

check that ego buddy. you ran away last night

[visual fable]

Qq: If you have 20% armor pen and the target has 10% pdr, do you do bonus damage?

Or just negate the pdr

[spare ravine]

The only one who has been running every time I see you in the dungeon is you. I have two clips of me chasing you for a good 5 mins each time lol. Don’t worry I’ll put it in the next video.

[glossy swallow]

Can we please remove true invisibility its so dumb

[random echo]

you are in 300+ gearscore in normal lobbies the only choice is running lol. you are just gear checking every fight theres no skill expression whatsoever

[spare ravine]

Gear checking? You act like 300 gear score is a lot?

[random echo]

300+ gear score vs someone that is 125 is a small advantage

[spare ravine]

lol cope harder my guy

[random echo]

title the video "gear checking everyone i see in dark and darker" ill be sure to watch it lil buddy. "high quality pvp"

[spare ravine]

I’ll title salty barb runs for 10 mins and flames in discord and gets mad when I shit on him the next day

[random echo]

you are gear checking every fight theres no skill involved. you are clearly doing it to stroke ego lmao

[spare ravine]

Im wearing pretty standard gear lol.

Most of my pieces were rares. My long sword and recurve were legendary for 200 gold a piece.

[random echo]

and didnt you die with your cleric gear? what happened to the high quality cleric pvp? all ive seen if you running around in leggo and purps in normal lobbies egoing everything

[spare ravine]

Don’t flame people in discord when u die u know what I mean?

[random echo]

yet you literally @'d me to flame me after you killed me wearing nothing lol. your ego is crazy

congrats on 10 subcribers btw

[spare ravine]

Yeah I @ed you this time cause you @ed me yesterday out of no where. I didn’t even know who u were. I just @ed u this time cause I thought it was hilarious.

I started my YouTube two weeks ago and have 50+ subs not doing to bad honestly. Appreciate it tho

[random echo]

like i said congrats

[spare ravine]

Moral of the story don’t flame people in discord. Just say ggs next.

[sour lily]

Yeah I think you should get banned for starting it in this chat.

[random echo]

^

[spare ravine]

Yeah for real

[spare ravine]

Why are u writing “^” you’re literally the one who started it with me lmao. Go up in chat to yesterday.

See u messaged me first. I didn’t know who u were.

[pallid shoal]

I mean it looks like you @d this dude and started it from my point of view, and everyone else in this chat room

[spare ravine]

Use ur brain my guy. I just showed u the start of the convo

[pallid shoal]

Dude take your childish drama to DMs we don't care. You look foolish.

[spare ravine]

I’m just making it a point to not flame others when u die. He started it. Thank you good bye.

[dark estuary]

they need to fix the ai this is like the third time I've run into people pulling a rooms worth of enemies into another room and all of the ai swap to attacking me without me attacking them and now im fighting both players and mobs without initiating any kind of fight its ridiculous

[random echo]

too bad gifs dont work 😦

[sour lily]

I want talk about the thing that you're not supposed to put a link to in this discord apparently. I think it should be part of the ingame ui instead.

[unborn sedge]

why are gold pouches broken? gold when moved into the stash or inv wont go into bags any more. like 10 stacks gold wont interact with bags anymore.

[random echo]

its found in raid gold I think. which makes it quest related. if its loose gold it wont auto go into bags because it would mess it up. this is only speculation

[sour lily]

If they changed that because they added a quest that needs looted gold coins, they should revert that, it's a bad ui change.

[random echo]

thats what it is I think. when i sell stuff my gold goes into pouches and bags but if i bring loose gold out of raid it wont go into bags or pouches

[iron flower]

WHEREW ARE THE BLUE CRYSTAL BALLS??????

[sour lily]

High roller

[unborn sedge]

facts

[sour lily]

or queue ice caves and pvp on pyramid for the guaranteed blue. Get your fucking prayers out for the crystal ball.

[iron flower]

dumbest quest man

[fluid tundra]

There's also another guaranteed blue in ruins too

[loud cobalt]

Does arena have gearscore lobbys?

[heavy shoal]

the demon dogs in inferno spawn them alot

[opaque stratus]

Completed all of the Tailoring and Leathersmithing quests, but I don't see golden shadow mask or cape to craft? Do I need to raise affinity on OTHER characters too?

[stark summit]

just wait for shop to reset

[opaque stratus]

oh the big reset did it. weird i checked over hours before the little resets didnt work

[rancid sorrel]

fix movement speed, fix spam crouching, fix movement acceleration, make doors take longer to open/close so it's not a chase simulator, and maybe ull have a good game

[dull tulip]

theres 100,000 people here its already a good game

[earnest raft]

Goblin merchant should give the loot to the last person who damaged you if you die to the void

[subtle goblet]

The abyss takes all

[tribal gale]

does rubysilver still spawn in the goblin caves?

[fluid tundra]

I believe it just spawns on inferno

[primal oyster]

only ruins boss man (eighter ruins if you kill the two bosses in the middle room - or in inferno layer) thanks

[tribal gale]

thanks bro

[primal oyster]

also easier access the following link, and scroll to find the Ores - Rubysilver ore so you can see it in map - select inferno layout:
https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/Inferno-01-N

[tribal gale]

thats what ive been using to quest I just know on gob caves it says random ore so I wasnt sure if it spawned rubysilver ir not

[primal oyster]

nop only cobalt , gold, random ore(copper, iron) on gobos champ, cheers

[bleak mural]

why do i keep getting connection fail. please quit the game

[flint ingot]

I killed a druid in bear form and his body literally disappeared, a whole ahh bear just vanished nice game

[fluid tundra]

He probably clipped into an object or something

[flint ingot]

Thats what I assumed but I looked all over the place even in the floor below and it wasn't there

[bleak mural]

why cant i connect to the game i keep getting "connetion to server failed. please quit the game"

[tribal gale]

Just rolled my first pair of rubysilver legs and its completely useless for my fighter🥲

[ripe hare]

at all here maybe we should ask them for faster item identification with clickboxes what to search instead of name typing scrolling

[tame locust]

Just got some insane bis tanglethread trousers if anyone is looking 5 max health 1.5% phys damage b onus 👀

[unborn cape]

sometimes rubysilver is in Watering Hole (ruins) in cave

in~ 50%games

[glass moon]

where on ice caverns can I find frost skeleton crossbowmen

[subtle heart]

how much do gold coin chests usually sell for?

[oak summit]

50 gold

[slow canopy]

Use this to help - https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/IceCavern-01-N

[marble harbor]

does druids natural healing perk still making your rat more visible?

[bitter marlin]

Is it worth to do quests on different chars or should you only quest on one char?

[soft crest]

One char imo

[jagged dust]

how many downvotes does it take to get dark red name?

[safe patrol]

IDK I JUST GOT MINE TONIGHT SUPER COOL

[full star]

SAME

[idle grotto]

guys

[silent geyser]

Only worth if you want the items or to level quick

[exotic gust]

A warlock in blues with epic spellbook just did 90% of my HP (130ish) with a single curse? is that legit?

[sleek lark]

how much -% magic damage reduction did u have

[idle grotto]

lycan or lizardmen?

[exotic gust]

around 5% MR

[long compass]

Cap

[sleek lark]

you either got hit by 2 curses or hes in perfectly rolled BiS blues bc no curse is doing 117 damage even on 5% MDR

[exotic gust]

His second curse finished me off with the upfront damage, i expected him to be full legendary bis was he was blues with epic spellbook, idk

[long compass]

Clip

[exotic gust]

I dont have one, jw if thats normal or not.. guess not

[sleek lark]

i mean something else u didnt notice def happened, ive never heard of CoP randomly doing 4x the damage it should

[slate stump]

i really just love this game so much my favorite part is fighting warlocks

itsl ike genuinely so much fun fighting 320 movespeed with heavy damage

[earnest cliff]

Since they made bows longer to swap to they need to do it with spellcasting focuses

[slate stump]

deadass like i get punished for running away i get punished for chasing them i get punished for even being near them

druid is too nerfed im playing warlock now i miss my 1 taps

[earnest cliff]

the ranged kiting game is very much in caster's favor right now

[native isle]

Not possible

[sleek lark]

did they even do that? I thought equip time change was equiping from inventory so u couldnt use both crossbow and bow at once

[earnest cliff]

oh shit maybe it was only that? they need to change the equip times. I thought that's what the change was and was super happy

[lilac agate]

Devs need to either just have less quests or come up with some original ones... why tf they keep recycling the same quests each week

[sleek lark]

it was only that

[earnest cliff]

I thought it was a great idea to increase the time to swap from melee/unarmed to ranged. It would make the speed debuff from swapping longer and therefore kiting is less effective

[sleek lark]

as long as bhopping is still in the game an increase in swap time does nothing. you just move full speed in the air while swapping.

[earnest cliff]

most people can't bhop more than once so it'd be effective. they're also removing bhopping so no biggie there

[hushed ravine]

is warlord still bugged or can i do my quest now

[halcyon yew]

5 games in row and not and only 2 violet sellable items with 300-400 luck, wtf? 😄

[flint dune]

ok so i just did geared trio with randoms, just to get instandly killed by both of them (at start of match). this is normal accepted behavior?

[brisk frost]

anyone know how to do the empty lobby que?

[frosty island]

Turn off some of the light sources in the dungeons - Currently the game is too bright and not give a true vibe of a dungeon crawler experience! Also we the players has "torches" and "lantern's" for this purpose, so why is the dungeons so bright - Was the lantern just made for a selling tool for the market or something?

Like shouldn't it be the other way around? That players had to use more torches and lanterns if they wanted light? Or turn on the dungeon light - Rather than the other way around?

Also game is called dark and darker so u expect darkness but you get the sun

Game has to be harder (In pve/pvp) And what is not better than = to turn off the damn light IM's so you have to use the "torch" or drop it on grounds to see something when like fighting monsters, use "light orb" as mage, (I mean it even has "Light orb" in the name), or holding a lantern in offhand. Please! It make no sense the dungeon is filled up with light torches because it's only for the players sake not the ai monsters!

My suggestion: Turn off the entire or most of the light in the dungeon, increase the time players has in the dungeon and remove the minimap from the game so players can't see where they are on the map/dungeon!

It would give the vibe of a more true dungeon crawler experience, it would make the gamer harder and a bit slower to progress though the dungeon and to find an escape - Not to mention if players wouldn't be able to see the minimap both pve and pvp would be harder, more funnier and chaotic and a escape is or would also be more durable for all classes rather than in a dungeon filled up with so much light and brightness it's like having a second sun inside the cave!

[supple condor]

most vets know the maps by heart and wont need map so it would only hurt new players

[obtuse talon]

I agree with less initial light and more time. But the minimap was recently added and people would just bypass the removal of minimap by having a map on secondary screen, I know not all players have two screens but still.

[frosty island]

it would not only hurt new players that there is total darkness in the dungeon but the minimap surely

[frosty island]

That might be true but i personally think it would be better that way rather than having the minimap to see where u want to go ect. It just helps people get from point A to B right now by having a minimap

It makes it even more easier to rush ect and currently there is light so people can see doors well ect.

[dense shuttle]

Yeah do not remove the map.

[frosty island]

Yeah remove the mini map, turn all the darkness off. So u have trouble rushing or even to be able to see the door without light and we need to remove the minimap so u wont be looking at that meanwhile running around in the darkness.

[dense shuttle]

HR yeah sure

[stone falcon]

Warlock needs to get nerfed even more imo it's just so unsatisfying and annoying to fight against

[dense shuttle]

Casual mode is for learning, HR is for the hardcore stuff.

[frosty island]

No - Everything under 124 gs is a mode for learning

[dense shuttle]

Not all about you mate, just because you would prefer that doesn't mean the rest of the player base would unfortunately.

[frosty island]

U wont be learning a thing if it's not the same both in casual and HR but clearly you don't know why it's all clear to me after your next message!

[dense shuttle]

Now it's clear, you're just wanting it gone so you can do better in game.

Goodbye sir, I do not want to waste anymore of my day.

[frosty island]

No that is not true. I want it so it's harder for every player in-game and fights would be funnier, i want it so rushers just can't rush because they can "see" or look at the minimap meanwhile running (if there was total darkness) the minimap had to be removed, otherwise good players would just look down at the minimap in the dark dungeon and thus be able rush! And yeah even if there was total darkness and no minimap players would still find a way and rushers would just rush around with a torch in their hand instead of fist. But then a movement penalty to the torch would come and thus make it even harder for rushers to rush since now monsters would be able maybe run fast enough to actually attack them before they could open a door.

[frosty island]

Thank you i dont want to waste my time. By having a discussion with a wall!

[cursive stratus]

So you cant duck spectral knight's long range horizontal slash anymore I see. Thats new

[obtuse talon]

Or, hear my out, they add a new vendor called the explorer or mapmaker or something like that. At wipe you start with a blank minimap, and you have to map the dungeons yourself by exploring it personally AND EXTRACTING with the knowledge of layout for it be persistent. Make it so this vendor has all the "explore location x" quests, and the quest rewards are maps with loot locations, these loot locations can also be quest items needed by other vendors etc etc.

[frosty island]

It's a good idea, but the problem with a minimap (at least meanwhile having a total dark cave) is that you could just look down at the minimap and use that to (see) so you would be able to run faster over to a door ect. Than if u had to put your torch out to see and follow a wall to find the door. Also it would be more dangerous because there is monsters in the dungeon -

Right now everyone can see when they come into the dungeon, so there is no trouble and we also has a mini map so it makes things even easier.. People just skip chest's and monsters, running straight for bosses, ore or players! It's stupid as hell and shouldn't be allowed to do such a thing that easy when u just came into a (dungeon/cave)

[desert orchid]

what does banshee even attack with I cant see anything and drop dead from full instantly

[sleek lark]

theres like 4 attacks ur prob dying to the eyeballs she spawns that shoot missiles

[stone hull]

Cleric player LF peeps to play with - best healer ull ever game with, if you wanna party up send me a dm! ❤️

[unreal obsidian]

have they made changes to the match making yet?

[prime pawn]

yo quick question about the warlock "torture mastery"
it says "all curses inflicted upon the enemies restores 2 health with each instance of damage dealt"

this reads to me as such, any curse i cast will restore my health by 2 per tick of damage.
now i see/hear guides say that "every time you inflic damage you get health".

which one is right then?

[terse ivy]

Both saythe same thing, no?

[kind forum]

any curse damage heals like curse of pain or power of sacrifice only in demon form do you get in hit heals

[prime pawn]

the latter just says each time i inflict damage, not curse-exclusive like the in game drescription

and does curse of pain stack on a single target?

[kind forum]

no stacking anymore

[harsh plinth]

How long is the first map of ice cavern

[zenith cloak]

is there a reason why quests cant be account based istead of character?

[runic turtle]

You get more rewards with it per character tho.

[zenith cloak]

i know but its such a grind to get them all do you have to commit to 1 character per season

[frosty knot]

If you want to be most efficient then yeah, do one char up to max affinity then coast with crafts for everyone. Affinity is account based but rewards are character specific

[main salmon]

You guys reckon Druid/Bard is a viable duo?

[runic turtle]

I just do all quests on one character to get cosmetics. Do quests for gold bags for everyone else and that’s about it

Probably, upping druids action speed would help

[clear blade]

Anyone have like a 3rd party website or something that tracks what map is on rotation?

[tribal shell]

How would you rank the bosses in order of difficulty?

[worthy scroll]

easiest to hardest

cyclops
ghost king
lich
troll
banshee
warlord
spectral knight
wyvern

@tribal shell

[strong ember]

what ahappened to economy?

[prime pawn]

how the hell do i get into the forgotten castle crypt to do my missions, if i queue up for forgotten castle i just end up in the ruins

[worldly harbor]

red exits

[worthy cradle]

Goblin gamba

[prime pawn]

oh so it's the next floor

[strong ember]

rare for 50g and legendary for 200 seems awesome. Can we remove goblin recovery system?

[main salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-gif-24337002

[agile aurora]

still no hotfix for the gold bug? embarrassing lmao

[indigo ginkgo]

Is Arena up today?

[indigo ginkgo]

Glad to have that system, it has saved many a great item from the void!

[strong ember]

but it doesnt work if you drop to the void

[indigo ginkgo]

What does that mean?

[strong ember]

your items wont get back from abbys void ,also cuz this system everything is cheap

[indigo ginkgo]

Well, okay. When we stop expecting perfection...we find happiness.

Idea:
Create a solo dungeon instance for us to finish our quests against NPCs only, removing any quests calling for players to murder other players. Let's get peaceful!

[loud furnace]

is it optimal to buy gk to save space instead of using bags if you don’t have a chest yet? or should i just spend the 6k on a bag to hold more gold?

[queen narwhal]

tell me why skele champ is aggroed on to me when I'm in cyclops room

[steady valve]

If you went through that top room, he will follow you O.O

[stone falcon]

Imo spectral knight is pretty doable, I learned it after ~20h

[queen narwhal]

he's following me for 5 minutes and then i get clapped by a cleric its fucking ridiculous

[steady valve]

😭 💔

[scenic quarry]

hey guys what item could i buy as a way of holding onto my gold, i am filling up here

[supple condor]

Treasurer has small Gold Pouches holding 50.. after some quests u will get Gold Coin Bags holding 1000.. (also made from troll and wolf pelt).. later there is SPectral Coin Bag for 2.5k and Coin Chest for 10k

[terse sable]

druid is actually kinda broken now in squire lobbies

[scenic quarry]

@supple condor yeah i got a bunch of goild coin bag, and spec bags but i am pushing past that and was thinking gold ingots but the price is to unstable any idea on any long term investment items that i can see a return on profit?

[supple condor]

Skull Keys, Golden Keys, Frost Keys.. most high end gear is traded for Skull Keys / Golden keys

[scenic quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/you-da-man-you-the-man-pointing-you-gif-5861126726214556501

[crisp fjord]

yo so like are they not banning the kids that team kill or what

this game is going to shit u should make it to where u cant hurt ur teammates

this is the 4th person

[unkempt shore]

you should solo or play with friends... I never trust randoms in any game

[thin bear]

Day 11-12 asking Ironmace to add a playable Gorgone/Medusa race skin

[crisp fjord]

you should be banned for team killing tho

[unkempt shore]

Doesnt it make your name red? it does something else too i think idk. You can downvote them or something there is a rep system

[flint hare]

hey guys my friend cant open the game he keeps getting "error code:7" do any of u know a fix?

[lavish ivy]

All it does is give them a cooldown on matchmaking that slowly gets bigger, but if they have enough friends that upvote them again it doesnt really matter

[warm elm]

@simple summit griffin a scammer

[hexed shell]

just lost two good kits to a poison rogue that ganked me while I was fighting golem and the second one to a ranger trap. I came here to cry about it. have a nice day

[placid cipher]

F

[hexed shell]

thanks

[white ridge]

Hey folks i have a market related question for those with alot of gold, what are your best investmeant items, right now i have been buying Coin bags and they have even been trickeling up in price, but are there some better investmeant items that are stable, keys seem to fluctuate alot and i never see coin chests available. where is everyone dumping there gold? got any advice?

[primal steeple]

get gold keys and trade them for skull keys

[echo sparrow]

I give my gold to the one true demi-god Solaris

[frosty knot]

Spider silk/boss drops are thousands of gold atm for arena crafts. Only safe bet is skull keys or named uniques

[hardy dirge]

Gear good high-end gear only gets pricier

[frosty terrace]

but random nerfs can drastically change the value of certain gear

[runic turtle]

True but I think ruby and stuff like tri pelt is safe . Occultist boots went down the gutter

[subtle heart]

please make the game back to pvp focused, this is boring

[frosty terrace]

wym

[tulip pine]

ranger traps are bad for the game. @zinc sparrow @glad thunder its crazy how yall do nothing about this

@subtle heart im making a youtube vid where i cleared 140k in profit off a 1400g kit.
from trapping people and killing them while sitting in a bush reading my book irl . That shouldnt be a thing LMAO

[hardy dirge]

Just don't walk in traps

[frigid storm]

does this work? still?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFtCPNoKf6U

[tulip pine]

well im glad both people above showed very low IQ solutions to a problem that most people would agree is an issue in the game ' just look down' logic is sad fella's

[valid smelt]

@tulip pine Yep, ranger traps needs a serious rework. Maybe they should just do damage and slow for a few seconds, but defnitely not completely trap a player.

[hardy dirge]

That's kinda the point of a trap, the logic of run at everything that moves even knowing they have traps is bad logic

See a ranger notice ranger is baiting you to a place do not go to place or check ground before going to place

People who constantly die to trap rangers are low iq lol stand behind a door and shut it over and over till ranger gets bored and pushes you easy kills easy game

[valid smelt]

@hardy dirge You don't know they have traps at all. Most of the time you walk in a trap before you ever saw the ranger.
Also you can't even see the traps usually. They place it in pitch black darkness, under the corpse of a player/mob, under some loot they dropped etc.

[hardy dirge]

Be more aware it's a dungeon full of dangers and traps that's the game you bought bub

[valid smelt]

It definitely doesn't happen often to me, but the fact that it does happen sometimes and there is literally nothing i or anyone can do about it is a joke lol

[hardy dirge]

Oh no sometimes you die and you want it changed so sometimes you don't die sounds like you wanna be playing pall world bub

[torn hollow]

Placing under player/mob does not actually work since those are client side also. Only a bad ranger puts them where they see a body.

[tulip pine]

@hardy dirge you have really low iq responses .. players houldnt be able to lock down a charcter for 8 seconds . That is not good gameplay , that is not skilled gameplay. We want solutions and the game to improve. If you want to live in a world where it is what it is all the time , you dont advance. play tests are for feedback like this.

[valid smelt]

@hardy dirge I mean... you're obviously a biased ranger player that needs a crutch at this point... I can't bring logic into an argument with you.

You're saying i should be aware for traps that are 100% impossible to see and even disarm sometimes? Every pitch black spot is a potential trap. Guess im just supposed to jump over every single one and just don't go to spots i can't jump over?

[karmic spade]

skill issue

[worthy scroll]

ranger trap needs to be removed ranger mains are already pea brain so they are gonna argue that its good

[karmic spade]

dont step in them wtf? yall want everything nerf till its just barbs lmao

[worthy scroll]

my point lol

[quartz escarp]

you're making your argument worse by saying this it just shows how unaware you are

[karmic spade]

lolll i can tell you main solo squire lobbies

[quaint tundra]

Anybody know how I fix this (Failed to update TavernComn.dll (code : 0)) error? I have no 2ndary anti-virus software, i tried scan and repair (also got an error) I uninstalled and tried re-installing (getting the original raverncomn.dll error still). The only thing that has changed is that i moved to a new address using a different ISP. Struggle-bus'ing over here.

[tulip pine]

@karmic spade have a better response.

[worthy scroll]

No player that is in a high pressure situation going to look into A MOBS CORPSE and look for a trap..

[loud moat]

Some dude will argue with you nonstop here and then you find out he thinks barbarian is overpowered or something

[karmic spade]

blow me?

[quartz escarp]

traps become way worse to go against in high gears and you're telling me i play low gear like the past 2 things you've said point directly towards the fact that you play squire kits yourself

[tulip pine]

@karmic spade why act like a child?

[karmic spade]

look down, game is hard

[worthy scroll]

hes obvisouly never been caught in a trap and a geared judement smite staff cleric comes out of a dark corner

[tulip pine]

@karmic spade You are indeed a slave mind.

[karmic spade]

you woulnd't say that to my face

[worthy scroll]

we are online...

[tulip pine]

@karmic spade i just called you.

[neon thorn]

Can someone please report Spectral Knight jumping on dead bodies that s is so dumb

[quartz escarp]

garner some experience in higher gears before coming back here to argue about game balance

[karmic spade]

lmao says the guy who cant walk

[tulip pine]

@karmic spade you gunna join the call ?

[quartz escarp]

?? you would have been better off not saying anything that is not an argument

[karmic spade]

you are crying about traps being op lmao i cant

[tulip pine]

@karmic spade okay human pylon. keep giving back low IQ repsonses

[karmic spade]

less W key more look down

[spice yarrow]

is a lvl 150 more powerful than a lvl 15?

[tulip pine]

@karmic spade So what ur opnion on druid and rogue rn

[karmic spade]

done w/ the trap noobs glgl

[quartz escarp]

scroll up and you'll see why that will never work or just keep embarrasing yourself

[tulip pine]

@karmic spade I wanna see where the FAS ends and TBI starts

[karmic spade]

hows moms cooking?

[tulip pine]

@karmic spade low iq response #6

[swift grove]

Not inherently. Level 15 and level 150 characters have all the same tools available to them. A level 150 character MAY have an advantage over a level 15 character depending on experience/skill, as well as quest completion.

[tulip pine]

@karmic spade cant think of much eh? capped out at gas station worker.

[karmic spade]

lol nah no time for such a maggot

[tulip pine]

@karmic spade damn, well i hope you have a good shift pumping gas for people today 🙂

[sand zenith]

What’s the argument?

[hardy dirge]

Lol I play slayer fighter get good son

[karmic spade]

ez block, crying about everyone having a tbi and low iq when you cant even w key correctly lolll

[sand zenith]

Are we saying traps aren’t or are op?

[tulip pine]

@karmic spade turns tail and runs. Yikes you have a wishbone where a backbone should be.

[sand zenith]

I’m using that, that’s hilarious…

[tulip pine]

@sand zenith its a good saying and honestly it hits home for alot of people now. if you say it and they dont retort back .. then ya I guess you were pointing out an actual characteristic flaw 😛 @karmic spade

[sand zenith]

No but I’m interested in the discussion now. What was your stance that rangers are op or what?

[hard rock]

Yeah this game is dead bro

[spice yarrow]

do i need to activate smite as cleric?

[tulip pine]

@sand zenith scroll up

[sand zenith]

Yeah this dead game with 40K players.

[hard rock]

Your blocked don't talk to me again

[swift grove]

Hit your smite button when its time to bonk. While smite is active, you deal additional magic damage with melee attacks

[opaque jackal]

why can banshee kill people outside the boss arena with the orb? i was going up the stairs leaving arena and got 1 shot. Probably not intended?

[burnt ruin]

Trading post is wild now, someone is spam-begging in caps lock, saying he is a cancer patient. I would bet this is false. He is (jokingly i guess ?) quoting broken skull item on top of that

begging for items of course

[modern niche]

does banshee take dmg during it's awakening and phase changes? should i keep hit it or not.

[sand zenith]

1 blocked messaged, get rolled snowflake.

[ornate meadow]

i think its one of those, if it does take damage, its free damage, and if it doesn't take damage, what do you lose by stabbing it

[modern niche]

i just want to make sure so that if it doesnt take dmg i can use that time to collect ghost or heal off/rebuff. if it does take dmg it's better to keep at it

[ornate meadow]

ah fair fair, prolly better to grab the ghosties and heal

[flat pewter]

anyone know how unarmed damage works? is it like 0 with a str modifier or does it have a base numbe

[noble jay]

Is steam linking fixed yet?

[swift grove]

Bare hands are 10 base damage. (Source: https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Weapons)

[loud moat]

Hey, so ive played since OG game and no one I mean NO ONE i have ever played with has ever mentioned the fact you cant 1v3 as a reason for quitting. Is this a common desire among people in the community now? That all classes should be able to 1v3 every fight? Everyone I used to play with who quit did so because they got aped by PVP in HR and lost their shit and it was too time consuming to get back, pvp disparity, bad loot in hr, stuff like that etc. Not sure im understanding SDF's blogging about this

[flat pewter]

cheers bossman

[sand zenith]

It’s more about outplay potential and skill expression, they want to crunch loot tables and make the PvP and PvE feel better instead of the game being a stat check, I’m hopeful but nervous.

The game was interesting when gear was scarce.

[loud moat]

How do you give barbarian the same outplay potential and skill expression as druid? or wizard? or fighter even? so that they can both 1v3 as likely. Game def has always felt very sat checky. Also strong disagree, game was best when gear was plentiful and more importantly STRONG. Nerfing gear across the board is pretty bold choice as most people who quit I played with before did NOT like the naked lobbies and wanted to acquire gear.

it just seems like a vision that fits a different game and not thise one at all

[sand zenith]

It’ll give gear more impact but crunch the gear gap, legendaries have more armor but sub stats won’t matter as much so outplay potential will be possible, we’re talking about a vision to entirely re work the combat system, AI, and loot tables.

[loud moat]

ill believe it as the changes come I guess, hope it brings some of the former players back, and I hope it makes the game more fun for everyone

[frosty island]

No

[pure beacon]

is there something wrong with yeti tooths droprate ? been hunting them for hours with a luck kit and it just doesnt seem to drop

[cerulean dove]

i dropped after 20 yetis

[swift grove]

I've killed at LEAST 50 Yeti this season trying to prep for the yeti tooth quest. 0 drops all season. Blythar has forsaken us

[pure beacon]

im serious i killed today alone 30 yetis and yesterday for sure another 20 but it just doesnt drop

[sand zenith]

Hey man, I’m nervous too, but the games been in a bad state constantly and they keep listening to players too much. The game was fun when it first came out. But streamers have poisoned the game. They play for 12 hours a day, and have their viewers complain because they’re frustrated.

[loud moat]

i view that as dev's issue as they are the ones listening to streamers. Infamous example of asking a wizard main streamer their thoughts on class and it getting turbo buffed into OP meta status the next patch, until it was nerfed 3x 3 weeks in a row. I definitely agree the game was MUCH more fun when it first came out, and hope we trend back towards that

[sand zenith]

Right so we let them cook, and worse case scenario they 180 again. Like dude the game recovered from a season of multiclasing…

[loud moat]

idk if id say we ever recovered from multiclassing. steam release brought it back a bit but I still think we are down a lot from that pre multiclassing era

[rapid ravine]

Yeah I always find it absurd when class mains cry for devs to listen to the content creators, like they are objective and unbiased sources without a main lol when they play the game for the sake of creating content without similar objectives as normal players

[dark hinge]

there is no fking way ... i was farming bluestones to buy the felidian race, but the amount of bluestones you can get per season is capped at 5 ???? and the stupid skin is 6?? BUT i can pay real money if i want it now ... wtf ... @glad thunder

[frosty knot]

That's pretty funny ngl

[dark hinge]

when the skin got out i thought to myself : well, at least we can farm them for bluestones, but now i have it "Capped" after reaching 5. What a fking coincidence

[indigo ginkgo]

Seriously, we are in a mine, there is ore to mine...but there are no tools/pickaxes to mine with.
So bad.

[frosty knot]

Break boxes, you'll probably find one

[indigo ginkgo]

I did, went through 1.5 rooms and then the mine, no pick

[frosty knot]

Tough. Good news it's 20g for a pick from woodsman

[undone belfry]

atleast you didnt pay for red shards like I did, then a week later they made it blue

[dark hinge]

oh no, i guarantee you the only money this company will see from my wallet is the 30 euros they made me pay to get full acess to this ... mess. Oh no, they wont get me anymore for sure

[lunar fable]

What are some of the better class options for solos and duos to farm AP at the moment? After the druid nerfs I think I’ve resigned to only playing mine for trios, which sucks since I did most of my quest progression on druid.

I’m thinking either Ranger or maybe warlock?

[sleek lark]

bard/rogue ignore/run from everyone and farm bosses

[indigo ginkgo]

There are cosmetics you can buy, and I do hope they get a lot more in the future. Path of Exile survives on those sales.

[dark hinge]

no thanks, im good with season rewards. i dont think you understood where i was trying to reach with that phrase.

pay 2 win in a game that i've pay'd to play is really not my game model. Things really changed for the worse

[carmine edge]

does opening multiple escape portals per game give xp for all portals opened or is it capped

[swift grove]

I believe you get xp for each portal activated, but can't say with 100% certainty. The way its listed on the wiki, you should receive xp for each portal opened, not just the first (or a limited number). (Source: https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Experience#Sources_of_XP)

[carmine edge]

Thank you so much! the wiki is a little confusing for me aswell.

[candid zodiac]

are chests drops in HR goblin caves?

[patent frost]

anything good come out of the banshee?

[swift grove]

No. (Source: https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Gold_Coin_Chest )

[candid zodiac]

ty

[still cloud]

man did someone get lazy on these quests? kill 6 of each giants then next quest kill 9 of each giant? then theres the 10 spider pots and then another 12or so spider pot quests? did noone notice this? feels boring af and super tedious

[gloomy plover]

I am looking to make a ranger build that is quick and hits hard. any tips?

[nocturne crown]

hey are the srevers down right now?

[lunar sluice]

anyone know how to fix the bug where you cant interact but only kill something?

the bug seems to stay even if you restart the game and pc

[nocturne crown]

it keeps on saying that I "can't connect to game servers"

[spice yarrow]

what are the gear score queue levels 0-25 and 25-125?

[swift grove]

24gs max, 124gs max, and 125+ (Uncapped). No uniques in normals at all

[spice yarrow]

ty ❤️

[real basalt]

REMOVE RANGER TRAPS

[hexed bloom]

If they don't introduce pumpkin merchant soon im abt to crashout in the Gobbo caves istg

[unkempt gate]

Is it just me or does it feel like loot gets better towards the end of the game? I swear the items from chests when there's a minute left is always the most enticing loot.

[grizzled citrus]

WTF is the trick to the spectral nights jump attack. i always used to run and jump towards where he starts his jump but it just isnt working today. seems like nomatter where i move he is landing on me and its pissin me off

[bitter imp]

how to report teamers?

[quartz escarp]

anyone else not understand the existence of shotgun?

[verbal abyss]

what dont you understand?

[swift grove]

#in-game-reports

[main garden]

I don’t understand why I can do double to triple the damage of a 2H weapon in melee combat with a “shotgun” bow

[verbal abyss]

if 1 arrow deals 1 dmg 5 arrows deal 5 dmg

[quartz escarp]

if a slow melee class catches up with a faster ranger that means they clearly outplayed the ranger in a chase and deserve the advantage as they are in melee range.. nope, they just get punished for doing their job by getting oneshot with no warning and the ranger is rewarded for playing like garbage.

[main garden]

Are you stupid or something? The Ranger deserves to win at melee combat with shotgun bow or backstep due to these being extremely high skill

[sly furnace]

SDF keeps talking about making 1v3 possible, but with they way MoveSpeed currently works it will never happen. Movespeed decides fights more often than not.

[verbal abyss]

It's the same thing as smite to me, something you have to see if they have before goign all in, and once you realize they have it, you can bait it out

[quartz escarp]

yeah.. except shotgun has a comparable drawback speed to the survival bow so you're literally not getting away in time if you account for the average human reaction time

[main garden]

What’s funny is you can actually tank a hit while using shotgun bow, baiting them into your kill area

[verbal abyss]

Depends on the situation of course, but i think most of them time you can bait it, same way you bait smite out, walk towards them so they think ur going in and then dip away, it might still hit you but for less

[main garden]

Just a bit of vigor and nobody will 1 shot you, let them get a headshot on you and then blast them with 300 damage lmfao

[quartz escarp]

cleric doesn't have a longbow 👍

[verbal abyss]

No shit

[main garden]

I think we need to develop more skills for Ranger, not enough play style variety

[tender fossil]

Remove Ranger Trap, Give Ranger buff add sling

[hard rock]

Yeah this game is dead and it's dog ass

[verbal abyss]

Ya mama

[quartz escarp]

yeah so if you run away you get pelted with 50 damage arrows

[main garden]

What do you mean it’s great as long as you play Ranger

[verbal abyss]

i dont mean run away run away, i mean bait. step into their shotgun range, they activate shotgun, walk out of range as theyre activating and they will miss or do less

[main garden]

Barely ever lose a game as soon as I swapped to Ranger lmfao

[tender fossil]

All you see is Bow bow bow bow. There is no diversity. Crossbows are neglected and devs refuse to add javelins, slings or war darts. With the addition of the most doo doo perks I’ve ever seen that aren’t even compatible with crossbows unless it’s backstep, true shot and pen shot

[main garden]

You rely too much on the weapon, there is multi shot shotgun and backstep

All are easily strongest abilities in the entire game

[quartz escarp]

backstep exists and so does the average human reaction time which is not instant

[main garden]

Oh my god backstep and shotgun longbow could be devious since you could basically jump inside their hitbox

[verbal abyss]

Look man im not defending ranger shotgun im trying to give advice on how to play against it lol, its annoying and frustrating to die to but its in the game rn and thats how it is lol

[quartz escarp]

every ranger in high gear does this and every single one of them thinks they outplayed them

[main garden]

They did

[pliant valley]

this game has sooo many cry babies. holy jeebus

[main garden]

It was there fault for fighting a ranger, they deserve to lose, Ranger is the ultimate skill ceiling

[quartz escarp]

wonder why (the game is in a horrible state in terms of balancing an almost always has been)

[pliant valley]

then y even play it?

[verbal abyss]

on god

[main garden]

Because sometimes it’s good and the devs actually balance correctly

[quartz escarp]

it's addicting and there's no other game like this

[pliant valley]

LOL

[verbal abyss]

all addictions are bad, this one is less bad so at least theres that

[quartz escarp]

he wants me to play dungeonborne or something

[main garden]

You mean SDF? Lmao!

[pliant valley]

nah

[verbal abyss]

this game is bad with complainers possible worst i've seen first hand, the game is in a decent state right now compared to how its been in the past

[main garden]

Can’t wait for them to shorten TTK that way nobody can survive 1-2 longbow arrows

[quartz escarp]

it's definitely better but it's still bad like idk how im able to bear with this lol

[pliant valley]

there's always, u know, real life shit. Hanging out with friends, fishing, riding bikes, standing on the corner watching all the girls go by

[verbal abyss]

LMFAO

[lost mural]

People care too much about this silly dungeon crawler game

[limber aurora]

what quest do you need to complete to be able to craft spectral coin bag?

[main garden]

Hey man if you aren’t going to waste your life playing this game and complain about it 24/7 then I think you need to leave.

[verbal abyss]

the way this game works also promotes anger, you die and lose a kit you grinded for, for hours of course you're gonna be mad and probably vocal too

[still cloud]

will never play ice caves without quests to do, kobolds are too annoying to agro every room around you and everyone trickle in 1 at a time just so you cant loot.....

[main garden]

I like to scream slurs at the people I chase before murdering them

[verbal abyss]

like i watch youtubers kill someone with BIS all legendarys and grimmies and im like "ouch you know that guy is someone on reddit tweaking out about x playstyle"

[quartz escarp]

yes.. i know because i do things outside of the digital world but it would still be nice if i could spend time in this game and be entertained, which is like, the point of a video game

yes

[verbal abyss]

message deleted 😔 mute incoming

[quartz escarp]

GG!!!

[unkempt lily]

Try going around the spec's path which would be a straight line towards you. Apparently he can do collision mid-air if you're both on the same path and he will stay at your position as a result

And apparently this is a bug

[main garden]

Dammit I got jebaited! I’m going to get muted from this cesspool!

[pliant valley]

that's what I thought games were supposed to be about, but lately, I feel like we're wrong...

synthetic urine works wonders for that

[verbal abyss]

the mods are lurking watch ur tone...

[grizzled citrus]

gotcha, thankyou

[main garden]

What I would give to be a discord mod, hooked up to this chat all day would be exhilarating

[verbal abyss]

[quartz escarp]

yeah. some people will say that it's in early access but like that just feels like an excuse for the devs to make risky changes and not learn from them all the time cause so many games do that and it's sad

[main garden]

@quartz escarp when do you think +all is going to come back?

[quartz escarp]

next patch

[pliant valley]

EA games tend to drag ur money in and change the game from it's starting state to something often completely different by release.

[unkempt lily]

Also try to keep him in your sight while hes mid jump

[quartz escarp]

early access games going full release is a myth

[pliant valley]

nuh uh, 7dtd did it in 12 short yrs

[quartz escarp]

buh

[verbal abyss]

all ironmace does it take take take, take. Take away kris, take away +all, take away evil eye

[pliant valley]

take away ur patience

[verbal abyss]

<@&1019888848773328936> , Can i get a DM real quicky

[empty sun]

you can DM me

[terse sable]

i am officially ready to try and fight warlord, watched a bunch of guides

[pliant valley]

Do the wiggle yea!

[restive meteor]

Yea Bardiche 1 hits you but nerf druid

I was a Barb (Put everything in dex so not the tankiest), complete bs

[verbal abyss]

mustve been a wizard or something

[frail rampart]

Does anyone else get stutter / rubberbanding when pressing Right Click to cast spells? It's so bad and constant

[granite summit]

This game has become longsword simulator

[frail rampart]

If I spam right click casting, the game looks like a strobe light

[cosmic drum]

these dorks cant even program a proper ladder dismount hold the line so they can steal whatever crumbs of a game lol lol lol

[restive meteor]

No way riposte isnt getting nerfed soon

[loud cobalt]

Better than rondel dagger london simulator

[gloomy plover]

in every map, are all trap and ore locations the same?

[restive meteor]

Sometimes they just have a chance to spawn

[gray light]

No it changes within each map too.

Do you guys know if goblin merchant affinity affects the rarity of the random items you get from him?

[gloomy plover]

what...? goblin merchant affects random item rarity?

[verbal abyss]

yes its gambling

[cosmic fossil]

I have the goblin crate break quest as a rouge. but there arent any rouge weapons to let me break crates, help lmao.

[restive meteor]

Dont think so, just cheaper

[tropic scarab]

pickaxe

[cosmic fossil]

thanks cuh

[restive meteor]

Drums also break em

[verbal abyss]

and flute riposte

[gloomy plover]

no shot. drums?

[quartz escarp]

hand crossbow

[cosmic fossil]

already tried

[restive meteor]

Drums is how I did it on my rogue last wipe, shoot it more, handcross will work

[cosmic fossil]

nvm just takes 3 bolts

[verbal abyss]

only 10 years of reloading for 1 box

[restive meteor]

Or just throw a drum 2 times

[zenith flame]

Lute breaks the boxes in 2-4 hits

[verbal abyss]

all instruments break boxes cept harp

[loud cobalt]

The lute guitar works

[zenith flame]

I wish the Lyre could be used offensively. Like being able to use it as a mini bow that fires bolts or something.

[main garden]

fun fact lute is the best chase weapon in the game

[steep pawn]

worst class for bossing?

[smoky tangle]

rogue probably

[cosmic fossil]

um no its wizard

[smoky tangle]

ya wizard too

[tribal zodiac]

Are they going to rework Goblin?:) i feel like market is totally overwhelmed with items and nobody buyin shit.

[silver bramble]

wiz fs

[zealous nova]

100% wiz without a doubt

[nocturne mango]

can someone tell me where the death altar location is?

[pastel pewter]

@tribal zodiac it’s because they are gonna mess with everyone’s gear come next patch. Gotta love mid wipe gear wipes. Why do we even have wipes again?

[swift grove]

https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/Inferno-01-N Top center inferno module on one of the two possible inferno layouts

[blissful bridge]

guys how do I interact with axe traps, they dont even have nothing to be interacted with lol

[tribal zodiac]

aaah, didnt know that 🙂

[swift grove]

Trap disarm kits. You have to hold one and press E to disable the axe trap. Or if you're a rogue, traps and locks perk allows you to disable traps without a kit

[tropic monolith]

does high roller gear come back if i die ?

[swift grove]

so long as another player doesn't extract with/expressman your loot, and you don't die to The Void, yes.

[bold dune]

need an option to change character name not acc

[ocean eagle]

this guy is cooking something.

[placid cipher]

Hands down ranger, I mean every class can kill every boss, warlock and fighter tend to gave top ttk.

[tender fossil]

Depends really I mean I’ve taken down wyvern with ranger

[valid niche]

why is every dungeon full of fucking clerics now

[frosty island]

Turn off all the light in the dungeon IM's!
Ehm wait, what.. Like that's ever gonna happen. Because people needs to be able to see and that's not what lanterns or torches are for! Right.. I assume it's because the ai monsters need to be able to see players!

[vapid arch]

you always have the worst takes possible

[frosty island]

Yes you need a sun inside the cave so you can see something. You don't know how to use a torch or lantern in-game. Because you have never really had to use the tool. Only a few times here and there! Sadly!

[vapid arch]

"yeah this network of caves that's been taken over by goblins and made their home that's also continuously traversed by explorers and adventurers should have no man made lighting whatsoever"

[hallow cobalt]

Games should be longer, not only 15 min

[frosty island]

True and the torches should be turned off. To give the feeling of a more dungeon crawler experience, randomized maps and remove the minimap.

[pine flower]

wheres health shrines in ruins?

[swift grove]

https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/Ruins-5x5-02-N Filter for health shrine

[pine flower]

ty

[vapid arch]

true you should also have to pay taxes and tithes as its a medieval setting, and also grow your own food so you don't starve in the winter
and your character should have a chance to randomly die of dysentry or plague

[frosty island]

It's a game and it needs to be dark in a dungeon crawler game! But u live in a world where there is light sources inside of a "Goblin" cave. Like it's a known fact that goblin needs light or something? They do not even exsist in the real world. Wake up pal.

[vapid arch]

i know you're trolling but i haven't seen anyone elses terrible takes today so im engaging with you instead

[frosty island]

Why you need a dungeon filled up with light? There is too much but somehow you totally disagree and it's a terrible idea to turn off the light. Because you clearly don't have any lantern or torches on you. You never use them really due to this fact that there is too much light in the dungeon. And it only happens rarely that you ever to use them!

[zealous nova]

I suggested a while ago that swarm when it was present, would just be the lights turn off, and nightmare monsters spawn in, still can loot but dangerous

[frosty island]

I never liked the swarm part of the game and i am truely glad they got rid off it.

[zealous nova]

Agreed

[frosty island]

I still don't like the damage we takes tho when we get low on time. I think the penalty should be another nerf so instead of damage taken we should have like a movement speed penalty or armor and magic resist penalty ect.

[astral oak]

That’s stupid lol. If it was a single player dungeon crawler I would agree, but it’s not

[frosty island]

Why is it stupid? Do you not have any light source you can use?

[astral oak]

Doing PVP in complete darkness is aids

[frosty island]

Yes as it should be - "chaotic" "aids" and "hard" to pvp in darkness. That's what lanterns are for and torches. Also if the dungeon was so dark. You could just turn on the light. It's not that hard! The game should be like that! Not like the current state we have now! It's so bad. Because you rarely have to ever use the tools which are meant to give light in the dark. The game is even called "Dark & Darker"

[hallow cobalt]

games are just too short, it is not dungeon crawler but dungeon runner

[frosty island]

True - if there was no light and no minimap you had to use a torch or lantern just to find the door but somehow it's a very bad idea 🙂 Also gameplay would probally be alot slower than what it it. And if they also added maybe a -10 ms pen to hold the torch maybe people could not just rush and open the door without taken a hit from a mob. (Im just sayin) that maybe they had to actually clear the mob before opening a door.

[zealous nova]

my biggest gripe latley is map rot

[frosty island]

Turn off most of the light in the dungeon IM's
There is a reason why we have latern's and torches but they are rarely ever used because of the fact that the entire dungeon is filled up with a light source and it don't make sense or give the vibe of a dungeon crawler experience! In games like Dark and Darker, where players explore dungeons, a darker environment can amplify the sense of fear, uncertainty, and surprise, especially also because there are PvP.
And yes it should be - "chaotic" "aids" and "hard" to do pvp in darkness. That's what lanterns also are for and torches. Also if the dungeon was dark and darker. You could just turn on the light. It's not that hard or biggie! The game should be like that! Not like the current state we have now! It's so bad. Because you rarely ever have to use the tools which are meant to give light in the dark. Also the game is even called "Dark & Darker" So make it god damn dark & darker please!

[cosmic fossil]

ever been to forgoten castle?

[astral oak]

We use torches so much wdym

[frosty island]

Is the forgotten castle not bright enough for you? I think they should make a day time forgotten castle but with torches on aswell so you can see extra well

[whole raven]

guys, I just started a match, pressed something now my whole UI and settings on ESC are gone

[frosty island]

Feels bad man i hope i not press this key

[flat quarry]

You just can't take it, it wont let u

[slim crypt]

is there a way to see kd?

[frosty island]

Yes stats - Player stats i think it called in lobby

[slim crypt]

👍

[flat quarry]

Afaik yes

[whole raven]

I cant even see the spell im choosing, the mini map... HELP

[frosty island]

Why you respond to your own message 😄🤣

[whole raven]

BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO LOSE MY WHOLE GEAR CAUSE THIS GAME IS BROKEN, ANY FIXES?

[frosty island]

We don't know otherwise i would tell you if i knew ❤️

[flat quarry]

Shift + back-slash

[whole raven]

there goes my hero

why would that command be so easy to press and no prompt whatsoever? jesus christ

[flat quarry]

Np, next time just google it or smth lol

[frosty island]

Praised be now don't lose your stuff and send leo 26k

I demand justice as a pve player and suggest a empty room but with a "secret" so when you pool the leveler the floor will vanish and there would be endless lava just to trap all those suspected players who might be marked as "pvp" players 😂

[opaque jackal]

nice killed frost wyvern and died because i jumped before being in the flying ring... flew up like 70% slower than a full plate fighter, mind you i had no gear on at that point.. bummed out

[frosty island]

Now you learned

[frail rampart]

is there a way to make the banshee spirits actually reachable? they are 10 miles in the sky

[onyx cloak]

\

[frosty island]

Play druid and use chiken

[frail rampart]

@frosty island id rather have my dignity

[onyx cloak]

anyone here big into dungeonborne? dm me if u are i got a proposal

[frosty island]

Understandable

[opaque jackal]

typical response from this community bruh

[frosty island]

What i meant was just that now you learned and wont be doing it again at least only by mistake.

[opaque jackal]

mb english not first language

[frosty island]

Np <'3

[slate stump]

paying gold for you to join a discord server i need invites to get tester dm me if interested or just ping me, im in trio party 134

[zenith flame]

Just tried HR, No thanks. I'm sick of Warlocks.

[wanton crown]

just play cleric then

[frosty island]

Clearical caster counter warlock ski?

[wanton crown]

Perserverance plus protection from evil

[frosty island]

😎

[zenith flame]

In HR those perks do so flipping little

[wanton crown]

well in HR ur pretty much cooked against anyone who has an insane gear score diff on you '

[frosty island]

Yeah i tried being 200 and meet someone on 550 not funny..

[zenith flame]

Yeah. I'm just staying away from HR. It is not worth playing for me.

[frosty island]

You can do HR. Just stay away from being over 124 gear score.

[vagrant flame]

Do bosses health scale up in trios versus solos?

[wanton crown]

you need to have at least 225 tho?

[earnest silo]

No

[frosty island]

Oh well then he can't xD my bad.. Then he should just stay away from being over 124 gs

[wanton crown]

i need somoene to help me clear all inferno bosses for amror quest

[vagrant flame]

Really? I want to try bossing but don't want to wait and wait to get back to solos. Need practice and I'm already bad enough. I figured it would...

[frosty island]

Sry just started again pretty much

[tidal plover]

Hm

[slate stump]

yea u just join it and forget about it i need 2 more invites to get tester

[tidal plover]

How much gold I’m getting

[slate stump]

500 sound good? it isnt much but you arent doing much for it

[trail flicker]

can warlock phantomize through thorn barrier

[tribal shell]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9ACaZ7FBb0

I recorded a video, can someone who is familiar with the spectral knight please review it and let me know why I can't dodge those horizontal high slashes?

[swift grove]

No. But you can crouch jump over it unless its placed in a low passage like a portcullis, or if there are 2 placed together parallel.

[cerulean trout]

u luck down to slow

[sacred juniper]

Why the fuck can a full plate fighter chase me down as a rogue.....

[tribal shell]

Are you sure??? I feel like I'm not that slow :x

[astral oak]

You’re trolling

[cerulean trout]

his attack start from ur right, and u are circlyng on his right, u can do the same crouch luck down speed but without going to his right

[shell thorn]

bro this lag on the server just killed me

i had my 5k gold set which was like 50% of my gold and just died without even seeing who killed me, so fucking bs.

[smoky tangle]

its 125+ correct for gear score for normals

[swift grove]

Yes. 0-24, 25-124, and 125+ are the normals brackets

[astral oak]

25, >125, 125+

[smoky tangle]

i must have just been at like 126 or something then lol

[crisp fjord]

if yall dont start banning teamers i swear

its none stop

[bright iron]

I believe the middle platform is slightly raised so I generally try not to be on that part during the fight. I think the boss' own height is not affected by that platform? You can also try creating a bit more distance from the boss during that attack (like a full-body length). Your timing is fine.

[tribal shell]

I do notice that when I'm too close to him it seems to hit me more often. But even at length I've been hit. I heard about the middle platform thing recently so now I"m trying to avoid it too. Something still feels off about that swing, can't get it consistent.

[quartz nebula]

are there any channels or resources (either in this discord or another server) that talk about class builds, gearing and their performance?

[bright iron]

FWIW, I prefer looking up when I dodge that specific attack. But then also, I first learned/solo'd the boss on my longsword fighter so that habit has transferred on my other characters too.

[tribal shell]

I will try looking up. I just tried one fight and I never got hit doing that. Hm. lol -- Thanks!

[brave storm]

the longsword parry just makes this game un enjoyable

[zenith flame]

^

[umbral path]

Did they change what the primitive bracelets drop from? ive killed 6 whole modules of kobolds and havent gotten a single one, at this rate getting 12 will take days straight

[zenith flame]

I swear whenever you have a quest to collect items, the game reads that and purposely lowers the drop rate. I've killed scores of Dire Wolves and still haven't found any pelts

[blissful bridge]

how do I interact with axe traps as the mission says

[clear marten]

Trap disarming kit

[blissful bridge]

but where exactly, I dont see anything I can interact with

[swift grove]

while holding the trap disarm kit, you can press E on the axe trap as it swings by, disabling it after a short interaction

percentage based HP changes apply before flat bonuses usually. this is also why +max hp rolls are given to rat form in full. they apply AFTER the 95% reduction in HP total

[solar sage]

Whats MS cap again?

[swift grove]

330

[solar sage]

thank you big man

[final river]

Do items you take out with expressman count toward ap?

[swift grove]

No

[obsidian beacon]

Give pickpocket an animation cancel

[solar sage]

Dude I just love HR,rush spawn,if nobody there,just insta extract since no AP

[lavish shell]

so is there really no way to get any blue shards past triumph level 5? am i just stuck at "max"?

[swift grove]

Correct. There is a 5 bluestone per season limit imposed now. We'll be able to earn more bluestone after the next wipe.

[wanton finch]

o/

[whole raven]

Rogue with dagger vs short sword, what yall think?

[clear blade]

Besides dodging. How do you block Kobold Archers' arrows with a buckler?

[swift grove]

Look higher than you think you should have to. They always aim for your face. The blocking surface (buckler) needs to be between the arrow and your head.

[clear blade]

hmm imma try. thanks. I hate and love how they just corner you; leaving no room to dodge at times.

[cosmic drum]

what is the auto bot thing blocking any specific comments on the state of the game like are the developers that kind of sensitive how utterly pathetic

[empty sun]

certain phrases are blocked to keep things civil between users and others in the server, be sure to read over the server rules and follow them and your comments should get through

[versed spoke]

anyone else lose anything when u put it in express man

nvm it just being slow i was 5 min in lobby and nothing but it there

[wanton finch]

Recommended weapons for Bard?

[indigo ginkgo]

You can mitigate damage through accurate face punching.

[indigo ginkgo]

Howdy New GuY!
Go to channels and roles at the top of Discord channels, and select all classes.
Go to your needed class for specific questions.
https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1096549548492599326

[wanton finch]

ty c:

[tidal lynx]

how are you suppose to play rogue jesus. this guy is so weak if you cant sneak attack

[limber badge]

Cower in fear, hide with invisibility, wonder why druid can do what you can without penalties and why fighter uses daggers better

[tidal lynx]

jesus bro idk if its becausee this is a level 1 rogue but i do no damage

[wintry pumice]

nerf warlock

[maiden turret]

shift clicking isnt moving coins into bags for me, is this a known issue?

[limber badge]

Starting rogue is beyond a shadow of a doubt the worst class in the game and then rogue is just the worst class in the game in general.
You can make it work, and bossing it's not too bad, but it's the worst class by a considerable margin in basically every metric.
I pray for you. And I pray for anyone else getting this game and going rogue having no idea how utterly terrible the class is.

[wanton finch]

Does it say the coins are "Looted" or "Handled"? Bc something like this was confusing me yesterday and the reason was that the looted coins won't go in "Handled" bags

[maiden turret]

ahh, this may be it then. it was looted coins. never had this issue until recently though

[wanton finch]

Ya, it got me good lmao

[digital meteor]

[barren ingot]

no perk rogue aint it

[signal osprey]

so what exactly is teaming

[wintry pumice]

any friendly interaction in HR

[signal osprey]

am i now being forced to abandon strategy for KOS incase my actions can be observed as teaming by another player??

[muted breach]

yeah and apparently third partying fights is teaming aswell

[rigid pivot]

If you look at another player in HR is it teaming? I mean youre looking at an enemy and theyre not dead, must be teaming.

[signal osprey]

if i emote is that considered a friendly interation therfore teaming

[quartz escarp]

if you're in hide as a rogue and someone walks by and you don't kill them you get banned

[wanton finch]

What if you kill the other person right after?

[rigid pivot]

Doesnt matter youd be teaming for that space of time where the other person is alive. instaban

[muted breach]

well yeah i guess you better kill the other person but thats not the only case what if 1 of them runs away and you cant kill them all

[signal osprey]

what if im a pacifist and someone keeps getting close is that teaming

[wanton finch]

ohhh

[signal osprey]

maybe like idk finally drop normals and have HR and a ranked mode maybe

[muted breach]

ironmace is the worst dev team known to man with this bullshit play thousands of hours on so many games never been banned for anything in my lifes i been temp banned 3 times in this game its a fuckin joke

[limber badge]

Stop breaking the rules bub!

[viral wraith]

You are the first person I’ve seen complain about being banned. Did they give you a reason/proof?

[signal osprey]

do they not remember last time that not fully defining teaming creates issues

[muted breach]

alot of people were complaing first couple of hours of patch for the same thing third partying fights and gettin temp banned 2 3 games later for teaming

[limber badge]

They often forget things they've done already.

[signal osprey]

as well as remember what game they have and the sort or natural dynamic that it spawns and everytime they try to forcefully change the natural dynamic it feels terrible

[quartz escarp]

ban everyone in hr buff druid and nerf rogue game is saved.

[viral wraith]

Did they notify you of the ban reason with proof? Or was it just a (you went to log on and couldn’t play, with no message explaining why)

[rigid pivot]

If you load into HR is it teaming? I mean you load into a match, with other ENEMY players alive.

[muted breach]

my game crashed abnormally loaded back up temp banned 14 days for teaming 2 games into patch

[limber badge]

This is the change we need

[viral wraith]

Can you send me a screenshot of the ban prompt? Have you tried opening a ticket to get some kind of clarification?

[muted breach]

i already appealed took them 4 5 days to reply by email and it was the most bot response ive ever seen in my life like made no sense at all

[viral wraith]

Interesting. Sorry that happened. The rule itself seems stupid to begin with. What’s the point of having emotes and voip with such tight rules on communicating

[muted breach]

yeah look at the screenshot i sent u in dms they say no friendly at all i was never friendly i third partied a fight and then they saying im pre teaming like these guys are smoking crack

[barren ingot]

yes

[viral wraith]

Their wording is implying that you had multiple matches with the same person/teamed up with them. (Which with the low player base in high roller) it’s hard to not run into the same people.

[limber badge]

It's a slippery slope they already introduced once and it lead to mayhem. We are here again.

[viral wraith]

It seems that for the time being high roller might be off the table until they make some changes. Unfortunate, but at least u didn’t get perma banned

[barren ingot]

its ok they need to test it another 4 times to really make sure

[limber badge]

[muted breach]

bro wish i did get perm banned actual scum dev team

[wooden lichen]

everyone please be careful of the ranger 'OfficerThiccy', crimson name player that ddos/lagswitches when he's losing fights
I literally could not change weapons or do any other action other than a slow walk for like half the raid until he fully healed then caught up to me and killed me for free

[viral wraith]

The only complaint I’ve had with the devs is the problem of things getting loss in translation. SDF wasn’t clear at all in his plan for the future in the patch notes. And his most recent announcement was a even harder read. I just wish they had people to better interpret their road map for English speaking players

[ivory minnow]

The rapier, a stabbing weapon has 3 slashes out of its 4 attack combo 🤔🤔

[muted breach]

this dev team is smokin crack i quit the game mid wipe when they had frost potions for demingod rewards they changed all the gear no movespeed on rings the all attributes got changed like 80 percent of my stash got rerolled into dog shit every since then i get temp banned for the most dog shit reason they dont explain what ive done when i ask and they saying they gona remove attys from gear and secondaries rolls to gear they barely nerfed druids toxic af playerbase aswell

[near walrus]

gg

[ocean gale]

Crafted gear doesn't get lost in arena correct?

[frozen umbra]

nerf plate armor through MS or decreasing the overall PDR gain from common -> legendary

[minor prairie]

as long as its crafted by the character you are playing arena with you wont lose it unless you disconnect or leave early

[ocean gale]

Dope ty

[lavish shell]

killed 3 unique mobs so far, zero drops, loving wipe so far

[umbral path]

Why isn't the skeleton merchant back yet lmao it's halfway to halloween and everyone already has insane gear, the damn coffers are there still too

[tidal plover]

I’ve only seen one unique mob

[toxic gulch]

need help with cyclops quests

[potent compass]

Can anyone tell me why this is getting auto deleted from lfg?
<discord link> lf1m need help killing any inferno bosses in <25, 216 fame but I cannot beat them for the life of me.
This is what I'm posting that's getting deleted

[nova escarp]

Hello Kings

I have introduced a friend w/ borderline Tritanopic sight, i.e. very, VERY colorblind, to the game. Identifying items of different rarities is really difficult b/c he can't see most colors. Adding some sort of non-color visual indicator next to text names when hovering over dropped items, like an extra capital letter denoting item rarity, would be awesome for colorblind players.

Something like P > C > U > R > E > L > UQ(? help me out here for unique) would be very helpful

[minor prairie]

i feel like because the spawn chances are already low there should be no extra RNG on the mob itself dropping the item

thats like tryna find a specific taco truck but it opens on a different lot every day with no set schedule

[royal flax]

how to craft forstlight items?

[tidal lynx]

best way to level up new characters/class?

[wooden lichen]

game needs to be renamed to Cheat & Cheater

[tidal plover]

Go reds in ruins and kill skel champs/demons or just grind quests

[stone hull]

Is 124- gearscore athing?

[swift grove]

yes

[spark talon]

anyone tryna buy my soverign ghostblade

[silver bramble]

nah

[regal light]

why do people make you out to be the bad guy if you want to fight in a PVP game? Genuinely curious, I don't understand

[wooden lichen]

PLEASE FIX THE SPAWN IN GOBLIN CAVES WHERE YOU GET INSTANTLY HEADSHOT BY A GOBLIN ARCHER

[tender fossil]

Druid is too weak, give it ranger traps.

[tulip pine]

remove ranger traps

[wooden lichen]

just look down -> 🫃

[hazy burrow]

Do you get your stuff back if you die to time

[swift grove]

yes. the only ways you don't get your stuff back is if someone else extracts it (personally or expressman) or you die to void

[spice anchor]

And idea what could be the next class?

[main raven]

I mean, its Sorcerer, we know this already

[spice anchor]

Oh didn't know mb what will change with the wizard?

[granite swallow]

I which religions had a roleplay inpact. Like get to know if the other person is a muderhobo or not for example

[main raven]

I mean, the Wizard's probably gonna catch nerf #200 like they always do lmao

I think the idea behind Sorc is that the cast with their hands, and they'll be able to cast different spells depending on which hand you're casting with (or both hands)

[wraith hawk]

Where do I report a cheater?
There is a barbarian with extended arms on the Asia server.

[spice anchor]

Oh so something like blade and sorcery spells

[main raven]

Maybe? Unsure how that system works

[subtle cedar]

I see 124 in lfg a lot what does it mean?

[spice anchor]

Spell with 1 hand are faster to cast and do less damage 2 hands slower but pack a punch

[swift grove]

124 refers to a gear score bracket for matchmaking in normals. There is 0-24, 25-124, and 125+

[subtle cedar]

so 124 means I can't bring a gear score over 125, right?

[swift grove]

it means your gear score has to fall between 25 and 124. no higher than 124, no lower than 25

[subtle cedar]

also ty

[main raven]

If you do you just join the 125+ lobbies instead

[hazy burrow]

Thank God, just had a druid grief me at a gate and I had a pretty expensive kit lol

[granite swallow]

void is void

https://tenor.com/view/feed-the-void-black-cat-snack-hungry-cat-hungry-gif-306965068353833327

[ember pilot]

can anyone help me kill lich, ghost king or skeleton ward please?

[golden yacht]

anyone tried playing dark and darker on steam deck or a ROG Ally?

[ember pilot]

@golden yacht z1 or normal? ally

[golden yacht]

either one, im just wondering if its supported and works well

[wraith drift]

Anyone know what the TK time limit is? I’m on 1100 seconds rn (18 mins)

[ember pilot]

@golden yacht i take mine to work and play on it daily no issues, you need a deck with a fan so it can play on turbo mode for best performence and run properly though

[golden yacht]

if you didnt have the deck is it still playable or not worth without it

[ember pilot]

sometimes it crashes without it, @golden yacht decks like $30

[golden yacht]

sick appreciate it brotha

[sly furnace]

Alright I was on the fence about it, but Druid can't stay the way it is. Flying chicken-bear is insane.

[trail flicker]

I thought this was an old post. But they already nerfed its melee in panther and bear form so hard that chicky hop is the only stand out amazing thing it has after mending grove

[arctic oxide]

oh you mean they stripped 30 damage from the bears right click one tap? yeah no one should have a one shot ability and be tankier than a barb

[flint charm]

So i have been crafting a bunch of grimsmiles as soon as i have gold to save space and maybe get some value. Would someone have the time to look at them and tell me which ones are good and bad?

[hoary willow]

Ok, class idea: The Engineer! This scrappy lil psycho uses black powder weapons like muskets and pistols, as well as explosives, at a cost of health and needing to carry most of his tools in his inventory, as well as these black powder weapons having 2 components as ammo

The musket will function as a single shot, extremely high damage weapon with a long reload time kind of like the windlass. Where as the pistol functions as a quicker reload anti-armor hand crossbow with higher damage, etc. His main appeal are traps, like landmines and all of his abilities are grenades of certain kinds, from a powerful explosive grenade to a acid bottle. His perks would work to boost his effectiveness with the weapons, increase loading speed, and even combine the ammo components into a singular item to help with inventory space. I don't have much more than this, so if anyone has any good ideas for it go ahead and DM me, I know most of you want to shoot a longsword user while yelling PARRY THIS YA FILTHY CASUAL, so here's to some potential explosions

[soft crest]

Grimsmiles are good on all classes but better on phys dealing classes.
You want anything with agility , additional phys damage or the best, true phys damage.
If you wonder how much your rings are worth, you can compare them to other rings with similar stats on the market. Just filter the stats

[flint charm]

Thank you sir!

[pure prawn]

Hey maybe they'll add a "Warforge" like race which is repaired instead of healed and the engineer class would combo with it.

I would only be ok with guns if the had a Quick time event associated with reloading

[hoary willow]

Ngl I was expecting to get roasted halfway to hell, but I like the idea of a Warforge race

Could even make the Engineer class a expansion with a dungeon similar to a Dwemer ruin and stuff since they are experimenting with living armor

[bitter marlin]

I feel like the pdr fighter build is way to strong currently

[trail flicker]

Okay great

[trail flicker]

This response of yours makes no sense, does not logically follow the converation whatsoever. Did you forget what you typed to begin with? Huge wtf. I didnt know internet defensiveness got this sensitive

[dull tulip]

@glad thunder
The Lost and Found system is a game-changer for handling cheaters, restoring fairness by returning loot to players who were wronged. It builds trust and loyalty in your community, giving players confidence that their efforts matter and that reporting cheaters leads to real action. The added satisfaction of receiving their lost items back, alongside the "Justice Served" notification, creates an engaging and rewarding experience. This system incentivizes reporting, helps clean up the game environment, and gives cheaters no power, ultimately making your game stand out as one that truly protects its players and promotes fair play. please consider adding such a system.

[bitter marlin]

I dont think thats great tbh😂 I havent lost my pdr fighter kit in days, the only difficult part is fighting other pdr fighter or really good rangers

[gloomy escarp]

stop playing cringe stuff 🙄

[indigo stream]

Suggestion= wolf form

Similar stats to panther but the speed buff is weaker and for close party members also.

Left click bleeding bite which scales from agi and applys a bleed for 3 seconds

Rightclick cripling bite dmg scales from agi (slows the enemy by x%)

Skill " track" = on cast gains a visible "line of scent" for x seconds that quides you towards enemy that has bleed or slow effect on.(this scales with buff duration)

[ember pilot]

im trying to find someone but all i have his their charcter name... but it doesnt show up any other way? "DrugGuy"

[soft crest]

I guess the only thing u can do is whisper him

[ember pilot]

@soft crest i already left the game, is it possible still or no :/

[slate kettle]

Cave Troll farmers; How do you handle the one hand charge attack? I keep trying to crouch and looking down but get one shot everytime.

[strong blaze]

didnt play the game for a year, is the game still going dead and deader or wat?

[trail flicker]

YT videos. But you can make sure that one doesnt trigger at all. However, you can tell if its high or low by looking at it. Dragging club on ground = low, other one is high

[soft crest]

Just remember his name and whisper him when u can ?

[slate kettle]

I havent seen a video yet that explains how not to trigger the charge attack. Guess I got to check out more. Thanks!

[topaz cargo]

ive seen lich 2 times in the past 2 weeks

[gloomy escarp]

do u do 1 game per day?

[topaz cargo]

i do like 3 hours of crypts, get ghost king and warlord for the entire 3 hours and i give up

i have a quest to kill all inferno bosses but im sure its just super unlucky rng lmao

[gloomy escarp]

rough, ya its kinda cringe w/ basically a 20 min wait to get a 33% chance to see the boss u want lmao

[ember pilot]

@soft crest his name was litterly "DrugGuy" and went i search it says player not found

[topaz cargo]

fr dude i set timers when to tab back into the game for the next level, super boring lmao

[gloomy escarp]

this raid is lich for sure

[soft crest]

Cause you can only search for his account name for some reason.
Whisper him ingame /w Drugguy Yo

[ember pilot]

can anyone help me kill lich, ghost king or skeleton ward please?

[cinder prairie]

What the fuck is wrong with people

Now we're scaming people with traps at exits. What the fuck is wrong with people. Can't people just fucking play normally?

[gloomy escarp]

just look down

[cinder prairie]

What is so wrong with people. Everyone in this game is such a beta

[gloomy escarp]

blame sdf for having traps in the game

[cinder prairie]

I won't. I'm gonna blame people for shamelessly ruining gaming experiences cause people are fiending for looting

scratching skin intensely
Gotta get the loot. Loot means I'm good. I have gold cause I'm good.

[gloomy escarp]

oh im doing it so sdf deletes traps

[cinder prairie]

All while playing the boringest scummiest bullshit ever

[gloomy escarp]

ya its cringe

[cinder prairie]

I just keep believing. "Okay they nerfed that lame ass playstyle. Now the game will be more fun. Then the community just finds the next scam to use on people instead of just learning to kite. Ambush rogue. Naked run away warlocks that mob dump with phantomize, spamming curses. Now this shit? People are serious hurt to be doing this shit

[trail flicker]

I'm sure this happens extremely rarery. For instance, it has never happened to me or anyone I know (0 people in total), but I think its also because i make sure no one else has done it before I start to put mine down so that might give me a diff viewpoint. Anyways you can jump over them AND do a 360 just to taunt them so i think its fine

[gloomy escarp]

ive been doing it every single game of ruins ive played for the past like 6 days

[trail flicker]

These comments are more beta than anything a man can do in his life though. So it's super odd. Also, no one is going to do the trap thing every single game. It's a flavor of the few days type of thing. No one will do those strats for 100 hours of gameplay straight, you know? It's not even possible really. But yeah phantomize counter with spells (etheral takes extra damage just like in all video games!), you can use trap disarming kits, although its insane they are 10x more expensive than the trap lol! And then you can jump like i said. As for druids they need one more damage spell to work as intended, and lastly....i forgot what we were talkign about im sleepy

[trail flicker]

No, you haven't. I'm 100% believing that's a lie because it would be too insane/impossible. Also why did you play 6 days in a row wtf? If that part is true then I guess anything is possible lol

Honestly, do the two of you wanna do this strat in trios for the next 6 days, honest question no torll

[gloomy escarp]

trios? you're diabolical. i only do it in solos

[cinder prairie]

I was gonna reply but then you said that second block of crap and realize you're just being combative. People are already making videos about it. I've already seen reddit posts talking about all the success with it. I'm not gonna entertain someone rejecting reality. "It hasn't happened to me so it isn't real" is absurd to reason with.

[gloomy escarp]

its so effective its disgusting, everyone keeps taking the bridge entrance to crypts and i keep killing em

[cinder prairie]

Shit like this just makes me not wanna play and right when I finally am like "no I'm done" they finally nerf it and it's like "thank God okay" then the next stupid thing gets crafted.

[gloomy escarp]

once traps and druid are gone the game will be peachy dw

[pure prawn]

Traps should be triggered and disappear from any kind of throwables

[umbral zenith]

Druid will never be gone, it will always be OP at high GS

[gloomy escarp]

im going to manifest druid getting deleted

[umbral zenith]

I do have 1 issue, the wizards flavour text says "the ultimate sorcerer" but what does that mean the ACTUAL SORCERER will be when it's released? Xd

The ultimate wizard probably

[gloomy escarp]

you already figured it out :3

[trail flicker]

The idea that druids are a problem at all is completely insane. I would like to give them 1-2 more damage spells of some kind to make them on par with clerics. , Since judgement and HS and quake are super fun to use.

[gloomy escarp]

everyone knows rogue is the most overpowered class

[trail flicker]

They dia perfect job making them slightly stronger at 124 though. But nerfing the damage, making it 5x easier to block, attack slower, it was overkill. Bear isnt even worth using at this point since shield/long sword make you auto lose/get your team behind from the free shots you were already taking but without dealing damage to the opponent

Rogue jumping out of hide and instant killing things is just as toxic as all of these other complaints, no? Same situation as traps but even worse maybe?

[gloomy escarp]

theyll adjust druid so its in a good spot, also rogue sucks

[soft crest]

Traps are good at every bracket. Landmine rogues don’t work below 250 gs

[gloomy escarp]

preach

[soft crest]

I rather druids have more damage and less mobility , the mobility is what messes me up. Especially the jumping 20 foot wall in ruins with their chicken and panther leap. How am I supposed to kill you ? Unless you wanna die

[gloomy escarp]

based

[runic forum]

Yo does anyone else have a problem where they only lag on GC? The other two maps, including deeper layers are fine, but GC ping spikes

[digital phoenix]

im getting scared about the next hotfix :c

[soft crest]

Good you should

[gentle quail]

any1 know how much fulgores go for?

[glossy leaf]

what's the fastest way to level up a class? i usually just play ice caverns and pve only but i bet there's a faster way

oh yeah i got extra quest items and shit thanks for the reminder

[chrome haven]

God I hate the quests, killing every wolf on ruins to not get a single pelt is the WORST

[fringe badger]

Let us break items down and work towards upgrading squire gear pieces

[jade wing]

Anybody know if there is any quest rewards for this season yet, skin or emote?

[keen patrol]

there's more on ice caves

[chrome haven]

there's fewer wolves total in ice caves 20x dire wolfe on Ruins 16x frost wolves on ice caves

[keen patrol]

true but the 16 on ice caves are condensed in 2 modules that are close by each other

[limber jolt]

why is it a shitty game and not serious? There are many reasons, for example being able to undress instantly while running is ridiculous. A cleric took away almost all my life with a judgment and then a hit of the torch was enough for him to kill me, we're talking about a noob who lost during the whole fight.

[chrome haven]

Ruins is easier to traverse imo you can get through ruins far more quickly making it a more effective farm even if someone else beats you to one of the two main modules for wolves

[frail viper]

is there anyone quite experienced with dark and darker that i could dm a couple of questions? just to avoid the slowmode

[steep pawn]

Pitch black crypts would be epic

[formal yoke]

Go for it

[umbral blaze]

You and me must be playing different games if you think rogues can instant kill anything

[jovial latch]

bro whats this shitty game. why does druid oneshot any player as a bear thats redicilous

[idle grotto]

is there any recommendation on what stat to focus on as a slayer fighter on sub 124 lobbies

[jovial latch]

dex and agility i guess

[idle grotto]

and what gear?

[jovial latch]

i would say shortsword and light gear for movement speed. and the light gear could have dex as base attributes

[idle grotto]

o

[jovial latch]

and use adrenaline rush not second wind

[idle grotto]

is there any glove in this game that isnt plate but give agi

[jovial latch]

check in search filter

[terse sable]

Dont think so actually. But u can roll agi as random modifier on most

[jovial latch]

but one question guys how can i avoid gettin oneshot by bears wtf

[idle grotto]

yea but like for the base stat itself

[idle grotto]

i dont think u can lol i heard its 50 str or smth

[nimble bobcat]

Tank barb with pdr and use savage Roar and war cry

[opaque jackal]

gravewolf gloves have 3 agi 3 will

[opaque jackal]

shields work pretty alright

[frail viper]

where are the giant dragonflies in ruins?

[tribal zodiac]

Bottom right corner is 1 and then in 2nd floor in one big zombie room(dont remember name)

[tribal zodiac]

https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/Crypt-01-N Use this 🙂 mark there mobs you looking for etc

[runic fractal]

Why the fuck i have to play aganist 500 fame fighter with level 200 that can equip his longsword in 0.1s and insta block after swapping from fucking bow

[broken cove]

0 matchmaking system

[gritty iron]

SkIlL IssUE

[runic fractal]

Fact that almost every game i have 1-2 players on fame 20 and then 5-6 on 100+ while being 40 lvl with 50h in game is ridiculous

[warm crane]

They will change things like this soon i hope

When i kill someone that is too noob i feel bad, definitely not fair that im getting matched with them

[runic fractal]

Matchmaking should be around something more than just what you bought from trade and taken with u

[obsidian beacon]

They should add in solo arenas

[upper stone]

When I see a timmy I usually scare them a bit and then leave

[fossil yarrow]

Not having the chance to be friendly in HR makes me sad. 😞 I can’t even charisma check

[lavish ivy]

Yea a Battle Royal mode would be interesting

[runic fractal]

I mean i can kill400 fame player. But that happens in 1 out of 10 fight when he finnaly didnt block or partied all my attacks

[placid tide]

GUYS I LISTED EPIC PADDED TUNIC WITH ACTION SPEED 1.2% MAX HEALTH 6 AND PHYS POWER 2 FOR 1100 THE PERFECT ONE

[deft lintel]

Dude, I see you all the time writing about your market items.

Appreciate the enthusiasm, but just wait for it to sell instead, you actions here won’t influence anything in game.

Go here to sell items:
https ://discord. gg/WZranHaq

[rose vortex]

does anyone else have to drag their gold into ur gold pouch bc shift clicking it wont work

[velvet ferry]

yes

[obsidian beacon]

When warlock double curses you then pop phantomize to regen all the health back they lost from you hitting them

[desert orchid]

Thank you to all the people selling cheap hunting traps, im printing 2k kits for 50g utility items 🙏

[idle grotto]

honestly hunting trap and ranger is like a shotgun rat from other games

[desert orchid]

its MAG-7 from cs. Eco and 1 taps ppl

all though u would need a blue trap to kill a bissed out pdr fighter probably

or just spam a lot of the cheap ones since they are almost free

[spring marsh]

imagine warlocks having 1 charge of phantomize and then they have to recharge it at a campfire how normal that would be

[obsidian beacon]

Unnachievable, mankind will never progress that far. This is truly a Utopian dream

[limber jolt]

play warlock first then talk

[spring marsh]

ive played warlock. its not even fun. just phantomize and run away every 20s

[tall sandal]

i need help please.i could have swore ,if i hold shift and right click , the gold would transfer back into the bag, but it doesnt , it just puts the gold in my werehouse next to the bag

[rustic pecan]

defualt keybinds were changed some time ago i think

[spring marsh]

ive noticed that too this update

[swift grove]

looted gold doesnt auto-fill handled bags. only handled gold does

[whole forge]

if you fall into the ice abyss do you get your items back from teh goblin or nah

[night folio]

This is definitely a change. Didn't use to work like this.

[swift grove]

yes. they changed it I guess because of the quest to turn in 50 looted gold. people were auto stashing all of their looted gold accidentally unless you were careful about how/where you place it in your stash.

[spring marsh]

ah yes its really hard to find 50 looted gold

[blissful bridge]

guys where is the double stone door

[spring marsh]

which map? its usually a boss loot room

[stark summit]

Can anyone help me figure out what to use for my bard arena kit? Right now I’m running
-demons glee
-frost light lantern shield

• ruby silver leather cap
• crossbow and surv bow swap
• ruby silver doublet
• brave hunter pants
• frost light riveted gloves
• ruby silver adventurer boots
• 2 grimsmiles
• frost amulet

[chilly glacier]

Give all that to me you don't want it

[stark summit]

True I’m just gonna run a squire kit

[paper forum]

For golden chests in Ruins, I just have to go to 2nd floor and check the "Random large chest" spawns?

[echo sparrow]

yea

gold chests spawn on ruins tho

[stark summit]

The first floor also has them

[paper forum]

Oh yeah I missed it ty

[blissful bridge]

forgotten castle

[muted breach]

cant wait until they remove rolls from gear the whole game is going to die XDDDDD

[blissful bridge]

so I guess I need to kill the boss 3 times? but wait, aren't those "cursed ones" and might be different?

[spring marsh]

banshee lootroom, spectral knight lootroom and one room in inferno which i think is on the middle west side not sure but it needs a key in hr

[blissful bridge]

damn, ty tho

[digital phoenix]

IKR? i dont understand what they are thinking

[swift grove]

Theres 2 double stone doors in the Demon Gate module where the Skull Key room is on normals inferno (no key needed). Bottom center tile on the right inferno layout. First stone door guarded by an archer and guardsman skeleton. 2nd stone door is past a lever just behind the first door, and a bridge that slides out. https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/Inferno-02-N

[muted breach]

yeha neither bro hope it permanently dies

[echo sparrow]

do the doomers want the game to die so they can finally have the will to stop playing or whta?

[warm basin]

So why do we let people jump into the void to avoid dying? why do they get to just buy back all their gear like that...

[echo sparrow]

they dont get their gear back from the void. they just want you to have it

[digital phoenix]

idk probably lmfao. i honestly want this game to thrive so bad :c it hurts my soul to think it might die

[warm basin]

you sure?

[hardy dirge]

That's not what they said they are doing

[echo sparrow]

ive been told many times the void doesnt grant your gear back. you can test it with some crappy items if you are wanting to know. i havent tested it myself personally

[warm basin]

just wondered cus the dude barely attempted to fight back or run. just went straight void

[native verge]

Yeah they just don't want you to get the loot probably lol

[echo sparrow]

did he think it was time to go down so he could go to the next floor

[summer yoke]

Is a naked barbarian with a legendary club a good build? Ive gotten 4 kills already

[warm basin]

nah i took him out after dragon

[echo sparrow]

people here are indeed spiteful

[subtle heart]

can we make rapier a native fighter weapon ?

[digital phoenix]

they said that either the rarity system is going to be removed or the random modifiers. look in announcements

[hardy dirge]

Look again, he said he wants something to change those are idea currently he's just planing on lowering the potential of rolls

[exotic trout]

@glad thunder all you need is a gear score for high roller one to bridge the gap of over geared and under geared right now high rollers just needs a gear score for example 225 to 350 gear score and 350 gear score to 410 and 410 gear score and above 👆 just some thought love your game 🔥💯

[onyx valve]

Has anyone done a deep dive into Expressman? I thought Green treasure+ was worth sending out, but I just bought it back for 11 G and sold it for 10 G so I lost 1 gold??

[vapid arch]

splitting lobbies up even more is how you get dead lobbies which people will complain about more

[loud moat]

@glad thunder how much faster ttk than shotgun you think you can make?

[wise gyro]

xd

[radiant yarrow]

Hey Does magic healing effect tranquility?

[stark summit]

Frost light riveted or reinforced gloves for bard?

[radiant current]

is t bag bannable?

[sharp hare]

Hello everybody, I have a question. How do you guys do to avoid the cyclop's petrifying beam ? everytime I cycle him to the left he rotates while doing the attack and it always hits me

[rapid ravine]

Lmao

[rustic laurel]

is there someway to boost my fps in game other than having the lowest settings

[tranquil vortex]

how do i do interact with floor spikes challenge on bard

[brittle meteor]

how can we tell what each weapon/skill scales with? i.e. bear scales with str, cougar scales with agi, warlock/wizard scales with will (do different weapons scale differently too - i.e. bows vs swords)

[echo sparrow]

you use disarming traps kit

[minor prairie]

personally i feel like all classes should be able to use the same weapons just with like a 15% or 20% damage loss and missing an attack or 2 on a combo because they arent trained with it, and if they use a bow and arent nativly able to use it they should fire and reload 10% slower cause they dont know how to use it

[grave geode]

there is only physical and magic damage, and apart from panther and chicken druid forms, all physical damage other than true damage scales with physical power which comes from strength and same for magic damages except that it scales with magic power that comes from will. the only kind of unique case is crystal sword which has magic weapon damage on top of the normal weapon damage, but that just means it scales off both physical power and magical power separately. Unless it states otherwise in the description, all weapons and skills will follow the same scaling

[carmine coral]

Trap Disarming Kits

[paper forum]

Do you have to kill Giant Worm to unlock rubysilver crafts?

[blissful bridge]

does song of silence stop all skills, like barbarian's shouts and fighter's second wind?

[digital phoenix]

i pmed you the ss of the announcment

[vestal haven]

https://youtu.be/DtwULqJcLDY?si=-keSK0uMEpHlxNt_
I think everyone should give this a watch.

[coarse dock]

longsword riposte damage should be lowered but in turn have a higher impact rating, or have be changed to where it's more difficult to riposte off of high impact weapons but easier for low impact weapons (opposite of how it works now)

[robust heart]

Anyone have a bis bard guide for trios gear/perks/songs?

[radiant yarrow]

Does magical healing effect tranquility

[thorn grove]

If someone takes your gear, drops it, & no one picks it up, will the goblin merchant retrieve it for you? 🙏🏼 Ty

[prime maple]

all rangers can kindly die irl.

[fringe garnet]

M1 damage needs a buff

Riposte does lots of damage because it's a gimmick, if Longsword doesn't get that gimmicky finicky high damage attack, then it needs to be changed to be in line with other 2hs

[tender karma]

200-250 health on fighters and barbarian 💀 can we fix this shit lol

[quartz stump]

this discord is literally a cesspit of whining about insert your characters counter

[past lark]

why would u expect anything different from a discord gaming community

[rustic laurel]

you probably play druid or rogue lmao

[hard rock]

Bro quit whining

[minor prairie]

😱 😔

[indigo ginkgo]

When is the Rogue going to get a Short Bow?

[minor prairie]

that would just be the survival bow

personally i think they should remove left or right hand weapons and just let us dual wield whatever in whatever slot

like imagine quadruple hand crossbow for rouge lol (actually that sounds like cancer but still fun)

[prisma schooner]

Probably when Rogue isn't balanced around ambush

Personally though, I like stabbing people

[robust heart]

Anyone have a bis bard guide for trios gear/perks/songs?

[prime maple]

ambush is garbage lol