game-discussion

[indigo ginkgo]

Arena, Rogue, 2 shotted every player.

[agile timber]

I wipe monthly

[hard rock]

Ewww bro why

[fossil oasis]

They should have nefed the scaling, but not the AS. And maybe the scaling from 0,75 to only 1 + added base damage

[agile timber]

Rust makes me wipe monthly weekly is pve noob's

[wary thistle]

Ranged is a problem, but the thing about druid is that none of that matters when you can turn into a rat and run away, or chicken panther across the entire room in seconds. Druids are way too versatile that they can escape anything. On top of that they have the cheapest kits in the entire game because the gear that suits them best is gear that no other class can take advantage of, so they're like half the price on the market.

[covert yarrow]

you're talking to wall brother this guy has had 5 people tell him he is wrong and he still copes

[wary thistle]

not surprised if hes a druid main tbh. If theres any class thats hot garbage rn, as it always is. It's rogue

[opal lava]

Anyone able to help me go over a video and teach me how to dodge this wyvern phase transition (ignore the rest im still learning)

[gritty cedar]

I would tend to agree with this. While frustrating to play against, if they're not 3-shotting pdr fighters they probably wouldn't garner so many complaints

[fossil oasis]

mate, ofc most people are happy when a class gets nerfed. there are more fighter, rogue, ranger, mage, warlock and barb mains than druid mains. that doesnt mean you are correct 😉

[sullen cedar]

WTF can i not get credit for Absoulutely Batty {explore waiting room} ruins?????

[fossil oasis]

see, you just proved me right there, you would justify any class nerf but your main class

#1 ladder is rogue btw

[cursive shuttle]

I love when I am loading into a game and it kicks me out, go to load back in, and puts me in the main lobby with my two friends, all my stuff gone, and my character not even loaded in the game.

Cool bug. Good thing that was not a 10k+ kit for HR.

[covert yarrow]

you're right because no one has ever played the class except for druid mains and no one else but you can speak to the strength of class and because you are shit at the game and keep dying that means it is bad

[bleak girder]

GOD DAMN IT. NOT ANOTHER SHIELD/BESERKER QUEST. 9 of each

[opal lava]

Anyone able to help me go over my gameplay and teach me how to dodge this wyvern phase transition (ignore the rest im still learning)

sent u a dm

[gritty cedar]

Not really. I think that most classes are balanced at this point. I do agree that a dps nerf would have probably sufficed for druid. The versatilty of druid isn't such an issue when it isn't three-shotting tanks.

[fossil oasis]

are you mad brother? no reason to insult with all you false assumptions, maybe you should get good at the game and learn how to play against other classes instead of crying about it

[covert yarrow]

it still 3 shots tanks lmao

[wary thistle]

Mmm, i love having to kill an enemy that has like 2 spawns on the map, and is a 50/50 whether it's even the right one

[covert yarrow]

not mad just bewildered as to how much copium one man can inhale

[fossil oasis]

its not 3 shotting tanks bro that just shoes how you dont know enough to argue about it

[gritty cedar]

Yeah I think it's the worst of both worlds, high-skill druids are mad that they're noticeably slowed down, while folks being steamrolled by druids see a patch whose answer is a skillcheck against bear, not an actual nerf to its damage

[covert yarrow]

i get that you play in under 25s only but when you put actual gear on yes it still 3 shots tanks. keep trying though buddy

[opal lava]

Anyone able to help me go over my gameplay and teach me how to dodge this wyvern phase transition (ignore the rest im still learning)

[gritty cedar]

And as I said earlier, skillchecks against bear don't exist in a vacuum, if you're in the middle of a 3v3 trying not to get shanked by a rogue and nuked by a wizard and swiped by a sk. champ, "outplay the bear" isn't always the answer

[covert yarrow]

issue really is just how impossible they are to punish properly, skill checks are fine but when they get 15 chances to land a bear slam headshot because they;re so tanky and can run away and heal to full its not fun.

[wary thistle]

Not even close. Druid barely got nerfed, Barb still deals absurd damage while getting the highest base HP which is the most important stat in the game, and fighters sprint is still WAY too OP of a speed boost.

[fast bronze]

i love waiting 15 minutes to get to Ice abyss for the wendigo to just fall into the smallest hole in the room into the void

[fossil oasis]

again a false assumption xD its getting hillarious. you should try it out before you talk any fake facts here

[heavy oxide]

nerf the longsword perry already

[minor prairie]

lol just found gravewolfs on someone in sub 25

[covert yarrow]

you should ask your doctor to check for tumours im worried about you geniunely

[wary thistle]

might as well hold up a sign that says "im trash." longsword is really bad

[fossil oasis]

barely got nerfed? that was a -30% nerf with 50 str on you and on top of that - 10 Attackspeed in bear

[fossil oasis]

how pathetic man.. really low way to try to win any arguements

[covert yarrow]

this isnt an argument you're just yapping while 10 other people are telling you you're wrong lmao

[wary thistle]

A 30% nerf on a 50 str kit that still costs 1/5 the same quality kit on any other class. Yes. Barely got nerfed.

[agile timber]

Filthy animals need nerfed harder (joking or am i 🤔 )

[opal lava]

Anyone able to help me go over my gameplay and teach me how to dodge this wyvern phase transition (ignore the rest im still learning)

[fossil oasis]

dude you talking about tumors here, please stay out of this convo. Chrono bringing vlaid points but your output is just shamefull

[zinc totem]

I thought Druid would survive the nerf no prob. But it really is bad now if you are spending the money for high strength and agility.

[covert yarrow]

you literally are missing half your brain why would i bother having a legit conversation with you

[wary thistle]

Bro, druid can jump through doors, 3 shot tanks, escape in seconds with rat form and go to areas that anything but rat can't get to, chicken panther jump across a tile in 2s, build kits for 1/5 the price of other classes, AND do it while GS scumming because all your scaling is from armor. If you don't understand how druid is absurdly broken, then you have a worm in your brain.

[fossil oasis]

Yeah same, a nerf was justified but they hammered him down way too much in 1 patch /// @covert yarrow im ignoring you now zere, since i think you arent older than 12 or 13.

[covert yarrow]

oh no im so hurt, once again please talk to your doctor

[wary thistle]

Dude, druids have like 3 absolutely broken things they can do with their transforms that literally no other class is capable of. People whine about rogues and rangers opening doors fast when druids can literally just rat jump through them.

[zinc totem]

Lmao weird how you think you are right when nobody in the world shares the same opinion. Bear can be easily avoided now. At 45 strgth I hit for 150 instead of 230. Panther with 30agi hits for 40 dmg. Druid is the best escape artist I’ll give you that but that’s it now

[covert yarrow]

everyone except for druid mains shares that opinion. you are coping just as much as the other guy lmao

[fossil oasis]

they are just horribly bad at the game if they cant deal with bears now

[ancient glacier]

nerf bard lute damage

[wary thistle]

My brother in christ. "at 45 str i hit for like 150 instead of 230" BECUASE YOU NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DEAL 230 DAMAGE. NO OTHER CLASS CAN HIT NUMBERS LIKE THAT

[fossil oasis]

yeah totally right. be carefull zere seems to be mentally sick or smth. kind of guy that looks up your location IRL caus he cant deal with other opinions

[covert yarrow]

calm down pdf no one wants anything to do with you irl i promise you

[wary thistle]

I have to assume this is bait because theres no way druid mains can actually be this stupid.

[fossil oasis]

now its hits for 0 against any skilled players since the attackspeed is too low, thats the point

[agile timber]

hit's for 150 but not op okay?? even geared that's a little over 2/3rds of some peoples health pools

[wary thistle]

"against skilled players" I rest my case your honor.

[covert yarrow]

you are the 11th person to tell this pdf he is wrong dont get your hopes up on a good conversation

[fossil oasis]

yeah skilled players, not wannabe rogues

[wary thistle]

wannabe rogues? what are you even on about?

[fossil oasis]

dude 150 on a target dummy on the head, against PDR fighters thats like 38

[covert yarrow]

lmao yeah hes gotta be trolling for sure now right

[wary thistle]

it's almost like when you transorm into the bear you basically become a PDR fighter yourself... except you can just turn it off and on at will

[fossil oasis]

yeah but any PDR fighters easily outtrade you now since you dont land your hits anymore most likely

[agile timber]

Noticed i said some peoples not fighter

Any ways have fun you guys i just thought that was funny

[wary thistle]

it's almost like you need to time your attacks so you can land your hits instead of just spamming right click until they die. Yknow, the thing that every other class in the game also has to do

[fossil oasis]

yeah ofc not but as any other class, druid has hard or easy matchups. mages melt druids, almost impossible to gapclose, ranges also give you a very hard time. even good rogues now can outplay your right click bear now it got really slow

[keen parcel]

i do go to hr... im just unlucky as fuck

[fossil oasis]

you always had to time your attacks with the bear, since it also functions as a dodge against some weapons, but the animation from click to hit is too long now

[high ruin]

Bruh does the goblin merchant not recover your stuff if you fall in the void? I got launched by some bug, and landed on a tiny rock unable to recover

[fossil oasis]

jsut to be clear, i think the scaling was too much and needed a nerf, but now its really stupid. since bows are still the best weapons in the game and the druid cant equip one it needs to go in at some point. you cant harass from long range. you can resett, yes but then your enemy will resett too

[wary thistle]

Wow, an attack that has absurdly high damage and scaling take a long time to land? Crazy how that works. It's almost like Barbs and Fighters have ALWAYS had to deal with that, except they didn't get the benefit of free PDR and being able to swap their PDR for max move speed with a click of a button.

[wary thistle]

range being a problem does not make druids not wildly broken. Even after the nerfs they're still broken. IM needs to add weapon scaling or druids will stay broken literally forever.

[bold pier]

make vigor give health in animals forms and just nerf damage B(

[high ruin]

they do

[fossil oasis]

you are a rogue, correct?

[bold pier]

it doesnt @high ruin

[wary thistle]

yeah it literally does. You don't lose stats for shapeshifting

[high ruin]

it literally does lol

[fossil oasis]

you lose massively stats when you go panther, and bear is bulky and low, any doorway can give you the victory

[wary thistle]

im not lmao, I quit rogue because rogue ACTUALLY gets giga nerfed constantly. So hard that IM is now having to remake the class.

[bold pier]

test it?

[fossil oasis]

with what class you strugle against druids?

[wary thistle]

Literally all of them bro. Any druid with half a brain can't be beaten. The only stats you lose for going panther form is 25% hp and 25% healing, and healing isn't even relevant. The reason you lose those stats is because panther form drops your hitbox down so far that someone with a rondel dagger literally NEEDS to crouch just to hit you.

[boreal ledge]

Imagine having an issue hitting panther hitbox

[fossil oasis]

all of them? sorry for you mate ^^

[wary thistle]

it's not that you can't hit it, its that something like a rogue that primarly uses daggers literally doesn't have enough range on their attacks to even hit a panther without crouching, which puts you at a massive disadvantage

[high ruin]

Have you tested it lmao? You get about 1 hp per vigor, and that translate to 0.5 per vig on panther, and 3 hp as bear.

[high ruin]

Bruh what? No you don't the panther hitbox is huge af.

[boreal ledge]

Rogue absolutely murders panther 1v1 with gear on.

[neon mountain]

do you lose crafted gear in arena?

[wary thistle]

bro, bear form gives you 50% PDR. Do you understand how much armor rating that takes to reach on even a fighter?

[high ruin]

It literally doesn't do that, it akes your current pdr max is usually 30% and gives you half of that.

[fossil oasis]

yeah panther never wins against rogues lol, just bear does. and if you are a smart rogue you just stand in an open doorway and bear cant do shit to you

[leaden flare]

nop

[wary thistle]

panther hitbox is huge horizontall, not vertically. Panthers problem is the same reason they havent put dwarf in the game. Having a shorter hitbox is super strong. @boreal ledge Maybe at actual BiS, becuase druids scaling gets diminishing returns, but outside of that no.

[random coral]

@wide depot yo, did u just die in HR ?

[frosty island]

Make a thief class which can open chest in invisible mode and move freely around without being limited to 10 steps . It should have perks with open chest faster and do more dmg to bosses and monsters and perks for more duration time in invisible mode ect. Kinda like rogue just better - But with a lower damage than the rogue tho - it should be good in pve but suck in pvp.

[high ruin]

no Den that's a stupid idea

[agile timber]

Bro wants a nightblade from elder scrolls lol

[boreal ledge]

Panther doesnt fit thru crouched spaces btw, its quite tall hitbox as well as long.
This isn’t hypotheticals, i play against druids and as druid.
My favourite wizard counter to panther is rondel.. not hard to hit at all

[frosty island]

Maybe u think it's stupid i don't

[high ruin]

Course not, you want a perma invis class

[frosty island]

Ehh no..

[fossil oasis]

Druid is a very weak class now and needs to be buffed back a bit.

[high ruin]

Bruh the goblin merchant is scamming me, i fell into the void, does that void all my items? What gives

Why can't they ever put that in like the message box, so lame. rip my kit

[wary thistle]

"I play against druids and as druid" yes, so do i, we are in fact both playing the same game. Panthers don't fit through crouch spaces because their hitbox is wide as well as long and crouch spaces are thin and short.

[frosty island]

Please buff steps in rogues hide mode from 10 steps to 20 steps perk but give physical dmg bonus penalty when coming out of stealth of -5%..

[random coral]

xdd 20steps

[agile timber]

10 is already broken if used correctly

[high ruin]

There's a reason they reduced the hide time and sneak steps for rogue Den

[frosty island]

How much was steps before?

[high ruin]

i mean crouch audio.

[boreal ledge]

I am convinced you are just a trolling kid now, that bit about crouch spaces is the most nonsense drivel i have read here.

Good luck with whatever you are doing, it certainly isn’t getting good at this game.

[frosty island]

10 steps is crap

[wary thistle]

Lmao, if they're not at crouch height than why can you panther form under wall spikes? You're just straight up wrong about how panthers hitbox works.

[wary thistle]

They never reduced the steps, it's always been 10. They actually buffed it because it didnt used to give a move speed boost

[frosty island]

You can barely move from 1 room into another room with 10 steps xD. So it's not broken it's trash

[high ruin]

I meant audio steps.

[frosty island]

Without creep in solo it's very trash against people who actually use headphones and audio

[wary thistle]

Yeah, I don't play rogue anymore becuase rogue has pretty much always been hot garbage. every time rogue is decent everyone whines about them being OP and then the class gets gutted.

[frosty island]

I only plays the pickpocket rogue because that's prettu much all it can do if u don't camp a room with true physical and bis kit ofc.

[silent notch]

500 gold for anyone that goes in with me and helps find leather caps

[cloud jungle]

is spectral knight supposed to leap up and land right on top of you ?

[wary thistle]

yeah, you cant all in an enemy on rogue unless you've already gotten them down to like 60% hp

[agile timber]

Still broken to have an insta vanish if used right also the fact that you can aggro the entire room and dump them onto some one is just silly

[high ruin]

Yes, you dodge it by moving behind his jump point or so I hear.

[cloud jungle]

right what I mean is he's right next to you, jumps up and immediately lands in the same place

[frosty island]

Also silly when u get aggro monsters move slowly and jacky and u can't move anywhere and then u kinda have to run from the big pool

[wary thistle]

Invis pots, wizard invis, bard invis. Rogue isn't the only one. You can also drop aggro onto someone by just walking further from the enemy than them. Please actually play rogue so you can understand how garbage hide really is

[cloud jungle]

like no time to move

[frosty island]

True xD That's why u barely see any use hide if they not play landmine rogue

[agile timber]

This is true but at least they have to do something with a visible timer/action so you can get ready

[high ruin]

I've never encountered that

[fervent anvil]

ngl full melee cleric bis in arena is fun as fuck

[grave lark]

hey why does the gold not go into the bags when you transfer into your storage????

[covert yarrow]

bugged with recent patch

[wary thistle]

Complaining about rogues is honestly just dumb in general. There is not a single thing rogues can do that another class can't do better. Druids and slayer fighters are literally just better rogues.

[frosty island]

Just buff the rogue steps from 10 to 15 - that's real cooking!

[agile timber]

nerf rogues 2024 sdf is right

[wary thistle]

They need a lot more than just 15 extra steps tbh

[frosty island]

I know and i agree it should be 20

[still cloud]

holy shit add a buy all to expressman already, this single click purchase shit is cancerous

[wary thistle]

Even that wouldn't fix the class. They need some serious help.

[silk meadow]

Let rogue duel-wield handcrossbow

[frosty island]

At least it would help me as the pickpocket rogue and i don't have to rely on waiting for players it would do so i can move into a room from another way better than just the 10

[wary thistle]

Nah, even that would be bad bc you'd be -50MS. Hand crossbow is just a garbage weapon tbh. The only reason rogues use it is bc it's their only option.

[static hornet]

Any1 new want free stuff ? Dm me!

[silk meadow]

you got shit aim cause handcrossbow is one rogues best tools

[frosty island]

He didn't say that

[wary thistle]

Brother you lack reading comprehension. It's one of rogues best tools, but it's a garbage weapon. The only reason rogues use it is because it's their only option. That's why rogue is the only class you ever see use the hand crossbow. It literally has a slower reload animation that the normal crossbow.

[silk meadow]

"Hand crossbow is just a garbage weapon tbh." - @wary thistle

[frosty island]

It is garbage compare to the other weapons like longbow

[wary thistle]

Yes. It is a garbage weapon. But it's also their only ranged option, so you use it despite it being garbage. I really don't know how you're struggling to understand this.

[steel anvil]

how do i do a zero to hero

[frosty island]

Watch some youtube videos on how to do it

I actually think the torch do more dmg than the standard rondel at least if you have 15+will

[tidal kelp]

...i get the feeling we aren't seeing sorcerer this year...

[frosty island]

True

[wary thistle]

Nah, rondel is barely above it. It used to be lower than the torch lmao

[frosty island]

Does the torch not do fire dmg aswell as the 10 weapon dmg?

[tidal kelp]

...wut?

[wary thistle]

no it just deals normal dmg and normal scaling

[frosty island]

Ah okay it thought it will do some burn dmaage aswell

[tidal kelp]

it does fist damage

[frosty island]

fist does 20 dmg if i know correctly

[tidal kelp]

depends on the class. naked cleric i think does 12-13

[wary thistle]

it depends on your stats, just like every other weapon

[tidal kelp]

base is probably 15

[frosty island]

Am i the only who wants to see a pve/thief class 😦

[tidal kelp]

...pickpocket/lockpick rogue?

[umbral mantle]

"Hard to gap close" as someone who has exploited druids myself (I'm not playing them since the patch though), this is BS. Panther ability into chicken double jump closes an insane amount of distance.

Mages don't the have the most reliable damage at long range either considering the slowness of their longer ranged projectiles, they're kind of more mid-range combatants where the flying panther-chicken can fly right up to their face.

Not that I'm arguing they don't have bad matchups, I had warlocks that I couldn't get past the longsword parry with the bear with so little power over my hitbox unlike my trusty arming swords or rapiers, but gap closing was never the issue so I just had to call this out.

[frosty island]

I mean is thief not in dnd or have i forgot something wrong?

[tidal kelp]

rogue subclass

[frosty island]

I don't think pickpocket is so good on the rogue because the 10 steps in hide is really a pain in the ... tbh

[tidal kelp]

i mean, rogues shouldn't have invis. Invis is a magical effect and rogues don't have magic.

[frosty island]

Also it's way better to just lockpick and open chest i assume than actually try to pickpocket pvp players

[tidal kelp]

people do it

[wary thistle]

poison is considered magic dude

[tidal kelp]

it is magic damage but it isn't the rogue casting a spell.

[frosty island]

I also do it. I am just sayin that 10 steps in hide is trash and makes it real hard to pickpocket and even if i somehow manage to get into another room with my 10 steps i might steal a hp pot if i am lucky but risk my life in the effort for getting a single hp pot or so.

[quartz escarp]

10 steps is more than enough for a rogue to be a good punisher in trios play and it should stay as is

[wary thistle]

Yeah, but that's a really nonsensical arguement to make. Invis doesn't need to be inherently magic. That's like saying fighter shouldn't be able to sprint because haste is a spell

[frosty island]

But it's not for a pickpocket rogue in solo because people actually lisent to audio and even with creep it's hard, because u can't just creep unto someone who use audio. But yeah maybe in trios where people make so much noise they can't hear anything.

[tidal kelp]

last i checked, people can't turn invisible. Sprint is physical, it isn't getting magically hasted.

[quartz escarp]

you could also just not play pickpocket rogue

[frosty island]

But it's there as a build for some reason and they seem to forget they have this build made for rogues that's why i am saying they should make a new class "Thief" and remove hide from rogues.

[wary thistle]

Brother it's a fantasy world. Last I checked people also can't make fireballs with their hands, transform into animals, or just decide that their next hit someone slows the enemy and deals extra damage.

[humble wave]

when is wipe?

[frosty island]

Haha true..

[quartz escarp]

why do you want a new class for pve dude you've been insisting and arguing about it for fucking days now just go play the game normally or something

[frosty island]

Because that's what some players wants. I am just insisting on it more than people who gives up after they suggest it. Also i am having fun with stealing more than only pvp.

It actually requires skill to steal from someone which are good at the game.

[quartz escarp]

ive never seen someone ask for a pve centered class that can steal from players

you could also just ask for pickpocket changes instead of turning it into it's own class (UNNECESSARY!!)

[tidal kelp]

you can't say that invis isn't magic then list a bunch of magic as an example.

[quartz escarp]

you can't just ignore everything he said

[frosty island]

What would be the change then. I am simply asking for a buff for rogues steps and people goes crazy. Then i sugges a class which is pve focused but can steal from players and people still cry for some reason. Like it's not that hard to deal with a stealthed person you can hear by audio. Especially with all the "detect stealt" skills and perks in game

[tidal kelp]

this person is ignoring logic and using "durr, magic" as an argument

[wary thistle]

The last one i mentioned was Achilles Strike which isn't magic. But if you want to play that game, last i checked you can't play a drum to physically harm someone, or play a song that makes you faster, or open doors and chests...

[frosty island]

True

[tidal kelp]

bards are a magical class, rogues are not

[wary thistle]

How are they a magic class and rogues aren't? What about bards makes them magic?

[quartz escarp]

yeah its kind of something you must let go because you can do whatever you want and the outcome will always be either rogues are undetectable or rogues have fake stealth

[frosty island]

Fighters are fighters they not magical class which can regain 40% of their health back as a magical healer would could but they can. So what we argue here?

[wary thistle]

it's almost like trying to argue logic about something that is inherently illogical is stupid.

[frosty island]

Or i can keep insisting on a new class called the thief for a more pve aspect of the game and not relying on only pvp to get items.

[wary thistle]

Clearly Hide must just not be a spell since rogues can use it. It must be some kind of physical invisiblity.

Or maybe rogues can use just the one spell, who knows. None of this shit is real, it doesn't need to make sense.

[quartz escarp]

you ever thought about asking for a pve mode instead of a pve class? that way there isnt class bloat and all classes can be used the way you want

[frosty island]

True because its a "game" you know 🙂 ?

[wary thistle]

Wdym? Clearly all games need to be realistic, right?

[frosty island]

I don't want a pve mode. I want to be able to have fun by stealing from players which aren't minimizied into me camping for someone coming though a door! What's the big deal u not understand?

[wary thistle]

SDF literally said that they want to make the rogue able to be a "Crow" playstyle, as well as making avoiding PvP to focus on PvE easier for all classes

[frosty island]

Nah but some people seem to forget that or just ain't mature enough to understand it!

[wary thistle]

To be clear im partially on your side. I think that them forcing Rogue to be a stricly PvE class like they've done by absolutely gutting them is stupid, but it's a play style they want to allow for all classes

[quartz escarp]

im telling you that’s almost if not entirely impossible to balance

[frosty island]

It is by making a thief class. Which relied more on the pve aspect and could steal from players. I could balance this class perfectly.

[wanton geyser]

are rogues able to steal inventory now?

[keen parcel]

CAN PYRAMID SPAWN CRYSTAL BALL? IM DOUBTING WHETHER ITS POSSIBLE ATP

[frosty island]

They been for a loong time now.

[quartz escarp]

balance it perfectly and make a suggestion instead of bothering everyone then

[wary thistle]

this is a crazy thing to argue about because literally the lead dev of the game in question disagrees with you.

[wanton geyser]

sense when? thats dumb asf

[amber field]

We deleting items next week or what?

[frosty island]

I already has perfect balance and i made a suggestion.

[wary magnet]

since forever

[wanton geyser]

not forever never had my inventory been stolen before

[frosty island]

Since like s2 or so..

[wary thistle]

pickpocket has always been a thing, but it's not very good. You just interact with people and it steals a completely random item

[wary magnet]

cause its a meme playstyle that nobody runs

[frosty island]

Yeah it's very bad but you can steal some stuff if your lucky and someone pass your door which you been camping for 4 min of the game

[quartz escarp]

rogue should have pickpocket and all classes should be able to focus pve easily but i just dont think making an entire class based on those two things would be a good idea

[wanton geyser]

my whole inventory was stolen by one gut and i couldnt catch him cuz he had nothing on

[frosty island]

All classes should have pickpocket lol

If we think about it in a realistic way everyone can steal hah...

[wary thistle]

it wouldn't, and that's exactly what I said earlier. There's no point in making a class for it becuase rogue is already that class. Rogue just needs to be buffed to not be complete garbage

[wary thistle]

So true. It only makes logical sense that all classes should be able to pickpocket, since they all have hands, right?

[frosty island]

True like a buff in crouch mode so u can move at least 20steps it would do pickpocket rogue very good.

[frosty island]

Yeah if we think about it that way.

I bet alot of people would suddenly try to steal from others lols

[wary thistle]

Hide in general needs to be massively buffed. It's honestly a god awful skill that is only remotely usable if you have 3 other perks to make it slightly less trash.

[quartz escarp]

yeah, but now apparently he’s saying all classes should have pickpocket, and that it’s realistic if that was the case as if we aren’t talking about a video game set in a fictional land filled with magic, unexplained forces, and many other things that don’t exist

[frosty island]

That's also true. But i mean there is players playing pvp rogue and thus use hide like the landmine rogue. But maybe if they just gave hide the "Hide mastery perk" as a buff and removed that part of the perk and then made rogues able to move 20 steps i would be kind very glad by this because it would help my build since i am a thief. That's all i do in the game. Some people might not understand why i have fun with this. But also i might not understand why some people have fun by only pvp'ing so..

[wary thistle]

It's a bit, there was a guy earlier saying rogue shouldn't be able to invis bc it's a spell and rogues cant use spells

[wary thistle]

Yeah but landmine wasn't even really that big of a problem. People just didn't like it because they didn't want to have to play around it. It was still super easy to counter landmine bc Hide is limited to 10 steps, and usually you could just fight back and outdamage them

[quartz escarp]

..yeah? hide is useful in trios, you severely punish an enemy that pushed too far.. sometimes it feels unfair, because in the dungeons you don’t know if they have a rogue, but in arena it’s a bit more bearable. landmine isnt the only way to use hide

[frosty island]

Yeah i know and i agree that those limited 10 steps is very awful to play with!

[wary thistle]

It kind of is, but that's because Hide is actually just a trash skill, and rogues can't really fight without hide because the hitslow from all the weapons in the game is way too high

[frosty island]

Very true rogues would not be able to get near cloe to people the same way they did without hide.

[gritty cedar]

Seems rather easy to just prioritize hide as a pve-skill, boost that shit to a minute if you like, if it comes with large-pvp penalties you don't have to worry about landmine

[quartz escarp]

rogue has crazy, and i mean absolutely bonkers dps in higher gears you can usually get 3 stabs off minimum and then probably finish them off by the time they swing with some more stabs

[frosty island]

True that's why they should buff the 10 steps to at least 20. But something like after exiting hide reduced dmg bonus by 50%

[gritty cedar]

"Damage after exiting hide is reduced by 50% for five seconds" boom hide is now pve and escape-oriented

[frosty island]

Yeah it's not that hard and it should be done. So rogues could move more freely but be more pve focued with hide skill.

[wary thistle]

You say that but Barb still tops DPS, and probably always will. Rogue only has bonkers DPS with maxed out true phys. Rangers and bards can do the same dmg from range with a survival bow.

[wary thistle]

That's how hide used to be when the game came out, but they nerfed it. They don't really even need PvP penalties. It's not a difficult skill to play around. People just don't want to bother so they whine here until SDF nerfs rogue again.

[frosty island]

@gritty cedar I like this guy he seems to get it!

[quartz escarp]

yes, theres a lot of balance issues, rogue still has good dps, its good for catching others off guard and picking your fights imo true damage shouldnt be a thing anyways

[wary thistle]

Rogues would actually be completely useless if true phys didnt exist though. And it is good for those moments, and that's exactly why it's a bad class. No other class is forced to pick and choose fights or catch people off guard like rogue is. If you catch someone off guard with ANY class you're bound to win, even more so if you don't play rogue

[frosty island]

Free movement in stealth as rogues please but with a "damage penalty after exiting hide damage bonus is reduced by 50% for five seconds" - Thank you iron mace for making the hide skill a more pve part of the game and make pickpocket rogue more reliable. For those who want to pvp just don't use hide ❤️

[wary thistle]

That's the rogue paradox. You're meant to play stealthily and sneak up on people to kill them, but the only way you can sneak up on someone and kill them is if they've already taken damage. In which case you've already lost the element of surprise

[quartz escarp]

its easier to catch people off guard with rogue than any other class thats what makes it semi useful in trios but nonetheless i think it still needs buffs and removing true damage would also nerf the mentioned surv bows. barb has good dps with the felling

[daring urchin]

ive done spectral night about 15 times not fabric

[silent geyser]

Bonk wizard is ridiculous

[gritty cedar]

The thing with rogue is that as soon as you see a marauder-rogue strolling to you with a sexy cape billowing and a legendary rapier, you know you're dead before your weapon is out. They can function as a decent off-tank and harass dps but they never really shine as an actual...thief-rogue except in low-gear solos. So yeah some tilt towards the pve aspects would help that a lot. Not just for naked troll farmers, but actual sneaking chest thieves

[wary thistle]

Except you can do the exact same thing you're describing on a bard and it would be better. also based pfp

[frosty island]

A buff for rogues in hide and free movement, but remove true damage. Fine by me! ❤️

[wary thistle]

the only thing that makes it easier for rogue to catch people off guard is hide, and as established, hide is hot garbage. Also felling axe barb is literally THE top dps and will probably never be beaten

[austere whale]

do bosses health get reset if the aggro gets reset?

[quartz escarp]

did i not say i think it needs buffs?

[frosty island]

Yes

[austere whale]

thanks, that's unfortunate

[wary thistle]

I know, I'm just saying that rogue is in a tricky spot where it's difficult for them to buff rogue without buffing other classes, and every time they have done it people whine. Like look at the rondel dagger. Fighter and bard have been menaces with a weapon that was buffed for the sake of rogues.

[frosty island]

True but it would be used "cheesed" like that by all players if that was a thing! - Like shooting from outside of the room!

[austere whale]

very true, I just hate getting third partied while taking a boss and having to leave

[frosty island]

True but it's the only option you have and the right one is to leave. Or kill them depending on the time left!

[austere whale]

yea, thanks for the help!

[frosty island]

No biggies you welcome

[wary thistle]

Tbh one of the biggest problems with rogue, which is hilarious because it's one of the things people complain about most is that their base stats are terrible. Resourcefulness is literally the worst stat in the game and someone people still complain about rogues "opening doors too fast." And agility is also trash because movement speed is so easy to counter, you take 1 hit from a weapon and your movement speed no longer matters. Plus it's the only stat in the game that's hard capped.

[frosty island]

True but druid does not have to open doors they just jump tho them like nothing.

[wary thistle]

Yeah, druids are a whole other story. That class is unspeakably broken and honestly needs to be reworked. But SDF wont do that because he mains druid

[warm bluff]

I think they should add several new enemies like a gelatinous cube and a Hawk too uh?

[frosty island]

Probally not but that shit is crazy unfair. Imagine u don't even have to open doors lol

[wary thistle]

There is an explosive in your mailbox

[frosty island]

A eagle would be cool

[wary thistle]

read the last 3 words.

[frosty island]

But it's not cool 😦

[warm bluff]

:3

[wooden lichen]

No modifiers = ded game

[frosty island]

Guys have you ever been fisted by some invisible player? I am not talking about the rogue now. (And no not killed either but just like fisted two times by a invisible force in-game)

[wary thistle]

honestly no modifiers is such an awful idea because it will actually make druid even more broken than it already is

[wary thistle]

prob just a cheater

[frosty island]

Not sure i was more thinking a admin of some kind.. I mean i was 100% fisted two times by something invisible.

[warm bluff]

I get rubberbanded backwards constantly which is actually horrible :(

[wary thistle]

what did the killfeed say?

[frosty island]

Nothing. I had just cleared the room under where the skeleton champ is in the forgotten ruins (You know the one in the corner) but before i went upstairs to the skeleton champion i was fisted on the stairs on my way up like first one time and i was like wtf.. Then i tried to walk up again but was fisted one more time.

Then from that moment on nothing more happend. But was hell a wierd and was just wondering if any ever tried something like that..

[frosty island]

It's not a joke and was just curious if something like that ever happend to someoneelse.

[wary thistle]

yeah hes saying it was probably rubber banding/lag

[icy oak]

How does arena matching work rn? Is it still gear based?

[frosty island]

What does that means sry. Ah lag? Sounds like a wierd lag because the damage was like low as fist does - Also i did not feel the lag heh.

[agile timber]

Nerf rouge

[frosty island]

Buff rogue

[wary thistle]

rubber banding is movement lag, like when you walk forward and it teleports you back

[agile timber]

Yeah fighter needs a buff

[frosty island]

Cool thanks for letting me know

[warm bluff]

I'm not joking sadly, "rubber banding" is what it's called when you get teleported backwards to where you were before you moved, it is really bad when you are being chased or trying to dodge a weapon

[wary thistle]

Fighter can get buffed when they literally remove sprint from the game

[frosty island]

Yeah i get you. But sounds like a wierd place to get that and the damage was barely anything. Maybe 2 dmg total xD

[warm bluff]

Yeah you usually don't take damage from rubberbanding, but you could have teleported back into a trap!

[sly moss]

when are you going to start banning solo teamers? your game is in such shiet condition

[wary thistle]

banning teamers is only in HR

[agile timber]

I agree give them a increase pdr skill instead

[frosty island]

True but there is no traps in there, only outside, but then again the damage was not the same as a trap would do. Not sure what happend tbh but i was 100% hit by some invisible dude which fisted me two times.

[frosty island]

Just report them they will get banned

[wary thistle]

Honestly I'd rather that than sprint any day. Sprint is so ungodly broken, and I hate how fighters whine about sprint being bad when it's literally the skill everyone goes for when multiclass is a thing

[flint charm]

They just nerfed the shit out of it and you still get shit on by it? Skill issue

[frosty island]

Haha so true

[wary thistle]

Nerfed the shit out of it? Brother it gives you 45 Move speed. If you can't understand how that's broken then your brain has a skill issue

[warm bluff]

Cripple every class except the one I play :)

[frosty island]

Untill a mouse pops though the door which hasn't even been opened yet and straight into a bear form.

[flint charm]

Not all doors have holes in them. Plan ahead and don’t stand by a door waiting to get ganked lmao

[agile timber]

Yes thank you i play Ranger Fighter Wiz and cleric so anything else gut them

[frosty island]

So u now also have to be afraid of doors with holes and avoid them at all cost. Ok got ya

[warm bluff]

Remove ability to move on all classes other than cleric

[frosty island]

1+

[zinc totem]

Do you just spend all day arguing with people who think Druid is bad? You haven’t said anything that proves it’s op. Being able to escape does not make a class good, being able to kill does.

[swift wind]

Is the healing quest still bugged?

[wary thistle]

Awful take. They literally gutted rogues double jump just because they poorly designed ruins and let people get out bounds, and yet they do nothing about rats jumping through doors. It's not just being ganked by a druid, it's the fac that if you're chasing a druid they can jump through a door and you have 0 chance of catching up to them because you'll need to open the door.

[flint charm]

Daddys little geoff does not know what he’s talking about. He just calls stuff broken because he has skill issue, first it was druid then next message it was fighter lol

[wary thistle]

Yes, because druid and fighter are the 2 most broken classes atm? And I didn't even say fighter specifically, i said sprint.

[frosty island]

Sayin that jumping tho a hole in doors is not hell a OP.. What the fk is the matter with people!

[zinc totem]

Looking at their pfp you can see mental

[flint charm]

Druid JUST got nerfed into the ground what do you mean most OP rn

[wary thistle]

I wasn't even the one who brought up druids, I was talking about something totally different until someone else mentioned it, so pipe down lil bro. I also provided proof earlier you just chose not to read it ig

[silent geyser]

Please for the love of God do something with the Crystal sword PDR fighters

[wary thistle]

Great example of how Fighter is broken. Crystal sword fighter is stronger than Warlock. The class that was literally intended to use Crystal sword and PDR.

[warm bluff]

My friend uses druid but we both suck and honestly I'm losing steam to keep playing :(

I can't do high roller dungeons and feel like I'm not improving at the game because I hardly ever see other players 😔

[zinc totem]

Druid can’t kill fighter/barbarian with bear, can’t kill squishy with panther now. What did I miss?

[agile timber]

Insert common rarity Skill issue (just fooling around btw)

[frosty island]

Skill issue, probally can't jump thou doors even. Which means it's 100% skill issue.

[wary thistle]

Literally skill issue. I can buy a full blue kit for druid and wipe lobbies right now for like 2k gold.

[wary thistle]

Nah he's kinda valid. Sword master is busted with Crystal sword

[storm geyser]

how do you do the leathersmith "interact with floor spikes" is it just using trap disarming kits or is it something else

[wary thistle]

yeah you need a disarm kit

[gritty cedar]

2nd inferno in a row getting the wrong map 😮

[wary thistle]

that's the worst. I had an objective to go to the long bridge tile in crypts, and got the wrong map 5 times in a row

[sly moss]

ive had ghost king kill for so long and its been warlord every time for the past 2 days

[gritty cedar]

I have blood platforms and demon throne so it's a double fail each time lol

[quaint sluice]

anyone figure out how to kill banshee without RNG yet?

[wary thistle]

what rng is there with banshee?

[errant moat]

limit the amout of times warlock can phatomize plssss class is so busted

[shrewd glacier]

Alright tips on spectral knight counter clockwise long swing? I've got 100% failure when duck + look down

[wary thistle]

also limit the amount of times druid can dreamwalk

[quaint sluice]

everything luck with her nipple shots luck with getting good ghost spawns for debuff stacks

[fathom condor]

thats not rng.

[rancid talon]

@long snow miss you ❤️

[sly moss]

they really need to tune down the length of phantomize he is in it for 2 hrs long lol

[quaint sluice]

that very much is rng you need to hope for good spawns when you get ghosts and hope for good spots she attacks her nipples at you

[wary thistle]

if anything phantomize lasting it long as it does makes it worse. It's really easy to just chase them when they phantomize

[sly moss]

if they dont chase you into mobs ect

[fathom condor]

you legit just have to strafe perpendicular to the nipps, ghosts are extremly easy to get

[sly moss]

and if he curses you hes healing the whole time so hows it worse?

[wary thistle]

yeah, but plenty of other classes can do that kind of thing. Rogues can invis to drop aggro to you

[quaint sluice]

wrong. the nip attack is near impossible when its in the wall because you cant see them and how theyre faced and ghosts are not easy because they can spawn high and be impossible to reach

[wary thistle]

you only heal if you have torture mastery, and because you can't interact with objects, and you take 50% more magic dmg while in phantomize, so you can't close doors when you're stuck in phantomize and if you get hit by a spell or a lanter/molly you take crazy damage

[pulsar ferry]

i have been playing for 8 hours i have gone to inferno in 6 runs every single time i have gotten warlord, i jsut want to fight the fucking ghost king

[silent geyser]

I can deal with rondel being busted but these 200hp 60% pdr crystal fighters are aids

[fathom condor]

your fcking up your placement then, never got them on the walls. just keep strafing and youll get ghosts

[quaint sluice]

How am I fucking up where she decides to stand I'm in the middle of the arena and she's on the wall

[minor prairie]

sounds to me like you just arent aware

[quaint sluice]

3 different streamers who say otherwise

[sly moss]

@wary thistle Valid Point. Your knowledge has superceded mine. GG.

[wary thistle]

I've just played a lot of all the classes. So I understand the strengths and weaknesses of them. That's why any time someone whines about rogue I beg them to actually play the class, because anyone who complains about rogue being OP has never played rogue.

[sly moss]

i love rogue, i wish it was op =/

[silent notch]

anyone wanna help me find leather caps?

[wary thistle]

it will never be OP, because if it ever even reaches a point where it's on par with other classes it will get nerfed into oblivion again

[sly moss]

but why?!

[silent fable]

keep on getting abnormal files every couple minutes after last update?

[high ruin]

Rogue is only op when you're fighting someone who doesn't know you're a rogue

[wary thistle]

Rogue is OP when you're fighting someone whos monitor is turned off

[high ruin]

or when they're afk with no gear on

[sly moss]

HAHA LMAO

[olive socket]

YO Sorry for smashing all your timmy heads in Arenas with my Barbaians Bardiche.

[silent geyser]

Who can give me a rondel bard setup

[sly moss]

i mean, you can outplay ppl pretty hard w rogue still

[high ruin]

yo bro don't team kill like that

[wary thistle]

It's actually insane how easy it is to just 2 tap a rogue when they attack you bc it takes them like 5 hits to get you even half HP

[sly moss]

that part tho.... I just sit in cave troll room now and wait to mess with people there can get em killed prty ez

[wary thistle]

Playing bardiche barb is not something to be proud of my dude

[high ruin]

bro prob thinks bardiche is hard to use

[wary thistle]

"yeah guys, sorry for clapping your little timmy cheeks with my AK-47 vs your rondel dagger. Better luck next time bud." - That guy

[high ruin]

[wary thistle]

The bardiche change is actually one of the worst things ive ever seen IM do

"Increased weapon damage of the bardiche (+5)" 3 patches later "significantly reduced the damage of the bardiche (-2), also made axe mastery affect so you can not only negate the nerf, but actually increase it by 1 more weapon damage."

[subtle heart]

at what tailor affinity can you craft rubysilver stuff?

[frosty island]

@wary thistle Maybe u should help me in the rogue chat people not understand it and cry over a physical damage reduction after exiting hide. But we get free movement. People not seem to understand that with free movement they would be able to get closer or escape with hide they should just not attack immidalty after exiting hide. lols (sry bad english in the end)

[coarse stream]

does longbow triple shot shoot 2 arrows or 3

[wary thistle]

Longbow is 2, recurve is 3, survival bow is 4

[coarse stream]

thanks

[subtle heart]

a dark forest map would be so cool

[wary thistle]

I don't think a physical damage reduction while exiting hide would be good. Hide already needs to be buffed, adding a con to it would just even it out

[frosty island]

If it's only where for around 3 seconds it's not that bad over getting free movement tbh but it's just the way i see it.

[errant moat]

play warlock or dont play the game

[frosty island]

Giga laugh

[errant moat]

delete warlock and rondal dagger

[wary thistle]

3 seconds would be way too long to have a debuff like that. I wouldn't trade the debuff for movement because they really just need to buff that ability without putting a downside to it

you misspelled druid

[frosty island]

Then 2 seconds. Orelse there need to be a big penalty of movement speed when exiting. That could also be a thing

Like after exiting hide you get a 30% ms movespeed penalty for 3 seconds. 😄

There needs to be a nerf or penalty of rogues if they was able to move freely in hide i feel.

[wary thistle]

Hide needs an unconditional buff, not some give and take change

[fossil oasis]

Guys do you lose your gear if you go arena?

[wary thistle]

You're not supposed to but it can happen,. its bugged

[frosty island]

Not sure how i feel about that. I mean if rogues was able to move freely around everyone would just cry over it being too OP epcially for the landmine rogue or those who uses ambush and such with true wep dmg ect. So a big ms speed or physical bonus reduction for 3 seconds would compensate for that but ofc it would kinda nerf the landmine build if u had to wait 3 seconds not to get a pen before attacking someone form beind like with ambush.

[wary thistle]

rogues being able to move around freely without any step limit would be stupid, and wouldn't even be that strong because hide duration without hide mastery is absurdly low. Also being able to move freely in hide wouldn't even be that strong because you'd still have footsteps, so it's not hard to know where you are

that's part of the problem with rogue, most classes have counters that require you to do something special, not just have ears

[frosty island]

That's true but at least you could move freely around in stealth which makes a target a bit harder to hit not to mention crouch walking and slow walking at the same time with creep make it really hard to hear you especially if you wait for the player to start fighting a monster before creeping in closer. It would probally be almost not audioable. So you won't be able to detect someone like that by having ears. So if there wasn't like a 3 seconds physical reduction bonus you would just be able to attack right when you came out of hide. I think that's very bad. But instead sneaking up on someone fighting a monster and then come out of stealth and just wait 3 seconds before you start attacking will at least give the other player a chance if they notices this or was somehow lucky enough to hear you by audio to flee or drop a light orb or whatever tool they have to detect you.

[marble marten]

since shield bash is 25 Physical Damage (100% Scaling) , whats the theoretical damage u can get it to do

[wary thistle]

Yeah but that doesn't actually fix the issue with rogues. They are completely dependant on the person they're targeting being vulnerable in some way whether it's being low HP or not paying attention. They need to make rogues actually be able to win fights without requiring some kind of outside help

[frosty island]

That is another topic for discussion tho 😄

[wary thistle]

not really, the topic is just how to balance rogues

[frosty island]

Well if they removed true wep from the game it might work without any penalty but atm true wep is in the game and i feel if we was able to move freely around the landmine build would be the strongest rogue build in-game and become the new meta and we would just be nerfed to the ground once again ..

[wary thistle]

if anything rogue isn't the reason true phys is a problem, rangers and bards are

[frosty island]

Probally not but people would cry hell a much if suddenly all rogues could move freely around in hide and the only downside to it was other players ears - every rogue would suddenly as i already told you just wait for players to fight monsters before attacking and without any penalty what so ever other than ears the downside would be a rogue would attack u from behind with a hit or two and just flee untill you could become stealthed with hide again and repeat this progress to the player dies.

[wary thistle]

Yeah but people will always find something to whine about. People whine about the longsword being OP. They just need to stop making such knee jerk reactions to complaints

They also need to stop focusing so much on player counts. Just because a class is played often doesn't mean it's OP

[frosty island]

They will always lisent to the majority of players or the voting system. But hopefully one day i will be able to move freely around as a rogue. I mean it's my biggest wish on the wishlist for dark and darker lols at least it would make the pve/pickpocket build fun again so i could enjoy that part of the game too rather than just relying on only pvp'ing and not care about everythingelse.

[compact thorn]

anyone know if you die to the void in abyss, will goblin merchant let you buy your items back?

[olive socket]

no he cant go down there

[wary thistle]

It's not even just listening to the majority of players. They specifically take how often a class is played into account when nerfing. Every time they bring up rogue nerfs they say that it's a popular class, but it's not a popular class because it's strong. It's popular because it's fun.

[frosty island]

True that probally why rogue not so popular right now because its no fun if all u do is pvp but then again there is players which loves that and those rogues players cry as soon as u mention anything but a buff lols

[compact thorn]

costly mistake on my part then, missed the platform going to wyvern :S

[wary thistle]

+2

[agile ridge]

what is the hidden statue lever for the armourer quest?

[wary thistle]

rogue isn't popular because you can't PvE or PvP

[regal crown]

Can we get a ping cap on servers? Love dying to people with 200 ping and chinese names. They also happen to be the most people still trying to team in hr.....but sure ban organic teaming instead

[frosty island]

You can pve just not better than the other classes and ofc u can't pvp

[wary thistle]

Yeah, but it's not like rogue is especially good at PvE. If you want to PvE you just play warlock

[frosty island]

I agree with you rogue probally the worst at pve but u can do it. It's just not fun and neither is rogue pvp at least in my opinion and thus is why i play the pickpocket rogue but that isn't fun either since i can barely move before im out of steps! So rogue is offically npc's xD

[wary thistle]

Nah, not the worst. Wizard is the worst at PvE because every mob has like minimum 20% magic res

[frosty island]

Oh okay i did not know that tho. But rogue still a npc class

Do you know why all the torches in the dungeon is turned on by default i mean wouldn't it be more cool if just some of them at least was put out.

[wary thistle]

Oh for sure, wiz is bad at PvE but they're busted for PvP

[idle notch]

Hello, what named uniques are possible to drop hr goblin bosses or mystical room?

[wary thistle]

They are, torches are semi randomized whether they're on or not

[frosty island]

Oh i just feel they always are on and i always turn them off but there is like 30 in a room lol

[wary thistle]

Some are always on, that's why i said semi randomized

[frosty island]

In a titel game named dark and darker i feel there should be more dark in the dungeon but that's apparently my job as a fellow npc of the game

[loud furnace]

because i have so much gold but no chest yet

[frosty island]

However i always thought goblins was able to see in the dark but apparently they are not but in the dungeon they are. It's kinda confusing! What are the light truely turned on for = The players. But it should be that way. I mean that is why u even have the fighter with a lantern in some of the pictures of dark and darker

[wary thistle]

It would be nice to have more stealth like that, but it would also get super annoying having to turn on torches everywhere

[frosty island]

No because that's why u have the lantern and torches and such. It should be a dungeon crawler experience because it's part of the DND genre and it's stupid it's not dark in the dungeons when u spawn into the dungeon just my opinion.

[snow cloud]

Does any1 know how long it takes for them to reply to apeals

[wary thistle]

Yeah but it's a PvEvP dungeon crawler. Having lights off everywhere would make camping a huge problem

[frosty island]

Maybe but at least people would have to think more, use their brains and probally won't be able to just rush the boss. But then again. Players always finds a way right - maybe someone in team if not solo with play a support/use light orbs and torces and people could also buy more torces than just having two and drop them on the ground. Battles would be more chaotic and fun probally

[sand meteor]

I WANT A BATTLE ROYALE MODE!

[wary thistle]

That's how the game used to be, and it was awful

[frosty island]

Tbh i really think dark and darker would be more fun if the dungeon was entirely dark and people had more torces with them, lanterns, and pvp and pve would be more chaotic and harder. Which is what the developers are reaching for is it not so?

Also would be interesting or if u could choose a "night dungeon" where the light was entirely put off.

[full gate]

Did they change frost giant berserkers? I'm getting hit by them when I crouch and go left and that's never happened before.

[leaden stratus]

Question, if I'm duel wielding, does the weapon damage stack onto the weapon I'm swinging?

[tulip pine]

this game is so cooked ,

[dusty lodge]

Question, Im shift right clicking the coins that are in my inventory and instead of going into my Coin Bag they are filling up empty slots in my stash. How do I fix that?

[wary thistle]

it's a bug

[timid ridge]

how do i complete the "cloaked secrets: interact hidden lever" quest?

[wary thistle]

Nope, unless you're a fighter with dual weild perks dual weilding is pointless

[leaden stratus]

so move pen and random bonuses are applied? but not the weapon dmg?

[wary thistle]

yeah, any modifiers are applied but other than that, nothing. That includes modifiers from non-weapons like lanterns

[leaden stratus]

interesting, thanks

[wary thistle]

Np, also skill effects apply, so a fighter with sword mastery dual weilding with a 1 handed sword will also get the same affect on any other weapon they're holding

[queen ibex]

I have friends that hate pvp, but like the dark and darker consept. Any chance for a pve only option?

[frosty island]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/587541/turn-off-the-torches-in-dark-and-darker

Make dark and darker dark please im's it's too bright and it hurt my eyes when i am in the dungeon itself. The bats, the goblins, ect. They can see in the dark too. So why is the light on in the dungeon? - There is something called a "torch" in-game and it is used to light up dark areas, just like holding a "lantern" in your offhand and a weapon in the other. It will give us the players the vibe of a more true dungeon crawler experience. So what is the damn problem!? Not to mention it would make it more troublesome for those who endures rushing around the map! Skipping all monsters and chest's! Except the players & bosses!

[jolly eagle]

Is harmonic shield (15 AR and MR) that important on bard? I'm contemplating swapping it out for accelerando (5 additional move speed for 8 seconds)?

The rest of my songs are Rousing Rhythms, Beats and Aria of Alacrity, Ballad of Courage, Unchained Harmony, shriek of weakness, and Lament of Lanquor

[hasty pumice]

I was just fully advantaged in a duel and then my screen stuttered for 2 seconds, causing me to lose. I know this is not my system. Its those moments that make this game feel unplayable

[tulip pine]

So many deaths to pve glitching and horrible spawns , sucks the fun out of the game , almost everyclass feels like it can 1 shot , I may as well just play tarkov at this point.

[cinder charm]

whats yall thought on rangers spaming traps

[cunning sequoia]

No big deal

[cinder charm]

they def a big deal when they work

[weary pasture]

Yeah i mostly fall for my traps so it's something everyone need to worry about

I fall for them because its placement is so good, suffering from success😔

[cunning sequoia]

on a real note tho just compared to some of the other shit in the game traps take at least some level of planning to place and if you've played ranger for a few hours you know how to play against rangers spamming traps its really not that hard. They're not that op it just feels really bad to die to one.

[cinder charm]

have you seen the meta of hr threes rn it ranger on every team spaming traps and camping them

[cunning sequoia]

admittedly i havent really played in a while just been playing casually but i really dont see how thats op either way, just dont go in that room. if you fall for it multiple times its kinda on you

[ancient osprey]

i was not able to track updates on ap system, can anybody explain current system to get ap?

[cunning sequoia]

The AP farming just encourages that campy playstyle i think is the bigger problem

[cinder charm]

its not just one room its all over the map if you expect to get ap you have to clear and move your bound to run in to one if you move. especially if they allow them to place 10 +

not even the ap is built for bosses mostly rn with clearing, but at the same time pvp camping wont get you past green rank rn

[thin cave]

Anyone know when next game wipe is gonna be?

[frosty island]

Make dark and darker dark please im's it's too bright and it hurt my eyes when i am in the dungeon itself. The bats, the goblins, ect. They can see in the dark too. So why is the light on in the dungeon if not only for the players sake? - But there is something called a "torch" in-game and it is used to light up dark areas, just like holding a "lantern" in your offhand and a weapon in the other. It will give us the players the vibe of a more true dungeon crawler experience. So what is the damn problem!? Not to mention it would make it more troublesome for those who endures rushing all around the map! Skipping all monsters and chest's! Except the players & bosses! Make it a true dnd game !

[stiff prism]

Has anyone experienced a bug that kicks you after a match is over and gives you no AP but adds it to your overall counter yet doesnt effect scorebaord

[spare mesa]

how we meet some high-rated teams in normal game? it been several games already

[silent meteor]

What affinity does the armorer let me craft cobalt stuff

[spare mesa]

is match bug?

[frosty island]

Because you or one of your teammates are over 124 gear score

[spare mesa]

me and my teams under 100. we even tried lev 1 character

[frosty island]

The only way for someone to become over 124 gear score then is by finding stuff in the dungeon or by killing someone and take their stuff.

[spare mesa]

maybe, they all have gold clothes, that need to be made i think

[frosty island]

Gold items, as in legendary? That should not be possible. if you and your teammates are truely under 100 gear score it it's not the case i would probally report them for cheating then.

[spare mesa]

yes, we tried 3 new charac, all lev 1

[grand schooner]

do you get any loot from arena or is it just pvp?

[spare mesa]

cuz it happend few games already, we are confusing how we meet them

[frosty island]

With standard gear? As in below 25 gear score? That should not be possible at all then! I would diffently report the player then if u see someone with legendary stuff in a 0-124 gear score bracket

[cinder charm]

arena has a rough gear score it just throws people together based on que time with little to no thought for gear scoe

[frosty island]

However they might be able to take a few things on im not entirely sure how much legendary items will go up in gs.

[cinder charm]

gs only applys really to the dungeons

[frosty island]

I don't think they play arena's

[desert orchid]

is there a cyclops guide but for avoiding the dirt so I can see him

[barren trellis]

Is the spectral knight jump bugged or something??It always chases me.....

[desert orchid]

I heard a lot of people asking about that the new update probably bugged him out and it might be fixed in a few months depending on how many reports there are and if its even real and not skill issue

[silent meteor]

What affinity does the armorer let me craft cobalt stuff

[faint salmon]

does the loot/gear reset?

[ancient tendon]

?

[faint salmon]

game updated and all my loot/gear is gone as if im starting off new

[brittle vault]

https://medal.tv/games/dark-and-darker/clips/iRW1nh8sXtUdvkbx_?invite=cr-MSxZeWgsMjYzMDgzNjcyLA HR Summed up for new players Wait till the end

[agile timber]

When was the last time you played?

[faint salmon]

but im not a new player lol

yeah im not down downloading some ne app thx

[agile timber]

if its less then like 2 months you got screwed

[bleak girder]

Did my first highroller and made it out.. woohoo!!!

[faint salmon]

it has been 2 months

[agile timber]

Epic

[agile timber]

It wipes when a new season starts you have to start fresh every couple months

[faint salmon]

omg thx alot thats all i needed to know

thank you thank you

[agile timber]

Yeah you got awhile till the next one

[faint salmon]

sucks cause no one i know plays pc so im mostly alone.....

[leaden talon]

can we get banned for third partying?

just got threatened to get banned for teaming when i just 3rd partied and continued fight the other guy

[faint salmon]

thats wirid

[agile timber]

Same here i have to stick to solos due to being the only pc guy in my friend group

[faint salmon]

im game if u are?

[agile timber]

No but i would start using steams new record feature just to be safe especially in hr

[leaden talon]

@rugged lintel i got threated to get banned for 3rd partying then continued to fight the other guy. am i protected fom false bans? i have 2k hours on this account

[worn iron]

Am I the only one who feels like the longsword parry hitbox is bigger this season? I felt like you used to be able to squeeze attacks around it, but now it feels near impossible without clipping into them.

[frosty island]

Join the rogue pickpocket gang in HR

[umbral zenith]

Certain weapons yes, others no

[supple condor]

ppl are even threatening "bans" in normals.. i wouldnt worry too much about what ppl in game say as they dont seem to understand the concept of teaming even.. they need to record it and it needs to be multiple offenses before a ban

[random echo]

@spare ravine a bit of a suicide dont you think????

[spare ravine]

When lol? Been dying a lot tonight

[random echo]

like 5 min ago

[spare ravine]

To the fighter? I had to full send that barb cause I had been fighting him forever

[random echo]

"fighting?" you were chasing me around like a bum.

[spare ravine]

I’m not really worried about it lol.. just there for the pvp. Money ain’t an issue for me

[random echo]

ye some quality pvp for sure. is that why you play cleric too? for quality pvp?

[spare ravine]

I play all classes. Just trying to get some clips and content for my YouTube bud. What’s up with the passive aggression? You mad about something?

[random echo]

quality content. your title can be gear checking players in normal lobbies that have no gear vs my full kit and then dying seconds after. i thought it was very funny is all. and yes im very angry about losing my purple zwei

[frozen umbra]

hot take: fighter isn't op, plate armor is.
🧘‍♂️

[spare ravine]

I mean that fighter was 5 hp and he had some decent gear. It was worth it cause if I had gotten him it would’ve been a decent clip. Shitting on a salty barb and juiced fighter u know what I mean

[random echo]

talking to you is only making me laugh more bc you actually think you played well. GG bro rewatch your clip and see what you actually did. i forced the fight and secured your death bc i had nothing to lose lol

[mental zenith]

how long does it take for traders to refresh

[spare ravine]

Im sure I could’ve played it safe. But I play the game to have fun.

Anyways nice talking to u hope I see u in the dungeons again

[random echo]

you spawn rushed me and couldn't catch me once you ran into a bigger fish you folded.

[spare ravine]

Hah ok bud. Get shit on I fought two people and almost killed both of u nice try.

Imagine only being able to run a purple zwei probably should stop typing in discord and go learn how to PvP so u can make some gold pal.

Have a good one wicki

[random echo]

good luck with your "content" 🙂

[spare ravine]

Thank you, I appreciate it!

[meager kite]

@glad thunder Matsuoka Shuzo [松岡修造 ] - あきらめかけているあなた (NEVER GIVE UP!!) [English]

[umbral zenith]

Well that's a sure fire way to get yourself ejected from the discord

[ripe wigeon]

hey

[subtle heart]

how much is dungeon down ap

[silent geyser]

Can we get some actual SBMM in HR?

[ripe wigeon]

rank based match making, not skill based match making

[silent geyser]

Ye that^

[warm basin]

anyone got that reward tree showing all quest rewards? so i can figure out which are worth farming

[frozen umbra]

• Nerf Plate
• Don't make fights shorter
• Nerf range in general
• Nerf perks/skills that are borderline necessary for classes whilst buffing those that are useless as shit (Nerf to Robust, buff to Infernal Pledge, Sprint, All of the bard skills minus memory etc)
  Imo this game will suck if they don't do this shit directly

[finite bane]

dont most ppl like higher ttk? i find it fun in low gs lobbies

[ripe wigeon]

never nerf fighter, adjust all classes accordingly

[delicate ridge]

Yes because it allows for more counter play.

[frozen umbra]

That's stupid, a lower TTK will ruin this game

[errant pendant]

Yoo guys using shrines and stuff gives AP only once?

[ruby silo]

hey does someone know how to tell if troll does a low or high sweep? Does it have an indicator/build up animation?

[ripe wigeon]

bro literally any class can outplay fighter easily just utilize mobility, thats the idea.

[limber jolt]

Yes indeed I don't understand why decrease the ttk which is the thing that makes pvp more fun. Nobody likes to kill or die in one or two hits, it's boring for everyone and nullifies the class skills.

[frozen umbra]

Range?

[ripe wigeon]

yeah, if u hit ur shots, also weapon mastery just got nerfed so a bow in ranger hands are more effective

[frozen umbra]

More effective but you're tankier as a fighter and if you use a survival bow and run true weapon master barely effects it.

[ripe wigeon]

yeah but rangers does have traps

[frozen umbra]

Traps are an entirely different issue

[ripe wigeon]

also skills to hit hard and fast from distance

[frozen umbra]

And fighter has skills to close the distance

Honestly, I don't think fighter is op or anything but if they nerfed commonly used perks and buffed underused ones. It'd really make the game more interesting with more build variety instead of fighter + sprint + second wind + shield/longsword build, slayer or magi sword build.
Ngl fighter is actually the worst example of this cuz of his build variety.

idk bard, cleric and barb.
Cleric - Mhealing for anything that isn't solos and bonk for solos
Bard - "I play music and double up spell memory" with >25 gearscore ppl running lute DPS builds
Barb - Swing KERBLAM!!!!!

[twilit gust]

how do we thing about rogue gets sword mastery? its just not worth it to use short sword or rapier imo. dagger mastery is just way better to use with dagger then a sword.

[silent geyser]

Make rouge the only class with daggers

[twilit gust]

i though the goal is to have build variety

[fluid thunder]

This duo removal is ultimately what will ruin the game and its player base will stutter

[slow ledge]

please remove traps, i think they're affecting my mental well-being. thanks 🙂

[wintry pumice]

There's something i hear a lot of people relate to and i want to talk about. Dark and darker is awful. The players and metas are toxic and unfun. I could list the reasons this game is ridiculously infuriating, but if you've played the game you'll know and the list would go on and on. I hate this game so much more than i could ever explain in words, but i am addicted. I play this game for hours a day, i cant stop, i love it. All the while the whole time it makes me feels so hopelessly angry that i want to KMS

[agile aurora]

addresses 1v3, doesn't address ambiguous wording on HR teaming, classic sdf

[silent geyser]

The variety is pick a Fighter and buy the cheapest max HP pdr gear and throw on a crystal sword like the rest of the folks in the game

Every lobby is 90% crystal fighter and maybe 1 or 2 of the rest of the classes

[umbral zenith]

Is the trolls name SDF? Because he dosnt seem to understand what a skilled V unskilled player means, I have consistently killed higher GS players because I play better than them, just because you have better gear dosnt mean your going to win a fight, it's all about how you play, how you take a fight, knowing when to back off knowing when to push and punish, SDF dosnt seem to understand that

[frail viper]

i think he means the troll in goblin caves

[umbral zenith]

Agreed I think the game plays way better as duo than it does trio, fights in trio are took complicated and hard to navigate when 3 teams all run into each other in a tiny ass room

[distant fiber]

High ttk favors armor and healing. This is a never ending circle of balance hell, which is my guess why SDF is reversing course

[wheat fractal]

It's pretty difficult to tell, but I would avoid getting into that position at all, if he's swinging at you like that you either got hit by a previous swing/attack or are playing too far away

[buoyant heron]

I like high TTK because it makes teamfights more tactical, however, high TTK means higher chance of getting third party, which puts things out of your control

[runic fractal]

Considering you can wiggle while trapped and ranger cant really kill you if ur tanky without shogun. Traps arent problem with crouch jump

[silent geyser]

Until they have 20 of then down

[frail viper]

is parrying bugged? sometimes they hit my sword when im blocking but i still take damage

[tender fossil]

Remove Ranger Trap Buff Ranger. Give us more ranger weapons

[runic fractal]

Yeah i once saw 20 traps in 1 room

[tender fossil]

No, blocking in this game just sucks completely. Not your fault but the games

[frail viper]

that makes sense. im trying to learn longsword but im always getting hit even when i feel like i blocked it. then sometimes i miss the block but it still blocks

[tender fossil]

Yes, even if you block but their hit box still hits you, you take damage

I don’t know why they don’t make it so that if this happens, the damage is negated. But hey, the devs know better than everyone, right?

[frail viper]

facts. had the game 5 days and got a level 43 fighter. been trying to learn cyclops as my first boss but fighting him in squire gear with a longsword seems hard

[tender fossil]

Strafe left, he’s actually pretty easy, don’t even bother blocking until you’ve got his general movement down

[frail viper]

oh strafe left. a vid said strafe right so i did that but i was still getting hit

[tender fossil]

He has three moves he loves to repeat, the down slash, which you jump over. The overhead swing, which he strikes the ground with (just go to the left) and then the uppercut swing

[silent geyser]

Games hit boxes and net code are bad so it's a gamble everytime you try to block or parry

[errant pendant]

can any1 help me, using multiple times a shrine in HR gives More AP?

[frail viper]

thats cool. is there an easy way to practice the fight? rather than spamming goblin cave and losing half my hp running to him. just to die in 20 seconds

[tender fossil]

Not really, you just gotta go there and keep trying, and keep looking at the mistakes you made (and the video you’re following)

You could imagine me trying the wyvern and having to wait 13 minutes to get to the ice caverns for 38 hours straight

[frail viper]

that makes sense. is the game trying to follow tarkov?

[tender fossil]

Not to my knowledge

[spring marsh]

regarding the teaming ban is it still ok if we just aggree to ignore each other and not fight as long as we dont go after someone together?

[frosty knot]

Sounds like a friendly encounter to me so no

[spring marsh]

im not really looking for friends in the dungeon but i just ran into 2 rogues being overly friendly and really didnt want to 1v2 them so i just staid far away from them and then another 2 rogues showed up being friendly am im seriously not gonna 1v4 rogues

like wtf am i supposed to do in that situation?

[dusky sleet]

I know they haven't been announced yet, but are the costmetic rewards we get from merchant quests always from the Goblin/Collector/Tavern master? Or does the merchants who have costmetic rewards change every season? (I only starting playing last season)

[sharp ginkgo]

make red names be able to report team kills, shit is kinda sad when you want a red name for the looks and you get teamkilled by trolling teammates in arena.

[dusk patio]

lf bard to help kill warlord 🙂

[spring marsh]

#lfg-europe#lfg-eurasia#lfg-sea#lfg-eastasia#lfg-oceania#lfg-northamerica#lfg-southamerica

[dusk patio]

na

any tho i dont mind

[shell flicker]

Anyone else getting random stutter in goblin caves?

[chilly glacier]

Nah I speak well in goblin caves

[runic fractal]

Cyclops as rogue, barb, fighter is 3-6 min if you arent stupid as me panicking in last phase on combo attack and hitting my head onto walk bouncing down as he strikes 2nd time

[atomic condor]

I just wan tto throw my two cents out on TTKs with teh announcement, the long TTKs is nothing to do with gear levels and everything to do with playstyles and methods of play that are promoted. ie. door poking. if you want to lower TTK in lower gear lobbies, promote more aggressive playstyles because i'm out here still getting 2-3 tapped and you want faster ttks?

[sullen pilot]

wtf up is with ghost king CONSTANTLY teleporting? like surely theres a CD no?

[spring marsh]

this guy isnt aware of 50+ pdr 200hp barbs pete created

[cinder oxide]

Ghost king teleports more if you stay far away from him

[atomic condor]

you are correct 🙃 if you get that much on barb in squires tho that explains a lot. still though one or two problem children does not warrant changing everything

[sullen pilot]

so in duos you just gotta both hug nuts to butts?; ive killed him plenty of times but last two have been gigga aids with him teleporting back to back to back

[runic fractal]

I always get that stutter first time i enter dungeon and try hitting mob

[cinder oxide]

It is rng, but whoever he is currently aggro’d on, he will try to move towards them if they are far away

[runic fractal]

Im not aware too since i only play squire gear +1 Green or blue/purple weapon and gear up to max 124

[sullen pilot]

does gobo not return utility items like lutes?

[runic fractal]

I played once with 200 gs and guess what i was killed by fighter with 650 gs 3 legendary and full purple. (Not high roll) Also 400 fame i have 3 chars with 40 fame. And i think i remember levels are harder to get furhter

[grizzled citrus]

troll mechanics are so cancer when multiple people come in the room

[fast lagoon]

If somebody knows the player "HannibalMagnusz", please redirect him to me

[stone kernel]

I do not see a real reason to remove duo q, i mostly play either duo or solo bc being an adult with a job getting 3 hommies on a lined up schedule to play is not exactly always doable

[onyx glen]

reading the patch notes and announcements, i really think duo's is the best and if they get rid of that ill be big sad. in a duos matchmaking you can have a chance in any situation. where in 3s, you can get 3v1 and most of the time its an easy win for that 3. if duo's or trio's have to go, i hope duo is kept.

[terse pulsar]

how long till season reset?

[stone kernel]

I agree, i know sdf wants to make 1 v 3 possible but i also know sdf does not like duo queue so, anyone whos a duos player make your voice heard now before he changes it. Id genuinely rather see trios disappear (which i know is controversial but if i had to choose)

[swift trail]

yo can anyone tell me if it's wise to use "weakpoint attack" while fighting wyvern?

[grim vessel]

Wyvern has negative pdr so

[onyx glen]

i think that would align much better with the overall goal of having less teaming while keeping the game win/lose situation fair. its very common in trio for this situation to happen where you are fighting one team as a 2 man, and both of the 3 teams try to kill you first since you are the easiest kill and source of supplies/meds. if this happens in 2's, you always have the chance to survive because even getting one kill or two fast ones can shift the tide of that battle. trio's also makes the ttk of a whole fight last much longer especially with kite and druid meta currently. i think that a deletion to duo is a big mistake and is the best mode in the game. dungeon diving with one person is so much better than solo and even better than just being part of a trio.

[onyx glen]

i sent this message together to him in hopes he would be mindful of players like us

i would say that duo is a lot easier to balance around than trio as well

[inland relic]

What’s a good class to run right now b

[onyx glen]

since having 2 of one class is easier to balance than 3 stacked. druid is a really solid all around good class

druid for all content, anything for trio, rogue/barb/druid for fast solo clears/looting

[frail viper]

whats a fun weapon for fighter. not having good time with long sword?

[austere hazel]

bardiche or halberd

[onyx glen]

second bardiche or spear

[frail viper]

havent got squire too far yet

got like battle axe, arming and rapier. others seem trash

[onyx glen]

rapier isnt a bad one to learn but the two handers are where its at for fighter

[frail viper]

so battle axe then?

[onyx glen]

yeah its the only other real option for <25

do you run the bow as other? good starter combo if learning the riposte/deflect of the longsword is difficult

[frail viper]

yessir. i was learning ripose but it just seems broken. kept getting hit through my sword. or taking damage when i heard the ting sound

[onyx glen]

you have to imagine yourself in third person and try to picture parrying the opponents weapon. basically in first person that means aligning your weapon to theirs and touching it while blocking

[frail viper]

i got it but hear me out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8QXhvV-rlU

[onyx glen]

not the same as just holding it hoping for a timed parry. at least thats what helped me

i understand, the risk for a good successful parry is just that, a risk. same goes for shield blocks. it can be frustrating.

first comment in that video hits it spot on for the cause, you do get used to fighting around that mesh issue but it can be much harder for some with higher latency and can happen in mob groups as well. its actually the reason i ended up swapping around classes

[frail viper]

that makes sense plus im wifi rather than ethernet. not the best internet so im usually around 110 ping

[trail gulch]

anyone know if I bought the game before it went to steam is there a way to get legendary account for free?

[dull yarrow]

They should add gray heavy gauntlets as requirement to that treasurer chest quests.

[onyx glen]

maybe try druid joe, go bear mode when you get latency to fight, go mouse when its time to run or something in between lol even has heals, a summon, and cc lol

[vague narwhal]

what will give more magic damage, will or Magical power

[silent fable]

is running away from people in highroller count as a friendly encounter in highroller?

[tribal shell]

Does anyone by any chance know which account is associated with the player "ladyshakirashakira"

[idle grotto]

Is there a class that utilize arming sword and short sword combo the best

[silent fable]

keep getting abnormal files found and cannot play?

[white ridge]

Market question here for those in the know, whats the best investmeant product in the game, right now im just buying Gold bags, and they have been rising in value lately they were down in the 6k range just a few weeks ago. what are my best options for investmeant that will hold its value well also some higher value investmeants as well. looking for the best recomendations from the gamers out there

[inner patio]

We love poor hunting trap under a body or a non colliding texture in complete darkness and 12 seconds of immobility please buff

[red kindle]

how do you quickly put money in coin purses?

[calm fable]

Can someone help me, I play warlock and have some times had my spells cost 4 hp and seen other have the same but I cant figure out how to replicate it

[red kindle]

Looted gold doesn't just shift click into coin purses? Why?

[calm fable]

I noticed if you have two stack of coins it then autos into the bags i think its a bug

[fluid thunder]

i think turning hte game to focus on PvE is the worst idea possible the PvE in this game is terrible its hilarious i beg they just kill the game

[left smelt]

do you lose items in Arena? I'm pretty sure I've lost rapier and pants, I finished arena with grey "supplied" items

[vital vortex]

Bruh no

[vital vortex]

You do if you didn't find them or craft

[smoky coyote]

the tk ban thing is so dumb i just had my teamate try and kill me off the start so i killed him to save myslef now im banned\

[silent fable]

yea thats a bit shitty, but i guess play with people you know?

[left smelt]

oh, so if I buy them - I lose them

[vital vortex]

Yeah

[left smelt]

what if I get them as a quest reward? it's not "Found by XYZ" then

[amber field]

are they just removing item affixes?

[idle grotto]

what class use the arming sword and short sword combo the best

[vital vortex]

Still lose it, has to have your name on it

[cobalt oriole]

Fighter

[idle grotto]

o

[dire falcon]

Hey i was curious to know where you can find the demon bats in the ruins?:

[winged fractal]

gotta go all the way down to inferno for those

[latent warren]

projectile damage reduction works on fireball etc ?

[dire falcon]

i see, thanks

[winged fractal]

and then depending on which layout you get, there will be either 1 or.. 4? demon bats available on the map @dire falcon

[dire falcon]

whatever gets progress man

[leaden nest]

how many reports I need to get my name red?

[icy mantle]

Is there any Bard Main here?

I wanted to ask what perks i should use and what melee weapon

[high cape]

Jumping should not increase your movement speed this isn't CSGO Surf if anything realistically jumping would slow you down the fact I can't catch up to a warlock jumping is insane

[night hamlet]

cfg

[vapid arch]

it doesn't increase your speed it carries your initial speed and ignores debuffs like casting or healing

[tidal lynx]

how do you play fighter without sprint

[tepid falcon]

how do u whisper someone back mid game?

[stone falcon]

with /r

[frail viper]

how do you dodge the cyclops run thing?

[tidal lynx]

jump jump ccrouch

[frail viper]

crazy trying to do this on 110 ping.

[spiral canyon]

the 6 minute wait time is getting pretty ridonkulous

[spiral canyon]

yeah you can literally be hugging him as long as you jump the first two swings and duck crouch the third youre golden

[frail viper]

whats a good weapon for fighting him as a fighter. just unlocked bard and double axe for squire

[vapid panther]

You're so full of it, it's coming out your ears

[wicked root]

any team to play on arena on south america?

[sage yarrow]

does buff duration increase the life steal ability from demon warlock?

[onyx glen]

no you can only be banned for helping clear content pve or pvp

[frail rampart]

every time I hit right mouse button to cast a spell my game stutters. its 100% of the time always every game every server, no matter what settings i change. its unplayable

[coral rivet]

longsword: nah, doorstuck
goblin archer: 💥🚪

[idle grotto]

how much str stat do i need to get +5 dmg on each of my hit

arming sword-shortsword

[odd cliff]

What is a Bloodsap Blade and how much is it worth?

[night folio]

Str up to 15 is 2% per point then each point above 15 is 1% per.

[solar sage]

Bard 2 taps me with survival bow,we should really shadowbuff them again

[cloud jungle]

any tips for how to dodge the spectral knight leap attack when he's right next to you? Seems like he jumps and comes down immediately with no time to move

[frosty island]

Guys, I imagine that 🦇, goblins, skeletons, etc. Can see in the dark, right?
Why is the dungeon filled with light/torches I mean it’s not giving the feel or vibe of a true dungeon crawler experience and I suggest to turn all the light sources off in-game so pve/pvp will become more chaotic and harder to get from point a to b, people would have to use their torces or lantern’s etc way more and not just for a selling trade to the market

[wary thistle]

Cope harder

[vapid panther]

Oh I'm chillin, but you're still full of it 😄

[agile aurora]

honestly this is what im seeing most, trios is boring as shit and everyone loves duo so idk what hes smoking

[wary thistle]

Druid is an easy class with cheap kits. It doesn't really count as skill expression when the little skill it takes gives you such a massive advantage.

[harsh matrix]

If the wipe really next week?

[vapid panther]

And none of that changes the ridiculous lies you spewed that I responded to

[sand zenith]

No…?

[agile aurora]

?????

[rustic laurel]

i find it interesting that i can hit a druid with a felling axe 6 times and he can somehow just run away in rat form and people call it balanced

[wintry iron]

how much affinity is needed to make frostlight?

[shadow roost]

The solution to allowing outplay potential is not through decreasing the gear gap, it's through fixing gameplay systems so that skill can have more impact. sdf on the complete wrong track

[oak shore]

Its on thurs

[burnt ruin]

Hi, can we really drop a cockatrice feather in normal ? i Killed it like 30 times today and didn't drop it

[stiff sedge]

yes you can get feather

[burnt ruin]

ok I just have bad luck i guess

[stiff sedge]

Yep the bad luck is streaky at times

[subtle heart]

all the crafters that can make frostlight things unlock at 150 affinity

[rapid flint]

I still am not liking this AP rework. It is ass. And now every encounter has to be hostile. Why can't we be friends?

[limber badge]

Because they made it bannable

[bronze grail]

Dont understand how player encounters are supposed to be memorable when they happen so often and are always hostile.

[tropic brook]

yo dis stutter shit is so fucking tragic

[sand zenith]

Pvp game

[wide herald]

Trios is filled with gold farming teamers

[rapid flint]

I know. It is dumb. I understand you want to get people away from gang banging, but it is removing player interactions. Why even have proximity talk? When fight bosses at high levels, you cant rag tab cooperate with people on the lower levels, you can't negotiate a standoff, or anything.

[idle grotto]

How does shield slam works does it have its own animation?
Also is it good

[sinful coyote]

What is the point of crypts in the 3 layer cycle? - Crypts is my favorite and the original map, the problem is that that way the game loop is right now crypts is pointless, Less people make it to the second layer (crypts) from ruins, so PVP is scarce. Crypts has no boss either therefore you don't even really have a PVE objective either plus the loot is not worth the time. Essentially crypts has a 10 minute waiting room you are stuck in before you get to go to Inferno to see the boss.

[idle grotto]

What sword would you pick for sword and shield in fighter

[pastel flower]

Anyone else having issues with Anger Management and Beneath the Surface?

[wary thistle]

My bad you were right, it was way cheaper than 2k gold. Only took me like 600

[sharp solar]

change random modifiers to be PVE bonuses only, then unsquish base stats on gear based on rarity = gg

[distant pivot]

Yow fix your cheaters before doing any other updates just got 2 tapped with 141 hp to a fighter in 7% phys dmg bonus gear with no true dmg stacking,by a arming sword.

game is going to die real fast if nothing is done about the cheaters

[rapid flint]

I agree. It feels so lackluster. Either they should add more sub bosses (wraiths) or better drops (i.e. ore/grass) this season, and add an actual boss or something next season.

[limber badge]

I agree on all points. Feelsbad.

[dry orbit]

dumb question but how do i find gold ore

[haughty mirage]

bruh make everyone able to break doors with two handed weapons, I have a barbarian sitting behind door and just closing it everytime i try to open it

[charred phoenix]

so wich class is meta now? based on what I see being played the most I would go for ranger and fighter

[rapid flint]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Gold_Ore To my knowledge, you get it in the goblin caves only after beating both bosses.

[supple condor]

also golem in ruins can drop it

[weary wind]

Rogue even worth playing rn?

[vapid arch]

the game isn't worth playing

[bitter marlin]

Is the game freezing for you guys?

[rustic laurel]

I agree, i wish i could refund this trash and unbalanced game

[strange olive]

I still play it from time to time, but I'm not going to take it seriously until changes are made

The changes mentioned actually being implemented, along with some ways to fix the over reliance on movement speed and kiting, would go a long way in convincing me to give it another shot

[dry orbit]

@supple condor @rapid flint ty

[strange olive]

Honestly, the warlock and the druid either need complete revamps, or to just be dropped.

They both just do too much very very well

[granite elm]

How many teammates do you need to kill to get a red nickname?

[indigo ginkgo]

Shall we play a game?
Called..Mosh Pit of Toxicity!!
YES!!

[indigo ginkgo]

Bro, you have not been in arenas, both Druid and Lock are suck in there. It's all about Wiz, Cleric, and Fighter.

[strange olive]

Well when you cant just throw hydras on chokepoints and run away until your health gets restored by life drain, or run away as a rat, I'd imagine they get a bit more situational.

But once you get into a dungeon environment... (AKA the originally intended gameplay)

[abstract apex]

by the logic we should drop bard too they're incredibly powerful aswell.

[strange olive]

Nah, from my experience, bards are fine.

I have an issue with their kiting, but that's an issue with kiting as a whole, not bards.

[wild phoenix]

how do i put what voice chat im in, in the lgf cht?

[strange olive]

Right click on the VC, there should be a copy invite link option somewhere or something with a similar name

[wild phoenix]

ok

[glass moon]

what is iron ore used for?

[quaint sluice]

crafting weapons divine weapons pickaxes and lockpicks

[foggy plover]

Lol where is that guy who said "SDF wouldn't remove duos, stop crying about something that hasn't happened yet?"

[quaint sluice]

its funny that he wants to when its the best mode in the game.

[foggy plover]

@glad thunder Your entire understanding of the game is terrible, to be perfectly blunt. I don't agree with anything you've said about it in your recent post. I exclusively play duos and solos and if you're about to do that it will ruin the game for me in a very serious way. Stop trying to remove duos or 'reduce the matchmaking pools'. They. Are. Fine.

If anything the issue with your pools is that you have seriously unbalanced maps. You've essentially ruined how AP works again. One of the maps has one layer, one has two, and one has three, meaning there's no reason to go anywhere but the three-level map for all things, including for loot and not AP.

This was not an issue before you re-added ruins imo. But you need to understand that if duos are removed it won't make people magically migrate to solos or trios. I will literally just leave because I can't play with my friend anymore.

[fringe badger]

when do you unnlock rubysilver for leatherworker

[quaint sluice]

100-150 Affinity

[glass moon]

thank you btw @quaint sluice

[quaint sluice]

np

[foggy plover]

As for TTK. I have never heard anyone but the devs think that TTK should be lower. At any point, really. Is there anyone here willing to defend it?

I do not want a twitch-reflex shooter. That's just not what makes DaD's combat interesting. The methodical slowness is the best part of the game when compared to its hyper-skill focused competitors.

But it's weird you say that then broadly nerf druid at the highest levels of damage, lol. A class which already struggles to compete at anything but the artificial middle gear score bracket.

"The Druids are asking for base damage included so they do more damage with no gear! I know. Let's hugely nerf their scaling so past 25-30 in the stat they fall off and do nothing, even though shapeshifter druid doesn't really compare to any similar classes at high gear score!"

[spark blade]

STUPID ROUGUES CAN PCIK POCKET IN ARENA

[rustic laurel]

ive been 2 shot by druids at 180+ hp barb when they are just in blues and greens, all i can do is run, and as soon as im about to pass a doorway, they just place a treant from across the map

[tame arch]

Can anybody tell me where i use golden key

[vapid arch]

no

[jolly sequoia]

anyone know about error code 21? cant even open the game

[kind sigil]

perfect

[kind sigil]

go back to CoD/WoW

[brave storm]

hot take? get rid of the damage bonus for longsword parry it makes no sense...

[kind sigil]

w/e timmys gotta win fights somehow

[brave storm]

naw its honestly a pretty low skill mechanic thats abused in HR makes no sense its the only weapon capable of a parry and a quick 1-2 is fine but a insane damage bonus for both hits is broken.

[kind sigil]

i know but half the players play fighter so if they didnt have that theyd prob go back to CoD

[brave storm]

fighter would be just fine without the parry 50+pdr is nothing to scoff at but i hear you ig..

[velvet ferry]

wow

[lofty fox]

anybody wanna play gc hr bossing with me

[floral summit]

Just dont get parried

[buoyant rapids]

Skill diff. Don't hit the longsword

[gray lark]

how much is skull key selling for these days?

[quick cloak]

DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO FIND HERBS????? im trying so hard to find but I cant

[brave storm]

6/10 rage bait

[gray lark]

look up a interactive map Whip you can then sort to herbs and where to find them on each map

[jolly sequoia]

anyone know what error code 21 is? cant play the game at all

[quick cloak]

Thank u bro

[vapid arch]

https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/Crypt-01-HR

[glossy flax]

are bards op or is it just me

[buoyant rapids]

[buoyant rapids]

just you massive skill diff. especially in solos with like +8 phys healing and ale not op at all.

[glossy flax]

lul

[solemn shore]

I used it and didn’t get anything, it’s a scam

[harsh matrix]

is there brackets in arenas if you group que

[main garden]

Hey man it’s just part of the class. I think you need to appreciate the skill required to play 8-10 seconds of buffs that last the whole match and near double your murder ability.

[indigo ginkgo]

? If we have an item that is not found by anyone, will that item be lost on death in the Arena?

[wary crystal]

does luck potion enhance the chances of a better drop from a boss?

[buoyant rapids]

cmon they silently nerfed the +2 all to 120s instead of 240 only 2 minutes of buffs instead of 4

[main garden]

Good thing that song takes .8 seconds to play

[tulip pine]

Everyone go play dungeon borne or tarkov instead

[velvet ferry]

let us play the game and cry about it

[obsidian beacon]

How many fucking times am I supposed to run after people. I pace myself, I keep the best range for me, im jump attacking and dodging arrows and spells and all sorts of shit. All for the guy to run through a whole module, pop phantomize or shut a door and then I have to deal with all the mobs. I can only carry so many axes/knives that deal no damage.

[tulip pine]

@velvet ferry do what u want just telling people to go play other games where devs dont have mob glitches from day one still in XD

[midnight ember]

does bloodsap blade scale off magical healing or physical? or does it not scale at all

[obsidian beacon]

Fighter weapon mastery did not need a nerf, its a fucking required perk so that we can use bows to counter all the p*ssies that stay ranged and run in this game.

[midnight ember]

yes it did, go to a 400+ gear score HR and see 3 or 4 fighters with rondels and bucklers still shitting on people even after the nerf, it's oppressive

[velvet ferry]

best way to fix it : remove range / magic

[obsidian beacon]

Its oppresive because those two weapons give the lowest movespeed reduction. Fighter will lose if he cannot catch the guy. Rondel Fighter came about because of the same thing everyone fights every match. A guy throwing ranged attacks and then running away.

[midnight ember]

you don't get to have your cake and eat it too, you cant be decked out in heavy pdr, with all movespeed shit on, with a rouge weapon and a buckler, it's fucking stupid and is going to get hard nerfed soon methinks

[smoky tangle]

while also being a better ranger than ranger

[obsidian beacon]

Then stop running away, and you might see different loadouts

[midnight ember]

i main rogue, running and kiting is what i do

[smoky tangle]

plays fighter and wants the mage to stand still interesting

[obsidian beacon]

I can only carry so many axes/knives. If I want to fight the mage I HAVE to take bow

[midnight ember]

believe it or not getting shot by a crossbow does hurt like hell

[smoky tangle]

so your solution is let the fighter have the best of all worlds i see

[midnight ember]

sprint, busted, weapon mastery still busted, fighter has literally the best perks in the game and still they bitch....lol wut

[obsidian beacon]

I should not HAVE to take a certain playstyle or kit just to have a chance in pvp

@midnight ember Then I have to sit through a long ass reload animation that slows me making it easier to be blasted via fireball or CoP

@smoky tangle Fighter is forced to be best of all worlds due to the meta. I HAVE to take bow. I HAVE to run PDR to not lose half my health when chasing you

[brave storm]

theres no way a fighter is complaing abt his class rn... are you new around here bud?

[smoky tangle]

fighters cant stand the fact that other classes get to play the game

[obsidian beacon]

Im complaining about how people throw away their clothes to move faster then just kill you with ranged attacks

[brave storm]

bro has 50+ pdr longsword parries longbows a sprint ability and a ability that brings back 50% of his health STILLL COMPLAINS

[obsidian beacon]

Not running 50+ pdr or longsword but yap more

[smoky tangle]

"im not running the best builds so its fine for me to complain"

[brave storm]

a personal problem defintly not mine

[obsidian beacon]

Straight up, that is what Ive been saying this whole time. If I dont run straight meta, I cant catch anyone. I just lose

[midnight ember]

seriously i build around 65 to 70 armor penetration with weakpoint and it still is close every time, also that usually costs about 2.5 k

[charred crescent]

How much do golden keys go for right now?

[midnight ember]

8k ish?

[smoky tangle]

so how does cleric do it then? or barb? how does ranger feel when fighter is better with a bow than them? how does bard do anything as they are worse than both with the bow, rogue is dog shit so they can complain about anything at this point

[brave storm]

just fyi a base skit fighter with a fine cuirais light gauntlets a armet plate pants and lightfoot boots has 2 less move speed then a barbarian with padded tunic lightfoot boots loose trousers a visored sallet that gives agi and rivited gloves 2 LESS MOVE SPEED so i dont know what your yapping abt.. dont expect to catch up to wizards and rangers thats why u have a bow.

[midnight ember]

bard is busted too, a good bard will shit on everyone lol this guy must be new

[granite summit]

Did you know that longsword can one shot barb

[brave storm]

this exactly..

[smoky tangle]

guy just wants to run down wizards and rangers with them not being able to fight back

[brave storm]

bro wants to beat a rouge in a foot race

[wary crystal]

You'd enjoy meeting me in the dungeon, I play as a combat warlock, I curse and push with either halberd or longsword.

[midnight ember]

based chad. I approve

[wary crystal]

I hate the women's reproductory organs that don't know what having fun in a melee fight means.

[obsidian beacon]

" dont expect to catch up to wizards and rangers thats why u have a bow"

Bruh, thats what Im fucking saying
If I DONT run bow, if I DONT cary axes and knives to rival that of a d*cks sporting goods. I am fucked. They push just enough to have LoS and then run whenever you push
God forbid you corner a warlock since their phantomize is a get out of jail free card

[midnight ember]

ahh yes, the good ole womb rompers

[smoky tangle]

what im hearing is you just want a game where 2 people just run at each other and the better fighter wins

[brave storm]

If I DoNNTT bro... its your class WHY IN GODS GREEN EARTH WOULD YOU NOT RUN A BOW YOUR A TANKIER FRONTLINE THEN ANY OTHER WITH A LONGSWORD THAT CAN PARRY ONE SHOT BARBARIANS ANNNNDDDD you get to use a bow and dwindle their health before you strike with your sprint

[midnight ember]

if you give the woodsman a reacharound he will sell you special throwable dildos that make you one shot anyone

[subtle goblet]

Brought to you by diddy

[tulip pine]

Just look down guys

[swift cargo]

I might be a bad ranger but a full PDR fighter feels like he can walk into my trap, second wind and still beat me in the ranged fight while standing still

[rapid ravine]

Why not cap the number of heals you can bring into games? It’s kinda absurd everyone brings two rows of pots and bandages even down in 124 gs

[smoky tangle]

thats because fighter is the better ranger

[midnight ember]

with 1000 bottles of baby oil LOL

[subtle goblet]

😂

[wary crystal]

that's because some classes don't have the warlock curse mastery and cannot heal off of mobs you wanker
in complete honesty you should try bringing 2 rows of heals as well

[midnight ember]

it's all good in the hood Hilda, honestly i would try messing with the other classes, learn hpw they play, then exploit their shortcomings

[blissful terrace]

trynna sell gear dm me if your looking for somthing

[silent fable]

running from battle should result in automatic death

[wary crystal]

there's a thing called the marketplace, unless you're attempting R-M-T then you should be ashamed.

[wary crystal]

why would that be a valid solution? how should a wizard compete against a barbarian without running away? that'd break the game in itself, the concept even.

[obsidian beacon]

@smoky tangle Honestly yea. I think there is alot of skill expression when it comes to melee fighting. It's similar to chiv/mordhau. Plenty of mind reads to be made if someone is going for a parry/block or baiting an attack. I would love for the community to explore melee combat but most of the lobby just runs.

@brave storm my argument is that the movespeed meta is forcing the game into a ranged fest. You HAVE to run bow to properly damage the wizard/ranger/warlock. If the map isn't in your favor then you can't push with sightlines. Even when you do get close though, they turn tail and run. God forbid you dont carry 5 stacks of axes on you, otherwise they get away. You just try and deal whatever damage you can to stop them from healing.

It doesn't feel good when I'm doing everything I can to chase him down and I get screwed over because I:
a) decided not to bring a bow
or
b) brought 2 axes less than I should've

forgive late response, trying to show the game to someone

[smoky tangle]

they have said they will address the whole speed meta thing soon in the last QnA but i dont expect it to fix the whole ranged will just run from you the whole time because thats how it works for ranged classes you cant play mage into fighter without running

[silent notch]

where are golden chest??

[lofty fox]

anybody wanna play hr gc and go bossing for a bit?

[rapid ravine]

I main rogue lol. It is just a bad meme. It perpetuates this attrition war long TTK the devs hate. It would also be better for economy by forcing higher quality pots into games and not at least 2 columns of full stacks of poor quality

[rapid ravine]

Also, the only thing im wanking is your dad

[wary crystal]

all I can tell you in the current state of the game - you snooze you lose

[rapid ravine]

Is =/= should be

[wary crystal]

He says thank you.

[brave storm]

you should always bring a bow, your a fighter... besides that im a barbarian main i mean brother your singing to the choir here except i dont even have the option to bring a bow i have to heavily rely on multiple stacks of axes and achillies strike OR a huge mistake on their end to even touch them thats the game and thats the class i chose of course theres a MS meta always has been atleast now its capped at 330 so you do have a chance to compete depending on your gear, in HR i ussualy shoot for about 106% MS as a barbarian so i stand chance and even then solo it ussualy dosnt work out i pefer playing duos with a wizard.... at the end of the day brother it IS the game and YOU are choosing to play that class. fighter heavily needed weaponry master brought back to its original state and if you disagree stop playing only 24gs lobbies.

[midnight ember]

pics ❤️

[blissful terrace]

i cant get shit to sell in market place been trying all wipe

[brave storm]

your pricing your stuff to high xDD

[wary crystal]

what @brave storm said

[rapid ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/495982331366998037/1293114716113076287/1725460489358916.gif

[hallow reef]

Does anyone experience often crashes or is it just me?

[summer yoke]

I can send u a video of common herb locations, it helped me alot

[stoic adder]

Do you still lose gear losing in arena?

[thin cave]

Anyone know when wipe is?

[thin cave]

Only if it wasn’t found by you or crafted by you.

[stoic adder]

Thank you

[earnest silo]

They need to make minted crafted items require looted ores and materials.

[sour prism]

does anyone know how to do the wyvren? like specifically how to avoid getting suck into middle during phase 1 and 2? im standing behind a crystal and bandaging but i somehow keep getting pushed out of it and dying ot the dragons frost breath? can someone help explain how i avoid getting pushed out?

[errant prawn]

What should i be building as a ranger on my gear for ex. agility, PDB, etc.?

[smoky tangle]

question for arena does your gear have to be found by your specific character or does it count for your account

[sour prism]

specific character eh

[smoky tangle]

dang thank you though

[thin fulcrum]

They need to make quest rewards be found or useable in arena. Also if they want to even the playing field vs gear, shouldnt they bring back weapon dmg stacking on gear? Problem solved.

[stark flare]

anyone wanna buy a fully bis purple ox pendant

[sand palm]

so traps break on their own?? i trapped a barb and he just dodged my arrows and the trap broke on its own and i was cooked.

[verbal gust]

BASICALLY I LOVE FREAKBOB

[rapid ravine]

Why does gold not go into containers automatically anymore

[summer yoke]

stats?

[sand palm]

???

[harsh matrix]

yes they break on there own

[hard thicket]

#gut solos not duos

[sand palm]

so like if i use green traps will it atleast last longer

[harsh matrix]

yes

[harsh matrix]

gold one traps for 26sec

[tender cosmos]

So would you survive ghost king slam with phantomize

[ruby furnace]

how do you craft the spectral coinbags?

[unreal obsidian]

are the matchmaking changes in affect/effect? (not an english major)

[silent notch]

anyone wanna help me kill and quest in ruins and inferno?

[idle blade]

Is 1 point of move speed or .5% move speed bonus better

[stark flare]

True phys damage, 3 phys power, 5 hp

[valid edge]

anyone know if void blade magic damage scales?

[quaint sluice]

I get a fucking grimsley just to no get the fucking item?

[austere hazel]

People that turn off voip and just type the whole time make group content so insufferable

[spark talon]

can someone tell me how much a soverign ghostblade is worth? with double damage and magic damage bonus and magic pen

[loud furnace]

i have so much gold that i cant collect gold from the stuff ive sold but i also dont have enough to buy a chest. what should i do? turn all my pelts into bags? but if i do that then i lose out on gold bc i would have to buy the wolf pelts

[radiant grove]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/587489/add-preset-buying-from-auction-house vote pls ❤️

[terse sable]

does any1 know if banshee is the same in HR in terms of mechanics ?

[rare venture]

Start running and losing gear, clears up stash issues real fast.

[solid coyote]

buy gold ingots and store those instaed of loose gold

[runic turtle]

Buy keys

[solid coyote]

why tf isnt arena always up?

[ruby furnace]

how do you craft the spectral coinbags? I have the leatherworker dood at loved but I don't see it in this craft list?

[ocean gale]

Just saw a three man teaming in Ice Abyss HR. Hopefully they all get banned, but doesn't seem this new method is working on people yet LMAO

[runic turtle]

I keep seeing ppl saying they got banned for third partying lol. But who knows if they’re lying or not

[ocean gale]

Yeah I could maybe see it. These three were ALL in the same module, the barb of the three tried to attack me and I scared him off, then after I escape I just see them all looting around together in the top middle module like wtf

[white sierra]

I’m losing my mind trying to get the inferno boss quest done , it’s really unbelievable how I have to play 30 mins before getting there and die 1 hit to the boss, note I’m still trying to figure them out and yes I have watched videos, it’s really painful , are they gonna change that soon ?

[plush lynx]

could someone pretty please sell me 1 rubysilver

[summer yoke]

ye im too poor to buy that

[terse sable]

does anyone know if banshee has the same mechanics in HR

[plush lynx]

I'll overpay in gold

[proper lily]

kill spectral knight for me ill give for free

[plush lynx]

☹️

[proper lily]

ive been learning spec knight all weekend cant get it done

[stark flare]

yeah its bis bis lol

[summer yoke]

Well it would be bis if it was unique, its a bis epic piece.

[stark flare]

Well yeah as a purple

[summer yoke]

Bis means best in slot, but im not gonna nerd out over a fuking definition, the pendants godly

[stark flare]

Well it could be 6 hp instead of 5

[dull tulip]

we need a snapshot of the persons inventory who got cheated on and be able to give back that inventory in a lost and found type thing with a message "Justice Served!" and all the items sent back to the people who reported those cheaters at that current time those incentives of property will end up back in the players stash/lost and found.

[silver flame]

bis could be green lightfoots with max add ms its dependant it could be a godly blue or a trash legendary the blue would be better esp with min maxxing

[shrewd glacier]

So for spectral knight, are you just meant to stay off of the elevated parts of the room?3 Seems like it messesup the duck

[halcyon coral]

Is anybody that uses AVG having a threat warning pop up when they launch DaD? It's telling me that TavernWorker.exe is attempting to access my login credentials in Chrome.

[bold marsh]

I had a super duper trash legendary 😦 that shit hurts

[bold marsh]

It would be cool if they had a little safe area you can load into and summon bosses/enemies to practice

[storm stratus]

Are there cosmetic quest reward yet? Or will there be this season?

[storm stratus]

It gets easier dude, just don't give up. You'll reach a point where you can do bosses with 1 hand while sneezing. Just takes alot of trial and effort :]

[unborn sedge]

why does confronting the darkness no longer give the stash to all characters? is this as intended? honestly who is doing a chain of 9 quests (about 20 hours of consistent grinding) on more than one character? in a single season?

[storm stratus]

it was like that last season too so it's here to stay prob, just do it on your main

[wary crystal]

as a rogue, when I use the skill hide fighting cave troll, does he reset his hp?

[runic turtle]

Usually the last quests added

[runic turtle]

Yes, if they run to middle and stand there it resets

[wary crystal]

oh so that's why I couldn't kill him for 10 minutes! Kind of bullshit, but alright

[unborn sedge]

last season it most certainly was not this way, thats why I brought it up. it only came with the cumulative favor thing for questing. it should really go back to the way it was before. one stash on one character is not worth all the questing required

[stone haven]

hybrid cleric lfg. geared

[storm stratus]

Unless im misunderstanding which quest you did, the lich boss quest from last season only gave me a stash on one character, i didn't recieve it on all of em. I know it did cuz I was annoyed

[granite summit]

Longsword needs to be removed

[austere flame]

FIX THE POS SERVERS

[fringe folio]

We looked into it, no

[granite summit]

Like is there no way to beat a longsword unless you have range

[boreal ledge]

You can also try the no range approach, pretty hard to parry a dagger