game-discussion

[sand zenith]

Go back even further, pre play test era!

[burnt marlin]

Literally. They seem to think we enjoy having to click more buttons

[sleek hedge]

FOR POTION TRIALS QUEST DO IT IN RUINS

[loud moat]

Too true! Anything is better than current

[elder nebula]

we need a squire cape like torn cape or smthn

[neat pilot]

Whats the easiest class to learn/most forgiving and the least forgiving class

[loud moat]

They are all easy the game is easy

[bitter python]

Is the Potion Trials quest (where you take all four potions in one session on ice cavern) bugged? I just used all 4 potions but only got credit for healing

[primal falcon]

easiest is probably Fighter pdr build

[sleek hedge]

@bitter python do it on ruin

[primal falcon]

least forgiving probably Ranger, if you get caught you die and you need good aim

[radiant hill]

so is the leaver penalty thing a bug?

[stark summit]

Can anyone lmk how much a firefly abdomen is worth atm?

[bitter python]

So annoying running knowledge kit as my barb to do this stupid quest 😦

[rain hearth]

why is giving ban for exiting arena in end of match?

we lost and they gave me ban for 5 minutes

[unreal obsidian]

Bug

[spring zealot]

have they fixed the ban timer for arena

[rain hearth]

understandable, it is so annoying

[summer plinth]

Yo the new alchemist quest doesnt work

[steel bluff]

Undo Ballance patch, fire all devs who do balancing, hire competent devs to balance combat and fix lag. Profit

[fluid thunder]

Is rubysilver crafting out yet

[slate rampart]

hi guys how can i link my blacksmith dark and darker account to my steam

[agile flame]

people are abusing that crafting bug

people with frostlight in arena is deplorable abusing the crafting bug should be banned

[twin ore]

you cannot for now

[dapper junco]

Yeh they're working on a new method to allow you to do that again, there was an issue before so they disabled it for now

[neat pilot]

Should i get cleric? I dont know what to play

[dapper junco]

If you have no preference pull a name out of a hat

Do you have any idea of what you prefer, magic, melee, spells, mixes?

[night hound]

i play arena, last alive on last round, die, leave, get penalty. What?

[agile flame]

I GET PENALTY AFTER EVERY ARENA GAME WIN OR LOSE

[dapper junco]

Yeah it's bugged atm lol

[narrow sapphire]

Nerf to fighter, druid and buff to rogue 💀 💀 🗡️

[brazen jasper]

??? just escaped without going in an exit think i triggered it through a wall or smth

[sly cipher]

i have penalty only by lose

[wind venture]

potion trials do you need to do that in ruins or ice cavern since people say its bugged?

[brazen jasper]

bro just queued with the same troll as yesterday how do i get this guy banned bro is spamming games just to hit teamates low and place traps MEATNPOTATO is name

[hard rock]

THIS GAME IS ASSSSSSSS

[hard rock]

Was it maybe an accident? Or no?

[shrewd whale]

Would I get potion trials credit for drinking an invis pot if a teammate does? im dumb barb and dont wanna bring knowledge gear cuz im dumb

[mild jay]

games going downhill guys 😦

[young raven]

having a 3-4 week wait on high roller is the reason. who thinks thats a good idea

[sinful vigil]

literally doesnt help that 75% of quests are on the same map

[brazen jasper]

no

[hard rock]

Did he apologize?

[brazen jasper]

yesterday they blocked the spawn door and dropped trap in dorrway and beat every low until they died to adds had to kill him got penalty

[main raven]

It needs more melee potential and less ranged potential. Insane that casterlock, formerly a pretty niche build, is now the meta

[lavish ivy]

Yea no adding a new map to the Game is not an excuse to not force you to complete every 4th quest somewhere else

[long inlet]

anyone know how to get the alchemist potion quest to work?

[sinful vigil]

Im still on armor scrap 💀 legit feels like doing jagers quest on a fresh wipe of tarkov, litterally everyone and my mom is trying to farm that ONE room

[magic panther]

is the potion trials quest bugged for anyone else?

[sinful vigil]

you have to do it on ruins, also if you have a stack and pick up a looted potion and merges in the stack and becomes handled

[long inlet]

yeah potion trials wont work for me either

[magic panther]

wait you have to do it on ruins even though it says ice caves? smh ironmace

[sinful vigil]

thats what people are saying

[knotty bough]

5 minute leaver penalty on my first arena match :/

[magic panther]

thats fucking troll, ty for the info though ill try it

[sinful vigil]

arena is ass rn anyway tbh still too much pve and half the time its about who looted more between rounds

[lime bone]

remove expressman. prices too high. too inconsistent. too tedious. it's useless. either make it not suck and make it not tedious or remove it from the game

[sinful vigil]

expressman being able to lose your quest items is a sin

[lavish ivy]

Ever heard of Pocket Watch PTSD?

[lime bone]

just lazy game design. the fact you have to click every item. the fact if you are last in you cant do anything. the prices. it's just trash

[sinful vigil]

same as that i suppose as well customs is a dumpster for the first few weeks of wipe

[void mountain]

Expressman prices are like nonxistent

[sinful vigil]

in fact i think going to the armor scrap room is pretty equivalent to trying to go to dorms on customs

[lavish ivy]

Absolutly, Operation Aquarius and Farming Part 3 are an absolute bloodbath for the first 4 weeks

[knotty bough]

going to dorms is more consistent than finding armor scraps tbh

[sinful vigil]

yea at least the quest items are guranteed you just have to leave with them, im lucky if i get ONE armor scrap a raid if i dont get mogged by the barbs and warlocks rushing it

[lavish ivy]

Ngl ive found more GPUs in the meantime than Armor Scraps

[sinful vigil]

The fact its on a character that has gloves essential to almost every spell casting class is actually crazy to me.

[tranquil burrow]

All quests done on Tailor, no Rubysilver Vestments available to craft, what am I missing? ? ? ?

[lime bone]

quests like firefly emblem ultra rre from one mob on one map is trash

[fading pecan]

you still can't craft them

[tranquil burrow]

No shit! Why?

[sinful vigil]

I just want my damn rawhide gloves so i can actually take useful spells in as cleric

[fading pecan]

they still haven't added the rest of the missions

[fallen sparrow]

why are firefly abdomens going for 7k???????

[tranquil burrow]

How are there Rubysilver Vestments in the marketplace to buy then, I am wearing a set right now. How do I craft them?

[lavish ivy]

Im still stupified by the fact we still get low to mid quest rewards but no additional affinity for doing the quests over and over, id atleast take more Gear per quest reward or increased Gold amounts but have the quest progress be accountwide, unlike just affinity.
Especially because some quests are alot easier to complete on certain classes than other quests, which would also encourage playing more than one class unlike the current state where your best bet is to take one really strong class like Fighter, Warlock, Ranger or Bard and complete every quest on those while the others just get the "free" ones out of the way

[fading pecan]

there is a reward that give you a rubysilver vestment

[tranquil burrow]

Ah ok, thanks.

[main raven]

CoP does 30 damage baseline. Thats unheard of for that spell, dude

[sinful vigil]

quests should just be account wide, no reason to have someone go through the quests in the wipe 9 times

[lavish ivy]

give IM a month then it will be 10 times

[sinful vigil]

Great can't wait to see how they make monk and sorcerer balanced, cause from experience playing regular dnd and baldurs gate, good freaking luck

[magic panther]

can confirm it worked in ruins

[lavish ivy]

If we go by the Logic of the last 3 releases Sorcerer is probably going to be a straight upgrade to wizard

[sinful vigil]

if they were smart they would make it a wizard counter with counterspell and wild magic

[lavish ivy]

Daring today, are we?

Inb4 Sorcerer has a spell sequencer and will be the new Meta because that will absolutly delete somebody

[sinful vigil]

🫡 just trying to do my part in stopping this shitty dev cycle. theres a foundation of classes directly countering other classes, but they either arent leaning into it enough or they dont have enough characters to have direct counters for everyone

[fallen sparrow]

why is firefly abdomen worth so much? what is it for?

[lavish ivy]

Tbh if they really have trouble with it that much they could just follow the Free 2 Play Runescape balance of Melee>Ranged>Magic>Melee and then go into more specific features with each class

[sinful vigil]

which also begs the question tho, do you want for it to just be im playing this class so i need to run away or avoid these specific classes, or do you just want to keep playing favorite of the week and have everyone cry about ironmaces new favorite development endevour

[vital pollen]

Where do I find living armor for leather smith quest?

[loud moat]

IM said they will randomly make classes OP so that class mains have fun is what it is just accept it ig

[lavish ivy]

Well id rather favor class counters, because if we theoretically make it harder to traverse rooms for everybody by for example putting an end to the movespeed meta and retaining your movespeed then alot of the modules would work alot better within a PvP balance because then positioning, flanking and planning ahead would reward you alot more than it currently does

[fallen sparrow]

what is firefly abdomen for? please I'm dying

[loud moat]

Ruins doesnt work at all because you just get W keyed over modules

[void mountain]

Nothing in this game should counter anything when theres a solo mode
They should just have ways to play against eachother and it be about who plays better
That will never happen though

[sinful vigil]

YES thank you, its also the same way in dnd, almost like every game is supposed to be designed like that cause its fun

[lavish ivy]

Not if is harder to traverse rooms in the first place, thats why I put it there

[loud moat]

Ruins would hve to get reworked again again

[lavish ivy]

The Jokes on you it is overdue for a Rework because idk what the person responsible was smoking but somehow they decided about 7-10 15% chances for 1 out of 5 steps for an entry level quest advance was a good idea lmfao

[sinful vigil]

on a map that even if you do finish the quests all of your others are on it

[loud moat]

O no I dont disagree I think ruins needs to get removed until its reworked again. Too easy for teams to just ignore every room by jumping over walls and run through whole map

[sinful vigil]

ruins is fine, the quests are the thing that need the rework and ruins needs to be the second layer if its going to be that big and open im sorry, having an open concept map with a bunch of ways to sneak through rooms makes the second layer freaking empty after 10 mins, awful design choices

[loud moat]

Ruins is not fine at all IMO

[lavish ivy]

That and the aspect that it is incredibly easy to spawnrush other players not only on Ruins but also on Goblin Caves which is kinda breaking the PvEvP aspect because it removes the PvE part out of the equasion.
Combine that with the aspects that you not only have 3 out of 4 quests on that map and the second and third floor have a 50/50 chance to not be the layout that you require because for some reason those quests cannot use Coordinates as a completion requirement and you get what the Boondocks would consider "A TOTAL MF'ING DESASTER"

[loud moat]

Literally playtest era teams steamrolling through map ignoring PVE

[sinful vigil]

trust me if not every quest was on it and ruins was the second layer, NO ONE would complain i promise

[loud moat]

Ya the problem is all the teams steamrolling W key through map. Ofc it wouldnt be a problem on 2nd level cause thered be no one on the map

[plucky jackal]

Did they nerf the arena drops?

[hard rock]

Why?

[lavish ivy]

Because if youre good enough you can ignore the entire PvE on the map, which is detrimental for a PvEvP game

[loud moat]

Jumping over module after module W key ignoring PVE is not good for game

[sinful vigil]

specially on the first layer with them guranteed to find a fight and ruin someones chances

[loud moat]

Anyone I had gotten into game from playtest era likes the map but feels like they just get ran down every game and stop playing

[lavish ivy]

And then having to wait 6 minutes so that they can have 15 seconds of Gameplay because by this point the probably completed most of the non-ruins quests

[sinful vigil]

and then getting the wrong layout for the castle so you wait 15 mins to maybe not die in hell to the super charged nightmares this wipe

[wanton jolt]

How much affinity do u need to craft purple weapons

[fallen sparrow]

what is firefly abdomen for? why is it 7k on the market?

[lavish ivy]

Hell that would require to actually get to the castle.
I repeat myself but considering how big the problem is I see it as justified, beeing able to Spawnrush instead of having to clear the room you spawned in is quite gamebreaking, because half the Game is beeing bypassed

[lilac solar]

anyone know how to do alchemist quest it isnt working

[loud moat]

Preach

[unkempt oriole]

anyone else getting leaver penalties on Arena every time you exit to lobby?

[lime bone]

so fun to run ruins 70000 times to get one firefly abdomen

[hard rock]

So the game is screwed?

[loud moat]

Honestly yeah probs

[sinful vigil]

theres so many quit moments and the player count is so far down this wipe when it should have stayed double for that week when the wipe dropped, yes they game is screwed if they dont get their shit together

[hard rock]

Any other reason it's screwed?

[exotic pulsar]

what does a red name mean?

[loud moat]

Wym, its a bunch of compounding factors

[sinful vigil]

at least i can go play arena oh wait i get banned for 200 seconds, nvm.

[wanton jolt]

How much affinity do u need to craft purple weapons

[hard rock]

Could you explain these to me?

[sinful vigil]

if you scroll up we hit on that actually

[sinful vigil]

@gritty tusk

[fading pecan]

did they fix potion trials or is it still bugged?

[flat gust]

Hey does anybody know if i block someones account does that also block them from queing with me in the future?

[wind venture]

Why is a support class the best class in the entire game? (Bard in solo duo trio

[lavish ivy]

Pretty much, Movement speed beeing an absolutly stagnant meta, jumping retains your movespeed which breaks the combat system in multiple aspects, alot of PvE enemies beeing cheesed because of how easy it is to stand on something they cant hit you or pathfind to, 125+ Gearscore/High Roller having zero skill in their PvP aspects because 8 out of 10 pvp encounters are decided by who has the better Gear setup, little to no weapon balancing because only a few weapons are actually viable in comparison to others, just to name a few

[loud moat]

My message is getting blocked for some reason

[hard rock]

@lavish ivy why don't the devs listen to us then

[sinful vigil]

enemies being cheesed is the worst part about this game cause it makes it so they cant properly balance it easily without reworking pathfinding, abilities the mobs have (like being able to mantle or jump even), or just leaving the enemies as hard and stupid as they are.

[lavish ivy]

And most importantly, development wise nothing really happens to address these problems, the most you see in terms of "balancing" is a few numbers beeing pushed around depending on how they feel about it, which might seem like its working on the first glance, but once you are aware of all the other issues it is clear that they are not doing anything against any problem which goes way deeper.
The Devs dont really listen to alot of these concerns because they have a Bias towards people that have enough influence (streamers or their own staff for example), and aslong as they dont really bring those problems towards the developers they dont really care about them

[loud moat]

Didnt even have to get into two classes break the game for trios and a third is by far the strongest melee for two whole wipes without nerfs, ignoring huge amounts of the game by bypassing modules, empty crypts and inferno lobbies, rampant cheating, goblin merchant gamba, economy being cooked by cheaters, biggest dupe in the games history this wipe, tons of exploits, theres so much it cant be listed

[boreal fox]

Any tips for high roller cleric?

[loud moat]

Never forget sdf going on jays stream and wizard getting turbo buffed the very next patch

[hardy dirge]

PSA TURNS OUT THE GAME IS UNFINISHED WHO KNEW

[compact moon]

penalty bug is so bad

[loud moat]

Hit your heals and you auto win by existing if they dont have a cleric. Play w bard and demonlock and enjoy free games

[primal falcon]

I love dark and darker, but its following the same road that hardcore pvp full loot MMOs go

[sinful vigil]

sdf no offense just doesnt have a grasp on what this game is supposed to be and is forcing quick kill times in a slow paced game

[loud moat]

There arent really "supports" in this game. Is it a support class if he has 160 hp +8 true 30% as 310ms 40pdr 25mr

[primal falcon]

experienced players eat the newbies, newbies rage quit, game slowly dies out

[hardy dirge]

I think everyone should just get good and stop crying

[sonic stump]

give warlock summonable mobs to fight for it instead of curses like any other game with the exact class

[zinc cradle]

Ive never loved dying so much and wanting to get back into queue to try something new and get better

[loud moat]

While I agree most people need to get good, that mentality is what kills new player retention especially when theres huge systemic issues

[sinful vigil]

that lasted maybe one wipe for me then it gets old quick

[hardy dirge]

Nah bad players kills it players just need get good

[lavish ivy]

Quite literally, as it stands right now the only realistic way this Game would be safed is is we get another SPT scenario, which although would probably require a Legendary status in order to not be hit with a CnD because this would either give more people a reason to buy the legendary edition, or it would give IM new inspirations for their development because then they have a clear way of seeing what the Community actually wants

[lone smelt]

Does faithfullness perk activate with smite (cleric)?

[zinc cradle]

Games should be hard, being challenged is important

[sinful vigil]

its not that its hard, its unbalanced

[loud moat]

Allegedly the court case looks really bad for them in KR so we shall see what happens

[dapper junco]

the game is unforgiving, its not hard to learn but some people cant deal with not having their hand held and are incapable of trying to get better, not unique to this game

[loud moat]

You cant teach a new player how they couldve avoided a bard cleric demonlock team W keying over walls they just think its BS and quit

[dapper junco]

that and people get overly attached to pixels they can lose

[ancient island]

Hey did anybody encountered "Abnormal behaviour" bug? Sometimes I got that window popup but I just playing the game normally. It started happening to me after newest patch.

[primal falcon]

yeah spawn rushing is not good for the game

[lavish ivy]

So you are saying that spawnrushing is a good strategy and new players should learn how to deal with players who ignore half of the Games aspect in order to be able to might get to the other half for the unlikely case that they actually win vs. the spawnrush and then have to deal with not only their starter room but also a congaline of mobs that is already aggro'd?

[sinful vigil]

specially when players are* riding the GS line and mogging players with like 11 gear score with a bis green weapon for that class

[gloomy escarp]

day 203, im down to my last health potion, no druid nerfs in sight. i hear the cluck of a chicken nearby, i know its over for me.

[wind venture]

is the alchemist quest bugged out? I did it on both ice cavern and ruins

[hard rock]

I feel like your in here just to start arguments

[sinful vigil]

its supposed to be on ruins

[lavish ivy]

That is the same mentality as gatekeeping new players in the forest of fallen giants with an agape ring, except that in Dark Souls 2 you can actually play the Game offline which allows new players to do the exact thing you described new players should do

[wind venture]

Well it sure is buggy then

[lavish ivy]

Well the channel is called Game-Discussion for a reason

[dapper junco]

Are newbies playing HR or 125+ gs? because I rarely encounter "spawn rushing" anywhere else, like very rarely 🤷 Spawn rushing is lame regardless but it hardly happens enough that it is the main issue with retaining players. most people are rushing the hotspots if anything

[sinful vigil]

if you want to spawnrush just play arena, oh wait its full of pve still and bans you temp for playing it, theres no workable solution rn for new players engaging with pvp* veterans in the same lobby

[earnest loom]

I had to reinstall and it stoppen when i Switched from blacksmith to Steam

[gloomy escarp]

I just want druid nerfed

[primal falcon]

it definitely happens in <25 lobbies at least on the US east server. I can tell its happening by the feed and predict what direction the guy is going lol

[empty latch]

to take actions against spawn rushing they could start by increasing the movement speed of monsters from normals the same as elite monsters with no other changes..forcing players to kill the monsters, also increasing the aggro from a "rised" mob to be stuck on same player for a longer period of time.

[young raven]

cop being 30 damage is not very much compared to every other range class. that being said, the rework also allowed for people to use more melee since they are no longer spamming cop

[sinful vigil]

i want my normie friends to like the game but they feel like pve is already to hard for them pvp is overwhelming, they dont have time to learn or breathe without slogging through games

[ancient island]

I am on Steam already

[sinful vigil]

but then your just relying on some botched ai rng to actually have mobs aggro the right people, and you can just w key and jump over modules in ruins so what does it matter

[empty latch]

if they fail pve then they stand no chance in pvp...the game description is simple " a hardcore unforgiven pvepvp mode"

[gloomy escarp]

its a lot for hitscan

[sinful vigil]

so great lets just buff the hell out of pve good design choice now its really anti new player that has never played a game like this before

[empty latch]

ruins are ruins...i never claimed a fix for that to me is total bs...but the rest of the maps have doors and checkpoints where you have to clear the mobs people that breaks / open doors instantly should be hitted atleast once by mobs and if not a door is closed being chased by the same mobs.

[young raven]

a hitscan that also hits offcenter of the reticle btw. it also only has 850 range which is barely outside of halberd range

[sinful vigil]

but now you just make room clearning and going to a room you actually need for a quest rng if you spawn close enough?

[empty latch]

if new players like the game and they have a head and 2 hands..they can invest time into learning...if they dont want to learn pve they will fail completely anyway in pvp.

[unique salmon]

As a newer player, I find the challenge of balancing PvE and PvP fun and invigorating. With that being said, they really need to work on their matchmaking system. Though I like the thrilling nature of a PvPvE roguelike, I do not like being spawn rushed by 1,000+ hour players within my first few games ever. They really need to consider time played in their matchmaking metrics.

[primal falcon]

I think the issue is the players don't even make it to the pve lol, spawn rushers are already there by the time they're fighting the first mob

[warm basin]

Half of solo lobbies are teaming on EU in HR the fk

[sinful vigil]

i aint trying to be mean, im just saying theres no "number pushing" solution to this issue the game needs something reworked or redesigned

[lime bone]

finally firefly abdomen after like 50 runs of 2-3 golems

[chrome patrol]

That would ruin matchmaking, no

[idle whale]

Who tf spawn rushes in sub 25 gear score lobbies that shit is beyond cringe.

[sinful vigil]

cause as much as i love hardcore games, the player count is the player count right now and its not appealing to enough players to be a sustainable live service game imo.

[empty latch]

increase pve movement..on hit while open a door by a goblin is a pain, a skeleton headshot its a pain, imagine them moving at the speed of elite. Newer players as i called out before to IM could have a 3 days of learning into a lobby where only new players can acces for 3 days where they can get the hang of pve and pvp against other new players, after the 3 days they join normal players.

[loud moat]

Every single lobby in all gs brackets has spawn rushing

[sinful vigil]

im sorry but so many people would quit if pve was more annoying than it already is sometimes that is a terrible solution

[manic hill]

it is though honestly. look at level zero extraction. barely any players and still staying afloat. anything over 6k is easily sustainable ive seen it many times

[unique salmon]

It would ruin timmie slaying for experienced players. It wouldn’t ruin the game. I get wanting to feel invincible and you getting your rocks off on slaying timmies, but it does nothing for new player retention. That’s what ruins games.

[empty latch]

people quit because of pve? they would quit anyway because of pvp, because you need knowledge..its not mario kart game. What about high roller?? where there are already a lot of elites and nightmare...that's the game PVE.

[inner patio]

how good is life drain for pvp, assuming you're using it to deal damage? (im trolling)

[young raven]

the issue is that HR is not out yet. Why they wait a month to put HR in after season is stupidity. it breaks every part of this game. all the scumlords are running around game trying to kill people doing quests

[loud moat]

Maps are too small and too many players per lobby to even sherpa teach new players and trios is too imbalanced with bard/cleric gap to even reasonably teach new players trying to get into HR or 125+

[dapper junco]

playing on EU as a newbie I barely got spawn rushed, to the point i dont even recall it happening, neither do I see it that much now on anything, not sure what peopel consider spawn rushing but i cant remember the last time i got into pvp in my spawn module lol

[sinful vigil]

high roller forces you to bring in gear that makes dealing with elites and nightmares way easier.

[bitter python]

I have only been spawn rushed a few times myself in Ruins, I am very player avoidant though and often sit in one of the corners of the map for a while clearing it all.

[primal falcon]

I think they should improve HR to entice more people to play it. Like making all found loot blue grade or above

[sinful vigil]

the solution imo is tighter gs brackets in arena with no pve, gives players a way better environment to practive pvp and get good without having to deal with normal game stuff

[empty latch]

you make me believe your the guy that rushes spawn right now, because you deny experience of highroller, you can open a door the same speed as in normals yet in highroller you clear the room, increase movement speed of monsters as elites with no other changes and given to new players a 3 day newbies lobbyes would do the trick for anyone interested, the rest can quit not everyone can be good at a game.

[upbeat roost]

im sorry but every arena match i lose and i sit and wait for it to dissconnect me i still get a deserter ban time out very frustrating

[loud moat]

Def not the avg experience you are having

[past lark]

bro i’ve been sayin this. i get maybe into the room next to me before some dude with 7000 hours is in my grill wiping the lobby

[loud moat]

I truly deeply believe you and think its a problem with map size and # of players per map, map design, mob AI design, and class balance

[unique salmon]

Same. I experienced this 3 times within my first 10 games ever. Experienced players spawn rushing in 25 and under to get their rocks off. Smurfing in this game is pretty sad.

[sinful vigil]

you get to the door faster tho, higher rarity is more movement speed. also you dont? more resourcefulness means more interaction speed which means door faster.

[empty latch]

so basically you run from module to module in highroller? seems like you between all of your friends are the brightest...interesting.

[sinful vigil]

i dont but plenty of people do, idk what your smoking rn.

[past lark]

sub 24 rocked by a vet just wiping lobbies blindfolded is so sick man

[loud moat]

The same reasons spawn rushing and ignoring pve is viable is the same reasons third partying is so prevalent and strong

[bitter python]

@unique salmon Most of them are probably just getting their 3 kill quest done. It is basically free to them with their skill and experience and it sucks - but I don't think seperating the matchmaking is great as it just increases everyone's queue times and leads to more empty lobbies.

[lavish ivy]

When I go into a ruins match, regardless if its solo duo or trios 9 out of 10 matches have a alteast 1 player kill within less than a minute

[stable echo]

They need to do something to nerf movespeed so it isn’t the most important stat. Really annoying how you have to get over like 315 ms minimum or you lose

[loud moat]

Bard shouldnt give MS or all stats via songs would go a long way

[empty latch]

if ms will be nerfed the pdr will be meta

[unique salmon]

It didn’t dissuade me, but I can see where it would cause most new players to jump ship immediately

[past lark]

it wouldn’t be so bad if it wasn’t every single game lmao

[stable echo]

Like I’m not currently running into rondel buckler pdr fighter with full ms gear

[empty latch]

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splited into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and changes.

[primal falcon]

slingshot would be interesting

[empty latch]

this is the hotfix i was spamming before the patch including warlocks nerfs that i removed...even do its still very strong.

[wind venture]

So I found a good item, used the express man... and now it's not found anymore? -_-

[loud moat]

Demonlock is turbo OP

[stable echo]

I think it’s fine having warlock spells cost more knowledge but make deathray not be nerfed by knowledge

[unique salmon]

I agree to an extent. It would definitely increase queue times temporarily. But with increasing new player retention and giving them a fair chance to learn both the PvE and PvP side of things, queue times will steady out once those players become increasingly comfortable.

[primal falcon]

not sure if faster mob movement is good, but instead maybe have it where mobs move faster if your back is turned. Not sure how hard that is to implement

[empty latch]

i know...but how to put it..the game is to broken to know what should be first rn

[loud moat]

Totally agree overall decent changes you suggest

[dapper junco]

possibly 🤷 i see way more people rushing hotspots than spawns regardless. Not sure how you get around it without just locking people to their spawn module at the beginning of the match so people have a chance to do something there, but Im sure most people play this game for the PvP and with a bigger map and/or less players people are just going to get bored anyway, its a fine line to find and I dont have much faith they would find it lol

[empty latch]

the request of more knowledge is to make warlocks wear occultist boots or their vest...so they dont run naked and kite.

[past lark]

as someone who gets spawn rushed almost every game by someone who seems to have atleast 1000 more hours than me please separate lmao were already playing loading screen simulator

[loud moat]

I mean I def dont have faith in IM but in my experience getting new players into norms is fine, but when they want to transition to HR their desire to play is squashed by the current issues

[cinder prairie]

GUYS I FOUND LOOSE TROUSERS ONLINE I MIGHT GET SOME

[empty latch]

bruh i do spawn rush and its for a good reason, if i dont take care of the maybe the guy spawned next to me..and i go somewhere else and i meet another guy i start pvp and lets say i win the guy ignored at the start might already be behind me...

[stable echo]

Ye I understand only problem is if you running death ray build you have to manage your spell casting speed. Too much and death ray is very short cast

[proper girder]

Is the Potion Trials quest bugged? It only counted 1 potion when I popped all 4 in one session and escaped, like it asked

[bitter python]

I've never even gone into a HR game, sounds terrifying 🙂

[wanton willow]

Do it in crypts it’s bugged

[past lark]

yeah man ur totally worried about the new player in the sub 24 out skilling u for shore

[hard rock]

@wanton willow want to borrow a few things?

[proper girder]

In crypts? Odd bug but alright XD

[unique salmon]

I stopped playing Goblin Caves for the most part, since it seems to be the map for likely spawn rushing. The map I dislikes most when I first started (Frost Mountain) is my go-to now. PvE is a bit more dangerous, so it makes the rushing less common.

[cinder prairie]

I hate all these quests that are forcing me to go to hell

[cinder prairie]

That's exactly why it's less common, the more dangerous pve

[empty latch]

how do i know your new? and your not going to bite my @ss ?

[past lark]

ya i just play frost caves only really lmao

[dapper junco]

made me laugh when the tailor in his first quests wants you to go to Hell and kill some Demons just because, like bro why

[past lark]

alright lol have fun slaying tims i guess

[empty latch]

as a counter for spawn rushing i suggested to increase the monsters movement speed as elites with no other changes, forcing players to kill them.

[primal falcon]

yeah i'm the same, Frost Mountains is my favourite map now, even for pvp. Some of the modules are very spacious and good for fights. Also lots of height too creating interesting situations

[dapper junco]

isnt that just going to delay the spawn rush because the other player is still also killing mobs in his spawn module lol

[loud moat]

If its delayed its not much of a spawn rush anymore is it

[dapper junco]

it still doesnt change the outcome by much

[loud moat]

Gives players agency idk pretty big positive change IMO

[dapper junco]

i guess they might feel like they got to play the game a bit more before they get nuked by the bigger badder player

[empty latch]

no, it takes for both time, wich means you arent going to be killed right away but later , anyway you gonna encounter another player no matter the changes its pvpve, another thing added would be for new players a 3 day rookie lobbyes where time for 3 days new accounts made can play the game before joining normal lobbyes .

[loud moat]

Idk how you dont think that is huge for new players

[empty latch]

the main issue is that in any CHARACTER no matter wich one i can make a kill without killing a mob in some maps such as goblin caves or forgotten castle.

[steep pawn]

how to play arena? EU central doesnt work US east doesnt work. I wait like 1.5 minute each time and it says no parties available

[proper girder]

I like that last idea, with a 3 day lock on other things like Auction House, a 3 Day Rookie lobby would be good for new players imo

[dapper junco]

a rookie dungeon of some kind would be helpful massively but i think it might work better as a constant option with no/minimal rewareds

[empty latch]

also a constant option with no loot and no quest to complete or to count.

[bitter tree]

how does one get the spear into the squire for the druid

[dapper junco]

some people have much more time to play than others and some take longer to learn so without a time restriction would be nice

[proper girder]

Raise Weaponsmith affinity iirc

[primal falcon]

weapon smith quests

[empty latch]

otfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splited into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and changes.

[dapper junco]

you could have experienced players dropping in to play PvE with newbs and helping them learn too, would probably lessen the toxicity as well lol

[marble zenith]

Failed to connect to server? It's happen like 10 times now.

[loud moat]

Needs cleric heals changed to partial upfront partial over time but overall decent and demon form MS penalty and dr nerfs probs

[primal falcon]

I think the Rookie lobbies should have loot, but just shitty loot like max green

[empty latch]

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splited into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and changes.

[crimson yacht]

Anyone else dissapointed by ironmace lying about arena?

[unique salmon]

Not just rookie lobbies. I think they should make a PvE lobby where all drops armor/weapon drops are Bind on Account and only useable in PvE lobby. No treasure drops or anything sellable.

[empty latch]

i know warlock and cleric are still op..but clerics arent that much ...they are more a tanky character and that's what suppose to be actually in my oppinion coming to warlock yeah...the nerfs were almost 0...but IM cant do sh1t about it apparently.

[empty latch]

that changes the very core of the game. Cant be done by IM.

[primal falcon]

thats too confusing, ahving seperate PvE gear, just make it shitty so people are encouraged to play the normal mode

[loud moat]

Cleric and bard are just turbo broken in trios in current iteration and need some major changes IMO

[unique salmon]

Probably not. Not sure if their devs have the experience to make it happen. But it’s the reason why games like Dungeon Slayer will take a lot of their market share away.

[empty latch]

by the way all up above that i put it in the list are ideas of players that actually play the classes...i dont play bard so that nerf was taken from a bard player idk exacly how it is.

[primal falcon]

if I were to redesign the queues, it would be like PvE (max found loot green), normal (<124 gear score), HR (125+). No more gear score brackets

[dapper junco]

Warlock already got a blanket nerf in HP costs for spells with no buff for spells, if you increase the memory cost are you also suggesting they buff the spells? nothing they cast would be worth more than they already cost in both HP and memory

[charred marten]

What's the chance of the expressman losing your stuff? Out of the 4 times I've used him he hasn't give me my stuff.

[jovial zephyr]

it's bugged for me to

[empty latch]

warlocks are still naked even above 24, they must wear knowledge stuff.

[loud moat]

Yeah shriek is very OP espec vs pve and low dr classes. Should be changed to work like normal armor pen and not reduce PDB like it does

[dapper junco]

if they arent they only have 9 and anything you can fit into 9 memory is worth only 9 memory

[empty latch]

or they go melee physical/magical damage...wich is also broken af... idk man

[dapper junco]

like if you increase knowledge req then the HP costs need to be reverted too, because their spells arent worth more

[sage stirrup]

are people still losing their kits in arena

[empty latch]

not true, being naked into dungeon isnt a thing...a skill call it whatever, you play caster wear caster boots..not lightfoot with loose trousers and no top with a rogue shadow mask and kill people.

[trail scroll]

in arena
if you remove equipment and are in the process of equipping it when the rounds change, you lose the item, it turns gray and once in the lobby it is no longer there

[loud moat]

Honestly trousers and lightfoots probs gonna get reworked and nerfed at some point

[empty latch]

no, pdr will take it place, as new meta.

[loud moat]

fighters can wear 6max armor pdr trousers and be 50% pdr 310ms

[empty latch]

your kind...40% pdr can be stock squire.

[loud moat]

Ironically capping ms made MS meta worse than ever before. Chest -ms penalty rework was probs the worst balance change in games history

[dapper junco]

its not a wizard though, theres a reason why a lot of people build for movespeed because warlock has to get close to be effective and movespeed is heavily dictating how a lot of engagements go, people get tired of being run down so easily. That also doesnt change the fact that it has cost them more HP to cast anything now so do we just continue nerfing casters for lock into the ground til no one plays it at all?

i think the whole class needs a rework personally

they seem lost on the balancing part lol

[empty latch]

indeed its not a wizzard, it can use bardiche,halberd and longsword wich suppose to be a medium caster and a close combat frontliner hence the demon armor...not the naked cop spam and kite.

[dapper junco]

"can" being the main word, its supposed to be versatile in build choice, so everyone supposed to be a demon or plate or what?

naked locks that just want to kite and run are hard countered by anyone that can aim a bow well which seems to be half of the lobbies atm lol

[empty latch]

i played warlock both naked and normal plate like cleric no demon armor, i 1 hit a barbarian in head with pos + bloodshed blade and bos, i was using halberd. On top of that i havent used demon pact nor curse of pain (didnt had time).

[terse sable]

Unfortunately we cant be both effective in melee and have fast MS at the same time we dont have perks like Swift

What is swift like 30% reduced penalty or even more, i dunno the exact percentage

[tepid kindle]

Does anyone know when quests are usually added

[empty latch]

30% no scaleable.

[terse sable]

Its an insane perk

[empty latch]

fighter is insane right now. check out this Hotfix i created along with oppinions from others.

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splited into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and see what can be changed.

[terse sable]

I can be pretty good in melee as warlock with plate but i will be <300 MS . Or even <290MS most likely 😅

[frozen hound]

Is the Potion Trials Quest bugged for anyone else?

[empty latch]

to me the best thing they can do its do add class designated items...all items should be used by only certain classes including armors.

no items that can be used by every single class..but i know that's to much to ask.

[spring verge]

yes its dumb asg

[past lark]

just separate noobs and vets so new players actually spend more than 5 min in a game, or atleast give me monk class so when i’m dead atleast i had fun dying

[empty latch]

read my hotfix above it says about rookies.

[past lark]

ur hot fix isn’t going to be read by the devs i think no offence

[empty latch]

your hopes and dreams are matching mine, yet the truth is the opposite :)) im just still trying..

[odd ermine]

its fun to lvl up a class and playing against 400 gear score people

[past lark]

monk will come eventually, the spawn rushing and dying in the first 3 min probably won’t ever end

[empty latch]

i hope monk wont come out until they fix what they have right now...monk surely will bring a lot of players online but with the current state of the game as fast as they come the same they will leave.

[terse sable]

I like the fighter idea for the mastery perk. I also think they should maybe give back the decreased dmg when using weapons not meant for fighter. So atleast 10% dmg reduction again. Barbarian slingshots sounds like it could make the class completely broken if it were to be too effective in my opinion. But i am biased i hate barbarians so i'm just scared they'll become meta. I don't think warlock spells need to cost more knowledge especially after recent nerfs, i think warlock has been nerfed enough for now. Bards shriek of weakness it would be a good idea to slightly increase cast time, but i dont think the radius decrease is necessary. Rookie lobbies i think would add unnecessary lobbies that split up the player base too much. Usually mid-to-end wipe player base goes down and i dont think we will have enough players to fill all these lobbies.

Also swift perk could use a nerf, it used to be 20% its now 30%. I think 20% is fine

[dapper gyro]

anyone know why my discord always lags and glitches when playing this game? Its only this game

[empty latch]

barbarian slingshot/bola cant be meta..every other class has ranged alternatives its nothin new, fighter -10% phys dmg reduction it has been a choice by IM, im not denying their choices i set them being uncomplete (rondel fighter / ex would have a handicap without a bow)..warlocks nerfs are like very insignifiant, yet warlock kiting ability isnt reduced by far except phantomize nerf, rookie lobbyes are boring without loot or content to complete so the game itself would be boring if they stay only there.

[cinder prairie]

I can do it easily if I have a team supporting me and taking some of the weight off but I can't find anyone to go to hell with me as a group. All the people that party here just wanna do PVP. Man I got QUESTS I GOTTA DO

[pine marsh]

i just had a skeleton crossbowman have aim bot on me and I hit him 10 times he didn't die, ran into the other room and he just shot me through the walls and killed me

[empty latch]

i did all quests alone until wyvern where i paid a warlock to solo it 3k gold and he let me loot everything including the frost and the boss and chests.

[past lark]

i just want monk atleast dying in my spawn would
be funnier if i’m just flying fists at the guy

[empty latch]

i would love to throw fists with monk, as a main barbarian with this and last season playing fighter and warlock cuz meta bs...but Monk its a big deal for everyone who left the game, if they find same chaos as before the player drop rate would be back and increase with another hardly to balance class to deal with.

[earnest pendant]

how much affinity with tailor to unlock cloak of darkness craft?

[sage stirrup]

what? you hit 150 affinity for doing all the quests i thought

[strange bane]

WHAT DO YOU USE RUBY SILVER FOR NOW ?

[empty latch]

later its used for crafting, rn only for completing a quest.

[strange bane]

TY

[sand zenith]

Can’t add anymore lobbies, would dilute the player-base.

Splitting wep mast doesn’t really solve the problem with rondel fighter.

[empty latch]

they can add rookie lobbyes...if rookies try the game once, twice, 3 times and they cant do anything they permanently or long term quits...better to be splited at the beginning than lose future players. Spliting weapon mastery solve the rondel fighter problem because it must have pdr to work , pdr means low movement speed and without a bow its done.

[terse sable]

But they will just use both perks

[empty latch]

but they will take up a slot in damage or pdr.

[empty latch]

it gonna be nerfed , as it was warlock last patch, not a complete nerf but it has been touched.

[honest night]

do you still lose items you bring into arena if they arent found by you

[empty latch]

yes. its a permanently thing not a bug. you must bring items only found by YOUR CHARACTER and used in arena by YOUR CHARACTER in order not to lose them.

[noble hemlock]

Can you craft gear for arena guys?

[sand zenith]

What you’re suggesting is essentially a PVE lobby right? You’re splitting a portion of the base forever and giving them a different game with no rewards, I’d like to see you explain this concept a bit more.

On the topic of rondel, splitting weapon masteries won’t make a difference, what makes rondel fighter strong is stacking true damage, you’re super tanky and fast, and have the ability to negate your armor cooldown. There needs to be a penalty for using other weapons again tbh.

[empty latch]

that's the way W full, crafted items by your character and used by your character in arena cant be lost.

[noble hemlock]

But when i craft it says handled?

[sand zenith]

Crafted items are minted by you.

[noble hemlock]

Like my name under craft doesnt show when i crafted

[inner patio]

Hi guys, just to be sure, you CAN hit Phantomized warlocks with magic, right?

[terse sable]

It doesnt matter if its handled or not u still keep it

[noble hemlock]

are quest reward okay for arena guys

[empty latch]

splitting the pve lobby is simple. lets say your a new player, you go into first dungeon you die to a goblin, you go second dungeon you die to a skeleton, you go third dungeon your rushed by another experienced player and you die 1 min into the spawn so you quit or try hard:)) as we vets did by now, instead go into a lobby only with monsters and practice..of course with no rewards no loot not quests to count the game its stalemate and boring so you will have eventually go into pvp and quests and content of the game.

[wanton jolt]

Only if stuff is found by you or crafted by you everything else will be lost

[sand zenith]

Sure, but you need to integrate those players somehow. I think some time of soft 10 game cap to learn pve could work, but you can’t lobby split forever.

[empty latch]

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splited into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Fighter -10 % physical dmg reduced in ranged weapon mastery and melee weapon mastery.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and

[past lark]

the problem isn’t pve pve is easy (all things considered) it’s literally the dudes with 6000 hours spawn rushing in sub 24 that makes the game actually terrible

[acoustic night]

which felidian variant is better?

[empty latch]

the players that die and quits the game are players that doesnt have time for the games in general...so if we put a timer they would not be able to access the game to much in that period.

[void mountain]

I decided to use that as practice and now I kill them when they rush my spawn
Just practice and get better
Its never been a pve game- always pvpve

[terse sable]

They call me big peepee man in the bizz

[loud moat]

Depends on class and what stats you need ie if your kit needs more AS or not

[acoustic night]

idrk what the difference between action speed and regular action speed is lol

[tribal shell]

Next person I see using a polearm, I'm mercilessly PVPing

[loud moat]

Action speed is how fast you swing regular interaction speed is how fast you open doors, check the wiki for stat explanations and breakdown it does a rly good job

[pure beacon]

i kinda like most of it , just from a fair point of view , keep shapeshift mastery but give it a 5 sec cd between switching forms.
Warlock spells cost more knowledge , they already increased costs by 1.5x for all spells, increasing memory would straight up be devilish now

[exotic sable]

Why is the arena giving penaltys after every game for leaving early when we didnt leave?

[woeful urchin]

i. hate. waiting. for. dungeon. rotations.

[acoustic night]

thanks

[valid kite]

Hot Take - Delete Druids.
Why? They can one shot any class in the game in bear form.

[balmy minnow]

🫃

[void mountain]

They cant 1 shot- they hit hard though
You can play spacing for them
The real issue is rat forn healing and mobility and instant shapeshifting

[past lark]

practicing against people within ur skill range works. but this shit feels like a toddler fighting a heavy weight lmao like what is there to learn from actually getting dunked on beyondcjust “getting better”

[valid kite]

It doesn't take much for a set up to be grabbed an 1 shot by a druid. Don't defend it. Its pathetic.

[thin mural]

why is dark cuirass not used more by fighters after the buff, instead of dark plate? str, better ms, better armor

[valid kite]

If they do more than 170+ HP in a single hit with just trash purple str gear. Its seriously fucked up.

[void mountain]

Youre a fighter- you can parry it and dxync block it

[woeful urchin]

does that make more sense than the cleric spells coming out before he has even finished saying the spells 💀 sometimes this game just games

[void mountain]

I am too, no class bm

[valid kite]

No, because they don't do that?

[woeful urchin]

they definitely do i got hit by it like 10 mins ago from a cleric

[loud moat]

I do promise you 50str druid does infact one shot headshot many classes

[grave geode]

I think the two cleric skills have the same chant so the shorter cast time one will go off before the chant is finished

[terse sable]

Yea thats annoying af happens all the time to me with judgement

[woeful urchin]

honestly no idea i dont play cleric but that audio queue triggers me every time lmao

[woeful urchin]

yeah exactly that lol

[serene fern]

Are we able to craft grimsmile rings yet??

[void mountain]

If thats true thr class should be disabled while they fix it

[dusky crescent]

i can confirm this is true . for a fact no question.

[thin mural]

yes

[proper girder]

I've been One Shot by a bear as a PDR Fighter a few times

[zinc tiger]

Naaah fighter is OP 😂😂😂😂

[hallow quail]

alchemist quest broken?

[proper girder]

Gotta do it in Ruins, not Ice Caves

[hallow quail]

ty

[blissful marten]

anyone know why right click is dropping items now? is this just me?

[quaint sluice]

Druid still needs to be fixed but fighter is op too

[unborn harbor]

is arena still glitched

[thorny holly]

I don't even think its glitched. I think its a feature. Cooldown timer for loss. but idk why they put the leaver message

[void mountain]

Tab out and in, and tap your left alt

[void mountain]

Only part of fighter thats op is rondel build and dsync block

[unborn harbor]

i think its a glitch because the time increased on me after more then 1 loss and it only seems to happen on a loss

[blissful marten]

ty never had that happen before, was gonna be a tad bit salty if they changed that after this long

[void mountain]

Its either a minor bug or alt key is stuck being read as held down

[grave geode]

it happens sometimes when you tab in and out, you dont need to tab out again, just click alt and it will be fixed

[thorny holly]

I think its just the devs introducing a frustrating feature without communicating it in the patch notes or displaying a proper message to convey that if you lose you can't play for a few mionutes. Which they have done multiple times.

[south sky]

why do i damn near get a leaver pen every game i dont leave early or nothingg

[grave geode]

if its when you are playing arena its bugged atm

[south sky]

thank you man hopefully they get too it soon ruined the night w the boys last night lol

[earnest silo]

Why do they keep buffing fighter? It's the most solid class. Slayer fighters just a better rouge.

[wanton jolt]

How much affinity do I need from weaponsmith to craft frostlight weapons

[acoustic night]

is there a way to make merchants restock sooner

[earnest silo]

No, you can switch characters and they will have diffrent shops.

[acoustic night]

didn't think about that thanks

[mystic obsidian]

does luck givee you better or worse chances of getting rare quest items like yeti teeth?

[lavish ivy]

Quest items are unaffected by luck

[whole granite]

so why keep nerfing rogue into the grround when there so many stronger characters?

[flint solstice]

Anyone else lose their gear after an arena loss? NAMED gear

[hard rock]

@wanton jolt if you want to borrow a few things please lmk

[wanton jolt]

Wdym

[mystic obsidian]

are you sure??? wiki says otherwise

[tranquil depot]

Anyone else getting leavers penaltys for simply finishing arena matches? Happened twice now and I'm not leaving early lmao

[empty latch]

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splited into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Fighter -10 % physical dmg reduced in ranged weapon mastery and melee weapon mastery.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and good balance changes.

[warm basin]

wow that barbarian suggestion. SDF is actually 0 iq lol 😄

[hard rock]

Like borrowing skill or other stuff like that

[native pine]

teamkilling is bannable with video proof right

[viral oyster]

do you lose gear in arena

[tall herald]

Are grimamiles craft able yet?

[brittle sinew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDz22L_tdDY

people with red names just teamkill and think its funny seems they get away with it

[thin badger]

yes same

[empty latch]

everyone has a ranged alternative, i dont see why barbs cannot have that.

[shy narwhal]

Why is the rusty old key so much less valuable than a golden key? Don’t they both lead to treasure rooms?

[viral oyster]

do you lose gear in arena?

[frail rampart]

so arena has no gear score? i go in squire kit and am against full caped out team

lol and then it says I got a leaver penalty even though i never left

[tall herald]

Are grimsmiles craftable yet?

[vital pollen]

Does quest reset?

[winged sage]

yea gotta finish alchemist quests

[empty latch]

have been added new quests?(that's the only reason i still play the game lol).

[signal sky]

anyone else think these new religion choices are kinda boring:(

[quaint sluice]

is swift for plate armor only or all clothing?

[dire matrix]

If you solo que for arena and one of your team mates rage quits YOU get a leaver penalty

[hoary flax]

Is the ice caverns potion quest bugged?? i just completed it and its showing incomplete. I went back into the caves again and its not showing up on my quest list? wtf?

[rough jungle]

just got a 3 minute leaver penalty for nothing, ironmace get it together wth

[idle veldt]

Anyone else having "connection to server terminated abnormally please restart" error within 5 min of launching game? I've been unable to play since new season.

[valid kite]

Rondel Fighter needs a fat nerf. Druid needs fixing. Rebuff Stilleto and nerf rondel

[grave geode]

all your armor regardless of type, but usually it only worth taking if you are wearing plate because of plate’s large ms penalty

[topaz cargo]

Just stay in the game for like 15 extra seconds after the game ends <—— SOMETIMES THIS WORKS NOT ALL RHE TIME

[quaint sluice]

Verify integrity of files for your game

[rough jungle]

nah bro, i stayed in for like 2 minutes after the game ended getting a drink and i still got a 3 minute penalty

[idle veldt]

Tried this as well as fresh reinstall, flushing the dns, checking firewall, running as admin etc.

[acoustic night]

does leveling up merchant through quests make them sell higher quality stuff? and does that mean the starting things from squire also get upgraded if the corresponding merchant is leveled?

[viscid crane]

same 😦

[autumn brook]

Anyone else keep getting leaver penalty after ending a game of arena?

[viscid crane]

yup

[hoary flax]

Quest Potion Trials is bugged for me, fun

[autumn brook]

it only happens if i lose ive noticed

hotfix: never lose

[raven tree]

Why am i getting a leavers que everytime an arena ends

[native pine]

u get it anytime u lose, bad game

[modest kindle]

every time i leave arena i get leaver penalty

[native pine]

bug

[modest kindle]

rip okay sorry just read top chat

[left solar]

BRO why in tf am I having to wait for a leaver penalty how hard is it to fix??? AND LADDERS?

[gloomy escarp]

reeee

[empty latch]

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splited into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Fighter -10 % physical dmg reduced in ranged weapon mastery and melee weapon mastery.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and good balance changes.

[gloomy escarp]

no

[native pine]

bro i just got one for my match ending in a draw cause the enemy team never even spawned

[empty latch]

no

[young lynx]

hey is there an issue with the new alchemist quest

[bitter python]

I am curious why you would want these rookie lobbies with no loot or quest progress, who would play them? Just for testing?

[earnest silo]

What drops the firefly abdomen?

[empty latch]

for new players that are rushed by experienced players and killed in spawn, die to skeletons, goblins at spawn basically for rookies that can practice there how much they want and of course get no gain from there except pve "experience" not character experience..you get what im sayin. Give them the first dose of this game and they will take and want more.

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splited into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Daggers damage decreased by 2.
-Rogues phys power increased by 3.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and good balance changes.

[ancient summit]

rogue does not feel weak rn tbh

and druid is already weak without hyper gear

rookie lobby sounds pointless imo

[earnest silo]

Druid needs a cooldown on transforms or something he dosent' need to commit at all

[dry thicket]

Where do I get a fireflys abdomen from?

[grave geode]

give instant transformation charges with a cooldown

[deft cargo]

arena still bugged with losing items?

[twin stream]

Only winners can play

[ancient summit]

very dumb change

[idle veldt]

Anyone else having "connection to server terminated abnormally please restart" error within 5 min of launching game? I've been unable to play since new season. I have verified game files, updated drivers, fresh reinstalled game, checked firewall, restarted modem / router, flushed my DNS, closed all non essential background programs.. still can't last but a min or two in the lobby screen before game booting me.

[woven kiln]

Stone golem

[cursive shuttle]

What are you playing on? BS launcher or steam?

[woven kiln]

Got one the other night and forgot. Checked marketplace and it was a quick 5k 😂

[warm basin]

Cause of the holy trinity...

[empty latch]

no, for real, literally every character has a ranged alternative and none of them is considered broken, yet barbarians have none, im sure it can be balanced to deal damage as much as a fighter with a bow or less, or be based on interaction speed or smth...idk but its a must.

[glass sigil]

Whats a good solo setup for rangers right now? I used to love longbow/spear STR/VIG, is that trash now?

[warm basin]

Just stop man. barb already has maxed ms, highest hp, highest melee damage. and francisca stacking is back. ive played a ton of barb. in the hands of a patient player it is a hella broken class. it needs nothing to fix it

[native pine]

besides a nerf

[gleaming pagoda]

leaver penalty glitch still not fixed

[empty latch]

highest melee damage with no pdr and that high melee damage its overtaken by melee warlock, melee fighter , dps rogue.

[analog jasper]

is snappy tappy/rappy snappy ok to use in dark and darker ?

[empty latch]

franciscas isnt broken, its not used for damage its used for catching players, slingshot or bola its an alternative to long range encounter.

[pulsar tree]

what.

[idle veldt]

Steam

[dire cliff]

How has the leaver penalty in Arena not been fixed yet??

[analog jasper]

banned on csgo thats only reason i ask

[pulsar tree]

wtf is tappy snappy rappy trappy

[analog jasper]

keyboard feature

[cursive shuttle]

Try on the BS.

[empty latch]

max movement speed its a joke...i guess, the only classes that can claim having max movement speed are classes with the lightest weapon such as wizards or warlocks because they hold a book with is -10 ms, barbarian with axe out cannot achieve max movespeed unless they sacrifice everything else like pdr, damage or max health bonuses or attack speed..or atleast achieve one of this + max movement speed.

[analog jasper]

i don't fully understand i just know it makes your keys more responsive when strafing in games etc#

[idle veldt]

Will I have to repurchase the full game ?

[rare venture]

Yeah and their raged punches do more damage than zap and can Achilles you.

[analog jasper]

i am just wondering if ironmace has banned it

basically gives you near perfect inputs

[empty latch]

i have to tell you we dont punch...we use torches for dealing more damage and that's viable below 25 gs.

[chrome patrol]

Can Druid rats jump into pots?

[hasty mulch]

is there any plan to fix the 5 minute timeout between rounds before arena ends or is that just not happenin?

[empty latch]

when we talk about max movement speed we talk about cap 330 ms, wich can be capped above 25 gs and -125 gs with bis items (i think im not sure) yet you lose everything else.

[analog jasper]

there are some bugged places i have found on the gc maps where you can go inside crates and go under the floor

[cursive shuttle]

Nope!

[terse hull]

is potion trials bugged?

just drank 1 of each potion on ice caves and it didnt complete

[prime maple]

Nerf movement speed please

[empty latch]

if that happens everyone will pdr meta.

[prime maple]

They already do pdr meta

[shy arch]

what does bis stand for in bis items

[analog jasper]

but how will i be able to feel like Flash if they nerf speed 😦

[terse hull]

Best In Slot

[empty latch]

best item in slot.

[elfin wigeon]

is the quest from Alchemist Potion Trials bugged? does not seem to work for me.

[empty latch]

cant argue with that..

[glacial sparrow]

Tf i got leaver's penalty for loosing a arena match

[hybrid dagger]

did they fix losers penalty?

[grave geode]

you need to do it in ruins, they got the conditions wrong

[terse hull]

#game-discussion message

i feel your pain

[elfin wigeon]

ah, makes sense lmao, thanks 😛

[empty latch]

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splited into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Daggers damage decreased by 2.
-Rogues phys power increased by 3.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and good balance changes.

[prime maple]

They need to nerf buffs too tbh. Bard and cleric are just not ok. There's no reason to play anything else when you roll through everything

[terse hull]

-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.

bro what are you smoking lmao, just remove the song at that point tf

[grave geode]

they definitely need to nerf it but maybe not in that way

[wind venture]

I've lost 40k, sold all my big bags, all my items. And lost it all game after game. Why? Druids are the most broken thing in the game. I've been fighting hackers constantly. Incredible rubber banding, Such a great game being run by a team that just dont know what they are doing, or what they actual want. One part wants 'high death rate in seconds' one part wants 'longer fights' SDF only comes up with the most horrible ways to ruin this great game.

[grave geode]

maybe just reduce the phy power and armor rating reduction by a bit

[terse hull]

it only really needs to be shorter duration 18 seconds on a perfect performance is way too long

[glass nexus]

Not gonna lie, sounds like a massive skill issue and some terrible decision making tbh

[wind venture]

@glass nexusand your dog of a mother never loved you.

[glass nexus]

But yours did

[grave geode]

nah, its effectiveness is kinda crazy, I never watched a bard do cyclops before, but it usually takes a good 10ish seconds to get cyclops out of rockfall phase with a longsword, but a bard came in and shrieked it and it piterally took like 4 swings, it was shocking

[terse hull]

thats bc most pve has almost 0 armor rating as is, so another -50 is huge to them, a pdr fighter prob has 250+, so its not as big of a shift

[grave geode]

its still just too fast to use with zero downside for its effectiveness

[grave geode]

also the duration isnt even a problem because of how spammable it is

[empty latch]

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splited into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Daggers damage decreased by 2.
-Rogues phys power increased by 3.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and good balance changes.

[terse hull]

6 seconds only lets them get a couple of hits in, its really good for pve, and it is still solid for pvp, but its not as broken as people claim it is, and without it bard would get folded by every class, it lets them actually be viable at melee range, otherwise the class will 100% be kite and kiter with surv bow

[quaint sluice]

Rookie lobbies is just custom game

[eager dew]

which qeust?

[knotty bough]

triple mages is kinda ridiculous in arena

[grave geode]

6 secs? from the poor performance? or are you saying reduce it to 6 seconds?

[terse hull]

yea im saying do something to similar to what was done to rousing rythms( which got constant buffs not constant timer), just make the duration constant regardless of performance at 6 seconds, and keep the rest as is

imo most of the issue is that if i land shriek on someone i can still kite around for another 20 seconds or so until i get an oppurtunity to attack and get damage off, at 6 seconds i have to go in for damage almost immediately after playing shriek, which would make bards going in for attack much more readable (therefore more counterable) and make it so that bard cant just shriek 1-3 people for the 90% of the duration of that engagement

[jovial zenith]

leaver penalty without reason is this a bug or intenional or can this be avoided?

[knotty bough]

its a bug, happened to me twice in 3 matches

[jaunty tendon]

how many quests were added ?

[muted glacier]

is the pots quests bugged loaded into ruins and drank every pot and left but every pot except healing pot was not marked

[terse hull]

i just completed it on ruins, so its doable, i did it with specifically poor pots except magic protection bc thats minimum uncommon

[cursive shuttle]

ALL of it has to be done in a single match!

[terse hull]

you get leaver penalty when you lose arena, git gud

(seriously tho Ironmace needs to fix that asap)

[muted glacier]

yup loaded in with poors of the health pots and drank that last before i left after drinking the other pots throughout the same match

[tribal shell]

What's leaver penalty?

[terse hull]

a temp ban from queuing that is given for leaving a match of arena early, but it is also given when you lose a match of arena bc spaghetti code

prevents you from matchmaking for 300 seconds (5 mins)

[empty latch]

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splited into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Daggers damage decreased by 2.
-Rogues phys power increased by 3.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.
-TeamKilling can be reported (in case of intentionally teamkilling) and bannable on 5 stages with no reset.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and good balance changes. what you guys think?

[muted glacier]

@terse hull nvm did it on ruins but somehow all the other pots were checkmarked weird

[terse hull]

yea idk the quest is def a bit bugged, but at least halfway functional

[iron scarab]

so im playin arena and every time we lose i get a 222 second ish ban and cant play at all is this intended ??

[kindred pelican]

nice 300 sec leave timer for losing an arena sick

[quaint lantern]

Anyone getting crazy rubber banding?

[exotic crypt]

new weaponsmith quests only? no tailor/leather?

[exotic crypt]

it's only if you hit 'exit game' by press escape, if you let it organically send you back to the lobby then u don't get the timeout.

[bleak sinew]

I'm having really bad rubberbanding recently, anyone know of any fixes? (Lol @quaint lantern same!!! it's been terrible I haven't wanted to play all week because of it )

[violet sparrow]

hunting goblin quests, do those lion's heads on the map always spawn in the same spots?

[exotic crypt]

no. sometimes they are a different chest. gold chest or large oak chest.
some of them are garunteed though. depends on the map.

[modest kindle]

my purple helmet lost because of the leavers queue glitch

[burnt marten]

f a item dosnt show that anyone found it does it dissapear in arena/

[modest kindle]

it takes your loot away if you leave early?

[exotic crypt]

yes

[modest kindle]

is it cause i was wearing it?

[burnt marten]

why am i getting leave timeout while i didnt even leave..

[opaque pier]

does anyone know if i use a short sword and rondel with sword mastery, does the sword mastery apply to my dagger aswell

[empty latch]

it doesnt.

[kindred pelican]

there is a button that appears at the end that says exit to lobby, are you saying I should not press that and just idle and I will automatically be put back in lobby?

[final sky]

Can you make higher rarity of crafted items? Like rare or epic copper light for example

[burnt marten]

where do you get lockpicks

[opaque pier]

craft or market place

[bleak sinew]

find or craft

[burnt marten]

how craft?

[bleak sinew]

iron bars (iron found on gobo caves)

[opaque pier]

go to weaponsmith and then service

[opaque stratus]

Is arena not working? waiting over 7 minutes for a match and counting

[burnt marten]

where can i find iron

[opaque pier]

you can mine it with a pick in goblin caves

[burnt marten]

ok

[fluid plinth]

are they gonna fix the arena bug or

[dawn arrow]

coming back to my wizard after playing other classes....pve is terrible

[gloomy escarp]

why do u wanna mine iron

[fluid plinth]

yeah everything has like 100+ hp lol

[empty latch]

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splits into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Daggers damage decreased by 2.
-Rogues phys power increased by 4.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and good balance changes. Anyone up for the above changes?

[opaque stratus]

WOW. The leaver penalty is STILL BROKEN and applying to EVERY match regardless of how long you stay. FIX YOUR GAME!

[fluid plinth]

lol rogue doesnt need to do any more damage, im still being 4 tapped in full pdr and cant even swing once

[solid dew]

Bro when ar they gonna nerf the fucking bear

[acoustic fog]

@zinc sparrow fixing leaver penalty for Arena when? It's annoying AF to get punished for teammates or enemies mistakes of leaving Arena!!!!!!!!!!!

[dawn arrow]

Like I literally have one spell that can kill mobs and that's it

[opaque stratus]

@empty latch terrible changes, sounds like you need to learn more about the classes and how damage works. not meant offensively, but prospectively the game shouldn't cater to bad.

[empty latch]

pdr its % damage reduction, daggers are notoriously anti pdr , because its low damage and fast hit( dps) wich eats pdr by default.

[fluid plinth]

yup and i cant even get a single swing off before im dead, how fun!

[opaque stratus]

Spoken like someone who's never played rogue vs anything above 24 gearscore.

[empty latch]

with 40% pdr with 24 damage how much dmg is dealt? then aim to the head multiplier and see why they 4 tap you. Landmine rogue must be nerfed but idk how.

[opaque stratus]

PDR fighters can laugh and afk while you stab, make a sandwich, come back and stab you back with the same dagger and instantly win. I know because I play both sides of that exchange in HR.

[desert orchid]

why do u get banned everytime u lose in arena

[fluid plinth]

well maybe if i had purple pdr gear but i only invest in arenas cause everyone just plays cheese and cringe so to me id rather not invest in normal gameplay

[opaque stratus]

Don't base complaints/balance on -24.

[acoustic fog]

ask devs or graysun

[opaque stratus]

Even in arenas I rock purple or higher gear. Invest.

[solid dew]

@graysun bear nerfs when

[high sapphire]

yeah i just wanna play arena but nah wait timer everytime lollll. good game IM

[fluid plinth]

i invest in what i can craft and what ive found, i have like 2 good purples the rest have horrible rolls

[undone sundial]

Hello Has the HR season started?

[opaque stratus]

<@&1244905727567466539> FIX THE LEAVER PENALTY! You're killing your game.

[tender vapor]

actually crazy yall still havent fixed the leaver bs on arena just leaving it un playable the whole time its open unless you win every single match in a row

[opaque stratus]

There's what, 7 of you on. And no one can say "Hey devs we gotta do an emergency update quick and remove the one line of code that's killing our game"

[fluid plinth]

they also need to remove these BS rolls on equipment like interaction speed, why even waste my time why is this shit on my gear?

[opaque stratus]

yeah they could put magical, regular, and normal action speed as all just action speed.

[empty latch]

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splits into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Daggers damage decreased by 2.
-Rogues phys power increased by 4.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and good balance changes. EXPLAIN WHY BRING ARGUMENTS HOW if you dislike the changes Lets Make a Nice Patch Together.

[opaque stratus]

omg he spams it again. these are weird horrible changes. Why would anyone want a mode thats even more pointless with no loot

[fluid plinth]

these changes are shit ngl lol

[dawn arrow]

please stop

[empty latch]

go to player base in-game and check it out. No new players and whoever join leaves because of simple pve...

[fluid plinth]

also why do we need 14 fucking traders they can all be combined to like 4

[opaque stratus]

I am not trying to pour ssalt Ainz, it just sounds like you need a mentor more than anything to overcome the hurdles of low gear vs high gear

[terse hull]

sorry i missed the part of playr count that shows why people left the game

[opaque stratus]

I agree the beginning game is very tough, but the players who leave because of this are the ones that want everything handed to them for free. Good riddens.

[empty latch]

Im talking after : 1 watching podcasts, checking debates of streamers (aka spudhunter that seen a lot of players dieing to pve), i play the game for many hours thou only in 3 classes and yet this is all i could get to make a balanced patch.

[opaque stratus]

A lot of good games died because people cried about loot, but when they got what they wanted, they quit anyways because they ran out of stuff to aim for.

[dawn arrow]

how about instead of nerfing everything you just buff the other classes if you think they're too weak

[acoustic fog]

Please recommend me some games until DaD becomes playable.

[empty latch]

Ironmace is a company...if they pay the 30 bucks for that mode with no loot no quests only pve its fine, they got their money.

[solid dew]

dawg nerf the damage in this game

[void mountain]

Controvertial opinion-
Revert existing lock nerfs
Nerf their base MS
Make phantomize require a campfire.

[dawn arrow]

also 3 extra seconds for shriek of weakness is ridiculous. Would make it pointless to use

[empty latch]

im not playing since the last patch the game , i will play it for quests later so i recommend: Dragon age Origins with expasion in this order, awakening and witch hunter.

[terse hull]

ive been saying this for ages, the warlock spells are strong but so are all spells and wepaons if they make contact

but phantomize as it is, is imo the strongest ability in the entire game and the only ones that even come close are shapeshift and sprint

[void mountain]

Sprint doesnt make you immune and phaze through enemies

[opaque stratus]

You want a good balance patch, nerf ranged damage as a whole, nerf PVE damage as a whole, increase jump height to just enough to go over mobs so you can't get stuck. decrease dagger damage, add more parry effects for other weapons with block IE: Quarterstaff, bardichi, ect. And combine useless traits like regular action speed magical action speed and action speed. The end

Also nerf all hitscan abilities, like half of warlocks kit and longbows so the aimbotters aren't so strong

[dawn arrow]

why not just delete the magic classes at that point

[acoustic fog]

Thanks mate, i'll replay Dragon age, it;s been a long time.
Arena is unplayable, HR is full on nakeds, 125+ are bad,
At this point they should revert the changes back to normal games only white and play HR with gear

[tender vapor]

skill issue whole paragraph

[opaque stratus]

Nah, i just don't want this to be a fully ranged game like fortnite. It's pointless to be a melee on an open arena map with verticality

[dawn arrow]

Everybody moaning about arena, but some people play PVE. Those changes would make the classes unplayable for that

[empty latch]

Hotfix X i got Muted 15 min for this, i got again 2 hours muted..if i get permanently muted im fine even with that i dont play anymore DAD , this is my last stand.
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splits into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Daggers damage decreased by 2.
-Rogues phys power increased by 4.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and good balance changes. EXPLAIN WHY BRING ARGUMENTS HOW if you dislike the changes Lets Make a Nice Patch Together.

[balmy marlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daw6f2DhcR0 I think this video encapsulates a big issue very well (not my video)

[opaque stratus]

This is coming from a ranger with a signed legendary windlass crossbow one tapping people constantly. feels bad.

[desert orchid]

they gotta change being able to bhop 4 times in a row at max movespeed while bandaging/surging

[opaque stratus]

DM me i'll show you my videos of how OP all things ranged are.

[solid dew]

Why?

[terse hull]

if you can jump over all mobs you can jump over players too, getting mob-stuck is a skill issue 90% of the time

the rest i mostly agree with, id like to see the game be more melee focused and less kiting overall

dagger damage is rough bc as it is they already scale horribly with strenght and most of their power is true phys, and true phys is capped at like 7 if you have the best necklace for it, i feel like the upper end needs scaled down more than the lower end for sure, so i think making frost amulet split its atributes between true phys and something kinda useless for combat like reg interaction speed would be a nice compromise

[weary dagger]

are they gonna fix penalty leaving?

[subtle heart]

Make cutthroat work on skeleton mages

[desert orchid]

because macros exist?

[opaque stratus]

@terse hull I haven't been stuck since pre-lawsuit. I am saying to make it more new player friendly.

[solid dew]

what

[terse hull]

fs, but i think it should stay, it teaches you (rather brutally) about spacing and proper pathing

you should absolutely be punished for getting mob swarmed, but i do get annoyed when a random enemy is just standing in a doorway while im trying to run away from someone

[opaque pier]

is potion trials not working for anyone else?

[dawn arrow]

please stop

[desert orchid]

so u support macroing to get an advantage over others? not cool bro

[empty latch]

no

[opaque stratus]

I agree, but it's like the number one thing noobs complain about because higher level players (myself included) will intentionally train the entire dungeon to their spawning area and pin them in. Then double jump/Hide and laugh

[solid dew]

What is "macroing" sir?

[terse hull]

potion trials is kinda bugged atm, its supposed to be sdone on ruins depsite the text, and sometimes it doesnt register all the potions 😦

but it is able to be completed if you do it on ruins

[desert orchid]

cheating 0.5

[solid dew]

??? You said bunnyhop healing needs to go. How is that cheating?

[void mountain]

Just want to point out this is the ONLY rpg in existence where melee dont get a "charge" / "dash forward" skill, but ranged classes get immunity and are at MS cap
And no. Sprint is not a charge/dash- its a run at the same speed as casters for 2 seconds skill(it decays fast af)

[acoustic fog]

revert warlock nerf, but add charges to spamable spells, so you force them to use a campfire (like any other caster in this game), nerf fighter, and nerf ranged damage overall, so we can put a stop to this door hugging annoying meta, where no one dares to commit unless the enemy team is badly injured due to the high amount of ranged damage

[opaque stratus]

yeah agreed alfredo

[desert orchid]

im saying theres ppl using macros to do huge bunnyhops. Bunnyhops can stay but they gotta add some limit like how apex did it where u can bhop a few times while healing but slow down if u bhop too many times

[vestal raft]

anyone knows how to solve this bug?https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1048026232001929230/1289320371903926283/image.png?ex=66f864ab&is=66f7132b&hm=4fd345c12dd455c8ea79a575f1094e755027b4bf4fa40d735d291cb71181b70b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=836&height=468

[opaque stratus]

Here's a bold idea though. Before we look at balance changes. LET'S FIX THE GAME BREAKING BUGS LIKE THE LEAVER PENALTY IN ARENA. C'mon <@&1244905727567466539> WAKE UP!!!

[terse hull]

a macro is like

say you wanna jump then 180, thats 2 (or more inputs) but you set up a script that makes it so when you hit "k" (just any input or button on your keyboard mouse), it runs a script that presses spacebar (jump key) and then moves your mouse the equivalent of 180 degree turn tothe left or right)

so basically you can press 1 button and have multiple things happen in the order you desire

this can be useful for things that maybe require precise timing (bard songs) orgoofy movement tech (bhopping, shapeshift launching) or other nonsense

the reasson people would say this is like cheating is bc it removes all skill expression from a given task, you arent hitting some nice bhops, you just held k and your macro script did the bhopping for you in the desired direction

[solid dew]

oh nah....scripting is in the game???

[empty latch]

ranged is fine to me.. you can dodge, they must aim, warlock had it comming the cop deal even now good damage, the problem with it was the kiting ability, as a caster he didnt need knowledge or will to much to deal impressive damage hence the kiting ability wich they wear - lightfoot boots, loose trousers(not mandatory), no top and shadow mask on top they have felidian race...only with rawhide gloves maybe? so phantomize should give no speed bonuses and it should have been charged, cop nerf isnt big and they need to stop kiting hence get stuff for casters like knowledge.

[desert orchid]

I dont want them to remove bhop but the macros are crazy rn its too busted gotta reel in from the top end but keep the game fun

[opaque stratus]

@solid dew all kinds of cheating exists. I'm more inclined to ban the esp hackers, aimbotters, wallhackers, fly hackers, ect. before worrying about macros. The game does a good job of being anti macro already with things like mouse targeting for spell selection

[terse hull]

scripting like macros isnt happening in thge game runtime, its just forcing certain inputs that get read by the game

which is a lot different than running lua scripts in gmod to get an in game esp overlay, but still impactful

also relavant that a lot of other scripting like esp overlays anymore are also a bit external to the game, bc its much harder to detect

[empty latch]

+1

[vestal raft]

i just want they fix this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1048026232001929230/1289320371903926283/image.png?ex=66f864ab&is=66f7132b&hm=4fd345c12dd455c8ea79a575f1094e755027b4bf4fa40d735d291cb71181b70b&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=836&height=468&

[empty latch]

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splits into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Daggers damage decreased by 2.
-Rogues phys power increased by 4.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and good balance changes. EXPLAIN WHY BRING ARGUMENTS HOW if you dislike the changes Lets Make a Nice Patch Together.

[opaque stratus]

You'll never beat macros because they can be raw inputted with things like a razer mouse. And in this game they aren't majorly present or advantageous. The aimbotters headlocking you with a rondel or a longbow are more problematic

or the vast* majority of hitscan abilities in warlock kit

[terse hull]

^^^^ this all day

macros are cringe and you are not as good as you think you are if you are using them

but the difference between macros and actual aimbot/esp is like the difference in having really well kept high quality skis, and having a ski mobile

[opaque stratus]

When you see someone cleaning out a lobby with hitscan spells like Zap, Curse, Explosion, ect. They are probably aimbotting. FYI.

Even longbows are fast enough projectile speed and non existant bulletfall and can be aimbotted with high accuracy.

Ray of darkness is the most cringe and obvious thing to aimbot. Watching the death replays of some of these cheaters is yucky.

Also, for those that don't know. You can enable death replays in the options menu

[quaint sluice]

Change rookie lobbies to custom game thats essentially what youre describing

[forest parcel]

did the alchemist quest get fixed?

[opaque stratus]

Private custom games where loot is self contained to that mode I could see being neat

[dapper junco]

are the servers dying? just been disconected from the game menu twice lol

[terse hull]

the name is kinda irrelavant imo, they could name "SelfSucking Lobby" and its the same thing either way just funnier the first time or two you read it bc shock value

dude just keeps posting the same post self-snitching that he doesnt really understand the meta every 5 mins

[empty latch]

i discribed so people dont get bite my @ss

[opaque stratus]

For learning bosses without spending 30+ minutes getting to inferno I could see lootless private lobbies with custom rulesets being beneficial

[quaint sluice]

you mean like there is loot but can only be used in the custom game?

[opaque stratus]

yeah, or turned off, spawned in, ect.

[empty latch]

that splits the player base.

[quaint sluice]

If youre going inferno you might as well go test servers cuz theres no ruins and nobody plays it so its a 15 min wait not 30

[terse hull]

like the practice raids in EFT

you can bring whatever in, its a normal map and game, but you come back to lobby with exactly what you went in with nothing more, nothing less

[quaint sluice]

i didnt know that existed i kept losing stuff so i uninstalled the game

[opaque stratus]

I don't need to learn the bosses, I can solo them all. HMU if you need help. But a place for noobs to spam them would be good. I feel like I only run into the same handful of players in HR inferno bosses/frost wyvern. The advice about the test servers is good advice

[terse hull]

r i p

ive lost more than i could remember in tarkov, but i cant play that game anymore, the cheating is absurd, the quests are mid, and the levelling makes cheaters/sweats look like they are playing cod when im stuck in hyper realism bleed out from a 9mm simulator

just not for me anymore, but ill admit some of that is skill issue

[fading pasture]

FIX LEAVER PENTALTY FIX LEAVER PENALTY FIX LEAVER PENALTY FIX LEAVER PENTALTY FIX LEVER PENALTY

[opaque stratus]

This ^

[quaint sluice]

Yeah the hyper realism is whats really annoying for the damage to body parts

[terse hull]

fr, like i dont want to play a game where i have to bring 18 different meds to perform surgery on my abdomen and legs when some dude beams me with a rifle from 100m

[empty latch]

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splits into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Daggers damage decreased by 2.
-Rogues phys power increased by 4.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and good balance changes. EXPLAIN WHY BRING ARGUMENTS HOW if you dislike the changes Lets Make a Nice Patch Together.

[opaque stratus]

Cheating in games has peaked for sure. Estimates more than half of players now. It's insane because with stuff like anyBRAIN we have the tech to ban them. But companies won't do it because of greed. Cheaters spend money too.

[quaint sluice]

and if youre shot in the legs youre dead no matter what because you not only have to heal it youre too slow to get to cover before the guy kills you

[twin stream]

It has to be posted a few more times and sdf will see this and make all those changes. Keep fighting the good fight

[terse hull]

fr looking at the sales count when EFT has a banwave is so telling

see 3,500 people get banned and then watch 3,500 people buy the game, i wonder what happened there

[empty latch]

check Warthunder last year ban wave, its a f2p game yet they let cheaters pile up and they dropped an casual update...that week over 150 .000 players has been banned with another 50.000 in that mounth fallowing.

[empty latch]

i might be muted permanently from this server by then but yeah

[opaque stratus]

@empty latch Remove the fighter line, the rogue line, the druid line, the monster speed line, change warlock spells to cost more health or have charges instead of more knowledge, and change the word "Rookies" to "Private" and repost imho.

@empty latch its a common tactic to let cheaters get away with it then ban them in waves for profit. This way they feel they can keep getting away with it for another year or so even though they actually get caught immediately. It tricks them into spending more money starting over.

[terse hull]

i swear the bard line is the dumbest take, feels like its from someone who has never touched bard, and died 3 times bc they dont understand how to engage them

you have to play a 5+ second song, and finish it will hugging your opponents face to get almost no value

[empty latch]

rondel pdr fighter is very organic ? druids getting out of any circumstances and kiting or almost instant healing isnt a problem? bring argument for why if you understand the changes

[quaint sluice]

@opaque stratus i dm you a question

[opaque stratus]

Because a PDR fighter dies instantly to magic. They have to sacrifice things like dark plate for full PDR. And because druids do no damage outside of slow ass bear form and if you die to a druid you are kind of a noob.

[empty latch]

and i dont care about cheaters in war thunder, their forums was cries and beggings because some of them invested years into the game...so yeah , it was satisfying and i agree with that company for making that way money and sustain the game all in.

[cursive shuttle]

Feels like you have never fought a good druid lol.

[opaque stratus]

@cursive shuttle I am the best druid you know >.~

[onyx cloak]

does faithfullnes perk work with smite skill on cleric?

[empty latch]

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splits into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Daggers damage decreased by 2.
-Rogues phys power increased by 4.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and good balance changes. EXPLAIN WHY BRING ARGUMENTS HOW if you dislike the changes Lets Make a Nice Patch Together.

[opaque stratus]

But - health is - health. and our scaling sucks until max gear, which means you should also be max gear vs me.

[blazing latch]

Am I the only one that queues and sees the same players? Either the game is dying or the player list is an inflated number.

[terse hull]

or you queue at roughly the same time as people you were just in a raid with or happen to have a similar schedule to, and areon the same server as them bc you happen to livein the same part of the world

[cursive shuttle]

I highly doubt that honestly.

No druid really goes bear form. Panther is the best go too. Especially in HR. Where it's easier to get in and get out. Bear form is extremely niche.

[opaque stratus]

Engage druid bear form with ranged only. Engage all other druid forms with explosive bottle and melee and laugh maniacally as you stomp them.

[empty latch]

in order to fix the "legal esp" lag spike problem to deter where a player is they make somehow that players from a certain area / region to join together into the same lobbyes now that the number of players that do play the game decreased you have a more intensifying felling you and a few others are playing over and over.

[opaque stratus]

Panther is a big target that no matter how you build is very squishy. A good druid will kill you with a legendary spear before risking instant death.

But most of the time its rat to bear, or precast restore, summon treant, then bear

[cursive shuttle]

I mean, I def don't think druid is that strong personally. I think their rat form is annoying and allows for too much mobility. But they kinda suffer in most other areas for it.

The biggest issue is their ability to leave, full heal, come back, and not give you time to breathe.

[opaque stratus]

Throw a torch at a rat, instant kill.

[dawn arrow]

please stop

[empty latch]

no

[opaque stratus]

Agreed. Ainz. get someone to mentor you, rethink things, then post again if you must.

[cursive shuttle]

I would LOVE to see you throw a torch at rat and CONSISTENTLY hit that.

I am not saying you cannot. But to do it consistently is just bs lol.

[onyx cloak]

does faithfullnes perk work with smite skill on cleric?

[quaint sluice]

why must rogues be so dumb

[opaque stratus]

it's actually easier than you think. And if you cant aim the torch (which has a big hit box already) throw a drum. even easier.

[cursive shuttle]

Yes.

[empty latch]

no, your my mentor, i drop you my problems you fix them your an DEV right now to me.

[cinder prairie]

People keep talking about "paying people to help with quests" where tf do you find these people xD

[cursive shuttle]

Def a dru, sure. But in no world are you hitting with that torch as often as you make it sound so easy to do.

You're ebtter off using lanters and bottles.

[opaque stratus]

Paying for help you say? I'm listening >:) jk btw, i help for free just hmu in game

[sacred briar]

when you lose in arena are you supposed to lose everything? Or anything at all?

[terse hull]

just go to gathering hall and ask for help, you might run into someone who is feeling helpful or is on the same quest anyways

[empty latch]

i put an advertisment as " i pay 3k gold for someone to solo wyvern and complete my quest"

[opaque stratus]

3k? i got u boo

[cursive shuttle]

Warlocks are far more cancerous imo than druids are. Glad they got nerfed. Freaking needed it.

[empty latch]

😛 already done, i do quests on fighter only so its hard for me not to warlocking the bloody wyvern

[opaque stratus]

I do quests on warlock only cause it's easy and fast. I pvp on other classes

[empty latch]

wander why...

[cinder prairie]

How do you "pay them" though

[opaque stratus]

Meet in trading hall @cinder prairie

[empty latch]

they put an cheap very cheap item into market with 3k gold price and i buy it

[cinder prairie]

Ohhh I see. Okay

[high falcon]

Guys i have a really cool idea, what if warlock had an extra skill called necromancy that allows you to raise up to 3 zombies, mummies and or skeletons to follow you around?

[empty latch]

by the way they can report for scam 😛 so dont try not to pay.

[balmy minnow]

im assuming there is still a CD on arena loss rn?

[opaque stratus]

Add "Ability to report teammates for leaving" to your spam.

[empty latch]

that's bs...if we get a necromancer class i want minimum 6 monsters around that class

[ornate gust]

does potion trial quest work?

[high falcon]

Yeah but if you wanted to you could use phantomise with it instead of using spells

[near swallow]

Anyone else getting a leaver penalty every time an arena match ends? I'm hitting exit to lobby after the victory screen and still getting hit with it

[opaque stratus]

@ornate gust yes but on the wrong map, go to crypts to do it.

[balmy minnow]

answered my question. happens to everyone on loss. nice self report on only losing tho lol 😉

[empty latch]

warlock doesnt need a new build...it has demonlock it has caster its has hybrid it has enough. Im talking about a Necromancer class..

[terse hull]

phantomize needs reworked, it needs charges like second wind that can be regend, way too strong with just a cooldown

[opaque stratus]

Speaking of which. leaver penalty is probably done now. HMU in DM's if you want to continue. and <@&1244905727567466539> GET OFF BUTTS. FIX BUG

[near swallow]

hey man 2 bad games in a row haha gimme a break

[high falcon]

Charges might be a cool idea but i feel like phantomise is kinda weak tbh, it makes you vulnerable to magic you can be runned into traps or into a position you dont want to unphamtomise in. But maybe your right

[empty latch]

Hotfix X and x
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splits into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Daggers damage decreased by 2.
-Rogues phys power increased by 4.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and good balance changes. EXPLAIN WHY BRING ARGUMENTS HOW if you dislike the changes Lets Make a Nice Patch Together.

[loud hornet]

FIX LEAVER PENTALTY FIX LEAVER PENALTY FIX LEAVER PENALTY FIX LEAVER PENTALTY FIX LEVER PENALTY

[high falcon]

If they make a necromancer class i hope they name it dark priest

[terse hull]

becoming immune to all phys damage on a ~20 second cooldown and have no collide with any beings is way stronger than any util possessd by any other class

and is most of the reason warlock meta has reigned supreme for as long and frequently as it has

[balmy minnow]

i was excited to come back for my bi weekly arena sessions but sadly, i cannot win every match and if i have to sit there for too long i will become confused and distracted and confused by the leaf. alas, i cannot play dank and danker this night.

[high falcon]

Sounds like they need to nerf the cooldown, 20 seconds is pretty low considering fighter has a 28 second sprint cooldown

[hollow narwhal]

https://www.twitch.tv/lexcessive/clip/AltruisticHilariousSamosaSaltBae-d6BS30BP83F8ZCig
WHAT WAS THIS?

[loud hornet]

Then you smoke more while waiting and end up to high to function. Vicious cycle

[terse hull]

maybe, but i think it wouold feel better for everyone involved if it has 2-3 charges that needed regened at a cmapfire instead of an absurdly long cooldown, bc i think itd have to be almost a minute long cooldown to not be as OP as it is rn

[balmy minnow]

its already happening. the edits are breaking my brain and i am giving up. i blame ironmace and the failed arena implementation.

[high falcon]

Im not saying it needs to be a 28 seconds cooldown maybe something like 35-40 seconds?

[loud hornet]

Ironmace should refund me all the herb I had to blow through dealing with this

[wild elm]

im perma leaver queue in arena but im playing the whole match

[cinder prairie]

Hold up I'm eating lunch

[unborn patrol]

how do you build bear form so well

[terse hull]

no i know what you meant, im just saying that i think warlocks would probably rather have 2-3 per campfire with the CD, over having no charges and a 45+sec coldown

bc it needs to be long enough cooldown that you cant just disengage, reset while you wait for it to come up, then push back in as many times as you like

so either a stupid long cooldown so that they cant just reengage before their opponent has time to reset, or charges so they can only pull that trick a few times per raid before they need to burn consumable to regen it

[balmy minnow]

delete warlocks and druids. buff wizard. that is the only option.

[gloomy escarp]

hey has druid been nerfed yet

[empty latch]

no

[gloomy escarp]

damnnnn..............

[empty latch]

please stop

[high falcon]

Hmm, maybe

[balmy minnow]

there is no such thing as a druid nerf. there is only a very final solution.

[rose bolt]

does anyone know when theyre going to patch the arena leaving penalty?

[empty latch]

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splits into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Daggers damage decreased by 2.
-Rogues phys power increased by 4.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock spells costs more knowledge.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and good balance changes. EXPLAIN WHY BRING ARGUMENTS HOW if you dislike the changes Lets Make a Nice Patch Together.

[opaque stratus]

Don't propose changes that nerf a characters identity. Add tooltips on loading screens for how to creatively/properly engage them.

[balmy minnow]

i cant tell if this is the best satire ive ever read or not.

[rose bolt]

they could at least add permanent and longer cooldowns on transformations, fix the stats of the transformations. one character should not be able to be a tank and self heal quickly and do tons of damage and be stealthy/fast

[opaque stratus]

This is the problem with games, people cry about what they don't understand until it's nerfed and the easist classes are buffed.

[solar sage]

Is there a bug with the alchemist quest?

[balmy minnow]

but for real tho. that wasnt satire? you might be the most libbed up dnd player in existence.

[high falcon]

I hope instead of making a necromancer class they add somekind of subclass/build to warlock since i like spells like dark bolt thematically

[empty latch]

sub class its a good idea , yet its very very tricky.

[opaque stratus]

Remember, the best players play the WEAKEST CLASSES on purpose and MAKE THEM LOOK GOOD. Then you cry about it being too strong and nerf an already struggling class. Just learn the game, the counters, the mechanics ect. And then do something no one does... Get creative.

[balmy minnow]

confirmed big multiclass shill promoting incremental change. resist!

[high falcon]

Fighter basically has a sub class called slayer, since the perk greatly changes how you will play fighter and removes plate armour

[empty latch]

it can be added as a subclass yes, yet it isnt. Its just a build.

[high falcon]

I mean you do build around it but its only a single perk on its own

[high falcon]

I do like multiclass but the way it was implemented certainly was unplayable and encouraged few meta builds

[brave holly]

So. Is Troll getting aggro'd to someone who enters the room intended or are the devs just shit? Mid boss fight*

[high falcon]

Hahahah

[opaque stratus]

Intended mechanic to prevent ganks @brave holly Abuse it like I do and wipe teams via troll solo.

[brave holly]

Ughhh brooooo its so baaaad. You dont even need to enter the room and can ruin the whole thing

[opaque stratus]

You can abuse it both ways btw. As defender and gankers

[brave holly]

TEACH ME lmao how do i use it defensivly? cause im getting teamed on in solo's

[opaque stratus]

Troll is my 4th teammate ❤️ DM me

<@&1244905727567466539> FIX THE LEAVER BUG. I NEED ENEMIES! It's starting to affect me on win streaks too. 7 minute queue times

[brave holly]

ON wins???????

[hard rock]

The HUH?

[opaque stratus]

Yeah because all of the losers are banned

[naive jewel]

can we please get a hotfix for the arena leaver penalty bugh

[brave holly]

W game W devs

[naive jewel]

300 sec is bs

[plain fox]

Well, if anyone new need some help in the game, dm me!

[brave holly]

He's a scammer

[burnt marten]

i keep getting que banned for afking while i didnt afk what do i do?

[empty latch]

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splits into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Daggers damage decreased by 2.
-Rogues phys power increased by 3.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock CoP miss - self cast.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and good balance changes. EXPLAIN WHY BRING ARGUMENTS HOW if you dislike the changes Lets Make a Nice Patch Together.

[plain fox]

Ahhh, typical Caboose reply. I'll send Sarge after you

[opaque stratus]

You only get the leaver penalty if you lose so gear up! But we all suffer from it because even winners get longer queue times when all opponents are banned by it.

[high ruin]

Can someone answer me : Does "additional weapon damage" add it immediately? Like while looking at said item

[brave holly]

Sarge?! Thems fightin words

[plain fox]

https://tenor.com/view/caboose-red-vs-blue-i-demand-cookies-gif-21967124

[opaque stratus]

@high ruin additional weapon damage applies BEFORE other bonuses. think of it as your weapon literally reading as one damage higher

[brave holly]

lol

[high falcon]

if it was up to me id rename warlock to dark priest

[high ruin]

Yeah but i mean like if i have weapon 1 and weapon 2, if weapon 1 has no buffs, and has 38 damage, and weapon 2 has the enchant, and 40 damage, is that how it shows? or is it 42?

[brave holly]

If it was up to me id listen to my player base

[plain fox]

That would be to realistic to an actual priest with the dark stuff they do in rl

[late dawn]

hey so how do the gear score brackets work, is it just lobbies for <25 and then uncapped after that>

[high ruin]

0 - 24, 25 - 124, 125+ keep in mind this is gear you ENTER the dungeon with, if they find gear score 500 in there, it's still 25-124.

[opaque stratus]

If weapon 1 is 40 damage and has +1 additional weapon damage, and weapon 2 (on the same set dual wielded) has 41 damage + 1 additional weapon damage, your weapons are basically now 42 and 43 damage as both are receiving both enhancements

[brave holly]

W game W game W game W game W game W game W game W game W game W game W game W game W game W game W game W game W game W game

just remember W game

it means this game is dog shit

[opaque stratus]

idk what that means Caboose

[high ruin]

Im still a bit confused, sorry. what I mean is if weapon shows it does 38 damage, but has 1 additional weapon damage, is it dealing 37 + 1, or 38 + 1 so 39?
I've had two spears that are same quality, but one with enchant says it deals 40, and another one that only dealt 38 without enchant

[empty latch]

39

[high ruin]

Is it common for weapons to have different damage slightly? even without damage enchants?

[opaque stratus]

it doesn't show the damage on the weapon, you have to scroll down to the stats in game to see the combo damage. The weapon reads only its original damage. So it is now 39

[wild elm]

they did not fix it even with 124 u can match with 225+

[opaque stratus]

@high ruin yes

[empty latch]

yes

[cinder prairie]

@opaque stratus why did you want me to go to a gathering Hall?

[high ruin]

@empty latch Thank you two!

[opaque stratus]

@cinder prairie what a throwback. I was answering your question to how one performs a gold exchange and I said "Trade hall" not gathering hall

[cinder prairie]

Yeah so how do you do that in gathering Hall?

[empty latch]

you asked how to trade with the guy that killed wyvern for you, you can trade but 3k its not possible to trade through trade option so they did as i told you, a intact skull at 3k gold and i buyed .

[opaque stratus]

It's very possible to trade through trade option. I do it all the time.

[empty latch]

not 3k gold at once..

[opaque stratus]

Yes. You make multiple exchanges, or trade value items instead of gold. Like keys, gold bags, ect.

[high falcon]

They should add a skill to wizard that lets you meditate and leave your body in a state where you cant do anything or be seen but you can walk through doors a certain distance from your body

[cinder prairie]

Meditate is already good but I like the idea

[opaque stratus]

@high falcon neat idea. Maybe for another class though

[high falcon]

Druid?

[high ruin]

I feel like it should be the opposite, Mediate pushes you out of the body a certain distance and you must walk back to get back in your body

[cinder prairie]

Maybe like a psionic class

[opaque stratus]

I was thinking that yeah. Dreamwalk lets you pass through stuff why not doors

[high falcon]

Yeah maybe druid instead, it leaves you vulnerable but lets you scout. That could work too

[waxen kayak]

anyone else disconnect every match?

[brave holly]

Because they can already jump through them as rats. That would be absolutely busted if you could just get hit and walk through walls

[opaque stratus]

74% of my deaths come from mobs being @ the door when I open it. Phasing back through would be neat

Getting sandiwiched at the door the second you open it is never fun. Albeit that it's my own risky playstyle that usually ends me up there but even just taking damage from something you 100% couldn't avoid sucks.

[broken tapir]

The way the extraction was designed foster betrayal, it's a bit horible for team play and bonding that you have this one way outs.

I changed my whole strategy to be the first one to ditch my team.

I even escaped a guy that wanted to fight to to walk past him into the entrance he was blocking.

[high falcon]

I feel like the idea behind dreamwalk and phantomise is that only things connected to living things you can walk through like a sword for instance, doesnt explain why you cant turn door handles tho

[warm basin]

They seriously need to do something about longswords. This gamblers meta is so boring. you get a player dead to rights and he just starts posing hoping for a free kill. its such a broken feature. to be able to potentially win purely by luck,

[opaque stratus]

If I can pass through an inanimate object like a sword or a bardichi, why not a door.

[violet sparrow]

is Potion Trials for ruins or just the crypt?

[opaque stratus]

@warm basin I've always proposed the idea of a universal "Grapple" button to break guards

[high ruin]

think everything for that specific dungeon works on all floors

[night folio]

Has anyone else had a lobby where all the other players are disconnected and you can just kill them all? I walked into 3 people frozen on a dead cyclops body

[opaque stratus]

<@&1244905727567466539> Give us a universal "Grapple" button to break guards and stall combos in a clinch please. It would be so much fun to mix stuff up. Also... FIX THE LEAVER BUG

[balmy harbor]

FIX THE STUPID LEAVER PENALTY BUG

[empty latch]

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splits into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Daggers damage decreased by 2.
-Rogues phys power increased by 3.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock CoP damage reduced to 7(as it was ) DoT damage unchanged.
-Warlock Phantomize can be used 2 times then recharged at campfire.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m, resourcefullness decreased by 5.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses, pvp disabled.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and good balance changes. EXPLAIN WHY BRING ARGUMENTS HOW if you dislike the changes Lets Make a Nice Patch Together.

[opaque stratus]

Bro you gotta stop spamming this. Everyone has told you these are bad changes. You're talking about nerfing the very identity of some characters. Get out of the discord and come play the game. I'll teach you how to overcome every one of these failings.

[waxen kayak]

Hotfix X: I no longer disconnect from every match.

[empty latch]

almost noone except you, yet these changes has been brought by many other players with my being the one i seen at podcast with sdf onepeg and jay about slingshot/bola for barbs and a skill called " leap" wich i dont like 😛

[brave holly]

TEAMERS TEAMERS AND FUCKING TEAMERS

[empty latch]

skill issue rofl

[waxen kayak]

U RITE BRO U RITE

[brave holly]

Queueing solos just to go to cyclops AND troll same game WATCHING TWO PEOPLE KILL BOSS AND LOOT IT

W game

[high ruin]

just join them and make it three

W GAME

[glossy swallow]

remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug remove the penalty bug

[warm basin]

Sounds good. there definetly needs to be a counter to riposte as it just stalemates the fight. had the longest fight with a warlock last game. Eventually i had to give up and leave as every time i had him dead to rights he would whip out the long and potentially onetap me. its such bs :L

[empty latch]

and they call me a spammer!! helloooo , thou the guy had enough i can feel it

[warm basin]

whats the penalty bug

[glossy swallow]

if you que into arenas and finish the match it randomly gives you leavers penalty of 300 seconds

[warm basin]

oh. i dont play arena. dont know why people do

[rapid cipher]

Whichone less toxic here or general chat ?

[dapper junco]

neither

and both

[rapid cipher]

Delete blalbalba nerf blablabla things also here ?

[chilly crag]

It is game discussion soo

[rapid cipher]

'Delete class ' ıs not opinion

[dapper junco]

it is though. pls delete bards

[high falcon]

Add necromancy skill to warlock

[warm basin]

i mean im maining rogue now and i would support deleting rogue.

[high falcon]

Brain damage

[rapid cipher]

Ok ı get it this channel also toxic thnks 😄

[dapper junco]

theres no where safe

[warm basin]

quiet rogue main. no one cares

[acoustic fog]

why servers came from bad to worse? Players are leaving and server quality are going down

[soft crest]

Day 3 of no blue Crystal Balls for my quest

[high ruin]

day XX since i started playing, have no friends to revive for shrine of sacrifice

[empty latch]

skill issue fr:))

[soft crest]

FeelsSadMan, I can help you tomorrow when I’m on

[rapid cipher]

Kill ur team mate

[soft crest]

Most of the time , random teammates just leave when they die, they don’t usually wait for a possible ress

[chrome nexus]

can you still bring an inventory of green gear into HR to reach 225gs

[high ruin]

It's alright, dumb broad don't offer me anything good anyway

[high falcon]

Just started trying wizard since the buff man its fun

[rapid cipher]

They can leave not problem you can still rez for quest

[warm basin]

yea but why would you. plenty of cheap epics to bring

[chrome nexus]

true ty

[warm basin]

weapons are best. epic two handers are chefs kiss

[topaz cargo]

wtf kind of a rookie lobby only lets you boss 💀

[high falcon]

Shouldnt lycan and lizard people have a movement penalty for not having to wear helmets? seems kinda busted

[empty latch]

one like in description.

[topaz cargo]

maybe like 3 of those suggestions were reasonable, the rest seemed like it was your own rage fueled opinions after getting rolled with a kit lmao

[empty latch]

oh no, im not a rookie at all 😛 the oppinions has been accumulated and debated with the players that wanted them, so yeah i did a mistake because total number of points must be 105 / character and taken 5 from resourcefullness from bard it must be added somewhere else wich breaks bards even more.

[gleaming torrent]

bad hot fix tbh on many diffrent levels

[runic fossil]

Leaver penalty bug in arena is ruining something so fun, it sucks butts

[empty latch]

gotta explain and how to stop rondel fighters pdr abusers, druids ..animal zoo i dont need to explain this and warlocks kiting abilities.

[timber sand]

guys please help, when me and my friend Q we get "please select a region" any1 know whats the problem?

[boreal fox]

Any tips for PvE?

[gleaming torrent]

what class do you play

[empty latch]

above the dungeon map its a "select server" option, you select there any server your close to,.

[hard spear]

when i /w somebody, how do i go back to lobby chat?

[empty latch]

fighter 😛 but last season mained rogue and barbarian... but they are F tier classes and cant do quests well on them so i joined the meta

[timber sand]

i did but nothing changed, still the same message

[gloomy escarp]

unironically so fucking tired of pdr fighters

[wise fossil]

Hello! After game in arena all my staff go from Looted to Hendled. Its normal sing???? I will lose all if play more in my staff?

[fluid tundra]

How does proximity chat work?
I can't seem to find an input for push to talk in controls, and I haven't seen any icon to show that I'm speaking either

[empty latch]

you dont lose items for being handled.

[gleaming torrent]

with fighter you can block / parry druids and with rondel fighter you are the rondel fighter so

[high falcon]

Guys im having deja vu

[empty latch]

i know...reposte its also broken but atleast can be avoided so i call it skill.

[empty latch]

tommorrow you gonna wake up this morning! that's deja vu, you already lived today.

[high falcon]

Ive lived this moment a thousand times...

[native crown]

hey could someone tell me how to whisper to other players I dont know how?

[empty latch]

that's some weed i wanna try

[worn nova]

B button activates it

[high falcon]

No drugs involved man

[gleaming torrent]

why is reposte broken i think your defintion of balance is way off is all i

[high falcon]

Reposte is pretty balanced i think

[empty latch]

the damage of it can 2 taps any class so..kind of, anyway its a skill by all means.

[fluid tundra]

i was told that, but i've seen no indicator for it and no one ever seems to respond in nay way
is it party specific?

[worn nova]

the indicator is in the bottom left, where your character card is
and you can switch between party and proximity by pressing the escape button and looking at the bottom left

[fluid tundra]

alright, thanks, i'll try it out in my next match

[floral girder]

can you craft brave hunter's this week?

[worn nova]

people rarely speak in dnd

[high falcon]

Not in my case

[empty latch]

Hotfix X
Changes:
-Fighter weapon mastery splits into: Ranged weapon Mastery and Melee weapon mastery.
-Daggers damage decreased by 2.
-Rogues phys power increased by 3.
-Druid Shapeshift Mastery removed.
-Barbarians got slingshot/bola ranged weapons.(SDF proposal into a podcast).
-Monsters into the normal dungeon movement speed increased as the Elites with no other changes.
-Warlock Phantomize can be used 2 times then recharged at campfire.
-Bards shriek of weakness time to cast increased by 3 sec and radius decreased by 2m.
-Rookie lobbyes added in wich theres no loot, no rewards, no quests count, just monsters and bosses, pvp disabled.
-Ladders animation character added.

See you into dungeon! what you guys think about these changes ? feel free to bring arguments and good balance changes. EXPLAIN WHY BRING ARGUMENTS HOW if you dislike the changes Lets Make a Nice Patch Together.

[worn nova]

ok

[high falcon]

EU servers people talk allot, it might be the server your on

[quaint sluice]

FINALLY SOLOD SPECTRAL KNIGHT FOR THE FIRST TIMEEEE

[empty latch]

ggs W

[high falcon]

Ainz how is the great tomb of nazzarick?

[small radish]

does gear for arena need to be looted or can it be handled?

[empty latch]

im making one right now after the pic from web on minecraft, aint playing DaD until i can play either rogue or barbarian as main.