game-discussion

[plain marsh]

at the end of the day, i might be disabled, but at most it's going to last another year. in one year from now you are still going to be the same miserable terminally online person that you are now that thinks its ok to make fun of someone for being disabled. honestly i dont even think i need pity from you. im the one that pities you. whatever is going on in your life is clearly much more difficult. im sorry

[twilit viper]

hold the lineeeeee

[last stump]

when will servers be back up

[gleaming edge]

could careless if ur disabled this is the internet u are nothing more then text on a screen at the end of the day ur still caught up on not recieving pity for no reason

[graceful storm]

ive been playing for the past 20 minutes where is everyone

[twin dirge]

I"M HOLDING, LEGS ARE TIRED

[plain marsh]

take my cane 🩼 you got this soldier

[glass island]

man I just got here and you people are doing this already. Discord is a disease.

[graceful storm]

youre a disease. @plain marsh and @gleaming edge are angels they love each other. How dare you

[twin dirge]

THANK YOU BROTHER, I FEEL AS IF I CAN SHIT STANDING UP NOW

[twilit viper]

THE LINE!!! HOLD IT

[plain marsh]

i mean i was making a game suggestion and he suddenly took offence and hurled insults at me. then he started making fun of my disability. i'm honeslty just having fun at this point

[glass island]

ha 😐

[empty sigil]

Was goblin cave lag at least fixed, I didn't get to play before the hotfix of the hotfix

[graceful storm]

you might need to wait for the hotfix, of the hotfix, of the other hotfix... im not sure....

[twin dirge]

wait how much longer, throught it was till 7:15

[sudden aspen]

you are the bane of this discord

[sweet axle]

its up

[graceful storm]

ive been playing for the last 30 minutes idk what you ppl are doing

[oak glen]

wtf u mean u been playing last 30 min

nvm it is up

[plain marsh]

coming from you that's a compliment

[sudden aspen]

you're arguing with someone in here every single day, i can probably count the amount of people who like you with one hand

[desert frost]

i came back after making dinner and yal still typing i thinkt he channel says GAME Discussion ok go discuss ur drama in dm ty

[plain marsh]

when was the last time i was in here arguing with someone? last time i argued with you it ended with me asking 'how often do you die to pve'

[deep birch]

Coming back after a two month break, has anything significant actually changed?

[plain marsh]

Yes. What was the state of the game when you left?

[mighty sonnet]

yes. goblin caves is bigger and has new rooms, new boss, maps and high roller work differently. game honestly looks more different than ever lol

[sudden aspen]

i don't think i've ever argued about pve lol, I have yt videos explaining to people how to deal with pve in the first place

[formal moon]

In terms of maps, yes. In terms of gameplay, not really.

[deep birch]

We had quests, the new troll, and level resets right when I left

[formal moon]

So then nothing really, but rogue nerfs and map changes

[graceful storm]

plate warlock is a thing now

[formal moon]

💯 💯👆

[quaint plover]

Has the game release a trading auction house system yet?

[graceful storm]

negative

[brisk lava]

fix the lag ffffffffffffffs fffffffffffhk

[tidal pilot]

@rare star Where u at bro, I added you on discord

[empty sigil]

Man, I really don't like ruins 😦

[empty sigil]

Not much, solos was fun in crypts, but I think Ironmace was getting some pushback from the g-sellers, needed to funnel more juiced kits into the rogue/ranger meat grinder that is ruins

[formal moon]

TBH once they announced map rotation, just have not wanted to play. Each patch is just boring play

[brisk lava]

STOP ADDING NEW SHIT FIX THE LAG

[heady oyster]

Thumbs up to the last 3.

[wispy grail]

theyll fix the lag and rubberbanding in 2028. the amount of great gear ive lost to rubberbanding into a npc attack is really remarkable🙃

[brisk lava]

try casting in pvp every other step is a rubberband on cast

[sinful quail]

anyone know how to fix the game from saying updating and staying a 0%

[empty sigil]

GC is laggy mess, not allowed to play crypts. Game just keeps getting worse 😦

[vast ingot]

Cope cope

[verbal dock]

just let it update and walk away it’ll go from 0-100

[frosty onyx]

you can certainly play crypts

[unreal obsidian]

updating for 30 minutes now with no progress bar

[empty sigil]

Sorta

[full galleon]

Turn of all antivirus, including windows defender real time protection. Relaunch blacksmith as administrator, press "scan and Repair" instead of update. That worked for me.

[bitter citrus]

you can play a half lobby crypts after you already played ruins so double up on consumables. triple up if you plan on doing inferno. just make sure not to loot anything on ruins so you have room for stuff from crypts.

[frosty onyx]

this is exactly what I wanted - to go darker and darker. haven't had this much fun since I started playing; being able to go 3 levels deep

[sinful quail]

i just restarted and tried scan and it seems like its working cuz its taking some time if this doesnt work il turn off all windows defender thanks!

[storm stratus]

I like the 3 levels but wish they would replace the tiny crypts map with the large one

[spring mesa]

Thanks for giving falchions and barbs the nerfs they needed in the update ironmace. Great hotfix 👍

[frosty onyx]

more map variety incoming, we know at least

[bitter citrus]

just be glad rangers didn't get buffed again

[tame dove]

warlock new perk makes it so they cant heal off health potions

[spring mesa]

They un-quality of life’d the ui. You have to select at the top

[outer scaffold]

done on purpose. at least surg kits are phy healing now

[quasi oar]

PRICE OF POWDER?

[gleaming edge]

the price of ore doubled. so if one gold ore is worth 100 rn powder is 200

[wispy grail]

so theres no solo only map anymore.... seems like everytime they make a huge step in the right direction they take a huge step back in the next update... whatre the devs smoking cuz it must be some strong stuff

[hushed creek]

so how do we get crypts back

[chrome swift]

Click the tabs on the top of the map menu, solos duo and trios

[bitter citrus]

play through ruins and hit a red portal. it'll only be half a lobby though and your inventory will prob already be full. so short answer, you don't

[wispy grail]

thanku

[remote ibex]

What does trader affinity do exactly?

[desert frost]

unlocks different services
is it just me, or is anyone having ABSURD lag on goblin caves, wayt worse than before hotfix? fine on ruins

[frail ore]

This whole game crashing every 2 raids is really getting on my nerves

[lofty shadow]

why are barbarian players the way they are?

[keen abyss]

I lost my last two game as a ranger because when i used my triple shot, two of the three shots did not register the hit in close melee range. When will ghost arrows be fixed ?

[heady oyster]

Oogabooga?
W key?
Build it and they will come

[little gate]

hey is there anyone that can help me with downloading the game, i keep getting this 403 error so i cant even download it

[swift hedge]

focus on pvp in ruins, loot in crypts and hell

[bronze bronze]

"Magical Interaction Speed and Magical Installation Speed now based on WILL instead of KNOW." What is magical installation speed?

[storm stratus]

It adds more items/services you can buy it's like rep with that trader for completing quests

[gleaming edge]

anyone know both the second boss location on gc other then the obvious original one where troll spawned in middle

[bitter citrus]

that's great but 1 or 2 pvp kills and you're full up

[ebon quest]

Was having fun when game just crashed. Damn every update something major goes down. Wish this wasn't in EA

[plain marsh]

can you zap a phantomized warlock

@devout yacht ithought they took increased magical damage

yes you are wrong here they take extra magic damage

[devout yacht]

yes, they still take magical damage but its' reduced by 50%. They take 0% physical damage

[solar sage]

What are captured mana flakes for?

[plain marsh]

add silver dust to them and you get frosted mana flakes

@devout yacht since you are in the mood of being snotty, that was not the initial question. fireballs pass right through phantomized warlocks, so i wanted to konw if zap would hit them.

[devout yacht]

glad you could take the time to answer your own question then lol

Cunningham's Law

[tame fractal]

Hello, I have not played this gmae in a while and I wanted to get on today and when Im opened Blacksmith to try and update the game my window just freezes and it does not update at all

[twin magnet]

they should make ruins bigger, it's just a slog fest with spawn rushers

[vale vector]

delete and reinstall shoyld work

[solar sage]

No but like what can I craft with em lol

[tame fractal]

I tried that and still nothing, it will say Updating 0% and just stay there

[vale vector]

only other thing i can think of is try another internet connection like a hotspot and then reconnect to the main one

[tame fractal]

It's me and another friend having same issue, hadn't logged in for a while and it just wont update, I submit a ticket so I guess I'll see

[clever grail]

what is magical interaction speed really though

[rich bobcat]

so solos and duos can just go fuck themselves huh

[golden totem]

my friend just waited at 0% it eventually finished

[forest stirrup]

you have to verify the files in the launcher. click to cog next to play and it will let you verify

[amber ridge]

what is everyones thoughts and hot takes about the new map system where it starts as only gob caves or ruins?

[worldly briar]

why can rogue use SHIELD POTS AND INVISIBILITY

[midnight yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/pooph-pooph-dancing-pooph-commercial-dancing-poop-poop-gif-18409657877804121264

[plain marsh]

be careful suggesting that its not good people dont like that around here

[worldly briar]

i liked how it was before, how it was just showing all of them and not having to select them seperatly

[safe juniper]

u serious?
tell me why i should run ranger when 14 leg shots with a recurve does piss all to a plate fighter (true story btw!)
tell me why i should run a crossbow on a ranger when i could run an crossbow on a fighter and not get sneezed on by any other class

[amber ridge]

ya im not sure how i feel about it yet

[old ibex]

I like the idea of chaining dungeons together, but I don't like the execution that much, mostly because I hate ruins.

[worldly briar]

ruins def needs a flow rework

[bold gull]

Why tho?

[old ibex]

I can't even put my finger on what makes me dislike ruins. But I like crypts and goblin caves way more (and that's despite dying way more often in goblin caves).

[worldly briar]

its too tight for a map supposedly outdoors, like some cells just are so tight and have archers EVERYWHERE

[silk mango]

IM, nobody wants to solo the trash new goblin cave map. keep that one for duos and trios. stop being cringe by making us farm a troll pelt for a quest with an insanely low drop rate, then proceeding to forcing the solo map rotation to hit ruins twice in a row.

[bitter citrus]

you can run circles around a plate fighter. shoot them in the head not the leg. limb shots do minimal damage. why run crossbow on ranger instead of just pdr fighter? i mean, you shouldn't. pdr fighter is the ranger counter though. that wizard that gets wrecked by ranger from across the room eats pdr fighters for lunch

[main garden]

they upped it, even if they doubled it the new statistical probability that you get it after 50 runs is 63% -> 87% (if it was doubled from 2 -> 4%) assuming you kill the troll every time

[safe juniper]

I know limb shots do minimal damage
Kinda have to shoot them in the leg to stop them from closing distance and destroying me in melee. And run circles around them? Fighters are the ones running circles they have a sprint. Aiming for the head is nigh impossible when they have shields.
I see a lot more wizards/barbs/fighters/clerics than other classes in my duo games. Only other class i see less than ranger is bard.
There are better options for ranged damage imo, wizard, warlock, hell a fighter with a crossbow works fine

[bitter citrus]

pdr fighters aren't running circles around rangers man. idk i see rangers and rogues in solos. different worlds i guess. "Aiming for the head is nigh impossible when they have shields" yea thats the counter. pdr fighter has the advantage on ranger.

[silk mango]

Assuming you kill troll every time. Assuming you get a good spawn that isn't on the other side of the new map. Assuming a lot, for "doubling" the drop chance that's already horrifically low.

[signal osprey]

thank you so much for the troll pelt dropchance increase. i dont even care how much of an increase it is just seeing that made me so happy. been 3 weeks farming that thing hopefully ill see the pelt soon

[amber ridge]

pdr fighter is kinda supposed to counter ranger arrows imo, your a ranger just run away

[safe juniper]

gee i shoulda thought about that one

[silk mango]

This is the most brown nose cringe post ive read.

[main garden]

@silk mango Thats right! These quests were made to be done over 90 days, don't you ever forget that

[spring prairie]

HAH! Warlocks don't heal from healing shrines with the plate armor perk

[wooden haven]

Just wanna show my support for the decision to remove crypts from the rotation. I 100 percent agree that it helps the "Adventure" feeling. I think it'd be awesome to get to a point where one map spirals into several different ones depending on your decisions

[signal osprey]

drop chance increase on troll pelt is a w. your just a loser

[limber atlas]

not having crypts be its own map is a mistake. if anything they could create it so that from crypts you can go up into ruins and find hell portals

[wooden haven]

Doesn't make sense. Crypts are underneath ruins. They just need to expand Ruins and make it easier as a "first stage"

[silk mango]

hey, keep suckin the devs man, maybe one day they're sign a t shirt for you or something.

[signal osprey]

id gladly accept that t shirt sounds cool man

[wooden haven]

Disagree. Very fruity take

[bitter citrus]

idk I like the start on crypts idea. blue portals take you to ruins, red to inferno. 3 levels is too much for the amount of inventory space they give you

[warped raft]

good thing we have all this content that we cant enjoy cause there are still DCs, ending abnormally and fire LODs cutting your fps in half so you stutter through the rest of the map, by all means though lets add some more buggy and laggy crap to the game

[spring prairie]

Goblin Caves are still laggy as hell

[silk mango]

yeah i bet you would, sounds about right for you.

[wooden haven]

They need to introduce backpacks. Anyway starting on Crypts is dumb. It feels much more of a campaign-like adventure and it's really fun to start from the top and work your way down the ladder risking it all. The fix to the loot issue could also be much less loot at higher rarities combined with the backpack thing. People who wanna PVP can go backpackles and people who wanna scavenge can take backpacks at a move speed cost like Tarkov with the ability to drop them pre combat

[signal osprey]

if you want i can sign your t-shirt make you feel a little better

[bitter citrus]

a backpack would work or maybe stash drops on the map where you can drop loot. would be a good pvp hot spot. people would prob camp them though. maybe make them 1 time use like healing shrines.

[wooden haven]

I really don't know why backpacks aren't a bigger topic of discussion. They would be an insane game changer. Loot stashes could also be a banger idea, one time use, whoever gets them first

[spring prairie]

Or something like portals. Just a few appear through the dungeons

[brisk lava]

FIX THE LAG FIX THE LAG FIX THE LAG FIX THE LAG FIX THE LAG FIX THE LAG FIX THE LAG FIX THE LAG

[bitter citrus]

yea i just feel like im either full up before i finish ruins or I'm farting around near the down portals waiting to go lower.

[wooden haven]

Backpacks that don't get picked up could be auctioned blindly like one of those storage shed shows lol

[patent cedar]

MIONKS SHOULD DEFINITELY BE A THING

[spring prairie]

lol That would be hilarious

[dim ether]

Anyone's antivirus getting this https://burket-dnd-glory-live-1317768029.cos.ap-seoul.myqcloud.com/
Accessed by: debrisworker.exe

[spring prairie]

UNLIMITED POWAH

[patent cedar]

me and my friend just went double monk and when i died i got revived but with no weapons or anything but i still had smite and he was using divine strike and bless, i was doing 37 weapon damage a hit

allow me to correct myself: i was doing 25 weapon damage and 12 magic damage a hit, so 37 total on the training dummies not weapon damage

[zenith fiber]

whats the point of blue stairs near the edge of the map.. way out of zone before they open

[empty sigil]

Why force us to play ruins, that map is very unfun for lots of classes

[wooden haven]

The upside is that they will be forced to listen to feedback

[brisk lava]

REDUCE SKELETON DENSITY ON RUINS AND FIX LAG REDUCE SKELETON DENSITY ON RUINS AND FIX LAG REDUCE SKELETON DENSITY ON RUINS AND FIX LAG REDUCE SKELETON DENSITY ON RUINS AND FIX LAG

[green frost]

hate to come in here for my first ever comment but god ranger needs a nerf

[empty sigil]

I dunno, I am at a loss. Barb gets buffed, most popular map forces you to fight on a map made for the classes that suck all the fun out of game (ranger and rogue)

[bleak sinew]

I love this game, but man are these 2% drops for quest items getting tiring 😦

[bitter citrus]

for people that play the swarm

[wind palm]

yes it does

[green frost]

I'm loving this game so far but as a fighter I can see two classes I can never fight against. barb and ranger are the most annoying classes to fight because one runs away and fills you with arrows and the other is too strong for you to fight up close but I dunno maybe thats just me

[quick rain]

is anyone else getting a sound bug? the start up where the hot fix page sounds like a helicopter

[dense heron]

Ah yes the good ol rogue 2 shot

[hybrid mist]

What on cyclops was actually changed?

[bitter citrus]

fighter is a penduluum. if you are full metal armor you are good against rangers/barbs. if you are slayer you are good against magic users. kind of a pick your poison situation. you want a crossbow or bow as a fighter though.

[green frost]

nah this the problem tho I am full plate and rangers still beat my ass how the hell I even supposed to catch them on a map like ruins which is where I just lost my latest run

[bitter citrus]

crossbow or bow. you can out-dps them with your armor. don't chase them let them come to you.

[worldly briar]

tbh, they do love hiding and spamming me around corners

[quick fern]

fighter ranger self healing bow meta

[hard thicket]

wtf is this no crypts? Going ruins to crypts leaves you in an empty crypts with no pvp, thats so gheyyyy

[bitter citrus]

just have to shoot back and play their game against them. shoot em up, fall back, heal, rinse and repeat. you have better sustain and they have traps. that's what will prob decide the fight

[worldly briar]

yeah i dont like it either

[misty axle]

What is the price for troll blood now?

[worthy abyss]

hows wolf pelts going

[glad storm]

@dusky trout When are they going to remove the rogue from the game, is there already a patch? From the looks of it, it's a useless class that they only nerf, so I think it would be more prudent to remove it...

[limber badge]

Rogue works on my machine

[latent epoch]

Buy a rapier and space your opponent

[glad storm]

whats u rank?

[dim ether]

Hydra has a new bug now that is does 20x the damge

[glad storm]

for the archer/mage/warlock/longbow fighter to have more of an advantage and give two hits and kill?

[limber badge]

Neophyte 3

[acoustic moat]

i just fought a warlock with plate armor, dont know if thats new or is a new cheat

[limber badge]

New perk for warlock

[glad storm]

It's explained LOL. I'm Exemplar 3 and from this rank onwards rogue is useless as it doesn't harm any class, and the use of a hand crossbow with magical damage only works in YouTube videos in the lobby with weak equipment

[acoustic moat]

alright, thx

[misty axle]

Anyone know how much a troll blood worth atm

[limber badge]

Rogue is useless in the upper echelons of the playerbase, therefore the class is bad. Please tell me more.

[solar sentinel]

playing rogue and 3 tapping juced pdr fighters, i'm only using blues and greens, barbs dying in 2, i don't know what ironmace did but they done goof

[limber badge]

The duality of man

[zenith fiber]

so many skeletons

[solar sentinel]

don't play rogue like its a frontline brawler and you'll have more success with it, rogues are assassins, that used to only pull this shit on classes other than fighters and barbs, but now everyone is free game

[limber badge]

I think rogue is great, I was being sarcastic lol. He's saying rogue is bad because it's hard in exemplar, a rank like maybe 3% of the playerbase has.

[glad storm]

Unfortunately, I'm persisting because I've already done all the quests and all that's left is to kill the ghost king. but I'm going to abandon this class because it's useless, I'm tired of losing sets after this update even though I have 145 hp and 38% physical damage bonus and die to all classes with two or three attacks, honestly the only class that can rogue killing is barbaric with felling axe, that is if he doesn't throw you a franciscas ax and kill you. In the past rogue was used a lot for farming and even that today is not very good, it would be better to use bard which has many more advantages... repoze itself is already abandoning the class. Usually those who say that rogue is balanced is because they don't play with the class or they have a low rank.

[solar sentinel]

My man, you kill all classes in two or three hits, and you're complaining that they do the same to you.

The fact that rogues can have 35%+ pdb while sitll having 120hp+ and 20%+ pdr is already insane

[sick depot]

Simply play smarter

[limber badge]

Repoze has "abandoned" rogue like 15 times
Dude whines even when he's winning

[solar sentinel]

You're the ambush class that kills even pdr fighters with 3 hits to the head, that literally goes invisible and can climb above almost every door in crypts, and a dozen in caves, you literally complaining that your enemies that hit slower than you can kill you in the same ammount of hits that takes you to kill them, but you hit much faster.

[solar sentinel]

Tbh, that might be his gimmick for streaming, the whole "1v3 and complains about it" doesn't need to be his actual personality

[midnight parrot]

Give us old goblin caves back.
If you still care about your solo players give us the old goblin caves and let the duos and trios have the new gobo map.

[tawny grail]

Nerf the bard into the ground no reason someone should have 13 buffs in a solo

[misty axle]

Solo player are awful, always pretend like center of the world

[midnight parrot]

Yes let's make a team central game when the avg. HP pool is 100 and the TTK is 1-2 seconds make sense.

[tawny grail]

What else you supposed to do when no one else is on? Sounds like someone should get off the game😳 but it is what it is for now

[patent cedar]

bro we did another test, warlock, cleric and barbarian all need to be using things to compliment the barbs strength and health to make the perfect monk-like character. its pretty broken especially with a vigor stat build from equipment on said barb. go fists and you get fast movespeed and the attack speed isnt bad either, it will be able to do a max of like 47 physical damage and its absolutely beautiful

you have to have the warlock and cleric buffing barb before encounters, and cleric healing the barb consistently lol, me and my friend went and killed 2 teams with it

[glad storm]

Read it again... I believe you're new to the game but that's not exactly how it works... As I said, the only people who complain about the class are those who don't play with it or die from hesitating and dying to rogue. rogue is a stealth class that takes advantage of opportunities but currently it cannot be used at high levels, "ah but you are invisible" this is a good advantage but as all high level pt's have warlock or mage you are easily scorched in invisible. The effort to play a rogue in the current patch requires more skills than ever... I say this because I don't want it to be super buffed, I just want it to be balanced because I believe that in this game each doll has its role and that each class is a counter to another, but currently at least in the ranks of specimens with end game equipment it is useless... the fact that killing with 3 hits is insane only works in solo mode or against players with little equipment or already with low health

[midnight parrot]

hard to feel bad for rogues not gonna lie to you m8

[signal osprey]

i have 3 traded in but i havent been farming them im kinda dreading that

[patent cedar]

anyone wanna run with a barb and a cleric to make a perfect monk build?

[glad storm]

I like balance, I basically play with 3 main classes currently, which are Archer, Mage and Rogue (Exemplary Rogue 3, Archer and Mage are Voyager Rank) and I can say that Rogue is very unbalanced... I've lost count of how many times I've already I died to rogue as a mage and it makes me very angry but I always died when I played wrong and now when I play as an archer or mage I laugh when I see a rogue because I know I'm going to kill them easily,

[fervent pelican]

anyone else getting major freezing and preformance issues after the patch or am i just having pc issues?

[signal osprey]

plate pdr warlock is really fun until a regular warlock comes up and almost one taps you with blow of corruption LOL.

[patent cedar]

we need a warlock or cleric for monk build with barb

[winter estuary]

longbow fighers are BS

[warped raft]

its like this game has done a complete 360 and is right back to seal clubbing, starting to feel like they really dont care about the population anymore because its one decision after another making people leave

[restive breach]

Game is not updating? any solution ?

[warped raft]

uninstall, play something else, save your sanity

[solar sentinel]

I'm very much not new, but i'm definitivelly not high level, since the new system came i'm pathfinder 1 but thats it, didn't go any higher and i don't have access to rogue uniques, but if the wiki formulas are to be trusted then on max rolls 3 hits of a castillon on a dagger build you'd still hit a 75% pdr from 400AR+enchantments for some 180~ of damage over those 3 hits on 2.71s.

All the golden gear i've gotten until now to go and die as a longsword fighter was from looting fighters with my rogue btw. But i'm very sure the entire point of wizard its to counter invisibility, and you got cutthroat if you want to build to silence wizards instead.

[restive breach]

I have already done that but i keep coming back for some reason

[amber valley]

Whats a troll pelt sell for these days?

[cunning summit]

how much do centaur horn's generally go for?

[warped raft]

glutton for punishment, game is right back to no skill and only gear and the amount of time you can put into the game matters, so if you are not a streamer are a basement dweller HR is pretty much full of W key gear mongers, normals is still on a more level playing field where you can out play someone and they cannot one smack cause they have 4 tiers higher gear

[glad storm]

I've already used this build but it only works well in Party if you can distract the wizard so I can get close. Playing solo, the rogue is certainly much better, my statistics solo goblin caves is 189 games played with total extractions 142 but in a trio it's another story... rogue becomes a difficult class to fit into the PT... I just want finish the ghost quest to stop playing and focus 100% on the archer and mage

[sick depot]

Sounds like ya need to play normals until you get enough gold for good gear for HR

[broken wolf]

Just play naked HRs on ruins Extract with all blue, purple gear and sell it to merchant. The more slots an item takes the more it pays

[warped raft]

i have lots of gold, thats not the problem, im not gonna go sit in the trading post for 2 hours converting said gold into ingots and keys cause thats all anyone wants for anything good then spend another few hours trying to snipe what i want to buy while the trading list is skitzing out, all the while playing inventory tetris simulator to hold gold bags

[solar sentinel]

I like that you can't both build to counter casters and fighters at once as a rogue, so you're always somewhat open to one of your counters, but hiting wizards with cutthroat and rushing in during the gap on 3v3s is being decently fun on my rank, but i don't even know if there is an actual rank based matchmaking rn.

[winged apex]

These the facts

[zealous linden]

is anyone else crashing alot after this patch?

[warped raft]

lol

[solar sentinel]

Do you have no gold bags yet? only gold purses? i'd tell you to farm for a couple of hours until you get one or two of those

[sour basalt]

Did Longsword Parry get fixed with the hotfix? Or is it still borked?

[warped raft]

i have 8 big bags but you still have to buy 200 little bags when you want to buy something and redo your inventory just to fit all that etc etc, horrible system to say the least anyhoo, regardless that is not the problem now, the problems was making all the gear uber stats again allowing for yet another huge imbalance on top of an already decent size imbalance, i mean why didnt they just add the +3 all to everything again and just push the seals right into extinction

[dense matrix]

Anyone willing to hop in a game with me real quick to test something? Just need starter gear, I want to see if Ranger's Penetrating Shot works on melee weapons

[undone belfry]

this balance is so ducking stupid. you perfectly block an attack and your reward is that the attacker can swing faster than you can after the block.

[sick depot]

bro it takes at most 15 minutes to get a set you can compete with in HR.

[solar sentinel]

You do know that shift+right click automoves stuff, right? when doing quick gold trades you can do that to quickly move bags rather than going tetris, after you're done trading you should be rid of all the small bags you bought for trading.

[solar sentinel]

What shield are you using? If you're being staggered it means you got hit by a heavy weapon. Bucklers will stagger everything except crush barbs, rounds will get staggered by heavy weapons and falchions, heaters will only be staggered by heavy weapons.

The skill perfect block for fighters also means any shield staggers any weapon and is never staggered itself.

[paper dawn]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ChillyCaringSpiderNotLikeThis-Qd1WxmJBLy1B_wcI SOLO RUNS IS IMPOSSIBLE! do they deserve a ban?

[distant lodge]

DOES ANYONE KNOW THE MYSTICAL GEM SPOT IN THE NEW GOBLIN CAVES MAP?

[wet crystal]

so is cleanse broken? or working as intended? Works on next to nothing now. Pointless for GK and Lich?

[dim ether]

There is no way the devs think this map rotation system is good We should all be able to play any map at anytime isntead of being on a dumb timer I hate that the little time i have to play I have to wait to play maps and now we are stuck on ruins which takes an hour just to go inferno to do quests and boss. Anyone agrees?

[cunning summit]

how many cookies is a key worth now?

[undone belfry]

round but i was also teamed against after just full gearing, bc 2 guys saw me in pre lobby and decided to team against me bc i had good gear... so yeah... play the game to get gear, but then get screwed bc you have good gear. But TBH if you block with any shield it should reward you with a quicker attack than the meat head that swung at you @solar sentinel

[dense stag]

This game has xbox controller support

[fair shadow]

Worst change they have made to the game. Doubling the most broken map. Rogue double jump absolutely breaks ruins being able to be on top of walls out of reach from everyone and ranger has several places to be up out of reach or can infinitely kite with big rooms. Part of the appeal of the game, for me, is the quick matches that you play through. Going through one floor and then going through inferno takes the perfect amount of time 25 minutes, adding another floor unnecessarily slows down the game by giving you more loot that you most likely don't need as you filled up on the previous floor so really you're just trying to stay alive until you can go to inferno or can blue portal. Considering how difficult the monsters are in inferno it should be easier to have access to it so more players can have a chance to be successful there. I would much prefer if they added inferno as a place you could go on every map and didnt stack floors making the game last longer. I really enjoy the risk vs reward gameplay of whether to go down to inferno or just escape with what I have and think it should be introduced to goblin caves as well. Just my two cents. 🙂

[solar sentinel]

No, all shields should not block all weapons equally, shitty take and skill issue.

[undone belfry]

ok... but it doesnt matter what shield you use, the skill it takes to block doesnt match the time advantage you gain to attack next. thats logic. grow a brain

[fair shadow]

Heavily agree with you

[tacit iris]

Wait. With magical interaction speed now scaling with will, does that mean knowledge is now entirely useless for non casters???

[brisk mason]

I love dying since they removed being able to go behind the lionshead chest under batroom, so I just got trapped in a corner and died.

and they please mention when they remove cheese and where. the amount of times I have died to this bull shit if something randomly getting patched, especially one as small as this

[dim ether]

Devs say they get feedback but they just do what they want and make the dumbest decisions

[earnest ginkgo]

do you have your build setup for that because that is an option, you can indeed swing faster then the person that attacked you if you put on the perks (unless its a felling axe then tough luck)

[solar sentinel]

Plate locks can't heal from pots this is so funny

[solar sentinel]

No, it very much does, if you block with a heavier shield you stagger your enemy, and it takes fucking AGES to recover from a stagger, with a arming sword you can get 3 hits in before a barb recovers from a stagger to any weapons, or 1/2 hits with a falchion depending on which weapon you staggered, most classes weapons only stagger for enough time for a single hit tho.

Shield mastery is busted, and high skill buckler fighting is even more.

[sour basalt]

It is indeed a skill issue not understanding how good shields actually are in warfare. Given, the shields we have in Dark and Darker are absolute garbage and they clearly show that whoever added them into the game has never actually seen, or used, a shield in training.

[cinder whale]

are all static exits guaranteed to eventually open?

[earnest ginkgo]

yes
static exits open eventually after 1 player passes they are closed
static down portals keep staying open tho

[merry wharf]

anyone know why it boots me out of the game every 5 minutes? been a problem for the last six months and its kept me from playing the game

[plain marsh]

plate warlock is extremely terrible. i am an absolute dogwater wizard. it is my worst class. im in the lower echelon of timmies as a wiz. the only players i were able to kill in solos were platelocks. and im killing fully decked platelocks in base kit wizard as a garbage wizard

[distant lodge]

=DOES ANYONE KNOW THE MYSTICAL GEM SPOT IN THE NEW GOBLIN CAVES MAP?

[safe juniper]

really man...
ranger is hard countered by fighter so much so that shooting 14 arrows into a fighters knee leaves them unscathed

[near jackal]

tf is wrong with the maps rn

[solar sentinel]

Shields in this game are not garbage, you're just bad at them.

[safe juniper]

ok now heres the cool part
i can play fighter and select the weapon perk that lets me do all the ranged stuff a ranger can do minus shooting 3 arrows at a time, and at the cost of 10% of my damage which is miniscule compared to what i get back.
In return i dont have to deal with being weak at melee and i get a sprint, plus can use shields.
Why play ranger if you can be a 10% weaker ranged fighter that comes with melee....
And the triple shot ability doesnt even work 10% of the time it consumes no ammo and i just shoot "ghost arrows, dunno if its server lag or what but it has screwed me over in fights

[solar sentinel]

If you're being outshot by a pdr fighter its a outright skill issue, you'll literally only ever end up in melee if your gameplay sums up to shot arrow and walk backwards while doing so while he closes on you.

[fervent lantern]

would be nice to get the full developer notes for things that are changed when we get patches, instead of just shitty foot notes

[cunning summit]

adds to the adventure

[sour basalt]

On a side tangent: Holy fudge are Leather Caps rare. Like ... stupid rare. I have found 1 leather cap in the last 5 or so dungeon runs

[safe juniper]

first part: the fighter has the same crossbow as me how is it a skill issue, he 3 taps me and my arrows do nothing because he is in plate armor + projectile reduction, even if i hit more i do less
second part: fair enough but this isnt what I do

[subtle heart]

I hate gcaves so much. When I'm with friends or alone I have to hop off because it just sucks. Ruins with reds is so much more fun in every mode.

[desert harness]

They fixed falling through the floors on one spot in the game but there are tons of places where you fall down

[inner birch]

There is 0 way I can do a map alone just for fun?

[solar sentinel]

Xbow mastery alone literally means you fire two shots for eacha fighter does, that plus your equipment will mean you'll get nearly double, when not more, xbow reload than a fighter, you're hyper mobile and can chose to engage or desengage at will, pdr fighters aren't, on bow fights its even more to your side. You're just bad at it, i love playing fighter but i'm forced to be ranger and rogues on 3v3s and duos because the classes are simply on a better spot rn.

[solar sentinel]

The spots in hell where you fall down are pittraps, you're menat to die there, so if you mean those it won't get fixed. They fixed the unintentional ones but i didn't see any new ones yet, so i'm now scared of that happening again.

[desert harness]

In gc there are some spota where u fall down

[fiery onyx]

Watch any demigod videos for tips and they all say fighter has an advantage on ranger. You can outplay them with your movement but don't feel bad for losing that one.

Also does anyone how does war cry work on barb when it wears off? If you have 200 health and boost up past that and then go down to 175 when it ends, does it stay at 175 or will it decrease to whatever it would have been before you popped it? Someone told me it will but that seems really goofy to me.

[safe juniper]

imo they should make it work like the gig pot in albion
basically if u have 125/150 health and the effect multiplies max health by 2 it gets scaled to 250/300, and then both divide by 2 once it ends

[subtle cliff]

is crypt back yet or do we still have to suffer in ruins to get there?

[solar sentinel]

Works the same as any gain of HP, your loss is proportional. So if you lost 10% of your hp, 20, while you had 200, you'll be 10% down when you go down to 175, so 17/18 health missing.

[fiery onyx]

Ty

[thorny rune]

just curious anyone know the price of a mystical gem? i dont see any on market and was curious

[shy cairn]

quick question how much are candy canes going for a piece rn?

[subtle cliff]

god I hate the game now, got to find something else to do until we get the freedom to pick the maps we like 😦

[rustic bay]

这次更新太狗屎了吗，就没有人说吗？删除原来地图简直无语

[valid lily]

are potions magical healing ? Are they affected by the new warlock perk ?

[rustic bay]

This update is bullshit. Didn't anyone say anything? Deleting the original map is a no-brainer

[pliant holly]

what are some good duo comps ?

[remote yarrow]

Its still there in Layer 2?

[rustic bay]

@remote yarrowNow it's a ruin with three - and two-tier maps, and the game takes so long it's shit

[valid lily]

Same here. I hate that crypt is removed. That was the only map I enjoyed.

[tribal lantern]

Crypt is top tier game design. Ruins is...not.

[remote yarrow]

Yeah i know. That was Always intended and already tested in pt4 or 5

[thin fulcrum]

I just got back into game after like 2 week break and im playing ruins non stop and something told me i should check the chat here..not enjoying this gameplay.

[tribal lantern]

How quickly do the devs respond to feedback? Seems like the ruin-only sentiment is overwhelmingly negative.

[icy wedge]

I was not expecting this chat to be the calmest of them all, thet are arguing in every other chat lol

[junior parcel]

they need to bring crypts back, we shouldnt have to be forced to play a map we dont want to play just to play crypts. ruins is laggy and has way too many spots for rouge to double jump aswell as rangers are a big problem. theres a lot and regardless of your opinon on the maps, crypts shouldnt be only acsessable through ruins

[tribal lantern]

Agree with you completely

[torpid oxide]

how many ingots can i get for a wolf pelt? some guy offered one and i feel like thats pretty low for a 3% drop chance

[warped raft]

crypts, the true claustrophobic W key fantasy, where nothing can escape their wrath, not even a rogue with double jump, where the hallways stop zweihanders in their tracks

[rapid imp]

why the servers are atm so trashy. Is fun to die to rubber banding at Cave troll with full gear

[blazing meteor]

Does someone of you also got issues updating the client?

[supple vector]

How much is a trolls pelt worth?

[late thunder]

quarter staff rework

[thin fulcrum]

hate goblin caves and ruins and now im forced to play that or not at all?

[ionic trellis]

any1 else getting the server terminated abnormally?

[hard pebble]

is there any fall damage ?

[worn arrow]

No

[subtle cliff]

indeed its painful, im not playing until crypts is back. Hate this north Korea style where we cant play what we want wtf?

[sonic maple]

Why not

[runic escarp]

NOT A FAN OF THE NEW MAP CHANGES, BRING BACK MAP ROTATION.

[hard pebble]

just let the devs cook god damn

[vestal silo]

Knowledge is a 100% dead attribute on any physical class now. Meanwhile fighters have 15 points soaked up.

[steel briar]

Why is goblin cave so damn laggy ruberband is crazy there

[foggy dirge]

i have an idea

[grim vessel]

Outside of quests, wolf pelts aren't horribly useful, they can be used to craft some rather mid equipment or a gold bag...

[torpid oxide]

thought there was a wolf hunter leggings craft ive heard jay say its bis for alot of classes

[grim vessel]

Break more barrels/boxes.
@torpid oxide Wolf hunter leggings give Strength 4 and +6 health and are blue so they roll with 2 extra enchantments. In effect what you have is a purple with 1 less strength than an actual purple, a decent armor to move speed penalty ratio, and 1 enchantment locked into 6 health.

[keen mural]

Ranger is OP. Fact

[subtle cliff]

BRING BACK CRYPTS !!! !!! !!!

[twin kernel]

lizardman or orc for barb?

[torpid oxide]

its a fun map get over it

[subtle cliff]

we should not have to suffer through ruins just to get there 😦

[hallow hinge]

why do rogues have 76 hp.. wtf...

[abstract valve]

What does soul collector work on?

[keen mural]

Fellow Rogue, the dark age is upon us. We may be at a disadvantage, but fear not; We shall ultimately prevail through our cunning and unmatched skill that people of other classes do not possess. I pray for Lightfoot boots your way to guide you through this darkness with haste.
Amen

[subtle cliff]

Yes i hate the new changes - not starting in crypt and all. But i still play and after 20 minutes i get a crossbow bolt to the face from a skeleton. What a waste of time hehe 🙂

And yes as Rogue that did kill me

[hallow hinge]

I almost got 1 shotted by a bola thrower goblin XD
thank you for your kind words though, we will prevail!!!

[keen mural]

Those guys fuck

[pliant lion]

They should change the demon armour perk for warlock to have it reduce your magical healing by a percentage for each piece of plate you have equipped, rather than the 75% it instantly gives, that way warlocks dont need to wear full plate and become super slow to justify running the perk

[subtle cliff]

i tried using a healing shrine hehe didnt do much :/

[prime sky]

guys io have problem with the gaame ll the time says fail conect to server

[frosty heron]

why is the game getting stuck on 0% fix ur game dumb devas

[prime sky]

i try everything but nothing

[keen mural]

I just had to wait a little bit and then it moved

[subtle cliff]

my game works perfect but who cares when I cant play crypts, game is so lame now I cant believe they did this

[frosty heron]

i waited 20 mins awnt me to wait an hour?

[jolly bobcat]

Bring crypts back! Forcing us to play maps we don’t like!

[thorny mulch]

My tinfoil hat theory on crypts being removed until you go down. Too many bugs that people have not seen yet or trigger so they want the amount of people to be less in general when you get to crypts.

[vivid bay]

Servers fine rn?

[thorny mulch]

Also ruins is a beautiful map.

[pliant lion]

Crypts being locked behind down portals on Ruins has nothing to do with bugs, they have talked about it before that they want to bring back the original 3-part adventure that was planned from the beginning, that being going from Ruins down to Crypts and then Inferno, this is just them experimenting with that idea

[subtle cliff]

im just sitting there on ruins near a red stair and it ends up way out in the storm everytime, so boring to play atm

[fervent hearth]

what about red portals?

[vapid arch]

knowledge was dead on phys classes anyway, i've never seen a fighter or barbarian build knowledge

[subtle cliff]

BRING BACK CRYPTS stop destroying your own game sheeesh

[deft lintel]

My suggestion to a possible solution to this problem is:

• When you enter a red portal or a down exit the game starts immediately (no waiting for other players)
• the dark zone is removed or starts way later once the previous lobby ends (ruins, crypts)
• There is always a open red down exit at the start of the match (maybe in the middle of the map or set place)

Thoughts?

[timid eagle]

They need to scrap that idea because it sucks. Just give us back crypts or build a new and better starting map than ruins. The only reason i ever played that trash map was to kill mobs for quests. Ruins is hot garbage. Either have the gates permanently open or do what most devs don’t do, admit their idea is bad and move on.

[pliant lion]

the game is in early access, the purpose is literally to experiment to see what works and peoples reactions to it, right now they are experimenting with the original 3-part adventure. They are not destroying their game by figuring out what works and what doesnt, if you dont like it you can stop playing until they eventually add crypts back to the map pool or you can try to learn ruins to more reliably get into crypts

@timid eagle I understand that, i find Ruins to be a boring map and a rogue cesspool, but them trying this out hopefully gives them a better idea of how to tackle the maps going forward

[subtle cliff]

Its a disaster im trying all kinds of things to try and have fun like this, but i give up. Its not worth playing in this state. People have always been able to go down twice in one game? only thing changed is we cant play crypts like we always have

[weak yoke]

The static exits should allow at least 2 people to enter and giving a 5 seconds grace period from when the first person who enteres for the 2nd person to enter before finally collapsing

Kinda hate how only one person can enter and portals are no where to be found.

[timid eagle]

All it does if give me two options, wait an hour to play goblin caves again or not play at all. To lock their best map behind their worst map is fucking dumb. They should give us back crypts and focus on their rubber banding issue, it is more pressing and ruining the game. Removing my ability to play crypts as I please and forcing me to play ruins in the games current state with constant lag and rubber banding isn’t worth it.

[deft lintel]

That’s a separate problem, not related to what I’m saying. But sure.

[subtle cliff]

They even did this before in one of the playtest and people got so mad they quickly switched it back, we need to make them do that again

[weak yoke]

I'm adding extra stuff to it lol

[vocal jackal]

any1 know what the 100% to 70% means for the weapons on the new hot fix?

[pliant lion]

im sure they will revert it in the next hotfix seeing the responses, seeing as people can only play ruins now hopefully people will voice their opinions on how to make the map better

[fervent hearth]

I like ruins well I like all maps

[high grail]

can we nerf warlocks curse of pain already damn that ability is dumb

[subtle cliff]

dont say that

[timid eagle]

Ruins can’t be fixed. Throw it in the trash were it belongs and try again.

[vocal jackal]

ur trippin dawg ruins is a good ass map. lots of loot, pvp, and relatively easy mobs

[pliant lion]

reducing foliage, adding invis walls to stop rogues from camping high spots, increasing visibilty from moonlight and adding more light sources would make the map significantly better

[visual burrow]

Does anyone know how to access the Golden chests in hell? There’s two in a room and ones on a pedestal and ones an unjumpable gap..

[weak yoke]

Long term it's not a bad idea. The only reason why it's not a great idea rn is because there aren't many options for us to pick from, that is the only reason why it's currently not such a great idea. because we're now forced to play on a map we don't like, and there's no other map to fall on for that. But given at least 1-2 other 2-3 layered maps then it wouldn't be a bad idea tbh. It could just be seen as a map of endurance or something of that nature.

[rancid minnow]

hi had anyone had a issue with logging in to the launcher every time i try it says server error try again i have been waiting 6 hours to log in

[deft lintel]

Added this suggestion to their website: https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/521374/possible-solution-to-3-tier-maps-waiting-between-tiers-and-people-only-wanting-t

But I feel like that place has been abandoned since nothing gets deleted.

[rocky holly]

If your talking about room with centaur and wraith then there is a lever on the bridge by the gap and you can jump onto the wall next to pedestal and barely reach it

[steady forum]

did they for sure fix the static goblin exits ? i had 2 games where i waited until last circle and it never opened

[jolly bobcat]

Crypts has always been my favorite map. Hiding it behind less desirable maps is a bummer. Ruins is deff a rogue hot spot. Maybe add another map for there 3 level idea and put crypt back on top.

[visual burrow]

Centaur, and demon beserker and a few hell hounds. No wraith

[rocky holly]

The wraith shows up when u pull lever on bridge

[visual burrow]

It’s one room over from the skeleton warlord./boss spawn. Ahhh word thanks. That sucks. Hell is fucking brutal without cheesing.

[broken wolf]

Yoy probably mean skeleton key room no? Might be wrong, i don't go hell much If it's a door with a big skull on it it needs a key to open

[visual burrow]

Shit it might be. Im not too familiar either. I’ll take a look later today when I go again. Trying to “master” hell. Or rather get the hang of..

[broken wolf]

Skull key sorry*** Either way the room is across a big gap, you can open the bridge by pulling a lever and there's a skull on the door

[visual burrow]

Ok that’s definitely not it. I’ve never even seen that module before!

[rocky holly]

I was pissed when they added the wheelchair ramps out of the lava for the mobs so you count cheese as hard

[broken wolf]

I mean just git gud and learn to dodge. Everything but the berserker is laughably easy to dodge. Just need to learn the pattern

[visual burrow]

Straight up. I go in as fighter with a ranger buddy so we can cheese from heights to an extent and I can tank the hits needed, but even so, learning the movesets is difficult with it taking a half hour each attempt now lol

[broken wolf]

Demon dogs you just side strafe sround them, demon bats the exact same, centaur is similar to wraith in dodge pattern. Berserker is the hard one, cuz you need to react with your dodges based on which side he starts thr combo on

Skeleton axemen are disgusting when nightmare thanks to the 2 tap combo. Skeletons with longswords have one bonus attack st the end of the double swipe you need to jump over it. Pikemen follow the stab with the sideswipe so strafe left/right and then duck looking down

[visual burrow]

Sweet I appreciate the insight. Will give it a go later on!

[broken wolf]

It kind of annoys me how many people refuse to learn how to dodge and try to cheese everything, and then they go to hell and die to the first axe/pikeman nightmare they meet

[rancid minnow]

dose anyone else have this issue

[cunning summit]

why is a NORMAL zombie doing over 80 dmg to my shoelace

[stoic meteor]

Anybody got a way to get blacksmith working reliably?

[deft lintel]

They need a way for you to skip straight to crypts, either the old way of just queuing directly, or new way better way of just being able to go down immediately from ruins without needing to wait

[subtle cliff]

Crypts is everyone favorite map we need it back !!! !!! !!!

[empty sigil]

Are we trying to create a game that allows you to get spawn rushed by country ESP cheaters as fast as possible.... ruins is the worse - why would you force your worst map onto the community

[limpid stream]

I need Crypts

[deep birch]

I also need Crypts

[pure valve]

ruins is fucking terrible. just camping statics

[compact hill]

howthehell do you play this game i die 2sec in every time no rolling?

[deep birch]

I was coming back to the game all excited to run Crypts solo lol. Also, press B to stay alive @compact hill 🙂

[compact hill]

b does nothing for me

[subtle cliff]

well make sure you let them know, so we can get crypts back

[cunning summit]

Losing crypts is aids, having to plsy for 45 minut3s just to get to hell and do a quest with a sht spawn is uninstall material

[dim lance]

Im stuck in duo mode, as a solo - what the fuck can i do. restarting, changing class etc. im still stuck in DUO LOBBIES AS A SOLO

[bleak mural]

on the map select screen, the solos/duos/trios option is listed above the map selection. Hope this helps

[subtle cliff]

❤️

[fervent hearth]

then do that

[waxen parcel]

Anyone know how season rewards will work? Do I get a coinbag for each que rank? What about each character? Will we get the coinbag for next season?

[dim lance]

❤️

[compact hill]

not even 2 seconds of gametime a match wtf

[midnight parrot]

How's one supposed to stream this game with map rotation? If you don't want to play a certain map you are effectively wasting time.

[candid kite]

What drops moldy bread? Just skellies? I hate this quest

[waxen parcel]

Yes, any skeleton

[bleak mural]

Took me a while to find it too 😂 dont feel bad

[bitter citrus]

yea but how many traps can you put down as a fighter. is your base ms at cap or is it like 85%. you only lose 4 weapon damage with weapon mastery, ranger gets an additional 4 with spears and ranged weapons. you're comparing ranger to it's direct counter and assuming the ranger will be playing like a fighter. traps are guaranteed kills if you are there. what's the fighter's guaranteed kill? doesn't have one. if you're a fighter, what are you gonna do when a high ms wizard rolls up on you? pretty much just die. ranger owns that fight ez. it's rock paper scissors man

[quartz jackal]

What's the mdr cap?

[steady forum]

they really need to either space people out more or reduce the number of people per map

[waxen parcel]

Anyone know how season rewards will work? Do I get a coinbag for each que rank? What about each character? It says rewards will be given at the end of the season. Does this mean we will get the coinbag after wipe?

[dry wasp]

Welp hydra still fucking sucks, i think its ai is even worse than when they "fixed" it. Was initiating a teamfight, teammate hydras a barb on a ledge. The hydra then decided to, instead of targeting the barb, spin around and target either myself or the ai i was running from(that was nowhere near the fight) and obliterated half my hp before i realized it.

[pure valve]

ruins is fucking terrible

PVE map

[wild jay]

Please rework ruins

[smoky meadow]

How so?

[pure valve]

1 in 10 chance to get to crypts

[smoky meadow]

I appreciate the reply, but how is it a 1 in 10 chance? Im just not understanding sry.
I played last night and had 9 red portals (3mans) between 2 rooms and a red staircase to guarantee the crypts.

[pure valve]

try solos

[outer scaffold]

I run ruins solo all the time (high roller) and it's pretty easy to get to howling crypts. I almost always just take the stairs

[smoky meadow]

This was on duos and solos (I main solo), when I said (3mans) I meant it spawned the 3 man portals.
I just wanted to understand wherethe 1 in 10 chance came from.

[plucky creek]

Warlock taking shrine while having plate set perk is buggy it gives alot less hp

[deep mica]

i love still seeing fighters complain when they have every tool in their kit

[pure valve]

stairs just get camped, servers are so laggy.

[frozen needle]

anyone come across this "new" instance of Ruins? I am yet to have found it in many many raids

[lapis storm]

CRYPTS back in map rotation plz. Two maps are two little to have on rotation . Sometimes cause of time in the dungeon you just end up playing one map over and over again with two maps in the rotation

[vestal silo]

yes, but fighters still has 15 knowldege base on the class. Everytime i point it out, people try to argue that its so useful to open portals. But at least now its 100% dead. Literally does nothing for the class. Still 15 points allocated in it, that could be distributed on useful stats. Really annoying to me. Clerics has 5 less hp than fighters, but tehn barbs have 30 more hp than fighters. Fighters should have way more hp than they do in default kit.

[vapid arch]

every class could reallocate their stats to be more useful, but you can't because that would be dumb
there's a reason they took away strength from rogue and put it in resource

[vestal silo]

disagree. If the numbers become to high, then simply lower the total amount of attribute points on each base class. Resourcefulness is not even a needed attribute. The effects should be added to combat related attributes instead. My suggestion would be to make dex and knowledge have the effects that resourcefulness used to. The points should be distributed into the other attributes according to class.

Barb has 3 less dex and 2 less agi than fighter, but 10 more str and 10 more vigor. Thats like two epic items worth of stats.

[knotty igloo]

Literally just grab some vigor and sit near a gate lmao

[broken wolf]

You misunderstood. It's just ruins run twice in the rotation. There's no new map so far

[shadow widget]

Yeah reason being impressive amounts of сrack consumed

[vapid arch]

given the current state of pvp if every class had perfect stats then every class would be busted, and not in a way that balances each other out
if wizards could dump everything into knowledge and have 10 spells then they could dump every other modifier on their gear into damage and vigor
dead stats aren't fun but they have a place, especially considering ttk is too low rn

[frozen needle]

oh, i see

[vestal silo]

Its not about dumping everything to a single stat. Its about not having stats that are near dead. Str is not dead on wizard. Its used for clearing pve. 15 knowledge on a fighter had one use it was to open portals. Now its no use. Also as I said, if the numbers become to high when the points are distributed perfectly, then just lower all the points evenly. Just to be clear im not suggesting that we let the players individually distributed points as desired. I still want fixed attributes. But i would love them to distributed in a more fair way.

[vapid arch]

str is dead on wizard because they have crystal sword and magic damage
and like i said, giving fighter 15 all as a base in every stat is a design choice for it being the "basic" class as its suppose to be a jack of all trades class (even though it isn't)

[vestal silo]

Crystal sword is 50% phuysical dmg. I am aware of the idea behind 15 in everything to make him the ultimate jack of all trades. The problem is that some of those stats dont actually do anything. So he isnt really a jack in some of those trades. He is just a wannabe spellcaster.

[vapid arch]

why would a wizard put mods or stats into strength or physical damage when they can put it into will or magic damage, achieve the exact same result and have more damage on spells
splitting strength and agility with vigor and dex was the only real thing they needed to do with stats, they need to expand on class diversity with more perks and abilities and releasing the skill tree
fixing a few dead stats doesn't really accomplish anything

[vestal silo]

Fighters have 114% more knowldge than wizards have str. Str actuallu does something. Knowledge does literally nothing. 8 attribute points is a huge difference.

[smoky meadow]

Its the only ruins you can sign up for.

[subtle heart]

Barbarian needs to be adjusted slightly, in trios he's fine but in solos he just outruns and deletes anything in two hits that isnt a PDR fighter

[vestal silo]

either give him some dead stats or make everyone else have not dead stats i guess

[undone belfry]

you shouldnt lose points in HR it's damn near impossible to reach the last 3 ranks

[vestal silo]

i agree with this. Exctracting should nullify any fee. This way you can exctract witha good kit. YOu just dont gain anything.

[coarse badge]

Is loot buffed as you go higher on the leaderboards? How do you climb when the entrance fee gets into the several hundreds while most of the loot is greens/blues?

[paper whale]

IM needs to reverse the gear stat changes or adjust high stats to have a much greater fall off than they currently do. It made a class like bard less cumbersome to play and easier to build a 10 song kit, but he's still bad because he needs more stats than classes like wiz, barbarian, and fighter who can build one stat with cheap purples and be more effective than a bard with a BIS kit

[empty sigil]

Yeah best way to earn gold is to spend minimal on high impact blues, usually only need boots-weap-gloves. Pick one of the classes that work with no gear ranger/barb and just rush spawns in ruins.

[robust anchor]

You would need to do bosses and high tier chests to get the most out of it. Very good items still do drop from even barrels its just more nerfed atm.

[dim lance]

has ironmace said if theyre going to FIX THE FUCKING SERVERS, in goblin caves everyone randomly freezes and i get hit by 3 fucking goblin arrows to the face while being unable to move 🙂 great game

[formal moon]

Probably not, just gonna try to get back on steam

[paper whale]

This is the worst balance has been in a while, the current stat splits benefit classes that have one or two stats to build. Barbarian can just dump everything thing into vigor and run people down with 200+ hp. Wizard can do the same with knowledge gear and rely on magic power/damage rolls and be at max cast speed with absurd DPS

[native hare]

Did they remove solos?

[tribal pilot]

best begginer class all around use?

[pure valve]

cheating is outta control in the game for sure

[tribal pilot]

really?

[astral saffron]

trio gobby caves still really popping i see. glad they removed crypts

[paper whale]

Maybe I'm lucky to not have run into cheaters, but MMR makes HR trios mad cringe, I just get geared diffed by gold teams because I didn't get my boss kills done before map rotation

[silk mango]

Ive ran goblin caves for the past 3 days, and have calculated the amount of times you get new GC vs old GC. Over 50 runs, across solos, duos, and trios (thanks to IM, seeing as how they have Ruins back to back for two solo rotations). I got the old GC map 3 times, and the new 47. IM, your new map isn't THAT good. Nobody likes it. Go back to the old GC for solos. Save the bigger map with two bosses for trios only. Thank you.

[tribal pilot]

can you refund the game?

[fervent hearth]

havent encountered a single cheater yet but okay

[astral saffron]

all money in, no money out

[tribal pilot]

have you played a good amount of time?

[raw heath]

bruh i was just in hr and my game just closed ubruptly and every time i load back in it says the same thing

[gilded prairie]

I've been around since first playtest and cheating has never been a huge issue for me.

Thinks servers are struggling right now though

[silk mango]

I ran into a single person that was cheating by looting through doors, and that was it. I've had this game since playtest 1. Idk what all these people are on about with the cheating... That one time was on Brazil as well.

[fervent hearth]

nah just like 50 hrs masybe

[cold path]

Hey guys quick question, does slayer work with hand-crossbow in second hand?

[pure valve]

I have a banlist everyday

[paper whale]

Honestly even for trios the new GC is shit it's difficult to get portals, it takes forever to get through the map. Give me old GC back, we just ran cleric with res ez clap. IM has been releasing L patch after L patch as of late

[empty sigil]

Lot more people use ESP then you realize

[bright wharf]

What % of players in dungeon would you estimate

[tribal pilot]

esp is most likely an issue in this game just like all the other shooter looters

[empty sigil]

Depends on time of day and rank. In voyager+ solos its 1-2 people will be blatant about in almost every lobby (crouch back at you thru the wall). Probably at least equal amount that try to hide it.

[tribal pilot]

so your walling? they are crouching back at you .... ?

[subtle heart]

Fishing

[deft rampart]

Agreed but every game makes their new maps played more

[empty sigil]

Tarkov has similar issues, I think the style of game encourages it

[astral saffron]

i fucvks with it. especially when the trio lobby looks like this:

[silk mango]

Yeah, I understand that. But GC is almost impossible to get to if you're learning cave troll without having to clear now. You've got to run several modules in every spawn minus two. Hoping no players, easy PvE clear, etc. They have a quest to farm cave troll pelt, but make it the biggest pain in the ass to get to. Maybe if they put cave troll on ruins as well it would balance. But hey, "Look at our super cool and awesome and totally not too big GC map!!! content!!!"

[round radish]

BRING BACK OLD GLOBLIN GLAVES

[deft rampart]

Yep. In hindsight i wish i hard hard grinded quests on my main char in the first week

[calm torrent]

no they were bad as hell

[silk mango]

Guranteed you haven't played enough GC to say that.

[onyx echo]

remove map rotation honestly

[calm torrent]

i played A LOT of gc ;D and i much prefer the spacious new one ;D you sound like a boomer coping that their fav band disbanded @onyx echo but this yeah rotation is kinda doodoo

[weak sorrel]

Just Bring Back Crypts no1 wants to have to go thru Ruins To go there Not a single person

[onyx echo]

not even that i dont mind it its just ruins isnt designed for 3v3 it was for 2v2

[silk mango]

You've been in the discord a month. No you havent.

[calm torrent]

bruh its because i was banned and appealed im heere since ea started ;D

[weak sorrel]

I do agree to that as well but there is also a lot of Fps Problems That Ruins has Multiple streamers and Members of the community have brought it up that sometimes that map is unplayable for some . until they fix that The only playable for for some is goblin caves which is still not very team Designed.

[silk mango]

DM me your GC cave stats and ill believe you

[gritty breach]

pics or it didn't happen.

[calm torrent]

isnt it changed to soloduotrio now?

[raw heath]

anyone else's game just keep crashing?

[silk mango]

the ignorance of this comment shows me you havent played enough

[calm torrent]

Hah you r funny as hell brother. All in all im playing since ea started basically and i have an opinion that old gc was doodoo for me but if you liked it so much then hope a lot other ppl did too so the bring it back D;

[paper whale]

The new GC is the exact same outside of a few new modules, except you have even more rooms to clear now. IM are pros at making bone head moves at this point. They don't take 2 seconds to think anything through, the amount of obvious oversights they've made since EA launch is slowly killing the game

[subtle heart]

Fishing

[inner olive]

dont filter out craft versions of weapons from trade, unless specified. IE: show sterling axe under searches for double axes

[open badge]

Wow it hasnt even been that long but damn do I miss being able to just go to the crypts without having to go through ruins, like dont get me wrong, I enjoy ruins as a standalone 3 tier map

[onyx echo]

true man

[sullen vector]

anyone else having serious performance issues in the new goblin caves?

[open badge]

Did they change GC too ?

[pliant lion]

we NEED a claymore that you hold over your shoulder in dark and darker

[slim echo]

idk if this is the right place for it, and I know a lot of people complained about the mob density in Gob caves, but I feel the mob nerfs were a little too agressive, personally.

[proper hollow]

i feel the same way

[potent pollen]

I don't think crypts becoming a part of ruins was a bad call, but i think they should have waited until they could release a new map as well

[slim echo]

I personally didn't think it needed much of a nerf at all, maybe the new center area needed a slight dial back but even that wasn't really that bad. A lot of rooms that used to be a dangerous proposition to tackle are now trivial. I get that it's a bigger map, but I liked that Gob cave mobs were tough.

[sour badger]

agreed

[oak blaze]

Is anyone else getting the server error?

[amber ridge]

ugh I dont like the new 3 tier system, crypts was the best map and now its hard to play it with how much pvp happens in ruins. Also crypts is now basically a pve zone. lame.

[limpid stream]

game optimization very bad

[pliant lion]

once they add the feature that allows down portals from ruins to matchmake with other players and have a full crypt match, then i think it will be great

[slim echo]

crypts is an absolute war zone now

[timid juniper]

barbarian misses all 3 swings while I'm hitting him with 30dmg rapier 5 times, but it's alright cause he can just swing again and kill me with 1 swing ! GOOD GAME ILL NOT BE DELETING.

[potent pollen]

like, im loving the new ruins feel with the tiers, and the rotations, goblin caves feels like a decent map now, but the game feels so much smaller now without another map in the rotation

[wanton otter]

Can't wait for icemap

[deft lintel]

Yep, can't get back in

[amber ridge]

how so? its less players on average every game. id say maybe 50% of the players go to crypts if that

[dusk willow]

anyone else experiencing extra bad rubber banding? since the patch yesterday, i cant seem to get through a single match without glitching back into mobs

[slim echo]

I'm sorry I meant ruins*

[amber ridge]

exactly, map needs to be much bigger or less players. if you dont have bis gear your in for a bad time with how many people you will run into

[subtle cliff]

bring back crypts !!! !!! !!!

[oak blaze]

working now, dunno what happened. Got booted from my game, tried rebooting only to get the same error message. Fixed itself after a few minutes

[vernal imp]

What's the trick to the Cyclops rock fall?

[pliant lion]

dodge

[spring prairie]

Jump after he hits the floor with his club

[vernal imp]

Feels like its RNG and I still get hit. But yeah I guess you take a bit less damage with the jump

[deft lintel]

Same

[safe juniper]

fighter gets access to some of the most magic resistant gear in the game
ive disarmed other ranger traps many times and have only died to them once.
No, im assuming the fighter can play like a ranger because they can literally use bows as well with a 15% damage penalty

[timid eagle]

i think it was a bad call. Crypts should stay a starting map. With a new middle map that leads to hell. Kind of like Diablo 1 , start in the cathedral, go to the catacombs, then the caves and finally into hell. Ruins is a trash map that should get deleted.

[inner birch]

We should do some vote on having a solo, enemies only map rotation, it's tyring to fight ppl all the time

[spring prairie]

I would say its more desync RNG than game RNG

[glacial kindle]

can we get to select what audio output VOIP goes to? it would be a really nice QOL for creators.

[heady oyster]

There's a warlock with plate armor (fighterbarbcleric) who has the same gear all week I think he never dies. He's a gold caped menace.

[inner birch]

All that has to be done is tweak the loot and buffs so that runs with no online ppl have less worth

But not too much to not stop anyone from playing either they want online PVP or not

[potent pollen]

sounds like this hate is coming from somehwere else...did a rogue tickle you wrong?

[subtle cliff]

I just cant believe how bad the game is now, cant believe they did this. Crypt need to come back like right now

[timid eagle]

no the map just blows. Dark and Darker shouldn't have outdoor maps.

[calm torrent]

please nerf the freaking warlock its impossible to play against them now.... they have both oneshot ability as well as a fucking escape... whyy

[vapid arch]

what's the difference between if it were outdoors and had walls and a roof around the outside of the map

[pliant lion]

they will probably revert the change in an upcoming patch, just learn ruins in the mean time, you've been talking about this all day

[fading root]

Ruins is pretty awful, i can't believe they changed the GC layouts before adding more to that and trying less open grids. its killing my enjoyment of the game since they took crypts

[inner olive]

ruins best map, get rolled 🤷-warlock #MyLifeIsInRuins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48gX0aeQ7uI

[subtle cliff]

I have been saying it all day your right and part of yesterday. It is vital though that they hear all the complains!!

[timid eagle]

okay. you have bad taste. good for you.

[inner olive]

you have bad gamesense and low neural plasticity. #MyLifeIsInRuins #RuinsSkillCheck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLEBywK8qVs

[timid eagle]

if you put a roof on ruins it would still be a bad map. you can't polish a piece of shit and call it gold. shit is shit. ruins is shit.

[inner olive]

If you played ruins as much as you complained about it you'd see it's superior for loot and PVP if you hate it you tend to get spawnchecked by a direwolf like a noob & warlock not broken, 99hp

[calm torrent]

Yeah i hate ruins i cant play it with this ranged meta when i want to play a fighter. its just impossible to not run into some landmine or warlock who abuses this op class @Lotion you think are a man for playing this broken class? whenever i play rogue i take cut and hunt for warlocks for fun and i never spare even the friendliest one

[solemn gazelle]

Hey guys, I have been wondering about something. Please help if you know the answer! If I were to download "Blacksmith" the game launcher the devs made, would I be able to log into my normal account? (I used "Chaf games" client from the start because I was unaware of "Blacksmith". Would I lose everything or be able to pick up from where I am at with my characters and stuff?

[weak rose]

Is regular interaction speed what you want for treasure hoards?

[inner olive]

#MyLifeIsInRuins #RuinsPvP #BuffWarlock

[calm torrent]

bro has no idea xd

[agile plover]

dcing a ton today

[solemn gazelle]

Has anybody here switched from chaf games to blacksmith? I am wondering if it is a waste of time???

[solemn gazelle]

Regular interaction speed helps with looting chests and opening doors, etc. I would bet that it does help with looting treasure hord's because they are not magical and are most likely coded like chests. Don't quote me though.

[dusk willow]

same, and rubber banding like crazy

[wet kiln]

The hell is happening with servers i got just disconnected lost my full golden set !!! @zinc sparrow My teammate also got disconnected

[subtle cliff]

its because they removed crypts server is DCing everyone

[timid eagle]

ive never made a single complaint about warlock or pve wtf are you on about crack head.

[spring imp]

the stuttering is insane plz what is this for the love of god dont say ddos

[mossy bison]

I keep getting kicked mid dungeon, is something going on?

[past python]

I was about to come in here and ask if anyone else was having the same issues

[dusk willow]

ive been trying everything with settings, nothing works. only been bad for me since yesterdays fix

[weak rose]

This game owes me a mystical gem, I just watched a bola go straight through a mummy, my hydra, and headshot me

[compact hill]

this game really has no room for new players i see, just got the game and hour of searching in lfg no one wants to even try a match with me jesus

[dusk willow]

ive had the game less than a week. I love it aside from my current stutter issues

[earnest jungle]

remove goblins from trios -.- are u guys playing your own game?

[weak rose]

I just assume they''re doing ranger shootouts with how often that class gets buffed lol

[north lion]

Is there a map for the new goblin caves?

[fathom eagle]

buff shoes of darkness and frock

[safe juniper]

yeah the damage dropoff reduction resulting in roughly 20% damage loss for rangers + the 5% damage reduction for one of the ranger passives were really overpowered buffs imo

[night yew]

Is there a use for silver ingots yet?

[weak rose]

Sterling weapons and that path

[sonic maple]

Crypt is for casuals XD sip them noob tears! Noobs got used to the easiest map and are mad they can't spam it? No way that couldn't happen! People that are bad at the game don't abuse the exact same easiest mechanic over and over! They're totally willing to learn new things and don't cringe at doing anything the slightest bit different! joy

[viral spear]

are you just pasting this everywhere rofl

[subtle cliff]

just bring back crypts allrdy before 80% of the player base leaves

[spring prairie]

The same could be said about Ruins. Rats like ruins because its dark and they can hide in every hole on the map, wait until you are fighting a mob then attack from behind. Thats not PVP that is just being a rat.

[night yew]

Thank you. Do the sterling weapons have any actual advantages over similarly tiered non-silvered weapons??

[sonic maple]

Yeah ruins is harder pvp than crypts for some reason

[tall girder]

does vamprism make life drain heal for more?

[viral spear]

ive said ruins is the worst map for months lol, even back when i was abusing rogue DJ on ruins i knew it was horrible

[weak rose]

I think most people are using the silver to just upgrade green or blue into the sterling/justice weapons. They're purple grade at least when you get to the end. Decent and does bonus damage to undead.

[safe juniper]

sitting in a corner invis and 3 tapping someone in the head within 5 seconds is pvp what do u mean
i was being sarcastic

[subtle cliff]

This has to stop soon lol, one more goblin map then im out untill crypt is back

[weak rose]

He's out of line, but he's right lol

[spring prairie]

So now imagine that only its not just Rogues but Wizards, Rangers, fighters, melee locks, naked wizards

[deep ginkgo]

You are just mad I’m styling on you 😄

[night yew]

Okay. Thank you for that clarification

[spring prairie]

Rangers are really annoying as they can perch up top and have a clear shot on just about anyone on the map without moving because there is no "fog" for distance.

[wispy crane]

Does anyone know if the blue skeleton reward is just for the character you get it on or all characters

[dry nebula]

all

[wispy crane]

Is demon armor good also? I notice your name lol I was gona try out that style of warlock a little

[cunning rune]

I keep crashing when the merchants dont have anything to sell, is this happening to anyone else?

[dry nebula]

its fun but very bad, no healing from anything thats not bandages or campfires

[ionic wave]

does hitting a player with low PDR using weakpoint give them negative PDR resulting in more damage?
like a rend?

[indigo basin]

the prob with goblins cave is the safe zone I THINK
should increase a few minutes

[normal field]

thank you iron mace for making warlock open portals at 0.000000000001 seconds

[dim lance]

@zinc sparrow revert back to the old playtest before goblin caves the servers are fucked

[covert aspen]

dont @ the devs to freaking cr y, its cringe

[dim lance]

dont reply to me to freaking cry, its cringe

[covert aspen]

baby boi

[wanton otter]

2 handers too slow. .w.

[vast kayak]

why is this game crashing so much after the change to 2 map rotation?

[arctic kraken]

yes

[calm torrent]

omg this game is so funny i just found 3 other friendly players and we go down to do the boss in hell all together ;D

[tired tulip]

I have crashed multiple times and can`t reconnect just losing kits left and right

[bitter brook]

^ got disconnected again from a match, was mid fight and got "connection to server suddenly dc, Restart client." losing kits. can i get a roll back. Come on dude...

[formal gust]

Okay, so I'm not the onlyone having issues getting into the game

[frail ore]

yeah crashing has become significantly more frequent after the patch

[gleaming venture]

What is the recipe for the gold coin bag?

[real maple]

they typically wipe every 2-3 months right?

[subtle cliff]

crypt back yet ?

[rotund pawn]

No it’s 40% of their pdr not minus 40% so if they only had let’s say 20% pdr and you use weak point it only goes down by 8%

[ionic wave]

dang so its really not that good

[native sable]

Servers are rubberbanding right now. Fix plz.

[novel silo]

could we possibly change the Warlock Demon Armor to reduce curse healing and not magical healing, it's complete bullshit that it makes healing potions literally useless, using a pot gives maybe 3 or 4 health instead of 15.

[fleet owl]

what happened to crypts?

[harsh marlin]

i have kill the troll 32 times so far today and not found a pelt. is this bugged? does it exist?

[vapid arch]

2% drop rate

[wanton otter]

its under da ruins

[hollow lark]

some spiders just lifted me up and threw me down the stairs

[wanton otter]

Is it 2% as of the last hotfix? It said it was adjusted but they neglected any hard numbers, as usual.

[vapid arch]

it was 2% before they changed it, dunno what it is now

[empty sigil]

Skill issue.

[inner birch]

Bro it reset and I lost all of my shit

[empty sigil]

I'm sure they will change it, tinkering with numbers and re-using assets is bout all Ironmace knows to do

[last iris]

There is no typical at the moment

[woeful bane]

i lost so many kits yesterday to the gaming crashing and falling through the map and today its still doing it. where is my compensation for all the kits that ive lost over some bullshit

[last iris]

Isn’t barracks the only one you fall through the floor on?

[woeful bane]

i guess im gonna have to play whites until they fix this but thats just not as rewarding or as fun

[sacred turtle]

go cry a damn river pssy boy

[woeful bane]

bruh let me catch u in the dungeon when my games not crashing. ur absolute dog shit along with this game stop tring to act hard with titties bigger then my girlfriends

theres estrogen blockers you can buy so you can lose those man titties

[grand shadow]

anyone else getting random game crashes?

[calm torrent]

orange

[forest reef]

yea this game is run by worms

[strong pulsar]

i agree with this statement

[inner bloom]

how do we fix game crashes

[pulsar fern]

remove the fcking map rotation its stupid

[covert aspen]

learn to play other maps

[calm torrent]

why is warlock so fuckign strong... i lose the will to play this game with such imbalances first barb then rogue then mage then rogue again the warlock YOU CANT BALANCE THIS GAME AT ALL DEVS

[fervent anvil]

you try and make a class based game 100% balanced then

[wanton otter]

no

[calm torrent]

i could easily, just DONT GIVE A CLASS INFINITE HEALING KITING AND ONESHOT ABILITY

[fervent anvil]

ive never had a problem with going against warlocks before. yeah some extremely geared warlocks survive alot but then THEY ARE EXTREMELY GEARED. its almost impossible to have both 1 shot and alot of healing without being over geared so if your constantly dying to warlocks that have gear similar to you i think its just on you

[calm torrent]

you have no idea what you talk about 🙂

[plucky helm]

Anyone have a 10 spell wiz guide newer to the class

[fervent anvil]

i would like to think i know what im talking about as a warlock main

[fervent wigeon]

Does dark reflection still get damage bonuses from soul collector?

[woeful bane]

no the map rotaion is not the issue. this is the best thing that theyve put into the game. they just need to work out the bugs it just sucks that we have to worry every game about timing out

[calm torrent]

which means you try to protect your main from nerfs loser

[restive flame]

How much are mystic gems worth?

[fervent anvil]

oh they can nerf warlock healing all they want im a melee lock anyway

[spring imp]

After like 250ish troll kills ive only seen a single pelt and it was last wipe :/

[harsh marlin]

no clue how many total kills i have but ive seen maybe 3 ever... and ive killed a lot. id actually prefer the quest be to kill the troll 100 times lol.

[vestal silo]

can someone sell me a cheap epic splendid cloak?

[fervent wigeon]

No one knows about dark reflection?

[spring imp]

yea even wolf farming was easy in comparison

[harsh marlin]

idk that took me like 3 days lmfao

[vestal silo]

idk why golden gear still has less base attributes than regular legendaries

[fiery venture]

youtube CNG Blade

[modest chasm]

wait what we got no solos anymore?

[subtle heart]

servers are unplayable rn

[radiant oyster]

guys does any one else stutter or drop frames when looking at certain effects or particles

[harsh marlin]

stutters are like every 30s

[shy narwhal]

Is gold mining worth it? Where are the gold ores at?

[radiant oyster]

nah i mean like this https://youtu.be/kQPVNpMATUQ

[harsh marlin]

oh wtf no

[dusky gyro]

mob aggro is the most fucked part of this game

[subtle heart]

US West is lagging to hell

[fervent wigeon]

Whats going on with servers? Just tried to queue in and stuck in loading

[limpid geyser]

bro just delete ranger

[vestal silo]

do we get one coin bag per character that reaches the right rank?

[fervent wigeon]

Full kit gone, locked in loading screen. Re cliented after 5 minutes of it and nothing. Sick game Ironmace. Do better.

[hollow lark]

rapiers are longer than long swords and have more reach because they are one handed.

[dusky gyro]

any plans on getting playable servers sometime this year?

[formal moon]

Prob not

[brisk lava]

Lolwut

[upper meteor]

all hawe lags?

[hollow lark]

its true

[hexed sundial]

just lost kit during an easy 1 v 1 fight so i feel you

[fervent wigeon]

I've played since first play test and am done until they acknowledge or address people losing shit without even loading in. Ridiculous. Yesterday I lost a kit and all loot after I took a portal out and got 343 AP. In lobby base kit and no loot. Wtf.

@hexed sundial I would take a shitty fight I lose on my own vs losing it all without being able to play

[hexed sundial]

i got disconnected during the fight, my enemy ofc didn't, so i'm salty too, but yeah, hope they fix this servers asap, i'm kind of done too

[formal moon]

Ya connection terminated gets old af when you lose a key set of gear to it for the 10th time

[fervent wigeon]

Love the game, think it's an absolute banger. Can't be asked to invest as much time into as I have just to lose that time invested without even getting to play it out.

[formal moon]

💯👆💯👆💯👆

[calm torrent]

this game would be fun if it wasnt so shit

[frosty heron]

Bruh the game is actual broken they need betterdevs

[manic sluice]

Does the spell "Evil eye" just not work

[noble yew]

GIVE THE FUCKIN CRYPTS BACK

[torn comet]

It’s literally still in the game

[severe root]

Fix cleanse what the hell is the point of it if it doesn’t effect bosses

[noble yew]

IRONMACE DID ONLY ONE THING RIGHT ABOUT THIS FUCKIN GAME AND ITS UNDER THE WORST FUCKIN MAP EVER

[torn comet]

Ruins goated map 🐐

[rapid vapor]

It could use some tweaks

[sullen shard]

any ideas how to fix disconnects ?

[bitter citrus]

I mean I guess you're just the god of war. Capable of crushing any class including your direct counter, no sweat. Should change your name to Ares.

[severe root]

Cleanse was only handy for bossing especially solo but they made it no longer work on the lich curse or gk so what’s the point

[white yoke]

just take a red bro drrrrr

[fervent wigeon]

Stop playing until they do something about it. That's the route I am going as of today

[shy narwhal]

Is mining gold worth it? Where can you find gold ore?

[woeful bane]

yea it is but its risky and you have to be mentally ready to lose it. theres like 3 spots on ruins you'll have to look it up its hard too explain cause i dont actuallly know what every tiles name is

[sick depot]

How do you report someone using offensive language in trade chat? @signal adder

also adding @empty sun and @severe schooner

[severe schooner]

Please DM me and we'll get it sorted

You can always message any Warden and they'll help either redirect you to where you need to go or assist you

[hollow saffron]

Bro what did they do to the Giant Centipide. Its so fucking broken now. (Bugged)

[wild jay]

I hate ruins so much

[graceful storm]

how is it bugged

[warm pecan]

Does someone knows what affect "Physical healing" ? Does melee attack heals?

[wild jay]

Bandages and sitting at fire

[warm pecan]

Oh I see; thank you for the answer. It is not as usefull as Magic Healing for Warlock it seems :b

[subtle heart]

when using Soul Collector, why do I randomly lose all stacks for seemingly no reason? Like I don't even do anything and they just vanish into thin air

[hollow saffron]

It now stacks the poison and when he does the attack you get hit even if you weren't touched

[dry nebula]

wisps probably

[inner bloom]

Hey anyone know why my friend crashes even before the updates

[subtle heart]

wisp cleanse off the stacks?

[dry nebula]

they cleanse buffs

[subtle heart]

kinda annoying how obtuse this game tends to be. Like it explains fuck all on interactions like these. Thanks for the help

[solar sage]

Went against 3 double ranger teams in a lobby,and 2 more double ranger teams the next lobby,3 other in the lobby right after,but don't worry guys!Rangers are balanced!They just got nerfed!They suck now ;)

[queen vortex]

thats alot of double rangers

[wild jay]

Crazy how traps were literally double the current time lol

[solar sage]

Yup,but apparently,ranger is bad now! (said by ranger mains ahahahahah)

[latent dew]

how much are gingerbread worth?

[brisk mason]

Ranger aint good, but triple ranger is aids. Your better off not dealing with them.

The class when you just have one is pretty terrible but when you have multiple rangers combing hit slow and quick shot its ass to fight.

If the class is so broken where is it at high level play?

[solar sage]

Your argument dosent hold up,the game needs to be fun for lower levels and hight levels.Not everything has to be completely based on the top of the top.For exemple,rogue sucks in hight level,yet still plagues the lower levels.You can't base everything off of competitive play.The game has to be fun.Cuz thats what a game is supposed to be

[safe juniper]

u sure they werent fighters with a crossbow?

[brisk mason]

The hell do you mean rogue sucks at high level? Rogue is way way way better at high level.

I am not saying the game is only based off top level but if the class is so broken why isnt it used when people are the best of the best with the meta comps

[solar sage]

Green hoods,longbows,and spectaded em afterwards.They where actual rangers.

[subtle heart]

so how exactly do you use Ray of Darkness effectively? It deals piss all damage and disables me from doing anything else. Literally just using it on a Fighter or Barb they run into me immediately forcing me to cancel it or die. I've never been able to use this spell properly so far

[safe juniper]

facts, all these ranger haters in chat yet few rangers in high level play.
Maybe it isnt as broken as people are making it out to be, since people at the top are likely to play whatever is good.

[queen vortex]

everyone knows that if i die to them they are broken If i win its balanced.

[solar sage]

Its broken at lower levels,cuz everyone that dosent yet have god like shield blocks and instant reaction time just get triple shotted by 2 rangers from across the map and die.
Ranger is frustrating to play against.

[empty sigil]

I would love to watch you play warlock

[calm torrent]

everytime i play it i go mele oneshot and i kill geared peeps ezz

[solar sage]

Nah bro,I have at least some self awareness,I play warlock,and god knows warlock is IMBA,one shotting fully geared barbs with a grey stick shouldnt be possible.And they should nerf the damage scaling on boc.And I dont mind,cuz im not stuck in my own lane trying to outcompete everybody,I just want to play an actual game and not "run from the op class untill patch" simulator.

[subtle heart]

you do indeed strike me as the man they should listen to

[brisk mason]

Except it does no dmg across the map or in general without gear? Frustrating to play against and broken are not the same thing.

Triple fighter with bows and triple ranger are frustrating to play against but not broken

[empty sigil]

Infinite Healing and Kiting and Melee Oneshot build - thats is 2 different builds

[solar sage]

Use soul collector,when you charge up to 6 souls,your beam will do 60% more damage,you run magical power and just melt em

[safe juniper]

i got 3 tapped by rogue from full health

[solar sage]

Well,triple ranged attackers is kinda broken.With the hit slow,no matter your class,you are already 3 quarters hp down by the time you get a single hit in.And since they are fast,they just kite you around,making it literally impossible to do anything,especially if you play a squishier caster class like warlock wizzard,and imo,having a hard counter that you just insta die against isnt a good gameplay idea.Makes it too rock paper scisor,leaving no room for counterplay.

[outer scaffold]

as what class?

[safe juniper]

ranger which probably explains it, it is meant to be somewhat squishy
to what the guy below me said, if triple ranger is so OP how come other comps are used? This sounds like plate fighter PDR mentality

[brisk mason]

Yeah its awful to play against but aint used often for a reason

[solar sage]

Still,if the game has a frustrating strategy,devs should prioritize the majority of player's fun rather than catering to the 2% of pros,rogue landmine was frustrating enought,but ranged damage is actually just boringly sad.They should completely rework ranger,as an old ranger main,the class just isnt fun to play,or to play against.So they're forced to make it strong so people play it,which just isnt the way.

[safe juniper]

youre absolutely right the recent buffs to ranger are way too overpowered
the ~20% damage reduction from shooting accross the room due to projectile damage falloff, along with the 5% damage reduction to one of their passives made them even stronger than they already are

[solar sage]

Exactly as predicted,the ranger main jumping in the convo,without actually reading anything prior,to defend his absolutely horrible class ^^

[wild jay]

Its less fun. Powerful doesnt automatically mean fun. I dont understand why people dont understand this.

[subtle heart]

I still feel like I deal way too little damage to justify staying within this awkward range. I've also quite literally never seen a warlock use it effectively against me either. Like I said what do I do when I hit a Fighter or Barb and they just run at me? Hell even against rangers its dangerous to use becuase they just kill me 10 times faster than my black piss stream kills them

[solar sage]

Its actually pretty good in some situations,if you have a teamate like a barbarian to clear your space,the ennemy can't rush you down,making you able to slowly widdle em down with the damage tics

[subtle heart]

but in what situation is it better than just curse spamming them? Hell even bolt of darkness seems like a better choice to spend the stacks on

[heady current]

why is goblin caves still beyond awful to play?

[queen vortex]

what makes it bad? seems good to me other than packed

[weak star]

i think warlock should just get excess to everything all armor and weapons this aswell as casting should be buffed also BOC should just negate healing all game long and BOC need life steal . and Phantomise needs regen like second wind this class is unplayable otherwise. Hydra needs to be buffed with infinite health so I can succ it off for ages. Also make flame walk the floor is lava alway on and only dmg enemies and Curs of pain needs and I mean NEEDS to deal Real life pain to my enemies they should feel a heart burn or smth idk pls Ironmace fix

also bolt of darkness and ray of darkness should not cost health the wizard can cast without health aswell and a ranger can shoot arrows without loosing healt ?!?!?

[olive lotus]

Nice

[queen vortex]

lol i like those warlock buffs +1

[zealous bay]

do they still use blacksmith as theyre client

[errant cedar]

nah its now on the riot client

[weak star]

Vanguard OP

[rare rapids]

im constantly crashing today any1 else?

[trim solar]

"The connection to the server terminated abnormally. Please restart the client." x5 in a row now. I restarted pc and it didnt fix. happening to anyone else? any fixes?

[torn comet]

Ik this is actually making me so angry

[errant cedar]

deleting the game, going outside and getting a life worked out for me

[trim solar]

then why are you in the games discord server? 🤔

[queen vortex]

lol he obv lying

[scarlet bronze]

were you on crypts when it happened?

[vivid bay]

Awesome goblin mage just shot a machine gun through the ramp and killed me

[errant cedar]

damn he got me - guess it was a dream

[trim solar]

no, happened from the menu. still cant play the damn game. also why is there a 2 min timer lol how tf we supposed to talk to each other

[wild jay]

Yeah the nightmare mage is dangerous

[random ember]

why the fuck "DebrisWorker.exe" keep fucking using all my network bandwidth?

[jaunty topaz]

Mining bitcoins

[willow trench]

is the previous rotation system coming back anytime soon?

[cosmic agate]

Does resourcefulness increase bard song play speed?

[wild jay]

Yes

[main raven]

No? Dex boosts song playing speed

[cosmic agate]

I was told both do, dex more than resource

[wild jay]

Just check the stat window and hover over the stats it should say But i forgot that theres been adjustments with the recent hotfix so im not sure

[spare elbow]

Resourcefulness determines persuasiveness which determines bards buff duration, along with the buff duration multiplier of the receiving player

[cosmic agate]

So buff duration not play speed for resource

[weary fractal]

Does that increase the time on the invisibility song too?

[wild crown]

how much does the old rusty key sell for?

[fast valve]

Me after letting a barb get within 10 feet: 🫃🏻

[indigo basin]

pls balance goblin caves safezone time

[radiant oyster]

they decreased mob density in goblin now its time for ruins to get the same treatment ruins is legitimatly harder than inferno because theirs like 70 enemys in one module

[solar sage]

Here is my opinion of every class in the balance of the game atm (for context:Im a warlock main,but ill try to stay as unbiased as can be)
Fighter:Atm,pretty balanced,don't see any big issues with them,pdr fighter playstyle should get a little boost,and probably make some unusable skill viable to make more variation of the playstyle
Barbarian:Verry good,not op,just,generally good.Might be a little frustrating to play against when they have iron will,and are just a W key class,but you can still outmanoeuver and outplay them,so as long as you're better at the game,you have a winning chance
Rogue:Verry weak,but honestly,its good for the health of the game,as the class is hyper annoying to get one shotted by,and making them really squishy,but really fast was a great move out of the balancing team at ironmace.They should still get a little bit of a health buff imo,as its either one shot or get one shot.
Ranger:Super frustrating to play against,especially now that ruins is 2/3 maps,for the squishier classes,or classes that struggle with range (Ex:Warlock,barb,cleric) get cross mapped,and slowly kitted to death.Which isnt a pleasurable experience,and as an ex ranger main,the class is just sincerely boring to play as and to play against,they need a total rework.
Wizard:Pretty ok at the moment,verry strong,but requires a lot of skill,and has many ways of counterplay,as in bating spells,having an iron will barb,or just any kind of ranged attacker.
Its perfect in the current balance imo.
Cleric:As always,ABSOLUTELY NECESSARRY for good team comps,they should get some nerfs,or the other support class (exe:buff warlock,bard) need to be lifted up in their healing or buffing to compete with him.
Bard:Even with the recent buffs,bard isnt the allmighty magic caster he is supposed to be.He still needs some tweaking.
Warlock:Absolutely broken,at low levels and hight end lobbys,warlock is way too strong and frustrating,as you can pretty much one shot anything with a boc grey weapon.

[tulip swift]

Ranged meta didn’t go away every person does nothing but kite and throw/shoot/cast until they win.

[solar sage]

(I know,but if I say it like that the ranger mafia is gonna take my house)

[tulip swift]

The Ranger mafia can eat dirt they’re the only ones that should have range but they should also be the squishiest because playing against kiting and traps is so unbearable that at least it can be stopped.

[solar sage]

By that,I mean that its like the rogue incident,more than 50% of the player base is ranger now,if I say anything too direct,you can bet ill have 7 people insulting me within minutes.

[quick fern]

fighter ranger bow self healing meta

[tulip swift]

That’s totally fair but at least how I see it insults from people playing a crutch class that takes advantage of the meta doesn’t feel nearly as impactful

[solar sage]

Yup,I main warlock,and its disgustingly op,like melee one shot lock is sooo frustrating

[tulip swift]

I can’t even consistently afford the gear to make the warlock heals usable because every time I go into a game I get kited to death

[dry nebula]

That’s because people are bozos and W key a telegraphed attacked

[quick fern]

is this teams cuz fighter is insanely broken and needs many nerfs

[gritty breach]

life steal would be sick

[solar sage]

I mainly play duos

[final goblet]

any1 have an issue where u cant update the game? my friends had it for days and vpn doesnt work

[glad sinew]

as a warlock main i mostly agree with this, except I would elevate barbs to difficult - iron will makes curses/boc do v little damage. to me rangers are easier than barbs
~ mostly solos for me tho, bout 1/2 HR, pathfinder before the last patch wiped/changed to map-agnostic, team-qty-based ranks

[subtle heart]

one thing I continue to despise about this game is how MISERABLY it makes itself to be learned outside just playing forever. Why can't I just learn the mechanics and interactions from a manual? Why can't I practice parrying in an offline room? Why can't I practice any of the projectile weapons in an offline room? You have to throw copious amounts of time at the game to even learn the most basic shit

[pure valve]

what with getting out of a dungeon and going minus... wtf

[wild jay]

Thats what normals are for

[ebon pilot]

even normals are a bit hard for newbies just trying to learn the game.

[subtle heart]

I am playing normals as is. But trying to parry a skeleton just to get stabbed in the back by some rogue is just...why? Why can't I just practice offline? Almost every competitive game has an offline mode to practice except this one.

[wild jay]

Normals used to have zero gear cap lmao, i literally was the guy who pushed hard af to create the current version of normals. I dont think you understand that an offline practice room would create a whole class of people legitimately searching for exploits as fast as humanly possible in combat mechanics. You dont even lose anything in norms...you cant bring it. Youre complaining about rogue invis.....youre complaining about some one off situation when you could be in game practicing your parry right now

[subtle heart]

I like how you just defend it whilst ENTIRELY ignoring my point.

Also "search for exploits"... really? By your own logic you could "Search for exploits" in normals too, as you consider them near identically friendly towards practicing....

[wild jay]

Yeah but that takes a lot more time. And besides, its better to have an in game training situation anyways, its more realistic. You need to learn to listen and watch your back anyways. Just go in game and keep practicing.

[last iris]

I think a practice room would make the game too easy tbh

[subtle heart]

..........so does practicing then right einstein......?

[spice notch]

is anyone else crashing a bunch

[wild jay]

Look youre struggling in norms, relax on the criticisms here. If you had any idea how hard the game was before you wouldnt be saying what youre saying now. They literally slowed pve down and added gear cap. If youre fighter trying to practice longsword, just buy some regular armor so youre not as squishy.

[last iris]

Like if I could just spawn and drill nightmare Beserkers for a day without risk they’d stop being threatening at all

[subtle heart]

1. don't react to argument 2) try to add insult while repeating argument 3) forego argument entirely and just straight up insult. Good man. Blocked.

[wild jay]

Alright ignore the one person who actually gave you advice 👍

[delicate knoll]

need to make mobs attack other players when they can't reach another

[limber badge]

You should check out oggieson on YouTube, he's an extremely good longsword user and often has tips. Just watching his videos is valuable.

[subtle heart]

thanks, I'll do that. Still; I think it's pretty ridiculous I can't just practice it offline, especially considering how quirky parrying is in this game

[wild jay]

I mean your wasting your time arguing in a discord when you could be practicing it, use your time more wisely, go attack someone in the pregame lobby

[last iris]

The game is unforgiving by design

[ebon pilot]

any tips on what to do when your stuck fighting a mob and a player joins in attacking you? Like whats the best way to avoid getting hit from both sides at that point?

[fickle orchid]

Why are bards so strong in normals? base stats or buffs? Hitting waaaay harder than I've expected lately

[fiery socket]

whats the best duo comp

[last iris]

I’d also recommend bringing a team mate into games without gear to practicing parrying from them

[waxen moon]

when is the next wipe?

[solar sage]

You just kite the mob to make it hit in the void so you have a few seconds to engage the player.

[warm kraken]

• i literally was the guy who pushed hard af to create the current version of normals* 😂 ok pal

[wild jay]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/491199/starter-gear-only-lobbies and then go to announcements and search for starter gear

[pure valve]

make a pve map

[magic spruce]

Please fix rubber banding game is unplayable and devs haven't acknowledged how bad rubber banding is again

[wild jay]

I think a pve raid dungeon on saturdays would go hard

[tame ridge]

does physical power affect ranged damage with bows?

[broken tundra]

as a ranger what are the primary attributes to look for and what are your secondary ones. what is minumum move speed a ranger should have and minimum stength/dex

[inner junco]

i dont have any exact numbers for you, but the rangers that kill me tend to take off all their armor before the fight.

[wild jay]

Yeah, it really sucks that crypts is locked behind ruins. I get that its there vision, but i think ruins is in desperate need of a rework. Its far to open and gives way too much advantage to specific classes. Crypts is literally the best map, its like a maze, very unpredictable, dense, and creates amazing pvp experiences, there are areas that are seemingly designed for every class on crypts. I just think ruins needs a rework tbh. Ruins is way too transparent. If i see them go through one door its easy to just take 3 other nearby doors to instantly flank them

[obsidian stag]

is it easier to get troll pelt in normals or HR ?

[wintry sun]

Proposed Mechanics for Arena in DaD:

• Utilize found items in the arena.
• Avoid total loss upon death, maybe use Yugioh's system, where you might lose just one item chosen by the opponent.
• Victors earn the privilege to trade with an exclusive goblin merchant, using tokens obtained from victories. — Must bring and risk losing the tokens to use them.
• Implement a system to select and exclude certain arena maps.
• Prohibit the use of identical classes in the same match.

Gradually finding better pieces for your PvP set would add another fun element and progress to the game.

Any opinions on these ideas?

[pearl urchin]

~~hay having an issue with a flashing mouse cursor in game anyone know why? i have to click something and tab out for it to register ~~ figured it out. it seemed like all other apps were closed but an instance of another game was open in the background. needded to use task manager to close it

[jade stream]

what is DebrisWorker.exe, I have it too my antivirus blocked it

[ionic saffron]

anyone else stuck at zero forever on updates?

[muted blade]

@ionic saffron i am

[ionic saffron]

Mine just finished at zero the whole time. apparently its updating its just a visual glitch

[muted blade]

well ill let it sit then haha

[sudden plinth]

price check on golden key?

[loud cosmos]

This game crashes at least once an hour

[brisk lava]

how many kits am i gonna lose to rubberbanding i lost count

[muted blade]

@ionic saffron how long did you sit and download?

[ionic saffron]

less than 30min prolly @muted blade

[muted blade]

i have decent download so i was curious i can download 60gb games in like 10 mins but this nope

[last spoke]

anyone else think the new gob cave map is trash? and that the 3 layer map is dumb.... empty lobbies most of the time once hit crypts

[brisk lava]

i like gc map it was aids until they changed mob density so its pretty decent now imo

[restive parrot]

it seems that mage light does nothing against people that use invis pot

[limber badge]

3 layer is awesome to me

[last spoke]

you like playing one full match then the next two being dead most of the time? they tried this before and removed it idk why they brought it back

[brisk lava]

nope

[wild jay]

I like new GC. I think theres a bit too much open space, i kinda like the whole idea of it being smaller, twisting caves that weave through, but overall i think its an improvement. The open areas suck

[magic spruce]

Anyone have a fix for the rubber banding?

[restive parrot]

warlocks magic heals can easily become disproportionately OP with mid gear and its the worst

[dense gust]

Ruins is my fav map on anythjng but my barb tbh

[kindred mantle]

how do I find someone I just killed? I just killed a wizard who was hella geared and I feel bad and I wanna give him his gear back but I can only search the players by USername not character name

[willow quest]

what's everyone's views on the new map changes for ruins and howling crypts? Personally, I am not a fan... I feel like Ruins should have the 3 tiered map, but the crypts should be able to have their own playlist again... It sucks to have to get deeper to get to my favourite map

[merry wharf]

just gonna come in here hourly to say the disconnect from server midgame every game has killed this game for me

[rotund pawn]

I think it’s great imo it’s been their original intent for a while glad they are moving forward with it I understand your dislike for it though I get it but hopefully you’ll find joy in ruins and the new map coming out soon

[west cove]

is it just me or does a 350 hp barb buff ball sounds like a fun experiance

[willow quest]

I feel like ruins is too difficult

I think the option to skip it should be kept but the three tier should be kept too

[weary fractal]

Maybe they plan to eventually let people pay an Ante fee to start at a lower layer dungeon

[rotund pawn]

I can see that it feels like it has a different play style to crypts I like crypts more but also am kind of indifferent to runs so I’m ok with it

[empty sigil]

My thoughts on solo play: New GC caves cause lots of stutter for me, increased player count seems to encourage more teaming. Lose to end swarm more than I ever did with old rotation. I no longer bring gear to GC

Forced into 3 layer makes playtime a little to long for me without sufficient reward. Makes questing harder. Ruins is not enjoyable with some classes, spawns are rushed often - more trains of mobs. Rewards style of play I do not enjoy (range,invis,landmines). I do not take good gear to ruins.

[rotund pawn]

Agreed I lag so much in new GC and the play time is so long I get a full stash by like mid crypts and have to play another like 20 mins lol but the ap rewards go crazy in the 3 layer if you play it right

[empty sigil]

Questing wasn't tuned well (zero effort). Doesn't encourage using multiple characters - makes it frustrating when main counters become over player and overpowered.

[dense gust]

Omg it's do frustrating I am the kind of person who plays all classes... And I just can't quest. It's so dumb that it's per character.

[jaunty grail]

Ill say this fuck the boss quest its always warlord its not worth it anymore idk what these devs are thinking but these quest are not fun at all

[flat sleet]

is there a reason i cant stop lagging since hotfix with a perfectly fine connection???

[willow quest]

I find ruins is too PVP heavy as someone who generally avoids pvp scenarios

That and the monsters are rediculous to deal with in solo, let alone with players able to see you around every corner

[austere geyser]

the amount of people in gc is too much. lowered mob density but i spawn in between 3 people

[flat sleet]

literally cant even play lag is so bad since hotfix and my ping is fine lmao dog shit game is getting uninstalled till they fix it

[willow quest]

howling crypts is the perfect balance of map design imo, not too cramped but not too open either. It allows enough places to hide without being forced to fight players with full gear when I am running in with supplied gear

Goblin caves poision is infuriating and I hate the giant spiders due to arachnophobia

Ruins is the prettiest map and aestetically my fave but layout my least favourite

Howling crypts is my favourite and as a solo cleric often it's easy to deal with but the others are just unfun in my experience

[tawny grail]

Fix the shitty blocking if I’m looking up to block a jumping stab then why am I getting stabbed if I block a slash by looking in the direction it still damages me like I didn’t even attempt to block it🤦🏼‍♂️

[lament basin]

they should fix how using things in pre-game CARRIES OVER TO THE ACTUAL GAME (yknow before you're in the dungeon n' shit)

[charred harbor]

How much are troll pelts worth? I'm new and don't wanna get scammed.Please and thank you in advance

[digital root]

What is Rusty key for????

[willow quest]

I agree with the thing about the ruins. It makes things take wayyyy too long, and Ruins is easily rushable

[digital root]

What do i use Rusty key for??

[hardy hare]

Anyone know what volcanic ash is used for

[charred harbor]

Anybody?

[weary fractal]

I can't tell you how many times I've burned second wind in the pre game lol

[lament basin]

SAME

[ocean furnace]

idk why my boice aint working in game

[brisk lava]

FIX THE LAG FIX THE LAG FIX THE LAG

[summer sparrow]

Been a rouge for like 3-4months this makes it almost unplayable from the nerfs besides being a looter/rat boy, chase shouldn’t see foot prints, on stealth perk!!!! Thoughts?

[wild jay]

I do like the color palette in ruins, but yes the layout needs more work. If it had more stairs, twists and turns, make it like an actual castle instead of just a few walls with no ceiling, ruins would go fucking hard and crypts would make a lot more sense

[wild jay]

It takes some time to see them, its not instant

[summer sparrow]

Watched my friend on screen share murder a rouge with stealth on… not very stealthy

[fiery onyx]

Does the +2 weapon damage on rogue crossbows apply to whatever dagger or sword you hold with it too?

[gleaming edge]

anyone else getting the error for restarting the client rn

[hushed pumice]

do i need to maintain pathfinder rank to keep the skeleton skin, or can i go lower now that i got it once?

[opal venture]

Please delete rangers, thanks

[plain marsh]

new c haracter time xD

[zealous linden]

im getting it all the time, game is unplayable

[gleaming edge]

yeah just had two games ina row where my duo got the error and died and then i got it mid fight

[zealous linden]

ill try some alleged fix and think im fien for like 7 minutes then it crashes on me, idk if they will really ever care enough to fix the servers. im kind of thinking no they already have our money

[lofty shadow]

this game has gotten depressingly out of shape, its no longer fun to play

[gritty dew]

bro i got dcd with a 5k outfit

[lunar carbon]

did they make it so you cant cleanse lich curse? (the blue and purple curses)

[brisk mason]

why is my woodsman not selling torches

[rapid vapor]

i've been told cleanse doesn't work on lich or gk anymore

[bright ridge]

Gotta say, 'Community' wise, this game has gone down hill. LOTS of people are faking being cool/

[mighty meteor]

why do the quest have to be such a grind? its what eventually made me leave escape from tarkov. kill 15 Lichs? did you consider how much time this takes? first you have to go to Ruins, then take a portal to Crypts and THEN to Inferno. 15 times at least to finish the quest. The amount of time this takes even if you get it done in 15 straight runs is insane we talking a good 15h hours and that does not include loading times, preparing stash and character and the inevitable failure of some runs. Its just too much, I hope this changes once the game is more polished. Just make MORE quests that are less of a grind instead of few very hard ones. You will loose many players over this once people get frustrated.

[subtle heart]

do you keep whats in your stash after wipe?

[mighty meteor]

no

personally I hate wipes but I understand why they do it. however games that wipe tend to frustrate me because it feels like all the hard work was for nothing. sure I had fun playing but I want more. Thats one reason why I dropped EFT. Games that wipe need to figure out some sort of compensation for people who played a lot and therefore deserve a reward. I imagine something like a season pass that grants you some additional stuff in the next season.

[crimson tundra]

is 17 ing too much for gold coin bag

[mighty meteor]

thats about 5,1k why do you need the bag? ran out of stash space? for the 5,1k you could buy the extra stash if you don't already. keep in mind the bag only holds 1k also the chests are WHEN they are sold around 6k so I'd say 17 ing is too much

[fiery onyx]

Does smite apply to holy strike? It just says damage not weapon damage.

[restive parrot]

no. it is only added to physical smacks

[last light]

Does wizard suck now?

[buoyant flint]

you're just bad lol

[last light]

☹️

[dark void]

anyone know wats the demon blood thingy epic worth? and wahts it for

[brisk mason]

Wizard is very good. Even more so now with the stat changes, lets you get much more vigor will and ms

[carmine vigil]

Lol where are you seeing chests go for 6k gold? Can you get me one next time you see it at that price, I'll give you 1k on top

[brisk mason]

bags go for around a key which is 17 ing, why idk. and chests go for like 9 keys which is 40k+ gold

[mighty meteor]

almost never but one guy offered it to me but I did not have that much coin then

[carmine vigil]

So that probably isn't the price they go for then, right?

[mighty meteor]

Idk it was the first time I heard about chest prices since then I haven't seen one in trades when I as looking

[brisk mason]

game has gone to shit. have prolly 1000 hours but can't be bothered to play anymore. ruins is insanely bad, solos is unplayable with teaming and the meta. Rogue is just as annoying as always and you can't fight anymore. The only way to consistently survive is to play extremely defensive and safe. And there is also horrid lag making the game feel awful to play

[wooden arrow]

dont we think 75%is a litte to much? pots are lowkey so butt i think the curse heals and and potion/shrine heal should be separate

[plucky helm]

why are the normal litch kills not counting in norms

[rapid vapor]

Do you guys think they'll ever add alternative rogue play styles or will it always just be some form of invis ambush? Also, wow is low to no gear rogue in an awful state

[formal gust]

anyone lagging super hard when looting or in some multi target combat ?

[potent vault]

whats troll pelt price rn

[pallid grove]

Imagine if you could craft/modify weapon like in Mount and blade 2 or Tarkov with different type of blades, grips,etc

[brisk lava]

can we make traps not an instakill for 0 skill plz ty

[silent elk]

this update is boof

[subtle heart]

what are gingerbread cookies for?

[rapid vapor]

gambling with the goblin merchant, but some people sell them

[subtle heart]

ahhhh okay thanks

[zinc gulch]

Unironically just look down

[brisk lava]

unironically let me look down 24/7 in ruins good point

[zinc gulch]

I used to complain about traps all the time but they are fairly easy to spot if it's dark just look down

[vestal silo]

why are cookies dropping so dramatically?

[wet turtle]

Best class rn?

[marble sage]

Imo warlock

[rotund reef]

barbarian is also extremely strong

[brave vigil]

Fighter

[drifting hinge]

Is there an updatet Goblin cave map somewhere?

[uneven nebula]

YO is anyone getting this infinite queue bug?? What the hell is going on? lol

there's a queue bug right now. my friend and i just queue'd duos and it gave us both an error trying to reconnect "yes or no" screen over and over and over. Kept repeating.

[vestal silo]

do you get a coin bag for every character that is wanderer? Thats alot coin bags 🙂

[serene wren]

Im trying to find a way to post an image so I can ask a question, What is the blocked off small corner in ruins for? theres no way out of it unless you are rogue. I believe if you jump in theres a good chance the kits gone.

[formal gust]

can't send images in this chat, as for the corner I got no idea never even thought of it

[uneven nebula]

How can I post a bug? There's a queue bug right now. My friend and I both queued into a game in huge kits and got infinitely "reconnecting" screens when pressing yes and the game ate all of our gear randomly lol.

[chrome basalt]

does anyone else get ghost block with longsword they had fixed it now its fucked again

[serene wren]

Yeah its in ruins, It is the room that is to the left of the graveyard in the top right typically. There is a small corner you can jump into off the pots (rouge can just double) and its a small walled area with a chest that is blocked off

[uneven nebula]

Nah this is actually the worst game. Friend and I both just lost full juiced kits to queueing HR duo's and the game ate it and randomly DC'd us and wouldn't let us reconnect under any circumstance. This game is actually the worst lmfao.

[eager igloo]

The game is crashing randomly after the latest patch. Whats going on?

[sour basalt]

Man, I really enjoy how I have to press a skill FIVE FUCKING TIMES before it actually activates ... | Use items, draw weapon, wait five seconds until any of my skills actually are ready to be activated, that'S really baaaaad. Goblin caves has such bad performance on so many levels

[sour basalt]

On a sidenote: Anyone else still having bugs with quests? Currently my woodsman does not accept Campfires of any quality level for his quest.

[uneven nebula]

Sill kind of interested to hear back from anyone regarding the bug that occurs when queueing into a game that your game just constantly asks you to reconnect until it eventually fizzles and all of your gear is gone without even playing the game lol

[restive parrot]

if you play barb youre a fat loser

[marble sage]

Barb sorta underpowered tbh, too slow, fighter can even go in and out of him slow fat hits

[bright badge]

why do people team on solo normals. are u that bad?

[unkempt bane]

narrator voice indeed they were that bad

[gilded prairie]

Crashing is getting pretty bad lately

[bright badge]

i mean i'm bad myself, i have only 20h in the game but...that's just nasty. maybe im salty idk

[quasi oar]

THREE GROUPS OF TWO IN A SOLO LOBBY I UNINSTALLED

[fervent lantern]

skeleton vocal sounds should be removed all together, skeletons have no vocal chords or air flow to create said noises

[rigid hill]

Can any piece of gear have any stat/enchantment or is it sort of preset?

[quasi oar]

THREE GROUPS OF TWO IN A SOLO LOBBY I UNINSTALLED

[fresh bay]

Jumping should disable your ability to attack.

[cunning summit]

why do i get "abnormal error" randomly and just kicks me out and ruins my game

[subtle heart]

I been getting that too. Maybe people reporting me for hacking lol I'm too good now xD

[marble sage]

Tbh its a dungeon, its instinctual to look for a teammate to better your ods at winning, plus killing someone who is in a clear disadvantage gives me satisfaction lmao

[subtle heart]

We team because you people kill players who just want to finish their quests lol the quests are stupid long and hard. Mine ores for like like 5 minutes just to be killed each time is not fun

[marble sage]

Just team up with someone yourself, problem solved
Or better yet betray them, god i love playing rogue

Hey has anyone been banned for nicknames btw ? Some ppl have crazy names, funny though

[simple helm]

When game will bring back to Steam?

[worn arrow]

Yeah you can get banned for a funny name

[marble sage]

Lel alright, hella ppl running around with crazy names, started to think mods dont moderate it

[quasi oar]

YO GUYS UPDATE I WAS QUEUED IN DUOS NEVERMIND THE UNINSTALLING THING

[wheat osprey]

perks for warlock BoC/phantomize build?

[inland grail]

falling through the ground and game crashing, lovely update 🙂

[vestal silo]

rubberbanding is horrible today

[eternal pawn]

"today"

[subtle cliff]

uselees fucking ruins bring back crypts ffs

[vocal bramble]

just survive and go into 2nd layer dog

[subtle cliff]

Feels like i spawn right next to other players everytime

[vestal silo]

do you get a coin bag for every character with wanderer rank?

[vocal bramble]

your not wrong, depending on your class you only want to go certain routes for safety in the beginning

[subtle cliff]

Granted there is some skill issue there, cause I rarely win those encounters, but its just a horrid and unbalanced map

[bitter citrus]

There's several quests where you have to kill players. So you are teaming up to kill people who just want to finish their quests. Then complaining about solos trying to kill you in solo lobbies while you do your quests.

[vocal bramble]

as a rogue main I have to play the outskirts of the map in the beginning until reds spawn as rogue is underwelming in pvp until you have purple gear. I usually do solos into a duo or trio que to farm, as the groups tend to wander together leaving large chunks of the map for me to loot and they spawn clumped together rather than dispersed as in solos. Ill take the gear I get from duo and trios que and take that into solos to go after my higher rank.

[vestal silo]

Im looking at barb right now with 3 blue pieces and 1 green with 172 hp and 30% mr. 25 str base 🙂. 20 pdr with only one grey piece of plate.

[vocal bramble]

cries in rogue* 😭

[subtle cliff]

bring back crypts alrdy