game-discussion

[trim kestrel]

how do you get the candycorn?

[vestal vault]

how much is candy corn worth

[vivid pendant]

if they can prove it, pre teaming in GC is bannable, so report who you suspect in spectator mode is all

[subtle heart]

Teaming is allowed, pre-teaming isn't. If you can prove they deliberately queued into same lobby press r while spectating

[subtle chasm]

did they fix the shitty servers?

[subtle heart]

I got it from the goblin cave, at the table near shaman that was next to the bat room.

[gaunt stirrup]

i like how they are slowly killing the game with shit updates lmfao

[hasty lynx]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/497092/make-crafting-items-stackable

dope update; please make crafting materials (old cloth, wolf pelt, etc) stackable

[subtle heart]

If you mean collector, it 5g.
If you mean trade, I saw lot of people selling it for 25g.

[thin onyx]

well i recorded the guy dropping class specific gear to his friend in the pre-lobby thing in goblin caves, got both their names in the clip... guess i'll just make a ticket

[frank prawn]

Where can I find information on all the different rolls for gear and how exactly they interact with damage ie: magical power vs additional magic damage vs true magic damage etc.

[vestal vault]

candy corn

[empty sigil]

Revert movespeed on existing items please Itonmace.

[narrow oyster]

any1 has crap fps since the latest update an hour ago ?

[supple sequoia]

I bought the game through Chaf and I'm stuck on a start screen and can't play what do I do?

[past lava]

All I was trying to say is that fighter is slightly underpowered in comparison to other classes in PvP specifically and I attributed that to the Knowledge stat. As of now, it's wasted compared to other classes distributions. It's all my opinion. And in my opinion, in relation to other classes that fill the Melee DPS roll - It's underpowered. Due to 15 Knowledge.

[somber kayak]

rogue 1shot to the body incoming lol

[chilly hemlock]

rogues gallore again smh

[sterile plover]

I really want to play the game but I can't buy it. Could someone buy the game for me or lend it?
In Brazil it's very expensive and I can't buy the game

[unkempt charm]

How do you get candy

[somber pawn]

you can play greed is good or whatever its cost

[vivid pendant]

boy better get you a piece and play that city of god in the favela

[timid sky]

@frail meadow nice hacks

[unkempt charm]

Vid

[steady zodiac]

god I had these stupid 15+/- lobbies. absolute waste of time and energy so you can help the lowest common denominator who will quit in a week anyways

[wraith pagoda]

game is stutter city as of patch : /

[little falcon]

how do u get candycorn

[narrow oyster]

I was having awesome performance before this latest update, now it's choppy as hell...

[nova ridge]

phantomize or blow of corruption, which is better?

[signal kindle]

I personally prefer blow of corruption

[floral mirage]

How do you get the candi corn?

[atomic stream]

drops rarely from mobs and chests

[cold mural]

where the candy corn

[ebon gulch]

fair. I dont know if knowledge being at 15 is the sole reason for an underpowered fighter, and i dont know if hes supposed be a dps focused class. Ive alwaya looked at fighter a frontliner, and he fills that role fairley well. Barb hits for more sure and warlock has BOC (which is overtuned imo) but being able to have insane PDR is the fighters strength. His lower dps doesn't matter as much since his trades are ussualy in his favor, even at ranged. magic wrecks fighter but thats intended, and slayer is always an option if you want to spec in to evasion tanking and higher dps, but i think what makes figther weak right now is his mandatory skills. They need to make second wind worse or make his other skills better in some way because fighter is the easiest to read class in the game. He needs tuning for sure, just dont know if his attributes should be the focus of that tuning

[forest relic]

how’s the patch boys

[atomic stream]

A little upsetting. +Weapon Damage is back in a big way. One shot builds will be happening again most likely. 😦

[subtle heart]

15 lobbies? WhT?

[steady zodiac]

you must be slow

[forest relic]

orly

[queen tide]

yeah really not sure what they were thinking on doing this

[subtle heart]

I just haven’t played yet and legit just opened chat up

[static swallow]

This game is really inconsistent right now. Painfully so.

[hushed crag]

anyone wanna help me know how to get them yummy candy corns?

[noble marsh]

i found a green +4 magical dammage spellbook seems balanced to me

[nova ridge]

does curse of pain agony stack?

[queen tide]

ive just been finding them in chests

[hybrid mist]

what do you guys think about making the party chats trio only?

[subtle heart]

Party chats more like farty chats

[remote yarrow]

So they rolled Back the Item Changes and we can have weapon damage etc again?

[atomic stream]

Me too, I'm so confused. The game felt like it was in such a good place.

[copper wave]

you guys just learning about this dev now i see huh

[noble marsh]

removing epic from shop is a good change, putting back +2 all / +4 magical dmg on greensies items is going to wild

[lime ledge]

what is wts on trade

[subtle heart]

Wanting to sell

[atomic stream]

"Want to sell"

[eager crow]

how do you get candy corn?

[atomic stream]

monsters & chests

[humble saffron]

Yo this game is tuff I’m getting rocked by everything and I mean everything lol

[real mantle]

is it possible for one person to have a diffent bug then every one else

[verbal scroll]

does anybody here have in-depth knowledge of editing the Engine.ini to change graphics settings? I'm using a minimalist .ini that I found a week or two ago on Reddit but it makes the targeting reticle on the ground for Lightning Strike and Holy Strike either disappear completely or become so thin and fine that it is practically invisible

[blissful elk]

try cleric

[livid pebble]

Where to find candy?

[atomic stream]

that's a recipie for getting banned messing with how the graphics display, I would be careful.

[hushed stag]

@rancid fulcrum the fact that you think that I personally believe
That the candy came FROM the vendor
Proves I'm talking to someone who is infact an absolute idiot

[remote yarrow]

Did they fully revert? So you can get +3 weapon damage on everything again?

[humble saffron]

What’s that? I’m using the rogue class :/

[nimble karma]

there really needs to be able to report a way to report teaming in GC and shit, love getting run down by a pair of barbarians in full greens who followed each other around all round

[verbal scroll]

ive seen the thread where the guy got banned for making the game look like a featureless brown gradient. my engine.ini tweaks, as far as I understand, only disable some postprocessing effects that damage my fps and frametimes

[atomic stream]

Use at your own risk, but given how other games react when players mess with stuff like that, it's only a matter of time before the anti-cheat picks up on it or they add it to their ToS.

[solar basin]

what is best weapon for barbarian

[jaunty jolt]

anyone know where old rusty key room is now?

[verbal scroll]

its not a cheat at all. its a file that is a part of the unreal engine itself that decides what graphics settings to use.

[stoic nexus]

why is the game so glitchy and laggy right now

[earnest current]

Rogue back ?

[slate swallow]

for 50g you can get +3 magical damage pants - so for 250g you get a full set and people are complaing about getting rolled????? you can have same stuff as everyone

[copper bay]

I think fighter would be better if it had perk reworks that raised damage after block instead of just attack speed and movement speed. It could incentivize more blocking and smart playing, without turning the fighter into a worse Barb who just holds attack to win. Shield, longsword and spear would all be viable weapons for a block and parry based fighter. For slayer you could maybe add a skill that lets you dodge a short distance in the direction you're currently moving to allow them to stay in the face and combo more, maybe tweak the combo attack perk to be better.

[proven yacht]

Hi guys, how do you get candy corn?

[atomic stream]

Monsters & Chests drop them rarely

[cold mural]

i am just straight up not having a good time idk if i just suck or what but ima a barbarian main looking for advice on not how to suck i run achiles and rage with robust iron will axe damage and savage but i just seem to die really fast to rangers and warlocks

[ebon gulch]

some perks would be a good change as well yeah, just need to figure out how to get people off the sprint/second wind meta lol.

[blissful elk]

Cleric can give himself a lot of buffs/heal oneself, also has some nice skills/good for clearing mobs

[cunning walrus]

how do u get candycorn

[copper bay]

second wind is just so strong, HP recovery is huge. Sprint could be phased out if movement speed wasn't so terrible for fighters, you just cant catch anyone who runs at all without it. I really don't know how you would balance around them to remove them without making fighter feel absolutely abysmal to play. Maybe a skill like shield wall where if you are holding a shield (blocking with it not required) you get like 50% damage reduction for 10 seconds or something

[sterile plover]

I really want to play the game but I can't buy it. Could someone buy the game for me or lend it?
In Brazil it's very expensive and I can't buy the game

[marsh pewter]

goblin caves (not HR) also changed? now its uplayable

[cold mural]

monsters and chest rare

[ebon gulch]

its all about fighting in conditions that amplify your strengths. Repositioning into closer quarters and not picking fights with ranged classes in open rooms is a good place to start.

[atomic stream]

I like the idea of second wind being cancelled if you take damage during its duration.

[polar lichen]

does warlock not heal off of curse of pain anymore???

[copper bay]

That is a good idea, would make it less of a pop when engage type thing. Although that would suck for slayer, I mainly use it on slayer as a way to not die immediatly when I rush someone

[gentle lagoon]

double jump needs removed

[old moat]

It definitely did this morning

[glad tree]

Give us option to pick which Goblin Caves map we want, I get HR map 9/10 times and its miserable

[polar lichen]

i had magical healing hood and gloves and had vamp perk on. didnt get any healing off bats/big spider/beetle

[cunning walrus]

it does heal 100%

[gentle lagoon]

this game needs finishers like mortal k0mbat would be cool

[blissful elk]

I second this

[remote yarrow]

You got the perk?

[copper bay]

or just dismemberment tbh

[deft hollow]

well im done with this game lol. Devs are like a teenage girl on her menstrual cycle. "we want to make fights last longer" Nerfs Rogue, buffs warlock. Readds +3 all, +8 weapon dmg. etc etc. And makes the game zero skill based. Literally just a spam left click sim. No skill just "well he had better gear so you died"

[restive stratus]

Yeah you need the torture mastery perk lol

[polar lichen]

so does pain not heal off normal magic spell healing or whatever?

[mystic agate]

If you can prove to me you are over the age of 16 I will personally send you $250 on any platform of your choosing

[ebon tiger]

How much would a purple padded tunic be worth w/ 3 Strength, 3 Weapon Dmg. 4.9% Phys Dmg

[gritty flume]

zap leading contender for nerfs rn wizard dps not changed at all, actually hugely buffed by the power shift from weapon damage to enchantment stats

[real mantle]

is anyone having relog after in a match

[gentle lagoon]

bout 25 gold want my ingame name?

[remote yarrow]

So its Back to dmg stacking 1 Shot fiesta again?

[scarlet umbra]

correct

[gentle lagoon]

yes 🤓

[glad tree]

thank god

[ebon tiger]

yes

[remote yarrow]

Why though? Should have reverted Attribute Changes but still Limit wep damage to 1 maybe 2 on weapons

[empty isle]

Bard song not healing

[narrow oyster]

anyone having worst performance than a few hours ago?

[indigo ginkgo]

Epic Games to layoff 860 employees. Oh Noes!

[versed arch]

does anyone know what the "Dark Reflection" perk does for warlock?

[remote yarrow]

You have to sit down and Camp during effect

[sinful tapir]

warlock broken awesome...

[mortal valley]

When are Falchion/Arming Sword/Viking Sword going to be brought in line with other weapons like Rapier?

[dusky sparrow]

Can anyone take this offer I could use the 250

[mystic agate]

No

[copper bay]

what you mean?

[dusky sparrow]

[old moat]

where do we get candy corn

[mystic agate]

the golem on ruins map. he guards them and must be defeated to access the lever to candy corn room

[faint lichen]

I've had gob wizards drop it

[versed arch]

anything can drop it

[grizzled badger]

anyone have issues with launcher not opening

[haughty ingot]

it has to be the guy he messaged dummy

[turbid gazelle]

Question!:

Has anyone had any issues on being on the receiving end of a Warlock's Blow of Corruption. I don't know about anyone else but I feel like there are dmg number inconsistencies.

I was at 115 HP earlier as a Fighter with about 40% Phys reduction and about 15% magic reduction but it still proceeded to one tap me and the weapon they used was a simple, white 32 dmg Falchion. Is there something I'm missing?

[dusky sparrow]

Look I figured I might as well shoot my shot ya know?

[ancient bridge]

Haven’t hopped on yet today can someone give me just a quick run down on wtf the jack o lanterns are?

[mystic agate]

Allows you to look at enderman

[surreal anchor]

i have an axe with 4 phys and 2+ all, they basically reverted the armor buff with these dmg buffs r9iight?

[ancient bridge]

Word.

[spring ferry]

it ended abnormaly wtf is that?

[knotty nova]

TTK going to be right back to where it was from last wipe...not sure why you would make changes to reduce it and then instantly throw those changes away

[fierce briar]

so seems like warlock is the shit people will spam till they nerf it since its giga broken busted and unfun to play vs cause any other class is sub par compared to it
yeah i will just summon a minion ,block doorways while leeching off of my own minion with now long range poke and 100-0 melee potential with infinite spells and heals

while rogue deals 20 dmg over 5 sec

[sand zenith]

So we spent a patch removing +3 all and felt the ramifications until wipe only to add them back.

[fallen ravine]

guess were back to play rogue, camp doors, and 2tap outta invis meta again

[obtuse harness]

Wasnt the luck potion duration until you died? I bought one of the super luck potions and brought in some Lockpicks to HR (wasnt Worth) and after i extracted and went into next game Luck Potion was gone. It only gave 100 luck for 150 G T-T

[sand zenith]

It’s only for a game.

[quasi storm]

grey warlocks being able to hit me for half my health with blow of corruption as a full geared fighter needs to fucking change

[ancient bridge]

Felt lmao

[royal violet]

🇾 🇺 🇲 🇲 🇾 🤤 🇷 🅰️ 🇳 🇬 🇪 🇷 🤤 🇹 🇪 🇦 🇷 s

[obtuse harness]

Could of swore the luck potions lasted til you died earlier I stop buying like 1week ago though i could just be missremembering

[quartz moth]

block with your shield and punish?

[old moat]

#awfulupdate

[sand zenith]

Misremembering

[frank delta]

Right? Like he can't 1 shot them if BoC is only doing 50% of their health

[fierce briar]

• all attributes takes any sense of itemization away since almost everything else pales to it
  super toxic to the game and its fucking dumb they put it back after we spent a whole wipe dealing with its remenants when some ppl had them others didnt, yeah great idea

[scarlet umbra]

run some + magic resist gear instead of -magic resist plate then

[tacit ember]

ANOTHER PATCH BUT WTF IS GOLD POWDER USED FOR SOMEONE PLS HELP

[lost gulch]

true lmao, a bunch of armors got hella magic resist now

[midnight night]

how do you get candy?

[frank delta]

looting

[quartz moth]

if you are getting one shot by a warlock with a falchion then you need to learn how to dodge a horizontal slash, we always aim for the head 😉

[echo plover]

Fix rollback

[sand zenith]

Streamers wanted it so they could gear diff people. Got ran down by rangorok with +3all gear last patch four separate times. I don’t have the time to grind HR bosses on welfare for 16 hours a day so I just can’t compete.

[tacit ember]

GOLD POWDER. WHAT IS IT. USED FOR

[vagrant path]

The shops need more greys and whites need to be cheaper. Weapon merchant only has 2 greys at a time and white weapons cost 25-35g

[last orbit]

this update, lmao

[digital fulcrum]

3 all is cancer. They just did a round of cemo and now it is back.

[scarlet umbra]

um ahctuwlly it's only +2 all this time 🤓

[fierce briar]

if im supposed to dodge then what makes u think he wont do the same ? oh cuz i have to outskill him and he has to missplay in order for me to win yeah sure makes sense

best part is HE DOESNT NEED IT
hydra
long range
leech
another hydra
bolts
more leech
oh u got close? now dodge a 90hp single hit

very unfun to play vs rn that shit is beyond busted

[restive mica]

just remove + all attributes and the game will be more balanced

[zinc cliff]

How much are the crafting materials going for?

[last orbit]

they had an 'okay' balance all of 4 hours ago

[tall aspen]

is there any where i can submit a question or complaint?

[vagrant path]

+2 all should only appear on epic and higher

[drifting egret]

How does one get candy corn?

[fierce briar]

buy it from warlocks who will kill timmies for their loot well they controll the market anyways cuz their class is broken

[tall aspen]

I need to ask about server stability and how to fix it. it is an awful experience right now and i keep trying but i cant even extract at this point

[vagrant path]

lmao, just bought +2 all spellbook for 50g from vendor, nice

[obtuse harness]

As a fighter main (i have 5 lvl 20s T-T, I know i have a problem) i actually have not had trouble with the locks. Are you using shield cause most their things including hydra can be blocked and if u block BoC they do no dmg. Knowing the fal out ranges my Arm sword i usually try and bait 1st swing or u can sprint jump into them and try and catch the Bow as a limb shot so it does 30 total damage vs 90.

[ancient bridge]

So if BOC hits your shield it goes away or whatever it hits? Also does that also take their health away?

[floral mirage]

i have not seen a single candy

[obtuse harness]

BoC is on hit to anything u could also have them hit a wall if u hu it on their swing side. It is easily outplayable but it does punish if you dont. And BoC doesnt its like a 18s cd i think

[floral mirage]

are the candy map spacific?

[obtuse harness]

Nah i got 25 atm on the new dude im playing unfor only thing in shoo worth buying is a spear and its 90 candies lol

[floral mirage]

i cannot find any

[honest token]

ROGUE IS BACK BABY

[edgy cedar]

There is a key to switch item fast trough my inventory and my stash ?

[fast current]

How the hell am I suppose to fight the skeleton mage in melee when they have the unnerfed fireball from the old steam playtest? For the 2nd time today I got instantly deleted by it in less than 2 seconds. It applys the fire debuff SEVERAL times in a second and each one deals full damage.

[obtuse harness]

Most i found on a map is i wanna say 6 but it could be four and i had a gobo cave where i unalived 5 player who also had 0 when i had 4 so i dont know if there is aonly x amount per dung or just rare

[nimble field]

My blacksmith wont open and its very very frustrating

[copper wave]

weird everything else works so well on this game

[subtle heart]

I'm A fighter main and am willing to try other Classes but I'm trying to find 2 other people that are down to Loot grind with me We will try to take on bosses and maybe hit the leaderboard?? Hmu if you are Interested My Name on discord is Swangin14#4149 Hope to see you in the Dungeons.

[copper bay]

why the speed removal from lanters? Was it really that broken? Made slayer a lot more fun to have the mobility

[obtuse harness]

Kite to a wall have it start fireball hide behind wall it will hurt it self run out do a swing or 2 depending on weap rinse repeate

[glad horizon]

3v1 in goblin caves, i get it its "organic" but as a fighter vs 2 rangers and a warlock, there is nothing organic about 3v1 in goblin caves....

[sand zenith]

That would really allow for streamers to capitalize on boss farming lol

[fast current]

A normal enemy needs a nerf when I'm having to use the enviroment to fight it like I'm cheesing cave troll...

[jagged stump]

Goblin shamans still bugged and shooting through walls/objects with phantom hitboxes still existing after the projectile hits the ground

[obtuse harness]

Not really do you stand infront of archers and not move lol. Its not cheesing cheesing is get skele champ on stairs so he cant hit you and autoing to death. Using your enviroment is strat you dont fight rangers in open areas you use narrow zones and hug cover same thing lol. Maybe should swap to an archer then

[fast current]

See, you can dodge the archers, you can dodge skele champ, you can dodge all the other guys, and even when they hit you it doesn't instant kill. Multiple times (twice today) I have gotten hit by a skeleton mage and it instantly (I'll clip it next time and show you) kills me. Takes less than 2 seconds and I'm just dead and gone.

[obtuse harness]

At a range of like 15 m u can side strafe the fireball. But it is a AoE explosion with a burn after effect. Not a arrow and typically it lobs it at your body so if yo side step it hits pretty much where u were and does still a good amount of DPS

[lapis pilot]

where do you buys arrows now? They removed Woodsman

[carmine coral]

scroll down

[quaint tartan]

I was loving the new stat changes
Really lowered gear dif

Now we are back to having the ability to build god kits that make your squad practically unkillable
Really fun....

[edgy lagoon]

I know eberyone loves complaing on here but honestly every class feels great to play right now and investing in your kits feels super rewarding, fights right now are challenging and fun and youre not just killing nakes, everyone has a couple good pieces of gear

[carmine coral]

also, anyone know where to get candy corn?

[obtuse harness]

I have only gotten from chest and they seem pretty rare.

[edgy lagoon]

dropping like candy from duos map, think i have almost 60

[ancient ingot]

"It ended abnormally. Please restart." anyone else disconnected with this message?

[soft ledge]

So quick question, why can a cleric use a rubysilver cuirass but not a normal cuirass?

[hollow kraken]

anyone else feel like the balancing is at an all time low right now?

[carmine hawk]

yes

[twilit sail]

does gold powder craft anything, haven't found anything for it yet

[edgy lagoon]

no

[raw token]

Yeah just had to restart client and all good

[karmic vortex]

Theses devs man

[ancient ingot]

Dang. Lost a cape and purple heavy leather pants because it decided to happen at the start of a fight :((

[onyx trout]

[soft ledge]

dc's do seem a lot more common even after the hotfix

[vagrant path]

They need an auction house with the new crafting stuff, I want to sell it to players but it just seems tedious

[whole geode]

balancing?

[lean harness]

Well, i missed the loot curve. now all of normal goblin is pumped full of geared people so i cant extract

[timid elk]

So play solo Crypts like a real man XD

[soft ledge]

or just make a new char ez

[last wren]

Hey so havnt played for some time is there still only 2 maps?

[trail dome]

https://streamable.com/u5eues

[quaint tartan]

Can we just revert these terrible changes now?
Instead of waiting 2 weeks to do it and creating this "pre nerf" gear meta

Like how can we be doing the same exact thing that happened last wipe. I'd argue this is worse than last wipe.

[gritty flume]

So many bs deaths into a dc into a game crash stuttering the whole time. All my other games play perfectly. Hopefully the game will be playable one day

[hardy juniper]

what enemy drops "firefly abdomen"?

I've never seen a firefly mob. Only dragonflies or death beetles

[glad horizon]

Great points, wait there aren't any

[obtuse harness]

Most gear ppl are trash though I have 2x warlock sets with tons of MP and Heal Magi on my main fighter and i got them in like 3rd game today with grey gear and a greeen arm sword. I dont know what class your playing but hasnt been to bad today scariest yolked dude i ran into was a barb and i died cause i was to pridefull vs shld of played hit and run lol

[light surge]

anyon expericing severe rubber banning

[obtuse nest]

im confused, are there 3 dif goblin cave layouts?

[gritty flume]

I constantly experience multiple different kinds of latency effects. Rubberbanding, stuttering, input lag, everything. Internet is 100% fine. It's definitely the game

[cinder mural]

how get candy corn

[karmic vortex]

fuck rangers

[pulsar echo]

i just extracted, and whe n i hit return to lobby, everything in my stash and inventory was gone except the clothes on my body. I reset the client, my pc and the game. When i log back i, its telling me the game is in progress still. When i say yes to go back in, it just keeps saying it until eventually shooting me back inot the creat a character screen where all my chars are gone

[past sundial]

suggestion, shorten BOTH rogue ability durations AND cooldowns to encourage more In and out type playstyle and not jumpscare all in one shot

[golden hollow]

game crash?

[limber atlas]

Less portals please and add an option to report for teaming

[tidal yoke]

Shit fucking lag

[wild jay]

Discord is hurting the game 👍

[near pivot]

goblin drop candy?

[low gorge]

is strength good for rangers?

[glad horizon]

Seriously so many casuals teaming in solo and they added extra zones, less people, and a portal, how easy do they need the game to win

[gritty vine]

it is so lame that the GREY weapons or gear is not avaialble all the time at a cheap price, there's no inbetween stuff that you can buy from merchants, ruined the game in my eyes since my only fun was Grey Longsword.

[hollow kraken]

anyone else see stuff on traders and be like "oo that'd be great for my wizard" then wizard just has the worlds worst rolled stuff in the game or is it just me lol

[tiny bronze]

wah wah wahhhh

[glad horizon]

wah wah wahhhh

[fringe kraken]

@zinc sparrow stop silently nerfing classes like bard brother add it onto the patch notes why dont ya

[vagrant path]

weaponsmith literally has 2 greys, it's stupid

[last zinc]

2 of my friends dark and darker clients will not open on their PCs. Just black screen and then nothing. Heaps of people posting about this on the reddit as well with no real solutions able to be found, just fake ones.

Anyone know if the devs are aware of this?

[blissful elk]

my weaponsmith has more than 2 greys

[tiny bronze]

waahhhh wahhhhh wahhhhh

[vagrant path]

then it has 3, at most 4. For the guy who sells the highest variety of class items, it's goofy

[wispy ridge]

it ended abnormally please restart

[lost gulch]

i love it when im playing gc and i go the entire game no problem then as soon as i see my first enemy player my game freezes and i die

[granite dragon]

They literally JUST made the changes to the vendors. Give them time to tweak it? xD

[karmic vortex]

35$ just for this game to suck ass

[lost gulch]

grey arming sword from weaponsmith is 25g wtf

[quaint tartan]

🤓

[storm tree]

sooo one question did they add back 2 and 3 all attributes on items ?

[blissful elk]

mine has 7 greys and some whites included, maybe just bad RNG

[granite dragon]

"Play's Video games but sucks at all of them." I mean your profile speaks volumes. I think its you sir.

[karmic vortex]

Thats just there for the profile genius

[gritty vine]

I have NO GREY NO WHITE LS, GIVE US BACK THE 10g LS, the STORE IS RUINED!

[tiny bronze]

For real for real

[keen forum]

Can we get some Warlock emotes in the discord please? @zinc sparrow

[vagrant path]

Youre right it's RNG, I just checked expecting 3 or more and this time there is 1 grey, and it's a round shield lmao

[tender sparrow]

whats gold powder for

[fallen marsh]

can you just not move at all when youre in the swarm and it gets really dark?????

[shadow lotus]

• all at or nothing. game is fucking shit again. how boring

[keen forum]

No you can move around.

[shell canyon]

NERF THE RANGER PLEASE. YOU JUST KEEP MAKING THEM BETTER PLEASE STOP

[last zinc]

so no one knows about the game not launching even though there are about a million people talking about this in this discord

[charred oasis]

Dude... the block from spider mummy is some kind of bad joke

[crimson burrow]

new spider room in goblin caves doesnt play around bro god damn

[pulsar pebble]

im more geared on a lvl 11 fighter in the last 2 hours then i was at the end of last wipe when i spent 3k on a uber kit

[onyx steppe]

m8 ive played two hr crypt and two norm crypt killing lots of mobs not a single candy?

[karmic vortex]

Just there for the profile. But you may be right I do suck at some games

[lost gulch]

day 3 no grey falchion on weaponsmith its all just blues

[glad horizon]

holy cow, play fighter with a bow and you destroy them

[half beacon]

WHERE ARE THE FUCKING BLUE PORTALS

SPAWNS 3 REDS BUT NOT 1 BLUE OK THANKS IRONMACE THERE ARE TEAMS YKNOW WHO WANNA EXTRACT IN MORE THAN JUST 1 FUCKING PLAYER

[quiet drum]

need help, anyone know how i can get spider silk

[austere sentinel]

try playing in fullscreen mode? just fixed it for a friend of mine

[keen forum]

Big spiders in HR gob or any map that have them

[quiet drum]

ty very much

[raw token]

Ily

[thin fulcrum]

seriously delete the rogue class and do us all a favor so we stop pretending it exists and is playable.

[worthy sonnet]

Where do u get candy

[fair bluff]

Devs but why 😦 this was not the move

[karmic vortex]

fr

[copper bay]

whats enchanted dark fabric worth?

[idle night]

Is there a place I can see where the new crafting materials drop from?

[fair bluff]

So excited to play when i got home but had to do life. Finally about to get on at 8:10 and i see this ABOMINATION less than 2 days after one of the best patches ever. Just so sad to see :’(

[lethal lance]

Does gold sell well to the merchants or is it just for crafting?

[idle night]

you can sell to other players, its probably worth a fair bit

[whole geode]

https://tenor.com/view/kozhi-nuclear-bomb-gif-18586883

[deft lintel]

We are going to have Gods running around the dungeon now lol

[lethal lance]

Eh, would rather have quick selling goods than look for deals with other people

[fair bluff]

Then hold it for crafting. Selling to vendor is a waste of time and effort, just like playing this patch. I have sent devs so many words of encouragement after all the PTs and even had then respond to me in DMs, i will not be playing until this is changed. Why add buffball stat meta back… it just is mind blowing

[lethal lance]

Tis why i ask if you get a good amount of gold selling it to the merchants

[crystal sapphire]

did inventories wipe?

[remote yarrow]

How much dmg does Kris dagger do now? Still at work

[smoky prawn]

just never going to nerf cleric i guess hes the korean messiah

[fair bluff]

#boycott this patch ill b playing osrs

[errant rapids]

ye very bad patch

[crystal sapphire]

did inventories wipe?

[cursive trail]

@shy mulch we need a crusher we have powerful barb and cleric

[old moat]

i've always kind of understood where ironmace was coming from even if i disagreed sometimes, but the patch revert might be the worst thing i've seen them do, the game was actually fun for a day lol

[shut mantle]

someone said +2 and 3 werent back, i just killed someone that dropped a +2 all loose trousers 😦

[vagrant path]

It's honestly crazy that they've tweaked loot drops as much as they have high roller gobo caves still aren't worth

[leaden siren]

anyone selling a centar horn?

[glad horizon]

isn't a air plane bud, don't need your departure

[old moat]

that was cringe and you're bad at english

[fair bluff]

🫡i hope the rest of your night is just as pleasant as your are

[vestal silo]

what is the new ability that lets warlock be rangers?

[glad horizon]

heading off with your bff jill?

[leaden siren]

anyone selling a centar horn?

[shut mantle]

Whyd that guys message get removed? So this +2 all is from before the wipe? Should i trash it?

[vapid wind]

Intended feature? @zinc sparrow Heavy boots giving more armor rating than plate boots?

[vestal silo]

barbuta also gives more armor than visored barbuta. And visored barubta gives will which one of the least wanted stats fora fighter

[eager nebula]

I feel like movespeed has gone insane in this update

[idle night]

where are gold mining spots

[runic stone]

W patch?

[fair bluff]

/s

[glad tree]

game is fun again ty iron mace gods

[vestal silo]

warlock is op now

[runic stone]

Hes not op but hes finally viable now

[echo hedge]

blow of corruption has always been kinda op

[deep sapphire]

Does anyone know where candies are found?

[wicked parrot]

WHATS EVERYONE CRYING ABOUT NOW?

[vestal silo]

he became a ranger with infinite sustain

[knotty kernel]

Everyone seems to be upset that gear matters again

[runic stone]

I think the game is forsure in a way better state than its been before everythings cheaper as well and its easier to find better gear

[wicked parrot]

gear has to matter to a degree, thats what this game is all about, theyre just finding the sweet spot of skill vs gear

[cunning arrow]

guys should i buy the game now or wait till it might go back to steam

[knotty kernel]

I am happy with this patch, the devs actually put their foot down and said yeah this doesnt match our vision of the game, and went with the unpopular choice. I should give them more credit they did something similar with the healing changes as well.

[runic stone]

i think they are headed in the right direction here all they need to do is maybe nerf gear a tad bit that way random perks matter alittle more

[echo hedge]

I only really care that Cleric remains A+ tier in all aspects (mega healing, super ranged dps, great physical defence/dps, unlimited spell charges with 10 seconds of resting or clarity pots, etc...)
Hard to desire to ever play solo while every comp needs a cleric or it's trolling

[runic stone]

I think the nerf to rogue agility and hide making the duration require a perk was a good step also that way rogues have to sacrific perks for others been lovin the game rn i can forsure see warlocks sustain with vampirism being op with god gear but thats again with any class

[old moat]

i always enjoy when people who don't even have a mastery over 3rd grade english tell us why they "think" a patch is good or bad

[knotty kernel]

Rogue already had to sacrifice perks, their is a bunch of perk bloat with that class, but yes nerfing hide was the right decision. Hides long cooldown led to passive gameplay on all parties parts.

[noble remnant]

Game was great for a day. Why ruin such a good thing?

[safe thistle]

good fix, Occultist boots were broken AF...rogues love is not enough but at least is in the right direction

[shadow widget]

They went for the popular choice, catering to the bads

[runic stone]

How so ? everything they did was a step in the right direction? Or did you also want unlimited hide

[rotund seal]

Bad patch

[carmine hawk]

11 strength on padded tunic nice patch

[noble remnant]

Huge Random modifiers are cancer

[rotund seal]

game is horrible , i can't belive they made me fans of there game bfore , now im disgusting

[shadow widget]

What exactly? Destroying two classes and making plate wearers godlike?

Removing any stimulae to play with always available vebdor stuff?

Besides, as a rogue I can tell you that hide duration doesnt matter at all

[cunning arrow]

its so funny to me that there is two different reactions to this patch

[vestal silo]

warlocks can shoot projectiles across the room with seemingly no charge time

[rotund seal]

Horrible they need a wipe again iamgine they fuktop all the wipe 2 day in

[rigid panther]

Barb OP

[vagrant path]

+2 all should be limited to purps and up

[eager nebula]

I'm confused as to why they re-added big all atts rolls after removing them because they're extremely stupid

[keen condor]

can I block a players attack by holding my shield in block mode, or do I have to swing my screen in the direction of the attack?

[rotund seal]

They should have you in there team man , u have bigger brand then ironmace

[gilded prairie]

You have to aim your blocks.

[vestal silo]

+2all shouldnt be in the game. The point of stats is so that you have to prioritze them according to a certain playstyle. With +all you can just mash in as much stats as possible

[loud oasis]

Hey guys +5 damage on every piece of gear is totally balanced

[glad horizon]

If you read discord long enough your brain rots

[vagrant path]

This is game discussion, I don't know what you expected but people's opinion about what the game is like and what it should be

[knotty kernel]

When +5 magic and weapon damage is inthe game than yes that does compete with +3all

[tawdry inlet]

Rogues almost playable again, didn't see a single rogues since wipe. Maybe today

[tepid hazel]

its hard to tell how this will all imapct the game, till the sweaty death balls begin to gear up, right now its fine

[solar mauve]

Why does the "in dungeon" always stay at 18k and "lobby" 11k in player list?

[spring basin]

bro did they buff skeleton crossbowman

[old moat]

they f'd up the wolves, even when you circle strafe they lag hit you

[real mantle]

i can't play i keep dc

[solar raft]

bad lag made me die. rip

[solar mauve]

any playtest seemed better then the current game, bye for a couple months.

[loud oasis]

The invis bug is back

[willow jacinth]

been tryin to get game to work but i keep having a error on boot up saying Fatal error!

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ILLEGAL_INSTRUCTION

anyone know how to fix this?

[thin fulcrum]

reinstall

[tawdry inlet]

Wdym?

[shell marten]

when will ironmace learn how to change the values on items still in the game? purple lantern with 10 movespeed. "veteran devs"

[vestal silo]

why is dark missilie a thing? bolt of darkness*

[knotty kernel]

They did change the items though, I had lanters going all the way up to blue rarity they all lost their movespeed with the hotfix

[steady valve]

This game is gonna be dead so soon with how it’s looking lmao dear god

[shell marten]

they 100000% did not, just saw a purple lantern with 10 movespeed

[vagrant path]

Trying to sell crafting items without an auction house is not worth the time, all that shit besides the more expensive stuff is getting vendored lol

[loud creek]

ok Greed is Good bot, we hear you

[steady valve]

Ok iron mace D sucking bot

[shell marten]

and all the +14 movespeed occultist boots are still in the game, explain that

[old moat]

they didn't wipe items so if you got them yesterday they're still in stash ^

[knotty kernel]

I believe the old occultists boots are still in the game, but with the lanters, all mine lost the movespeed.

[shell marten]

youre lying

[knotty kernel]

Why? for what purpose would I have to lie about this, I am merely telling you what happened. I had 5 lanterns in my inventory going from rarity from grey to white to green to blue, every single one of them lost the movespeed when the hotfix dropped.

[drifting hinge]

Where can you find candy

[viscid needle]

Anyone else game not letting them update?

[potent marlin]

are explosive bottles worth to use?

[whole geode]

when u equip a legacy lantern u can see the movespeed

[hasty valley]

so much tears in this discord, grow up ppl

[knotty kernel]

enemy mobs mostly sometimes chests

[drifting hinge]

Thank you, I remembered this was a thing before, But I didnt remember where to get it. At least its from random mobs then 😄

[knotty kernel]

oh is that it, the stat only appears while equiped? and not in inventory?

[steady tundra]

Anyone know what the rotten fluids are used for? have never seen it before

[runic stone]

I think its crafting

[shell marten]

Lol, idiot

[cloud oar]

Is it me or is it more difficult than ever to extract in crypts?

[worthy cradle]

IM not having a way to change existing gear when making balance changes is so pathetic

[heady oxide]

They should just wipe again

[tidal coral]

looking for 3rd to fight lich boss lmk

[subtle heart]

give it 2 days when we wipe again after the next hotfix omega lol

[twin portal]

LFG New to game wanting to grind

[summer pawn]

Are you guys still having rubberbanding issues?

[stuck iron]

The game has never been this unbalanced before, incredible

[high sigil]

I remember before that holiday vendors used to beable to sell Legendaries (Orange) and Epics (Purple) not just Epics, should that be brought back? or was that just only more ok when the game was only available for a week at a time.

[high sigil]

High Roller layouts being in normal roller is causing that.

[pulsar pebble]

so our group went 3 hours, never wiped. im a lvl 13 fighter with +1 all at least in every slot. i have 70% damage reduction from armour and 124 hp. if you got rolled by us tonight. Im sorry, wasnt my idea to screw up the loot table. lol

[bronze walrus]

Yeah probably not in this version of the game balance where they seem like they went oranges to be harder to obtain given that the removed oranges entirely from normal lobbies. Legendries for candy when they just added crafting would maybe feel out of place.

[vestal silo]

visored barbuta giving will as base stats. Why? Also why does barbuta have more base armor than visored barbuta?

[safe thistle]

are warlocks leaching hp from hydra intended?

[earnest current]

Playing 20 games, encountering all 20 games when jumping, you will definitely see Bar hit the leg but 1 hit will kill you just like hitting the head but it's a basic Ax, plus a new hack Devs can't check, hackers can hit anywhere Calculate head damage, but when I hit the head with 4 hits, it's only 30% as much as hitting the legs

[inland magnet]

I just bought this game today. I’m trying to play The Goblins Caves: Normal. I’m currently solo. However, when I try to start this map I keep getting a message that reads: Please Select Region.

[knotty nova]

Why would it not

[pulsar pebble]

theres a server selection drop down on the lower left. gotta pick a region

[safe thistle]

cuz in a this game were hp regen is hard and slow process i see it kinda op, requiring 0 effort to do

[tulip elk]

no one is buying anything on the market lol the prices are shot for good items

[inland magnet]

Silly me. Thank you!

[bronze walrus]

I actually love the new 'loot tables' rn where greens with nice rolls (new bonus changes are fire) can make you a threat to a team in full purples. Defenitely may feel a bit busted as you get strong stats with some nice greens but I think its great to augment the power curve like this and see how the game flow changes.

[knotty nova]

Regen isn't hard or slow though?

[glass silo]

no theres just no one in the market cause people arent playing

[pulsar pebble]

yea thats fine and all til 15 and some @sshole shoots you with a longbow and a combined +30 bonus damage. lol.

[safe thistle]

i mean it is not ...for them yeah

[subtle heart]

id say keep it in, its an interesting interaction that requires 2 spells to pull of

[tulip elk]

160 in barb trade right now....

[bronze walrus]

No actually fair enough +bonus damage is quite easy to stack now lol

[glass silo]

excactly there was 500 + in barb and 600 + in fighter just 2 weeks ago these shit changes are making ppl leave

[pulsar pebble]

yea 😦 My main issue, is they dont seem to have the ability to roll back gear AFTER a patch. IF say in 2 days they could make all +4 weapon damage gear into +1 damage gear of the same style, then id have no issue with the sillyness thats going on now. But if they change stuff in 2 days, 10 days, 30 days, those items will be there until the end of the wipe. Really messes with the flow of the game if they choose to change their minds later

[knotty nova]

its not for most everyone. You're just nitpicking. Potions, Bandages, Campfire, Sitting, Tranquility, Cleric Heals

[last owl]

Do items worn on belt I.E drums flutes ect, with + stats still apply the bonus while on belt or only when held?

[safe thistle]

they can sustain and stay as along as they like in the zone...with out having pve near... if u rly think that is not op u are delusional or maining a lock and just greedy af

[lethal silo]

duos is only ranger ranger comps

[pulsar pebble]

only when held. they used to apply on waist, it was broken and they fixed it

[knotty nova]

who cares if they can stay in the zone? LOL. what are they going to do out there?

[last owl]

Thanks!

[safe thistle]

this guy XD bro its oke, they will notice this at some point

[limber canopy]

is there a way to take a single ore from a pile?

[knotty nova]

only one of us is having problems with warlocks and it aint me, so keep your crying baddie

[lethal silo]

ran into a lobby with 10 rangers out of 18 players, obviously something is wrong if one class is being played

[glass silo]

alt + left click drag

[bronze walrus]

Yeah, given that they're experimenting for data its a bit weird they don't have something like this already. I wonder why they haven't already got a feature for this given that legacy items would (very likely) pollute their data

[floral cosmos]

is warlocks new changes good?

[limber canopy]

thanks papi

[subtle heart]

I dont really enjoy busted legacy items they exist after changes, but i also dont enjoy wiping a lot

[tawdry inlet]

I think rogues should have more of their native abilities turned into perks, perhaps "Sword mastery" enabling use of short sword and rapier? What do you think? Should I make it a suggestion? Also why do they need 4 perk slots, three seems like more than enough on those filthy rats

[pulsar pebble]

it FEELS like it should be a really easy thing to develop. especially if all the gear is server side. Or heck, just give them gold value and delete the items from stashes. literally anything lol

[plain wagon]

how about "leg mastery", giving us the ability to walk.

[safe thistle]

you are delusional buddy if u rly think that is oke, or just an ass of a person that mains warlock, what else can i say? get real once in ur life

[merry marlin]

Make headshot multiplier on rogue big, limb and body multiplier small, now the class is more skill based

[tawdry inlet]

Aye, I like that. Devs! Implement this shiet

[agile elm]

they keep adding more pve trash into every room, u cant even see players because ur too busy clearing trash

[stoic isle]

Did they revert goblin caves map? Just played 2 on the old map? Anyone comfirm?

[spark musk]

Good

[knotty nova]

I dont play a warlock I just don't cry about them being able to leech when thats their class identity. Keep crying kid

[plain wagon]

i will say the hydra spam is really tough for rogue

[pulsar pebble]

the maps are semi modular. you can get a map with basically the entire old layout

[safe thistle]

i understand that they should do that, but not as a infinite resource without effort

[stoic isle]

Ok neat I thought so and didnt see mention was worried I love the new map system and new/old modules!

[bronze walrus]

I think we should be able to assign a name to our pet hydra in game. (I'd name my hydra philbert)

[old moat]

can people be reported for trioing in ruins?

[plain wagon]

My hydra would be Jeromeo

[pulsar pebble]

yea they build the maps in square sections and align all the doors and pathways so they can shuffle them around. its like that on ruins too, its sometimes why when your walking around you think you know where you are, then you open the door and its not the room you figured it would be

[bronze walrus]

If I could have 2 hydras at once I'd name the second Alberto

[austere plover]

(Developer Notes:
With the Early Access Patch #1 we wanted to have a clean baseline to start balancing the numerous weapons, armors, and classes. In order to do this we needed to flatten and restrict the range of values of many of the parameters in the game. Our plan is to slowly build up from this baseline with what we've observed and learned during the EA to get to a sweetspot that players across a wide range of needs can enjoy the game.)

This is almost comical. These devs have 2 speeds, full breaks and full gas. So EA patch 1 lasted what 2 days? Then they open the flood gates on gear stat rolls, and they talk about "we wanted to get a baseline and then slowly build up" 🤣🤣

[amber anvil]

is there like a wiki snapshot before tuesday patch? I wanted to compare some stuff before and after

[pulsar pebble]

its baffling. "we feel combat speed is too fast, so we are going to give you +8 weapon damage on a blue, and you can stack +18 across the rest of your loadout, so now you can 1 click entire lobbies while falling asleep at the pc" lol

[earnest scaffold]

Best part, they will then try to balance down but it won't help because they can't get rid of lagacy gear

[late vale]

So is the +3 ponzi scheme meta back?

[earnest scaffold]

Next patch is gonna be a nerf to attributes on weapons and armor but all sweaters will still be full geared with legacy gear and we will get no data whatsoever

[pulsar pebble]

its worst then that man. can get +4 weapon damage now. lol

[austere plover]

Yeh it's unfortunate too, game has hella potential but all this back and forth will just hurt the population.

[late vale]

Fucking what?

[rocky canyon]

does quick reload work with crossbow?

[loud oasis]

U can get +5

[south badge]

Data retrieved 🤓 fun detected 🤓 eliminate

[pulsar pebble]

i sent you a screen shot of a combined +8 damage bonus survival bow that was in my shop earlier today. lol

[earnest scaffold]

Either that or they don't play the game at all. I can't explain why they make the same mistake over and over again BUT WORSE

I thought they wanted to take speed out of the gameplay

[pulsar pebble]

i actually lowkey think its a database entry error. lock boots had 14 move speed. they now have 4. your telling me they nerfed it 10 points? OR.....it was meant to be 4, and someone misstyped into the data field. lol

[fresh roost]

this game is getting worse on every update..

[main raven]

Pretty sure this is what it was

[topaz wing]

if you have two clerics do the buffs stack?

[lilac yoke]

They’ll likely run back todays patch on the stats in some amount leave the legacy gear in and ruin the competitive top end for the rest of the wipe (again)

[noble remnant]

Ironmace is great. Hold the line. But todays patch was a bad idea. +6 damage on all items is just nonsense.

[earnest scaffold]

Not even. Last patch was the most fun I had. And I used to be a gear disparity defender. I was so wrong.

[pulsar pebble]

This is the first time ive been upset with them. you cant be telling everyone your slowing down combat and then pushing todays patch. it just doesnt make logical sense lol

[main raven]

Nope. You could stack Cleric bufss on top of similar Warlock buffs to be really juiced, though. So long as the Warlock uses Eldritch Shield, there's little to no downside to PoS and Bloodblade.

[austere plover]

That's exactly what they will do. It just baffles me that they just repeat this cycle over and over

[lilac yoke]

Probably someone drawing a pay check just for tuning stats so he can’t make the game to fun or balanced or he’ll be out the door

[pulsar pebble]

i feel bad for the rookies. people going to stay under level 15 so they dont have to deal with BIS chads with 35 weapon damage bonus. and this time....i wont actually blame them for smurfing.

[late vale]

Anyone has a link to a page for possible enchant rolls? I want to see the death i will meet after coming home

[earnest scaffold]

It is so streamers can get stuffed full of legacy gear by their viewers and steamroll everything, feeding their delusions they are exceptionally good

Once they find out they are just average gamers, they gonna stop playing

[pulsar pebble]

the streamers wont matter. i dont care about 30 players. i care about the 200 or so die hard, chronically online gigachads that are grabbing up as much of this gear as they can, because they know the walkback is likely coming

[drifting hinge]

One thing I am hoping to see soon, is no rangers camping open portals

[timber eagle]

@keen talon yo dm me pls

[quasi storm]

nerf holy shock jesus christ

[half beacon]

why is every character but ranger, cleric and warlock shit

[loud oasis]

Lmao just had a +2 all +2 magical healing in my shop for 100. Sold it for 500 in like 5 seconds

[keen plume]

the ranger favoritism from the devs is insane

[drifting hinge]

Someone in this chat 5 min ago said lobbies were all rouge now, I dont know what to belive

[vestal silo]

"it ended abornmaly please restart" anyone else?

[pulsar pebble]

someone saying rogues are broken, even after tonights hotfix, is just new at the game or bad lol. we absolutely smashed every rogue we found tonight lol

[half beacon]

yea fr rogues aren't good

[loud oasis]

Rogues are not broken... their daggers still tickle

[pulsar pebble]

i had a great time on my fighter, falchion + windlass. i got me alot of wizard kills shooting them in the head while they were casting Pest control is here lol

[half beacon]

i smash rogues with ease now... unless theyre buffed by wizard and cleric then theyre actually good but still cant get passed my healing from a cleric its actually sad how only a few characters are meta

[tardy sandal]

I two shot a rogue that did 1/10th of my hp (I used protection before the fight)

[tacit iris]

Warlocks are camping infinitely in the dark swarm by summoning their hydra and life draining it. I feel like that's not the intended use.

[half beacon]

^^^ warlocks are invincible now

[drifting hinge]

you need at least +2 magical healing for that I think, and still it takes alot of time and effort

[twin portal]

LFG New to game

[earnest scaffold]

Try #lfg-northamerica

[rapid vapor]

Does anyone know if phantomize will let you dodge liches aoe bolt

[tardy sandal]

Dude, the shops are absolutely cracked right now, they sell +3 stat gear all the time now because of this patch, magical healing has never been easier to get for warlocks

[half beacon]

i feel the game isnt any better than it was b4 wupe

[drifting hinge]

Not after the hotfix few hours ago? I havnt found any last hours, and if you do its gonna cost you

[glass silo]

just got 2 shot by holy strike and judgement nice!

[half beacon]

typical cleric annihilation like bruh

[thin quarry]

Can I ask a serious question. Why would they revert the stat changes. I thought it was all jokes when I heard people say gear stat maxed teams W keying. No it just happened. The barb was stacked in 2+ true phys.
Like why?

The game felt so good yesterday and it's back to feeling like a pile of $h1T

[tardy sandal]

The hotfix only removed purples on shop, while adding in a drastically increased chance for items to have +2 +3 stats now

[loud oasis]

The scaling with clerics is insane rn, magic damage +5 on everything and you are fucked

[rapid vapor]

They also added +3 all stats again. I dont understand why

[granite mulch]

Skill issue

[quasi storm]

getting hit with holy shock is the most disgusting thing in goblin caves. theres no counter

[knotty kernel]

It appears the stat changes they made with the patch were a mistake. They were attempting to even out the powerlevel since they gave a bunch of items free stats. But they must have realized with the weapon nerfs that the ttk became too low.

[earnest topaz]

haven't played yet this patch, what classes are hitting the hardest in the solo caves?

[loud oasis]

I havent died once as cleric in gc

[coral raptor]

ranger and cleric warlock will probly get nerfed

[drifting hinge]

They are not that good, still get killed very often by rangers just shooting you from distance haha, also they said all classes getting buffs now so you will be able to deal with stuff

[half beacon]

cleric warlock or ranger @earnest topaz

[tardy sandal]

As a cleric, I can confirm its hilariously easy to hit someone with it, the hitbox of that spell is so much larger then it actually shows while casting

[quasi storm]

just play cleric and run holy shock and judgment. you cant lose

[golden pasture]

AHAHAHAH AGAIN ROGUE 2 TAP ME AHAHAHAHAHA NICE ONE I HAD 1 WEEK OF HAVING FUN OF THIS GAME AND NOW U REVERTED IT DOGS

[loud oasis]

No, smite and holy strike is meta for me, lol. Ive mae like 5k+ since patch

[earnest topaz]

it's really not like me to play a class as slow as cleric but i'll def give it a try. seems like all the rage

[lofty ruin]

what are the chances they revert this wipe and just start over? i feel if they don’t they’re leaving the opportunity for half the player base to give up and wait for the next one in about a weeks time lol

[thin quarry]

48 hours is not nearly enough time to revert changes. I seriously question why and how ironmace manages this game.

[coral raptor]

why even have a solo if groups get 10x better gear and just own the actual solos in their own mode

[pallid vine]

these mobs are wild now

[tardy sandal]

Love the game but the devs are giving zero incentive to go into hell, do bosses, do high roller, or do anything risky

[earnest topaz]

wow, so the consensus is that this new stuff sucks?

[kind osprey]

cause fuck people who don't have friends.
also is it true +3 all attributes are back?

[quasi storm]

they keep reverting good changes like the rogue nerfs, adding +3 back into the game

[remote yarrow]

Well its mostly old stuff from 4 Patches ago. Like +3 +all

[coral raptor]

yes they are back 🤢

[golden pasture]

IRONMACE DID THEIR FUCKING EXIT ON US THEY TOOK OUR MONEY NO REFUND AND NOW THEY RUIN THE GAME BY SHITTY MAPS 7 PLAYERS ONLY IN SOLOS AND FUCKING BUFFING ROGUE AGAIN TO THE POINT HE CAN 2 SHOT YOU XDXDXDXDXDXD

[tardy sandal]

Literally get a full inventory of sellables in normal and you can buy +3 (insert stat here) with +2 all attribute gear for like only 75 gold from a shopkeeper, if you can get that from playing normals why learn bosses

[thin quarry]

Doesn't suck it's just they contradict every patch and update by going back on what they said in previous wipes.

[lofty ruin]

i’ve seen like 50% they’re back and 50% they’re not and yet to see one in game

[calm jacinth]

250 HP BARB COOL GAME IRONMACE SO MUCH COUNTER PLAY 2 THAT

[coral raptor]

true I might just be being trolled

[remote yarrow]

Stack +3 +3 damage on all items and 2 Shot him

[knotty nova]

is it +3 or does it stop at 2? I havent seen a single 3 yet

[knotty kernel]

I honestly don't know I assume 3 but I have only ever seen it go as high as 2 so far.

[lofty ruin]

easier said than done, the people stacked enough to play a 250 health barb probably have two other stacked mates ready to plow. you cant expect people to go into every game preparing to fight that

[rapid vapor]

Ive been repeatedly told +3. The subreddit wont stop talking about it

[golden pasture]

@subtle heart @zinc sparrow @glad thunder WHY THE FK ARE YOU CHANGING THIS GAME BACK BEFORE THE PATCHES WHEN ROGUES WERE OP AND FKING +3 ALL KIDS TEAMING IN SOLOS ??? NO SKILL ANYMORE ONLY GEAR DIFF XD

[knotty nova]

the subreddit is full of pepegas though, so I'll wait to see one before I believe it

[remote yarrow]

Well they also posted a +5 +5 dmg crossbow. That one is an old Item though

[shy mulch]

@sharp radish @cursive trail im playing minecraft guys what the Heck.

[winged meteor]

Will bladelocks ever get perks that are aimed towards them?

[silent fulcrum]

that would b so epic

[rapid vapor]

I'll also point out the announcement says they added the +all attributes from before the previous patch, which implies they're in

[silent fulcrum]

i'm getting SO much lag/framerate issues since the patch

[earnest scaffold]

Does someone have proof that +3 all is back? I haven't seen it yet.

I mean +2 all is bad enough but still

[loud oasis]

+2 is back

[pulsar pebble]

+2 and +3 all are in. I saw it tonight in the shop. Also seen +4 weapon damage. Someone said they saw +5 weapon damage earlier too. Easiest place to see it in the candy vendor. But youll see it in other merchants too

[tardy sandal]

+2 bad enough, people were already willing to pay top dollar for +1 on a blue or purple 🗿

[earnest scaffold]

God, devs. Why

[pulsar pebble]

No one knows. Lol. But majority of us feel the same

[loud oasis]

It devalues gear so you can run better shit, but itll even out soon

[heavy python]

hotfix is good, but how TF DID THEY BUFF BARB?

[thin quarry]

It really won't not when the shop is giving it away. Not when you have people able to open gold chests to get nutty gear.

[pallid vine]

why do mobs target you from no where near you

[jagged dew]

when are they gonna fix explosive bottles istg they are pointless the fire cant even kill a normal skeleton standing in it

[crude path]

Anyone have already a centaur horn? I am trying to buy but nobody sells it

[kind osprey]

its magic damage, so if you're a low will class or don't stack mag damage, they do nothing

[pulsar pebble]

Its going to be goofy town in 2 or 3 days. Going to be playing battlefield realism mode in the dungeon lol

[pearl kernel]

How are we liking the update? Is everyone stuck in grey gear getting one shot by skeletons crying “I’m getting out geared”, or are people good enough at the game to extract now?

[knotty kernel]

There is +5 I have seen it

[tardy sandal]

More like we extract with 100 gold of sellables and buy a full set of +4 weapon damage greens with it from these shopkeepers

[rapid vapor]

It seems like they expect special chests to help alleviate gear, but they didn't take into account the fact that most of those chests are almost always locked, and in my experience at least, lockpicks tend to be scarce

[errant vector]

No wonder the community can't stop shitting on you lol

[pearl kernel]

That’s good tho, easier access to loot is great

[knotty kernel]

I am convinced there is a permanant underclass of players in this game, that can only extract 1 out of 5 games, and are stuck in greys.

[thin quarry]

Nah, it's have grey gear fresh start with players that are level 10 steam rolling the lobbies with there +10 phys damage and 12+ all attributes.

[kind osprey]

awful, remove +3 all att, remove these ridiculous +5 weapon damage rolls

[weak kernel]

The game has WAY to much gear readily available… it should be severely slowed down, I think only good gear should come from HR and the gold chests/bosses/ mini bosses…. Literally fully kitted day 1/2 of wipe one and 2 shotting ppl is bs

[tardy sandal]

So any class running all weapon damage allowing them to one shot you after only spending like 150g on their kit is fine..?

[real mantle]

fix the dc when you get in a game @zinc sparrow @Luci please man i love this game when i get off to work it helps me get away from my wife

[pearl kernel]

I agree +all is bad for sure, weapon damage rolls not as much since base damage if all weapons got massively reduced. +5 only rolls on weapons right?

[knotty kernel]

Wouldn't this issue best be solved by encouraging the good gear to go HR, or finding some other way to segment the geared players from non geared.

[coral raptor]

150g... thats like one good extract

[pulsar pebble]

And +3 on every other slot so still enough to be a 1 click on any class in the game lol

[weak kernel]

Agreed, taking a break from dad till things are slowed down drastically.. might as well give players 200-250 base health so there is actually fights

[pearl kernel]

I’ve watched every good player that’s live and all of them are geared now, I haven’t seen a single one shot / 1 click. How come Reddit can do it but the best players in the game can’t?

[tardy sandal]

Zero incentive to do hr, hr infested with pvp sweat gods, colosseum map with rangers, nightmare mobs being way more stronger then elites, high fee cost, and not enough portals, AND horrible loot

[kind osprey]

but wasn't the point to lower TTKs to slow down the game pace? +5 wep damage is gonna be like pre-patch #1 for those guys

[knotty kernel]

I agree there is no incentive to do HR , maybe we should increase that incentive.

[pearl kernel]

100% agreed, no zero gear players should have to deal with geared players

[river vine]

high roller is more for pvp anyways

[thin quarry]

The game was in it's all time best yesterday and the day before.
Then they reverted some of the changes after 48 hours. 48 HOURS. How can you dictate what needs to be reverted after that time. And now its back to full kits covered in true phys and clerics healing their barbs and fighters.

@knotty kernel Yeah it would be amazing, I have a great video project im working on for this game that would hopefully recieve some good criticism and possibly pick at the communities brain to see if they'd like it or not.

[tardy sandal]

The devs have zero idea on how to do that despite the fact they literally did it when the game came out of play tests and became buyable, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS MAKE PURPLES ONLY APPEAR IN HIGH ROLLER AND HELL AND MAKE BLUES APPEAR RARELY IN NORMALS

[pearl kernel]

That’s not good tho, it means it’s really hard to gear up for high roller and thus it’s harder to enter it

[worthy cradle]

Nah, I'll just buy the purples in trade then, and have fun in normals. Trade is still the biggest problem the game has

[thin quarry]

I think a great nerf to cleric would be the healing, acting more like how a potion does. You can stack it sure, like how old school potions used to be.
@tardy sandal Im actually so happy someone else had that idea, making me think people would take more kindly to what idea I have.

[tardy sandal]

Purples would be way more rare and cost a lot more though, if you did get a purple set it would probably not have good stats

[knotty kernel]

Personally I think the easiest answer is just restrict good gear to HR. Just make it so you can't enter normals with any item higher than green quality. It will create a buffer for lower skilled and geared players and cap out just how fucked they can get by geared players.

[worthy cradle]

And you think the purples you find in HR would?
what is this logic?

[tardy sandal]

When they use to have purples only appear in hr and hell, purples appeared only like every twenty messages in the trade chat and they went for hundreds of gold

[worthy cradle]

Ok. I make 100s of gold normally in a run in normals. ~130 minimum

[pulsar pebble]

Unless your farming the leaderboard i have no ide why youd go HR right now. Im expecting it to be more dead then last wipe. Just run normals. Farm gold. Buy whatever you want. We were finding solid roll purples in regular hell.

[tardy sandal]

So you spend 2-3 runs worth of gold on a single piece of equipment that may not have the best stats and if you did find something with good stats that would take more like 4-6 runs worth of gold

[worthy cradle]

Here's the optimal gameplay loop for an above-average IQ non-streamer:

1. Get gold, and the occasional good item in normals
2. Spend 20 minutes in boring trade chat, since that's still the fastest way to get decent stuff
3. Go back to normals & crush pvp now for more gold
4. Die when you run into players who have more time for this cycle

[pulsar pebble]

Lol coward (they know who they are)

[stiff lion]

Just so you guys know if you're having problems with your VOIP working and have voicemod installed you need to go to devices and disable it. That fixed my voip issue of 2 weeks.

[plush frost]

Why can’t we all just be happy. Atleast they update the game often

[pearl kernel]

Try finding loot in the dungeon instead! It’s much more rewarding and fun imo

[tardy sandal]

My routine is farm cave troll, camp storm, escape through inbuilt exit. Dunno if farming cave troll is more profitable then group pvp tho

[earnest scaffold]

It is funny because the low level 1-15 used to be full of trash geared players with the occasional cape or purple item. Now it is just the same as late game with level 5-15 players that extracted once having access to +all gear and +weapon damage stacks

[worthy cradle]

You trolling?

[ebon gulch]

save dark n darker https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/473584/add-a-downvote-option

[pearl kernel]

That’s just how I play

[pulsar pebble]

Wait until his feelings get hurt and you get a discord warning over it.

[worthy cradle]

Who?

[thin quarry]

The game would feel absolutely amazing if the gear was more rare. The fights wouldn't be over in 2 hits and would feel more gritty and brutal.

Right off the bat this is how I see it would be decent maybe not great but a better start to what they have.

Goblin Caves: Grey, white, (rare green gear)
Goblin Caves HR: Grey, White, Green, (rare blue gear)

Crypt: White, Green, (Uncommon Blue from mini boss)
Inferno Crypt: White, Green, Blue (Purple from boss)
Crypt HR: White, Green, (Common Blue from mini boss)
Crypt HR Inferno: White, Green, Blue, (Common Purple from mini boss) (Legendary and Unique from boss only)

Ruins: White, Green, (Uncommon Blue from mini boss)

And of course since some are solo players I genuienly think a solo's mode for crypt and ruin should be a thing. Now of course HR nah either you 1v3 or you get a team.

Thoughts? I think it's a great start but I'm sure the whining few are going to groan how it would be too hard and not fun that they can't just pvp all day instead.

@tardy sandal @knotty kernel

I think if they add more levels to ruins then just copy over what Crypt has.

[pulsar pebble]

Mendos. Completely unmoderated channel for months. Wardens let filth go wild in here all day. Text gets a bit heated for him and i get a notification. I doubt some warden just popped his head in here and took offence to my minor dig out of the blue.

[median grail]

Oh damn, I reallly liked the lanterns with movespeed

[worthy cradle]

Thousands of players. I'll just find that purple item in trade

[runic halo]

Do higher lvls get you extra stats?

[tardy sandal]

Legendary should be rewarded from normal bossing while purples are just very rare to find only in lions chests and mini bosses in hell. Cave troll should also have a small chance to drop purples and hr cave troll small chance to drop legendaries

[thin quarry]

Yeah I forgot about cave troll honestly. I'd be totally down for that instead. Also @worthy cradle If this change was made you'd be paying hundreds in gold for one purple.

[worthy cradle]

You already pay hundreds for a decent purple item, no?
I'm not buying the +1.5% Item equip speed rolls

[thin quarry]

I get what you're saying, but if the changes to maps loot pool was changed it would ultimately make it harder to find actual good purple gear because people would rather hoard it and use it.

[tardy sandal]

Well its because its a decent purple, if purples were as scarce as they were when the game first officially became buyable people would pay 100s for a purple even if it had item equip speed

[worthy cradle]

You're advocating for removal / severe nerf of trade. You just don't know it yet

[knotty kernel]

Im not fully against this, making loot rare isn't bad, but I think it would lead to more disparity.

[rapid vapor]

Maybe a hot take, but maybe loot needs to be toned down for normals and hell, and hr loot turned up. Think green at best in hell, and blue+ in hr

[knotty kernel]

prob a good Idea, we should encourage people to go to HR and inferno

[tardy sandal]

Okay now thats a little to extreme, blues in hell is fine, that would limit the enchantment aspect of gear until you managed to go high roller

[earnest scaffold]

Great idea. Let the HR sweats come to lowroller and have gear that is absolutely impossible to even get in lowroller

[tardy sandal]

I think purples should spawn in hell but just rarely and only from minibosses and fancy chests while keeping the boss drops the same, should also remove purples from normal entirely

[earnest scaffold]

That wouldn't ever backfire, would it? Shame if bored HR folks had nothing better to do than steamroll normal lobbies because there is no semblance of balance or even a goal in the game.

[glad tree]

yea my games been running shitty

[thin quarry]

Now we tackled the loot rarity spread, lets get into the vendors. Why am I being given gamestop deals for a blue item only to sell it for 8 gold back.
If it's purchased from the vendor sure cut the gold in half and that's what you get back.

HOWEVER, If you come out of a raid with a few green items and blue items and don't want to spend hours on the player market the vendor should be offering more gold.

Grey-White: 10 gold. Max.

Green (no stat): 12 gold.
Green (1 stat): 15 gold.

Blue (2 stats) 20-25 gold.

Purple (3 stats) 30-40 gold depending on the item.

Legendary (4 stats) 60-100 gold depending on the item

Unique (stats) 200+ gold. Minimum.

Now of course for potions and throwables I'm not too sure maybe a few more gold than just 2. But I think this would get the gold economy flowing a bit more, because if it isn't something I can sell or is better than what I'm wearing I rarely pick it up because the player market is just so bad when it comes to selling anything.

[sharp haven]

How much hp does cave troll have 😂

[tardy sandal]

Like 2400

He also has ungodly passive regeneration of like 3 hp per sec

[thin quarry]

I plan to make a post in their voting forum soon I just need to get this video edited and put together, I'd love if you guys had anymore ideas for things that could easily be added to the next wipe patch. @tardy sandal @knotty kernel @rapid vapor

[cyan crane]

is+3 all back

[worthy cradle]

No, just +2all on certain gear pieces

[tardy sandal]

(Actually nerf rangers next patch)

[frank fossil]

anyone else having issues with the circle texture for aoe spells not showing up? i havent been able to figure out how to fix this and none of the recent patches have been any help

[bleak echo]

Rangers have been nerfed

[worthy cradle]

Some idiot

[tardy sandal]

They buffed cooldowns on like 2 of his skills and very slightly nerfed quick shot

[cyan crane]

wait there's +5weap dmg?

[tall pasture]

not even. ranger can get +6 damage +3 strength now. we just took 10 steps backwards in balancing the game

[hollow obsidian]

I've uninstalled, deleted all the files, and reinstalled this fucking game like 7 times and it doesn't fucking launch past the log in screen. I played hundreds of hours before this recent update

[bleak echo]

Yeah this update was stupid, before this rangers damage wasn’t bad at all

[cyan crane]

so what's added, what attributes give +3 +4 +5 +6

[tardy sandal]

The new +3 all attributes are now the +14 move speed occultist boots

[worthy cradle]

Yes. Rarity doesn't matter, again.

[tall pasture]

its not even rangers, its barb. heavy leather pieces are giving as much armor as plate and strength. barb can get 250 health and 50% pdr easily. like buffball wasnt op enough already and they make barb immune to knock back. where is there heads at???

[cyan crane]

someone told me it's +2 all but there's +3 all again?

[hollow obsidian]

idk sounds like a skill issue

[tardy sandal]

No no no, was using +3 all as an example as they were unobtainable last playtest like how the 14 move speed occultist boots are now

[cyan crane]

ah alright, how can we get 14 move speed occultist

[rapid vapor]

Buying them from other players at very high prices

[cunning summit]

get rid of sprint

[pulsar pebble]

From vendor and normal runs i had 124 hp with 70% damage reduction on a fighter. +1 all head to toe with + weap dmg in a few slots. We ran 3s for 3 hours, didnt wipe once. My stash is full of gold and backup gear. 1 night.

[tardy sandal]

I managed to get a pair from cave troll before they removed their obtainability, purple occultists with a bunch of magic damage on it

[delicate solar]

If adding 50% to cooldown, removing 1/3 dmg (2 arrows instead of 3), lowering bow dmg and buffing armor is "very slightly nerfed", then it seems like a math problem )). I agree we seem to step back a lil from that though. But it wasn't "very slightly" in any way.

[south vigil]

Warlocks need to be adjusted

[hollow obsidian]

Warlocks need to not sound like they just set off a nuclear bomb imo

[tardy sandal]

Dunno how buffing armor and lowering bow damage along with every other weapon damage in the game counts as quick shot being nerfed, also recurve shoots 3 arrows still on quickshot

[abstract fog]

yes

[delicate solar]

Well, agreed, I might've dumped too much in one heap, but whatever, even singled out +50% cooldown is already not really "very slightly nerfed".

[tardy sandal]

True, but that doesn’t really fix the burst damage problem it caused

[abstract fog]

why did ironmace walk back sweeping gear changes in literally 24 hours and not only restore the previous gear issues that they were aware of (+2/+3 all attributes gear), but buffed stats even more than before

[raw warren]

Has anyone here found the formula to calculate Block stagger? I know it's dependent on the Impact Power and Impact Resistance, but I kinda need number to do some math

[sleek geyser]

can we buff wizard by giving him a grey spellbook and crystal sword to start magic staff sucks so hard

[subtle heart]

I love how Ironmace totally tanked the economy with these Chest buffs

[sweet jay]

ive lost all sight of what the end goal with this game is anymore

[median grail]

stats got rolled back on items?

[tardy sandal]

Its the shop keepers not the chests, they sell overpowered stats on items for like 40 gold

[abstract fog]

yup, and they juiced stats even more than before...like +5 magical power on items now lol

[subtle heart]

you can be totally kitted out in 2 runs now, a 3 stack all could be kitted in 2 hell runs. Ridiculous lmao. Items are worth nothing now. every Lion head is 2 blues and 50% of the time a purple.

[median grail]

damn bro, it's been just a day and we back at square -1

[jovial goblet]

is it possible for the new gold bags to be sold in the market?

[vestal silo]

damn clarity potions are really saturated. Dont think they are worth picking up to sel anymore could sell them for 10 ea easily before

[sweet jay]

Region lock/Auction House/Revert Stats/Nerf vendors/Nerf Top end affixes/Wipe - only solution

[sudden aspen]

Am i the only one that's loving the gear state of the game rn? These merchants are selling some absolutely great stuff that's making it possible to compete against already fully geared playres. Love this shit rn

[indigo cobalt]

Going to greatest patch to even worse state than before thanks to streamers yayyyy

[hard ocean]

Game is crazy, get wiped, load up trio, base kit go clear hell, then we all have blues and capes and some purples, every single run is gigachad juicer gear and the economy is gone from the game

[raw warren]

Why thanks to streamer?

[hard ocean]

These changes make geared fighter borderline impossible to kill, they can also stack magic resist quite easily and get 30 all stats with reasonable effort

[indigo cobalt]

These changes only please them

[vestal silo]

weapon dmg and +all stats need to get reverted

[sleek geyser]

as a wizard i hit 4 fireballs at a fighter and he just surivived and one tap me

[spiral kernel]

Does Magical Healing stack with Bard's rest heal?

[raw warren]

In what ways?

[sudden aspen]

well this has always been a problem but the solution is also the same. I am still absolutely obliterating lobsters with semi geared warlock / wiz in hr

[sonic lagoon]

the balancing in this game sucks ass. they had 1 good patch for 1 fucking day and ruined it

[fading seal]

hey how do you get gold and why is it so expensive?

[sweet jay]

Everything is literally just a gear check now

[sudden aspen]

ruins

[indigo cobalt]

Revert rogue nerf + absurd scaling. Streamers with title like DND IS DEAD CUZ OF DEVS wasn’t rare. While most of the community was glad of last patch

[sleek geyser]

just play ranger/warlock/fighter and every lobby is free gold

[toxic pivot]

swear to god the portals in goblin caves are broken

[fading seal]

oh sorry i meant like gold ingots the ones you need to craft weapons with lol

[raw warren]

Yeah but like, why does the rogue nerf displeased them, balancing is nice no? And not every single streamer is a Rogue player too

[sonic lagoon]

+1 damage per gear and more on higher rarity felt balanced for all of 2 seconds

[indigo cobalt]

I’m talking about reverting the nerf. Some main rogues streamers were extremely salty to the point to incentize to play dnd’s copy

[hasty valley]

skill or outplaying has no effect? lol, some of you guys are clueless about this game.

[sweet jay]

Cope

[raw warren]

I mean, you can't call getting ambushed and one shoted by a rogue a skill issue no?

[sonic lagoon]

people who just quote twitch chat like it's an argument have no business reproducing

[rapid vapor]

The problem with the rogue nerf was it went a little too far, especially with nerfing base damage. They've walked back some of the nerfs in the latest hotfix, but idk if they were the right ones to walk back tbh

[hasty valley]

All i see is that minority loud mouths can never be pleased. Maybe learn to play the game better instead of crying in a public discord after every patch in an EARLY ACCESS game👍

[worthy cradle]

They are selling a product for money. Buyers get to complain.

[raw warren]

I think the issue is not really the Rogue buff again, it's more like reverting the rogue nerf and the gear changes at the same times no? Each of them already have some issues, but combined it exagerate them even more

[sonic lagoon]

typically when you nerf a class/playstyle/thing you nerf one thing at a time, not every fucking thing at a time. Now they're buffing every thing at a time. In addition to adding +3 weapon damage rolls again. Fucking stupid

[hasty valley]

you can complain, which does nothing, or deal with the current state of the game and get better at it. ur call

[vestal silo]

can someone explain why the doublet gets will as a base stat? Its for figther, rogue and ranger. Will gives a slight magic defense and maybe rogues can benefit a litle bit from the will, but it doesnt really make sense as all of those are mainly physical damage dealers.

[worthy cradle]

You're sitting in the "game-discussion" channel. Know your place, literally

[sweet jay]

It just amazes me how much people will take grueling wise and still say just hang in there its EA lol

[sonic lagoon]

grueling wise?

[vivid pendant]

SHIT with all this complaining, why hasn't greed is good's player count gone over 5k yet?

[vestal silo]

cuz its a cheap copy

[indigo cobalt]

because it is also thrash

[vivid pendant]

yet right now there's 15k in dungeon ~10k lobby at 4:19AM EST this is trash eh

[sonic lagoon]

Say what you want about GiG(trash servers, hackers, shit ai), but the defensive scaling in GiG has this game taking it in the ass sidewase

[sweet jay]

@sonic lagoon You think the dupe day 1 of a major patch after a wipe is just EA

[sonic lagoon]

Sorry I'm not following. What?

[vivid pendant]

do you guys ever play the game or spend most of the time reading discord chat for people to agree/disagree with?

[sleek geyser]

the reason this game is trash is because after 2 days of the wipe i get my first chance to play as a naked wizard and i literally cant kill anyone because they have puurple +3All in my GC and they are teaming

[sonic lagoon]

rarity over rolls was nice for like 2 seconds

[dry shuttle]

how do you get the currency for jack-o-lantern shop?

[sweet jay]

If this patch is gonna lean toward a potential SBMM im out.

[vivid pendant]

and you're STILL in GC

[rapid vapor]

Well my pc died and is still getting fixed, so this and twitch streams are the only way I can get my fix

[wanton hinge]

man why can warlocks heal off their own hydra

[hard ocean]

Ya

[raw warren]

I do play, mostly joined the discord to get some number about blocking tho

[vernal depot]

The latest change just made gear even more important now, right?

[sweet jay]

@vernal depot Yes and no.

[sonic lagoon]

I think them healing half a health bar off of cursing other players is more of an issue

[hallow lance]

🇸 🇦 🇳 🇵 🇦 🇴 🇱 🇴 🇲 🇪 🇹 🇦

[indigo cobalt]

enjoy having + 5 weapon damage

[hasty valley]

it feels like some die to AI or suck at pvp and come here to release their anger whilst some of us have stuck with the game since last year and understand that making a good game takes time.

[wanton hinge]

true magical healing is terrifying with the more powerful spells

[vernal depot]

Sounds like I can just get gear diffed by a ranger or barb and have very little to do. Great.

[sleek geyser]

i have to sit half my game because wizard has to meditate so i have lots of Free afk time to type/read and play

[sonic lagoon]

I'm super disappointed with this hotfix. We had nice rarity-based caps to important rolls like weapon damage that had their caps INCREASE with rarity, making rarity IMPORTANT. now we're seeing +3 weapon damage GREENS again and the game is the same as before.

[frosty island]

The reduced sound when we crouchwalk should only had been applied for rogues not across the board So other classes is also rogues now? The volume of footsteps that occur when walking crouched has been slightly reduced. @zinc sparrow

[vernal depot]

Agreed. Huge step back. I don't know what they're thinking.

[hallow lance]

It feels like some people farm all their gear on low pop servers then bring all that gear into high pop servers because they suck at the game and can't win without exploiting. 🇸 🇦 🇳 🇵 🇦 🇴 🇱 🇴 🇲 🇪 🇹 🇦

[shut temple]

wtf is "it ended abruptly" 5th time it happens in hr goboo

[worn dove]

dont worry next wipe will be here soon

[gritty verge]

anyone elses game completely messed up? cant see traders, perks, gathering hall, nothing

[sudden aspen]

The people complaining about gear rn are so bad. I'm on a lvl9 ranger with several capes, purple recurves, and a full kit on atm. 40% which I found off of royal coffins, lions heads, and hell runs; the other 60% is from the merchants. Yall are just BAD if you're unable to get the gold to buy gear from merchants, seriously.

[sonic lagoon]

pick or it didn't happen, asswipe.

[sudden aspen]

Sure, let me log in

[candid torrent]

RETURN MY MONEY!

[vernal depot]

People are crying because so much gear can be absolutely busted and a lot of fights will be stat diffs instead of skill diffs.

[indigo cobalt]

This is bad for overall TTK, balancing and gear variety. Nothing to do with skill

[sweet jay]

this 👍

[hallow lance]

🇸 🇦 🇳 🇵 🇦 🇴 🇱 🇴 🇲 🇪 🇹 🇦

[broken reef]

@cerulean delta

[sudden aspen]

I understand the argument but why exactly are people being gear diffed if its so easy to get it atm? You can literally build a full kit in like 3 runs

[hasty valley]

so youre saying its impossible to get good gear? might be something do with your gameplay?

[sweet jay]

Its the amount of gear already in the game. Makes no sense 2 days into a wipe EVERYONE, LITERALLY EVERYONE. is in max stats

[sleek geyser]

^ now stack that with how weak wizard is early game and good luck extracting without being a rat

[vagrant path]

It makes plenty of sense, it's called the gud git richer

[hasty valley]

no theyre not. majority is in the same boat who doesnt have bis gear. you're clueless and overreacting.

[vivid pendant]

agreed

[raw warren]

The issue stated is more like how big stats are now findable on low gear, and with how high those stats can get, making one shot build pretty easy to obtain

[night oasis]

error 42?

[median grail]

I just wish we would move away from gear and focus more on gameplay elements. just keep the gear simple nothing too wild unless it's a unique item or something really high end.

[vagrant path]

It's like they can't look at the game and figure out if they want people to be able to one shot or not. I have no idea what their vision is for the game at this point

[hasty valley]

same for everyone.

[rapid vapor]

Pretty sure a lot of people are upset because players agreed with the devs, everyone wanted to slow the game down and have higher ttk. We had it for a day and now we're immediately back into one shot meta

[raw warren]

Yeah and that's an issue, a one shot fight is not really fun tbh, like Khajiit said, everyone wanted the game to slow down

[sweet jay]

Cant tell if this is poor bait or? just contradicted yourself within 2 post

[sleek geyser]

warlock can one shot wizard with a grey staff and BOC

[sonic lagoon]

this game had decent gear balance for one day

[hasty valley]

im not disagreeing with that but i believe in the devs and patiently wait for whats to come instead of crying in a public discord because of my own flaws.

[sleek dagger]

how do you get candycorn?

[cunning hamlet]

I found some in a random chest

[sleek geyser]

i just want every developer to stop developing and force lock themselves into Goblin cave as grey wizards only for 72 hours and tell me if they had fun

[rapid vapor]

Its not crying to discuss and give feedback in the game-discussion channel of the game you're talking about. It's not like the devs don't listen to the community.

[raw warren]

It's not really crying about their flaws, more like discussing about the fact the devs are contradicting themselves on wanting to make a slower meta, and how the current gear balance is kinda wack

[candid sable]

any loot container including mobs

[vagrant path]

This is the game discussion channel, I don't know what you expect besides having input on the state of the game including complaints

[hasty valley]

discussing in civilized manner is good but some nutjobs generalizing things are way overreacting

[vivid pendant]

ouch how much you spending on the fix?

[sweet jay]

Exactly, look all im saying is the gear made sense day 1 but was way too obtainable. Now they bring 1 shot meta back after a DUPE. So its back to pre wipe status within 48 hours

[raw warren]

Like you? Stating that everyone here is crying because they need to get better you mean? Kinda the perfect example of generalizing things

[sudden aspen]

Wizard is one of the most snowball heavy classes so although this is true, just one white spellbook will change the state of your runs

[rapid vapor]

The part was under warranty so free, but i had to spend $260 on shipping because i had to ship the whole pc

[hasty valley]

when did i use the term everyone? i used terms like small minority loudmouths 👍

[exotic meteor]

I can't believe they reverted gear mods back. I praised Ironmace for balancing those mods in a actually solid way. This was like 9/10 change. And the next fucking day you revert it, i've never been more disappointed and that says a lot, because i've been disappointed waaay to many times already. And to add oil to the fire, the revert isn't to the pre-patch state which was like 5/10 bad, nooo, it's to the even earlier state that was like 2/10 with all the stupid +3all and absurd amounts of added damage. And to make things even worse, you are STILL not able to properly wipe gear. Every single change of yours is creating "legacy gear" that is polluting entire "season" which is absolutely pathetic.

[sonic lagoon]

they could've at least run it a week? why did my favorite patch last only a day 😢

[vivid pendant]

it gets annoying when people always say that they're just "discussing game" but they are here over exaggerating their personal experience, usually in the form of dying to an "OP" class
@rapid vapor god damn, what part? lol

[sleek geyser]

not when every fighter comes in with 100 MR now thanks to changes and purple crossbow that one shots you. I had a fighter straight up tank 4 fireballs today direct impact too

[lyric pagoda]

Is the mimic tongue part of some crafting recipes ? I don't find any with it and I want to be sure

[raw warren]

Eh it's true, my bad

[rapid vapor]

The aio pump died which lead the to cpu overheating and having some minor damage

[sweet jay]

i know i know. End game literally made sense after the patch. All they had to do was slow gear acquisation down day 1 of this patch and boom the formula was good.

[pulsar pebble]

Whats most baffling is dps is getting cranked through the roof and hp scaling is at like playtest 3 level. Stack strength. Stack 1% hp bonus gear. Nothing compared to the amount of damage being put out. We got 1-2 shot dps with the same hp pool from when items didnt even have stats. If they wanted to inflate gear stats, hp pools should of gone up as well

[hasty valley]

all good

[sonic lagoon]

10 armor vs +3 weapon damage. GUESS which is stronger. Absolute bullshit

[sleek geyser]

I have a really strange idea what if we assigned an item level to every item in the game and make dungeons que based on item level. like grey items would be 1 white 2 green 3 blue 4 purple 5 and separate the que layers into 3 categories of under 10, 10-25, and 26+

[sonic lagoon]

for a game that says they don't want fast-paced gameplay, they sure as hell fucking enable it. 😦

[sweet jay]

They also killed crafting within day 1 patch and buried it after this recent patch

[pulsar pebble]

Doesnt work. Easily abused. Splits playerbase. Its been done in other games, never does what you hope it would

[vivid pendant]

no man, just no, lol

[sleek geyser]

well how do you expect new players to ever get a chance to even enjoy the game? if you que GC instantly half the lobby is unkillable chads with max stats

[vagrant path]

Holy shit, people actually vote no to having an auction house, delusional lmao

[cunning hamlet]

The circle kills my enjoyment at times I will clear a room only for me to be pushed away from the loot

[sonic lagoon]

half is an exxagerration. In my experience there's like a 50% - 30% chance of one chad

[pulsar pebble]

By giving a purpose to more difficult content. Drawing players to advancement. Which isnt happening right now because no quest system. No talent trees. And the gear balance is half baked.

[vivid pendant]

easy, they can remove solo queue
solo queue was exactly what so many people were begging for... now they can't stop complaining about the experience

[sweet jay]

@vagrant path Its the people that dont want the trading system to actually be good. so that they can rwt. (and ofc some delusional peeps)

[pulsar pebble]

Ironically people assumed solo mode would be easy mode. But IM said even back then that goblin caves was solo mode, noy easy mode. People just assumed 1s would be easier then 3s

[sudden aspen]

People say this but forget that there's second wind and I can bet some money that the dude had a cleric right?

[vivid pendant]

now look at how people abuse the solo queue system

[sleek geyser]

no solo GC he just had the rugged boots and regal gambeson he managed to get one bandage off and his second wind

[lyric pagoda]

=>>> What is the purpose of the mimic tongue ???

[pseudo lance]

Its rare though and fireball is still very op

[grizzled adder]

yo I buy lockpicks 30ea if someone has

[pulsar pebble]

The amusing part is 7 players in gc. Theres like 6 portals. Pvp could be entirely optional. Theres actually no need to run anyone down. Tells you alot about player nature. People go GC to pvp just as much as gear up/farm gold

[safe thistle]

Fix warlock leaching form hydra endlessly and efforlessly PLease!

[late vale]

In gc you don't even have to fight

[sudden aspen]

Welp I guess it just depends on the timing of everything, if he had enough time to get his second wind all the way up that explains 3 tanks, the MR shoudl allow for 1 or two more. This seems fine imo, can't be upset that we wizard mains aren't two shotting every fighter anymore.

[pulsar pebble]

When i run wizard on GC, charging a chain lightning and voiping to warn the person ill do it, causes them to not open that door like 60% of the time. Lol

[sudden aspen]

With more MR comes less PDR so that will figure itself out, maybe you're not two shotting fighters anymore but your teammates won't need 18 physical attacks to kill them anymore

[late vale]

There are 7 exits if you count the guaranteed one, also it's so deserted that i see either 1 or 2 People a match since everyone just insta extracts

[pulsar pebble]

I tanked 3 fighters in a corner today in a set of 70% dmg reduction. Lived long enough for my team to bail me out

[late vale]

And then you see a warlock with a blue staff and BoC and then you shit yourself

[cosmic wasp]

pdr as a stat is so retarded

[lyric pagoda]

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER. Should I sell it or keep it ? Is it part of a craft ?

[vivid pendant]

yea, imo devs should just remove solo queue, perhaps make a separate portal from crypts or ruins to GC

[remote quarry]

i thought they were going to wipe the characters? i still mine and its levels

[pulsar pebble]

Eh. Pdr makes sense, it just lacks alot of counters. Them adding pen damage to maces and ranged was nice. Likewise you should be able to build for magic resist as any class. Devs keep adding +3 all, and +200 dmg. Where is the magic resist affixes in quantities enough to matter. 5 magic resist on a shield isnt doing anything for me lol

[compact basin]

+3 all is back?

[unkempt bane]

yup and base stats on gear also +5 wep damage on gear

[raw warren]

Eat it

[pulsar pebble]

Yea but +2 is the more common version. Ive only seen 2 +3s tonight. One was "legendary" quality. Other was purple.

[compact basin]

thanks for the info

[sweet jay]

The PDR for plate users is unbalanced compared to non-plate users

[lyric pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/office-michael-scott-thank-you-gif-5278681

[vestal silo]

fckung vertiocal portals

[pulsar pebble]

Enjoy the game while you can. Your able to stack like 30 bonus damage now. By this time tommorow its going to be hell on earth

[hallow lance]

🇸 🇦 🇳 🇵 🇦 🇴 🇱 🇴 🇲 🇪 🇹 🇦

[delicate solar]

What item did you see it on?

[sweet jay]

lol

[carmine blaze]

is there a goblin cave map with no cave troll? cant find it anywhere

[compact basin]

no

[pulsar pebble]

Was an arming sword and mask. It was shadow mask. So im curious if that one was true +3 or if its +2 AND the base +1 that piece always has

[delicate solar]

Did you ever see +2/+3 all on any item besides a Shadow Mask?

[pulsar pebble]

Yes. On the chest piece my toon has on now +2 forsure all over. Merchants selling it too. The +3 only twice.

[vivid pendant]

none of my merchants are selling +2 all, cheap bastards

[loud oasis]

I have now compiled a fighter build with +30 wep damage and 230 health. I am unstoppable

[frozen sundial]

Screenshot or cap

[pulsar pebble]

You has become death. As the kids say.

@vivid pendant mine had a GREEN longsword with +2 all. I was like bruh. Whyyyyh

[loud oasis]

Bro, do the math, +5 wep damage on all pieces + other rolls

[mortal valley]

Why is fighter designed to be easy and have a high quality of life while other classes are designed to be hard and have low quality of life?

[vivid pendant]

looool

[rancid scarab]

does physical power work on a bow

[pulsar pebble]

The +30 dmg is ironically easier to get then the 240 hp part

[sweet jay]

the rogue buffs looked ok, then you realized what stats were brought back Seriously. Region lock/Auction House/Revert Stats/Nerf vendors/Nerf Top end affixes/fix any issues/Wipe

[frozen sundial]

O you meant theoretical. Then yea, that’s pretty scary XD

[loud oasis]

Yes, I have 5 out of the 7 pieces I need tho

[pulsar pebble]

Im personally most excited for the longbow ranger sniper who hits me in the face for 160 damage in a single shot.

[toxic pivot]

w

[frozen sundial]

Nah, it’s the crossbow’s time to shine.

[loud oasis]

Back to my rogue until the homies get on, this patch is ridiculous lmao. Its fun as shit 2 hitting goblins with 150g worth of gear

[pulsar pebble]

Bro. I got so many windlass xbox kills on my.fighter today. Was a bad day to be charging up a fireball if i was near

[frozen sundial]

Yea, crossbows are doing work right now.

[fading seal]

hand crossbow superior

[lament fox]

This Patch is so bad ty for ruinning the best game

[vivid pendant]

buy the windlass xbox edition now and get your free copy of dark and darker!!!!

[pulsar pebble]

[delicate solar]

Well, I guess here I can hardly defend IronMace at all. Wiping +all to return them immediately really is a very strange decision. Maybe it's just that I don't have all the info they had while making it... Well, at least now it's available to everyone and not for thousands of gold. Let's see how that'll plays out, but ngl it looks dangerous for the current game state.

[pulsar pebble]

Yea we all a bit confused. It would actually be fine if they had the ability to nerf gear in stashes. Would prevent legacy items from remaining

[timid blaze]

game crashed says please restart for my whole group anyone else???

[cosmic wasp]

theyre changing stats to test the game

[opaque adder]

hr run just died, had to restart launcher

[vivid pendant]

how patch bad? greed is good???

[urban frigate]

Guys how does Rolls-Royce look like now?

[vivid pendant]

i actually seen a rolls suv in my town, like what

[delicate solar]

Actually that might be the answer. Might be they did find a way and that's why they are going bold. I heard reports that they were able to update some ppl's lanterns in stash to zero speed. But also some ppl say it's not everywhere.

[main raven]

I've been saying this even before the wipe

[pulsar pebble]

Would be nice. But we had a legacy torch that said 0 speed in stash but had 6 speed when in raid.

[spare glen]

Delete +50 all attribute and +30 wep stacking, so bad for the game previous gear patch was good

[vivid pendant]

They could adjust the stats on items in our stash, but perhaps to see how it gets used in the market
i think a lot of people just tend to hoard legacy items if they are "BiS"

[abstract fog]

it really doesn't make sense to me why they'd go back to the gear stats like this, it's actually even worse now lmao

[clever bear]

how long will the jack o lantern merch stay ?

[drifting hinge]

Always I hope 😄

[vivid pendant]

until it's time to change over to candy canes instead of candy corn

[quiet beacon]

@summer zinc get rejected son

[abstract fog]

i gotta assume jack o latern will be for entirety of october...so prob this entire wipe cycle

[delicate solar]

LOL )). Well, they do have a lot of pressure on them, and people tend to take hasty actions and make not the smartest decisions under it. And anyway, even if you have a way to reroll legacy items I doubt it would be fun for players to find their hard earned gear much weaker, it's a risky play all over. I guess just need to wait and see.

[quiet beacon]

lol nobody believes your word vs mine, sorry

[vivid pendant]

people are comparing league to dark and darker? O_O

[dull shale]

they lowered damage and then buffed the shit out of stats on gear, it makes no sense at all. They literally made geared players stronger.

[sweet jay]

imagine investing time into crafting just to get one shot by greens

[delicate solar]

Well, they also made gear much more available.

[bleak lodge]

invincibility shield after killing troll so people cant kill me immediately after i kill the boss? thoughts?

[vivid pendant]

We also realized that although the changes to the Merchants had the intended effect of reducing the stress of gearing up, we may have made it a little too easy, thus dis-incentivizing the value of loot more than we wanted. In order to put more value into the higher grades of loot we have decided to revert to the more dynamic random modifiers from before EA Patch #1. We have also slightly tuned these modifiers so some of the more desirable stats are even better than before. We have also removed the epic items from the Merchants so that the higher grade items are even more valuable. However as an alternate means to still attain some of these high grade items outside the dungeons, we have reintroduced Jack O Lantern. Finally, we want to motivate players to still obtain these loots from inside the dungeons and have made the SubBosses and special chests as special POIs that will always drop guaranteed higher quality loot.

[tame mauve]

Fire the balancing department. Hello 1shots with new crazy items.

[mint oasis]

day 1 patch was AWESOME and now they ruined it again lol

[dull shale]

the balance department is a circle jerk of twitch streamers lmao

[cloud oar]

I for the life of me havent been able to extract consistently, since I couldnt play for 2 days now every lobby I go into has someone rocking all blues and I cannot avoid a fight with that person or win one cause they are way faster and way stronger

[vivid pendant]

are you playing in gc only...?

[cunning summit]

solo teamers are aids

[dull shale]

@cloud oar as a base kit ranger that recently died to a lobster in gc after putting 20 arrows in him I feel your pain

[cloud oar]

I have been playing in all modes and in every mode I encounter people fully geared, I cant run away from them and I cannot fight them since Im running starter gear

[subtle heart]

I can't believe how fast Ive been soooo excited to get home and play, and how fast that goes away with tone deaf change reverting.

[vivid pendant]

just how it be some times, i haven't escaped in a few runs either playing solo barb in crypts

[cloud oar]

Indeed, i thought the changes would make the game better but I feel more hopeless than ever rn

[sweet jay]

i feel like im gonna wake up in a day or two and see this game at the lowest player count i've ever seen

[dull shale]

I want to know who thought we should shove fresh kit players into hr gc. you get stuck in a spawn that is outside the first circle and you basically spend your entire game clearing to stay inside swarm

[obsidian pine]

hey does anyone know where to get firefly abdomens?

[cloud oar]

I was in a match just now where that happened and dear god, having to go through dozens of mobs just to get to the circle without having time to loot a couple of chests is so annoying

[pallid vine]

ranger so ass now holy

[vivid pendant]

there's 13k dungeon 10k lobby at 5:30am EST.....

[delicate solar]

Well, that's just a different take for "GAME DEAD" sentiment, that's been here pretty much always )). But yeah, gamers count now is lower than it should be.

[novel plover]

deport all clerics

[timber eagle]

I thought the new shop refreshed every 30 minutes is that not true?

[dull shale]

thats the entire playerbase worldwide bro

[bleak echo]

Ironmace actually bottled it because all the streamers where crying they didn’t have an easy time with BIS they reverted changes

[vivid pendant]

right, and that's a shit load more than what they expected for EA
people were in here saying how greed is good is way better, but their player count hasn't broken 5k yet

[novel plover]

i swear this game had more players in the playtest era

[dull shale]

it did, it's struggled since getting pulled down from steam though

[raw talon]

wdym, when it was on steam? ofc it did on steam because it was FREE bro lo

[hallow lance]

🇸 🇦 🇳 🇵 🇦 🇴 🇱 🇴 🇲 🇪 🇹 🇦

[amber grove]

planned teaming is dog, but spontaneous teaming is cool imo

[novel plover]

anyone else struggling with the fps? it drops so much in certain areas no matter the settings

[dull shale]

I know plenty of people who didn't bother with the torrented playtest because they can't be bothered to do something they don't understand

[pallid vine]

the mob buff made ranger dog

[elfin sphinx]

Anyone else think that pickaxes shouldn’t drop when you die?

[raw talon]

I couldn't be bothered to torrent because I couldn't be bothered to torrent when I had other games I could play tbh

[vivid pendant]

[dull shale]

being available on the largest pc marketplace would be a boon for the playercount is my point.

[vivid pendant]

well that's not up to IM atm with the ongoing legal battle in korea, unfortunately
as soon as it does go back on steam... there will be more people in here complaining

[raw talon]

Maybe. Wouldn't add too many players and the game would still lose it's playercount. People leave games fast these days if they realize they're just gonna have to deal with sweatlords that play 18 hours a day. Happened to Marauders, it's happening to hunt (Plus a huge influx of cheaters in hunt) idk about tarkov it's kind of hard to track it's players. People like watching that more than playing it.

[hallow lance]

🇸 🇦 🇳 🇵 🇦 🇴 🇱 🇴 🇲 🇪 🇹 🇦

[unborn hamlet]

These patches have taught me to stop try harding /leaderboard grinding a non competitive early access game and just enjoy grouping with friends and having fun in the dungeons

[karmic cloud]

where do we find candies

[deft lintel]

I learned this years ago lol

[vivid pendant]

in the game

[raw talon]

Rust and Ark already have that hyper addicted playerbase that won't play any other game that's why it's playercount doesn't seem to be budging. I don't keep track of those games though.

[warped drum]

Why keep making legacy items? last wipe it was +3 all and now its occultist boots

[bleak echo]

I can’t believe how much iron mace have bottled it with this patch

[outer badge]

do revive alters recharge?

[hallow lance]

🇸 🇦 🇳 🇵 🇦 🇴 🇱 🇴 🇲 🇪 🇹 🇦

[worthy fog]

Yes

[pallid vine]

this is unplayable

[raw talon]

I can lmao. They don't understand the " waterfall " effect. We're just dumping massive meta changes every few days and it's kind of getting old. This isn't the only game to do this though these days.

[subtle heart]

what did hey ruin havent played this patch

[sweet jay]

@raw talon to be fair Arks a super unique game

[outer badge]

do you know how long it takes to recharge?

[worthy fog]

It was perfect and they fuckd up with this hot fix with god items again

[bleak echo]

Literally gear was more available for people and wasn’t too OP now because all the streamers where cry cos they can’t get the best gear and have an advantage they changed it back

[raw talon]

Yeah with a super sweat playerbase lol. I've had family and friends play that shit 12 hours a day every day and quit when they realized it was an unhealthy addiction. At least rust only players know how to moderate themselves, a huge chunk of them just build a base then raid people then don't care the next day.

[safe thistle]

time to stop my music and listen for land mines again.💀

[subtle heart]

what are the god items this time?

[rain briar]

is there a demo system where i can watch a game back or something? also how do i report for pre-emptive teaming in goblin gaves, they werent using voip but were obviously communicating

[mental rivet]

Patch only took an hour last night? Good stuff IM

[mild storm]

What do you guys think the best classes are now ?

Warlock seems really strong! I was mega geared on my Fighter and a moderately geared warlock absolutely melted me aha

Are Rogues any viable now ? I mostly play solo

[bleak echo]

+2 all attributes +4 weapon damage

[misty stone]

Is not bann reason

[hallow lance]

People who farm gear on low pop servers should be forced to play on low pop servers 🇸 🇦 🇳 🇵 🇦 🇴 🇱 🇴 🇲 🇪 🇹 🇦 Broken Game

[subtle heart]

i thought you could only get +1 all now

[tame mauve]

Longbow 43 dmg, +3 weapon dmg, +4 add dmg, +2all

[raw talon]

Warlock, Fighter. Been seeing a lot of that with a rogue or cleric as the third. I'm guessing they take rogues in so they can open the good loot, thats what I do with my team

[rain briar]

pre planned teaming is bannable

[sweet jay]

lol i was one of them. i realized "hardcore" based survival games are the most addictive genre after playing ark for 15k hours. Wouldnt take it back tho

[bleak echo]

Can get +4 weapon damage

[hallow lance]

Fix the 🇸 🇦 🇳 🇵 🇦 🇴 🇱 🇴 🇲 🇪 🇹 🇦

Players who farm gear on low pop servers should be forced to play on low pop servers

[worthy fog]

you could, then they patche it less than 48hours later to return it

[tropic torrent]

dev

[subtle heart]

oof

[raw talon]

I mean yeah I was an mmo only addict for like 3 years cause The Old Republic came out. Was a huge SW Galaxy enjoyer but that was a very laid back game. Old Republic taught me how shitty ranking systems in most games can be when they have an MMR system for team games.

[surreal rapids]

How do we feel about the +damage and +2all being back? Do we think it'll be too much again, or do the weapon nerfs make it not as bad? Personally i think +2 all and +4 phys shouldn't exist. I think magic damage is ok. Seems like a misstep on their part.

[bleak echo]

Shits op as fuck considering epic base armor a have +3 stats anyway

[smoky meadow]

Is there an easier way to take gold out of the Large gold coinbag?

[surreal rapids]

Yeah i mean they wanted to slow down the game, and they did. Then, they sped it up again. After 2 days.

[sweet jay]

MMR based games feels like a dying genre, theres nothing more unfun then sweating 8 hour straight to watch a rank change colors. i really want mmorpgs to make a comeback which it looks like they are

[indigo cobalt]

Literally. This hotfix makes no sense. It is even worse than before

[delicate solar]

Well, it kinda makes perfect sense that "survival" genre games can deceive our brain into thinking it does something meaningful much better than others. Survival is the main function of our brain, after all.

[vivid pendant]

also makes no sense when they try to cater more to newbies, they just get more complaints

[bleak echo]

Ironmace did it for the crying moaning streamers

[raw talon]

I mean some games need MMR, but only a few of those should have MMR in a casual setting.

[worthy cradle]

You're the only player who has one, so you tell us